[00:32] <LaserJock> do you think anybody would mind if we didn't do the Maintainer check for packages with "ppa" in the version?
[00:33] <slangasek> yes :)
[00:34] <LaserJock> darn
[00:34] <slangasek> well - is it your own address you'd be putting there?
[00:34] <LaserJock> I don't think we should be having ubuntu-motu and ubuntu-devel-discuss as Maintainer on PPA packages
[00:34] <LaserJock> well, *I* don't want to be on there
[00:34] <LaserJock> it's a team-maintained package
[00:34] <slangasek> oh, but the Maintainer check only requires that the Maintainer address is *@*ubuntu.com
[00:35] <LaserJock> yes, it's have to be my email to do that
[00:35] <LaserJock> * it'd
[00:35] <slangasek> oh.  Uploaders: field? :-)
[00:35] <slangasek> that's certainly a different case than the one I was worrying about, though
[00:35] <StevenK> The maintainer field munging shouldn't happen on with PPAs
[00:36] <LaserJock> dpkg-source checks if you have an @ubuntu.com email address
[00:36] <LaserJock> and if you do it errors out if you don't set the Maintainer field
[00:36] <LaserJock> if you don't have an @ubuntu.com it's just a warning
[00:36] <StevenK> [11:39] < LaserJock> I don't think we should be having ubuntu-motu and ubuntu-devel-discuss as Maintainer on PPA packages
[00:37] <StevenK> That ^ is something different, too
[00:37] <LaserJock> yes
[00:37] <StevenK> Since the munging happens for binary packages too. So stop talking about two seperate issues at once. :-)
[00:37] <LaserJock> but what I'd normally do is set ubuntu-motu as the Maintainer as I don't want to be listed as maintainer
[00:37] <LaserJock> ah, well, there's that too
[00:37] <LaserJock> I was talking about source package munging
[00:38] <StevenK> I thought it was just a warning, like you said?
[00:38] <LaserJock> it's only a warning if DEBEMAIL doesn't have @ubuntu.com
[00:39] <LaserJock> so in my case it throws an error
[00:39] <StevenK> Bwahaha
[00:39] <StevenK> I get a phone call as shown as 'Overseas' by caller id
[00:39] <StevenK> Recorded message with an American accent, "Hold the line please, I have a call for this number."
[00:40] <StevenK> And then an engaged tone.
[00:40] <LaserJock> hmm, so I guess I'm in a bit of a pickle
[00:40] <LaserJock> I guess I'll set myself as Maintainer
[00:41] <LaserJock> but perhaps we should have dpkg-source do a warning in all cases
[02:03] <crimsun> oh crap, we have to somehow handle the default mixer controls in GNOME for hardy
[02:04] <crimsun> 'cos, eh, there's a serious desync when GSt uses the ALSA hw mixer as opposed to the PA one
[02:05] <crimsun> gconf hackery, yay
[02:09] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:10] <crimsun> 'lo
[02:10] <bddebian> Hi crimsun
[02:10] <LaserJock> hiya crimsun and bddebian
[02:10] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[03:45] <bddebian> ScottK: You around?
[04:24] <ScottK> bddebian: Vaguely for a moment
[04:24] <bddebian> ScottK: WTF is up with testresources?  It built on the other archs and it builds fine for me in a hardy pbuilder!?
[04:25]  * Hobbsee ponders the idea of #launchpad sending us people for packaging support
[04:25] <ScottK> bddebian: Dunno.
[04:25] <ScottK> Hobbsee: That would be unfortunate.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> ScottK: that's what they're doing now
[04:26] <Hobbsee> [14:51] <cprov> 00:20:55> tbf, damoxc: could you, please, post packaging questions in #ubuntu{-devel, -motu} ?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> [14:51] <tbf> 00:21:05> cprov: the help text starts very generic, so there is a high risk that people like me skip the entire paragraph, and miss the relevant information provided by those sentenses
[04:26] <Hobbsee> [14:51] <cprov> 00:21:29> tbf: fine, send and email with your suggestion to launchpad-users ML, I will update the text by request
[04:26] <Hobbsee> [14:51] <tbf> 00:21:31> cprov: the motu guess usually forward you to #launchpad, when it comes to PPA
[04:26] <Hobbsee> [14:51] <cprov> 00:21:59> tbf: I believe it's not true for "packaging" questions
[04:26] <ScottK> I guess I'll have to listen there for who to send back.
