[00:00] pwnguin: because the last N times, people were waiting to see it posted. [00:01] The release schedule page hasn't even been updated yet, just the actual drop. [00:01] openoffice.org package is still broken for everyone? [00:02] again? I had it working after the last OpenOffice packaging snafu. [00:07] Dang SCIM eats my space if I'm typing with Shift held down. [00:08] My friend next to me is actually just having SCIM issues too. [00:10] is the alpha 6 release in the repos? if so, how long has it been there? [00:11] SCIM is cool, but not when it eats spaces, and not when ctrl-shift is the binding to change input methods. [00:11] naught101: alpha 6 isn't in the repos at all - the repository has no idea of the alphas. [00:12] Try typing something like: Ineed to go to .... [00:12] see, it ate the space! [00:13] RAOF, ok, let me rephrase: is alpha 6 using all the same versions of packages that are currently in the repos, or is it ahead (or behind)? [00:13] Ihate when SCIMeats the space. [00:13] It cannot be ahead; the alphas are just a snapshot of the repository at a specific point in time. [00:13] ok. is it already behind? [00:14] naught101: It's probably behind, in that running "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade" will likely bring in updated packages. [00:14] ok [00:14] this is killing me [00:14] not literally.. [00:15] The alphas serve 2 main purposes: to test the installer, and to give new people a (pretty much) known-working way to install. [00:15] If you've already got Hardy installed, you don't care about the alphas at all. [00:16] Also try pressing and releasing 'ctrl' -- the SCIM thingy changes size. It's quite distracting. [00:19] Is there anyway to fix a panel that doesn't hide anymore? It usually gets stuck. [00:19] Bang on it, perhaps? [00:19] (lame joke.) [00:20] I know killall gnome-panel fixes it, but is there more of a fix that will last longer than 3 minutes. =P [00:20] It's probably a gnome issue anyway [00:20] * J-_laptop shrugs [00:20] RAOF: i always reinstall anyway :) [00:21] Panels don't slide very far out, either. It looks more like they've slipped off the screen accidentally than like they're auto-hiding. [00:21] RAOF: of course, if i was using it on a physical machine instead of a VM, it would be different [00:22] gnome-panel's auto hide is the shitties auto hide ever. [00:23] holy smokes found another thing. I put my home folder on a panel and the icon looks all gross. Unless it's just my theme. [00:25] nope it isn't [00:25] every theme. [00:25] The Places->Bookmarks thingy is fugly. [00:25] s/thingy/icon/ [00:28] * J-_laptop goes into gconf-editor and tweaks some stuff [00:30] I also found that making a completely new panel in gutsy helped with the stickiness. Not sure why. Not sure if it'll work in hardy [00:30] I'll try [00:37] Wow, that SCIM toolbar is distracting. Try pressing and releasing 'ctrl'. [00:38] And it doesn't snap to things. That's annoying. [00:42] hi [00:43] are there any estimates as to when ndiswrapper will be working with hardy's 2.6.24 kernel? [00:43] DanaG: Yeah, I got rid of it after it got annoying =P [00:47] ah yeah, went to move an icon on the panel, and now there's a border around it like with that home icon ordeal. I shall restart and see if it fixes [00:51] hi can any 1 help me on here [00:51] just wanting to kknow if ya can change gui on ubuntu ? [00:52] soul_reaver_ffx: What do you mean? [00:52] neat [00:53] nautilus can finally run mplayer on files accessed by smb [00:53] gvfs ftw [00:53] Yay! [00:55] i know on older verwsion of linux etc ya can put diffrent user interfaces on like gnome etc can ya change the unbutu or do ya have to gnome ? [00:56] soul_reaver_ffx: Yes, you can do whatever you'd like with it. You can have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu (andmore) all sitting on the same Linux install [00:56] soul_reaver_ffx: you can change [00:56] soul_reaver_ffx: You can install KDE if you like. Or XFCE. Or E17, or whatever [00:58] wasent sure weather ya could im learning is it easy to do ? not used any version of linux for sume years now so it learning all againe [00:59] soul_reaver_ffx: its very easy. After you install Ubuntu, if you want to add KDE to it, just install the "kubuntu-desktop" package. [01:00] soul_reaver_ffx: you probably shouldn't be on Hardy at the moment, as