[00:45] <slashdotfx> anyone had any luck to make ltspfs mount unpartitioned usb stick?
[00:54] <elisboa> slashdotfx: you mean pendrives that have the mbr formatted, instead of a partition?
[00:54] <elisboa> such as some mp3 players?
[00:55] <slashdotfx> elisboa, yes exactly
[00:55] <elisboa> slashdotfx: do you have the detection script with you righ now?
[00:55] <elisboa> I can check it out
[00:56] <elisboa> if it's a shell script, it won't be hard to fix
[00:56] <slashdotfx> yes, it's a shellscript
[00:56] <elisboa> slashdotfx: can you send me?
[00:56] <elisboa> or paste via web somewhere?
[00:56] <slashdotfx> ok, hold on
[00:56] <slashdotfx> via ltspfs.pastebin.com ok?
[00:57] <elisboa> ok :)
[01:00] <slashdotfx> uh, should we looking at udev instead of the shellscript?
[01:00] <slashdotfx> according to this document https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
[01:01] <elisboa> if it's with udev, I don't know
[01:01] <elisboa> but I will look at the script first, and try to find what is lacking
[01:01] <elisboa> is the script available somewhere?
[01:02] <elisboa> it says it doesn't work with unpartitioned disks
[01:02] <elisboa> it's a bug
[01:02] <elisboa> and is fixable
[01:02] <slashdotfx> I'm a bit confused which script should be modified
[01:02] <elisboa> can i have the script?
[01:02] <slashdotfx> there are
[01:03] <elisboa> slashdotfx: I have made a probing script, sometime
[01:03] <elisboa> ago
[01:03] <slashdotfx> ltspfsmounter
[01:03] <elisboa> and it predicted unpartitioned disks as well
[01:04] <elisboa> ` it reads data from sysfs
[01:05] <elisboa> slashdotfx: do you want to see it?
[01:06] <slashdotfx> yes please
[01:06] <slashdotfx> maybe I can merge it down into my box
[01:06] <elisboa> slashdotfx: have it: pub.ueberalles.net/probe.sh
[01:08] <elisboa> slashdotfx: my script has a problem; it checks if the device is listed on fstab; if it is not, it isn't listed
[01:08] <elisboa> actually, it shouldn't need fstab after all
[01:09] <elisboa> it fetches the device mount path from ther, instead of define a bsae rootdir and complete it with device's name
[01:09] <elisboa> s/ther/there/
[01:10] <elisboa> but it's not hard to understand it's engine, i ugess
[01:10] <elisboa> maybe you can use it for you
[01:10] <slashdotfx> ok, I'm digesting here
[01:11] <elisboa> bonapetit
[01:14] <slashdotfx> your script should be installed under ltsp chroot right?
[01:20] <krsnendu> looking for help with choppy flash videos on thin clients. I have LDM_DIRECTX set but still choppy. I'm using Hardy.
[01:20] <krsnendu> In Feisty the choppiness went away with LDM_DIRECTX.
[01:20] <slashdotfx> according to this thread
[01:21] <slashdotfx> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=200802141431.34615.cjr%40tridentgarages.co.uk&forum_name=ltsp-discuss
[01:24] <slashdotfx> I need to modify udev rules
[01:27] <slashdotfx> elisboa, does your script executed manually?
[01:52] <slashdotfx> it works, after modifying udev rules
[01:53] <slashdotfx> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", RUN+="add_fstab_entry %k auto"
[01:53] <slashdotfx> adding that to /etc/udev/rules.d/88-ltsp.rules
[02:23] <elisboa> slashdotfx: yes, it executes manually
[02:23] <elisboa> it only probes devices
[02:24] <elisboa> slashdotfx: sorry for the delay; i was moving fro mcollege to home
[02:24] <elisboa> slashdotfx: tell me, did it help to fix the bug?
[02:24] <slashdotfx> ic, no problem
[02:24] <slashdotfx> well I need to test it further
[02:24] <elisboa> I am at home, ubuntu here
[02:25] <elisboa> I can help you if you want
[02:25] <elisboa> help to test, I mean
[02:25] <slashdotfx> since I'm test by deleting my own pendrive partition, and mkdosfs it without partition
[02:26] <elisboa> slashdotfx: you can use mkfs.vfat too
[02:26] <elisboa> or mkfs.vfat -F32 if it's bigger than 2 GB
[02:27] <slashdotfx> well now the pendrive is mounted, even without partition
[02:29] <elisboa> yeaaaaah!
