| vALIEN | hey | 04:49 |
|---|---|---|
| dsmith_ | sup | 04:50 |
| dsmith_ | noisy in there | 04:50 |
| dsmith_ | so your on ubuntu now? | 04:50 |
| === vALIEN is now known as v4L13N | ||
| v4L13N | yeah | 04:51 |
| dsmith_ | i prefer kde | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | and the session i usually start in is "X session whatever" | 04:52 |
| dsmith_ | but can use anything | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | and it does something | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | then starts GNOME | 04:52 |
| dsmith_ | you can install kde | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | well | 04:52 |
| dsmith_ | try it out | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | i have KDE too | 04:52 |
| dsmith_ | ok | 04:52 |
| v4L13N | so whats kubuntu | 04:52 |
| dsmith_ | !kubuntu | 04:53 |
| ubotu | Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | when i use KDE on ubuntu? | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | instead of gnome ... lol | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | ok | 04:53 |
| dsmith_ | two opposing methods of doing the same things | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | yeah i know | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | i have used both i just feel more comfortable with gnome | 04:53 |
| dsmith_ | i like ubuntu, its well polished | 04:53 |
| v4L13N | and i like the way it looks | 04:54 |
| dsmith_ | kubuntu is on this laptop | 04:54 |
| v4L13N | yeah the last linux i got into was fedora | 04:54 |
| dsmith_ | when I present linux I always use ubuntu | 04:54 |
| v4L13N | it made me quit for a while | 04:54 |
| dsmith_ | heh, howcome | 04:54 |
| v4L13N | lack of dvd burner / cd burner at the time... so i was stuck with an old version , and no wireless card | 04:54 |
| v4L13N | no ethernet card | 04:55 |
| v4L13N | junk pc | 04:55 |
| v4L13N | ( im usually on my macbook) | 04:55 |
| v4L13N | (until i got ubuntu) | 04:55 |
| dsmith_ | ok | 04:56 |
| dsmith_ | i started with redhat 7 | 04:56 |
| v4L13N | me too | 04:57 |
| v4L13N | one red hat | 04:57 |
| v4L13N | i dunno what version, but i havent really dug into it until recently | 04:57 |
| v4L13N | with ubuntu | 04:58 |
| v4L13N | but what i do is produce music, design graphics and web ... php mysql | 04:58 |
| v4L13N | css | 04:58 |
| dsmith_ | been using it since 6.06 | 04:58 |
| dholbach | MOTU Q&A Session in 7 minutes | 12:53 |
| dholbach | welcome everybody to another MOTU Q&A session! | 13:00 |
| dholbach | who do we have here today? :) | 13:00 |
| Iulian | Hiya dholbach! | 13:00 |
| * Iulian waves | 13:00 | |
| * Amaranth waves | 13:00 | |
| Amaranth | hrm, small crowd :P | 13:00 |
| dholbach | how are you all doing? | 13:00 |
| Iulian | Doing great :) | 13:01 |
| dholbach | ROCK ON :) | 13:01 |
| teprrr | so is this session about creating packages or..? | 13:01 |
| dholbach | teprrr: it's about asking all the questions you have on your mind, regarding packaging, motu processes, we can even try to fix a problem together, etc | 13:02 |
| dholbach | this session is all you guys make of it :) | 13:02 |
| dholbach | so do we have any questions today? :) | 13:02 |
| Iulian | I do | 13:03 |
| dholbach | Iulian: excellent - fire away | 13:03 |
| teprrr | dholbach, ah, I see. well, I'll stick in the background and watch what others want to say :) | 13:03 |
| dholbach | teprrr: if anything's unclear - please speak pu | 13:03 |
| dholbach | up | 13:03 |
| Iulian | I have some questions regarding bug #199201. It looks like it doesn't build cleanly. Please take a look at Please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5379/plain/ | 13:04 |
