[00:42] <Pelo> ok swat,  it was just a bit busy in there and I don'T have the patience tonight
[00:42] <swatTX> it was busy indeed
[00:42] <Pelo> swatTX, is there suppose to be anyting on your hdd or is it supposed to be clean
[00:43] <swatTX> Pelo, there is suppose to be something there but I'm assuimng (since GParted showed all unallocated) everything was lost somehow.
[00:43] <Pelo> swatTX, what was supposed to be there ?
[00:44] <swatTX> Pelo, my previous install
[00:44] <Pelo> swatTX, of ?
[00:44] <swatTX> Pelo, Ubuntu gusty gibbon
[00:45] <Pelo> swatTX, was that one a fresh install that went wrong or one that you had used a while with important data ?
[00:46] <swatTX> Pelo, I've had it for about a month nothing too important which is why i was gonna just fresh install again but am getting errors now
[00:46] <Pelo> ok
[00:46] <Pelo> go back to the live cd desktop , we are not going to do this from the installer
[00:47] <swatTX> Pelo, ok just exited the installer and am sitting at the live cd desktop
[00:47] <Pelo> ok
[00:47] <Pelo> open the gnome partiton editor from the admin menu
[00:47] <swatTX> ok GParted is loaded
[00:48] <Pelo> will there be anyting else on that hdd or just gutsy ?
[00:48] <swatTX> just gutsy
[00:48] <Pelo> ok now for that next bit you will need to fiigure it out on your own cause I don'T have gparted installed, and I can't check,  it's in french anyway so the translation migth be off
[00:49] <swatTX> ok
[00:49] <Pelo> check in the gparted menues for   make a new lable or something similar
[00:49] <Pelo> label
[00:49] <swatTX> Partition -> New ?
[00:50] <Pelo> swatTX,  not , new label,  we are starting from the very very bottom
[00:50] <swatTX> there is also set disklabel
[00:50] <Pelo> thats, the one
[00:50] <Pelo> msdos or something similar
[00:50] <Pelo> that will basicaly revirginise your hdd
[00:51] <swatTX> wow, 'Error while setting new disklabel'
[00:51] <Pelo> swatTX, interesting
[00:52] <Pelo> swatTX, ok there is the possibility that there is someting wrong with your hdd
[00:52] <Pelo> swatTX, how old is it ?
[00:52] <swatTX> Pelo, a few years.
[00:52] <swatTX> Pelo, now there's a crash report detected
[00:52] <Pelo> swatTX, well assuming it is less the 5 this shouldn'T happen
[00:53] <Pelo> swatTX,can you read the report ?
[00:53] <swatTX> Pelo, it was from GParted crashing... it's just asking me if i wanna restart the program
[00:53] <Pelo> swatTX, do this,  shut down the computer,  wait a couple of minutes ,  boot the live cd back up and come back here
[00:54] <swatTX> Pelo, ok
[00:54] <Pelo> I'll wait for you
[00:54] <swatTX> Pelo, shutting down now. thanks btw
[00:54] <Pelo> np
[00:55] <Pelo> swatTX,  is this another pc you are installing on ?
[00:56] <swatTX> Pelo, yea an old laptop
[00:56] <Pelo> ah, this explains why you can shut down and not leave
[00:56] <swatTX> Pelo, seems like whenever i try to install anything from the default i always endup at that initramfs screen
[00:57]  * Pelo needs to get himself one of them old laptops
[00:57] <swatTX> Pelo, (booting back up now to the live CD)
[00:57] <Pelo> swatTX, beleive it or not , I am not 1337 enough to know what an initramfs is
[00:58]  * Pelo just figured out what init RAM File system means 
[00:58] <swatTX> Pelo, me either... from what i can tell it's a shell that you get dropped into when something system critical is wrong.. i can just never get around it and usually end up doing a fresh install
[00:58] <Pelo> swatTX, when you get to the desktop go straight in to gparted,  no messing with the installer
[00:58] <swatTX> Pelo, gotcha
[00:59] <Pelo> swatTX, have you considered using the alternate install cd,  it is text based and is usualy easier on system resources during the install
[01:00] <swatTX> Pelo, I'm not sure i have a problem with system resources.. everything works great default. I haven't tried the alternate install cd though.
[01:01] <Pelo> the live cd uses part of the RAM as a virtual drive so it can run the lice cd desktop , it's a bit more demanding, it's also fussier about hardware for some reason
[01:01] <Pelo> anyway,  are you in gparted yet ?
[01:01] <swatTX> it's loading GParted now. just try the disklabel again?
[01:02] <Pelo> not quite yet
[01:02] <Pelo> anyting showing on the hdd ?
[01:02] <Pelo> any partions or stuff ?
[01:02] <swatTX> nope. still 74.56GiB unallocated
[01:02] <Pelo> ok  disklabel then
[01:03] <Pelo> you'll need to pick the msdos thingy in disklable when asked
[01:05] <swatTX> GParted crashed again
[01:05] <Pelo> hmmm
[01:06] <Pelo> ok restart gparted, and go straight to making a new partiton  5-10 gig ext3 for /
[01:06] <Pelo> and apply right away
[01:07] <swatTX> not sure what's going on. i went to Partition -> New and it took me to the disklabel screen again and then crashed
[01:08] <Pelo> ok restart the comp and head into the bios, see if you have the option to low format your hdd anywhre in there
[01:09] <swatTX> restarting now
[01:09] <swatTX> in BIOS but dont see any formating options
[01:10] <Pelo> ok here is what I can suggest at this point
[01:10] <Pelo> you can try getting the gparted live cd online and boot from that , see if you can partition your hdd properly from that ,
[01:10] <Pelo> or you can take yoru comp in to have it check by a pro
[01:11] <Pelo> there isn't anything more that I know to do to help you out online
[01:11] <swatTX> thanks for trying....
[01:11] <swatTX> its probably a bad HD
[01:11]  * Pelo feels like a failuer
[01:12] <Pelo> that would be my guess
[01:12] <Pelo> best of luck , I'm heading off, work early tomorry
[01:12] <Pelo> tomorrow
[01:12] <Pelo> damit
[01:12] <Pelo> g'night
[01:12] <swatTX> g'night. thanks again