[00:00] <amenado> Icemansan-> try it
[00:00] <prince_jammys> ubuntu compatible gamepad
[00:00] <mandrig> Can anyone help me with my sound?
[00:00] <AntiUSA> i've been googling my ass off man
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Traveler8, Please try to add some more detail to your question.
[00:00] <icesword> amenado, k
[00:01] <jaloriojalorio> ggg
[00:01] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: search for gamepad on these pages: http://linuxconsole.sourceforge.net/input/hardware.html http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Hardware-HOWTO/other.html
[00:01] <eguzkia> hello i have problem i cannot surf in internet
[00:02] <eguzkia> but i can use p2p progams
[00:02] <Traveler8> Jack_Sparrow, ok sorry : i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc)
[00:02] <eguzkia> someone can help me
[00:02] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: I would recommend searching the forums for what not to buy if all else fails
[00:02] <TalikA> :D
[00:02] <TalikA> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[00:02] <TalikA> me fucky fucky Jesus' mom
[00:02] <TalikA> :)
[00:02] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: form the looks of it it seems that a lot are compatible.  you're right though, it's not easy to find an actual list
[00:02] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: an example search would be "gamepad problems"
[00:03] <Ax-Ax> i need help with cli.. how do i tell find to delete all folders (with conten) with the name "a" in a folder?
[00:03] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: http://linuxgamingtoday.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/install-and-use-usb-based-gamepads-in-ubuntu/ may help
[00:03] <Traveler8> rm a* ?
[00:03] <gribouille> hi
[00:04] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:04] <AntiUSA> thanks man, that is very helpful
[00:05] <Traveler8> need help: i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc)
[00:05] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: go to the store, see one you like and then IN the store google "ubuntu model_of_gamepad" to double check :)
[00:06] <iRRVi> <-------- back
[00:06] <AntiUSA> i'm ordering online prince ;)
[00:06] <prince_jammys> ah, even easier
[00:06] <AntiUSA> i was hoping to find one that is really high quality like the Saitek P3200
[00:07] <iRRVi> how do i compile a kernel module i made myself? I am following a guide but when i run "make" it gives me errors about unknown processor family
[00:07] <bloody`> hey guys ,my laptop just froze, xubuntu, does it in ubuntu, for no reason i know of.
[00:08] <ompaul> bloody`, check your ram with a live cd and memtest
[00:08] <bloody`> I did, its fine. just bought it, too.
[00:08] <Traveler8> need help: i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc).
[00:08] <bloody`> runs vista fine(ram whore)
[00:08] <beast> is there any way i can get my atheros wireless card working in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy???
[00:08] <AntiUSA> JESUS! man, someone of these gamepads look like theyshouldn't exist
[00:08] <iRRVi> bloody`: ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[00:08] <ompaul> !language
[00:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:09] <bloody`> irrvi: doesn't work. need to hold my power button
[00:09] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: yeah :P There's this pathetic joystick thing I saw at a store, you clip it to your keyboard over top of the directional arrow keys
[00:09] <bloody`> irrvi: it also lags at boot, takes a few mins to boot
[00:09] <AntiUSA> hahahahah
[00:09] <iRRVi> bloody`: don't know mine does that too sometimes...and i'd bet some driver isnt compat with you laptop
[00:10] <beast> is there any way i can get my atheros wireless card working in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy???
[00:10] <bloody`> can I check logs ? or make my boot not lag?
[00:10] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, check which logs?
[00:10] <bloody`> any?
[00:10] <bloody`> to see why its freezing?
[00:10] <D-Unit> Jack_Sparrow, its the default drivers there and it works for me 2 but for a certain period of time; it could be days or like 30 minutes
[00:11] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: yeah that model you mentioned seems riskier since it's brand new
[00:11] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:11] <bloody`> grib: no
[00:11] <AntiUSA> yah none of the pads I want look like they are supported
[00:12] <AntiUSA> this sucks
[00:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, boot with the -v flag and it will display all the steps its doing to boot your system
[00:12] <physioman> they aren;t so advanced coders to even imagine to edit openoffice just for their ubuntu thingie
[00:12] <bloody`> just add -v to the end of the line in grub?
[00:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, just hit F2 as its booting
[00:13] <bloody`> and what about the freezing?
[00:13] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:13] <bloody`> thanks, and the freezing?
[00:13] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, youll then see why its freezing and we can help you further :)
[00:13] <purepwnage> NinjaPlimsoles: iirc f2 for verbose was disabled ubuntu boot
[00:13] <bloody`> it doesn't freeze at boot, it just lags
[00:13] <bloody`> it frezzes when im running in a gui
[00:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, lags? O.o
[00:14] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:14] <bloody`> yes, it takes about 4 mins to boot
[00:14] <n2diy>  Firefox locked up on me, what's the command to kill it?
[00:14] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: hey i finally just went ahead and formatted my internal HD into 2 paritions and used one for XP and one for Ubuntu since i found out my laptop doesnt allow 'boot from usb' which could explain our problem. But do you have a list of good apps for Linux and/or how to actually install stuff in linux?
[00:14] <Starnestommy> n2diy: try kill $(pidof firefox-bin)
[00:14] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, LOL! nice to see you back dude! so THATS why you had error 21?
[00:14] <bloody`> n2: killall firefox will work
[00:14] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  haha yeah
[00:14] <llama123456789> hi
[00:14] <bloody`> sudo'd
[00:15] <n2diy> thanks
[00:15] <hitme> good evening
[00:15] <arcad3> nobody can help me?
[00:15] <llama123456789> i love to lick penis
[00:15] <Seeker`> !ops | llama123456789
[00:15] <ubotu> llama123456789: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[00:15] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:15] <hitme> omg where i joined here ...
[00:15] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: so simple, yet so hard to detect
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Remove quiet and splash and look to see where it is lagging on boot.  Do the other things suggested to see why it is freezing.  Your experience is not normal.  Line after line complaining about freezing does not help you or us to help you
[00:15] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, you can install stuff in Linux by either downloading a Ubuntu .deb file, or use apt-get in a terminal emulator :)
[00:16] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:16] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, you can even install .rpm's :)
[00:16] <bloody`> jack: thanks, will do
[00:16] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:16] <ompaul> !hi | hitme
[00:16] <orudie> uwhich command is used for setting permissions for users ?
[00:16] <ubotu> hitme: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:16] <arcad3> !ipmasq
[00:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipmasq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:16] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  thanks, do u have any websites on "linux for idiots" and any for good apps for linux
[00:17] <arcad3> !iptables
[00:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:17] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  for example a good IRC program (since i'm using chatzilla right now)
[00:17] <orudie> !chmod
[00:17] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[00:17] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, i personally use X-chat for IRC stuff
[00:17] <ryan_mandelbaum> orudie, go to the terminal and do "sudo nautilus"
[00:17] <arcad3> ogh
[00:17] <n2diy> killall firefox didn't work, how do I find the pid?
[00:17] <ompaul> orudie, that was bad advice
[00:17] <arcad3> how can i share my inet connection from an ubuntu server?
[00:17] <ompaul> ryan_mandelbaum, please never suggest that again thanks
[00:18] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:18] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, 'good apps' is very subjective to my personal taste :) open source is all about choice! so embrace being able to choose
[00:18] <orudie> ompaul: how can i edit user permissions then ?
[00:18] <arcad3> chown
[00:18] <hitme> hmm is anz1 to help a mythbuntu/ubuntu n00b some ?
[00:18] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay thats why i was wondering on the whole install thing cause i was having issues installing x chat earlier
[00:18] <ompaul> orudie, chown as arcad3 said
[00:18] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:18] <PriceChild> ryan_mandelbaum: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[00:19] <orudie> ompaul: huh ?
[00:19] <Seeker`> hitme: I think the mythtv help channel is #ubuntu-mythtv
[00:19] <hitme> i am there also
[00:19] <ompaul> orudie, sudo chown if you have to - never touch the ones outside your own home directory - you will break your system -- man chown https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:19] <hitme> but i think i also have fome general problems
[00:19] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, what kind of issues? :)
[00:19] <hitme> nor myth specific
[00:19] <eatatjoes2> i went to xchat website
[00:20] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: then clicked the "fedora/linux" and all the rpms are dead links i think?
[00:20] <arcad3> ipmqsq should make the roting and internet sharing for me...
[00:20] <Seeker`> !ask | hitme
[00:20] <ubotu> hitme: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:20] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, fedora applications are offtopic for here thanks
[00:20] <hitme> like: resolution jumping back on every reboot, german layout dosn|T stay, dvb-t card problems(saa7134)
[00:20] <NinjaPlimsoles> ompaul, please crawl back under your rock and dont topicjump.... 2nd time
[00:21] <hitme> system is ubuntu 8.04 aplha
[00:21] <bloody`> jack: well removing spash and quiet from grub sped it up to normal speed. now for the freezing? which logs could I check for errors?
[00:21] <hitme> (i think)
[00:21] <arcad3> is there any .deb or some soft that.s gonna help me?
[00:21] <arcad3> to share my interenet connectoin?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> NinjaPlimsoles, PLease stop that
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, dmesg   I think.. but that isnt my area...
[00:22] <Seeker`> hitme: what version does it say in System-> About Ubuntu
[00:22] <arcad3> !damn
[00:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <orudie> ompaul: how can i quit from man chown ?
[00:22] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:22] <ompaul> orudie, ctrl c
[00:23] <darkcrab> i have a question, every now and again i will go to close my browser window, and it will log me out of gnome. any ideas?
[00:23] <Starnestommy> orudie: type q?
[00:23] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  i keep getting a "XML Parsing Error: syntax error"
[00:23] <prince_jammys> orudie: Q
[00:23] <darkcrab> actually its any windows
[00:23] <iRRVi> orudie: hit q
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, dmesg | grep ee          seems close to what might work
[00:23] <hitme> Ubuntu 8.04
[00:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, dont mind the trolls, they appear every now and again and jump on people for illegitimate reasons :)
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[00:24] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:24] <Seeker`> hitme: 8.04 isn't officially supported yet
[00:24] <arcad3> so ..nobody can help me with 2 line of code...
[00:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, try using sudo apt-get install xchat from a terminal
[00:24] <pstv> does anyone know how to install beryl?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[00:24] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:24] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:24] <rhineheart_m> mmmm... poor ubotu....doesn't know about damn.. hehehehe... please respect the bot :)
[00:24] <hitme> well 7.10 i can not install .. only getting out of range while first boot
[00:24] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[00:24] <arcad3> i want to use iptables to share my interent connection
[00:24] <arcad3> who can help me
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> rhineheart_m, No one in here will know
[00:24] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  haha thanks, but i cant even download stuff keep getting "XML Parsing Error: syntax error" when i click any downloads
[00:24] <orudie> does this look like correct syntax ? sudo chown pmishuk /var/www
[00:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, thats more than likely the site you're downloading from
[00:25] <bloody`> jack: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58816/
[00:25] <arcad3> chown username:username /var/www
[00:25] <pstv> Why is that
[00:25] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay
[00:25] <bloody`> jack: no error :\
[00:25] <cube> !offtopic
[00:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:25] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: why is that?
[00:25] <Seeker`> hitme: As Hardy is in testing, you wont get support here, because the software isn't stable yet - try #ubuntu+1
[00:25] <prince_jammys> orudie: that's ok
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> pstv, Please ask complete question
[00:25] <orudie> tnx all
[00:25] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, that is not how you install, please click on the menu:  system -> adminstration -> synaptic package manager
[00:26] <darkcrab> sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:26] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: Why is it that no one in here would not know how to install beryl?
[00:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> ompaul, tomato, tamato
[00:26] <Starnestommy> pstv: try compiz-fusion instead
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> pstv, Because it is no longer supported.. read the link
[00:26] <bloody`> jack: any ideas?
[00:27] <pstv> Starnestommy: I already have compiz fusion i also need beryl
 sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Did grep for ee show anythin..
[00:27] <bloody`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58816/
[00:27] <darkcrab> lol no you dont pstv
[00:27] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: ok I understand now
 sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:28] <rhineheart_m> I just want to hear comments about nagios in ubuntu server.. Can the people here recommend it for a production server?
[00:28] <prince_jammys> !repeat
[00:28] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:28] <pstv> darkcrab: I believe I have comiz fusion..I installed it form synaptic..and was able to do some effects
[00:28] <prince_jammys> darkcrab: when does this happen? randomly?
[00:29] <darkcrab> well it "seems" every so often when I go to close a window
[00:29] <eatatjoes2> hey i'm new to ubuntu can someone walk me through how to install .rpm's?
[00:29] <darkcrab> but not "often" no.
[00:29] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: is there no deb package for what you want?
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> eatatjoes2, Bad idea to do that
[00:29] <Seeker`> darkcrab: I think I got something similar with 7.10 and "show desktop" - it would just randomly put me back to the GDM login - its so intermittent, I never bothered searching for help / bugs
[00:29] <stev123> ptsv try this link for berylhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130923-page,1-c,linux/article.htmlhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130923-page,1-c,linux/article.html
[00:30] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  not that i know of, trying to install xchat
[00:30] <darkcrab> yup, that is what it does Seeker.
[00:30] <prince_jammys> !info xchat
[00:30] <ubotu> xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[00:30] <mandrig> Can someone help me with installing ALSA?
[00:30] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you don't need rpm for that
[00:30] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:31] <talonz> anyone else getting a reading error when trying to connect to msn ?
[00:31] <bluefox83> nope
[00:32] <talonz> i tried amsn kopete and pidgin and they all arnt connecting :S
[00:32] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  it gives me an error "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:32] <eatatjoes2> E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[00:32] <talonz> but i can connect through a web messenger eg iloveim
[00:32] <rhineheart_m> eatatjoes2: I will restart and box and try to do it again...
[00:32] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: do you have any package managers open? (synaptic, add/remove, or a terminal running aptitude)
[00:32] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: if you do, close them
[00:32] <Starnestommy> talonz: is your firewall, router, or ISP blocking msn?
[00:33] <mandrig> Can someone help me with installing ALSA?
[00:33] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  not that i know of but im a total noob to ubuntu, just installed it today
[00:33] <talonz> firewall and router no isp i dont know ill have to give them a call
[00:33] <D-Unit> i like the default looks and everything of ubuntu but i wanna change the orange colour to another colour like black?...how would i do that? downlaod a human black theme? were is it?
[00:33] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, log out and back in again - then try it
[00:33] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: ok, if you don't have any package management apps open, paste the following command
[00:34] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | eatatjoes2
[00:34] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:34] <mandrig> my /lib/cpp fail sanity check
[00:34] <karuna_bdc> how come i dont get mucic in any linux games?
[00:34] <karuna_bdc> or sound
[00:34] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: and then do sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:35] <jester7> are there any negatives to using the 64-bit version of gutsy?
[00:35] <jester7> anything that doesn't work in 64 that does in 32?
[00:36] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you MAY need to include the "universe" repository, which you do under System->Admin->Software Sources
[00:36] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  musta had something open
[00:36] <ompaul> jester7, codecs are easier on 32 - i.e. multimedia stuff
[00:36] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  was installing updates for ubuntu and that finished and now its getting xchat
[00:36] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: good. avoid rpm
[00:36] <jester7> ompaul: is there any real advantage to the 64bit?
[00:37] <ompaul> jester7, if you are doing big database material
[00:37] <Wass|> hello
[00:37] <Wass|> bloody` : are you there ?
[00:37] <jester7> ompaul: nah, simply getting a new laptop with amd64 processor
[00:38] <jester7> using it as a standard laptop, nothing special
[00:38] <Echoside> Hello everyone. I'm having a bit of a problem with my xorg.conf. Every time I logout or reboot the computer the settings get messed up.
[00:38] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  i downloaded lm_sensors do u know how i can install that it was a tar.bzz
[00:38] <eatatjoes2> err bz2
[00:38] <ompaul> jester7, then get it and use the 32bit version on it
[00:38] <ompaul> !repos | eatatjoes2
[00:38] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:39] <jester7> ok, that was the plan :)  i just wanted to make sure i wasn't going to miss out on some awesome super cool feature that isn't there in the 32-bit
[00:39] <Tu13es> i just switched over to xfce and all my fonts look huge. any ideas?  DPI is 96
[00:39] <Tu13es> which is what it should be
[00:39] <gb__> hi guys
[00:39] <prince_jammys> !info lm-sensors
[00:39] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[00:39] <Wass|> to use a NS  created with bind9 on ubuntu on a  bougth domain name, I must register that NS on a registrar ?
[00:39] <gb__> !htaccess
[00:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htaccess - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:40] <bloody`> !.htaccess
[00:40] <gb__> anyone working with htaccess files?
[00:40] <Kumool> is there a way i can set a format to specifically open with something?
[00:40] <BadSector> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10, and I have a Nvidia Geforce 6100... I have attempted to use the Restricted Driver the ubuntu suggested for me to use, but it seems to crash the system (screen becomes very messed up after a few mins, as to not be able to read anything).... does anyone here know the fix, or can point me in a good direction for a fix, or if i'm just screwed? :)
[00:40] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: don't download it - it's already in the apt repositories::: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[00:40] <ompaul> prince_jammys, they have been advised twice about repos and synaptic
[00:40] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks, sorry for being such a noob
[00:41] <linuxchild> Hello, why i cant install amule now?  An error occured:             W: Failed to fetch http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amule/amule-common_2.1.3-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:41] <Kumool> is there a way i can set a format to specifically open with something?
[00:41] <linuxchild>   500 Internal Server Error
[00:41] <prince_jammys> ompaul: ok
[00:41] <haskel> how i load
[00:42] <haskel> ip forward module
[00:42] <haskel> to kernel
[00:42] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: if you install this way, it's easier to uninstall and update. only install outside of repositories if you absolutely must
[00:42] <Echoside> Hello everyone. I'm having a bit of a problem with my xorg.conf. Every time I logout or reboot the computer the settings get messed up.
[00:42] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  okay ill have to read up more on repositories , last question how do u find the stuff that u install?
[00:43] <mandrig> I'm getting errors when I make and make install
[00:43] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, it is put in /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin depending on the package and lots of other places also
[00:44] <bluefox83> Echoside, what are you using to edit the settings?
[00:44] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you can search for packages with "synaptic" (also with add/remove, but the package list is smaller).  System->Admin->Synaptic.   from a terminal, you can also search using::: apt-cache search mysearchstring (will find packages that contain "mysearchstring")
[00:45] <prince_jammys> !apt | eatatjoes2
[00:45] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:45] <prince_jammys> !synaptic > eatatjoes2
[00:45] <mexicanbanana> "I was ready to switch from Windows to Ubuntu, but then it wouldn't let me!": http://www.anontalk.com/topic/601
[00:46] <mw-home> My laptop has a microphone jack, and I plugged in a microphone, but I can't record from it.  I'm sure I need to mess with alsamixer, but am getting nowhere.
[00:46] <mexicanbanana> :-(
[00:46] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2:  get acquainted with all that, it's very easy once you're familiar
[00:46] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks a lot, still having a problem finding the lm-sensors but im sure its aorund here somewhere
[00:46] <Praticle> hello, i have steam installed via wine and it works great, when i run a game it opens fine i join a server it downloads all the neccasary  files finishes "sending client info" then closes never to be heard from again (until i try again that is)
[00:47]  * NinjaPlimsoles waves at eatatjoes2
[00:47] <darkcrab> well, i couldnt find anything on the ubuntu forums, anyone have any suggestions on the random logouts to the gdm screen?
[00:47] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: for lm-sensors check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[00:47] <haskel> i'm starting to think ubuntu is the problem itself
[00:48] <ka2> haskel: what problem?
[00:48] <darkcrab> yea, seems that way
[00:48] <haskel> ipmasq
[00:48] <haskel> shoult share my internet connection
[00:48] <haskel> its not
[00:48] <haskel> tryied all
[00:48] <ka2> haskel: firestarter?
[00:48] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: that seems pretty involved. i don't know what lm-sensors is
[00:48] <haskel> i have ubuntu server
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  just looking for a program to monitor cpu temp
[00:49] <haskel> other firewalls? what should i try next?
[00:50] <bluefox83> mexicanbanana, http://www.anontalk.com/topic/601#reply_1755
[00:50] <biabia__> I have a pc, it connects to my wireless network with 64bit wep in windows, but not in ubuntu. i followed the command line setup but dhclient wlan0 doesnt set the ip (yes i tried the gui, also with no luck)
[00:50] <ompaul> !firewalls | haskel
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firewalls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <ompaul> !firewall | haskel
[00:50] <ubotu> haskel: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:50] <haskel> dint helped
[00:51] <|SEF|> Hello, is there a command to check the location of my dvd drive?
[00:51] <bloody`> firestarter is very nice
 well, i couldnt find anything on the ubuntu forums, anyone have any suggestions on the random logouts to the gdm screen?
[00:51]  * bluefox83 stays away from firewall software, the router is more than enough for me :)
[00:51] <bloody`> its very easy to use
[00:51] <bluefox83> darkcrab, whats happening?
[00:52] <darkcrab> every occasionally, I will get logged off back to the login screen.
[00:52] <Praticle> "Start steam by just typing wine Steam.exe after you changed to the directory you installed Steam."... im a linux noob how exactly do i "change to the driectory"?
[00:52] <sidelil> Excuse me I was trying to put on a DVD more then one bootable CD, like ubuntu, kubuntu SuperGrubDisk, RescueSystemCD etc., with a GRUB menu. Do you know what should I write on the menu.lst file in order to boot the right one? Thanks
[00:52] <bluefox83> while you are working, or like..only when you leave the machine idle?
[00:52] <darkcrab> while I am working.
[00:52] <darkcrab> already checked the forum, and couldnt find an answer
[00:53] <|SEF|> Practicle: you type cd nameofdirectory
[00:53] <|SEF|> Practicle: in the terminal
[00:53] <darkcrab> like, I will go to close a window and just as I go to close that window bam I am back at the login screen.
[00:53] <Praticle> |SEF|: oh ok thx
[00:53] <bluefox83> darkcrab, that's rather odd...just to make sure no one is messing with stuff, change your password and don't tell anyone, then look around, make sure you haven't got the logout thing tied to a key combination
[00:54] <|SEF|> Practicle: np :)
[00:54] <BadSector> i'll bb to ask later :)
[00:54] <darkcrab> Its tied to ctrl alt delete, but I know I am not pushing ctrl alt delete.
[00:54] <Seeker`> bluefox83: I sometimes get something similar when my mouse goes near the "show desktop" button
[00:55] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: there's something called "computertemp" :: you can install it with sudo apt-get install computertemp  (by the way, if you ever want to uninstall you do   sudo apt-get remove name_of_package )
[00:55] <prince_jammys> !info computertemp | eatatjoes2
[00:55] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: computertemp (source: computertemp): computer temperature monitor applet for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6.1-1 (gutsy), package size 50 kB, installed size 452 kB
[00:55] <haskel> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE + ip forward set to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf ifconfig eth1 192.168.234.1 up does not work
[00:55] <haskel> other ideas?
[00:55] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks for all the help
[00:56] <snypzz> need to play streaming audio and video with ubuntu
[00:56] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: here are screenshots, etc. but DONT download it from here, use apt. http://computertemp.berlios.de/
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  is there a place u find all these programs names?
[00:58] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: i use a combination of synaptic (where you can search with keywords) and google, to get ideas/reviews/screenshots, etc (google: ubuntu cpu temperature, for example)
[00:59] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  okay thanks, last "?" (I swear!) is where can i find computertemp
[00:59] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: it's already at the repositories. all you have to do is:  sudo apt-get install computertemp
[00:59] <dabbill> I installed the startup manager, but removed it, how can i get the default loading screen back?
[00:59] <Echoside> bluefox83, Sorry it took so long to respond. I'm just useing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:59] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  i installed it just cant find where to open it at
[01:00] <alfred_> ssh skips a private key i have put in ~/.ssh and the file permissions are 0600. the file isn't listed when i do ssh -v
[01:00] <alfred_> any ideas why?
[01:01] <Echoside> bluefox83, The system finds my card and everything just fine. And when i restart X, all the settings work. But I restart and I lose resolution sizes.
[01:01] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: look around in the menus first, to see if it created an entry.  if it's not there, right click on your desktop panel and see if it appears under "add to panel".  and if it still doesnt show up, do ALT F2 and type "computertemp"
[01:03] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  hmm tried all 3 of those and nothing
[01:04] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: right click on panel, the "add to panel" and under "system and hardware" "computer temperature monitor" -- i just did it
[01:04] <icesword> prince_jammys, hi
[01:05] <prince_jammys> icesword: hello
[01:06] <icesword> hmm
[01:06] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  sorry im still not seeing where u r talkin about
[01:07] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  nevermind, im retarded
[01:07] <Praticle> hi, im trying to use... cd ".wine/drive_c/program files/steam/" am i doing something wrong? because it keeps saying the directory doesnt exist
[01:08] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: which part are you missing?
[01:08] <ghindo> Praticle:  I think it's not working because there's a space in "program files"
[01:08] <ghindo> Praticle:  I'm not sure how to bypass that, though
[01:08] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  nevermind i found it, i just clicked on it to add to panel, is there a way for it to be moved under "applications menu"
[01:08] <iositd> Praticle, there is a space, so add a \ before that, and it is Program Files, watcht he capitals =)
[01:09] <Praticle> iositd: k ill try that
[01:09] <ghindo> iositd:  so it'd be ".wine/drive_c\Program Files/steam/?
[01:09] <iositd> Praticle, it helps using tab completion
[01:09] <anniku989> I have dual boot of ubuntu/vista on same hdd, how do i view my vista partition on ubuntu?
[01:09] <iositd> ghindo, no, escape the space so instead of " " you get "\ "
[01:09] <Praticle> iositd: tab completion?
[01:10] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: good question, i don't know. i don't normally use gnome, i use kde (kubuntu)
[01:10] <Starnestommy> ghindo: .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/steam/
[01:10] <iositd> Praticle, yes.
[01:10] <iositd> !tab | Praticle
[01:10] <ubotu> Praticle: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:10] <ghindo> Ok, thanks
[01:10] <Praticle> iosited: i see...\
[01:10] <|SEF|> anniku989: I'm not sure about the system partition, but if it's just data, and the filesystem is NTFS you can try getting ntfsconfig
[01:11] <cjae> is there any way to probe usb devices or like a refresh option?
[01:11] <anniku989> I just want to be able to get my music/pics and such off of it
[01:12] <anniku989> |SEF| so i should go to package manager and install 'ntfsconfig' ?
[01:12] <prince_jammys> anniku989: first check if it's already mounted
[01:12] <anniku989> If by mounted, you mean able to see it on the desktop, then no, it is not
[01:13] <prince_jammys> anniku989: no, it could be mounted but with no icon on the desktop
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> A colleague at work told me that there are a small number of linux viruses and that linux needs at least some virus protection.  Is that true?
[01:13] <anniku989> how do i check this
[01:13] <josspyker> anniku989: use ntfs 3g
[01:13] <|SEF|> anniku989: I think you can just go to Applications>Add/Remove Programs if you are on Gutsy
[01:13] <tbrock> hey guys, what is the keystroke to decrease resolution in X
[01:13] <|SEF|> anniku989: but you will need to enable community maintained repositories or something
[01:13] <prince_jammys> anniku989: type ::  mount | grep fuseblk    and see if there's any output
[01:13] <snypzz> is there a streaming audio video program for ubuntu
[01:13] <anniku989> prince_jammys one sec
[01:14] <Starnestommy> PhilcoBill: the number of Linux viruses is currently so small that you can be perfectly safe without an antivirus
[01:14] <Starnestommy> snypzz: vlc?
[01:14] <Praticle> iosited: i am now putting cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam but it still says there is no directory, but it finds cd .wine fine :-/
[01:14] <snypzz> how do I get
[01:14] <Seeker`> PhilcoBill: I think there are very very few (if any) linux viruses in the wild, and I think they require the user to be particularly silly to do anything
[01:14] <anniku989> thats not doing anything
[01:14] <iositd> Praticle, you can use tab to find the directories as well
[01:14] <Seeker`> PhilcoBill: I would guess that in the region o 99% of linux boxes dont have AV
[01:14] <prince_jammys> Praticle: browse to the directory and double check the case sensitivity
[01:14] <cube> i need to know what control panel to install on gutsy server installation i have so i can access it via web browser
[01:15] <prince_jammys> Praticle: or use tab key to autocomplete, as above
[01:15] <Starnestommy> snypzz: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:15] <Praticle> iosited i tried using the tab thing it changes Program to Program d Dos
[01:15] <anniku989> prince_jammys how do i tell if it is mounted
[01:15] <josspyker> cube: you can try webmin
[01:15] <snypzz> thanks
[01:15] <prince_jammys> anniku989: did anything appear?
[01:15] <usse1> !webmin
[01:15] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[01:15] <prince_jammys> anniku989: if so, paste it here
[01:16] <anniku989> prince_jammys: I didn't get anything
[01:16] <cube> thankyou joss
[01:16] <brownie17> hi guys, i would lke to know something. i've heard that windows 64bit is quite difficult to run and driver availability is low, is this the same case for ubuntu? is 64bit ubuntu any more complicated than 32bit?
[01:16] <anniku989> ::  mount | grep fuseblk right?
[01:16] <georgy_28> !ebox
[01:16] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[01:16] <prince_jammys> anniku989: yes.  ok try::  grep ntfs /etc/fstab    and if nothing shows up, you can install ntfs-3g
[01:16] <ghindo> brownie17:  64 bit is more complicated primarily with things like flash - otherwise, I think it's fine
[01:16] <anniku989> alright
[01:16] <Praticle> ok i got it, it needed to be cd /home/mackenzie/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[01:17] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Do i put the colon's too?
[01:17] <josspyker> anniku989: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:17] <prince_jammys> anniku989: no
[01:17] <anniku989> k, one sec
[01:17] <aceraxon> hey all, running hardy 64bit and suddenly I can't change my screen resolution.  I can open the window for it, but when I click apply, absolutely nothing happens.  Any way to fix this?
[01:17] <brownie17> ghindo, thanks, i don't reckon flash will be be needed. also i think i'll be running qemu so that's okay
[01:17] <prince_jammys> anniku989: grep searches for the string "ntfs" in the file /etc/fstab, which is a list of what gets mounted
[01:17] <gokee2_> I am trying to mount some files through nfs and all I seem to be able to get is "drwx------ 10 1005 users" its not even letting root change that.  If I make a user with uid of 1005 I an look at the files.  I am using (rw,sync,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) on the server.  I want all users on this computer to be able to read/write to this shhare
[01:17] <gokee2_> share*
[01:18] <solexious> hello all, all wmv files i play look blue... any ideas why?
[01:18] <gokee2_> Anyone know what could be wrong?  I think its somehow not picking on on no_root_squash?
[01:18] <anniku989> anniku989@anniku989-laptop:~$ grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[01:18] <anniku989> UUID=61F253FE7B5A14C9 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:19] <prince_jammys> anniku989: that's it -- it's mounted to the folder /media/sda1
[01:19] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you can browse to that and view the contents
[01:19] <anniku989> alrighty, sweet
[01:19] <anniku989> Thanks man
[01:19] <Pelo> solexious, try opening synaptic and installing all the gstreamer0.10 packages you find , but be warned some wmv formats just don'T play well
[01:20]  * Pelo iz a lil board 
[01:22] <D-Unit> will a pentium 4 thats 64-bit capable be faster or just work with 64-bit?
[01:22] <D-Unit> intel 630 to be precise
[01:22] <prince_jammys> anniku989: or i should say it *should* be mounted there
[01:22] <sfears> i know nvidia isn't officially supported: however, it used to work, after playing around with network settings after reboot it seems to give me an error about nvidia0.. i've completely removed & reinstalled all the nvidia packages & still get the same error.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:23] <Pelo> D-Unit, 64bit ubuntu still has some package issues,  no flash and some drivers missing for nvidia/ati and such , we generaly recommend the 32bit unless you hvae a real use for 64 bit
[01:24] <ghindo> Does anyone know why I get a "low-graphics mode" message at boot?
[01:24] <D-Unit> Pelo, well i dont use youtube much if ever and dont encode much either but i do encode more than i use youtube so i c use for 64-bit in that sense but should my 32-bit dial-up modem driver work in it?
[01:24] <sfears> no idea ghindo
[01:25] <ghindo> sfears:  how could I find out?
[01:25] <Pelo> sfears, I would review what you did when you "played around" see what might have messed up your nvidia settings,  I can't realy tell what migth have gone wrong but I know that resintalling a package doesn't reset settings and such
[01:25] <sfears> what part of boot ghindo
[01:26] <ghindo> sfears right before the login screen
[01:26] <sfears> do you know what file i would have to delete to bring the settings back to default Pelo?
[01:26] <Pelo> D-Unit, I think you should be fine
[01:26] <Pelo> sfears, not realy,  what is it that is not working ? video ? sound ?
[01:26] <D-Unit> Pelo, for 64-bit u mean, right?
[01:27] <Pelo> D-Unit, yeah,  , what is your video card ?
[01:27] <leo_rockw> greetings #ubuntu
[01:27] <sfears> ghindo.. when dealing with resolution issues.. sometimes.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can help.. but theres a lot of settings in there and it's easy to leave worse than you started
[01:27] <D-Unit> Pelo, ati saphire radeon x600 pro
[01:27] <solexious> [Q] How can i change the default player for wmv files?
[01:27] <ghindo> Thanks sfears
[01:27] <mandrig> can someone help me with some errors I'm encountering while installing alsa
[01:27] <Pelo> D-Unit,  that is where you might have issues,  I am not sure there are ati video drivers for the 64 bit version,
[01:28] <sfears> Pelo, when i enable restriced drivers & reboot.. i lose the gui logon screen.. if i command startx.. i get an error about not finding /etc/nvidia0 or something & screens found with no useable configuration
[01:28] <Nuxis> What is the programm to ad programms to the menu
[01:28] <arcticpenguin380> y cant i see my 8 gigs of ram?
[01:28] <arrow> Will someone please recommend a good game for me?
[01:28] <soundray> Nuxis: alacarte
[01:28] <sfears> arrow.. frets on fire
[01:28] <Nuxis> tnx soundray
[01:28] <D-Unit> Pelo, well in like 4 months i was planning to buy a 8800 gt 512 mb so i should be good then?
[01:28] <leo_rockw> arcticpenguin380: did you install ubuntu 64?
[01:28] <arrow> sfears, "frets on fire" is the name of the game?
[01:28] <Pelo> D-Unit, give it a try ,  if video is not an issue ther is always the vesa driver,  which should install by default anyway , if that doesn't work well for you , you'll know quickly enough,  and yuou can reinstall the 32bit one
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arrow: tremulous
[01:29] <Tommy> Hello, what is a program that i can use to speak written text? Like i type something and the computer reads it out + this read out can be saved (ie: an mp3 file)?
[01:29] <arcticpenguin380> 32bit i think
[01:29] <soundray> Nuxis: accessed via System-Preferences-Main Menu
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arcticpenguin380: that's y then
[01:29] <Pelo> D-Unit, consider checkingthis link out  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:29] <soundray> Tommy: there's festival
[01:29] <Pelo> sd
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arrow: tremulous is an fps/rts game. frets on fire is a guitar hero clone. both are good
[01:29] <Dangermike> anybody know how to stop firefox from loading swf and of the like? Every browser i have seg faults when trying to load flash...
[01:29] <solexious> Tommy: fiesta
[01:29] <cjae> hello how may I access my external esata hdd?
[01:29] <arrow> thx leo_rockw and sfears
[01:29] <solexious> Tommy: festival*
[01:29] <sfears> yup yup
[01:29] <Dangermike> cjae, is it mounted?
