[00:15] <tzb> Question: How would I configure mythbuntu to start the frontend automatically upon boot?  Currently it starts into a XFCE desktop, where I need to manually launch mythfrontend.
[00:16] <hitme> good evening
[00:17] <hitme> is any1 able to help a linux&ubuntu&mythbuntu n00b some ? >(
[00:20] <tzb> hitme: sure
[00:21] <hitme> resolution jumping back on every reboot, german layout dosn|T stay, dvb-t card problems(saa7134) .... :)
[00:22] <hitme> + i am a real n00b with this :(
[00:24] <hitme> Ubuntu 8.04
[00:24] <tzb> on resolution, which type of display?
[00:24] <tzb> TV out or monitor?
[00:24] <hitme> monitor for now
[00:25] <hitme> 1024x768 i want
[00:25] <hitme> 1280x1024 i get
[00:25] <tzb> personally, I always edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and hardcode only the resolution I want
[00:25] <hitme> on every reboot
[00:25] <hitme> i can try
[00:25] <tzb> are you comfortable with editing files?
[00:26] <hitme> if i find them yes
[00:26] <hitme> i grow up with dos .. so command line is np .. just the commands missing .. trying to learn ``
[00:27] <tzb> I must warn you, I'm a command line guy.  So often there is a GUI way to do things, but just prefer the terminal.
[00:27] <hitme>   modeline  "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
[00:27] <hitme> i can remove that, right _
[00:28] <hitme> ?
[00:28] <tzb> or comment it out with # at the start
[00:29] <tzb> modelines are normally only needed for monitors/TVs that don't properly report their config info through EDID.  That may be the case with your flat panel TV for example.  But for a computer montior, it is not needed.
[00:29] <hitme> ok i removed or commented out there everzthing abouve 1024
[00:29] <tzb> ok can you paste the screen section?
[00:29] <hitme> well i gave him the model of mz tft in config menu
[00:29] <tzb> and montior and device too
[00:29] <hitme> didn|T worked it seems
[00:30] <hitme> (cer F51)
[00:30] <hitme> acer*
[00:31] <hitme> but did not work also
[00:31] <hitme> where i edi the keyboard layout .. its makes me crazy yu seek all keys
[00:32] <hitme> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us" ?
[00:32] <tzb> Did you choose that during install?
[00:32] <hitme> yes, i choose german everywhare but he always jumps back
[00:32] <tzb> strange
[00:33] <tzb> yeah, try to change that line
[00:33] <hitme> de now there
[00:33] <tzb> yeah, worth a try
[00:33] <tzb> you on a laptop for IRC?
[00:33] <hitme> no i can install and start on windows system ..
[00:34] <hitme> sec
[00:34] <hitme> secirc client
[00:34] <hitme> gahhh .. :P
[00:34] <tzb> ok, you will need to restart X to test resolution change and keyboard change
[00:35] <tzb> logout and back in, or ctrl-alt-backspace, or you could also reboot
[00:35] <hitme> sec getting windows client on and in here then i reboot
[00:35] <tzb> yep
[00:36] <hitme666> there we go
[00:36] <hitme> ok <(
[00:36] <hitme> lets trz restart grafic engine, never did that
[00:37] <hitme666> how i can restart ?
[00:40] <hitme666> strange on commandline i got german layout ^^
[00:43] <tzb> different keyboard settings for that
[00:44] <tzb> restart with "sudo reboot" in term, or select from menu
[00:44] <hitme666> well i did try to kill xserver myself .. endet up in giving up and reboot the pc now ^^
[00:44] <hitme666> yes
[00:44] <hitme666> but i was trying only reboot the xserver
[00:44] <tzb> or ctrl-alt-delete from a TTY (ctrl-alt-F1 to get to VT which runs a tty)
[00:44] <tzb> ctrl-alt-backspace to reboot X server
[00:45] <hitme666> aha ;)
[00:45] <hitme666> ok booth changes seem to work
[00:45] <hitme666> display is 1024x768 now and layout german
[00:46] <tzb> excellent
[00:46] <hitme666> ok now my hardest problem ^^
[00:46] <hitme666> to get my Medion 7134 (saa7134) dvb-t card running ^^
[00:46] <tzb> yup
[00:47] <hitme666> i googled like 10 hours, all i found didn'T help really since outdated ot incomplete or n00b unfriendly
[00:47] <tzb> ok go to term. do you see anything in /dev/dvb/?
[00:47] <hitme666> sec
[00:48] <hitme666> dir not exist
[00:49] <tzb> Do you know if this card is supported?
[00:49] <hitme666> http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/MythTV#Images_requested_for_TV_tuners
[00:50] <hitme666> chipset is
[00:50] <tzb> ok good
[00:50] <tzb> when you do 'lspci' do you see your card listed?
[00:50] <hitme666> yes
[00:52] <hitme666> 01:06.0 Multimedia Controler: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[00:53] <tzb> ok, try 'sudo lspci -v -s 01:06.0'
[00:53] <tzb> just to get detailed info on the device
[00:54] <hitme666> Subsystem unknows device 00be:0003
[00:54] <tzb> it seems that chipset might not be supported in the main kernel yet, you might need to compile a driver for it from the pre-release sources
[00:54] <hitme666> flags: bus master, medium devsel ...
[00:54] <tzb> ok, fine
[00:55] <hitme666> so how hard this will be ?
[00:55] <tzb> now:  lsmod | grep saa7134
[00:55] <tzb> medium hard
[00:56] <hitme666> showing a lot
[00:56] <hitme666> lemme get linux irc on to copy paste
[00:56] <tzb> ok
[00:57] <hitme> @Myth-TV-Server:~$ lsmod | grep saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> saa7134               142036  0
[00:57] <hitme> videodev               34944  3 saa7146_vv,tuner,saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> compat_ioctl32          2304  1 saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> v4l2_common            12672  2 tuner,saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> videobuf_dma_sg        14852  2 saa7146_vv,saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> videobuf_core          19460  3 saa7146_vv,saa7134,videobuf_dma_sg
[00:57] <hitme> ir_kbd_i2c             11024  1 saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> ir_common              38276  2 saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
[00:57] <hitme> tveeprom               13316  1 saa7134
[00:57] <hitme> i2c_core               24832  19 dvb_ttpci,ttpci_eeprom,tuner,tea5767,tda8290,tda18271,tda827x,tuner_xc2028,xc5000,tda9887,tuner_simple,mt20xx,tea5761,nvidia,saa7134,v4l2_common,ir_kbd_i2c,tveeprom,i2c_nforce2
[00:57] <hitme> there we go
[00:58] <hitme> i hope i don't destayed anything with my mods jet
[00:58] <tzb> ok, so the module is already loaded
[00:58] <tzb> but no /dev/dvb dir at all?
