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dohboyis anyone else having trouble with their wifi card with the latest build?02:22
secretlondonit's unlikely to affect all wificards, if we do have a prob it's much more likely to affect specific chipsets02:23
crimsun"latest build"?02:23
crimsunif you're running hardy, see the topic of #ubuntu+1.02:23
secretlondonI presume he means currently updated02:23
dohboythx02:23
secretlondonah that would be useful to know here too02:24
dohboyah, the topic in #ubuntu+1 explains everything.. thanks :)02:24
crimsunyep, that's why I set it.02:26
secretlondoncrimsun: is there a main bug for "network manager in hardy is broken"?03:07
crimsunyes03:09
secretlondon198971?03:11
secretlondonbug #19897103:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198971 in network-manager "[Hardy] Wireless broken with latests updates" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19897103:11
crimsun(yes, I just triaged it and its dupe)03:12
secretlondonok I've just set priority to 'high' on it to take it easier to find03:13
secretlondonit'll take a while for the fix to get out so we'll prob get loads of dupes03:13
crimsunthanks :)03:13
JimersonGood evening all.03:16
secretlondonevening03:18
JimersonI have been reading through the wiki and I am interested in trying to help with bug Triaging.03:19
secretlondoncool03:19
JimersonI was wondering how I could go about finding a mentor..03:19
secretlondonthere isn't a formal mentoring process although this channel is a good place to ask questions03:20
secretlondonthere is a hug day tomorrow which is a day dedicated to squashing bugs on particular packages03:20
JimersonI was reading about that.03:21
secretlondonthere will be more people around in the channel03:21
JimersonCan you point me in a good place to get started?03:21
JimersonAll the bugs I have seen so far someone has responded to.03:22
secretlondontomorrow there will be a list of bugs to work through03:22
secretlondonI think a hug day is a good place to start03:23
JimersonSounds good.03:23
secretlondonogra: main inclusion request filed on sdlpango to fix tuxtype ftbfs03:45
* techno_freak visits #ubuntu-bugs-announce03:58
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greg-gbug 16247005:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162470 in amarok "Amarok can't fast-forward FLAC files." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16247005:21
=== bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Hug Day! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080306 | Ubuntu BugSquad | Bug announcements have moved to #ubuntu-bugs-announce | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad
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elmargolbug #19151209:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191512 in nautilus "gnome displays nfs mounts on the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19151209:43
elmargolvery anoying bug09:43
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dholbachbdmurray, thekorn: hey guys, could it be that LPTask.remote is always 'False' in textbugs?10:19
thekorndholbach, hi, yes that's true,10:23
thekorni did not know the text interface gives us this information10:23
dholbachthekorn: oh I don't know either if that information is available :)10:24
dholbachthere's    watch: <url>10:24
thekorndholbach, ok, I will try to add this to the text mode10:28
* dholbach hugs thekorn10:28
dholbachbring it on!10:28
* thekorn hugs dholbach10:28
thekorndholbach, I think that's it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58584/10:43
dholbachthekorn: that looks great10:46
thekornok, let me commit it10:47
dholbachrock on10:47
thekornbdmurray, dholbach: pushed as revision 7310:49
dholbachthanks thekorn :)10:50
IulianHi11:47
techno_freakIulian, hi12:06
IulianHeya techno_freak12:09
IulianAnd heno12:09
henohey Iulian12:10
Iulianheno: Btw, did you get my last mail?12:14
IulianUhmm, I didn't see pedro recently, is he on vacation?12:14
henoIulian: I did. I'll activate it now12:15
henopedro is at a FOSS conference in Peru I think12:16
IulianMakes sense now.12:17
Iulianheno: Thanks.12:17
IulianWoahh!13:03
Iulianelmargol: Please fix your connection.13:04
techno_freakhe he13:08
qensehappy hug day!13:51
Gninesystem > preferences > screen resolution INOP | system > administration > screens and graphics INOP | 8.04 2.6.24-11-generic amd64 x86_6413:57
Gninenvidia proprietary driver in use13:58
affluxmorning14:01
qensetest: bug #114:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114:08
