[00:04] <mpt> Ubulette, https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation
[00:06] <Ubulette> ok so even if i'm the upstream author and the main packager, i get peanuts
[00:06] <Ubulette> not that i care much, it's just weird
[00:07] <mpt> If there's something Launchpad knows about but doesn't give you karma for, please report a bug.
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[00:08] <Ubulette> for that particular project, everything is on launchpad
[00:35] <synic> can anyone tell me why it's taking so long for this to get imported? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/exaile/release-0.2.12/+imports
[01:14] <jamesh> synic: the one entry there is marked as deleted
[01:15] <jamesh> synic: and you probably want a name other than messages.pot
[01:15] <synic> I'm trying to upload a messages.pot for people to download and translate
[01:16] <jamesh> yes, but you probably want to call it exaile.pot or similar, right?
[01:16] <jamesh> or whatever translation domain your application uses
[01:17] <synic> I've used messages.pot in the past and it was ok
[01:17] <synic> I can't mark it as not deleted.
[01:17] <synic> "Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request."
[01:19] <synic> anyway, I uploaded it on the 28th.  How long does it usually take?  I didn't mess with the status until today trying to figure out why it hadn't been imported yet.
[01:20] <jamesh> was it marked as deleted when you checked on it?
[01:20] <jamesh> you may need to re-upload it
[01:21] <jamesh> synic: in answer to your question about the delay, the first translations upload needs to be approved manually to make sure it is appropriate (correct translation domain, etc)
[01:22] <jamesh> synic: after the first approval, new templates with the same name will go through automatically
[01:30] <synic> hrmm.  I
[01:30] <synic> I've done this once with the release-0.2.11, but I guess that's not quite the same
[01:35] <jamesh> synic: are you simultaneously working on 0.2.11 and 0.2.12?
[01:35] <jamesh> and do you want people to be translating both release series at once?
[01:36] <synic> no, they already did 0.2.11
[01:36] <synic> it's done.
[01:36] <jamesh> why do you have a new release series then?
[01:37] <jamesh> it sounds like both releases belong on the same series
[01:38] <synic> yeah, that stuff is confusing.
[01:38] <jamesh> most projects only really use one release series
[01:38] <jamesh> the use case for multiple series is when you do maintenance releases
[01:39] <synic> I see
[01:39] <jamesh> e.g. after Gnome 2.20 came out, there were new maintenance releases numbered 2.20.x, and development releases numbered 2.21.x
[01:40] <jamesh> in this case, the 2.20.x releases would be on a different series than the trunk
[01:40] <jamesh> If you are just doing one sequential series of releases, use a single release series.
[01:40] <synic> ok, what would be the best way to fix this?  How do you have more than one branch per series?
[01:42] <jamesh> we don't have any support for linking a branch to a particular release from a series
[01:42] <synic> ok
[01:42] <jamesh> two options are: (1) create the branch and don't link it to anything, or (2) just create tags on the branch associated with the series when you make releases
[01:43] <jamesh> I've been doing (2) for my projects
[01:43] <synic> hrmm, I'll have to learn how to do tags then.
[01:43] <synic> alright, thanks :)
[01:43] <jamesh> "bzr tag TAG_NAME"
[01:44] <jamesh> and to diff against a tag, do "bzr diff -r tag:TAG_NAME"
[01:44] <synic> awesome
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #198963 in rosetta "Copy buttons are visible but useless with JavaScript off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198963
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #198964 in rosetta "Launchpad confuses same-named templates in different packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198964
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #198972 in launchpad-bazaar "ShortListTimeoutError on +project-cloud page " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198972
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #198978 in launchpad-bazaar "Translation string location should be hyperlinked if Launchpad hosts the code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198978
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #198979 in blueprint ""Edit specification branch summary" page has "no title"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198979
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #198980 in blueprint "Deleting blueprint-branch link gives no confirmation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198980
[02:41] <mpt> Ok, that's enough bugs reported for today
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #198982 in blueprint "Can't un-propose a blueprint for a meeting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198982
[02:42] <Hobbsee> mpt: tough.  fix them faster than they get filed then :)
[02:43] <mpt> How am I supposed to fix them, if I'm spending all my time reporting them? :-P
[02:45] <Hobbsee> then stop reporting :P
[02:45] <Hobbsee> or work faster.
[02:46] <jamesh> Hobbsee: could you confirm whether https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/196913 is a problem for you or not anymore?