[00:58] <hitme> i inserted in 2 or 3 files options or that
[00:58] <hitme> nope
[00:59] <tzb> what commands did you run since last reboot?  did you install any drivers yet?
[00:59] <hitme666> only the ones you told me
[00:59] <tzb> ok
[00:59] <hitme666> all driver i load extra i inserted into files erly
[01:00] <hitme666> like i found on the how to's .. al least what i understand there
[01:00] <hitme666> ^^
[01:00] <tzb> ok, next step would be to look at /var/log/kern.log   (or alternatively the output of the dmesg command)
[01:01] <hitme666> open
[01:01] <lime4x4> can no longer connect to my mythtv box when using terminal servcies. How can i reconfigure the vnc server on the mythtv box
[01:01] <tzb> best to look at the output when the driver for your card is loaded. it should display some messages about creating the /dev/dvb devices.
[01:02] <tzb> I don't know how to do that on mythbuntu.
[01:02] <tzb> There is a VNC server built into GNOME called vino, but mythbuntu doesn't run GNOME by default.
[01:03] <hitme> Mar  8 01:44:30 Myth-TV-Server kernel: [   36.495493] input: saa7134 IR (LifeView FlyVIDEO30 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.0/0000:01:06.0/input/input7
[01:03] <tzb> There is also something called X11VNC that can be a vnc server to any desktop, never used it.  mythubuntu may have another way, someone might know.
[01:03] <tzb> seems ok
[01:03] <tzb> can you send me the entire file somehow?
[01:04] <tzb> direct file transfer in IRC or something?
[01:04] <hitme> lsirc file transfer possible ?
[01:04] <hitme> ksirc
[01:04] <tzb>    /var/log/kern.log
[01:06] <tzb> seems like it is blocked due to spam.. hmmm
[01:06] <hitme666> trying to send now
[01:06] <tzb> ahh!   Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <tzb> I should read instructions.  ;-)
[01:08] <tzb> if you use that site, I can get your log
[01:08] <hitme666> 5420
[01:09] <hitme666> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5420/
[01:09] <hitme666> i am a n00b but i am able to learn fast (i hope :D)
[01:12] <tzb> give me a few minutes please
[01:12] <hitme666> np :)
[01:13] <hitme666> maybe i should say after instal, ho drivers for card was loaded at all.. al what is loaded is made by my mods
[01:13] <tzb> line 2564 and on are trouble
[01:14] <tzb> did you compile or install any modules?
[01:14] <hitme666> video4linux
[01:14] <tzb> ahh
[01:14] <hitme666> not sure if its done right
[01:14] <tzb> there may be some modules duplicated
[01:14] <hitme666> no errors while compile/install
[01:14] <tzb> or something else
[01:15] <hitme666> baybe becouse i call drivers with same options in 2 files
[01:15] <hitme666> *maybe
[01:16] <tzb> also lines 2532-2534
[01:17] <tzb> but the first set of problems with the symbol versions should be fixed
[01:17] <tzb> how did you get v4l-dvd drivers?
[01:17] <tzb> dvb sorry
[01:17] <hitme666> dl from website, untar make then make install
[01:18] <tzb> is there a configure script?
[01:18] <hitme666> hmm what you think, maybe a reinstall to get rid of my mods ?
[01:18] <tzb> yes, good idea to do that
[01:18] <hitme666> ok starting now
[01:18] <hitme666> but i can not install 7.10
[01:19] <tzb>   ./configure
[01:19] <hitme666> getting out of range error soon its enters xserver
[01:19] <tzb>   make clean
[01:19] <tzb>   make
[01:19] <tzb>   sudo make install
[01:19] <hitme666> inserted 8.04 cd, dled version from today
[01:19] <hitme666> choosing install mythbuntu
[01:19] <tzb> well, 8.04 is still alpha
[01:20] <hitme666> at least i can install 7.10 won'T run
[01:20] <hitme666> becouse of grapfic
[01:20] <hitme666> launcing in whatever .. even my 21" crt can'T handle
[01:21] <hitme666> nor in vga mot or anything
[01:21] <hitme666> and i read a lot before choosing 8.04 alpha .. everyone saying its very stable
[01:23] <tzb> ok - I'm sure we can get this card working, just a matter of installing the drivers properly
[01:23] <hitme666> install copying now
[01:24] <hitme666> i will do the myth backend config later (senceless anyway without drivers)
[01:24] <hitme666> but i will have to get all tools again (like editor) ^^
[01:25] <Nikas> Hello. I did it before but i cant remember how. I want to make mythweb NOT to ask for a password if i'm coming from the internal network (192.168.1.*). How? :)
[01:25] <hitme666> myth tv install is really very very basic ^^
[01:28] <hitme666> what infos you well need after install first ?
[01:32] <tzb> hitme: I don't understand your question.
[01:33] <hitme666> well ;) install dne lemme find and edit that x config fire first again
[01:33] <tzb>   /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ?
[01:34] <hitme666> yes sec
[01:35] <tzb> nikas: Kind of a workaround, but you can save password in your browser.
[01:37] <Nikas> tzb: i have :)
[01:38] <Nikas> before my clean install i did not have to enter password. i did add something in the config for apache but i dont know what
[01:38] <lime4x4> how can i tell if vnc is running a mythbuntu box?
[01:44] <Nikas> lime4x4: try lsof -i -n -P | grep Xorg
[01:44] <Nikas> you should see something like "TCP *:5900 (LISTEN)
[01:45] <lime4x4> nothing shows up?
[01:45] <lime4x4> how can i restart the vnc server thru command line?
[01:45] <Nikas> how did you install vnc?
[01:45] <Nikas> did you use mcc?
[01:45] <lime4x4> i enabled it thru mythcontrol center
[01:46] <Nikas> did you have the cd in the drive when you did it?
[01:46] <lime4x4> it worked for a few days then stopped working
[01:46] <Nikas> oh.. ok
[01:46] <lime4x4> i can ssh into the box just fine thou
[01:46] <Nikas> have you changed something in xorg.conf?
[01:46] <lime4x4> not to my knowledge
[01:47] <Nikas> take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Look for VNC-stuff ;)
[01:48] <lime4x4> the only thing i c is the following
[01:48] <lime4x4> Section "Module"
[01:48] <lime4x4>         Load            "vnc"
[01:48] <hitme666> ok now install done
[01:48] <hitme666> lspci
[01:48] <hitme666> ?
