[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> X9nLinux1: glad you haven't left
[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i think what you will have to do is use the livecd to resize and move those partitions
[00:10] <Daisuke_Ido> (since you can't move or resize them when they're mounted)
[00:10] <X9nLinux1> Yup, still here.
[00:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know how OS X demands space though, so i can't guarantee anything
[00:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if OS X won't install on the freed space, it would probably be both quicker and easier to start from scratch, installing OS X first
[00:11] <X9nLinux1> Once 'something' is available it at least gives me a fighting chance to sort that part out
[00:11] <Daisuke_Ido> again, i'm no expert in powerpc, so grain of salt and all that
[00:12] <X9nLinux1> this is a secondary machine, so I don't have to be in a warp speed hurry either
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> that's always a plus :)
[00:12] <Daisuke_Ido> is that one of the old brightly-coloured berry imacs?
[00:12] <X9nLinux1> frankly, part of this is to get used to handling the two systems.
[00:13] <X9nLinux1> no, its a dark blue color.  Just a regular imac
[00:13] <X9nLinux1> I don't do those flower power things
[00:13] <Daisuke_Ido> heh.  that was just a complete side thing...  i'm considering acquiring an imac at some point
[00:13] <X9nLinux1> Well, do you like to work on your machine much?
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't work on it much
[00:14] <X9nLinux1> if the answer is yes, I wouldn't do an imac ever again.  They are a royal pita to open up until you finally get used to them
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, no, i was just looking for an imac for fun
[00:15] <X9nLinux1> For working on them, I love the old beige boxes, whip the cover off and start throwing new stuff in and out.  Still running one (g3) right now even.
[00:15] <X9nLinux1> am seriously entertaining trying to see if I can get dapper to install on one of those even.  Maybe I like that kind of self flogging
[00:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what i have now i built myself, and i wouldn't trade it, just playing with an imac would be interesting for me (i haven't actually *used* a mac since system 7)
[00:16] <stond> can some one what to type in terminal to change premission of my removeable media device some how i changed it and now i cant move create or delete files on my PSP memomry card and i dont knoow what i did to change it
[00:17] <stond> can some one what to type in terminal to change premission of my removeable media device some how i changed it and now i cant move create or delete files on my PSP memomry card and i dont know what i did to change it
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> !repeat | stond
[00:17] <ubotu> stond: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:17] <x_link> Hi dear Kubuntu-users!
[00:18] <x_link> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[00:18] <vinegaroon> stond: you probably need to remount it
[00:18] <x_link> That has always installed the nvidia-driver for me.
[00:18] <X9nLinux1> Well, I'll go explore the live cd to see if it will behave.  If all else fails, there's always a reinstall.  Thanks
[00:18] <X9nLinux1> Warning: Gloating dad syndrome here!
[00:18] <x_link> I just re-installed my system. But that doesn't install nvidia now for me.
[00:18] <X9nLinux1> oops, sorry about the extra
[00:18] <x_link> Does anybody know why?
[00:19] <vinegaroon> x_link: have you tried using the restricted drivers manager?
[00:19] <x_link> No?
[00:19] <x_link> But this has always worked fine for me.
[00:20] <vinegaroon> x_link: try running the restricted drivers manager it's in the system menu
[00:20] <x_link> Okey, I will try to find it.
[00:21] <x_link> I don't find it.
[00:22] <murat> i've got some problems with firefox and opera. i couldn't connect any page. can somebody help me ?
[00:22] <vinegaroon> x_link: try looking in system settings
[00:22] <stond> can some one what to type in terminal to change premission of my removeable media device some how i changed it and now i cant move create or delete files on my PSP memomry card and i dont know what i did to change it
[00:23] <crxyem> anyone ever use the upgrade wizard in adept for a dist update/upgrade ??
[00:23] <vinegaroon> stond: try replugging in the card
[00:23] <vinegaroon> murat: are you connected to the internet?
[00:24] <crxyem> stond, the command is chown, sudo chown look at tha man pages for usages
[00:24] <crxyem> if in fact you change the owner
[00:24] <vinegaroon> cryxem: I generally edit /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade
[00:25] <crxyem> but it's essentially the same thing correct.
[00:25] <crxyem> that's what I've done in the past
[00:25] <x_link> crxyem: I'm in System Settings now.
[00:25] <vinegaroon> x_link: it might be in the advanced tab
[00:26] <crxyem> x_link what are you reffereing to ??
[00:26] <crxyem> I don't think I'm aware of your question
[00:27] <x_link> crxyem: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new, I have always used that to install the nvidia-driver. I just installed it as well. But when I restart X I don't get the nvidia-logo.
[00:27] <murat> yes i am connected to internet
[00:28] <crxyem> ah
[00:28] <vinegaroon> murat: what is the error you're getting?
[00:28] <bobby55> x_link: if you want to test to see if the nvidia drivers have installed.. open a terminal and type    glxgears
[00:28] <bobby55> sorry for butting in mid-conversation
[00:28] <vinegaroon> x_link: you might need to update your xorg.conf, try nvidia-xconfig
[00:29] <x_link> BAAAH
[00:29] <murat> i am not connecting some where
[00:29] <x_link> Forgot to change "nv" to "nvidia"
[00:29] <x_link> =)
[00:29] <roby> hello
[00:29] <murat> it is just a blank page
[00:29] <vinegaroon> x_link: :)
[00:29] <x_link> haha
[00:29] <murat> there is nothing else
[00:29] <crxyem> is it all website or just one specific ??
[00:30] <vinegaroon> murat: have you tried going to www.google.com or something?
[00:30] <x_link> Thanks!
[00:31] <murat> yes
[00:31] <vinegaroon> murat: and it just gives a blank page?
[00:32] <murat> yes
[00:33] <crxyem> well bbiab , going to do a dist-upgrade
[00:35] <vinegaroon> murat: what release are you running?
[00:35] <murat> kubuntu 7.10
[00:36] <vinegaroon> murat: what extensions?
[00:36] <vinegaroon> murat: in firefox
[00:37] <yao_ziyua1> i feel that irc is a kind of productivity even greater than wiki and is ideal for product support
[00:37] <murat> version 2.0.0.6
[00:37] <yao_ziyua1> microsoft fears to use irc for tech support because it fears the users would exchange product keys
[00:39] <murat> ??
[00:39] <vinegaroon> murat: well I don't know if it will fix it but you could upgrade your packages
[00:40] <murat> how can i do that ?
[00:41] <murat> i need a true source.list
[00:41] <vinegaroon> murat: open adept manager
[00:41] <murat> i think mine has got some problems
[00:41] <murat> ok
[00:41] <vinegaroon> and go fetch updates
[00:44] <IceGuest_75> hi everybody
[00:45] <Luis> Can someone please point me to a documentation to run kubuntu from a flash drive? I already have the iso.
[00:45] <murat> fetch updates are waiting on % 24
[00:45] <murat> is it normal ?
[00:46] <vinegaroon> murat: it's probably fine
[00:47] <vinegaroon> Luis: I haven't used this but it looks right http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089474.0
[00:49] <Luis> vinegaroon: thank you, it looks exactly what I am looking for.
[00:49] <vinegaroon> Luis: no problem
[00:52] <Daisuke_Ido> aww yeah
[00:52] <Daisuke_Ido> finally got kde4 behaving the way i wanted it to :)
[00:54] <murat> it is still waiting on %24
[00:54] <vinegaroon> hmm maybe a different method would be better
[00:54] <vinegaroon> ok
[00:54] <vinegaroon> close adept
[00:54] <murat> ok
[00:55] <vinegaroon> and run sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[00:55] <murat> i am wondering that if there is something wrong in my source.list ?
[00:56] <vinegaroon> I could take a look if you want
[00:56] <vinegaroon> pastebin it
[00:56] <murat> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:56] <murat> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[00:56] <murat> it is the error which the console is giving me
[00:56] <vinegaroon> ah adept probably left some apt process running
[00:57] <vinegaroon> sudo killall apt-get
[00:57] <murat> apt-get: no process killed
[00:57] <vinegaroon> ah what's the output of ps aux |grep apt
[00:58] <murat> ??
[00:58] <murat> excuse me ?
[00:58] <vinegaroon> run the command ps aux |grep apt
[00:58] <sd32> did you uncheck the cd rom as a source in the repository list?
[00:58] <murat> and ?
[00:58] <vinegaroon> what does it say?
[00:58] <murat> what should i say to you ?
[00:59] <vinegaroon> what does the console say after you run that command?
[00:59] <murat> there are a lot of things
[00:59] <murat> murat     5753  0.3  4.0  74852 31204 ?        S    19:17   0:07 kopete -caption Kopete -icon kopete -miniicon kopete
[00:59] <murat> murat     5947  0.3  3.0  71540 23296 ?        S    19:20   0:07 konversation -caption Konversation -icon konversation -miniicon konversation
[00:59] <murat> root      6959  0.0  0.2   5104  1772 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6960  0.0  0.2   5108  1800 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6961  0.0  0.2   5108  1772 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6962  0.0  0.2   5104  1768 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6963  0.0  0.2   5108  1776 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <vinegaroon> ah ok. Can you copy paste it into http://paste-ubuntu.nl.org ?
[01:00] <sd32> saw this  comming
[01:00] <murat> root      6964  0.0  0.2   5108  1772 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6965  0.0  0.2   5104  1768 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <vinegaroon> instead of pasting it here
[01:00] <murat> root      6966  0.0  0.2   5104  1784 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6967  0.0  0.2   5104  1768 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/http
[01:00] <murat> root      6968  0.0  0.2   4912  1580 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/cdrom
[01:00] <murat> root      6970  0.0  0.1   4924  1544 ?        S    19:42   0:00 /usr/lib/apt/methods/gpgv
[01:00] <murat> murat     7132  0.4  2.7  34784 21616 ?        S    19:48   0:02 d3lphin -icon d3lphin -miniicon d3lphin -caption Dolphin system:/media
[01:00] <murat> root      7513  0.0  0.0   2972   748 pts/1    R+   19:58   0:00 grep apt
[01:00] <murat> the console is saying me this
[01:01] <murat> ok
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> don't do that again
[01:01] <root____> millere
[01:01] <murat> sorry
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | murat
[01:01] <ubotu> murat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:01] <vinegaroon> ok then. If you think your sources.list is bad put it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I'll take a look
[01:01] <murat> Unknown host paste-ubuntu.nl.org
[01:01] <murat> it says me
[01:02] <vinegaroon> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:02] <murat> ok
[01:02] <murat> sorry again
[01:02] <murat> i am new on this
[01:02] <murat> and i am really sorry
[01:03] <vinegaroon> :)
[01:03] <sd32> everyone does it once
[01:03] <murat> i did it
[01:04] <murat> iam feeling silly. is it normal ? :)
[01:04] <fIame`afk> kubuntu > ubuntu ?
[01:04] <murat> kubuntu
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> fIame`afk: not an argument to be had here
[01:04] <sd32> your feeling akward
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> because they have the same base system, which makes it into a kde vs. gnome flamefest
[01:05] <fIame`afk> :/
[01:05] <fIame`afk> im not that 1337 to understand: "kde vs. gnome flamefest"
[01:06] <sd32> murat: just learn by your mistakes and you will be fine :-)
[01:06] <fIame`afk> but nevermind
[01:06] <murat> so what about my source.list ?
[01:06] <murat> i am learnig this with hard way :)
[01:07] <vinegaroon> go to the pastebin link
[01:07] <vinegaroon> and paste your sources.list into the text box there
[01:07] <asobi> has anyone gotten real media to play in kaffeine?
[01:07] <vinegaroon> asobi: yes
[01:08] <asobi> elaborate please
[01:08] <vinegaroon> asobi: oh do you mean real as in realplayer type stuff?
[01:08] <asobi> .rm etc
[01:08] <vinegaroon> oh
[01:08] <vinegaroon> no then
[01:08] <asobi> what did you think i meant?
[01:08] <fIame`afk> :D
[01:08] <vinegaroon> real as opposed to imaginery
[01:08] <asobi> ...
[01:08] <vinegaroon> lol
[01:09] <murat> ok
[01:09] <asobi> did you take your meds this morning? =P
[01:09] <murat> i did it too
[01:10] <vinegaroon> murat: so you pasted it in?
[01:10] <murat> yeap
[01:10] <vinegaroon> ok so do you have a link?
[01:11] <larroyo> #masterxxxpasswords
[01:11] <murat> http://paste.lisp.org/display/57008
[01:13] <vinegaroon> murat: that should be ok you've just got a few things twice
[01:13] <vinegaroon> murat: but that shouldn't matter
[01:13] <murat> so what is the problem ?
[01:14] <vinegaroon> murat: try running sudo apt-get update again
[01:14] <murat> i did it this morning
[01:14] <vinegaroon> ok
[01:14] <murat> and it takes a lot of time
[01:15] <vinegaroon> k
[01:15] <vinegaroon> now sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:15] <murat> 0 upgraded
[01:18] <vinegaroon> murat: didn't you say you were running version 2.0.0.6 of firefox?
[01:18] <murat> yes
[01:19] <vinegaroon> hmm ok I'm just editing a new sources.list for you
[01:20] <murat> so thank you :)
[01:21] <vinegaroon> do you know what packages you have/want from "http://www.gnugadu.org" ?
[01:22] <vinegaroon> or why it's in your sources.list
[01:23] <murat> what language is this ?
[01:24] <vinegaroon> don't know
[01:24] <murat> me too
[01:24] <vinegaroon> anyway I don't think it should be in your sources.list
[01:25] <murat> so what should be in my source. list ?
[01:26] <murat> you said you are editing a source.list for me, didn't you ?
[01:26] <vinegaroon> yes. Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58824/
[01:27] <murat> ok i pasted it to my source.list
[01:27] <leo_rockw> greetings #kubuntu
[01:27] <murat> now what should i do ?
[01:28] <vinegaroon> murat: sudo apt-get update
[01:28] <murat> it gives me the same error
[01:29] <murat> couldn't get lock bla bla
[01:29] <vinegaroon> ok paste the errors into another pastebin
[01:30] <murat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58825/
[01:30] <vinegaroon> now paste the output of ps aux
[01:31] <murat> ps aux ?
[01:31] <vinegaroon> yeah run that command
[01:31] <murat> ok ok
[01:31] <leo_rockw> murat: are you running adept?
[01:32] <leo_rockw> or synaptic? or installing smth else in another konsole (with aptitude or apt-get)?
[01:32] <murat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58826/
[01:32] <murat> no i am not
[01:32] <spiroo> How do I fix, so I can watch quicktime inside firefox?
[01:32] <murat> i mean not now
[01:33] <leo_rockw> murat: ok, yeah i meant now.
[01:33] <vinegaroon> murat: sudo kill 7860
[01:34] <murat> it didn't make any change
[01:35] <vinegaroon> so it didn't say anything?
[01:35] <murat> yes
[01:35] <vinegaroon> try running sudo apt-get update again
[01:35] <murat> ok
[01:36] <murat> it is waiting on % 0
[01:36] <murat> should i wait ?
[01:36] <vinegaroon> yes
[01:36] <murat> ok i am waiting
[01:36] <vinegaroon> ok
[01:39] <murat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58828/
[01:39] <murat> please look at tihs
[01:39] <murat> it is not finished
[01:39] <murat> but it is saying tihis again and again
[01:41] <leo_rockw> murat: can you browse sites without a problem?
[01:41] <murat> ?
[01:42] <leo_rockw> well, i had a dns problem and i couldn't access any site and i used to get the same error messages
[01:42] <leo_rockw> it was just that dns couldn't be resolved
[01:42] <murat> at this time
[01:42] <murat> i am connecting sites with konquerere
[01:42] <leo_rockw> and they work? you don't get a timeout there?
[01:43] <murat> konquerere is working
[01:43] <murat> konqueror
[01:43] <leo_rockw> ok
[01:43] <ubuntu_> I am about to install 7.10 on my new system I just built tonight (on a live CD now)
[01:43] <ubuntu_> However, I have a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[01:44] <ubuntu_> will that be a probblem?
[01:45] <vinegaroon> murat: I think you have some bigger issue.. I don't think it should be saying security.ubuntu.com:80 with the port like that
[01:45] <leo_rockw> vinegaroon: port 80 is just the regular port
[01:45] <vinegaroon> leo_rockw: I know, but does it say the port for you if you run apt-get update ?
[01:45] <ubuntu_> does kubuntu support bluetooth keyboards and mice?
[01:46] <vinegaroon> and look at the IPs it is outputting
[01:46] <vinegaroon> ubuntu_: do they work in the live cd?
[01:46] <murat> so what should i do ?
[01:46] <ubuntu_> no
[01:47] <vinegaroon> murat: how are you connected to the internet?
[01:47] <leo_rockw> vinegaroon: not when it works. i don't remember if it said it when i had the dns problem
[01:47] <murat> with wired devices
[01:48] <leo_rockw> ubuntu_: kubuntu comes with support for bluetooth, but if they are not working with the livecd then idk if they will work in your final installation
[01:48] <ubuntu_> I had to use a spare 10+ years old keyboard and mouse
[01:48] <vinegaroon> murat: can you ping google.com ok?
[01:49] <ubuntu_> ok, I wanted to know for sure, cause I didnt really want to buy new ones
[01:49] <ubuntu_> spent enough on this machine
[01:49] <sotero> hi
[01:50] <sotero> have peoples from brasil?
[01:50] <leo_rockw> ubuntu_: i don't have any bluetooth device, so i  can't tell you for sure
[01:50] <leo_rockw> hi sotero
[01:50] <ubuntu_> well we are about equal, I have them and have never used them
[01:50] <ubuntu_> lol
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[01:50] <murat> how could i ping it ?
[01:51] <vinegaroon> ubuntu_: I've have got bluetooth to work in Kubuntu with my cellphone but I don't know about keyboard/mouse
[01:51] <vinegaroon> murat: just run the command ping google.com
[01:51] <murat> ok
[01:52] <murat> ok
[01:52] <murat> now ?
[01:52] <sotero> web cam for kubuntu?
[01:52] <sotero> gnome in kubuntu is ubunut?
[01:52] <sotero> ubuntu?
[01:52] <vinegaroon> murat: pastebin what it is saying
[01:52] <murat> ok
[01:53] <seishinbyou> I have a Buffalo USB wireless plugin device, and whenever I remove it, the system crashes.  Is this a known issue with some USB wireless dongles, or just this?
[01:53] <shadowhywind> hay all question, i forgot how to turn it off. But say in kedit/kate when i hit tab, it leaves a little charecter behind. A) whats the name B) how do i turn it off?
[01:53] <murat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58831/
[01:54] <vinegaroon> murat: that looks fine.. I'm not really sure how to help from here and I have to go.
[01:54] <murat> ok
[01:55] <deathwire> hi.  I have a problem with my kubuntu gutsy system where it doesn't detect when I insert usb devices such as flash drives and cameras, but on my kubuntu fiesty laptop, it works just fine.  (Note: my gutsy system is an upgraded fiesty system). any ideas?
[01:56] <sotero> yes
[01:56] <seishinbyou> other question, bluetooth is not popular in Japan and I wonder what people use it for in the west.  Is it a type of wireless USB?
[01:56] <sotero> i need conected web cam to
[01:56] <ubuntu_> how can I mount my hd through a live cd?
[01:57] <jhutchins> seishinbyou: Sortof.
[01:57] <sotero> kubuntu no have vmware more?
[01:57] <deathwire> seishinbyou, I use bluetooth to communicate to my cellphone: transfering images, ring tones, using it as a modem, etc
[01:57] <jhutchins> seishinbyou: It mostly connects headsets to cellphones, but there are a few other uses.
[01:58] <seishinbyou> Thanks.  I've actually never seen someone use a headset on a cellphone, but knew there were other uses, just not what, really.
[01:58] <ubuntu_> ?? How do I mount my hd using a live CD ??
[01:58] <deathwire> is there some group my user needs to be in to detect when devices are plugged in?  what is the program that should be running to check when the devices are plugged in?
[02:01] <deathwire> is there a way to downgrade to feisty?
[02:05] <deathwire> oh if I go to "media:/", everything is there
[02:05] <deathwire> so what's the name of the program that's supposed to pop-up when you plugin a device?
[02:06] <leo_rockw> deathwire: it's in the tip of my tongue, and I can't remember it!!
[02:10] <jhutchins> I don't think it's a seperate program, I think it's an internal KDE function.
[02:11] <leo_rockw> jhutchins: yeah, but it has a name
[02:11] <jhutchins> Ookay.
[02:11] <deathwire> is there a setting for it somewhere?
[02:12] <ubuntu_> I get this error when  try to mount my HD ...
[02:12] <ubuntu_> "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> deathwire: leo_rockw KDED
[02:13] <leo_rockw> nosrednaekim: thanks!
[02:13] <deathwire> looks like I have kded running: 1000      5868  0.0  0.3  33700  7480 ?        S    Mar06   0:02 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
[02:13] <leo_rockw> i knew it had a name, cuz mine was crashing when i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 and i had to fix it
[02:15] <deathwire> ok now it's working for me
[02:15] <deathwire> and I didn't even change anything
[02:29] <stupendo44> how do I get KNetworkManager to stop automatically adding my router under DNS. It's slowing everything down. Everytime I restart, it's back in there
[02:35] <jawee> how do I enable side scroll with my mouse
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> !mouse
[02:39] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:39] <ubuntu_> I get this error when  try to mount my HD ...
[02:39] <ubuntu_> "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999"
[02:40] <ubuntu_> ?? How do I mount my hd using a live CD ??
[02:41] <jmichaelx> i just downloaded the .tar.bz2 file for installing secondlife, but Ark is unable to unzip it. would anyone have an idea as to why? i am asking because i think this is more of an Ark issue than a seconflife issue.
[02:41] <jawee> jmichaelx: for now you can just do tar xfjv filename.tar.bz2
[02:42] <jawee> I never use GUI tools for extracting larger files as it hangs a bit sometimes
[02:42] <jmichaelx> jawee: are there any known issue with Ark/
[02:42] <jmichaelx> ?
[02:42] <jmichaelx> ok
[02:42] <jawee> jmichaelx: I'm not the person to ask, sorry. You can look on Launchpad though.
[02:42] <jmichaelx> jawee: ty
[02:42]  * Jucato remebers having no trouble bunzipping the SL client before
[02:42] <leo_rockw> jmichaelx: sometimes i unpack with ark and i get and error saying it didn't work, but in fact it does
[02:43] <Jucato> but that was long ago...
[02:43] <jmichaelx> leo_rockw: it didn't even give me an error
[02:43] <leo_rockw> ooo, ok
[02:43] <jmichaelx> Jucato: with the previous secondlife client, i had no issues.
[02:44] <Jucato> hm... must be new. did tar -xjvf work?
[02:44] <jmichaelx> jucato: yes, ithas only been out a few days
[02:44] <jmichaelx> Jucato: yes, it is working
[02:45] <Jucato> weird
[02:47] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: I had the same problem initially. What I did was first load up the partition manager to find out what the hard drive was called
[02:48] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: then I loaded up a terminal and used "sudo mount -t filesystemtype /dev/hda2"
[02:48] <stupendo44> ubuntu\
[02:49] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: filesystemtype would be something like ntfs if it's a Windows drive, or ext3 if it's Linux. And you have to mount it somewhere, so I created a folder with "mkdir" called hd1, then mounted it in there. just add the directory name to the end of the mount command
[02:49] <jmichaelx> weird that secondlife has no instructions for installing/upgrading except for the scant info inthe redme file
[02:51] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: my finished commands were like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58833/
[02:53] <jmichaelx> to upgrade something like secondlife, that is not installed via apt-get, should one just delete the dir it was installed to, and then just install again?
[02:53] <leo_rockw> jmichaelx: yes, unless the file you got is an upgrade and not a full install
[02:54] <jmichaelx> leo_rockw: ty much, it is afullinstall
[02:54] <leo_rockw> jmichaelx: np
[02:58] <ubuntu_> thanks stupendo44
[02:59] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: did it work for you?
[02:59] <ubuntu_> well, I typed "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 ~/hd1"
[02:59] <ubuntu_> and got command not found
[02:59] <stupendo44> you didn't use the quotes, did you?
[02:59] <stupendo44> you have to type it without the quotes
[03:00] <stupendo44> also, it may not be hda2
[03:00] <ubuntu_> no quotes
[03:00] <stupendo44> and did you create the "hda1" directory?
[03:00] <ubuntu_> it says that device does not exist
[03:01] <stupendo44> it may not be hda2
[03:01] <stupendo44> you have to find out first
[03:01] <stupendo44> first, is it a Windows partition you are trying to access?
[03:01] <ubuntu_> how do I do that?