| Iulian | Do you have any ideas how to fix that? I'm totally clueless. | 13:04 |
| teprrr | Iulian, the patch seems to be broken | 13:06 |
| dholbach | let me try it | 13:06 |
| Iulian | Okay | 13:06 |
| dholbach | weird weird | 13:08 |
| Iulian | dholbach: Indeed. | 13:09 |
| dholbach | I just applied the .debdiff - that one applies fine | 13:09 |
| dholbach | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5376/plain/ does not | 13:10 |
| dholbach | Iulian: how did you generate the "new patch" that RainCT mentions? | 13:11 |
| Iulian | dholbach: I just made a new debdiff and removed unnecessary lines | 13:11 |
| Iulian | Those lines that are in the first debdiff | 13:12 |
| dholbach | hrm... it's a lot of changes between the two | 13:13 |
| dholbach | daniel@lovegood:~$ diff -u gliv_1.9.5-1ubuntu2.debdiff paste.ubuntu.com | diffstat | 13:13 |
| dholbach | paste.ubuntu.com | 970 +++++++++++++++++-------------------------------------- | 13:13 |
| dholbach | 1 file changed, 316 insertions(+), 654 deletions(-) | 13:13 |
| dholbach | daniel@lovegood:~$ | 13:13 |
| dholbach | so it's hard for me to figure out what you changed | 13:13 |
| dholbach | you need to be very careful when you edit patches "by hand" | 13:14 |
| Iulian | Blah, I'm pretty lagged. | 13:15 |
| dholbach | so I can't say much about it right now, sorry | 13:15 |
| Iulian | Ok, then I will make a new one and don't remove those lines by hand. | 13:15 |
| dholbach | as I said... the debdiff works fine | 13:15 |
| dholbach | if you remove complete sections in it (say all changes to config.sub) that works fine | 13:16 |
| dholbach | just try your edited patch on the pristine sourcepackage and see how it works | 13:16 |
| Iulian | Ok, I will try that. | 13:17 |
| dholbach | the patch generally looks good though :) | 13:17 |
| dholbach | you might want to consider forwarding it to debian | 13:17 |
| Iulian | The first one, right? | 13:17 |
| dholbach | yeah, just skimmed through it | 13:18 |
| dholbach | good work :) | 13:18 |
| dholbach | do we have any other questions? | 13:18 |
| dholbach | if you're interested in getting started helping out http://daniel.holba.ch/really-fix-it might interest you | 13:19 |
| dholbach | it contains a lot of bugs that are "nearly fixed" :) | 13:19 |
| bobbo | dholbach; as i said in the thread on the forums, that list is brilliant :) | 13:20 |
| dholbach | thanks bobbo | 13:20 |
| dholbach | now we just need to work a bit to get those 1200+bugs down to 0 :) | 13:20 |
| dholbach | any questions? :) | 13:21 |
| Iulian | dholbach: Should I ask RainCT to try the first .debdiff ? I'm gonna forward it to debian but shouldn't be uploaded to Ubuntu first? | 13:21 |
| Iulian | Also I forwarded bug 196872 to debian as well. | 13:21 |
| dholbach | Iulian: we can upload it to ubuntu no problem, just make sure we get the packages in sync soon again | 13:22 |
| * Iulian fixed two bugs this week which are already uploaded. | 13:22 | |
| * dholbach hugs Iulian | 13:22 | |
| dholbach | good work | 13:22 |
| Iulian | dholbach: Ok, I will take care of it. | 13:22 |
| dholbach | rock on | 13:22 |
| * Iulian hugs dholbach back | 13:22 | |
| Iulian | I still wainting for an answer from siretart on bug 198298 | 13:23 |
| Iulian | I think that patch is ready too. | 13:23 |
| Iulian | But I will wait for Reinhard's comment. | 13:23 |
| Iulian | s/I still wainting/I'm still waiting | 13:25 |
| dholbach | Iulian: where and how is the icon installed? | 13:26 |
| Iulian | dholbach: IIRC the icon was in the source directory. I took the icon and converted to .xpm 32x32 | 13:27 |
| dholbach | but the patch does not install the .xpm in the new package, does it? | 13:27 |
| Iulian | Hmm, it doesn't? | 13:28 |