it's still alpha. And also, general support is in #ubuntu [01:01] thanks [01:13] Bug 193561 [01:13] Launchpad bug 193561 in rhythmbox "MTP plugin lacks proper permissions to interface with device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193561 [01:27] Pidgin + Suspend == fail. [01:27] Miserably. [01:28] It shouldn't take 5 minutes for a chat application to realize I've been disconnected for the past 5 minutes. [01:28] ALPHA 6 FEVER!:D [01:28] DanaG: you can probably change the timeout, its probably set to 300 seconds, thats fairly standard [01:30] is there a countdown timer? I have a small henkel trocken ready [01:31] Rhythmbox is sucking pretty hard on Alpha 6. [01:32] I tend to go with amarok since it allows me to que up podcasts for transfer and then move 'em when my player is connected [01:33] Also, I tried evolution for the first time yesterday and oh my, it's really really nice!:) [01:33] Wow, Ubuntu really does abuse my hard drive ... 2 load cycles in 30 seconds. [01:33] DanaG pidgin can be slow to realise you are offline sometimes, i find this varies on network though? [01:33] I don't see why it's been getting so much flack. Bad history? [01:33] I'm hearing the drive load and unload literally every 5 or 10 seconds. [01:36] pdflush and kblockd are one thing causing it. [01:38] alpha 6 isnt linked to the hardy heron release schedule wiki [01:39] or do the isos simply not exist yet?:) [01:39] 8 cycles in two minutes. [01:40] Oh btw... this SCIM thing [01:41] It just loves to switch my keyboard layout and character set to armenian [01:42] my brother came over, and I'm like, "check out my new laptop, watch these squirrels fight on youtube" and my brother goes, "you flippin(other word) geek, spend $1000 on a laptop to watch squirrels fight?". [01:42] I had a chuckle over it. [01:42] hah [01:43] 8600gt? [01:43] my SCIM is disabled. =P [01:43] :P [01:43] alpha 6 is released, correct? [01:44] I'm not knowing. My lappy runs really nice right now. I don't want to update. [01:44] Well, I do and don't. lol [01:44] Tis running very nicely now [01:45] ader10, if you find a link, please do share [01:47] i updated - and got some issues wity my nvidia drivers, and kernel now. :() [01:47] when I plug in a flash disk encrypted with dm-crypt/LUKS the volume manager decrypts it but dose not mount it, is there a way to do this automatically [01:48] and is there a gui for encrytping things like flash drives etc.... [01:51] ader10 and richard__: they're all there. just not linked from the wiki. [01:51] :O [01:52] alpha 6 fever!! [01:52] richard__: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-6/ [01:52] :D [01:52] yeah, it's mentioned on the hardy release page [01:52] thank you! :D === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [02:01] Here's something odd on my laptop: my hard drive won't spin down when idle. Instead, it just unloads the heads. [02:02] There must be some ATA commands swapped in the kernel, perhaps. [02:03] Here's something odd on my laptop: my hard drive won't spin down when idle. Instead, it just unloads the heads. [02:03] There must be some ATA commands swapped in the kernel, perhaps. [02:04] (sorry if I repeated it; I think pidgin may have been zombified.) [02:13] DanaG: how are you checking the drive status? [02:14] DanaG: and, if necessary, open a bug report. [02:19] hi all [02:20] what kind of fun stuff is the new hardy herron going to bring [02:25] hi, installed hardy last night (works great!) compiz works fine, i have the wall etc. but after installing advanced desktop settings manager, i don't get the option for 'custom' settings when right clicking the desktop, so though i have the cube etc set up, it is not activated, is this a known issue? [02:30] after installing hardy into a chroot using 'debootstrap', is there any way of booting it? [02:30] it's not on its own partition [02:32] do I need pulseaudio on both my desktop and laptop to stream cesktop to laptop over internal ip, or can I do that with ssh as well? [02:33] dooglus: you wouldn't "boot" into it per se; you'd chroot into it and go about your hardy business. [02:37] hello there. Ive got a notebook which has a hotkey to disable/enable bluetooth/wireless and id like to know how to manually setup those, as theyre not working. kern log even shows that the event is captured, by enabling