[00:04] <stond> does anybody know what software to use to make an iso and read the files within an iso
[00:06] <reagleBRKLN> just tried a fresh kde 4.0.2 login and I get a kbuildsycoca4 crash and then only the desktop
[00:08] <Corty> hi
[00:09] <JoshOvki> !kde4 > reagleBRKLN
[00:10] <reagleBRKLN> ubotu, JoshOvki: yes, that announcement is what prompted me to install kde 4.0.2 -- and fail unfortunately
[00:11] <JoshOvki> reagleBRKLN: see #kubuntu-kde4  for support
[00:11] <reagleBRKLN> while i didn't stick with kde4 in the past (panel issues) I could use it.. now get kbuildsycoca4 crash on login
[00:11] <reagleBRKLN> thanks, will try
[00:12] <storbeck> reagleBRKLN: Update your repos, delete everything relative to kde4(old version), and re-install
[00:13] <storbeck> Or KDE3, depending on what you had
[00:13] <reagleBRKLN> storbeck: will try again i suppose
[00:13] <yao_ziyuan> some packages like Evolution i never use and they sometimes request to upgrade themselves. is it safe to remove Evolution?
[00:13] <reagleBRKLN> really, delete all kde3?
[00:13] <storbeck> reagleBRKLN: The KDE3 in your repos
[00:14] <storbeck> yao_ziyuan: Yes.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> why in god's name should he remove all of kde3 to get kde4 working?  or am i missing something here?
[00:14] <yao_ziyuan> and how mature is kde4 now? maybe i should download kde4 packages
[00:14] <storbeck> Daisuke_ldo, the KDE 3 in his repos, not the installed KDE 3.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ahhhh
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i was missing something :)
[00:14] <cheeby> Dragnslcr: I found it.  it was mysql-sever.  just wasn't showing up in the GUI.
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: not very, wait for 4.0.3 at the earliest
[00:15] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[00:15]  * cheeby is trying to run this as would his brother (in sales)
[00:15] <yao_ziyuan> i hope kde4 still has transparent taskbar
[00:15] <reagleBRKLN> storbeck: i'm not sure what you mean by, "in the repos"? i have lines for ubuntu guts, updates, and ppa
[00:15] <storbeck> You don't have any for KDE 3?
[00:15] <storbeck> Oh, nevermind. KDE 4 isn't even in the repos yet is it.
[00:16] <reagleBRKLN> not specifically, though once I put ppa in there, a couple KDE3 apps got updated to those versions
[00:16] <storbeck> Sorry, I was going off a SuSe forum where someone had the same problem. :D
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> the fate of things like Evolution and KTorrent is doomed by Thunderbird and the official BitTorrent client
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[00:17] <Jucato> !offtopic | yao_ziyuan
[00:17] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you talking about?
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> i mean, if people use firefox,
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> they would probably also use thunderbird
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> and mozilla takes all
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's comparing apples to pleated pants
[00:18] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: don't carry it much further :)
[00:18] <reagleBRKLN> oh well, remove 4.0.2 for now, maybe 4.0.3! :)
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> reagleBRKLN: honestly, that would be my advice, there are a couple bugs that crept into 4.0.2
[00:18] <yao_ziyuan> people tend to adopt products with the same flavor
[00:18] <Jucato> reagleBRKLN: maybe the people in #kubuntu-kde4 know what's happening
[00:19] <Jucato> again yao_ziyuan, thia tis offtopic for this channel
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> reagleBRKLN: perhaps not remove it, but stick with kde 3 until 4.0.3 is released, then give it another shot, which is what i've been doing
[00:19] <Jucato> good...
[00:19] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: or 4.1, which is due next month iirc
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, that is good news
[00:20] <storbeck> Yes, if I was a KDE fan I would for sure wait until 4.1
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> hopefully that makes it fully usable and a realistic replacement for 3.5.x
[00:20] <Jucato> depends on how much of a KDE fan you are :P
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> right now it feels kinda...  pinched.
[00:20] <Jucato> a hardcore one would have built KDE 4.1 from source now :P
[00:21] <storbeck> Hehe
[00:21] <Daisuke_Ido> like "we swear it's going to get better, but we had to give people SOMETHING"
[00:28] <megavatt> hi
[00:28] <tekteen> hi
[00:29] <megavatt> At me a problem at installation of driver NVIDIA for videocard GeeForce 6600
[00:29] <megavatt> all headers installed
[00:29] <tekteen> what did you do?
[00:30] <tekteen> are you using the restricted drivers manager?
[00:31] <alesan> hi which program can I use to write some text on a PDF file and then the newly created pdf?
[00:31] <alesan> and then *save* the new pdf?
[00:31] <tekteen> pdfedit I think
[00:32] <alesan> well... I tried that but... it's not working well at all
[00:32] <alesan> it seems to have a nivce interface but every edit I make need *many* seconds to be "accepted"
[00:33] <alesan> if only openoffice "draw" could import pdf documents
[00:33] <alesan> like corel draw used to do :)
[00:33] <tekteen> I don't know anything about it
[00:34] <alesan> ok thanks the same.
[00:52] <imaginenetx> hey all, question about the wlanassistant
[00:52] <imaginenetx> is there any way to enhance it? like, set preferred networks so I don't have to manually connect each time?
[00:58] <yago> does anyone know how to install compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10
[01:00] <tekteen> !compiz|yago
[01:00] <ubotu> yago: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:05] <imaginenetx> how can I update my apt-get repositories?
[01:05] <abortd> where is grub installed to?
[01:05] <imaginenetx> !apt-get
[01:05] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:09] <imaginenetx> !sources
[01:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:18] <BluesKaj> imaginenetx, adept is the apt package manager GUI ,Open Adept Package Manager. On the menu of that screen,click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the Kubuntu Software tab, check all the boxes with an "X". The same goes for the Third Party software tab. Close, and then in the terminal do : "sudo apt-get update". Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[01:18] <Jucato> (wow! what a mouthful :P)
[01:19] <Jucato> BluesKaj: all boxes?
[01:19] <BluesKaj> nothing like copy & paste
[01:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:20] <BluesKaj> it uncomments them
[01:20]  * Jucato doesn't suggest "Unsupported updates" (backports) unless necessary
[01:21] <BluesKaj> when ppl complain about not enuff repos , one must oblige :)
[01:21] <Jucato> lol
[01:22] <BluesKaj> any suggestions about a disclaimer then, Jucato ?
[01:23] <naught102> any suggestions about how to get kooka working with SANE in hardy?
[01:25] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm... disclaimer.. hm... other than stuff in backports are not guaranteed to work 100%. Use with caution
[01:25] <Jucato> naught102: try #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <BluesKaj> i hate to say this , but switch to windows to any scanning kooka and sane aren't up to the task with my HP scanner
[01:25] <Jucato> oh they work fine in Feisty
[01:26] <naught102> Jucato: I have, but no one in there ever has any idea about KDE, and there's no #kubuntu+1
[01:26] <Jucato> which was the last time I used it
[01:26] <BluesKaj> ok, Jucato I'll take that under advisement :)
[01:26] <naught102> BluesKaj: worked fine in gutsy with my mustek scanner
[01:26] <tekteen> naught102: #ubuntu+1 (even for kubuntu)
[01:26] <naught102> tekteen: see above
[01:27] <tekteen> ok
[01:27] <tekteen> nm
[01:27] <NickPresta> How would I check which repository a certain package comes from when doing a dist-upgrade? (I know apt-get -V dist-upgrade will show the version numbers).
[01:27] <BluesKaj> naught102, bummer about Hardy
[01:27] <Jucato> NickPresta: apt-cache policy <package>
[01:27] <Jucato> or was it apt-cache madison...
[01:28] <NickPresta> Jucato, ah. So there is no way to do it while you're upgrading (for all packages being upgraded)?
[01:29] <Jucato> you can try checking while it's downloading, but no, not that I know of
[01:29] <NickPresta> okay.
[01:29] <NickPresta> I suppose -sV will work
[01:32] <BluesKaj> naught102, my scanner worked alright , the results were just too dark and no altering of settings could fix the problem
[01:34] <Dr_willis_> BluesKaj,  for my scanner/needs - Windows was just a disaster compared to linux. :) guess it depends on the scanner.
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> I just found it odd.. that for windows i had to download a 124+mb driver package for my printer/scanner/combo -  :) that included all this Junk that  dident need.. and that dident work.  Like i needed HP's photo/doc/whatever tool.. (which i might add dont work in vista) heh..
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> Vista included the priner/scanner drivers.. but only with 1/2 the features disabled..  Who Needs those fancy scan/print buttons to work under vista anyway! :)
[01:36]  * Dr_willis_ is done ranting.
[01:40] <BluesKaj> yes Dr_willis, it certainly looks that way , unless my learning curve is just too steep with kooka :)
[01:43] <luckey> is there a way to set nautilus as my defualt system browser in kubuntu?
[01:44] <luckey> hello>
[01:44] <luckey> ?
[01:44] <luckey> i just want to set nautilus as my browser, I don't like dolphin
[01:45] <Jucato> how about Konqueror? :)
[01:45] <Jucato> !d3lphin | luckey
[01:45] <ubotu> luckey: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:45] <Jucato> same procedure, except look for Nautilus instead of Konqueror in the list
[01:46] <luckey> thanks!
[01:50] <shadowflier> I have a problem and I know there is somewhere an answer on the forums but I cant find it, its about the wireless card, I know that I am upposed to get the windows drivers and then install it using ndiswrapper, but I dont even know how to get that, help? :)
[01:51] <NickPresta> !ndiswrapp | shadowflier
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswrapp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <NickPresta> !ndiswrapper | shadowflier
[01:51] <ubotu> shadowflier: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:51] <shadowflier> well thanks
[01:51] <NickPresta> shadowflier, specifically ndiswrapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:53] <gannon8> On the Adept Program Installer, why are the programs greyed out?
[01:54] <gannon8> Is there anyone who is alive here?
[01:55] <gannon8> guess not.
[01:55] <draik> Hello all
[01:56] <draik> Is there an alternative to k9Copy?
[01:56] <NickPresta> draik, is there a problem with k9copy or are you just looking for an alternative?
[01:57] <draik> NickPresta: k9Copy keeps crashing. The time of completion is escalating and dies around the eleventh hour
[01:57] <Daisuke-Laptop> draik: are you looking to go from dvd9>dvd5 or from dvd>xvid/h264/whatever ?
[01:57] <draik> dvd>iso
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> draik: it could very well be the disc
[01:58] <draik> All of them?
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> hmm
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[01:58] <NickPresta> There is 'dvdbackup'
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> there's also dvd95
[01:58] <NickPresta> I use k9copy. It hasn't failed for me *shrugs*
[01:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> same
[01:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> even in gnome, that, k3b, amarok, and konversation are the four apps i can't live without
[02:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> and ktorrent.  the five, FIVE apps i can't live without are k9copy, k3b, amarok, konversation, and ktorrent (please forgive me for ripping off the python.)
[02:01] <draik> I'm all for k3b, amarok, konversation, ktorrent and k9copy, but k9copy is just not working as it should.
[02:01] <draik> Yes, I have libdvdcss2 installed
[02:01] <NickPresta> draik, there is also 'acidrip' and 'dvdrip'. I don't know if those will do what you want though.
[02:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> dvdrip will not
[02:01] <Daisuke-Laptop> i use that for dvd > avi
[02:02] <Daisuke-Laptop> check dvd95, dvdbackup
[02:06] <the_darkside_986> What exactly is the command for making Kaffeine or mplayer play Windows Media Video files in Kubuntu? i mean i hate WMV as much as anyone else but if mplayer can't play it then i can't convert it.
[02:07] <dent-42> sorry to butt in the conversation. Doesn't VLC play WMV files ?
[02:08] <unix_lappy> vlc plays virtually everything, so does mplayer
[02:08] <dent-42> what i thought
[02:10] <imaginenetx> !update repositories
[02:10] <dent-42> Darkside_989: have you installed  w32codecs ??
[02:10] <the_darkside_986> well, some wmv files seem to play. not sure if my file got corrupted or what, but it is *.wmv and the sound plays but no video.
[02:11] <the_darkside_986> well "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" says the package is obsolete or missing.
[02:11] <the_darkside_986> right now i am downloading the tarball from mplayerhq but i can't remember where they go in the directory tree (usr/local/??? somthing)
[02:12] <crimsun> /usr/lib/win32
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> ok
[02:12] <the_darkside_986> i knew it was something like that.
[02:12] <Jucato> the_darkside_986: w32codecs is not in the official Ubuntu repositories
[02:12] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[02:12] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:12] <dent-42> ok, well you could try adding mediubuntu to your repository i think w32codes is in there with other codecs
[02:13] <dent-42> ah beat me to it :-P
[02:13] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks.
[02:13] <jinzougen> I'm compiling something with latex for the first time on my kubuntu install. Latex didn't find setspace.sty so I downloaded it from CTAN, but it's complaining about not finding a \begin{document} when there obviously is one... can anyone help or should I ask this in a latex channel?
[02:13] <dent-42> try this  Darkside_986:      sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[02:13] <dent-42> and then :
[02:14] <dent-42> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[02:14] <dent-42> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:14] <the_darkside_986> also, is there a way to enter unicode characters in KDE? i know that Gnome has some kind of character combo and a char map app.
[02:15] <dent-42> darkside_986: that one i cant be much help on, sorry
[02:15] <the_darkside_986> well i've got the mplayer binary codec tarball almost done so i'll probably try to use it. if that doesn't work then it means my file was corrupted :(
[02:16] <dent-42> darkside: but try what i posted above to get the w32codecs it solved alot of problems for me
[02:16] <the_darkside_986> i suppose i should open up KDevelop and write an app for inserting unicode. but i don't know how unicode works in that environment. I wish there were Qt bindings in D. D is the only real language that has proper unicode support IMO.
[02:17] <Jucato> (well C++ has, through some libraries like Boost afaik)
[02:17] <ksut> hey, has anyone here heard any reports of oom-killer going nuts when there's plenty of memory free? (not to mention swap)
[02:18] <crimsun> ksut: sure, but that question lacks just about all reasonable detail.
[02:38] <val0> i am trying to rdp into a computer (Vista) from a Kubuntu machine and I get the "connection attempt to host failed" error. I know that RDP and Remode Desktop is enabled on the remote machine. I am VPNed in to the network and I can successfully ping the remote machine :S. The firewall on the remote machine is off... Any ideas what it can be?
[02:43] <drbrown> is kubuntu hardy pretty buggy?
[02:44] <drbrown> is it pretty stable
[02:44] <val0> drbrown: probably better than anything else you'll find on the market
[02:44] <Jucato> alpha 5 was just released
[02:45] <drbrown> I am having probs with my sata hard drive with feisty
[02:45] <drbrown> it is showing up as an IDE drive and is seriously taxing my performance
[02:46] <Jucato> have you tried upgrading to gutsy?
[02:46] <drbrown> I am sorry, I am running gutsy
[02:47] <life> Hey, anyone know what's up with amarok throwing a "cannot currently play mp3" message?
[02:48] <val0> life: do you have the restricted extras installed?
[02:48] <life> val0: Uhm, not sure how I would go about doing that, so I guess not, heh.
[02:49] <life> val0: Might you be able to guide me in the right direction?
[02:50] <val0> life: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:50] <life> Neat, I appreciate it!
[02:50] <val0> life: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:50] <val0> life: see if that works if not let us know
[02:51] <life> val0: Sure! I just switched to Kubuntu today from XP, giving it a whirl and not quite yet familiar with everything just yet.
[02:52] <val0> life: lol i went through the process a while back
[02:52] <jcgkffycs> val0: I seem to remember having to apt-get install Kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:52] <val0> life:  the key to success is the ubuntu forum
[02:52] <val0> jcgkffycs: sorry not sure what you mean
[02:52] <val0> life: you'll find most of what you need there and if not there than here
[02:53] <jcgkffycs> ubuntu-restricted-extras might not work with amarok
[02:54] <life> And also! Is there a quick and easy way of updating programs (such as amarok currently)
[02:54] <jcgkffycs> it might only install support for rythmbox and the other gnome apps,not the kde.
[02:54] <val0> jcgkffycs: i had that same error and when i installed it worked for me
[02:54] <val0> amarok runns on xine i believe and that needs the restricted extras but i could be wrong
[02:54] <life> Hmm, the problem persists!
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> the exact package for mp3 codecs is libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu-restricted-extras is reccomended though
[02:55] <Tann> I was wondering where the alsa-base configuration files are
[02:55] <jcgkffycs> yea, try apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:55] <jcgkffycs> that should work with amarok
[02:55] <life> Cool, giving it a go.
[02:55] <val0> life: what's the actually error message?
[02:55] <root_______> hola
[02:56] <root_______> como estan
[02:56] <life> Hmmm
[02:56] <life> It says "Amarok currently cannot play MP3 files."
[02:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> root_____________ para poder recibir ayuda en espanol, ve a #kubuntu-es.
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> life: you need to restart amarok after getting that package
[02:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> pero, estamos bien.
[02:56] <jcgkffycs> you might need to restart amarok before it will catch the new codecs
[02:57] <val0> !es
[02:57] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:57] <life> Hmmm, still get the same message after restarting.
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, add the xine extra plugins
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> then restart amarok.
[02:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> val0, you are late, I explained that already.
[02:57] <life> How might I get these packages?
[02:57] <tlayton> i think the restricted-extras installs mp3 support for k3b
[02:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> hold on a sec
[02:58] <val0> gundam_rx78nt1: not again
[02:58] <val0> i am always late for that!
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> life: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> also install the libxine1-plugins
[02:59] <val0> nosrednaekim: he should have that package by now :D he got that command about 4 times from us already :D
[02:59] <life> nosrednaekin: I think that's the same command I just ran
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, do you have the libxine1-plugins installed?
[02:59] <wswindell> hello
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> hehe...
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello wswindell?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> I thought he just asked how to get them...
[03:00] <life> Hold on, lemme check.
[03:00] <wswindell> yo
[03:00] <life> nosrednaekim: Nope!
[03:00] <life> nosrednaekim: Don't have them.
[03:00] <wswindell> Help?!
[03:00] <val0> life: you don't have what?
[03:00] <life> Nor do I have the libxine1-ffmpeg either
[03:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell, just ask
[03:00] <life> The libxine1-plugins
[03:01] <wswindell> i messed up my APT locations and can't use synaptics or adept
[03:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, just install that.  That helped with mp3 playback for me.
[03:01] <wswindell> install what
[03:01] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: Heh, how might I install it?
[03:01] <life> Very sorry, not too sure how this stuff works yet.
[03:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> sudo apt-get install libxine1-plugins
[03:01] <wswindell> hold on
[03:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell: that was for life
[03:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> wswindell: that will not help your problem
[03:02] <jcgkffycs> life: dumb question are you really killed amarok when you restrated it? Remember it keeps running even if you close the window, you need to press ctrl+ Q
[03:02] <wswindell>  Malformed line 76 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:02] <wswindell> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:02] <wswindell> that is waht it said
[03:02] <Tann> where are alsa-base configuration files located
[03:02] <life> jcgkffycs: Yeah, I right clicked/quit on the little icon in the taskbar.
[03:03] <wswindell> gundam_rx78nt1?
[03:03] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: Hmm, it seems like it won't install because of certain 'unmet dependencies'
[03:03] <wswindell> Anyone know how to install limewire? my GDebi package installer is crap
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: line 76 is messed up... could you pastebin the file?
[03:04] <wswindell> what do you mean, i am new to Ubuntu Linux
[03:04] <NickPresta> wswindell, I suggest FrostWire instead. Virtually the same, except more freedom :)
[03:04] <NickPresta> !frostwire | wswindell
[03:04] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:04] <wswindell> thanx
[03:04] <wswindell> konqueror web browser sucks
[03:05] <NickPresta> wswindell, that is a matter of opinion.
[03:05] <wswindell> you-re right
[03:05] <life> Unmet dependencies or something; a line of it is Depends: libxine1-ffmpeg but it is not going to be installed
[03:05] <wswindell> i am spoiled by Firefox
[03:05] <wswindell> what country are you guys from, i am from USA
[03:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg and then install the libxine1-plugins
[03:06] <NickPresta> wswindell, there are a variety of places represented here.
[03:06] <life> gundam_rx78nt1: It won't let me install libxine1-ffmpeg ... it quotes a bunch more dependencies
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> life: do you have the restricted repository enabled in adept?
[03:06] <wswindell> i am only a 14 year old Visual Basic programmer, so use easier jargon
[03:07] <tlayton> wswindell: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , enter contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list, then paste the URL here
[03:07] <life> nosrednaekim: I think so. I enabled the ones with (multiverse) and (universe) behind 'em.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file so I can see what the problem is
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> life: you need restricted too
[03:08] <wswindell> i can't access any of these things through adept or synaptics, so how else
[03:08] <life> nosrednaekim: while I'm at it, should (main) be enabled as well?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> life: certainly.!
[03:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> you don't have main enabled?
[03:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> ouch.
[03:08] <life> nosrednaekim: Neat. After this, the apt-get installs should work?
[03:09] <life> Well, apparently not, heh.
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> life: yes:)
[03:09] <NickPresta> wswindell, press alt+f2. Type in: kate /etc/apt/sources.list. Copy that text to the pastebin. Provide us with the pastebin location.
[03:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> enable it, enable it.
[03:09] <wswindell> HELP! My GDebi Package Installer will do nothing cause of the APT resources list
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> life: enable them all (except source)
[03:09] <life> Hurrah, the install thingy's working!
[03:09] <NickPresta> wswindell, we're trying to help you. You need to help us in return by following the instructions we give you.
[03:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> "install thingy"? LOL.  sorry been up for 48 hours.
[03:10] <life> ;)
[03:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> work and can't sleep.
[03:10] <wswindell> which text should i copy?
[03:10] <life> Ooouch.
[03:10] <NickPresta> wswindell, all the text. The whole file.
[03:10] <wswindell> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
[03:10] <wswindell> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[03:10] <wswindell> # newer versions of the distribution.
[03:10] <wswindell> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[03:10] <wswindell> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[03:10] <life> Rofl.
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops. no pastebin
[03:11] <life> Ah! The sweet sound of music ;) Thanks so much you guys!
[03:11] <NickPresta> wswindell, you need to paste that into a pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:11] <wswindell> whats pastebin, im sorry
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> life, isn't it sweeter with music?
[03:11] <life> Much, much :D
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> life: awesome :)
[03:11] <wswindell> you guys are awesome
[03:11] <life> By the way, is there some way I might update programs (such as amarok)?
[03:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> smiling as he is listening to Jack Johnson.
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> life: well, there won't be any major updates, only bug-fixes
[03:12] <jcgkffycs> they all get auto updated by adept
[03:12] <wswindell> i pasted it
[03:12] <NickPresta> life, if your package manager (either Adept or Synaptic) don't have any updates then you're using the most up-to-date version available in the repositories.
[03:12] <NickPresta> wswindell, you need to provide us with the pastebin URL
[03:12] <wswindell> sorry, duh
[03:13] <wswindell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58566/
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> life: the major "version" upgrades are usually between the releases of kubuntu. i.e. if you only have amarok 1.4.8 in gutsy, you will have to wait for hardy to get 1.4.9
[03:13] <NickPresta> wswindell, I assume you didn't have an internet connection when you were installing?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> life: in general... sometimes they backport things
[03:14] <wswindell> installed kubuntu?
[03:14] <val0> what's a good app to mount iso/uif/etc files?
[03:14] <NickPresta> wswindell, yep.
[03:14] <wswindell> no
[03:15] <wswindell> no internet connection NickPresta
[03:15] <life> Ah, thanks!
[03:15] <jcgkffycs> val0: I think you can just use loop mount, their should be some instructions somehwere on the forums.
[03:15] <Arwen> val0, /bin/mount
[03:15] <NickPresta> wswindell, you have no internet connection on your Kubuntu machine?
[03:16] <val0> and that would mount an iso or uif file?
[03:16] <wswindell> i do now, but not while installing Kubuntu Linux
[03:16] <NickPresta> wswindell, ah okay. That's fine
[03:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, it's time for me to go to bed.
[03:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> see ya later.
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1: sleep well :)
[03:16] <wswindell> so what should I do now NickPresta
[03:17] <life> How might I install new programs and such in Kubuntu?
[03:17] <NickPresta> wswindell, I'm fixng up your sources.list.
[03:17] <Arwen> life, with apt
[03:17] <NickPresta> wswindell, give me a moment
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close that kate window and run "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file as admin.
[03:17] <life> Adept?
[03:17] <wswindell> sure
[03:17] <Tann> does anyone know where the configuration files for alsa-base are?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> life: adept works great
[03:18] <life> nosrednaekim: Hmmm. I'm not quite sure how it works so I guess I'll test it out. What's a good program to install first?
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> life: firefox :)
[03:18] <life> nosrednaekim: Excellent idea!
[03:18] <Arwen> life, I recommend installing "hello"
[03:18] <life> Arwen: Hello?
[03:19] <Arwen> "hello" - it's the name of a package, install it and see
[03:19] <life> Heh. I'll do it after firefox!
[03:19] <life> So, to install firefox I click on the firefox package and click "request install"?
[03:19] <wswindell> nosrednaekim: i did as you advised
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: ok, erase the last line of that file
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> the limewire one
[03:19] <wswindell> kay
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> and save it
[03:20] <life> And then "apply changes?"
[03:20] <wswindell> line erased
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> life: yup
[03:20] <life> That was easy.
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: save it and exit kate
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> life: indeed.... its dead simple.
[03:20] <life> Amazing! :)
[03:20] <wswindell> okay nosrednaekim
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> life: there are 25000 packages... pretty much anything will be in there
[03:21] <life> nosrednaekim: Hehe. And you don't have to scrounge the internet for 'em.
[03:21] <NickPresta> wswindell, you have kate open (using kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list) correct?
[03:21] <wswindell> what should i do know
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: just told him to close it ;) he erased the bad line
[03:21] <wswindell> yes
[03:21] <life> nosrednaekim: Might you know of a nice IM application as well?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> life: you don't like kppete?
[03:22] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, he everything else commented out because the repos couldn't be verified (because he didn't have an internet connection during install time)
[03:22] <life> nosrednaekim: Haven't really tried it out to be honest, hehe.
[03:22] <wswindell> nosrednaekim, it is open
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: thats probably best fixed from within adept.
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> life: well, if you don't like it, try out pidgin
[03:23] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, wswindell, here is an updated sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58567/). You can choose to replace your sources.list (from within kate) or you can use Adept and Enable the proper repositories.
[03:23] <jcgkffycs> life: kopete is pre installed in kubuntu, it supports aim and pretty much everything else.
[03:23] <wswindell> how to do that
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: do what?
[03:23] <wswindell> what NickPresta is saying to do
[03:23] <life> Neat!
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: which one?
[03:24] <bluefoxx> do i need a plugin to play iso dvd file images in kaffeine?
