[00:03] nalioth >> more of the same * TalikA (n=talik@84.47.245.157) has left #ubuntu (requested by ompaul) [00:03] * ompaul sets ban on *!*@84.47.245.157 [00:03] ompaul: does your client have the '10 minute quiet' setting? [00:03] not with you? [00:03] ompaul, Think you should set one on the name TalikA too ? [00:04] remvoe the ban after 10 cos it is klined? [00:04] ompaul: it halps with the tab completion :| [00:04] ompaul: and yes [00:04] Jack_Sparrow, no it will use another name and proxy in 10 mins [00:04] or less than 10 [00:04] nalioth, na but I will look after it [00:05] Ok, thought it had repeated that name more than once [00:05] Jack_Sparrow, if so then feel free to do so [00:06] Jack_Sparrow, if that is the case op up once and hit all the nicks that it has cycled though today [00:09] Ok, But it is time for a nap.... bbl [00:12] !modes [00:12] There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [00:15] Seeker` called the ops in #ubuntu (llama123456789) [00:22] ompaul: even though this is not a support channel, its nice to know someone is actually watching over me :), thanx [00:23] hehe [00:25] wait, dont tell me... /part [00:26] Mez: Connection problems? [00:27] ompaul: Is tonight particularly bad for weird people, or do I usually not pay enough attention to notice them? [00:28] Seeker`, the latter methinks - it is friday which is a good day for it [00:28] depends on how you define good :P [00:29] Seeker`, I now have that nice person in pm [00:30] which nice person? [00:33] sorry about Floodbot2's downtime. it was planned [00:33] * Mez yawns [00:34] Seeker`, the one which was warned off then removed [00:36] ompaul: ah, fun [00:37] the guy that was asking about fedora? [00:37] Seeker`, na the other party - the one who was not discouraging them [00:38] Seeker`, then played both sides of a coin at the same time - baiting me which worked and tried to be good in channel at the same time [00:38] NinjaPlimsoles? [00:39] Seeker`, yeap and I wonder was he one part of a double act [00:39] see last q for someone who is on their first day on ubuntu that is a rich question [00:39] ompaul: what makes you think that? [00:41] there was only 4 mins between them joining [00:42] ompaul: If you mean eatatjones [00:42] yeap [00:42] hmm, ninja just appeared in -uk [00:44] Seeker`, popey can ddeal with it [00:44] Mez: I can deal with it too :) [00:44] Seeker`, watch it [00:45] Seeker`, but you're going to bed [00:45] am I? [00:45] i thought i saw you saying you were somewhere [00:45] lol [00:46] Mez: I said i'm beginning to get tired - I'm going to be really geeky and wait up and watch star trek [00:46] ah fair enough [00:46] i should go bed now [00:46] got a long day on sunday [00:46] nn [00:46] i didnt say i was going to [00:46] lol [00:47] Mez: :P [00:47] Mez: good long day or bad long day? [00:47] Seeker`, day in bed with new gf [00:47] so very good [00:47] popey is back :/ [00:47] yes, he is [00:47] Mez: oooh :P [00:48] I was getting excited when he quit, thought we were done with him. [00:48] * Mez pets popey and hopes his server is ok [00:48] PriceChild, nah, his server was being moved to a new Power supply [00:48] same as me... i just came back quicker [00:52] is this channel considered to be offtopic? <-- sighs [00:52] Mez, do o4o that will help him go over the line and get banned ;-) [00:52] I reckon we have to be a bit careful with him [00:53] ompaul, he's in a loco channel [00:53] it works there too [00:53] and names that channel [00:53] :-> [00:53] }:-> even [00:54] * Mez pokes an o4o his way [01:04] I am off out of there I figure you will get more obvious trolling now [01:04] night [01:20] "lol" [01:20] lo LjL [01:20] [01:18:07] hi, the powers that be over at #kubuntu-ops pointed me here (I feel I'm being watched), so let me ask: I am having a problem installing kubuntu-kde4 alpha 6 via the LAN. the option to install the desktop is missing [01:21] o.O [01:22] LjL: Is the floodbot source still "classified" [01:24] yeah [01:24] k [02:19] nickrud: I don't