the wireless. The problem is that it only enables it, every keypress. Any clues? [02:39] crimsun: what would I set "DISPLAY" to be? [02:39] ( Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 ) [02:41] dooglus: here, let me give you a reference from Debian. [02:41] (sec) [02:42] dooglus: cf. 8.6.35.3 at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot [02:43] no mention of DISPLAY there? [02:43] oh, 8.6... [02:45] I don't want ot run the hardy X server (I don't have it installed, even). I just want to run X client programs. [02:46] Hi All ...I did the upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy when it was in Alpha 5 stage ... will I be "up to date" by only doing ordinary update? [02:46] Or it is necessery to do something else? [02:46] to get Alpha 6 [02:46] ? [02:47] Milos_SD: using update-manager or dist-upgrade suffices [02:47] Milos_SD: just keep upgrading til final ;] [02:47] thanks :) [02:47] only 7 more weeks ;] [02:48] dooglus: even when you use xauth? [02:48] biggahed_: which laptop? I know where the toggle is for bluetooth on a Thinkpad. [02:50] crimsun: I think I missed the first half of your question. what even when I use xauth? [02:50] 21:39 dooglus > ( Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 ) [02:50] crimsun: I don't know xauth [02:50] dooglus: i.e., with some xauth hackery between the chroot and host [02:51] NoelJB, its a poors man thinkpad. a lenovo c200 [02:51] but i think the kb scheme is the same [02:51] biggahed_: then see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_setup_Bluetooth [02:51] ive seen that, the problem is i dont have a /proc/acpi/ibm/whateaver listed :/ [02:52] dooglus: xauth is the correct way instead of (ab)using xhost [02:52] dooglus: there's also ssh -Y localhost [02:52] and i couldnt find anything resembling bluetooth there [02:55] kernlog even shows that the event is captured and enables wireless. The problem is that it only enables it, every keypress... it doenst disable it and bluetooth is not mentioned at all [02:56] any clues? :) [02:56] biggahed_: unfortunately, I can't reboot into Hardy to check until I've finished duplicating a 1TB drive. [02:57] but what would you check? im fine with just that info [02:58] I've a T61p, and would check against mine. [02:58] oh [02:59] thanks anyway. ill bother you tomorrow or something :) [03:00] :) [03:01] biggahed_: FWIW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_8922AZG [03:02] biggahed_: also: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-how-enable-bluetooth-in-Lenovo-3000-C200-p14573383.html [03:03] Which leads me to believe that there may be a support issue, and you will need to file bug reports and hope to get the right people's attention. [03:05] that second links seems promissing [03:07] i guess ill have to file a bug report [03:08] problem is, mine is a br variant... dont anyone will be able to help with that [03:11] i got some problems with the Adobe Crash plugin [03:11] 64bit Hardy [03:12] alteregoa: there is an existing bug for it. but it ought to have been fixed. Are you using Alpha 6? [03:12] oh wait ... the fix is a download from that bug report ... let me get you the link. [03:12] yeah [03:18] there is a gonzo blog, should i try it from it? [03:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/177856/comments/13 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/179882/comments/17 [03:19] Launchpad bug 177856 in nspluginwrapper "Gutsy 64: nspluginwrapper errors with flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.115" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:19] go for the latter of the two, if you don't already have at least that level. [03:20] alteregoa: or are you having a different crash with Adobe Flash? [03:23] i still wait if it happens again [03:23] maybe logic [03:23] well, there are some fnords behind the closed source lines [03:28] Bueno, recuerdo, Siempre contestan en espagnol, Senor Butthead: "como es juan" aammm? Burritos?, no senor butthead?! como es juan!? "Cruncumulle" [03:36] What more is here? [03:36] emma, you just missed it :) [03:39] emma: ? [03:40] Yes? [03:40] Is this channel also being recorded by the IRSeek corporation? [03:41] emma: you may assume all channels are [03:41] i see you're not using your 'real name' field to it's best advantage [03:42] I'll have to see how I