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: probably libdvdcss
[03:24] <jcgkffycs> life: should be under internet in kmenu
[03:24] <wswindell> THIS ONE: nosrednaekim, wswindell, here is an updated sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58567/). You can choose to replace your sources.list (from within kate) or you can use Adept and Enable the proper repositories.
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: but there are two options there.....
[03:24] <wswindell> ok
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> the last one is probably easiest.... close kate, run adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and check all of the repositories on.
[03:25] <jinzougen> I really need help with latex. Latex's dvi output files seem to be in a4 paper, which isn't what I want. dvipdf outputs letterpaper but the top and bottom margins are too small and large respectively.
[03:25] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: i have that, i can play dvds,  but it doesnt do for kaffeine, i think i need to find a way to link /dev/cdrom into /dev/dvd, as i upgraded to a dvd burner but it still identifies as /dev/cdrom
[03:25] <jinzougen> dvips outputs a perfect postscript given the dvi
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> thats normal bluefoxx
[03:25] <NickPresta> wswindell, it is probably best for you to enable the various sources in Adept. Open up adept manager. File > Manage Repositories > Check off what you want (probably all of them)
[03:26] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: so is there a fix?im no longer using a plain 24x cdrom drive[nor do i plan to on this rig anymore]
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: FYI, the menu option is "adept"not file.... rather non-standard I know.
[03:26] <jinzougen> ps2pdf has the same problem as dvipdf
[03:26] <wswindell> they are already checked, uncheck them?
[03:26] <vikku> can someone help me install build-essential iam getting following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58568/
[03:26] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, ah okay. I haven't used Adept manager in a couple years :)
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: so mean you can't play normal dvd's?
[03:26] <NickPresta> wswindell, no, they can remain checked.
[03:27] <wswindell> okay, next/
[03:27] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: i can, but i prefere to rip them and im trying to find out what the last file on a dvd iso image is that i borrowed from a friend, thus i have no access to the dvd it came from and cant check from there
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close the dialog and click the reload button on the main screen
[03:28] <bluefoxx> im using thoggen to rip from disk five of the third season of inuyasha
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: that, my freind,would be pirating, and we do not help with that...
[03:29] <wswindell> reload in adept
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: yup.
[03:29] <wswindell> where is that located
[03:29] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: im not pirating...im only ripping the dvd to my hard disk, to watch at my leisure[rather than having to go dig up a disk from my mess of a floor]
[03:29] <wswindell> sorry, teh adept manager or package installer
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: the button reload or the app itself?
[03:30] <Strangelet> does anyone here know of a good KDE webcam application?
[03:30] <yao_ziyuan> it seems my kubuntu is eating half of my disk (80G) now
[03:30] <wswindell> any help installing wine?
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> is there any methods to clean up some temp files?
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> or cache files?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: sure.... "sudo apt-get install wine"
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> yao_ziyuan: "sudo apt-get clean"
[03:31] <wswindell> i'll try that
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> nosrednaekim: i tried
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> wswindell: close adept first though....
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> what about others?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> if you have it open
[03:31] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, I find it hard to believe you have 40G of temp. files.
[03:31] <the_darkside_986> well, no, you should probably go to Wine's website and get the Ubuntu repository. it is more updated. 9.56 just came out
[03:31] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: i don't know why it eats up so quickly.
[03:31] <wswindell> i am using gusty gibbon
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Bye guys
[03:32] <bluefoxx> nosrednaekim: would it make a difference if i changed my story to i want to watch the iso of a dvd my class made and dont have access to the dvd cause its broken? cause im trying to do that too...
[03:32] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, what does: `sudo du -sh /var` output?
[03:32] <bluefoxx> lol
[03:32] <the_darkside_986> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: ^_^ ok.....so the dvd drive is not working?
[03:33] <the_darkside_986> of course, each Wine release usually breaks half the programs, but the default Wine on Ubuntu disk is probably ancient by now...
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> bluefoxx: sorry, I really have to go...
[03:34] <NickPresta> bye nosrednaekim
[03:34] <bluefoxx> >>
[03:34] <bluefoxx> and yes, i should !lol | bluefoxx
[03:34] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: 260M
[03:34] <wswindell> my GDebi package installer always crashes when something starts to install
[03:35] <yao_ziyuan> i also find that realplayer might be suspicious
[03:35] <wswindell> any help
[03:35] <onerom> we
[03:35] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, first, I would figure out where the majority of your disk space is being used up before you decide it is your temp. files.
[03:36] <wswindell> I have the greatest Visual Basic teacher in the world, Mr. Doug Leisher!
[03:36] <NickPresta> wswindell, that's good. What do you need help with?
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: it's ubuntu 7.10 base system + kubuntu-desktop + ubuntu-desktop + virtualbox + a win xp virtual machine whose virtual disk is dynamic and <=8GB
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> and some big games:
[03:36] <yao_ziyuan> TORCS,
[03:37] <yao_ziyuan> Freedroid RPG
[03:37] <yao_ziyuan> several tux racers
[03:37] <wswindell> my gdebi always crashes when i start to install a .deb app
[03:38] <yao_ziyuan> is there a program that can tell me the least used packages and the bloatware among them?
[03:38] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, I would download `filelight`. It should provide you with some visual representation of where the majority of your disk space is being used.
[03:38] <NickPresta> wswindell, if you have a deb file, you can try: sudo dpkg -i DEBFILE.deb
[03:38] <NickPresta> wswindell, replacing DEBFILE with the name of the file, obviously
[03:39] <wswindell> okay, another question, How do i use .exe files with wine?
[03:39] <NickPresta> wswindell, wine EXEFILE.exe.
[03:39] <life> Hmmm. Is there a way to install flash for firefox?
[03:40] <wswindell> will that work with an setup file, such as "furcdownload.exe"
[03:40] <Tetracomm> I upgraded to KDE 4, and it logs back out right after logging in. Could someone help me?
[03:40] <mneptok> life: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <Jucato> life: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <mneptok> !kde4 > Tetracomm
[03:40] <Jucato> Tetracomm: um... try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 if anyone else has the problem
[03:40] <NickPresta> wswindell, it depends on the application. You could try it
[03:40] <Jucato> Tetracomm: when you log in to a KDE3 session, does the same thing happen?
[03:41] <life> Neat, thanks!
[03:41] <Jucato> !appdb | wswindell
[03:41] <ubotu> wswindell: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:41] <Tetracomm> Jucato: No, KDE 3.5 works fine for me.
[03:41] <wswindell> the apps home page said it would work with wine, but i am stuck
[03:41] <Jucato> Tetracomm: ok then, #kubuntu-kde4 for you
[03:41] <Jucato> wswindell: #winehq is the place to be for wine questions
[03:42] <life> Hmm, it says 'flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.'
[03:42] <wswindell> thanks
[03:43] <Jucato> life: in Firefox, try typing "about:plugins" in the address bar and check whether Flash is detected
[03:43] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: i now have run filelight
[03:43] <life> jucato: It says no plugins are installed!
[03:43] <Jucato> O.o
[03:43] <Jucato> life: how did you install firefox and from where?
[03:44] <life> jucator: Just installed it from adept is all.
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> NickPresta: /dev/sda1 has a total of 66.9GB and used 19,111MB
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> which sounds reasonable
[03:44] <Jucato> life: weird... have you restarted Firefox after installing Flash?
[03:44] <life> jucato: Well, it didn't really install. It just said that it's already the latest version. And I had firefox off when installing it.
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> i also have some other "disks" each has a size of 506 MB
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /var/run
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /var/lock
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /dev/shm
[03:45] <Jucato> life: Flash is probably already installed if it says that. not sure why Firefox can't detect it
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[03:45] <Jucato> life: are you using Kubuntu Gutsy or Hardy?
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan>  /var/lock
[03:45] <Jucato> !flood | yao_ziyuan
[03:45] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:45] <life> Jucato: Gutsy
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> ah! i know why now!
[03:46] <Jucato> life: really weird....
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> because there are 15 movies...
[03:46] <life> Hmmmm
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> and a hardy 5 iso
[03:47] <wswindell> where should i save my windows program files at
[03:47] <wswindell> in wine
[03:48] <wswindell> you guys are the best
[03:48] <Jucato> wswindell: hm?
[03:48] <wswindell> never mind
[03:48] <life> Jucato: Any ideas?
[03:48] <Jucato> you can save .exe files anywhere you want. once installed, they are installed in ~/.wine
[03:49] <Jucato> (or specifically ~/.wine/drive_c/)
[03:49] <Jucato> life: none unfortunately
[03:54] <Jucato> yay for netsplits!
[03:55] <life> Hmmm. Stupid firefox...
[03:59] <storbeck> Must have been lunch break time
[04:06] <freeksh0w86> would anyone happen to know the syntax for adding italic style to a font property in SCiTE?
[04:06] <freeksh0w86> i'm using it on Kubuntu 7.10
[04:07] <freeksh0w86> it is the only decent editor that properly understands D syntax. Kwrite goofs up when it sees an escaped quote \" in a string literal
[04:10] <storbeck> the_darkside_986: http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTEDoc.html
[04:10] <life> Sigh.
[04:10] <the_darkside_986> nvm i finally figured it out but thanks. i found that doc before and it wasn't very useful
[04:11] <the_darkside_986> but i wish KWrite and Kate had better syntax highlighting for D.
[04:15] <storbeck> What is D?
[04:15] <storbeck> A programming language?
[04:17] <Unoriginal> yes
[04:17] <storbeck> Hrm, I've never heard of it
[04:17] <Unoriginal> now you have
[04:18] <storbeck> Heh, I suppose so.
[04:19] <life> How might I compile a tar.bz2 file?
[04:21] <Arwen> life, a tar.bz2 is a tarball compressed with bzip2. It's just a bunch of files, so asking how to compile it is meaningless.
[04:22] <life> Ooh.
[04:24] <sharik> ssssssss
[04:24] <the_darkside_986> @storbeck : yeah, D is an awesome programming language, a low-level systems programming language like C++ except it has awesome features of C#, Java, etc.
[04:25] <storbeck> Ah, nice
[04:25] <the_darkside_986> the gnu compiler for it, gdc, is in the Kubuntu repos.
[04:25] <the_darkside_986> but i don't use that version.
[04:25] <Erickj92> when i try to do "sudo apt-get install packagehere" i get an error. here is the error on pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/929942 . any ideas?
[04:26] <Arwen> Erickj92, your repositories are fubar. Pastebin your sources.list (and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d)
[04:26] <storbeck> Did you try apt-get -f install ?
[04:26] <Erickj92> Arwen, fubar?
[04:26] <Arwen> never mind that...
[04:26] <Erickj92> storbeck, yes. and it just came with more errors
[04:27] <sandro__> I need help installing a wireless card driver on my friends computer, the wireless card isn't detected and lspci gave the following output for the wirelss card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), can anyone help?
[04:28] <Erickj92> Arwen, ill have my sources.list on pastebin in a second
[04:28] <life> sandro__: do you have the make/model of the card?
[04:28] <sandro__> isn't that in the lspci output?
[04:30] <Erickj92> Arwen:  http://www.pastebin.ca/929950
[04:31] <Arwen> Erickj92, probably the maintainer of the kde4 PPA has, well, broken his packages either for the time being or permanently.
[04:31] <Erickj92> what do i do?
[04:31] <Erickj92> because i dont want KDE4
[04:31] <Erickj92> if thats the prob
[04:31] <Arwen> wait it out, remove that entry, purge KDE4, or fix it yourself I'd say
[04:31] <Arwen> one of those four
[04:32] <Erickj92> Arwen, do into Adept and remove that respitory i added for KDE4?
[04:32] <Erickj92> go into**
[04:32] <Arwen> yeah, but you might need to still remove/revert already broken packages
[04:33] <Arwen> (oh, and I'd contact that PPA maintainer and see if he has suggestions_
[04:33] <Erickj92> how do i tell which are broken?
[04:33] <Arwen> adept should tell you, but I don't use it...
[04:33] <Erickj92> ok, thanks a ton man
[04:33]  * Erickj92 is a noob with kubuntu still
[04:34] <_aib> I've got a serious problem. My filesystem has gone Read-only and I've got an application open with unsaved data. What can I do?
[04:35] <sandro__> allright I've looked deeper
[04:36] <sandro__> he has an Atheros AR5006EG
[04:36] <Erickj92> _aib, you could post it privatly on the internet
[04:36] <Erickj92> to save the data atleaste
[04:36] <_aib> good idea
[04:36] <_aib> thanks
[04:36] <sandro__> and I got here http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros
[04:36] <_aib> wait...i can't! the application needs to save it to a file
[04:36] <_aib> man..this sucks
[04:37] <Erickj92> what do you mean it needs to save it to a file?
[04:37] <Erickj92> Arwen, how to i fix the broken pakages? I already removed the repitory, but am still getting the error when i do apt-get install.
[04:37] <_aib> it's a 3D simulator and I made a ton of progress last night and then went to bed. in order to save that progress, I need to save the state of the simulator, which has to be written in its own format to a file
[04:38] <Erickj92> i see
[04:38] <Arwen> Erickj92, eh, removing kde4-core should fix it
[04:38] <yao_ziyuan> what 3d effects does kubuntu offer?
[04:38] <Arwen> (I'd hope)
[04:38] <Erickj92> Arwen, sudo apt-get remove kde4-core?
[04:38] <Arwen> yao_ziyuan, kwin compositing, software effects, and compiz
[04:38] <Erickj92> yao_ziyuan, i use compiz
[04:38] <yao_ziyuan> how?
[04:38] <Arwen> Erickj92, probably "apt-get -f remove kde4-core" but make sure to read through it carefully
[04:39] <Arwen> !composite | yao_ziyuan
[04:39] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[04:39] <yao_ziyuan> what packages should i install?
[04:39] <Arwen> kwin composite is in the window management section of the control panel
[04:39] <Arwen> and so are the software effects
[04:40] <wswindell> anyone know how to install limewire
[04:40] <Erickj92> Arwen, still not working
[04:40] <Arwen> hmm, what happen?
[04:40] <Arwen> !limewire | wswindell
[04:40] <ubotu> wswindell: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:40] <wswindell> know how to install limewire from Konsole/Terminal
[04:40] <Arwen> though it kind of sucks...
[04:40] <Erickj92> i did the sudo apt-get -f remove kde4-core
[04:41] <Erickj92> and it gave errors again
[04:41] <yao_ziyuan> i can find: animate window maximizing/minimizing
[04:41] <Arwen> please elaborate
[04:41] <yao_ziyuan> translucency
[04:41] <wswindell> what code
[04:41] <Arwen> wswindell, read the link perhaps?
[04:41] <_aib> is there some way i can mount a usb drive without the ability to create a folder in /mnt because my drive is Read-only?
[04:41] <Erickj92> arwen, the same errors in the first pastebin
[04:41] <_aib> does anyone have a creative way for me to save this file with my file system being read only?
[04:41] <Arwen> hrmm
[04:41] <Erickj92> Arwen:  http://www.pastebin.ca/929942
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> where do i find Control Center?
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> i only see System Settings
[04:42] <wswindell> Screw Zhou Yu Of Wu
[04:42] <yao_ziyuan> ...
[04:43] <Erickj92> wswindell, what?
[04:43] <Arwen> Erickj92, try opening adept and removing those packages that error out with "depends on blah blah blah"
[04:43] <Erickj92> ok
[04:43] <wswindell> oh, nothing
[04:43] <Erickj92> thanks
[04:43] <yao_ziyuan> i only see Window Behavior in System Settings
[04:43] <yao_ziyuan> where is the Control Center?
[04:43] <wswindell> just going pyscodelic
[04:44] <Erickj92> Arwen, it is showing me in adept that all the KDE4 packages are broken. heh
[04:44] <wswindell> again, how to install limewire from the konsole
[04:45] <Erickj92> wswindell, sudo apt-get intsall limewire?
[04:45] <wswindell> tried thst already
[04:45] <wswindell> doesnt work
[04:45] <Erickj92> then im stumped
[04:45] <wswindell> thanx anyway, did it work for you
[04:45] <Unoriginal> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[04:46] <wswindell> do i have to add limewire to the repositories?
[04:46] <Unoriginal> no
[04:46] <Unoriginal> you have to
[04:46] <Erickj92> Arwen, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, it worked! i love you! (in a total the-tech-that-helped-me-loving-way)
[04:46] <Unoriginal> look at what I just told you
[04:46] <wswindell> than what
[04:47] <wswindell> can i install it through adept or synaptic
[04:47] <sandro__> will anyone here help me?
[04:47] <Arwen> wswindell, apt-get install sun-java6-jre && wget http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther && unzip LimeWireOther.zip
[04:47] <Arwen> try READING
[04:47] <Erickj92> sandro__, what do you need?
[04:48] <wswindell> already tried that man, it DOES NOT WORK
[04:48] <Arwen> !doesn't work
[04:48] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:48] <Erickj92> wswindell, settle down
[04:48] <wswindell> limewire installation without GDEBI
[04:48] <prince_jammys> there's also frostwire
[04:48] <wswindell> i dont like frostiwre
[04:48] <Erickj92> ...
[04:48] <prince_jammys> ok
[04:49] <wswindell> pllease help
[04:49]  * Arwen tunes out... limewire sucks, the protocol sucks, and well, you suck for not letting us help you
[04:49] <wswindell> sudo apt-get install limewire/frostwire will not work for me.
[04:49] <Arwen> note that I didn't tell you to do that...
[04:49] <Arwen> READ
[04:50] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[04:50] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[04:50] <wswindell> By the way Arwen, I am only a 14 year old Visual Basic programmer that is new to Kubuntu
[04:50] <Erickj92> wswindell, you are being kind of rude to everyone.
[04:50] <prince_jammys> !frostwire | wswindell
[04:50] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:50] <Arwen> wswindell, and so you ought to be more respectful to say the least.
[04:51] <Unoriginal> "visual basic programmer"
[04:51] <wswindell> i just want help, sorry, but i felt like i was being called stupid or something
[04:51] <Unoriginal> so many contradictions in that sentance
[04:51] <sandro__> I find your petty conflicts unamusing and I've given you basically all the information anyone would need
[04:52] <wswindell> please help, i am sorry if offended anybody. Please walk me through the install process
[04:52] <Arwen> wswindell, ok, first you need to install Java
[04:52] <wswindell> i have
[04:52] <Arwen> then you need to download the package from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[04:52] <Arwen> it will give you a ZIP
[04:52] <wswindell> it is opening with ark
[04:53] <wswindell> really slowly in ark
[04:53] <toter> sudo apt-get install frostwire is faster
 It opened in ark, completely
[04:54] <wswindell> what should i do know
[04:54] <wswindell> Now
[04:55] <wswindell> spelling correction
[04:55] <Arwen> ok, then you open a terminal, use "cd <pathname>" to change directories to your extracted Limewire, and run "./runLime.sh"
[04:55] <wswindell> hold on
[04:56] <wswindell> cd <home/wswindell>
[04:56] <prince_jammys> cd /home/wswindell
[04:57] <wswindell> thanks
[04:57] <Erickj92> can anyone recomend a screen recording program?
[04:57] <sandro__> ok so you guys have totally ignored me
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !info recordmydesktop | Erickj92
[04:57] <ubotu> erickj92: recordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:57] <Erickj92> sandro__, i asked you what you needed
[04:57] <sandro__> And I responded
[04:57] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[04:57] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[04:58] <Erickj92> prince_jammys, recordmydesktop doesnt apear to work. is there any others?
[04:58] <wswindell> ./runLime.sh did not work
[04:58] <Erickj92> sandro_, sorry, i cant help ya
[04:58] <prince_jammys> Erickj92: i think so, but recordmydesktop is the only one i know.  did you search the repositories?
[04:59] <Erickj92> not yet
[04:59] <Arwen> wswindell, don't tell me that it didn't work. Tell me how.
[04:59] <toter> recordmydesktop doesn't appear to work
[04:59] <toter> ./runLime.sh did not work
[04:59] <sandro__> thanks Erickj92
[04:59] <toter> nothing works on linux! i'm going back to windows
[04:59] <sandro__> Can anyone else help me?
[04:59] <Erickj92> linux works good
[04:59] <sandro__> toter that's a bit of an overstatement
[04:59] <Erickj92> toter, windoes is broke, linux works like a dream
[04:59] <wswindell> Linux works great
[04:59] <toter> LOL! just kidding...
[04:59] <sandro__> LOL
[04:59] <toter> geez
[05:00] <Erickj92> i would hope so
[05:00] <sandro__> I knew you were trollin
[05:00] <wswindell> when i extracted the Zip archive to my /home/wswindell location, and used the code i think you gave me, it did nothing
[05:01] <wswindell> what the heck is this
[05:01]  * toter is running hardy heron alpha 5. It DOES NOT work like a dream :/
[05:02] <Erickj92> KDE4 basically broke my system today :/
[05:02] <Erickj92> but 3.5 does work like a dream
[05:04] <wswindell> what does irc stand for anyway
[05:04] <life> internet relay chat
[05:04] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the name of the file you downloaded ?
[05:04] <wswindell> the zip file?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> wswindell: whatever file it was that you downloaded
[05:05] <life> Hey guys, I tried to install pidgin 2.4.0 from .debs obtained from getdeb, but the pidgin deb is listing libpango1.0-0 as an unsatisfied dependency
[05:05] <life> but a quick look through adept shows that it's there
[05:05] <wswindell> The link says LimeWireSoftOther
[05:06] <life> Any ideas on how to get it to work?
[05:06] <wswindell> can I install limewire through adept or synaptics
[05:06] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the full name of the file as listed in your file browser?
[05:07] <vinegaroon> no
[05:07] <wswindell> Just says LimeWire
[05:07] <prince_jammys> wswindell: that's a folder, right?
[05:07] <wswindell> correct
[05:08] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is inside this folder?
[05:08] <toter> life: pidgin 2.4.0 works fine on my system... I downloaded it from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pidgin/pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2... and then tar zxfv <filename>, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:08] <life> toter:
[05:08] <life> toter: Oops. Ah, do I need to remove some of the old packages such as libpurple?
[05:08] <wswindell> alot of .jar files, 1 runLime.sh file, and a root folder
[05:09] <prince_jammys> wswindell: and what happened when you did ./runLime.sh in  a terminal?
[05:09] <toter> life: i didn't remove anything...
[05:09] <wswindell> it did nothing
[05:10] <toter> life: what ubuntu version are you using?
[05:10] <life> kubuntu gutsy
[05:12] <sandro__> help
[05:12] <prince_jammys> wswindell: well i have no idea. why don't you just try installing frostwire? it's really exactly the same
[05:12] <prince_jammys> !frostwire | wswindell
[05:12] <ubotu> wswindell: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:12] <life> toter: Hmm, why's it giving me a v: Cannot open: No such file or directory upon tar -xfvz?
[05:12] <prince_jammys> wswindell: just follow those steps
[05:13] <wswindell> if it involves a .deb file, cant run through GDebi
[05:13] <toter> life: try tar zxfv pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2
[05:13] <toter> not -zxfv
[05:13] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you don't have to use GDEbi
[05:13] <life> toter: gzip:stdin:not in gzip format
[05:14] <sandro__> ok so my friend has a wireless card that isn't being detected and isn't working, so I ran lspci and got this output for the wireless card: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01), using this information I determined it to be an atheros AR5006EG and ended up through looking for the drivers on this webpage: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros.  My question is where do I go
[05:14] <sandro__> from here to get/install the driver, as I have never done any work with a driver before
[05:14] <toter> ops
[05:14] <toter> you're right
[05:14] <wswindell> what can i use instead
[05:14] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you can just do::   sudo dpkg -i  filename.deb
[05:14] <toter> you have to use ark
[05:14] <Hydrogen> err
[05:14] <Hydrogen> no
[05:14] <wswindell> thanks alot
[05:14] <Hydrogen> tar xjvf pidgin-2.4.0.tar.bz2
[05:14]  * Hydrogen points toter at man:/tar
[05:14] <life> Ooh. Thanks, Hydrogen, that did the job
[05:15]  * toter is still learning... :/
[05:15] <toter> thanks for the tip hydrogen
[05:15] <life> toter: so, after that, I should ./configure?
[05:16] <toter> life: man... after that one... ask hydrogen :)
[05:17] <vinegaroon> life: cd to the directory first
[05:17] <Hydrogen> life: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=2259
[05:17] <Hydrogen> might be the better solution
[05:17]  * Hydrogen isn't sure how trustworthy getdeb is
[05:17] <Hydrogen> google++
[05:17] <Hydrogen> !getdeb
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Hydrogen> neither do I ubotu :(
[05:18] <vinegaroon> life: cd pidgin-2.4.0, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:18] <Hydrogen> not necessary if you use the deb
[05:18] <life> vinegaroon: Hmmm. I did the ./configure but it won't make
[05:18]  * Hydrogen is a much bigger fan of using the package manager
[05:18] <Hydrogen> when possible
[05:18] <life> Hydrogen: I tried the deb but it depends on some strange piece of futuristic technology
[05:19] <vinegaroon> life: you'll have to look at ./configure's output
[05:19] <toter> life: compiling the source worked fine for me
[05:19] <vinegaroon> you're probably missing some -dev library
[05:19] <Hydrogen> you likely need to install a bunch of -dev packages as well as a toolchain
[05:19] <life> That sounds frighteningly complicated
[05:19] <toter> welcome to linux
[05:19] <Hydrogen> it's more complicated than installing a deb
[05:20] <Hydrogen> I'd try and figure out why the one I linked wouldn't install
[05:20] <life> Well, I tried the deb. But it says there's a dependency (libpango1.0-0) that's missing
[05:20] <Hydrogen> install that via apt
[05:20] <toter> i had to install some 5 or 6 missing libraries
[05:21] <Hydrogen> sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0
[05:21] <toter> Hydrogen: It's not the latest version....
[05:21] <toter> Hydrogen: I mean pidgin
[05:21] <sandro__> ok maybe I should dumb down my question
[05:21] <life> Hydrogen: nothing happened.
[05:21] <Hydrogen> that link is to 2.4.0 toter..
[05:22] <Hydrogen> life: no output at all?
[05:22] <life> Hydrogen: the computer's just like 'yeah, I have that, thanks anyway.'
[05:22] <wswindell> ubuntu selects its chosen users...
[05:22] <Hydrogen> oh
[05:22] <Hydrogen> hmm
[05:22] <Hydrogen> thats fun!
[05:22] <life> Hydrogen: I'll take your word for it
[05:22] <prince_jammys> wswindell: so, did it work?
[05:23] <wswindell> i am downloading frostwire, and 20% of the way through, it said it was binary, and saving would result in a corrupt firle
[05:23] <life> I think kubuntu really hates me
[05:24] <toter> Hydrogen: I just install pidgin via apt-get... The version is 2.3.1...