[03:01] <ubuntu_> sorry, I'm a noobie
[03:02] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: which IRC program are you using?
[03:02] <stupendo44> let's talk in a PM for less noise
[03:02] <ubuntu_> konversation
[03:02] <stupendo44> ok
[03:02] <stupendo44> you should see a tab on the bottom with "stupendo44"
[03:02] <Jucato> (he can't PM/reply if his nick  is  not registered)
[03:02] <leo_rockw> stupendo44: only if he has a registered nickname
[03:03] <stupendo44> no way to PM unless he's registered?
[03:03] <ubuntu_> yeah, it wont let me talk
[03:03] <stupendo44> oh, well
[03:03] <Jucato> you can use the main channel. that's its purpose :)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> sorry
[03:03] <stupendo44> anyway
[03:03] <Jucato> second life discussion is offtopic anyway
[03:03] <stupendo44> no prob
[03:03] <stupendo44> first question, what kind of drive are you trying to access? Is it a Windows drive?
[03:04] <ubuntu_> yes (for now)
[03:04] <leo_rockw> stupendo44: there's a way for him to talk to you. you have to allow getting non registered users' pm. i don't remember how, check freenode's site
[03:04] <ubuntu_> I just want to grab data off of it so I can install linux
[03:04] <stupendo44> leo_rockw: thanks
[03:04] <leo_rockw> stupendo44: np
[03:05] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: where are you going to put the data?
[03:05] <ubuntu_> I have kopete
[03:05] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: but you
[03:05] <stupendo44> you're running off a livecd right?
[03:05] <ubuntu_> flash drive to another pc
[03:05] <stupendo44> ok
[03:05] <ubuntu_> yes
[03:05] <stupendo44> and that mounts fine, right?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> i guess I should ahve asked if flash drives work
[03:06] <stupendo44> generally they work fine
[03:06] <stupendo44> easiest things to get working, actually
[03:06] <ubuntu_> ok cool
[03:07] <stupendo44> ok, go to KMenu > System, and you should see KParted, I think
[03:07] <stupendo44> load that up
[03:07] <stupendo44> actually, it might be qtparted
[03:08] <stupendo44> yeah
[03:08] <ubuntu_> yep got it
[03:08] <stupendo44> ok, on the left what do you see?
[03:08] <stupendo44> /dev/hda?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> sda
[03:09] <stupendo44> ok
[03:09] <stupendo44> no hda's?
[03:09] <stupendo44> if you select sda, what shows up on the right side?
[03:10] <Jucato> I think starting gutsy, either Ubuntu or the kernel switched to using sda instead of hda for everything
[03:10] <ubuntu_> my hd comes up
[03:10] <stupendo44> ok, and how many different partitions are there?
[03:11] <stupendo44> and which one says ntfs?
[03:11] <ubuntu_> looks like 2
[03:11] <stupendo44> ok, tell me what they say
[03:11] <ubuntu_> strange though
[03:12] <ubuntu_> number 1: /dev/sda1 ntfs
[03:12] <ubuntu_> number 2: /dev/sda1 free
[03:13] <stupendo44> what's the size on each one?
[03:13] <ubuntu_> #1 233.75  &   #2 7.84
[03:13] <stupendo44> ok
[03:14] <stupendo44> then go to a terminal
[03:14] <ubuntu_> k
[03:14] <ubuntu_> there
[03:14] <stupendo44> don't type any of the quotes, just the command
[03:14] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:14] <stupendo44> type "cd ~"
[03:14] <stupendo44> the tilde is to the left of the 1
[03:14] <Daisuke-Ido> wait wait wait...  /dev/sda1 is showing as ntfs *and* free?
[03:15] <ubuntu_> gotcha
[03:15] <stupendo44> Daisuke-Ido: thanks, I didn't notice that. Why would that be?
[03:15] <cuznt> checking for GCC version... ./configure: 2732: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:15] <cuznt> any idea?
[03:15] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: type "mkdir windows"
[03:15] <ubuntu_> k
[03:15] <Daisuke-Ido> cuznt: try 'bash configure'
[03:16] <ubuntu_> done
[03:16] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 ~/windows"
[03:16] <cuznt> thank you
[03:16] <Daisuke-Ido> cuznt: that worked?
[03:16] <stupendo44> Daisuke-Ido: maybe it was a typo?
[03:17] <Daisuke-Ido> stupendo44: that's my guess
[03:17] <Daisuke-Ido> cuznt: what are you trying to compile?
[03:18] <Jucato> (or an error in the configure script)
[03:18] <stupendo44> Daisuke-Ido: help me out here. Does he have to be root in order to copy files from the newly mounted partition, or can he just not write?
[03:18] <Daisuke-Ido> to copy *from*?  he shouldn't have to be root, no
[03:19] <Jucato> depends on the permissions he used to mount though. specially if it's NTFS
[03:19] <stupendo44> ok, I guess we'll find out
[03:19] <Jucato> iirc simply mounting an NTFS partition requires root to even read
[03:19] <cuznt> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bewofthe/alsa-test-0.9.4/support'make[1]: Nothing to be done for `first_rule'
[03:19] <stupendo44> thanks
[03:20] <cuznt> my sound file
[03:20] <cuznt> from disk
[03:20] <ubuntu_> should I take a snapshot of my screen and show it to you?
[03:20] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: did something not turn out right? what happened?
[03:21] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: you can copy and paste the result on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:22] <cuznt> /bin/sh: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:22] <cuznt> make[1]: *** [sound.c] Error 2
[03:23] <ubuntu_> I was waiting to hear from you
[03:23] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: oh, sorry
[03:24] <ubuntu_> :o)   no prob
[03:24] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: so what happened
[03:24] <ubuntu_> what do you mean?
[03:24] <stupendo44> after the sudo mount command
[03:24] <ubuntu_> oh crap
[03:24] <stupendo44> were there any errors or anything
[03:25] <ubuntu_> sorry I totally missed that line you typed
[03:25] <stupendo44> :)
[03:25] <stupendo44> that'
[03:25] <stupendo44> that's all right
[03:25] <stupendo44> just remember, don't type the quotes. It screws everything up
[03:27] <ubuntu_> ok, nothing happend
[03:27] <stupendo44> but no errors
[03:27] <ubuntu_> it just dropps down to the prompt again
[03:27] <ubuntu_> no
[03:27] <stupendo44> no errors is good
[03:27] <stupendo44> type "cd windows"
[03:27] <stupendo44> then "dir"
[03:27] <ubuntu_> permissions denied
[03:27]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> Windows support is NOT here BTW guys
[03:28] <stupendo44> ok, type "sudo konqueror ~/windows"
[03:28] <Daisuke-Ido> is it really so much to ask for both kde and gnome to adopt a single location for their trash?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> wow
[03:29] <stupendo44> Daisuke-Ido: don't they both store it on the ntfs partition? :)
[03:29] <ubuntu_> allot of stuff
[03:29] <Daisuke-Ido> stupendo44: i'm being serious.
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: they can't agree
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> dumb.. I know
[03:29] <ubuntu_> lots of errors
[03:29] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: that should probably allow you to copy anything you need to the flash drive. When you plug in your flash drive, an icon should appear on the desktop
[03:30] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: just remember that because this is a liveCD, you would have to go through these steps if you restart the computer
[03:30] <stupendo44> Daisuke-Ido: I know, I'm sorry. I couldn't resist
[03:31] <ubuntu_> lots of errors
[03:32] <ubuntu_> permissions denied
[03:32] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: lemme guess, denied accessing Documents and Settings?
[03:32] <ubuntu_> windows
[03:32] <ubuntu_> cd windows
[03:33] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: right, you have to be root
[03:33] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: you could do "sudo su"
[03:33] <stupendo44> then try accessing it
[03:34] <ubuntu_> su
[03:34] <stupendo44> but either way, you'll probably be more confortable using konqueror to copy the files
[03:34] <ubuntu_> lol, oops.... wrong screen
[03:34] <ubuntu_> your right
[03:35] <ubuntu_> would you happen to know the password for root on the live cd?
[03:36] <stupendo44> um, is there one?
[03:36] <stupendo44> anybody else?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> I hope so
[03:36] <stupendo44> you can try ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:36] <ubuntu_> k
[03:36] <stupendo44> sometimes, it's just blank
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: there is no password for root
[03:36] <stupendo44> I'm not really sure
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> sudo has no password though
[03:37] <ubuntu_> tried, blank, root and guest
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> so you can do "sudo passwd"
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> and enter a new passwrd or root
[03:37] <stupendo44> nosrednaekim: thanks
[03:38] <ubuntu_> cool, it worked
[03:38] <ubuntu_> thanks
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> *password for root
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> ok... later guys
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> good luck
[03:38] <ubuntu_> thanks
[03:39] <ubuntu_> I wonder why I cant access the drive from KDE Konqueror
[03:39] <ubuntu_> but I can in konsol
[03:41] <stupendo44> what happens in konqueror
[03:41] <stupendo44> you have to be root in order to access it
[03:41] <stupendo44> some reason I don't, though
[03:41] <stupendo44> it works fine for me, but then again, I'm not on a livecd
[03:42] <stupendo44> so if you just try loading konqueror from the desktop, you'll get permission denied
[03:43] <ubuntu_> actually now it shows up as mounted
[03:43] <leo_rockw> what about sudo konqueror ?
[03:43] <Jucato> please use kdesu, not sudo
[03:43] <leo_rockw> konqueror should work w/o being root, tho. even on a live cd
[03:43] <ubuntu_> but gives me this...
[03:43] <ubuntu_> Could not enter folder /home/ubuntu/windows
[03:43] <leo_rockw> yeah, Jucato, you're right
[03:44] <stupendo44> Jucato: thanks. I was just about to recommend that
[03:44] <Jucato> stupendo44: perhaps you mounted your NTFS in fstab w/ the correct permissions/options
[03:44] <leo_rockw> i use kdesu myself, idk why i put sudo
[03:44] <Jucato> (or used ntfs-3g)
[03:44] <Jucato> leo_rockw: reflex action :P
[03:44] <leo_rockw> Jucato: most likely
[03:44] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: from the desktop, you can hit ALT + F2 and run "kdesu konqueror"
[03:45] <stupendo44> Jucato: no, I followed the same steps I gave him
[03:45] <Jucato> weird
[03:45] <stupendo44> I just added it to my fstab a second ago, but not until after I had tried what I told him
[03:45] <stupendo44> unless he ran "mkdir" under "sudo" for some reason. would that make a difference?
[03:46] <leo_rockw> that would make a difference
[03:46] <stupendo44> it doesn't seem to, I just tried it
[03:46] <stupendo44> I can access just fine, even if I create the directory under sudo
[03:47] <leo_rockw> weird
[03:47] <jombee> anyone else have a problem with the latest alpha of hardy where the right mouse button doesn't work at all
[03:47] <stupendo44> I wonder if the difference is that I'm not running off a livecd. I installed and created a password. granted, I'm not root though
[03:48] <ubuntu_> sheesh
[03:48] <ubuntu_> nothing
[03:48] <stupendo44> where? console or konqueror?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> konqueror
[03:49] <stupendo44> how'd you load konqueror? using kdesu?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> hey could it be that I have it open in konsole?
[03:50] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: I think it should still work
[03:50] <leo_rockw> no, that wouldn't be the problem
[03:50] <ubuntu_> k
[03:51] <ubuntu_> I opened konqueror through ALT+F2 and by clicking the computer next to the K-menu button
[03:52] <ubuntu_> niether one will open the drive
[03:52] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: what happens when you try to access ~/windows through the console
[03:53] <Jucato> ubuntu_: he said use "kdesu konqueror" in Alt+F2
[03:53] <stupendo44> try using "sudo su" at the terminal and then "cd ~/windows"
[03:53] <stupendo44> not generally a good idea, but it's just a test
[03:54] <ubuntu_> its blank screen when I click on media
[03:54] <ubuntu_> I am in windows in terminal
[03:55] <leo_rockw> if you're in windows in terminal try running konqueror .
[03:55] <leo_rockw> (notice the "." at the end)
[03:55] <ubuntu_> but it gives me "no such fill or dir" error
[03:55] <ubuntu_> thats what I have been trying to do
[03:56] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: try "cd ~/windows"
[03:56] <stupendo44> notice the tilde
[03:56] <ubuntu_> ok now the error is gone
[03:57] <ubuntu_> when I clcik on the drive it gives me a blank screen as if the drive is empty
[03:58] <stupendo44> which drive? where?
[03:59] <ubuntu_> media:/sda1   through konqueror
[04:00] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: you won't be able to access it through there. only through "~/windows" or "/home/ubuntu/windows" (same thing)
[04:00] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: that's why we mounted it
[04:00] <ubuntu_> sweet
[04:00] <Kubuntu_> does anyone here have problems with kopete hanging on msn and on devices?
[04:00] <ubuntu_> it just let me in
[04:01] <ubuntu_> I'm looking at my windows files
[04:02] <ubuntu_> too bad I cant burn a cd of my data
[04:02] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: you should be able to
[04:02] <ubuntu_> having only one dvd drive
[04:03] <ubuntu_> really?
[04:03] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: is it a burner?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> yeah
[04:03] <ubuntu_> could i make a virtual drive in memory?
[04:03] <stupendo44> once you load the cd burning app (can't remember what it's called) you should be able to take the ubuntu cd out and put in a blank. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I'm pretty sure
[04:04] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[04:04] <ubuntu_> worth a shot
[04:04] <stupendo44> k3b would be the app
[04:04] <stupendo44> under Multimedia
[04:04] <bobleny> Hey, is there a way to boot into my ubuntu via a flash drive?
[04:04] <ubuntu_> yes, I love that program
[04:05] <ubuntu_> yes bob through your BIOS
[04:05] <ubuntu_> if your flash drive is bootable
[04:05] <stupendo44> bobleny: http://www.pendrivelinux.com
[04:05] <ubuntu_> and your BIOS supports it
[04:06] <stupendo44> ubuntu_: let me know if it works out. If you change your username and register it, you can PM me
[04:08] <bobleny> Thats not quite what i'm looking for.... I would like to boot into ubuntu, bypassing the bootloader. Is there a way to do that?
[04:08] <Kubuntu_> how slow is pendrive linux
[04:09] <stupendo44> Kubuntu_: faster than a cd, depending on the speed of your pendrive. some are slow, some are fast. usually based on cost
[04:10] <stupendo44> bobleny: I don't understand, how can you bypass the bootloader. Isn't it required in order to know what to boot?
[04:12] <bobleny> I guess I wanto to fake a bootloader... I installed ubuntu without a bootloader and know I want to say, burn one onto a cd or something so I can load into ubuntu.
[04:12] <ubuntu_> cool ok
[04:15] <stupendo44> bobleny: well, I'm not sure exactly, but however you got it to start you can probably just copy right over to the pen drive. That's basically what the guide on pendrivelinux.com has you do. Maybe you can try to follow the guide most of the way, and modify it for your setup
[04:16] <Kubuntu_> !hardy
[04:16] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:17] <Kubuntu_> is there a specific date we should expect hardy?
[04:17] <bobleny> OK, thanks for the help. I'm off!
[04:19] <Kubuntu_> how do you uninstall something from source
[04:21] <Kubuntu_> !kernal
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <Kubuntu_> what exactly is a kernel
[04:22] <stupendo44> !kernel
[04:22] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[04:22] <Kubuntu_> oh i spelled it wrong lol
[04:22] <Kubuntu_> !headers
[04:22] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[04:22] <Erickj92> how do i restart my window manager in gusty when you have no taskbar icon?
[04:27] <biovore> Erickj92: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart your X session.
[04:27] <Erickj92> i dont wanna restart x
[04:38] <klobster> is there a kb shortcut to lock the session?
[04:38] <stupendo44> !flash
[04:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:38] <Jucato> klobster: Ctrl+Alt+L
[04:39] <Jucato> Erickj92: taskbar icon?
[04:39] <Erickj92> never mind, i got it
[04:39] <klobster> k thx!
[04:40] <moregreen> hey im on gnome right now but when i try to log in KDE i get blueness and a mouse thats it..
[04:42] <klobster> sweet sweet blueness.
[04:42] <moregreen> lol
[04:42] <klobster> moregreen: how are you trying to log into kde?
[04:42] <moregreen> thru the ubuntu login screen
[04:43] <moregreen> select sessions
[04:43] <klobster> how did you install kde?
[04:43] <moregreen> synaptic
[04:43] <moregreen> im on gutsy btw
[04:43] <klobster> i mean kde-desktop package?
[04:43] <moregreen> well i dont really know
[04:43] <moregreen> i had it workin
[04:44] <moregreen> today i tried and it stopped...
[04:44] <klobster> do you see the kde start up splash screen
[04:44] <klobster> ?
[04:44] <moregreen> no
[04:45] <moregreen> im thinking i should reinstall. how would i go about doing that
[04:46] <klobster> apt-get -remove kde-desktop && apt-get -install kde-desktop
[04:47] <klobster> but I am not sure that's a very "linux" way to solve the problem
[04:48] <moregreen> that && means "also do this line:"
[04:48] <moregreen> ?
[04:48] <moregreen> :P
[04:48] <klobster> yeah it does
[04:49] <moregreen> E: Command line option 'r' [from -remove] is not known.
[04:49] <moregreen> maybe try r?
[04:49] <moregreen> no...
[04:50] <klobster> doh! sorry no dash before remove or install
[04:50] <moregreen> yeah duh
[04:50] <moregreen> i just realized that
[04:50] <klobster> sorry, victim of syntax :/
[04:50] <moregreen> its not the code, its the syntax
[04:51] <moregreen> :P
[04:51] <moregreen> ok im tryin to reinstall it but its not in any sources
[04:51] <moregreen> "kde-desktop
[04:51] <moregreen> so what aliases could it go by
[04:52] <leo_rockw> kubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <klobster> ^^
[04:57] <moregreen> cool
[04:57] <moregreen> thanks guys
[04:57] <leo_rockw> moregreen: np
[04:59] <ForgeAus> leorock theres a minor issue you can't really use apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop because its a metapackage
[04:59] <ForgeAus> but I do recommend an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <ForgeAus> apt-get remove kubuntu desktop doesn't actually remove any apps just the kubuntu-desktop metapackage (which I guess you could essentially think of it as a wrapper)
[05:00] <ForgeAus> oops kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <Jucato> !puregnome
[05:02] <ubotu> If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[05:03] <moregreen> nice
[05:03] <moregreen> so fresh and so clean clean
[05:03] <coreymon77> !purekde
[05:03] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[05:04] <ForgeAus> Jucato does the "pure" thing alter bootsplashes and DM's and stuff? (ie does an ubuntu install converted using kubuntu-desktop, then purified by removing ubuntu-desktop specific packages, show the same bootsplashes, and kdm as kubuntu?
[05:05] <Jucato> I think it removes kdm as well. not sure about usplash stuff
[05:05] <ForgeAus> ok well sofar I've only had kubuntu and added ubuntu-desktop to it
[05:06] <ForgeAus> so I still booted in KDM and stuff
[05:06] <ForgeAus> I don't think I've tried GDM and Ubuntu's bootsplash before
[05:08] <dori> has anyone experienced troubles with launching different profiles of firefox (2.0.0.12) simultaneously on gutsy?
[05:11] <Arwen> I have a local APT repository on my machine
[05:11] <Arwen> I try to use "apt-get source" to copy sources from it
[05:11] <Arwen> it goes upstream and fetches a LOWER VERSIOn
[05:12] <Arwen> how to fix?
[05:12] <me> i cant get a dvd to play without being choppy audio video
[05:13] <me> I added libdvdcss
[05:13] <me> rebooted
[05:13] <Stoffer> what's a good virtual drive that'll mount iso files?
[05:13] <me> same prblem
[05:13] <Y-Town> Everytime I rebbot I seem to loose my bluetooth mouse and keyboard connection.  Is the a known fix for this problem?
[05:13] <Jucato> !iso | Stoffer
[05:13] <ubotu> Stoffer: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:13] <Jucato> (in short, you don't really need a virtual drive)
[05:13] <Stoffer> sweet
[05:14] <me> anyone good w/ dvd problems?
[05:14] <me> choppy
[05:14] <me> on all players
[05:14] <me> have tried everything from vlc, mplayer, Kafieene
[05:15] <Stoffer> ok...I did something wrong.  Anyone here ever use poweriso?
[05:15] <Stoffer> I tried converting a .daa file to a normal iso w/ poweriso, but it went from 800MB to 3.5MB...... something tells me that isn't right
[05:16] <me> anyone good w/ dvd playback issues?
[05:16] <me> my pron will not play.. this is an emergency... LMAO
[05:16] <me> jk
[05:16] <me> I can't play my X-files dvd
[05:18] <ali3n51> hello
[05:18] <ali3n51> how to restore the orignal login screen?
[05:19] <Y-Town> Everytime I reboot my computer or start from being turned off I seem to loose my bluetooth mouse and keyboard and have to sit there for a couple minutes trying to relink them.  Anyone else run into this or know a fix for the problem?
[05:20] <ali3n51> i can't activate kdmtheme
[05:21] <Roey> hi
[05:21] <Roey> I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 card and am running Gutsy Gibbon.  When I try to startx, X complains that it's using version 7185 where the Linux kernel module is at 7184.  I can't find packages to correct this.  What to do?
[05:23] <ali3n51> please help me to change my login screen
[05:31] <moregreen> hey guys
[05:31] <moregreen> i just restarted after installing kubuntu. it does the same blue screen stuff
[05:31] <moregreen> this time looks a little cooler
[05:31] <moregreen> and before, i didnt see kubuntu all over
[05:32] <moregreen> >but still no icons or menus
[05:32] <moregreen> after logging in
[05:36] <moregreen> anyone?
[05:36] <leo_rockw> moregreen: does alt+F2 work?
[05:36] <moregreen> what does that do
[05:37] <moregreen> im not on k now
[05:37] <leo_rockw> it's the "run command" menu
[05:37] <moregreen> ah
[05:37] <leo_rockw> if you can do that then you can run kicker
[05:37] <leo_rockw> kicker is the kde bar
[05:38] <moregreen> ah ok
[05:38] <moregreen> well, get this
[05:38] <moregreen> when i mouse over where the bar would be
[05:38] <moregreen> i get a hand
[05:38] <Arwen> http://pastebin.ca/933255 <-- any idea why my sources are lower priority and without a package name?
[05:39] <leo_rockw> moregreen: weird
[05:39] <moregreen> and another thing
[05:39] <moregreen> when using K programs, like amarok....the play button and all the buttons are blank
[05:39] <moregreen> like default buttons
[05:39] <moregreen> am i missing a default button thing?
[05:39] <moregreen> :-o
[05:40] <leo_rockw> i don't think so... that sounds so weird
[05:41] <Aresilek> My adept manager, add/remove programs and apt-get have ceased to function
[05:41] <Aresilek> I get: Reading package lists... Done| Bus error (core dumped)e... 50%
[05:42] <moregreen> damn
[05:42] <cicero123> hello room
[05:42] <moregreen> hey cicero
[05:43] <cicero123> been using kubuntu for almost a month now. :)
[05:43] <moregreen> did you by any chance hear of an invisible kubuntu
[05:43] <moregreen> when you log in all you see is the blue desktop
[05:43] <moregreen> :P
[05:43] <moregreen> thats what i got
[05:45] <cicero123> i am trying to put it on  dell laptop, and i really goofed badly. i am used to mouses and not touchpads and need some help. in the middle of the install i cancelled and instead of restarting i hit the pad wrong and it quit. how do i restart the process without damaging the vista part of the disk?
[05:46] <klobster> moregreen: do you have another user account you can log into kde with?
[05:48] <moregreen> yes i should try that
[05:50] <cicero123> does anyone know what i should do?
[05:53] <chowder> Does anyone know how to change the default resolution for OpenGL?
[05:53] <Livy_01> hello
[05:56] <anniku989> !dolphin
[05:56] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:58] <chowder> i was playing the game Urban Terror, I changed the screen resolution and the game crashed.  terminal output points to too high of a resolution.  It set the default OpenGL resolution too high.  i just need to find that file so i can edit the default resolution
[05:58] <chowder> can anyone help me?
[06:07] <nanothief> chowder: the file should be in your ~ folder, something like ~/.urban_terror, if the game works like most apps
[06:07] <nanothief> err nevermind
[06:12] <user5> happyday
[06:12] <nanothief> when replying to messages with kmail, the html seems to be stripped. Is there a way to disable this?
[06:14] <leo_rockw> nanothief: don't send html
[06:14] <nanothief> leo_rockw: I don't want to send html, I want to reply to html
[06:14] <sfears> how do i refresh the desktop icons?
