| Ubulette | i've packaged it a week ago | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| Ubulette | nm | 00:23 |
| Ubulette | bed time | 00:23 |
| Ubulette | btw, you were supposed to answer to mozilla bug 421168 | 00:30 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 421168 in Build Config "firefox using --with-libxul-sdk doesn't install .idl/.h on make install" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421168 | 00:30 |
| === readyx is now known as ready | ||
| asac | bug 199140 | 08:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199140 in network-manager "Network manager shows and connects to virtual interfaces" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199140 | 08:40 |
| asac | carlos: ok. do you think we could try the full cycle for ubufox? i have two translation contributions which we could import next to the original en-US.xpi | 08:55 |
| carlos | sure | 08:56 |
| carlos | where could I get the .xpi files? | 08:56 |
| asac | carlos: in a perfect world we would manage to get ubufox + xulrunner + firefox translated through launchpad for hardy. | 08:56 |
| asac | carlos: i have to produce them first ;) | 08:56 |
| asac | let me look | 08:56 |
| asac | (they are in a bzr branch) | 08:56 |
| carlos | asac: Launchpad will not be ready for that until the end of this month, unless I get the approval from kiko to cherrypick the needed changes... | 08:57 |
| carlos | asac: because we found small bugs with the importer | 08:57 |
| carlos | as you should be aware right now | 08:57 |
| asac | yes | 08:59 |
| asac | carlos: i could talk to kiko to emphasize our needs ;) | 08:59 |
| asac | how much code does the change touch? | 08:59 |
| carlos | I will talk with him, don't worry | 09:00 |
| asac | k | 09:00 |
| carlos | asac: I had to change some things... | 09:00 |
| carlos | don't worry I will handle that with my manager | 09:00 |
| carlos | and tell you the answer | 09:00 |
| asac | btw, will you be in prague? | 09:01 |
| carlos | I don't think so | 09:02 |
| carlos | asac: if you need someone from the translations team, Jtv is the one that is supposed to attend such events now | 09:11 |
| asac | ah ok. | 09:17 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ex/ubufox/main | 09:21 |
| asac | ups | 09:21 |
| asac | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/cairo_1.5.12-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 09:21 |
| asac | :) | 09:21 |
| asac | Ubulette: can you dump the buggy_repeat patch for now | 10:04 |
| asac | we are still getting X updates. i don't want to miss in case it gets fixed | 10:05 |
| asac | nm | 10:09 |
| asac | Ubulette: i will take it that way. can you please close bugs in changelog if possible in future? | 10:13 |
| asac | i will touch the changelog now | 10:13 |
| asac | Ubulette: ok you +packages adict ;) ... uploading | 10:21 |
| asac | _with_ buggy-repeat | 10:21 |
| carlos | asac: hi | 11:49 |
| carlos | asac: I just sent you the german translations for firefox and xulrunner in .po file format as Launchpad will generate them | 11:50 |
| carlos | asac: I think I fixed all issues we found, could you confirm whether everything is correct now? | 11:50 |
| asac | carlos: looking | 12:01 |
| asac | carlos: the first msgid in firefox-de.po looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5399/ | 12:02 |
| asac | is that intended? | 12:02 |
| carlos | that's a special message in .po file format | 12:02 |
| carlos | which is supposed to be the header | 12:02 |
| carlos | right now, is the xpi 'header' | 12:03 |
| carlos | although at the end, it will be changed to be a valid .po file header | 12:03 |
| carlos | asac: is it going to affect your current scripts? | 12:04 |
| asac | carlos: ok | 12:04 |
| asac | no, shouldn't matter | 12:04 |
| asac | translation blocks without a #: comment need to be omitted i guess | 12:04 |
| carlos | asac: well, it's even more simple | 12:05 |
| carlos | asac: if msgid is empty | 12:05 |
| carlos | is the header | 12:05 |
| carlos | msgid "" | 12:05 |
| carlos | msgstr "Something" | 12:05 |
| carlos | which is different from: | 12:05 |