[01:48] <tzb> hitme: yup
[01:48] <hitme666> ard is still shown there
[01:48] <hitme666> *card
[01:48] <rhpot1991> does anyone here have comcast and more than one cable box from them?
[01:48] <Nikas> lime4x4: nothing more?
[01:49] <lime4x4> nope that's it
[01:49] <lime4x4> i'll post the whole file at pastebin
[01:49] <tzb> hitme: good. now 'lsmod | grep saa7134'
[01:49] <Nikas> lime4x4: check Section "Screen"
[01:49] <hitme666> nothing
[01:50] <hitme666> nothing shown there now
[01:51] <lime4x4> Nikas here is the whole file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5421/
[01:51] <Nikas> lime4x4: Looks like it should
[01:52] <Nikas> lime4x4: try to restart X
[01:53] <hitme666> want the kernel log again ?
[01:53] <lime4x4> did that
[01:54] <lime4x4> still the same error when trying to connect no server found at this addres
[01:55] <Nikas> lhm
[01:55] <Nikas> hm*
[01:56] <tzb> hitme: no. you need to compile the driver from source and install it.
[01:56] <Nikas> you could try to remove the vnc-server from mcc and then add it again
[01:56] <lime4x4> tried that tonight with no luck either
[01:56] <hitme> tzb: how ^^
[01:57] <lime4x4> the only thing that is odd is i use wireless on that box but when i run ifconfig it only shows eth0 and lo
[01:57] <hitme> uhm you chould really check the kern log
[01:57] <hitme> look 5422
[01:57] <Nikas> well. i dont know then.. :)
[01:58] <lime4x4> but yet i can ssh into box no problem
[01:58] <hitme> lines 1212 - 1225
[01:58] <hitme> symbols still there
[01:59] <hitme> looks like kernel trying to install the card
[01:59] <tzb> you are right!
[02:00] <hitme666> but where to go from here ^^
[02:00] <tzb> hitme: did you install any driver yet, or is this stock install?
[02:00] <Nikas> lime4x4: When you re-added vnc, did you have the installation-cd in the drive?
[02:00] <lime4x4> yes
[02:00] <hitme666> this is fresh clean install
[02:01] <Nikas> ..
[02:01] <lime4x4> i'm starting to think for some reason vnc is only looking at the eth0 card
[02:02] <tzb> hitme:   hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb
[02:02] <hitme666> tzb join mythtv-hitme so we ain'T crosstalk
[02:03] <tzb> hitme:  cd v4l-dvb
[02:04] <Nikas> lime4x4: You need to see something listening at port 5900
[02:04] <tzb> hitme: ok - sorry about that everyone
[02:04] <Nikas> or else vnc most are most likely not running
[02:04] <hitme666> installing hg
[02:05] <Nikas> lime4x4: lsof -i -n -P | grep -v 127.0.0.1
[02:05] <lime4x4> will i looked in /etc/network/interfaces and eth0 is my wireless card
[02:06] <lime4x4> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[02:06] <lime4x4> mtd     5504 john    4u  IPv4  17899       TCP *:2442 (LISTEN)
[02:06] <lime4x4> and that's all that shows up
[02:07] <Nikas> lime4x4: are you su? Try sudo lsof -i -n -P | grep -v 127.0.0.1
[02:08] <lime4x4> that brought up al;ot more but no vnc or a 5900 port
[02:08] <Nikas> no, it should be "Xorg" at port 5900. Don't look for vnc ;)
[02:09] <lime4x4> no xorg either
[02:09] <Nikas> :/
[02:09] <lime4x4> is it possible to start it manually?
[02:14] <Nikas> i dont know
[02:21] <lime4x4> has anyone upgraded to the hardy version?
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest53> is there a place to talk about 8.04 installs?
[04:14] <boykillsworl3> hey got mythtv working great and commercials are flagged just can't figure out why autoskipping doesn't work
[04:15] <lime4x4> is it possible to increase the sound of a video file?
[04:18] <boykillsworl3> well in order to do that you usually have to demux the sound increase the volume then mux it back on and if you don't do it right the sound wont line up
[04:19] <lime4x4> well that sucks
[04:19] <lime4x4> even at max volume the sound is pretty hard to hear
[04:19] <boykillsworl3> hmm
[04:20] <lime4x4> wether it's a video or watching live tv
[04:20] <boykillsworl3> mythtv usually records at a pretty standard volume
[04:20] <boykillsworl3> do you have rca in or coax for recording
[04:20] <lime4x4> coax
[04:20] <boykillsworl3> when you play music is it loud enough
[04:21] <lime4x4> i have my mythbox tied into a sound around system. if i'm not with 4 feet of the speakers i can't hear anything
[04:22] <lime4x4> i have the myth box set to max volume
[04:22] <lime4x4> and my surround set to max volume
[04:22] <boykillsworl3> just wondering if it's all sound on your computer or just the vidoe
[04:22] <boykillsworl3> *video
[04:22] <boykillsworl3> from myth
[04:23] <lime4x4> i get the same level of sound no matter what a play, live tv a recorded show a dvd
[04:24] <lime4x4> so i'm going to assume it's something with mythtv
[04:25] <boykillsworl3> what about when you run other apps
[04:25] <boykillsworl3> like rhythmbox for playing mp3s
[04:26] <boykillsworl3> try opening up a commandline and type alsamixer
[04:26] <boykillsworl3> then crank everything
[04:29] <boykillsworl3> you still here
[04:31] <lime4x4> that worked thanks
[04:31] <boykillsworl3> yeah hope you didn't blow out your system when it worked
[04:32] <lime4x4> lol
[04:34] <boykillsworl3> now anyone got commercial autoskipping working I know I got it flagging right
[04:35] <boykillsworl3> guess I'll just map the z key and call it a day
[04:36] <boykillsworl3> I always space out and end up watching commercials
[04:56] <boykillsworl3> well auto skip works now guess I just needed it enabled as I was recording the show
[08:03] <Koffa> "Found channel, but it doesn't match existing tsid." - tried deleting all channels for that vid source, but keep getting the same error
[08:05] <Koffa> can it be because adding a new tuner put it in as 0 and the old one is 1? but what has that got to do with tsid?
[08:08] <Koffa> removed all channels and transports, still the same error...
[11:52] <myth-newb> can anyone help me with a compiler error?
[11:53] <myth-newb> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $path
[12:04] <directhex> myth-newb, and you have which c compiler installed?
[12:05] <directhex> and, more specifically, why is that a mythtv-related question?
[13:04] <versus> hi, Im configuring my mythbuntu right now and wondered if someone knows a way to change the mythbuntu  bootsplash?