can do that. [03:42] That's a client thing? [03:42] Does that show up to the corporate loggers? [03:42] yes, your 'real name' field [03:42] it shows up to everyone [03:44] I've never been able to get SCIM working properly, but man this past update made it work flawlessly [03:45] so yeah just wanted to say WOOHOO, so, WOOHOO!!! [03:49] Yeah, SCIM has never worked for me. I should re-install it so I can use it properly. [03:51] I don't see the IRSeekBot in here. [03:51] Oh crap there it is. [03:56] scim works yes [03:56] it is pretty good [03:56] a bit buggy/crashy [03:57] haven't tried it on hardy yet [03:57] so, no fix for wifi out yet? [03:58] wifi is broken? [03:59] wifi is broken [04:00] what card? [04:00] mine is fine [04:00] i installed regular updates this morning and my madwifi drivers broke [04:00] ah madwifi i dunno [04:00] it's an intel mumble mumble card [04:01] 0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5418 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) [04:01] MFen: Wifi's fixed. [04:01] And it's not an Intel card, it's Atheros. [04:01] yeah, i thought it was intel [04:01] Oh, madwifi might be broken. [04:01] Network-manager was broken earlier. [04:01] really? [04:01] how much earlier? this breakage occurred this morning [04:02] i have weird network b0rkage on my gusty [04:02] i just did another update now and nothing network-related came over [04:02] but my hardy's fine [04:09] maybe i should downgrade back to gutsy [04:09] trying to run a macbook pro on hardy has just been a hassle [04:10] it works almost all the time, but i really can't be without network for another day [04:12] pc went to sleep, it didn't start while I pressed any buttons but I pushed the power button and it woke [04:15] does hardy 64bit still use the modprobe/option file? [04:15] Yes [04:16] cuase it keeps bypassing or not using an option for the forcedeth module [04:17] which i need to networking [04:18] You're talking about /etc/modprobe.d/options, right? [04:18] yes [04:19] this is what i have in that file options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 [04:19] without my networking never connects [04:20] so once i'm in my desktop i have to issues the commands in a terminal [04:20] it worked in the 32 bit version of hardy [04:21] is app-level volume control going into hardy anytime soon? [04:22] teethdood: It has been for ages. [04:22] teethdood: And by "ages" I mean "since Feisty", or possibly earlier. [04:23] hmm I thought it's only possible due to PulseAudio [04:23] so i'm trying to figure out why [04:23] hmm. when will a gui method of app-level volume control be available? [04:23] teethdood: It is indeed. Pulseaudio has been in Ubuntu since at least Feisty :) [04:24] DarkMageZ: Again, already. [04:24] hmm. when i get home i'm going to have to test your comment there. i don't recall seeing it. [04:24] RAOF: alright I guess I'll look up the package :) [04:24] The packages that everyone is after are pulled in by the 'paprefs' or somesuch package. [04:25] The one that you're particularly after is 'pavucontrol', which brings in the pulseaudio volume control. [04:25] oh, so it's not part of the default install ? [04:25] RAOF: how come it's not installed by default? [04:26] no-wonder i haven't seen it. [04:26] Because it's kinda evil on the UI front. [04:26] look @ how vista deployed it. awesomeness. [04:26] vista deployed PulseAudio?!? [04:26] app-level volume control on the gui front. [04:27] DarkMageZ: oh ok...never used Vista...people scared me away from even trying it :) [04:28] people also tried similar scare campaigns against windows xp... [04:33] RAOF: I only see Adobe Flash in the list of apps in pavucontrol. How do I add more apps in there? hmm guess I'll hit the forums [04:33] teethdood: While an app is producing sound, it goes in that list. [04:34] If you fire up rhythmbox and set it to playing, you'll get a rhythmbox entry there. [04:34] RAOF: ah yes...good man thanks [04:35] Note that you can also do funky things from there, such as moving streams to different output devices - I use this to send rhythmbox to my server connected to the stereo, for example. === credible_ is now known as credible [04:37] RAOF: wow I read up on the possibilities of PulseAudio but didn't know it would be so easy [04:38] RAOF: well not THAT easy...I guess I would need to add