| Iulian | Let me take a look at it again. | 13:28 |
| Iulian | You're talking about the nxtvepg package right? | 13:28 |
| dholbach | yes | 13:29 |
| Iulian | dholbach: I've added dh_install debian/nxtvepg.desktop /usr/share/applications and dh_desktop to install the icon. | 13:30 |
| Iulian | Did I missed something? | 13:30 |
| Iulian | Also the .desktop file looks good. | 13:30 |
| dholbach | you don't dh_install the .xpm file, do you? | 13:30 |
| Iulian | Nop | 13:31 |
| Iulian | I don't. | 13:31 |
| dholbach | daniel@bert:~$ less /var/cache/pbuilder/result/nxtvepg_2.7.6-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb | grep .xpm | 13:32 |
| dholbach | daniel@bert:~$ | 13:32 |
| dholbach | it'd make sense to have it in /usr/share/pixmaps or something | 13:32 |
| Iulian | And how do I change it? | 13:33 |
| dholbach | dh_install debian/nxtvepg.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps ? | 13:33 |
| Iulian | Instead of dh_install debian/nxtvepg.desktop /usr/share/applications ? | 13:34 |
| Amaranth | no, you want both of those | 13:34 |
| dholbach | no, both | 13:34 |
| Iulian | I thought so. | 13:34 |
| dholbach | great :) | 13:34 |
| Iulian | I'm doing the changes now and will submit a new debdiff. | 13:35 |
| dholbach | rock on | 13:35 |
| dholbach | any other questions? :) | 13:36 |
| * Iulian hugs dholbach! | 13:36 | |
| dholbach | :-) | 13:36 |
| dholbach | it's also great some of you are into 5-a-day :) | 13:36 |
| bobbo | dholbach; can we ask questions about bugsquad/5-a-day? | 13:36 |
| dholbach | hehe | 13:37 |
| dholbach | sure | 13:37 |
| Iulian | Oh wait, before you upload the patch from bug #199201 please let me make a new debdiff. I said in the changelog Move homepage field... but I actually add it. | 13:37 |
| bobbo | (just a small one) how often are the stats updated on your server? | 13:37 |
| dholbach | Iulian: I'll leave it to siretart - no problem | 13:37 |
| Iulian | dholbach: Not that bug, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gliv/+bug/199201 | 13:38 |
| dholbach | bobbo: a couple of times a day... the timestamp is on the bottom of the page | 13:38 |
| * bobbo goes to look | 13:38 | |
| dholbach | Iulian: ah ok - well it's in the sponsoring queue so will be dealt with :) | 13:39 |
| bobbo | hehe hadn't seen that before, thanks :) | 13:39 |
| dholbach | bobbo: every hour (just checked) | 13:39 |
| Iulian | dholbach: Ok, thank you. | 13:39 |
| * Iulian is afk - lunch | 13:39 | |
| dholbach | anytime | 13:39 |
| dholbach | Iulian: enjoy it | 13:40 |
| Iulian | Thanks | 13:40 |
| dholbach | do we have any other questions? anybody else on their path towards MOTU :) | 13:40 |
| dholbach | ok... if there are no other questions, I'll do it like Iulian and go out for lunch myself | 13:43 |
| dholbach | feel free to ask all your questions in #ubuntu-motu - there's always somebody there who might know :) | 13:43 |
| bobbo | bye dholbach, thanks :) | 13:43 |
| dholbach | have a great weekend and see you soon again :) | 13:43 |
| dholbach | bye bobbo :) | 13:44 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| Heartsbane | Zelut: ping | 23:06 |
| Zelut | Heartsbane: pong | 23:07 |
| Heartsbane | Am I going to bump into you on Saturday, to talk wiki proposals so I can post something to the mailing list before Sunday? | 23:07 |
| Heartsbane | just curious | 23:08 |
| * Heartsbane thinks Zelut doesn't know. | 23:09 | |
| Heartsbane | :( | 23:10 |
| Zelut | i forgot about the meeting saturday | 23:13 |
| Heartsbane | So I take it cat probably would not approve? | 23:13 |
| Heartsbane | if I see ya cool, if I don't bummer | 23:14 |
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