[00:23] <Ubulette> i've packaged it a week ago
[00:23] <Ubulette> nm
[00:23] <Ubulette> bed time
[00:30] <Ubulette> btw, you were supposed to answer to mozilla bug 421168
[00:30] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 421168 in Build Config "firefox using --with-libxul-sdk doesn't install .idl/.h on make install" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421168
[08:40] <asac> bug 199140
[08:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199140 in network-manager "Network manager shows and connects to virtual interfaces" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199140
[08:55] <asac> carlos: ok. do you think we could try the full cycle for ubufox? i have two translation contributions which we could import next to the original en-US.xpi
[08:56] <carlos> sure
[08:56] <carlos> where could I get the .xpi files?
[08:56] <asac> carlos: in a perfect world we would manage to get ubufox + xulrunner + firefox translated through launchpad for hardy.
[08:56] <asac> carlos: i have to produce them first ;)
[08:56] <asac> let me look
[08:56] <asac> (they are in a bzr branch)
[08:57] <carlos> asac: Launchpad will not be ready for that until the end of this month, unless I get the approval from kiko to cherrypick the needed changes...
[08:57] <carlos> asac: because we found small bugs with the importer
[08:57] <carlos> as you should be aware right now
[08:59] <asac> yes
[08:59] <asac> carlos: i could talk to kiko to emphasize our needs ;)
[08:59] <asac> how much code does the change touch?
[09:00] <carlos> I will talk with him, don't worry
[09:00] <asac> k
[09:00] <carlos> asac: I had to change some things...
[09:00] <carlos> don't worry I will handle that with my manager
[09:00] <carlos> and tell you the answer
[09:01] <asac> btw, will you be in prague?
[09:02] <carlos> I don't think so
[09:11] <carlos> asac: if you need someone from the translations team, Jtv is the one that is supposed to attend such events now
[09:17] <asac> ah ok.
[09:21] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ex/ubufox/main
[09:21] <asac> ups
[09:21] <asac> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/cairo_1.5.12-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[09:21] <asac> :)
[10:04] <asac> Ubulette: can you dump the buggy_repeat patch for now
[10:05] <asac> we are still getting X updates. i don't want to miss in case it gets fixed
[10:09] <asac> nm
[10:13] <asac> Ubulette: i will take it that way. can you please close bugs in changelog if possible in future?
[10:13] <asac> i will touch the changelog now
[10:21] <asac> Ubulette: ok you +packages adict ;) ... uploading
[10:21] <asac> _with_ buggy-repeat
[11:49] <carlos> asac: hi
[11:50] <carlos> asac: I just sent you the german translations for firefox and xulrunner in .po file format as Launchpad will generate them
[11:50] <carlos> asac: I think I fixed all issues we found, could you confirm whether everything is correct now?
[12:01] <asac> carlos: looking
[12:02] <asac> carlos: the first msgid in firefox-de.po looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5399/
[12:02] <asac> is that intended?
[12:02] <carlos> that's a special message in .po file format
[12:02] <carlos> which is supposed to be the header
[12:03] <carlos> right now, is the xpi 'header'
[12:03] <carlos> although at the end, it will be changed to be a valid .po file header
[12:04] <carlos> asac: is it going to affect your current scripts?