| carlos | msgid "" | 12:05 |
| carlos | "somethign else" | 12:06 |
| asac | ok | 12:06 |
| asac | thanks | 12:06 |
| carlos | msgstr "something translated" | 12:06 |
| asac | btw, ubufox will take a bit. i have to iprove the lp-export.mk helper to sort out locales that are squashed into one .jar ... e.g. ubufox doesn't have en-US.jar + de-DE-jar, but everything is in ubufox.jar | 12:06 |
| carlos | ok | 12:07 |
| asac | but after that the locale extraction during build should be pretty much finished for all cases | 12:07 |
| asac | the lp-export.mk will also eliminate all translations that are not en-US | 12:07 |
| carlos | asac: that last part should be done only if the package is in main | 12:07 |
| asac | sure. for now packages need to explicitly enable launchpad translations | 12:09 |
| asac | if they don't this won'thappen | 12:09 |
| carlos | ok | 12:09 |
| asac | (i guess you ment that only main packages can be translated in launchpad atm)? | 12:09 |
| carlos | right | 12:09 |
| asac | ok. in understood. should be fine | 12:09 |
| carlos | if you strip translations for packages outside main, the package will be completely untranslated | 12:10 |
| asac | actually i only want xulrunner-1.9 + firefox-3.0 and ubufox in launchpad for hardy | 12:10 |
| asac | (and midbrowser for mobile) | 12:10 |
| asac | ... which is of course not less ambitious ;) | 12:10 |
| asac | midbrowser will eventually go to main (hopefully soonish) | 12:11 |
| carlos | ok | 12:12 |
| carlos | I'm going to work on adding some extra tests for the bug fixes | 12:13 |
| carlos | and try to get it cherry picked | 12:13 |
| carlos | otherwise you will need to wait until 26th to get it available in Launchpad | 12:13 |
| Ubulette | asac, oh damn, the buggy repeat was not in the debdiff I wanted you to use but was in my diff.gz (because that's what I've used in my ppa as users requested it) | 13:19 |
| Ubulette | <asac> close bugs in changelog if possible in future <= in this case, there were none, but i usually do | 13:20 |
| asac | Ubulette: yeah ;) | 13:29 |
| asac | all fine | 13:29 |
| asac | now we have buggy-repeat fixed | 13:29 |
| asac | and i don't mind :) | 13:29 |
| Ubulette | asac, seb is mad now | 13:51 |
| asac | yeah | 13:52 |
| asac | Ubulette: just let me do the discussion | 13:57 |
| Ubulette | ok | 13:57 |
| Ubulette | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4388068&postcount=18 | 14:00 |
| asac | Ubulette: maybe we can try to come up with a better patch? figure out if XAA is used and then use buggy_repeat? | 14:21 |
| asac | Ubulette: we should see if it really fixes the cairo testcase as well | 14:21 |
| Ubulette | i've tried a bit to get the driver name but went to a dead end | 14:22 |
| asac | hmm ... and how about getting accellmethod instead of driver? | 14:23 |
| Ubulette | no idea | 14:23 |
| asac | i will try to get the theory :) | 14:25 |
| asac | i think its a bug for all XAA except nvidia | 14:26 |
| asac | Ubulette: ok i think seb is now more or less happy again. sorry that you got dragged into this | 14:31 |
| Ubulette | so you need both accellmethod and driver name | 14:31 |
| Ubulette | it's okay, it was my mistake anyway (bad diff.gz) | 14:32 |
| asac | Ubulette: he? i uploaded it ... so all this belongs to me | 14:33 |
| asac | i explicitly decided to push this | 14:33 |
| Ubulette | ok ok, so you're fault | 14:33 |
| asac | i just forgot that seb had also reasons to not ship it :) | 14:33 |
| Ubulette | your | 14:33 |
| asac | (i always thought i was the only one :)) | 14:34 |
| asac | x folks say there is no other way than parsing the log ... ouch | 14:34 |
| Ubulette | yep, that was my conclusion too | 14:35 |
| asac | Ubulette: can you paste the output of xdpyinfo please | 14:35 |
| asac | (i guess you have EXA, right?) | 14:35 |
| Ubulette | ati or nvidia ? | 14:35 |
| asac | hmm | 14:35 |
| asac | you have ati with EXA? | 14:35 |
| asac | maybe paste both :) | 14:36 |
| Ubulette | remember it's a runtime check, running xdpyinfo at each call maybe be worse than the current workaround | 14:36 |
| asac | hey :) | 14:37 |