[13:04] <directhex> usplash. ubuntu uses usplash for splash screens
[13:05] <directhex> you need the "startupmanager" package, really
[13:06] <versus> just apt-get startupmanager?
[13:06] <directhex> and to compile a new .so file with the splash screen in it, of course
[13:08] <versus> I wanted to save an animation as mng file and play it everytime the htpc starts, is that possible?
[13:11] <versus> by the way whoever helped to build mythbuntu did a great job, its much easier to configure than knoppmyth!
[13:13] <directhex> i wasn't aware usplash supported animation
[13:13] <directhex> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[13:16] <versus> There is no special usplash channel, right?
[13:26] <versus> Am I able to play some kind of video instead of the bootsplash?
[13:31] <versus> P.S.: when I talk about the bootsplash I actually think about the one immediately following grub (not just before login)
[14:27] <myth-newb> directhex: sorry i was messing with myth still no joy
[14:29] <myth-newb> directhex: my question is - how do i get my lcd operating it works if i run sudo LCDd -f -r -4 i get "lcdproc server" displayed on it
[14:34] <myth-newb> anyone?
[15:32] <yotux> I am running ubuntu 7.10 wanting to add mythtv
[15:32] <hitme666> just add from packatmanager i think
[15:33] <yotux> using the wiki as a guide
[15:33] <yotux> says I will install mythbuntu control panel
[15:34] <hitme666> can'T help you mutch there anyway, i am a newbie in lunux/ubunti/mythtv myself ^^
[15:34] <hitme666> i just installed mythbuntu and added ubuntu desctop uptop
[15:35] <yotux> ok
[15:35] <yotux> I am going the opposite
[15:35] <yotux> installed ubuntu 7.10
[15:35] <yotux> now installing myth
[15:35] <yotux> welcome to ubuntu though
[15:36] <hitme666> one sec i think a way was called in a magazine i got here .. melle check
[15:37] <hitme666> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[15:37] <hitme666> they just link there
[15:38] <hitme666> seems just add an anuther packet server and you nerly good to go
[15:43] <hitme666> and i have to say its still not easy for a windows user to switch to linux/ubuntu
[15:45] <directhex> or vice versa
[15:45] <directhex> different things in "not the same" shocker
[15:45] <myth-newb> I am running mythbuntu 7.1
[15:46] <myth-newb> all set up and working
[15:46] <myth-newb> except my lcd :-(
[15:46] <hitme666> i run 8.04 alpha .. but had lots of trouble with my saa1734 tv card ...
[15:46] <myth-newb> ahem
[15:46] <myth-newb> alpha?
[15:46] <myth-newb> no wonder you go problems
[15:47] <hitme666> cound't install 710 on my system becouse of lcd ^^
[15:47] <myth-newb> what lcd you have
[15:47] <myth-newb> I have mine running
[15:47] <hitme666> acer f51
[15:47] <myth-newb> but alli can display is lcdproc server
[15:48] <hitme666> when i start the install .. no matter in what mode, lcd runs out of range with 7.10
[15:52] <tgm4883> hitme666, you could try a ubuntu command line install then install mythbuntu-desktop from the command line
[15:53] <hitme666> well 8.04 is up and running now, i hope :P
[15:57] <tgm4883> was there a problem?
[15:58] <hitme666> for me yes, had tzb here from irc who helped me in config of my tv card
[15:58] <hitme666> and had 2 little other problems (resolution alwas changed back after reboot and keybord language wasn't running in xserve)
[16:01] <hitme666> right now i am trying to play a youtube video there
[16:01] <hitme666> but ain't working ^^
[16:01] <tgm4883> ah
[16:01] <zabadapp> On my mythbuntu 7.10 install, the HD-led is flashing at an interval of 1Hz even if it is idle. I have tried turning off hal-polling and run strace but no process is responsible (kjournald is way less frequent). If I boot failsafe into root, it stops. A friend has the same issue on his mythbuntu box. Anyone else with this? Or maybe suggestions?
[16:02] <tgm4883> flashing at an interval of 1Hz?  did you measure this, or are you going to make me figure out how fast that is
[16:02] <hitme666> Gnash won't run like it should and adobe flash i dunno how to install ^^
[16:02] <tgm4883> hitme666, what are you using to play the youtube video?
[16:03] <zabadapp> by looking at the : in the clock on the vfd-display, there seems to be very little drift ... and the flashing are very small bursts at a time
[16:03] <tgm4883> hitme666, are you trying to do youtube in a browser?
[16:04] <hitme666> yes in mozilla firefox
[16:04] <tgm4883> hitme666, AFAIK you can't use it at the moment, but mythstream has a youtube parser
[16:05] <zabadapp> Killing lcdproc doesn't help :-) it was my first suspect
[16:06] <hitme666> hmm same for other video websites also ?
[16:06] <tgm4883> hitme666, there is a list of the parsers on the authors website.  if you google mythstream you can find it.  Hint, it's not the same as mythstreamtv
[16:08] <hitme666> i got it installed erly, how to use ? :P
[16:09] <tgm4883> well 2 things.  1st, i think the parsers need updated.  Second, try to go into mythstream from the media menu in the mythtv frontend.  It might say that it was compiled against the wrong ver of myth
[16:10] <hitme666> yes its does
[16:10] <hitme666> "sudo make distclean" first ?
[16:11] <hitme666> hmm no ^^
[16:11] <hitme666> grr i hate it beeing a noob ^^
[16:13] <tgm4883> nah it should be fixed soon
[16:13] <hitme666> "no rules to make target 'distclean'"
[16:15] <tgm4883> hitme666, sec
[16:16] <tgm4883> looks to be fixed in mythstream - 0.18.1-0ubuntu6
[16:16] <tgm4883> !bug 198956
[16:16] <tgm4883> bah
[16:16] <tgm4883> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/198956
[16:16]  * tgm4883 secretly hates ubotu
[16:17] <tgm4883> so once that hits the repos you will be able to upgrade to it
[16:21] <hitme666> any way to get and install by hand ?
[16:24] <tgm4883> hitme666, perhaps, let me grab my laptop, it has the link on it
[16:25] <hitme666> k thanks :)
[16:25] <hitme666> getting linux irc in also
[16:29] <hitme666> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mythstream/0.18.1-0ubuntu6/+files/mythstream_0.18.1.orig.tar.gz mayyyybe ?