[06:15] <leo_rockw> nanothief: there should be a link on top of the email that says "allow html" or smth like that
[06:15] <sfears> i moved some files on the desktop in kde 3.. logged out and into kde 4.. all the files i moved off the desktop are still showing but unavailable
[06:15] <sfears> is there some kind of desktop cache?
[06:16] <nanothief> leo_rockw: yeah I see the html when viewing the email, but if I click "reply", it all disappears, and I cannot find an option to stop that
[06:17] <leo_rockw> nanothief: i'm not sure then... i just yell at the people that send me html. and i have an ascii ribbon campaign signature (http://www.asciiribbon.org/)
[06:19] <nanothief> leo_rockw: I have too many non-nerd friends to be able to do that :P
[06:20] <leo_rockw> nanothief: that's why i put that signature
[06:27] <sfears> how do i add widgets to the kde4 taskbar? i don't have any right click options
[06:27] <leo_rockw> sfears: drag and drop
[06:27] <sfears> i also don't have a k menu anymore
[06:27] <sfears> drag & drop doesn't seem to work.. the icons just disappear behind it
[06:27] <leo_rockw> sfears: it took me a while to figure it out too....
[06:27] <leo_rockw> sfears: mmhh... now, that's not good
[06:28] <crxyem> ok, just did a dist-upgrade and lost my wireless connection, ipw2200, my router is wpa
[06:29] <leo_rockw> sfears: i'm on kde 3.5.9 now, so i can't give you any other solution
[06:29] <sfears> thanks anyway
[06:30] <cicero123> sigh. afk for an hour.
[06:41] <ForgeAus> hmmm AndLinux leaves behind the XFCE packages (which isn't very much but its not professional) even if you get the KDE version
[06:41] <ForgeAus> and its odd how X passes through to Win32 as its display manager, running kwin is strange inside it
[06:47] <sparr_> how can i make a particular repository the top priority for the packages that it provides?
[06:48]  * r11t is happy to discover that konqueror is a good smb file share client
[06:50] <leo_rockw> r11t: try fish:// now :-D
[06:50] <leo_rockw> i <3 konqueror and ssh
[06:50] <noaXess_kubuntu> !sound
[06:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:51] <r11t> leo_rockw: Thanks.. I will try it out
[06:51] <r11t> lol i just realized the joke now
[06:52] <leo_rockw> r11t: you have many of those
[06:52] <leo_rockw> r11t: fish:/ smb:/ are just some
[06:52] <r11t> ahh i see :)
[06:52] <leo_rockw> you can even create alias
[06:53] <leo_rockw> like i use g: for google
[06:53] <leo_rockw> or wp: for wikipedia
[06:53] <r11t> that sounds like a sweet feature
[06:54] <r11t> what is fish:/ for?
[06:54] <leo_rockw> r11t: preferences > configure konqueror > quick web access (or smth of the like, mine is in spanish)
[06:54] <leo_rockw> fish:/ is for ssh
[06:54] <r11t> whoa..I never knew ssh too is integrated
[06:55] <leo_rockw> r11t: you also have man:/
[06:55] <leo_rockw> r11t: and help:/
[06:56] <r11t> leo_rockw: yeah..
[06:56] <leo_rockw> r11t: and there are mouse gestures, in case you want them and didn't know they existed
[06:57] <r11t> leo_rockw: I have not tried using it with konqueror ...even though I have used it with opera
[06:57] <leo_rockw> oh, you were an opera user, huh? me too
[06:58] <r11t> leo_rockw: yeah i used to be one
[06:58] <leo_rockw> kcontrol > regional and accesiblity, introduce actions, general preferences, import new actions > /usr/share/apps/khotkeys/konqueror_gestures_kde321.khotkeys
[06:59] <leo_rockw> the words might not be exact, but that gives you a general idea if you want to enable them
[06:59] <r11t> leo_rockw: thank you very much , I will take a look at it
[06:59] <leo_rockw> r11t: yup, np
[07:01] <djdarkman> does ubuntu`s apache enable .htaccess by default?
[07:04] <leo_rockw> have a good night everyone, take care
[07:06] <alucardromero> I come to thy channel in need of help with compiz.
[07:06] <noaXess_kubuntu> my sound won't work on the integrated speakers.. only headphone jack.. its a card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog/Digital.. alsamixer seems to be ok.any idea?
[07:06] <noaXess_kubuntu> headphone works..
[07:06] <alucardromero> noaXess_kubuntu: I'll find you a tutorial.  What kind of laptop are you using?
[07:07] <isaac_> hi
[07:08] <alucardromero> compiz seems to only work properly when I use "sudo compiz --replace".
[07:08] <noaXess_kubuntu> alucardromero: asus r2e.. :) ultra mobile. see on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusR2E
[07:09] <alucardromero> noaXess_kubuntu: I know there's a line you have to edit to enable the sound driver.  I'm looking it up.
[07:09] <isaac_> so I'm trying to edit my "blacklist-restricted" module
[07:10] <noaXess_kubuntu> alucardromero: but why does headphone work?
[07:10] <isaac_> I'm attempting to follow the manual install guide at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[07:11] <ForgeAus> ahh replace! thats it! thats what I should use for fluxbox, if I can
[07:11] <noaXess_kubuntu> ForgeAus: ?
[07:11] <isaac_> I have an X1600XT and I'm attempting to install the 8.3 Linux cats, I'm running the AMD64 version of Kubuntu 7.10
[07:12] <isaac_> any ideas on how I can edit " /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-restricted "?
[07:12] <isaac_> kate refuses to do so
[07:13] <noaXess_kubuntu> isaac_: uss vim
[07:13] <noaXess_kubuntu> use
[07:13] <isaac_> vim....
[07:13] <isaac_> ok
[07:13] <isaac_> trying now
[07:17] <noaXess_kubuntu> alucardromero: any idea?
[07:17] <isaac_> hmm blacklist-restricted file seems to be empty.  Is that normal? (fresh install)
[07:18] <isaac_> and then how do I exit out of vim?
[07:18] <noaXess_kubuntu> isaac_: .just a mom
[07:18] <isaac_> ko
[07:18] <noaXess_kubuntu> :q
[07:18] <isaac_> thank you
[07:19] <noaXess_kubuntu> isaac_: i have no blacklist-restricted
[07:20] <isaac_> ok
[07:20] <isaac_> thanks
[07:20] <isaac_> I appreciate it
[07:20] <isaac_> a little help for this poor nub
[07:29] <enwe> noaXess_kubuntu : int speaker n headphone has same output line
[07:30] <enwe> noaXess_kubuntu : try unplug hedphone n check kmix
[07:30] <noaXess_kubuntu> enwe: it should but ext speaker won't work
[07:31] <noaXess_kubuntu> enwe: headphone are unpluged
[07:42] <pushax> hi all
[07:43] <pushax> can someone as a favor DCC me the San Serif font?
[07:47] <pushax> can someone as a favor DCC me the San Serif font?
[07:48] <noaXess_kubuntu> enwe: some screenshots http://files.wmx.ch/upload/png/70_snapshot1.png http://files.wmx.ch/upload/png/70_snapshot2.png http://files.wmx.ch/upload/png/70_snapshot3.png
[07:48] <noaXess_kubuntu> kmix
[07:54] <enwe> noaXess_kubuntu : try unactive headphone or iec958 --- yellow led
[07:59] <CorporateMusk> I've installed thunderbird, and I want to be able to launch it from the terminal by just typing 'thunderbird' rather than the whole path, how do I do that?
[08:03] <ailean> hey - can anyone tell me how to get my creative vision W to work on amarok?  I have it working through gnomad2, but it's not the easiest to use program.
[08:06] <storbeck> CorporateMusk, How did you install it?
[08:07] <pushax> ailean what is a creative vision? is that a hdtv card or sound card?
[08:07] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: I downloaded the tar.gz from the website, and un packed it.  I should've used aptitude or apt-get, but I wasn't thinking at the time
[08:08] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: thunderbird is working fine, I just have to type the full path to launch it, and I'm lazy
[08:08] <storbeck> Did you make install?
[08:08] <storbeck> ie. sudo make install
[08:08] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: no, just unpacked it and ran it
[08:09] <storbeck> Ah, is it just one file?
[08:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> enwe: just tried that before.. no change :(
[08:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> come back later
[08:09] <storbeck> CorporateMusk, You can put it in /usr/bin but make sure it still can find the other files/folders
[08:09] <ailean> pushax, mp4 player
[08:09] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: It's a directory full of stuff, if I invoke the file 'thunderbird' in that directory thunderbird starts
[08:10] <pushax> ailean: are the zen player
[08:10] <storbeck> You could make a link to /usr/bin
[08:10] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: can I just create a sym link in /usr/bin
[08:10] <prince_jammys> move it to /usr/local
[08:10] <storbeck> Yes
[08:10] <prince_jammys> better to separate manually installed stuff from the rest
[08:10] <pushax> ailean I hear you need to seek out the lib to make it read first.  have you got it reading th ememory and up and downign songs?
[08:10] <CorporateMusk> prince_jammys: It's in /usr/local/thunderbird/
[08:11] <pushax> ailean: and vids
[08:11] <prince_jammys> oh, then you can add /usr/local to your path
[08:11] <ailean> pushax, ah i got it!
[08:11] <ailean> thanks :)
[08:11] <prince_jammys> so you can just type "thunderbird"
[08:11] <CorporateMusk> prince_jammys: how do I add it to my path?
[08:11] <prince_jammys> lemme see
[08:13] <pushax> has anyone worked out how to get java working on firefox 3?
[08:13] <storbeck> I still vote to just make a sym link to /usr/bin
[08:14] <prince_jammys> sym link is fine, but you'll have to do it over every time you install something like this
[08:15] <CorporateMusk> storbeck: I will add the sym link for now, but I am curious how to add things to my path
[08:15] <prince_jammys> it's easy as hell, i just can't remember
[08:16] <prince_jammys> i thought /usr/local was in your path by default
[08:16] <nanothief> CorporateMusk: in your ~/.bashrc file, put something like export PATH="$PATH:/my/new/path/"
[08:16] <nanothief> and /usr/local shouldn't be in your path, I don't think
[08:17] <prince_jammys> i guess i added it a long time ago
[08:17] <CorporateMusk> nanothief: why not?
[08:17] <pushax> has anyone worked out how to get java working on firefox 3?
[08:17] <nanothief> CorporateMusk: well there shouldn't be any executable files in there (they would be in /usr/local/bin)
[08:18] <nanothief> so there isn't need
[08:18] <prince_jammys> ::: /home/tantalus/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:18] <nanothief> *isn't any need
[08:18] <prince_jammys> yeah /usr/local/bin
[08:18] <prince_jammys> is there a bin subdir in your thunderbird?
[08:19] <prince_jammys> better yet, why not apt-get install? you can save your settings, and then get updates, etc
[08:20] <CorporateMusk> prince_jammys: I could apt-get install, but I don't want to download the whole thing again, I'm on a limited GPRS connection
[08:20] <prince_jammys> ah
[08:20] <CorporateMusk> nanothief: so I should move my thunderbird executable to /usr/local/bin
[08:20] <CorporateMusk> nanothief: should I move the whole thunderbird dir, or just the executable?
[08:21] <prince_jammys> ahem symlink is looking good now
[08:21] <nanothief> CorporateMusk: that should have been done for you, I don't know what went wrong
[08:21] <nanothief> did you do sudo make install?
[08:21] <CorporateMusk> nanothief: no, I downloaded it, unpacked it, and ran it
[08:21] <CorporateMusk> I know, not the right way
[08:21] <nanothief> oh right
[08:22] <nanothief> well I'm not sure if it will work if you move the executable
[08:22] <nanothief> you could do what prince_jammys suggested (ln -s ...)
[08:22] <prince_jammys> right, it may expect files to be in the same dir
[08:22] <CorporateMusk> is there any reason I shouldn't sym link?
[08:23] <prince_jammys> nah that was storbeck, i introduced the path confusion
[08:23] <prince_jammys> no
[08:23] <prince_jammys> symlink it up
[08:23] <prince_jammys> and sorry
[08:23] <CorporateMusk> then storbeck has the short and sweet
[08:23] <CorporateMusk> maybe I'm looking for the difficult, hence why I didn't use aptitude
[08:24] <prince_jammys> i personally can't stand it when some dweeb introduces a new faulty "solution", just like i did :P
[08:24] <nanothief> prince_jammys: well it would have worked anyway :D
[08:24] <prince_jammys> maybe not
[08:25] <CorporateMusk> I was originally looking for how to add things to the path, but now I think that might not be a good idea
[08:25] <prince_jammys> depends on where it expects to find the files
[08:25] <CorporateMusk> putting things in the right place sounds better
[08:25] <nanothief> nah you should try to keep you path as small as possible
[08:25] <prince_jammys> i misread and thought you were COPYING to /usr/bin
[08:25] <prince_jammys> not linking
[08:25] <nanothief> hmm
[08:26] <nanothief> I don't think it would make a difference though, copying as compared to symlink
[08:26] <prince_jammys> could make a mess if he ever installs through apt
[08:26] <nanothief> ya
[08:27] <nanothief> I find that I avoid installing anything without using apt, as it makes everything so much easier
[08:28] <nanothief> anyway... does anyone know a way to get kmail to store mail messages from imap servers for offline usage?
[08:28] <prince_jammys> i store them locally
[08:28] <prince_jammys> but i didn't configure anything that i recall
[08:28] <prince_jammys> you mean grab ALL messages?
[08:29] <storbeck> nanothief, If he copied it, he would have to copy all the folder contents, which isn't a good practice
[08:29] <storbeck> Which is why I suggested to symlink it
[08:29] <nanothief> no, I don't want to move files to local inbox, so that on my gmail account, the mail is sorted as well
[08:30] <nanothief> storbeck: oh I didn't realize he had to copy te folder contents
[08:31] <prince_jammys> it was indeed the simplest solution
[08:31] <nanothief> well the simplest solution was sudo apt-get install thunderbird :P
[08:31] <storbeck> Didn't your teachers every introduce the KISS method? :P
[08:32] <prince_jammys> heh
[08:32] <prince_jammys> i thought it was KISS until the problem started unravelling
[08:32] <storbeck> w00t! Full Metal Alchemist is on
[08:32] <prince_jammys> symlink is best
[08:33] <storbeck> I finally figured out why my keys were sticking :D
[08:34] <storbeck> There was a small pebble inside my keyboard
[08:35] <cicero123> reHello room.
[08:35] <cicero123> i need help with a laptop that got interupted installing kubuntu
[08:35] <storbeck> Hi, cicero123
[08:35] <cicero123> hey storbeck
[08:36] <nanothief> cicero123: so you just can't restart the installation?
[08:36] <cicero123> no, it is frozen
[08:36] <CorporateMusk> gotta love flaky gprs connections
[08:36] <storbeck> ?
[08:36] <cicero123> i am afraid to restart it. it was partitioning the disk (1/2 vista, 1/2 kubuntu
[08:37] <storbeck> eek
[08:37] <nanothief> cicero123: did you have anything important on the disk before you started?
[08:37] <cicero123> the intstaller is frozen but the kubuntu that is running from the disk is working
[08:37] <cicero123> yes.
[08:37] <CorporateMusk> thanks storbeck, prince_jammys, and nanothief
[08:37] <storbeck> You're welcome, CorporateMusk
[08:37] <nanothief> CorporateMusk: np
[08:37] <prince_jammys> my pleasure
[08:37] <prince_jammys> :)
[08:38] <nanothief> cicero123: what do you mean by interupted?
[08:38] <storbeck> cicero123, You may have to reinstall everything. =/
[08:38] <cicero123> i was frustrated and hit the cancel key (i am not used to laptop cursor pads) and started tapping on the dumb thing, and cancelled the install
[08:39] <prince_jammys> ouchy
[08:39] <cicero123> i didnt mean to hit it, i was trying to move the mouse over.
[08:39] <storbeck> You canceled it in the middle of partitioning?
[08:39] <cicero123> the cursor over
[08:39] <cicero123> now i cant get it to go back to partitioning
[08:39] <cicero123> and i am afraid to touch anything else
[08:40] <storbeck> cicero123, Try closing the installer and start it back up
[08:40] <prince_jammys> you're currently on the live cd right now?
[08:40] <prince_jammys> redundancy ahem
[08:42] <cicero123> k. started the install and the cursor that is the dots chasing themselves in a ciricle is going
[08:42] <jani> hi
[08:43] <storbeck> LOL @ curser that is the dots chasing themselves
[08:43] <VilleVicious> I installed Kubuntu today and the only problem I've had is with my monitor: it has optimal resolution of (1680x1050) and I can select it from system settings> Monitor & display but it leaves black bars on the sides of my screen
[08:43] <cicero123> the installer wont turn off, though. it just blanks out white in the background though.
[08:43] <wyfdhu> how to use gcc?
[08:44] <jani> i am about to buy a new computer, but do not understand any of those cryptic mobileprocessor cpu names... what is a good mobileprocessor nowadays? is amd tk or tl serie beter? is intel core duo better than amd series?
[08:44] <storbeck> wyfdhu, gcc source.c -o program.exe
[08:44] <wyfdhu> can it debug c++?
[08:45] <nanothief> VilleVicious: I would recommend downloading the nvidia or ati drivers (the same as your graphics card), and seeing if they fix it
[08:45] <nanothief> wyfdhu: no you use gdb for that
[08:45] <storbeck> wyfdhu, Read the man pages.
[08:45] <storbeck> There's a whole section on debugging options
[08:46] <wyfdhu> oh~ got it~~thank u
[08:47] <nanothief> jani: for the most part, higher cost --> better chip
[08:48] <mornfall> Ei.
[08:48] <mornfall> Hm. Wrong channel.
[08:48] <cicero123> it is hard to describe. there is the window labelld "install" that is all white and larger in the background, and there is a small blue window labelled "installing system" that is blank in the inside also. when the cursor is on the little blue window it is an arrow. when the cursor is on the white window it is "busy (rotating dots in a circle). nothing else is happenning
[08:49] <cicero123> i really goofed, didnt i?
[08:50] <storbeck> Just try restarting into the livecd
[08:51] <cicero123> like reinsert the cd?
[08:51] <storbeck> You took the livecd out?
[08:52] <cicero123> no, it wont eject
[08:52] <storbeck> Well, just leave it in and restart
[08:52] <cicero123> like reboot
[08:52] <cicero123> k.
[08:55] <cicero123> it showed a text screen that read, KDM not running. it gave an angry beep, and now the black kubuntu splash screen is on with instructions to remove the disk
[08:56] <cicero123> and press enter to continue. shall i leave the disk in or out?
[08:57] <storbeck> o.O; Did it boot from CD or the HD?
[08:58] <cicero123> it booted from the cd, but i shut it off. and that is when i got the kdm message and the instruction to restart the computer without the disk.
[08:58] <cicero123> during the shutdown phase
[08:59] <cicero123> the computer is now off and the cd tray is open
[09:00] <cicero123> should i restart with the livecd?
[09:00] <storbeck> Wait, let me see if I'm following. You rebooted - after it started back up, you got that error message - it popped out the CD - and you turned it off again?
[09:00] <storbeck> Or did it give you that message while it was shutting off the first time?
[09:01] <ubuntu__898> 986
[09:02] <cicero123> i defragged the hd on the laptop that had vista on a dell laptop. i ran kubuntu from the livecd and started partitioning. i tried to move the cursor as it was partitioning the disk and instead it asked if i wanted to cancel. i tried to move the cursor away but instead in my frustration hit the pad with my finger and it i shut down the process. the installer gui than froze in the background but the rest of the live cd still worked.
[09:03] <storbeck> Yes, I've got all that but I'm talking about if you got the error message after you rebooted and it started back up, or while it was rebooting in the shut down process
[09:04] <cicero123> i then tried to restart the installer from the live cd and got only a "busy" cursor and a smaller box that was also blank labelled "installing system". when i turned off the computer as kubuntu was giong thru the shutdown process a text screen appeared as the background and one of the lines read, "KDM not working" and it beeped. the black spash screen with the blue kubuntu logo and the process bar that runs backwards showed up with
[09:04] <cicero123> instruction to remove the cd and press enter.
[09:05] <cicero123> sorry. i got it during the shutdown process.
[09:05] <cicero123> i havent restarted the computer yet.
[09:05] <storbeck> Ah okay, yes just restarted with the CD in. (Start the whole process over from scratch)
[09:06] <cicero123> k.
[09:06] <storbeck> Hopefully the partitions weren't messed up too bad and it will be recoverable
[09:06] <noiseidea> hello, does anyone know a way to make Kubuntu's Konsole to copy text to clipboard once you highlight it? Like Putty etc.
[09:06] <storbeck> noiseidea, It does
[09:06] <storbeck> Use the 3rd mouse button.
[09:07] <cicero123> k. i got the live cd decision screen with all the options
[09:07] <storbeck> Just choose install
[09:07] <cicero123> storbeck: k
[09:09] <noiseidea> storbeck: that's the trick, I don't want to push any buttons, I want Konsole to copy it automatically.
[09:09] <noiseidea> like Putty
[09:09] <storbeck> noiseidea, It does. I mean use the 3rd mouse button to paste it.
[09:09] <noiseidea> aah
[09:09] <cicero123> storbeck: it is loading. got some sort of microcode error like 750000 and then it wen blank
[09:10] <storbeck> cicero123, Eek
[09:10] <cicero123> now i got lighter blue loading screen
[09:11] <cicero123> storbeck:  now the kde livecd desktop is loaded.
[09:11] <storbeck> w00t!
[09:11] <VilleVicious> I went and installed installed new drivers using system settings>restricted drivers, now the black bars are gone but the best reoslution available is 1280x1024
[09:11] <cicero123> i am plugging a spare mouse into the back port so i dont make any more stupid mistakes with the laptop mousepad
[09:11] <Dorwin6> hi guys : can anyone tell me how to install codec to play avi with kaffeine
[09:12] <storbeck> Hehe, good idea cicero123
[09:12] <noiseidea> storbeck: but if I want to paste it to let's say Google, the 3rd button doesn't work there
[09:12] <Dorwin6> i cant seem to play avi files
[09:12] <storbeck> Dorwin6, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:15] <Dorwin6> thanks storbeck
[09:15] <storbeck> np
[09:15] <VilleVicious> any ideas how to get good resolution without the black bars on the side
[09:15] <cicero123> storbeck: doh. i need a usb mouse. oh well. the live cd part is working, and it is on as ubunut_
[09:15] <cicero123> *ubuntu_
[09:16] <storbeck> cicero123, Awesome :D Try and see if it can still repartition and keep your vista intact
[09:16] <Dorwin6> cicero123 : of course live cd will always allowed u to work, are you planning to install it ? :)
[09:16] <cicero123> storbeck: yes
[09:16] <cicero123> storbeck: re-run the install>?
[09:16] <storbeck> Yes
[09:16] <cicero123> k
[09:19] <cicero123> storbeck:  i went to the manual partition part and have 5 partitions listed, sda 1-5. one is fat 16, one is ntfs, one is ext3 one is swap and the last is fat 32
[09:19] <pushax> has anyone got java working in firefox3 ?   I've looked and tried many said solutions but none work.
[09:22] <storbeck> cicero123, You shouldn't have to manually partition it
[09:22] <pushax> This is ridiculous a said professional OS and Java wont work in browsers.  Now I'm in Alpha 5 Hardy but still, this should not be an issue.  The problem is it seems no one is addressing the interface of java to Firefox3.
[09:23] <cicero123> storbeck: right, but if i let it run automatically it will further partition the hard disk.
[09:24] <cicero123> storbeck: or is that an incorrect assumption?
[09:24] <storbeck> Ah, so it installed linux partitions?
[09:24] <Dorwin6> storbeck : i installed the updates, however, still have not be able to see the movie
[09:24] <cicero123> storbeck: it looks like the partitions installed. but i dont think the os did.
[09:25] <storbeck> Yes, if it was still in the partitioning section, it wouldn't have installed anything
[09:25] <storbeck> Just delete all the linux partitions and then partition it manually :)
[09:26] <cicero123> storbeck: delete ext3 and swap?
[09:27] <warren_> hi
[09:27] <storbeck> Yes
[09:27] <warren_> can someone give me a kde program to convert an avi to dvd easily?
[09:27] <storbeck> warren_, Convert avi to dvd?
[09:28] <warren_> yes
[09:28] <warren_> my dvd can't read avi and divx
[09:28] <Dorwin6> warren_ : are u able to play avi ?
[09:28] <cicero123> storbeck:  k it they are now listed as one file "freespace"
[09:29] <Dorwin6> I have this issue aswell, cant play avi
[09:29] <cicero123> storbeck: shall i go back and let it partion automatically now?