| Ubulette | -maybe+may | 14:37 |
| asac | xpdyinfo just displays properties | 14:37 |
| asac | we would need to code that for using X calls | 14:37 |
| asac | if we can figure something at all | 14:37 |
| asac | anyway ... looks like there is no information for us | 14:37 |
| Ubulette | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/xdpyinfo-ati-fglrx+xaa.txt | 14:40 |
| asac | and nvidia? | 14:42 |
| Ubulette | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/xdpyinfo-nvidia.txt | 14:47 |
| Ubulette | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5405/ | 14:48 |
| asac | Ubulette: grep for accell | 14:48 |
| Ubulette | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5406/ | 14:49 |
| asac | aeh grep -i accel /var/log/Xorg* | 14:49 |
| asac | yeah that info looks good i guess | 14:49 |
| asac | buggy_repeat = if (xaa_xfree86) | 14:49 |
| Ubulette | asac, [reed]: i've just confirmed for the UDS | 15:35 |
| armin76 | whats UDS? | 15:35 |
| Ubulette | Ubuntu Developer Summit | 15:36 |
| asac | \o/ | 15:37 |
| asac | great! | 15:37 |
| asac | i think prague will be lots of fun ;) | 15:45 |
| Ubulette | hope so | 15:45 |
| Ubulette | it's also a nice city | 15:45 |
| Ubulette | i hope we'll have some free time to visit a bit | 15:45 |
| armin76 | bumb | 15:45 |
| asac | recoooonect | 15:48 |
| Ubulette | armin76, bumb ? | 15:58 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/jpeg_moz.diff | 15:58 |
| Ubulette | you've ported the moz patch ? | 15:59 |
| asac | ported? ... hehe. not | 15:59 |
| asac | just diffed | 15:59 |
| asac | that fixes the black jpegs on zoom for us | 15:59 |
| asac | (most likely because its gone if i disable system-jpeg) | 16:00 |
| Ubulette | quite huge to review :P | 16:00 |
| asac | yeah :) | 16:00 |
| Ubulette | with tons of asm | 16:00 |
| asac | read jpeg/MOZCHANGES | 16:00 |
| asac | :) | 16:00 |
| asac | then you know | 16:00 |
| asac | i would like to extract the patch that fixes those black images ;) | 16:01 |
| asac | appears to be a bunch of performance code | 16:01 |
| asac | like MMX | 16:01 |
| asac | SSE2 | 16:01 |
| asac | support | 16:01 |
| asac | hopefully its not fixed because of that :( | 16:01 |
| Ubulette | i've followed the bug on bonsai for a while | 16:01 |
| asac | what id? | 16:01 |
| Ubulette | hmm | 16:01 |
| asac | can you subscribe me: asac@jwsdot.com | 16:01 |
| asac | ? | 16:02 |
| armin76 | no *g* | 16:02 |
| Ubulette | it was not the black bug, but a performance related bug | 16:02 |
| asac | ah | 16:02 |
| asac | well ... MOZCHANGES doesn't talk about performance changes at all | 16:02 |
| asac | maybe your bug is about current performance problems? | 16:02 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 44781 | 16:04 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 44781 in ImageLib "Support CMYK, YCCK JPEGs" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44781 | 16:04 |
| asac | hmm starring doesn't work for me | 16:04 |
| asac | does it work for you? | 16:04 |
| asac | e.g. pushing the star next to the location? | 16:04 |
| asac | nothing happens for me | 16:04 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 411718 | 16:05 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 411718 in ImageLib "Speed up JPEG decoding by 30% by skipping buffer" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411718 | 16:05 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 363986 | 16:06 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 363986 in ImageLib "nsJPEGEncoder::ReadSegments() and nsPNGEncoder::ReadSegments() do not advance read pointer" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363986 | 16:06 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 411379 | 16:06 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 411379 in ImageLib "Add SSE2 processing for JPEG color, use static instead of dynamic arrays" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411379 | 16:06 |
| asac | ok its grab and drag that breaks it | 16:07 |
| asac | ubotu: yeah ... i understood the static array | 16:07 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 412753 | 16:07 |