a "Virtual Server" or something? [04:38] cuz I only see one device in the Output list [04:38] teethdood: No. You'd be looking for System->Preferences->Pulseaudio Preferences [04:39] RAOF: alright I need to hunt down that paprefs package then :) [04:39] hey all [04:39] teethdood: There are a variety of "enable network access" options. Turn them on, on your machine and the server, and the server's sound device(s) turn up in the context menu. [04:39] how hardy coming along? [04:40] I haven't seen any theme changes yet [04:40] RAOF: so does that mean I can enable my 10 networked comps to play the same stream coming off of one computer? sweet [04:42] teethdood: For that you'd need to use the multicast RTP output, but yes. [04:43] (Otherwise it's a simple point-to-point mapping) [04:44] okay i'm i missing something silly what happened to system/administratio/login screen? [04:47] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> is kde4.0.2 in the repo? [04:48] RAOF: ok silly question, but...say all 11 of my computers are all wireless. Does that stream have to be sent out to all 10 other comps? (meaning X10 bandwidth?) [04:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> teethdood, it's not calculated like that actually.. [04:49] teethdood: Using the multicast sink, kinda. [04:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> really? [04:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> wow [04:50] how do u change the login screen in hardy? [04:50] Actually, that's a lie. I'm not entirely sure how multicast interacts with wireless. [04:51] It's possible (and, in fact, probable if things are set up right) that it does, indeed, only go out once. [04:51] I need to track that answer down cuz I'm building an office right now, deciding whether to go GigE or WiFi [04:52] GigE can be _substantially_ faster, but even 100Mbit/sec ethernet is likely to be faster than wifi - wifi is shared bandwidth. [04:53] wifi N is what, 300Mbits? [04:53] 450ish, theoretical or so. [04:54] Shared over /n/ computers... [04:55] RAOF: here's the thing, I don't want to run TV cable wires to put up TVs in each operatory (I'm a dentist), so I want to do audio/video over the network to computers instead [04:57] and I'm hoping to do streaming like how PulseAudio multicast, but with video also, so I can control all 10 monitors over what content I want played [04:57] question is, can wifi N handle the bandwidth? [04:58] that's probably asking for too much [04:58] teethdood: You'd be better off contacting a professional. Wifi n could presumably, theoretically handle the bandwidth, but you'll obviously be pushing out compressed a/v to a local computer, which drives the TV. [05:00] RAOF: it won't actually be TV TV, but a DVD or something. I would play that DVD on one computer and have that streamed to all 10 other comps === credible_ is now known as credible [05:01] That seems possible. Again, you'd want to contact a professional; you want to know this works before you pay for it :) [05:03] a professional would push me toward running coaxial cables for TVs :P [05:06] does anybody know how to open port 22? [05:07] Howdy all, I upgrd to Hardy (64b) frm 7.10 (64b). Nautilus is not running & asking for libbeagle. I see libeagle1 for Hardy but no libbeagle. Pls help! [05:10] sorry those should be libbeagle $ libbeagle1. [05:12] * DanaG wishes his hard drive would stop load-cycling. [05:15] Oh hey, I think the suspend and sleep commands must really be reversed. Do man hdparm, and look at -y and -Y. The former spins down; the latter does not. [05:27] hopefullly this is a simple fix. I have Sun Jave 6 plugin installed. I try to use java in firefox and am told I need o install the plugin. I tell it to go on, and it liste Icedtea, sun java 5 and sun java 6. I pick sun java 6 and am told it is already installed (DUHHH) and to restart the browser. I do, and same trouble. I pick sun java 5 this time, and let it install, and restart the browser. Same result.... [05:27] i386 [05:27] and Firefox 3 [05:37] WorkingOnWise: about:plugins, does it show java? [05:38] Flannel: no it doesn't. odd.... [05:39] WorkingOnWise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-7f353d2f3fb1a09aac09cf1caee565e897319306 Try some of the manual .so linking methods there [05:39] WorkingOnWise: (and file a bug) [05:39] ok i know there's a