[09:29] <storbeck> cicero123, Do you know how to partition for linux?
[09:29] <warren_> no
[09:29] <warren_> i mean on my home dvd player (on tv)
[09:29] <storbeck> warren_, DeVeDe
[09:30] <cicero123> no, the last time i was into computers fat32 was the latest thing
[09:30] <warren_> but i would like to use a kde program
[09:30] <storbeck> How many GBs do you have to work with?
[09:30] <swatto> morning all
[09:31] <cicero123> it is an 80 gig hd but vista is hogging 56 g
[09:31] <Dorwin6> warren_ : try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <storbeck> Ok, you could do this then. This is what I use
[09:32] <storbeck> Root / (10GB)               Home /home (10GB)         Swap swap (1GB)
[09:32] <cicero123> the partitioner wants 1 gig for a swap file and 23 gigs for ext3
[09:32] <storbeck> But you can do it however you like
[09:32] <cicero123> k.
[09:33] <ubuntu__> Quick question: How do I deleted a linux-swap partition? It will not give me the option to do so.
[09:33] <cicero123> i think i will follow the partitioners recommend for 23 gigs
[09:33] <ubuntu__> Doing this from the the live disk fyi.
[09:33] <storbeck> It wants 23 because that's how much you have left on your HDD. :] You're welcome to use it
[09:34] <Harley_V> So...
[09:34] <cicero123> storbeck: the family that uses the laptop will eventually be migrating to kubuntu full time so i want up to half. there will be three user accounts.
[09:34] <noaXess> hi all..
[09:34] <Harley_V> Hi
[09:34] <storbeck> You should have plenty of room :)
[09:35] <Harley_V> Anyone mind helping me with my issue?
[09:35] <noaXess> i get QSettings: failed to open file '/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc' if i run any qt app.. any idea? the file exists..
[09:35] <storbeck> ubuntu_, Is the drive mounted?
[09:35] <Harley_V> Yes, but I can't unmount it currently
[09:35] <Harley_V> in QTparted it won't let me "unmount"
[09:36] <^V^> noaXess: do you have read access to that file?
[09:36] <^V^> can you view it ina text editor?
[09:36] <noaXess> hm..
[09:36] <storbeck> Harley_V, Are you in the LiveCD?
[09:36] <Harley_V> Yes
[09:37] <noaXess> can't read it.. ok.. then i need to have read right to it.. correct?
[09:37] <Harley_V> I've tried going into sudo and still nothing useful happens.
[09:37] <storbeck> The LiveCD uses the Swap. Download gparted from the website (it's an iso) burn it to a cd
[09:37] <storbeck> Then delete the swap
[09:37] <^V^> noaXess: hmmm
[09:37] <^V^> noaXess: what apps are you trying to run?
[09:37] <Harley_V> I can't make fdisk work?
[09:38] <storbeck> The LiveCD uses the swap so you won't be able to delete it.
[09:38] <noaXess> ^V^: why do you have a nicknam like this.. :)..
[09:38] <^V^> noaXess: Why not?
[09:38] <Harley_V> but I CREATED the swap disk a minute ago
[09:38] <noaXess> ^V^: i run eg gconf-editor
[09:39] <Harley_V> How about I run through my full issue.
[09:39] <noaXess> now i set chmod +r to the file.. before it was rw-rw---- 1 root root and now it is rw-rw-r-- 1 root root.. all other files in /etc/qt3 has rw-rw-r-- 1 root root
[09:39] <Harley_V> I created a swap partition of 2gigs and an ex3 partition of 38gigs and installed kubuntu to it respectfully.
[09:40] <Harley_V> Unfortunately, Kubuntu will not boot, only the Windows MBR is working
[09:40] <Harley_V> and, even more unfortunately, the windows will no longer boot either-it's missing a file now
[09:40] <Harley_V> So I'm stuck on this live disk until I figure out how to solve my problems.
[09:41] <noaXess> Harley_V: a tipp. install only kubuntu to the whole hd.. then install virtualbox.org and install a virutal windows.. i do that and it works.. also with external hd's, usb, and and and
[09:41] <storbeck> Harley_V, Did you make a /boot ?
[09:41] <Harley_V> Not an option, noaxxess
[09:41] <Harley_V> and no, stor
[09:41] <Harley_V> I mounted it to /
[09:41] <storbeck> o.O Why?
[09:42] <Harley_V> because I didn't have space for a boot partition
[09:42] <Harley_V> I had too many partitions to introduce a boot
[09:42] <Harley_V> already on that HDD*
[09:43] <Harley_V> So, basically, I'm just trying to get rid of this swap for now and then start new
[09:43] <storbeck> Just resize it, no need to delete it
[09:43] <Harley_V> I can't do ANYTHING with the swap
[09:43] <Harley_V> Everything is greyed out
[09:44] <Harley_V> Minus the "property" window
[09:45] <^V^> noaXess: did chmod'ing the file help?
[09:45] <storbeck> Harley_V, Try using gparted
[09:45] <noaXess> ^V^: jep .. it was only the png file for the compiz cube plugin..
[09:46] <Harley_V> Good news: swap drive deleted using the instlaler
[09:46] <Harley_V> :P
[09:46] <storbeck> What was the problem?
[09:46] <Harley_V> Now...to fix my windows AS WELL AS somehow install Kubuntu
[09:46] <Harley_V> It wouldn't let me delete the swap drive in QTparted
[09:46] <cicero123> storbeck:  sorry. i am pretty slow. i get the error mp rppt fo;e suste, os defined. please correct this from the partitioning menu
[09:46] <Harley_V> so I used the installer to delete it
[09:47] <cicero123> storbeck: * no root file system is defined. Please correct theis from the partitioning menu
[09:47] <storbeck> cicero123, Did you make a /  partition ?
[09:48] <cicero123> storbeck:  ic. i just did
[09:50] <cicero123> i have a warning: file system doesnt have expected sizes for windows to like it. cluster size is 2k (1k is expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959) expected);; the size of FATs is 94 sectors (1.88 is expected).
[09:51] <cicero123> storbeck:  maybe i had better undo the changes and go back to automatic
[09:51] <storbeck> As long as you deleted the old partitions, you'll be just fine with automatic :]
[09:52] <cicero123> k.
[09:55] <storbeck> I'm glad that your windows partitions are still there :] everything seems to have worked out
[09:59] <cicero123> storbeck:  50% resizing partition mark.
[09:59] <storbeck> woot!
[09:59] <cicero123> i cant believe that vista needs 56 gigs in order to operate
[10:00] <cicero123> storbeck: done. now it wants to know who i am ***paranoia***
[10:00] <cicero123> :) thanx
[10:00] <storbeck> Haha yeah, it sure is big.
[10:00] <storbeck> I'm only using 1 gig of my HDD :]
[10:03] <cicero123> storbeck:  i did have a question about user accounts. i am the only one that uses this computer so i am my user account. with this laptop that three people share (a mom and 2 kids), should i have the first login name as the mom or should i set up four acounts with one being an admin thing for the mom to use when she needs to tweak the system.
[10:04] <Harley_V> What spot should I put grub in?
[10:04] <cpk1_> cicero123: you dont need an "admin" account, the user specified during install gets put in sudoers which effectively makes it an admin
[10:05] <cpk1_> only when using sudo though
[10:05] <storbeck> If the mom is going to be the main user/admin I'd set hers up during the install
[10:06] <cicero123> storbeck:  keen. thanx
[10:06] <storbeck> (cpk1 is 100% right ;])
[10:06] <Harley_V> ERm
[10:06] <Harley_V> I need some assistance on Grub
[10:07] <Harley_V> Last time I shoved GRUB into (hd0) it didn't load, but then again I didn't have a boot partition
[10:07] <cpk1> cicero123: later on if you want someone else to also have power just put that user in the sudoer group and then they can do anything root can when they use sudo
[10:08] <cicero123> k.
[10:09] <cpk1> first linux install cicero123?
[10:10] <cicero123> cpk1: first for a laptop with a vista partition. i have used linux for about a month on my desktop with another disk running win2k
[10:11] <cicero123> the laptop is for a friend who liked the concept of ubuntu/edubuntu. i told her i would put it on her laptop, and i am on needles and pins not wanting to make a mistake.
[10:12] <cpk1> well thankfully ubuntu seems to be easy than windows in my opinion
[10:12] <cpk1> should go smoothly as long as windows was installed first
[10:12] <cicero123> cpk1: i think she will really like it. i am using the kubuntu disk, and dl the edubuntu packages she wants to use
[10:13] <cicero123> i accidentlally stopped the install during partitioning. :(
[10:14] <cicero123> storbeck has been very kind in helping me
[10:14] <storbeck> cicero123, What wireless card is it?
[10:15] <storbeck> You might need to manually install the drivers.
[10:17] <cicero123> storbeck: i am not sure which wireless card. i can look it up in a bit. i got a ready to install screen but insteadof installing in partions #3 (ext3) and #4 (swap) it wants to make partition #7 ext3 and #8 as swap. is that to be expected?
[10:17] <storbeck> eek. I don't think you deleted the old partitions
[10:18] <cpk1> if you have 6 other partitions i suppose it is
[10:18] <storbeck> You should be alright though
[10:18] <cpk1> cicero123: did you write the changes to disk when you deleted the partitions
[10:18] <cicero123> cpk1: :( i guess not.
[10:19] <cicero123> cpk1: i thought so.
[10:19] <cicero123> storbeck: can i erase the duplicated partions later?
[10:20] <cicero123> storbeck: and add them to the ext3 space?
[10:20] <storbeck> Yes
[10:21] <cpk1> might as well just do it now
[10:21] <cicero123> storbeck: participate in the package usage survey? that helps them figure out what hardware and software is bein used?
[10:21] <cpk1> if you havent even formatted to ext3
[10:22] <storbeck> cicero123, It's up to you
[10:22] <cicero123> if it helps. yes
[10:22] <cicero123> cpk1: how do i delete the duplicate particitons?
[10:22] <cicero123> storbeck: she likes to participate in stuff like that
[10:23] <cicero123> *partitions
[10:23] <cpk1> I use fdisk, which is a command line tool
[10:23] <cpk1> it would be "fdisk /dev/hda" if hda was where the hard drive is
[10:24] <cpk1> and then "p" would print out your partition table
[10:24] <cicero123> cpk1: i dont want to loose vista
[10:24] <cpk1> d deletes
[10:24] <cpk1> so dont delete any partition that is non ext3
[10:25] <etfb> Having a problem with Firefox: the button on the Downloads window, that's supposed to open the folder that all downloads are put into, doesn't do anything.  Any ideas?
[10:26] <cpk1> once you have told it to delete the partitions  you tell it to write this to the partition table with "w"
[10:26] <storbeck> etfb, You might get better luck in #firefox
[10:26] <etfb> storbeck: Cool; thanks.  Byeeeee!
[10:27] <storbeck> cicero123, You can also use gparted
[10:27] <storbeck> It's a bit more noob friendly. :P
[10:27] <cpk1> I forgot the gui partitioners =P and I always have had problems using them with sata
[10:29] <storbeck> (You're going to need to apt-get gparted)
[10:30] <cpk1> or qtparted since this is the kubuntu channel =)
[10:30] <storbeck> Hehe, I suppose so
[10:31] <etfb> storbeck: Looks like #firefox is dead.  Anyone here using Firefox with the "Save files to..." option set?  Can you do an experiment for me?
[10:31] <mauricio> hi list
[10:32] <mauricio> today i install ubuntu
[10:32] <storbeck> What is the experiment? :P
[10:32] <cpk1> the button doesnt do anything for me either
[10:33] <cpk1> doesnt seem like too big of a deal anyways
[10:34] <etfb> storbeck: Open the downloads window and click the button at the bottom.  If it does nothing, you have the same bug I have.
[10:34] <mauricio> someone could say me how can i set Adep to install the new modules in my /opt partition?
[10:34] <cicero123> storbeck: i wrote gparted down to get. :) thanx
[10:34] <cpk1> etfb: seems like it would be more of a firefox problem not a kubuntu problem
[10:35] <cicero123> i see what it did. partition #7 and #8 have replaced partitions #3 and #4 so they arent duplicated
[10:35] <storbeck> Nope, doesn't do anything.
[10:35] <storbeck> You might want to write a report to firefox :P
[10:35] <etfb> cpk1: I think it's actually a KDE-specific issue related to Firefox assuming the existence of Nautilus under Linux.  Because KDE uses Konq instead, it's silently failing.  That's my guess
[10:36] <storbeck> etfb, I'm on Fluxbox
[10:36] <etfb> I was just hoping other KDE users might have debugged it and found an explanation.
[10:36] <etfb> storbeck: Does fluxbox use KDE?
[10:36] <storbeck> No
[10:36] <cicero123> afk
[10:36] <etfb> storbeck: What's the standard file manager?
[10:36] <cpk1> if I browse my directories I either use konq or terminal
[10:36] <storbeck> there is no "standard" file manager, but I use Rox
[10:37] <storbeck> (although I rarely use it)
[10:37] <etfb> storbeck: Could still be the same issue then.  They test Firefox in Gnome, and it works, so they think it's fine.
[10:37] <etfb> Maybe I should try installing Nautilus (or whatever the Gnome one is) and see if it magically works...
[10:37] <storbeck> Well yes it's the same issue, but I don't think it's a KDE problem. It's a firefox problem
[10:38] <storbeck> In all my years of using Firefox, I've never used that feature anyway so I'm not too worried
[10:39] <etfb> I just tried it on my wife's computer (she uses Ubuntu, I use Kubuntu and our daughter uses Xubuntu) and it works for her.
[10:39] <pauloeloy> :D
[10:39] <pauloeloy> /say $whois $me
[10:39] <etfb> So yes, it's a FF problem.  But the good thing about FF is that you can usually override the defaults, which is why I'm asking among the KDE users first.  Next trick is to check the FF bugzilla...
[10:40] <theunixgeek> How do I make an extended partition in GParted?
[10:40] <pauloeloy> Linux orion 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:41] <storbeck> What's with all the partitioning questions today? >_>
[10:41] <jpatrick> pauloeloy: ?
[10:41] <theunixgeek> storbeck: I need an extended partition :)
[10:41] <emilsedgh> (Firefox is Fx, not FF)
[10:41] <theunixgeek> ^ that's what's with the questions today ;)
[10:42] <etfb> emilsedgh: Cite?
[10:43] <maxime> hi
[10:43] <VilleVicious> When I run Adept manager, it informs me that another process is using the packaging system database even when I'm not running any other programs. How do I get the database free?
[10:43] <cpk1> !aptfix
[10:43] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:43] <cpk1> VilleVicious: that command
[10:44] <Harley_> Hey
[10:44] <storbeck> theunixgeek, partition -> new
[10:44] <Harley_> New slightly large problem..
[10:45] <theunixgeek> storbeck: "it is not possible to  create more than 4 primary partitions"
[10:45] <Harley_> Whenever I try and mount ANY Partition I get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[10:45] <sbucat> Hello World LOL
[10:45] <theunixgeek> storbeck: I need to create another extended one.
[10:45] <jpatrick> Kubuntu Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 15 minutes.
[10:45] <emilsedgh> etfb: Wikipedia ?
[10:45] <theunixgeek> jpatrick: yay I'm finally gonna be able to attend a meeting! :D what's it about?
[10:46] <jpatrick> theunixgeek: join and see
[10:46] <theunixgeek> ok
[10:46] <Harley_> @ anyone: I could really use some assistance.
[10:46] <theunixgeek> !question
[10:46] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:46] <cicero123> storbeck: the install app is scanning the mirror for an awfully long time...
 Whenever I try and mount ANY Partition I get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99
[10:47] <storbeck> cicero123, Is it connected to the internet?
[10:47] <Harley_> So nobody knows the answer?
[10:47] <cicero123> i have a dsl router and i plugged it in with a cable
[10:48] <Harley_> I literally cannot boot into my computer anymore.
[10:48] <Harley_> All I can boot into is this Live CD.
[10:48] <storbeck> Hrm, try going into your router configs and set up that computer to be in the DMZ
[10:48] <cicero123> i would get that harley because i wasnt in the user settings with admin permissions changing it there
[10:48] <cpk1> a normal router configuration should allow it
[10:49] <Harley_> Unfortunately I am on a Live CD though
[10:49] <Harley_> I cannot gain admin access..
[10:49] <storbeck> O.o
[10:49] <cicero123> storbeck: update-grub failed. this is a fatal error. :(
[10:49] <storbeck> O.o
[10:50] <cicero123> all it will let me do is press [okay]  :(
[10:50] <storbeck> I've never heard of someone having so much trouble with installing kubuntu as you have XD
[10:50] <cpk1> Harley_: you can chroot into it
[10:50] <storbeck> (Although it's understandable considering the circumstances)
[10:51] <Harley_> cpk1: How would I go about doing that?
[10:51] <cicero123> its my fault, i got frustrated and started tapping the mousepad that stopped it in the middle of partitioning the disk
[10:51] <Harley_> Whenever I try and boot into windows I get a missing hal.dll file in my system32 folder.
[10:51] <Harley_> and now I get the  error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99
[10:52] <Harley_> *when attempting to mount the partition so that I can check my system32 folder.
[10:52] <storbeck> Harley_, Boot into a LiveCD, mount the windows drive, download the hal.dll from somewhere online and put it in your system32 folder
[10:52] <Harley_> Stor
[10:52] <Harley_> that's what i'm saying-it won't work
[10:52] <Harley_> I'm in LiveCD since this is the ONLY thing I can get into.
[10:52] <cpk1> Harley_: can you mount the drive from the live cd?
[10:52] <Harley_> I CANNOT access my windows partition since it will not let me
[10:52] <Harley_> No, Cpk1
[10:52] <Harley_> it gives me that error that I've posted
[10:53] <Harley_> error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99
[10:53] <storbeck> What command are you giving?
[10:53] <Harley_> right click, mount
[10:53] <storbeck> sudo mount it
[10:54] <cicero123> i am about ready to cry. :( i got a minimal bash grub line. whatever that means.
[10:54] <Harley_> storbeck: Having no success in sudo mounting
[10:55] <VilleVicious> When I use the aptfix command, Konsole gives me command not found text
[10:55] <nanothief> VilleVicious: I'm guessing use apt fix instead
[10:55] <cpk1> !aptfix | VilleVicious
[10:55] <ubotu> VilleVicious: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:56] <nanothief> oh
[10:56] <storbeck> VilleVicious, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:56] <storbeck> (without the >>) ;)
[10:57] <cpk1> Harley_: is that partition in your fstab?
[10:57] <Harley_> I don't actually know what that is.
[10:58] <cpk1> Harley_: try this, open dolphin and then right click the partition and then go to properties then mounting and uncheck mount as user
[10:58] <cicero123> what do i do with a grub prompt? :(
[10:58] <cpk1> cicero123: during boot up?
[10:58] <cicero123> yeah. when i was installin i got a grub fatal error
[10:59] <cicero123> when i went to boot, all i get is a command prompt with grub:_
[10:59] <cpk1> and then you rebooted?
[10:59]  * cpk1 headesks
[11:00] <storbeck> He didn't reboot. He was installing and grub failed during the install so it brought him to a grub prompt
[11:00] <cicero123> it went to the kubuntu splash screen, popped open the disk, and told me press enter. and now i have a grub prompt
[11:01] <cicero123> with minimal bash like line edition support.
[11:01] <cicero123> *line editing
[11:01] <storbeck> cicero123, Are you sure you're not installing Gentoo? *chuckles*
[11:01] <cpk1> you are going to have to boot from the live cd most likely
[11:01] <cicero123> go back to the live cd?
[11:02] <cpk1> did it have a more specific grub error?
[11:02] <storbeck> cicero123, Why don't you do this. Boot into the livecd, install qtparted or gparted, delete all the linux partitions. then reboot and start from scratch
[11:03] <cicero123> update-grub failed. this is a fatal error. was all it said
[11:03] <cicero123> k
[11:04] <cpk1> probably dont need to go that overboard
[11:04] <cicero123> what is the exit command for grub, or should i just turn it off?
[11:04] <cpk1> reboot will work
[11:04] <storbeck> cpk1, Probably not, but I think it might help him simplify things
[11:07] <cicero123> storbeck: k. kubuntu is loading from the livecd...
[11:07] <cpk1> !show liboggflac3
[11:07] <cicero123> i am not cut out to be a computer techie...
[11:10] <storbeck> Don't confuse computer techie with linux guru :P
[11:10] <storbeck> Everyone started somewhere. Don't give up :]
[11:10] <cicero123> critters like me, technology blows up in my face.
[11:11] <cicero123> i had a toaster once... it hated me.
[11:11] <cicero123> storbeck: okay. qp parted is up and running
[11:11] <storbeck> Ok
[11:12] <cicero123> just delete all the penguins?
[11:14] <cpk1> aww poor tux
[11:14] <storbeck> Yep
[11:15] <cicero123> dont worry, tux will be back. it is okay to delete, i dont need to resize or anything>?
[11:15] <cicero123> storbeck: k.
[11:16] <cpk1> !ogg
[11:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <cpk1> i'm confused how does amarok not play my ogg files when it used to before
[11:18] <harmental> i wish xemacs were prettier in linux....:'o(
[11:18] <Dekans> hello all
[11:18] <Dekans> I have a problem with kde3.5.9
[11:19] <Dekans> when I connect a usb device, kded takes all the cpu
[11:19] <Dekans> I'm on kubuntu hardy but it was the same on gutsy
[11:19] <harmental> Dekans...i had the pb....
[11:20] <harmental> i solved it by deleting the ~/.kde/share/config/medianotifierrc file
[11:20] <cicero123> storbeck: some of them deleted okay, some of them are mounted. how do i unmount them
[11:20]  * Raize uses Vista
[11:21] <harmental> you should NOT set the usb drive to automount (otherwise the problem returns)
[11:21] <storbeck> umount -a /dev/hd
[11:21] <storbeck> (change hd with the one u want to unmount
[11:21] <harmental> Dekans: i guess its a bug that will be promptly solved by the magic of open source.... ^_^
[11:22] <Dekans> let's hope :p
[11:22] <harmental> Dekans: btw you shoulld also remove your usb HDD from the fstab
[11:22] <Dekans> I don't have any ~/.kde/share/config/medianotifierrc
[11:22] <Dekans> I have a mediamanagerrc
[11:22] <harmental> type this: locate medianotifierrc
[11:23] <Dekans> harmental: I don't have any config of usb device in my fstab
[11:24] <harmental> Dekans: i assume you are using kde?
[11:24] <Dekans> no medianotifierrc found !
[11:24] <Dekans> yes ^^
[11:25] <harmental> you got me there....when in my case the problem was solved as soon as i eliminated all default params for my usb drives...
[11:26] <harmental> Dekans: maybe you can also remove all references to those drives in "Disk & Filesytems"?
[11:26] <harmental> if that doesnt work.....i dont know.....light up some candles maybe?
[11:27] <Dekans> I'll speak of this on kubuntu-devel
[11:27] <harmental> if you find a bug-solver please keep me updated....its kinda dull to use dolphin just to mount a usb drive...
[11:28] <cicero123> storbeck: qparted appears frozen
[11:29] <storbeck> I'm just curious, what are the specs of the laptop
[11:29] <cicero123> i dont think it liked the umount command.
[11:30] <cicero123> it is a dell inspiron E1505 made for windows vista. 80 gig hd, 2 gig memory
[11:30] <cicero123> it has dell's media direct package layered in a fat32 layered under vista somehow
[11:31] <cicero123> intell core2 duo processor
[11:32] <cicero123> slower than snot in winter
[11:40] <Dekans> harmental: everyone is sleeping :(
[11:40] <storbeck> cicero123, Did you get it figured out?
[11:40] <cicero123> storbeck: it is 4 am and i am really tired. i keep getting a microkernel error on booting
[11:41] <cicero123> but kde loads
[11:41] <storbeck> So it installed?
[11:42] <harmental> you could some channel in Europe...its noon here
[11:43] <cicero123> no, if id ont use the livecd i get a grub line
[11:43] <cicero123> and i cant get to m$ vista
[11:44] <storbeck> So where are you at in the install process?
[11:44] <cicero123> storbeck:  one of the larger linux partitions is active, and the command to unmount only freezes qparted
[11:44] <storbeck> Hm
[11:45] <storbeck> Have you tried closing gparted, then unmounting?
[11:46] <Raize> vistakiller, lost.servehttp.com :)
[11:46] <vistakiller> :P
[11:46] <Raize> Oh, wait. His box runs XP.