[02:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196913 in launchpad-bazaar "Cannot lock LockDir(lp--1218658708:///~5-a-day/5-a-day-data/main/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #198983 in blueprint ""Accept for agenda...?" page has "no title"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198983
[02:48] <Hobbsee> jamesh: tomorrow i can, sure
[02:49] <Hobbsee> jamesh: can you remind me then?
[02:49] <jamesh> I will if I remember :)
[02:49] <Hobbsee> thanks
[02:49]  * Hobbsee is at uni today.  enolaptop, etc
[02:49] <Hobbsee> would prefer not to use gpg keys, etc, over that.
[07:48] <carlos> morning
[09:52] <poolie> hi
[09:52] <poolie> https://code.launchpad.net/emacs/main <- is this stuck in state 'processing'?
[09:59] <poolie> thumper ^^
[09:59] <thumper> poolie: lemmie check
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #199069 in launchpad "User profile pages should not be OpenID identities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199069
[10:01] <mgunes> hi, do I need to request a sync for an SVN import at the answer tracker? https://code.launchpad.net/todo.txt/trunk has been in "Testing" for a day.
[10:04] <poolie> mgunes: it should just happen, but i'll ask thumper about that too
[10:04] <mgunes> poolie, thanks
[10:04] <thumper> poolie: we have actually been asking people to ask
[10:05] <mgunes> thumper, shall I file a request?
[10:05] <thumper> mgunes: yes please
[10:28] <poolie> thumper: so what's up with the emacs one, does it need a poke?
[10:41] <thumper> poolie: connection timeout after 38k changesets
[10:41] <thumper> poolie: I've kicked it again
[10:42] <poolie> thanks
[10:43] <jamesh> thumper: sounds like some of the emacs developers have been trying to do a conversion too
[10:44] <jamesh> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/91339
[11:06] <damoxc> has anyone tried using nant in the buildprocess for ppas?
[12:39] <tbf> is there a way to drop/replace .orig tarballs in ppa?
[12:41] <tbf> i've uploaded some debian package made from some unreleased tarball for easy testing...
[12:42] <tbf> ...detected some issues in the unreleased code... made a new tarball and package...
[12:42] <tbf> ...and now ppa refuse the upload since the MD5 sum of the new tarball doesn't match the MD5 sum of the archived tarball
[12:56] <soren> Is it a known problem that the firt upload to a hardy ppa fails (chroot problem due to the repository does not have Packages files and as such, the apt-get update at the start fails)?
[12:57] <soren> cprov: ^^
[13:00] <tbf> oh, this time i was able to overwrite the tarball!? strange.
[13:12] <tbf> bah,no: i forgot to run "make dist"
[13:13] <cprov> soren: yes, it's known, let me point you to the bug
[13:13] <soren> cprov: No need.
[13:13] <soren> cprov: Just clicking rebuild fixes it.
[13:14] <tbf> well, how do i kill http://ppa.launchpad.net/openismus-team/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-lirc-properties/gnome-lirc-properties_0.2.3.orig.tar.gz?
[13:14] <soren> cprov: I just didn't want to remove the evidence of it, if you weren't aware.
[13:14] <soren> cprov: Thanks.
[13:14] <cprov> soren: okay, cool.
[13:16] <cprov> tbf: did you read the help on +delete-packages ? before explaining that to you I'm interested to know what is missing in there.
[13:16] <tbf> cprov: https://launchpad.net/~openismus-team/+archive/+delete-packages?
[13:17] <cprov> tbf: yes, there is a hidden help section/tab on the top-left corner 
[13:17] <tbf> cprov: oh, found it
[13:18] <tbf> cprov: do removing 0.2.3 will let 0.2.2 reappear?
[13:18] <damoxc> would anyone be able to help me with nant crashing out in the build process?
[13:18] <cprov> tbf: good, check the text and let me know if you have any doubt 
[13:18] <cprov> tbf: no, it won't
[13:18] <cprov> damoxc: what is 'nant' ?
[13:19] <tbf> cprov: nant - a .NET clone of Java's ant build tool
[13:20] <tbf> cprov: the "short message" and "releated files" sentense probably should be separate paragraphs...
[13:20] <cprov> tbf, damoxc: could you, please, post packaging questions in #ubuntu{-devel, -motu} ?