| asac | Ubulette: ^^ | 16:07 |
| asac | :) | 16:07 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 412753 in ImageLib "Speed up JPEG decoding by another 10%" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412753 | 16:07 |
| asac | ubotu: hmm | 16:09 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about hmm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 16:09 |
| asac | Ubulette: do you have bonsai open right now? | 16:09 |
| Ubulette | yes | 16:09 |
| asac | do you see any real bug fix to jpeg in the past 10 years :) ? | 16:09 |
| Ubulette | yes | 16:11 |
| Ubulette | http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fjpeg&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=all&mindate=&maxdate=&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot | 16:11 |
| asac | which bug would you suspect? | 16:11 |
| asac | "Landing JPEG_BRANCH" :)? | 16:11 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 380115 | 16:19 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 380115 in GFX: Thebes "Linux 16-bit widget size issues (black rectangle at bottom of long page)" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380115 | 16:19 |
| Ubulette | mozilla Bug 378293 | 16:20 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 378293 in General "Black regions during unminimizing/unshading/opening Firefox/Thunderbird with Compiz" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378293 | 16:20 |
| Ubulette | donno, a mix of all those ;) | 16:20 |
| asac | Ubulette: last bug is unrelated | 16:31 |
| Ubulette | yes, i figured that out too | 16:31 |
| Ubulette | hm, should I take the return flight on saturday or friday evening ? | 16:32 |
| Ubulette | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716588 | 16:59 |
| Ubulette | i don't see that | 16:59 |
| Ubulette | at least looking at the .dev branch | 16:59 |
| asac | ubotu: i think usually we leave on sat | 17:18 |
| asac | hmm | 17:18 |
| asac | Ubulette: i usually fly back on sat | 17:23 |
| Ubulette | me too | 17:23 |
| asac | there is usually some event on friday night | 17:23 |
| Ubulette | i asked for sun -> sat | 17:24 |
| asac | 17:32 < Ubulette> hm, should I take the return flight on saturday or friday evening ? | 17:24 |
| Ubulette | i asked because here, i don't pay | 17:25 |
| asac | ah | 17:25 |
| Ubulette | donno how strict it is | 17:26 |
| asac | well ... usually sat is fine | 17:26 |
| Ubulette | good | 17:26 |
| asac | are there no instructions? | 17:26 |
| Ubulette | nope | 17:26 |
| asac | strange | 17:26 |
| asac | jcastro: ^^^ can confirm that returning on saturday is right? | 17:26 |
| Ubulette | ok, got the proposals | 17:27 |
| Ubulette | "Fares start from GBP 403.80, however, if you include a Saturday night stay in your trip and leave on the 17th May then the fare is much cheaper at GBP189.80." | 17:27 |
| Ubulette | strange, i see 97€ here | 17:29 |
| asac | he? | 17:30 |
| asac | whats that? | 17:30 |
| Ubulette | proposal from EYAS | 17:30 |
| Ubulette | i've checked on airfrance.fr | 17:31 |
| asac | so leaving on sun? | 17:31 |
| asac | if you want to visit prague, maybe tell him to hold that flight and forward to claire asking if thats ok | 17:32 |
| Ubulette | nope, i've asked for sun 18 -> sat 24, they proposed sat 17 -> sat 24 | 17:32 |
| asac | ah ... i remember that some airlines take different rates depending on which coutry you are in :) | 17:33 |
| asac | ah | 17:33 |
| asac | but i would stick to EYAS. much simpler for you | 17:33 |
| Ubulette | sat 17 - sun 18 is fossdem | 17:33 |
| asac | right | 17:33 |
| asac | ask claire anyway ... because hotel room is also additional costs | 17:33 |
| Ubulette | is that interesting ? | 17:33 |
| asac | might be | 17:33 |
| asac | no idea who is coming though | 17:34 |
| Ubulette | i'm no big upstream though | 17:34 |
| asac | well ... :) ... its also: ubuntu meets upstream ;) | 17:34 |
| Ubulette | i've forwarded the email to Claire | 17:38 |
| asac | yes | 17:46 |
| jcastro | I think most people return on saturday | 17:50 |