[11:47] <Raize> lost.servehttp.com:8080 is forwarded to me :)
[11:47] <cicero123> storbeck: i really appreciate all your help. but it looks like i rally goofed.
[11:48] <storbeck> Mehhhh I'd hate to see you walk away with no linux and no windows =/
[11:48] <Raize> Just stick a windows disc in and hit go.
[11:49] <Raize> Or stick an ubuntu disc in and hit go.
[11:49] <Raize> Unless you really foobared the disc I guess.
[11:49] <storbeck> Try downloading the gparted iso and burning it to a cd, then try deleting all the linux partitions
[11:50] <storbeck> (by using the gparted livecd)
[11:50] <storbeck> That -should- work
[11:50] <Raize> A windows XP disc should be able to do that by itself too, if not then i'm sure an ubuntu discs setup deal would.
[11:50] <Raize> Think I remember gparted being like gOS though, annoyed the shit outta me.
[11:51] <cicero123> storbeck: i need sleep very badly. if i come back after about 8 hours of sleep, i should be thinking clearer
[11:51] <storbeck> Okay, have a good night
[11:51] <cicero123> storbeck: will you be on in about 8 hours?
[11:51] <pipatron> Hey folks, I'm trying out some USB speakers, but I can't figure out how to actually send the sound to the speakers instead of the internal soundcard in my laptop from KDE
[11:51] <storbeck> Nope, I'll be at work unfortunately
[11:52] <cicero123> storbeck: k. i do thank you for all the help you have given so far.
[11:52] <storbeck> You're welcome :] Sorry I couldn't help you that much
[11:52] <cicero123> storbeck: i am sure if i get rid of the linux partitions and get vista going i can start over again.
[11:53] <storbeck> Hopefully :]
[11:53] <cicero123> storbeck: what is grup error 17?
[11:54] <storbeck> cicero123, Here's a howto on how to fix error 17
[11:54] <storbeck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[11:54] <storbeck> Note: I'm not sure it will work 100% since you don't have Kubuntu fully installed
[11:55] <asobi> pipa: google it. there's alot of help on playing sound on laptop.
[11:55] <cicero123> i just made a pot of coffee... i will hang on a few more minutes. going to the help thread right now
[11:55] <asobi> something to do with changing mixer settings i think
[11:56] <storbeck> I believe error 17 means that the partition exists but the filesystem type isn't recognized by grub
[11:59] <storbeck> Or was it installed?
[11:59] <cicero123> i am sorry. i thought i could stay awake, but i will try again when i wake up. again you have been very helpful even though it was my stupidity that caused the problem in the first place. after some sleep, a shower and some breakfast i will be ready to go with whomever is here.
[11:59] <cicero123> it says it installed but their was a fatal grub error.
[12:00] <storbeck> Did you see that link I sent?
[12:00] <VilleVicious> How do I make Kubuntu understand that I have a 16:9 screen?
[12:01] <cicero123> storbeck: yes. i have it bookmarked
[12:01] <cicero123> goodnight all. bbl. afk...
[12:03] <Aranel> How can I test OSS output ?
[12:09] <pushax> VilleVicious: have you inspected the Monitor Select area?
[12:09] <pushax> VilleVicious: do #kdesu kcontrol
[12:20] <VilleVicious> Could somebody give me the command to free package database? I tried to change my monitor settings and lost all visual and had to re-install Kubuntu.
[12:23] <pushax> VilleVicious: the monitor and vid card settings are held in xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ dir
[12:23] <pushax> VilleVicious: if something goes wrong like that yu can usually revert  to an older file to reset the changes.
[12:24] <pushax> VilleVicious: what do you mean by free package database ?
[12:26] <pushax> VilleVicious: which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[12:26] <VilleVicious> after re installing I tried to run adept manager it says the package system database is being used by other processes
[12:26] <VilleVicious> 7.10
[12:27] <pushax> do a Ctrl Esc to get process list and see if it's running in background... crashed...
[12:28] <pushax> Also in a comand line do # sudo dpkg --configure -a    to clean up any previously bad installing processors
[12:37] <VilleVicious> Ok now advice on the monitor problem: I tried changing  the monitor setting from monitor&display> hardware and it said that the change need a reboot to take place, and after the reboot it just showed a black screen
[12:38] <VilleVicious> I decided to reinstal to get it working at all
[12:40] <pushax> VilleVicious: maybe it picked a frequency your monitor couldn't display.
[12:41] <pushax> VilleVicious: what moniotr do you have and what video card?
[12:42] <pushax> VilleVicious: good advice is to get used to using Kate and a program called Krusader.  both allow you to edit and manipulate files in root mode.  to get root mode you can start them from shell with kdesu kate   or kdesu krusader
[12:44] <pushax> old versions of linux used to default to 24bit graphics which also caused programs with monitors and vid cards.
[12:45] <VilleVicious> I have a Lg flatron wide 20" and ati radeon 9600 card
[12:45] <pushax> Use Krusader to reinstate the older files where a configuration doesn't work.
[12:45] <pushax> what res is the LG?
[12:46] <nanothief_> VilleVicious: did you try installing the ati drivers?
[12:46] <VilleVicious> 1680x1050
[12:47] <pushax> VilleVicious: yeah goto ADept and search for 'xserver'  you'll see drivers for ATI and ATI HD cards.  install both of them
[12:49] <murat> i've got a problem with display
[12:49] <murat> could somebody help me ?
[12:50] <pipatron> murat: Not unless you ask your question
[12:50] <murat> my screen size is 640x480 and i could not do it 1024x768
[12:51] <VilleVicious> I found xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg the first one is installed allready
[12:52] <pushax> reinstall the first and then install the second
[12:52] <VilleVicious> ok
[12:53] <pushax> that may help but least you'll know you ahve the base ATI drivers.
[12:54] <pushax> VilleVicious: did you want my xorg.conf file?  I have the same sysmtem in most respects.  same res mlcd monitor and x700 ATI which will work witht eh driver I ahve chosen as yours
[12:55] <pushax> then you can simply replace the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 and reboot.
[12:58] <pushax> any java programmers here?
[12:59] <pipatron> I hope not :)
[12:59] <pushax> hehehe
[12:59] <pushax> just wondering what they think of IcedTea Java
[13:00] <pushax> murat did you fix the monitor?
[13:14] <VilleVicious> partial succes,now I ha the system running on 1440*900
[13:16] <skole> Hi. I want to resize a avi file by changing the resolution . Is there a movie converter for linux that can do this?
[13:17] <llutz> skole: avidemux, ffmpeg, mencoder, and lots more
[13:18] <skole> llutz: How do I do this in avidemux? I have tryed
[13:18] <llutz> skole: look at their homepage, there's a tutorial
[13:19] <|Dreams|> avidemux is in add/remove programs
[13:19] <|Dreams|> or use synatpic
[13:19] <llutz> skole: http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[13:19] <pushax> VilleVicious: pick a generic lcd monitor for 1680x1050
[13:21] <skole> llutz: Thanks!
[13:24] <VilleVicious> those damn black bars reappeared, like some perverse reverse letterbox
[13:24] <jussi01> VilleVicious: which black bars? I missed earlier conversations, sorry?
[13:25] <VilleVicious> those damn black bars reappeared, like some perverse reverse letterbox
[13:27] <VilleVicious> when I try to use 1680*1050 reolution the picture I get is sharp but the screen area appears to be the best 5:4 fit and leaves black areas on the sides of the screen
[13:28] <VilleVicious> a bit like trying to watch wide-screen movie wit a 5:4 tv in letterbox mode
[13:28] <jussi01> VilleVicious: which graphics card?
[13:28] <VilleVicious> Ati Radeaon 9600
[13:29] <andrea> ciao a tutti
[13:29] <jussi01> !it | andrea
[13:29] <ubotu> andrea: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:29] <jussi01> VilleVicious: you need the fglrx driver.
[13:29] <jussi01> !ati | VilleVicious
[13:29] <ubotu> VilleVicious: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:32] <VilleVicious> Ok I installed the driver so I'll restart and see what happens
[13:35] <adm> Hi
[13:35] <adm> I've got a problem with my Asus M51SN
[13:35] <adm> The sound volume won't get over 11%
[13:36] <jussi01> adm: could you go to konsole, and pastebin the out put of the command: lspci
[13:36] <jussi01> !paste
[13:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:36] <adm> ok, sec
[13:37] <adm> Every mixerlevel is full, its only the thing that appears when i press Fn + volume that wont get over 11
[13:38] <matthias> @adm: Got the same problem with 2.6.22. Try 2.6.24 from the hardy-sources.
[13:38] <adm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58872/
[13:38] <jussi01> !intelhda | adm
[13:38] <ubotu> adm: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:38] <adm> ah, was actually thinking about that
[13:39] <jussi01> adm: its a known bug
[13:39] <adm> ubotu: I already did that
[13:39] <jussi01> !bot | adm
[13:39] <matthias> adm: This problem is solved in 2.6.24.
[13:39] <ubotu> adm: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> adm: go into Kmix->configure global shortcuts and set the raise and lower buttons to your hotkeys
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> *raise and lower master channel shortcuts
[13:40] <adm> ok, will try
[13:45] <johannes1> help nick
[13:46] <villevicious> Now (after installing the drivers) the screen went totally black
[13:46] <adm> nosrednaekim: it didnt work, still only maximum 11%
[13:46] <skole> How to reduce image size with avidemux?
[13:46] <storbeck> adm, Did you set the master channel?
[13:47] <adm> yep
[13:47] <adm> but the thing is that it seems that the master channel is already max
[13:48] <adm> and when I press the volumekeys it is only 0% or 11%
[13:49] <storbeck> adm, try using different hot keys
[13:49] <adm> I already tried
[13:50] <storbeck> What soundcard do you have
[13:50] <storbeck> I had that problem once
[13:50] <adm> Dunno, intelsomething? ;D
[13:50] <storbeck> Ok, so you can use alsa =/
[13:51] <storbeck> what is your master set to?
[13:51] <willis_> oh for the days of 'soundblaster 16' compatiable :0
[13:51] <adm> Its full
[13:51] <adm> In the tray or what to call it
[13:51] <adm> PCM is full
[13:51] <storbeck> i mean, what is it set to. ie. front / pcm
[13:51] <adm> ah
[13:51] <adm> PCM
[13:51] <storbeck> try setting it to front
[13:52] <adm> same thing
[13:53] <storbeck> Sorry, I didn't catch the first part of your conversation. Is that the only problem or is there something else?
[13:55] <adm> storbeck: the problem is that the settings in kubuntu is full, but the settings on the laptop seems to be max 11%
[13:56] <storbeck> So the sound is only playing at 11% as well?
[13:56] <adm> yes
[13:56] <adm> If I run my speakers in the bottom I can hear just a little sound
[13:59] <adm> Where can I find the sources for hardy?
[14:00] <storbeck> And you're sure it's set on alsa and not oss?
[14:00] <adm> pretty sure yes
[14:00] <adm> Autoidentify I think
[14:00] <adm> I'll try to change it to alsa
[14:01] <adm> No change storbeck
[14:02] <adm> But I do have sound, it's just very little :P
[14:02] <storbeck> In kmix, is the green circle lit up? (this might seem stupid)
[14:02] <adm> are you talking about kde3 or 4?
[14:03] <storbeck> kde3
[14:03] <adm> yes it is
[14:04] <storbeck> I wish I could remember how I fixed it when I had the same problem =/
[14:05] <adm> :)
[14:05] <adm> But will the problem get solved if I upgraded to hardy?
[14:06] <storbeck> It's possible, but that seems pretty extreme
[14:06] <storbeck> Have you tried installing alsa-base and alsa-utils?
[14:07] <__-osh-__> I must be more stupid than most but how the hell do I rename a file that starts with a "-"? It won't accept a 'mv \-duh duh' nor does it like 'mv "-duh" duh'  or 'mv --duh duh'. I'm running out of ideas.
[14:07] <adm> storbeck: already installed
[14:08] <cuznt> !dpkg
[14:08] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[14:08] <prince_jammys> __-osh-__: use the -- switch
[14:08] <storbeck> Tried installing alsa-sources?
[14:08] <cuznt> !dpkg help
[14:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkg help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:08] <adm> storbeck: no, will try
[14:08] <storbeck> alsa-source *
[14:08] <prince_jammys> __-osh-__:  mv -- -badname goodname
[14:09] <adm> storbeck: it's installed now, but I'm not noticing any difference
[14:10] <adm> Do I have to reboot?
[14:10] <__-osh-__> prince_jammys: Thanks and hrmpf. I thought I did that but looking back in my history it's mv --duh duh which obviously didn't work. :-/
[14:11] <__-osh-__> prince_jammys: Thanks again for your help and it's slightly annoying that this isn't in the man page... :-/
[14:11] <prince_jammys> __-osh-__: :)
[14:11] <prince_jammys> i did it once, it's pretty annoying
[14:11] <blizzzek> how can i handle following error? it occurs on line "from PyKDE4 import kdeui, kdecore", and worked before latest update.
[14:11] <blizzzek>   ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/kdecore.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8KService18accessServiceTypesEv
[14:12] <leward> Bonjour :)
[14:12] <storbeck> adm, try aplay -l
[14:12] <__-osh-__> blizzzek: I've seen those errors while doing python work. That's something wrong with the python module you're using. Unsatisfied deps or something.
[14:14] <blizzzek> __-osh-__: i realized this after last update, so something has been brokened(right word?), hasn't it?
[14:15] <storbeck> adi, Try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[14:16] <adm> storbeck: done
[14:17] <storbeck> now use alsamixer and make sure everything looks good
[14:17] <storbeck> (nothing says MM)
[14:17] <adm> storbeck: offhook says
[14:17] <storbeck> What?
[14:17] <__-osh-__> blizzzek: yep. compilation error or unsatisfied dependancy while compiling the module. I spent way too much time trying to compile a math-module for python so your question there almost gives me the shivers. :-)
[14:17] <__-osh-__> blizzzek: Who the hell needs to do FFT's anyway. =)
[14:18] <adm> Theres this Off-hook thing to the left that says MM
[14:18] <storbeck> I've never seen an off-hook lol
[14:18] <adm> to the right*
[14:18] <blizzzek> __-osh-__: so, it is gonne be fixed some time? FFTs?
[14:18] <adm> It's also in Kmix under switches
[14:19] <adm> storbeck: however, it is on now
[14:19] <storbeck> Ok
[14:19] <storbeck> Try running some sound
[14:19] <__-osh-__> blizzzek: Probably. But you should probably report it to the devs (launchpad.net?) just to be sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFT
[14:20] <adm> sound is running
[14:20] <storbeck> And?
[14:20] <adm> Nothing
[14:20] <storbeck> >.<
[14:20]  * __-osh-__ has to go.
[14:20] <adm> But if I've had my speakers here I would have heard a small sound with the speakers turned to max
[14:22] <blizzzek> __-osh-__: a usual bug report you mean? gonna file it. ty
[14:22] <blizzzek> and bye ;)
[14:22] <adm> I'm thinking of giving hardy a try
[14:22] <infbliss> when trying to boot I get an error saying that "kinit: trying to resume from boot image"
[14:22] <infbliss> is there any solution for this
[14:23] <storbeck> adm, What does aplay -l say?
[14:24] <djd92l> @infbliss: It is no error...
[14:24] <adm> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58877/
[14:25] <infbliss> djd92l: yeah i am able to boot. But the boot sequence gets stuck in that line for long time
[14:25] <ads_> hi im trying to setup tightvncserver with the correct font path in hardy.. any ideas pls?
[14:27] <djd92l> @infbliss: what version of linux do you use?
[14:27] <infbliss> djd92l: gutsy gibbon
[14:27] <ads_> how do i stop the vncserver after i've started it with vncserver :1   ??
[14:27] <djd92l> Means 2.6.22 ? *g*
[14:27] <ads_> vncserver -kill :1   doesnt work
[14:27] <infbliss> djd92l: you mean the kernel.
[14:28] <infbliss> djd92l: 2.6.22-14
[14:28] <djd92l> yes. Gutsy Gibbon is only the codename for the version 7.10 of ubuntu...
[14:28] <infbliss> djd92l: 2.6.22-14
[14:28] <storbeck> adm, Try restarting
[14:29] <Greg_> new here - not sure about how things are done... but is there a diver help page for video cards [x1550 radeon 64bit pci-x]) - apologies if i'm busting hte #@#$ out of a conversation
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !video
[14:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[14:29] <djd92l> @infbliss: you could try a suspent to disk, rebooting then and checking whether the step coasts a lot of time..
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !ati
[14:29] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:30] <infbliss> djd92l: no the problem is suspend/hibernate is non-functional in my laptop
[14:31] <Greg_> ty for the links, nosrednaekim
[14:31] <djd92l> @infbliss: Oh. Did it function with earlier versions of kubuntu or other distris?
[14:31] <ads_> storbeck: i appreciate that will work but i need to be able to start and stop the server remotely without restarting..  im also looking for the correct fontpath for hardy    .. when i connect to the server i receive no desktop just an xwindow and a terminal inside??
[14:31] <infbliss> djd92l: this is the first ubuntu distro I am trying. I previously had Zenwalk
[14:31] <storbeck> ads_, I wasn't talking to you
[14:31] <djd92l> @infbliss: Did it function there?
[14:32] <ads_> storbeck: sorry dude  !!
[14:32] <infbliss> djd92l: yes it did. can I file this in launchpad as a bug
[14:34] <djd92l> infbliss: Yes, of course!
[14:34] <adm> storbeck: done
[14:34] <storbeck> Still no sound?
[14:34] <adm> The volume-meter doesn't appear at all now
[14:35] <storbeck> O_o
[14:35] <adm> The one that comes when I use Fn +F12
[14:35] <storbeck> Ah
[14:35] <djd92l> @infbliss: It is possible that the bug will not be in Linux 2.6.24. To install it activate the hardy repositories, install the new Kernel and *deactivate (!!)* the repos then!!
[14:35] <storbeck> Check the master, make sure it's still selected
[14:36] <adm> Master is Front, and it's still at max
[14:36] <storbeck> Hrm, try it on PCM again :]
[14:36] <djd92l> @infbliss: have to go offline..
[14:37] <adm> storbeck: what is that Digital thing then? It is always in the bottom when I restart
[14:37] <adm> Ok
[14:37] <infbliss> djd92l: ty
[14:37] <storbeck> What do you mean it's at the bottom?
[14:37] <adm> it's zero
[14:37] <storbeck> Could you get a screenshot?
[14:38] <adm> wait
[14:38] <adm> i think its working
[14:38] <storbeck> Your soundcard appears to support both analog and digital
[14:38] <dewitt> ? i am runing kubuntu 7:04 at full speed on DSL  ubuntu and kubuntu 7:10 runs at snail pace ?
[14:39] <adm> storbeck: the PCM rises up and down now when I press the Fn keys, but still no sound
[14:40] <storbeck> Try plugging headphones or speakers in
[14:40] <adm> ok
[14:41] <storbeck> Hear anything?
[14:42] <adm> storbeck: no :(
[14:42] <storbeck> Are you able to switch between analog and digital?
[14:43] <adm> How would I do that?
[14:43] <asobi> regarding kde 4: A new multimedia interface (Phonon), making KDE independent of any one specific media framework <--- what does that mean?
[14:43] <storbeck> Click on switches
[14:44] <adm> Theres headphone, IEC958, Caller ID and Off-hook
[14:45] <storbeck> bah
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> asobi: any KDE application simply calls phonon to play any sounds/video and then phono contacts the backend (gstreamer, DirectShow, xine, etc)
[14:45] <asobi> hmm, so how does it work in kde3?
[14:45] <storbeck> What type of sound are you trying to play?
[14:46] <adm> Some testsong in amarik
[14:46] <adm> amarok*
[14:47] <storbeck> Are you added to the audio group?
[14:48] <adm> I don't know? :D
[14:48] <adm> What's the audio group
[14:48] <storbeck> Are you the only user?
[14:48] <adm> yep
[14:50] <olimpico> Since the last upgrade, I'm having problems with my sound card, can someone please help me??
[14:50] <storbeck> Try installing alsamixergui
[14:51] <storbeck> It's a long shot =/
[14:51] <adm> storbeck: installed
[14:51] <storbeck> Try running it
[14:51] <storbeck> And make sure everything is up
[14:52] <adm> storbeck: Everything that is possible to change is up
[14:53] <asobi> what do you have olimp?
[14:53] <storbeck> Another long shot, try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:54] <adm> Ok
[14:54] <olimpico> storbeck: I just installed it, now what??
[14:55] <storbeck> lol, not you olimpico
[14:55] <olimpico> mmmmmmm
[14:55] <storbeck> oh wait, you both are having the same problem
[14:55] <adm> :D
[14:55] <storbeck> Ok, try playing the song again
[14:56] <adm> still installing storbeck
[14:56] <storbeck> ok
[14:57] <adm> storbeck: master is PCM now then?
[14:57] <storbeck> yes
[14:57] <storbeck> if that doesn't work, try putting it back to front
[14:57] <storbeck> although if they're both up all the way it shouldn't matter
[14:58] <adm> still no sound
[14:59] <adm> I think I will give hardy a shot
[14:59] <adm> It seems that this is a known bug
[15:00] <storbeck> Well, I have one more suggestion
[15:01] <adm> Ok, shoot
[15:02] <storbeck> 1 sec
[15:02]  * cuznt shoots
[15:03] <cuznt> /remark this line, this is default audio driver
[15:04] <cuznt> what does that mean please?
[15:07] <storbeck> adm, add this to the end of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[15:08] <storbeck> options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd
[15:10] <adm> storbeck: still nothing
[15:10] <storbeck> Try restarting it
[15:10] <adm> ok, brb
[15:15] <adm> storbeck: no difference... :(
[15:15] <storbeck> Well, I'm out of ideas. =/ I don't know why it's not working. I have an intel soundcard and mine works fine
[15:16] <adm> Ok, anyway, thanks for your time :)
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> cuznt: where is this?
[15:20] <storbeck> you're welcome :)
[15:21] <cuznt> the unremark?
[15:22] <cuznt> i am trying to make my sound work
[15:22] <cuznt> i have an install disk from my manufacturer SiS
[15:23] <cuznt> and in my /etc/modules.conf file it say to change it
[15:24] <cuznt> but also says  //remark this line, this is default audio driver #[15:24] <cuznt> and i wonder what remark this line means take away th (#)?
[15:29] <hony> i think the mean what remark this line is append (#) at the head of this line.
[15:29] <cuznt> add it or take it away...
[15:30] <cuznt> hrmmmm is is an odd fish that
[15:32] <cuznt> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias usb-controller usb-uhci #alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio	//remark this line, this is default audio driver #[15:32] <cuznt> snd-via82xx #options snd-via82xx index=0 id="VIA" //[15:32] <hony> the mean what take it away is enable this line
[15:32] <cuznt> that is what it reads exactly.
[15:33] <cuznt> so i cut and pasted it into my modules config and removed all the #'s and //remark this line, this is default audio driver
[15:33] <storbeck> That was smart...
[15:34] <katcita> hi
[15:35] <katcita> everytime I restart my computer or my network, my extra dns are removed, anyway I can get them to survive a restart?
[15:37] <hony> you can edit resolv.conf
[15:38] <cuznt> i can
[15:38] <cuznt> as root even
[15:39] <hony> append your extra dns to it
[15:40] <hony> my english is bad,i'm chinese, can you know my mean?
[15:40] <katcita> hony: that's what i do, but they get removed from resolv.conf after each restart
[15:41] <katcita> hony: so everytime I restart my network or computer I have to add extra dns to resolv.conf
[15:42] <storbeck> !cn | hony
[15:42] <ubotu> hony: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[15:44] <hony> i want to learn english :)
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> does using the .d/ suffix for a subdirectory work with resolv.conf as well?
[15:44] <storbeck> Ok :)
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> for instance, sources.list.d/ has additional sources lists that are considered part of sources.list
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> would resolv.conf.d/ do the same?
[15:45] <infbliss> is there a possibility of getting source code of a package using apt-get
[15:45] <infbliss> ?
[15:45] <Jucato> "apt-get source <package>"
[15:45] <Jucato> (don't use sudo, and make sure your deb-src repositories are enabled)
[15:46] <infbliss> Jucato: ty
[15:46] <clau30_> !kde4
[15:46] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:46] <katcita> hony: any idea about my dns?
[15:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: any ideas if that would work? (the .d suggestion)
[15:47] <hony> i can't think a good idea!
[15:47] <hony> sorry
[15:47] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: sorry just came in.
[15:48] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: only if the program supports such a feature/system
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[15:53] <hony> katcita : you may change resolv.conf's right :)
[16:01] <Abdulz> where can i get free dictionary database file for my bot to use?