[16:29] <tgm4883> no
[16:30] <hitme666> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mythstream/0.18.1-0ubuntu6
[16:30] <tgm4883> technically, those 3 files are the ones you would want
[16:30] <hitme666> lol
[16:30] <directhex> dget -x http://path/to/file.dsc
[16:30] <tgm4883> but i would think that it would be in the repos by the end of the weekend
[16:31] <tgm4883> i could be wrong though
[16:34] <hitme666> directhex, ain'T work i don'T have the ssl certificate
[16:38] <Johannes_> Hi Where can I find a list of the new features that will be include in 8.04?
[16:39] <directhex> the ubuntu 8.04 and mythtv 0.21 release notes
[16:42] <tgm4883_laptop> !packaging
[16:42] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[16:42] <tgm4883_laptop> hitme666, read that^^
[16:45] <hitme666> a lot of input :P
[16:58] <nettow0822_> can you enter the channel data ie 432:5550000:qam_256:2048:2049:1 by using 'New channel'?
[17:27] <hitme> can tvtime show dvb-t or only analog tv ?
[17:29] <directhex> analog only
[17:29] <directhex> tvtime is enormously framegrabber-centric
[17:30] <hitme666> ok ty
[17:32] <hitme> how to remote desctop the mythbuntu machine from a windows pc ?
[17:32] <hitme> nvc was enable in backend config
[17:33] <hitme> *vnc
[17:35] <adaptr> yeah... backend
[17:41] <hitme666> woot wirks :D
[17:41] <hitme666> *works
[18:00] <lime4x4> how do u enable optical sound output?
[18:10] <famicom_> learn how to ask a proper question first
[18:26] <frink_> aww
[18:28] <famicom_> I'm sorry, but coming in and asking something along the lines of "how do i do" is like walking into a room and asking "how do i get laid"
[18:41] <lime4x4> sorry it uses a built in nvidia sound card that is built into the motherboard which has digital ouput for sound
[18:43] <directhex> run alsamixer, mute/unmute the iec958 control
[18:43] <hitme666> hmm i enabled the start splash screen and now i can'T get to desktop anymore after boot
[18:44] <hitme666> just seeing mythbuntu loogo and below is just standing starking workspace
[18:45] <lime4x4> Ok how do i enable it? I found it but the arrow buttons do nothing
[18:46] <hitme666> i enabled it in system managment
[18:46] <famicom_> hitme666 check your xorg config
[18:46] <directhex> lime4x4, "m" to mute/unmute
[18:46] <directhex> iirc
[18:46] <hitme666> kk whats a name of a command line editor ?
[18:46] <directhex> nano
[18:46] <hitme666> kk
[18:46] <famicom_> VIM
[18:47] <famicom_> you heathens1
[18:49] <lime4x4> thanks one last ? anything i have to do in mythtv to make full use of the optical audio?
[18:53] <directhex> famicom_, lovely. now, you feel like teaching him the nuances of insert mode vs overwrite mode, rather than just using a "normal" self-evident editor?
[18:53] <directhex> lime4x4, yeah. two tickboxes hidden somewhere
[18:54] <directhex> lime4x4, to make it pass ac3 or dts audio straight to your amp. applies only where you have ac3/dts to pass through, of course
[18:55] <hitme666> how to kill the xserver ? he is sucking the whole cpu while blocking :/
[18:55] <directhex> ctrl-alt-backspace
[18:56] <directhex> or, from a console, invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[18:56] <hitme666> then the system crash, just tryed that ^^
[19:00] <lime4x4> well i have the optical cable from my mythtv box connected to a surround receiver
[19:14] <hitme666> where i find the xserver autoruns für the desctop ? like the mythbuntu front end?
[19:20] <lime4x4> this the sound card i have  NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
[19:21] <lime4x4> but alsamixer only shows a IEC958
[19:34] <zabadapp> hitme666: apps menu --> settings --> autostarted applications
[19:34] <hitme666> and per command line ?
[19:35] <hitme666> i can't get the desktop up right now, i am not sure why so i want to remove the auto start entrys from mythtv
[19:36] <zabadapp> look in ~/.config/autostart/
[19:39] <hitme666> or any idea ? i enabled the start spash screen and now system stucks at starting desktop
[19:52] <hitme666> or any idea ? i enabled the start spash screen and now system stucks at starting desktopsucker
[19:52] <hitme666> ups
[19:52] <hitme666> was for im ^^
[20:05] <hitme666> good evening tzb
[20:14] <tzb> hello
[20:17] <lime4x4> is there a setting some hwere that controls the volume of the optical digital output connection?
[20:20] <superm1> lime4x4, you change that on your receiver
[20:20] <superm1> not on the computer
[20:20] <superm1> the raw digital data is passed over optical
[20:21] <lime4x4> that's what i thought but when the volume is turned all the way up on the receiver it isn't very loud
[20:21] <lime4x4> unless there is another setting on my receiver somewhere
[20:21] <superm1> it is a digital source right
[20:21] <superm1> lke a dvd
[20:21] <lime4x4> no watching live tv
[20:21] <tzb> lime4x4, I thought the same thing. I have a digital SPDIF connection to my receiver, but I can change volume in myth and it will affect the volume.
[20:22] <lime4x4> i have the volume in myth set to max
[20:22] <superm1> lime4x4, well depending on your card you may be able to change some mixers in alsamixer
[20:22] <superm1> and have them affect it
[20:22] <superm1> if its a non digital source
[20:22] <lime4x4> i have everything in alsa set to max also
[20:23] <superm1> hm i'm not sure then.
[20:23] <lime4x4> i'll have to dig out the manual for the receiver and c if there is another adjustment somewhere
[20:26] <tzb> I am using ALSA with snd_hda_intel driver.  Myth settings:  Audio output device: ALSA:default.  Passthrough: ALSA:iec958 .  Mixer: ALSA:default.  Mixer Controls:PCM.
[20:27] <tzb> maybe using ALSA vs OSS is the difference, or perhaps it varies depending on your sound hardware.
[20:28] <hitme666> why i can find tv stations with kaffeine but not mythtv ? ^^
[20:29] <tzb> lime4x4, compare your setup to this, then use [ and ] in mythfrontend to adjust volume and see if it makes a difference
[20:30] <lime4x4> this is the device i'm using card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
[20:31] <lime4x4> but i will try your suugestion
[20:31] <tzb> lime4x4, maybe "ALSA:default" is the difference?
[20:31] <lime4x4> i think i have mine set to alsa:digital or alsa:spdf
[20:32] <tzb> hitme666, what signal strength are you getting?
[20:33] <lime4x4> the other thing i noticed was if i set the sound 5.1 i get no sound at all
[20:33] <hitme666> ~50%
[20:35] <tzb> hitme666, I recall an option in myth to not add channels less than a certain strength, checking....