[01:30] <D-Unit> Pelo, if video works well on live cd then that means ill have no video problems, right?
[01:30] <Pelo> sfears, I'm not sure but did you say you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? that would be my suggestion
[01:30] <solexious> [Q] How can i change the default player for wmv files?
[01:30] <cjae> Dangermike, no
[01:30] <sfears> yeah
[01:30] <Pelo> D-Unit, live cd uses vesa driver as far as I know
[01:30] <leo_rockw> arrow: np
[01:30] <mandrig> I'm getting errors while installing alsa
[01:30] <cjae> Dangermike, do I have to edit fstab for it to be?
[01:30] <sfears> that's the only way i can get back to gui.. is to set to vesa... when i try with nvidia i get the same error
[01:30] <D-Unit> Pelo, y does it matter which driver i use?
[01:31] <Dangermike> cjae only if you want it to be persistent
[01:31] <georgy_28> sfears: try nv
[01:31] <leo_rockw> mandrig: use a pastebin to show us the errors
[01:31] <Pelo> D-Unit, I don't realy have any experince with either 64 bit or ati cards,  I'm just spitting back what I've read other say
[01:31] <Dangermike> cjae it should auto mount but if it didnt open terminal and type in  dmesg  get the name of the device then if you dont have a mount point create a directory under /media and then mount the dev like  sudo mount /dev/xxx /media/whatever
[01:31] <sfears> tried that too.. nv works but it doesn't enable extra effects
[01:31] <soundray> solexious: right-click - Properties - Open With
[01:31] <D-Unit> Pelo, k, well thx for answering some stuff
[01:31] <Pelo> D-Unit, depends how much you want out of your video card,  vesa is just a fallback driver, it won'T allow you to use 3d stuff and effect as far as I know
[01:32] <sfears> is there some kinda of nvidia.d file i can delete to start it from scratch?
[01:32] <Dangermike> sfears, look in synaptic you should have them installed there
[01:32] <mandrig> leo_rock, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:32] <Tommy> thanks
[01:32]  * Pelo sucks , he's got a lame computer and can't answer any questions about snazzy hardware
[01:32] <sfears> they're installed.. they're just not working correctally
[01:32] <Dangermike> sfears right click-> remove completely
[01:32] <solexious> soundray: it doesnt seem to keep that option tho...
[01:32] <sfears> yup.. tried that
[01:33] <Dangermike> sfears, if you want to find if its anywhere else slocate nvidia
[01:34] <soundray> solexious: it should -- does it report any errors when you set it?
[01:34] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Sorry for the delay, but that directory is the partition I have this ubuntu on, not my vista partition
[01:34]  * Pelo notices soundray has no social life either 
[01:34] <stormze1> I'm building a firewall with a 300 GB drive.  (All I had)  Should I resize the (automatically) installed partitions to be much smaller in anticipation that the disk checking routing doesn't take forever when it kicks in?
[01:34] <stormze1> ( or does it even check unused sectors? )
[01:34] <leo_rockw> mandrig: how where you installing it?
[01:35] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you have ubuntu installed on an ntfs partition?
[01:35] <solexious> soundray: its added it to right clicking the fie but its not the default option
[01:35] <stormze1> OOps.  Wrong channel.  Sorry.
[01:35] <mandrig> leo, that was the feedback i got from make
[01:35] <anniku989> i'm 90% sure i formatted it as something else
[01:35] <Dangermike> anybody know how to stop or disassociate swf files from the OS, specifically the browsers ?
[01:35] <cjae> Dangermike, ok I did dmesg | grep sata and cannot tell if it is my internal sata drive or external
[01:35]  * soundray notices that Pelo draws the wrong conclusions
[01:35] <cube> how do i burn an iso slow, the built in one on ubuntu doesn't let me select a speed
[01:35] <BadSector> Does anyone have any help or direction for me to try and fix my Ubuntu 7.10 + geforce 6100 driver problems?
[01:35] <Dangermike> cjae, type in mount and see what dev name the internal one is
[01:35] <cube> is there a good app for  burning an iso?
[01:36] <Dangermike> cube, k3b
[01:36] <phoenix5002> I want to upgrade my video driver, but due to problems in the past I want to make sure I can get back to where I am now, so how would I do that?  Could I just reconfigure Xserver to get my current video driver back?
[01:36] <Pelo> cube, try using gnomebaker
[01:36] <anniku989> actually, that might be my swap space
[01:36] <cube> thankyou both
[01:36] <prince_jammys> anniku989: can you do :  sudo fdisk -l     and see which devices are marked NTFS?
[01:36] <Pelo> BadSector, what is the nature of the problem ?
[01:36] <anniku989> either way, its not the vista oen
[01:36] <anniku989> k
[01:36] <Dangermike> BadSector, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <leo_rockw> mandrig: i've compiled alsa many times and i've never seen anything like that... i'm not sure what could be the problem
[01:37] <phoenix5002> how can I get Ubuntu to install the same video driver that it gave me when I first installed Ubuntu?
[01:37] <soundray> solexious: I can't reproduce your problem -- after going through Properties-Open With, I get the selected app as default
[01:37] <anniku989> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[01:37] <anniku989> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:37] <anniku989> Disk identifier: 0x4a414a40
[01:37] <anniku989>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:37] <anniku989> /dev/sda1   *           1        8797    70656116    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:37] <anniku989> /dev/sda2            8928        9717     6345675   83  Linux
[01:37] <FloodBot2> anniku989: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <cjae> Dangermike, ok I did that but they are both seagate hdd's, how else do you mean to tell?
[01:37] <soundray> solexious: are all your settings directories owned by you?
[01:37] <solexious> soundray: dam, thank you for trying
[01:37] <BadSector> Pelo: I installed the "suggested" restricted driver, and it runs for a few mins, but then the screen completely messes up so as that i cannot read anything on it... i have been trying that binarydriverhowto as well.. (well, i guess i will try more, if that is the only fix)
[01:38] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ok in a terminal can you do:    cd /media/sda1
[01:38] <Dangermike> the internal *should* be sda the external should be sdb etc
[01:38] <solexious> i belive so, only me and root
[01:38] <anniku989> whats with the floodbot?
[01:38] <anniku989> yup
[01:38] <phoenix5002> how can I get Ubuntu to install the same video driver that it gave me when I first installed Ubuntu?
[01:38] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you can't paste a bunch of lines
[01:38] <Pelo> BadSector, you can always revert to the vesa driver if you need to with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   from the recovery mode
[01:38] <Dangermike> BadSector, i used envy when installing my nvidia drivers and i have not had any issues although its not supported by ubuntu at all
[01:38] <leo_rockw> anniku989: you need to use a pastebin for more than a couple of lines
[01:38] <Dangermike> !envy | badsector
[01:38] <ubotu> badsector: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:39] <cjae> Dangermike, open dialogue window?
[01:39] <soundray> solexious: occasionally, config directories in your home become owned by root (side effect from invoking root shells in a bad way)
[01:39] <anniku989> oh, sorry
[01:39] <georgy_28> phoenix5002, : make a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:39] <anniku989> I get nothing from that command
[01:39] <sidelil> Excuse me I was trying to put on a DVD more then one bootable CD, like ubuntu, kubuntu SuperGrubDisk, RescueSystemCD etc., with a GRUB menu. Do you know what should I write on the menu.lst file in order to boot the right one? Thanks
[01:39] <prince_jammys> anniku989: do :   ls
[01:39] <Dangermike> cjae, when you type in mount the dev that has a mount point of / is your internal
[01:39] <BadSector> thx Dangermike! I'll give that a shot
[01:39] <aanabasis> /j ubuntu+1
[01:39] <kevcox> Can anyone recommend the best GNU application that I can monitor my system logs?
[01:39] <NW2190> hey, how can I fix my JACK server if it keeps saying "hw0: is already in use"?
[01:39] <prince_jammys> anniku989: the cd command just changes directory, so it's ok if you get nothing
[01:40] <soundray> solexious: 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME' should fix it (be careful not to mistype -- best substitute the real values for the variables)
[01:40] <leo_rockw> !best | kevcox
[01:40] <ubotu> kevcox: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[01:40] <NW2190> What/Where is the "hw:0" playback device in ubuntu?
[01:40] <mandrig> Hey guys, I'm getting an error when I make alsa-lib, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys oh, ok
[01:40] <cjae> Dangermike, no it is only /home but is no where near the same syntax as what  I get from dmesg
[01:40] <zdux00tv> hi I'm trying to create a bootable USB drive, I'm having trouble. I use dd to copy an image onto a UDB disk, the command was dd if=disk.img of=/dev/sdb1  Should I have used /dev/sdb instead?
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys: now what
[01:40] <new_ubu_user> anyone wanna help me get my dual monitors working? :>
[01:40] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ls   lists the contents. is anything there?
[01:40] <soundray> kevcox: IMO, tail -f in a terminal is best
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Just type ls in terminal? I don't get anything
[01:41] <phoenix5002> georgy_28 look at PM
[01:41] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ok now type:  cd  and hit enter, and then:  sudo mount /media/sda1
[01:41] <lachlan> how do i update my version of wine to 0.9.54? i heard that that version is in the ubuntu reps
[01:41] <arrow> so I just installed tremulous on my computer and its all blurry, I noticed it did that with starcraft also, but I thought that that was because of wine
[01:41] <anniku989> k
[01:41] <kevcox> Thank you
[01:41] <Dangermike> cjae, yeah mount just shows you current mounted devices if you have ubuntu installed on your internal then it will say something like /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:41] <soundray> zdux00tv: no, the command looks all right. Were you following a guide?
[01:41] <mandrig> Can anyone help me with an error I'm getting when I 'make
[01:41] <mandrig> ' alsa-lib, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:41] <new_ubu_user> I just installed Hardy with hopes that it would be cake to get dual monitors and Active directory auth working..can anyone assist?
[01:42] <Dangermike> cjae, if you see sda on your internal and you only have 1 other sata device it should be sdb just mount the device, along with its partition number, to a mount point in /media
[01:42] <soundray> new_ubu_user: try in #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[01:42] <anniku989> prince_jammys: can you plz join channel #anniku989help real quick?
[01:42] <zdux00tv> soundray: yes I'm getting an error PXE... which is a network card issue? So I think my usb device isn't getting detected
[01:42] <ThreeFingerPete> new_ubu_user: dual monitor should be easy enough
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> you'd think so :0
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> i got cloned display on both monitors
[01:42] <stormze1> hmm.  couldn't get my question answered at ##linux.  Anyone know if the mandatory checkdisk routine checks unused sectors?
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> this happens with my install of gutsy as well
[01:43] <cjae> Dangermike, no because everything is sdX and I have more than one internel drive
[01:43] <soundray> zdux00tv: yes, it's either not even trying to boot from USB (which you should fix via BIOS setup), or there is no suitable boot sector. Some hardware won't boot off USB at all.
[01:43] <Dangermike> cjae, they follow logically as in sda sdb sdc etc look at the last device and your external will be the next lettering
[01:43] <new_ubu_user> i am on a dell optiplex gx620
[01:43] <new_ubu_user> ati
[01:43] <soundray> zdux00tv: did you partition and format the USB device before you used the dd?
[01:44] <tokyoahead> hi guys.... how do I terminate a died wine-application?
[01:44] <Dangermike> tokyoahead,  wineserver -k
[01:44] <cjae> Dangermike, I am getting  away from the point here, I cannot distinguish the name from dmesg to create a dir in /media
[01:44] <zdux00tv> soundray: the bios lists USB HDD as  first to boot. So maybe it's the image? I didn't format the USB, just using dd so I thought it was unnecessary
[01:44] <soundray> Dangermike: won't that kill all the running wine programs ( tokyoahead)
[01:45] <Dangermike> cjae, give me a sec let me find my external sata i will have to look at it
[01:45] <scoundrel> hi, guys
[01:45] <zdux00tv> soundray: In gparted, it lists the card as fat and bootable
[01:45] <blake__> hi. i'm on ubuntu. my desktop just froze. i have an unsaved text document that i CANNOT lose. what can i do?
[01:45] <blake__> please, i need help urgently... :-(
[01:45] <scoundrel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/199708 - any ideas?
[01:45] <hilikus`> anyone good with ssh? :)
[01:45] <soundray> zdux00tv: did you dd *from* a fat filesystem as well?
[01:45] <Starnestommy> blake__: find out what process is causing the lockup and end it
[01:45] <blake__> how?
[01:46] <soundray> hilikus`: just ask the question
[01:46] <Starnestommy> blake__: run 'top' in the terminal
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: and then killall processname
[01:46] <blake__> how? the desktop is frozen
[01:46] <blake__> how could i get terminal
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: ctrl + alt + F1
[01:46] <tokyoahead> Dangermike: thanks
[01:46] <hilikus`> i made a .ppk with puttygen and how do i get that to the authorized_key id_rsa.pub and id_rsa files so it works
[01:46] <blake__> and that wont close my desktop leo_rockw?
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: and ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X
[01:46] <blake__> i have a text document i cant lose
[01:46] <rbil> how is that going to save an unsaved document in his editor?
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: nope, it won't close your desktop
[01:46] <amenado> blake__-> do you have another pc you ssh in to your box?
[01:46] <rbil> methinks  he's lost that document and there is no way to recover
[01:46] <Starnestommy> blake__: it won't.  It'll just switch control of the screen to a virtual terminal
[01:47] <blake__> no ssh is not enabled
[01:47] <leo_rockw> blake__: unless the frozen process is gdm itself
[01:47] <leo_rockw> blake__: maybe you can find the file in /tmp
[01:47] <blake__> no, i doubt its gdm
[01:47] <blake__> i think its vmware
[01:47] <zdux00tv> soundray: well, this OS is ext, the dd image is fat (at least I think it is)
[01:47] <Bradley> hi
[01:47] <soundray> hilikus`: copy the public part to the server and append it with 'cat publickey >>$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[01:47] <Bradley> can anyone hlep me?
[01:47] <hilikus`> do i juts copy the public key puttygen made to authorized_keys?
[01:47] <blake__> uh oh, ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[01:47] <blake__> wtf
[01:47] <Bradley> hello
[01:48] <WhiteNerd> #unixpod
[01:48] <Bradley> can anyone offer any assiastance?
[01:48] <soundray> hilikus`: no, append. Otherwise you will delete whatever is already there.
[01:48] <hilikus`> ok
[01:48] <zdux00tv> soundray: gparted lists the usb as fat16, and on it I see various files, so it looks  like it is not corrupted
[01:48] <WhiteNerd> join #unixpod
[01:48] <hilikus`> do i need id_rsa.pub and id_rsa ?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> Bradley: what do you need help with?
[01:48] <blake__> CTRL ALT F1 does nothing...
[01:48] <blake__> is all lost?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> WhiteNerd: /join #unixpod
[01:48] <Bradley> oh cool
[01:48] <blake__> i cant lose that text document
[01:48] <leo_rockw> !ask | Bradley
[01:48] <ubotu> Bradley: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:48] <Bradley> i need help with getting Ubuntu installed, duelbot
[01:48] <soundray> zdux00tv: I think you should have a look at the install page -- it links to instructions for USB HD installations. Private message...
[01:48] <hilikus`> what _are_ id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[01:48] <soundray> !install > zdux00tv
[01:48] <NobleArc> When I try to install Ubuntu on my Dell lappy, the partitioner gives me the following error message: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected); size of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).
[01:49] <blake__> i will do anything to get what is on that text document, pleasE!
[01:49] <NobleArc> What's up with that?
[01:49] <rbil> blake__: what editor were u using with that doc?
[01:49] <zdux00tv> soundray: also gparted reports that it is flagged as bootable
[01:49] <Bradley> *duelboot
[01:49] <blake__> gedit, rbil
[01:49] <blake__> and i think vmware froze
[01:49] <Bradley> i have tried many times, and it ended up messing up windows
[01:49] <blake__> but the entire desktop froze as well
[01:49] <blake__> the clock stopped
[01:49] <blake__> its stuck at 8:39 pm
[01:49] <leo_rockw> blake__: does caps lock work?
[01:49] <phoenix5002> I'm having trouble with some applications not responding to Ubuntu HotKeys
[01:49] <blake__> how would i know if caps lock works?
[01:49] <zdux00tv> soundray: I'm using irssi (text based irc) not sure if I have private messages,, I'll go check the offical site and see if I missed a step
[01:49] <blake__> no, it doesnt
[01:49] <soundray> zdux00tv: the bootable flag doesn't matter these days -- well, only to DOS MBRs. Which makes me think: did you install grub to the device?
[01:49] <rbil> blake__: problem is you won't be able to get back into gedit and its contents from another terminal session, be it a fullscreen console or ssh
[01:50] <blake__> caps lock does not light up
[01:50] <soundray> !install | zdux00tv
[01:50] <ubotu> zdux00tv: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:50] <sotero> hi
[01:50] <dabbill> any one here use startupmanager? i cant seem to get any splash screens to work other then the ones for grub
[01:50] <sotero> have peoples from brasil?
[01:50] <ryanzec> how do i change file permission recursively from command line?  I have a bunch of folder i want to put into my apache localhost but need to change the permissions so apache can read it
[01:50] <blake__> rbil, caps lock does not light up
[01:50] <blake__> however, f lock works, but caps lock does not
[01:50] <blake__> very strange
[01:50] <blake__> :(
[01:50] <Starnestommy> ryanzec: chmod -R mode dir
[01:50] <rbil> blake__: were u editing an existing saved file or writing one from scratch?
[01:50] <Dangermike> cjae, this is what you should see with dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58829/
[01:50] <soundray> zdux00tv: if not, the installation link ^^ will guide you
[01:50] <blake__> i was editing an existing saved file...
[01:50] <NW2190> is there a way to boot from an ISO located on your hardrive?
[01:50] <blake__> but it has an * next to the name
[01:51] <blake__> i think that means its not saved
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: the computer currently has gOS installed, and grub is installed
[01:51] <soundray> ryanzec: use chown/chmod with -R -- read the manpages so you know what you're doing
[01:51] <Dangermike> NW2190, use vmware else burn it
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: thanks for your help
[01:51] <soundray> zdux00tv: you need grub on the USB HD as well
[01:51] <rbil> blake__: well then on the positive side, you'll only lose what you didn't get an opportunity to save. the one on the hardrive will still be there
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: ahh,, that might be it
[01:51] <blake__> no, thats what i need
[01:51] <NW2190> Dangermike: ok i'll try that
[01:52] <blake__> what i didnt save, is there nothing i can do?
[01:52] <zdux00tv> soundray: any way to tell? I can see some files on it
[01:52] <Dangermike> man im lagging horribly
[01:52] <blake__> i will be in tons of trouble if i dont get that unsaved info
[01:52] <rbil> blake__: that only means the changes you made during that editing session haven't been saved. original file is still there
[01:52] <blake__> :(
[01:52] <blake__> yes, i know.
[01:52] <blake__> its still a huge problem
[01:52] <Bradley> another question what is Ubuntu better on... FAT32 or NTFS
[01:52] <soundray> zdux00tv: if you didn't consciously put it in the MBR, it won't be there. Use the link ^^
[01:52] <blake__> rbil, what can i do?
[01:52] <Dangermike> Bradley, not NTFS rofl
[01:52] <blake__> is it lost for sure?
[01:52] <zdux00tv> soundray: I think that's it then thanks
[01:53] <Bradley> ?
[01:53] <blake__> caps lock and num lock dont work, but f lock does
[01:53] <blake__> wtf
[01:53] <rbil> blake__: well if you can somehow get to a terminal session, which might not be possible if the whole system is locked up, you might be able to do a mem dump and get that stuff
[01:53] <Dangermike> Bradley,  its best on ext3 or ext2
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: You mean install ubuntu on ?
[01:53] <cjae> Dangermike, brb company
[01:53] <ryanzec> thnaks, i actually found the way of doing in with the GUI
[01:53] <Starnestommy> blake__: I think some editors automatically save to a temporary file of some sort while editing, but I don't know if gedit does
[01:53] <Bradley> yes
[01:53] <blake__> jesus
[01:53] <Bradley> i have windows vista and can it install fine with NTFS on the same harddisk?
[01:53] <blake__> Starnestommy, can you help me?
[01:53] <rbil> blake__: try some of the obvious now, like unplugging keyboard and replugging and see whether you can get back the keyboard
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: Don't. Use ext3
[01:54] <Thingymebob> blake theres agood chance theres an automatic save in the same directory (probably hidden precededwith a .) or with same ame and ending with ~
[01:54] <Bradley> how, all Windows Vista has is NTFS
[01:54] <soundray> blake__: no invoking deities please. Didn't follow the whole conversation -- do you know about safe MagicSysRq rebooting?
[01:54] <Dangermike> anybody know how to fix seg faults with all browsers when flash is loaded (specifically firefox)?
[01:54] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: You will create a nes partition with a ext3 format. Windows will still be on the ntfs partition
[01:54] <blake__> im so fucked
[01:54] <leo_rockw> Bradley: ntfs == poo
[01:54] <blake__> :9
[01:54] <blake__> i need to get that document
[01:54] <blake__> it was a password, i cant lose it
[01:54] <leo_rockw> blake__: try to keep the channel family friendly
[01:54] <blake__> sorry
[01:55] <sotero> vista is bad
[01:55] <soundray> blake__: don't let your frustration spoil your good manners
[01:55] <blake__> ok, i am sorry
[01:55] <blake__> just please if anybody has any ideas
[01:55] <Bradley> ok, but will Ubuntu's installer take care of this or do i need to?
[01:55] <blake__> i checked, and ssh is disabled
[01:55] <rbil> blake__: take a deep breath and don't turn off computer by hardware switch just yet
[01:55] <leo_rockw> Bradley: you could take care of it, or you can use gparted on the ubuntu live cd
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: The installed will take care of most of it.
[01:55] <rbil> blake__: possible the os is still running and only X has crashed
[01:55] <sotero> bradley need swap
[01:55] <soundray> blake__: which editor were you using?
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> *intsller
[01:55] <blake__> gedit
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | Bradley read this..
[01:55] <ubotu> Bradley read this..: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:55] <rbil> soundray: gedit
[01:56] <dabbill> any one familar with StartUp-Manager? the only startup screen i can get to work is the default one that comes with it
[01:56] <blake__> i was using gedit soundray
[01:56] <rbil> soundray: desktop locked up
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: what did you do?
[01:56] <alanlindsay> hi
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: For starters it is best to use the slider option in the installer.
[01:56] <blake__> i was using vmware, and it went grey, and then the entire desktop froze
[01:56] <soundray> rbil, blake__: no way of getting a text console?
[01:56] <blake__> i dont think so soundray
[01:56] <blake__> not without ssh, right?
[01:56] <rbil> soundray: he says no
[01:56] <Bradley> right, but the least it will take is 48 percent of my harddrive
[01:56] <soundray> blake__: you've tried Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[01:57] <Bradley> for the partition
[01:57] <alanlindsay> could anyone help me with triple booting mac/xp/ubuntu?
[01:57] <blake__> yes, all of those
[01:57] <Bradley> which, is way to much
[01:57] <shadowhywind> hay all quick question, When i am in a text edior, and hit tab it leaves a small little comma looking thing, How do i remove that?
[01:57] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process kondemand/0? It has a high priority.
[01:57] <leo_rockw> blake__: ctrl alt esc? (is that the correct combo for kill in gnome?)
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: Try booting into windows and defragging before partitioning. And BACKUP!
[01:57] <soundray> blake__: can you still do a VM snapshot?
[01:57] <rbil> leo_rockw: no it is not, anyway keyboard locked up
[01:57] <blake__> somebody told me to unplug my kbd and now it wont work
[01:58] <Bradley> ok, thanks
[01:58] <blake__> no, its not vmware thats frozen, its the host machine for vmware
[01:58] <blake__> well i think vmware is what did it
[01:58] <leo_rockw> rbil: oh, right...
[01:58] <Starnestommy> it sounds like the cpu or bios is hanging up
[01:58] <Bradley> one more thing, is there any faster Defragger than Vista's cause that thing is SLOW
[01:58] <Starnestommy> if not just the os
[01:58] <blake__> does anybody know if gedit saves everything as i type?
[01:58] <blake__> or not/
[01:58] <joshritger> how do i change settings with compiz (I enabled extra effects under the appearance menu) and how do I choose a compiz theme?
[01:58] <Dangermike> How does one stop seg faults, specifically in firefox, when going to a website that has some sort of flash embedded?
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> blake__: not
[01:58] <blake__> :(
[01:58] <blake__> their must be something i can do...
[01:58] <Dangermike> joshritger, ccsm
[01:58] <rbil> blake__: as I said, might get to it looking at what's cached in ram, but you'll need to get to a terminal to do so
[01:59] <blake__> i dont think i can get a terminal
[01:59] <leo_rockw> Bradley: linux doesn't need defraggers, so i doubt anyone knows about ntfs defraggers here
[01:59] <blake__> caps lock does not light up, nor does num lock, just F lock
[01:59] <bullgard4> Welche Funktion hat der Prozess kondemand/0? Er hat eine hohe Priorität.
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: This is not really the place to be asking about windows stuff. I for one have no idea...
[01:59] <bullgard4> Welche Funktion hat der Prozess kondemand/0? Er hat eine hohe Priorität.
[01:59] <blake__> so much for linux stability
[01:59] <Thingymebob> blake - have you tried plain alt+f2 to see if  you can get a run application dialog
[01:59] <Bradley> ok thanks
[01:59] <Dangermike> !ccsm | joshritger
[01:59] <ubotu> joshritger: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:59] <dabbill> when i try to change usplash themes to any thing other then the default in startup-manager all i get is a black screen on shutdown and startup.
[02:00] <soundray> bullgard4: English please, and patience please
[02:00] <blake__> no, but i tried ctrl alt f1
[02:00] <blake__> and now my keybd wont work at all
[02:00] <Bradley> leo_rockw : why doesnt it need defraggers
[02:00] <blake__> cuz it is USB
[02:00] <rbil> blake__: something is really wrong because Ubuntu DOES NOT normally lock up like this.
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> !defrag | Bradley
[02:00] <ubotu> Bradley: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[02:00] <soundray> bullgard4: I believe it scales your CPU frequency
[02:00] <leo_rockw> Bradley: read this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/defragment/index.php?lang=
[02:00] <blake__> well what can i do?]
[02:00] <corny> \leave
[02:00] <blake__> this is horrible
[02:00] <blake__> :[
[02:00] <Bradley> oh, cool
[02:00] <soundray> blake__: what OS is the host?
[02:00] <Bradley> thanks
[02:00] <joshritger> Dangermike: Thanks, I was just about to ask what ccsm was
[02:01] <blake__> the host OS is ubuntu, the guest is XP
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: maybe you should actually dual boot, instead of vmware?
[02:01] <blake__> no, ubuntu is the host os
[02:01] <blake__> i was using vmware in ubuntu, and thats what froze i think
[02:01] <sfears> does anyone know what the default attributes are supposed to be for the /dev/nvidia0 file?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: so what happens when you power down and restart?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> sorry i've not followed this.
[02:01] <blake__> i dont know, i cant try
[02:01] <blake__> cuz i will lose my text document
[02:01] <blake__> :[
[02:01] <rbil> problem is that blake__ 's X has locked up for some reason. possibly something with VMWare or video drivers
[02:02] <soundray> blake__: do you still see it on screen?
[02:02] <Gary_inNYC> blake can you ctrl+alt+backspace and relog in?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> oh, well, you're probably hosed there, how important is this document?
[02:02] <Gary_inNYC> oh nvm you got a doc open
[02:02] <blake__> i see vmware on screen, but it went grey, just before the system locked up
[02:02] <rbil> Gary_inNYC: that would kill gedit if he could do that
[02:02] <tokyoahead> guys I have a SB audigy ZS but I wont hear ANY sound from it... any idea?
[02:02] <soundray> blake__: what about your important document?
[02:02] <blake__> its in the tray
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: is this text file in vmware, or on the host OS?
[02:02] <blake__> oh, on the host OS
[02:02] <blake__> sorry
[02:03] <blake__> :]
[02:03] <dabbill> when i try to change usplash themes to any thing other then the default in startup-manager all i get is a black screen on shutdown and startup.
[02:03] <rbil> IndyGunFreak: it's in gedit, so what do u think?
[02:03] <blake__> he may not have heard that XP was the guest os
[02:03] <blake__> heh
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> rbil: well, if i needed a smartass answer, i'd have asked, i said a second ago i hadn't followed all of this.
[02:03] <alanlindsay> apple tripleboot anyone?
[02:03] <blake__> i cant believe it, this was such horrible timing
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, this is probably gonna be a lesson in why you should make incremental savefs
[02:04] <blake__> i really need help
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> *saves
[02:04] <rbil> IndyGunFreak: didn't see what u said a second ago, as you didn't see what he'd said a few seconds prior to that I guess :-)
[02:04] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: lol, don't be so sensitive, it was an honest enquiry about your opinion :)
[02:04] <blake__> i have the password for a steam account in that text doc, if i lose it i lost close to $200 worth of games
[02:04] <blake__> :[
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol, trust me, i'm not the sensitive type, but i certainly need someone making smartass remarks to me, i listen tot hat crap all day
[02:05] <blake__> does gedit auto save every once in a while?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: geez man, don't you keep backups?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: pretty unlikely
[02:05] <blake__> should i leave the machine running? hope it auto saves?
[02:05] <rbil> blake__: no
[02:05] <blake__> i had just typed the password in
[02:05] <blake__> and then the machine crashed
[02:05] <rbil> blake__: it won't autosave, but it might give a little time recover enuf to get to a terminal
[02:05] <ryanzec> I am trying to delete eclipse project files but i can't see them, are they hidden?  if so how do i see hidden files?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> so how are you here now?
[02:06] <blake__> i would have to reboot for a terminal
[02:06] <blake__> :[
[02:06] <rbil> blake__: it will still be sitting in your RAM
[02:06] <blake__> after i reboot?
[02:06] <rbil> blake__: then it'll be outta RAM
[02:06] <rbil> you cannot reboot
[02:06] <blake__> well i dont think i can get terminal otherwise
[02:06] <blake__> tbh
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, hopefully you learned your lesson
[02:06] <blake__> yeah, linux is no more stable than windows
[02:06] <arrow> I just installed tremulous and when I play it I get a really blurry screen, but everything else is fine, any help?
[02:07] <rbil> hey people, if he doesn't have sshd running, any possibility of telnet giving him access. I doubt it, but maybe?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, you've clearly not learned the intended lesson.. as thats horse crap
[02:07] <leo_rockw> blake__: that's not the lesson
[02:07] <blake__> this is just a default install of ubuntu rbil
[02:07] <Dangermike> dabbill, i used a program to manage my boot splash screens it went black on me because the file was no longer in the correct directory i used this program although its not supported by ubuntu http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391
[02:07] <rbil> blake__: i'm asking because I never use telenet and don't know if it's availabel and accessable via default install
[02:07] <sfears> is anyone in here using nvidia drivers?
[02:08] <blake__> no
[02:08] <blake__> i just tried
[02:08] <rbil> telnet
[02:08] <Starnestommy> sfears: I am
[02:08] <leo_rockw> arrow: can you show us a snapshot?
[02:08] <david_> im using n vidia drivers
[02:08] <david_> sfears
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> sfears: probably a lot of people are
[02:08] <blake__> if i lose that document i am so screwed
[02:08] <sfears> will you "ls -l /dev/nvidia0" and let me know what the output is?
[02:08] <Gary_inNYC> speaking of games, anyone here play warsow and can tell me how to install from the 0.42 "unified" zip?
[02:08] <mandrig> ls
[02:08] <blake__> $200 out the window, because of an unstable OS
[02:08] <mandrig> oops
[02:08] <blake__> :[
[02:08] <mandrig> wrong window, lol
[02:08] <leo_rockw> blake__: yeah, you shoulda bought vista for that money... oh, wait, no... it's more expensive
[02:08] <Starnestommy> sfears: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 2008-02-15 16:13 /dev/nvidia0
[02:09] <rbil> blake__: I don't know wht to say at this point. I always have sshd setup for just such cases
[02:09] <sfears> yeah.. that's what mine is too.. damn
[02:09] <blake__> i will have to run sshd from now on now as well
[02:09] <blake__> even if just behind an NAT
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: an *unstable OS* has nothing to do with it, the problem is pounding on the keyboard complaining right now
[02:09] <arrow> leo_rockw: it won't let me use printscreen, is there another way?
[02:09] <mandrig> where is the trash dir in ubuntu?
[02:09] <blake__> well i just lost $200
[02:09] <blake__> because of ubuntu
[02:09] <mandrig> like what folder is it in?
[02:09] <Starnestommy> blake__: do you think you can remember the password?
[02:09] <sfears> i'm getting an I/O error with that file when i enable nvidia drivers.. any have any idea what that could be?
[02:09] <Starnestommy> mandrig: ~/.Trash
[02:09] <blake__> no, it was random numbers and letters
[02:09] <soundray> blake__: try Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen-R -- this should take the keyboard away from X. Then you can switch to a console.
[02:09] <blake__> so i wont remember it
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: no, its not because of ubuntu, how many times do you have to be told that?.. you failed to make a proper backup
[02:09] <leo_rockw> arrow: why not? are you in full screen? try alt+enter
[02:10] <ggbs> hello
[02:10] <dabbill> Dangermike, does that change the grub screen? or the ubuntu loading screen?
[02:10] <rbil> blake__: you'll have to contact whomever sold u the password, explain the prob and try to get them to help you with a reissue
[02:10] <ggbs> is compiz on the Ubuntu 7.10 CD?
[02:10] <blake__> its steam
[02:10] <blake__> they wont do anything unless you have the original credit card
[02:10] <leo_rockw> ggbs: compiz comes with ubuntu 7.10 yes
[02:10] <blake__> which i dont anymore
[02:10] <arrow> leo_rockw, when I pushed alt+enter it went away
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: desktop effects is, but you can install compiz settings pretty easily
[02:10] <ggbs> what is the minimum video card req
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: are you using Nvidia or ATI?
[02:10] <leo_rockw> arrow: it should switch to a window... how weird
[02:11] <ggbs> i have both actually
[02:11] <arrow> leo_rockw: I meant the blurryness
[02:11] <ggbs> 2 systems
[02:11] <blake__> unfucking believeable, i just rebooted, maybe its still in their
[02:11] <lwizardl> hi
[02:11] <leo_rockw> arrow: oh, kewl, haha
[02:11] <blake__> otherwise im done
[02:11] <arrow> lol
[02:11] <blake__> :[[[[[
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> well, which one are you wanting to run compiz w/?  nvidia will probably be easier.
[02:11] <leo_rockw> blake__: stop swearing. that's your 2nd warning
[02:11] <ggbs> both :)
[02:11] <lwizardl> anyone using a dell dimension 2400 ?
[02:11] <soundray> blake__: why didn't you listen to my advice?
[02:11] <ggbs> me and my bros
[02:11] <RoAkSoAx> no se todavia
[02:11] <rbil> blake__: well, sorry that you couldn't get more help here. When your system screws up like this, unless you've pre-planned some backup measures, I guess you just learned an expensive lesson.
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: you're still blaming he OS i see?
[02:11] <arrow> leo_rockw, I think I'll just play it in a window, I'm lazy like that
[02:12] <ggdb> what is the minimum 128mb?
[02:12] <arrow> thx for help leo_rockw
[02:12] <leo_rockw> arrow: if that works for you, then fine lol
[02:12] <ggdb> or 64mb?
[02:12] <leo_rockw> arrow: my pleasure
[02:12] <ggdb> 32mb
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> ggdb: for the OS, or for the video card?
[02:12] <ggbs> to run compiz (video card)
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: not 100% sure, i would imagine at least 64
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> probably 128 would be ideal
[02:13] <Gary_inNYC> anyone here play warsow?  i want to install from the "unified" zip file, but all I see are windows binaries
[02:13] <mandrig> how do you delete files in term?