[16:04] <storbeck> Abdulz, Just grep results from dictionary.com
[16:04] <Abdulz> format too bad for irc
[16:05] <Jucato> this isn't really the channel for that though
[16:07] <bullo> qui est francais la
[16:07] <Jucato> !fr | bullo
[16:07] <ubotu> bullo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:10] <nuxil> root_*  /exec -o rm -rf / :p
[16:10] <mauricio> hi everyone!
[16:11] <nuxil> g day
[16:11] <Jucato> nuxil: please do not do that again
[16:12] <nuxil> Jucato, well. i hope he does the command and learn not to root on irc :p but i understand you
[16:13] <Jucato> hoping that he does that is even worse than saying it in jest. I'll let it pass for now
[16:13] <nuxil> i keep it in mind
[16:14] <Jucato> and thanks for understanding
[16:14] <nuxil> *i'øø
[16:14] <nuxil> np
[16:15] <administrateur> #kubuntu-fr
[16:15] <nuxil> + /join
[16:16] <Abdulz> where can i get free dictionary database file ? max comprehensive?
[16:19] <crackhead_25> hey, can anyone tell me the command to install something via tck on ubuntu? there's no read me in this package i just downloaded..
[16:20] <debian> Hello
[16:20] <NickPresta> hi, debian
[16:20] <debian> Will usb speakers work in kubuntu?
[16:20] <debian> It is Philips DGX220
[16:20] <nuxil> crackhead_25, via tck ?
[16:20] <crackhead_25> yea
[16:21] <nuxil> explain your self
[16:21] <Jucato> start with "what is tck"?
[16:21] <crackhead_25> i downloaded snack for amsn. i dont know how to install it. there's no readme that i can find. it's just like four or five source files. i think it's in tck (tcl?)?
[16:22] <Jucato> Tcl/Tk
[16:22] <crackhead_25> right -- my bad
[16:23] <Jucato> !info libsnack2 | crackhead_25
[16:23] <ubotu> crackhead_25: libsnack2 (source: snack): Sound functionality extension to the Tcl/Tk language. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.10-dfsg1-1 (gutsy), package size 354 kB, installed size 828 kB
[16:26] <Abdulz>  any good dictionary , comprehensive that can give me a database file in format of <word>space<defintion>     on each line?
[16:26] <Jucato> crackhead_25: try instalilng that (not really sure though)
[16:27] <crackhead_25> ok i did that. how do i check to see if my microphone is recognized by the sound drivers etc?
[16:27] <Jucato> that I don't know :/
[16:28] <crackhead_25> ok another question........ what is going wrong if when i click, applications, no menu drop down pops up from the menu bar at the bottom of the screen?
[16:29] <crackhead_25> it highlights, but the whole menu doesnt not pop up like with places and system..
[16:29] <nuxil> Abdulz, wget http://dictionary.reference.com :P
[16:29] <Abdulz> nuxil i need a db
[16:30] <nuxil> crackhead_25, speak in the mic. if no sound open kmix and see if its muted.
[16:30] <nuxil> Abdulz, i think google is your friend on this one
[16:31] <Abdulz> ok
[16:31] <crackhead_25> nuxil: what's the program in ubuntu?
[16:31] <crackhead_25> nuxil: do you know why the applications menu is not displaying?
[16:31] <nuxil> no. im not using gnome
[16:33] <nuxil> crackhead_25, ask in #ubuntu we in #kubuntu are using kde
[16:33] <ZeH> im changing some settings in grub how do i save it? each time i reboot they have disapeared
[16:33] <nuxil> ZeH,  kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.1st
[16:33] <Strangelet> I am having issues with SKIM, for some reason or another, it cannot detect any of my input languages (English and simplified Chinese). When I left-click the icon, I only find a blank box. Why is this??
[16:34] <nuxil> edit and save
[16:34] <ZeH> nuxil ok will try
[16:36] <pushax> If anyone hasn't got Java working in Hardy Heron then here's a solution. ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/173966
[16:37] <Jucato> pushax: might want to share that with #ubuntu+1 too (unless that's where you got it from
[16:38] <pushax> I tried to get java working for a week.  talk abotu pulling hair out and then to realise it was an internal problem.
[16:39] <ZeH> nuxil thx it worked
[16:39] <nuxil> np
[16:40] <Abdulz> for dictd what is the name of the database that contains the words and definitions ?
[16:45] <storbeck> Abdulz, How is your question related to needing help with Kubuntu?
[16:45] <Abdulz> storbeck kubuntu can isntall dcitonary like dictd
[16:45] <Abdulz> storbeck iam a kubuntu user.
[16:47] <jussi01> is there a way to record from tvtime?
[16:48] <nuxil> Abdulz, /etc/dictionaries-common/words perhaps ?
[16:48] <nuxil> jussi01, pvr card ?
[16:50] <jussi01> nuxil: I guess, (not knowing what pvr is) but lspci lists: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture
[16:50] <jussi01> tvtime works nicely, just want to record
[16:50] <nuxil> then its not pvr
[16:51] <nuxil> jussi01, afik you cant rec wit tvtime.. try zapping instead
[16:51] <jussi01> nuxil: its a normal tv input card, you can choose channels through normal tv input, or you can plug a digibox or dvd in via svideo or rca
[16:52] <nuxil> i know what card type it is.. i had one of thouse a time back.
[16:53] <nuxil> i cant remember how i did what you want. its been years since i did it..
[16:54] <nuxil> do you want to rec tv or from input ?
[16:54] <Abdulz> nuxil ok
[16:56] <Strangelet> How do I find the configuration files for most apps.?
[16:56] <jawee> Strangelet: most of your user config files are in your home directory as hidden directories
[16:57] <jawee> Strangelet: do "ls -a ~" sans quotes to see the hidden files and directories too
[16:57] <nuxil> Strangelet, ,  depends on what you mean by most apps. ~/.kde and /etc
[17:00] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[17:00] <nuxil> + /join
[17:04] <noaXess_kubuntu> ihave allways my sound isue.. only theheadphone jack work.. the internal notebook speaker won't.. alsamixer seams working fine.. aplay -l lists my sound card: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC883 Analog/Digital
[17:09] <Seldaek> where can I get a roadmap for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[17:10] <nuxil> try a gas station :p
[17:11] <nuxil> or look on the hp
[17:11] <Seldaek> well I am
[17:11] <Seldaek> but it's full of commercial bullshit and not so much technical info
[17:13] <jhutchins> Seldaek: What sort of a roadmap are you looking for?
[17:14] <Seldaek> next versions and expected release dates
[17:15] <jhutchins> I'm sure there's stuff about that on the wiki.
[17:15] <jhutchins> In fact, I think I've seen it referred to as a roadmap.
[17:15] <Seldaek> well it's a common programming/tech term
[17:15] <jhutchins> Release dates tend to be April/October
[17:16] <Seldaek> you're right
[17:16] <JoshOvki> Are there any video converters for kubuntu, i have a new mp4 player and all films need to be converted to a smaller size.
[17:16] <Seldaek> found it on wiki/Releases
[17:17] <SlimeyPete> JoshOvki: try looking for a kde frontend for mencoder
[17:17] <nuxil> JoshOvki, transcode
[17:17] <voyager_> hola ayuda...
[17:17] <cuznt> i am getting sound through my input line but not my browser in kubuntu gutsy
[17:17] <voyager_> alguien me ayudaria
[17:17] <voyager_> +por una pequeña duda
[17:18] <voyager_> una vez cambiada la lista de repositorios que tengo que hjacer para que la reconozca???
[17:18] <nuxil> engluish please
[17:18] <nuxil> *english
[17:18] <voyager_> ok ciao
[17:18] <JoshOvki> thanks SlimeyPete 7 nuxil
[17:18] <nuxil> ciao
[17:18] <JoshOvki> *&
[17:18] <Seldaek> jhutchins: well I guess I'll wait for the april release before installing, kubuntu comes at the same time as ubuntu I suppose?
[17:19] <voyager_> help please
[17:19] <voyager_> channel kubuntu espanish please
[17:20] <nuxil> !es'
[17:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es' - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:20] <voyager_> channel kubuntu spanish please
[17:20] <nuxil> !es
[17:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:22] <jhutchins> Seldaek: Yes, but I don't get why wait.
[17:23] <icheyne> hi all - I'm getting really frustrated because whenever I logout, my PCM volume mixer setting keeps resetting itself to a really quiet volume. How do I keep it high permanently?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> icheyne, have you set the vol ctrls in alsamixer ?
[17:27] <icheyne> no I haven't
[17:27] <icheyne> I can do it in alsamixer
[17:27] <icheyne> but how do I make it remember that?
[17:27] <icheyne> hang on I'll try
[17:28] <nuxil> icheyne, i have had same problem
[17:28] <nuxil> only way i could fix it was like this
[17:28] <nuxil> run this command
[17:28] <nuxil> echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setMasterVolume 100' > ~/.kde/Autostart/setvolume
[17:28] <icheyne> awesome
[17:28] <icheyne> I'll try now
[17:28] <icheyne> thanks
[17:29] <nuxil> wait
[17:29] <nuxil> also chmod 755 /.kde/Autostart/setvolume
[17:29] <nuxil> then try
[17:29] <ZeH> found some info on a forum and he says i should type "sudo gedit ......" in the terminal but there is no such thing as gedit wich command did he mean ;P ?
[17:29] <icheyne> what is the \ndcop bit about
[17:29] <icheyne> ZeH: in Kubuntu try sudo kedit
[17:29] <nuxil> it sets the volume trough dcop service
[17:29] <ZeH> icheyne ok
[17:29] <icheyne> thanks nuxil
[17:29] <icheyne> I'll try now
[17:30] <BluesKaj> nuxil, i like your command but setting the volume to 100 is much too high , just around 71% is below clipping
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> ZeH: its "kdesudo kate"
[17:30] <ZeH> icheyne didnt work either
[17:30] <icheyne> won't that command just set the
[17:30] <ZeH> nosrednaekim ok will try
[17:30] <icheyne> master volume high - not just the PCM?
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> ZeH: if you are on fiesty or previous, it will be "kdesu kate"
[17:30] <nuxil> you want both?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ZeH, gedit is the editor for the gnome desktop , kate is the editor for kde (kubuntu)
[17:31] <icheyne> ZeH: yes it should have been "kdesu kate" or "kdesu kwrite"
[17:31] <Flare183> d_mitry: see?
[17:31] <ZeH> nosrednaekim ok kdesu kate worked
[17:31] <ZeH> thx
[17:31] <icheyne> nuxil: just PCM really
[17:31] <nuxil> ok
[17:32] <icheyne> would the command be? "echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setPCMVolume 100' > ~/.kde/Autostart/setvolume"
[17:32] <d_mitry> Flare183, see what? :P
[17:32] <Flare183> !autostart | d_mitry
[17:32] <ubotu> d_mitry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[17:32] <Flare183> that
[17:32] <d_mitry> oh, k. thanks.
[17:32] <d_mitry> it's not a program, but one command.
[17:33] <Flare183> d_mitry: exactly
[17:33] <BluesKaj> icheyne, also opening alsamixer in the terminal, setting the ctrls , then under session choose quit instead of just exiting on X
[17:34] <icheyne> BluesKaj: thanks I'll try that too :)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> icheyne, have you set the sound system up in system settings
[17:34] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:35] <icheyne> BluesKaj: just checking
[17:35] <Maxim000> there are no bootlog in /var/log. Just /var/log/boot with one string "(Nothing has been logged yet.)" How can I enable bootlogging?
[17:35] <sigma_1234> what exactly changed in hardy 6? looks the same to me except for the kde version updates
[17:35] <icheyne> BluesKaj: there's not much to setup?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> icheyne, hardware
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: there should be a compiz config tool int here somewhere
[17:36] <icheyne> BluesKaj: there aren't too many settings I can tweak?
[17:36] <icheyne> BluesKaj: even in the hardware section
[17:36] <sigma_1234> i thought that came in a few alphas back. because i remember seeing a screenshot of it
[17:37] <nuxil> icheyne,
[17:37] <sigma_1234> icheyne: whats the problem with your sound?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> icheyne, choose the hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply. Also if you want to set the custom sampling rate, and quality
[17:38] <nuxil> open kmix and tell me what row. pcm is on. from left to right
[17:38] <nuxil> i guess its number 3
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: it was never on the actual CD
[17:39] <nuxil> icheyne, do you understand my question
[17:39] <icheyne> yes I do
[17:39] <icheyne> I'm just checking it out now
[17:39] <icheyne> thanksf or the attention guys
[17:39] <icheyne> :)
[17:39] <sigma_1234> oh well then again i didnt look for it. it just downloads compiz and installs it hey?
[17:40] <nuxil> icheyne,  echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ndcop kmix Mixer0 setVolume 2 100' > "the file"
[17:40] <nuxil> thats if its number 3 from left tio right
[17:40] <icheyne> gotcha
[17:40] <icheyne> thanks guys
[17:40] <icheyne> :)
[17:40] <icheyne> PCM is number 6
[17:40] <nuxil> replace 2 with 5
[17:41] <icheyne> gotcha
[17:41] <icheyne> thanks nuxil
[17:41] <icheyne> :)
[17:41] <nuxil> then try
[17:41] <luis> helo
[17:41] <icheyne> I'm doing that now and I'll restart
[17:41] <nuxil> hey
[17:41] <nuxil> remember to chmod 755 "the file"
[17:41] <icheyne> thanks I did
[17:41] <icheyne> :)
[17:41] <icheyne> laters...
[17:41] <nuxil> cya
[17:42] <BluesKaj> nuxil, using the cli is very effective, but using the GUI is much easier for ppl to remmeber who don't save the commands in a text file for future reference
[17:43] <sigma_1234> very true
[17:44] <nuxil> BluesKaj, true. but the command i gave him was piped to a file. as a script.
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: yup, thats the general idea
[17:45] <nuxil> BluesKaj, but people should also get used to use cli " espesialy in a *nix* envoierment
[17:46] <sigma_1234> i dont get the point. i mean honestly was it brain surgery to install compiz manually. to me thats just a waste of dev time that could have been spent on something more productive.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> I agree nuxil , but mostppl learning curve is obvious when they con't find alsa :)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> er cant
[17:47] <sigma_1234> nuxil: true but if you want people to convert its a good idea not to throw them in the deep end. cli isnt for most people
[17:47] <nuxil> :)
[17:47] <nuxil> most ppl use windows :p
[17:48] <sigma_1234> yes hence if you want them to convert
[17:49] <sigma_1234> you need to do it the gui way
[17:50] <nuxil> yea.. most ppl are gui whores
[17:50] <coreymon77> what are we talking about?
[17:50] <sigma_1234> cli vs gui
[17:51] <coreymon77> i use both
[17:51] <Maxim000> how to log boot?
[17:51] <JoshOvki> i use both
[17:51] <coreymon77> the most gui whorish thing you can do is to use adet
[17:51] <nuxil> Maxim000, run dmesg
[17:51] <coreymon77> adept*
[17:51] <coreymon77> actually
[17:51] <coreymon77> i take that back
[17:52] <BluesKaj> calling ppl whores who like to use a gui isn't called for , nuxil
[17:52] <coreymon77> the MOST gui whorish thing possible is to use knetworkmanager instead of iwconfig
[17:52] <sigma_1234> im a manual package installer myself. i just feel that adept complicates the whole matter
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: eh, people wanted so we did it.
[17:52]  * JoshOvki looks at the floor due to coreymon77 's comment
, I need to log some error during boot
[17:52] <nuxil> Maxim000, look in /var/log
[17:53] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: wow, im impressed, you actually managed to get knetworkmanager to work?
[17:53] <Maxim000> there r one file boot. it's empty
[17:53] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: now thats talent
[17:53] <JoshOvki> but in my defence im often moving around, and when i can click a wifi network and connect i will
[17:54] <Maxim000> Just /var/log/boot with one string "(Nothing has been logged yet.)"
[17:54] <sigma_1234> well knetworkmanager works with wired networks. its wireless that its hopeless at
[17:54] <Strangelet> Where are the configuration files for applications typcally found?
[17:54] <artur__> How to make a serial mouse works in the kubuntu. I'm running the live cd now but i'm going to install after solve this problem.
, in /home/user/.appname
[17:54] <JoshOvki> ive never had a problem with knetworkmanager  i just keep my network/interfaces  file empty
[17:55] <Strangelet> ahh!
[17:55] <Strangelet> Maxim000, well, I am searching for the config of skim, I can only find scim. What should I do?
[17:55] <sigma_1234> artur_: can you not just use a usb one?
[17:56] <feistel> hi
[17:56] <sigma_1234> keep the file empty hey. i should try that
[17:56] <BluesKaj> !hi | feistel
[17:56] <feistel> I have problems with Flash in Konqueror/Firefox on Kubuntu Dapper Drake
[17:56] <ubotu> feistel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[17:56] <nuxil> Maxim000, try look in /var/log/kern.log
[17:56] <coreymon77> JoshOvki: meh, im a firm follower of iwconfig
[17:56] <feistel> I have my Kubuntu box up to date
[17:57] <artur__> sigma_1234: it's an old pc. i tried to run (live cd mode) the xubuntu, ubuntu and so on, and the serial mouse didn't work.
[17:57] <Maxim000> this is fschk errors...
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: There is a conflict between flash and qt or something of the sort
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: what I did was downgrade my flash
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: no noticeable effects at the moment. ;)
[17:57] <feistel> Strangelet, yes, how I can downgrade ?
[17:57] <Maxim000> i need bootlog
[17:57] <Strangelet> feistel: I will provide you with a link, please wait. :)
[17:57] <JoshOvki> coreymon77: im a firm beliver in clicking stuff. apart from updates and installing packages. i always do them in command line for some reason
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Strangelet, on dapper drake ?
[17:58] <Strangelet> BluesKaj: Excuse me?
[17:58] <Strangelet> feistel: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266&sliceId=1
[17:58] <acee1234>  what is the proper driver setup for an ati x1400 with compiz ive reformatted 3 times this month by suggestion of /ubuntu and /compiz-fusion fglrx messes up video playback and freezes the computer at logoff
[17:58] <Strangelet> feistel: Download Flash Player 9
[17:58] <sigma_1234> artur_: well if you won't lose any data just install xubuntu and see if the mouse works
[17:58] <daphex> just a question, it's possible to desactive PowerMizer on nv8600GT @ 8.04 ?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> Strangelet, feistel is on dapper
[17:59] <Strangelet> BluesKaj: Oh! i THINK it should be fine
[17:59] <nuxil> Maxim000, if its halts on boot up and its a fsck error on / it wount write a log as it has no disk to write to.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> ok, let's hope so
[18:00] <Strangelet> feistel: Unfortunately, I must go soon, if you need help installing, just ask anyone here
[18:00] <nuxil> Maxim000, run fsck manualy
[18:00] <Maxim000> errors on vfat partitions
[18:00] <nuxil> dude. linux wount repair a vfat disk
[18:00] <Maxim000> I just want 2 log my boot... :'(
[18:00] <eviljames> I must be going crazy here, but I can't open port 6000 under kubuntu?  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc no longer has the -nolisten tcp option, xhost + (no access control) was set.. Anybody remember which step I missed?
[18:00] <feistel> Strangelet, ok thanks!
[18:01] <Maxim000> nuxil, I know
[18:03] <nuxil> Maxim000, no info in any of this files? /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
[18:03] <Maxim000> no
[18:03] <nuxil> strange
[18:04] <BluesKaj> feistel, in the terminal : cd  ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[18:06] <nuxil> Maxim000, comment out the disk in /etc/fstab and mount it manualy on next boot up
[18:06] <nuxil> then cp the error or pipe mount output to a file
[18:07] <Maxim000> fsck runs when mount?
[18:07] <Maxim000> manually
[18:07] <BluesKaj> feistel, better still, check out this site : http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[18:07] <Maxim000> So, I can't log my boot? 4 future
[18:10] <nuxil> run fsck.vfat on it. fsck is for linux filesystem unless you spesify the filesystem by -t vfat
[18:17] <Maxim000> hm... There are no bootlogd in /bin, /sbin. lol
[18:17] <nuxil> ?
[18:19] <nuxil> its /etc/init.d/bootlogd and its a script
[18:19] <Maxim000>  /etc/init.d/bootlogd script has strings PATH=/sbin:/bin DAEMON=/sbin/bootlogd
[18:21] <brewmaster> what dev packages do i have to install to have glib/gprintf.h, gdk/gdkx.h, gtk/gtk.h, dbus/dbus-glib.h, respectively?
[18:21] <brewmaster> I'm trying to compile kmplayer 0.10
[18:21] <brewmaster> ./configure gives no errors, yet I get errors for all those files, sigh
[18:23] <eviljames> I must be going crazy here, but I can't open port 6000 under kubuntu?  /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc no longer has the -nolisten tcp option, xhost + (no access control) was set.. Anybody remember which step I missed?
[18:26] <JoshOvki> who here runs a AV and a software firewall?
[18:27] <jussi01> dont we all run a sw firewall?
[18:27] <nuxil> iptables
[18:27] <tudor_> hello peoples
[18:27] <nuxil> hello you
[18:27] <tudor_> ugly peoples
[18:27] <tudor_> who use linux
[18:27] <nuxil> lol
[18:27] <Maxim000> :)
[18:27] <tudor_> i actually adminre u guys
[18:27] <tudor_> jow do you manage
[18:28] <tudor_> i mean, it;s soooo hard
[18:28] <nuxil> nah
[18:28] <JoshOvki> whats sooooo hard?:S
[18:28] <tudor_> oh well, i'm a novice
[18:28] <tudor_> it seems pretty hard to me
[18:28] <jussi01> tudor_: not hard, just different
[18:29] <JoshOvki> i remember finding out about  apt-search  when i was using debian (before *ubuntu) was release, and i was like :O how cool
[18:29] <Maxim000> is anybody have /sbin/bootlogd?
[18:29] <nuxil> tudor_,  i can understand its hard for you. comming from a point and click enviorment ;p "M$"
[18:29] <nuxil> er
[18:29] <nuxil> Maxim000, No.
[18:30] <nuxil> look at the script
[18:30] <JoshOvki> Maxim000: no here aswell
[18:30] <nuxil> debug it
[18:30] <nuxil> and you see
[18:31] <nuxil> it wount log anything'
[18:31] <Maxim000> bootlogd is a program. And it's missing on my system
[18:32] <daphex> just a question, it's possible to desactive PowerMizer on nv8600GT @ 8.04 ?
[18:33] <daphex> desactivate oups sorry
[18:33] <nuxil> Maxim000, non have it. unless they compiled it from source or are using some pak from other distro
[18:34] <JoshOvki> 2 mins till hardy is downloaded:D
[18:34] <Maxim000> The program 'bootlogd' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:34] <Maxim000> sudo apt-get install sysvinit
[18:34] <JoshOvki> ...
[18:34] <JoshOvki> Maxim000 doesnt that tell you all you need?
[18:34] <JoshOvki> or am i missing something
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> I don't think you want sysvinit
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> that can screw up a TON of stuff
[18:37] <Maxim000> yes
[18:41] <JoshOvki> having konverstaion open while upgrading from gutsy to hardy shouldnt mess anything up should it?
[18:42] <Maxim000> :)
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: noope
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: maybe it'll enable to get out the last dying message from a sick computer ;)
[18:46] <JoshOvki> good :)
[18:46] <JoshOvki> lol, wouldnt surprise me
[18:51] <swatto> whats the shortcut key to bring up terminal please?
[18:53] <nuxil> alt tab ? or alt F2 and type konsole
[18:56] <MaskOfSanity> hiho
[18:57] <MaskOfSanity> whats a good tool to make a image file from a graces cd
[18:58] <nuxil> whats a graces cd ?
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> grazed cd
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> or clawed
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> uhh whats that?
[18:58] <MaskOfSanity> zerkratzt?
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> you mean scratched?
[18:58] <nuxil> ?
[18:59] <nuxil> k3b ?
[18:59] <nuxil> !k3b
[18:59] <MaskOfSanity> OK
[18:59] <MaskOfSanity> i will try
[19:00] <nuxil> err,, no sorry,, k3b is a burning prog..
[19:00] <nuxil> i misunderstood
[19:00] <nuxil> by image file you mean iso ?
