[06:52] <pegwin> hi all
[16:00] <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem
[16:02] <TokyoFrench> Hello there!
[16:03] <gan> i am following the ubuntu doc of creating the live cd , but not supporting , it is coming upto mounting the filesystem
[16:04] <TokyoFrench> Just to say I am planning to install Ubuntu on an Hitachi FLORA 270HX laptop which is old laptop
[16:05] <TokyoFrench> I have 128 Mo RAM, so not too sure if I can install the Ubuntu or if I should prefere XUbuntu...
[16:05] <TokyoFrench> anyway when I installed stackware I had to use some kernel options like noacpi (if I remember correctly)
[16:06] <TokyoFrench> And I don't see this laptop listed on the ubuntu webpage.... so, just hope it'll work
[16:06] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, Xubuntu will barely be functional, but will work
[16:07] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, I'd suggest installing a "command line" system only from the alternate disk, then adding the xubuntu-desktop package
[16:07] <gan> livecd which i created based on ubuntu is not booting on laptop
[16:07] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, you may also consider openbox, there have been quite some posts about it on different blogs
[16:08] <MagicFab> gan, brand & model ?
[16:08] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: Thanks for the tips!
[16:08] <gan> MagicFab, thinkpad IBM
[16:09] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, also see some draft notes I have here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez/DefaultInstall
[16:10] <MagicFab> gan, see http://www.thinkwiki.org for great tips on thinkpads
[16:10] <MagicFab> gan, what exact TP model ?
[16:11] <MagicFab> gan, have you tried the latest hardy alpha ? a *lot* has improved for laptops
[16:11] <gan> MagicFab, no
[16:13] <MagicFab> gan, you may want to base your liveCD on Hardy if you' re targetting laptops - just my personal opinion
[16:13] <gan> MagicFab, ok
[16:15] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: so my understanding is that installing command line system and then xubuntu-desktop will actually install less package than directly installing XUbuntu, and thus making a lighter system..?
[16:15] <MagicFab> no, TokyoFrench
[16:15] <MagicFab> it will install exactly the same
[16:15] <MagicFab> except you can use that same CD to install other Ubuntu flavors (like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc)
[16:16] <TokyoFrench> Mmm ok.. so the point is just testing the different flavors?
[16:16] <MagicFab> And in my personal experience, installing with the text based installler on older machines ALWAYS works, as opposed to using the standard live CD
[16:16] <TokyoFrench> ok
[16:18] <MagicFab> oups compiz crash :)
[16:18] <TokyoFrench> Thank you for helping. I really look forward to install this Ubuntu (I never tested before), cause I am too much a newbie for slackware haha
[16:18] <MagicFab> the point is install in ~20 minutes (text install, minimal system) then choosing whatever flavor you want and knowing nothing will crash or hang (graphcis specifically) later on
[16:19] <MagicFab> installing on 128ram will take a looooong time using the liveCD
[16:19] <TokyoFrench> sounds great
[16:19] <MagicFab> and if you're experimenting taht time adds up :)
[16:20] <TokyoFrench> :)
[16:20] <MagicFab> I am upgrading my system so I expect to loose my connection - brb
[16:20] <TokyoFrench> sorry if it's not the channel topic, but do you know if ubuntu is able to manage encrypted partitions? (cryptsetup)
[16:21] <MagicFab> Yes... well at install time the only option that works is encrypting everything
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> haha I like that
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> I alre
[16:21] <MagicFab> If you want to do it after install time it's still a rather manual-ish procedure
[16:21] <TokyoFrench> I never tried Ubuntu but I already love it ;-)
[16:22] <MagicFab> If you encrypt all as suggested in the partition manager during install time, you get a nice prompt at boot time asking for the password
[16:22] <TokyoFrench> great... but encryption doesn't slow general performances too much?
[16:22] <MagicFab> I have been using that on my main laptop for ~8 months and never had problems even when the machine was turned off brutally (battery drain)
[16:23] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, on an older machine, you can feel performance drops specially if you encrypt your swap partition (because, well, swap is used often on very low memory conditions)
[16:23] <MagicFab> but on recent systems is not noticeable
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> yep... I actually plan to crypt one partition, that will generally be not mounted, and when I need it to be mounted, to unable the cache...
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the cash
[16:24] <TokyoFrench> I mean disable the Swap.... haha I should go to bed
[16:25] <MagicFab> Funny: todays update of Network manager includes this: " #432322 - network-manager: package upgrade kills network connections every time"
[16:25] <MagicFab> TokyoFrench, the easiest way to do that I foujnd was.... wait...
[16:25] <MagicFab> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/24/use-an-encrypted-usb-drivepartition/
[16:26] <MagicFab> read all the comments, though
[16:26] <TokyoFrench> yep thks
[16:42] <TokyoFrench> lol et bien, ca chauffe sur certains forums ubuntu ;-)
[16:43] <TokyoFrench> MagicFab: thank you for your help, I will follow your advices
[16:43] <TokyoFrench> bybye