[17:49] <intellectronica> Rinchen: bing
[17:59]  * mpt waves blearily to mwhudson 
[18:00] <mwhudson> hi mpt
[18:00] <mwhudson> i didn't even get up in time to make coffee :/
[18:00] <mpt> I'd actually prefer this meeting at 1200 UTC, because that's when my other meeting is :-P
[18:01] <thumper> mpt: ah, no
[18:01] <gmb> mwhudson: What you get for moving to the other side of the world, mate.
[18:01] <mwhudson> oof
[18:03] <intellectronica> mwhudson: it's not even clear that there is a meeting
[18:03] <barry> me?
[18:03] <intellectronica> but don't be sorry - waking up early builds character :P
[18:03] <sinzui> It's all about you
[18:03] <thumper> we're waiting for kiko to say yay or nay
[18:04] <mwhudson> wunderbar
[18:04] <mpt> #launchpad says "Next meeting (all welcome): Thu 6 March 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting"
[18:04] <thumper> but he isn't around right now
[18:04] <intellectronica> yeah, barry is our new Cod
[18:04] <salgado> I think barry was volunteering to chair the meeting? ;)
[18:04]  * barry searches for his cape
[18:04] <sinzui> waking up early is an opportunity to have an accident while in a somnambulistic state
[18:04]  * barry only finds his piece
[18:05] <statik_> thae cable company would choose *right now* to disconnect me
[18:05] <sinzui> No capes! Edna Mode was very clear on this point
[18:05] <intellectronica> sinzui: that's a /great/ word
[18:05] <barry> even cod capes?
[18:05] <mthaddon> or es capes
[18:06] <mpt> This conversation is in a soporific state
[18:06] <kiko> hello hello
[18:06] <statik_> shalom
[18:06] <barry> mpt: better than sophomoric
[18:06] <mpt> but kiko will soon fix that
[18:06] <sinzui> barry: Can you imagine the stench of a cod cape? You will certainly make friends with all the neighborhood cats.
[18:06] <statik_> al-maisan! welcome
[18:06] <mpt> Welcome al-maisan
[18:06] <cprov> me, me
[18:06] <kiko> where's that good ole Rinchen character
[18:06] <barry> sinzui: you're right.  and ms mode says nothing about cod pieces, so...
[18:06] <al-maisan> statik_: thanks :-)
[18:06] <gmb> Riiiiiiiiiincheeeeeeen!
[18:07] <kiko> ORRIGHT
[18:07] <thumper> Rinchen says he's busy
[18:07] <bigjools> slacker
[18:07] <kiko> ok
[18:07] <sinzui> barry: Are you hinting that you are wearing a cod piece?
[18:07] <kiko>  * Next meeting
[18:07] <kiko>  * Actions from last meeting
[18:07] <kiko>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[18:07] <kiko>  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[18:07] <kiko>  * Bug tags
[18:07] <kiko>  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[18:07] <kiko>  * DBA report (stub)
[18:07] <kiko>  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[18:07] <kiko>  * New packages required (salgado)
[18:07] <kiko>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[18:07] <kiko>  * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[18:07] <kiko> me
[18:07] <kiko> #startmeeting
[18:07] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:07. The chair is kiko.
[18:07] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:07] <barry> sinzui: hints and allegations
[18:07] <mthaddon> me
[18:07] <flacoste> me
[18:08] <leonardr> me
[18:08] <sinzui> me
[18:08] <mars> me
[18:08] <kiko> me
[18:08] <thumper> me
[18:08] <matsubara> me
[18:08] <adeuring> me
[18:08] <barry> me
[18:08] <mpt> me
[18:08] <FreeNode> me
[18:08] <bac> me
[18:08] <bigjools> me (until 1830UTC)
[18:08] <al-maisan> me
[18:08] <carlos> me
[18:08] <salgado> me
[18:08] <cprov> me
[18:08] <schwuk> me
[18:08] <stub> me
[18:08] <intellectronica> me (but leaving early, ~18:35)
[18:08] <gmb> me
[18:08] <statik_> me
[18:08] <kiko> well, we seem to have an official FreeNode representatirrrve
[18:08] <kiko> very good
[18:08] <mwhudson> me
[18:08] <carlos> jtv is travelling
[18:08] <BjornT> me (might leave a bit early as well)
[18:08] <kiko> mrevell is on the train
[18:08] <kiko> rinchen's blown us off
[18:09] <thumper> yup
[18:09] <kiko> steve's chatting up girls
[18:09] <kiko> what else
[18:09] <BjornT> allenap's internet connection is flakey, so he might not make it
[18:09] <kiko> ok
[18:09] <kiko> let's make this quick then
[18:09] <thumper> kiko: code's not blocked, can I go now
[18:09] <thumper> ?