[12:04] <asac> carlos: ok
[12:04] <asac> no, shouldn't matter
[12:04] <asac> translation blocks without a #: comment need to be omitted i guess
[12:05] <carlos> asac: well, it's even more simple
[12:05] <carlos> asac: if msgid is empty
[12:05] <carlos> is the header
[12:05] <carlos> msgid ""
[12:05] <carlos> msgstr "Something"
[12:05] <carlos> which is different from:
[12:05] <carlos> msgid ""
[12:06] <carlos> "somethign else"
[12:06] <asac> ok
[12:06] <asac> thanks
[12:06] <carlos> msgstr "something translated"
[12:06] <asac> btw, ubufox will take a bit. i have to iprove the lp-export.mk helper to sort out locales that are squashed into one .jar ... e.g. ubufox doesn't have en-US.jar + de-DE-jar, but everything is in ubufox.jar
[12:07] <carlos> ok
[12:07] <asac> but after that the locale extraction during build should be pretty much finished for all cases
[12:07] <asac> the lp-export.mk will also eliminate all translations that are not en-US
[12:07] <carlos> asac: that last part should be done only if the package is in main
[12:09] <asac> sure. for now packages need to explicitly enable launchpad translations
[12:09] <asac> if they don't this won'thappen
[12:09] <carlos> ok
[12:09] <asac> (i guess you ment that only main packages can be translated in launchpad atm)?
[12:09] <carlos> right
[12:09] <asac> ok. in understood. should be fine
[12:10] <carlos> if you strip translations for packages outside main, the package will be completely untranslated
[12:10] <asac> actually i only want xulrunner-1.9 + firefox-3.0 and ubufox in launchpad for hardy
[12:10] <asac> (and midbrowser for mobile)
[12:10] <asac> ... which is of course not less ambitious ;)
[12:11] <asac> midbrowser will eventually go to main (hopefully soonish)
[12:12] <carlos> ok
[12:13] <carlos> I'm going to work on adding some extra tests for the bug fixes
[12:13] <carlos> and try to get it cherry picked
[12:13] <carlos> otherwise you will need to wait until 26th to get it available in Launchpad
[13:19] <Ubulette> asac, oh damn, the buggy repeat was not in the debdiff I wanted you to use but was in my diff.gz (because that's what I've used in my ppa as users requested it)
 close bugs in changelog if possible in future <= in this case, there were none, but i usually do
[13:29] <asac> Ubulette: yeah ;)
[13:29] <asac> all fine
[13:29] <asac> now we have buggy-repeat fixed
[13:29] <asac> and i don't mind :)
[13:51] <Ubulette> asac, seb is mad now
[13:52] <asac> yeah
[13:57] <asac> Ubulette: just let me do the discussion
[13:57] <Ubulette> ok
[14:00] <Ubulette> asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4388068&postcount=18
[14:21] <asac> Ubulette: maybe we can try to come up with a better patch? figure out if XAA is used and then use buggy_repeat?
[14:21] <asac> Ubulette: we should see if it really fixes the cairo testcase as well
[14:22] <Ubulette> i've tried a bit to get the driver name but went to a dead end
[14:23] <asac> hmm ... and how about getting accellmethod instead of driver?
[14:23] <Ubulette> no idea
[14:25] <asac> i will try to get the theory :)
[14:26] <asac> i think its a bug for all XAA except nvidia
[14:31] <asac> Ubulette: ok i think seb is now more or less happy again. sorry that you got dragged into this
[14:31] <Ubulette> so you need both accellmethod and driver name
[14:32] <Ubulette> it's okay, it was my mistake anyway (bad diff.gz)
[14:33] <asac> Ubulette: he? i uploaded it ... so all this belongs to me
[14:33] <asac> i explicitly decided to push this
[14:33] <Ubulette> ok ok, so you're fault
[14:33] <asac> i just forgot that seb had also reasons to not ship it :)
[14:33] <Ubulette> your
[14:34] <asac> (i always thought i was the only one :))
[14:34] <asac> x folks say there is no other way than parsing the log ... ouch
[14:35] <Ubulette> yep, that was my conclusion too
[14:35] <asac> Ubulette: can you paste the output of xdpyinfo please
[14:35] <asac> (i guess you have EXA, right?)
[14:35] <Ubulette> ati or nvidia ?
[14:35] <asac> hmm
[14:35] <asac> you have ati with EXA?