[20:35] <lime4x4> come to think about it i also had to install linux-backport-module to get the sound to work..hardware too new for linux
[20:35] <tzb> lime4x4: maybe passthrough options?  I have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
[20:35] <lime4x4> so do i
[20:36] <hitme666> tzb, help lime first ;) i try to find a better antenna spot :).. muiltitacking is stess :P
[20:37] <tzb> ok
[20:37] <lime4x4> maybe i'll try and upgrade to the hardy version and c if it supports my sound card better
[20:38] <lime4x4> 00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 07fc (rev a1)
[20:38] <lime4x4> just about everything shows up as "unkown" under lspci
[20:42] <tzb> lime4x4, did you try the speaker-test command?  it has options to select alsa output device (default or digital in your case), and number of channels with -c  (stereo is 2 channels).  I've found it useful for testing/debugging.
[20:45] <tzb> sorry,   -D default   or    -D spdif
[20:45] <lime4x4> i will give that a try thanks
[21:04]  * hitme666 just build an antenna by himself ... now testing signal
[21:06] <hitme666> perfect pictures and all channels found now in koffeine .. trying mythtv
[21:10] <hitme666> tzb, thanks for helping me with card setup again, seems card and tuner was perfect, koffeine had everything tuned in
[21:16] <tzb> good stuff
[21:19] <hitme666> myth found channels
[21:26] <tzb> ok, working in watch tv now?
[21:26] <hitme666> no ^^ somehow i killed my fronend, reinstalling it now ^^
[21:28] <hitme666> now i watch ^^
[21:29] <hitme666> hw to watch on other pc?
[21:29] <hitme666> *how
[21:37] <tzb> I'm not very familiar with mythbuntu control centre, but in general there are a few things you need to setup or at least check...
[21:39] <tzb> 1. Make sure mysql is set to listen on your Ethernet card as well as the loopback.  This usually involves editing /etc/mysql/my.cnf and commenting out the "bind-address" line.  Good security practice would dictate setting a mysql root password at this point, but if you have a router/firewall and trust the machines on your LAN, it is not strictly necessary.
[21:41] <tzb> 2. In mythtv-setup, make sure you use non-loopback IP address for backend and master backend under general.  So not 127.0.0.1, but the address of your network card.  At this point, you should make sure to either use static IP addresses, or that your router/DHCP server always hands out a consistent dynamic address to your machines.
[21:41] <tzb> (really only necessary for your backend myth machine - your other box can use dynamic because it is just a client)
[21:42] <tzb> 3. Install mythfrontend on your other PC.  Make sure to use the same version of mythtv.  Doesn't need to be exact same distro, but don't try mixing 0.20 with 0.21 or it won't work.
[21:43] <hitme666> root pass is set anyway
[21:44] <hitme666> 1 check
[21:44] <hitme666> 2 check
[21:44] <hitme666> 3 ??? i wanted a network stream that also windows machines can read ^^
[21:45] <hitme666> like watching with web browser or like that
[21:46] <tzb> 4. Edit /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and setup DBHostName to match IP address of your mythbackend.  Technically it should be set to the hostname or IP address of your MySQL server, but that usually runs on the same box as the master backend.  Set the DBPassword to match the password of the mythtv MySQL user.  See the same file on the master backend.  If you are having trouble, delete/rename any...
[21:46] <tzb> ....mythtv/mysql.txt in your home dir of the user launching the frontend (normally I just let it access the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt one.
[21:46] <tzb> oh -sorry!
[21:46] <tzb> I think mythweb in 0.21 supports streaming of your recordings, but I haven't tested it yet.
[21:47] <tgm4883_laptop> you can stream from .21 mythweb
[21:47] <tgm4883_laptop> there is also a windows frontend
[21:47] <tzb> basically if you have mythweb installed on your backend box, open web browser to that machine, and enter mythweb.
[21:49] <tzb> I think apache2 by default listens on all interfaces, so it should just work if the mythweb plugin package is installed.
[21:49] <tzb> I know nothing about windows frontend, but it's probably worth a try.
[21:50] <hitme666> webprowser / options there give out an error
[21:50] <hitme666> Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/settings/tmpl/lite/welcome.php, line 29:
[21:51] <tzb> what's the rest of the msg?
[21:51] <hitme666> Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
[21:53] <hitme666> line is foreach ($Modules['settings']['links'] as $link => $name)
[21:56] <hitme666>     foreach ($Modules['settings']['links'] as $link => $name) {
[21:56] <hitme666> echo '    <li><a href="', root, $Modules['settings']['path'], '/', $link, '">', html_entities($name), "</a></li>\n";
[21:56] <hitme666> }
[22:04] <tzb> Never seen that.  Do you have any recordings made?  You can press "R" in Live TV mode to make a recording on the spot.
[22:04] <hitme666> not that i know of
[22:06] <tzb> yeah, so try it. I'm just guessing maybe there is a bug that crashes mythweb if you have nothing there.
[22:07] <hitme666> now even set the recording dirs jet becouse i don'T know where they have to be
[22:08] <tzb> default is /var/lib/mythtv/recordings  This is fine if you have a single partition for the OS and the recordings.
[22:21] <Nikas> on one of my frontend-machines xorg uses 90% CPU... known problem?
[22:22] <Nikas> using 0.21-fixes (trunk from mythbuntu.org)
[22:24] <superm1> not that i know of
[22:24] <superm1> 0.21 is being pushed around right now(final build)
[22:24] <superm1> so try with that as it hits mirrors tomorrow
[22:25] <Nikas> say what? :) final? Can i stay with trunk and do the upgrade from that?
[22:27] <Nikas> extasy: ;) Welcome!
[22:27] <extasy> thx :)
[22:28] <extasy> I hope the final will get rid of the  WriteAudio: buffer underrun I'm experincing now.
[22:28] <extasy> I'm on the weekly trunk now.
[22:29] <Nikas> superm1: I'm using trunk now. How do i change to .21 final when it comes?
[22:29] <superm1> Nikas, we're discussing it right now
[22:30] <superm1> it will be announced on mythbuntu.org as we figure out the best way to do it for people
[22:30] <superm1> there will be an official backport, and also a second method
[22:30] <Nikas> great!
[22:31] <extasy> Sounds good I'm removing the trunk from sources.list for now so I don't by acciedent get 0.22 svn ;)
[22:31]  * hitme666 is on phone
[22:32] <superm1> extasy, yeah see i think this is going to be a big source of confusion
[22:32] <superm1> i'm not sure the best way to attack the various different possible sources
[22:35] <Nikas> Just remove the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[22:36] <extasy> but I would expect that the final will be available in the usual repros?