[05:24] <wswindell> now the download says stalled
[05:24] <Hydrogen> toter: right
[05:24] <toter> installed
[05:24] <Hydrogen> toter: thats why I linked to a deb
[05:24] <Hydrogen> of 2.4.0
[05:24] <wswindell> no stalled
[05:24] <Hydrogen> personally I use kopete and alls good, so I don't know for certain
[05:24] <life> hmm
[05:24] <life> Hydrogen: any ideas on how to fix this pangomabober?
[05:24] <Hydrogen> life: not right now :/
[05:25] <Hydrogen> not thinking that straight currently though
[05:25] <prince_jammys> wswindell: the file should be a .deb
[05:25] <Hydrogen> so
[05:26] <wswindell> thats what the download manager said it was, but an error sayin it was binary popped up
[05:26] <wswindell> i have a limewire file on my desktop, could that work somehow
[05:26] <prince_jammys> wswindell: hold on
[05:26] <wswindell> ok
[05:27] <life> why use limewire anyway :/
[05:27] <prince_jammys> wswindell: right click on the ubuntu link at the frostwire site, and do "save as" and save it
[05:27] <life> and Hydrogen: is there some way to download a more recent version of libpango?
[05:27] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you should be able to download that deb file
[05:30] <toter> life: i just installed 2.3.1 and it works fine... anything special on the 2.4.0 version?
[05:30] <life> toter: not really, I think it just looks a bit better
[05:30] <abortd> anyone know why gparted wont let me format to ntfs?
[05:31] <life> toter: how'd you get 2.3.1? the only version I could get outta adept was 2.2.1
[05:31] <wswindell> prince_jammys: it is downloading
[05:31] <prince_jammys> wswindell: ok
[05:31] <toter> life: sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <prince_jammys> wswindell: tell me when it's done
[05:32] <life> toter: nothing really happens for me :/
[05:32] <toter> life: then remove the 2.2.1 version...
[05:33] <toter> and then sudo apt-get install pidgin
[05:33] <wswindell> its finished and placed on my desktop
[05:33] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what's it called
[05:34] <wswindell> frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:35] <prince_jammys> wswindell: go to a terminal and do ::  sudo dpkg -i frostwireblahblah     (the name of the file)
[05:35] <toter> life: but compiling the 2.4.0 version is much more fun
[05:35] <life> toter: hmm, only installs the 2.21 for me
[05:35] <prince_jammys> wswindell: sorry, sudo dpkg -i Desktop/frostwireblah
[05:35] <life> toter: strange
[05:36] <sandro__> ok guys I need to install a driver for an atheros AR5006EG
[05:36] <sandro__> Where can I find it
[05:36] <sandro__> I found a ubuntu help forum post about it but the fix they posted didn't help
[05:37] <sandro__> apparently atheros cards worked in the past with kubuntu but have since stopped
[05:37] <prince_jammys> sandro__: this ? http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[05:38] <toter> life: i'm using hardy heron alpha 5... I don't know... maybe 2.2.1 is the latest version for gutsy... my apt-get shows 2.3.1 as the latest
[05:38] <life> ahh
[05:38] <sandro__> thanks prince_jammys I'm opening now
[05:38] <life> toter: that might be why
[05:39] <life> sandro__: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper too
[05:39] <prince_jammys> wswindell: so, do we have success?
[05:40] <wswindell> prince_jammys: it gives me a list of options to use with dpkg
[05:40] <wswindell> hold on a sec
[05:40] <prince_jammys> wswindell: what is the command you typed (paste it here)
[05:41] <wswindell> i did it wrong
[05:41] <sandro__> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[05:41] <prince_jammys> maybe you forgot the -i
[05:41] <prince_jammys> !info ndiswrapper
[05:41] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[05:41] <prince_jammys> heh
[05:41] <life> ...
[05:41] <prince_jammys> !ndiswrapper
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <life> how
[05:41] <life> hmm
[05:41] <life> that's
[05:41] <prince_jammys> argh
[05:41] <life> REALLY wierd
[05:42] <life> oh well
[05:42] <life> just download it I guess from sourceforge
[05:42] <wswindell> Desktop/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:42] <life> sandro__:http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[05:44] <prince_jammys> wswindell::do this::::     sudo dpkg -i  Desktop/frostwire-4.13.5.i586.deb
[05:44] <life> hm
[05:44] <wswindell> its working
[05:45] <life> torrents > limewire :/
[05:46] <prince_jammys> wswindell: congratulations.  as you will see, it looks like limewire, acts like limewire and basically IS limewire
[05:46] <wswindell> its says setting up frostwire (4.13.5)
[05:46] <wswindell> then back to the basic command line beginning'
[05:46] <prince_jammys> wswindell: ok now look in your menus
[05:47] <life> aww, sandro left :/
[05:47] <wswindell> tahnks man your the only one who describe it to me without being rude or nasty. You're the best!
[05:47] <wswindell> THANKS! prince_jammys is the best!
[05:47] <wswindell> see ya
[05:47] <prince_jammys> wswindell: you're welcome. now don't get busted
[05:48] <life> hmm. prince you know of any apps worth getting?
[05:48] <prince_jammys> what kind?
[05:48] <prince_jammys> yakuake
[05:48] <prince_jammys> you have yakuake?
[05:49] <life> yakuake?
[05:49] <life> what is it?
[05:49] <prince_jammys> !info yakuake
[05:49] <ubotu> yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[05:49] <prince_jammys> life: get it!
[05:49] <prince_jammys> and then press f12
[05:49] <prince_jammys> you'll see
[05:49] <life> o_O
[05:50] <life> Interesting
[05:50] <prince_jammys> life: do you do stuff on a terminal ever?
[05:50] <life> to install stuff
[05:50] <life> and stuff I guess
[05:50] <prince_jammys> if you do, you will LOVE yakuake
[05:50] <life> Hehehe
[05:50] <prince_jammys> yeah even if you use it just to install stuff
[05:51] <prince_jammys> clear
[05:51] <prince_jammys> wrong window
[05:51] <life> bah, adept is slowww
[05:52] <prince_jammys> yeah adept is super slow
[05:52] <life> is there any way to manually update to hardy without reinstall?
[05:52] <prince_jammys> i'm not sure, since hardy is still alpha
[05:53] <prince_jammys> !hardy
[05:53] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:53] <life> hmm
[05:53] <life> guess it's not too safe
[05:53] <life> yet
[05:53] <prince_jammys> yeah, i wouldn't recommend it unless you're the type
[05:53] <life> that likes to fix a LOT of stuff?
[05:53] <prince_jammys> aha
[05:54] <life> I'll pass. can't wait for the next version of kde though
[05:54] <vinegaroon> life: hardy isn't to bad, you can upgrade to it quite easily.
[05:54] <life> vinegaroon: is it bug-infested?
[05:54] <prince_jammys> life: you'll be the one finding out :)
[05:55] <toter> life: if you can't wait for the next version of kde... install hardy! :)
[05:55] <vinegaroon> life: I've noticed some but none that have stopped me doing what I want
[05:55] <life> Hehehe
[05:55] <life> What version of KDE does Hardy accompany?
[05:55] <vinegaroon> 3.5.9 and 4.0.2
[05:55] <life> Ooooh, 4.0.2
[05:55] <vinegaroon> mm
[05:56] <life> That alone might be worth an upgrade
[05:56] <vinegaroon> it is possible to get it in gutsy
[05:56] <life> How might one of these "upgrades" be done?
[05:57] <vinegaroon> I'm not sure about kubuntu's graphical methods since I don't use adept or anything, but I just replace gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list with hardy
[05:57] <vinegaroon> and then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <life> Hmmm.
[05:58] <vinegaroon> just go kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <life> Sounds pretty easy, I guess
[05:58] <vinegaroon> and it has a find/replace thing
[05:58] <life> Should I do it now, do you think?
[05:58] <sandro__> hey what did you guys just have me install?
[05:58] <sandro__> because it messed up xserver
[05:58] <sandro__> I need to uninstall everything related to it
[05:59] <vinegaroon> if all you want is the kde 4 it should be easy to get in gutsy
[05:59] <life> Ooh. Yes, yes, that's about all I want.
[05:59] <life> How might I get my hands on this KDE 4 of yours?
[05:59] <vinegaroon> k just follow this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php
[05:59] <sandro__> ok so guys
[05:59] <sandro__> what's the name of the package that you had me install
[05:59] <vinegaroon> pretty easy
[05:59] <sandro__> I can't check the log
[06:00] <sandro__> as xserver won't start
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper?
[06:00] <sandro__> thanks
[06:00] <sandro__> can you look up what packages are related to it in aptitude's package manager/
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper is not in apt -- i don't know where you got it from
[06:01] <life> Neat, thanks vine
[06:01] <vinegaroon> np
[06:01] <hydrogen> uhh, wut prince_jammys?
[06:01] <hydrogen> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 - Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernelmodule
[06:01] <hydrogen> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[06:01] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in gutsy
[06:01] <sandro__> I looked for that thanks hydrogen
[06:01] <vinegaroon> ndiswrapper is..
[06:01] <hydrogen> why do I have it..
[06:01] <hydrogen> !info ndiswrapper-utils universe
[06:01] <sandro__> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:01] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (source: ndiswrapper): Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.43-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 32 kB, installed size 128 kB
[06:01] <hydrogen> ah..
[06:02] <life> its mainly used for wireless drivers
[06:02] <sandro__> yes
[06:02] <hydrogen> thats a really odd versioning scheme
[06:02] <life> it's fun
[06:02] <sandro__> but it messed up my nvidia drivers
[06:02] <hydrogen> ndiswrapper-utils-1,9.1.43-1ubuntu2?
[06:02] <sandro__> which I'm not happy about
[06:02] <life> o_O
[06:02] <life> not sure if that's possible
[06:03] <sandro__> yes
[06:03] <sandro__> but prior to installing that package
[06:03] <sandro__> I had a working xserver
[06:03] <sandro__> on my friends computer here
[06:03] <sandro__> and now after installing it
[06:03] <crackhead_25> what's the command to query local ip?
[06:03] <sandro__> the xserver does not work
[06:03] <vinegaroon> crackhead_25: ifconfig
[06:03] <vinegaroon> probably sudo ifconfig
[06:04] <sandro__> I hit help on aptitude and it froze
[06:04] <sandro__> this is fucking stressful
[06:04] <sandro__> !ohmy
[06:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:04] <sandro__> sorry
[06:04] <toter> welcome to linux
[06:05] <prince_jammys> sandro__: do you get an error from x?
[06:08] <sandro___> this isn't helping
[06:08] <vinegaroon> sandro__: what does it say when you try and start x?
[06:09] <sladigar> how do i change the permissions of an hd and/or the file inside?
[06:09] <sladigar> file(s)
[06:11] <sandro___> monitor not found
[06:11] <sandro___> something like that
[06:11] <sandro___> I'm in the middle of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <vinegaroon> sladigar: the command is chmod
[06:12] <sladigar> in terminal?
[06:12] <vinegaroon> yes
[06:12] <life> vinegaroon: after I add that line to sources.list, what should I do to install it?
[06:13] <sandro___> EE: screen(S) found but none have a usable configuration
[06:13] <vinegaroon> life: sudo apt-get update
[06:13] <life> and it should work?
[06:13] <vinegaroon> life: then sudo apt-get install kde4-core
[06:13] <vinegaroon> sandro__: is that the only error?
[06:13] <sandro___> Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[06:13] <sladigar> so chmod /media/hdb1
[06:13] <sladigar> ?
[06:13] <life> ooh. And also, where's my login manager o_O
[06:14] <sandro___> I seriously need help
[06:14] <sandro___> like phisical harm will befall me if I don't fix this
[06:14] <vinegaroon> sladigar: what permissions do you want to change?
[06:14] <vinegaroon> life: do you mean the kde4 kdm?
[06:14] <sladigar> the permissions on my harddrives and files, as far as read/write, are all root
[06:15] <life> well, how do I change from kde3 -> 4?
[06:15] <vinegaroon> sandro__: do you have your Nvidia driver installed?
[06:15] <sandro___> yes
[06:15] <sandro___> it was JUST working BEFORE you told me to install the stuff you did
[06:15] <sandro___> I'd love to go back to taht
[06:15] <vinegaroon> life: in kdm, go select session and select KDE 4
[06:16] <sladigar> i would like to be able to rename my HD, and if not that, at least be able to add files to my HD
[06:16] <vinegaroon> sandro__: I didn't tell you to install anything..
[06:16] <life> Ah, like, start a new session?
[06:16] <toter> sandro___: now nobody will help just to see you seriously hurt
[06:16] <sandro___> you didn't
[06:16] <sandro___> TOTER THAT SERIOUSLY ISN'T FUNNY
[06:16] <vinegaroon> life: no logout and there is a menu you can get to in kdm
[06:16] <sandro___> like it's late
[06:16] <sandro___> the guy want's to go to sleep
[06:17] <sandro___> and I'm out of here on friday
[06:17] <sandro___> so let's please get this done
[06:17] <sandro___> what was the name of that package again?
[06:17] <sandro___> I'll uninstall it and restart the system
[06:17] <sandro___> in the hopes that it fixes what's happened
[06:17] <sladigar> sudo apt-get remove (whatever files you installed)
[06:17] <vinegaroon> sladigar: you can't just plug in the drive?
[06:18] <sladigar> it's plugged in, and i can access it, but i wanna add/delete things, and it says i need root to do that
[06:18] <sandro___> the thing I installed is listed earlyer in the chat
[06:18] <sandro___> I can't see it as I'm in irssi and a console
[06:18] <prince_jammys> ndiswrapper
[06:18] <sladigar> then scroll up and find it
[06:19] <sandro___> I can't scroll up I'm in a console
[06:19] <sladigar> dude, page up button scrolls up
[06:19] <vinegaroon> sladigar: so it popped up in /media automatically?
[06:19] <sandro___> I've since logged out and in since you guys listed it last
[06:19] <sladigar> no, i had to do....something, a while ago
[06:19] <sandro___> now would someone please tell me what shows up in adept manager
[06:19] <sandro___> when you search for ndiswrapper
[06:19] <sladigar> i just can't remember (like a month ago)
[06:20] <prince_jammys> sandro__  press tab to autocomplete
[06:20] <prince_jammys> !find ndiswrapper
[06:20] <vinegaroon> what filesystem does the drive use?
[06:20] <life> ndiswrapper's not in apt
[06:20] <sandro___> tab DOES NOTHING
[06:20] <sladigar> sandro___: you seem to be demanding from a group who is only here to help a community, you need to chill, whatever your problem is
[06:20] <sandro___> dude
[06:20] <sandro___> I'm going to have my ass handed to me
[06:21] <sandro___> by some dude who wanted me to get his wireless working
[06:21] <vinegaroon> sandro__: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:21] <sandro___> ndiswrapper-1. something please
[06:21] <vinegaroon> and then startx again
[06:22] <sladigar> i don't remember
[06:22] <sladigar> umm
[06:22] <sandro___> error while running install command for nvidia
[06:22] <hydrogen> sandro__: pastebin the results of dmesg | tail
[06:22] <hydrogen> err
[06:22] <sladigar> they were win partition
[06:22] <hydrogen> dmesg | tail -n30
[06:23] <vinegaroon> sladigar: the drive should just pop up, you're running kubuntu with kde running right?
[06:23] <sladigar> yeah
[06:24] <sladigar> like i said, the drive is there, i just can't alter it
[06:24] <sladigar> because of the permissions
[06:24] <vinegaroon> is it a partition on your hard drive or a usb drive or what?
[06:25] <prince_jammys> sandro: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:25] <prince_jammys> sandro__ did you try booting with a different kernel first?
[06:25] <sladigar> on a secondary harddrive, internal
[06:25] <vinegaroon> ah k
[06:25] <vinegaroon> well try remounting it
[06:25] <sladigar> ...
[06:26] <sladigar> ok
[06:26] <sladigar> is there a guide somewhere on how to do this?
[06:26] <vinegaroon> sladigar: kk.. what is the partition name? Like /dev/sdb1 type of thing?
[06:26] <life> vinegaroon: hmm, kde4 didn't take that long to install.
[06:26] <sladigar> all of them are in media
[06:26] <prince_jammys> sandro__  first i would try booting from a different kernel from grub
[06:26] <vinegaroon> life: .. yeah?
[06:27] <life> vinegaroon: dunno. just kinda surprised.
[06:27] <life> vinegaroon: dunno. expected it to take maybe a few hours
[06:27] <prince_jammys> sandro: the packages named "ndiswrapper" are ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[06:27] <vinegaroon> sladigar: if you can't use it you might not have mounted it right
[06:27] <sladigar> ok
[06:27] <vinegaroon> life: ah.. well test it and see
[06:27] <sladigar> wait
[06:27] <sladigar> no
[06:27] <sladigar> i can use it
[06:27] <sladigar> i can access it
[06:27] <sladigar> all of the partitions
[06:27] <dalton2345> hello...I'm ready to install kubuntu, I downloaded the image...I'm wondering should I connect the pc to internet while I download it?
[06:27] <sladigar> i and use the info on them
[06:28] <dalton2345> while I install it sorry
[06:28] <sladigar> but i can't add or delete files
[06:28] <prince_jammys> dalton2345: sure
[06:28] <dalton2345> install in text mode?
[06:28] <vinegaroon> sladigar: do you know if it's a fat32 or ntfs partition?
[06:28] <sladigar> ntfs
[06:28] <vinegaroon> sladigar: ah
[06:28] <sladigar> my usb is fat32
[06:28] <life> vinegaroon: to test it I log off?
[06:28] <sladigar> and i can access that, with full perm
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: so you need read/write on the ntfs partition, right?
[06:29] <sladigar> yeah
[06:29] <dalton2345> I have options for install in text mode or OEM install
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: is it currently mounted?
[06:29] <sladigar> it is
[06:29] <vinegaroon> sladigar: install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config
[06:29] <prince_jammys> sladigar: what's the device name and/or mount point/
[06:30] <vinegaroon> life: you could, or you could start a new session
[06:30] <prince_jammys> the directory where it's mounted
[06:30] <sladigar> vinegaroon: sudo apt-get? prince_jammys: they are mounted in /media/hdb(1,5,6&7)
[06:31] <sladigar> 4 total
[06:31] <vinegaroon> sladigar: yes
[06:31] <prince_jammys> sladigar: which one is the ntfs one?
[06:31] <sladigar> all 4
[06:31] <sladigar> they are all one partitioned 250gb hd
[06:31] <prince_jammys> sladigar: you need to change all 4, correct?
[06:31] <vinegaroon> sladigar: I believe ntfs-config lets you enable read/write on ntfs partitions
[06:32] <sladigar> i would like to access with read/write on all 4, yes
[06:32] <prince_jammys> sladigar: paste the output of only two lines from this::   grep /media/hdb /etc/fstab
[06:32] <prince_jammys> just to see what's going on
[06:33] <prince_jammys> i assume four lines will show up, if they are automounted
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb6 /media/hdb6 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:33] <sladigar> /dev/hdb7 /media/hdb7 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:34] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok you need to install ntfs-3g, if you haven't already
[06:34] <prince_jammys> !info ntfs-3g
[06:34] <prince_jammys> sladigar: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[06:34] <vinegaroon> sladigar: change ro to rw in all those lines
[06:34] <sladigar> ...
[06:35] <sladigar> how do i do that
[06:35] <prince_jammys> install ntfs-3g first
[06:35] <sladigar> did the install on 3g
[06:35] <sladigar> working on config
[06:35] <sladigar> k, got em both
[06:35] <vinegaroon> sladigar: run ntfs-config
[06:36] <life> Wow, kde4 is beautiful
[06:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:36] <sladigar> programme needs to be run as root
[06:36] <vinegaroon> sladigar: sudo ntfs-config
[06:36] <life> it's all black and shiiiny
[06:36] <vinegaroon> yep :D
[06:36] <sladigar> holy sweet!
[06:36] <life> is it safe for everyday use?
[06:37] <prince_jammys> sladigar: done?
[06:37] <sladigar> i do believe so!
[06:37] <sladigar> lemme check
[06:37] <prince_jammys> if you now do the same grep command you will see the fstab lines are different
[06:37] <prince_jammys> grep /media/hdb /etc/fstab
[06:38] <vinegaroon> life: I guess that depends what you call safe... it's probably fine but I'm still using 3.5.9 cos 4.0.2 still seems a bit buggy
[06:38] <life> nod nod
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb6 /media/hdb6 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <sladigar> /dev/hdb7 /media/hdb7 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:38] <vinegaroon> sladigar: that looks better :)
[06:38] <prince_jammys> see?
[06:38] <sladigar> indeed
[06:38] <sladigar> you guys are the best
[06:38] <prince_jammys> so you're set
[06:39] <sladigar> for the most part, yup!
[06:39] <sladigar> just don't know how to rename HDs
[06:39] <prince_jammys> you mean the volume label?
[06:39] <sladigar> yeah
[06:39] <prince_jammys> or the mount point?
[06:39] <sladigar> ...
[06:39] <prince_jammys> the /media/hdb1?
[06:39] <sladigar> yes, the hdb1 part
[06:39] <prince_jammys> i can show you that
[06:40] <sladigar> would you?
[06:40] <prince_jammys> yes
[06:40] <sladigar> thank you
[06:40] <prince_jammys> ok, there may be a GUI way but i only know the other way
[06:40] <prince_jammys> ready?
[06:40] <sladigar> tha'ts ok
[06:40] <prince_jammys> open a terminal and we're going to unmount all of them first
[06:40] <sladigar> ok
[06:40] <prince_jammys> umount /media/hdb1
[06:40] <prince_jammys> sudo
[06:41] <prince_jammys> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[06:41] <prince_jammys> and do that for all four
[06:41] <sladigar> kk
[06:41] <sladigar> donme
[06:41] <sladigar> done
[06:41] <prince_jammys> make sure you close any filebrowsers or terminals that are browsing the ntfs partitions, or it will tell you they're busy
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok now :: sudo mkdir /media/blahblah /media/blahblah2 /media/blahblahetc
[06:42] <life> Only thing I don't like about KDE is the huge taskbar :/
[06:43] <prince_jammys> sladigar: that will create four new directories under /media with your choice of name
[06:43] <prince_jammys> sladigar: clear?
[06:44] <prince_jammys> sladigar: avoid spaces in the dir names
[06:44] <prince_jammys> better yet, do NOT use spaces :)
[06:44] <sladigar> lol, didn't use spaces, but got an error
[06:44] <prince_jammys> what error?
[06:44] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/files /media/music /media/movies /media stuff
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media': File exists
[06:45] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/files
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/files': File exists
[06:45] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ sudo mkdir /media/music
[06:45] <sladigar> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/music': File exists
[06:45] <prince_jammys> sladigar:  stop for a sec
[06:45] <sladigar> kk
[06:45] <prince_jammys> it's the space after /media stuff
[06:45] <sladigar> OH!
[06:45] <sladigar> lol
[06:45] <prince_jammys> its /media/stuff   (the other's were successfully made)
[06:45] <abortd> if i have windows as my first partition before my swap and my my ext 3 partition will it affect anything?
[06:45] <prince_jammys> and btw, you made a folder "stuff" in your current directory
[06:46] <sladigar> hahaha, i'm a newvb
[06:46] <prince_jammys> :)
[06:46] <sladigar> did i?
[06:46] <prince_jammys> do::  ls
[06:46] <sladigar> yup, i did
[06:46] <sladigar> lol
[06:46] <prince_jammys> see, you tried to make /media, which exists and then made "stuff"
[06:46] <sladigar> i went too fast, missed the slash
[06:46] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok first: rmdir stuff
[06:47] <prince_jammys> now stuff is gone
[06:47] <sladigar> yup
[06:47] <life> night guys, talk to you all tomorrow!
[06:47] <prince_jammys> bye
[06:47] <sladigar> later life
[06:47] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok now do:: ls /media and check whether the folders are what you wanted
[06:48] <prince_jammys> they should be listed
[06:48] <sladigar> still have all the hdb's and an sda
[06:48] <sladigar> i think the sda is my usb drive
[06:48] <prince_jammys> but you have the new ones?
[06:48] <sladigar> yup
[06:48] <sladigar> they are there
[06:48] <prince_jammys> ok that's fine
[06:48] <prince_jammys> after we're done, we delete the old ones
[06:48] <sladigar> kk
[06:48] <sladigar> (rmdir?)
[06:48] <prince_jammys> now all we have to do is edit fstab, which is the file we were looking at earlier
[06:49] <sladigar> the grep thing?
[06:49] <prince_jammys> sladigar: you use kde, right?
[06:49] <prince_jammys> yes, the grep thing
[06:49] <sladigar> yeah
[06:49] <sladigar> i should use kedit?
[06:49] <sladigar> orno
[06:49] <sladigar> or no
[06:49] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok::  do   kdesude kate /etc/fstab
[06:49] <prince_jammys> kdesudo
[06:49] <prince_jammys> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:49] <prince_jammys> it should open the file
[06:50] <sladigar> bash: kdesude: command not found
[06:50] <prince_jammys> typo, kdesudo
[06:50] <sladigar> installing as we....wait
[06:50] <sladigar> lol
[06:51] <prince_jammys> oh, you didn't have kdesudo?
[06:51] <sladigar> nupe
[06:51] <prince_jammys> what kubuntu are you on? gutsy?
[06:51] <klobster> kdesu works also
[06:51] <sladigar> this pc is all screwed up, i installed ubuntu, then kde
[06:51] <prince_jammys> ah
[06:52] <sladigar> kk, kate is open now
[06:52] <prince_jammys> sladigar: once you have the fstab file open, you can replace /media/hda whatever with your new mount points
[06:52] <prince_jammys> in the four lines
[06:53] <prince_jammys> or hdb, whatever it was
[06:53] <prince_jammys> the ntfs-3g lines
[06:54] <sladigar> ok, did that
[06:54] <sladigar> now mount?
[06:54] <prince_jammys> ok save the file and close kate
[06:54] <sladigar> kk
[06:54] <prince_jammys> now::  sudo mount /media/stuff && sudo mount /media/files && sudo mount ....
[06:54] <prince_jammys> for all four
[06:55] <sladigar> can i sudo mount /media/stuff /media/files /med.....
[06:55] <prince_jammys> maybe
[06:55] <prince_jammys> i would do them separately
[06:56] <prince_jammys> it almost definitely will get misinterpreted if you list them all like that
[06:56] <sladigar> kk
[06:57] <sladigar> gimme a min
[06:57] <prince_jammys> done?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> once, done, browse to the new dirs and you should see the contents like before
[06:57] <sladigar> not yet
[07:00] <sladigar> ok, all good
[07:00] <prince_jammys> sladigar: ok now you can delete the old mount points
[07:00] <sladigar> so now sudo rmdir /media/hda1
[07:00] <prince_jammys> yes, rmdir deletes a directory only if it's empty, which is what we want
[07:00] <sladigar> kk
[07:00] <sladigar> lemme try it out
[07:00] <prince_jammys> that way nothing gets deleted by accident
[07:02] <sladigar> sladigar@omni:~$ ls /media
[07:02] <sladigar> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  files  floppy  floppy0  movies  music  MyBook  stuff
[07:02] <prince_jammys> looks good
[07:02] <sladigar> much better
[07:02] <prince_jammys> you're set
[07:03] <sladigar> so it would be the same steps to rename the cdrom drives?