| asac | thanks | 17:50 |
| asac | Ubulette: you have the bug id for the background thing in your head? | 17:59 |
| asac | oh firefox full text search is great :) | 18:00 |
| asac | Ubulette: ok attached more info to it :) | 18:03 |
| Ubulette | [17:02] <Ubulette> it was not the black bug, but a performance related bug | 18:12 |
| Ubulette | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5413/ | 18:21 |
| asac | yeah | 18:44 |
| asac | that testcase is not yet adapted to show the bug that strikes us | 18:44 |
| asac | the pad and reflect one are not causing this according to cworth | 18:44 |
| Laibsch | I am not yet so familiar with mozilla bug triage procedure | 19:13 |
| Laibsch | Looks like it is special (and somewhat incomprehensibly written IMHO) | 19:14 |
| asac_ | Laibsch: what do you want to know | 19:14 |
| asac_ | where are you looking at :)? | 19:14 |
| Laibsch | In any case, I was wondering how to alert somebody to make a decision whether or not a bug report contains expected behaviour or is a wontfix case | 19:14 |
| asac_ | asking here is a good start | 19:14 |
| Laibsch | bug 144560 | 19:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144560 in mozilla-firefox "doesn't prompt for certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144560 | 19:15 |
| asac_ | i am usually in the channel | 19:15 |
| [reed] | WHAT THE? | 19:15 |
| Laibsch | 1) Why is there no cc for a mozilla team contact on that bug? | 19:15 |
| [reed] | Microsoft wants to buy Red Hat? | 19:15 |
| * [reed] sad | 19:15 | |
| asac_ | Laibsch: "Mozilla Bugs" | 19:15 |
| asac_ | is subscribed | 19:15 |
| asac_ | [reed]: really? | 19:16 |
| [reed] | check google news | 19:16 |
| [reed] | search for microsoft red hat | 19:16 |
| asac_ | rumour or fact? | 19:16 |
| [reed] | see the news | 19:16 |
| [reed] | hmm | 19:16 |
| Laibsch | asac: sorry, my oversight | 19:16 |
| Laibsch | asac: Maybe you can close that one with the appropriate response | 19:17 |
| Laibsch | I believe the OP reports expected behaviour | 19:17 |
| [reed] | ok, what the? | 19:17 |
| [reed] | I think I got bad news | 19:17 |
| [reed] | er | 19:17 |
| [reed] | bad input | 19:17 |
| [reed] | anyway | 19:17 |
| asac_ | [reed]: so its ok that i can't find anything? | 19:17 |
| [reed] | yeah, I think... this guy doesn't usually make things up | 19:18 |
| [reed] | I'll look more into it | 19:18 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| [reed] | ah, my source had a bad source | 19:19 |
| [reed] | :p | 19:19 |
| [reed] | oh well | 19:19 |
| [reed] | n/m! sorry for the scare! | 19:19 |
| Ubulette | lol | 19:19 |
| asac | Laibsch: if you want to help on firefox bugs, please help on firefox-3.0 bugs | 19:20 |
| asac | firefox will sink soon :) | 19:20 |
| [reed] | asac: got b4 ready? | 19:25 |
| Ubulette | http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/03/prism-09-now-as-a-firefox-extension/ | 19:26 |
| Ubulette | i've packaged b4~rc1 a few days ago | 19:26 |
| Ubulette | [reed], ^^ | 19:29 |
| [reed] | cool | 19:29 |
| [reed] | ETA was supposed to be today, but due to a Windows PGO issue, that might change | 19:29 |
| asac | good ... we will roll them on monday i guess | 19:30 |
| Ubulette | mozilla bug 418926 | 19:31 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 418926 in Build & Release "Tracking bug for Build and Release of FF3.0beta4 (Gecko 1.9b4)" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418926 | 19:31 |
| Ubulette | asac, any news for ff3 locales ? | 19:42 |
| asac | yeah ... we have a -de.po export for xulrunner + firefox | 19:44 |
| asac | and we have an algorithm that would convert that into .xpi | 19:44 |
| asac | and two volunteers from -mobile that want to implement that ;) | 19:44 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/LaunchpadTranslationSupport | 19:44 |
| asac | but no ETA | 19:45 |
| asac | just that it should there hopefully won't be much problems along the way ... otherwise things will get really messy ;) | 19:45 |
| Ubulette | ok | 19:46 |
| asac | firefox hangs more frequently for me starting today | 20:09 |