[14:36] <asac> maybe paste both :)
[14:36] <Ubulette> remember it's a runtime check, running xdpyinfo at each call maybe be worse than the current workaround
[14:37] <asac> hey :)
[14:37] <Ubulette> -maybe+may
[14:37] <asac> xpdyinfo just displays properties
[14:37] <asac> we would need to code that for using X calls
[14:37] <asac> if we can figure something at all
[14:37] <asac> anyway ... looks like there is no information for us
[14:40] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/xdpyinfo-ati-fglrx+xaa.txt
[14:42] <asac> and nvidia?
[14:47] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/xdpyinfo-nvidia.txt
[14:48] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5405/
[14:48] <asac> Ubulette: grep for accell
[14:49] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5406/
[14:49] <asac> aeh grep -i accel /var/log/Xorg*
[14:49] <asac> yeah that info looks good i guess
[14:49] <asac> buggy_repeat = if (xaa_xfree86)
[15:35] <Ubulette> asac, [reed]: i've just confirmed for the UDS
[15:35] <armin76> whats UDS?
[15:36] <Ubulette> Ubuntu Developer Summit
[15:37] <asac>  \o/
[15:37] <asac> great!
[15:45] <asac> i think prague will be lots of fun ;)
[15:45] <Ubulette> hope so
[15:45] <Ubulette> it's also a nice city
[15:45] <Ubulette> i hope we'll have some free time to visit a bit
[15:45] <armin76> bumb
[15:48] <asac> recoooonect
[15:58] <Ubulette> armin76, bumb ?
[15:58] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/jpeg_moz.diff
[15:59] <Ubulette> you've ported the moz patch ?
[15:59] <asac> ported? ... hehe. not
[15:59] <asac> just diffed
[15:59] <asac> that fixes the black jpegs on zoom for us
[16:00] <asac> (most likely because its gone if i disable system-jpeg)
[16:00] <Ubulette> quite huge to review :P
[16:00] <asac> yeah :)
[16:00] <Ubulette> with tons of asm
[16:00] <asac> read jpeg/MOZCHANGES
[16:00] <asac> :)
[16:00] <asac> then you know
[16:01] <asac> i would like to extract the patch that fixes those black images ;)
[16:01] <asac> appears to be a bunch of performance code
[16:01] <asac> like MMX
[16:01] <asac> SSE2
[16:01] <asac> support
[16:01] <asac> hopefully its not fixed because of that :(
[16:01] <Ubulette> i've followed the bug on bonsai for a while
[16:01] <asac> what id?
[16:01] <Ubulette> hmm
[16:01] <asac> can you subscribe me: asac@jwsdot.com
[16:02] <asac> ?
[16:02] <armin76> no *g*
[16:02] <Ubulette> it was not the black bug, but a performance related bug
[16:02] <asac> ah
[16:02] <asac> well ... MOZCHANGES doesn't talk about performance changes at all
[16:02] <asac> maybe your bug is about current performance problems?
[16:04] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 44781
[16:04] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 44781 in ImageLib "Support CMYK, YCCK JPEGs" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44781
[16:04] <asac> hmm starring doesn't work for me
[16:04] <asac> does it work for you?
[16:04] <asac> e.g. pushing the star next to the location?
[16:04] <asac> nothing happens for me
[16:05] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 411718
[16:05] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 411718 in ImageLib "Speed up JPEG decoding by 30% by skipping buffer" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411718
[16:06] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 363986
[16:06] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 363986 in ImageLib "nsJPEGEncoder::ReadSegments() and nsPNGEncoder::ReadSegments() do not advance read pointer" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363986
[16:06] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 411379
[16:06] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 411379 in ImageLib "Add SSE2 processing for JPEG color, use static instead of dynamic arrays" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411379
[16:07] <asac> ok its grab and drag that breaks it
[16:07] <asac> ubotu: yeah ... i understood the static array
[16:07] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 412753
[16:07] <asac> Ubulette: ^^
[16:07] <asac> :)
[16:07] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 412753 in ImageLib "Speed up JPEG decoding by another 10%" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412753
[16:09] <asac> ubotu: hmm
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hmm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <asac> Ubulette: do you have bonsai open right now?