[04:26] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i doubt he's awake
[04:26] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:26] <Hobbsee> tbf was that one
[04:27] <ScottK> It's certainly not our job to teach people how to stuff things in random third party repos
[04:27] <Hobbsee> well, that's my thought
[04:28] <Hobbsee> speaking of which, has someone *checked* that the ppa packages aren't showing us as maintainer?
[04:28] <ScottK> The do
[04:28] <ScottK> We've had mail to the MOTU list on PPA packages.
[04:28] <Hobbsee> they are, or are not showing as us maintainer?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> yeah, but didn't they fix that?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> or did htey break it again?
[04:28] <ScottK> Dunno.  When would they have fixed it.
[04:29] <Hobbsee> ages ago.  when some of us yelled over it.
[04:30] <ScottK> Stuff I uploaded yesterday to my PPA has Ubuntu Core Developers as maintainer
[04:31] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[04:32] <ScottK> I'd suggest saying don't send PPA packagers to #ubuntu-motu for packaging help either (you said devel)
[04:32] <Hobbsee> yeah, well
[04:32] <Hobbsee> i figured that could be up for conjecture, at least for ab it
[04:32] <ScottK> Not at all
[04:32] <ScottK> Canonical makes a big deal about LP is separate from Ubuntu.  They can't have it both ways.
[04:33] <ScottK> PPA is a Launchpad product that is not part of Ubuntu.
[05:05] <cinvoke> Does anybody know how to open port 22?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> 22's open by default on ubuntu systems.
[05:06] <Hobbsee> and this is not a support channel.  #ubuntu is
[05:48] <RAOF> Hm.  Tracker doesn't like indexing my mail.  Again.
[05:53] <StevenK> RAOF: Still?
[05:55] <RAOF> StevenK: Oh, it did before.  I filed a bug, and I think it got fixed.
[05:55] <RAOF> Then I decided to try beagle again, which doesn't tend to die as easily.
[05:56] <RAOF> Then I switched back to tracker, since we're including it by default and it's meant to have improved significantly... and for some strange reason it barfs on my evolution mailbox with >~ 100K emails in it.
[05:57] <RAOF> Oh, and the backtrace is nothing but ?? :)
[05:59] <RAOF> Well, the apport retracer can see if it has any better luck once my lappy gets a net connection again.
[07:40] <warp10> Good morning
[07:44] <HighN1> good morning warp10
[07:44] <warp10> hey HighN1!
[07:44] <HighN1> args
[07:45] <HighNo> ah, that's better
[07:45] <warp10> :D
[08:06] <\sh> moins
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:09] <\sh> grmpf..relogging
[08:10] <\sh> whoever is responsible for virtualbox, please add admin group users to the vbox group during install pretty please ,-)
[08:10] <\sh> brb
[08:11] <\sh> re
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> Hmm, anyone used imapsync, imapcopy, or offline imap?  I'm trying to figure out which would be appropriate for backup up GMail - think Google suddenly gets taken out by a meteor or twelve kind of thinking.
[08:24]  * Fujitsu takes note to knock out tonyyarusso's place when he next decides to demolish Google.
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> :P
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu: See, that's the brilliance of it though.  If I'm dead I don't care about my mail anymore.
[08:25] <Fujitsu> Damnit.
[08:29] <HighNo> tonyyarusso: I've used thunderbird and marked folders as 'available offline' - it even has a GUI :-)
[08:29] <HighNo> tonyyarusso: it even has an email reader included - it's almost like GMail but offline :-)
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> HighNo: I specifically want no GUI.  I want my headless machine to do it for me, instead of the ridiculously slow nonsense of trying to use Thunderbird or Evo while they're doing it.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> HighNo: Trust me, with 200+ folders, having the sync be in the mail client is simply not a viable option anymore.
[08:30] <HighNo> tonyyarusso: see the :-) at the end? :-)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> No :-) :-) :-)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> O noez!  teh aolers haz invadez!
[08:32] <HighNo> tonyyarusso: I've once used an interesting tool that backed up the imap and had an impressive searh function like google for mail. I think it was called Nöe
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> HighNo: eh? the middle character of that name isn't in my character set.