| asac | maybe thats cairo? | 20:09 |
| asac | hmm ... maybe it started when i build with in-source jpeg :/ | 20:10 |
| [reed] | bah, just found a security problem with logrotate | 20:20 |
| [reed] | hmm | 20:20 |
| asac | Ubulette: do you see the background issue with ati opensource driver as well? | 20:20 |
| asac | or just fglrx | 20:20 |
| asac | ? | 20:20 |
| Ubulette | i dont know. I'm using fglrx because the opensource driver was too slow when I've installed that box | 20:21 |
| Ubulette | damn, I can't use anything using pulseaudio (/w or /wo esd) once i've played a flash sound/video in ff3 | 20:37 |
| Ubulette | asac, this is seriously broken | 20:44 |
| asac | yes. i think its known that pulseaudio is broken | 20:58 |
| Ubulette | my troubles started 2 or 3 weeks ago | 21:01 |
| Ubulette | on both boxes | 21:02 |
| Ubulette | all is fine until I play a youtube video or another flash audio/video content | 21:06 |
| Ubulette | i guess our /etc/firefox3*/* stuff is broken | 21:06 |
| asac | would be interesting to see if the issue exists in firefox 2 as well | 21:06 |
| asac | Ubulette: i am pretty sure that firefoxrc is not considered anymore | 21:07 |
| Ubulette | me too, i don't see what reads it | 21:07 |
| asac | but does it help to start firefox manually with a sound wrapper? | 21:10 |
| asac | like aoss /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b3/firefox | 21:11 |
| asac | or esdcompat /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b3/firefox | 21:11 |
| asac | looks like that is the wrong wrapper | 21:12 |
| asac | no idea | 21:12 |
| Ubulette | aoss puts me at 100% cpu | 21:13 |
| Ubulette | and it still doesn't work | 21:15 |
| Ubulette | esdcompat is not a wrapper but a daemon | 21:15 |
| Laibsch | asac: Can I install FF3 alongside normal FF? | 21:30 |
| Ubulette | you can, but you can't run both at the same time | 21:31 |
| Laibsch | That is OK. I'd only want FF3 for testing bugs as asac suggested | 21:32 |
| Ubulette | hhm, you're not using hardy ? | 21:32 |
| Laibsch | What I don't want is for the FF3 install to interfere with my regular FF browsing | 21:32 |
| Laibsch | not yet | 21:32 |
| Laibsch | still on gutsy | 21:32 |
| Ubulette | oh, then it's different | 21:33 |
| Laibsch | Is FF3 default on hardy? | 21:33 |
| Ubulette | you can install & run both at the same time | 21:33 |
| Ubulette | yes | 21:33 |
| asac | Laibsch: ffox 3 beta3 should be in -backports | 21:38 |
| asac | install from there | 21:38 |
| Ubulette | asac, i'm not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=717945 | 22:31 |
| asac | does starting with aoss help? | 22:33 |
| asac | without that info i have no pointer | 22:33 |
| asac | does the same bug exist when running gnash would be another valuable info | 22:34 |
| asac | i still haven't received answers for these simple questions :) | 22:34 |
| Ubulette | <Ubulette> aoss puts me at 100% cpu | 22:36 |
| Ubulette | <Ubulette> and it still doesn't work | 22:36 |
| asac | k | 22:36 |
| asac | did you start the process directly | 22:36 |
| asac | or the script? | 22:36 |
| Ubulette | directly | 22:36 |
| asac | k | 22:36 |
| asac | bug 199066 | 22:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199066 in network-manager "wireless support broken since 0.6.6~rc2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199066 | 22:37 |
| Ubulette | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=717914 | 22:41 |
| Ubulette | http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/playing-music-not-getting-sound-in.html | 22:43 |
| asac | bug 199066 | 22:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199066 in network-manager "wireless support broken since 0.6.6~rc2" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199066 | 22:44 |
| Ubulette | hm, libflashsupport | 22:44 |
| asac | just invalidated :) ... hehe | 22:44 |
| asac | whats libfrashsupport | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | donno | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | trying | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | Support library for sound output of Flash 9 with pulseaudio | 22:45 |