[16:09] <Ubulette> yes
[16:09] <asac> do you see any real bug fix to jpeg in the past 10 years :) ?
[16:11] <Ubulette> yes
[16:11] <Ubulette> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=mozilla%2Fjpeg&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=all&mindate=&maxdate=&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot
[16:11] <asac> which bug would you suspect?
[16:11] <asac> "Landing JPEG_BRANCH" :)?
[16:19] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 380115
[16:19] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 380115 in GFX: Thebes "Linux 16-bit widget size issues (black rectangle at bottom of long page)" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380115
[16:20] <Ubulette> mozilla Bug 378293
[16:20] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 378293 in General "Black regions during unminimizing/unshading/opening Firefox/Thunderbird with Compiz" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378293
[16:20] <Ubulette> donno, a mix of all those ;)
[16:31] <asac> Ubulette: last bug is unrelated
[16:31] <Ubulette> yes, i figured that out too
[16:32] <Ubulette> hm, should I take the return flight on saturday or friday evening ?
[16:59] <Ubulette> asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716588
[16:59] <Ubulette> i don't see that
[16:59] <Ubulette> at least looking at the .dev branch
[17:18] <asac> ubotu: i think usually we leave on sat
[17:18] <asac> hmm
[17:23] <asac> Ubulette: i usually fly back on sat
[17:23] <Ubulette> me too
[17:23] <asac> there is usually some event on friday night
[17:24] <Ubulette> i asked for sun -> sat
[17:24] <asac> 17:32 < Ubulette> hm, should I take the return flight on saturday or friday evening ?
[17:25] <Ubulette> i asked because here, i don't pay
[17:25] <asac> ah
[17:26] <Ubulette> donno how strict it is
[17:26] <asac> well ... usually sat is fine
[17:26] <Ubulette> good
[17:26] <asac> are there no instructions?
[17:26] <Ubulette> nope
[17:26] <asac> strange
[17:26] <asac> jcastro: ^^^ can confirm that returning on saturday is right?
[17:27] <Ubulette> ok, got the proposals
[17:27] <Ubulette> "Fares start from GBP 403.80, however, if you include a Saturday night stay in your trip and leave on the 17th May then the fare is much cheaper at GBP189.80."
[17:29] <Ubulette> strange, i see 97€ here
[17:30] <asac> he?
[17:30] <asac> whats that?
[17:30] <Ubulette> proposal from EYAS
[17:31] <Ubulette> i've checked on airfrance.fr
[17:31] <asac> so leaving on sun?
[17:32] <asac> if you want to visit prague, maybe tell him to hold that flight and forward to claire asking if thats ok
[17:32] <Ubulette> nope, i've asked for sun 18 -> sat 24, they proposed sat 17 -> sat 24
[17:33] <asac> ah ... i remember that some airlines take different rates depending on which coutry you are in :)
[17:33] <asac> ah
[17:33] <asac> but i would stick to EYAS. much simpler for you
[17:33] <Ubulette> sat 17 - sun 18 is fossdem
[17:33] <asac> right
[17:33] <asac> ask claire anyway ... because hotel room is also additional costs
[17:33] <Ubulette> is that interesting ?
[17:33] <asac> might be
[17:34] <asac> no idea who is coming though
[17:34] <Ubulette> i'm no big upstream though
[17:34] <asac> well ... :) ... its also: ubuntu meets upstream ;)
[17:38] <Ubulette> i've forwarded the email to Claire
[17:46] <asac> yes
[17:50] <jcastro> I think most people return on saturday
[17:50] <asac> thanks
[17:59] <asac> Ubulette: you have the bug id for the background thing in your head?