[07:03] <sladigar> this is just curiosity
[07:03] <prince_jammys> i'm not sure
[07:03] <prince_jammys> probably
[07:03] <sladigar> kk
[07:03] <prince_jammys> i wouldn't mess with that, because that only gets mounted when you insert a cd
[07:03] <sladigar> i didn't know, because whenever you put a disk in, it renames the drive, as long as the disk has a title
[07:03] <sladigar> yeah
[07:04] <sladigar> what you said
[07:04] <sladigar> lol
[07:04] <prince_jammys> but that's how it works. fstab shows the mount points for different devices
[07:04] <sladigar> that is so cool
[07:04] <sladigar> it's longer winded than DOS was
[07:04] <prince_jammys> :)
[07:05] <sladigar> but same princepals
[07:05] <sladigar> awesome
[07:05] <prince_jammys> well, you did have four
[07:05] <prince_jammys> :)
[07:05] <sladigar> that i did
[07:05] <sladigar> lol
[07:05] <prince_jammys> the thing about unix/linux is that you can open and read the config files (like fstab)
[07:05] <prince_jammys> they are text files
[07:05] <sladigar> yeah, i have edited xorg.conf more times than i can count
[07:06] <prince_jammys> heh, then you know
[07:06] <sladigar> still can't get my mouse figured out
[07:06] <sladigar> yeah
[07:06] <prince_jammys> special kind of mouse?
[07:06] <sladigar> i have a 7 button fellowes, it loads as 9 buttons, kde and gnome only recognize 5
[07:06] <prince_jammys> sladigar: google is good for that
[07:06] <sladigar> i have tried xmodmap
[07:07] <sladigar> oh, trust me, google is sick of me by now
[07:07] <sladigar> lol
[07:07] <prince_jammys> sladigar: did you try google:::    ubuntu gutsy mouse_model xorg.conf
[07:07] <sladigar> i have done similar things
[07:07] <sladigar> i have tried looking all the way to debian
[07:08] <sladigar> fellowes told me to go back to win
[07:08] <sladigar> i had to laugh
[07:08] <prince_jammys> hah
[07:08] <prince_jammys> why did they say that/
[07:08] <prince_jammys> ?
[07:08] <Kavi> Hello?
[07:08] <sladigar> they don't support non-ms programmes
[07:08] <prince_jammys> !hi
[07:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:09] <prince_jammys> well, if you haven't tried it, try specifically including "xorg.conf" in your search
[07:09] <sladigar> kk
[07:09] <prince_jammys> that's how i always assemble mine :)
[07:10] <sladigar> does it matter tha i am useing kde on this pc?
[07:10] <Kavi> Hey guys, I'm trying to install NetworkManager but I keep getting a error: C compiler cannot create executables.  Does anyone know why this is?  I can't seem to get it any other way because without networkmanager i don't have an internet connection.
[07:10] <prince_jammys> not really, not for Xorg stuff
[07:10] <sladigar> kk
[07:10] <prince_jammys> sladigar: so "ubuntu" is a better bet than "kubuntu" in google
[07:12] <vinegaroon> Kavi: what are you doing that makes the error?
[07:13] <Kavi> I am using ./configure from the extracted networkmanager folder.
[07:13] <storbeck> Kavi, do you have build-essentials?
[07:13] <Kavi> I'm not sure what that is?
[07:13] <Kavi> I don't think so.
[07:13] <vinegaroon> Kavi: networkmanager should be there by default... are you sure you don't have it?
[07:13] <storbeck> Kavi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:14] <Jucato> Kubuntu uses knetworkmanager (KDE GUI for networkmanager) by default
[07:14] <storbeck> It should be on the Kubuntu CD
[07:14] <vinegaroon> knetworkmanager is just a kde front end
[07:15] <Kavi> I wanted to reinstall it so I could return my settings back to factory but after restarting I realized that without an internet connection I could not install it again.
[07:15] <sladigar> prince_jammys: nada
[07:15] <prince_jammys> sladigar: what's the mouse make/model?
[07:15] <vinegaroon> Kavi: so did you uninstall it?
[07:15] <Kavi> I had to put the .tar.gz files on a usb stick to transfer the package over to the system.
[07:15] <Kavi> Ya I uninstalled it, then restarted.
[07:16] <sladigar> fellowes 5 button optical mouse 98911
[07:16] <storbeck> Kavi: Did you install the build-essental?
[07:16] <Kavi> after restarting I got stuck. so I found NetworkManager-0.6.5.tar.gz and used a usb move it over.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> Kavi: do you have the kubuntu disk you used to install?
[07:16] <Kavi> I can't install build-essental without an internet connection.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> Kavi: because you can just get the network manager packages from that
[07:16] <Kavi> Yes I have the live CD.
[07:16] <vinegaroon> ok
[07:17] <storbeck> Kavi: It's on the CD
[07:17] <vinegaroon> Kavi: put the disk in
[07:17] <Kavi> Okay its in.
[07:17] <vinegaroon> Kavi: and then sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[07:19] <prince_jammys> sladigar: tried this?: http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/gutsy/#enable-5button-mouse
[07:20] <sladigar> not yet
[07:20] <prince_jammys> sladigar: looks promising
[07:20] <Kavi> I get a "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[07:21] <sladigar> nope, my side buttons map as 8 and 9
[07:21] <vinegaroon> Kavi: what's the output when you run grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list   ?
[07:22] <RiccoHun> hi all
[07:22] <vinegaroon> hey
[07:22] <prince_jammys> sladigar: i don't know what that means, but did you try doing what it says in the link but replacing your numbers?   (don't forget to backup xorg.conf if you do)
[07:22] <Kavi> vinegaroon: Nothing happens...
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: ok, run sudo apt-cdrom add
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: with the disk in the drive
[07:23] <sladigar> yup
[07:23] <vinegaroon> Kavi: and then run sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <sladigar> all the numbers corospond with a mouse button
[07:23] <sladigar> usually, the left button is 1
[07:24] <sladigar> the middle and right are 2 and 3
[07:24] <sladigar> the scroll up and down are 4 and 5
[07:24] <sladigar> and the side are USUALLY 6 and 7, but mine are 8 and 9
[07:24] <prince_jammys> ah
[07:24] <sladigar> and gnome really doesn't like 8 and 9
[07:25] <Kavi> I get a ton of failed to fetch (address)
[07:26] <storbeck> I think I'm going to give SuSe a try.
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: that's ok
[07:27] <Kavi> When I ran sudo apt-cdrom add I got a ton of E: could not open file ..... and Unable to determine the file size .....
[07:27] <Kavi> okay...
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: hmm
[07:27] <vinegaroon> Kavi: does the cd get detected when you put it in?
[07:27] <Kavi> Yes.
[07:27] <Kavi> It shows on the desktop.
[07:28] <vinegaroon> Kavi: try sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add
[07:29] <Kavi> Is there a way to connect to the internet without using NetworkManger? and then using Adept to install it?
[07:30] <Jucato> if you have wired/ethernet, it could be possible
[07:30] <Jucato> how are you connecting to the internet now? and from where?
[07:30] <vinegaroon> Kavi: yeah
[07:30] <Kavi> after running apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add It does the same thing.  A please insert a Disk into the drive and press enter, So I press enter and it does a alot of could not open file stuff
[07:30] <Kavi> I'm wired to my router
[07:31] <vinegaroon> Kavi: ok then try sudo dhclient eth0
[07:31] <Jucato> :)
[07:31] <Kavi> I get a Network is down
[07:32] <vinegaroon> Kavi: sudo ifconfig
[07:32] <vinegaroon> and check that you're using the right device
[07:32] <Kavi> I get a command not found.
[07:32] <Jucato> ifconfig?
[07:32] <vinegaroon> sudo ifconfig?
[07:32] <Kavi> yup
[07:33] <Jucato> that's not good...
[07:33] <vinegaroon> try sudo /sbin/ifconfig
[07:33] <vinegaroon> maybe you're PATH is screwed up
[07:33] <vinegaroon> your*
[07:33] <Kavi> I get another command not found.
[07:34] <vinegaroon> uh
[07:34] <Jucato> hm.. I fear the worst...
[07:34] <vinegaroon> try ls /sbin
[07:34] <Kavi> okay
[07:34] <Kavi> I get a bunch of green items...
[07:34] <Jucato> can you find ifconfig there?
[07:34] <Kavi> some red and blue.
[07:34] <vinegaroon> try ls /sbin |grep ifconfig
[07:35] <Kavi> no ifconfig there.
[07:35] <vinegaroon> hmm
[07:35] <Kavi> closest is a iwconfig
[07:36] <vinegaroon> try whereis ifconfig
[07:36] <Kavi> ls /sbin |grep ifconfig did nothing....
[07:37] <vinegaroon> did you try whereis ifconfig ?
[07:37] <Kavi> whereis ifconfig states: "ifconfig:"
[07:37] <vinegaroon> um
[07:37] <vinegaroon> ok
[07:37] <Kavi> then back to kavi@kavi-kubuntu:~$
[07:37] <vinegaroon> that's very strange
[07:38] <Jucato> what does iwconfig say btw?
[07:38] <Kavi> The forum I got the info to uninstall network manager in the first place is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-441480.html I followed the last post made by jimbob
[07:39] <vinegaroon> is this a recent install?
[07:39] <Kavi> sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager net-tools
[07:39] <Kavi> Then re-boot your system and re-install them again. Hopefully everything will have to be set up again for your networks.
[07:39] <Kavi> sudo apt-get install network-manager net-tools
[07:39] <vinegaroon> oh
[07:39] <vinegaroon> I'm assuming ifconfig is in net-tools then..
[07:39] <Jucato> bad advice for just resetting network settings
[07:40] <vinegaroon> very
[07:40] <Kavi> Ya a pretty recent install...
[07:40] <Neo5967> hi
[07:40] <vinegaroon> you should be able to reinstall network manager and net-tools from your kubuntu disk
[07:40] <Kavi> how to I check what iwconfig says Jucato?
[07:40] <prince_jammys> just type iwconfig
[07:41] <Jucato> Kavi: type: iwconfig
[07:41] <Jucato> although I doubt iwconfig can help if net-tools was removed...
[07:41] <Kavi> lo no wireless extensions.
[07:41] <Kavi> eth0 no wireless extensions.
[07:42] <prince_jammys> so you can't install anything through apt?
[07:42] <Kavi> nope...
[07:42] <prince_jammys> check what vinegaroon is saying about installing from disk
[07:43] <vinegaroon> Kavi: open adept
[07:43] <Kavi> Ya he described how to do that but it did not work...
[07:43] <vinegaroon> and go Adept > Mangage Repositories
[07:43] <Kavi> when I try installing using apt get I get unmet dependencies and when I try to install those dependencies that it lists it just gives me more unmet
[07:43] <Jucato> I'm not sure if he can install packages from the Live CD...
[07:44] <vinegaroon> I'm sure he can
[07:44] <vinegaroon> you can add the cdrom to your sources through adept manager
[07:44] <Jucato> if and only if the live cd has the .deb files for them
[07:44] <prince_jammys> it should
[07:44] <vinegaroon> we'll see :)
[07:45] <Kavi> on what tab to I do that?
[07:45] <vinegaroon> Third-Party software
[07:45] <Jucato> the alternate install cd 100% has that. but not sure about the live cd
[07:45] <prince_jammys> since he needs those packages to use apt
[07:45] <vinegaroon> do you see a source that has cdrom in it?
[07:46] <Kavi> on the Third-Party Software tabe I see an add CD-ROM....
[07:46] <Jucato> prince_jammys: the Live CD has them pre-installed mostly.
[07:46] <vinegaroon> try that
[07:46] <storbeck> The LiveCD definately had the network manager...
[07:46] <storbeck> Hence the 'live' part
[07:46] <Jucato> storbeck: yes. but I'm talking about installable packages. not programs themselves
[07:47] <Kavi> I got a CD Error scanning the CD window.
[07:47] <Jucato> jucato@Suzaku:/media/cdrom0$ find . -name "*.deb" | grep net
[07:47] <vinegaroon> ok you may have to manually add it
[07:47] <Jucato> no net-tools on the gutsy live cd
[07:48] <Kavi> okay how do I manually add it?
[07:48] <storbeck> Jucato: Why don't you just copy the .deb to your USB drive and copy it over.
[07:48] <storbeck> Kavi***
[07:48] <Jucato> that's what I was going to say
[07:48] <Jucato> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net-tools download the net-tools .deb from here
[07:49] <Jucato> (again, the .deb package for net-tools is *not* on the live cd)
[07:49] <Kavi> where do I get the .deb files all I could find was NetworkManager-0.6.5.tar.gz and bz2
[07:49]  * Jucato points up ^^^
[07:49] <Kavi> okay give me a minute to transfer that from my laptop via usb stick then.
[07:49] <Jucato> for now all you need to have installed is net-tools, and dhcp3-client
[07:50] <Jucato> also download dhcp3-client and dhcp3-common: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/dhcp3-client and http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/dhcp3-common
[07:51] <Jucato> (you can download them by clicking on the i386 link at the bottom)
[07:52] <Kavi> Cool thanks :D
[07:55] <Kavi> okay I have moved the 3 files over to my desktop
[07:56] <Kavi> What order should I open them?
[07:56] <vinegaroon> Kavi: sudo dpkg -i path_to_file
[07:56] <Jucato> or click on them :)
[07:56] <Jucato> it should launch the installer in Gutsy (GDebi)
[07:56] <vinegaroon> yeah.. why not :D
[07:56] <vinegaroon> I've just never used that..
[07:56] <Jucato> I rarely use it. it's quite new to Kubuntu but Ubuntu had it for quite some time
[07:57] <Kavi> I get a Broken dependencies window.
[07:57] <Jucato> it's advantage over dpkg -i is that it automatically detects and installs missing dependencies (if they're available)
[07:57] <Jucato> Kavi: what does it say?
[07:58] <Kavi> It says: Your system has broken dependencies. This application can not continue until this is fixed. To fix it run 'sudo synaptic' or 'sudo apt-get install -f' in the terminal window.
[07:58] <Jucato> hm.. right... better stick to dpkg -i now :(
[07:58] <Jucato> vinegaroon: you can take it from here :)
[07:59] <vinegaroon> k
[07:59] <vinegaroon> Kavi: any errors if you use sudo dpkg -i path_to_file ?
[07:59]  * Jucato hates it when GUI's give error messages but don't really give enough detail to figure out why
[07:59] <vinegaroon> lol
[08:00] <Jucato> It's like getting punched in the face and being told "I punched you in the face"
[08:00] <Jucato> :/
[08:00] <SSJ_GZ> lol
[08:01] <Piddy>  In my downloaded Windows XP Pro SP2 Image.rar there are 3 images. image.ccd  image.img and image.sub. What shall I do?
[08:02] <Kavi> Okay I'll try to tell you what it said.
[08:03] <Kavi> Selection previously deselected package net-tools. (Reading database ...
[08:03] <Kavi> Unpacking net-tools ......
[08:03] <Kavi> Setting up net-tools .....
[08:03] <Kavi> thats basically it.
[08:03] <vinegaroon> that's good
[08:03] <Jucato> that's good
[08:03] <vinegaroon> now try sudo ifconfig
[08:03] <Jucato> hey! stop reading my mind!!!
[08:03] <vinegaroon> lol
[08:03] <Jucato> first and final warning >:)
[08:03] <vinegaroon> aww..
[08:04] <Jucato> hehe j/k :P
[08:04] <vinegaroon> :)
[08:04] <Piddy> Anyone know what to do?
[08:04] <vinegaroon> Piddy: what are you trying to do?
[08:04] <Kavi> okay I get a eth0
[08:04] <vinegaroon> ah
[08:04] <vinegaroon> ok
[08:04] <Kavi> and a bunch of info...
[08:04] <vinegaroon> now try sudo dhclient eth0
[08:05] <Jucato> I think he hasn't installed dhcp3-client and dhcp3-common yet
[08:05] <Piddy> vinegaroon: Trying to install Windows. I want both OSes.
[08:05] <Piddy> Kubuntu and Wxp
[08:05] <Jucato> !piracy
[08:05] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:05] <vinegaroon> yeah but did he might not have uninstalled dhcp3-client
[08:06] <Jucato> oh right
[08:06] <Jucato> the command not found was for ifconfig :)
[08:06] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:06] <Kavi> no... I have not installed those two yet... but it says: there is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 6016 killed old client process, removed PID file ...... blah.... more info.....
[08:07] <vinegaroon> what's the more info?
[08:07] <Jucato> !pastebin | Kavi
[08:07] <ubotu> Kavi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <vinegaroon> ah
[08:07] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:08] <Kavi> alright... well You will have to give me a minute to type it all out.  As I'm on my laptop I can't copy and paste at the moment.
[08:09] <Jucato> oh right.. um.. hm..
[08:09] <vinegaroon> ok
[08:09] <Jucato> Kavi: can you "ping www.google.com"?
[08:09] <Jucato> (if it works, press Ctrl+C to stop it)
[08:09] <Kavi> yes I can! :)
[08:10] <vinegaroon> :)
[08:10] <Jucato> yay it works :)
[08:10] <Jucato> sudo apt-get to your heart's content (I think)
[08:10] <vinegaroon> now you should be able to get network manager back
[08:11] <bubba> hello
[08:11] <Kavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58579/
[08:12] <vinegaroon> Kavi: yeah that's fine.. but you already know that
[08:12] <Kavi> Oh thank you sooo!!!! much guys!
[08:12] <Jucato> Kavi: right. it's working
[08:12] <bubba> i´ve just installed kubuntu :)
[08:12] <Jucato> !hi | bubba
[08:12] <ubotu> bubba: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:13] <bubba> ty i like it so far
[08:13] <bubba> i wonder how i install flash
[08:13] <vinegaroon> bubba: good work :)
[08:13] <Jucato> bubba: in the K Menu, go to Add/Remove Programs
[08:13] <Kavi> Yup. sudo apt-get install network-manager is the only thing left then? or do I have other packages missing because of what I did?
[08:13] <vinegaroon> bubba: in firefox it should be automatic when you go to a page requiring it
[08:13] <Jucato> search for "Flash" or "Kubuntu Restricted Extras" to get a whole lot of codecs and plugins
[08:14] <bubba> i dont have firefox
[08:14] <bubba> yet
[08:14] <vinegaroon> oh
[08:14] <bubba> i konqueror
[08:14] <vinegaroon> yep
[08:14] <storbeck> bubba: Are  you talking about a flash viewer, or a flash app to make movies?
[08:14] <Jucato> vinegaroon: installing it through Firefox won't install it for the whole system though
[08:14] <bubba> flash player
[08:15] <bubba> add/remove programs is not loading
[08:15] <vinegaroon> Jucato: yeah.. I was just assuming he wanted it for viewing flash stuff in firefox
[08:15] <Jucato> O.o
[08:15] <Jucato> why isn't it loading? :(
[08:16] <vinegaroon> bubba: you could try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:21] <bubba> sorry i got disconnected
[08:21] <vinegaroon> bubba: did that work?
[08:21] <bubba> i didnt see what u wrote
[08:22] <Jucato> [16:14] <vinegaroon> bubba: you could try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:22] <bubba> i got add/remove programs up now
[08:22] <bubba> its loading
[08:22] <vinegaroon> I haven't used that package but I assume it has flash in it
[08:23] <bubba> kubuntu is really nice
[08:23] <Jucato> vinegaroon: it does
[08:23] <vinegaroon> yeah
[08:24] <Jucato> it has flash, libxine1-ffmpeg (for mp3's and avi's), and java, among other things
[08:24] <vinegaroon> I'm currently using swfdec for flash
[08:24] <Jucato> hm. haven't tried that.. gnash fails utterly for the only purpose I need/want flash
[08:24] <vinegaroon> yeah I mostly just watch the odd youtube video
[08:24] <bubba> see i cant watch youtube
[08:25] <vinegaroon> I'm running hardy atm and gnash isn't working but swfdec runs youtube alright
[08:25] <Jucato> bubba: that's my only use for flash :)
[08:25] <bubba> lol
[08:26] <bubba> so what should i install
[08:26] <vinegaroon> bubba: kubuntu restricted extras
[08:26] <Jucato> if you have Add/Remove Programs up, you can just search for Flash or Kubuntu Restricted Extras
[08:26] <vinegaroon> just put "kubuntu" in the search
 it has flash, libxine1-ffmpeg (for mp3's and avi's), and java, among other things <--- what Kubuntu Restricted Extras has
[08:27] <bubba> ok ty
[08:28] <hacker> hi
[08:28] <vinegaroon> I only discovered today that you can install libdvdcss with libdvdread + a script it has
[08:29] <hacker> 中 国人有没有？
[08:29] <Jucato> !cn | hacker
[08:29] <hacker> 中国的，有没有
[08:29] <ubotu> hacker: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:30] <hacker> NO
[08:30] <Jucato> Speak in English
[08:30] <hacker> yes
[08:31] <bubba> its downloading :)
[08:31] <bubba> i was on suse 10.1....what a change lol
[08:32] <vinegaroon> better?
[08:32] <Jucato> 10.0 and 10.1 where a PITA. 10.3 is probably the best among the series
[08:32] <bubba> its so much faster and looks better
[08:32] <Jucato> s/where/were/
[08:32] <bubba> jucato i heard
[08:32] <Jucato> (funny, I experienced 10.2 and 10.3 to be a bit faster :P)
[08:33] <bubba> really
[08:33] <bubba> 10.1 is slow
[08:34] <tzd> i need help with sharing a folder between kubuntu desktop and ubuntu on a ps3 please? So far I've downloaded samba and installed it.
[08:34] <vinegaroon> does ubuntu have an "official" or recommended way of getting libdvdcss?
[08:35] <vinegaroon> tzd: right click the folder you want to share and go properties
[08:35] <Jucato> !dvdcss
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <Jucato> er...
[08:36] <Jucato> !libdvdcss
[08:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:36] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok
[08:36] <vinegaroon> I know how to install it I just wondered what if there was an official ubuntu method
[08:36] <vinegaroon> tzd: go to the share tab
[08:36] <Jucato> vinegaroon: and that's what I'm pointing to :)
[08:37] <Jucato> (or rather what I'm pointing to through the bot :P)
[08:37] <vinegaroon> oah ok
[08:37] <vinegaroon> medibuntu
[08:39] <vinegaroon> tzd: got that far?
[08:40] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok. Then i just add it to share right? I did this earlier but then I was able to share folders outside my "home" folder. I guess i was logged in as root to do that? Do i need to finetune any settings inside the share tab? Also, there's another tab to the right of the share tab called something like "file share" where I need to start a miniprogram?
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: yes. You probably shouldn't log in as root.
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: my tabs are "share" and "sharing"
[08:41] <vinegaroon> tzd: share is the one you want
[08:42] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok
[08:43] <tzd> vinegaroon: Is that it? Do I need to install samba on the client as well? Don't I need NFS?
[08:43] <vinegaroon> yes you will need samba on the client
[08:44] <tzd> vinegaroon: ah ok. So after I've installed Samba on the client it will work? Do i need to change any settings or share anything on the client?
[08:44] <vinegaroon> you shouldn't need nfs but you could use that instead of samba
[08:44] <vinegaroon> you shouldn't need to do anything on the client
[08:44] <tzd> vinegaroon: is NFS more difficult than samba?
[08:45] <vinegaroon> I don't know too much about graphical ways of using NFS
[08:45] <vinegaroon> so just stick to samba
[08:47] <tzd> vinegaroon: ok. Thanks for your help :)
[08:47] <vinegaroon> tzd: no problem
[08:52] <era32> Dzień dobry!
[09:13] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[09:13] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[09:16] <SlimeyPete> Please don't spam the channel. I imagine kdevelop will use any c++ libraries you have installed (you probably already have libstdc++ installed, see http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/documentation.html for docs)
[09:24] <Apple_Cat> slow night tonight
[09:35] <Piddy> I have a disc with 3 image files on it, and I don't know how to run it.  The images are in a rar file ON the disc, is this why?
[09:39] <SlimeyPete> yes, that's why.
[09:40] <SlimeyPete> you have to unrar the files first
[09:40] <SlimeyPete> and then if they're disc images, burn them to a CD (as an image, NOT as a file) using k3b
[09:41] <revgreendave>  trying to upgrade to edgy using gksu "update-manager -c" but it says i am uptodate. i am using dapper
[09:42] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: What do you mean "As an image, not as a file"?
[09:44] <ThomasD> good mornin' y'all
[09:44] <ThomasD> I have a little problem with kopete, I start it from konsole, no porblems there, it starts up just fine, but then when I want to set status to online, it does nothing
[09:44] <ThomasD> it doesn't connect to msn server
[09:44] <ThomasD> it doesn't give any error message
[09:44] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: disc images contain files which must be written to the disc. If you just drop an image file onto a data disc project in k3b (or nero) you will just burn a single file (the image). If you tell k3b that you specifically want to burn an image, it will extract the data from the image and burn all the files that are in it.
[09:44] <Piddy> ok
[09:44] <revgreendave> thomasD it could be msn itself
[09:45] <ThomasD> its for 2 days now
[09:45] <revgreendave> sometimes in windows msn wont connect
[09:45] <revgreendave> o
[09:45] <ThomasD> revgreendave: but I think it's kopete
[09:45] <ThomasD> because it doesn't do anything
[09:45] <ThomasD> it doesn't even try to connect
[09:45] <revgreendave> sorry was only trying to be anti windows supportive
[09:46] <revgreendave> msn hates me
[09:46] <ThomasD> np
[09:46] <ThomasD> and we all hate ms
[09:47] <ThomasD> hmm wtf, I just noticed my kwallet is gone
[09:48] <ThomasD> kwalletmanager is there, but no wallet is loaded?
[09:48] <Rettaw> Hello, if an application in Adept is greyed out so and inpossible to select, what causes this?
[09:50] <ThomasD> revgreendave: it's repared now, it was somethink with kwalletmanager
[09:51] <revgreendave> nice...
[09:57] <sbucat> hello i have a problem with alsa
[09:58] <sbucat> NO PREDEFINED KERNEL COMPILER IS DETECTED
[09:58] <sbucat> sorry for
[09:58] <sbucat> that
[09:58] <sbucat> but..it's was written in that way
[09:58] <sbucat> *** Please make sure that the same compiler version was used for building kernel
[09:59] <Piddy> Help? My disc won't eject:S
[09:59] <sbucat> Piddy: try eject on konsole
[09:59] <Piddy> Thanks ;)
[10:02] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: I clicked burn now. "Create Image" or "Only create image"?