[02:13] <soundray> mandrig: with rm
[02:13] <mandrig> thanks
[02:14] <soundray> !cli > mandrig, please read the private message from ubotu
[02:14] <ready> this script migth be interesting for ppl using yakuake or konsole with tabs: https://dev.sitea.cc/Pub/scripts/tab
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: any luck?
[02:15] <leo_rockw> ready: what does it do? i use yakuake all the time
[02:15] <ready> you can config it to open eg 5 tabs with different titles executing different commands
[02:16] <blake__> nope
[02:16] <blake__> it has the old password
[02:16] <blake__> this is so horrible
[02:16] <blake__> i am done with ubuntu, windows actually never did this to me
[02:16] <leo_rockw> blake__: ok bye
[02:16] <ready> i hate it after every reboot open all the tabs and change the paths for my environment
[02:16] <blake__> it may have gotten spyware, but thats because people actually wrote spyware for it because more than 0.00001% of the world used it
[02:16] <leo_rockw> ready: i'll save it and take a look at it. thank you
[02:17] <tokyoahead> guys does anyone else have problems getting rhythmbox to shuffle songs in a playlist?
[02:17] <soundray> blake__: blame whoever you want to, but do stay on topic
[02:17] <blake__> goodbye ubuntu, may you die a slow and painful death
[02:17] <soundray> blake__: and do get in touch with the steam people, they must be flexible in a situation like that
[02:17] <leo_rockw> let's not feed the troll, shall we?
[02:17] <blake__> not when the account didn't belong to you
[02:17] <DOOM_NX> how do i install edubuntu on a kubuntu installation? sudo apt-get install edubuntu-dekstop ?
[02:17] <blake__> they're not flexible
[02:18] <crf> hi
[02:18] <PriceChild> !offtopic | blake__
[02:18] <ubotu> blake__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <nickrud> blake__: drop it, please. No one here is happy what happened, but there's nothing they can do
[02:18] <blake__> ubuntu is nothing more than a con
[02:18] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: if you want gnome, if you want kde it's edubuntu-desktop-kde
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: once again, you complain about the OS, when your failure to keep a current backup, is the main issue.
[02:18] <soundray> blake__: so, ask the person who the account belongs to to get in touch
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> well that was fun..lol
[02:18] <Bradley> blake__: that sucks man... i feel you Ubuntu, wipped out one of my kernel files on my laptop... im trying to get it working now
[02:18] <DOOM_NX> aaaawww
[02:18] <YouKnowM1> I am having trouble making Evolution notify me of new mail, I get static. Help?
[02:19] <DOOM_NX> if i have Kubuntu and choose edubuntu-desktop-kde, it downloads less?
[02:19] <ready> np leo_rockw
[02:19] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: i would believe so, since you already have the qt libraries and not the gtk ones
[02:19] <DOOM_NX> i'm stupid
[02:19] <tokyoahead> guys does anyone else have problems getting rhythmbox to shuffle songs in a playlist?
[02:19] <DOOM_NX> stupid
[02:19] <chetnick> hi, which program are you using for burning cd, dvd, image ?
[02:19] <DOOM_NX> stupid
[02:19] <sfears> FIXED!.. i was getting I/O errors with the /dev/nvidia0 file.. couldn't boot unless i reconfigured xserver using vesa drivers.. i deleted the /dev/nvidia0 file & rebooted after enabling restriced drivers.. it recreated the file & now works fine.
[02:20] <[sigh]> how do I get ubuntu or X11 or whatever's in charge to never again use 24-bit depth? my display doesn't support it =/
[02:20] <leo_rockw> chetnick: i'm on kde, i use k3b. i heard brasero is good for gnome
[02:20] <Gary_inNYC> can someone here help me install Warsow 0.42 in gutsy?  after flipping through screenies, i really wanna try out the game
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> chetnick: use gnomebaker for Gnome... its good.
[02:20] <YouKnowM1> chetnick: I'm on Gnome and I use Gnomebaker
[02:20] <leo_rockw> [sigh]: you would have to edit xorg.conf
[02:20] <chetnick> thanks everybody :)
[02:20] <[sigh]> tried that, but it resets when I try to change the resolution
[02:21] <YouKnowM1> I am having trouble making Evolution notify me of new mail, I get static noise. Help?
[02:21] <kexp903> I need help with wireless can anyone help
[02:21] <soundray> [sigh]: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' -- you can permanently disable 24bit through there
[02:21] <Bradley> ok, i am installing linux on another computer now, and it will take no lower than 48% of its drive
[02:22] <Bradley> why is this?
[02:22] <Stwange> does 64 bit ubuntu have *any* advantages?
[02:22] <DOOM_NX> while it was downloading edubuntu-desktop i pressed Ctrl+C so it stopped. have i done anything wrong?
[02:22] <leo_rockw> Stwange: if you have 4gb or more of ram, then yes
[02:22] <sfears> 48% of the selected partition Bradley?
[02:22] <soundray> Stwange: faster memory I/O, access > 3GB
[02:22] <[sigh]> I tried dpkg-reconfigure, and it didn't use 24-bit anymore, but I couldn't change the resolution either
[02:22] <Bradley> yep sfears
[02:22] <kexp903> My computer is right next to the wireless hotspot but it's at 70%
[02:22] <YouKnowM1> Stwange: For me video editing was much faster, thats just me though
[02:23] <kexp903> what should I do, is there a better wireless  manager out there?
[02:23] <sfears> sounds like you picked a small partition
[02:23] <[sigh]> whenever I tried to change it, the config would just quit with no message and no results
[02:23] <Stwange> ok, I'm not going to be video editing, I have 1GB of ram, and all it has done is cause me firefox issues. I might reinstall with 32bit
[02:23] <Bradley> no i didnt have any it the partition manager sfears
[02:23] <leo_rockw> Stwange: that's probably a good idea
[02:23] <tokyoahead> guys does anyone else have problems getting rhythmbox to shuffle songs in a playlist?
[02:24] <soundray> Stwange: you might, although I personally don't have any trouble with 32bit programs in 64bit Ubuntu anymore since gutsy came out
[02:24] <YouKnowM1> kexp903: If you want true readings on signal strength then bust out a terminal and do "iwconfig" without the quotes
[02:24] <sfears> sounds like it's telling you it's going to take 500megs of a 1gig drive to install
[02:24] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: if you stopped it the installation never finished and you will have to end it properly
[02:24] <Stwange> soundray, I upgraded to gutsy from 7.07 (ie. not a clean reinstall) and it just gave me a whole load of nightmares with firefox and vmware
[02:24] <sfears> either get a bigger hard drive or format a bigger partition
[02:25] <DOOM_NX> leo_rockw, i want to cancel it
[02:25] <Bradley> no the drive is 500 gvs sfears
[02:25] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: ctrl+c didn't work?
[02:25] <kexp903> -youknowM1 the signal is weaker now I think it is getting weaker by the seconds
[02:25] <Bradley> would it just be a glitch or should i restart?
[02:25] <orudie> can anyone recommend whoi i should register a domain name with ?
[02:25] <Exodus> [sigh], your X server configuration file is in: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; inside the xorg.conf file is the configuration of your monitor and video card, I can send you a sample xorg.conf with so you can see how to set up a 16bit depth, 1024x768 800x600 alternative set up if you like.
[02:25] <sfears> that doesn't mean the partition is that big.. you may be tring to install onto a 1gig partition
[02:25] <soundray> Stwange: I definitely won't stop you from re-installing :)
[02:25] <Bradley> ok ill check that out but i never partitioned the drive sfears
[02:26] <kexp903_> youknowM1: the signal is weaker now I think it is getting weaker by the seconds
[02:26] <Stwange> orudie, 1and1 are cheap if you are just registering
[02:26] <[sigh]> I've editted xorg.conf already, including setting DefaultDepth, and if I change the resolution (from the gui at least), it tries to use 24-bit again
[02:26] <sfears> partitioning is the first part of the install
[02:26] <soundray> kexp903: is it a Ralink Technology chipset?
[02:26] <YouKnowM1> kexp903: idk, then it might be your hardware. A driver issue or controller problem wouldn't cause that.
[02:26] <sfears> you have to format something before anything will install
[02:26] <[sigh]> it shows up correctly for now, but it goes back to 24-bit when I change the resolution
[02:26] <kexp903> YouKnowM1: broadcom
[02:26] <Bradley> well it never did the partition, its just asking me to partition
[02:27] <Exodus> [sigh], in the xorg.conf, you have to make it so only 16bit exists, and 24bit is non existant
[02:27] <sfears> how many partitions are listed?
[02:27] <Exodus> I'll pastebin the screen section, where the resolution and depth is held, for a 16bit configuration.
[02:28] <Bradley> sfears: well im using the first option the automatic one
[02:28] <YouKnowM1> kexp903, Sorry I really don't know how to help you. Except make sure your antennas are straight up and your aren't blocking any of them. Or you don't have a microwave running, halogen lamps ect. ect.
[02:28] <sfears> is there anything on that drive that your trying to save?? or is it brand new?
[02:29] <Exodus> [sigh], don pay attention to the identifier and such, do pay attention to the default depth and modes: http://pastebin.com/m2514738f
[02:29] <Bradley> sfears: well, it has windows on it but thats all
[02:29] <sfears> that's your problem
[02:29] <Exodus> [sigh], See how there's only a 16bit depth configured, that's what you should have.
[02:29] <sfears> it's saving windows.. which is more than likly using most of the space
[02:30] <Bradley> sfears: well i have used 100 gb out of the 500 gb harddrive
[02:30] <sfears> it's trying to install on the little bit of space not being used by windows.. you either need to reallocate the windows partition to make some room for linux or erase the entire drive & repartition from there
[02:30] <Bradley> sfears: okay i think iget it, because windows is spread out on the drive
[02:30] <[sigh]> mine says "Defaultdepth 16", "Depth 16", and modes ranging from 800x600 to 1280x800@60
[02:31] <Exodus> [sigh], and no 24bit right?
[02:31] <sfears> i could be wrong.. because i'm not looking at what your working with
[02:31] <[sigh]> correct, I edited that out weeks ago
[02:31] <Exodus> [sigh], so when does it go 24bit then? when you do what exactly?
[02:31] <Bradley> sfears: ill make the partition in windows, then come back and see what happens
[02:31] <sfears> nah.. that's not how to do it
[02:32] <Bradley> sfears: what should i do?
[02:32] <deadlyallance613> what are the guidelines for partition sizes
[02:32] <sfears> when you use the linux installer.. it will bring you to a partition manager.. you have to either erase everything & use the automatic.. or use the manual and possibly move some things around
[02:32] <[sigh]> if I change the resolution, to say 1024x768 in system->administration->screens and graphics, the display shows up all wrong
[02:32] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, no guidelines really, just a bunch of suggestions, like, /home on a different partition is always good.
[02:33] <Bradley> sfears: i have there is only one partition, but when i do automatic it want to take soo much space
[02:33] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, / should have at least 5gb so you can install stuff.
[02:33] <mouseboyx> What are the tv capture cards that someone knows for a fact work with ubuntu or linux mce?
[02:33] <sfears> use the manual.. it should give you an option to resize the windows partition
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> mouseboyx: I use a pVR150... it works well, but the remote doesn't work, so i change channels w/ a terminal script
[02:33] <sfears> manual instead of automatic
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | mouseboyx
[02:33] <ubotu> mouseboyx: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:34] <Bradley> sfears: ok
[02:34] <Exodus> [sigh], change it from System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[02:34] <mohadib> even mens
[02:34] <Bradley> i wil
[02:34] <soundray> mouseboyx: Hauppauge works closely with free software developers -- most of their cards work
[02:34] <deadlyallance613> exodus i have about 68 gig and ive herd i should have 2x ram for swap and primery should be ext2 and extended should be ext3 right?
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> yup, Hauppage is good.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:34] <st1650> How would I do a recursive bash script to chmod -R 1777 a folder ?
[02:34] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, well, that depends, a swap partition is always needed, but how linux works, it will only use the swap when you're out of ram, or some programs use it, like the hibernating function
[02:35] <sfears> i have no idea st1650
[02:35] <Bradley> sfears: wow Ubuntu is installin fast... 48 percent already
[02:35] <soundray> st1650: why? -R already tells it to recurse
[02:35] <Bradley> !!!
[02:35] <ka2> deadlyallance613: primary should be ext3
[02:35] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, so, if you like to be able to "hibernate", keep your swap at least the size of your RAM
[02:35] <sfears> sounds like you have a pretty fast computer Bradley
[02:35] <kalani> test
[02:35] <st1650> soundray: I mean, like  1: chmod -R 777 /foo/bar  then GOTO1
[02:35] <[sigh]> hmm, that's working this time... last time I tried changing it in preferences it had no effect
[02:35] <soundray> kalani: that hasn't worked
[02:35] <kalani> <- Sorry, Newb
[02:36] <Bradley> sfears: not that fast, but damn, faster than windows vista... that rebooted once when installin
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i doubt its 48% COMPLETE all ready, i think it installs the kernel, then installs all the software.
[02:36] <soundray> kalani: nope, can't read you at all
[02:36] <Bradley> sfears: lol
[02:36] <kalani> how do i fix that?
[02:36] <soundray> st1650: what are you trying to achieve?
[02:36] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: maybe, i started a bit agot, but it say Installing System and the Copying Files
[02:36] <soundray> kalani: you're coming through faintly. Strike your keys harder
[02:37] <sfears> hi kalani.. i can read you
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: ok, then you're actually installing now.. it usually takes about 10-15min for me..
[02:37] <joshritger> how do i get themes to work with compiz, I have ccsm installed, but how do i switch themes, do i need emerald
[02:37] <soundray> kalani: sorry -- just pulling your leg
[02:37] <kalani> weird, this better?
[02:37] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, if you have enough ram (say 2gb or more) and you don't really care much about "hibernating" with 1gb of swap is enough, all depends on what you plan on doing. If you're going to be encoding huge files, then well, you'll want to calculate all that.
[02:37] <kalani> haha, i know, it's still fun though...
[02:37] <soundray> kalani: wow, now you're bold
[02:38] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: Well its not moving as fast as b4 but its at 63... so yeah!
[02:38] <st1650> soundray: long story short; /storage1 is my /dev/sda4 partition for music storage. My hellanzb daemon downloads and transmission automatically downloads music from RSS scheduler; Now this music is automatically imported and indexed on ampache running lighttpd. My problem is this: lighttpd can't index the music unless I chmod 777 the /storage folder each time I get a new download, so I would fix the problem with some kind of auto-chmod every second
[02:38] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: hey just wondering should i duel boot to windows, use a VM... and if so should windows be the host or guest OS?
[02:38] <kalani> so, what happens here? never used this chat sys before
[02:38] <leo_rockw> Bradley: do you really need windows?
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: if you need windows, i would recommend dual booting
[02:39] <nickrud> kalani: bunches and bunches of channels, this is the help channel for ubuntu. #ubuntu-offtopic is for chatter, and   ircsearch.com will find you just about any group you want to talk to
[02:39] <sfears> well kalani this is an ubuntu help channel.. if you have an issue.. type it in and if someone here can help you out they will
[02:39] <Bradley> leo_rockw: lol, yes... for about everything i do... I Luv Microsoft Word... Powerpoint... Itunes, C++ etc
[02:39] <soundray> st1650: I see. 'while true ; do chmod -R 777 /foo/bar ; sleep 1 ; done'. Dirty hack, though
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> i personally haven't had much luck w/ Vmware... blake___ left, but you might want to search the logs for his issues..lol
[02:39] <lazerquestion> yo!! i got a laser printer quesiton. has anyone here personally used one with linux?
[02:39] <Breakage> lol
[02:39] <leo_rockw> Bradley: openoffice, amarok. C++
[02:39] <st1650> soundray: I know, but believe me I tried everything
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: there's some Linux alternatives to Itunes
[02:40] <lazerquestion> i'm debating whether to go with one that goes directly to the computer, (usb or parallel) or just go right out and buy a network laser printer.
[02:40] <Bradley> IndyGunFrek: yeah i saw him, he was talkiing about that for a while
[02:40] <st1650> And unless I run httpd as root (very very bad idea)
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: yes he was..lol
[02:40] <kalani> cool
[02:40] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, if you already own a printer, you can just purchase a small print server (allows a non-network printer to be addressable via ethernet)
[02:40] <sfears> kalani.. this whole network is pretty much just a chat/help network.. but there are lots of networks out there that easilly help you violate international copywright laws... those are the fun ones
[02:40] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: lol
[02:40] <Unknown> yHello ubuntu users!
[02:40] <soundray> st1650: that bash loop should work, though.
[02:40] <Bradley> leo_rockw: right, but Visual C++ is a must, for stuff im doing... im just trying to test some applications under multibal OS's
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: it was kinda hard not to laugh at him, i know he was frustrated, but geez.. it was his own ignorance.
[02:41] <kalani> even cooler
[02:41] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: that sucks that Steam coudnt give him the password, but i feel his pain
[02:41] <lazerquestion> i guess noones used a laser printer with linux?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: do you use Itunes to buy music, or do yo steal it like the rest of us, adn just use itunes to sync your ipod?
[02:41] <nickrud> using a password that wasn't even his, that's where I pretty much lost sympathy
[02:41] <soundray> lazerquestion: don't make assumptions, just ask your question
[02:41] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i know. you can't err and blame the OS
[02:41] <lazerquestion> soundray, i did
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: yup
[02:41] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, I answered u
[02:42] <sfears> kalani.. try typing "/list" it will list all the possible chat rooms on this particular network
[02:42] <lazerquestion> soundray, i asked wh
[02:42] <drc> reZo: Blake__ Not to mention he was mad 'cause he lost out on USD200 of someone else's games :)
[02:42] <lazerquestion> oh sorry, scollback got ahead of me
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, apparently.
[02:42] <bloo`> shazaam
[02:42] <orudie> which command is for searching a particular file ?
[02:42] <kalani> thanks
[02:42] <sfears> yup
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, the type of printer is not relevant. You can get a print server for little $ and it's about the size of a book
[02:42] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: i buy some stuff, and limewire some... but i have an Iphone, and im not sure that it sinks with anyother piece of software but Itunes yet.... also im not too much into opensource, i like the Microsoft, and thrid party touch
[02:42] <soundray> lazerquestion: go for a PostScript printer. HP are the most reliable and supportive of free software, but not the cheapest (purchase & maintenance)
[02:43] <osotogari> when creating multiple partitions should they be all primary?
[02:43] <leo_rockw> Bradley: frostwire > limewire
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: yeah, it might be best to dualboot in that situation...
[02:43] <kalani> so, what is a ubuntu
[02:43] <ryanzec> i have downloaded a login screen from gnome-look but can't seem to install it.  I go to login from system->administration and when i click add it does not show up
[02:43] <Bradley> leo_rockw: what is the diffrence, dont they use the same network
[02:43] <soundray> osotogari: no.
[02:43] <lazerquestion> soundray, YES! i'm not fully aware of what postscript is all about, or cups, or if any of it is realted. i'd love to shoot for a network laser printer so i can print stuff to my parents who live ~ 30mins away via vpn.
[02:43] <[sigh]> dualboot is a pain (to me anyway)
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i've gort a GPS device, that as hell getting to work under LInux... so after a year and a half of being windows free, I had to give Windows 20gigs fo my 200gig hard drive.. i probably boot it 2x a month
[02:43] <sfears> logical partitions can't be booted into or read without the primary partition active i think
[02:43] <leo_rockw> Bradley: limewire is capped, unless you get pro
[02:44] <Dangermike> !ubuntu | kalani
[02:44] <ubotu> kalani: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> [sigh]: really?.. its easier/more stable than vmware
[02:44] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: can you do both, a duel and a VM?
[02:44] <osotogari> @soundray: should i only have one primary partition and the rest logical?
[02:44] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, linux has a robust print driver library .. direct-print or IP-based
[02:44] <[sigh]> I hate rebooting :-p
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i don't see why you couldn't
[02:44] <soundray> osotogari: that's a reasonable thing to do.
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: might be a bit redundant
[02:44] <xecis> you could, but why would you?
[02:44] <kalani> ahhh, i'll check it
[02:44] <osotogari> @soundray: thanking you :)
[02:44] <nickrud> ah, IndyGunFreak I'm finally getting rid of my windows partition after booting it about 2x a month, don't need it anymore
[02:45] <lazerquestion> sweet. i'm tired of inkjet, they always dry up when i'm in the need to rpint something, since i print quite rarely. but i'm new to the laser world, and espeically the print/linux combination.
[02:45] <soundray> osotogari: you can have a maximum of four primary partitions, or three primary ones plus one extended. The extended holds the logical ones (I think up to 10 or 15)
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol, wish i could say that, but until Ubuntu has better support for TOMTOM, i'll have to use it
[02:45] <sfears> kalani.. ubuntu is a flavor of the OS (operating system) linux.. it's sort of like windows.. but it's not windows.. it's linux.. and it's not vista windows. it's ubuntu linux
[02:45] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: cool, hey btw linux, just found XP which i thought i didnt have anymore
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: well, apparently you do
[02:45] <nickrud> got really close once, but it sucked me back in
[02:45] <soundray> osotogari: but one primary plus one extended is a fairly standard scheme
[02:45] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, so postscript is like cups, or they're not even related?
[02:45] <Bradley> leo_rockw: wow, that sucks... frostwire it is... lol, does it
[02:45] <jadams> I've got a Toshiba Satellite A510 (or thereabouts).  I'm using Hardy Heron, latest updates applied.  It's an AMD64 system, vanilla kernel.  My mic input is nothing but static.  What can I do to troubleshoot it?
[02:46] <kolby> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: like i said, i was free for quite a while, but.. alas, had to come back.
[02:46] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, they're not related... but you can buy just about any printer on the market and linux will be able to print to it
[02:46] <nickrud> jadams: try asking on #ubuntu+1, that's hardy questions
[02:46] <osotogari> @soundray: great stuff, thanks for the help!
[02:46] <sfears> you have a dual boot system Bradley.. you might have to add a couple lines to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. but when you start your computer it will ask if you want to boot into linux or windows
[02:46] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: nm, it was just an Acer recovery thingy... but Windows Vista, is still there
[02:46] <IceWewe> hello, I'm trying to transition from an IDE hard drive to a SCSI hard drive on a workstation and I'm getting a grub error 21 or "disk not found" yet the disk is set to boot in BIOS, and I've installed and updated grub...
[02:46] <jadams> nickrud, thanks
[02:46] <sfears> it will proally set up the dual boot by itself
[02:46] <usse1>  lazerquestion: postscript is one of the languages that allows pc to communicate with printer in order to format/print page.
[02:46] <soundray> lazerquestion: postscript is a page description language. Most Linux applications generate postscript, so if you have a printer that understands it, nothing can get Lost in Translation(tm)
[02:46] <Dangermike> can anybody help with a firefox bug thats *possibly* flash related i have tried: moving the .mozilla folder, starting with new profile, -safe-mode after all of this i had to reformat for a different reason and with a new install of Gutsy this issue still persists i have tried firefox versions 2.0.0.6, 2.0.0.12, and firefox beta3. This also happens with epiphany and any other browser i install but i am focused on firefox since i have th
[02:47] <usse1> lazerquestion: its usually only implemented in expensive models, cheap ones are usually win printers
[02:47] <Bradley> sfears: it does, it was just an Acer Recovery thing that used an Win XP shell i think
[02:47] <lazerquestion> wow, crazy help. apprecaited for the info. is usb supported as good as parallel? or vice versa?
[02:47] <IceWewe> anyone for help with grub?
[02:47] <lazerquestion> usse1, that's what i'm worried about, i don't want to get a 'winmodem' equivlant in the printer world.
[02:47] <sfears> Dangermike, sounds like it might not be a firefox issue.. but an issue firefox is having with some other program
[02:47] <Exodus> IceWewe, what's the problem?
[02:47] <Dangermike> e bug report for it. Whilst testing no flash plugins (or any plugins) were installed but i have just installed the flash plugin and its still seg faulting heres the bug report link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/198301
[02:47] <sfears> what's up IceWewe
[02:47] <soundray> lazerquestion: it'll be hard to get a new parallel printer these days
[02:47] <IceWewe> Exodus: I'm trying to transition from an IDE hard drive to a SCSI hard drive on a workstation and I'm getting a grub error 21 or "disk not found" yet the disk is set to boot in BIOS, and I've installed and updated grub...
[02:48] <Bradley> sfears: linux doesnt want to enable desktop effects
[02:48] <usse1> lazerquestion: go with hewlett packard
[02:48] <Bradley> sfears: any work arounds
[02:48] <sfears> you might need to install nvidia drivers
[02:48] <IceWewe> Exodus, sfears: I've edited /etc/fstab to reflect the change from
[02:48] <sfears> what kind of video card do you have?
[02:48] <lazerquestion> so i'm assuming usb is quite supported for printers, and lasers specically?
[02:48] <Exodus> IceWewe, what's your grub.conf (menu.lst) look like?
[02:48] <usse1> lazerquestion: and if you going with lazer get a one that has network port not usb or parallel
[02:48] <lazerquestion> usse1, my idea ;)
[02:48] <Exodus> IceWewe, do you get a grub console at least? (like the one indicating what kernel to launch)
[02:48] <IceWewe> Exodus, sfears: sorry about that, I've changed it from 'hda' to 'sda' and the same thing with /boot/grub/devices.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <sfears> i wouldn't think fstab has anything to do with booting into a scsi drive
[02:49] <IceWewe> Exodus: no, I don't get to a grub console
[02:49] <Dangermike> sfears, yes i assume its something else but after a fresh install it began happening so i doubt its an issue with Gutsy in general or more people would be reporting problems  i was hoping to shead more light on what could be causing it to happen...There are about 8 bugs that are similar to mine that were closed due to a "buggy" version of gutsy being released with no other info so i dont know where to go next :\
[02:49] <Bradley> sfears: will it tell me, and also the computer i installed it on has ATI this one which im about to install on is a Nvidia, is there any prob. with ATI???
[02:49] <Exodus> IceWewe, did you do a grub-install /dev/sda ?
[02:49] <rrm> hi room... i did a minimal install  how can i access my usb drive?
[02:49] <soundray> Dangermike: you may have more than one flash player installed. Remove all flash-related packages, do a 'locate libflashplayer.so', delete them all, and re-install with apt-get.
[02:49] <usse1> lazerquestion: it's the only true interface anyway :P
[02:49] <sfears> not problems Bradley but you have to download and install restricted drivers
[02:49] <Dangermike> soundray, theirs no trace of that on my system
[02:49] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes, multiple times
[02:50] <IceWewe> Exodus: all met with "success"
[02:50] <icesword> rrm, you said hi room? ohh,how to access your usb,is it attached
[02:50] <Bradley> sfears: at the ATI site?
[02:50] <lazerquestion> usse1, that's what i'ms hoting for, network printer. i got everything installed, from win2k, winxp, linux, free and openbsd, and also got i386 and sparc64 in the mix, so, i think i need a network only printer, hehe
[02:50] <soundray> Dangermike: also remove any gnash or swf-player packages
[02:50] <Exodus> IceWewe, so basically when you boot that hard drive you get an inmediate black screen with an error? what does it say?
[02:50] <sfears> search synaptic for nvidia or ati.. whichever one you need.. and make sure  you also install the restricted drivers manger.. once installed system/administration/restricted drivers manager.. and make sure nvidia/ati is enabled.. reboot &  your extra desktop effects should work
[02:51] <IceWewe> Exodus: Grub loading stage 1.5 ... Grub Error 21
[02:51] <rrm> icesword... i do not have the graph... i did server install with x and fluxbox only
[02:51] <lazerquestion> i'd just hate to buy one and find out it doesn't work.
[02:51] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, what you using the BSD boxes for? (curious)
[02:51] <icesword> rrm, k,that is ok,now,is it attached to machine
[02:51] <usse1> lazerquestion: don't worry hp will work
[02:52] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, freebsd's my fileserver, 4tb, and i have 2 openbsd boxes, ones for tcp/ip routeing/firewalling, and the other one is a transparent bridge between the firewall and my cable modem.
[02:52] <Bradley> sfears: ok
[02:52] <sfears> i don't think i'd be much help IceWewe i don't know anything about scsi.. i'd say /dev/sda would be the setting to use though
[02:52] <IceWewe> sfears: ok, thanks!
[02:52] <Bossmanbeta> 4tb fileserver, ... what you serving? :)
[02:52] <icesword> rrm, usually sudo mount -a
[02:52] <sfears> with 4tb.. what isn't he serving
[02:53] <lazerquestion> hehe, hash tables. and i also like to keep a hawks eye on what's going in/out of my network.
[02:53] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, error 21 is when a hard drive was not detected by bios, or was called incorrectly.
[02:53] <Bossmanbeta> hash tables? You running chess-servers? hash tables for what?
[02:53] <Exodus> IceWewe, you could possibly have a bad grub.conf / menu.lst
[02:53] <usse1> lazerquestion: what do you use for vpn?
[02:53] <lazerquestion> usse1, openbsd;;; Bossmanbeta  wpa ;)
[02:53] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: no drugs related discussion please
[02:54] <lazerquestion> haha, hash
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, very funny :P
[02:54] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: (just kidding)
[02:54] <nickrud> badaboom
[02:54] <IceWewe> Exodus: I doubt it, as the same one works correctly with the IDE drive
[02:54] <lazerquestion> so you guys think HP all the way?
[02:54] <zdux00tv> Hi, how should I partition a hard drive for duel boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a swap and 1 ext partition.
[02:54] <orudie> bazhang: are you there?
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> hash tables for wpa... so you hacking wifi?
[02:54] <sfears> well a scsi drive isn't an ide drive.. so that might be your problem
[02:54] <nickrud> lazerquestion: it's the only printer I've bought for years, they work hard at linux drivers
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> I would think 4tb of hash tables would be overkill for that
[02:55] <sfears> your grub is looking for an ide & not finding it because the scsi is plugged in?
[02:55] <orudie> which command do i use to edit .conf files?
[02:55] <Exodus> IceWewe, what does you menu.lst look like exactly? www.pastebin.com
[02:55] <usse1> lazerquestion: well brother has some linux support for some of their printers but you never hear about brother these days
[02:55] <jm_> Can't open /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[02:55] <soundray> lazerquestion: the fewer hassles are worth the extra pounds/euros/zlotys
[02:55] <ryanzec> i have downloaded a login screen from gnome-look but can't seem to install it.  I go to login from system->administration and when i click add it does not show up
[02:55] <sfears> orudie, gedit,kate,vi
[02:55] <jm_> Trying to install slmodemd firmware
[02:55] <jm_> Any clues about  /etc/init.d/functions
[02:56] <nickrud> ryanzec: try unpacking it into /usr/share/gdm/themes
[02:56] <sfears> no idea jm_
[02:56] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, well, not ONLY for hash tables, i have a shitload of reference material in pdfs and text, chm, etc etc. ranging from networking, os, construction guides, even automotive repair and transmission break downs, i do construction and have my own garage for money on the side.
[02:56] <jm_> sfears: Can't seem to find much googling either....?
[02:56] <orudie> can anyone recommend who i should register a domain name with ?
[02:56] <IceWewe> Exodus: http://pastebin.com/m5870cae2
[02:57] <sfears> godaddy.com orudie
[02:57] <jm_> sfears: Do you have /etc/init.d/functions ?
[02:57] <Bossmanbeta> ah... no doubt some .vobs and .mp4's and .mp3's on that same 4tb server <smirk>
[02:57] <sfears> no i don't jm_
[02:57] <jm_> orudie: What country are you in?
[02:57] <lazerquestion> hehe, a few here and there.
[02:57] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes, it's Debian, I'm asking in that channel too...
[02:57] <lazerquestion> alot of is is 720 and 1080, that stuff is quite large sometimes.
[02:58] <jm_> orudie: I use godady too, works for me, easy and affordable.
[02:58] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: unreleased blockbusters in full HD
[02:58] <lazerquestion> i got 8x500's stuff in it, but i'm gonna setup gmirror and have it backup.
[02:58] <soundray> there you go
[02:58] <Bossmanbeta> lol soundray
[02:58] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, that looks ok, and you sure you got the bios right?
[02:58] <ryanzec> nickrud, thanks
[02:58] <IceWewe> Exodus: positive, the SCSI hard drive is the first thing to boot and the SCSI card is setup for it
[02:59] <jm_> anyone know what to do about /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[02:59] <Bossmanbeta> unfortunately... 4TB would only hold about 600 dvd's
[02:59] <zdux00tv> Hi, how should I partition a hard drive for duel boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a 1 swap and 1 ext mounted at "/" .
[02:59] <Bossmanbeta> (standard...not blueray)
[02:59] <apt-nuke> "only"
[03:00] <jm_> What package do I install to get  /etc/init.d/functions ?
[03:00] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, yeah, i shoot for xvid/divx. it all looks good on a 52" from 15ft away. i'm not a pixel freak, most people put the face into the screen and say "oh! i see rough edges!!" but seriously, who sits that close and points that out?
[03:00] <jm_> !functions
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about functions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <jm_> !function
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about function - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <xp_prg> anyone know how to make a service startup on bootup in ubuntu when you start it like this :  /etc/init.d/ddclient start?
[03:00] <smacky> is it hard to transfer files from one hard drive to the other without the other having a os on it
[03:00] <sfears> what does that have to do with jm_
[03:01] <sfears> no smacky as long as it's formatted with the correct file system it should work
[03:01] <jm_> xp_prg: You can add to /etc/rc.local
[03:01] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, usually Star Wars nerds, and Star Trekkers... that ould compromise about 96.7% of all nerds in the industrialized world :-)
[03:01] <nickrud> jm_: according to apt-file , there is no /etc/init.d/funcitons , what do you expect from it?
[03:01] <zdux00tv> jm_: the only thing I could tell you about it is /etc/init.d is where the start up items are located, I've never heard of anything called "functions"
[03:01] <smacky> right on thanks
[03:01] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, hahaaha
[03:01] <nickrud> *functions that is
[03:01] <lazerquestion> is 600x600 decent? i mean, does it look crisp without attacking it with a magnifying glass?
[03:01] <soundray> lazerquestion: yes
[03:02] <xp_prg> jm_ but what exactly do I put in there?
[03:02] <Exodus> IceWewe, and that hard drive in linux is detected as sda ?
[03:02] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes
[03:02] <lazerquestion> soundray, yes it's decent, or yes it's rough?
[03:02] <apt-nuke> can x-chat use samba file shares as a target for file downloads?
[03:02] <orudie> how long will it take for them to get my domain set up for me once i pay them ?
[03:02] <zaid>  hello
[03:02] <zaid>  i need some help in a C++ project
[03:02] <sfears> i wouldn't see why not apt-nuke
[03:02] <jm_> I see /lib/lsb/init-functions
[03:02] <soundray> lazerquestion: I printed my thesis on a 600dpi laser, including line-art images of cannulas that were just beautiful.
[03:02] <Bossmanbeta> apt-nuke, should be able to... it's a mountable resource like any other
[03:02] <jm_> Wonder if that's it?
[03:02] <nickrud> zaid: probably ask on ##c++ or ##c
[03:02] <lazerquestion> hmm, not worth the extra $ to get 1200?
[03:03] <sfears> why would there be two ## in a channel name?
[03:03] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, unless yer printing out some pics of Jenna Jameson
[03:03] <zaid> nickrud: thanks
[03:03] <lazerquestion> hehe that 4tb isn't all reference and movies.