[13:21] <tbf> cprov: the help text starts very generic, so there is a high risk that people like me skip the entire paragraph, and miss the relevant information provided by those sentenses
[13:21] <cprov> tbf: fine, send and email with your suggestion to launchpad-users ML, I will update the text by request
[13:21] <tbf> cprov: the motu guess usually forward you to #launchpad, when it comes to PPA
[13:21] <cprov> tbf: I believe it's not true for "packaging" questions
[13:22] <tbf> cprov: you want to guess to how many mailing lists i am subscribed?
[13:22] <tbf> i don't think i'll subscribe to yet another one for such a minor suggestion
[13:23] <cprov> tbf: not more than me, I bet. File a bug or a question, whatever suits you better, then.
[13:58] <tbf> cprov: 40 mins later the .orig.tar.gz still is there... and i get this message
[13:58] <tbf> Rejected:
[13:58] <tbf> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[13:58] <tbf> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[13:59] <tbf> the help text clearly is wrong
[14:08] <slytherin> I want to add a upstream bug watch for a package in Ubuntu. Upstream bug tracker is gnome bugzilla. But I get this message - Please select the appropriate upstream project. This step can be avoided by updating the packaging information for vinagre (Ubuntu).
[14:13] <Adri2000> slytherin: the package needs to be registered in launchpad as a project
[14:13] <salgado> slytherin, if the upstream is already registered in launchpad you can go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/vinagre and tell Launchpad about it
[14:14] <salgado> slytherin, it doesn't seem to be registered, though, so you can just continue adding the bug watch and Launchpad will ask you to register it
[14:15] <slytherin> salgado: add bug watch using bug url?
[14:16] <salgado> slytherin, yes
[14:17] <slytherin> salgado: but where to add url? Idon't get a single page whhich says 'give me url' I will do the rest
[14:18] <salgado> slytherin, IIRC, it'll ask for the URL latter
[14:19] <slytherin> salgado: So does that mean when I say 'Also Affects' 'vinagre' it will create a project in launchpad and then ask me where the upstream bug tracker is?
[14:20] <salgado> slytherin, that's it, yes
[14:21] <slytherin> No something wrong here. I am getting very different response. It just says no such project as 'vinagre'. There is no prompt for registering. :-(
[14:21] <slytherin> Should Itry disabling beta redirection?
[14:21] <salgado> slytherin, what's the page you're looking at?
[14:22] <slytherin> I clicked 'Also Affects Project' for this bug - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vinagre/+bug/199116/
[14:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199116 in vinagre "Can not send 'Ctrl+Alt+Del'" [Undecided,New] 
[14:23] <salgado> slytherin, okay, that's a bug. you have to do a search in order to get the prompt to register it
[14:23] <salgado> there you'll get fields to enter the upstream details and the bug URL
[14:23] <slytherin> let me try
[14:27] <slytherin> Ok done. I always thought that adding bug watch was as simple as specifying bug url.
[14:27] <salgado> slytherin, it is when the upstream is already registered. if that's not the case then someone needs to register it
[14:28] <slytherin> why is it so complicated?
[14:31] <Adri2000> in bug #199014 's description, there is an url containing an email address. if the user is not identified, the email is hidden (replaced with some text) and the url is therefore broken. is this a known issue?
[14:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199014 in eric "python-xml removal: please drop/replace (build) dependencies" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199014 - Assigned to Scott Kitterman (kitterman)
[15:05] <mpt> Adri2000, if by "known issue" you mean reported in the bug tracker, then I don't think so.
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #199168 in launchpad "New mailing list notification has wrong subscription url" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199168
[16:22] <synic> is there a way to remove a series?
[16:29] <synic> kiko: is that something I have to request?
[17:14] <Adri2000> mpt: ok, I will report it then
[17:33] <kiko> synic, yeah
[17:58] <mpt> thumper, excellent, thanks
[18:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[18:00]  * thumper looks around
[18:01] <thumper> mpt: what?
[18:01] <mpt> thumper, fixing the blueprint links
[18:01] <thumper> mpt: fixed soon, still in pqm
[18:02] <mpt> yes, I see
[18:17] <jml> hello!
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #158361 in meta-lp-deps "launchpad-dependencies insufficient to run loggerhead" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158361
[18:42] <no0tic> hi, I need to upload few files and assign them to a project but I don't want to use bazaar because they are not under development, is there any other way to do that?
[19:05] <no0tic> I'd need to delete a release series, how can I do?
[19:06] <no0tic> (I now figured out how to upload "static" files)
[19:06] <andrea-bs> no0tic: you should file a question on Launchpad Answers
[19:06] <no0tic> andrea-bs, thanks ;)