[18:00] <asac> oh firefox full text search is great :)
[18:03] <asac> Ubulette: ok attached more info to it :)
[18:12] <Ubulette> [17:02] <Ubulette> it was not the black bug, but a performance related bug
[18:21] <Ubulette> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5413/
[18:44] <asac> yeah
[18:44] <asac> that testcase is not yet adapted to show the bug that strikes us
[18:44] <asac> the pad and reflect one are not causing this according to cworth
[19:13] <Laibsch> I am not yet so familiar with mozilla bug triage procedure
[19:14] <Laibsch> Looks like it is special (and somewhat incomprehensibly written IMHO)
[19:14] <asac_> Laibsch: what do you want to know
[19:14] <asac_> where are you looking at :)?
[19:14] <Laibsch> In any case, I was wondering how to alert somebody to make a decision whether or not a bug report contains expected behaviour or is a wontfix case
[19:14] <asac_> asking here is a good start
[19:15] <Laibsch> bug 144560
[19:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144560 in mozilla-firefox "doesn't prompt for certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144560
[19:15] <asac_> i am usually in the channel
[19:15] <[reed]> WHAT THE?
[19:15] <Laibsch> 1) Why is there no cc for a mozilla team contact on that bug?
[19:15] <[reed]> Microsoft wants to buy Red Hat?
[19:15]  * [reed] sad
[19:15] <asac_> Laibsch: "Mozilla Bugs"
[19:15] <asac_> is subscribed
[19:16] <asac_> [reed]: really?
[19:16] <[reed]> check google news
[19:16] <[reed]> search for microsoft red hat
[19:16] <asac_> rumour or fact?
[19:16] <[reed]> see the news
[19:16] <[reed]> hmm
[19:16] <Laibsch> asac: sorry, my oversight
[19:17] <Laibsch> asac: Maybe you can close that one with the appropriate response
[19:17] <Laibsch> I believe the OP reports expected behaviour
[19:17] <[reed]> ok, what the?
[19:17] <[reed]> I think I got bad news
[19:17] <[reed]> er
[19:17] <[reed]> bad input
[19:17] <[reed]> anyway
[19:17] <asac_> [reed]: so its ok that i can't find anything?
[19:18] <[reed]> yeah, I think... this guy doesn't usually make things up
[19:18] <[reed]> I'll look more into it
[19:19] <[reed]> ah, my source had a bad source
[19:19] <[reed]> :p
[19:19] <[reed]> oh well
[19:19] <[reed]> n/m! sorry for the scare!
[19:19] <Ubulette> lol
[19:20] <asac> Laibsch: if you want to help on firefox bugs, please help on firefox-3.0 bugs
[19:20] <asac> firefox will sink soon :)
[19:25] <[reed]> asac: got b4 ready?
[19:26] <Ubulette> http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/03/prism-09-now-as-a-firefox-extension/
[19:26] <Ubulette> i've packaged b4~rc1 a few days ago
[19:29] <Ubulette> [reed], ^^
[19:29] <[reed]> cool
[19:29] <[reed]> ETA was supposed to be today, but due to a Windows PGO issue, that might change
[19:30] <asac> good ... we will roll them on monday i guess
[19:31] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 418926
[19:31] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 418926 in Build & Release "Tracking bug for Build and Release of FF3.0beta4 (Gecko 1.9b4)" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418926
[19:42] <Ubulette> asac, any news for ff3 locales ?
[19:44] <asac> yeah ... we have a -de.po export for xulrunner + firefox
[19:44] <asac> and we have an algorithm that would convert that into .xpi
[19:44] <asac> and two volunteers from -mobile that want to implement that ;)
[19:44] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/LaunchpadTranslationSupport
[19:45] <asac> but no ETA
[19:45] <asac> just that it should there hopefully won't be much problems along the way ... otherwise things will get really messy ;)
[19:46] <Ubulette> ok
[20:09] <asac> firefox hangs more frequently for me starting today
[20:09] <asac> maybe thats cairo?
[20:10] <asac> hmm ... maybe it started when i build with in-source jpeg :/
[20:20] <[reed]> bah, just found a security problem with logrotate
[20:20] <[reed]> hmm
[20:20] <asac> Ubulette: do you see the background issue with ati opensource driver as well?