[03:03] <nickrud> jm_: that provides wrappers for use init.d scripts
[03:03] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, if you configuration files are ok, and your grub gets loaded to the master boot record of your hard drive without any problems, then the problem resides in your scsi controller configuration and your BIOS.
[03:04] <IceWewe> Exodus: ok, well the HDD is set to boot in BIOS and the only other thing I can think of is the SCSI controller setup, but I can't change the boot flag on the device...
[03:04] <orudie> how can search for some particular text once i'm in vi ?
[03:04] <jm_> nickrud: Well, I dono.  slmodemd sctip looks for /etc/init.d/functions and does not find it, is all I know.
[03:04] <tinman> orudie: i think it's /searchstring
[03:05] <soundray> jm_: how did you install slmodemd?
[03:05] <nickrud> jm_: hm. I think I should try to get my modem working ;)
[03:05] <orudie> how can i quit from vi ?
[03:05] <icesword> nickrud, hello
[03:05] <zdux00tv> how should I partition a hard drive for dual boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a 1 swap and 1 ext mounted at "/" . Where should I set the second mount at, do I need to create this directory first?
[03:05] <vignesh> orudie, exit
[03:05] <Bossmanbeta> orudie, type   :q
[03:05] <jm_> nickrud: Wonder if I could just ln -s /lib/lsb/init-functions /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[03:05] <leo_rockw> orudie: or :q!
[03:06] <soundray> jm_: how did you install slmodemd?
[03:06] <vignesh> orudie, to save and quit :x! , to discard and quit  :q!
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> or to save and quit, you can type :wq!
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> lol
[03:06] <zdux00tv> orudie: you might try nano, some features are that the arrow keys work, and the buttons type letters, control things (saving, opening) are all Ctrl+ button
[03:06] <bruenig> zdux00tv: swap, 2 root partitions
[03:06] <nickrud> jm_: better to answer soundray's train of thought first
[03:06] <leo_rockw> orudie: nano is simpler, vim is better (imo)
[03:06] <bruenig> arrow keys work in vim
[03:06] <jm_> soundray: nickrud So far, I've just downloaded and unpacked SLMODEMD.gcc4.1.tar.gz
[03:06] <ArrPirate> can someone help me please? I want my ntfs partition to automount upon login. I've been told to alter fstab and I tried to the best of my abilities but I can't get it to work. What should I add to fstab? The disk is at /dev/sda3 and normally mounts to /media/disk
[03:06] <Exfil> i need help porting Photoshop cs2 to gusty, i have the adobe folder in the program files directory under wine but i cant seem to get the right registry key imported, when cs2 loads up it says it is unactivated, but it is activated on the xp machine
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> then there's gvim if you want vim in GUI form
[03:06] <soundray> jm_: there's your problem.
[03:06] <bruenig> I don't think ubuntu puts a lot of work into making vim usable though
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: so both mounted to "/" ?
[03:07] <bruenig> every other distro I have used it on, the arrow keys are success
[03:07] <bruenig> zdux00tv: yes
[03:07] <jm_> soundray: ?
[03:07] <Exodus> IceWewe, well you have to make sure that your scsi controller can boot from that hard drive
[03:07] <soundray> jm_: you should install software the ubuntu way. Watch out for private messages from ubotu
[03:07] <soundray> !software > jm_
[03:07] <leo_rockw> bruenig: arrow keys work on my vim
[03:07] <soundray> !modem > jm_
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I didn't know that was possible
[03:07] <soundray> !repos > jm_
[03:07] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what have you done in fstab so far?
[03:07] <vignesh> i am using ubuntu 7.04... the update manager shows that an higher version of ubuntu is available.. if i upgrade to 7.10 through the upgrade manager, will all the applications i have installed be retained?? and how big will be the download size for 7.10??
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I was just making a joke. After I found nano, I forgot about vi, it was too complicated for me
[03:08] <bruenig> zdux00tv: / is an imaginary thing
[03:08] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, yep it will upgrade seamlessly
[03:08] <sfears> ArrPirate, your ntfs drive proally does automount.. do you mean you want it to show on your desktop?
[03:08] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, seamlessly in the sense??
[03:08] <t0dk0n> hello, I have a problem with my xorg.conf... when GDM starts,  it starts in some awkward 1024x1140 or something resolution,  but I have xfce-mcs-manager restoring it to 1280x1024 when  Openbox starts
[03:08] <bruenig> zdux00tv: partitions are real, / is created essentially at boot
[03:08] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I thought I would need something like /boot ?
[03:08] <lazerquestion> soundray, a thesis?
[03:08] <nickrud> hm. can't find slmodem in gutsy
[03:08] <soundray> jm_: slmodem is easiest to install through System-Administration-Restricted Drivers
[03:08] <deadlyallance613> what should my mount point be ?
[03:08] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, ...in the sense that there will be no seams... no problems........ no issues........ no problems... A OK, great.
[03:08] <zdux00tv> brunig: do I need to do something with grub ?
[03:08] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, ty ..
[03:09] <soundray> lazerquestion: yes, on ultrasound-guided chest biopsies
[03:09] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, and how big will the download be?
[03:09] <mariamystar> crimsun: you helped me with a soundcard problem a while back
[03:09] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what have you done in fstab so far?
[03:09] <mariamystar> crimsun: i was hopinfg you could help me again, i re-iinstalled with ubuntu studio
[03:09] <lazerquestion> woah, went over my head quicker then a f16.
[03:09] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, because i have a limited download broadband connection..
[03:09] <tokyoahead> guys whats the best bittorent client for linux? one that can read RSS feeds?
[03:09] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, US guided?? Fluroscopy scares you? Little photons? ...interventional med student?
[03:09] <ArrPirate> I added "/dev/sda3        /media/disk ntfs auto defaults 0 0", saved, and rebooted... I did that because I saw something very similar in a forum post
[03:09] <deadlyallance613> should /boot be my mount point ?
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, the DL is a few hundred megabytes... I'd guess around 450megs or so
[03:10] <ryanzec> anyone recommend a good FTP with a descent GUI for 7.10?
[03:10] <ArrPirate> but it didn't work
[03:10] <sfears> ArrPirate, "ls /media/disk"
[03:10] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, okie.. ty..
[03:10] <nickrud> ArrPirate: as in didn't work, what does that entail
[03:10] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: US is more flexible and accurate for pleura. This was 12 years ago anyway
[03:10] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what exactly is your problen?
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> ryanakca, try FileZilla
[03:11] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, wat about beryl?? will that also be retained??
[03:11] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, interesting... I hear about MR internventional.... the whole room in a magnet
[03:11] <NW2190> Hey, I'm installing Ubuntu Studio as a second distro on my computer, how do I go about partitioning without losing any of my existing data?
[03:11] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, you should have no issues.... but feel free to ask the others.
[03:11] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, ya ok ..
[03:11] <xp_prg> jm_ you herje?
[03:12] <jm_> xp_prg: Yes
[03:12] <xp_prg> what exactly do I put in the rc.local?
[03:12] <bluewraith> anyone know how to get to the physics settings for kiba-dock? I dont see them under the rest of the settings
[03:12] <jm_> soundray: Installing  sl-modem-daemon  :(
[03:12] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: better to leave your steel scalpel behind
[03:12] <soundray> jm_: frown?
[03:12] <ArrPirate> ls: /media/disk: No such file or directory
[03:12] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, lol ... plenty of metals that are not magnetic :-)
[03:12] <sfears> NW2190, there is always a chance you will lose data when playing with partition tables.. if you already have ubuntu installed you don't need to install to a different partition.. just create a new user & download the appropriate packages
[03:12] <deuryte> I lost the ability to change desk tops, what can i do to fix this.
[03:13] <nickrud> ArrPirate: ok, first you want to   sudo mkdir /media/disk  (so there's somewhere to mount)  and then the line you have will mount your ntfs partition read only
[03:13] <ArrPirate> My problem is that I want my ntfs storage partition to mount upon logging into my system. Right now I have to open up Places/Computer and double click on the icon for the partition and enter my password for it to mount.
[03:13] <soundray> deuryte: reinstall the Workspace Switcher panel applet
[03:13] <sfears> deuryte, alt+f2 kcontrol & change the settings under desktop/multiple desktops
[03:13] <NW2190> sfears: well the main problem is that I can't get the JACK audio server to work.
[03:13] <deuryte> ok tx ill try
[03:14] <sfears> i have problems with jack myself
[03:14] <ExxonValdeez> what are the default groups a user is put into on ubuntu?
[03:14] <ArrPirate> why would I want to mount it read only?
[03:14] <Exfil> can anyone help with a port to wine?
[03:14] <ExxonValdeez> can anyone run and 'id' and tell me?
[03:14] <dabbill> is there any way to get the default load screen back, not sure what i have done to mess it up, all i get is a black screen on startup now
[03:14] <LimCore> Exfil: what port to wine?
[03:14] <sfears> there's a lot of configs to do to get jack working properly.. the only thing studio will do to help is install the low-latency or real time kernel
[03:14] <NW2190> sfears: ya and since I can't start Jack I can't use Ubuntu to record which stinks
[03:14] <nickrud> ArrPirate: then your fstab line should have   ntfs-3g    defaults,umask=007,gid=46   instead of  ntfs defaults if you want to write
[03:14] <Exfil> limcore: photoshop cs2
[03:14] <sfears> are you getting underrun errors?
[03:14] <LimCore> Exfil: best as #wine-hq
[03:15] <LimCore> ask
[03:15] <Exfil> thx m8
[03:15] <ArrPirate> nickrud: Ok, so now a reboot should fix the problem?
[03:15] <LimCore> Exfil: best ask #winehq
[03:15] <Exfil> limcore: thanks
[03:15] <nickrud> ArrPirate: after those changes, you can test  with   sudo mount /media/disk
[03:15] <NW2190> sfears: I think that was one of my problems a while ago but the main one is that "hw:0 is already in use"
[03:15] <dcsquare> I'm using edubuntu 7.10, and i hanged while doing updates. I reset the system and now, after successfully logging in, the desktop/icons etc do not load. The mouse is functional, but the rest of the system is iddle
[03:15] <mariamysta1> i am have a soundcard issue. i need to run my SB! Live sound card and ubuntu isn'
[03:15] <LimCore> Exfil: best ask #winehq :)  not wine-hq I mistaken
[03:15] <mariamysta1> tdoing it by default
[03:16] <nickrud> ArrPirate: if you get the right behavior with that, then every time you boot you'll have the same behavior
[03:16] <NW2190> I don't really understand how sound works in Ubuntu so I haven't had any luck fixing the problem
[03:16] <ArrPirate> ok
[03:16] <ArrPirate> didn't work
[03:16] <LimCore> mariamysta1: linxu sounds support sucks
[03:16] <Exfil> limcore:gotya
[03:16] <Exfil> limcore: thanks
[03:16] <mariamysta1> LimCore: i had someone in here fix it before
[03:16] <ArrPirate> but Places/Computer isn't registering the partition at all, so I'll try a reboot. BRB
[03:16] <sfears> did you get into the jack ctrl & change the interface?
[03:16] <nickrud> ArrPirate:    ls  /media  put that on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and /etc/fstab also
[03:16] <mariamysta1> limcore: they had me run a script and then gave me terminal code that set my soundbblaster as default
[03:16] <snypzz> really nice channel
[03:16] <LimCore> mariamysta1: you may ask #alsa . Ther are some read-the-man-page geeks.  but they will help with time ;)
[03:16] <NW2190> ya I tried almost everything with qjackctl
[03:17] <dcsquare> where can I check where the system hangs so I get an idea of what is broken?
[03:17] <LimCore> dcsquare: what are you doing more or less when it hangs?
[03:17] <sfears> dcsquare, when it starts to boot press ctrl+alt+f1
[03:17] <serdar> hi guys
[03:17] <sfears> that will show you boot in the terminal screen instead of the gui splash
[03:17] <dcsquare> I had the update manager running (I installed a fresh edubuntu 5 hours ago)
[03:18] <dcsquare> and firefox
[03:18] <sfears> hello serdar
[03:18] <serdar> I have a strange problem with groups, a change dous not effect
[03:18] <jm_> soundray: :-)  not :(    typo  ...
[03:18] <sfears> serdar??
[03:18] <soundray> !yay | jm_
[03:18] <ubotu> jm_: Glad you made it! :-)
[03:18] <nickrud> serdar: you have to log out completely and back in for group changes to register
[03:19] <Dangermike>  firefox
[03:19] <Dangermike> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:19] <serdar> I tried it with this users and groups stuff in the panel
[03:19] <dcsquare> serdar: I can kill X, no problem. Now the system is not frozen, it's just that X does not finish loading
[03:19] <serdar> dcsquare: that's not for me?
[03:20] <dcsquare> serdar: yep, sorry :) It was meant for sfears
[03:20] <ArrPirate_> Thanks everyone who helped me. My ntfs partition automounted with read/write upon the reboot. Thanks!
[03:20] <sfears> my default with any kind of display issues is "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" & set to vesa drivers @800x600.. that has always gotten me back into x to make changes from there
[03:20] <dcsquare> sfears: I can kill X, no problem. Now the system is not frozen, it's just that X does not finish loading
[03:20] <ArrPirate_> This has been irritating me for weeks!
[03:20] <sfears> my default with any kind of display issues is "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" & set to vesa drivers @800x600.. that has always gotten me back into x to make changes from there
[03:21] <lazerquestion> !!! HP's printer site is overwhelming! what should i choose!
[03:21] <jm_> xp_prg: what were you trying to do?
[03:21] <sfears> boobs lazerquestion always go with the boobs
[03:21] <orudie> how would i restart apache ?
[03:21] <ryanzec> i installed filezilla but i can connect to the server but it will not let me go to the root directory of the server and i should be able to because i can form winscp
[03:21] <nickrud> orudie: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:21] <serdar> nickrud: what do you mean by that? I opened this preferences of users and clicked there at managed groups to change settings of vboxusers
[03:21] <xp_prg> jm_ I think it is ok, I see a S20ddclient in my /etc/rc3.d
[03:21] <jm_> thx alot soundray
[03:21] <dabbill> any one got a link for customizing the splash screen right after grub
[03:22] <serdar> but the changes don't apply
[03:22] <soundray> sfears: good hint -- I'm off :)
[03:22] <nickrud> serdar: it's a limitation of linux. When you add a user to a group, that user has to log out completely and then back in to have it register
[03:22] <lazerquestion> LjL, why did you send the ubotu to msg me?
[03:22] <serdar> and I have there now over 10 root
[03:22] <jm_> xp_prg: Good
[03:22] <prince_jammys> !usplash | dabbill
[03:22] <ubotu> dabbill: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:22] <sfears> good luck
[03:22] <mutable> hi guys, i need to create test enviroment for my application, i need some very simple smtp server which will just listen on port 25 and store it to local mailbox or relay it to procmail. does anybody know some?
[03:22] <Kira> would it be wise or not to make apache2 controlled by xinetd?
[03:22] <Dangermike> no flash or swf of anything installed i also removed the swf file handling for firefox and it still seg faults
[03:22] <Dangermike> trying to load speedtest.net
[03:22] <lazerquestion> sfears, boobs?
[03:23] <sfears> hell yeah.. they never fail
[03:23] <drakode> hello
[03:23] <ArrPirate> Also, I'm happy with Ubuntu! I just built my new computer, a gaming rig, and everything is great! I had no driver issues, Ubuntu discovered everything properly and everything just works, even my psp and ipod works. The only reason I used Windows now is for gaming.
[03:23] <livefoniks> Boobs are what run HP's website.
[03:23] <Dangermike> firefox
[03:23] <sfears> ohhh.. well that's what you think
[03:23] <serdar> nickrud: I don't understand, you mean register logging at syslog or something?
[03:24] <leo_rockw> ArrPirate: what my friends like to call "Wintendo" lol
[03:24] <nickrud> serdar: by register I mean be able to have the permissions being in that group gives
[03:24] <ArrPirate> anyone know of a good game for linux to stress my hardware? I want to see how my hardware holds up in linux (it plays Crysis with maximum settings with no glitches aside from when there's frozen zones with lots of fog)
[03:24] <sfears> ArrPirate, frets on fire
[03:24] <sfears> i bet it will be lagged
[03:25] <leo_rockw> ArrPirate: tremulous, world of padman
[03:25] <NW2190> sfears: is there an alternative to Jack?
[03:25] <Krumar> ArrPirate, i second Tremulous, lots of fun
[03:25] <solid_liq> anyone know what program draws the background for the gnome desktop?
[03:25] <ArrPirate> if anyone wants to see my hardware list: heatherhacks.tiddlyspot.com
[03:25] <serdar> nickrud: hmm, I want to try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593512
[03:25] <sfears> maybe.. but most of the good recording software needs jack
[03:25] <usse1> ArrPirate: get quake wars linux demo
[03:26] <leo_rockw> ArrPirate: there's unreal tournament for linux...
[03:26] <usse1> ArrPirate: that'll push your hardware to the max
[03:26] <NW2190> ya
[03:26] <sfears> what jack error are you gettings NW2190 ?
[03:26] <xp_prg> I can't seem to find the stupid command to run ddclient manually to test that it is working :(
[03:26] <xp_prg> I had it then lost it
[03:26] <nickrud> serdar: like it says, log out and back in
[03:26]  * Kira badly wants a new machine with C2Q, Radeon 3870 Dual, and 4 GB ram for gaming.
[03:26] <NW2190> "the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again"
[03:26] <sfears> Kira.. i've heard there's big profits in drug dealing
[03:27] <sfears> NW2190, do you have jack control?
[03:27] <sfears> the application jack control?
[03:27] <ArrPirate> my computer has dual core intel 1.8ghz cpu, 8800gts 320mb 320bit nvidia graphics card, 4gb ram, 7200rpm 300gb hard drive
[03:28] <NW2190> sfears: what do you mean?  I usually use the qjackctl command to work with it.
[03:28] <Kira> sfears: sigh, I don't have spare resources. all my money is in my child labour and prostitution business right now.
[03:28] <Kira> :P
[03:28] <usse1> haha
[03:28] <serdar> ah, okay
[03:28] <ArrPirate> it plays all the games I've thrown at it with almost no lag except for Crysis with lots of fog in an area or Supreme Commander when I was stupid enough to build 50+ force fields on a tiny island
[03:28] <Krumar> ArrPirate, you should try #ubuntu-offtopic for general conversations
[03:28] <sfears> ahhh.. see Kira, you need to broaden your portfolio, you don't have you assets spread enough
[03:28] <mariamysta1> okay so #alsa hasn't responded to my queries. i need a way to set my sb! live as my default soundcard
[03:28] <Kira> sfears: true
[03:29] <li-plus> where can i find xwinwrap for amd64 architecture
[03:29] <sfears> yeah NW2190 open that.. go to settings & change the interface
[03:29]  * Kira contacts his stocks agent for more inside trading.
[03:29] <sfears> that's the ticket Kira!
[03:29]  * nickrud considers kicking Kira for setting a good example
[03:29] <sfears> ha
[03:30] <NW2190> sfears: there are four choices: hw:0  hw:0,0  hw:0,1 and /dev/dsp
[03:30] <sfears> yeah.. try one of the other ones.. restart jack & see what happens
[03:30] <Kira> Is anybody have issues accessing google lately?
[03:31] <Kira> *having
[03:31] <Dangermike> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:31] <Dangermike> no flash or swf of anything installed i also removed the swf file handling for firefox and it still seg faults trying to load speedtest.net
[03:31] <Dangermike> or any other flash site
[03:31] <sfears> not I Kira
[03:31] <Kira> probably something is messed up with the HK gateway.
[03:31] <Kira> google doesn't always respond (from home and office)
[03:31] <sfears> have you tried using something other than firefox Dangermike mabey it's a flash issue?
[03:32] <fernando> What should I make to get ALSA updated?
[03:33] <Stwange> fernando, what's it doing/not doing?
[03:33] <drakode> as convert a deb for amd64 for a machine i386?
[03:33] <NW2190> sfears: all the same message... is there any where you know of where I could just learn what hw:0, hw:0,1, etc are?
[03:33] <fernando> my system is ubuntu 7.10
[03:33] <sfears> ummm.. let me try and find a better chat room for you... brb
[03:33] <drakode> hi, who whant helpme?? as convert a deb for amd64 for a machine i386?
[03:33] <NW2190> sfears: ok
[03:33] <fernando> it is conflicting with  NetBridgeVu.exe, under wine
[03:34] <sfears> try #ardour.. you'll be able to find some better help in there
[03:34] <NW2190> ok thanks
[03:34] <icesword> drakode, what is it
[03:34] <li-plus> where can i get xwinwrap from for amd architecture
[03:34] <li-plus> 64 bit i mean
[03:35] <serdar> yes I did it well, users-admin does not start anymore :)
[03:35] <drakode> icesword: Convert as a file. Deb for AMD64 one machine to machine i386 can install? This is the file http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ubuntu+AMD64+debs+for+Nimbus+themes?content=75816
[03:35] <fernando> Stwange,  it is conflicting with  NetBridgeVu.exe, under wine
[03:36] <Kira> anyway
[03:36] <Kira> back to what I wanted to ask
[03:36] <serdar> any ideas :)
[03:36] <icesword> drakode, you checked the README
[03:36] <Kira> Why is apache2 running as www-data? When was this www-data user created anyway?
[03:37] <drakode> icesword: what readme?
[03:37] <nickrud> Kira: it was designed to allow apache2 to write to /var/www without running as root
[03:37] <fernando> what shall I do to update ALSA?
[03:37] <icesword> drakode, i think it must some directions like readme or note or something in that package or on that website page
[03:38] <Kira> nickrud: I see. In which file is the running user of apache2 decided?
[03:39] <icesword> ! info lsof
[03:39] <fernando> Is there other MS windows emulater other than wine?
[03:39] <ubotu> lsof (source: lsof): List open files. In component main, is important. Version 4.78.dfsg.1-2 (gutsy), package size 202 kB, installed size 360 kB
[03:39] <Bradley> hey Linux cannot see the windows partition... why is this?
[03:39] <nickrud> Kira: /etc/apach2/apache2.conf
[03:39] <serdar> can I force, that I get reinstalled all installed packets at one?
[03:39] <biabia__> is anyone aware of a text filter for xchat
[03:39] <icesword> Bradley, is it ntfs?
[03:39] <nickrud> erm, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf kira I mean
[03:39] <biabia__> like an add on script
[03:40] <serdar> something like emerge -eD world
[03:40] <Bradley> icesword: yep
[03:40] <drakode> in that website page something a readme
[03:40] <icesword> Bradley, coz ntfs is a complex struture,you know
[03:40] <icesword> !ntfs-3g > Bradley
[03:41] <fernando> any emulator of windows other than wine?
[03:41] <Bradley> icesword: so what do i do
[03:41] <icesword> !ntfs-3g | Bradley
[03:41] <ubotu> Bradley: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:41] <serdar> any ideas?
[03:41] <Kira> nickrud: I'm sharing a Gutsy box with a bunch of friends and I'm the admin (I'm no linux or ubuntu guru, but I'm the one with the most unix and general computer admin knowledge already). I'm thinking of isolating each human user's websites by only allowing them to put their website scripts and files in their ~/Websites folders
[03:42] <icesword> fernando, what do you want ?play games?
[03:42] <fernando> it is a specifig game available on Bridge Base Online
[03:42] <fernando> and i get booted because of a conflict of sound
[03:43] <Bradley> ubotu: okay, but my linux has very littile space and wont install drivers
[03:43] <Bradley> i dont think
[03:43] <Bradley> i say something abou t them
[03:43] <Kira> If I chgrp all the ~/Websites to www-data, and chmod them to 770, the websites are guaranteed to work as long as I leave apache2 to run as www-data, right?
[03:43] <drakode> icesword: In this web site something exists of readme :D mm i am spain speak =(
[03:43] <fernando> icesword , got it?
[03:43] <lazerquestion> for my laser printer question, will someoen check out http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName=storefronts&landing=printer&category=LaserJet&orderflow=1&a1=Networking&v1=Wired&product_code=Q6455A%23ABA&catLevel=2 and let me know what yo uthink
[03:43] <icesword> fernando, if wine doesn't work,what about virtual machine,like virtualbox or vmware
[03:44] <serdar> that must be possible , or not?
[03:44] <nickrud> Kira: you can do that with   sudo a2enmod userdir , then they can put their stuff in ~/public_html
[03:44] <fernando> ok ....what shd be better?
[03:44] <dcsquare> OK, reconfiguring the xserver did not solve anything (x loads just fine and I can login), but after that it does not load the desktop image/icons etc. Where can I find the logs for x?
[03:44] <fernando> vmware or virtualbox?
[03:44] <Kira> nickrud: heh, I was wondering where the public_html convention came from.
[03:44] <fernando> under 7.10
[03:44] <nickrud> serdar: sudo aptitude , highlight the  installed packages, press shift-L , and then gg
[03:45] <icesword> fernando, this is it,vmware is powerful,but vmware workstation is payware,virtualbox is free
[03:45] <fernando> nice
[03:45] <fernando> thx
[03:45] <nickrud> serdar: that won't replace the config files in /etc/ if they are modified , that's a feature
[03:46] <fernando> thx icesword
[03:46] <icesword> nope
[03:46] <Kira> nickrud: I see a similar public_ftp directory on the shared hosting that I used to use. Where does that one come from? not the apache2 mod_userdir, right?
[03:46] <serdar> nickrud: ah nice, thanks
[03:47] <nickrud> Kira: I don't think so. Not familiar with that dir
[03:47] <Bradley> !ntfs-2
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <snapemiken> can anybody help me pls? newbie
[03:48] <Bradley> snapemiken: with what?
[03:48] <li-plus> !xwinwrap
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <nickrud> snapemiken: ask away, if someone knows they'll speak up
[03:48] <snapemiken> I try to install realplayer on Ubuntu but it didn't work
[03:48] <icesword> ! ask | snapemiken
[03:48] <Bradley> !mom
[03:48] <ubotu> snapemiken: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <nickrud> snapemiken: what was the problem?
[03:49] <Taso> hey guys, I have two serious issues
[03:49] <Taso> in windows, you press "Alt" and you can move around the menu options, how do you do this in Ubuntu w/ Gnome ?
[03:50] <snapemiken> i used alien to convert (?), then install the DEB package
[03:50] <nickrud> Taso: right click the menu button, select edit.
[03:50] <IceWewe> Taso: have you tried using alt?
[03:50] <Taso> I don't want to use my mouse
[03:50] <IceWewe> Taso: nvm, disregard that...
[03:50] <Kira> nickrud: I think Taso means navigating the menus using only the keyboard.
[03:51] <Kira> Taso: if I recall correctly, Ubuntu menus have underlined letters
[03:51] <nickrud> snapemiken: ah, not the right way.  download the file ending  in  .bin to your Desktop, then run   sudo sh ~/Desktop/<downloaded-file> . Tell it to install in /usr/local/RealPlayer
[03:51] <Kira> say the File menu has an underlined 'F'
[03:51] <Taso> Kir: yea, you're correct
[03:51] <Kira> pressing alt+f would activate that menu and then you can navigate the menus
[03:51] <Taso> there's no way to edit that though? so I can nav around?
[03:52] <snapemiken> nickrud, thanks, ill try it now
[03:53] <icesword> ...
[03:53] <IceWewe> Taso: how can you not navigate now? It's the same as in Windows...
[03:54] <Taso> nope
[03:54] <Taso> Alt+F1
[03:54] <Taso> I chagned it to the windows key
[03:55] <dea_lova> hii
[03:55] <mandrig> Is anyone familiar with Avant Window Manager?
[03:55] <wam_> hey everyone... I'm having difficulty reaching ubuntu repositories (e.g. security.ubuntu.org) from my home network (RoadRunner). I can (ICMP) traceroute to the destination just fine, but attempts to tcptraceroute (port 80) result in packet droppage. I've dropped in output of the two traceroutes at http://pastebin.org/22825  Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:56] <snapemiken> nickrud, I receive this    /home/snapemiken/Desktop/realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[03:56] <IceWewe> mandrig: nope, sorry. I just use E17 or fluxbox...
[03:57] <nickrud> snapemiken: a sec, let me check that file
[03:57] <Taso> so how do you move something from one workspace to the next w/ Keyboard only?
[03:57] <IceWewe> Taso: Ctrl + Alt + -> or <-
[03:57] <pingu> does anyone know how to change the size of your max image size for gimp
[03:58] <Taso> well
[03:58] <Taso> I mean
[03:58] <Taso> move an application
[03:58] <Taso> not me
[03:58] <IceWewe> Taso: not off the top of my head, sorry...
[03:58] <Taso> no worries.
[03:58] <nickrud> snapemiken: you should be getting a file RealPlayer10Gold.bin , if you go to real.com and press the yellow buttons (assuming you're running ubuntu right now)
[03:58] <IceWewe> I'm gonna go... laters
[03:59] <wam_> Taso: I set a keybinding... so that ctrl-alt-arrow-key takes my current window to the direction of the arrow button I hit. Is that what you're looking for?
[03:59] <snapemiken> nickrud, let try it
[03:59] <nittanylion> (it was shift + Ctrl + -> or <-)
[03:59] <lazerquestion> where are printer drivers located at?
[03:59] <Taso> hrm
[03:59] <Adylass> Hello, I need to denied a driver to load, its in my initrd, Can I do this with the kernel command line ?
[03:59] <Sandra24> Is it possible to send stdout to a file with > some_file.txt and see it in the console?
[03:59] <lazerquestion> or ,how would i check to see what printer drivers i have installed?
[03:59] <nittanylion> (whoops: ctrl + alt + shift + --> / <--)
[03:59] <Taso> no no no no n
[03:59] <Taso> oh shit
[03:59] <Taso> that that works!
[03:59] <Taso> nice!
[03:59] <isaacj87> is there any way to get the Amazon MP3 Downloader working on Feisty?
[03:59] <Taso> go nittanylion!
[03:59] <Taso> :)
[03:59] <FloodBot2> Taso: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <mandrig> Umm... My desktop isn't working
[04:00] <wam_> whats' the problem mandrig?
[04:00] <wam_> and which desktop are you using?
[04:01] <mandrig> wam, nothing is showing, gnome
[04:01] <mandrig> the file browser works
[04:01] <pingu> does anyone know how to change the size of your max image size for gimp
[04:01] <wam_> mandrig: how can file browser work if nothing is showing? Could you elaborate on exactly what you mean by 'nothing'?
[04:02] <mandrig> black background with no icons
[04:02] <snapemiken> nickrud, same message   /home/snapemiken/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:02] <mandrig> brb, going to restart X
[04:02] <wam_> mandrig: panels?
[04:02] <demonspork> how do I enable the extra buttons on my mouse? I have the normal 3 buttons (middle is a scroll wheel) but then I have 2 buttons on either side of the mouse that just duplicate the functions of the other buttons.
[04:02] <nickrud> snapemiken: exactly what command are you running?
[04:02] <snapemiken> nickrud,  sudo sh ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:03] <wam_> mandrig: did that help?
[04:03] <mandrig> wam, It was an applet error with Avant Window Manager
[04:03] <mandrig> All better now.
[04:03] <nittanylion> demonspork: used btnx to do mine -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455656
[04:03] <mage__> is there an easy way to ignore depends for something? I'm having trouble with apt-get after forcing a deb thats just a few python scripts
[04:03] <nickrud> snapemiken: ok, maybe realplayer doesn't like that version. Try running   chmod +x ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin && ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin
[04:04] <mandrig> thanks for the help though wam :)
[04:04] <wam_> /mesg mandrig, Hey, I notice you're on from cinci.rr.com as well... mind if you help me debug something here?
[04:04] <nickrud> lol
[04:04] <wam_> err.. damn, sorry meant that to be a private (obviously)
[04:05] <isaacj87> wam_, lol
[04:05] <Bradley> do any of u use compiz fusion
[04:05] <mandrig> wam, sure
[04:05] <lazerquestion> where do i check to see what printer drivers i have installed?
[04:05] <isaacj87> Bradley, yes, I do
[04:05] <nickrud> snapemiken: looking at those commands, I forgot something:   chmod +x ~/Desktop/RealPlayerGOLD.bin && ~/Desktop/RealPlayerGOLD.bin  , screwed up the paths
[04:05] <Bradley> isaacj87: how does it install
[04:06] <ryanzec> I have connected to a server with ssh through command line, how do i transfer a file form the server to my computer?
[04:06] <snapemiken> nickrud: I tried   chmod +x ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin && ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin   then receive    chmod +x ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin && ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin   then i tried   chmod +x ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin && ~/RealPlayerGOLD.bin  and receive   chmod: cannot access `~Desktop/RealPlayerGOLD.bin': No such file or directory
[04:06] <isaacj87> Bradley, are you on Gutsy?
[04:06] <nickrud> lazerquestion: /usr/share/ppd will give you a pretty good idea
[04:06] <Alle1> hi
[04:06] <nickrud> snapemiken: yeah, I saw that. Look up, I fixed the paths
[04:06] <Starnestommy> ryanzec: scp user@server:/path/to/file target
[04:06] <wam_> ryanzec:  rsync server:/path/to/filename .
[04:06] <Bradley> isaacj87: i dont know what that is
[04:07] <jan-erik> Hey guys, I've been trying to get xserver xgl up and running, and I've done so aswell, but my problem is that xserver-xgl doesnt read my xorg :S it even uses another  charset than stated in Xorg, tried to google it with no luck, anyone who knows what it might be :)?
[04:07] <leo_rockw> Bradley: ubuntu 7.10
[04:07] <lazerquestion> nickrud, thx
[04:07] <isaacj87> Bradley, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:07] <Bradley> isaacj87: the newest version
[04:09] <isaacj87> Bradley, Compiz Fusion is installed by default. Look in "System" and then "Preferences" and lastly "Desktop Effects" of the menu
[04:09] <isaacj87> Bradley, and turn on Compiz Fusion
[04:09] <Bradley> isaacj87: ok, and what about the kiba dock thing
[04:09] <snapemiken> nickrud, tried   chmod +x ~Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin && ~Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin   and receive     chmod: cannot access `~Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin': No such file or directory
[04:10] <nickrud> snapemiken: you made a typo , chmod +x ~/Desktop  not chmod +x ~Desktop
[04:10] <snapemiken> nickrud, sry I am totally new to linux
[04:11] <isaacj87> Bradley, not sure of any repos that have Kiba. You're probably gonna have to compile it. Visit here: http://www.kiba-dock.org/
[04:11] <isaacj87> Bradley, on the left side, click "Wiki"
[04:11] <nickrud> snapemiken: no problem, ask any question you need. We all started knowing nothing, some people forget it though ;)
[04:11] <Bradley> isaacj87: compile???, is that what happens insead of installing?
[04:11] <isaacj87> Bradley, and find the instructions on how to install kiba.
[04:11] <ImS> maybe snapemiken should sit on the sidelines
[04:11] <ImS> hehhe
[04:11] <le_renouveau> Hi, can anyone help me with a problem reading video files?
[04:12] <Cpudan80> le_renouveau: What kind of problem?
[04:12] <Cpudan80> And what kind of file
[04:12] <le_renouveau> Screen flickers to white many times per second
[04:12] <jan-erik> Anyone who can give me some pointers on how to configure xserver-xgl? it doesnt't read my xorg.conf :( (hence not loading my ati drivers which are binary)
[04:12] <le_renouveau> .avi, .wmv, etc
[04:12] <Cpudan80> le_renouveau: what video proggies have you tried?
[04:12] <snapemiken> nickrud, okay another error, tried     chmod +x ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin && ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin    receive      /home/snapemiken/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:12] <le_renouveau> I installed the restricted package
[04:12] <isaacj87> Bradley, here's a direct link to the Wiki: http://www.kiba-dock.org/components/com_mambowiki/index.php?title=Installing_Kiba-Dock
[04:13] <mlLK> does wine work w/ WoW
[04:13] <mlLK> ?