bug where pausing one audio source doesnt allow you to play another, but i closed the first audio source (rhythmbox) and i still got no flash sound. and then i closed that tab in firefox and re-opened rhythmbox and stuff won't play...the progress bar won't even move. anyone seen this? [05:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> macogw, i guess u have to kill one of them [05:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> or murder both [05:41] i closed both though [05:41] do you think their processes zombie'd? [05:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> not zombie'd [05:41] sorry cant type fast while i paint my nails [05:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> close != kill [05:41] Flannel: thanks [05:42] it should [05:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> it shouldn't [05:42] why not? [05:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> ... [05:42] having to pkill firefox after youve already closed it is annoying [05:43] but after you close it if you try to reopen it it complains its already running...im sure that has to confuse people [05:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> which mean's it's not killed [05:43] and thats dumb [05:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> sudo killall -9 firefox [05:44] when you exit an app, it should die [05:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> any try to play ur music [05:44] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> i dont know im not developing ff [05:45] ok now rhythmbox works, but killing ff shouldnt be needed to get flash to let go of the audio...but heck, flash never *had* the audio because rhythmbox never relinquished it to flash [05:46] this is definitely a regression [05:46] the "only one at a time" bug wasnt present on this hardware before [05:49] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> my flash works fine with rythmbox [05:52] mine used to [05:52] i guess while trying to fix some other hda chip mine got broke [05:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> macogw, actually if u open the flash first, then open rhythmbox, it would work [05:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> macogw, anyway, it's a bug [05:54] yeah [05:57] macogw: audio is funky nowadays. It would work, then I closed the laptop lid (always on no hibernation), 5 min later audio is borked [05:59] Damnit, my keyboard got b0rked again. [06:01] RAOF: wikipedia says wifi N is 300Mbit/s max :P I was right [06:01] * RAOF goes to revise wikipaedia :P [06:02] HA! you know on average a vandalized wiki page gets reversed within 1 minute [06:03] does KDE 4.0.2 included in Kubuntu-KDE4 alpha 6? (or still 4.0.1) [06:03] * macogw spilled hot pink nail polish on the laptop [06:03] dunno if that's true but someone said it in slashdot (pinch of salt) [06:09] does desktop effects now work in Kubuntu-KDE4 alpha 6? [06:12] kyklone: Probably. Why don't you try? :) [06:13] 4 hours to download [06:13] and i have only 2 CD-RWs for ubuntu alpha 6 and kubuntu alpha 6 [06:14] It's probably faster to upgrade, of course... [06:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kyklone, it should work [06:15] ok [06:16] yoyu can install kde4 in either ubuntu alpha6 or kubuntu alpha6 [06:16] If they're RWs, why don't you try one, then try the other? [06:17] and then re-use them because thats what RW's are for [06:17] If you use one to install, then download the other's alternate CD, you can use the CD as a repository to add the second [06:17] this will be not "clean" expirience and i will not test what software supplied, since i will have all software [06:17] * [Hardy]TuTUXG hates cd/dve rw s [06:18] * [Hardy]TuTUXG hates optical drives generally [06:19] what then? mmm, can you boot form memory cards? (not flash drives) [06:19] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kyklone, if ur doing a dist upgrade, all universe/3rd party apps will be removed anyway [06:20] [Hardy]TuTUXG: Um, no. [06:20] [Hardy]TuTUXG: 3rd party repositories will be disabled, certainly. But it shouldn't touch Universe. [06:20] * [Hardy]TuTUXG use the alternative iso to do a hd install always [06:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> RAOF, sorry, my bad [06:21] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> so medibuntu