[10:05] <Rettaw> never mind
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: no, don't create image. You need to burn from an image.
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: it's in the new projects menu
[10:06] <SlimeyPete> (i.e. where you select "data cd, data dvd, video dvd" etc.)
[10:07] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: There are so many different image things there. Which one?
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: oh, woops, sorry. It's under "tools" at the op
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> *top
[10:08] <SlimeyPete> not "new project"
[10:08] <Piddy> hm, ok.
[10:08] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Burn Cd image?
[10:09] <SlimeyPete> what sorts of files were in the RAR archives, btw? an ISO?
[10:09] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: yes that's the one, assuming it's a CD rather than DVD
[10:09] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: THere was image.img, .ccd and .sub.
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> oh... hrm, those are winimage files IIRC. I don't know if k3b will burn them, in fact I'm not sure anything under Linux will burn them (though it may be possible to convert to ISO).
[10:10] <SlimeyPete> it's a proprietary format, you see.
[10:11] <Piddy> Hm, ok. How do I convert to ISO?
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> hmm, cloneCD files, not winimage. Hang on I'll see if I can find a converter.
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> aha. There is a program in the repositories called ccd2iso
[10:12] <SlimeyPete> that'll be what you want. If you can use that to convert the image files to an ISO file then you can use k3b to burn the ISO.
[10:13] <Piddy> ok, hold on.
[10:16] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[10:16] <max_> Have the c++ in KDevelop a class to handle a dinamic list ???
[10:16] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: I have no idea how to use the program.
[10:17] <Piddy> I typed ccd2iso, and this came up
[10:17] <Piddy> Usage:
[10:17] <Piddy>         ccd2iso <.img filename> <.iso filename>
[10:17] <Piddy>         ccd2iso <option>
[10:17] <Piddy> option:
[10:17] <Piddy>         -?  -h  --help      show this help
[10:17] <Piddy>             -v  --version   show version number
[10:17] <Piddy> Oops, sorry
[10:17] <SlimeyPete> so ccd2iso image.img image.iso            (I imagine)
[10:20] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: ok. what about the .ccd and .sub?
[10:20] <Creationist> How do I convert a PDF file to something smaller.  It is 62mb and it takes about 30 seconds to load each page for viewing!
[10:20] <SlimeyPete> I should think it'll just pick those up automatically, Piddy. You won't need them any more once it's created the ISO.
[10:21] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Ok, but won't it need like, a path to the images?
[10:22] <SlimeyPete> well, yes if you're not currently in the same directory. In which case it'd be: ccd2iso /home/piddy/images/image.img /home/piddy/images/image.iso
[10:24] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Error: cannot open source file for reading!
[10:25] <SlimeyPete> did you use the correct path? The ones I gave above were only intended to be examples.
[10:26] <Piddy> o! I think I types images with a small i. hold on
[10:26] <Piddy> Yes, it works =D
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> :)
[10:26] <SlimeyPete> once it's created the ISO, use k3b to burn it as discussed earlier.
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> then when you look on the disc you will probably see lots of files rather than just the image files.
[10:27] <Jucato> hm... not this again?
[10:28] <Piddy> ok
[10:31] <pitfall> hi there
[10:31] <pitfall> I'm using kde 4.0.2
[10:31] <pitfall> when dist-upgrading, apt said :
[10:32] <pitfall>  following packages have been kept back: kde4libs-bin kdeartwork-style-kde4 kdelibs5 klipper-kde4 kwin-kde4 systemsettings-kde4
[10:32] <pitfall> Do I miss something ?
[10:32] <Jucato> pitfall: might want to check with the people in #kubuntu-kde4 if it's a known issue
[10:33] <pitfall> Jucato: thx
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, ah
[10:35]  * Jucato scratches his head
[10:36] <pitfall> ActionParsnip: thats what I was doing : apt-get install kde4core do the trick :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> pitfall, did you sudo apt-get update first?
[10:47] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: Yes, there are lots of other files on the disc now. What do I do?
[10:48] <SlimeyPete> Piddy: well, that depends what software it is. If it's an OS you'll probably have to reboot with the disc in the drive, for other software you'll need to locate the installer on the disc.
[10:50] <Piddy> SlimeyPete: It's an OS
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> then you'll need to reboot with the disc in the drive. It should boot from the CD, I imagine.
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> most do.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> SlimeyPete, could boot it in a virtualbox ;)
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> well yes, indeed.
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> I'd assumed that Piddy wanted to install it onto the machine itself but if virtualisation is wanted then virtualbox is indeed the way to go :)
[10:53] <Piddy> Nah, no virtualisation.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> its a good way to test if it is an OS too without having to reboot
[11:00] <Apple_Cat> how can i turn ksnapshot off ?tried in keyboard shortcuts and the program itself
[11:02] <Apple_Cat> or just use xmodmap ?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> input actions -> preset
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> actions -> printscreen.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, any good?
[11:11] <Apple_Cat> yep thanks a bunch ^.^
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, np :D
[11:14] <Apple_Cat> how are you this evening/ today anyway ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, its 11:20am here
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, not bad
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> you ok?
[11:18] <Apple_Cat> yep doing alright thanks
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, where you from?
[11:19] <Apple_Cat> Australia
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> UK represent over here
[11:20] <Apple_Cat> haha
[11:22] <Apple_Cat> got much planned for today ?
[11:22] <jussi01> ahem...
[11:22] <Apple_Cat> i mean.... thanks for fixing that problem *cough cough*
[11:23]  * Apple_Cat hides
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> work for anoher 4 hours,then chillin
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> *koff*
[11:25] <Apple_Cat> oh cool, where are you working ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, www.ultimatesoftware.com
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Apple_Cat, what do you do?
[11:33] <Apple_Cat> student
[11:34]  * jussi01 points at #kubuntu-offtopic ...
[11:35] <Apple_Cat> point taken
[11:36] <Apple_Cat> (for the second time)
[11:37] <Piddy> How do I boot from a cd?
[11:38] <Piddy> Just reboot? No buttons?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, you need to make your bios boot from cd
[11:38] <Piddy> actionParsnip, how?
[11:38] <Apple_Cat> in bios there should be a boot priority menu
[11:38] <Piddy> bios?
[11:39] <Piddy> Don't know what that is.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, it varies from Bios to bios, you'll need to rtfm
[11:39] <Piddy> I didn't understand a word of that:S
[11:39] <Piddy> lol
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, its the stuff no your screen before your operating system loads up
[11:39] <Piddy> oh
[11:39] <Apple_Cat> it should say press __key to go to menu when it boots up
[11:39] <Piddy> ok... what do I do when I'm in the menu?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, which menu?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, if yuo mean the bios menu, it varies massively
[11:40] <Piddy> Before the system starts up thing.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Piddy, get your bios manual out or download it online
[11:40] <A-mak> hi all, need a bit of help getting kubuntu installed.
[11:40] <Piddy> Where can I download it?
[11:41] <rockprincess> A-mak: fire away! what's the problem?
[11:41] <A-mak> I'm attempting to installed kubuntu on my laptop. However the install bombs out when it try's to create the new partitions because my swap is in use by it
[11:41] <A-mak> I've attempted to use the built in partition tool but it failed me and said it cant because its in use by another application
[11:41] <rockprincess> A-mak: bombs out?
[11:41] <A-mak> like
[11:42] <A-mak> it goes "scanning file structer" or something like that
[11:42] <A-mak> then poof.. installer is not running anymore
[11:42] <rockprincess> A-mak: try using "qparted" or "gparted" as a partitioner tool.......
[11:42] <jussi01> !rtfm > ActionParsnip
[11:42] <A-mak> yeah I tried that, but it says it cant do anything because another program is using it
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> Piddy: what kind of motherboard do you have ?
[11:43] <rockprincess> A-mak: what other program would be using it? try this...this should get you sorted: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[11:43] <Piddy> Apple_Cat no idea xD
[11:43] <Apple_Cat> laptop or desktop ?
[11:43] <A-mak> I'll boot it up and let you know, before it said a program was using it, qparted said the drive was busy :(
[11:44] <rockprincess> A-mak: try gparted.....
[11:44] <A-mak> I tried to umount /dev/sda0 but it says command not found
[11:44] <Piddy> Apple_Cat desktop
[11:44] <rockprincess> A-mak: are you using the alternate install cd or the desktop install?
[11:44] <A-mak> desktop install
[11:45] <Apple_Cat> what kind of desktop do you have ?
[11:45] <A-mak> IBM R31 laptop
[11:45] <A-mak> dual boots, had XP PRO + slackware on it.. then after much trouble XP PRO + Ubuntu 7.10 (I prefer KDE) now trying to get kubuntu 7.10 on their
[11:45] <rockprincess> A-mak: for the future, alternate/text based installs are better....
[11:46] <A-mak> hmm I'll go grab it
[11:46] <Apple_Cat> sorry, what kind of desktop do you have, Piddy?
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: wait
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: are you still using Ubuntu 7.10?
[11:46] <Piddy> Apple_Cat, what do you mean? Like, Compaq?
[11:46] <rockprincess> A-mak: if so , you could just install the kubuntu-desktop package...without having to reinstall everything
[11:47] <A-mak> nah I just tried to boot then got a grub error.. I think I managed to format the linux partition last night
[11:47] <rockprincess> ah ok
[11:47] <Apple_Cat> yeah, maybe model number if you have it, or if you're still running windows you could check what kind of mobo you have in there, Piddy
[11:48] <A-mak> I did think of installing the package.. but then I didnt want the gnome stuff and am a bit lazy in going through that package manager
[11:48] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: It's the other way around. I'm on Kubuntu, installing Windows. Gonna dualboot.
[11:48] <rockprincess> you'd only needed to remove the ubuntu-desktop....then i think all gnome stuff would have been gone....afaik
[11:48] <Apple_Cat> ooh so you have kubuntu running ?
[11:49] <A-mak> ahk wish I had of joined this chat on sat :P. Will bother you if I get stuck again rockprincess, thanks for the help!
[11:49] <rockprincess> no worries
[11:49] <A-mak> is gparted on the kubuntu live cd?
[11:50] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: Yes.
[11:50] <rockprincess> i dunno....maybe qtparted is....
[11:50] <A-mak> yeah I've got QTParted thats what I was using last night
[11:50] <Apple_Cat> if you have kubuntu running, Piddy, run "dmidecode -q | less" then paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:50] <rockprincess> did it look like this? http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[11:51] <A-mak> not QTparted
[11:51] <A-mak> I have it up now
[11:51] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: It just says (END)
[11:51] <A-mak> yeah, Drive info device /dev/sda... Status busy.
[11:52] <A-mak> yet /dev/sda is not mounted (according to mtab).. personally I think its kubuntu utilising the swap
[11:52] <Apple_Cat> sorry put sudo in front of it first, Piddy
[11:54] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58590/
[11:54] <A-mak> rockprincess, QTparted reports that /dev/sda3 cannot be deleted because it is mounted.. yet in konsole umount say s/dev/sda3 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[11:54] <rockprincess> A-mak: don't use QTparted! Use gparted instead!
[11:55] <A-mak> is that located on kubuntu live cd?
[11:55] <rockprincess> A-mak: maybe try a reboot?
[11:55] <Apple_Cat> can you try "sudo dmidecode -q" instead, it must have cut off some output, Piddy
[11:56] <rockprincess> A-mak: NO! download gparted from http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ and burn it on a cd...
[11:56] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: Pasting now
[11:57] <A-mak> I only have 1 optical device in my laptop rock :P. I'll just use the alternate install cd
[11:57] <A-mak> sounds alot easier
[11:57] <Piddy> Apple_Cat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58591/
[11:58] <rockprincess> A-mak: downloading the alternate install will take you several hours...because it's a big ISO file..however downloading gparted will take you only a few minutes....
[11:58] <A-mak> I have 15mbit down...
[11:59] <Apple_Cat> Piddy: your mobo is an Evo D510 CMT
[11:59] <A-mak> rockprincess, its going to take me 8min ;) :P. Thanks for trying.
[12:00] <Piddy> Apple_Cat. Ok. Will that be a problem or something?
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> nope,sorry i was just looking up a manual for it or something but it should be fine, you might just have to read what you see in the menu, Piddy
[12:01] <Piddy> Ok, so how do I open the menu?
[12:01] <Apple_Cat> pressing F10 will get you into bios when first booting
[12:01] <Piddy> F8?
[12:01] <Piddy> Ok.
[12:02] <Piddy> Thanks for the help :D
[12:03] <Apple_Cat> np ^.^
[12:03] <Piddy> Ok, cya:D Gonna try and install now:P
[12:03] <Apple_Cat> oki cool
[12:04] <Apple_Cat> just a tip for next time, I'd probably install windows first, then kubuntu over the top of it
[12:04] <Apple_Cat> eek too slow -_-
[12:05] <spiroo> When I use KDE4.0.2, I just get blank/black screen when I login. I have it installed besides KDE3. How do I fix? Nobody answers in kubuntu-kde4.
[12:05] <Eirikeb> kick the computer/throw the monitor out from the nearest available skyscraper!
[12:14] <jussi01> can anyone recomend me a decent, yet simple to learn prgram that I can draw some basic plans for a "box" of sorts. Im thinking cad like, but much simpler
[12:14] <Apple_Cat> inkscape, blender ?
[12:15] <zimon> xfig
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, Kolourpaint / gpaint
[12:15] <Apple_Cat> http://www.blender.org/ , http://www.inkscape.org/
[12:16] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: no. not that simple. I dont just want to draw a box, i want to make a sort of "plan"
[12:16] <Apple_Cat> http://www.xfig.org/ , http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/ , http://www.gnu.org/software/gpaint/
[12:17] <meuhlol> Hi all
[12:17] <meuhlol> I have a little problem, with my External HDD
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask
[12:17] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:18] <meuhlol> When i connect him it prompts me to Open in new window but he doesn't "automount". When I go to media:/ and run a Konsole
[12:18] <meuhlol> i mount him to /media/cdrom
[12:18] <Apple_Cat> jussi01: you could draw the "plan" in inkscape, then import it into blender
[12:18] <meuhlol> but once mounted, I can't acces, i have a error message: You have no permissions to read blah blah blah
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> meuhlol, can you access it if you sudo?
[12:19] <meuhlol> how should i do to mount up my external hdd, cus' others devices, like usb key of 2 giga i acces it without problems
[12:19] <meuhlol> ActionParsnip: i cant only mount it with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom"
[12:20] <meuhlol> after, using "sudo konqueror" i can acces to read /media/cdrom, but i cant copy files into :s
[12:20] <blas> espaniol
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !es | blas
[12:20] <ubotu> blas: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> meuhlol, try making a new mount point and mount it there
[12:21] <meuhlol> ok w8
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> meuhlol, sudo mkdir /mnt/usbhdd (for example)
[12:22] <meuhlol> ActionParsnip: nope i cant acces
[12:22] <meuhlol> i created a new folder on my desktop lol
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> meuhlol, ok what happens when you try to cd into the mount point?
[12:23] <meuhlol> but no way, it says: that I have no rights to read file://blahblah
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> or navigate to it using konqueror
[12:27] <meuhlol> ActionParsnip: I can acces but i can't write on it :/
[12:28] <jussi01> meuhlol: what is it formatted as? ntfs?
[12:28] <meuhlol> jussi01: dunno :/
[12:28] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | meuhlol
[12:28] <ubotu> meuhlol: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:28] <jussi01> meuhlol: did you format it in windows?
[12:29] <meuhlol> jussi01: in fact, this HDD is of my father. He bought him, installed and doesnt formated (it was already preformated) i think is ntfs, cus he use it on windows
[12:29] <jussi01> meuhlol: likely.
[12:32] <meuhlol> will install ntfs-config and try with it :D
[12:32]  * jussi01 crosses fingers for meuhlol 
[12:33]  * meuhlol give a beer to jussi01 =D
[12:37] <meuhlol> jussi01: nope doesnt work :'((((((
[12:37] <meuhlol> but why my other devices like USB Key works perfectly?
[12:38] <jussi01> because they are vfat
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[12:39] <meuhlol> jussi01: yes my HDD extern is an NTFS lol
[12:39] <meuhlol> i reading actually a config for ntfs-3g
[12:40] <jussi01> :)
[12:42] <ali3n51> h3llo
[12:42] <ali3n51> please help me to restore my original themes of login screen
[12:42] <ali3n51> how to restore the original login screen
[12:43] <ali3n51> the kdm can't activate why?
[12:45] <Apple_Cat> sorry, can you give a bit more detail?
[12:46] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am trying to update-initramfs from a chroot jail, bu I keep getting "/proc/cmdline file not found"
[12:46] <rysiek|pl> I am guessing I need to omehow "import" (symlink?) the /proc and /dev filesystems to the chrooted environment
[12:46] <rysiek|pl> what is the best, elegant way to do this?
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> mount them there?
[12:47] <llutz> rysiek|pl: mount -o bind
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> ah
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> smashing, thanks
[12:47] <llutz> like mount --bind /proc /CHROOT/proc
[12:48] <rysiek|pl> aye
[12:48] <rysiek|pl> /dev, /proc, anything else I should remember?
[12:48] <llutz>  not sure, /sys maybe
[12:49] <rysiek|pl> we'll see in a moment :)
[12:50] <rysiek|pl> as a side note, there are some nasty things happening when you install a second *buntu (say, hardy) on a laptop with a *buntu already on
[12:50] <rysiek|pl> *nasty things happening with swap and hibernate
[12:51] <rysiek|pl> as the new install reformats swap partition (used by the first install), UUID changes and hence - hibernate/resume stop working
[12:51] <matt_> does knetworkmanager support static ip using wpa2?
[12:51] <llutz> matt_: afaik NO
[12:52] <matt_> is there one that does?
[12:53] <llutz> matt_: ifupdown + wpa_supplicant
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> matt_: ^^^ precisely
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> darn, I am slow today
[12:57] <rysiek|pl> let's check if the frickin' hibernate got fixed on all 3 kubuntu installs...
[12:58] <llutz> rysiek|pl: resuming takes longer than coldboot here :(
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> no way
[12:59] <rysiek|pl> llutz: does it actually resume? start some app (say, kate), write something in it (and DON'T save to disk!), hibernate, resume
[13:00] <rysiek|pl> llutz: do you get kate back, WITH whatever you have written but not saved to disk?
[13:00] <llutz> rysiek|pl: yeah it hibernates/resumes, just takes looooong time for it
[13:00] <rysiek|pl> llutz: for it might be something goes wrong with resume at some stage and it just starts a normal "coldboot" session
[13:00] <rysiek|pl> oh
[13:00] <rysiek|pl> ok
[13:01] <llutz> and compared to XP-resume... no comment
[13:01] <rysiek|pl> d'oh! darn intel drivers. X frozen again
[13:17] <GrayFox> hey
[13:18] <GrayFox> is there a possibility to integrate my konsole into the control panel?
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> GrayFox: yes, you probably actually could... but not realy easily
[13:21] <matt_> i don't suppose anyone knows what driver to use for lexmark z1420 printer?
[13:21] <GrayFox> okay
[13:21] <GrayFox> then i gonna put that to the end of my task-list
[13:21] <GrayFox> there are a few things, that are still not working
[13:22] <GrayFox> Surround-Sound & Bluetooth-Headset are the most tricky problems
[13:23] <rysiek|pl> GrayFox: have you tried Yakuake? it's not control-panel-integrated, but extremely useful nonetheless
[13:23] <llutz> matt_: look at linuxprinting.org drivers/printer list
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> GrayFox, yakuake is awesome
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> matt_, have you googled any for an answer?
[13:25] <GrayFox> okay, i'll try it out
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> matt_, is it a wireless printer?
[13:26] <GrayFox> anybody who knows about alsa-drivers?
[13:26] <GrayFox> and how to set up a 6-channel-usb-soundcard?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> GrayFox, what usb card do you have?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> awww yeeeeah http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/03/asus-eee-pc-900-hands-on-video.html
[13:37] <matt_> ActionParsnip: yeah wireless, just checked and it seems it's not on linuxprinting.org (paperweight apparently)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> matt_, yeah lexmark are a bit lacking in support
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> matt_, like LOADS!
[13:37] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: awesome..
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim, was waiting for that to happen, just moved the speakers to the hinge. Kubuntu on that bad boy. BOOYA!
[13:38] <^Number1^> hi
[13:38] <fcnguy> what to do when people get jealous of you when you try to exercise and try to stop you in step of the way? they basically want me to have a painful heart attack and die. i already have high cholesterol at age 21 and probably had since 18 or 19...? what to do?
[13:39] <fcnguy> what to do when people get jealous of you when you try to exercise and try to stop you in step of the way( bully you)? they basically want me to have a painful heart attack and die. i already have high cholesterol at age 21 and probably had since 18 or 19...? what to do?
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: oh yeah.... I have so wanted this....
[13:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: 399€ ~ 610 USD... lot of money for that toy
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> oh...610.... wow....
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> morning BluesKaj
[13:46] <llutz> hi BluesKaj
[13:46] <Jucato> !hi | BluesKaj
[13:46] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:46] <Jucato> :D
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Morning , gundam_rx78nt1 , Jucato, llutz  :)
[13:47] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you forgot ubotu
[13:48] <dhq> why do i get this error/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_signal_accumulator_true_handled
[13:48] <Jucato> firefox installed in /usr/lib? O.o
[13:48] <maki_d> hi, whats the difference between kubuntu on cd and kubuntu on dvd ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> mustn't forget ubotu, 'morning ubotu :)
[13:48] <Jucato> maki_d: the DVD has lots more packages available for installation
[13:48] <Jucato> without an internet connection
[13:49] <dhq> Jucato: well its an error
[13:49] <Jucato> I think the DVD also combines both features of a Desktop CD (Live CD) and an Alternate Install CD (text-based installer, can be used as a repository)
[13:49] <dhq> dhq@dhq-laptop:~/glib-2.0.0$ synaptic
[13:49] <dhq> synaptic: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_signal_accumulator_true_handled
[13:50] <Jucato> dhq: might be related to your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630405
[13:51] <Jucato> dhq: by your pwd I'm assuming you are playing around with glib?
[13:51] <dhq> yes
[13:51] <Jucato> that could be the source of your problem :)
[13:52] <dhq> Jucato: how do i know what to remove
[13:52] <Jucato> might want to try asking about the error in #gtk (or is it #gtk+)
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, its also got the major desktop environments on
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, afaik
[13:53] <llutz> Jucato: try "locate firefox-bin" on your system and smile
[13:53] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: huh?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, the instsall DVDs
[13:54] <Jucato> llutz: don't have Firefox installed on my current Kubuntu :D
[13:54] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: ah.. that's generally covered by the "lots more packages" :)
[13:54] <llutz> Jucato: ah ok, but when,  /usr/lib is the place it resides
[13:54] <dhq> llutz: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Jucato, indeed. I call it "bloat"
[13:55] <llutz> dhq: yes, that's default installation path
[13:55] <Jucato> llutz: hm... I have firefox after all, and it's not in /usr/lib/firefox :)
[13:55] <llutz> Jucato: ok, not the repo-one
[13:55] <Jucato> compiled?
[13:55] <Jucato> bah!
[13:56] <Jucato> :P
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> just pull it down from repos
[13:56] <dhq> everything is messsed up
[13:57] <Jucato> definitely....
[13:57] <rignes_> Hello there.  I closed out the battery monitoring icon on the tray of KDE4 and want to get it back.  What command must I run?  Google isn't helping me to much. :(
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> dhq, wassup man?
[13:57] <Jucato> glib is one very essential lib :)
[13:57] <dhq> ActionParsnip: :)
[13:57] <Jucato> rignes_: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> dhq, whats up with your rig?
[13:57] <Jucato> rignes_: but basically just Add Widgets -> Battery Monitor and drag to the panel
[13:58] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: glib-gtk errors. (scroll up)
[13:58] <dhq> if i wanna uninstall from the source what do i use
[13:58] <rignes_> Thanks.  I'll go ask there.  ;)
[13:58] <Jucato> run "make uninstall" from the directory where you ran "make" and "make install"
[13:58] <dhq> make uninstall ???
[13:59] <Jucato> hopefully you still have the build directory in place
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> dhq, ok what do you get from the command - file /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[13:59] <dhq>  /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: symbolic link to `libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1200.0'
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> and is that file there in that folder too?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> dhq, what do you get from ldd firefox (use pastebin)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> dhq, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/symbol-lookup-error-usrliblibgtk-x11.2.0.so.0-undefined-symbol...-434399/
[14:01] <slax> hey
[14:01] <slax> can somebody help me?:D
[14:01] <dhq> ActionParsnip: ldd: ./firefox: not regular file
[14:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> slax, ask away.
[14:02] <Jucato> !somebody | slax
[14:02] <ubotu> slax: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> dhq, just ldd firefox not ./firefox
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !help | slax
[14:02] <ubotu> slax: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> !ask | slax
[14:03] <dhq>  ldd firefox
[14:03] <ubotu> slax: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:03] <Jucato> oh they changed the !somebody factoid :)
[14:03] <Jucato> I think slax got the point :)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> :D
[14:03] <Jucato> slax: ask away.. except if it's about SLAX :)
[14:03] <slax> I can mange to connect my i`pod:(
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> dhq, what is the output?
[14:03] <slax> i got the point
[14:03] <slax> :))
[14:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, you can connect your iPod or you can't?
[14:03] <dhq> ActionParsnip: ldd: ./firefox: No such file or directory
[14:04] <slax> i can`t it will not mount:-s
[14:04] <dhq> dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ ldd firefox
[14:04] <dhq> ldd: ./firefox: No such file or directory
[14:04] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: needs the full path
[14:04] <llutz> ldd $(which firefox)
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> dhq, how about the commadn which firefox
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> cheers llutz
[14:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> are you running kubuntu?  It should detect it as an external drive first.
[14:05] <Jucato> !ipod | slax
[14:05] <llutz> will fail because it is a script, not a binary
[14:05] <ubotu> slax: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[14:05] <slax> yeah i am running kubuntu and when i connect it it dose`n say enithing:-s
[14:05] <dhq> ActionParsnip: well i use firefox as the command
[14:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> what do you get when you type: lsusb?
[14:06] <Jucato> llutz: ldd $(which firefox-bin) then?
[14:06] <dhq> dhq@dhq-laptop:/bin$ firefox /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_signal_accumulator_true_handled
[14:06] <dhq>                                                                                                                      
[14:06] <stdin> !paste > dhq
[14:06] <llutz> ldd /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[14:06] <slax>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[14:06] <slax> Bus 003 Device 018: ID 05ac:1262 Apple Computer, Inc.
[14:06] <slax> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 058f:6377 Alcor Micro Corp.
[14:06] <llutz> Jucato: firefox-bin isn't in $PATH
[14:06] <Jucato> ey stdin!! you're alive :)
[14:06] <slax> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0424:2504 Standard Microsystems Corp.