[04:13] <nickrud> snapemiken: ok, they still haven't built against new libraries (don't worry if that doen't compute, it will later ;)     sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 , then try again
[04:14] <isaacj87> mlLK, i think it does. check the appdb on the WINE website
[04:14] <ImS> I got a question, why doesn't ubuntu7.10 destop work with Java in the browsers firefaox
[04:14] <ImS> i get errors
[04:14] <Bradley> isaacj87: so you have to compile just as if you were making the program, linking everything and all?
[04:14] <nickrud> snapemiken: a useful trick is hitting the up arrow on the command line, it works through the commands you've already typed
[04:14] <mlLK> can i mount my windows Program Files directory thru ubuntu?
[04:14] <cdubya> I can't seem to get any sound input from the mic input on this laptop......I don't know how to tell in Audacity or anything else for that matter what, if any, settings need to be looked at to see if maybe the right system isn't being used, etc...or where to begin troubleshooting this. Is there any pretty good sound documentation that's not totally jargon that you know of?
[04:15] <nickrud> ImS:   sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin , it should work after that
[04:15] <ImS> nickrud, k
[04:15] <snapemiken> nickrud, thanks, it's installing the library
[04:17] <nickrud> cdubya: don't we wish
[04:17] <mlLK> doesn't anyone read any documentation?
[04:18] <cdubya> nickrud, so I'm basically going to wish I didn't have this issue.
[04:18] <demonspork> how do I enable the extra buttons on my mouse? I have the normal 3 buttons (middle is a scroll wheel) but then I have 2 buttons on either side of the mouse that just duplicate the functions of the other buttons.
[04:18] <cdubya> nice
[04:18] <mlLK> ubuntuguide.org for first installers
[04:18] <ImS> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:18] <ImS> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:18] <ImS> is only available from another source
[04:18] <ImS> E: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[04:18] <nickrud> cdubya: people that know sound come thru here regularly. don't know if ubuntu guide covers that
[04:18] <Draco> mlLK: It -may- be possible by symlinking things around, but it's unlikely
[04:18] <booster_614> hey guys im having problems with playing games. just about every game i try to play says my graphics card is to old or i dont have the correct drivers installed...any help with this would be great
[04:18] <nickrud> !gutsysources | ImS (you need multiverse in particular)
[04:18] <ubotu> ImS (you need multiverse in particular): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[04:18] <cdubya> nickrud, any idea who some of them are?
[04:19] <cdubya> I tried to test the sound capture, but in the preference test it fails.
[04:19] <cdubya> Playback works fine, it's the capture that doesn't
[04:19] <jan-erik> Anyone who can give me some pointers on how to configure xserver-xgl? it doesnt't read my xorg.conf :( (hence not loading my ati drivers which are binary)
[04:19] <nickrud> cdubya: courtesy says let people speak up for themselves
[04:20] <cdubya> nickrud, true.....kind of in a pinch for time, though, so my apologies for my lack of tact.
[04:20] <cdubya> :D
[04:20] <snypzz> anyone play guild wars out there with linux...?
[04:20] <nickrud> cdubya: don't sweat it
[04:20] <tehpunkprodigy> Does anyone know a way to go through about 100 folders all contained in 1 folder and copy out all files ending in a certain file extension
[04:20] <toastman> irc.efnet.org
[04:20] <snapemiken> nickrud, installation complete but how can i open the player?
[04:21] <_rock> where would i find ubuntu install instructions for a computer that has a nvidia 8800 gts?
[04:21] <nickrud> snapemiken: it should be in the menu now, not sure exactly where it shows up. If all else fails, try   alt-f2 realplayer
[04:21] <ryanzec> i have tried about 3 different ftp client and none of them are letting me go out of the users root directory and it has the access to do so(i do it all the time on windows in winscp) any know why this would happen?
[04:21] <mlLK> try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#NVidia_Driver
[04:21] <_rock> thanks
[04:22] <Draco> ryanzec: winscp is not ftp
[04:22] <snapemiken> nickrud: could not open location file:///realplayer
[04:22] <mlLK> man ubuntu's bittorrent makes so much more sense than windows
[04:23] <ryanzec> but is has a sftp portion to the program
[04:23] <Draco> ryanzec: err, scp is remote file copy which uses SSH for transfer
[04:23] <nickrud> tehpunkprodigy: find /path/to/source/folder -iname '*pdf*' -exec cp {} /path/to/dest/folder  \;
[04:23] <ryanzec> i want to figure out how to transfer a file from a server to my computer without have to setup a ssh server on my computer, i don't have to on windows
[04:24] <Draco> ryanzec: sftp also uses ssh as a transfer. you have an sftp client called sftp already installed
[04:24] <nickrud> tehpunkprodigy: for pdfs, for example
[04:24] <Draco> ryanzec: you install an SSH -client-, not a server.
[04:24] <_rock> mlLK, i meant for installing ubuntu itself
[04:24] <booster_614> can anyone in here help me with a graphics card issue ??
[04:24] <nickrud> snapemiken: try typing   realplayer in a terminal
[04:24] <tehpunkprodigy> much thanks nickrud
[04:24] <Draco> ryanzec: by the way, regular old ftp is a real big pain to install, messing with xinetd configurations, etc
[04:25] <_rock> I cant install it because the installer doesnt seem to recognize my videocard
[04:25] <snapemiken> nickrud: when it ask me to enter directory, i put   Directoty: [home/snapemiken/RealPlayer]: /usr/local/RealPlayer
[04:25] <Draco> ryanzec: does the server you are referring to have SSH server installed?
[04:25] <ryanzec> right i can can log inot the server by doing ssh username@server but then i was told i have to do scp on the server to transfer the file which basically requires me to setup a ssh server on my computer
[04:25] <nickrud> tehpunkprodigy: you want to leave off the second * in that '*pdf*' for endings, sorry
[04:26] <nickrud> snapemiken: when it asked if you wanted it to integrate into the system (or some words to that effect) what did you say?
[04:26] <cdubya> ryanzec, what are you trying to do?
[04:27] <ryanzec> I want to get a file on a server on to my computer
[04:27] <cdubya> ryanzec, what have you tried?
[04:27] <snypzz> trying to setup the cube insert 3 to 4 desktop screens
[04:27] <Bradley> i have ubuntu 7.10 and i cannot get the GNOME partition Editor installed
[04:27] <Bradley> form the add/remove application list
[04:28] <snypzz> can anyone tell me where to get the info or screencast to do it...
[04:28] <ryanzec> I have tried to do ftp but that does not work.  i was going to try to ssh into the server and then do scp but i don't want to have to setup a ssh server on my computer to download a file
[04:28] <frailmage> Hi, I am having a problem trying to install Ubuntu, I go through the wizard on my boot disk, but I keep getting the error that there is not root file system, so it will not let me create a new partition, how can I fix this?
[04:28] <cdubya> snypzz, right-click the panel, then add desktop switcher?
[04:29] <Draco> ryanzec: scp draco@localhost:there here
[04:29] <snapemiken> nickrud: chmod +x ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin && ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin   receive    Setup will help you get RealPlayer running on your computer.Press [Enter] to continue...       press enter then receive     Enter the complete path to the directory where you want
[04:29] <snapemiken> RealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full
[04:29] <snapemiken> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to the chosen directory.Directory:  [/home/snapemiken/RealPlayer]     what should I enter??
[04:29] <cdubya> ryanzec, why would you think you would have to do that?
[04:29] <cdubya> just curious
[04:29] <Draco> ryanzec: then again I have a ssh server, though it really should work without
[04:30] <cdubya> ryanzec, you shouldn't have to setup an ssh server
[04:30] <nickrud> ryanzec: I don't have an ssh server on my machine, but scp stuff to/from servers all the time
[04:30] <snypzz> ok
[04:30] <cdubya> ryanzec, what nickrud said
[04:30] <cdubya> :D
[04:30] <frailmage> Hi, I am having a problem trying to install Ubuntu, I go through the wizard on my boot disk, but I keep getting the error that there is not root file system, so it will not let me create a new partition, how can I fix this?
[04:30] <Bradley> i have ubuntu 7.10 and i need help installing drivers, and software
[04:30] <cdubya> snypzz, that what you were talking about?
[04:31] <Draco> ryanzec: alternatively Konqueror has really nice things like fish protocol built in. It require a Bourne shell on the server
[04:31] <Draco> ryanzec: and Midnight Commander
[04:31] <cdubya> ryanzec, have you tried using the Connect to server under places?
[04:31] <snapemiken> frailmage: click on the roaster of the partition then type     /
[04:31] <snapemiken> frailmage: i think that will work
[04:31] <snypzz> I am trying to see the Cube on one screen with several other screens or desktops inside it
[04:32] <livefoniks> Bradley:  What do you need?
[04:32] <frailmage> snapemiken: Roaster? that is the name of the partition right? (sorry if it is an idiot question I am brand new at this)
[04:32] <|seb|> does aptitude remove do purging too? ...as in apt-get --purge remove ?
[04:32] <Thirsteh> frailmage, "mount location" or "mount position" or similar, yes
[04:32] <bluecake> how to uninstall apache?
[04:32] <Thirsteh> frailmage, a mount with location '/' is the root partition
[04:32] <Bradley> livefoniks: i cannot get my ATI graphics card driver instaled
[04:32] <snapemiken> frailmage, :D sry, that just the area for you to type a the bottom
[04:33] <cdubya> bluecake, sudo apt-get remove apache2
[04:33] <acecase> can I safely delete /var/log/kern.log.0, /var/log/messages.0 and /var/log/syslog.0? they are collectively eating my entire drive.
[04:33] <livefoniks> Bradley:  Which card?
[04:33] <frailmage> okay thanks
[04:33] <bluecake> cdubya, done that, rebooted. apache still runni ng
[04:33] <Llewxam> anyone know how to install guild wars under wine? got the latest version and every time i run the setup i get a: can't connect to arenanet error.
[04:33] <|seb|> cdubya: what about --purge?
[04:33] <nickrud> bluecake:  dpkg -l '*apache*' | grep ^ii , then apt-get remove <all packages listed>
[04:33] <Bradley> livefoniks: a moblity radeon (ATI) 1400
[04:34] <snapemiken> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to the chosen directory.Directory:  [/home/snapemiken/RealPlayer]     what should I enter??
[04:34] <|seb|> nickrud: what about --purge?
[04:34] <cdubya> bluecake, what does ps ax | grep apache2 say?
[04:34] <nickrud> |seb|: a personal habit, I leave conf files behind for whenever I want to reinstall
[04:35] <acecase> Llewxam: I have no idea that guild wars is to be honest, but I can say from experience that winex is worth the time
[04:35] <limp> hey guys i was just wondering if there's news about adobe flash player for gutsy (adobe flash player does not work as you may know). Because the alternative flash player is really bad and most of the flash applications will not load
[04:35] <cdubya> [seb], sorry, what?
[04:35] <Bossmanbeta> :: Is it true that #ubuntu records all chat in #ubuntu (IRseek) for potential publishing on the net ??
[04:35] <Bradley> livefoniks: a moblity radeon (ATI) 140
[04:35] <Llewxam> acecase: guild wars is an online rpg
[04:35] <Bradley> livefoniks: 1400
[04:35] <acecase> Llewxam: or whatever transgaming is calling it now.
[04:35] <Llewxam> acecase: cedega?
[04:36] <l815> the area were my laptop is, is really hot T-T
[04:36] <bluecake> cdubya, i have pstree, http://rafb.net/p/FIzURP38.html
[04:36] <vocx> !logs | Bossmanbeta
[04:36] <ubotu> Bossmanbeta: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[04:36] <cdubya> |seb|, were you asking me if I was using --purge?
[04:36] <bluecake> nickrud, i will do that
[04:36] <|seb|> cdubya: or if you should
[04:36] <acecase> Llewxam: ic. I havn't played ANY games in a long while but back when I was in to diablo II, it was MUCH better to use winex. Yeah cedega.
[04:36] <ryanzec> cdubya, that was exactly what i was looking for, just a want to drap an drop file from other servers thank you.  I also now understand how to scp file from other server to my computer, thanks for all the help
[04:36] <cdubya> ryanzec, no problem. glad it worked.
[04:36] <nickrud> bluecake: if you want to remove even the config files (useful if you've changed them and want the default next time you install)  sudo apt-get remove --purge <packages listed>
[04:36] <Bossmanbeta> well isn't that disturbing.........
[04:37] <Bradley> hello
[04:37] <Bossmanbeta> and isn't money exchanged for this?
[04:37] <Bossmanbeta> or is that not true
[04:37] <l815> how can i get my hard drive to run cooler in linux?
[04:37] <Llewxam> acecase: i'm about to try with cedega... been stuck on this since yesterday. and if i could get doom 3 to run by god i can get guild wars too >.<'
[04:37] <Bradley> can anyone help me get Linux;s drivers installed
[04:37] <cdubya> |seb|, I tend to leave them around on my system. Not probably the best in practice, but saves me from having to pull them down again if need be.
[04:37] <Bradley> and programs installed
[04:37] <bluecake> nickrud, yeah, my conf files messed up. so i want to purge everythig
[04:37] <nickrud> Bossmanbeta: no no money. The logs started as a project of one of the ubuntu devels
[04:37] <livefoniks> Bradley:  Did you just install Ubuntu?  And have you done your updates yet?
[04:37] <Scunizi> Bradley, what are you looking to install?
[04:37] <acecase> Llewxam: lol good luck
[04:37] <cdubya> bluecake, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[04:37] <|seb|> cdubya: i see...thanks
[04:38] <Llewxam> acecase: thanks
[04:38] <Bradley> livefoniks: yes i just installed the newest version but i dont know how 2 update
[04:38] <Bradley> Scunizi: the desktop effects
[04:38] <Bossmanbeta> No one should expect privacy on the IRC, but I didn't think it was systematically logged and cataloged ala 1984..............
[04:38] <Bradley> Scunizi: but it wont let me start them up
[04:38] <acecase> I'm willing to bet that there is a clean way to clean out my log files? I'm sceared to just rm them
[04:38] <Scunizi> Bradley, ah.. first look up by the clock and see if there is an orange box
[04:38] <Bradley> Scunizi: ???, its just the time
[04:38] <cdubya> bluecake, when you did the apt-get remove, did it say it was done successfully, or did you get any kind of error.
[04:38] <PriceChild> Bossmanbeta: PM please.
[04:39] <Scunizi> Bradley, ok.. what kind of video card do you have.?
[04:39] <zulerdongle> hi. does anyone know how to make a virtual windows xp machine running in virtualbox be able to accept incoming internet connections... i was thinking if i could assign a network card solely for the virtual machine the problem would be solved but i do not know how to . can anyone help? thanks in advance
[04:39] <bluecake> cdubya, i think nickrud is pointing me to the right track
[04:39] <Bradley> Scunizi: an moblity radeon 1400 by ATI
[04:39] <acecase> I did a find . -size +500M -print and I see those log files and when I do du on them they are all over a gig.
[04:40] <Scunizi> Bradley, ok.. go to system/admin/restricted drivers manager and enable the ati driver
[04:40] <cdubya> bluecake, kewl. good luck
[04:40] <Bradley> Scunizi: ok let me try
[04:40] <acecase> I'm gonna rm them then touch them all as root :)
[04:40] <livefoniks> Bradley:  Get all your updates first...then the instructions for installing the latest ATI drivers can be found here:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:41] <cdubya> !sound
[04:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:41] <isaacj87> acecase, what exact does "touching" do? i've always wonder that
[04:41] <Bradley> Scunizi: it wont let me it says "The software source for the package xorg-driver-fglrx is not enabled
[04:41] <snapemiken> How can we bring a installed program in to the "Application" menu?
[04:41] <bruenig> isaacj87: creates an empty file, it is pointless to do in bash though because it can be done with >file
[04:41] <livefoniks> Bradley:  My advice would be to NOT use the restricted drivers manager, as it holds an outdated version of the ATI driver...you'd need to install XGL to make anything work, and that's a mess.
[04:41] <moregreen> hey i am on gutsy...gnome right now, but when i try and load a KDE session i get blue screen , i see my mouse thats it.
[04:41] <isaacj87> bruenig, ah. I see
[04:41] <nickrud> snapemiken: right click the menu, then edit
[04:41] <acecase> isaacj87: basicly it just creates the file with no content
[04:42] <Bradley> livefoniks: how do i get the latest updates
[04:42] <Scunizi> Bradley, sounds like livefoniks knows more about ati than me.. I'll let him help you.
[04:42] <acecase> 2 slow :)
[04:42] <TrustNoOne> livefoniks, so you are saying that ati is not good card to use in linux?
[04:42] <vocx> snapemiken, what application?
[04:42] <zulerdongle> hi. does anyone know how to make a virtual windows xp machine running in virtualbox be able to accept incoming internet connections... i was thinking if i could assign a network card solely for the virtual machine the problem would be solved but i do not know how to . can anyone help? thanks in advance
[04:42] <Exfil> can anyone help me with a wine registry wuestion
[04:42] <isaacj87> acecase, at the risk of sound noobish...what exactly does do?
[04:42] <Scunizi> TrustNoOne, he's not .. it's just easier with nvidia
[04:42] <J-Unit> y cant i alt tab out of nexuiz?
[04:42] <Exfil> question
[04:42] <livefoniks> ATI support in Linux is still a work in progress...much better than it was 6 months ago, but still..
[04:42] <isaacj87> livefoniks, how about using Envy? not a good idea?
[04:42] <elchado> Hello, i am trying to run ntfsfix, but need to unmount a volume. How do I unmount in terminal?
[04:42] <TrustNoOne> Scunizi, well i have nvidia and ati box, nvidia one just works with ubuntu, i could never get ati card working properly with dual montior
[04:42] <isaacj87> livefoniks, for Bradley i mean
[04:42] <Bradley> livefoniks: what do to get the driver installed, i have downloaded it from the site
[04:43] <Scunizi> TrustNoOne, yep.. sounds like my situation.. :(
[04:43] <bluecake> nickrud, where file that will tell apache info about path of cgi-bin? apache2.conf has lots of include
[04:43] <acecase> isaacj87: I guess I shouldn't say "basically" because "exactly" what it does is create the file with no content and default attributes :)
[04:44] <TrustNoOne> Scunizi, my solution was: give up, just use nvidia one :)
[04:44] <Scunizi> yep
[04:44] <Bradley> livefoniks: how do i get the latest drivers, and get everything working correctly
[04:44] <livefoniks> Bradley, grab all your system updates first, before installing the new driver.  Open a terminal and type in "sudo apt-get update", no quotes...it'll prompt you for your password, then refresh your repository info.
[04:44] <vocx> zulerdongle, I don't quite understand your question. I just know that I can browse the Internet within the virtual machine without problems. Do you mean some sort of server?
[04:44] <elchado> Hello, i am trying to run ntfsfix, but need to unmount a volume. How do I unmount in terminal?
[04:44] <Bradley> livefoniks: ok, this is prob. noob but where is the terminal
[04:45] <acecase> aren't the /var/log/???.0 backups?
[04:45] <nickrud> bluecake: it's in /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default . That get's linked into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ , which is what ubuntu's version of apache uses to create the http.conf on the fly
[04:45] <livefoniks> Bradley:  Applications/Accessories/Terminal
[04:45] <acecase> *.0
[04:45] <TrustNoOne> can i the hardware for rockband work in ubuntu for games
[04:45] <sarah__> hey
[04:45] <zulerdongle> vocx i guess you could say that. i want the virtual machine to be accesible online from the outside like for example to have an ftp server, to use bittorrent correctly, etc etc
[04:45] <stacey> hello
[04:45] <acecase> TrustNoOne: I'm sure it could :)
[04:45] <sarah__> what is up!
[04:45] <stacey> nothing much..
[04:46] <sarah__> where you from?
[04:46] <stacey> i just have a question if anyone can answer this... and im from ontario.
[04:46] <sarah__> oh, well whats your question?
[04:46] <Bradley> livefoniks: okay, after that what do i do?
[04:46] <DjDarkstar> Need help with LinDVD (I have a legal copy from my mandriva2008 powerpack) I converted the rpm to deb using Alien and installed it. but i get /usr/bin/lindvd: line 3: exec: soundwrapper: not found
[04:46] <stacey> im trying to find my logs from gaim and i cant find the files.
[04:46] <elchado> How do I unmount a volume? Specifically, the one containing my Vista, so i can ntfsfix it.
[04:46] <stacey> im an idiot with ubuntu lol.
[04:46] <snapemiken> vocx: thank you I got it figure out
[04:46] <bruenig> elchado: umount volume
[04:47] <acecase> TrustNoOne: try looking for info on modding a gamepad for the console that you have rockband hardware for. It should be the same difference.
[04:47] <sarah__> ooo i don't know
[04:47] <sarah__> sorrry..
[04:47] <elchado> bruenig: thanks
[04:47] <livefoniks> Bradley:  Go to System/Administration/Update Manager...open that and follow the prompts.
[04:47] <stacey> thats alright.
[04:47] <Starnestommy> stacey: they might be somewhere in ~/.purple or ~/.gaim
[04:47] <snapemiken> nickrud: thank you so much
[04:47] <sarah__> can someone help me?
[04:47] <stacey> thanks so much!!
[04:47] <isaacj87> Starnestommy, that's what I thought...they're not in there though
[04:47] <vocx> zulerdongle, ah. I've never used it that way. But it is very possible as you just figured out.
[04:47] <TrustNoOne> acecase, ok so i couldnt just use a driver? i have to mod the hardware?
[04:47] <rhineheart_m> hello... can Portsentry be installed remotely? Can't it block the ssh server? thanks..
[04:48] <nickrud> snapemiken: no problem. You've walked yourself through a bunch of useful stuff in ubuntu now.  I'll link some useful reading
[04:48] <sarah__> hello? can someone help me by downloading a game?
[04:48] <Bradley> livefoniks: it just says download 6 files, says something else than finishes
[04:48] <nickrud> !training | snapemiken
[04:48] <ubotu> snapemiken: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[04:48] <acecase> TrustNoOne: how would you connect the hardware to the pc?
[04:48] <mrzither> Has anyone had problems where Ubuntu completely locks up when transferring large files via FTP?
[04:48] <isaacj87> sarah__, sure what game?
[04:48] <TrustNoOne> acecase, bluetooth
[04:48] <zulerdongle> vocx but i dont know how to do it.. with vmware i could select which network card to use for my virtual machine but with virtualbox i dont know
[04:48] <DjDarkstar> need help with soundwrapper
[04:48] <sarah__> well im trying to download the sims and its not letting me?
[04:48] <acecase> TrustNoOne: oic :) then I would bet there is a software solution yeah. sorry. I assumed it was XBOX plugs or something
[04:49] <vocx> zulerdongle, I mean, I think virtualization is supposed to help you do that, so it's definitely possible. But don't know with Virtualbox. By the way have you read the manual, I think it covers a lot of things.
[04:49] <Bradley> livefoniks: what now man, i did the updates
[04:49] <sarah__> can you help me with that
[04:49] <snapemiken> ubotu: yeah that's really nice but sometime the information just over the place
[04:49] <joeb3_> Has the User-switcher broken in gutsy?
[04:49] <livefoniks> Also, anyone who's having ATI driver issues can join me in #ati...there' zero traffic there.  :)
[04:49] <vocx> !bot | snapemiken
[04:49] <ubotu> snapemiken: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:49] <cdubya> sarah__, you're just trying to download a file?
[04:49] <Bradley> ok livefoniks im there
[04:50] <zero88> !bot
[04:50] <zero88> !bot | vocx
[04:50] <ubotu> vocx: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:50] <nickrud> !botsnack
[04:50] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:50] <sarah__> well its a game and when i do download it, nothing happens.?
[04:50]  * Lasivian unhappily returns to windows
[04:50] <Lasivian> good luck folks
[04:51] <cdubya> sarah__, did you make sure it was a game that was designed to run on Linux?
[04:51] <isaacj87> sarah__, so you're trying to install the sims?
[04:51] <sarah__> yeah im trying to and it is
[04:51] <cdubya> sarah__, because I'm no gamer, but I don't think there's a sims version for linux
[04:51] <acecase> TrustNoOne: just briefly looking, I see some stuff on the drum kit being used in windows so I'm sure it's doable. question is, has anyone already done the hard part? :)
[04:51] <DjDarkstar> anyone know how to solve /usr/bin/lindvd: line 3: exec: soundwrapper: not found
[04:51] <isaacj87> sarah__, yeah, and I'm looking at the sims on the WINE appdb and apparently it doesn't run with wine either :(
[04:52] <sarah__> ugh.. i don;t think that matters? does it..? lol im dumb
[04:52] <cdubya> sarah__, yeah, it won't run on linux
[04:52] <sarah__> ugh!!!!
[04:53] <sarah__> alright thanks for the help : )
[04:53] <cdubya> sarah__, np
[04:53] <sarah__> later : )
[04:53] <vocx> chicks dig the sims
[04:53] <leo_rockw> sarah__: second life does (isn't it just like sims!? lol)
[04:53] <cdubya> heh
[04:53] <bluecake> nickrud, how to tell apache to display text files on the web? when i click on file.java or file.c or file.bmp, firefox ask me to save those files?
[04:54] <cdubya> Man, I'm WAY out of the galaxy when it comes to gaming.....
[04:54] <CVD-PR> sup
[04:54] <cjones> how do you add an mp3 to a dv file in kino ?
[04:54] <cdubya> Lots o' gamers here, I suspect, though.....
[04:55] <isaacj87> cdubya, haha not me...linux+gaming=no go
[04:55] <nickrud> bluecake: that I don't know how to configure. It works properly here
[04:55] <snapemiken> nickrud: how can i move a file into a system folder? It state : you don't have the permission to write...
[04:55] <zero88> heello
[04:55] <isaacj87> hello zero88
[04:55] <bluecake> nickrud, for real? oh... shit...
[04:56] <nickrud> snapemiken: to write to anything but your home you need to invoke admin privileges. The usual way is to use sudo <command>
[04:56] <vocx> snapemiken, why do you want to do that? Maybe you don't need to.
[04:56] <nickrud> !rootsudo | snapemiken
[04:56] <ubotu> snapemiken: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:56] <cjones> how do you add an mp3 to a dv file in kino ?
[04:56] <cdubya> isaacj87, heh
[04:57] <Bossmanbeta> .
[04:58] <bluecake> nickrud, can you paste /etc/apache/apache2.conf ?
[04:58] <jacob> if i have to operating systems installed, how do i change the default operating system to boot up first?
[04:58] <nickrud> bluecake: sure.
[04:58] <jacob> two*
[04:58] <moregreen> how do you change root password
[04:59] <Flannel> moregreen: Ubuntu doesn't use the root password
[04:59] <leo_rockw> jacob: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> sudo passwd in terminal
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> "sudo passwd"
[04:59] <PriceChild> jacob: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and change the 'default' variable
[04:59] <snapemiken> nickrud, thank you
[04:59] <PriceChild> !noroot | moregreen
[04:59] <ubotu> moregreen: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[04:59] <PriceChild> whoops
[04:59] <PriceChild> !sudo | moregreen
[04:59] <ubotu> moregreen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:59] <PriceChild> _6StringKng_: see both messages by ubotu please, especially the first.
[05:00] <moregreen> yeah
[05:00] <bluecake> nickrud, http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[05:00] <_6StringKng_> ok
[05:00] <isaacj87> for those who are interested, if you're still using Feisty and want to install the Amazon MP3 Downloader...use the Debian Etch package.
[05:00] <nickrud> bluecake: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58840/ , unmodified
[05:00] <moregreen> so ... if i have an admin user (userA) and a nonadmin user (userB) and am on terminal in userB and say sudo...what password am i typing?
[05:00] <snapemiken> nickrud, but i think Ubuntu is not completely graphical interface though, user still need to stick with the code or just typing
[05:01] <PriceChild> moregreen: sudo asks for the users password.
[05:01] <Starnestommy> moregreen: userB's password
[05:01] <PriceChild> moregreen: ie, whatever user you call it as.
[05:01] <Flannel> moregreen: userB can't use sudo
[05:01] <moregreen> but if he doesnt have privledges to lets say..install....
[05:01] <PriceChild> moregreen: it will not escalate to root privelages however, unless that user is in the 'admin' group.
[05:01] <moregreen> he would have to do >su userA ??
[05:01] <PriceChild> I can't spell that name...
[05:01] <nickrud> snapemiken: there are a lot of gui tools for working with the system. I tend to use the command line because those tools didn't exist when I started
[05:01] <bluecake> nickrud, thx
[05:01] <PriceChild> *word
[05:01] <PriceChild> moregreen: no, he can't do anything.
[05:01] <moregreen> k cool.
[05:02] <moregreen> thanks guys
[05:02] <Ipo> hey quick question, the forums says i cant post...any reasons for this? i dont think i was admin banned
[05:02] <PriceChild> Ipo: come to #ubuntuforums and I'll sort you out :)
[05:03] <snapemiken> nickrud, yes, i understand that but should it be a "completely click and drag" version?
[05:03] <Atlantiz> any python gurus around that I can pm, I have a hard question
[05:04] <vocx> Atlantiz, just ask. Waiting for a guru may take ages. Also, there are other channels specialized on programming.
[05:04] <nickrud> snapemiken: I hope never. I started using linux because I hated the way ms and apple were hiding the system from me.
[05:04] <Darkmystere> I cant get some games to work with wine 0.9.57 or 0.9.56 it like flickers in and out on background instead of the destinated window
[05:04] <Wolfan> Hi I was hoping I could get some help...:-/
[05:04] <Thanatos> #<bandung>
[05:04] <leo_rockw> !ask | Wolfan
[05:04] <ubotu> Wolfan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:05] <nickrud> snapemiken: hiding the system isn't quite the right way to say it, but they made it very hard to get fine control over everything that goes on. Linux provides that access for me by design
[05:05] <PriceChild> Darkmystere: 0.9.46 is the versino in ubuntu gutsy currently. The versino you have is not supported, please try #winehq
[05:05] <Darkmystere> PriceChild, ......I already asked they sent me here
[05:06] <PriceChild> Darkmystere: you're not using an ubuntu package, go back there :)
[05:06] <snapemiken> nickrud, well, i don't know about anybody, but for me, it's really hard to get all Linux stuff in when I start
[05:06] <Darkmystere> PriceChild, lol it was a .deb! and it was in the Ubuntu section!
[05:06] <PriceChild> !info wine | Darkmystere
[05:06] <isaacj87> Darkmystere, do you disable compiz before running?
[05:06] <ubotu> darkmystere: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[05:06] <PriceChild> Darkmystere: 0.9.46 ^
[05:06] <tuntun> -_-
[05:07] <snapemiken> nickrud: and when I stuck it's really hard to get help and all
[05:07] <PriceChild> Darkmystere: 3rd party packages/repositories aren't supported here.
[05:07] <Wolfan> Oh okay, here's the problem, I just installed Ubuntu  7.04 yesterday, and I'm trying to get my sound working....I was just following one of the pages on this topic, and it told me to check aplay -l and my sound card was there, so I unmuted all of my channels and am still getting nothing...anyone know anything about this?
[05:07] <nickrud> snapemiken: don't sweat it. There's a steep learning curve to start. Just pick at it by the task you want to accomplish. Before you know it you'll reach critical mass and not need to ask anymore
[05:07] <Darkmystere> isaacj87, PriceChild, it only fully loads with Compiz on im trying without compiz and the window only flickers then disappaears..i even tried running from terminal
[05:08] <nickrud> snapemiken: here, the forums, and google "the exact error message" works really well. The last one especially
[05:08] <PriceChild> Darkmystere: #winehq
[05:08] <Atlantiz> ok then here it is, I forgot the password to my router so now I have to run a python script that will allow me to access the settings page. I am able to run it on the terminal but it returns a successful access on html code. I need to actually access the settings page on a web browser. Anyway I figured that I had to set up python to work with my apache2 server to try the script. And after some tinkering around it returns thi
[05:08] <Atlantiz> s error: http://pastebin.ca/933215 and  here is the code: http://pastebin.ca/933224
[05:08] <nickrud> snapemiken: that book I pointed you at earlier is a good start
[05:09] <dori> has anyone experienced troubles with launching different profiles of firefox (2.0.0.12) simultaneously on gutsy?
[05:09] <nickrud> Atlantiz: you'll probably find help a lot sooner on #python
[05:10] <vocx> Atlantiz, can't you do a hard reset on the router? Like with a paper clip or something?
[05:10] <nith> that'd be my bet
[05:10] <nickrud> oh, vocx cuts through the chaff and finds the meat :)
[05:11] <isaacj87> Wolfan, did you update after installing ubuntu?
[05:11] <snapemiken> nickrud: Thanks, but what i am trying to say is... should there be a linux just like ms require user to learn nothing but to use it?
[05:11] <Atlantiz> i'd rather not do a hard reset, the code gives a successful 200 ok code and shows some of the html code...I think with a little help i can get it to work
[05:12] <cjones> what program automounts your ntfs partitions on boot ?
[05:12] <nickrud> snapemiken: That's what this version is shooting at. Maybe someday
[05:12] <andrew[andrboot]> Hi, i am wondering if anyone has gotten a ATI 3850HD working with DRI and multi screen support
[05:13] <Wolfan> well I actually installed 6.10 but updated to 7.04 but not since then
[05:13] <nickrud> cjones: mount does, it's called in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh
[05:13] <jms1989> How do you add a variable in a shell script? I've been trying $something but it doesn't work when I run a string to read the variable.
[05:14] <snapemiken> nickrud: i see, it look better than the red hat from 2 years ago
[05:14] <isaacj87> Wolfan, you might wanna check to see if there are any updates available. On my GF's laptop, the sound started working after I did an update
[05:14] <leo_rockw> jms1989: i might be wrong, but i believe you need to use capital letters
[05:14] <Wolfan> well there are a few that could be installed...maybe I'll try that
[05:14] <fismoll8> hello everyone--I am trying to use my xkey usb drive with ubuntu gutsy--but it is encrypted. I am not presented with any screen asking me to enter my password when I plug it in, since autorun.inf runs off of .exe files. Any ideas on how I can get my data out of this thing?
[05:15] <jms1989> I was using numbers. $01, $02, $03, etc.
[05:15] <isaacj87> Wolfan, while you do that, what sound card do you have?
[05:15] <vocx> Atlantiz, I just noticed that your code gives and indentation error
[05:15] <nickrud> cjones: um, no it's not, wrong script I think
[05:15] <Y-Town> Everytime I reboot my computer or start from being turned off I seem to loose my bluetooth mouse and keyboard and have to sit there for a couple minutes trying to relink them.  Anyone else run into this or know a fix for the problem?
[05:15] <vocx> Atlantiz, your index(req) function is empty?
[05:16] <Wolfan> heh, I can't remember to be honest, this computer is a few years old
[05:16] <Li-Plus> hey i just installed windows and now grub isn't coming up, what is a quick way to reinstall grub easily
[05:16] <Atlantiz> vocx to be honest I don't know a lot about coding, I've been researching the topic for sometime and this is as far as I could get
[05:17] <Flannel> !grub | Li-Plus
[05:17] <ubotu> Li-Plus: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:17] <Flannel> Li-Plus: first link
[05:17] <Stoffer> anyone here use .daa files before?  I'm having some trouble dealing with them...
[05:17] <Dangermike> Have a backtrace of my Firefox seg fault. I don't really know what im looking for but it appears libc.so.6 is to blame any input? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12513343/gdb-firefox.log
[05:17] <isaacj87> Wolfan, run lspci in terminal...should tell you
[05:18] <Atlantiz> vocx, if i remove the index(req) function the code works under a terminal
[05:18] <vocx> Atlantiz, well I don't exactly know about sockets, but try commenting out that line "def index(req):"
[05:18] <warriorforgod> so interesting thing has heppened.  I rebooted my pc earlier and now ubuntu is only reading on core of my X2 5000.  Any suggestions?