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> um
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> k3b should do an iso
[19:01] <MaskOfSanity> yeah i mean an iso
[19:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> k3b will do it :)
[19:01] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:01] <nuxil> Daisuke_Ido, yea it should be able to do that
[19:01] <voyager_> hi  i need a program similar to gimp please
[19:02] <nuxil> whats wrong with gimp
[19:02] <voyager_> i cant install
[19:02] <nuxil> why not
[19:02] <JoshOvki> i was about to say what about gimp? :P
[19:02] <voyager_> i dont know    (the archiv has broken)
[19:03] <MaskOfSanity> whats the error code 16 in k3b
[19:03] <JoshOvki> is there a hardy kubuntu channel or is it stick around here?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> you can still make an image file with k3b by using the copy cd option and choosing "only create image" , then on the image tab choose the folder that you want to write the file to.
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: #ubuntu+1
[19:04] <jhutchins> !hardy | JoshOvki
[19:04] <ubotu> JoshOvki: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:04] <voyager_> one name of  the program similar to gimp please
[19:04] <voyager_> quickly
[19:05] <JoshOvki> nosrednaekim jhutchins :  thats for ubuntu tho, not kubuntu
[19:05] <Maxim000__> photoshop? :))
[19:05] <voyager_> to linux??
[19:05] <voyager_> jejeç
[19:05] <Maxim000__> wine?
[19:05] <nuxil> JoshOvki, they both uses the same base system
[19:05] <JoshOvki> alright
[19:05] <GaryR> how burn I the CD right? (I burn it in Nero as Data-CD and don't unpackes the iso file and I can't ship the cd, because I need the alternate cd)
[19:05] <voyager_> only for linux please i dont know other programs
[19:06] <nuxil> !k3b
[19:06] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:06] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ?
[19:06] <amews_aj> or are there other differences?
, there no
[19:06] <Maxim000__> picasa, maybe
[19:06] <voyager_> ok thanks
[19:08] <voyager_> thanks Maxim000__
[19:08] <GaryR> mmm I don't need a burning program for kubuntu. I need advice to burn the cd, to install kubuntu^^'
[19:09] <Gary> win 7
[19:10] <zimon> GaryR: nero has a option for burning an iso to disc
[19:12] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ??
[19:12] <GaryR> @zimon: I try this already, but the CD don't boot at startup.... (the live cd runs, but freezed by press on starting and install)
[19:13] <zimon> GaryR: have you checked the iso?
[19:14] <nuxil> amews_aj, yes
[19:14] <amews_aj> nuxil: Are they both stable, and can you install the same on it ?
[19:14] <nuxil> yes
[19:14] <amews_aj> k
[19:14] <GaryR> no, how big should the file size be? By me it is 697mb
[19:15] <nuxil> amews_aj,  you can even have gnome and kde on same system
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Garythat's about right, but...
[19:15] <amews_aj> nuxil: I read that some had trouble installing kde on ubuntu
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> !md5 | GaryR
[19:15] <ubotu> GaryR: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:15] <GaryR> thx
[19:15] <nuxil> amews_aj, there should not be any problems
[19:15] <amews_aj> nuxil: k
[19:16] <nuxil> but
[19:16] <nuxil> if you want kde you dl kubuntu not ubuntu
[19:16] <nuxil> saves you for a download after install.
[19:16] <amews_aj> Btw, does beryl works in the latest version of vmware for win ?
[19:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> nuxil: it works both ways, especially if you might want gnome at some point
[19:17] <brewmaster> anyone know how to view videos from nba.com with konqueror?
[19:17] <eviljames> amews_aj: I didn't think beryl/compiz worked at all under vmware
[19:17] <nuxil> Daisuke_Ido, i know that
[19:17] <brewmaster> I can watch them fine with FF (either totem-mozilla or with media player connectivity plugin)
[19:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> nuxil: sorry, that should have been pointed at amews_aj :)
[19:17] <nuxil> :)
[19:18] <amews_aj> eviljames: But isn't there experimental 3d acc. in the latest vmware?
[19:18] <eviljames> amews_aj: Sounds like I need to update my vmware..
[19:19] <amews_aj> eviljames: I think it is only for the mac edition :(
[19:19] <eviljames> I did see a video of linux under vmware on macos I think with 3d acceleration
[19:19] <amews_aj> vmware fusion
[19:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm waiting for virtualbox to get 3d working...  with hardware virtualization, there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't work
[19:21] <eviljames> hrmm.. Why won't X listen on port 6000?
[19:25] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, I for some reason cannot play back DVD's even tho I've got all the restricted extras
[19:25] <RytmenPinnen> on kubuntu 7.10
[19:27] <neothecat> i just installed the latest kde4 on kubuntu.  has anyone had problems with:  changing wallpapers, getting blank screen and with trying to change tab names in konsole?
[19:33] <RytmenPinnen> nm
[19:33] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen, install libdvdcss2
[19:34] <RytmenPinnen> yes, I got it :P I thought I allready had it installed but no no.. :)
[19:34] <jhutchins> JoshOvki: #ubuntu+1 is for both.
[19:34] <jhutchins> JoshOvki: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde desktop instead of gnome; the main project is ubuntu.
[19:35] <Y-Town> What do most of you prefer thunderbird or evolution?
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Yech.
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: kmail
[19:35] <Y-Town> jhutchinsI missed one  :o)
[19:35] <jhutchins> Y-Town: evolution is a mess.
[19:36] <jhutchins> I'd run pine in console before I loaded that bloat.
[19:36] <Y-Town> jhutchins whats a mess about it? does it crash alot or something?
[19:36] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Do you have it installed?
[19:36] <Y-Town> jhutchinsyea... but I havent reaaly used email much yet
[19:38] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Ok, do a clean boot without starting it.  Look at the processes running.  Then start it, and look at all the new garbage.  Then quit it - still lots of garbage.  Log out - garbage still there!
[19:38] <Y-Town> jhutchins: I have it installed nut have not played with any emial much on linux... It does work to send/receive but thats really all I know
[19:39] <Y-Town> jhutchins: Ahhhhh
[19:39] <jhutchins> Y-Town: Really, what matters to you is how well it meets your needs, but I like kmail better.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Y-Town: I'm generally more of a kde than gnome person.
[19:40] <Y-Town> jhutchins: I have not even looked at kmail to be honest in a long time.
[19:44] <warren_> hi
[19:44] <Y-Town> jhutchins:  Thanks for the input..  I am looking into it now
[19:44] <warren_> gdebi-kde can't install any deb, someone has the same problem?
[19:44] <jussi01> warren_: does it give you an error?
[19:44] <warren_> it shuts down quietly
[19:44] <jussi01> warren_: are you familiar with the command line at all?
[19:45] <warren_> yeah
[19:45] <warren_> but i don't like to install debs in commandline :)
[19:45] <jussi01> warren_: could you try installing a deb with: sudo dpkg -i debname
[19:45] <warren_> i did it like that
[19:45] <jussi01> warren_: I want to see the output and an error if it thorows one
[19:46] <warren_> it's strange
[19:46] <jhutchins> !info sonatat
[19:46] <jhutchins> !info sonata
[19:46] <jussi01> warren_: and it installed?
[19:46] <warren_> because when you launch it by double licking on a deb when installing it shuts down
[19:46] <jussi01> jhutchins: bot is laggy/dead
[19:46] <warren_> when you launch the installation with gdebi-kde in commandline you can seee the install windows but it doesnt do anything
[19:46] <warren_> OSError: [Errno 12] Ne peut allouer de la mémoire
[19:46] <warren_> it is in french
[19:47] <jussi01> what does that mean in english?
[19:47] <warren_> Cannot allocate memory
[19:47] <engin> slm
[19:47] <jussi01> hrm, have you tried purging and reinstalling gdebi-kde?
[19:47] <warren_> yeah
[19:47] <jussi01> engin: ??
[19:48] <engin> araniza yeni katildim. yeniyim.. simdilik bir sorum olacak. en iyi msn programi. linux icin.
[19:48] <jussi01> warren_: Im not sure how to fix that one, save a reinstall, I dont just recomend tthem at a drop of a hat. Please file a bug about it.
[19:48] <warren_> So when launching gdebi-kde graphically it shuts down, when launching it in commandline not, it doesn't install (0%) with this error
[19:49] <jussi01> engin: what language is that?
[19:49] <warren_> there is already a report
[19:49] <jussi01> !bug > warren_
[19:49] <warren_> but nobody cares
[19:49] <engin> turkish
[19:49] <jussi01> !tr
[19:49] <engin> yes
[19:49] <jussi01> gah, bot dead
[19:49] <warren_> ^^
[19:49] <jussi01> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde
[19:49] <engin> cok cok tsk ler
[19:50] <jussi01> warren_: whats the bug number?
[19:50] <warren_> euh
[19:50] <warren_> w8 :)
[19:51] <warren_> my internet is slow :p
[19:54] <ubotu> Package sonatat does not exist in gutsy
[19:54] <ubotu> sonata (source: sonata): GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1 (gutsy), package size 217 kB, installed size 844 kB
[19:54] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[19:55] <warren_> well there's not really a bug like my issue
[19:55] <warren_> ow yes here:
[19:56] <warren_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/156031
[19:56] <life> Hey guys
[19:56] <jussi01> hi
[19:57] <life> I got a quick problem for you guys... kubuntu boots normally but when I try to use knetworkmanager to select a point to connect to (and enter hex wep), it freezes the entire system
[19:57] <life> freezes near 28% or so at "configuring device"
[19:57] <JoshOvki> life: are you using ndiswrapper?
[19:58] <life> JoshOvki: yep.
[19:58] <life> JoshOvki: the device is recognized alright but just freezes when associating I guess
[19:59] <JoshOvki> life: i had a simular problem a while ago with it. I belive it turned out to be that the MAC address was set to 00:00:00:00  i found a patched madwifi what my wifi
[19:59] <ZeH> on a ubuntu forum they say i should use "sudo ndiswrapper ....." but that doesnt exist in kubuntu whats the right one ?
[20:00] <life> JoshOvki: Hmmm, what's strange is it was working fine just the other day.
[20:00] <JoshOvki> life: that is odd then. i know very little about ndiswrapper, i got away from it as soon as i could. i had major problems with my Athros card
[20:01] <life> JoshOvki: Hmmm, does this madwifi work well?
[20:01] <JoshOvki> life: yes extremaly well, depending if your card is supported
[20:01] <kimmo_77> hey
[20:02] <jussi01> hei kimmo_77
[20:02] <JoshOvki> life: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[20:02] <life> JoshOvki: Ah. I think I have an Atheros chipset
[20:02] <kimmo_77> no moro...mistäs löytyy kanava jossa voi fiksummat jeesaa?
[20:02] <jussi01> !en  | kimmo_77
[20:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en   - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:03] <JoshOvki> life: What chipset?
[20:03] <jussi01> kimmo_77: english only in here
[20:03] <JoshOvki> (as in version)
[20:03] <kimmo_77> sorry
[20:03] <jussi01> kimmo_77: #kubuntu-fi if youd like finnish :)
[20:03] <life> JoshOvki: Not too sure. Is there some way to check?
[20:03] <kimmo_77> So is there any channel where I could get help for Linux related problems?
[20:03] <kimmo_77> Ok, thanks Jussi
[20:04] <jussi01> kimmo_77: here, or -fi depending on lnaguage :)
[20:04] <JoshOvki> life: Ummmm probly, im not sure how thoough
[20:04] <jussi01> lspci should give you the revision
[20:04] <life> Oooh, madwifi doesn't support USB cards, which is what I have :
[20:04] <life> :/
[20:04] <JoshOvki> darn
[20:05] <jussi01> oh :(
[20:05] <kimmo_77> nice. Quick question, anyone can answer. How I can get Compiz-Fusion to works on HP nx6126 laptop?
[20:05] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[20:06] <jussi01> kimmo_77: which graphics card ?
[20:06] <jussi01> kimmo_77: you may also want to check out #compiz-fusion its more specialized for that :)
[20:06] <kimmo_77> ATI radeon 200M
[20:07] <jussi01> kimmo_77: yeah, go ask in #compiz-fusion ;)
[20:07] <kimmo_77> Ok, dam this is quite hard. I thinking and I will chance from win to Linux, but that should be up and running till monday when I get back to work :)
[20:07] <kimmo_77> thanks I try there
[20:11] <babeck> Does anyone know how to restart plasma?  I've noticed that with 4.0.2 when I change wallpaper my deskop becomes white.
[20:11] <JoshOvki> run   sudo kill plasma && plasma
[20:12] <JoshOvki> bebeck, there is a bit about it
[20:12] <selckin> pkill maybe, but not kill
[20:12] <JoshOvki> babeck: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/198937
[20:13] <JoshOvki> sorry    killall plasma && plasma
[20:14] <majnoon> is there a chan for kde4 ??
[20:15] <JoshOvki> #kubuntu-kde4
[20:15] <babeck> thanks, this seems to work: pkill plasma && plasma
[20:17] <Regital> hey... could i get some help
[20:17] <Regital> i need to set up a wireless internet on my kubuntu gutsy
[20:17] <Regital> my wireless card is RaLink RT2500
[20:25] <Regital> anyone?
[20:26] <jussi01> Regital: those ralinks are a pain in the rear, but they do work most of the time.
[20:26] <jussi01> !wireless
[20:27] <Regital> yeah?
[20:27] <Regital> no osaakko auttaa asiassa?
[20:28] <jussi01> english, please Regital :)
[20:28] <JoTrocken> hi, I can´t change system language anymore - after installing iceweasel from debian sources the original "german" was deleted. There is still a drop-down menu with the right entry, but I neighter can select "German" nor delete "English (US)"
[20:28] <jussi01> if you want to chat in finnish, please use #kubuntu-fi
[20:29] <jussi01> JoTrocken: you may get more help in #kubuntu-de for that issue
[20:30] <JoTrocken> already tried, but anybody knows about it
[20:34] <Regital> jussi01
[20:34] <Regital> ok so we can talk here then
[20:35] <jussi01> yes..
[20:35] <Regital> ok
[20:35] <Regital> yeah... so i told you my problem, can you help?
[20:36] <jussi01> Regital: have a look here: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:36] <jussi01> I need to take the dog out
[20:37] <Regital> ok
[20:38] <administrateur> #ubuntu-de
[20:41] <davidm_> Howto update 6.06 to 7.10 via cli
[20:42] <davidm_> !upgrade
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[20:44] <jussi01> ding dong the bot is ultra lagged...
[20:45] <Arwen> argh, WINE compilation is EPIC SLOWNESS.
[20:45] <Arwen> I just wish "make" came with a progress bar..
[20:47] <SSJ_GZ> Arwen: Ask the wine devs to switch to CMake ;)
[20:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:49] <coreymon77> oh
[20:49] <coreymon77> whos having the wifi issues?
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> Regital:
[20:50] <Regital> yes
[20:50] <ZeH> puh
[20:50] <Regital> coreymon77: why? can you help
[20:51] <Regital> cause i'm tired of going through all those websites
[20:51] <coreymon77> im usually good at wifi
[20:51] <coreymon77> Regital: ill do my best
[20:51] <Regital> ok
[20:51] <coreymon77> Regital: whats the mater
[20:52] <Regital> i have kubuntu gutsy, and my wifi card is ralink RT2500
[20:52] <coreymon77> hey!
[20:52] <Regital> i don't know how to get it to work
[20:52] <coreymon77> i used to have that card
[20:52] <coreymon77> very easy
[20:52] <Regital> really?
[20:52] <coreymon77> yup
[20:52] <coreymon77> single command should do it
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: is your network encrypted
[20:53] <Regital> indeed it is
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: wep?
[20:53] <Regital> umm... i'm pretty sure yeah
[20:53] <coreymon77> Regital: is it a jumble of letters and numbers or is it a passphrase
[20:53] <Regital> passphrase
[20:54] <coreymon77> Regital: as in a word?
[20:54] <Regital> yeah
[20:54] <Regital> well... name and 2 numbers
[20:54] <coreymon77> Regital: i think that is wpa, if im not mistaken
[20:54] <Regital> ok
[20:54] <jussi01> !overshare
[20:54] <ubotu> Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...
[20:54] <coreymon77> jussi01: am i right?
[20:54] <jussi01> coreymon77: no. you can have wep passphrase
[20:55] <coreymon77> oh
[20:55] <coreymon77> so lets try wep first
[20:55] <life> Is there some way to start kwallet manually?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> life: kwalletmanager is what tab gives me
[20:55] <Regital> wep it is then
[20:55] <ZeH> going from windows to linux wasnt the easiest thing :P
[20:55] <life> nosrednaekim: Ah, so run kwalletmanager?
[20:55] <coreymon77> Regital: type iwconfig into console and pastebin the results for me okay?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> yp
[20:55] <life> nosrednaekim, thanks!
[20:56] <Regital> well im on my laptop right now and my linux is on my desktop
[20:56] <coreymon77> Regital: do you have access to the desktop?
[20:56] <coreymon77> Regital: does it have internet at all?
[20:56] <Regital> no
[20:56] <Regital> the desktop doesn't have internet
[20:57] <Regital> i prolly should've told that earlier
[20:57] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, well, type iwconfig into console and tell me if ra0, ra1 etc is listed
[20:57] <Regital> no ra's at all
[20:57] <coreymon77> okay, lets assume that its ra0 then
[20:58] <Regital> ok
[20:59] <Regital> what's next?
[20:59] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, type this into console on the desktop
[20:59] <jmichaelx> ok, i have often used kaffeine to play movies, and i often watch movies that are subtitled. in the past kaffeine has asked me to select which subtitles to use, and all went well. now it askes me to select, and then tells me it can't find the subtitles. any suggestions?
[20:59] <coreymon77> Regital: sudo iwconfig ra0 essid [youressid] key [wepkey]
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: maybe there aren't any?
[21:00] <jmichaelx> this was in KDE 3.5.8, so i upgraded to 3.5.9, but the problem remains.
[21:00] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : i think i just mentioned that they had always played fine. they are there.
[21:00] <jmichaelx> if they weren't there, it would not give me the list to selct from to begin with
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: but are you sure this particular movie has subtitles?
[21:00] <jmichaelx> select*
[21:01] <Regital> coreymon77: it says SET failed on device ra0 ; No such device
[21:01] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : yes, it has subtitles. they are there in plain site. i can open them in kate.
[21:01] <coreymon77> hmm
[21:01] <coreymon77> Regital: try this, lscpi
[21:01] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : like i said, it worked fine the last time i watched it
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: weird... what happens when you right lick on the movie while its playing at open subtitles that way?
[21:01] <coreymon77> Regital: tell me if your ralink card appears anywhere
[21:02] <Regital> it does
[21:02] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : it does not let me do that
[21:02] <coreymon77> okay
[21:02] <coreymon77> lets figure something out, open up system prefs
[21:02] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : by the way, the movie plays fine with the subtitles in mplayer, but not in kaffeine
[21:03] <coreymon77> Regital: and click on network settings
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: oh! hrm
[21:03] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : my guess that this is just one more kubuntu gutsy bug that has cropped up
[21:03] <jmichaelx> hrm?
[21:03] <Regital> coreymon: where is that?
[21:03] <coreymon77> Regital: where is what
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: I would suppose so ^_^
[21:04] <jmichaelx> for me gutsy has just been a struggle with one bug after another
[21:04] <khussein> Is there a way to enable internal mic in Dell D830?
[21:04] <jmichaelx> i have been a big k/ubuntu fan, but i finally switched my desktop to fedora 8, but not this laptop
[21:04] <coreymon77> Regital: system prefs or network settings
[21:04] <jmichaelx> sigh
[21:04] <Regital> coreymon77: heh.... system pref
[21:04] <Regital> i hate being a noob
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: kmenu, system pregerences
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: preferences*
[21:05] <coreymon77> Regital: i mean, system settings
[21:05] <Regital> ok
[21:05] <Regital> coreymon77: ok im in network settings
[21:06] <jmichaelx> by the way, what is the deal with the new kaffeine in the repos,  without a corresponding upgrade for kaffeine-xine?
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: is there a card listed there
[21:06] <Regital> yeah
[21:06] <Regital> 2
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: what are they
[21:06] <jmichaelx> is this a medibuntu issue, or a canonical issue?
[21:06] <Regital> eth0 and wlan0
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: is that the cause?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: no idea,though I did hear of it
[21:06] <coreymon77> Regital: oh, its wlan0 now
[21:07] <coreymon77> thats odd
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: okay then
[21:07] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : no, it isn't. i didn't upgrade to the new kaffeine
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: try this one
[21:07] <jmichaelx> i have no idea why the newer kaffeine is even there. it's ridiculous.
[21:07] <coreymon77> Regital: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid [youressid] key [wepkey]
[21:09] <Regital> coreymon77: it says Error for wireless request "Set Encode"
[21:09] <jmichaelx> lol, i just upgraded to KDE 3.5.9 to see if it would fix this kaffeine problem, and now my bash history has been wiped
[21:09] <jmichaelx> good grief
[21:09] <Regital> Invalid argument "password"
[21:09] <Regital> webkey w/e
[21:10] <coreymon77> Regital: oy
[21:10] <coreymon77> Regital: tou do know, that you have to replace [youressid] with your network name and [wepkey] with your wireless password
[21:10] <jmichaelx> Regital: make sure you put quotation marks around your essid in that command coreymon77gave you
[21:10] <coreymon77> without the []'s
[21:10] <Regital> yeah
[21:10] <Regital> i know
[21:11] <coreymon77> Regital: you know what, screw this, lets do it graphically
[21:11] <Regital> lol ok
[21:11] <coreymon77> Regital: go back to network settings
[21:11] <Regital> ok
[21:12] <coreymon77> Regital: look at the bottom of the window, do you see an administrator mode button, click on that button and then enter your password
[21:12] <Regital> done
[21:13] <coreymon77> Regital: click on wlan0 and press configure
[21:13] <Regital> done
[21:13] <coreymon77> Regital: first things first, do you want to use dhcp or do you want a static ip
[21:14] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i am not trying to bud in, but did you guys compile the serialmonkey ralink drivers and blacklist the ubuntu drivers?
[21:14] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is a gutsy system, should that already be done
[21:14] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: shouldnt*
[21:15] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: that was for feisty
[21:15] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: as far as i know the gutsy ralink drivers workk very poorly for most people
[21:15] <jmichaelx> no, feisty worled fine. look at the forums.
[21:15] <jmichaelx> worked*
[21:15] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: im gonna give this a shot, then ill do that
[21:15] <jmichaelx> i had no issues with rt2500 infeisty on 2 different machines. the gutsy ralink drivers have been useless for me.
[21:16] <coreymon77> Regital: so, do you want automatic dhcp or a static ip?
[21:16] <Regital> ok... =p either dhcp or static goes for me, unless there's major down sides on either one
[21:16] <coreymon77> Regital: aka, do you plan on forwarding any ports?
[21:16] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: ok, i will leave you alone then. if nothing else works, i would defintely suggest the serialmonekey drivers. he'll be far happier.
[21:16] <Regital> lol forwarding any ports?
[21:17] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: as i said, thanks for the suggestion, let me just try this, then ill give your thing a shot
[21:17] <jmichaelx> np, wish you both luck
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: you have no clue what im talking about right?
[21:17] <Regital> about forwarding ports?
[21:17] <Regital> no
[21:17] <Regital> so i don't think i will then eh?
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: okay then, lets stick with dhcp
[21:17] <Regital> ok
[21:17] <coreymon77> Regital: so, in the configure window, choose automatic
[21:18] <Regital> ok
[21:18] <eviljames> So I have set xorg to start without the -nolisten tcp option, and ran xhost + for no access control, but X does not listen on port 6000... what gives?
[21:18] <Nakkel> coreymon77: Regital is a bit computer illiterate at the moment. Moving from Windows and like. Also I once allready talked him through how to config his card manually, didnt help then.
[21:18] <coreymon77> Nakkel: thanks for the tip
[21:18] <coreymon77> Regital: am i going too quickly for you
[21:18] <Regital> oh no
[21:19] <coreymon77> Regital: okay, click the box that says activate when the computer starts so that there is a x in it
[21:19] <Regital> o
[21:19] <Regital> k
[21:20] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i am assuming, since his key is a passphrase, that if it is wep, it is ascii right?
[21:20] <coreymon77> Nakkel: you can answer that too
[21:20] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i think so.
[21:20] <coreymon77> okay then
[21:21] <coreymon77> Regital: so, in the lower section of the configure window, next to essid, type your network name and next to wep key, type your passphrase
[21:21] <Regital> done
[21:21] <jmichaelx> Nakkel: i have had a miserable time in gutsy with anything wireless. the only way i have been able to use rt2500 based cards has been to compile the serialmonkey drivers, and then either use the commandline or RutilT to connect.
[21:21] <khussein> Can someone help me enable USB in VirtualBox?
[21:22] <jmichaelx> using rt2500, you need to remove network manager.
[21:22] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: thats why when my rt2500 died, i made sure i got a new card that works well, i have an atheros card now, it works pergectly
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> khussein: you need the non-opensource version you know.