[02:29] <slashdotfx> elisboa, I'll report back to the channel asap after I got some real user bringing their mp3 players
[02:30] <slashdotfx> thank you very much for your help
[02:30] <elisboa> slashdotfx: can I see how did you modified your 88-ltsp.rules?
[02:31] <slashdotfx> ok, its in here http://ltspfs.pastebin.com/m1176d890
[02:36] <elisboa> slashdotfx: I don't want to be preachy, but... Wouldn't it be interesting to use a rule for removable cd writers as well? They usually are named /dev/scd*
[02:36] <elisboa> slashdotfx: I've made this alteration: http://ltspfs.pastebin.com/m51409197
[02:37] <elisboa> I don't have a removable CD writer here, but I have it at work
[02:37] <elisboa> if you want, I can test it there
[02:37] <elisboa> it's 00:00 now where I am. Brazil, -03:00
[02:37] <elisboa> I usually get to owrk at 10:00
[02:38] <elisboa> or 13:00 GMT
[02:38] <elisboa> oops, 01:00 PM GMT
[02:38] <slashdotfx> ic, I don't have removable cd writer here either, but it doesn't hurt to test it right
[02:39] <elisboa> yes
[02:40] <elisboa> if the line doesn't present any syntax error, it will be good for now :)
[02:40] <elisboa> so, I can test it at work and see if it works
[02:41] <slashdotfx> yes, excellent
[02:42] <elisboa> I know it's somehow hard to imagine that a thin client would have an external cd-drive, but if this lines gives us this feature, then there will be no excuses for this feature not to be present
[02:42] <elisboa> sorry if my english is seems ; i am not a native speakerbad
[02:45] <slashdotfx> no, your english is great
[02:46] <slashdotfx> I'm indonesian, english is not my native language too, but as long as we understand each other, its ok
[02:46] <elisboa> good :)
[02:47] <elisboa> I had a little problem with the keyboard, haha
[04:08] <slashdotfx> oops, now I'm seeing double mount point
[07:00] <coolio> i have a weird problem, the server goes really slow when then its nor directly connected to the internet, any thoughts
[07:36] <stgraber> dns resolution problems probably
[07:36] <johnny_> hmm.. is gnome-cups-manager still needed these days?
[07:36] <johnny_> evil thing pegs my cpu to 100% every once in awhile, causes music to skip
[07:57] <stgraber> johnny_: nope, it's replaced by system-config-printer
[08:20] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have a question. Does a standalone Edubuntu workstation installation also contain the kernel headers? I will need them to compile the driver for my modem? I want to make everything ready before I install Edubuntu.
[08:27] <johnny_> thanks stgraber :)
[08:27] <johnny_> it wasn't autoremoved when i upgraded tho
[08:27] <johnny_> bbiab
[08:36] <Muhammad_Saad> Does anyone know about my question?
[08:38] <Muhammad_Saad> If I have to download the kernel headers separately, which packages should I download?
[10:40] <cooli1> just started installing gutsy I chose raid 1 and now want delete, what to do from here
[15:16] <bdgraue> where can i get an hardy alpha5/6 cd-iso?
[15:17] <bdgraue> i can only find an current dvd-image
[15:28] <ogra_cmpc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-5/
[15:28] <ogra_cmpc> you need the ubuntu desktop or alternate cd for it
[15:28] <ogra_cmpc> alternate has the ltsp bits in case you are after that
[15:34] <ogra_cmpc> (which can be found at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/)
[15:47] <bdgraue> ogra_cmpc: i am looking for the edubuntu thin client installation, i have an 400MHz AMD-K6 with 192 MB RAM and will install an edubuntu, i think a normal edubuntu installation is to big for the old machine.
[15:48] <ogra_> bdgraue, thin clients need a server
[15:48] <ogra_> they boot off the network
[15:48] <bdgraue> i thought i can use my kubuntu desktop as server
[15:48] <ogra_> that spec would indeed make a godd TC
[15:49] <ogra_> well, then just install ltsp on your kubuntu desktop :)
[15:49] <ogra_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[15:49] <ogra_> no need for the iso
[15:49] <ogra_> (at least with a decent DSL line)
[15:50] <bdgraue> i have to learn, how to configure the thin client
[15:50] <bdgraue> i'll try and learn :)
[15:50] <ogra_> it configures itself
[15:51] <ogra_> during boot it detects all HW related stuff it needs and sets up everything
[15:53] <ogra_> the client is only used as a display and input/output device ... the actual session runs on the server so all that would be there to configure would be tweaks of the X server setup for special mouse or keyboard setups ...