[08:33] <HighNo> Hehe, it's an o with two dots above. let me search for the link...
[08:36] <HighNo> Ok, I remebered it wrong, it's zoe: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zoe/
[08:37] <HighNo> But I see it is no longer in active development
[08:37] <HighNo> I had it installed and it was really cool.
[08:37] <HighNo> it was impressively fast too
[08:38] <HighNo> but enough of the praise it seems abandoned now
[08:52] <DktrKranz2> rulus: around?
[09:24] <rulus> DktrKranz2: hi
[09:42] <TomaszD> hello motu people :] a bite-size bug for anyone who has two minutes to spare https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/199413
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199413 in vlc "Please include Polish translation for .desktop file (diff included)" [Undecided,New]
[10:00] <lool> Hi folks; I'd like to discuss pushing new elisa updates to universe
[10:00] <lool> It's a bit complex because: 1) it technically requires a freeze exception since these are new upstreams
[10:01] <lool> 2) it's pending main promotion, but can't be promoted because the current packages are completely broken
[10:01] <lool> 3) it requires NEWing of 3 new sources and misc binary renames
[10:02] <lool> Since the packages are completely broken ATM, my plan is to simply push the new ones
[10:02] <lool> New pigment, new elisa, and 3 new elisa-plugins-{good,bad,ugly} sources
[10:03] <Hobbsee> lool: if the archive admins are happy to put in the time and effort to review and promote, etc, then it's fine by me.
[10:03] <Hobbsee> sounds like pitti is
[10:04] <lool> Cool
[10:05] <pwnguin> interesting software; i just set up a mythbuntu box
[10:07] <pwnguin> but we don't have a pvr so a lot of it's worthless to us ;)
[10:20] <pochu> ScottK: the rest == interdiff ?
[10:20] <pochu> (re: emesene FFe)
[10:29] <DktrKranz2> rulus: re bug 180383, did GtkVD stop working? If so, it can be SRU-worthy if you can isolate a patch.
[10:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180383 in gtkvd "Van Dale website code changed" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180383
[10:31] <geser> DktrKranz2: Hi, any progress with dietlibc?
[10:32] <DktrKranz2> geser: hi. I planned to ping you some days ago, but I forgot :( Anyway, despite it works on i386 and amd64, there's no way to have it working for sparc (and I guess for other ports too)ù...
[10:34] <geser> DktrKranz2: will there be a new upload of dietlibc or can I upload the fix for FTBFS for bglibs?
[10:35] <DktrKranz2> geser: upstream did not release a fix to work with gcc 4.2 yet, so I guess the safer way is to revert my changes and compiling binaries depending on dietlibc with -fno-stack-protector. They're 15...
[10:36] <geser> will you do the upload or should I?
[10:39] <DktrKranz2> Since I need to manage several uploads, I guess I'll be able to do it in the weekend, but if you need to have to push bglibs in short terms, you can do it.
[10:40] <geser> DktrKranz2: I'll wait for the new dietlibc upload
[10:41]  * Hobbsee waits for laserjock
[10:41]  * geser waits for imbrandon
[10:42] <DktrKranz2> geser: agreed then. I hope to have a better fix for intrepid than having so many deltas... but that's the story so far (also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GccSsp, "Record of problems")
[10:44] <geser> DktrKranz2: what about building dietlibc on sparc/powerpc with -fno-stack-protector? or is it broken on the others archs too (although they build)?
[10:47] <DktrKranz2> geser: powerpc is broken (it FTBFS the same way as sparc). I haven't hppa or ia64 boxes to check, amd64 neither, lpia needs porting.
[10:49] <DktrKranz2> and if we compile dietlibc with -fno-stack-protector, applications needs to use it as well or they receive segfaults at startup.
[10:57] <rulus> DktrKranz2: GtkVD is not in the archive yet, but the bug is in gnuvd too. Gnuvd < 1.0.5 does not work anymore; version 1.0.5 is in fact no more than a bugfix for this bug.
[11:02] <DktrKranz2> rulus: oh... yes. I was referring to gnuvd, sorry. Anyway, if you can isolate a patch for it, it can be easier to review than backporting new upstream to -proposed.
[11:04] <DktrKranz2> I see you proposed a fix in debian 459286, if this solves the issue, it's great.
