[00:00] <Ubulette> ok, if they sell it with gutsy, it should be good enough for me :)
[00:06] <asac> yes
[00:06] <asac> thats ok
[00:06] <asac> 3945 is fine
[00:08] <Ubulette> seems i can have a decent config for a price within what I wanted to spend
[00:09] <xhaker> great
[00:09] <asac> so dell? what model? insprion or XPS? or latitude?
[00:11] <Ubulette> inspiron 1525, dual core 2G, 2x1GB, 1440x900, 250G HD, 9 cells battery
[00:13] <Ubulette> no webcam, and no bluetooth
[00:13] <Ubulette> maybe i should
[00:13] <Ubulette> and of course no vista
[00:14] <xhaker> 15", noooo
[00:14] <xhaker> :D
[00:14] <Ubulette> why ?
[00:15] <Ubulette> I want 1440x900
[00:15] <Ubulette> well, I want 720p
[00:15] <xhaker> 1440x900 in a 14.1" would be better
[00:15] <xhaker> don't you think 15" is too big to carry around?
[00:16] <Ubulette> i already have the bags for that
[00:16] <asac> Ubulette: the ubuntu XPS 1330 has a 1440x900 option here as well
[00:16] <asac> hehe
[00:16] <xhaker> asac: really? 13.3" with 1440x900? where?!
[00:17] <asac> dell
[00:17] <asac> dell -> ubuntu ... XPS
[00:17] <Ubulette> can't find it
[00:17] <xhaker> asac: I've got an m1330 but there was no option for 1440x900
[00:18] <Ubulette> same here, the two options are 1280x800
[00:18] <asac> yeah i was wrong :)
[00:19] <xhaker> Ubulette: my m1330 fits on my TechAir laptop bag horizontaly! hehe
[00:19] <xhaker> even with the 9cell bat :)
[00:19] <asac> you can get a lenovo tablet X61 ... that has that resolution
[00:19] <asac> 142dpi
[00:19] <asac> 12"
[00:20] <Ubulette> i don't want to kill my eyes
[01:01] <Ubulette> asac, is it still possible for me to have prism 0.9 in hardy ?
[01:01] <Ubulette> I have to figure out what to do with the webapps icons though
[01:01] <asac> not sure
[01:02] <Ubulette> (as I got no answer from google)
[01:02] <asac> you need to make a good point
[01:02] <Ubulette> at least the xpm->png transition
[01:02] <Ubulette> today, it's broken, so it falls back to the default
[01:03] <Ubulette> the small prism
[01:03] <Ubulette> or I could just fix that in the same 0.8+svn
[01:04] <Ubulette> is universe also frozen ?
[01:07] <asac> yes ... everything is FF
[01:08] <asac> better try to fix the current package i guess
[01:08] <asac> otherwise write down the reasons why a FF exception should be granted
[01:08] <asac> and file a bug ... subscribe universe-release to it
[01:10] <Ubulette> i was about to fix the current package, but 0.9 has been released today
[01:10] <asac> there is a wiki document about the procedure and the requirements for FF exceptions
[01:10] <Ubulette> well, i'll think about it for next week
[01:11] <asac> try to get the exception asap
[01:11] <asac> the closer we get the harder it gets
[01:11] <asac> next week is beta freeze
[01:12] <Ubulette> k
[01:12] <Ubulette> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=718018
[01:12] <Ubulette> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=718005
[01:13] <asac> yeah ... if those wireless folks could just include some facts in their post it would be so awesome :)
[01:16] <Ubulette> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=718112
[01:16] <asac> never heard of wired authentication :)
[01:22] <asac> hmm X crashed here on my think pad
[01:22] <Ubulette> lenovo ?
[01:22] <asac> yes
[01:22] <asac> X61
[01:22] <asac> bad resolution ... but otherwise great :)
[01:23] <asac> the keyboard is just fantastic (unfortunately i have no US layout)
[01:24] <Ubulette> you don't want a german keyboard ?
[01:25] <asac> its kind of a curse to live in a country that has enough inhabitants to crete its own keyboard layout
[01:25] <asac> yeah ... i don't want it
[01:25] <asac> i hate it
[01:25] <asac> {}[]
[01:25] <Ubulette> oh
[01:25] <Ubulette> yeah me too
[01:25] <asac> for those i have to push alt-gr (right to space)
[01:25] <Ubulette> but i'm now used to it
[01:25] <asac> so everytime have to move my whole hand in a crazy position
[01:25] <asac> i am pretty sure that there might be a good german layout
[01:26] <asac> but not by adapting the US layout
[01:26] <Ubulette> I've used a real qwerty keyboard for several years
[01:26] <asac> and punching replacing essential keys with the letters that they don't have
[01:26] <Ubulette> transition to french was difficult
[01:26] <asac> german keyboard layout is almost the same as us for alpha
[01:26] <asac> only y and z are switched
[01:26] <asac> however ... + is replaced by ö
[01:26] <Ubulette> fr is azertyuiop
[01:26] <asac> and there is äüß
[01:27] <asac> all those occupy precious space
[01:27] <asac> how many letters does the french alphabet have?