[05:18] <Wolfan> this should be it no? 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:18] <sdsheeks> Morning all - I recently installed ldap to play around with it and upon reboot of my other machine I'm unable to login.... ideas?
[05:20] <Flannel> !away > Aresilek
[05:20] <amir_> سلام
[05:20] <amir_> HI
[05:20] <Wolfan> Installed the updates, didn't seem to help...
[05:20] <livefoniks> Greetings, amir_
[05:21] <leo_rockw> amir_: woah, you put my konversation backwards, lol
[05:21] <fismoll8> hello everyone--I am trying to use my xkey usb drive with ubuntu gutsy--but it is encrypted. I am not presented with any screen asking me to enter my password when I plug it in, since autorun.inf runs off of .exe files. Any ideas on how I can get my data out of this thing?
[05:21] <legend2440> Stoffer:  are you referring to direct access archive files?
[05:21] <Stoffer> legend2440, yeah
[05:21] <sutabi> I am tring to compile simdock, and its asking for gconf-2.0 and its installed but under the name gconf-sharp-2.0             GConf - GConf ... I am guessing. So does anyone know how pkg_config works? am I able to rename it?
[05:22] <legend2440> Stoffer:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
[05:22] <isaacj87> Wolfan, perhaps this will help?
[05:22] <Stoffer> legend2440, yeah I saw that already, didn't work out for me very well
[05:22] <isaacj87> Wolfan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504117
[05:22] <nickrud> sutabi: it might be asking for the corresponding   -dev package
[05:22] <Stoffer> legend2440, I went from a 885mb .daa archive to a 3.5 mb iso
[05:22] <Atlantiz> vocx, without the line the script will not show as not found by the web server. However this is what I mean by it working under terminal: http://pastebin.ca/933239
[05:23] <sutabi> nickrud: I've installed the dev and also downloaded the source and compiled it myself
[05:23] <Dangermike> Looking for advice with Firefox seg fault. This only happens when i believe flash is embedded on the website but it can also happen at random whilst looking through ubuntu forums, bugs.launchpad, and a few other sites that dont have flash
[05:23] <Dangermike> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12513343/gdb-firefox.log
[05:23] <nickrud> heh. Then something seems wrong with the simdoc if you've compiled the original source ;)
[05:23] <legend2440> Stoffer:  ok well i've never dealt with them myself so I don't know
[05:24] <vocx> Atlantiz, so it works? Now what? You want to send that to a html page?
[05:24] <Atlantiz> yes
[05:24] <Stoffer> legend2440, assuming most people probably don't think of googling it and hitting the first link, it wasn't a bad tip.  Thanks anyway though.
[05:24] <Atlantiz> that's what i've been trying to do
[05:24] <l815> my hard drive seems to be running really hot
[05:24] <Roey> I have a Geforce4 Ti4200 card and am running Gutsy Gibbon.  When I try to startx, X complains that it's using version 7185 where the Linux kernel module is at 7184.  I can't find packages to correct this.  What to do?
[05:25] <boselecta> does anybody here actually have streaming video from the BBC website working in firefox? i installed medibunty and MPlayer and MPlayer plugin and all of that and I just can't make it go.
[05:25] <Wolfan> hrmn...seems I'm already added to that group...
[05:25] <pinstp> how do you find out ur ip address
[05:25] <Starnestommy> pinstp: ifconfig?
[05:26] <pinstp> but were i go to type it in
[05:26] <Dangermike> pinstp, terminal
[05:26] <Nith> pinstp: alternatively, look for the network image in your system tray, right click then connection information
[05:26] <Dangermike> pinstp, if you have an internal address and need to find your external visit a website like whatismyip.com
[05:26] <pinstp> ok ty
[05:27] <kjp2> I have exported a directory via NFS, but sub directories that are actually mount points can't be accessed. how can I fix that ?
[05:27] <l815> is 40c too hot for a hard drive?
[05:27] <boselecta> does anybody here actually have streaming video from the BBC website working in firefox? i installed medibunty and MPlayer and MPlayer plugin and all of that and I just can't make it go.
[05:27] <Bradley> livefoniks  what is GRUB
[05:27] <Bradley>  also do you know of any good virutal machines to run Windows in Linux and
[05:27] <Bradley>  Linux in Windows
[05:28] <Wolfan> looking around it seems I'm not the only one, someone somewhere must have solved it, LOL I will find them *points up*
[05:28] <jimmythegeek_> bradley: vmware server is free as in beer, runs on both for host and guest
[05:28] <Starnestommy> Bradley: GRUB is a bootloader that can load many different operating systems
[05:28] <vocx> Atlantiz, well, I'm not sure. You would need to know which function generates the code and send it to a file object. Or maybe you can just redirect the output like "python getin.py > file.html"
[05:28] <mandrig> bradley, GRUB is an OS boot loader, allow... what he said, lol
[05:28] <neville> Bradley have a look at Virtualbox
[05:29] <Atlantiz> vocx, thank you I will start my search in that direction :D
[05:29] <leo_rockw> l815: my laptop hd is at 40c right now, if that's any reference
[05:29] <jimmythegeek_> I am trying to get a Sound Blaster Live to go.  lspci finds it, kernel mods are loaded, but I can't get sound out of alsa
[05:29] <Bradley> ok, also does Grub boot windows or no
[05:29] <leo_rockw> Bradley: yes
[05:29] <jimmythegeek_> bradley: yes
[05:30] <Bradley> cool, thatks
[05:30] <dannyboy20> how do i get my webcam to work?
[05:30] <boselecta> does anybody here actually have streaming video from the BBC website working in firefox? i installed medibuntu and MPlayer and MPlayer plugin and all of that and I just can't make it go.
[05:30] <jimmythegeek_> how do you unload a kernel module?
[05:30] <kjp2> I have exported a directory via NFS, but sub directories that are actually mount points can't be accessed. how can I fix that ?
[05:30] <MICHAELKYLE>  /join #ubuntu-es
[05:30] <l815> leo_rockw, maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it seems to be running hotter than with vista (by touch)
[05:30] <diegosouza> Bradley, i'm virtualbox user and i really enjoy it
[05:30] <Starnestommy> jimmythegeek_: sudo rmmod module
[05:30] <jimmythegeek_> starnestommy: thanks!
[05:30]  * jimmythegeek_ unloads ac97
[05:31] <Bradley> hey leo_rockw: do u think  vmware server or virtual box is better
[05:31] <leo_rockw> l815: i never used any other OS than kubuntu on this laptop, so i can't tell...
[05:31] <leo_rockw> Bradley: i don't use a virtual machine, i don't need winbugs at all
[05:31] <Atlantiz> vocx, file.html was generated and although it doesn't provide access, it shows the access page saved :)
[05:31] <zero88> Anybody know of any good free proxies out there
[05:31] <Bradley> lol
[05:31] <Bradley> ok
[05:32] <leo_rockw> Bradley: if anything, i use wine
[05:32] <leo_rockw> Bradley: the only win app i use is a map of my city
[05:32] <Bradley> is that the name?
[05:32] <neville> leo_rockw Windows has its uses, and remember, its not its fault that it's evil. It's Microsoft. Take it up with them, not an OS that has tis uses
[05:32] <Bradley> wine
[05:32] <Bradley> Microsoft is great
[05:32] <vocx> Atlantiz, so, I'm a genius? Or there are still issues?
[05:32] <neville> Microsoft are a crook bunch
[05:32] <Bradley> they give so much money to people
[05:33] <Bradley> no, they donate so much money to charity
[05:33] <mandrig> and take so much from far many more.
[05:33] <neville> They take even more from people
[05:33] <mandrig> nice neville ;)
[05:33] <l815> windows & mac are equally bad
[05:33] <leo_rockw> neville: i just said i had no use for it
[05:33] <l815> no one OS is flawless , just take what you like best
[05:33] <Atlantiz> vocx, there are still some issues...as the I only have access to the "saved" file not the actual .htm page
[05:33] <leo_rockw> Bradley: wine is a linux implementation of window$ apis
[05:34] <neville> leo_rockw I never denied that
[05:34] <vocx> Windows is good or bad is offtopic. Don't discuss it here.
[05:34] <docta_v> OS X is easily the best desktop OS
[05:34] <neville> Wine is as dodgey as a contractor
[05:34] <leo_rockw> ^ true
[05:34] <caem> yes....
[05:35] <leo_rockw> wine is not to be trusted, but it happens to work with the only win app i use
[05:35] <Bradley> oh
[05:35] <Bradley> ok
[05:35] <Dangermike> !wine | wine
[05:35] <ubotu> wine: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:35] <Dangermike> !wine | Bradley
[05:35] <ubotu> Bradley: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[05:35] <Dangermike> rofl
[05:35] <l815> what program can i use to display my hd temp all the time
[05:35] <isaacj87> Dangermike, nice
[05:36] <Dangermike> slip of the finger :\
[05:36] <leo_rockw> l815: i'm on KDE, i made a superkaramba widget based off hdparm
[05:36] <abhay> i am not able to initialise my acer webcamera .i tried cameroma but it's not working
[05:36] <bazhang> !info lm-sensors
[05:36] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[05:36] <moregreen> hey when i log in on KDE i dont see any icons and no menus or panels...what gives?
[05:36] <l815> leo_rockw, i'd prefer one for gnome :), thanks though
[05:36] <vocx> Atlantiz, and the actual .htm is in the router, right?
[05:37] <Atlantiz> correct
[05:37] <leo_rockw> l815: hdparm is a console program
[05:37] <leo_rockw> l815: i just use superkaramba as a... i'd call it "frontend"
[05:37] <l815> leo_rockw, well i'm looking for something i can add to my panel
[05:38] <Dangermike> l815, you can use conky to get read outs from system programs
[05:38] <Nith> <3 vim
[05:38] <l815> leo_rockw, okay i'll check it out thanks :)
[05:38] <leo_rockw> Nith: emacs is better (well, i never used emacs, but it's never too late for a flamewar)
[05:39] <Dangermike> Looking for help/advice with Firefox seg fault. This happened when i went to a embedded flash website http://speedtest.net , but it can also happen at random whilst looking through ubuntu forums, bugs.launchpad, and a few other sites that dont have flash. I believe libc.so.6 is to blame but can it be replaced? do i just delete and possibly reinstall, or can it even be reinstalled (redownloaded)?
[05:39] <Dangermike> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12513343/gdb-firefox.log
[05:39] <Nith> lol
[05:40] <Nith> 'dammit emacs'
[05:41] <vocx> Isn't like libc the GNU C library, the most important piece of software created, essential for everything?
[05:41] <leo_rockw> Nith: http://xkcd.com/378/ ;-)
[05:41] <Dangermike> vocx, it happens with every browser i have installed
[05:41] <Dangermike> not just firefox but i am focused on firefox
[05:41] <leo_rockw> vocx: you're thinking gcc i believe
[05:41] <leo_rockw> voxc: gnu c compiler
[05:41] <hidox> .cl
[05:41] <joeytwiddle> {CL} server closed, try !nwctf
[05:41] <Aresilek> My adept manager, add/remove programs and apt-get have ceased to function
[05:42] <Aresilek> I get: Reading package lists... Done| Bus error (core dumped)e... 50%
[05:42] <ethan961> love the xkcd!
[05:42] <cjones> what program rips cds to mp3s
[05:42] <leo_rockw> ethan961: <3
[05:42] <boselecta> does anybody here actually have streaming video from the BBC website working in firefox? i installed medibuntu and MPlayer and MPlayer plugin and all of that and I just can't make it go.
[05:42] <ZorbalExPlon> hey yall, how i fix this. something with the vertical sync with refresh rate i guess. when i move my wobby windows around for instance you notice like all these horizontal lines chopping through and causing it to lag and stuff
[05:42] <ethan961> <33 xkdc
[05:42] <J-Unit> i downloaded folding@home for linux and it's an .exe!
[05:43] <J-Unit> wat do i do?
[05:43] <leo_rockw> ethan961: the image alt is so good
[05:43] <moregreen> Anyone know why my KDE comes up blank? blue screen with a mouse...all the panels are invisible and dont do anything
[05:43] <J-Unit> wine doesnt work
[05:43] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: i would email the developers "yo, folding@home for linux is an exe!"
[05:43] <vocx> leo_rockw, do "ldd /bin/<ommand>" and you'll see that everything is linked against libc. Gcc is only the compiler.
[05:43] <ethan961> moregreen: kde3 or 4?
[05:44] <leo_rockw> vocx: oh, thank you, didn't know that
[05:44] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, lol
[05:44] <moregreen> no idea , help me out
[05:44] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: or try alien LOLOL
[05:45] <moregreen> how do i find my kde version
[05:45] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, but seriously (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/LinConsoleInstall) it says a command maybe its wat i need to do?
[05:45] <amerio> any idea how to set SMTP Server in thunderbird for hotmail?
[05:45] <moregreen> >kde -version?
[05:45] <moregreen> no...
[05:45] <leo_rockw> moregreen: open any kde app and go help>about kde
[05:46] <boselecta> ZorbalExPlon: you have to manually calculate the video mode.
[05:46] <leo_rockw> moregreen: or from terminal: kde-config --version
[05:46] <moregreen> i have KDE 3.5.8
[05:46] <Flannel> amerio: Do you have a hotmail account that allows POP access?
[05:46] <dsargeant> cjones: sound juicer should be able to.  It's the default cd extractor under applications -> sound.  You'll have to change the settings under preferences.
[05:47] <moregreen> is that old or what?
[05:47] <vocx> Dangermike, well, to answer your original question. I don't know why firefox segfaults, it just does. I crashes on my machine when I start it and then move the windows around a lot. But after that all goes well.
[05:47] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: checking
[05:47] <ZorbalExPlon> boselecta, how do i do that?
[05:47] <leo_rockw> moregreen: it's the one that comes with gutsy
[05:47] <Nith> firefox has never crashed on my box
[05:47] <leo_rockw> moregreen: there's 3.5.9 and 4.0, but i'd stay with 3.5.8 if i were you
[05:47] <Nith> wierd
[05:47] <amerio> Flannel I can recieve emails but cant send emails , downloaded the extentions webmail and webmail-hotmail for thunderbird
[05:47] <caem> yes i need you..
[05:47] <warriorforgod> I rebooted my machine and now it is only reading one of my 2 cores.  Any insight as to why this would happen?
[05:47] <moregreen> okkkayy..
[05:48] <caem> but i likeyou
[05:48] <Nith> of course one of they guys at work has had firefox running with something like 40+ tabs for over a month
[05:48] <Nith> so firefox acts wierd around me
[05:48] <moregreen> leo_rockw: its not working though...
[05:48] <leo_rockw> moregreen: updating it to 3.5.9 or 4.0 won't help either
[05:48] <boselecta> ZorbalExPlon: I was mostly joking, but the old timers will remember doing it this way. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/text/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO
[05:48] <Dangermike> vocx, mines almost completely unusable same with epiphany, galeon, iceape and the many other browsers i have installed :\ my bug at launch pad has been open for several days now without response. I am sort of running out of options i have already reformatted and reinstalled Gutsy. Im guessing i will just have to downgrade to an older version :\
[05:48] <moregreen> ok
[05:48] <biabia> can anyone recommend a good/decent/fair fserve script for xchat?    I tried tuxserv but it seems buggy and hasnt been updated it like 3-4 yrs
[05:49] <moregreen> so how can i solve this
[05:49] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: apparently they gave it a .exe extension cuz they felt like it
[05:49] <moregreen> anyone ever heard of this before
[05:49] <dsargeant> cjones: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html
[05:49] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:49] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: just follow the steps provided on the page
[05:49] <moregreen> everythings blank in KDE
[05:49] <ZorbalExPlon> thanks for the link
[05:49] <ethan961> Moregreen, can you access konsole via alt-f2?
[05:49] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: give it executable permisson (chmod +x filename) and then run it ./filename
[05:49] <StrangeCharm> on a fujitsu p7230, using either the inbuilt microphone, or a working microphone headset connected via stereo jacks, i don't seem to be able to get any audio input. is there any way i can fix this?
[05:49] <moregreen> i havent tried
[05:50] <boselecta> ZorbalExPlon: unless you're doing something weird, manually calculating your video timings is not the answer.
[05:50] <moregreen> im gonna try that and a diff username
[05:50] <vocx> Dangermike, you mean none of the browsers work? That is odd. Are you running some sort of old PC, or maybe the RAM is screwed?
[05:50] <ZorbalExPlon> oh, well what should i do
[05:50] <Flannel> amerio: Do those extensions advertise being able to send?
[05:50] <m0u5e> where does gnome keep all it's file ext handlers? is there a conf file with a list of .ext somewhere?
[05:50] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, i have it on desktop in a folder named "FAH504-Linux"...wat would be the exact command?
[05:50] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, commands*
[05:50] <boselecta> ZorbalExPlon: wish I could help. try to find resources in the forum for your video card and/or monitor type. google will work.
[05:50] <m0u5e> i remember i found it before... but i don't remember where it is now...
[05:50] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: the ones that appear on the page
[05:50] <kjp2> how can i re-enable a system service to start up on boot ? like samba
[05:50] <chowder> Does anyone know how to change the default resolution for OpenGL?
[05:51] <ZorbalExPlon> will do
[05:51] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:51] <Flannel> kjp2: undo whatever ou did to disable it
[05:51] <boselecta> does anybody here actually have streaming video from the BBC website working in firefox? i installed medibuntu and MPlayer and MPlayer plugin and all of that and I just can't make it go.
[05:51] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, location of files doesnt matter??
[05:51] <Dangermike> vocx, Its a newer machine Asus m2n-mx mobo amd 3600+ 2 ocz platinum 1gb ram .. fairly recent specs X86 arch..
[05:51] <kjp2> Flannel: yeah, I forgot the command. rc update?
[05:51] <amerio> Flannel : yup , those extentions were made to make hotmail accounts work on thunderbird , though Im not able 2 send emails
[05:51] <Flannel> !bum | kjp2
[05:51] <ubotu> kjp2: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:51] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: go to the directory the file is in (using cd)
[05:51] <m0u5e> also... has anyone been able to fix the annoying mplayer_rc2 bug that involves the weird %20 naming converssion whenever you try to play certain files?
[05:51] <chowder> Does anyone know how to change the default resolution for OpenGL?
[05:52] <J-Unit> wat would i type exactly for the cd command?
[05:52] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: then write: sudo chmod +x FAH5-Linux.exe
[05:52] <StrangeCharm> can anyone help me out with microphone problems?
[05:52] <Flannel> amerio: They're scrapers.  Do they advertise the ability to send mail through hotmail though?  Hotmail itself has no SMTP server, unless you were grandfathered in
[05:52] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: where did you save the file?
[05:52] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:52] <J-Unit> on desktop in a folder called "FAH504-Linux"
[05:52] <Finnish> Good morning
[05:52] <StrangeCharm> Flannel: hotmail does have smtp servers, they're just not available for all acounts
[05:52] <leo_rockw> morning Finnish
[05:52] <vocx> Dangermike, Just to be sure, run the memtest.bin that appears in the grub menu when you power on the machine. Maybe it's the RAM, who knows.
[05:53] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: open up a terminal and type in the following: cd Desktop/FAH504-Linux
[05:53] <Finnish> I'm ripping my CD with RipperX, and the result files are always only 2.0kb in size???
[05:53] <Dangermike> vocx, ok i will try that in a bit thanks for the input! nobody else really had recommended anything to me before
[05:53] <warriorforgod> I rebooted my machine and now it is only reading one of my 2 cores.  Any insight as to why this would happen?
[05:53] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: you can use the tab key for autocompletion
[05:53] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, thats the first command i put in?
[05:53] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: yes
[05:53] <amerio> Flannel: I have no idea Flannel , the guides I read say that you can send emails , is there anyway to make it work?
[05:53] <chowder> Does anyone know how to change the default resolution for OpenGL?
[05:53] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, k
[05:53] <kimberly> HELLO IM A NEWBIE
[05:53] <Nith> chowder: please be more specific
[05:53] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: and i would recommend reading a lil bit about cli commands, they are really useful
[05:53] <leo_rockw> kimberly: don't scream please
[05:53] <Nith> kimberly: Hello, welcome to #ubuntu
[05:54] <wasabi_> i'm trying to build evolution from svn on gusty, but i can't seem to run it after installing. anyone here know any repo with svn debs?
[05:54] <J-Unit> cli commands?
[05:54] <vocx> Dangermike, any other symptoms? Have you installed something in and odd way, compiled something?
[05:54] <chowder> Nith: what other information do u need?
[05:54] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, cli commands?
[05:54] <Flannel> amerio: You really need to consult the documentation for those particular extensions.  You might try #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[05:54] <mandrig> Hi Kimberly
[05:54] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: command line interface == cli
[05:54] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:54] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, now type in the following: sudo chmod +x FAH5-Linux.exe
[05:54] <kimberly> SCREM ONLY WHEN...  YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW
[05:54] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: and enter your password
[05:54] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, well now i understand the cd stuff ;) i needed to c that command from u as well as turn the graphical buttons wen viewing things to text
[05:54] <lackli> thet nine inch nails ordering site isn't working
[05:55] <lackli> https://store.nin.com/main/order_options
[05:55] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, no such file or directory
[05:55] <Nith> chowder: is it for compiz, some game, what for? Asking for changing the default resolution of openGL seems to not make sense to me but it could be just me
[05:55] <amerio> Flannel : well , I need any good mail software that works with hotmail , it doesnt matter for me if its thunderbird or not , Evolution works with hotmail?
[05:55] <Dangermike> vocx, not really i cant explain this happened directly after a new install. I had ran apt-get upgrade . after that it started failing but i believe those just to be from the standard repo i hadn't added any new ones to this install
[05:55] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, try the command ls
[05:55] <chowder> Nith: it's for a game called Urban Terror
[05:55] <wasabi_> i'm trying to build evolution from svn on gusty, but i can't seem to run it after installing. anyone here know any repo with svn debs?
[05:55] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: and see if the file is there
[05:55] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, it is
[05:56] <Flannel> amerio: Hotmail doesn't allow direct connection from mail clients (unless you have an old account that does).  Because they want to show you ads and stuff.
[05:56] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, like i did the command not just gui way
[05:56] <chowder> Nith: i was playing the game Urban Terror, I changed the screen resolution and the game crashed.  terminal output points to too high of a resolution.  It set the default OpenGL resolution too high.  i just need to find that file so i can edit the default resolution
[05:56] <crushy> is there any firewall for ubuntu with gui?
[05:56] <J-Unit> crushy, firestarter
[05:56] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, then sudo chmod +x FAH5-Linux.exe should work
[05:56] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: use tab to autocomplete the name of the file
[05:56] <crushy> for gnome?
[05:56] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: linux is case sensitive
[05:56] <J-Unit> crushy, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[05:56] <J-Unit> crushy, ya
[05:56] <Flannel> crushy: and Guarddog for KDE
[05:56] <vocx> Dangermike, oh yes, you mentioned that it was a fresh install.
[05:56] <crushy> ty bro  j-unit
[05:56] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:57] <crushy> :)
[05:57] <Nith> chowder: I'm sorry but I'm not sure how to do it. My first instinct is try to set your X resolution lower and see if the game follows suite from that
[05:57] <J-Unit> crushy, np
[05:57] <amerio> Flannel what do you mean by an old account ?
[05:57] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, doesnt work still
[05:57] <chowder> I'll try that Nith
[05:58] <Strump> oO
[05:58] <Strump> sry
[05:58] <Flannel> amerio: some older accounts had the ability, when they stopped giving it out for free, if you already had an account, you got grandfathered in
[05:58] <Strump> where is the germany icr chat Ubuntu ?=?
[05:58] <ceil420> !sourceomatic
[05:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[05:58] <Flannel> !de | Strump
[05:58] <ubotu> Strump: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:58] <ceil420> :o
[05:58] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: if the file is there then it has to work
[05:58] <Strump> thx
[05:58] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: sudo chmod +x FAH5-Linux.exe
[05:58] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: copy paste
[05:58] <amerio> Flannel : I see , then i'll keep checking it via web :) thank you flannel
[05:58] <mandrig> can anyone help me, when I play an avi in totem player, it doesn't deinterlace properly, there are green bars intersecting the video. and when I play the same avi in VideoLan, theres a green bar at the top of the video.
[05:58] <Strump> bye all
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, thats wat i was doing
[05:59] <Nith> Strump: Cheers
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, it still doesnt work :(
[05:59] <mandrig> amerio, you could open up a gmail account, and forward your old email there.
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, i just loked at thing
[05:59] <vocx> mandrig, it's probable that there is not solution because the file is using windows codecs that are not properly supported in linux.
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, and it says to do another command b4 the cd
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw,
[05:59] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: wait, what's the name of the file?
[05:59] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, mkdir /folding
[05:59] <J-Unit> cd /folding
[05:59] <J-Unit> wget http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/FAH502-Linux.exe
[05:59] <J-Unit> chmod +x FAH502-Linux.exe
[05:59] <FloodBot2> J-Unit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <diegosouza> mandrig, about the totem I had problems too, so i use VLC well configured
[06:00] <Dangermike> J-Unit, if its a windows executable run wine FAH502-Linux.exe
[06:00] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: it isn't
[06:00] <Dangermike> heh
[06:00] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: they just named it .exe for some weird reason
[06:00] <Dangermike> wtfux
[06:00] <crushy> bro j-unit how to configure it ?
[06:00] <mandrig> diego, with VLC I still have a green section at the top.
[06:00] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: he's trying to chmod +x and ./file
[06:00] <diegosouza> mandrig, check all vlc configs, they are too much
[06:00] <crushy> someone came in my pc today
[06:01] <crushy> and typed some strange commands
[06:01] <Nith> my sql is rusty -.-
[06:01] <crushy> ho bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &DB.exe &exit
[06:01] <crushy> this :-s
[06:01] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: use nautilus and find where you saved the file
[06:01] <J-Unit> crushy, it has a wizard if for some reason it dint come wen u have firestarter started click firewall->run wizard
[06:01] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: then open a terminal and go to that directory
[06:01] <SkinnypuppY34> I'm thinking of getting a dual core processor and mb. Do you have to do anything in config to activate the second proc core?
[06:01] <diegosouza> mandrig, i'm with a perfect video display because i've tested many config options
[06:01] <nickrud> SkinnypuppY34: no
[06:01] <vocx> SkinnypuppY34, no
[06:02] <crushy> yes i did
[06:02] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, wats nautilus
[06:02] <SkinnypuppY34> Cool , thanks
[06:02] <crushy> will that block all ports?
[06:02] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: gnome file manager. you can use konqueror if you're on kde.
[06:02] <ethan961> J-Unit: nautilus it the gnome file browser
[06:02] <Dangermike> J-Unit, if it still gives you a problem chmod a+x FAH502-Linux.exe  i was able to extract the content and get in the installer that way
[06:02] <Starnestommy> crushy: I don't think so
[06:02] <[meme]> I am mounting a 1 TB FakeRAID in Ubuntu 7.10, is it normal that the mounting takes several seconds?
[06:02] <vocx> SkinnypuppY34, the linux kernel itself has supported Symmetric multi processing for many years, but only recently the multi core processors became popular.
[06:02] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, im on gnome
[06:03] <crushy> tos filtering? shall i choose servers there for more secure system :-s
[06:03] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: open up nautilus and go to the folder where you saved the file
[06:03] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: i don't use gnome, can't you do the chmod +x from nautilus? you can do that with kde
[06:04] <boselecta> oh gosh i think i am seeing streaming bbc videos in firefox!
[06:04] <Dangermike> leo_rockw, you can open as admin
[06:04] <leo_rockw> boselecta: you may want to write a how-to
[06:04] <J-Unit> crushy, well -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestarter_%28firewall%29 might say
[06:04] <nickrud> boselecta: how'd you set yours up?
[06:04] <SkinnypuppY34> vocx thanks . Been many years since I did a dual  pentium board
[06:04] <J-Unit> crushy, oops nvm i dint look b4 sending
[06:04] <Maimster> How's everyone tonight..
[06:04] <leo_rockw> Maimster: peachy
[06:04] <crushy> before sending what
[06:05] <Nith> Maimster: kicking myself for forgetting sql
[06:05] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, wen u say open up nautilus do u mean like go to the file in gui way?
[06:05] <Nith> Maimster: And you?
[06:05] <mandrig> diegosouza: could you help me with the settings I need?
[06:05] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: yup
[06:05] <Dangermike> J-Unit, go to places then Desktop
[06:05] <boselecta> select trunc(sysdate) from dual
[06:05] <Maimster> I got out of a bad kernel so I am fine.
[06:05] <Maimster> SQL is pretty nice and handy to know.
[06:06] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: thanks, i don't know all those gnome things.
[06:06] <Dangermike> np
[06:06] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, Dangermike, k, i went to places -> desktop now?
[06:06] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: don't you have a folder there? FAH5-Linux or smth like that?
[06:06] <Dangermike> J-Unit, in what directory did you execute wget
[06:06] <Nith> good recovery, I don't know how to get out of a bad kernel
[06:06] <boselecta> all i know is selects mostly. drop table, insert, delete, cursor and all of that i haven't yet needed.
[06:06] <crushy> br
[06:06] <crushy> brb
[06:06] <Nith> heck, I dont even know how to tell if a kernel is bad
[06:07] <nickrud> it doesn't boot
[06:07] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, folder on desktop is called FAH504-Linux and file within is called FAH504-Linux.exe
[06:07] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: i'm guessing ~, since he didn't know how to use cd
[06:07] <Dangermike> ...
[06:07] <J-Unit> Dangermike, execute wget?
[06:07] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok
[06:07] <Maimster> Nith: You download, compile, reboot then have it tell you that there are no restricted drivers for it.  You go back if you can!!!!
[06:07] <diegosouza> mandrig, well... i saw the screenshot i really don't know... but if u want remote desktop i think i can try
[06:07] <Dangermike> J-Unit, Double click the folder on the desktop -_-'
[06:07] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: go to terminal and copy paste the following: cd ~/Desktop/FAH504-Linux
[06:08] <Dangermike> better yet follow leo_rockw answer you need to do it from terminal
[06:08] <nickrud> Maimster: if you want a custom kernel, you have to compile custom video drivers ;)
[06:08] <boselecta> hm now my video is gone but i still have sound.
[06:08] <J-Unit> Dangermike, i tried double clicking it, as well as right clicking and selecting open in another way or wtv and typed wineconsole none of that worked
[06:08] <Dangermike> it needs to be renamed and not opened with wine
[06:08] <Dangermike> thats why its not working
[06:08] <Maimster> nickrud Yep! I was really chasing new drivers for my Realtek 1000MB NIC.
[06:08] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, ok i did cd ~/Desktop/FAH504-Linux
[06:08] <nickrud> boselecta: is that with mplayer plugin? I ended up installing realplayer so I could watch bbc
[06:08] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, now?
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: it doesn't really need to be renamed
[06:09] <boselecta> yeah with mplayer.
[06:09] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, now copy paste this: sudo chmod +x FAH504-Linux.exe
[06:09] <Maimster> nickrud: I will just leave well enough alone.
[06:09] <Dangermike> leo_rockw, if its doing it from the GUI yes it does but if your going to take him through term just a+x the file and ./
[06:09] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: and then type in your password
[06:09] <nickrud> Maimster: heh. So do I
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: oh, ok. i know what you mean
[06:09] <Maimster> nickrud: Ubuntu hates my motherboard.
[06:09] <Dangermike> Maimster, hate it back
[06:09] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: then i should make him rename it so he can use nautilus in the future
[06:09] <Maimster> Dangermike: Lol
[06:09] <Nith> Linux hates my graphics card!
[06:10] <nickrud> Maimster: it doesn't hate it, it despises my ati
[06:10] <stacey> hey is anyone there?
[06:10] <Dangermike> leo_rockw, ehh take him through terminal its a setup process so if he does it through the GUI he would have to the option to 'run in terminal'
[06:10] <Maimster> nickrud: I got my nVidia restricted drives running under the stock generic kernel.
[06:10] <boselecta> i have it working with 256k quality wmv streams. but for 512k the picture goes away.
[06:10] <Nith> I can't wait to say to my kids "way back when ati cards existed and linux was complicated"
[06:10] <Maimster> nickrud So really I should not be crying about this stuff.
[06:10] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: did it work?
[06:10] <Dangermike> !ask | stacey
[06:10] <ubotu> stacey: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:11] <dn4> what is an open source software that can graph rotating coordinate systems in 3d or 4space
[06:11] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, http://pastebin.com/d2853988f
[06:11] <leo_rockw> Nith: ever tried a winmodem back when?
[06:11] <Maimster> nickrud: My downloads are so painfully slow though...  33kbps... install of 700-800kbps
[06:11] <Maimster> install = instead.
[06:11] <n2diy> dn4: kstars?
[06:11] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, but nutn started and there r no multiple files in the folder like the site said there would be
[06:11] <Nith> leo_rockw: my kids will know the same feeling I get from that question when asked if they remember ati
[06:11] <Nith> atleast I hope
[06:11] <nickrud> Maimster: try living at the bottom of a 3k pipe. I used to live in the real sticks
[06:11] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: good, now copy paste this one: mv FAH504-Linux.exe FAH504-Linux
[06:12] <Maimster> Everything else on this system is really running nice though.
[06:12] <leo_rockw> Nith: hahaha
[06:12] <Maimster> nickrud: I would find a nice roof and jump!
[06:12] <stacey> ok. i am trying to make some back up discs of all my shit on my computer. and i just put the blank cd in and it asked if i wanted to burn a cd and i said yes. so i put the files i wanted into the folder and pressed write to disc. it took like 5 mins but nothing was burnt to the disc. what other programs can i use? im an idiot with linux by the way lol
[06:12] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, again no response it just gives me the feeling i have to keep putting commands
[06:12] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: no, that's good
[06:12] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, ya i assumed so
[06:13] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: now this one: ./FAH504-Linux
[06:13] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: that should run the program
[06:13] <vocx> stacey, don't use the s-word. And you can use "gnomebaker".
[06:13] <Maimster> stacey: Welcome to the family! hehe...  Which program are you using..  I use k3b myself.
[06:13] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: next time you want to run it you can just navigate to the file with the gui
[06:13] <leo_rockw> <3 k3b
[06:13] <Dangermike> stacey, if your looking for burning software k3b is another good option
[06:14] <vocx> stacey, Are you sure nothing was burnt? Have you ejected the disk?
 - where do i find it?
[06:14] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, things r going well but wats a proxy?
[06:14] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, sry for being stupid
[06:14] <Dangermike> stacey, synaptic
[06:14] <stacey> i just have the stuff that i can get without installing it with the terminal. i was planning on being smart about computers but i got lost a long time ago lol.
[06:14] <Nubbie> hi, i'm having issues with hardy... upon boot, i am met with an error that stat's something roughly like this: acpi_ec_wait, and it hangs there. i am able to boot the recovery kernel though... any thoughts?
[06:15] <Dangermike> stacey, synaptics is a gui program found under system->admin->synaptic
[06:15] <Dangermike> !synaptic | stacey
[06:15] <ubotu> stacey: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:15] <vocx> !hardy | Nubbie
[06:15] <ubotu> Nubbie: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:16] <Nubbie> vocx: thanks, but that channel is dead.
[06:16] <stacey> thanks so much!!!  seriously this helps sooo much lol.
[06:16] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: you're not being stupid, everyone has to start somewhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server
[06:16] <vexati0n> is there any way i can get my system to automatically detect the insertion of  CD, and run a command if it meets certain criteria?