[11:04] <ubotu> Debian bug 459286 in gnuvd "gnuvd: No longer works." [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/459286
[11:04] <rulus> DktrKranz2: that was only to fix the included graphical component
[11:05] <rulus> DktrKranz2: I'll try to make a full patch later
[11:06] <DktrKranz2> rulus: great! Ping me when ready, if you need guidance or sponsoring.
[11:06] <rulus> DktrKranz2: sure, will do :)
[11:20] <Hobbsee> ouch.
[11:20] <Hobbsee> full circle magazine is recommending checkinstall from compiling from source!
[11:53] <Iulian> Heya
[11:59] <jdstrand> hi dholbach!
[12:00] <Hobbsee> oh noes, it's jdstrand
[12:01] <jdstrand> dholbach: I am using firefox3 and python-launchpad-bugs. I have some scripts that use 'Bug.authentication = '<path>/cookies.txt', but ff3 uses sqlite
[12:01] <dholbach> jdstrand: I think thekorn has a solution for that
[12:01] <jdstrand> dholbach: is there a workaround or new way of using p-l-b
[12:01] <jdstrand> Hobbsee: :P
[12:03] <jdstrand> dholbach: ah yes, checking the latest changelog, I found bug #181138
[12:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 181138 in python-launchpad-bugs "RFE: use login/password to create a temporary cookie" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181138
[12:05] <thekorn> jdstrand, bug 192575 has a workaround if you want to use your cookie file
[12:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192575 in python-launchpad-bugs "HTTPConnection: Firefox 3 stores cookies in sqlite database" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192575
[12:06] <jdstrand> thekorn: thanks!
[12:06] <Iulian> Uhmm, anyone has any ideas how to fix http://paste.ubuntu.com/5379/plain/ ?
[12:53] <dholbach> MOTU Q&A Session in 7 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:59] <ScottK> pochu: IIRC bulid and install logs, but I don't have time to check right now.
[13:08] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I didn't realize it was only supposed to be binary mangling.  Sorry about that.
[13:10] <ScottK2> mok0: I'm headed out of town.  Since it's bugfix only (I'm assuming that's correct) it doesn't need motu-release, just sponsored.
[13:11] <mok0> ScottK: I am working to incorporate Tiago's patch
[13:11] <ScottK> OK
[13:11] <bobbo> geser; would you know why lvemix build-deps on python-xml  (Bug #199014)? RainCT sent me in your direction.
[13:11] <ScottK> I may or may not be on line over the weekend.
[13:11] <bobbo> s/lvemix/livemix
[13:11] <mok0> ScottK: should I create a new debdiff, or an interdiff?
[13:11] <ScottK> Debdiff.  Interdiff is deprecated.
[13:12] <mok0> ScottK: ok, I hope it's not too late
[13:12] <ScottK> I think not if it's all bug fixes
[13:12] <mok0> ScottK: I appears so
[13:12] <mok0> s/I/It
[13:12] <ScottK> We bug fix universe all the way up to the final archive freeze before release.
[13:13] <mok0> ScottK: good
[13:13] <mok0> ScottK: the current drive to fix bugs is sure to introduce new ones :-)
[13:14] <ScottK> Sure.  The goal is to net make forward progress
[13:16] <mok0> ScottK: since I am applying a patch from trunk, serpentine is no longer version 0.9, but somewhere along the line towards 0.9.1. How should I indicate that in the package name?
[13:18] <mok0> ScottK: serpentine_0.9+r162-0ubuntu1 is my suggestion
[13:25] <tiagoboldt> Some recent update (hardy), has changed my fonts in almost all my apps.. firefox, thunderbird, xchat.. Anyone noticed the same?
[13:28] <mok0> tiagoboldt: no
[13:29] <tiagoboldt> I've got someone in #ubuntu+1 saying the exact same thing..
[13:29] <mok0> tiagoboldt: Actually, I don't use any of the apps you mention
[13:29] <geser> bobbo: iirc livemix FTBFS without it
[13:30] <bobbo> geser; thanks :)
[13:30] <geser> bobbo: remove it from build-depends and try to build it to see what needs fixing
[13:31] <bobbo> ok will do
[13:35] <bobbo> geser; seems to be building fine without it :/
[13:40] <geser> bobbo: just checked again, FTBFS without python-xml for me
[13:40] <bobbo> geser, hmmm very odd
[13:40] <dholbach> does using python-dev as a build-dep fix it?