[22:37] <superm1> well as users tell me what makes more sense to you
[22:37] <superm1> or most sense
[22:37] <superm1> having the normal -fixes suddenly get 0.21?
[22:37] <superm1> having a backport show up a few days from now?
[22:37] <superm1> having it show up on -trunk?
[22:40] <extasy> well I would be scared to install a trunk after the 0.21 release is out, I would not want to try the 0.22 before I had the 0.21 on my system and was getting sick of it. I would prefere either a backport or a dedicated source for the final update.
[22:41] <extasy> But as long as the info is out there on our second home from home mythforum I guess I'm fine ;)
[22:42] <superm1> hm okay
[22:42] <superm1> that's why i was reluctant to push it to say the normal trunk repo
[22:42] <superm1> and have people suddenly start getting trunk builds
[22:43] <extasy> I can understand that, but I do beleve that 0.20.2 users will be wanting to update to the 0.21 even thou they are not on the fixes nor the weekly list.
[22:46] <superm1> which is why an official backport should be the way to go.
[22:46] <superm1> well i think this is the plan then
[22:46] <superm1> push *one* build to trunk w/ final 0.21
[22:46] <superm1> and then do an official backport after its verified functional
[22:47] <extasy> sounds perfect
[22:47] <superm1> and then continue on with 0.22 builds on trunk
[22:47] <extasy> Will be more job for you.. but a better solution for us!
[22:47] <superm1> well even getting it to build on gutsy is bad enough.  there are some hardy specific things in the build already :)
[22:49] <extasy> not good :) one of my components I use for reading the subscription card for my tv service provider does not work for the 2.6.24 kernel :)
[22:49] <extasy> and can not be maipulated and still work ;)
[22:49] <superm1> why is htat?
[22:50] <extasy> sasc-ng will not compile on newer kernel then 2.6.22
[22:50] <extasy> and without it I can't watch the shows I'm paying for...
[22:51] <superm1> well you might want to talk to those folks then.
[22:51] <extasy> the only free2air we have here is the regime tv.
[22:51] <Nikas> I got it working. :)
[22:52] <hitme666> looks like i need this: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=440445
[22:52] <extasy> not really..
[22:54] <Nikas> well.. ok... i experienced hard locks but i dont know if that had to do with sasc-ng. :)
[22:54] <tzb> hitme666: I think mythweb is supposed to support streaming out of the box.
[22:54] <tzb> (with 0.21)
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> .21 does support streaming out of the box
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> via mythweb
[22:56] <superm1> well you need to have ffmpeg
[22:56] <superm1> that does mp3
[22:56] <hitme666> well tgm, how, i only able to stream my recordings
[22:56] <tzb> MythStreamTV looks like it has been abandoned, or perhaps moved to new site.
[22:57] <tzb> Question... It seems lirc 0.8.2 has a broken Serial IR Transmitter implementation, which fixed in the 0.8.3 pre-release.  On the boxes I support, I've been manually compiling lirc modules.  It works, but breaks with kernel upgrades, until it is recompiled.  Any other way to solve this?  Any plans to put new lirc modules into gutsy-updates or -backports?
[22:57] <superm1> tzb, actually yes
[22:57] <superm1> if you grab lirc-modules-source from hardy
[22:57] <superm1> it will rebuild itself on gutsy when you install it
[22:57] <superm1> via dkms
[22:57] <extasy> superm1, you are the dictonary when it comes to mythtv in my world, what would you say, Intel or AMD? and what do you thing about the X4500 GMA? would you think that the GM45chip from intel would be enough to run a box, or should I use nvidia instead?
[22:58] <tzb> superm1, I tried that, but it doesn't like the debconf version on gutsy.
[22:58] <hitme666> well if i would know how to, i even installed the windows mythtv player on my system now
[22:58] <superm1> extasy, i don't recommend hardware at all tbh.  that's why this thread was started: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566529
[22:58] <hitme666> he finds & played recordings but no live tv option
[22:58] <superm1> tzb, oh that's shameful.
[22:59] <fuhgawz> clear
[22:59] <tzb> superm1, I agree module-assistant is the way to go.  maybe I can hack around with it a bit.
[22:59] <superm1> tzb, well m-a support is gone in hardy
[22:59] <superm1> its only via dkms from then forward
[23:02] <tzb> superm1, I'll have to read up on dkms. thanks.
[23:02] <superm1> tzb, not much to read on it.  it does it all for you :)
[23:04] <hitme666> hmm somehow my web access hase problems with some stuff ...
[23:05] <Nikas> superm1: Do you know how to make mythweb not to ask for a password when i connect from the internal network? 192.168.1.*
[23:05] <tzb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/admin/dkms  ... nice "Homepage
[23:05] <tzb> http://linux.dell.com/dkms/
[23:05] <Nikas> or.. does someone know? :)
[23:06] <superm1> Nikas, i dont know
[23:06] <superm1> i dont mess with that stuff :)
[23:06] <Nikas> hehe ok
[23:06] <fuhgawz> i think that u should edit your .htaccess file
[23:07] <tzb> Nikas, you got me curious now. I might take a look. How did you setup the password in the first place?
[23:07] <Nikas> with mcc :) I got it working before my clean install but now i cant remember how.
[23:07] <Nikas> not using htaccess..
[23:07] <hitme666> tzb, i found the errors on web access, i changed the template from default to grey/lite .. who came with it
[23:08] <Nikas> i'm using mythweb every day and i want to get rid of the password box and the extra click needed to get in ;)
[23:08] <tzb> hitme666, so working now?
[23:09] <Nikas> and i need password for external access.. i dont know if i switched to .htaccess/.htpasswd to make it work the last time.. it has to be any solution to make it work with apache's protection?
[23:09] <hitme666> only web access, no live tv stream
[23:09] <hitme666> but web access itsself is fixed (the errors i had)
[23:11] <Nikas> With htaccess: http://home.golden.net/htaccess.html (Restricting by IP Address)
[23:12] <tzb> Nikas, you are using a password in the .htaccess inside /var/www/mythweb/ ?
[23:13] <Nikas> tzb: hmmm
[23:13] <Nikas> AuthUserFile       /etc/mythtv/mythweb-digest
[23:14] <Nikas> but yes.. i have .htaccess at that location
[23:14] <tzb> Nikas, I'm just asking. trying to understand what you did to get to this point.
[23:16] <hitme666> well my status now: no live TV streams to other systems and webbrowser stream of recordings = no sound
[23:16] <tzb> so, all you did was edit the .htaccess in that directory to setup the password.  do you have a <Limit GET POST>  require valid-user  </Limit>  ?