[20:20] <asac> or just fglrx
[20:20] <asac> ?
[20:21] <Ubulette> i dont know. I'm using fglrx because the opensource driver was too slow when I've installed that box
[20:37] <Ubulette> damn, I can't use anything using pulseaudio (/w or /wo esd) once i've played a flash sound/video in ff3
[20:44] <Ubulette> asac, this is seriously broken
[20:58] <asac> yes. i think its known that pulseaudio is broken
[21:01] <Ubulette> my troubles started 2 or 3 weeks ago
[21:02] <Ubulette> on both boxes
[21:06] <Ubulette> all is fine until I play a youtube video or another flash audio/video content
[21:06] <Ubulette> i guess our /etc/firefox3*/* stuff is broken
[21:06] <asac> would be interesting to see if the issue exists in firefox 2 as well
[21:07] <asac> Ubulette: i am pretty sure that firefoxrc is not considered anymore
[21:07] <Ubulette> me too, i don't see what reads it
[21:10] <asac> but does it help to start firefox manually with a sound wrapper?
[21:11] <asac> like aoss /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b3/firefox
[21:11] <asac> or esdcompat /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b3/firefox
[21:12] <asac> looks like that is the wrong wrapper
[21:12] <asac> no idea
[21:13] <Ubulette> aoss puts me at 100% cpu
[21:15] <Ubulette> and it still doesn't work
[21:15] <Ubulette> esdcompat is not a wrapper but a daemon
[21:30] <Laibsch> asac: Can I install FF3 alongside normal FF?
[21:31] <Ubulette> you can, but you can't run both at the same time
[21:32] <Laibsch> That is OK.  I'd only want FF3 for testing bugs as asac suggested
[21:32] <Ubulette> hhm, you're not using hardy ?
[21:32] <Laibsch> What I don't want is for the FF3 install to interfere with my regular FF browsing
[21:32] <Laibsch> not yet
[21:32] <Laibsch> still on gutsy
[21:33] <Ubulette> oh, then it's different
[21:33] <Laibsch> Is FF3 default on hardy?
[21:33] <Ubulette> you can install & run both at the same time
[21:33] <Ubulette> yes
[21:38] <asac> Laibsch: ffox 3 beta3 should be in -backports
[21:38] <asac> install from there
[22:31] <Ubulette> asac, i'm not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=717945
[22:33] <asac> does starting with aoss help?
[22:33] <asac> without that info i have no pointer
[22:34] <asac> does the same bug exist when running gnash would be another valuable info
[22:34] <asac> i still haven't received answers for these simple questions :)
 aoss puts me at 100% cpu
 and it still doesn't work
[22:36] <asac> k
[22:36] <asac> did you start the process directly
[22:36] <asac> or the script?
[22:36] <Ubulette> directly
[22:36] <asac> k
[22:37] <asac> bug 199066
[22:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199066 in network-manager "wireless support broken since 0.6.6~rc2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199066
[22:41] <Ubulette> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=717914
[22:43] <Ubulette> http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/03/playing-music-not-getting-sound-in.html
[22:44] <asac> bug 199066
[22:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199066 in network-manager "wireless support broken since 0.6.6~rc2" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199066
[22:44] <Ubulette> hm, libflashsupport
[22:44] <asac> just invalidated :) ... hehe
[22:45] <asac> whats libfrashsupport
[22:45] <Ubulette> donno
[22:45] <Ubulette> trying
[22:45] <Ubulette> Support library for sound output of Flash 9 with pulseaudio
[22:46] <Ubulette> http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/43
[22:46] <asac> what happens if you uninstall that?
[22:47] <Ubulette> i've just installed it
[22:48] <asac> ah
[22:48] <asac> does that help?
[22:49] <Ubulette> yes
[22:49] <asac> ok
[22:49] <Ubulette> it rocks !
[22:49] <asac> isn't that a dependency of flashplugin-nonfree noadays?