[13:41] <geser> bobbo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5402/
[13:41] <bobbo> i better go double check mine is building properly
[13:42] <bobbo> now pbuilder is being moody, not my day today :/
[13:45] <geser> bobbo: build-depending on python seems to do it
[13:45] <bobbo> geser; ah thanks. Now i just gotta get pbuilder working again and I can make a debdiff :)
[13:51] <mok0> Hmm. How do you test the simple patchsystem?
[13:53] <bmm> Hello
[13:53] <bmm> I'm new here
[13:53] <bmm> I want to compile some deb packages :)
[13:53] <bmm> to be the master of the universe...
[13:56] <james_w> bmm: hi. Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[13:57] <bmm> yes, I'm reading all web pages about...
[14:05] <geser> emgent: are you still working on bug #191154?
[14:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191154 in revelation "Please merge revelation-0.4.11-3 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191154
[14:06] <emgent> geser, yep but when i opened it was freeze mode
[14:06] <emgent> feel free to work on it
[14:22] <jdstrand> dholbach: created a patch for #192575
[14:23] <jdstrand> bug #192575
[14:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192575 in python-launchpad-bugs "HTTPConnection: Firefox 3 stores cookies in sqlite database" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192575
[14:23] <jdstrand> dholbach: added bzr branch with changeset
[14:42] <RainCT> hi
[14:48] <dholbach_> jdstrand: great - best to let thekorn and bdmurray know - they're the pylpbugs masters :)
[14:49] <bddebian> Heya gang
[14:49] <dholbach> hey bddebian
[14:50] <emgent> :)
[14:50] <bddebian> Hi dholbach, emgent
[14:51] <Iulian> Hey RainCT - I've submitted a new debdiff to #199201
[14:51] <Iulian> Hi bddebian ;)
[14:51] <bddebian> Hello Iulian
[14:53] <xuftugulus> hello people. I just recently started using ubuntu, but am quite experienced with unix systems, learned using autotools have competence with C, can both read and write excellent source code, and want to get involved.
[14:55] <bobbo> RainCT; you up for testing the new debdiff for bug #199014 ?
[14:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199014 in revelation "python-xml removal: please drop/replace (build) dependencies" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199014
[14:56] <RainCT> Hi Iulian :). Will look at it in a moment.
[14:57] <RainCT> Welcome xuftugulus
[14:58] <Iulian> xuftugulus: Well, I think you should start reading the wiki pages from /topic
[14:58] <RainCT> bobbo: have you checked what the build dependency is needed for?
[14:59] <xuftugulus> ok will do, thanx for the replies.
[14:59] <bobbo> RainCT; yeah i talked to geser and we worked out how to fix it
[15:01] <RainCT> bobbo: great. upload the debdiff please, there's only a .dsc on your comment
[15:01] <bobbo> woops :/
[15:02] <RainCT> bobbo: btw, I'm curious.. What is the dependency for?
[15:02] <bobbo> RainCT; geser doesnt *really* know but we do know that it FTBFS without python / python-xml
[15:03] <bobbo> RainCT; http://bobbo.mooo.com/~bobbo/livemix_0.49~rc2-0ubuntu3.debdiff
[15:03] <RainCT> z@ubuntu/member/mathiaz] has joined #ubuntu-motu
[15:09] <RainCT> bobbo: you forgot the >= 2.4 in the python builddep; (added that)
[15:09] <bobbo> RainCT; is the rest fine?
[15:09] <RainCT> bobbo: seems so :)
[15:09] <bobbo> wahey :)
[15:10] <POX_> how can I remove my name from #199014 (pypar2 is already fixed but I'm still receiving bug comments)
[15:10] <POX_> ?
[15:10] <jpatrick> POX_: unsubribe yourself
[15:10] <POX_> I'm not subscribed
[15:10] <POX_> so I cannot do it
[15:10]  * POX_ tried
[15:11] <RainCT> POX_: are you bug contact for the package or what?