[23:17] <Nikas> i dont remember :D
[23:17] <Nikas> but no.. i dont have
[23:17] <Nikas> that one
[23:17] <Nikas> or.. yes
[23:18] <Nikas> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5450/
[23:18] <tzb> hitme666, I don't think you can stream live via mythweb 0.21.  You should use a frontend for that.
[23:18] <tzb> hitme666, for the sound issue, did you install ffmpeg?
[23:19] <hitme666> i used the windows fronend, only able to play recorings
[23:19] <tgm4883_laptop> hitme666, there is live tv support
[23:19] <hitme666> ffmpeg is there, not sure if config
[23:19]  * tgm4883_laptop honestly doesn't know why people watch live tv anymore
[23:19] <tgm4883_laptop> it's so last century
[23:19] <hitme666> lol
[23:19] <tzb> tgm, live tv in mythweb?
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> tzb, sorry
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> that comment was unfinished
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> in the windows frontend
[23:20] <tzb> ah yes. ok
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> i believe it is 5.1
[23:20] <tzb> nikas, I see where auth is enabled in .htaccess.
[23:21] <hitme666> i have mythtv player 0.4.1 for widnoes now, is there a another application ?
[23:21] <tzb> basically a symlink to /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess. this is good.  now, I have an idea.
[23:21] <Nikas> well.. got it working
[23:22] <rhpot1991> hitme666: live tv is in 0.5.0
[23:22] <rhpot1991> there is a link on the main page to the forums where you can get a zip file
[23:23] <hitme666> got a link somewhere ? ^^
[23:23] <rhpot1991> http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=5&cntnt01origid=15&cntnt01returnid=15
[23:23] <tzb> nikas, what did you do?
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop> hitme666, I have a link, google.com
[23:24] <hitme666> lol ;)
[23:24] <rhpot1991> hitme666: the author has told me there are some bugs in it that he never got a chance to work out
[23:24] <Nikas> tzb: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5451/
[23:24] <rhpot1991> hitme666: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Play_Recordings_On_Windows_From_MythWeb
[23:24] <rhpot1991> that might be of interest to you
[23:25] <extasy> superm1, I presume there will still be a weekly fix release for 0.21?
[23:25] <superm1> extasy, well that is where things get confusing
[23:25] <superm1> probably not until we start hardy weekly fixes
[23:25] <hitme666> thanks :D works! ^^
[23:26] <tzb> nikas, good stuff. you might want Limit POST GET.  (POST as well as GET)
[23:26] <extasy> okej. so they will not be made for 7.10? or will they be ported?
[23:26] <Nikas> tzb: True :)
[23:26] <tzb> nikas, so that works for remote sites - asks password, but no password for local sites?
[23:27] <tzb> sorry connections I should say
[23:27] <Nikas> tzb: yep.. tried that from one of my remote servers on another provider :)
[23:27] <Nikas> the thing is that mythweb are saving the personal settings with the username that i used when logging in
[23:28] <tzb> nikas, saves in cookies for me
[23:28] <superm1> extasy, weeklies of 0.21 will not be made for 7.10.  there will be one 0.21 for 7.10
[23:29] <extasy> rodger that!!!! I need to try to file a ticket for this kernel issue then somehow..
[23:29] <Nikas> tzb: not for me. When i'm using my phone it sets the wap-theme and when i returns home and tries mythweb with my normal browser it's using the wap-theme. i have to go in to the db and change the theme there
[23:30] <superm1> extasy, file it with upstream, that product isn't discussed or supported in ubuntu okay?
[23:30] <tzb> nikas, still now with the change?
[23:31] <extasy> yes I know, I will not mention it again here...
[23:31] <extasy> It is however a nessessity to watch chanels here and it's not disallowed by law here..
[23:31] <Nikas> tzb: i dont know.. i have to login with my phone and the settings gets saved in mythweb_sessions in the db :/
[23:31] <extasy> not even breaking the contract with our tv provider.. :)
[23:32] <Nikas> id = user:niklas
[23:36] <bazhang> any PPC builds for Mythbuntu?
[23:39] <superm1> bazhang, we dont have hardware to develop on to do them
[23:39] <superm1> so unfortunately not
[23:39] <bazhang> superm1: aha well thanks ;]
[23:39] <superm1> bazhang, if you want to help with the port though....
[23:39] <superm1> :)
[23:40] <tzb> more than just myth, does ubuntu still have ppc ports?
[23:40] <bazhang> superm1: be happy too--just need to learn how to code first ;]
[23:40] <bazhang> tzb sure
[23:41] <superm1> bazhang, well a majority of it is actually architecture independent
[23:41] <superm1> its mostly the build scripts that would need porting
[23:41] <superm1> which are mostly shell
[23:42] <bazhang> superm1: well I would love to help anyway I can; I have several PPC boxes lying around; just have no real clue on to do that--though very willing to learn if pushed in the right direction ;]
[23:42] <tzb> bazhang, I don't see PPC on Ubuntu's download page for the past couple of releases. I thought it was dropped.
[23:42] <superm1> bazhang, okay well for starters, you ever used bazaar?
[23:42] <superm1> eg bzr
[23:42] <bazhang> tzb you need a link?
[23:43] <bazhang> superm1: well I did sit in on #ubuntu-classroom ;]
[23:43] <superm1> bazhang, okay so using bazaar you can download a copy of our livedisk branch
[23:43] <superm1> its how the livedisk gets built
[23:43] <bazhang> the bzr tutorial that is
[23:43] <superm1> and you can try to run it and see where it's broke on PPC
[23:43] <superm1> for all we know it might just work already
[23:43] <tzb> bazhang, sure, although I am mostly just curious.
[23:44] <superm1> i made the seeds ppc supported
[23:44] <superm1> and mythtv builds buildfor ppc already
[23:44] <bazhang> superm1: okay thanks; will google for it cheers ;]
[23:44] <superm1> bazhang, code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu
[23:44] <superm1> you'll find the branch there
[23:44] <superm1> directions on howto build the live disk are included in the README on the branch
[23:44] <bazhang> superm1: sweet! thanks for the link! ;]
[23:44] <bazhang> downloading now ;]
[23:45] <superm1> bazhang, please keep a log of the build if you'd like to debug it (and it doesnt work off the box)
[23:45] <superm1> but if it does, drop in #ubuntu-mythtv-dev and let us know
[23:45] <bazhang> superm1: okay will do! ;] thanks!
[23:47] <hitme666> ok another dumb question, hot to create file acciations (like opening avi's with vlc)
[23:48] <tzb> bazhang, nevermind I found the ports page.  also HP PA-RISC, IA-64, PS3 - wow!