[18:09] <kiko> thumper, no.
[18:09] <gmb> kiko: allenap just phoned to say he /won't/ make it
[18:09] <SteveA> me
[18:09] <kiko> [TOPIC] * Next meeting
[18:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Next meeting
[18:09] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[18:09] <kiko> SteveA!!
[18:09] <SteveA> kiko: !
[18:10] <kiko> so next meeting, who can't be here?
[18:10] <SteveA> me
[18:10] <barry> kiko: me
[18:10] <EdwinGrubbs> kiko: me
[18:10] <SteveA> I'll be en route to PyCon
[18:10] <mars> me
[18:10] <mthaddon> I will be off next week (vacation)
[18:11]  * kiko can't live without mthaddon!
[18:11] <kiko> I'll be here
[18:11] <kiko> so [AGREED] meeting next week, same time, same location.
[18:11]  * kiko looks at MootBot 
[18:11] <kiko> [AGREED] meeting next week, same time, same location god dam mit
[18:11] <MootBot> AGREED received:  meeting next week, same time, same location god dam mit
[18:11] <schwuk> maybe it didn't like the "so "
[18:12] <kiko> [TOPIC] Actions from last meeting
[18:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Actions from last meeting
[18:12] <kiko>  * repost: salgado to investigate adding turbogears for codebrowse and germinate
[18:12] <kiko>  * repost: danilos to investigate profiling and Rosetta team to prepare proposal for next week to fix remaining timeouts
[18:12] <kiko>  * repost: mthaddon - discuss updating devpad rocketfuel archives to packs and do so if lifeless approved.
[18:12] <kiko>  * repost: kiko and cprov - discuss bug 193656
[18:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193656 in soyuz "Process-death-row procedure became very slow" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193656
[18:12] <kiko>  * matsubara to file a place holder bug for OOPS-788EB21 and assign it to carlos who is already investigating it. Done: bug 196679
[18:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196679 in rosetta "ValueError on +language-packs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196679
[18:12] <kiko>  * matsubara to investigate OOPS-788EC5 and confirm if it's related to 195809, if not file a new bug.
[18:12] <danilos> me
[18:12] <kiko>  * matsubara to email flacoste about oops in 196661 and check if it was fixed by 191074. Done: 196661 is a new issue. Francis on it.
[18:12] <kiko>  * cprov and salgado to discus python-apt packaging in lpdebs
[18:12] <mthaddon> kiko, devpad has been upgraded to packs format
[18:12] <kiko> mthaddon, good job.
[18:12] <matsubara> it's not related and I just filed bug 199203 for OOPS-788EC5
[18:12] <kiko> salgado?
[18:12] <ubotu> Bug 199203 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/199203 is private
[18:12] <danilos> kiko: we have some reports, haven't agreed on the action yet (a lot of stuff has changed with the new DB hardware)
[18:13] <kiko> danilos, yeah, the performance is amazing this week! let's keep our eyes peeled, but it looks much better.
[18:13] <kiko> flacoste, do you know the answer to the actions for salgado?
[18:13] <salgado> kiko, haven't investigated yet
[18:13] <salgado> kiko, I think we're going to put turbogears inside sourcecode/
[18:13] <danilos> kiko: some of my suspicions have been confirmed (i.e. lots of translations mean slower fetching of external suggestions), but some might need more investigation
[18:14] <kiko> salgado, do you need some input from anywhere?
[18:14] <salgado> kiko, and germinate should be easy to add
[18:14] <salgado> kiko, nope, don't think so
[18:14] <kiko> salgado, what do we need to do to make these happen? don't say give me 28h days
[18:14] <salgado> kiko, I'll do it tomorrow, promise!
[18:15] <kiko> salgado, :) thanks
[18:15] <kiko> so cprov and I have worked on the bug we had assigned to ourselves to fix death row slowness
[18:15] <salgado> they don't seem to be urgent, so they kept slipping
[18:15] <mwhudson> salgado: be warned, turbogears doesn't work with the version of sqlobject that's in sourcecode...