[06:16] <vexati0n> on a CLI-only machine
[06:16] <vocx> Nubbie, you should not expect help here.
[06:16] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, i love computers alot and stuff but ive never passed the boundaries that microsoft put on windows users (if u no wat i mean)
[06:17] <Nubbie> vocx: i don't expect help anywhere, i just hope there is somebody with the answer to my problem.
[06:17] <n2diy> vexati0n: try asking in #bash?
[06:17] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, xept for proxy stuff that i just dint no
[06:17] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: yup, you're still in the matrix, haha
[06:17] <Maimster> leo_rockw lol
[06:17] <Nubbie> vocx: i asked in ubuntu+1, it's dead. so i figured there's a good chance there are hardy users in here.
[06:18] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, proxy = transfer of data to and from servers?
[06:18] <vocx> Nubbie, again, it's not nice to do that. It is alpha software for a reason. Most bugs are discussed in mailing lists, bug trackers, not on irc channels.
[06:18] <Nubbie> J-Unit: a proxy is an intermediate stop in the flow of data between you and the world.
[06:18] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: a proxy is like an extra layer between you and other servers
[06:18] <Dangermike> J-Unit, that is really offtopic the wikipedia article should explain how proxy servers work ;)
[06:20] <raju> how to make the licecd to work
[06:20] <J-Unit> Dangermike, well all i needed to no was that it was transfer from sumtin to sumtin, i was hoping for a sentence definition instead i got pages lol
[06:20] <raju> how to make the licecd work
[06:20] <Dangermike> raju, bug dna isn't yet used for data storage
[06:20] <Dangermike> but their working on it ;P
[06:21] <RoadHazard> dood if you find a way to put lice to work, I"ll invest
[06:21] <raju> Dangermike, yours is not clear
[06:21] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, so wait "use proxy" yes or no? wat would be the difference for me? i said to ask everytime it connects since im on dial-up
[06:21] <Dangermike> RoadHazard, i believe its harvard that has invested in bug dna data storage research
[06:21] <Starnestommy> raju: are any error messages showing up when you try to start it?
[06:21] <Dangermike> J-Unit, the answer for you would be no
[06:21] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: you're not using a proxy
[06:22] <raju> Starnestommy, yeah unable to mount the filesystem
[06:22] <suxxor> hello
[06:22] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, Dangermike, the fact that im using dial-up makes that a no?
[06:22] <suxxor> i am using anjuta
[06:22] <Dangermike> J-Unit, the fact you dont know what a proxy is means its a no you would know if your using one
[06:22] <Starnestommy> raju: sounds like it might be a burn error
[06:22] <warriorforgod> I rebooted my machine and now it is only reading one of my 2 cores.  Any insight as to why this would happen?
[06:22] <Dangermike> !md5 | raju
[06:22] <ubotu> raju: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:22] <leo_rockw> Dangermike: yup, if you had set up a proxy you would know
[06:23] <suxxor>  when i am trying to run the target it shows me 2 line section
[06:23] <suxxor> what should i insert in them
[06:23] <J-Unit> Dangermike, k. thx
[06:24] <vocx> suxxor, I'm sorry, but you shouldn't be asking that here. You should read the manual or documentation for the program, or better yet, learn to compile from the command line, and then use and IDE.
[06:24] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, thx to u 2, things seem to be wortking, im still answering da questions tho
[06:24] <raju> Starnestommy, i burn the cd many times , on diferent machine too , it is not working it is going upto mounting the filesystem
[06:24] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: good :-)
[06:25] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, it said welcome to folding@home and stuff from them that means it connected :)
[06:25] <Starnestommy> raju: is your CD drive IDE, SATA, SCSI, or USB?
[06:25] <raju> Dangermike, i checked the md5 also it is fine
[06:25] <Dangermike> raju, any more verbose information about the error?
[06:25] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: haha, awesome
[06:25] <Dangermike> raju, can you switch to a terminal and login or no?
[06:26] <MaXo2> Bonsoir
[06:26] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, so wait all the work is gona be done on my folder on the desktop? or another directory?
[06:26] <raju> Dangermike, shall i send a file about the error
[06:26] <Brajuh> o.O
[06:26] <Brajuh> O.o
[06:26] <Dangermike> J-Unit, it depends on where folding@home installed to
[06:26] <Dangermike> raju, another question was asked of you by Starnestommy you should answer this question also
[06:26] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: it might use the same folder the file is in, or it might create a hidden folder in your home
[06:27] <raju> Starnestommy, Cd drive sata means , im not bgetting
[06:27] <bullgard4> What is the function of the kondemand/0 process? Does it control the CPU clock frequency?
[06:27] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, its on the desktop under a folder name "work" kinda ovious ;)
[06:27] <raju> Starnestommy, i am using SATA hard disk
[06:28] <Starnestommy> raju: is the CD drive also SATA?
[06:28] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, so wait, from now on (my linux days) ill run it off a terminal? and how would i start the program?
[06:28] <raju> Starnestommy, ya
[06:28] <icesword> anyone can give me a tool can turn img to iso?it should works in windows
[06:28] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: you should be able to navigate to the folder with the gui, and running the program from the gui. (maybe right clicking and running from terminal)
[06:29] <Dangermike> J-Unit, that package isnt supported by ubuntu it would be best if you were familiar with the documentation for folding@home
[06:29] <vocx> !iso | icesword
[06:29] <raju> Dangermike, the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[06:29] <ubotu> icesword: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:29] <icesword> vocx, no,i want change a img file to a iso file,ok?
[06:29] <jimmythegeek_> Hey, folks.  How would you go about changing the mount point for /var ?  I have too small a partition for it to support an upgrade, would like it to just share a large / for now
[06:30] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, right clicking and open wit other app then type wat?
[06:30] <jimmythegeek_> /etc/fstab has a UUID I'm not familiar with
[06:30] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: right clicking and "open in terminal"
[06:30] <J-Unit> Dangermike, wat package isnt supported by ubuntu? folding@home?
[06:30] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, o
[06:30] <crxyem> ok, just did a dist-upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 and lost my wireless connection, ipw2200, my router is wpa
[06:30] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: yeah, folding@home isn't part of the ubuntu repos
[06:30] <vocx> !uuid | jimmythegeek_
[06:30] <raju> Dangermike, error follows " /bib/bash cannot access tty : job control turned off "
[06:30] <ubotu> jimmythegeek_: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:31] <Dangermike> icesword, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3115582
[06:31] <icesword> Dangermike, ok,thank you ,sir
[06:31] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, if its not in the repositories that means its not supported? that makes sense if its like that and right click on the initial .exe file?
[06:32] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: what he meant by not supported is that people here won't be able to help you if there's any problem with that app. the program will work fine, tho
[06:32] <Dangermike> J-Unit, that just means that you cant always expect absolute answers for folding@home unless someone has been using it or somebody is kind enough to read the documentation
[06:32] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: he was suggesting you to read the docs of the app so you can troubleshoot yourself
[06:32] <bradley> hey,
[06:32] <Dangermike> J-Unit, here at least they have their own support channels
[06:32] <bradley> i have one more question
[06:32] <bradley> well maybe more
[06:32] <Dangermike> !ask > bradley
[06:33] <bradley> ok, so my computer will start to download the A
[06:33] <bradley> ATI drivers but wont install them
[06:33] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: the initial exe file shouldn't be there anymore, i made you rename it
[06:34] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: it didn't need the .exe extension. that's a windows thing
[06:34] <Dangermike> J-Unit, also that file should probably only be used to (re)install
[06:34] <caem> alo...
[06:34] <bullgard4> man lspnp: "list Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources." What are 'Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources'?
[06:34] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, ok so its the same thing without the .exe? and thats wat i right click on?
[06:35] <bradley> i need some help getting some drivers installed stiil
[06:35] <Dangermike> bradley, nobody can help you unless you provide more information about what is happening. error messages, output etc are needed to troubleshoot
[06:35] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: lemme double check that, i just run the app myself
[06:36] <vocx> bullgard4, I guess those things like USB controllers, to which you attach devices.
[06:36] <bradley> um, i go to restricted drivers
[06:36] <bradley> click on the ATI drivers and it starts to download but never finishes
[06:37] <Dangermike> !punctuation | bradley
[06:37] <ubotu> bradley: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:37] <Dangermike> bradley, whats the error
[06:37] <biabia> can anyone recommend a good/decent/fair fserve script for xchat?    I tried tuxserv but it seems buggy and hasnt been updated it like 3-4 yrs
[06:37] <vocx> Dangermike, haha, the !enter factoid is shorter to type.
[06:37] <bradley> i dont know, it just kind of sits there
[06:37] <Dangermike> bradley, can you ping out whilst its downloading?
[06:38] <Dangermike> vocx, heh yeah had to priv message to make sure it existed ;P
[06:38] <Dangermike> ill remember next time
[06:38] <bradley> well, im talking on Xchat so i assume somethings getting out
[06:39] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: my program seems to freeze at: [06:38:51] Completed 0 out of 1500000 steps  (0%)
[06:39] <eatatjoes2> does anyone know if there is a way for GRUB when it gives u 10 seconds to select an OS choice for it not to automatically boot into Ubuntu if u don't selet it after 10seconds, but instead have it boot into a different one?
[06:39] <bradley> i have been trying to get the 3d desktop effects working for the longest time
[06:39] <vocx> bradley, make sure you have activated all repositories, well, except those with sources or third party.
[06:39] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: i'm guessing you run that file again next time you want to use the app
[06:39] <leo_rockw> eatatjoes2: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <bradley> im going to restart my computer
[06:39] <bradley> brb
[06:40] <eatatjoes2> leo_rockw: thanks
[06:40] <Dangermike> !grub | eatatjoes2
[06:40] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:40] <Dangermike> eatatjoes2, may wanna check the groubhowto
[06:40] <Dangermike> grubhowto*
[06:40] <vocx> eatatjoes2, there is the "default" option. Change it from "0" to something like "3" depending on your list.
[06:41] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, its so much better on ubuntu compared to xp!
[06:41] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: mine just froze there
[06:41] <eatatjoes2> vocx: do that in edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:41] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, wats ur processor?
[06:41] <vocx> eatatjoes2, yes
[06:41] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: core duo
[06:41] <eatatjoes2> okay thanks
[06:42] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, im jealous :(
[06:42] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: maybe i need to open a port or smth
[06:42] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, but im geting a core 2 quad wit 4 gb of ram and a 8800 gt in like 4 months ;)
[06:42] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: i worked really hard for this lappy!
[06:42] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, now i'm jealous
[06:42] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, o i thot it was desktop
[06:43] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, my laptop was like garbage and i fixed it and it cost me 100$ (pentium 3 850 mhz)
[06:43] <deeproot> i changed a option in the automount program for a flash drive and now it will not mount automatcally, where can i erase the changes i made
[06:43] <Nith> booya, success
[06:43] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: well, let's not add more noise to the channel
[06:43] <nickrud> deeproot: what change did you make?
[06:43] <deeproot> i put rw in the mount options
[06:43] <leo_rockw> deeproot: /etc/fstab
[06:43] <toru> hi all
[06:43] <deeproot> i think i should've put -o rw
[06:43] <toru> .
[06:43] <leo_rockw> hi toru
[06:43] <Nith> toru: Hello
[06:44] <nickrud> deeproot: where did you put that rw?
[06:44] <toru> i was wondering if someone can help me with a syslog situation
[06:44] <deeproot> these dont show up in fstab they the automount ones that show up on your desktop and put a dir into the media dir
[06:44] <nickrud> deeproot: one last time: where did you make the change?
[06:44] <deeproot> i right clicked on the drive and put rw in the mount options
[06:44] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, k, so thx alot and im gona go work on my arms then im gona go to bed
[06:44] <toru> I have a ubuntu server with syslog enabled and other systems are able to remotely stream logs to  it. I now want to segregate logs from each system
[06:44] <l815> hi :)
[06:45] <sap1> Hi, Just wanted to know if there is a "post-it" or "sticky notes"  type program for ubuntu/linux  ?
[06:45] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: ok, have a goodnight
[06:45] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, so ya by and goodnight to u 2 (if u r on my timezone)
[06:45] <toru> sap1, check out desklets
[06:45] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: it's 4:45am here
[06:45] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, u dint sleep yet??
[06:45] <toru> tomboy notes aren't bad either, though they aren't sticky notes :)
[06:45] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install gyach i386 on my 64 bit system  I have every thing ,but  one library so I system linked it where the program looks ,but it says it 64 bit  lib .  How do I get the 32 bit version of the lib ?
[06:45] <Dangermike> sap1, have you checked out tomboy notes
[06:45] <leo_rockw> sap1: there's knotes for kde
[06:45] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, here its 1 45 am
[06:45] <l815> tomboy notes are great
[06:45] <deeproot> i can still manually mount the device usin the term
[06:45] <nickrud> deeproot: gconf-editor /system/storage/volumes , you'll see some _org_freedesktop* folders, one of those will be the usb flash., remove the option
[06:46] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: i have jetlag, i was in 1:45 a couple of days ago
[06:46] <fraser> i just installed the latest version of ubuntu. should it come with WLAN capability out of the box?
[06:46] <sap1> hmm.. wow lots of choice, so which one is the recommended ?
[06:46] <deeproot> nice, thank you
[06:46] <leo_rockw> sap1: not knotes, unless you have kde
[06:46] <Dangermike> sap1, you'll probably need to try a few out to see which works best for your needs
[06:46] <J-Unit> leo_rockw, k, anyway bye and thx again
[06:46] <leo_rockw> J-Unit: yup, np, gnite
[06:46] <amenado> fraser yes, but it depends on your wifi card..some works right away some dont
[06:46] <vocx> tarelerulz, maybe you get the source and compile it yourself.
[06:46] <toru> so is there anyway to isolate streams of syslog coming to a syslog server to different files?
[06:46] <l815> is there a linux game channel?
[06:46] <sap1> k ty , i have gnome , so i guess i'll try tomboy or desklets
[06:47] <fraser> amenado, i have a toshiba laptop with an atheros wirelass card. where can i find out if this is supported?
[06:47] <deeproot> thats a nice tip,  Thank You nickrud
[06:47] <Dangermike> sap1, tomboy should already be installed
[06:47] <sparr_> how can i make a particular repository the top priority for the packages that it provides?
[06:47] <sap1> k
[06:47] <Dangermike> !madwifi | fraser
[06:47] <ubotu> fraser: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:47] <Dangermike> fraser you need the restricted modules installed
[06:47] <leo_rockw> l815: idk, but that's a good idea
[06:47] <nickrud> deeproot: gconf-editor is a nice tool, it exposes a lot of internal settings as well as nearly all the gnome app preferences, even the hidden ones
[06:47] <amenado> fraser-> i believe that is supported, check your /lib/firmware/`uname -r`  and should see the athxxx
[06:47] <crxyem> so anyone here have offer any help on wireless in 7.04
[06:48] <toru> I have 7.10 wireless
[06:48] <deeproot> i've never heard of it before but its looking awesome
[06:48] <icesword> 7.04
[06:48] <vocx> fraser, I would also suggest you to check ubuntuforums.org for your laptop, and read the comments from people with laptops similar to yours.
[06:48] <Dangermike> !info madwifi-tools > fraser
[06:48] <sap1> Umm.. anotehr bigger prob is that: My x-sane runs only as a root with my hp-PSC 1510 ? any ideas/suggestions?
[06:48] <l815> leo_rockw, i'm not a big gamer, but the way linux works has brought my interest back into mmo's :D
[06:48] <tarelerulz> vocx , I did source compile and I get some wine error .  would it help if you saw the error ?
[06:48] <nickrud> sparr_: you need to define your need a little better
[06:48] <toru> syslog anyone?
[06:48] <leo_rockw> l815: there's regnum online in 3d, the mana world in 2d
[06:48] <toru> is there anyway to isolate streams of syslog coming to a syslog server to different files?
[06:48] <nickrud> toru: you might want to look at some replacement syslogs, like syslog-ng
[06:49] <macogw> nickrud: insert oblig reference to linus, gnome, and hidden features
[06:49] <friedtofu> sap1 - add yourself to the scanner group
[06:49] <toru> so then should I assume syslog can't do that? eh nickrud?
[06:49] <vocx> tarelerulz, I'm confused. You downloaded a 32-bit Windows program for your 64-bit system, and now you want to run it with wine?
[06:49] <fraser> Dangermike, amenado, thanks
[06:49] <leo_rockw> l815: altho i believe regnum online doesn't have a big community of english speakers (i speak spanish)
[06:49] <macogw> toru: syslog-ng is the newer nicer syslog
[06:49] <l815> leo_rockw, i tried it, but i keep running into problems
[06:49] <nickrud> macogw: I plead the fifth
[06:49] <sparr_> nickrud: i have added third party repositories that provide newer versions of packages that the ubuntu repositories provide.  apt-cache policy tells me that the ubunto repos have priority 990, while my new repository is priority 500.  how can i get the packages from the new repo?
[06:49] <nickrud> toru: not simply
[06:49] <l815> leo_rockw, i speak portuguese :D
[06:49] <sap1> friedtofu: umm.. i think i tried that but it didnt help (i hope i tried it the corrrect way :) )
[06:49] <macogw> toru: Syslog: the Next Generation :P
[06:49] <toru> I know about syslog-ng but I wanted to make sure before switching over that syslog can't do this
[06:50] <Li-Plus> how do i use emerald theme manager for my window bars
[06:50] <friedtofu> sap1 can you go in terminal and type in "groups" just to be sure?
[06:50] <macogw> Li-Plus: have to be using compiz
[06:50] <leo_rockw> l815: i don't know of any other mmo
[06:50] <nickrud> sparhawk__: the packages should have higher version numbers, if they do they will be preferred. You can investigate apt pinning , it's a black art for wizards
[06:50] <tarelerulz> vocx, Gyachi  yahoo linux client use wine for the voice chat on yahoo and  when I compile it I run into any error .
[06:50] <l815> leo_rockw, i'll try reinstalling
[06:50] <zdux00tv_> hi I'd like some advice setting up a dual boot OS. I already have 1 linux distro installed gOS, and Id like to set ubuntu as the second
[06:51] <Li-Plus> macogw: i am using compiz but it says there aren't any themes in emerald
[06:51] <leo_rockw> l815: but regnum did give me some problems before ATI worked on their drivers
[06:51] <Dangermike> !dual-boot > zdux00tv_
[06:51] <nickrud> sparhawk__: sorry, sparr_ that last was for you
[06:51] <macogw> Li-Plus: note that emerald is sort of a hack with a tendency to crash in general (i have to restart emerald a few times a day) and to slow down nvidia in particular
[06:51] <macogw> Li-Plus: you have to add themes to the theme manager
[06:51] <l815> leo_rockw, unfortuneatly i have intel graphics T-T
[06:51] <sap1> friedtofu: ya the user is in the group "scanner"
[06:51] <foo> hmm, I'm printing in firefox and it's printing with weird margins and the text is small. Any ideas?
[06:51] <macogw> l815: intel?
[06:51] <toru> sparr_, add the new repository link in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:51] <m0u5e> intel rocks with compiz
[06:51] <sparr_> nickrud: they do have higher version numbers.  but they are not from a target release (read: ubuntu), and thus they get a 500 priority instead of 990
[06:51] <macogw> m0u5e: verily
[06:51] <m0u5e> as long as its not too lold xD
[06:51] <leo_rockw> l815: check out the regnum forums, they might be able to help you out
[06:51] <sparr_> toru: i am beyond that step
[06:51] <friedtofu> hm. i really cant find the reason - my scanner wasnt working in the first place - - hplip installed and root can see it?
[06:52] <vocx> tarelerulz, well, that's even more complicated. I'm sorry I'm no help. Besides, I'm off.
[06:52] <l815> leo_rockw, i was just heading over there, thanks :)
[06:52] <fraser> Dangermike, amenado. i know my chipset, how do i find out my vendor?
[06:52] <deeproot> nickrud: the device is a vfat sdcard how can i get it to mount rw, i just tried -o rw and it gave same error
[06:52] <shinas_> clear
[06:52] <toru> sparr_, then what is the problem? where are you stuck
[06:52] <Nith> wallpaper-tray, gdesklets and awn are a good combination
[06:52] <sparr_> nickrud: i am above-averagely versed in pinning already, but this bit evades me
[06:52] <macogw> m0u5e: my mum's 855 works fine with compiz...except for the fact that the chip is nearly dead and occasionally stops talking to the monitor
[06:52] <m0u5e> macogw: :(
[06:52] <nickrud> sparr_: and you're telling me that apt-get upgrade doesn't upgrade to the new one? That's very odd
[06:52] <amenado> fraser  lshw  or lspci maybe even dmesg
[06:52] <shinas_> how video chat is possible?
[06:52] <friedtofu> sap1: if root can see it, and you're a user under scanner group - try restarting your computer and test it again
[06:52] <toru> sparr_, all you have to do after that is something like "aptitude update" and this will update list of files available in that new link you added
[06:52] <sparr_> toru: the packages wont install because the ones from the ubuntu repo have priority 990 while the ones from the new repo are priority 500
[06:52] <Li-Plus> macogw: ok how do i know if it's using an emerald theme or a gtk one
[06:52] <m0u5e> macogw: i have a 845, and it works pretty smoothly except for the occassional hiccup
[06:52] <sparr_> nickrud: not odd, as-designed.
[06:52] <macogw> shinas_: ekiga or wengophone can talk to Windows Live Messenger
[06:53] <sap1> friedtofu: and my "stupid" hp printer-scanner always wants to print a test page whenever it is started
[06:53] <macogw> shinas_: Kopete for yahoo or MSN
[06:53] <macogw> shinas_: aMSN also works for MSN
[06:53] <tarelerulz> vocx: Well, that is cool I just thought you might know the right dicrection to point me into. That is ally I wanted .  Have a good on man
[06:53] <foo> !ops Thanatos is spamming on join
[06:53] <m0u5e> mm anyone know how to fix the mplayer file URL bug for mplayer_rc2?
[06:53] <shinas_> thank you i will try that
[06:53] <macogw> Li-Plus: run "emerald --replace" to run emerald
[06:53] <arang2> anyone could give me an option for pyneighborhood?  i need something like that (no nautilus pls i need real mounting)
[06:53] <sap1> friedtofu: ya i tried restarting when i did all that
[06:53] <Dangermike> fraser, glxinfo | grep vendor
[06:53] <m0u5e> and does anyone know where gnome stores its list of file assocation extensions
[06:53] <nickrud> sparr_: do you have a preferred release set in apt.conf ?
[06:53] <tarelerulz> How do you tell apt-get to get a 32 bit lib ?
[06:54] <macogw> m0u5e: its not gnome. its in etc
[06:54] <toru> sparr_, then temporarily comment out the ubuntu sources and then try it
[06:54] <zdux00tv_> for a dual boot linux/linux should I partition the hard drive before the live CD? Where should I set the mount point?
[06:54] <m0u5e> macogw: oh, do you know where/
[06:54] <friedtofu> hm. well - i really have no clue then :/ it works for my psc 2350... good luck on trying to get it to work
[06:54] <macogw> m0u5e: /etc/mime.types
[06:54] <m0u5e> ah thx
[06:54] <Li-Plus> macogw: how do i make it so it uses it from startup
[06:54] <macogw> Li-Plus: speak of the devil, eemerald just died....
[06:54] <owen1> what ftp server is recommended?
[06:54] <macogw> Li-Plus: do you have compizconfig-settings manager
[06:54] <Li-Plus> macogw: what card is it?
[06:54] <bradley> ok, i managed to get my graphics card driver installed, but how do i activate the Berly/Compiz Fusion stuff
[06:54] <Dangermike> owen1, ssh ftw
[06:54] <Li-Plus> macogw: yes i do
[06:54] <macogw> Li-Plus: i have intel 945
[06:54] <sparr_> nickrud: yes
[06:54] <toru> so then should I assume syslog can't store streams coming in from seperate servers to seperate files? I should switch over to syslog-ng for that?
[06:54] <sparr_> toru: no
[06:54] <owen1> Dangermike: cool. thanks
[06:55] <Li-Plus> macogw: intel sucks i just escaped my 855 by buying this new computer with both ati + nvidia graphics cards ^_^
[06:55] <sap1> friedtofu: the thing is that i have to start it from terminal by typing "sudo xsane". but if I only type "xsane" it says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[06:55] <macogw> Li-Plus: haha intel rocks for compiz
[06:55] <m0u5e> macogw: do you know where the associated list for mimetypes to programs are stored?
[06:55] <macogw> Li-Plus: and for linux in general
[06:55] <nickrud> sparr_: any particular reason for that?
[06:55] <macogw> Li-Plus: intel graphics never die on linux
[06:55] <owen1> Dangermike: what about vsftpd?
[06:55] <m0u5e> for example, like what programs are to be opened by default with mplayer
[06:55] <raju> Dangermike, your link is not helping me
[06:55] <macogw> m0u5e: no
[06:55] <toru> sparr_, you said no to my presumption about syslog?
[06:56] <sap1> friedtofu: anyway, it's ok . i'll keep on trying to find a solution :)
[06:56] <macogw> m0u5e: just right clickthe file and go to properties and you can set it
[06:56] <macogw> m0u5e: probably in gconf though. everything gnome is in there
[06:56] <sparr_> nickrud: not my doing
[06:56] <Dangermike> owen1, i would recommend not using ftp if you dont have to ssh is a better option in my opinion
[06:56] <m0u5e> because mplayer_rc2 can't open certain files by default, and i have to specify use of gmplayer
[06:56] <Nith> gnite
[06:56] <m0u5e> rather than the mplayer int he app list
[06:56] <friedtofu> sap1: try doing "sudo scanimage -L" and see what comes out
[06:56] <sparr_> toru: no, i said no to your "comment out the ubuntu repos" suggestion
[06:56] <toru> oh ok
[06:56] <m0u5e> macogw: okay i'll check gconf, thx
[06:56] <toru> sparr_, the commenting out also didn't work?
[06:56] <sparr_> toru: i rejected the idea
[06:56] <toru> oh :D
[06:57] <l815> what's the best looking/rendering font to use in linux?
[06:57] <macogw> Li-Plus: in ccsm, go to "window decoration" and tell it the command is "emerald --replace"
[06:57] <bradley> ok, i managed to get my graphics card driver installed, but how do i activate the Berly/Compiz Fusion stuff... when i go to turn it on it says "The Composite Extension is unavialble"
[06:57] <sap1> friedtofu: gives the error "sudo: scanimage: command not found"
[06:57] <leo_rockw> !best | l815
[06:57] <ubotu> l815: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[06:57] <nickrud> sparr_: it's not default. Try removing it
[06:57] <toru> anyway I guess there is on confirmation on my syslog query so I will try to switch over to syslog-ng
[06:57] <friedtofu> huh. strange - i thought that came with xsane. ah well
[06:57] <owen1> Dangermike: i want to get files from a windows laptop over a wifi.
[06:57] <l815> lol i should have seen that comin
[06:58] <owen1> Dangermike: can i do it with putty over ssh?
[06:58] <sap1> friedtofu: is that necessary to install for xsane to work. i mean like a dependency ?
[06:58] <sparr_> nickrud: its set to 7.10, which was the last release i dist-upgraded to
[06:58] <macogw> Li-Plus: the reason emerald dies all the time is simply because it's poorly coded.  the developer told me she needed to rewrite the whole thing because its a big messy hack.  the compiz team doesnt support it at all anymore and is in the process of deciding if they should replace it and with what
[06:58] <mandrig> bradley: Google is your best friend.
[06:58] <Dangermike> owen1, ssh will still work for this and it is more secure
[06:58] <Dangermike> !ssh | owen1
[06:58] <ubotu> owen1: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:58] <sparr_> nickrud: and removing it does not affect the policy problem
[06:58] <friedtofu> sap1: not really sure - not in ubuntu atm
[06:58] <sap1> ok
[06:58] <omar> Guys I have a problem with screenlets, it never starts
[06:58] <bradley> I require some assistance.... ok, i managed to get my graphics card driver installed, but how do i activate the Berly/Compiz Fusion stuff... when i go to turn it on it says "The Composite Extension is unavialble"
[06:59] <macogw> omar: do you have your screenlets set to autostart?
[06:59] <nickrud> sparr_: what file is it set in, I don't have a release pin anywhere that I see
[06:59] <sparr_> nickrud: it was in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[06:59] <owen1> Dangermike: i didn't know i can download files with ssh.
[06:59] <sparr_> nickrud: now it isnt, and i still have the priority problem
[06:59] <sparr_> nickrud: http://rafb.net/p/ctQP7134.html
[06:59] <Dangermike> owen1, yeah scp
[06:59] <omar> macogw: yes I tried to cancel that but it didn't work either
[06:59] <Li-Plus> macogw: yeah i'm running it on a robust 64amd with nvidia card atm
[06:59] <owen1> Dangermike: can i give ssh acess only to a specific folder?
[06:59] <nickrud> sparr_: strange, I don't even have an apt.conf , I've got the new apt.conf.d structure
[07:00] <sparr_> nickrud: I have ubuntu packages intentionally pinned to 995
[07:00] <Dangermike> owen1, you can set permissions to specific folders to limit access or create a jail for users this would better be described in the howto though
[07:00] <macogw> Li-Plus: that doesnt change emerald being an unstable piece of junk
[07:00] <macogw> Li-Plus: its nothing to do with the card
[07:00] <dsargeant> bradly, on my machine with an ati card, compiz works without the restricted driver but not with it.  Using the restricted driver I believe you have to use xgl to enable compositing.
[07:00] <owen1> Dangermike: great. thanks
[07:00] <Natal2008> boa noite
[07:01] <nickrud> sparr_: ah. Then it is your doing :) You'll have to specifiy version then, or pin the specific packages or origin for the git stuff.
[07:01] <omar> macogw: yes I tried to cancel that but it didn't work either
[07:01] <macogw> Li-Plus: except that one of my friends has a very nice nvidia card which my intel chip out-performs if he uses emerald
[07:01] <zdux00tv_> for a dual boot linux/linux should I partition the hard drive before booting the live CD? Where should I set the mount point?
[07:01] <macogw> omar: why would you cancel it if you want them to run?
[07:01] <sparr_> nickrud: how do i know the origin to pin?
[07:01] <fraser> a wireless network is not even available in my 'network-admin' dialog. why is this?
[07:01] <Dangermike> bradley, yeah i agree with dsargeant you need xserver-xgl and probably ccsm installed
[07:01] <macogw> fraser: because you dont use that
[07:01] <Li-Plus> macogw: i had an intel card ubuntu crashed alot when i used compiz
[07:01] <macogw> fraser: use network-manager
[07:01] <Li-Plus> macogw: so i had to use gentoo
[07:01] <macogw> Li-Plus: recently?
[07:01] <Natal2008> #ubuntu-br
[07:02] <omar> macogw: because I thought that was the problem.
[07:02] <Li-Plus> macogw: i still have the laptop it was just a few months ago
[07:02] <macogw> omar: you said you want it to start though
[07:02] <sparr_> nickrud: apt is poorly documented in this respect  :(
[07:02] <fraser> macogw, "network-manager: command not found"
[07:02] <Li-Plus> macogw: i settle for freebsd on that but my cd drive broke
[07:02] <omar> macogw: now can u please help me?
[07:02] <macogw> fraser: no no its the applet in the top right of your screen
[07:02] <Dangermike> Looking for help/advice with Firefox seg fault. This happened when i went to a embedded flash website http://speedtest.net , but it can also happen at random whilst looking through ubuntu forums, bugs.launchpad, and a few other sites that dont have flash. I believe libc.so.6 is to blame but can it be replaced? do i just delete and possibly reinstall, or can it even be reinstalled (redownloaded)?
[07:02] <Dangermike> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12513343/gdb-firefox.log
[07:02] <nickrud> sparr_: hopefully the repo has defined it, you'll see it at the head of the Release file for the repo in /var/lib/apt/lists
[07:02] <Dangermike> it happenes with every browser BTW
[07:02] <macogw> omar: can you execute the screenlet?
[07:02] <omar> macogw: Yes I do want it to start. :)
[07:03] <omar> macogw: Huh?
[07:03] <macogw> omar: you downloaded some screenlets right?
[07:03] <leo_rockw> well, gnite everyone. c u l8r
[07:03] <fraser> macogw, that opens the same thing as 'network-admin'
[07:03] <omar> macogw: Yes I did.
[07:03] <macogw> omar: well screenlets the package is just a thing to let you use screenlets. you have to add others
[07:03] <sap1> umm.. been wondering what's the difference between "terminal" and "terminal emulator" under applications>accessories ?
[07:03] <macogw> fraser: what?
[07:03] <fraser> macogw, and wireless is till not available
[07:03] <dsargeant> Dangermike: are you using 64 bit?
[07:03] <macogw> fraser: it should have a dropdown list of wireless networks
[07:03] <fraser> macogw, nope.
[07:03] <Dangermike> dsargeant, not at the moment
[07:03] <synth> I'm setting up LVM on Ubuntu Server, if I pick largefile or one of the other inode options, I should only have files that are megabytes+ right, I cant, say, mix in some normal files right?
[07:03] <Li-Plus> how do i create a simlink to /space
[07:03] <synth> they'd waste space right?
[07:04] <macogw> fraser: http://kirsten.urbanzone.com/blog/uploads/misc/ubuntu_network_manager.png
[07:04] <tarelerulz>  How would I install libgtkhtml-2  the 32 bit version ?
[07:04] <macogw> fraser: make sure in network-admin you're set to roaming. then you should see that if you left click the applet
[07:04] <Draco> macogw: some wifi cards don't play well with NetworkManager
[07:04] <Draco> fraser: ^
[07:04] <Dangermike> dsargeant, thinking about changing to gutsy X64 but running 32 now. i hate setting up 32 bit environments :\
[07:04] <omar> macogw: Yes but the management window of which I can add\remove screenlets never appears.
[07:04] <macogw> omar: its broken anyway
[07:04] <sparr_> nickrud: first, it doesnt seem to be defined.  second, the apt_preferences man page says that "Pin: origin ..." is unrelated to the package "Origin:"
[07:04] <synth> anyone do large file stuff on LVM?
[07:04] <fraser> macogw, i think draco is right, there's no option to enable roaming mode for wireless networks
[07:05] <sparr_> synth: define "large"
[07:05] <Draco> fraser: macogw: it seems like it wouldn't affect things, must be timing or something. on my Ralink NetworkManager never connects
[07:05] <synth> sparr_, have you optimized yor LV's for large files, ie the 'largefile' option in the Ubuntu server installer
[07:05] <macogw> fraser: in network-admin there should be a checkbox for roaming mode...unless you're using dapper or edgy?
[07:05] <omar> macogw: Yes that's what I'm saying, I tried to reinstall it many times but it didn't fix the problem.
[07:05] <macogw> omar: the gui thing to pick out screenlets is broken overall
[07:05] <fraser> macd, i only downloaded this distro 2 hours ago. it is the newest. i don't know what it's called
[07:05] <Draco> fraser: macogw: you must kill it and use iwlist/ifconfig/iwconfig, if it can't
[07:06] <macogw> omar: just copy and paste the screenlets you want into your ~/.screenlets
[07:06] <macogw> fraser: thats gutsy
[07:06] <dsargeant> Dangermike: I ask becauese I'm having an issue with flash on 64 bit, npviewer, the wrapper for 32 bit flash, crashes.  firefox isn't seg faulting though.
[07:06] <sap1> ty for the help , cya
[07:06] <bradley> hey, who was i talking to b4
[07:06] <omar> macogw: Can we fix the GUI?
[07:07] <bradley> did the backspace key thing
[07:07] <synth> I cant boot off of LVM right? I need a /boot that is ext3 for Ubuntu kernel to be happy I assume?