[15:11] <POX_> yes, for pypar2
[15:11] <jpatrick> bug #199014
[15:11] <POX_> but pypar2 is already synced with Debian
[15:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199014 in revelation "python-xml removal: please drop/replace (build) dependencies" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199014
[15:12] <RainCT> POX_: then afaik you can't; but ask in #launchpad to be sure
[15:12] <POX_> eh, nevermid then
[15:13] <jdstrand> dholbach: heh, not sure why I was thinking it was you... :)
[15:16] <dholbach> jdstrand: I was much more involved with pylpbugs and bughelper than I am now :)
[15:22] <RainCT> Iulian: I only complained about the changelog or?
[15:37] <xuftugulus> how do i expose my secret key to debsign? I followed the steps of the GnuPrivacyGuardHowTo correctly i believe, but debuild -S -sa still fails.
[15:38] <RainCT> xuftugulus: have you exported DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL variable?
[15:39] <xuftugulus> johnyc@pazuzu:~/dev/brasero-0.6.1$ echo $DEBFULLNAME
[15:39] <xuftugulus> John Mpanos
[15:39] <xuftugulus> johnyc@pazuzu:~/dev/brasero-0.6.1$ echo $DEBEMAIL
[15:39] <xuftugulus> maihem666@gmail.com
[15:39] <Iulian> RainCT: IIRC you told me to remove unnecessary lines and yes you said something about the changelog.
[15:39] <Iulian> !paste
[15:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:39] <xuftugulus> I believe so ;)
[15:40] <RainCT> xuftugulus: if you run "gpg --list-secret-keys" does it say EXACTLY "John Mpanos <maihem666@gmail.com>"?
[15:40] <Iulian> RainCT: Did you get that error message again?
[15:41]  * Iulian shrugs
[15:41] <RainCT> Iulian: with the new one it works, fixed what you say in your last comment and I'm building it now :)
[15:41] <Iulian> RainCT: That's great.
[15:41] <xuftugulus> no you are right, but the comment of gpg needs to be on my DEBFULLNAME ?
[15:41] <RainCT> Iulian: (you forgot to remove config.guess changes from the debdiff too, btw)
[15:42] <RainCT> xuftugulus: yes, between brakets
[15:42] <Iulian> RainCT: I think if I remove config.guess you'll get that error.
[15:42] <Iulian> RainCT: Not sure about it.
[15:43] <RainCT> Iulian: I removed it before applying the patch and it worked.. (remove it from the debdiff, not the source, if you understood it like that)
[15:43] <Iulian> RainCT: Yes, I understood what you said.
[15:44] <RainCT> ok
[15:44] <Iulian> RainCT: Next time I will remove them :)
[15:44] <Iulian> Ohh, I think I know what was the problem.
[15:44] <Iulian> But I'm not very sure.
[15:44] <RainCT> OT, does top have some option to sort stuff by memory usage?
[15:45] <Iulian> In debian/rules I added dh_install debian/gliv.xpm /usr/share/applications instead of gliv.desktop
[15:45] <Iulian> I will make a test when I have some time.
[15:45] <xuftugulus> ok, i am taking the demo package build from start....
[15:45] <xuftugulus> thanx for the help
[15:46] <broonie> RainCT: Yes. O will bring up a menu of sort options.
[15:48] <RainCT> broonie: thanks
[15:48] <mruiz> hi all
[15:48] <Iulian> Hey
[16:11] <hellboy195> dholbach: around?
[16:11] <dholbach> hellboy195: yes
[16:12] <hellboy195> dholbach: circuslinux. Only the .desktop file isn't correct!?
[16:12] <dholbach> hellboy195: which bug number?
[16:12] <hellboy195> dholbach:  bug #198796
[16:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198796 in circuslinux "Please sync circuslinux 1.0.3-21 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198796
[16:14] <dholbach> hellboy195: if you don't think we should merge, best to subscribe norsetto and raise that on the bug report
[16:14] <james_w> dholbach: do you have your party hat on?
[16:14] <dholbach> I just noticed there was still discussion going on, which is why I unsubscribed the sponsors team
[16:14] <dholbach> james_w: party hat on? :)
[16:15] <hellboy195> dholbach: ah. true sry. it's just that I haven't seen him for a while here. Maybe I'll write him a mail
[16:15] <dholbach> hellboy195: or just subscribe him to the bug
[16:15] <dholbach> james_w: how are you doing? :)
[16:16] <hellboy195> dholbach: k, it's actually a merge I just have to check out what has to be done (by me)ซ๗
[16:16] <dholbach> alrighty
[16:17] <james_w> dholbach: it's nearly the weekend :-)
[16:17] <dholbach> james_w: hehe.... yeah :-)
[16:18] <rexbron> jcastro: Hey Jorge, what is your @ubuntu address, jcastro@ubuntu.com is getting bounced back to me
[16:19] <jcastro> rexbron: jorge@
[16:24] <hellboy195> dholbach: Am I right that the sync block is only about 1 line? http://pastebin.com/m26c04e87
[16:24] <jdstrand> emgent: hi!