repo is considerd as a 3rd part repo then [06:21] you mean install from image directly to HD? is it as easy as burning CD? [06:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kyklone, it's a little bit faster, but u have to use the alternative iso with the text installer [06:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> and install the gui manually [06:22] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> which is easy just like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [06:27] is the network manager package broken? [06:27] danage: vpnc on it is... [06:28] i seen in the topic, but i cannot install it atm [06:28] i'm scared something will break if i install the libraries without the nm === boomer` is now known as boomer [06:30] Is the connection applet working in hardy? I can't access my desktop with it.. [06:30] oh i cant do updates anyway [06:30] OOo is broken [06:30] OOo? [06:30] the writer2latex package needs to be synced from debian [06:31] ohh [06:31] yeah for a couple days now.... [06:31] ? [06:33] bug #198942 [06:33] Launchpad bug 198942 in openoffice.org "[Ubuntu] [hardy] openoffice.org metapackage has unsatisfied dependency on openoffice.org-writer2latex" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198942 [06:40] does anyone know why xfs has been dropped from the alpha6 amd64 server d-i? [06:59] what happened to the quit menu? [06:59] er [06:59] quit option in the system menu [06:59] shutdown/restart are gone [07:01] oh well bug report filed #199388 [07:13] weird, when I connect over ssh via "connect to server" applet it states that the location is not mounted. any ideas? [07:13] Although I can go through nautilus, and connect through the location URL bar [07:20] J-_laptop: No, but I've experienced that too. [07:26] i know why that is [07:26] it's the gvfs transition [07:26] they are working on it [07:26] though most bugs are reported upstream [07:34] ah cool, thanks =D [07:35] At least I can access it another way via the Nautilus 'Go' menu. Or, probably ssh in terminal. [07:35] * J-_laptop curses, and runs back to the desktop. [07:38] Hint: bookmark. [07:38] Bookmark the ssh folder. The first time it opens, it'll dump you to the root of the remote system, but then you can go to the bookmark again and it'll take you to the right place. [07:39] ah, makes sense. Thanks [07:42] Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.112 was not provided by any .service files [07:42] Please select another viewer and try again. [07:42] weird [07:54] god morning folks! I wonder if there is a command which can show which version of ubuntu i have installed? (I also want to see which alpha-version of 8.04 I have)? [07:55] mEck0: lsb_release -a [07:56] macogw, that shows some info, but not which alpha version is currently in use. the description is just "Ubuntu hardy (development branch)). [07:56] oh [07:56] maybe it's not possible to see exact which alpha is in use? [07:56] if youre up to date, its 6 [07:57] alpha6 is beeing installed right now (I think) [07:57] im a day behind on updates, so i guess mine's still 5 :P [07:58] hehe [07:58] btw, have you tried kde4 yet? I haven't tried it since I tested one of the betas. [07:58] i dont like kde [07:59] ok, gnome? or are you a minimalist which uses open-/fluxbox? :P [07:59] gnome usually [07:59] i like fluxbox quite a lot though [07:59] i spent the last month using fluxbox, but now that ive got my compiz-able laptop back, im back to gnome [07:59] okay, I'm running gnome now too, indeed fluxbox is good [08:00] on the fluxbox laptop, i didnt have any gnome apps running [08:00] er well...oh hmm eye of gnome...nevermind [08:00] i guess i had 1 [08:00] tried to stick to plain gtk and not gnome so id only need to load the gtk libs not gtk and gnome [08:02] thats a good idea yeah, I like flux too because of its minimalistic design, customizability and because its so memory/cpu efficient [08:02] i like the plain text config the best [08:02] i think editing the menus and startup that way is easier than using gnome's gui's [08:08] macogw, yeah and you only add menuitems which you really need [08:09] yep [08:09] hi [08:10] orion_, hi! [08:10] I'm on gusty, whats new in hardy ? [08:10] I mean.. new as encouraging to upgrade [08:11] orion_: new theme based on the murrine engine [08:11] new resolution dohikey [08:11]