[14:06] <Jucato> llutz: ah I see
[14:06] <slax> these 3
[14:07] <stdin> Jucato: shush, don't tell anyone ;)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !paste | slax
[14:07] <llutz> dhq: ldd /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[14:07] <dhq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58605/
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> sup stdin
[14:07] <ubotu> slax: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:07] <BluesKaj> dhq, what about locate:firefox ,in the konq addressbar
[14:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hey everybody stdin is alive.
[14:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops, you said don't tell anybody... my bad.
[14:08] <dhq> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58605/
[14:09] <Jucato> gundam_rx78nt1: you didn't tell "anybody". you told "everybody". so it's ok :)
[14:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> slax, did you check your /media directory and see if it was there?  I had that problem and found that I changed the desktop behaviour and when I connected the iPod, the icon wouldn't show on the desktop but it was in the /media directory.
[14:12] <slax> in the media driver
[14:13] <slax> it seemes i have a folder called i-pod
[14:13] <slax> but it`s just a  simple folder
[14:18] <slax> fff:(
[14:21] <MilitantPotato> Where can I see what was changed in the new KDE4 update?
[14:21] <rignes> I was in here before asking about a battery monitor in the try on KDE.  I went to kubuntu-kde4 and then realized I'm still running 3.
[14:21] <rignes> WQould this be the place I can ask about kde 3.x things?
[14:21] <dhq> ActionParsnip: any clues
[14:22] <rignes> Wait, I retract that....
[14:22] <rignes> Let me getmy act togeter before I speak again and make my self look more stupid than I already do...
[14:23] <Jucato> MilitantPotato: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php (see the link to the changelog for specifics)
[14:23] <ksal> hi
[14:23] <MichaleR> I'm migrating a system to new hardware and want to duplicate the installed set of packages.  How does one get a list of packages that can be directly fed into dpkg or apt-get?
[14:23] <MichaleR> or similar
[14:24] <MilitantPotato> Jucato: thanks, must not be awake yet
[14:24] <Jucato> !clone | MichaleR
[14:24] <ubotu> MichaleR: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[14:24] <muibe> hi, i tried to figure out what kded does in practice but didn't find anything useful.. it works very oddly - the problem began after I'd mounted a new external drive to my machine
[14:24] <MichaleR> That's what I wasn't finding.  Thank you
[14:25] <muibe> so can someone explain what i lose if kill it with argument " -s 9 "
[14:25] <muibe> ?
[14:25] <ksal> i hi
[14:25] <Jucato> muibe: don't
[14:25] <muibe> why?
[14:25] <ksal> does anybody here use kde4?
[14:25] <Jucato> ksal: those in #kubuntu-kde4 do
[14:26] <muibe> Jucato: why not?
[14:26] <Jucato> muibe: it's the kde daemon/process that handles most media
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ksal, try KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:26] <muibe> Jucato: any advice how to solve the problem?
[14:26] <muibe> well, i tried to google already
[14:27] <Jucato> what's the problem first? "it works very oddly" is a bit vague
[14:27] <BluesKaj> oops ,I'm a bit slow this morn, only on my 2nd coffee :)
[14:27] <muibe> well. it uses 95-99% of CPU
[14:27] <Jucato> muibe: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/userguide/background-processes.html
[14:28] <Jucato> it doesn't only handle media, but it's sort of one of the main important KDE daemons
[14:28] <Jucato> not sure what to do about the CPU usage though..but it sounds familiar. try asking around in #kde too
[14:28] <savetheWorld> Hi, trying to understand the apt command tools - how do i check to see is I have already installed a given package?  (producing a list is fine too, i can has grep :-) )
[14:28] <savetheWorld> s/is/ if I/
[14:28] <llutz> savetheWorld: apt-cache policy packagename
[14:28] <noaXess> hi all
[14:29] <dhq> Jucato: ??
[14:29] <savetheWorld> llutz: interesting, what does the policy keyword mean in that context?
[14:29]  * savetheWorld runs off to the man page
[14:29] <Jucato> dhq: ?
[14:29] <noaXess> if i want mount external dir with sshfs then i get fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> savetheWorld, could just try to install it :)
[14:29] <dhq> Jucato: do you have anyclue what i can do to fix my system
[14:29] <muibe> Jucato: many thanks for help my friend
[14:30] <noaXess> i k now i need to run it with sudo that it work.. but i want run it with a normal useraccount.
[14:30] <muibe> Jucato: I guess it isn't that important at all
[14:30] <Jucato> dhq:  you can try uninstalling your custom glib and reinstalling the original glib from the repos
[14:30] <savetheWorld> ActionParsnip: actually that would not fit the current situation since I am attempting to diagnose a library problem, not cover it up.
[14:30] <llutz> noaXess: are you member of group "fuse"?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, only sudo can mount
[14:30] <Jucato> muibe: it doesn't end the world if that's what you mean :)
[14:30] <noaXess> llutz: hm.. wait..
[14:31] <dhq> Jucato: how do i know which file glib installed
[14:31] <Jucato> savetheWorld: only way I can think of is "dpkg -l | grep <name>"
[14:31] <muibe> well, the update can be done manually - console is my favorite environment but there's no ncurses version of amaroK - yet :D
[14:32] <noaXess> llutz: no, i'm not member pf fuse.. but now i am :) but need to relogin..
[14:32] <llutz> Jucato: grep not needed
[14:32] <muibe> *the KSycoca update
[14:32] <Jucato> llutz: hm?
[14:32] <llutz> Jucato: try " dpkg -l  name"
[14:32] <Jucato> oh right
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> savetheWorld, or you could use which <app name>
[14:33] <Jucato> muibe: are you knowledgeable about all the times that kbuildsycoca is triggered automatically behind the scenes?
[14:33] <dhq> Jucato: when i uses repos this is what i get update-mime-database: symbol lookup error: update-mime-database: undefined symbol: g_log_set_default_handler
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> dhq, is that with sudo apt-get update
[14:34] <muibe> Jucato: well.hmm..nope :D
[14:34] <dhq> ActionParsnip: even if i want to remove stuff i get that error
[14:34] <savetheWorld> ActionParsnip: build-essentials installs many many things, a number of which are not executables so they would not show up in a "which" command, and you would have to check for each file and its version by hand, However, build-dep looks like it may solve my issues for me.
[14:35] <Jucato> build-dep will install the packages necessary to compile the specified package
[14:35] <muibe> i think killing of the process with -s 9 is a stopgap solution
[14:36] <muibe> until i find out what to do or someone comes up with a solutions that works
[14:36] <savetheWorld> HMm- looks like I made one essential error - I installed the xchat source from the xchat web site.  Looks like I should install the version of the xchat soure that comrs from the Kubuntu/ubuntu repositories?
[14:36] <savetheWorld> *source *comes
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[14:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:37] <Jucato> let's go back to the real problem. what is it?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[14:37] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:37] <Jucato> savetheWorld: what's the *real* problem?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> dhq, ^ try that
[14:37] <savetheWorld> Jucato: I am running xchat 2.6.6 on Kubuntu  ( Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ) and i am attempting to build xchat 2.6.6 from source.  whe running configure I got the error "configure:26206: error: "Cannot find glib".   Since this system is a vanilla Kubuntu install, I am wondering why it cant find glib.  Any suggestions for what to do about this?  for example would apt-get install glib be an appropriate resolution?
[14:37] <joseph> what would be the most appropriate program to use to create a historical timeline? dia? kivio? open office?
[14:38] <savetheWorld> Jucato: for production reasons I cant move to the latest.
[14:39] <Jucato> savetheWorld: either of two things: it can't find the correct version of glib or you don't have glib headers and development files installed
[14:39] <savetheWorld> Whats the general rule for asking for the sources of a package using apt-get?   apt-get install <package name>-source?
[14:39] <Jucato> the glib package that ends with -dev (not sure which one though)
[14:39] <Jucato> apt-get source <package>
[14:39] <Jucato> don't use sudo when getting source code using apt
[14:40] <savetheWorld> Jucato: cool.  That is extremely helpful.
[14:40] <Jucato> sudo apt-get build-dep <package> installs the packages necessary *to compile* the package from source, but only as far as the Ubuntu package and version is concerned
[14:40] <savetheWorld> Wont help with teh glib problem?
[14:41] <savetheWorld> *the
[14:41] <Jucato> depends on xchat's requirement
[14:41] <Jucato> but it could give you a head start
[14:41] <savetheWorld> I'll tias
[14:41] <savetheWorld> thank you
[14:41] <ksal> does anybody here use kde4?
[14:41] <ksal> i have a problem with it.
[14:41] <Jucato> ksal: didn't we point you to #kubuntu-kde4 already?
[14:41] <ksal> ah, maybe
[14:42] <Jucato> [22:23] <ksal> does anybody here use kde4?
[14:42] <Jucato> [22:23] <Jucato> ksal: those in #kubuntu-kde4 do
[14:42] <savetheWorld> ksal: Try flowers?
[14:42] <ksal> i'm sorry, i was gone for a while, and i didn't see :)
[14:42] <savetheWorld> (Kidding)
[14:42] <ksal> thanks
[14:42] <ksal> :)
[14:45] <maki_d_> what start kubuntu in safe mode and the other options mean?
[14:48] <dhq> how do i remove the gtk and glibc and recompile it again
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> dhq, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install <app>
[14:49] <Jucato> hm.. the problem is probably due to compiling glib on your own... maybe.. not sure
[14:50] <dhq> Jucato: i need to know how to fix it :(
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> dhq, run the command I stated above (but replace <app> with whatever you want)
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> dhq, it will redownload and reinstall the app
[14:51] <savetheWorld> Well - 14 packages upgraded and 49 new ones installed - yep - i was missing some stuff. :-)   Thanks for all your help folks!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> savetheWorld, keep up with your updates dude. they solve a lot
[14:52] <savetheWorld> ActionParsnip: These were all in the build-dep area
[14:53] <savetheWorld> not operations
[14:54] <dhq> ActionParsnip: well it doesnt work
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dhq, same message?
[14:55] <dhq> Jucato: whichversion of glib does the gutsy use
[14:56] <dhq> ActionParsnip: i dont seem to be able to install anything or remove .......plus firefox and synaptics dont work
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> hmmmmm
[14:57] <Jucato> dhq: libglib2.0-
[14:58] <Jucato> libglib2.0-0 (the Ubuntu version is 2.15.5-0ubuntu1)
[14:58] <dhq> Jucato: how do i remove everything related to glibc
[14:58] <llutz> on gutsy? it's "Version: 2.14.1-1ubuntu1" here
[14:58] <Jucato> oh sorry, I'm on hardy :/
[14:58]  * Jucato forgets
[14:59] <Jucato> dhq: er.. so many things are related to glib it's not funny :)
[15:01] <dhq> Jucato: and what gtk do i need
[15:01] <Jucato> libgtk2.0-0
[15:02] <savetheWorld> Jucato: "configure complete, now type 'make' and pray" <<-- How cheerful!  :-)
[15:02] <Jucato> hahaha! :)
[15:02] <Jucato> and who says geeks don't have humor? :D
[15:02] <Pici> who says that?
[15:03] <savetheWorld> Oh we do, just no one else understands it... :-D
[15:03] <dhq> Jucato: who say that same the name and he's dead
[15:03]  * Jucato points at.. um.. hm... (looks for someone who can't kick back)
[15:06] <dhq> Jucato: i get this error dependency not satifiable
[15:06] <Jucato> :/
[15:06] <Jucato> dhq: I don't know what else to tell you
[15:06] <Jucato> try finding out what it's looking for, which dependency is not satisfied
[15:07] <Jucato> (and btw, what command is giving you that?)
[15:07] <MilitantPotato> I installed a second soundcard, Kubuntu is now using it for playback, how do I choose which soundcard is used for playback?  I'm using ALSA.
[15:10] <postbybios> Hi, I have Kubuntu 7.10 and the icons flicker in Dolphin file manager.
[15:10] <spiroo> I wondering, is it possible to autolaunch numlock on, when computer starts? I know you can when KDE starts, but I want it on when I should login. It is quite annoying in matter of fact.
[15:11] <Jucato> !numlock
[15:11] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[15:11] <Jucato> I think there might be something there ^^^
[15:11] <Jucato> (but maybe only when X starts?)
[15:11] <magical> hi, anybody know why flash makes konqueror run hideously slowly yet it works fine in every other browser (opera, firefox etc)?
[15:11] <postbybios> anyone knows how to fix this?
[15:12] <bubba> hello i´ve installe kubuntu yesterday, i have a problem with adept manager...it tells me another process is using the packaging syster
[15:12] <bubba> and it close
[15:12] <MilitantPotato> spiroo: is numlock on during POST and before grub loads linux?
[15:12] <spiroo> Jucato, thanks :)
[15:12] <dhq> bubba: kill it
[15:12] <spiroo> MilitantPotato: I do not think so.
[15:12] <dhq> bubba: sudo killall -9 adept_  and then press tab
[15:12] <spiroo> Windows enable numlock on startup, thats for sure :D
[15:12] <bubba> from system?
[15:13] <MilitantPotato> spiroo: in bios there's an option to enable numlock at boot for most PC
[15:13] <MilitantPotato> PC's
[15:13] <Jucato> Linux is not Windows :)
[15:13] <bubba> ok dhq
[15:13] <dhq> bubba: type that in konsole
[15:13] <spiroo> Allright, but there is no setting in KDE/Kubuntu?
[15:13] <Jucato> !aptfix | bubba
[15:13] <ubotu> bubba: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:13] <MilitantPotato> spiroo: from that link that was posted, there's a way also
[15:13] <MilitantPotato> spiroo: just giving you another option to try.
[15:14] <Jucato> spiroo: there is a setting for KDE, but not for X in general (you have to follow the link)
[15:14] <bubba> ok ubotu
[15:14] <spiroo> yes, I am reading.
[15:14] <dhq> bubba: ubotu is a bot
[15:14] <bubba> ohhhh....hahaha i didnt know
[15:16]  * dhq just realises so many applications use gtk
[15:16] <MilitantPotato> What's the best way to choose between multiple soundcards for playback in KDE?
[15:16] <MilitantPotato> By best, I mean simplest :)
[15:17] <maki_d_> MilitantPotato:  KDE4 willl provide phonon, in KDE3 i think you need to use pulse audio
[15:18] <MilitantPotato> maki_d_: to switch from one sound card for playback to another?
[15:19] <MilitantPotato> I don't use both at the same time, one is used once in a blue moon for recording
[15:19] <brewmaster> i'm having trouble connecting to my local apache webserver from the internet
[15:19] <brewmaster> not sure what's wrong, i have my router forwarding port 80 to the proper machine...
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: KDE4 rocks at that....
[15:19] <maki_d_> MilitantPotato: yes pulseaudio and phonon manipulate the stream in that way
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: but in kde3,i'm not sure
[15:19] <brewmaster> is there any setting i'm missing on the server machine to allow connections on port 80?
[15:20] <brewmaster> a telnet IP_ADDRESS 80 yields "no route to host"
[15:20] <MilitantPotato> ok, thanks :)
[15:20] <brewmaster> wait, now it's "connection timed out"
[15:20] <bubba> i still have the same problem...i cant kill adpt manager
[15:21] <Jucato> bubba: you followed the commands ubotu gave you?
[15:21] <bubba> one second
[15:29] <noaXess> llutz: now it work with sshfs :) thanks
[15:30] <noaXess> the next.. :).. how to autocreate the mountpoints i need/use?
[15:30] <bubba> ok i did it right,,,now it gives me choices install the package maintainrs version....kepp your currently-installed version
[15:30] <bubba> show the differences between...background this process
[15:31] <Jucato> bubba: it probably means that Adept was trying to install something when it crashed, and now it's picking up where it left
[15:31] <Jucato> the default answer is usually fine
[15:31] <bubba> i understand jucato
[15:31] <bubba> ok
[15:34]  * Jucato hands genii a kaffinated kup
[15:34] <bubba> lol
[15:34] <genii> Jucato: Ah, thanks :) Need some coffee today
[15:34] <Jucato> :D
[15:35]  * genii sips contentedly
[15:35] <genii> Any pending questions ?
[15:37] <genii> Jucato: Has it been this quiet??
[15:38] <Jucato> nope
[15:38] <Jucato> just when you came in :)
[15:38] <genii> Weird then
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !flac
[15:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:42] <ubuntu_> my installation of kubuntui 7.10 is IDLE on "de spiegelserver wordt nagelopen"
[15:45] <ubuntu_> nevermind, i'll install sidux
[15:53] <anon32> um, running "bc" and entering "1 / 2" returns "0"
[15:53] <anon32> why?
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> anon32: try "1.0 / 2.0"
[15:55] <anon32> hmm, is there a way to force it to return a floating point result then?
[15:56] <anon32> and 1.0/2.0 == 0
[15:56] <genii> anon32: The default value of scale is 0 meaning results get truncated
[15:56] <anon32> genii, in English please
[15:57] <havenless> i tried installing kubuntu... it crashed while updating... adept won't even start now. and the start menu thing is all broke too
[15:57] <ifroog_> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[15:57] <havenless> does it do that stuff often? ...
[15:57] <ubotu> File libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 found in libgtk2.0-0
[15:59] <genii> anon32: scale 0 = no decimals scale 1= 1 decimal scale 2 = 2 decimals    etc
[15:59] <anon32> genii, ok, and how do I change it?
[15:59] <nico33410> Helle
[15:59] <nico33410> Hello
[16:00] <vamsi> Hi I have a problem with arts. Can somebody please help me
[16:01] <anon32> vamsi, it would depend highly on what kind of problem. But since we don't know, the obvious answer is "no".
[16:01] <MilitantPotato> Why's bug day called hug day?
[16:01] <vamsi> anon32: I was listening to online radio using realplayer and I stopped it to watch somem flash video
[16:02] <vamsi> after i finished flash video, realplayer does not give any sound
[16:02] <vamsi> i logged off and logged back in and saw a message that artsd crashed or something like that
[16:02] <anon32> oh, one of those kind of issues. I get them too, they always seemed to go away eventually though.
[16:03] <anon32> unless you're using OSS for some reason. Then you want to kill every sound app you have running.
[16:03] <vamsi> i got this error earlier too; i restarted the computer and everything was fine
[16:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> my sound won't work over normal laptop speaker.. if i plugin a headset it work? any idea?
[16:03] <ForgeAus> hmmm nice andLinux back up and running
[16:03] <ForgeAus> ok now how to use Xephyr?
[16:03] <ForgeAus> (so I might be able to get myself a desktop in AndLinux! lol
[16:03] <vamsi> noaXess: I am using speakers and I tried with headphones too; nothing works
[16:03] <vamsi> interestingly, if I listen to the same radio in amarok; sound is okay
[16:03] <ForgeAus> (ie an x-server in a window :) hehe)
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: ook at some of the earilier kubuntu KDE4 release announcements
[16:04] <noaXess_kubuntu> vamsi: even in amarok happends the same
[16:04] <genii> back
[16:04] <ForgeAus> nosred you got an url?
[16:04] <noaXess_kubuntu> no sound over speaker.. only headset
[16:05] <genii> anon32: eg: scale=1    will give 1 decimal place. then the equation.
[16:05] <anon32> hrmmz
[16:05] <anon32> genii, it works! You're a genius!
[16:05] <vamsi> noaXess: i am using the same jack for both speakers and headphones - my comp has no front side headphone jacks. so that might be the issue
[16:05] <genii> anon32: I have moments of lucidity
[16:06] <ForgeAus> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main kdelibs4-dev 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu3.2
[16:06] <ForgeAus> why that?
[16:06] <vamsi> anyone know which output plugin realplayer uses? i kind of guessed that it is arts because I saw this error
[16:06] <ForgeAus> not found :(
[16:07] <vamsi> and can somebody please tell me how to restart artsd? I tried /etc/init.d/artsd but artsd is not present in /init.d
[16:07] <noaXess_kubuntu> vamsi: i work on a notebook.. notepad..
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[16:08] <vamsi> noaXess: sorry - you mentioned that before i did not notice. anyway, i cannot be of much help to you - i am myself a newbie to linux
[16:08] <noaXess_kubuntu> vamsi: and need the integrated speaker...
[16:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> are ther some console tools to test the sound setup!
[16:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> !sound
[16:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:09] <ForgeAus> thanx nosred
[16:16] <RedCyber> hi there
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> hi RedCyber
[16:17] <RedCyber> i have installed kubuntu and started the update service
[16:17] <ForgeAus> hmm getting lotsa font errors
[16:18] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: don't worry about them
[16:18] <RedCyber> and it tried to load a new version
[16:18] <RedCyber> and it failed
[16:19] <ForgeAus> um one was a fatal error, couldn't find 'fixed'
[16:19] <nosrednaekim> RedCyber: new version of kubuntu? or of a package.
[16:19] <ForgeAus> Fatal server error:
[16:19] <ForgeAus> could not open default font 'fixed'
[16:20] <RedCyber> there is something writen: something like abourt
[16:20] <RedCyber> first it installed the package and then it updated kubuntu
[16:20] <RedCyber> and than it hangs
[16:21] <ForgeAus> ahh had to update my packagelist thats why they weren't found wrong versions
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> RedCyber: well, you can kill it if its been hanging for over 15 minutes
[16:21] <anon32> hey cool, "screen" is awesome
[16:21] <ForgeAus> hehe yay adpet for andLinux... hmmm the Xephyr thing will not be so easy tho :)
[16:21] <ForgeAus> yeah anon :)
[16:21] <RedCyber> i restarted my system
[16:22] <ForgeAus> cept I forgot how to use it
[16:22] <ForgeAus> reminds me of the old ytalk days :)
[16:22] <anon32> hehe, silly keybinds
[16:22] <RedCyber> but the problem was not solved
[16:22] <ForgeAus> hmm I must get krusader in this! thats goina be awesome!
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> RedCyber: whats wrong then?
[16:24] <RedCyber> i typed apt-get upgrade and it answered that some package are hanging
[16:24] <ForgeAus> hanging? hmmm thats different
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> RedCyber: run "sudo apt-get update" first....
[16:25] <ForgeAus> klibs 4 is big
[16:25] <ForgeAus> just have to wait I guess
[16:25] <RedCyber> then i typed dpkg --configure -a
[16:25] <RedCyber> and it runs
[16:25] <RedCyber> but some packags are missing
[16:26] <RedCyber> i did that before
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> RedCyber: could you pastebin the exact error?
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[16:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:26] <RedCyber> last i typed dpkg --audit
[16:27] <RedCyber> and here is the problem
[16:27] <RedCyber> root@kubuntu:~# dpkg -C | --audit
[16:28] <RedCyber> bash: --audit: command not found
[16:28] <RedCyber> root@kubuntu:~# dpkg -C
[16:28] <RedCyber> Die folgenden Pakete wurden entpackt, aber noch nicht konfiguriert.
[16:28] <RedCyber> Sie müssen mit dpkg --configure oder dem Konfigurations-Menüeintrag in
[16:28] <RedCyber> dselect konfiguriert werden, damit sie ordnungsgemäß funktionieren:
[16:28] <RedCyber>  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on x8
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> uhhhh we don't speak german here
[16:28] <RedCyber> Die folgenden Pakete sind nur halb konfiguriert, wahrscheinlich durch
[16:28] <RedCyber> Probleme während der ersten Konfiguration. Die Konfiguration sollte mit
[16:28] <RedCyber> dpkg --configure <Paket> oder mit dem Konfigurations-Menüeintrag in
[16:28] <RedCyber> dselect erneut versucht werden:
[16:28] <RedCyber>  initramfs-tools      tools for generating an initramfs
[16:28] <RedCyber>  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic Linux kernel image for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86
[16:28] <RedCyber> root@kubuntu:~# dpkg --configure initramfs-tools
[16:28] <RedCyber> Richte initramfs-tools ein (0.85eubuntu20) ...
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[16:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> !de
[16:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:28] <RedCyber> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[16:28] <RedCyber> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[16:28] <RedCyber> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:28] <RedCyber> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[16:28] <RedCyber> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:28] <RedCyber> dpkg: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück
[16:28] <genii> please, boot
[16:29] <genii> trappist: Thanks so very much
[16:29] <trappist> RedCyber: please don't paste here.
[16:30] <Jucato> !flood | RedCyber (again)
[16:30] <ubotu> RedCyber (again): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:30] <RedCyber> where is the german connection??
[16:30] <nosrednaekim> !de
[16:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:32] <s-h-a-k-a> Hi could somebody help me
[16:32] <radeson> deutsch?
[16:32] <s-h-a-k-a> I just installed kubuntu
[16:32] <s-h-a-k-a> and updated it
[16:32] <s-h-a-k-a> but now I'm getting Error 15 on bootup
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> sharkk: with every kernel?
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> s-h-a-k-a: ^^
[16:33] <s-h-a-k-a> it booted up fine before the update
[16:33] <s-h-a-k-a> but when I was updating it, I kept on getting errors
[16:33] <s-h-a-k-a> it would allow me to continue updating so I tried rebooting
[16:33] <s-h-a-k-a> wouldn't*
[16:34] <nosrednaekim> were those erros about initramfs?
[16:34] <s-h-a-k-a> what do you mean?
[16:34] <s-h-a-k-a> didn't say anything but
[16:34] <ForgeAus> what package is default font 'fixed' in?
[16:34] <s-h-a-k-a> error
[16:35] <s-h-a-k-a> didn't really read the description
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> s-h-a-k-a: so it doesn't even load grub?
[16:35] <genii> s-h-a-k-a: Are you now using the livecd on that same machine?
[16:35] <s-h-a-k-a> it loads grub
[16:36] <s-h-a-k-a> genii: No, not after I rebooted
[16:36] <s-h-a-k-a> I took it out when the installation said I must
[16:37] <genii> nosrednaekim: Likely it was rebooted before the new kernel image map etc was made.
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> s-h-a-k-a: so what are you running right now?
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> genii: yeah....
[16:37] <s-h-a-k-a> I'm on my 1st pc
[16:37] <s-h-a-k-a> the other pc is more like a test pc
[16:37] <s-h-a-k-a> but its running next to me
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> genii: how do you fix that? chroot and apt-get upgrade?
[16:39] <radeson> hi, could somebody help me? when i starting krfb on kubuntu (7.10) i get an dialog that says configuration won't be saved. Configuration file /home/radeson/.kde/share/config/krfbrc is not to write
[16:39] <s-h-a-k-a> bah I need to go afk
[16:40] <s-h-a-k-a> will be back later
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> radeson: try "sudo chown username.username /home/radeson/.kde/share/config/krfbrc"
[16:40] <radeson> thx i'll try it
[16:41] <radeson> nosrednaekim: thanx very much, it works
[16:43] <intelkiey> $( sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` $HOME )
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> radeson: in the future, use kdesudo with graphical apps....