[16:25] <jdstrand> emgent: re: bug #198731
[16:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 198731 in lighttpd "[CVE-2008-1111] Failure to Handle Exceptional Conditions " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198731
[16:25] <dholbach> hellboy195: best to ask norsetto that
[16:25] <jdstrand> emgent: the debdiff looks good and I will be uploading it shortly
[16:26] <hellboy195> dholbach: ah k :)
[16:26] <jdstrand> emgent: one minor nit though-- while Debian Policy doesn't specify a line width in the changelog, convention dictates it should be under 80 characters
[16:26] <jdstrand> emgent: fyi only-- I am fixing it and uploading
[16:26] <jdstrand> emgent: thanks! :)
[16:26] <Iulian> RainCT: Thanks, I'm forwarding to Debian now.
[16:29] <Lamego> simam0rr
[16:32] <jdstrand> emgent: oh, for clarity, this of course does not apply to the Maintainer or package lines :)
[16:37] <jdstrand> emgent: one other small thing-- the changelogs refer to 90-CVE-2008-1111.dpatch when they should refer to 91_CVE-2008-1111.dpatch
[16:37] <ubotu> ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1111)
[16:37] <ubotu> ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1111)
[16:38] <jdstrand> emgent: as I know, that is an easy one to miss ;)
[16:50] <hellboy195> dholbach: btw. I'm doing another merge so I noticed that Debian renamed librra0-dev to librra-dev. Do we need a transition. whom should I ask , etc ,..
[16:51] <dholbach> hellboy195: if everything is in universe, just write a mail to ubuntu-motu@ as a heads up, do the transition and see if a simple rebuild works for all rdepends
[16:51] <dholbach> you could also mail the motu-release team folks so they're aware of what's going on
[16:52] <hellboy195> dholbach: well. librra-dev isn't in universe yet but I could ask the release team what to do :)
[16:52] <dholbach> for universe it's fine to let just ubuntu-motu and motu-release know
[16:53] <hellboy195> k =)
[17:27] <RainCT> how can I force the installation of a .deb?
[17:32] <hellboy195> RainCT:  sudo dpkg --force-all -i *,deb
[17:33] <RainCT> thanks
[17:37] <hellboy195> np
[18:00] <Halph> How do I install a folder recursively? Can I do it without specifying each subfile that needs installation and each directory?
[18:04] <RainCT> Halph: dh_install accepts directory names
[18:04] <RainCT> so just list the directory in debian/install or add "dh_install path/to/directory usr/whatever/destination" to debian/rules
[18:06] <Halph> oh, so I don't need to write an install target into the Makefile?
[18:20] <Halph> hey, it worked! Thanks!
[18:30] <Cybermatt> Hello i keep getting this error from pbuilder-dist when i try to create gutsy chroots http://pastebin.ca/932393
[18:32] <Cybermatt> it gives me a base tarball but its not useable
[18:43] <RainCT> Cybermatt: please paste /usr/bin/pbuilder-dist somewhere
[18:46] <Cybermatt> RainCT, http://pastebin.ca/932410
[18:55] <RainCT> Cybermatt: no idea, sorry
[18:55] <RainCT> I'm rewriting the thing in Python, btw. It should become more robust then
[19:06] <doofy`> does https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans mean netbeans 6 is in universe or will be soon? im a little confused
[19:08] <doofy`> nevermind, looks like the packages are on revu... I'm assuming they will only be in hardy though
[19:09] <RainCT> doofy`: 6.0.1 is in Hardy's universe
[19:09] <doofy`> RainCT, cool, thanks
[19:27] <RainCT> keescook: already uploaded?
[19:27] <RainCT> (ubuntu-dev-tools 0.28)
[19:28] <keescook> RainCT: just now, yes
[19:28] <RainCT> keescook: nevermind then :)
[19:29] <keescook> RainCT: okay.  :)  did I miss something?