[18:15] <kiko> elmo gave me a hint, and cprov worked out a patch that makes it, oh, 30x faster :)
[18:15] <cprov> kiko: yes, and julian will be reviewing it in a bit
[18:15] <salgado> mwhudson, that's good to know. thanks!
[18:16] <kiko> [ACTION] salgado to investigate codebrowse and germinate inclusion in sourcecode, TOMORROW :)
[18:16] <MootBot> ACTION received:  salgado to investigate codebrowse and germinate inclusion in sourcecode, TOMORROW :)
[18:16] <cprov> salgado: I'm just waiting to the new python-apt package to be published in gutsy-backports.
[18:16] <kiko> cprov, any ETA for that from mvo?
[18:16] <kiko> matsubara, what about your action items?
[18:16] <cprov> kiko: no :(
[18:16] <matsubara> kiko: already answered.
[18:17] <matsubara> kiko: <matsubara> it's not related and I just filed bug 199203 for OOPS-788EC5
[18:17] <ubotu> Bug 199203 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/199203 is private
[18:17] <matsubara> kiko: and the other two are already done, and updated in the MeetingAgenda items themselves
[18:17] <kiko> matsubara, ah, I see that we've got some resolved ones there. thanks!
[18:17] <kiko> cool
[18:17] <kiko> matsubara, are any of them high or critical?
[18:17] <jml> hello!
[18:17] <kiko> hey jml
[18:18] <kiko> thumper, just saw your OOPS landing fix, thanks a lot -- we might need to get that cherrypicked if it's happenning on lpnet?
[18:18] <kiko> [TOPIC]  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[18:18] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Oops report (Matsubara)
[18:18] <matsubara> kiko: only flacoste's one
[18:18] <kiko> thanks.
[18:18]  * flacoste is a slacker
[18:18] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 192242, 198828
[18:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192242 in launchpad-bazaar "OOPS linking an existing branch to a series" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192242
[18:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198828 in launchpad "Upload project file with non-ascii character in the filename breaks the page" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198828
[18:18] <matsubara> Bug 192242 has no assignee yet, mwhudson recently changed its importance to High. Any code-team takers?
[18:18] <flacoste> but it should be fixed for next week
[18:18] <matsubara> Yesterday I chatted with Edwin about bug 198828. He took it and will have a fix soon.
[18:19] <kiko> thanks flacoste
[18:19] <mwhudson> i can look at it
[18:19] <kiko> matsubara, this happens because we have non-ascii filenames in islocc, right?
[18:19] <matsubara> Also bug 199203, which I just reported, could use some help from the code team to figure out the cause behind the oops
[18:19] <ubotu> Bug 199203 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/199203 is private
[18:19] <matsubara> kiko: yes
[18:19] <mwhudson> though i worry that i'm going to get confused about the intended workflows around productseries
[18:20] <kiko> mwhudson, hmm, if you wanna chat with me or thumper while we are around here, I'd be happy
[18:20] <kiko> mwhudson, if you like, arrange a call with us for tomorrow
[18:20] <kiko> can be early if you like
[18:20] <kiko> matsubara, thanks!
[18:20] <mwhudson> kiko: ping me when you get up?
[18:20] <mwhudson> i'm likely to be working a bit later tonight anyway
[18:20] <thumper> kiko: the code oops is on lpnet, so yes a cherry pick would be a good idea
[18:21] <kiko> thumper, please arrange it with mthaddon or herb_, rc=kiko
[18:21] <kiko> [TOPIC] * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[18:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[18:21] <kiko> we're going to skip this this week, unless anyone has a critical bug to raise
[18:21] <sodarock_home> matsubara: where you going to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/196253
[18:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196253 in launchpad "OOPS importing pgp key" [High,New]
[18:21] <kiko> aha!
[18:21] <matsubara> oh sorry, forgot about that one.
[18:21] <kiko> sodarock_home, we can do that as a top-user-affecting-issue-of-the-week
[18:22] <kiko> (if matsubara likes)
[18:22] <matsubara> yep, could be
[18:22] <kiko> ok cool
[18:22] <kiko> so any critical bugs apart from the ones above?
[18:22] <matsubara> I'll proxy mrevell stuff anyway
[18:22] <kiko> ok
[18:22] <kiko> SteveA, ping?