[22:49] <asac> nowadays
[22:49] <asac> it is
[22:49] <asac> apparently you are not using the package
[22:49] <asac> shame on you
[22:50] <Ubulette> strange
[22:50] <asac> as usual: better run distro stuff ;)
[22:50] <Ubulette> oh, it's in my user profile
[22:51] <asac> whats strange?
[22:51] <asac> yay
[22:51] <asac> wipe it ... use plugin finder dialog to install it
[22:51] <asac> ... ah right you wiped ubufox
[22:51] <asac> then you have to it manually
[22:51] <Ubulette> my home dir is from my previous box, built in 1998
[22:52] <asac> your flash should be pretty old as well then ;)
[22:52] <asac> ok lets search for bugs and close them :)
[22:53] <Ubulette> that was debian bo or hamm
[22:53] <Ubulette> then all the following
[22:53] <Ubulette> as unstable
[22:53] <Ubulette> then ubuntu edgy
[22:53] <Ubulette> and all the +1 since
[23:00] <asac> bug 199666
[23:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199666 in firefox-3.0 "add apport hooks from firefox 2 package" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199666
[23:06] <Ubulette> what laptops are good those days ?
[23:06] <Ubulette> i want to renew mine
[23:09] <Ubulette> hm, now I have ff3 taking 30% cpu while i'm not touching it
[23:09] <Ubulette> a youtube page
[23:09] <Ubulette> damn, flash
[23:13] <xhaker> Ubulette: about laptops.. I'm typing on a dell xps m1330
[23:16] <Ubulette> 13" ?
[23:30] <Ubulette> xhaker, is the wifi supported ?
[23:30] <xhaker> 13", and iwl3945
[23:31] <xhaker> it's one of the laptops dell sells with ubuntu preinstalled
[23:32] <asac> Ubulette: i hav e 12" lenovo now
[23:32] <asac> thats decent
[23:32] <asac> but might be too small
[23:33] <asac> yeah the 13" dell is good as well i guess
[23:33] <asac> or the 12" ... which unfortunately doesn't ship with ubuntu ... and in germany even only for business customers ;)
[23:34] <Ubulette> the laptop i'm using at work is a dell
[23:34] <Ubulette> I've had 2 HP and 3 toshiba before
[23:35] <xhaker> Ubulette: i'm a fan of the dell d630
[23:35] <asac> wait a bit and get the X300 lenovo
[23:36] <xhaker> Ubulette: they're more sturdy. 14" and you can get it with 1400x900 resolution
[23:40] <Ubulette> i have a hard time finding lenovo here
[23:42] <Ubulette> hm, even the XPS M1530 (15") seems to be 1280x800
[23:42] <Ubulette> and vista only
[23:43] <asac> with the 15" ubuntu laptop you can upgrade to 1440x900 here
[23:43] <asac> for 30E
[23:44] <xhaker> Ubulette: latitude d630 or xps m1330 were my options.. they're both good options imo
[23:44] <Ubulette> on dell.fr, ubuntu is only for the 13"
[23:44] <asac> we had that for a week here as well
[23:44] <asac> then they readded teh 15'
[23:45] <asac> i wanted to order one for my mother
[23:45] <asac> but couldn't be because there was only the XPS
[23:45] <asac> now there is the inspiron back
[23:45] <asac> yes, you can upgrade the M1530 to 1440x900 here as well
[23:45] <asac> same for the M1330
[23:49] <Ubulette> inspiron with ubuntu is there
[23:49] <Ubulette> it's an intel video chip
[23:49] <asac> yeah thats good
[23:49] <asac> or do you want ATI :-P?
[23:50] <Ubulette> nope
[23:50] <Ubulette> I kind of like nvidia on my desktop
[23:50] <asac> intel is decent
[23:50] <asac> at least if you are not into gamin :)
[23:58] <Ubulette> Minicard Intel® Pro/Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors, what's that ? is that good ?