| Ubulette | http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/43 | 22:46 |
| asac | what happens if you uninstall that? | 22:46 |
| Ubulette | i've just installed it | 22:47 |
| asac | ah | 22:48 |
| asac | does that help? | 22:48 |
| Ubulette | yes | 22:49 |
| asac | ok | 22:49 |
| Ubulette | it rocks ! | 22:49 |
| asac | isn't that a dependency of flashplugin-nonfree noadays? | 22:49 |
| asac | nowadays | 22:49 |
| asac | it is | 22:49 |
| asac | apparently you are not using the package | 22:49 |
| asac | shame on you | 22:49 |
| Ubulette | strange | 22:50 |
| asac | as usual: better run distro stuff ;) | 22:50 |
| Ubulette | oh, it's in my user profile | 22:50 |
| asac | whats strange? | 22:51 |
| asac | yay | 22:51 |
| asac | wipe it ... use plugin finder dialog to install it | 22:51 |
| asac | ... ah right you wiped ubufox | 22:51 |
| asac | then you have to it manually | 22:51 |
| Ubulette | my home dir is from my previous box, built in 1998 | 22:51 |
| asac | your flash should be pretty old as well then ;) | 22:52 |
| asac | ok lets search for bugs and close them :) | 22:52 |
| Ubulette | that was debian bo or hamm | 22:53 |
| Ubulette | then all the following | 22:53 |
| Ubulette | as unstable | 22:53 |
| Ubulette | then ubuntu edgy | 22:53 |
| Ubulette | and all the +1 since | 22:53 |
| asac | bug 199666 | 23:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199666 in firefox-3.0 "add apport hooks from firefox 2 package" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199666 | 23:00 |
| Ubulette | what laptops are good those days ? | 23:06 |
| Ubulette | i want to renew mine | 23:06 |
| Ubulette | hm, now I have ff3 taking 30% cpu while i'm not touching it | 23:09 |
| Ubulette | a youtube page | 23:09 |
| Ubulette | damn, flash | 23:09 |
| xhaker | Ubulette: about laptops.. I'm typing on a dell xps m1330 | 23:13 |
| Ubulette | 13" ? | 23:16 |
| Ubulette | xhaker, is the wifi supported ? | 23:30 |
| xhaker | 13", and iwl3945 | 23:30 |
| xhaker | it's one of the laptops dell sells with ubuntu preinstalled | 23:31 |
| asac | Ubulette: i hav e 12" lenovo now | 23:32 |
| asac | thats decent | 23:32 |
| asac | but might be too small | 23:32 |
| asac | yeah the 13" dell is good as well i guess | 23:33 |
| asac | or the 12" ... which unfortunately doesn't ship with ubuntu ... and in germany even only for business customers ;) | 23:33 |
| Ubulette | the laptop i'm using at work is a dell | 23:34 |
| Ubulette | I've had 2 HP and 3 toshiba before | 23:34 |
| xhaker | Ubulette: i'm a fan of the dell d630 | 23:35 |
| asac | wait a bit and get the X300 lenovo | 23:35 |
| xhaker | Ubulette: they're more sturdy. 14" and you can get it with 1400x900 resolution | 23:36 |
| Ubulette | i have a hard time finding lenovo here | 23:40 |
| Ubulette | hm, even the XPS M1530 (15") seems to be 1280x800 | 23:42 |
| Ubulette | and vista only | 23:42 |
| asac | with the 15" ubuntu laptop you can upgrade to 1440x900 here | 23:43 |
| asac | for 30E | 23:43 |
| xhaker | Ubulette: latitude d630 or xps m1330 were my options.. they're both good options imo | 23:44 |
| Ubulette | on dell.fr, ubuntu is only for the 13" | 23:44 |
| asac | we had that for a week here as well | 23:44 |
| asac | then they readded teh 15' | 23:44 |
| asac | i wanted to order one for my mother | 23:45 |
| asac | but couldn't be because there was only the XPS | 23:45 |
| asac | now there is the inspiron back | 23:45 |
| asac | yes, you can upgrade the M1530 to 1440x900 here as well | 23:45 |
| asac | same for the M1330 | 23:45 |
| Ubulette | inspiron with ubuntu is there | 23:49 |
| Ubulette | it's an intel video chip | 23:49 |
| asac | yeah thats good | 23:49 |
| asac | or do you want ATI :-P? | 23:49 |
| Ubulette | nope | 23:50 |
| Ubulette | I kind of like nvidia on my desktop | 23:50 |
| asac | intel is decent | 23:50 |
| asac | at least if you are not into gamin :) | 23:50 |
| Ubulette | Minicard Intel® Pro/Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors, what's that ? is that good ? | 23:58 |
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