[16:43] <genii> nosrednaekim: How to fix is boot to livecd on same box, make sure network connectivity, then chroot and redo an apt-get install <linux kernel image name here>   type deal
[16:43] <intelkiey> $( sudo chown -R `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` $HOME )
[16:43] <intelkiey> sorry.  needs recursion
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> genii: ok
[16:44]  * genii hands intelkiey a coffee
[16:44] <frank_> intelkiey: what does that do? give ownership of every file in home directory to the user?
[16:44] <intelkiey> genii  tov
[16:44] <Jucato> hm... new spelling?
[16:44] <intelkiey> genii what did he do delete the kernel ?
[16:44] <genii> intelkiey: He rebooted during an upgrade
[16:45] <intelkiey> frank_ yes.
[16:45] <Marcinator> http://nakedfunny.com/en/video/movie-495.html
[16:45] <pip> jessica, hi
[16:46] <intelkiey> ah   that's a   " no , no "
[16:48] <spiroo> how do I play up quicktime files?
[16:49] <MilitantPotato> !codecs
[16:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:49] <MilitantPotato> spiroo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:50] <ForgeAus> hey intelikey :)
[16:51] <intelkiey> ForgeAus
[16:53] <karthikp> Has anyone seen the gOS website? http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html
[16:53] <karthikp> The Kubuntu website should look as cool as that.
[16:54]  * karthikp is smitten by the gOS website...
[16:54]  * intelkiey smites karthikp 
[16:55] <MilitantPotato> looks super clean and simple
[16:55]  * karthikp wakes up from day dream and gets back to work.
[16:55] <ForgeAus> yeah how do I get those apps on my taskbar?
[16:55] <ForgeAus> erm launcher/ kmenu/whatever
[16:55] <intelkiey> kicker
[16:55] <Jucato> gOS uses Enlightenment
[16:56] <bubba> iḿ unable to play podcast in amarok coz of demug problem
[16:56] <intelkiey> e17 ?
[16:56] <Jucato> yes
[16:56] <holx> hi
[16:56] <karthikp> Yeah.
[16:56] <ForgeAus> hey jucato :)
[16:56] <karthikp> But I was smitten (*ducks*) by how neat and clean the website is.
[16:56] <holx> I have a problem with my kubuntu tower, it won't shut down normally, olny, when the power button is used
[16:57] <Jucato> hey ForgeAus
[16:57] <ForgeAus> yeah the website is nice
[16:57] <Jucato> karthikp: if you can help with the Kubuntu website, please do
[16:57] <ForgeAus> kde's isn't bad, its just not as interactive and polished as gos'
[16:57] <ForgeAus> but kde's is also much more informative
[16:57] <Jucato> "*should* be like that" is hardly possible if there are no people to do it
[16:57] <karthikp> I never learnt web design beyond html and a bit of css. :(
[16:57] <Jucato> yeah... KDE isn't as unstable as E17 either... baaad KDE
[16:57] <bubba> do i need a certain plugin for amarok to play podcasts
[16:58] <Jucato> bubba: what format do the podcasts come in? mp3's? wma's?
[16:58] <ForgeAus> lol Jucato :)
[16:58] <holx> I could live with that, but that's not my tower, that's for an office:(
[16:58]  * karthikp wishes he knew more web design...
[16:58] <bubba> mp3...jucato
[16:58] <ForgeAus> I thought you said e17 was a schizophrenic dm or something
[16:59] <ForgeAus> erm wm .. I'll get it right one day lol
[16:59] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yeah.. KDE isn't schizo.. baad KDE...
[16:59] <bubba> i;ve just installed fluendo but didnt work
[16:59] <Jucato> bubba: fluendo doesn't work with Xine (which is what amarok uses)
[16:59] <Jucato> bubba: install libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:59] <Jucato> (or kubuntu-restricted-extras to get a whole bunch of other codecs and plugins)
[16:59]  * intelkiey votes for "blackbox" for the win!
[16:59] <ForgeAus> hehe I like fluxbox :)
[17:00] <bubba> ty jucato
[17:00] <holx> nobody knows? Please? I have to get it done in a few hrs, I have googled like a maniac, no answer:(
[17:00] <Jucato> sorry no idea about the shutdown issue :(
[17:02] <intelkiey> holx normally that would be considered a "kernel" issue    that does assume that the shutdown process begins and ends with the power still on and some text on the monitor saying now powering down
[17:02] <holx> going to see, what it says, brb
[17:03] <intelkiey> holx normally that can be confirmed with the reboot option which will work.
[17:03] <KR-data> how do I make xine use alsa in stead of oss, it seems to simply ignore that I set the sound system to be alsa
[17:03] <Jucato> xine and alsa are not the same thing
[17:04] <Jucato> er nvm
[17:04] <Jucato> sorry lol!
[17:04]  * Jucato headdesks
[17:04] <intelkiey> :)
[17:04] <holx> intelkiey, how exactly? Not really 100% at home with linux yet
[17:04] <KR-data> Jucato, lol :) been up for a long time? :p
[17:04] <Jucato> it's 01:00... gimme a kup of koffee genii!!
[17:04] <intelkiey> don't beet your self up Jucato,  it's just your turn    that's all.
[17:04] <Jucato> I'm not a vegetable intelkiey :D
[17:05] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beet
[17:05] <KR-data> hehe well your not the first to make a mistake like that :p
[17:06]  * intelkiey replaces the coconut on Jucato's sholders with a pumpkin
[17:06] <Jucato> KR-data: if for Amarok, you can set it in Settings -> Configure AMarok -> Engine
[17:06] <KR-data> Jucato, I don't like Amarok, so I just use xine-ui, nice and simple :p but it is set to use alsa, but it ignores it, but well I'll give amarok a chance :)
[17:07] <holx> intelkiey, it won't say anything, just the kubuntu loading bar and then monitor shuts down
[17:07] <intelkiey> holx monitor goes off but box does not ?
[17:08] <holx> for a few seconds, then starts again
[17:09] <intelkiey> holx shutdown is sending the wrong signal    try " sudo init 0 "  and see if it does the same thing
[17:10] <holx> k, hold on
[17:12] <holx> intelkiey, still does the same thing, could it be from hardware?
[17:12] <emilsedgh_> !mp3 > bahram
[17:13] <intelkiey> holx from hardware ?
[17:13] <holx> the shutdown thing
[17:13] <holx> maybe it won't power off properly
[17:14] <intelkiey> holx it's a kernel issue.    not sending the proper code to the bios for power off.     you might  mention it in #kernel   and see what they say.
[17:14] <holx> ok
[17:14] <holx> thank you for your time
[17:15] <intelkiey> there may be a know issue with your kernel version (patch may exist)
[17:15] <intelkiey> there may be a known issue with your hardware also.
[17:16] <intelkiey> i sujest exploring the former before the later
[17:17] <intelkiey> code monkeys are known for accepting the "your hardware is faulty" option if presented to them....
[17:17] <holx> heh, ok
[17:17] <holx> thank you again.
[17:17] <intelkiey> any time.
[17:19] <ForgeAus> hehehe I have to agree there intelikey
[17:22] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I want to know if the edubuntu cd comes along with the kernel development headers. I need them to compile my modem driver.
[17:22] <Muhammad_Saad> I asked my question at #edubuntu but do not get an answer
[17:24] <intelkiey> Muhammad_Saad i can't answer that either.   but, i'm pretty sure that the dvd does have them.
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Muhammad_Saad: yes, they are on the CD,but not installed by deafult
[17:25] <intelkiey> nosrednaekim to the rescue
[17:26] <Muhammad_Saad> which package?
[17:26] <Muhammad_Saad> kernel-devel?
[17:27] <intelkiey> linux-headers ?
[17:27] <Muhammad_Saad> let me check
[17:28] <Muhammad_Saad> In the directory /pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22 on the CD I see some packages starting with linux-headers-x.y.z.deb. Are these what I need?
[17:28] <intelkiey> !info linux-kernel-devel
[17:28] <ubotu> linux-kernel-devel (source: linux-source-2.6.22): Linux kernel hacking dependencies. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22-14.52 (gutsy), package size 46 kB, installed size 76 kB
[17:29] <intelkiey> !info linux-headers
[17:29] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in gutsy
[17:29] <intelkiey> Muhammad_Saad i think so
[17:29] <intelkiey> Muhammad_Saad also see about build-essential
[17:29] <intelkiey> !build-essential
[17:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:31] <intelkiey> !b-e
[17:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:31]  * intelkiey lag explodes to 62seconds
[17:32] <Muhammad_Saad> I want to make everything sure before I install edubuntu because if I cannot install my modem's driver, I shall not be able to connect to the internet to download kernel headers.
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> Muhammad_Saad: they are on there, trust me.
[17:32] <llutz> meta-package ist named "linux-headers-generic"
[17:34] <intelkiey> M$ EULA==Most Seem to Enable Usage by a Lying Answer.
[17:36] <Muhammad_Saad> Thanks for all your help.
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> intelkiey: whats up with your nick?
[17:42] <ubuntu_> HELLO
[17:44] <intelkiey> nosrednaekim ?    why what colour is it ?
[17:44] <DanglyBits> is there a way to install kde 4.0.2 in gnome hardy?
[17:45] <frank_> !kde4
[17:45] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:45] <intelkiey> or do you mean the spelling ?
[17:45] <intelkiey> :)
[17:46] <frank_> DanglyBits: install kde4-core I think
[17:48] <bubba> jucato i can listen my podcasts now :)
[17:48] <Jucato> bubba: great! :)
[17:48] <bubba> ty
[17:48] <bubba> i'm trying to connect my mp3 player now
[17:49] <bubba> i see in the mounting section...read only,,,quiet,,,,synchronous,,,,access time update
[17:50] <bubba> do u know what should i do,,,jucato
[17:50] <Jucato> um... no?
[17:50] <bubba> ok
[17:51] <Chesherr_Cat> what exactly does r5u870: disagrees about version of symbol videobuf_streamoff mean in dmesg
[17:51] <Chesherr_Cat> im trying to recompile my webcam driver because it has decided to stop working
[17:51] <intekliey> use more commas ?
[17:52] <Chesherr_Cat> FATAL: Error inserting r5u870 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/r5u870.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[17:53] <Chesherr_Cat> and here is the pastebin for my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/930531
[17:53] <intekliey> sorry that was @ /dev/null   my badk.
[18:03] <sigma_1234> where can i get a list of all available qt applications?
[18:04] <Jucato> sigma_1234: http://www.qt-apps.org and http://www.kde-apps.org
[18:06] <intkeliey> apt-cache search qt    will also produce a list of sorts
[18:08] <matthew_> what package gives the svn command line client?
[18:09] <frank_> matthew_: subversion
[18:10] <matthew_> wow.. ok, i didn't think anybody every actually spelled it out.
[18:10] <frank_> matthew_: hehe
[18:20] <babeck> Does anyone know how to get transparency to work in konsole 4.0.2?
[18:26] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents I am trying to install a deb package.  The package installer says that a dependency is not satisfiable.  It then goes on to mention a lib that is installed according to adept.  How do I go about resolving this?
[18:27] <TameLion> Hi all..
[18:27] <TameLion> Anyone using MSN on Kopete on KDE 4.0.2?
[18:27] <frank_> compilerwriter: if the deb depends on another version of a package, that deb was not made for your version of ubuntu
[18:30]  * genii slides Jucato a coffee
[18:31] <bubba> i have a question....do i need to install a firewall on kubuntu...i dont think i have right now
[18:31] <compilerwriter> So frank_ you think the problem is that I have the wrong version of kdelib4c2a installed?
[18:31] <bubba> i'm looking in system setting and cant see one
[18:32] <Riddell> bubba: no, you don;t
[18:32] <bubba> really
[18:33] <frank_> compilerwriter: is that the error you get? what deb are you trying to install?
[18:35] <compilerwriter> frank_ I am trying to install a deb that is a klamav frontend.
[18:36] <frank_> Riddell: I'm not sure who worked on the automatic printer installation in hardy but it worked like magic for my Brother ML-2510 ;-)
[18:36] <Riddell> frank_: excellent!
[18:36] <Riddell> frank_: did you get the icon in the corner?
[18:36] <frank_> Riddell: yeah
[18:36] <Riddell> perfecty
[18:37] <compilerwriter> klamav_0.42-oldkid1_i386.deb is what I am trying to install frank_
[18:38] <frank_> compilerwriter: why don't you just install the one from the repository?
[18:38] <compilerwriter> There is a front end from the repo?  I thought I had installed the version from the repo that was terminal only frank_
[18:39] <frank_> compilerwriter: well there is a package called klamav
[18:39] <frank_> !info klamav
[18:39] <ubotu> klamav (source: klamav): KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.41.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 735 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[18:40] <compilerwriter> thanks frank_
[18:40] <adam_> i just installed the vice emulator but i have no idea how can i run it?
[18:44] <adam_> any idea about the vice emulator?
[18:54] <TameLion> Err... did the kopete from 4.0.2 make it into the PPA?
[18:54] <TameLion> I seem to be running everythin 4.0.2 but still getting bugs in Kopete from the 4.0.1 version
[18:54] <TameLion> :(
[18:55] <ForgeAus> adman vice is for commodore computers
[18:55] <ForgeAus> you need a disk or tape or cartridge image
[18:58] <Vermux> with which software I can create bitmap files?
[18:59] <bubba> how do i install karamba?
[18:59] <ForgeAus> apt-get install karumba ?
[18:59] <ForgeAus> isn't it superkarumba tho?
[18:59] <ScorpKing> Vermux: gimp
[18:59] <ForgeAus> dunno about the one in kde4 (its probably built into something else)
[19:00] <bubba> superkarumba ok
[19:00] <ForgeAus> hehe if it were me I'd call it ai-karumba :)
[19:00] <ScorpKing> plasma will take care of the superkaramba stuff in kde4
[19:00] <Vermux> which is better, gimp or karumba/>
[19:00] <Vermux> ?
[19:01] <ForgeAus> see I thought it had something to do karumba's job :)
[19:01] <ForgeAus> Vermux karumba isn't a bitmap maker
[19:01] <ForgeAus> its a desktop widget thingy
[19:01] <Vermux> ok
[19:01] <Vermux> , thanks
[19:05] <DanglyBits> just installed kubuntu and all my window fonts are small how do i correct this?
[19:06] <frank_> DanglyBits: System Settings->Appearance->fonts
[19:08] <DanglyBits> some of the fonts are still small in programs like xchat.
[19:08] <frank_> DanglyBits: ummm xchat is not a kde program. maybe the option is in xchat itself
[19:10] <cuznt> gutsy sound does not work
[19:10] <bubba> how i get superkaramba (karumba :) )
[19:10] <stdin> frank_: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[19:10] <stdin> bubba: install the package
[19:11] <frank_> DanglyBits: ^^
[19:11] <ForgeAus> bubba do a search for it in adept_manager or kpackage or aptitude or dselect
[19:11] <bubba> i did in adept_manager didnt see it
[19:11] <stdin> !info superkaramba | bubba
[19:12] <bubba> !superkaramba
[19:12] <ubotu> bubba: superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[19:12] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[19:12] <stdin> make sure you have universe enabled
[19:14] <DanglyBits> problem solved...needed to install the microsfoft truetype fonts
[19:14] <ForgeAus> I still can't get used to using ark
[19:14] <bubba> how i have universe enabled stdin
[19:15] <stdin> !repos | bubba
[19:15] <ubotu> bubba: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[19:15] <bubba> !repos
[19:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[19:16] <bubba> ty
[19:27] <bubba> well i have universe i dont see karamba
[19:30] <ForgeAus> what manager are you using? adept?
[19:36] <bubba> in adding repositories...which is best gutsy partner or gutsy partner (source code)
[19:36] <ForgeAus> gutsy partner?
[19:37] <anon32> bubba, um... they're different things. That's like asking whether cars or airplanes are better.
[19:37] <bubba> archive.canonical.....
[19:37] <frank_> bubba: the source code one is optional
[19:37] <anon32> As you *should* see, one is binary and the other is "source" packages.
[19:37] <bubba> ah ok ty frank
[19:38] <frank_> bubba: not much is useful there though
[19:38] <bubba> i'm looking for superkaramba
[19:39] <intelikey> i think i'm still lagging    -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 104.957 seconds
[19:39] <frank_> bubba: it's in universe. what version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:39] <bubba> i've just install it yesterday
[19:39] <bubba> kubuntu 7
[19:40] <intelikey> anon32 thinks so too.
[19:40] <anon32> heh
[19:40] <intelikey> 7 4    or  7 10
[19:41] <bubba> 7.10
[19:42] <frank_> I just checked superkaramba is in the repos since 6.06
[19:42] <bubba> yes
[19:42] <teo_> the windows border is not displayed.. its only displayed when i run compiz in terminal
[19:43] <weedar> I'm running firefox3 and java isn't working - does anyone know of a fix?
[19:45] <intelikey> i can't understand why epic transposes anything with a number in it on the input line  but when it posts it to the channel it's not transposed.    i.e.   i type 7 4 and it looks like 4 7 to me until i hit enter...    same with any1 looks like 1any
[19:52] <windvogel> Hello everybody!
[19:53] <dragon_> hi anyone got ventrilo woring on ubuntu
[19:54] <brewmaster> anyone familiar with brother printers and bad margins?
[19:54] <brewmaster> googling yielded nothing
[19:54] <brewmaster> my test page prints perfectly, but everything else is cut off at the top
[19:54] <dragon_> anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet?
[19:57] <DOOM_NX> hello :)
[19:57] <dragon_> hi
[19:58] <dragon_> anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet?
[19:59] <dragon_> anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet? i have tryed wine but locks mouse when i goto setup
[20:00] <dragon_> anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet? i have tryed wine but locks mouse when i goto setup
[20:02]  * intelikey doesn't even know what ventrilo is, but if you have to run it in wine doesn't want to know.
[20:02] <ForgeAus> does anaconda installer work on ubuntu?
[20:02] <bubba> i have wrong repository  link in the installer...now i cant open it...how do i delete that link
[20:03] <intelikey> brewmaster my one and only dealing with a brother device took me to their web site for linux drivers      not at all what i would reccomend to others.
[20:03] <brewmaster> intelikey, heh, i installed their driver
[20:03] <brewmaster> doesn't seem much use
[20:04] <dewd> anyone here having troubles with kde 3.5.9 ?
[20:04] <intelikey> ForgeAus ummm it "might" but it's the redhat installer application   why would you want to use it in ubuntu ?
[20:04] <brewmaster> cups ftl
[20:04] <intelikey> ForgeAus what i'm saying is it's geared for rpm based distros
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> bubba: in what installer?
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> bubba: you mean in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:05] <intelikey> bubba you can edit your sources.list manually if need be.     sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:05] <ForgeAus> intelikey thats precisely why
[20:05] <ForgeAus> package unity...
[20:05] <intelikey> !alian | ForgeAus
[20:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:06] <ForgeAus> alien
[20:06] <ForgeAus> but that involves converting packages and apparently its dangerous
[20:06] <ForgeAus> I'm hoping anaconda handles things in a safer way
[20:07] <ForgeAus> apparently it modifies apt... (which itself sounds dangerous)
[20:07] <intelikey> ForgeAus "safer"  i doubt it.  but good luck anyway.
[20:08] <intelikey> i'm going to take a long hot bath and forget that irc exists...
[20:08] <ForgeAus> hehe
[20:09] <dewd> howto downgrade from kde 3.5.9 to 3.5.8 ?
[20:09] <dewd> .9 is crap
[20:09] <dragon_> anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet?
[20:09] <verve> dewd: why?
[20:10] <dragon_> tryed wine but it locks mouse up when i enter setup
[20:10] <bubba> how do i change my source list from konsole
[20:10] <Minnozz> Hi, does anybody have any idea why gtk-gnutella gives timeouts on every attempt to connect to an ultrapeer?
[20:10] <dewd> verve
[20:10] <ForgeAus> whats so bad about .9?
[20:11] <dewd> verve: lot's of problems .. kded hangs up a lot when connecting usb drives (phones and such)
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> holy crap....Xorg is using 259MB of ram!
[20:11] <dewd> kicker keeps hiding when hiding is on
[20:11] <anon32> nosrednaekim, plz to disable shared VRAM :-)
[20:11] <dewd> doesn't come up until alt+f1
[20:12] <dewd> and now I fucked up the path to desktop
[20:12] <ForgeAus> waht you can't set it to pop back up on mouse?
[20:12] <dewd> it shows the root folder now :-S
[20:12] <dewd> _VERY_ annoying
[20:12] <dewd> yes it _should_ pop up
[20:13] <dragon_>  anyone got ventrilo working on kubuntu yet? tryed wine but it locks mouse up when i enter setup
[20:13] <dewd> I really don't want to empty my .kde folder and move all kinds of stuff back
[20:13] <frank_> nosrednaekim: you can use xrestop to see who the culprits are
[20:13] <dewd> dragon_: use the wine repo from winehq.org
[20:14] <dewd> it should work with an recent wine
[20:14] <dragon_> kk though i had newest one
[20:15] <martijn81> when will the next alpha be released? i want to check a bug report
[20:16] <dewd> kan someone paste an $HOME/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals as it appears to be broken, I cannot change the path via kcontrol
[20:16] <dewd> this really sucks
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> dewd: can try
[20:16] <dewd> kcontrol makes a lot of kdeglobalsECJrjb.new alike files
[20:17] <dewd> but no change to my problem
[20:17] <dewd> suxx
[20:17] <frank_> martijn81: alpha6 has been/will be released today
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[20:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> dewd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58667/
[20:18] <martijn81> frank_: it' s not on kubuntu.org homepage yet
[20:19] <frank_> martijn81: maybe it's later today
[20:19] <dewd> hmm that's kde4 right ?
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> there will be a kde4 CD...
[20:19] <bubba> the apt databe cannot open...how i fix that
[20:19] <bubba> database
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> !aptfix
[20:20] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:20] <bubba> ty
[20:23] <ForgeAus> apt-get update usually re-reads the database but if the database is messed up then yes it should be fixed
[20:28] <dewd> pff the desktop thingy is fixed
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> dewd: awesome
[20:29] <dewd> yeah it was really irritating ..
[20:29] <dewd> uhh so the autohide thing is kinda weird too ..
[20:29] <dewd> I've now configured it so that it will popup when pointer comes to left bottom
[20:30] <dewd> but this is not really what's normal
[20:30] <ForgeAus> dewd I generally set it to a side (well bottom) rather than a corner
[20:30] <ForgeAus> ahh edge, thats the word I was looking for
[20:30] <ForgeAus> an edge of the screen
[20:31] <dewd> ah k this is the default I read over this option .. it should work without this setting I think
[20:31] <dewd> but this works :-)
[20:31] <dewd> thnx
[20:32] <dewd> well that was the last time I played with kde4 for a long time
[20:32] <dewd> still impossible to manage the panel properly
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> that was 3.5.9 wasn't it?
[20:32] <el-gokulo> lol
[20:32] <martijn81> guys, currenty the "checking the mirrorserver" does not work in the installation of 7.10
[20:33] <dewd> I'd like to add an normal menu button but all widgets added come in the far right
[20:33] <el-gokulo> dewd, it wont work for at least kde 4.1
[20:33] <martijn81> and i am not the only one in this, i have seen at least one other person complaining about this in the last days
[20:33] <dewd> yeah it is kde 3.5.9 but I moved my .kde for testing kde4
[20:33] <martijn81> this needs a fix asaop
[20:33] <martijn81> asap
[20:33] <dewd> then the problems started after moving Desktop and .kde back
[20:34] <dewd> Yeah it is not really useable now if you ask me
[20:34] <dewd> They kinda rushed it imho
[20:34] <el-gokulo> for kde purposes ive got an kde4 user :P
[20:34] <bubba> ok i did sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a and i still cant open it
[20:34] <martijn81> can anyone look into this
[20:34] <martijn81> please?
[20:34] <dewd> this is kinda what I expected for an beta but the beta did even (far) less :-)
[20:34] <martijn81> i now have sidux installed because of this
[20:34] <ForgeAus> bubba what happens when you sudo apt-get update ?
[20:35] <ForgeAus> whats sidux?
[20:35] <dewd> martijn what's your prob
[20:35] <martijn81> ForgeAus: sidux is just another debian based distro
[20:35] <bubba> forgeaus...it tells me my source is not know
[20:36] <bubba> i want to delete it
[20:36] <ForgeAus> oh based on debian sid
[20:36] <ForgeAus> wouldn't that be unstable?
[20:36] <martijn81> dewd: my problem is that the installation of kubuntu 7.10 IDLE's on 82% when it says "checking the mirrorserver" (translated)
[20:36] <martijn81> ForgeAus: i dunno, it worked :D
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: simplest way to fix that is to remove the network cable during installation
[20:36] <dewd> hmmz during cd install you mean ?
[20:36] <ForgeAus> bubba check your /etc/apt/sources.list (and/or manage repositories in adept)
[20:37] <bubba> well i cant open adept
[20:37] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: ok, did not know that, but i forsee people steering away from kubuntu because of this
[20:37] <bubba> permission denied forgeaus
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: yeah.... i'm not sure why it started happening.... doesn't happen to everyone either
[20:37] <dewd> So after connecting my phone in usb transfer mode kded is hogging a core @ 100%
[20:38] <bubba> i'm new to linux
[20:38] <martijn81> i see
[20:38] <dewd> this nearly costed me a keyboard a few day's back
[20:38] <martijn81> thanks for listening to me though
[20:38] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: :)
[20:38] <dewd> when selecting the automount in properties for the device
[20:39] <dewd> that wasn't the case in 3.5.8
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> dewd: yep... I've heard of that bug too.
[20:39] <dewd> I'd really like to go back
[20:39] <dewd> nosrednaekim: can it be fixed ?
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> dewd: I have not installed 3.5.9 to find out ;)
[20:40] <dewd> nosrednaekim: I've removed the 3.5.9 repo from sources how to downgrade this crap
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> dewd: probably pretty hard....
[20:40] <dewd> omg
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> dewd: you'd have to remove all the kde packages and then reinstall the old versions
[20:41] <dewd> argg not via pinning or something
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> you might be able to... i'm not too good with apt/dpkg
[20:41] <dewd> pin one pkg downgrade that and have apt sort out deps ?
[20:41] <cuznt> hi i am using kubuntu gutsy and my screen resolution changed to the refresh rate of 61hz i am using the live disk and need to change it back to 60hz
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> might work
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> cuznt: reboot into recovery mode from grub and run the following command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-sorg"
[20:42]  * dewd is thinking about gentoo again (k)ubuntu is deteriorating fast stuff doesn't get fixed (check the kdeobexsrv bug omg)
[20:44] <cuznt> i will try thanks
[20:44] <dewd> but downrading should be possible this should be possible in apt .. right
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> dewd: should be, i've just never tried to do it
[20:45] <dewd> I'd really like to put some mp3's on my phone the trivial stuff
[20:45] <dewd> nosrednaekim: do you know an bugid for that bug
[20:45] <dewd> ?