think there's need for a ban. [02:19] He won't be back, and it just clogs the list. [02:19] PriceChild: I clear all but the egregious ones after 24 hrs [02:19] k k [02:30] My uni just elected a pirate as president. [02:30] arr? [02:31] was announced an hour ago... there's already people shouting on the radio, a couple of facebook groups/petitions and just general angry people [02:32] Surely if s/he was elected, a majority voted for them [02:32] 9,000 in the uni, 3,000 voted, he got 52% [02:32] (3 candidates) [02:33] * PriceChild finds his manifesto [02:33] sounds like more of a majority than a debian election anyway [02:34] can't find it [02:34] but they included... "cutlasses for all" [02:35] "destroy half of the central bridge across the lake, then force the lecturers to 'walk the plank'" [02:36] sounds like the voters are fun-loving nihilists :) [02:37] http://pastebin.ca/933081 [02:51] I'd probably have voted for him in my university days, the the usual candidates were so humorless and earnest [03:08] is tor only banned in #ubuntu? [03:08] Seeker`: it isn't banned in #ubuntu [03:08] !tor-gpg | Seeker` [03:08] Seeker`: You can use tor and still access #ubuntu and other channels that have tor blocked. How? Read http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor to find out how to bypass all the tor hassles on freenode. [03:10] ah, I thought it was [03:11] its blocked, unless you set up tor-tpt [03:57] In #xubuntu, PlayBoy said: ubotu: My card is free driver since feisty version... [03:58] ubotu: tell playboy about bot [04:00] kinky. [04:01] jdong: down boy [04:01] PriceChild: you know what fevers do ;-) [04:40] nickrud: bossmanbeta is an -uncensored guy... not having this, [04:40] ok. glad you took over, personally [04:51] not sure what channel he was invited from, cba to figure it out tonight [04:56] seems a sane guy [04:56] just pulled into it [04:57] it's not an insane position, just a futile one. [04:57] nickrud: if you see others like that, just mute and discuss it in PM/send in here. They are pulling people into that channel, and being alarmist. [04:57] If it would have been me, I would probably have done the same as him. [04:58] A nice polite conversation in PM, remove the mute and everyone's happy. [04:58] hm. I'm banned from it. Wanted to talk to emma before the last blowup happened. [06:04] Hobbsee: I understand you did some web host research recently. I'm feeling open to be talked to on the subject after tonight. [06:49] tonyyarusso: mmm? OK [06:53] In #ubuntu, foo said: !ops Thanatos is spamming on join [06:56] Thanatos appears to be a troll, or a bot. /me tries to tell [06:56] * Hobbsee doesn't seem to get the on-join spam... [06:57] Hobbsee: A part of me is thinking that he's a troll who grabbed my name on autojoin. I don't think he's a bot, his messages seem to be at irregular intervals. [06:57] it's showing as xchat. starnge [06:57] perhaps os [06:58] Hm, then yeah, I'm going to vouch for a troll. Anyways, I'll just /ignore him, unless you think it necessarily to take action (which I don't think you would in this case) [07:04] I saw him in a pm, told him it wasn't polite to pm without permission. I haven't heard from him since. He's now andre [07:04] * foo seconds that [07:05] 23:04 It's not polite to PM, please stop [07:05] 23:05 you fool [07:05] hmm. [07:05] ditto, exactly [07:05] 23:05 you big fat [07:05] just now [07:07] 23:06 :/ [07:07] 23:06 sia anjing [07:07] 23:06 you dog [07:07] * foo thinking troll [07:08] sia anjinga(YOU DOG) [07:08] hmm [07:08] I think I'll kick, see what he does [07:08] nickrud: Thank you :) [07:08] * Hobbsee tries pm'ing [07:08] so I wait [07:08] * foo loves the organization with ops for this channel [07:09] pecking order foo [07:09] I've been an op for #mandrake back in the day, and #mandriva, and I am with a few other smaller channels ... and I believe this is the way it should be done [07:09] Jono doesn't hang around in here does he? [07:09] no [07:09] he does occasionally [07:09] but not this channel [07:09] ah, nice. ohh, I see [07:10] * foo has seen him at SCALE the past few years [07:10] meant to make scale, but had to work on short notice [07:10] ah, nickrud, you in the area around SCALE? [07:10] bummer [07:10] I work right by LAX [07:11] planned on leaving my car in the lot there (have a card) and walk to scale from there [07:11] was looking forward to his keynote [07:12] Ah, sweet. May I PM you? [07:12] sure [07:12] Thanks [07:16] Hm, don't think I should idle here. Catch you folks later :) Thanks again - [07:17] ubotu: ping [07:17] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [07:18] good. [07:18] haha [07:18] * foo straps on parachute and bails [07:19] he's nice [07:23] Hobbsee: so, was andre reasonable? [07:23] he was asking me what my name was, etc. [07:25] hai what is yoor name ? [07:26] * Hobbsee has no name. [07:26] saves ink I guess [07:27] ok, silence until I said peanut butter, then I get back SIA ANJING KU AING [07:27] ABONG KABOGOHNA SI IZZA ANU PANG HIDEUNGNA SA DUNIA [07:27] ooookay then... [08:59] haha wth is this place? [09:00] anyways.. I am bored [09:00] so I guess I should talk to an op [09:01] it's sort of ignorant of you guys to ban someone for saying RTFM.. especially since I help a lot of people in that channel [09:02] the way we help people is we rtfm and then we get the info and give it to them [09:02] that is all [09:03] give the specifics to the person [09:03] you google they don't [09:03] thats all [09:03] that's naive [09:03] no that is the way the ubuntu help system has worked for the last couple of years [09:03] you guys breast feed them.. [09:03] then they keep coming back for more questions [09:03] the good ones end up helping [09:03] people should learn to find answers... "learn" to find answers [09:03] that is not the way in this space [09:04] those who want to learn will [09:04] sleepster: I've been helping here for years, as as ompaul. We do know what works [09:04] whatever you say chief [09:04] sleepster, I have been helping on irc in *nx channels since the early nineties [09:05] even in places called #nohelp :) [09:06] sleepster, I'll let you back in, but if you are not going to give complete help then please observe [09:06] most of the everyday stuff is on the wiki [09:06] its ok.. u don't have you [09:06] do /msg ubotu search foo and you will find a reasonable [09:06] answer [09:06] we try not to chase away people by talking over their heads. or implying that because they are clueless they are useless [09:07] sleepster, I have seen a guy go from no use to developer in there on more than one occasion [09:08] sleepster, we know what we are at - growing the GNU/Linux community one step at a time - it is not a private club where TLAs do the business - we try to lower the barriers to access as much as possible [09:08] the motivation is simple - get people on the platform then they are empowered [09:09] !bug 1 [09:09] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [09:09] For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents [09:09] ompaul: you're talking over my head, what's a TLA [09:09] three letter abbr [09:09] ivation [09:09] * nickrud throws bricks [09:09] * ompaul gathers nickrud's lego and gives it to bazhang [09:10] sleepster, there ya go [09:10] I'll remove that ban now [09:10] sleepster, done [09:22] thanks.. but I am still banning me from #ubuntu until I learned the ubuntu ways [09:22] and until sleepster learns those rules.. [09:23] I am keeping him away from the innocent feeble minds of ubuntians [09:23] ok [09:23] is there anything else we can help? [09:24] no.. I am fine thanks [09:28] * ompaul points to the topic [09:29] I'm off out for breakfast [09:44] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (jonathan2) [10:19] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (jwdnho) [10:21] just set a ban on jwdnho for - < jwdnho> archman: i have a hardon for your mama <--- someone might wanna log it in your ban tracker [10:28] Moshe called the ops in #ubuntu (Flynsarmy) [10:28] Moshe