[21:22] <Regital> coreymon77: so i leave it as ASCII?
[21:22] <coreymon77> Regital: choose ascii as the key type
[21:23] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: yeah, atheros usually works in most distros, if it is the right atheros. the other option is intel.
[21:23] <khussein> nosrednaekim: Isn't this the version that I can get through aptitude?
[21:23] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is the perfect atheros, its also a better card
[21:23] <Regital> done
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> khussein: not unless you added the virtualbox repository
[21:23] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: the card is the Airlink101 AWLH4030 wireless g card, its the best card ive ever had
[21:23] <coreymon77> Regital: now click okay
[21:23] <jmichaelx> gutsy was a dramatic step backwards in regards to wireless, not to mentionseveral other ways
[21:23] <Regital> done
[21:24] <khussein> Ahuh .. is this the only way?
[21:24] <khussein> I mean to enable the USB?
[21:24] <coreymon77> Regital: now, go to routes
[21:24] <jmichaelx> corey, i have 2 atheros PCMCIA cards, and they are nice. unfortunately, my laptop has no PCMCIA port
[21:25] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: this is a pci card
[21:25] <Regital> coreymon77: where would that be? =p
[21:25] <coreymon77> Regital: up at the top of the window, there is a tap that says routes on it
[21:25] <Regital> the routes
[21:25] <Regital> oh
[21:25] <coreymon77> Regital: are you still in network settings?
[21:25] <Regital> yeah
[21:26] <coreymon77> Regital: are you on the routes tab
[21:26] <Regital> coreymon77 indeed
[21:26] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: is Regital's card PCI or mini-PCI... or something else?
[21:26] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: the rt2500 is a pci card
[21:27] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: he is on a desktop
[21:27] <coreymon77> Regital: now, on the right side, there is a pulldown menu next to device, click on that and choose wlan0
[21:27] <Regital> done
[21:28] <jmichaelx> he may have luck then. i have an ancient AMD K6-2 desktop with an rt2500 PCI card that is working fine. the rt2500based mini-PCI would never work well in gutsy in my laptop.
[21:28] <coreymon77> Regital: in ip address, put the ip address of your router
[21:28] <coreymon77> Regital: im assuming you know what that is (its usually 192.168.1.1)
[21:28] <Regital> how do i find the ip address
[21:28] <Regital> ok
[21:28] <coreymon77> try this
[21:28] <coreymon77> is your laptop connected to the same router
[21:29] <Regital> wirelessly yes
[21:29] <coreymon77> Regital: what os is your laptop running?
[21:29] <Regital> windows
[21:30] <coreymon77> okay, click on the wifi icon in the windows taskbar
[21:30] <coreymon77> Regital: it should bring you into the little wifi status window
[21:31] <coreymon77> Regital: right?
[21:31] <Regital> hold on a sec
[21:32] <Nakkel> coreymon77: Just make him punch "ipconfig /all" on Windows CLI. ;)
[21:32] <coreymon77> Regital: it should bring up the wireless connection status window
[21:32] <coreymon77> Nakkel: this works too
[21:32] <coreymon77> Regital: you there?
[21:32] <jmichaelx> i really wish i could get subtitles to work in kaffeine again, lol. this is so ridiculous. i just copied the file with the movie over to my fedora box, and it works fine.
[21:33] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i assure you, most people dont have as many problem as you do, you just seem to have some bad luck
[21:34] <coreymon77> Regital: so, did you open the window on your windows laptop
[21:35] <coreymon77> seems we've lost him
[21:36] <ZeH> does cedega work with kubuntu amd64 ?
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: he probably hit the wrong thing in there ;)
[21:36] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: you have obviously not taken a peak at the forums.
[21:37] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: try looking at the threads regarding rt2500 in the forums...
[21:37] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i used to have an rt2500, i have spent hours and hours on that card, so i know what im doing with it
[21:38] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: let me try what i am trying, then ill give your suggestion a shot
[21:38] <gilles> I see the other pc on my network but I don't view the share folders. What can I do ?
[21:39] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i was not questioning that, i was only pointing out that many, many people have had a number of serious issues with gutsy
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[21:39] <gilles> yes
[21:39] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: i know, many many people, but not all, i dont want to get any more complicated then i have to for him
[21:39] <jmichaelx> but it is often like that with computers and OS's
[21:40] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: so im trying it the easier way, then, if that doesnt work, we will go through compiling the other driver
[21:41] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: he also doesnt have any internet on his desktop, so downloading and compiling a new driver would prove to be a little difficult
[21:41] <coreymon77> Regital: are you still there?
[21:41] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i understand, with your experience with that chipset, you'll get his going with time.
[21:41] <coreymon77> thanks
[21:42] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:42] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: before i got my atheros card, i used to spend hours, sometimes days (back with the broadcom chips) getting wireless working
[21:42] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: :P
[21:42] <jmichaelx> i should have taken my own advice about the forums.. seems a lot of people have the same issues with subtitles right now. the last libxineupdate broke subtitles.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: hehe :)
[21:43] <fat-head> ive installed kubuntu and when trying to update kubuntu with adept manager it downloads the files but when it installs them it gets to 53% of the files but then it crashes and give an error that some files might be corrupt and have caused a break. this has happened 2 times i had to wash my hard drive after the first time and then reinstalled kubuntu again but now i have the same problem
[21:43] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i have been through the same stuff. i always had luck getting broadcom going, and i thought that feisty was the best for wireless that i had seen.
[21:43] <coreymon77> fat-head: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:44] <jmichaelx> i tried to help alocal guy get bcm43xx working the other day at a coffee shp, but could never get it to work. it was the first time i had tried in gutsy.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: try running, from the command line "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:45] <fat-head> *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: doesn't matter... hti enter
[21:45] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: when i had the broadcom chip cards, that was back in the days of ndiswrapper, the days of 5.10 and dapper, and this was a bcmw5050, or something like that
[21:45] <jmichaelx> ok, i have another kaffeine question... i just read where one guy claims that upgrading to  the new kaffeine fixed his subtitle problem... but for me, if i upgrade to the new kaffeine, it removes libxine entireley, and i can play practically nothing
[21:46] <coreymon77> jmichaelx: so let me tell ya, it was a plain in the bloody arse
[21:46] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: lol
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: are you sure you have the latest package lists?
[21:46] <fat-head> does that mean next time i reinstall kubuntu i have to run sudo spkg --configure -a first then use adept ?
[21:46] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: : if i am missing something, i have no idea what it could be
[21:46] <coreymon77> Regital: where did you go?
[21:47] <gilles> I see the other pc on my network but I don't view the share folders. What can I do ?
[21:47] <fat-head> what did " sudo dpkg --configure -a " do ?
[21:48] <fat-head> ?
[21:48] <coreymon77> fat-head: fixed it?
[21:48] <fat-head> no
[21:49] <fat-head> i only managed to install 53% of the files adept downloaded then it crashed
[21:49] <fat-head> now that i refreshed adept the other half havent installed
[21:49] <fat-head> and wont install
[21:50] <fat-head> argh!! and i thought switching from ubuntu to kubuntu would be as easy as everyone told me
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:50] <coreymon77> fat-head: dont use adept, this isnt time for graphical methoids
[21:51] <coreymon77> fat-head: something like this usually requires command line actions
[21:51] <fat-head>  when u first installed kubuntu did u update everything with adept right away ?
[21:51] <fat-head> or did u use apt-get
[21:52] <fat-head> is using apt-get safe? arnt i supposed to use the one given " adept manager "
[21:52] <fat-head> ?
[21:52] <coreymon77> fat-head: adept is apt-get
[21:52] <fat-head> lol
[21:52] <fat-head> k
[21:52] <coreymon77> fat-head: adept just slaps a graphical interface on top
[21:53] <fat-head> so adept is synaptic too ?
[21:53] <coreymon77> fat-head: synaptic does the same thing, it just slaps a graphical interface on top of apt-get
[21:53] <fat-head> kk
[21:53] <fat-head> but its strange i didnt get breakage when i used apt-get or synaptic with gnome ubuntu
[21:54] <coreymon77> fat-head: that has nothing to do with it
[21:55] <coreymon77> fat-head: there is obviously a package that has a bug it in
[21:55] <jmichaelx> hmm, apparently there is no fix at this time for the subtitle problem. people are having otherproblems with kaffeine/xine right now, too
[21:55] <fat-head> thats the problem it just closed and showed the error it didnt let me see
[21:55]  * raid kills bugs
[21:55] <coreymon77> fat-head: the fact that you were using synaptic isnt the issue
[21:55] <coreymon77> cuznt: lol
[21:55] <fat-head> k i understand
[21:56] <fat-head> but how do i find out which file caused the breakage so i can uncheck it next time ?
[21:56] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: you wanna handle this one
[21:56] <Vantskruv> I've never liked Kaffeine, it feels quite buggy
[21:56] <Vantskruv> I tip a go for KPlayer which I like very much
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: sure....
[21:57] <root______> què es esto?
[21:57] <coreymon77> !es | root______
[21:57] <ubotu> root______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:57] <coreymon77> ha! i win!
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: did you run "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> !don'trunansroot
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about don'trunansroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:57] <fat-head> yeh i enabled extra repo's and ran update and upgrade after
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: which extra repos?
[21:58] <fat-head> but the files i downloaded in adept that didnt install it wont recognise them
[21:58] <fat-head> all of them
[21:58] <fat-head> previously i had the default enabled
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> including "unsupported updates:?
[21:58] <fat-head> not previously
[21:58] <fat-head> only now
[21:59] <fat-head> k its finished downloading and installing the unsupported updates lol no problem there but i had a problem with the official updates
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: so everything is ok now?
[22:00] <fat-head> i think im gonna have to wash my hd again and reinstall kubuntu and hope ill be able to install everything with just apt-get and not get any errors
[22:00] <fat-head> nah
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: wait wait.... what ereor is apt-get upgrade giving you?
[22:01] <fat-head> out of the 158 files it said i needed to update before it only managed to install around 70 the rest broke after adept crashing now it wont recognise them
[22:01] <fat-head> not apt-get
[22:01] <fat-head> it was adept which gave me error
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: so apt-get returns no errors?
[22:02] <fat-head> no
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> then everything is fixed.
[22:02] <fat-head> how do i find out what happened with adept
[22:02] <fat-head> ?
[22:03] <fat-head> or if i have broken downloads
[22:03] <dave11> how do you clear the cache in konqueror?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> fat-head: you don't want to know....adpet is just plain buggy:) just use apt-get from now on.
[22:03] <fat-head> lol
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> or synaptic
[22:03] <fat-head> kk thnx man u help cool my hot head i was about to smash this comp to bits
[22:06] <und3va> i could use some help regarding the changing of ttl on ubuntu, anyone ?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> ttl?
[22:07] <und3va> time to live
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> whats that?
[22:09] <dave11> release date?
[22:09] <NickPresta> dave11, for what?
[22:09] <und3va> it is used in the ip header to record the time for a packet on the network
[22:09] <dave11> guess the next ubuntu release
[22:09] <NickPresta> !hardy | dave11
[22:10] <dave11> not me, und asked
[22:10] <und3va> can anyone help me with the ttl?
[22:10] <NickPresta> dave11, ah okay. sorry :)
[22:10] <dave11> lol, np
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> und3va: fraid not.... usually when I don't even know what something is, I don't have a clue how to change/fix it:)
[22:11] <NickPresta> und3va, does ttl have an official support forum or channel? You would probably get better results there
[22:11] <und3va> thanks
[22:26] <khussein> Kubuntu detected my wireless and it was working fine untill I installed VirtualBox. Now the wlan0 isn't detected. Can someone help me fix this problem?
[22:27] <bmk789> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs which is a marvell yukon wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: yukons aren't supported wekk at ALL IIRC
[22:29] <inaety> how can i give permission to k3b to open discs when wrtiting cd's.   after i start burning a cd it gives me an error it has no permssion to open the disc
[22:29] <bmk789> the yukon in my laptop worked without any problems
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> bmk789: might be a differnt revision... in any case, the correct driver is the sky2 drivers, look'em up.
[22:30] <khussein> Kubuntu detected my wireless and it was working fine untill I installed VirtualBox. Now the wlan0 isn't detected. Can someone help me fix this problem?
[22:30] <bmk789> nosrednaekim: ive tried loading the sky2 module at boot, nothing
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> khussein: wlan is probably still around, but the vmware net module is probably blocking it
[22:31] <khussein> nosrednaekim: how can I fix that?
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> khussein: do you need networking for virtulabox?
[22:32] <khussein> Yes
[22:32] <khussein> I installed the not open source one  and the USB works now
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> khussein: ask in #vbox ... they probably know how to fix that
[22:34] <khussein> nosrednaekim: I looked into menu.list (the new one that is added by virtualbox), there are two versions of the kernel. 2.6.24-11-386 and 2.6.24-11-generic. The default now is the 386. When I try the generic the wireless works
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> khussein: that is hardy....
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[22:35] <khussein> Yes, I know
[22:35] <ubotu> dave11: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> dave11? wth?
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> ok... I have to go guys.... good luck
[22:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:37] <khussein> nosrednaekim: thanks for helping
[22:38] <icewaterman> anyone using ati's binary driver with tvtime?
[22:38] <icewaterman> i get this error: xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[22:39] <bobwhoops> hi all, I'm running kubuntu on a pretty slow machine, and some things are ridiculously sluggish. Are there any "low hanging fruit" I can disable to make things speed up?
[22:41] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, you can disable transparency, large bubble tooltips
[22:41] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, how slow is the machine?
[22:42] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: the actual ghz is pretty good (2.8), but it's kinda misleading since the cache is practically non-existant and there's a built-in intel graphics
[22:43] <moope1> hullo, ubuntu is taking ages to load on boot. It seems to spend a long time looking for resume images. Any one know how to fix?
[22:43] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, still, it should be fine for the most part. Perhaps it is a RAM problem?
[22:43] <moope1> I mean kubuntu....
[22:43] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: no problems on my previous distro
[22:44] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, hmm. Strange.
[22:44] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: where do I disable transperancy?
[22:46] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, K Menu > System Settings > Window Behavior > Translucency. Similarly, you can try disabling GUI effects (System Settings > Appearance > Style > Effects)
[22:47] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: translucency was disabled by default, and I've already turned off the GUI effects. No change
[22:47] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, are there any applications specifically or does KDE and the whole system feel sluggish?
[22:47] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: it's only for some things though. mostly it runs snappy, but things like adept are ridiculously slow
[22:47] <NickPresta> moope1, perhaps this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422875
[22:49] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, Adept runs snappy for me (less than 3 seconds to start up) see if something like 'sudo apt-get install` takes a long time to run.
[22:50] <bobwhoops> NickPresta: no, running it from the CLI is fine. It's just things like clicking on something in adept can take 10+ seconds
[22:51] <NickPresta> bobwhoops, oh. I have no idea what the problem could be. Sorry. Perhaps ask again later.
[22:53] <katja> does kubuntu @ kubuntu.org have KDE4 per default?
[22:54] <bobwhoops> katja: hardy heron (which is still in alpha) will ship with both 3.4 and 4.0
[22:55] <ZeH> where does programs install for example wine
[22:55] <NickPresta> katja, in Gutsy, no. You have to add a repo. line to get 4.0. In Hardy, you have 4.0 available to you by default (along with 3.5)
[22:55] <katja> okay, but I can install kde4 in gutsy, right?
[22:55] <NickPresta> !kde4 | katja
[22:55] <NickPresta> ZeH, most programs install to /usr/bin
[22:55] <ZeH> oki
[22:56] <catia_> alguem aki pode me ajudar com java? =D
[22:56] <NickPresta> !es | catia_
[22:56] <bobwhoops> ZeH: you could always run the command "which wine" for example
[22:57] <darrenor64> /usr/bin/zinfandel
[22:58] <ZeH> bobwhoops ok
[22:58] <ZeH> first time im using linux but have managed pretty well now :D
[22:59] <bobwhoops> ZeH: why do you want to know where it is anyway? it usually doesn't matter
[22:59] <ZeH> ye but i installed a program and didnt make any shortcuts
[22:59] <ZeH> bit hard to start it then :)
[23:02] <catia> como me registro aki?
 Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:04] <catia> !es | catia
[23:15] <ubuntu_> IM ABOUT TO RM -RF /
[23:19] <foibles> what bit torrent program do you guys use?
[23:20] <catia__> como me registro??
[23:22] <JESUSfreak> hello
[23:29] <ubotu> katja: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:29] <ubotu> catia_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:29] <michael__> hey folks
[23:29] <ibou> is it possible to lose quality on my audio files by making a compressed image of my hard drive ("ghost") ?
[23:30] <michael__> I just built a quad core system, which would be the best version to use? 32 or 64 bit version?
[23:31] <killermach> where are the compiz settings?
[23:32] <tom_>  
[23:32] <killermach> found it.. ccsm
[23:34] <killermach> hmm.. I used beryl for months,it seems to have more options/features than compiz
[23:34] <killermach> how do I rotate the compiz cube?
[23:35] <kral> turk yokmu
[23:36] <michael__> never mind
[23:36] <michael__> going for the 32
[23:36] <adz21c> michael__: either is good, I think for none servers 64bit doesnt have much to offer (unless u got more ram than 32bit works with)
[23:36] <kral> ak ubuntuya sattiz bizi d
[23:36] <adz21c> michael__: although i use 64bit and i have no issues. If your in doubt/novice i would say stick with 32
[23:37] <michael__> kubuntu seems to work with AMD chip when dealing with 64 bit
[23:37] <adz21c> it does for intel too
[23:37] <michael__> I chose Intell (first time in 10 - 15 years) for the Quad core
[23:38] <adz21c> yea, i usually stick to amd, but at the time of my pc upgrade i got more for my money with intel :-)
[23:38] <michael__> Intel spanked AMD with the Quad core
[23:38] <JESUSfreak_> hey which one is more efficent amd or intel?
[23:39] <adz21c> depends what u mean by efficient
[23:39] <michael__> you might as well draw a line through the middle of the room and tell the crowd to pick a side
[23:39] <adz21c> not exactly an easy question to answer
[23:39] <michael__> not easily done
[23:39] <JESUSfreak_> if i want to run a vista on my pc which processor should i use
[23:39] <adz21c> either
[23:40] <michael__> neither
[23:40] <michael__> lol
[23:40] <adz21c> lol
[23:40] <JESUSfreak_> do both have the same technology
[23:41] <adz21c> not in every respect
[23:41] <michael__> both have there version of the same tech.
[23:41] <gtt> anyone got a quick tip on a command that'll delete only empty directories?
[23:43] <JESUSfreak_> ok are any of you professional programmers?
[23:43] <JESUSfreak_> i mean like full time
[23:43] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ making my way there ...
[23:43] <rgreening> I have my BSC in Comp Sci, but don't program professionally :P
[23:43] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ 3 months and yea
[23:43] <rgreening> Im into networking
[23:44] <adz21c> i am in Soft Eng. :-)
[23:44] <JESUSfreak_> i was wondering can you get a decent job with an associates degree?
[23:45] <adz21c> couldn't say i don't know anyone who has done an associates degree
[23:46] <michael__> I would have had one, but I quit to make more money
[23:46] <michael__> lol
[23:46] <michael__> so I guess its 'to each his won'
[23:46] <michael__> own
[23:46] <adz21c> since it says its apparently called a "foundation degree" in the uk then i lied lol
[23:47] <adz21c> i do know someone and they got an ok job, but i think they were doing the work part time will doing a top up to Bsc
[23:47] <gtt> JESUSfreak -> with 10 years of networking experience and a fresh associate's with honors in CIT I've had trouble finding anything competitive with my current position.
[23:47] <sputnick> salut
[23:47] <Seldaek> I was wondering, if I install kubuntu, then want a dual boot with winxp, is it easy to restore grub or whatever boot loader after windows puts his crap over it ?
[23:47] <gtt> oh, and I'm Network+ and a Zend Certified Engineer.
[23:47] <adz21c> Seldaek: Yes, CD does it
[23:48] <Seldaek> dvd as well I suppose ;)
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: can't remember the ins and outs of it but when i did it a while back it wasn't a chore
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: you'd hope so :-)
[23:48] <wswindell> how do i use the dpkg
[23:48] <sputnick> ya des utilisateurs de pidgin/myspaceim ici ? comment on fait pour creer un compte IM ?
[23:48] <wswindell> in konsole
[23:48] <michael__> speaking of boot loader...
[23:48] <Seldaek> adz21c: thanks, what does the dvd have compared to the cd btw ? just a shitload of packages ?
[23:48] <sputnick> sorry, English channel
[23:48] <adz21c> wswindell: what you trying to acheive?
[23:48] <gtt> (anyone wanna hire a PHP programmer with a strong background in Object-Oriented Design and 10 years of network experience but little professional programming experience)
[23:48] <sputnick> hi thete
[23:48] <sputnick> hi there
[23:48] <adz21c> Seldaek: i don't know i never used DVD but i would assume so yea
[23:48] <wswindell> install REALbasic from my desktop through console
[23:49] <michael__> how can you switch the order of OS's (say.. windows & linux)
[23:49] <adz21c> wswindell: you should just need to right click and use GDebi
[23:49] <sputnick> what is the way to create a new account for pidgin/myspaceim ?
[23:49] <wswindell> my GDebi will not run properly
[23:49] <adz21c> michael__: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:49] <gtt> michael__: edit GRUB's configuration
[23:49] <michael__> Linux always lists first, and a customer of mine wants windows to be listed 1st
[23:49] <Seldaek> adz21c: okay thanks, well I'll kill xp and we'll see about reinstalling it later then
[23:50] <michael__> oh great ok
[23:50] <michael__> thanks
[23:50] <adz21c> Seldaek: good luck :-)
[23:50] <gtt> !grub
[23:50] <wswindell> should it be sudo dpkg /home/desktop/ FILENAME
[23:50] <adz21c> wswindell: use -i switch
[23:50] <wswindell> whats that
[23:50] <adz21c> wswindell: otherwise yea your there
[23:51] <adz21c> wswindell: dpkg -i /your/hile
[23:51] <wswindell> thanx
[23:51] <JESUSfreak_> hey i was trying to install an xp pro on this pc but after it copies the files and reboots it ends up with a blue screen saying there is something wrong with the driver
[23:51] <JESUSfreak_> hey i was trying to install an xp pro on this pc but after it copies the files and reboots it ends up with a blue screen saying there is something wrong with the driver
[23:52] <gtt> do we support windows here?
[23:52] <adz21c> JESUSfreak_ unlikely u will get much of a response in a linux room
[23:52] <coreymon77> JESUSfreak_: umm, this is the kubuntu linux channel
[23:52] <JESUSfreak_> ok
[23:52] <JESUSfreak_> sry
[23:54] <ZeH> that made me laugh :)
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Hay all - My isp switched, now i seem to be having connection issues. im wanting to ping google.com every 5 min or so, and logg if im connected, or not  to see if the isp is goofing me up.
[23:54] <wswindell> adz21c: tell me the command for a file called REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:55] <Red_Tear> diskordia
[23:55] <adz21c> wswindell: cd to its directory then put dpkg -i REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:55] <Red_Tear> 4 ever
[23:55] <wswindell> how
[23:56] <michael__> ok 32 bit downloaded
[23:56] <adz21c> wswindell: cd [path to directory]
[23:56] <michael__> here goes the instal see you on the other side
[23:56] <adz21c> :-)
[23:56] <Red_Tear> i am on the other side
[23:56] <Red_Tear> break on through
[23:56] <michael__> lol
[23:56] <ZeH> michael__ 64 bit pwns 32 bit :P
[23:56] <adz21c> lol
[23:56] <Red_Tear> for discordia
[23:57] <charwood> I just installed Hardy Heron Alpha 6 on my new notebook.  I'm trying to get wireless to work.  It has the Intel 3945 card in it.  I am using the ilw3945 and iwlwifie_mac80211 modules and it seems to be working-ish.  KWifiManager sometimes sees my access point and sometimes doesn't.  (It's 2 feet away).  But it won't connect.
[23:57] <michael__> what?
[23:57] <Red_Tear> there is just chaos in the world
[23:57] <wswindell> should i type in home or desktop
[23:57] <ZeH> michael__ nvm go ahead and comeback on the bright side
[23:57] <adz21c> wswindell: i don't know, where is the file?
[23:57] <Red_Tear> allways look on the bright side of death
[23:57] <wswindell> my desktop
[23:57] <michael__> ha later
[23:58] <adz21c> wswindell: dpkg -i /home/[user]/Desktop/REALbasicLinux.deb
[23:58] <adz21c> wswindell: replace user with username