qensethat still works14:08
IulianIt works in all Ubuntu channels.14:12
qenseok14:13
qenseI didn't know that :), thx14:13
affluxHow to handle a bug in the kernel that has been fixed in 2.6.24 but someone likes to see a fix for 2.6.22?14:43
james_wafflux: you mean in gutsy?14:48
affluxI think so14:49
james_wafflux: what's the bug number?14:49
affluxjames_w: bug 19634014:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196340 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Unable to handle kernel paging request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19634014:49
james_wafflux: yeah, that's gutsy. That would require an SRU14:54
james_wI'm not sure what the kernel teams SRU policies are.14:55
affluxah, just found "KernelUpdates" in the wik14:56
afflux*wiki14:56
bdmurrayHello bug huggers!  It sure is nice and quiet here16:32
bdmurrayI meant w/o ubotu16:32
bdmurrayafflux: did you get your question about kernel SRUs answered?16:33
affluxhi brian16:34
bdmurrayhello16:35
affluxbasicly, yes. however I wasn't entirely sure how to handle this in the bug and I ran out of time16:35
bdmurrayIt sounds to me like they are running their own kernel, even with 2.6.22.  Did you get that impression?16:37
bdmurrayOkay, I read more.16:40
bdmurrayAnyway, kernel SRUs are very rare as a regression could impact everyone.16:42
Iulianbdmurray: Yes, indeed, much better without ubotu messages. :)16:45
affluxbdmurray: the custom kernel was my impression, too.16:48
bdmurrayI'm not certain how important it is in this case as he says its fixed in 2.6.24 and it isn't sru worthy.16:49
bdmurrayOne thing that might be interesting to know is which specifc kernel flavors he tested as they have different config options.16:50
bdmurrayogasawara: you just touched bug 196340 - can you tell from the oops report if the crash is specific to the vserver patches?17:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196340 in linux "Unable to handle kernel paging request" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19634017:12
ogasawarabdmurray: I can't tell with any certainty17:14
bdmurrayogasawara: okay, it seems like we would have heard about this before. would the specific kernel version matter or is generic sufficient?17:16
ogasawarabdmurray: I think he commented about the specific version17:17
ogasawara2.6.22-14.4717:18
bdmurrayDid I mean kernel flavor?17:18
bdmurrayThat changes the build options right?17:19
ogasawarabdmurray: yes, but I think generic should be fine17:19
bdmurrayokay, thanks!17:20
bdmurraycrimsun: does the alsa-info script reveal whether or not someone has l-u-m installed?17:48
bdmurrayogasawara: is there a xen version of 2.6.24 yet?  Where would I check myself?18:01
ogasawarathere is - linux-image-2.6.24-11-xen18:02
ogasawarabdmurray: ^^^18:02
bdmurrayogasawara: but there is no live CD with that kernel so they'd have to install to test hardy...18:05
ogasawarabdmurray: unfortunately yes18:05
bdmurraymabye we should add that under the stock reply on the hug day wiki page then18:06
ogasawarabdmurray: good idea18:06
bdmurraywhat about -rt that should be on ubuntu studio right?18:07
ogasawarabdmurray: not sure on that one, but I can check18:07
bdmurrayI'm not sure what their build cycle in regards to images is like18:08
ogasawarabdmurray: just checked the manifest and it looks like -rt is used18:09
bdmurrayogasawara: Uh, overclocking == weird things can happen right?18:15
ogasawarabdmurray: I'd think so18:16
bdmurrayogasawara: does "NCQ disabled due to excessive errors" sound familiar to you?18:59
ogasawarabdmurray: it does - which bug?19:00
bdmurraybug 156669 and bug 12127319:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156669 in linux-source-2.6.22 "SATA drive freezes when using LVM over dm-crypt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15666919:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121273 in linux-source-2.6.22 "kernel panic with dm-crypt/luks + lvm + xfs + ubuntu kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12127319:00
bdmurrayogasawara: I found bug 147858 related to ncq do you know what rtg's changelog comment means? "Add WD WD800ADFS NCQ horkage quirk support"19:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147858 in linux "western digital WD800ADFS ncq problems" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785819:39
ogasawarabdmurray: was added to the blacklist19:40
ogasawarabdmurray: that was the NCQ bug I was thinking of which seemed different from the two you referenced19:40