called the ops in #ubuntu (archman) [10:28] Moshe called the ops in #ubuntu (bazhang) [10:28] I have a ban that I would like lifted. [10:29] disturbance in the chat room [10:29] somebody named Moshe keeps calling !ops on everyone [10:29] theunixgeek: I see [10:29] I kf'd herer [10:30] hello.... [10:31] !ops | Ljl [10:31] Ljl: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [10:31] Moshe called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (Ljl) [10:32] Moshe: yes? [10:32] !ops | me [10:32] me: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [10:32] Moshe called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (me) [10:32] !ops | Moshe [10:32] Moshe, wtf are you doing? [10:32] !botabuse > Moshe [10:32] mez are you an OP, cause that is no way to talk to anyone [10:32] @btlogin [10:32] Laughed, an we help you? [10:33] can * [10:33] I have been wrongfully banned and I would like it lifted [10:33] strange. i wonder if the guy has had a bit too much red cordial or something [10:33] Laughed, who banned you [10:34] DOn know, one of your ops who wanted to flex his muscles. apparently he didnt like that I was an ATI user [10:34] lol one of the free software crusaders [10:34] I dont know what that means, ugeek [10:35] a *lot* too much red cordial, it looks like [10:35] * Hobbsee looks up Laughed's ban [10:35] Laughed: under what nickname / IP was the ban? [10:35] Laughed: ATI won't open up its drivers. Some people hate that. [10:35] this one [10:35] I just needed help. it turned out it wasnt an ATI issue [10:35] theunixgeek: if there's nothing else we can do for you, we like to keep the channel free of idlers [10:35] it was actually somethign else [10:36] I needed to remove splash from the boot line [10:36] stdin: okeydoke [10:36] Something Sparrow, jack [10:36] * Hobbsee sighs, looks up full logs [10:36] yeah, i found the quiet. which is a) not a ban. [10:37] and b) appears to already be removed. [10:37] who me??? [10:37] yes, you. [10:37] I just tried to log in and it said i was banned [10:37] ah, hang on [10:37] it's swapped from a ban to a quiet [10:37] er, other way aorund [10:38] is your nick a play on calvin and hobbs [10:39] no, its a play on her surnam [10:39] e [10:39] k, brb [10:40] no, it's not. [10:43] * Hobbsee sigh [10:43] Laughed: i'd suspect that most people's ATI cards work, by the way. No need to say that they all don't, when you've only tried yours [10:43] Laughed: also, senses of entitlement "you must help me, because i dared to install your operating system of choice" also don't go down well [10:44] hmm, thats all good and well. but I never said that, implied or otherwise [10:45] [22:02] I came here for help [10:45] [22:02] I came here for help [10:45] gah [10:45] [22:02] Laughed, if everyone was as demanding as you, no one would be helped [10:45] [22:02] gralco: Hold on... [10:46] [22:02] kenro: you got that right [10:46] [22:02] 1815 ive been here for an hour [10:46] [22:02] I didnt realize there was a number i was supposed to take [10:46] [22:02] Laughed, and there are 1246 people here [10:46] [22:02] or a line i was supposed to get [10:46] your missing entries [10:46] [22:03] okay where is the line [10:46] [10:46] and I came here for help [10:46] yeah. want the full log? [10:46] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/05/%23ubuntu.txt [10:46] Sure [10:46] so did most of the other poeple there. [10:46] you got at least some help. [10:47] so why am / was I being given a hard time for it [10:47] * Hobbsee didn't want to spam out the channel with too many lines [10:47] it seemed I was being givne a hard time because I am an ATI user [10:47] because demanding people help you won't get you overly far. [10:47] no, not really. how many people in that channel do you think know about advanced ati issues anyway? [10:47] most cards just work [10:48] how many people would have been able to figure out it was just a matter of deleting plash"from the boot line [10:48] splash [10:48] probably not a lot - especially as that