pwnguinwho wrote the screen&graphics program?01:05
pwnguinah, found it. displayconfig-gtk01:08
ubotuNew bug: #199337 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "External monitor stays black when hotplugging with Acer laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19933702:21
ubotuNew bug: #199359 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[hardy] DRI not working with fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19935903:36
desertcPhoronix is releasing an open source benchmarking suite.04:59
desertc... for graphics04:59
desertcThis will be a big step forward toward being able to discuss practical numbers for comparison.05:00
ubotuNew bug: #157556 in ubuntu "consoles are blank with framebuffers (dup-of: 129910)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15755607:06
pwnguinpeoplezwell neat09:24
pwnguini guess that gives my brainstorm submission a bit more weight ;)09:24
pwnguinwell, so far they're only releasing the stuff to make graphics from results09:27
ubotuNew bug: #191508 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[nvidia] compiz doesn't show shadows, works with manual driver install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19150810:30
pwnguinso what all do i need to do to get an onscreen keyboard for gdm?10:45
tjaaltontry #ubuntu-desktop..10:56
ubotuNew bug: #199075 in compiz (main) "Compiz crashes the system (dup-of: 151168)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19907510:56
ubotuNew bug: #192407 in linux-source-2.6.22 (restricted) "Thinkpad T61 crashes on resume from suspend" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19240711:41
ubotuNew bug: #199458 in xorg (main) "cannot use refresh rate of 100Hz with Sony Multiscan G200 + Nvidia FX5200 (WinXp works)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19945812:56
asactjaalton: bryce: how can i figure the driver used for a display?14:25
asacif not driver, maybe i can figure the accellmethod used?14:25
asac(at best programmatically)14:25
tjaaltonasac: I don't think there's a better way than parsing the log :/14:27
tjaaltonrandr might support it some time14:28
asacisn't there an property or something :(14:31
asactjaalton: xdpyinfo displays a bunch of extensions. maybe i can guess something from that?14:32
asactjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5404/14:32
asacthats hat it spits out for me14:32
asacok at least we could figure fglrx from that i guess :)14:33
ubotuNew bug: #199486 in xinit (main) "ConsoleKit integration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19948614:41
asactjaalton: i would like to hack a bit on xservers xaa code ... how can i do that without trashing my install?15:39
asac(e.g. the question is: how to best build upstream code, while not wiping my existing install)15:39
jcristauasac: http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2008/02/building-and-installing-drmdrix-stack.html16:01
jcristauthat might help16:01
ubotuNew bug: #199551 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Fullscreen presentation is only shown on half a screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19955117:56
tjaaltonasac: xdpyinfo doesn't seem to reveal the driver, at least not directly :/17:58
asacyeah ... cworth said that such info is currently not exposed by xserver18:02
asacwould need to be added18:02
asactjaalton: ^^18:02
jcristaui don't think there's any plan to add that18:03
tjaaltonwell, it could prove useful.. sometimes :)18:23
tjaaltoncan't think of a use case for myself though18:24
bryceit's a question that's come up a number of times, for various reasons18:30
bryce(usually due to a need to work around some driver-specific problem or other)18:30
jcristaubut then you end up with a pile of workarounds which stay around longer than the driver bugs18:38
brycejcristau: in each case they ended up using the parse-Xorg.0.log, so not providing that data did not achieve that stability-through-secrecy aim18:52
jcristauwell i don't think it's about secrecy. more about not encouraging broken things like that.  and you don't have access to Xorg.0.log if you're a remote client :)18:54
bryceI think there is value in having increased information such as the driver for testing purposes18:55
bryceI've run into this answer before ("not wishing to encourage misuse") but there are definitely legitimate uses for having such info18:56
bryceplus, there are drivers we cannot easily fix, so we have no choices but to work around the issues18:57
jcristauanyway. /me goes back to uploading this week's new releases18:58
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ubotuNew bug: #196596 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Suspend fails on Sony Vaio SZ650, nVidia 8400M GS and nvidia-glx-new" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19659619:18
tjaaltonjcristau: bug 38939 seems similar to the bug you mentioned19:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 38939 in xorg-server "MPlayer receives BadAlloc when playing very large movies using Xv" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3893919:32
tjaaltonhuh, so RH has had two patches for libx11, the other for a bug that has 17 dupes20:14
tjaaltondefinately going to include them20:15
brycenow that  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer prompts for video settings, what should we advise for users needing to workaround areas where configuration cannot be done automatically?  23:08
ubotuNew bug: #199671 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Hibernate fails on Asus F5N laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19967123:34

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