[18:22] <kiko> [TOPIC]  * Bug tags
[18:22] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Bug tags
[18:22] <SteveA> kiko: hi
[18:23] <kiko> I had one proposed tag
[18:23] <kiko> wanted input from BjornT, SteveA and others
[18:23] <kiko>  dupefinder
[18:23] <kiko> 	
[18:23] <kiko> Bugs related to the duplicate matcher
[18:23] <kiko> 	
[18:23] <kiko> kiko
[18:23] <flacoste> dupefinder?
[18:23] <kiko> 	
[18:23] <kiko> [WWW] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/174443
[18:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 174443 in malone "Project groups need option to offer bug/question suggestions across projects" [Undecided,New]
[18:23] <kiko> yep
[18:23] <kiko> anyone +/- on that?
[18:24] <mpt> There are about 3~4 bug reports that tag could be used for, that I know of
[18:24] <statik_> i am in favor of all tags
[18:24] <kiko> it's a bit of rather unique functionality we have
[18:24] <kiko> and we have it in answers and in bugs
[18:24] <kiko> anyone strongly against it?
[18:24] <kiko> going
[18:25] <kiko> going
[18:25] <kiko> gone
[18:25] <kiko> okay, I'll self-approve that one. :)
[18:25] <SteveA> nice
[18:25] <kiko> [TOPIC]  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[18:25] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[18:25] <mthaddon> DB migration for staging and demo now complete
[18:25] <mthaddon> Feeds URLs should now be working correctly on demo
[18:25] <mthaddon> Working on missing bug report for intellectronica
[18:25] <mthaddon> Need to work on capturing coredumps for PQM
[18:26] <mthaddon> that's it from herb and myself unless there are any questions
[18:26] <danilos> how long will we be without production DB mirror?
[18:26] <danilos> SteveA: ^
[18:26] <mthaddon> danilos, that's up to SteveA and elmo to discuss
[18:26] <SteveA> we discussed it
[18:26] <mthaddon> danilos, but there's always staging
[18:27] <SteveA> I want you to use staging for this.  You'll need to arrange with kiko and joey when it's appropriate for you to do heavy lifting on staging.
[18:27] <kiko> danilos, does it need to be r/w?
[18:27] <kiko> mthaddon, are the last snags with updating staging finished?
[18:27] <danilos> kiko: yes, occasionally (when testing scripts like we want to do right now)
[18:27] <mthaddon> kiko, yes, all looking good now
[18:27] <kiko> mthaddon, quite a number of them -- whose fault is that?
[18:28] <mthaddon> kiko, mine :(
[18:28] <kiko> was our setup complicated?
[18:28] <kiko> or undocumented?
[18:28] <kiko> or something else?
[18:28] <mthaddon> kiko, just more complicated when the DB and app server are on different boxes
[18:28] <kiko> mthaddon, yeah, I can see how that is
[18:29] <kiko> [TOPIC]  * DBA report (stub)
[18:29] <MootBot> New Topic:   * DBA report (stub)
[18:29] <stub> AuthPersonSplit has been drafted and wants feedback. Nothing else to report this week.
[18:29] <mthaddon> kiko, since we want to restore the DB to a new DB, and then if that works, bring the app server down, rename the DB, rollout new code, bring the app server back up, etc.
[18:29] <carlos> danilos: you didn't wait for the RT section! :-P
[18:29] <danilos> carlos: you get to mention it there, and then in the 'Translations: blocked' :)
[18:29] <mthaddon> kiko, and we also have authserver and mailman to worry about - which we were before too, but the new script is a little more comprehensive
[18:30] <kiko> mthaddon, yeah, I can see how that is. congrats on getting it on!
[18:30] <kiko> stub, who do you want feedback from?
[18:30] <stub> barry, sabdfl, stevea, kiko, salgado (already done), francis
[18:30] <stub> And anyone else interested :)
[18:30] <kiko> stub, we could do a phone call tomorrow earlier, if you like?
[18:31] <kiko> [TOPIC] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[18:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[18:31]  * barry will try to provide said feedback soon
[18:31] <carlos> RT: #30167
[18:31] <Rinchen> Hi! Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent?
[18:31] <SteveA> I'm hungry
[18:31] <SteveA> I'll file an RT request
[18:31] <kiko> hmmm
[18:31] <Rinchen> back to you kiko
[18:31] <gmb> SteveA: Elmo will feed you shortly
[18:31] <stub> kiko: Read the spec first and see if a phone call is warrented. Hopefully I won't have to have calls with everyone :)
[18:32] <carlos> Rinchen: getting back a mirror to test data migration script for a regression in Dapper langauge packs
[18:32] <kiko> salgado, cprov: do you guys need RTs?