only works for some people. [10:48] and why mangle with the options, if it happens to work for them [10:49] I dont get the last point [10:49] you ceratinly got help, from those forum threads you were given. apparently they worked. [10:49] No [10:49] mangling with grub.conf, with taking out splash [10:49] I actually found the answer in a thread that was a year old. It was a thread / post I created [10:49] when I first tried using ubuntu a year ago [10:50] So I am not sure what articles you think helped me [10:50] and no one in this chat room gave me a thread to the forums [10:50] well, you clearly got your answer somewhere [10:50] yes i did [10:51] and I have more questions [10:51] is this not where I should be to get those questions answered??? [10:51] Stuar[T] called the ops in #ubuntu (Lartza_) [10:51] Stuar[T] called the ops in #ubuntu (prince_jammys) [10:52] Dealing with Sparrow,Jack was more about him exhibiting power, control... not about finding a resolution or common ground... not like our conversation here [10:52] Stuar[T] called the ops in #ubuntu (Javid) [10:52] damn people on the koolaid again [10:52] blimet [10:52] -y* [10:53] lol [10:53] are moshe and stuar[t] the same person, btw? [10:54] probable [10:54] they're acting in the same brain-deaded way [10:54] s/e/y/ [10:56] * Hobbsee pinches the alcohol. [10:56] you should dry your fingers off. You dont want to mess up your keyboard [10:58] You are banned from #ubuntu [10:58] :-( [10:59] --> MohammadBoozary (n=Mohammad@91.186.209.75) has joined #ubuntu [10:59] Laughed: i'm happy to lift the ban, but please remember that a lot of people wan't help, most people in there don't know the answers to all problems, and that you may find a better solution using another method of support (see ubuntu.com/support) [11:00] Copy [11:00] :-D [11:01] hmm? [11:03] Seveas: hah. i thought that might be coming. [11:03] Hobbsee, :) [11:03] Seveas: especially after the mac sales.... [11:11] alabamas called the ops in #ubuntu (prince_jammys) [11:12] not again!! [11:12] what is *with* these people today? [11:12] * Gary passes Hobbsee a mug of hot chocolate [11:12] hehe, thanks [11:13] i think i'll get my kickban quota for the next month doing this [11:13] Gary: is this guy just using continuous proxies? [11:14] yeah, he'll be next to impossible to keep off the network, by the looks of it [11:15] Gary: want to start klining him or something then? [11:15] * Gary cannot do them yet :'( [11:15] ah [11:32] johnhoseloa called the ops in #ubuntu (mnemo) [11:32] jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (johnhoseloa) [11:33] help.... [11:33] johnhoseloa called the ops in #ubuntu (jpatrick) [11:33] shit ban list full [11:33] !ops | clear ban list [11:33] clear ban list: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [11:33] Amaranth called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (clear ban list) [11:33] Amaranth: he's back [11:34] arg fucking xchat-gnome and it's lack of banlist [11:34] Amaranth: +R the channel [11:35] I am taking extreme measures here while I install xchat [11:35] Where the hell did the other ops go? [11:38] mario galaxy? Seveas hehe, thats like for ten year olds [11:39] Seveas: I feel sorry for those irssi users [11:39] Amaranth: why? [11:39] ban management [11:40] thats the problem I have [11:40] irssi wins on so much, yet fails at a few things [11:41] xchat-gnome is the same :P [11:41] i now have Amaranth_ in #ubuntu with xchat [11:41] i'm on the work laptop (windows) irssi in putty/screen [11:42] work lappy is ultraportable :-) [11:42] Seveas: can you write a chanserv.py for irssi please :-) [11:43] there's already ban.pl [11:44] I have auto_bleh.pl, but no idea except /ab and /at on how to use it [11:45] Gary: what version of auto_bleh.pl? [11:45] tomaws one [11:46] Gary: I use no0tic's and it's pretty useful: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58861/ [11:48] could someone please unban me? I was kicked and banned yesterday because of a tab completion error. [11:49]