[15:54] <ogra_> there are some things to change in your desktop setup if you use kde though (i.e. redirect the desktop sound output)
[15:55] <bdgraue> i will read all i can get and try it, thanks for your help ogra_
[15:56] <bdgraue> if i have more questions, i'll aks :)
[15:56] <bdgraue> ask
[15:56] <ogra_> if you have questions, dont hesitate to come back and ask :)
[15:58] <bdgraue> i have a lot of questions, but all for a later state
[15:58] <bdgraue> one step after the other :)
[15:59] <bdgraue> (i think my english isn't the best)
[16:23] <cberl1> Hi folks.  got a little issue with an edubuntu server not authenticating clients (X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication).  I know I've seen this issue discussed in the mailing list for edubuntu-users, but I can't seem to find the solution.  Any thoughts?
[16:28] <cberl1> I can't ssh to the server and forward my connection, either.  Does this help at all??
[16:46] <cberl1> Hey, anyone know what scp-client is?  I seem to be missing it on my Edubuntu LTSP server...
[16:49] <cberl1> Okay, found out what it is.  any idea if it may be the cause of my users not being able to authenticate and get a session on my LTSp server?
[17:00] <bdgraue> * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3             [fail]  <-- and i have no idea why, i thought it would be simple to set up an ltsp-server and only start the 'client-pc' via lan :(
[17:05] <bdgraue> is it easier with hardy alpha then with gutsy?
[17:13] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I want to know if the edubuntu cd comes along with the kernel development headers. I need them to compile my modem driver.
[17:15] <Muhammad_Saad> In the directory /pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22 on the CD I see some packages starting with linux-headers-x.y.z.deb. Are these what I need?
[17:21] <Muhammad_Saad> Does anyone here know?
[18:03] <Paladine> anyone know if Alistair Crust frequents this channel (see http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies/Skegness )
[20:02] <LaserJock> bah
[20:02]  * LaserJock stabs bugzilla.gnome.org
[20:10] <ogra_> Paladine, he writes to the edubuntu-users ML from time to time ...
[20:14] <johnny> ogra_ hi..
[20:14] <johnny> i got federico to do autotools magic for me.. and now sabayon is actually going to generate proper desktop file with X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Version
[20:15] <johnny> so bug reports will be filed more correctly
[20:27] <Paladine> ogra_, thanks, was hoping maybe he came in here, he has invited me to his school to tour his labs, would have been nice to have a "face to face" in the irc sense first :)
[20:27] <ogra_> right
[20:27] <ogra_> if he is/was here, i'm not aware of his nick
[21:41] <Neon_lights> um...hello? xD
[21:41] <LaserJock> hello
[21:42] <Neon_lights> Hiya. :] I had a couple questions about Edubuntu.
[21:43] <Neon_lights> and I'm prolly gonna sound like an idiot, but oh well. I always do. Heheh. ^^; But anyway, I'm in Vegas, and my mom knows quite a few people on the county's school board
[21:44] <Neon_lights> And we were reading the paper today, and they're revamping their computer systems and stuff
[21:45] <LaserJock> cool
[21:45] <LaserJock> I'm in Reno ;-)
[21:45] <Neon_lights> Cool. I envy you, Reno is a lot more awesome then Vegas. =P
[21:46] <LaserJock> heh
[21:47] <Neon_lights> So anyway, we were thinking we'd send a couple emails out and ask if it's possible if they'd use Linux instead. =]
[21:47] <Neon_lights> And I guess I'm just wondering if ya know of any schools in the country that already use it that I could maybe use as a reference or something?
[21:48] <LaserJock> boy, I'm not sure of the specifics off the top of my head
[21:48] <LaserJock> but there's schools in Maine and Indiana
[21:48] <LaserJock> perhaps some in California too
[21:49] <LaserJock> I'd send an email to the edubuntu-users mailing list or look through some of the archives even
[21:49] <Neon_lights> Hm, okay
[21:49] <LaserJock> but yeah, there are a number of schools around that are using it successfully
[21:49] <Neon_lights> Cool. :D Thanks.
[21:50] <Neon_lights> Maybe we'll add a couple more to that number