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* secretlondon has had some pizza and is ready to start on bugs :)21:38
greg-gpizza and bugs, a powerful combination21:38
secretlondonindeed!21:38
* Iulian is starving21:39
bdmurraymmm pizza21:39
greg-glook what you started secretlondon!21:39
secretlondon:)21:39
Nafallough21:39
Nafallo!pizza21:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pizza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:40
IulianYeah, you shouldn't say anything about it!21:40
IulianBad bad!21:40
Nafallostupid bot :-P21:40
secretlondonNafallo you said you had pizza yesterday21:40
Nafallosecretlondon: yea, exactly.21:40
Nafallosecretlondon: ! == not21:40
* secretlondon will be having pizza tomorrow too!21:40
secretlondonas I bought a big one21:40
bdmurrayogasawara: is there a pattern bad memory exhibits in a kernel call trace?21:42
ogasawarabdmurray: I don't know of any21:42
crimsunbdmurray: (RE: "does the alsa-info script reveal whether or not someone has l-u-m installed") yes, it does, but not directly21:54
crimsunbdmurray: it's normally fairly straightforward to ferret out by inspecting the reported kernel and alsa-driver versions21:55
crimsunbdmurray: granted, now that alsa is completely in l-u-m, we'll have to revisit the logic.  But for gutsy, at least, we can tell whether l-u-m and/or l-b-m are/is installed.21:56
bdmurraycrimsun: okay, I don't recall which bug I was specifically looking at22:06
bdmurrayogasawara: how do I know if a driver is in l-u-m or not?22:34
ogasawarabdmurray: you can look at the lum git tree22:35
bdmurraygitweb is hard22:37
ogra_cmpcbdmurray, dpkg -S /path/to/.ko22:38
bdmurrayogra_cmpc: thanks, that's a bit better22:39
bdmurrayogasawara: How would I check the upstream kernel to see if a PCI ID is supported by a driver?22:45
ogasawarabdmurray: I usually just inspect the driver in the upstream git tree22:46
ogasawarabdmurray: which driver and which pci id are you looking for?22:46
bdmurrayogasawara: and you have it checked out I guess?  cx88 and 1822:002322:47
ogasawarabdmurray: yup22:47
ogasawarabdmurray: just a sec, pulling in the latest changes22:48
ogasawarabdmurray: I'm not seeing it22:55
bdmurrayand what about 1421 033422:55
ogasawarabdmurray:                  .subvendor = 0x1421,22:56
ogasawara                .subdevice = 0x0334,22:56
ogasawara                .card      = CX88_BOARD_ADSTECH_DVB_T_PCI,22:56
bdmurraythat's in cx88-core?22:57
ogasawarabdmurray: cx88-cards.c22:57
bdmurrayright, I misclicked22:57
bdmurraydon't most drivers use the vendor and device id - not the subsystem?22:59
bdmurrayogasawara: what about 1002:00f9 ?23:06
ogasawarabdmurray: I don't see that vendor id, what vendor is it?23:07
ogasawarabdmurray: PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI?23:08
bdmurrayyeah, 14f1:880023:08
ogasawarabdmurray: I don't see 00f9, only 00f823:09
ogasawara                .subvendor = PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI,23:09
ogasawara                .subdevice = 0x00f8,23:09
ogasawara                .card      = CX88_BOARD_ATI_WONDER_PRO,23:09
ogasawarabdmurray: 14f1:8800 I don't see23:10
bdmurrayogasawara: do you have stock needs upstream reporting reply?23:21
ogasawarabdmurray: sorta, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies - last few sentences of the "Reporting Bugs Upstream" section23:22
ogasawarabdmurray: last few sentences of the first paragraph23:22
ogasawarabdmurray: are you wanting to add the new device id's?23:23
ogasawarabdmurray: I know the kernel guys will sometimes add them and then push the patch back upstream23:23
bdmurrayyeah, there is one I'm 90% certain of23:24
bdmurrayI mean I know it doesn't exist and it seems like it should23:24
ogasawarabdmurray: if you can post a comment summarizing id's should be added then let me know the lp bug # I'll add it to the kernel list for next week23:24
bdmurrayogasawara: its bug 11571923:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 115719 in linux-source-2.6.20 "CX23880 PCI Video and Audio Decoder insmod failure" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11571923:31
bdmurrayeh, I'll fix the summary too23:31
bdmurrayogasawara: I've found a bug that is fixed post 2.6.20.  Do you think it is worthing opening other affects for it just showing that it is fixed?23:42
ogasawarabdmurray: yah.  I typically open the task it was fixed against and mark it so23:42
ogasawarabdmurray: then I usually "won't fix" the older task assuming it's not a sru candidate23:43

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