[20:45] <dewd> perhaps there is an fix
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> dewd: I can look it up..
[20:45] <dewd> great couldn't find it
[20:46] <dewd> kinda gay when someone asks you to put some mp3's on their phones or whatever (now my phone) "that linux stuff sux can't even  put mp3 on my phone"
[20:47] <anon32> hehe
[20:47] <anon32> (and mp3 sucks)
[20:48] <martijn81> lame is nice though
[20:48] <Ahmuck> hi.  has something changed with the way kubuntu handles wireless?
[20:48] <dewd> anon32: well it might sux but I do like some noise while on the public transportation
[20:48] <martijn81> mut ogg vorbis is the way to go (good jamendo.com has realized this too)
[20:48] <martijn81> *but
[20:48] <dewd> vorbis is nice but ipod does not play it
[20:48] <anon32> bah, MPEG-2/4 AAC is far superior to Xiph.org Vorbis
[20:49] <dewd> n95 probably won't either
[20:49] <life> Anyone use kde 4.0.2 or know anything about why the plasma workspace might crash?
[20:49] <martijn81> dewd: there actually is a project for it to play on the ipod
[20:49] <dewd> costs more battery power as well
[20:49] <dewd> martijn81: I know but it suxx
[20:49] <martijn81> it does?
[20:49] <dewd> still I think
[20:49] <dewd> yeah did at least
[20:49] <dewd> cpu isn't up to it
[20:49] <anon32> Rockbox is all software so it uses up more battery life
[20:50] <anon32> and is kind of slow
[20:50] <dewd> yeah so until that changes .. I just like the noise don't really care about the route
[20:51] <dewd> as long as it goes from my PC to my phone and then in my ears
[20:51] <martijn81> dewd: but you should a an iriver or iaudio anyways
[20:51] <martijn81> not a ipod
[20:52] <dewd> yeah but I got an 2G ipod from someone
[20:52] <dewd> so welll ..
[20:52] <dewd> same goes for my phone btw I think it will eat more cpu power
[20:52] <dewd> stoopid n95 has very bad battery life already
[20:53] <dewd> nosrednaekim: can you find the id ?
[20:54] <BizMan210> whats the best way to watch and/or listne to music from any machine in the world on kubuntu? is ithrough samba and ssh, or a media server like jinzora
[20:54] <dewd> btw is it possible to use the kde4 theme in kde3 ?
[20:54] <dewd> looks pretty good
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> dewd: looking...
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> dewd: nope... only for qt4 apps
[20:54] <dewd> too bad thanx
[20:55] <JoshOvki> BizMan210: GNUMP3d  i would say for listening
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah... its beautiful :)
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> dewd: sorry, my internet is super-slow
[20:56] <life> hey, again, nosrednaekim
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> hey life
[20:58] <dewd> nosrednaekim: I found it guess I was too early when searching before
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> dewd: great
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> cause I have to go :)
[21:00] <dewd> no fix though
[21:02] <cuznt> hi i was just in here
[21:03] <cuznt> installed gutsy and somehow the resolution changed and refresh rate and i can not get past the boot
[21:03] <cuznt> i do not know how to get to recovery mode
[21:04] <manu_> i cant get my apt installer open :(
[21:05] <cuznt> manu what do you need it for?
[21:05] <cuznt> you can use the terminal
[21:05] <bubba> sorry i had to reboot
[21:05] <cuznt> maybe there are unresovled dependancies
[21:06] <bubba> i put wrong source in it
[21:06] <bubba> now i cant open it
[21:06] <ScorpKing> cuznt: press <esc> when the computer start and select recovery mode in the grub menu
[21:06] <bubba> arff
[21:06] <ScorpKing> or just press <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>
[21:06] <dhq> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[21:07] <ubotu> File libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 found in libgtk2.0-0
[21:07] <bubba> how can i delete a source in apt-installer
[21:07] <bobesponja> hi
[21:08] <bobesponja> I have windows on my laptop, does kubuntu comes with a partitioner so I can keep them both on dual boot or do I need to use a partition app on windows first?
[21:08] <dhq> !find libglib1.2
[21:08] <ubotu> Found: libglib1.2, libglib1.2-dbg, libglib1.2-dev
[21:09] <life> bobesponja: the kubuntu setup will give you partitioning options
[21:09] <bobesponja> life: thanks, my last version of kubuntu on cd is 6.06, does it have that too?
[21:09] <daiana> hola
[21:10] <life> bobesponja: Hmm, not sure, but I think it should
[21:10] <daiana> me pasan la pag donde bablan castellanoi_
[21:10] <NickPresta> !es | daiana
[21:10] <ubotu> daiana: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:10] <daiana> okis
[21:11] <BizMan210> hey guys whats the best way to watch movies from my pc at home anywhere in the world?
[21:11] <dhq> BizMan210: VLC
[21:11] <BizMan210> dhq, how do i set that up, do i need to set up a media server or something.. .samba shares?
[21:11] <bubba> can anyone tell me how to get full permission in the terminal
[21:12] <BizMan210> bubba: sudo -s
[21:12] <BizMan210> enter ur password
[21:12] <BizMan210> done
[21:12] <bubba> i did
[21:12] <dhq> bubba: try sudo -i
[21:12] <bubba> but it doesnt allow me to change the source list
[21:12] <BizMan210> dhq?
[21:13] <bubba> i still get permission denied
[21:13] <bubba> arff
[21:14] <BizMan210> dhq, how do i get vlc to stream content?
[21:14] <dhq> BizMan210: well just set up the media stream and your done
[21:14] <Arwen> BizMan210, it's buried in VLC's documentation. Or you can use the "streaming/transcoding" wizard.
[21:14] <Ahmuck> anyone installed postbooks?
[21:15] <BizMan210> bubba: try this.... chmod -R 777 /etc/apt/source.list
[21:15] <Arwen> or do you mean "how do I get VLC to play streams"?
[21:15] <BizMan210> No, i want to be able to play music and movies from any computer
[21:15] <BizMan210> i just dont know if i need to set up a server, samba shares or what
[21:16] <Arwen> oh, SAMBA should work fine for that (long as you don't need super-high performance)
[21:16] <Arwen> then you can mount the shares on the clients and play files as though they were local
[21:16] <BizMan210> how do i do that aiwen
[21:16] <dhq> !fixapt
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <Arwen> !smb | BizMan210
[21:16] <ubotu> BizMan210: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:17] <Arwen> see the second link
[21:17] <BizMan210> from any computer in the world
[21:17] <BizMan210> not on my home network
[21:17] <Arwen> oh... that...
[21:17] <BizMan210> i mean, i can ssh in and stff
[21:17] <Arwen> you probably want to run an FTP or similar server
[21:17] <Arwen> I've no experience here, so you'll have to figure out how to secure that yourself
[21:17] <dhq> well you have to setup ssh and all
[21:18] <bubba> not working bizman
[21:18] <BizMan210> i have ssh up and running
[21:18] <Arwen> sftp is not a good way to stream media. Unless you have a ridiculously fast CPU.
[21:18] <BizMan210> i have no problem getting in
[21:18] <BizMan210> what about a media serveer
[21:18] <bubba> its getting painfull here
[21:18] <bubba> wrong link and i cant delete it
[21:18] <Arwen> a "media server" is just any other kind of server that hosts media
[21:18] <BizMan210> like jinzura
[21:19] <Arwen> unless you're thinking of some kind of stream server, which doesn't quite work because then you can't select the media to play from the client
[21:19] <BizMan210> i was reading if i setup it up, i can just cache my movies or music so it loads some into memory first
[21:20] <BizMan210> and i shluld hav eno problem sreaming
[21:20] <dhq> find libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
[21:22] <ubuntu_> ok i figured out how to get to the recovery mode. to reset my moniter hz rate i was told to "sudo dpkg -reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:22] <ubuntu_> that did not work
[21:22] <BizMan210> so no ideas guys?
[21:23] <ubuntu_> no it did not
[21:24] <ubuntu_> im at 64.1  and 61
[21:24] <dhq> !fix apt
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <dhq> !fixapt
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <cuznt> i am using a live cd on said pc now
[21:24] <ScorpKing> !aptfix > dhq
[21:24] <JoshOvki> !aptfix
[21:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:25] <cuznt> to get here. tried reistalling
[21:25] <bubba> i'll to reinstall all because of a bad link....:(
[21:26] <bubba> i did ubotu it wont work
[21:28] <cuznt> !fixRes
[21:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:28] <dthacker-work> !songbird
[21:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:29] <dthacker-work> ubotu, ubotu, ubotu.
[21:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubotu, ubotu. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:29] <Corty> hi
[21:30] <bubba> why do i get permission denied if i'm the root
[21:31] <heath> can anyone help me get my mic to work??
[21:31] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[21:31] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:31] <ForgeAus> bubba? doesn't sound right
[21:31] <bubba> i know
[21:32] <epzt> hi
[21:32] <bubba> why doesnt it let me delete that source
[21:32] <bubba> its not too much to ask
[21:33] <epzt> I did install kde4 for a quit test and after some days uninstall it, but since, kdm does not work and I can't reinstall it
[21:34] <ForgeAus> kdm doesn't work? uh? what?
[21:34] <ForgeAus> use xephyr
[21:35] <epzt> kdm is not install, I guess it's been install with kde4
[21:35] <epzt> ininstall sorry
[21:35] <bubba> ok i'm going to reinstall
[21:35] <ForgeAus> sudo make me a sandwich
[21:35] <ForgeAus> hehehe - http://xkcd.com/149/
[21:35] <xevi__> anyone knows the name of the spanish chanel of kubuntu?
[21:36] <ForgeAus> kubuntu-es ?
[21:36] <ForgeAus> erm I mean #kubuntu-es ?
[21:36] <xevi__> ok thanks
[21:36]  * bobesponja thinks #kubuntu-es should be added to topic :)
[21:38] <epzt> I try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm, but get errors concerning dependance unsatisfy
[21:39] <dthacker-work> ForgeAus: xkcd ++
[21:40] <dthacker-work> epzt: what install tool are you using?
[21:40] <epzt> aptitude
[21:41] <epzt> soryy, adept
[21:41] <dthacker-work> epzt: doesn't adept have a solve switch that will pull in other packages?
[21:42] <epzt> I going to have a look to
[21:42] <LadyNikon> I need some help with monitor resolutions.. my monitor acer al2216W is not in the list of monitors
[21:42] <LadyNikon> how i can kubuntu to see the correct resolution
[21:43] <Sylvia-> Hello, play online with me ,
[21:43] <Sylvia-> http://jugar-online.blogspot.com/
[21:43] <dthacker-work> Sylvia: move along
[21:43] <dthacker-work> !coc
[21:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[21:44] <LadyNikon> Sylvia-: please do not spam here
[21:44] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:44] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: that was typed, not cut and paste so beware my typos :)
[21:45] <LadyNikon> heh
[21:45]  * LadyNikon sighs
[21:47] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: when you find the correct resolution, you may want to post a bug to launchpad to get it added to the next version.
[21:47] <epzt> in adept when I want to install kdm, it says "interrup (install)"
[21:47] <epzt> what does it mean ?
[21:49] <dthacker-work> epzt: did adept crash while you were using it?
[21:49] <dthacker-work> !fixadept
[21:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:49] <epzt> no
[21:49] <epzt> works fine
[21:50] <dthacker-work> epzt: do you have any other packages selected for install besides kdm?
[21:50] <epzt> no, just kdm
[21:51] <epzt> I tried also in a command line: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm, but no success
[21:52] <epzt> kdm: Dépend: kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2) mais 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 devra être installé E: Paquets défectueux
[21:52] <epzt> that's what it says (sorry it's in french)
[21:52] <epzt> :)
[21:52] <dthacker-work> epzt: I'm sorry, but I'm out of ideas.  Anyone else have a tip?
[21:53] <dhq> i messed around with glibc and gtk now i get errors can anyone help
[21:54] <epzt> the think which surprise me is that I comment the deb line for kde4 packages in the sources.list file, but still list the kde4 package in adept
[22:07] <LadyNikon> dthacker-work: my resolution is worse now :/
[22:07] <re-align> Any way to get Kopete to play a sound when you recieve an IM, or buddies come online?
[22:09] <re-align> Or should I try finding a different client?
[22:09] <LadyNikon> heh most people are trying to turn that crap off
[22:11] <re-align> It never has played sounds for me. And my sound system works (I watch DVDs frequently).
[22:16] <re-align> !im
[22:16] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[22:17] <re-align> !Pidgin
[22:17] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[22:17] <LadyNikon> re-align: i you want sound use Pidgin
[22:17] <LadyNikon> if*
[22:17] <LadyNikon> its a nice program.
[22:18] <dthacker-work> Lady Nikon: sorry, but you're in trial and error land.....
[22:19] <LadyNikon> great..
[22:19] <LadyNikon> more like broken and big land :S
[22:19] <re-align> Right, I'll get Pidgin.
[22:19] <re-align> Thanks guys, and ubotu
[22:22] <LadyNikon> welp
[22:22] <LadyNikon> dthacker-work: i dunno what i did..
[22:22] <LadyNikon> but i got the correct resolution
[22:23] <LadyNikon> when i did the 2nd thing under that link
[22:23] <LadyNikon> it forgot everything else :S
[22:23] <danny> Hey, Anyone know the easyest way to upgrade to KDE4? I am running hardy with kde3
[22:24] <NickPresta> danny, hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 (you can also try #kubuntu-kde4)
[22:26] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: everything else?
[22:26] <danny> NickPresta: ok, thanks!
[22:26] <LadyNikon> i dunno.. it took me back to 680x764 or something
[22:27] <LadyNikon> it detected it.. in that program fine.. but when restarting X.. it didnt work
[22:27] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: so xresshow worked, but the values did not get into your xorg.conf file?
[22:28] <LadyNikon> i guess .. because everything came up wrong
[22:28] <LadyNikon> I went into kde and changed it from the monitor section
[22:28] <LadyNikon> kept playing around til i found a setting that would take
[22:29] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon: did your xorg.conf file change?
[22:30] <giuseppe> Hi, my firefox today does not run. It's very strange!
[22:30] <giuseppe> can you help me?
[22:30] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: is it running but crashed?
[22:30] <giuseppe> I already restarted my pc, but nothing
[22:30] <MilitantPotato> ah nvm
[22:30] <giuseppe> you mean if it runs in background?
[22:31] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: I try to launch it, as always, but today it does not run!
[22:32] <LadyNikon> dthacker-work: the Xorg has the correct monitor identifier.. but the wrong model name
[22:32] <LadyNikon> its almost like the xorg and the kde monitor setting merged
[22:32] <LadyNikon> i dunno
[22:32] <LadyNikon> i gotta do my homework and study for midterms
[22:32] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: sorry, any help?
[22:32] <LadyNikon> I guess i will just troubleshoot it a lil later
[22:32] <wswindell> any one have myspace?
[22:33] <LadyNikon> wswindell: thats off topic here
[22:33] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: I've no idea, you could try re-installing it, but I honestly don't know
[22:33] <dthacker-work> LadyNikon:  you may want to save a backup copy and edit it manually.   I'm going to have to sign off now.   Good Luck.
[22:33] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: what happens when you try and run it from terminal?
[22:33] <wswindell> can it network kubuntu with a vista pc
[22:33] <LadyNikon> dthacker-work: thanks anyways
[22:33] <NickPresta> giuseppe, what is wrong with your firefox installation?
[22:34] <andrea_> someone in italian?
[22:34] <LadyNikon> wswindell: myspace the website?
[22:34] <NickPresta> !it | andrea_
[22:34] <wswindell> !HELP! Is it possible to network a kubuntu pc with a windows vista pc
[22:34] <ubotu> andrea_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:34] <MilitantPotato> wswindell: yep, with samba
[22:34] <NickPresta> !samba | wswindell
[22:34] <ubotu> wswindell: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[22:34] <MilitantPotato> !samba
[22:34] <LadyNikon> what NickPresta said
[22:34] <wswindell> how do install samba?
[22:35] <giuseppe> NickPresta: I installed it in right way and it worked fine, but today ir does not run
[22:35] <MilitantPotato> visit the links above :)
[22:35] <NickPresta> wswindell, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-samba.html
[22:35] <wswindell> i know, i was typing when you replied
[22:35] <NickPresta> giuseppe, what happens when you run 'firefox' from the console?
[22:35] <MilitantPotato> wswindell: I like the program gsambad for changing samba settings, makes it pretty simple for me
[22:35] <giuseppe> NickPresta: now I try!
[22:36] <wswindell> NickPresta, you helped me last night. thanx a Million!
[22:36] <NickPresta> wswindell, yep, no problem.
[22:36] <edmetal> wow
[22:36] <giuseppe> NickPresta: this is the answer:
[22:36] <giuseppe> (gecko:7646): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Garamond 8.3994140625'
[22:36] <giuseppe> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[22:37] <wswindell> people thought i was rude last night for typing in all capitals to get peoples attn
[22:38] <wswindell> how can i connect to other irc servers?
[22:38] <NickPresta> giuseppe, did you recently install fonts?
[22:38] <wswindell> is it possible to install a program such as REALplayer on kubuntu
[22:38] <NickPresta> wswindell, open a new server tab and type: /server SERVER_URI where SERVER_URI is irc.freenode.net or something
[22:38] <NickPresta> !realplayer | wswindell
[22:39] <MilitantPotato> !codecs | wswindell
[22:39] <ubotu> wswindell: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:39] <wswindell> yes
[22:39] <wswindell> ??
[22:39] <giuseppe> NickPresta: I tried to change character used by Firefox. So I guess I have to change it... but I don't konw how...
[22:39] <Samret> после ребута он опять не примонтирован
[22:40] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: if you've got your bookmarks backed up, you could delete your .firefox folder in your home directory
[22:40] <wswindell> what do you mean
[22:40] <MilitantPotato> wswindell: visit those links :)
[22:40] <wswindell> no
[22:40] <MilitantPotato> no?
[22:40] <wswindell> i have no internet connection
[22:40] <MilitantPotato> how are you on here?
[22:40] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: do you know how can I check if I have my bookmarks backed up?
[22:41] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: if you did it yourself :)
[22:41] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: I'll get the file name you should copy
[22:41] <wswindell> through PSP linux with A wireless hotel router
[22:41] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato:
[22:41] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: right!
[22:42] <wswindell> Playstation Portable Linux next to my non wireless kubuntu laptop
[22:42] <wswindell> i am only 15 yrs old
[22:42] <wswindell> fuck you
[22:42] <Philip5> i just installed kde4 with kubuntu and when i login with a clean config setup with kde4 i get a widget within a widget that has the panel with the systray and the clock. the panel is located like in the middle of the screen as that widget isn't full screen... is this a known problem for some?
[22:43] <wswindell> MilitantPotato: fuck you bitch
[22:43] <MilitantPotato> !ohmy | wswindell
[22:43] <ubotu> wswindell: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:43] <MilitantPotato> !ops
[22:43] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[22:43] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: now the message is this:
[22:43] <giuseppe> (gecko:7929): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Garamond 8.3994140625'
[22:43] <giuseppe> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[22:44] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*****/bookmarks.html
[22:44] <MilitantPotato> ~/ being your home directory
[22:47] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: I try
[22:49] <tdn> Where can I find backports of dcraw for Ubuntu? I would like to get a version that is at least 8.76.
[22:49] <erenrich> Is there a channel to discuss the hardy alpha?
[22:49] <MilitantPotato> erenrich: #ubuntu+1
[22:50] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: same message. I deleted file suggested by you.. but nothing
[22:50] <MilitantPotato> noo
[22:50] <MilitantPotato> back that up :(
[22:50] <MilitantPotato> that's your favorites
[22:51] <giuseppe> well, I just moved in another directory
[22:52] <MilitantPotato> ok :)
[22:53] <giuseppe> so please, what I have to do?
[22:53] <MilitantPotato> sorry my A key got stuck
[22:53] <MilitantPotato> kids and their juice :)
[22:54] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: I have copied the file... now what I have to do?
[22:54] <MilitantPotato> move the .mozilla folder to your desktop
[22:54] <MilitantPotato> /home/user/.mozilla
[22:54] <MilitantPotato> /home/user/.mozilla/firefox
[22:54] <MilitantPotato> tsorry.
[22:55] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: I have to move all content of firefox's folder?
[22:55] <MilitantPotato> the firefox folder itself
[22:55] <MilitantPotato> not the contents
[22:56] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: ok
[22:56] <MilitantPotato> then open firefox, see how that goes
[22:57] <MilitantPotato> it should reset firefox to the default configuration, did for me atleast
[22:59] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: you were right! thanks a lot!
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: go to bookmarks then organize
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> then File>Import
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> find that bookmarks.html file, and open it
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> it will put your bookmarks back.
[23:01] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: done!
[23:01] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: :)
[23:01] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: but is it possible to recover also skin and plugin I installed b4?
[23:02] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: probably, but I'm not sure which files are what in firefox
[23:03] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: Oh I see! By the way thanks very very much... I learned one more thing this night :-D
[23:03] <MilitantPotato> the extentions folder maybe
[23:03] <MilitantPotato> copying that over might help
[23:03] <MilitantPotato> giuseppe: no problem, glad I could help
[23:05] <wmgries> This might be a novice question, but is there a torrent download option for the CD version of Kubuntu 7.10?  I must be missing it if there is.
[23:05] <giuseppe> MilitantPotato: great! It seems work fine ;)
[23:06] <jawee> wmgries: nope, as the directory listing shows: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/
[23:06] <wmgries> jawee: ok, thanks then
[23:06] <NickPresta> wmgries, there is a torrent for the Kubuntu DVDs (which include more default applications). If you head to the directory listing on a mirror (like this http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/gutsy/) they sometimes have torrents for the CDs
[23:07] <jawee> wmgries: I'm looking, but have yet to find an unofficial torrent, but there is undoubtely one out there.
[23:08] <jawee> wmgries: ah, here we go: http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/27753627/?tab=summary
[23:08] <NickPresta> jawee, http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/gutsy/
[23:09] <wmgries> jawee & NickPresta: thanks for the help
[23:09] <jawee> NickPresta: oh, missed that. :-)
[23:09] <NickPresta> :) most mirrors should have torrents available.
[23:13] <Overlock> hello tlm
[23:13] <Overlock> hi all
[23:14] <boggystudios> Has any one here heard of an open source program that helps one learn another language, like japanese?
[23:16] <jawee> boggystudios: http://edu.kde.org/klatin/ <- KLatin :)
[23:17] <erenrich> Anyone know why my sudo would fail to execute the command and not print an error message?
[23:17] <LadyNikon> boggystudios: there is livemocha
[23:17] <NickPresta> erenrich, which command?
[23:17] <erenrich> any
[23:17] <erenrich> sudo ls
[23:17] <LadyNikon> its not a program though.. its a website
[23:17] <erenrich> returns nothing
[23:18] <ps3_> k
[23:19] <jawee> boggystudios: In all seriousness, I can't find anything remotely completed for modern languages.
[23:19] <jawee> boggystudios: just works in progress/ideas like this: http://code.google.com/p/uhura/
[23:24] <day> la pag para hablar en castel;lno _
[23:24] <prince_jammys> !es | day
[23:24] <ubotu> day: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:25] <maux__> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano??
[23:25] <day> grax
[23:25] <prince_jammys> !it | maux
[23:25] <ubotu> maux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:26] <maux__> ok
[23:28] <jawee> root________: using your root account with IRC probably isn't the best of ideas ;)
[23:29] <Israphel> XD
[23:32] <phix> hi
[23:33] <jawee> phix: 'ello
[23:33] <prince_jammys> !hi
[23:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[23:33] <kymoie> hello
[23:33] <phix> 'ows it g'ing?
[23:35] <kymoie> good, nice to see we have a friendly bot
[23:37] <kymoie> updates broke my kde (and yes I have more information than that, but the info is long)
[23:37] <kymoie> I did some updates on wednesday that managed to a) get me an ubuntu login screen when it used to be a kubuntu login screen (yes I do have gnome installed also, but kubuntu is my base system). b) make KDE4 unaccessable, c) when I open a KDE3 session I have no links on my desktop and at least 2 "malformed URL" errors on startup "malformed URL system:/" and "malformed URL trash:/". I found a bug that looks like mine ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[23:37] <kymoie> ve dolphin (d3lphin) 0.9.2-0ubuntu2 and I have no idea how to find 0.9.2-0ubuntu5 the archive.ubuntu.com repos don't seem to have 5. I also don't know how to find or apply the patch they are talking about in that bug.
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> kymoie: to get the kde login screen, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> kymoie: did you update to kde 3.5.9?
[23:41] <kymoie> kdm is broken...
[23:41] <cuznt> is there a dpkg-reconfigure list?
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> uhh never mind gotta go eat...BBL
[23:42] <oloughlin75> c ya nosrednaekim!
[23:42] <kymoie> how do I find out what kde I have installed?
[23:42] <oloughlin75> kymoie: Right click the taskbar on an empty spot and click About KDE
[23:43] <kymoie> 3.5.8
[23:43] <erenrich> There is a problem with the keyboard volume control (it chages the volume improperly), what component should I look at to fix the problem?
[23:44] <oloughlin75> erenrich: There isn't anything you can really do, as far as I know.
[23:44] <kymoie> cuznt: how would I find a dpkg-reconfiger list?
[23:45] <erenrich> oloughlin75: but where would look, in the source even, to investigate this problem?
[23:45] <oloughlin75> erenrich: I do not know
[23:45] <erenrich> alright
[23:48] <cuznt> yeeeeeeees.........
[23:48] <Wolven_UK> how can i fix the dependencies when the command sudo apt-get install -f doesnt resolve the problem
[23:49] <cuznt> try dpkg --configure -a in termial wolven_uk
[23:49] <hacker> 有人吗？
[23:49] <NickPresta> !cn | hacker
[23:49] <ubotu> hacker: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:50] <hacker> 我喜欢英文频道
[23:51] <Wolven_UK> cuznt:that didnt do it..
[23:52] <hacker> ?
[23:52] <cuznt> sorry
[23:52] <hacker> haha
[23:52] <Wolven_UK> its ok
[23:53] <jawee> Wolven_UK: what error exactly are you getting?
[23:54] <Wolven_UK> it says that the dependices cant be resolved..i installed libfontconfig1 from a .deb and it went strange during the install now i cant update or remove programs in adept
[23:54] <cuznt> !sound faq
[23:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound faq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:54] <hacker> 我英语不是很好啊
[23:55] <NickPresta> !english | hacker
[23:55] <ubotu> hacker: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:55] <hacker> 英语不好
[23:56] <NickPresta> !jp | hacker
[23:56] <ubotu> hacker: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[23:56] <hacker> china
[23:56] <NickPresta> !cn | hacker
[23:56] <ubotu> hacker: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:56] <hacker> 和你聊聊
[23:56] <hacker> zh cn
[23:57] <hacker> goodbye
[23:59] <cuznt> neat trick NickPresta