[18:32] <kiko> stub, we could have a confcall is my idea
[18:32] <mthaddon> SteveA, is RT 30167 obsolete based on your discussions?
[18:32] <flacoste> since most of us are in london
[18:32] <Rinchen> carlos, ok...send me the rt number in an email.
[18:32] <kiko> (for any of that packaging stuff)
[18:32] <cprov> kiko: no, it's all good.
[18:32] <Rinchen> please!
[18:32] <flacoste> apart barry and salgado - who already gave you feedback
[18:32] <carlos> Rinchen: ok
[18:32] <stub> kiko: ok. tomorrow.
[18:32] <kiko> cool
[18:32] <SteveA> mthaddon: is that to do with translations using a server?
[18:32] <kiko> stub, okay, will arrange -- thanks
[18:33] <kiko> [TOPIC] * New packages required (salgado)
[18:33] <MootBot> New Topic:  * New packages required (salgado)
[18:33] <mthaddon> SteveA, yeah, staging accounts for translations
[18:33] <salgado> if any of the branches you're working on right now  depends on any library which is not part of the launchpad-dependencies package, come talk to me ASAP.
[18:33] <SteveA> mthaddon: I disucssed it with kiko and elmo
[18:33] <kiko> mthaddon, let's chat about this in 5 minutes
[18:33] <mthaddon> cool
[18:33] <cprov> I'd like to know if we have a due date to migrate lp-dev default env to hardy.
[18:33] <kiko> any changes requiring new packages or a sourcecode update?
[18:33] <kiko> cprov, hmm, we don't yet. what's broken?
[18:33] <SteveA> mthaddon: and they can have staging accounts, but we'll need a process for them to agree when they're going to be doing r/w or resource intensive stuff
[18:33] <cprov> it will affect the alternatives for lp-dep package
[18:34] <cprov> kiko: on hardy we won't need any change in lp-dep.
[18:34] <kiko> I see.
[18:35] <kiko> well, remind salgado if you remember you need a package!
[18:35] <kiko> [TOPIC] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[18:35] <MootBot> New Topic:  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[18:35] <matsubara> proxying mrevell:
[18:35] <matsubara> User-affecting issue:
[18:35] <matsubara> Hello! Today's user affecting issue was raised during the Bazaar
[18:35] <matsubara> sprint here in London and is to do with splitting bug reports.
[18:35] <matsubara> If someone reports a bug and it turns out that the issue is actually
[18:35] <matsubara> caused by more than one bug, it would be useful to be able to split
[18:35] <matsubara> the bug report. This is essentially the same as creating a new bug
[18:35] <matsubara> report, except that this new process of splitting a bug would allow
[18:35] <matsubara> the splitter to choose which comments would move into the new bug.
[18:36] <kiko> matsubara, not a bad feature, though perhaps a client-side script that cloned a bug would be a mitigation step
[18:36] <kiko> it wouldn't remove comments
[18:36] <matsubara> And I'm looking for a volunteer or mentor for bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/196253. It's one line change fix but I have no idea how to test.
[18:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196253 in launchpad "OOPS importing pgp key" [High,New]
[18:36] <kiko> matsubara, cprov might be a good mentor for that?
[18:36] <mpt> That feature would be partly JavaScript, yes
[18:37] <cprov> matsubara: I can help you with that.
[18:37] <kiko> cool
[18:37] <mpt> it's reported as bug 158718, which is currently marked Low
[18:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 158718 in malone "ability to split bugs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158718
[18:37] <kiko> matsubara, can you relay that back as mrevell?
[18:37] <matsubara> cprov: ok. thanks. I'll chat with after the meeting
[18:37] <matsubara> kiko: sure thing.
[18:37] <matsubara> thanks mpt
[18:37] <cprov> matsubara: cool
[18:37] <kiko> [TOPIC] * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[18:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[18:37] <matsubara> proxying again:
[18:37] <matsubara> Hi. This week I've been down in London to take part in some of the
[18:37] <matsubara> Bazaar sprint and also to meet with members of the Launchpad team who
[18:37] <matsubara> have been here this week.