[01:27] <Ubulette> 26
[01:27] <asac> 26 ... i think thats the same as US
[01:27] <Ubulette> yes
[01:27] <asac> we 26 regular + 4 irregular
[01:27] <Ubulette> we have accents
[01:27] <asac> yeah ... we can type them as well :)
[01:28] <asac> with dead keys :)
[01:28] <asac> but öäü are no accents
[01:28] <asac> real letters
[01:28] <asac> i never type them and most germans hate me for raping their language :)
[01:28] <asac> i type ae for ä and oe for ö ... and so on
[01:28] <asac> ß is ss for me :)
[01:28] <Ubulette> éèëêîçàù etc
[01:28] <asac> yeah ... do you type those with dead keys?
[01:29] <asac> (or at least some)?
[01:29] <Ubulette> no
[01:29] <Ubulette> some
[01:29] <asac> so they are included in 26?
[01:29] <Ubulette> i have real keys for éçàù
[01:29] <Ubulette> î = ^ + i
[01:29] <asac> ok ... so the situation is most likely similar
[01:29] <asac> hopefully they arranged the key combination at least in a way that you can use two hands to combine them
[01:30] <Ubulette> yes
[01:30] <asac> i disabled dead keys here :-D
[01:30] <asac> luckily i don't miss any important sign by doing that
[01:30] <Ubulette> but it's difficult for me to type é, i keep typing a regular e
[01:30] <asac> yeah ... just go for the regular e :)
[01:30] <asac> its wrong in german to use ss instead of ß as well :) ... but i refuse to type that letter :)
[01:31] <asac> go for boykott ;)
[01:31] <asac> no idea if you could mess up the meaning in french by introducing redundancies when doing that though
[01:31] <asac> but i guess that native speakers shouldn't have a problem to understand some redundancy ;)
[01:31] <Ubulette> used to when i had a us keyboard, now I try to fix this bad habit as this is bad french
[01:31] <asac> hehe
[01:32] <asac> yeah
[01:32] <asac> i gave up on that
[01:32] <asac> "fixing my bad habit"
[01:32] <asac> i would immediately switch to US layout ... if not the germans had moved one key somewhere else
[01:32] <asac> the  | went down to the bottom left
[01:32] <Ubulette> you could remap your keyboard completely
[01:33] <asac> and the enter key is huge :) ... e.g. two rows
[01:33] <asac> i could ... but the enter physical layout is slightly differnent
[01:33] <asac> thats what really turns me off
[01:33] <asac> (even though we have the same amount of keys in total i guess)
[01:34] <asac> but i think the en_GB keyboards have a similar mess as the german ones (and honestly, i don't understand why britain needed their own standard)
[01:34] <Ubulette> 105 on a regular (big) keyboard
[01:34] <Ubulette> same here with fr_FR, fr_BE, fr_CA
[01:34] <Ubulette> fr_CH and more
[01:35] <asac> why ... isn't just "french" ... or just "en" ... or just english patriotism enough ;)
[01:35] <asac> i am not sure if there is a different keyboard for de_CH :)
[01:35] <asac> or de_AT
[01:38] <Ubulette> lol "sudo sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g' /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.04/jre/lib/i386/xawt/libmawt.so"
[01:38] <asac> cool
[01:39] <Ubulette> i find it weird to use a text stream editor to fix binaries
[01:39] <Ubulette> bug 173966
[01:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173966 in sun-java6 "java not working in firefox on kubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173966
[01:46] <asac> does sed look at the file size instead of stopping at \0?
[01:46] <Ubulette> not sure
[01:47] <asac> otherwise its unlikely to succeed ;)
[01:47] <Ubulette> i guess it does otherwise it would not have worked for those gues
[01:47] <Ubulette> guys
[01:47] <asac> who knows
[01:47] <asac> is that a comment?
[01:48] <Ubulette> jsut read the bug
[01:48] <asac> i don't see the first proposed solution
[01:48] <asac> in that bug at all
[01:48] <asac> most likely the sed expression does nothing because it hits a \0 up front
[01:48] <asac> and its the link
[01:50] <asac> i thought i already fixed the links/alternative
[01:50] <asac> hmm ... no i didn't. doko was supposed to do that i guess
[01:56] <Ubulette> 'night
[01:56] <asac> n8
[11:40] <armin76> bah
[11:41] <armin76> [reed]: why isn't there a tarball for sunbird-0.8rc1? :(
[11:41] <[reed]> sorry, kinda busy
[11:43] <armin76> bumb!
[11:44]  * armin76 blames asac instead
[12:37] <asac> armin76: online first-class-citizen applications get source tarballs for RCs at mozilla
[12:44] <asac> s/online/only/ .. obviously
[14:35] <armin76> asac: oh...
[14:36] <[reed]> lol
[16:09] <phoenix24> Hi!!
[16:10] <phoenix24> asac: I need to confirm, if "Apache 2.0 license" is absolutely acceptable for pushing an ff3-extension.