[19:31] <RainCT> keescook: no, I wanted to ask you to wait a bit as this weekend I'll probably work on some scripts (mainly get the new pbuilder-dist ready) but it doesn't really matter :)
[19:32] <keescook> RainCT: oh! sorry about that.  There was an mk-sbuild-lv fix that I wanted to get published.
[19:34] <RainCT> keescook: don't worry, it's no problem at all :)
[20:46] <asabil> hi all
[20:46] <asabil> can someone delete this : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=vala
[20:46] <asabil> I uploaded it there by mistake
[20:46] <RainCT> asabil: is archieving it enough?
[20:47] <asabil> RainCT: what is archiving ?
[20:47] <RainCT> asabil: making it unaccessible from the website but keeping the files on the server
[20:48] <asabil> that's fine
[20:48] <RainCT> asabil: ok, done
[20:48] <asabil> thanks
[20:49] <RainCT> (correction: it's just not listing it on the mainpage; it's still accessible if you enter details.py?package=value)
[20:50] <RainCT> Cybermatt: I see the error you got with pbuilder-dist is fixed in ubuntu-dev-tools 0.28
[20:53] <mok0> Anyone here knows about gpg-agent?
[20:53] <mok0> I can't get it to work with debsign
[20:55] <mok0> Ah, I had tp set GPG_TTY
[21:06] <cyberixae> Where can I find a guide for watch files?
[21:08] <james_w> cyberixae: http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/uscan.html
[21:09] <james_w> or http://jameswestby.net/mentors/tutorials/writingawatchfile.html for a quick tutorial
[21:11] <cyberixae> thanks
[21:24] <flithm> hey everyone... I can't find that page that shows me how to install a chroot hardy for testing package builds (don't want to install via the iso)
[21:25] <mathiaz> flithm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[21:25] <flithm> mathiaz: ahhh great thanks
[21:34] <cyberixae> E: mi2svg source: clean-should-be-satisfied-by-build-depends debhelper
[21:35] <cyberixae> What's this? What's this?
[21:35] <cyberixae> There's something very wrong
[21:36] <geser> cyberixae: add -i to linda or lintian to get a verbose message
[21:36] <geser> cyberixae: add a versioned dependency on debhelper to build-depends
[21:37] <cyberixae> oh
[21:37] <cyberixae> It seems I only had it inBuild-Depends-Indep
[21:38] <geser> cyberixae: everything you need in the clean target must be listed as Build-Depends
[21:38] <cyberixae> I wonder, if I actually need to have a Build-Depends-Indep section
[21:38] <cyberixae> Maybe I could just change it to Build-Depends
[21:39] <geser> have you any arch:all packages?
[21:40] <cyberixae> I have one
[21:40] <cyberixae> This means I need the Indep section?
[21:41] <cyberixae> lintian stopped complaining when I tried without. linda didn't complain either.
[21:45] <geser> cyberixae: not necessarily, B-D-Indep is for those Build-Depends which are only needed for building the arch:all packages, so the buildds which build only the arch:any part don't need to install those
[21:50] <cyberixae> Well I have only one package which is arch:all
[22:01] <geser> then it won't make much difference as it will only be build on the i386 buildd (which also builds the arch:all packages)
[22:22] <flithm> hey everyone, if I'm building a deb but I've changed the source content package (ie the lzma downloaded from launchpad) is there a way to stop dpkjg-buildpackage from complaining that the lzma has changed?
[22:40] <cyberixae> K. I think I'm starting to be ready. I hope I got it all right. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=mi2svg
[22:46] <Cybermatt> cyberixae, i am not a motu but there are a few common mistakes
[22:46] <Cybermatt> 1. current policy version is 3.7.3
[22:47] <Cybermatt> and 2. Need a Homepage control file field
[22:49] <cyberixae> It has a Homepage field!
[22:49] <Cybermatt> sorry didn't see it
[22:50] <cyberixae> k
[22:50] <cyberixae> no problem
[22:50] <cyberixae> Just wanted to make sure it doesn't magically disappear or anything
[22:50] <Cybermatt> :)
[23:01] <cyberixae> policy version updated
[23:33] <RainCT> cyberixae: if you ping me tomorrow I'll have a look at it