[18:37] <matsubara> The most important thing to come out of this for Launchpad
[18:37] <matsubara> documentation is that I've spoken with the Launchpad team leads. I've
[18:37] <matsubara> taken notes regarding the next few months of work on each of their
[18:37] <matsubara> parts of LP and this will feed into my user guide and new LP tour
[18:37] <matsubara> work.
[18:37] <matsubara> A new way of implementing context help in the LP UI has been discussed
[18:37] <matsubara> as well in London. mpt is planning to create mock-ups and a user
[18:37] <matsubara> experience description and I'm working to review our current UI text
[18:38] <matsubara> and produce new context sensitive help.
[18:38] <matsubara> Thanks.
[18:38] <kiko> okay, this is cool
[18:38] <kiko> nothing else to cover?
[18:38] <matsubara> nope, back to you kiko
[18:38] <kiko> [TOPIC]  * Blockers
[18:38] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Blockers
[18:38] <Rinchen> Releases Team: mpt blocked on foundations.
[18:38] <kiko> you know what to doooooooooooo
[18:38] <SteveA> SC: not blocked
[18:38] <thumper> code: not blocked
[18:38] <flacoste> Foundations: not blocked
[18:39] <kiko> flacoste, what is this blocked on foundations madness???
[18:39] <carlos> Translations: Blocked on RT #30167
[18:39] <flacoste> Rinchen: i'll unblock you tomorrow
[18:39] <BjornT> Bugs: not blocked
[18:39] <flacoste> Rinchen: actually, you're not blocked, you have other things to do :-)
[18:39] <gmb> Bugs team: not blocked
[18:39] <carlos> flacoste: is that my fault?
[18:39]  * gmb should read scrollback
[18:39] <flacoste> carlos: nope
[18:40] <adeuring> HWDB: not blocked
[18:40] <kiko> thanks adeuring
[18:40] <carlos> ok
[18:40] <kiko> carlos, that RT should me sorted out real quick.
[18:40] <flacoste> carlos: well, you're also a blocker eventually, but that's not the one he's referring to :-)
[18:40] <mpt> SteveA had this other word for "not blocked, but needing stuff from"
[18:40] <kiko> okay, thanks everyone
[18:40] <mpt> But I forget what that word was
[18:40] <kiko> see you again next week
[18:40] <kiko> #endmeeting
[18:40] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 18:40.
[18:40] <carlos> flacoste: that's what I suspected... :-P
[18:40] <stub> Bed time
[18:40] <carlos> flacoste, mpt: I will try to get that done tomorrow. At least started
[18:41]  * stub waves goodnight
[18:41] <kiko> night stub
[18:41] <mwhudson> thanks kiko
[18:41] <kiko> thanks mwhudson
[18:41] <flacoste> carlos: what was your next step?
[18:41] <carlos> kiko: is there anything I should do to get unblocked?
[18:41] <kiko> mwhudson, if you wanna call us tomorrow, let me know
[18:41] <kiko> carlos, no, I'll see to it with elmo
[18:41] <mpt> thanks carlos
[18:41] <carlos> kiko: ok, thank you
[18:41] <flacoste> carlos: is it the Navigation menu links?
[18:41] <mwhudson> kiko: well, i'll have a look-see today, and if i'm confused will hassle you when you get up :)
[18:41] <kiko> mwhudson, sounds good. thanks!
[18:41] <carlos> flacoste: take a look to current code, prepare an action plan and ask for a preimplementation call
[18:42] <carlos> flacoste: yeah
[18:42] <flacoste> carlos: ok, i discussed this with SteveA, so have a good idea of the solution, which is very easy actually
[18:42] <flacoste> carlos: we can discuss it tomorrow
[18:42] <carlos> flacoste: ok
[18:42] <carlos> flacoste: should we agree the time now?
[18:43] <flacoste> carlos: 15:30UTC?
[18:44] <carlos> flacoste: I need to be out of the office around that time
[18:44] <carlos> it needs to be earlier or much later...
[18:44] <flacoste> carlos: ok, let's see how it goes here tomorrow, otherwise, it probably have to be next week
[18:44] <flacoste> carlos: i'll try to find some time during a break in the morning discussions
[18:44] <carlos> ok
[18:45]  * statik_ curses the network
[18:45] <carlos> flacoste: thanks
[18:45] <statik_> lpcomm:लदू
[18:46] <statik_> lpcomm: not blocked
[18:47]  * statik_ goes downstairs to talk with the cable installers