[07:07] <nickrud> sparr_: hm. I have at the top of Release for gutsy-partner (easiest to type) Origin: ubuntu
[07:07] <zdux00tv_> for a dual boot linux/linux: Where should I set the second mount point? Can they both use the same swap?
[07:07] <macogw> omar: umm if i wanted to do some programming i could....
[07:07] <synth> zdux00tv_, no they cant use the same swap, second mount point?
[07:07] <fraser> macogw, there is a checkbox for roaming mode on wired connections, but there is no mention AT ALL of wireless connections in network-admin
[07:07] <nickrud> sparr_: but it's been a long time since I did any pinning (experimental days) so I've suffered serious bit rot
[07:07] <amenado> zdux00tv_-> yes they can both use same, swap,  i have done it
[07:07] <macogw> fraser: is your wireless card even visible in network-admin?
[07:07] <synth> really amenado
[07:08] <fraser> macogw, no
[07:08] <synth> that's.. interesting :)
[07:08] <macogw> fraser: ok thats your first problem
[07:08] <amenado> synth affirmative
[07:08] <macogw> fraser: get that fixed first
[07:08] <Draco> synth: zdux00tv_: they CAN use the same swap
[07:08] <Draco> synth: zdux00tv_: UNLESS you want to have hibernate to disk
[07:08] <fraser> macogw, okay. how?
[07:08] <omar> macogw: OMG you're saying that we're gonna be playing with the source code??
[07:08] <macogw> fraser: figure out what wireless card you have
[07:08] <sparr_> nickrud: im looking at /var/lib/apt/lists/download.tuxfamily.org_shames_debian-sid_desktopfx_unstable_._Release
[07:08] <fraser> macogw, toshiba atheros
[07:08] <Draco> synth: yeah assuming only one is booted at the same time, swap should never maintain itself (since it's supposed to be a backup incase of ram getting low)
[07:08] <synth> Draco, Windows can use a partition instead of a file?
[07:09] <synth> Draco, yeah
[07:09] <Draco> synth: well this was dual boot linux/linux
[07:09] <macogw> fraser: i thought those worked all magic-like... umm ok now's when you go "hey i need help getting an atheros wireless card to work!" and wait for people with experience with that chipset to help
[07:09] <Draco> synth: windows can use a partition, and linux can use a file :P
[07:09] <zdux00tv_> synth, Draco, amenado: I just want to make sure the new OS works then I would reformat to having just Ubuntu
[07:09] <fraser> macogw, thanks heaps. will do
[07:09] <macogw> omar: im not so hot on python, but i guess i could give it a shot...
[07:09] <synth> Draco, I just saw the file swap thing earlier, made me happy, I can put it on top of LVM
[07:09] <amenado> zdux00tv_-> you can always add swap spaces
[07:10] <synth> Draco, rather than try to distribute my swap amongst disks for speed, and then get memory corruption when I have a disk fail
[07:10] <fraser> Hi everyone, i recently installed ubuntu and my wireless card (Atheros) in my toshiba laptop does not appear in 'network-admin'. how do i install it?
[07:10] <Draco> synth: err, if a disk fails you probably have bigger problems
[07:10] <synth> zdux00tv_, if its 1 hd, then each has its own partition
[07:10] <Darkmystere> fraser, Whats your card?
[07:10] <synth> Draco, it's raid10... :D
[07:10] <zdux00tv_> what about the mount point? the 1 and only drive has swap and ext mounted to "/", I want to split the ext into 2, what should the new mount point be?
[07:10] <Dangermike> !info linux-restricted-modules > fraser
[07:11] <fraser> Darkmystere, all i know is that it's in a toshiba laptop and it's an atheros card
[07:11] <omar> macogw: By the way, when I first installed it, it worked like a charm, but suddenly it just stopped working.
[07:11] <Darkmystere> fraser, lspci -v
[07:11] <amenado> fraser-> if you just ifup wlan0  do you get an ip address assigned?  iwconfig  to check it
[07:11] <Darkmystere> fraser, i have a Toshiba too with an atheros card.
[07:11] <karllenz> is there a network bridging gui?
[07:11] <Draco> synth: yikes. have failures a lot?
[07:11] <synth> Draco, but if a disk failed, in raid, I dont want it taking swap w/it
[07:11] <synth> Draco, oh yes 3 WD 500's in 1 month
[07:11] <Darkmystere> Draco, Network-manager or Wicd
[07:11] <synth> Draco, I think a bad batch but still scared me straight
[07:12] <zdux00tv_> synth, Draco, amenado: it's a new laptop, and I don't like the distro it came with (gOS)
[07:12] <synth> Draco, I manage servers for a living.. boxes with 64 gigs of ram...
[07:12] <macogw> omar: odd... i never had it work. i could launch screenlets from it, but not do autostart or install any new ones. it says they've done some updates since then though
[07:12] <fraser> Darkmystere, no i do not, it says like 'failed to open statefile'
[07:12] <sparr_> nickrud: oooh, heres a great one...  im trying to "Pin: version 0.6.99*" and i get this: W: Did not understand pin type version
[07:12] <synth> Draco, RAID5 on md is stupid for the math, and concurrent writes on RAID10 plus DP = WIN
[07:12] <Draco> synth: wow, amazing. And it -still- has to swap?
[07:12] <synth> er RAID10
[07:12] <fraser> Darkmystere, apparently no wireless extensions ecist
[07:12] <AudioMall> hi guys help me how do i start the UBUNtu without X Server i just need to instal the Nvdia Update driver
[07:12] <synth> Draco, no, this is my home machine :)
[07:12] <nickrud> hahahahha sparr_ bit rot exists besides my brain :)
[07:12] <Darkmystere> fraser, :/.... try iwconfig
[07:12] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, its ubuntu you can install a different windows manager if you dont like enlightenment, just install KDE or GNOME
[07:12] <synth> Sorry I did mean RAID5 at first in that statement
[07:13] <synth> I need coffeee.
[07:13] <fraser> Darkmystere, no wireless extensions
[07:13] <Darkmystere> fracer, also did you try enabling the driver in the restricted driver manager?
[07:13] <DanaG> Oh hey, I'm using hardy, and wanted to ask somebody on Gutsy to try something for me for comparison:  If you make a file that starts with a space (i.e. 'touch \ file_with_space'), and then try to 'less \ fi<tab>', what happens?
[07:13] <Draco> synth: from what I read using a file is less efficient, but efficiency is pretty much gone once you start using disk anyway
[07:13] <amenado> AudioMall-> how much do you really save by not going through a gui boot?
[07:13] <omar> macogw: Maybe I can find another screenlets package out there in the net that works.
[07:13] <slimjimflim> when i try to download a file from ubuntuforums i get a vbulletin error saying i don't have permission....can anyone help?
[07:13] <zdux00tv_> Dangermike: I don't  like anything about gOS, the application menu has lots of links to websites as if they were applications, I don't trust that google isn't tracking me on that os
[07:14] <cheesebob> Hi wifi adapter that isn't working, it looks like DHCP is failing, but that works on a windows box any ideas?
[07:14] <macogw> omar: there's a facebook screenlet (why i started using them) and lots of posts on its page going "i cant figure out how to install this. where's the Setup.exe?" hehe ^_^
[07:14] <Aurelis> try registering slimjimflim
[07:14] <synth> Draco, on my desk I manage just fine w/2 gigs but my next build will have 4, I have them right here
[07:14] <AudioMall> i dunno i'm a newbe on ubuntu
[07:14] <macogw> omar: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gilir/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screenlets/
[07:14] <slimjimflim> aurelis i am and logged in
[07:14] <Draco> DanaG: opens the blank file
[07:14] <Darkmystere> amenado, its not really noticable matter fact my computer boots slow as h*** when i do non GUI boot..
[07:14] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, its not a google os -_-'
[07:14] <Aurelis> nasty o_o
[07:14] <Aurelis> in that case, dunno :D
[07:14] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, it stands for GreenOS
[07:14] <zdux00tv_> DangerMike: also the menus strech past the width of the screen 800x480
[07:14] <AudioMall> amenado i dunno i'm a newbe on ubuntu
[07:14] <omar> macogw: Yes I used that screenlet too! It's great! :)
[07:14] <AudioMall> amenado: i dunno i'm a newbe on ubuntu
[07:14] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, that is all fixed with a different windows manager
[07:14] <Darkmystere> amenado, but when i use the Bootsplash it takes like 1 1/2 mins
[07:14] <synth> hey guys does that JeOS work well on real hardware too?
[07:14] <zulerdongledf> hello there, i wanted to know if basically all ports are open in ubuntu so my computer is accessible from the outside? thanks
[07:14] <Darkmystere> amenado, instead of 15..
[07:15] <amenado> AudioMall-> so dont worry about it, go full gui boot then install what ever you need
[07:15] <DanaG> On mine, I get this:  less \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (and it goes on and on.)  Thanks, now I know that it IS a Hardy issue, so I can ask about it in #ubuntu+1 and know that it doesn't happen in Gutsy.
[07:15] <omar> macogw: And this is when I started loving them. :)
[07:15] <slimjimflim> aurelis, can you try the link?
[07:15] <Aurelis> zulerdongledf, should be, im not aware of any firewalling in ubuntu
[07:15] <Draco> amenado: Someone said gui boot was actually faster
[07:15] <zdux00tv_> Dangermike: I know, but it's just that I'm overly paranoid, WTC7 thermate and all that mess
[07:15] <slimjimflim> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=56271&d=1200224356
[07:15] <zulerdongledf> aurelis thanks
[07:15] <macogw> omar: someone asked "can i install this on a MacBook?" and i said "Yes, as long as the MacBook is running Linux"
[07:15] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, lol well if you download gutsy heres your md5's http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS
[07:15] <fraser> Darkmystere, google indicates i may have to install ndiswrapper. does this sound correct?
[07:15] <amenado> Draco-> i just go to init level 1 if i do not need X
[07:15] <AudioMall> amenado: but i got the error when i'm updating the Nvdia Grapichs Driver --- close the X Server
[07:15] <synth> ndiswrapper noooooooo
[07:15] <Draco> macogw: omar: run what?
[07:16] <fraser> Darkmystere, is it also reelvant to mention i am using amd64 architecture?
[07:16]  * synth runs crying
[07:16] <Aurelis> slimjimflim, doesnt work for me either, though my account is pretty ancient, dunno if that changes things :)
[07:16] <macogw> Draco: a facebook screenlet
[07:16]  * Dangermike holds synth in fetal position 
[07:16] <amenado> AudioMall-> then  sudo telinit 1  to bring you down to init level 1
[07:16] <synth> tainted.. kernel.... want mommy...
[07:16] <Dangermike> lol
[07:16] <macogw> Draco: the screenlets preferences thing is broken for him and i recall it being horribly borked, so we're going to go bug-hunting and attempt to apply nearly-non-existent python skills to the problem
[07:16] <zdux00tv_> Dangermike: I'll be checking the MD5, I stopped windows when I found out about the Random Number generator backdoor, also google has admitted to helping homeland "security"
[07:17] <omar> macogw: Hmm?
[07:17] <zulerdongledf> aurelis well when i check ports with canyouseeme.org it says the connection is refused on every port i try
[07:17] <Darkmystere> fraser, correct if your card isnt supported but it surpises me that your card isnt supported i have a Toshiba A105 with an atheros card supported...by default...usualy Atheros is always supported by  linux, Also could you pastebin your lspci -v?
[07:17] <synth> random number generator... back.. door?
[07:17] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, look up advapi.dll rofl its a backdoor for the NSA found at a security conference
[07:17] <bradley> Ubuntu, just tells me that "desktop effects" cannout be started
[07:17] <synth> saywhat?
[07:17] <DanaG> New Atheros AR500 cards don't have Linux support right now.
[07:17] <Dangermike> zdux00tv_, that dll is a sys dll used with notepad, IE etc.
[07:17] <Dangermike> anways away for fooood
[07:17] <synth> DanaG, hopefully soon considering how well the rest is
[07:17] <Darkmystere> !pastebin | fraser
[07:17] <ubotu> fraser: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[07:17] <zdux00tv_> I'm running out of tin foil overhere
[07:18] <synth> what bot is ubotu?
[07:18] <synth> ubotu, version
[07:18] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[07:18] <bradley>  Ubuntu, just tells me that "desktop effects" cannout be enabled <--- can i get some help with this
[07:18] <AudioMall> amenado:that's all buddy ? how bout if i got error again
[07:18] <Starnestommy> synth: I think it's a supybot with a factoid plugin
[07:18] <bradley>  Ubuntu, just tells me that "desktop effects" cannout be enabled <--- can i get some help with this????
[07:18] <macogw> bradley: video card model, current driver in use, and output of "glxinfo | grep direct" will be needed to diagnose the problem
[07:18] <zdux00tv_> synth, <off topic> start with wtc7, then look into MIT's study of forensic evidence of thermate</off topic>
[07:18] <synth> Starnestommy, ahh my friend ran a supy in our channel
[07:19] <macogw> omar: k i just installed the screenlets deb
[07:19] <MrEgg964> Hi all. I have a separate /home partition. If I want to re-install Ubuntu from scratch, how do I preserve my existing /home ? Tia.
[07:19] <fraser> Darkmystere, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58847/
[07:19] <macogw> omar: did you grab the one from that PPA? thats the most up to date one
[07:19] <synth> zdux00tv_, please, I can debunk any 9/11 conspiracy shit you can throw at me
[07:19] <amenado> AudioMall-> init level 1 is without X
[07:19] <bradley> Ati Mobilty Radeon 1400, and i dont know how to do the second 2
[07:19] <synth> zdux00tv_, </off topic> :)
[07:19] <synth> pardon my french btw.
[07:19] <Dangermike> !language | synth
[07:19] <ubotu> synth: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:19] <Dangermike> rofl im out
[07:19] <synth> yeah sorry Mike :D
[07:19] <amenado> MrEgg964-> just do not repartition or touch that /home  when installing
[07:20] <DanaG> "Debunking Loose Change"  -- google it, rather than asking here.
[07:20] <Draco> macogw: if it's just a bad Ubuntu package you can just recompile
[07:20] <bradley> macogw  Ati Mobilty Radeon 1400, and i dont know how to do the second 2
[07:20] <DanaG> Oh, and about the /home thing: make sure to set it to mount but not format.
[07:20] <nittanylion> MrEgg964--> You're also going to have to edit your fstab on the re-install
[07:20]  * synth nods to DanaG.  The video debate is the most telling...
[07:20] <zdux00tv_> synth: I'm using a text based irc so I can't pm you or receive pm. Debunk this: http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf
[07:20] <Draco> macogw: of course it wouldn't be surprising, both gnome and kde's fancy stuff is seriously buggy
[07:20] <Darkmystere> fraser, Err your card is deffinantly supported i have the same exact card...
[07:20] <macogw> Draco: bradley well the third is "copy and paste this command into the terminal and see what comes out"
[07:20] <AudioMall> amenado: thx buddy
[07:21] <macogw> Draco: its an immature project
[07:21] <bradley> ok
[07:21] <amenado> AudioMall-> you're welcome
[07:21] <MrEgg964> amenado: you mean, not declaring a separate /home at all during new install ?
[07:21] <amenado> MrEgg964-> affirmative
[07:21] <macogw> Draco: the version number is 0.12 in hardy's repo and 0.13 is the project's most recent release
[07:21] <DanaG> WTC is OFF TOPIC.  Plus, politics is one of those things you just don't talk about when trying to make conversation, because it can get people very angry.
[07:21] <Draco> macogw: yeah, I'd rather use something that actually halfway works
[07:21] <fraser> Darkmystere, hey i'm probably just making a retarded mistake. did it literally work out of the box because i am really inexperienced
[07:21] <amenado> MrEgg964-> actually you just want to mount it not format and repartion the old /home
[07:21] <macogw> Draco: the preferences thing is crap, but the screenlets themselves work well...unlike gdesklets
[07:21]  * synth nods to DanaG, tahts why I havent said anything else
[07:22] <Darkmystere> fraser, litterly i could pop the live cd in and have internet..
[07:22] <bradley> macogw it says yes
[07:22] <Darkmystere> fraser, without messing with anything but Network manager to select my AP..
[07:22] <fraser> Darkmystere, okay awesome. well i have to restart to fix some graphics drivers, i'll br in ten seconds to speak again.
[07:22] <macogw> bradley: ok then try running "compiz --replace" from the command line
[07:22] <slimjimflim> aurelis, i think the staff took it down, ty
[07:22]  * synth gives DanaG an apple pie. you have a tough job
[07:23] <macogw> omar: did i lose you?
[07:23] <AudioMall> amenado: be back again tonite i'm rite here in my office i left my Desktop away from home time here (3:36PM Phils.) thx again
[07:23] <zdux00tv_> so where should I put the second mount point?
[07:23] <bradley> macogw the output is as follows: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[07:23] <bradley> No whitelisted driver found
[07:23] <bradley> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[07:23] <DanaG> Job?  Actually, I don't have any sort of official position in the chat room or the bug tracker or anything.
[07:24] <macogw> bradley: ooo right ati is stupid and needs xgl
[07:24] <synth> zdux00tv_, ok, one hard drive, and windows/ubuntu?
[07:24] <bradley> so what do i do?
[07:24] <macogw> omar: hey! the screenlets thing can now install the facebook screenlet instead of you doing it manually!
[07:24] <zdux00tv_> synth: it's linux/linux
[07:24] <synth> zdux00tv_, on two diff partitions?
[07:24] <bradley> macogw is there anything i can do?
[07:24] <zdux00tv_> synth: yes 1 hard drive currently with swap and ext
[07:24] <MrEgg964> amenado: absolutely ; so do I then edit fstab in rescue mode ?
[07:24] <Aurelis> ya know.. i do like ubuntu.. i really do.. but xandros + eeepc is pretty wicked
[07:24] <macogw> bradley: i cant suggest my usual course of action: avoid ati. others here know ati better than i do
[07:24] <synth> zdux00tv_, ok so you wanna dual boot?
[07:24] <nittanylion> @bradley: have you installed any sort of 3rd party drivers for your ati card?
[07:25] <macogw> Aurelis: except its vpnc is broken :(
[07:25] <ere4si> sudo synaptic in a terminal will let me d/load stuff - sudo synaptic from a launcher won't - says starting without admin privileges?
[07:25] <zdux00tv_> synth: yes, to try out the hardware over time then fully switch to ubuntu
[07:25] <DanaG> !gksudo
[07:25] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[07:25] <Draco> macogw: bradley: avoid ati, nvidia, and intel
[07:25] <synth> Aurelis, I cant wait to get my hands on an Eee but I have so many laptops ALREADY
[07:25] <bradley> nittanylion: no just the standard driver
[07:25] <macogw> ere4si: gksudo synaptic
[07:25] <macogw> Draco: haha what do you suggest then?
[07:25] <macogw> Draco: i quite love my intel graphics
[07:25] <bradley> Draco: i like nvidia... but if not any of those than what... Nvidia is fastest now
[07:25] <macogw> Draco: the dapper blackout had no effect :)
[07:25] <dsargeant> bradley: in command line run: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[07:25] <synth> zdux00tv_, ok, so edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (back it up first) and duplicate your entries for each partition
[07:25] <ere4si> macogw, still get the same response
[07:25] <amenado> MrEgg964-> why do you even go to rescue mode? near the end of install before it asked you to  reboot, you can modify it right there and then
[07:26] <omar> macogw: Which one is the most up-to-date one?
[07:26] <nittanylion> bradley: you do not need xgl if you run the latest fglrx drivers
[07:26] <macogw> omar: 0.13 choose the gutsy one
[07:26] <synth> zdux00tv_, but look in each linux installs' partition to confirm that the kernel you are booting and all the files it wants w/it are there
[07:26] <ere4si> macogw, tried gksu as well
[07:26] <sparr_> has anyone ever considered the apt is a sort of web spider?  and it doesnt obey robots.txt
[07:26] <macogw> omar: did you get the link?
[07:26] <macogw> ere4si: do you not have sudo rights?
[07:26] <macogw> sparr_: how?
[07:26] <bradley> nittanylion, how do i do that
[07:26] <synth> zdux00tv_, basically just compare that files config (the real files it references in it) to the other OS's install and change names where necessary
[07:26] <macogw> sparr_: its only able to go to apt repositories...
[07:27] <sparr_> macogw: which are usually web sites
[07:27] <nittanylion> bradley: ATI cards are closed-source and hard to integrade with Ubuntu (and linux in general) .. ATI has been (slowly) developing drivers for linux, and with a little patience it'll work
[07:27]  * DanaG wonders how ATI will be by June.
[07:27] <ere4si> macogw, yep - that's why it works in a terminal
[07:27] <amenado> how to fix this during boot of a liveCD iso from a harddisk? EXT3-fs: mounted file system with ordered data mode
[07:27] <amenado> kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[07:27] <macogw> sparr_: ok... why would you have a robots.txt that says "no apt!" in an apt repo?
[07:27] <synth> DanaG, lets hope they can get some business from Linux now that the specs are out
[07:27] <bradley> nittanylion: so wait... no work around known?
[07:27] <nittanylion> Bradley: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.3_Driver_Manually
[07:28] <macogw> omar: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gilir/ubuntu/pool/main/s/screenlets/screenlets_0.0.13~bzr182-gutsy1-1_all.deb
[07:28] <synth> Im tired of nvidia cards they break quick
[07:28] <macogw> omar: install that one
[07:28] <DanaG> I know I'd like to support them, as long as I won't be getting any significant downgrade in terms of stability from my current nvidia.
[07:28] <zdux00tv_> synth: ok, thanks
[07:28] <Dangermike> !info xserver-xgl > bradley
[07:28] <sparr_> macogw: thats a very good question.  but i just found one that says "no anything!"
[07:28] <synth> DanaG, same here.. their drivers seem more mature these days
[07:28] <zdux00tv_> synth: it looks more complicated than I though
[07:28] <DanaG> I used to get this bug all the time with my nvidia    *blink*    *blink*                     *twitch*                           *flicker*
[07:28] <synth> zdux00tv_, its very manual but I think if you read the file it is self explanatory
[07:28] <macogw> sparr_: O_o
[07:28] <synth> DanaG, every now and then I got that, I have a 2 head display
[07:28] <synth> one monitor would go out
[07:28] <amenado> synth-> just curious, of the many laptops you got, they all use same root passwords?
[07:29] <zdux00tv_> synth: thanks a bunch
[07:29] <Shaffox> I've just deleted a file, how can I get it back?
[07:29] <synth> come back, and the screen has a 1 inch black bar on the top
[07:29] <Dangermike> Shaffox, check the trash
[07:29] <nickrud> Shaffox: if you used rm , you won't
[07:29] <Dangermike> hopefull you didnt rm -rf
[07:29] <MICHAELKYLE> hi i have a problem with xorg, ive tried every single configuration in xorg.conf and nothing seems to work, i have an BenQ V551 monitor that supports 1024x768 at 65Hz, the thing is that xorg seems to not allow my monitor to show it, cause i even put 1024x768 as the only resolution available in xorg.conf, and still i cant set it on the screen, it just keeps 800x600, but my monitor does support 1024x768 and yes im setting it to the right Frequency (60Hz),
[07:29] <MICHAELKYLE>  and i had debian before xubuntu and in debian i do had 1024 as my dsktop resolution, but now i cnt on xubuntu, is xubuntu using a different version of xorg? or its something else i need to modify. help pls
[07:29] <synth> amenado, hahaha I have probably 6, I use 1, and no not a one has the same password for root
[07:29] <icesword> hmmm,rm -rf /
[07:29] <Shaffox> Dangermike, how can I check the trash?
[07:30] <DanaG> DON'T TELL PEOPLE TO RM ROOT!
[07:30] <Draco> DanaG: *ALL* the time, and triangles randomly flashing through OpenGL windows
[07:30] <synth> amenado, some still have Windows as I have yet to integrate them into my environment :)
[07:30] <synth> amenado, some I should sell
[07:30] <Dangermike> Shaffox,  its down in your lower right hand side has a picture of a trash or check ~/.Trash
[07:30] <amenado> synth-> oh okay..
[07:30] <synth> amenado, why do you ask
[07:30] <omar> macogw: I yes I did install the .13 but I can't find the screenlets icon in the start menu.
[07:30] <MrEgg964> amenado: Say I already have /home/jdoe, on a separate partition. I then reinstall Ubuntu, and provide jdoe as username : this will create a /home/jdoe directory in /. Mounting /home/jdoe (on /home) will just 'cover' /home/jdoe (on /), without any risk of conflict due to the fact that they both have the same name ?
[07:30] <macogw> omar: system -> preferences -> screenlets?
[07:30] <nickrud> icesword: you know better
[07:30] <icesword> nickrud, hmm,i am sorry,:(
[07:31] <bradley> nittanylion: so just install it manually or what and also... can this work or no?
[07:31] <macogw> icesword: bad kitty!
[07:31] <synth> heh on my conf calls for work if you screw up the process you have to apologize ont he conf call
[07:31] <nittanylion> bradley, are you getting my msgs?
[07:31]  * macogw is a hypocrite
[07:31] <amenado> synth-> because i like to somehow  manage it the right way too, having too many pc/laptops around, cant remember which is which
[07:31] <fraser> Darkmystere, i'm back. it's still not working and the install for ndiswrapper looks complicated
[07:31] <synth> and now apparently bake our availability manager a pie
[07:31] <omar> YES!!! Thanks man!! It's AWESOME!!
[07:31] <omar> :D
[07:31] <nickrud> aren't we all macogw
[07:31] <macogw> nickrud: that used to be my email sig. it included "type this in the terminal! it's really fun!"
[07:31] <bradley> nittanylion, no
[07:32] <macogw> nickrud: i took it out after my bass teacher did it on his mac
[07:32] <nittanylion> ok.. sry
[07:32] <Darkmystere> fraser, your card should work go to System->Administrator->Restricted Drivers Manager
[07:32] <Draco> MrEgg964: You can switch the home directories, yes, and you can mount on top of something that already has files (which won't affect those files)
[07:32] <synth> amenado, if you have too many passwords than pick a password scheme that allows you to remember each seperate machines passwd
[07:32] <bradley> nittanylion: was i supposed to do something
[07:32] <nittanylion> I've had great successs using the fglrx driver for my ati card -- using compiz / desktop effects right now
[07:32] <Shaffox> how do I check the hidden files with the terminal?
[07:32] <macogw> nickrud: he didnt enter his password when prompted though because he figured something was shady about that
[07:32] <omar> macogw: YES!!! Thanks man!! It's AWESOME!! XD
[07:32] <amenado> MrEgg964-> then you can remove the newly created  home/jdoe from the new /  and make sure the old /home/ is mounted
[07:32] <prince_jammys> Shaffox: ls -a
[07:32] <fraser> Darkmystere, yeah it's in there but it says it's enabled and in use
[07:32] <DanaG> Ugh, 28 load cycles in an hour.  Better than the previous one every 5 seconds.
[07:32] <nickrud> macogw: must have considered the source
[07:32] <arvind_> shaffox::ls -a
[07:32] <macogw> omar: im surprised it actually works now....
[07:32] <nittanylion> the link I pasted before has step-by-step instructions and a troubleshooting section for known problems
[07:32] <synth> amenado, thats' what I do... my passwds are similar but not word based, with some #'s etc but similar enough that I remember them based on a scheme I use.. I put a letter of the hostname in
[07:32] <bradley> nittanylion: cool, how do i get it set up
[07:33] <Draco> MrEgg964: it's extremely confusing though, so move it over or something. it's easy for it to not mount and you wonder why *every file is gone*
[07:33] <amenado> synth okay thanks for the tip
[07:33] <fraser> Darkmystere, i'm gonna try one more thing. brb 2 mins
[07:33] <AntiUSA> does anyone know of free software to convert a doc to PDF?
[07:33] <bradley> nittanylion: can u go to the #ati chat room, so its easier to see
[07:33] <macogw> nickrud: well after that i put in apt-get moo.  now it says "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda \n don't do this unless you know exactly what it does"
[07:33] <Darkmystere> fraser,Maybe you need to download a newer driver
[07:33] <arvind_> the files in the drives cant be accessed aftr some time!!!!
[07:33] <nittanylion> kkj
[07:33] <synth> amenado, google "mnemonic memory tricks" +passwords
[07:33] <synth> maybe w/out the quotes
[07:33] <Darkmystere> Fraser, Download Madwifi Stable 0.9.4 and then compile from source
[07:33] <arvind_> i took a screenshot of the error
[07:33] <amenado> synth-> what i like to do, is have one of these usb pen drive to be read by login so my password is there :P
[07:34] <synth> amenado, KeepassX is great too
[07:34] <omar> macogw: Why being surprised? isn't that one of the main concepts of software development? making things work better and easier? :)
[07:34] <Shaffox> and what command to recover the file? 'open x' doesn't work.
[07:34] <Dangermike> synth, until your db corrupts
[07:34] <nickrud> macogw: I think I'm gonna put back my old one, First impressions are bunk. and modify it to (except for macogw :)
[07:34] <synth> Dangermike, yeah... lvm snapshots!
[07:34] <Dangermike> lol
[07:34] <macogw> omar: last i tried it was junk
[07:34] <dsargeant> AntiUSA: you cans use open office writer to save as pdf.
[07:35] <macogw> nickrud: huh?
[07:35] <synth> I need to make a LUKS part
[07:35] <MrEgg964> Draco: yes, but df will list your mount points, so it shouldn't be a problem seeing what comes from where.
[07:35] <AntiUSA> wow, really?
[07:35] <synth> for my sensitive pics
[07:35] <AntiUSA> lemme try
[07:35] <prince_jammys> Shaffox: type:: ls -a ~/.Trash
[07:35] <nickrud> macogw: a bad attempt at a joke. My usual level of success
[07:35] <macogw> omar: it also didnt appear to be in very active development at the time
[07:35] <AntiUSA> ehm... does office writer come with Ubuntu?
[07:35] <synth> I need to get rid of the Trash concept in my KDE desk
[07:35] <arvind_> anybody for help!!!!
[07:35] <synth> i hate it... rm means rm...
[07:35] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: yes
[07:35] <AntiUSA> all I see is Word Processor
[07:36] <dsargeant> AntiUSA: that's it
[07:36] <Shaffox> prince_jammys, yes, I've done that already, and I've found my file, but what now to recover it?
[07:36] <omar> macogw: LOL! Yeah, but that doesn't mean nobody's working on it at all, does it? ;)
[07:36] <MrEgg964> amenado: removing /home/jdoe from / after the mount point is created in fstab makes total sense. I got it. Thanks all.
[07:36] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: gnome likes generic names in the menu
[07:36] <nickrud> AntiUSA: on the file menu, there's an export as pdf option
[07:36] <Dangermike> synth, yeah i know you would think it would read your mind through the keyboard just to make sure you meant it ;P
[07:36] <cheesebob> hum
[07:36] <DanaG> Here's a fun thing to do: cat random partitions, piped into aplay -fcd
[07:36] <cheesebob> damn it
[07:36] <arvind_> anybody for help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:36] <prince_jammys> Shaffox: cp ~/.Trash/yourfile ~/Desktop
[07:36] <cheesebob> stupid school and their requiring me to input a password for network access
[07:36] <fraser> Darkmystere, back. it didn't owrk
[07:36] <Dangermike> !ask > arvind_
[07:36] <Shaffox> oh, just copy? oke, thanks
[07:37] <Darkmystere> fraser, you get newest driver?
[07:37] <arvind_> am nt able to see the files after sometime in my local drives!!!
[07:37] <prince_jammys> Shaffox: do mv instead of cp
[07:37] <synth> has KDE4 gotten stable yet in .deb's for us?
[07:37] <macogw> omar: true.  it just looked like that part was dead and all development was in terms of making screenlets for it
[07:37] <arvind_> i hav got a screenshot of the error
[07:37] <amenado> how to fix this during boot of a liveCD iso from a harddisk? EXT3-fs: mounted file system with ordered data mode
[07:37] <fraser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 on this page but the instructions don't match the files that i got in the ndiswrapper tarball
[07:37] <amenado> kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
[07:37] <prince_jammys> Shaffox: moves it, instead of copying
[07:37] <Draco> synth: personally I alias rm to mv somewhere like a global trash folder
[07:37] <Dangermike> arvind_, lets see the picture
[07:37] <nickrud> arvind_: so, what's the link?
[07:37] <synth> amenado, that is entirely normal?
[07:37] <omar> macogw: Oh, okay. :)
[07:37] <arvind_> i hav it on y system
[07:38] <arvind_> how do i send it here
[07:38] <synth> Draco, really?
[07:38] <amenado> synth-> nope, it just cycles through that, and give the initramfs prompt(busybox) after
[07:38] <Darkmystere> fraser, Here is link http://downloads.sourceforge.net/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[07:38] <AntiUSA> great!
[07:38] <Dangermike> arvind_, imageshack.us or some hosting site
[07:38] <AntiUSA> thanks guys
[07:38] <synth> Draco, I set my vi to backup my work but that I trust my rm... I once had a space infront of a * and screwed myself slightly
[07:38] <Draco> synth: yeah, and when I want to delete something I am usually in "sh" so it doesn't matter
[07:38] <synth> Draco, but zsh is good for catching that
[07:38] <zcat[1]> I hate it when I 'delete' files to make space on my mp3 player and they just get moved to .Trash though... and emptying the desktop Trash doesn't seem to remove the mp3-player thrash either
[07:39] <synth> so zsh is my padded helmet
[07:39] <fraser> Darkmystere, oh thanks. how do i use this?
[07:39] <synth> zcat[1], .Trash can exist in the media player volume
[07:39] <synth> is it mounted under /media?
[07:39] <Draco> zcat[1]: solved by the rm->mv alias, but tricking a filemanager to do that is harder
[07:39] <dsargeant> zcat[1]: You aren't prompted to delete the trash when you unmount the mp3 player?
[07:39] <synth> go into its dir, and: find . -iname .Trash\*
[07:39] <MICHAELKYLE> hi i have a problem with xorg, ive tried every single configuration in xorg.conf and nothing seems to work, i have an BenQ V551 monitor that supports 1024x768 at 65Hz, the thing is that xorg seems to not allow my monitor to show it, cause i even put 1024x768 as the only resolution available in xorg.conf, and still i cant set it on the screen, it just keeps 800x600, but my monitor does support 1024x768 and yes im setting it to the right Frequency (60Hz),
[07:39] <MICHAELKYLE>  and i had debian before xubuntu and in debian i do had 1024 as my dsktop resolution, but now i cnt on xubuntu, is xubuntu using a different version of xorg? or its something else i need to modify. help pls
[07:40] <synth> ohhhhhh I wanna murder you
[07:40] <synth> sorry mental lapse
[07:40] <icesword> ...
[07:40] <bullgard4> man lspnp: "list Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources." What are 'Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources'?
[07:40] <zcat[1]> synth: I usually just pop a terminal and rm the fiiles.. although I know there's an option to delete without using .Trash as well
[07:40] <Dangermike> MICHAELKYLE, have you tried using the vesa video driver and choosing the simple setup when reconfiguring xorg?
[07:40] <synth> zcat[1], yeah I do too :) I just want the Trash concept just "gone" completely.. I know I can I just need to look it all up
[07:40] <arvind_> http://profile.imageshack.us/user/arvind_khadri/
[07:40] <arvind_> here
[07:40] <Draco> MICHAELKYLE: debian almost always uses an older version of xorg
[07:41] <synth> zcat[1], I still at times dont care for icons on the desk even
[07:41] <synth> zcat[1], I'm oldschool even if I run compiz :D
[07:41] <Draco> MICHAELKYLE: (or anything else)
[07:41] <zcat[1]> I keep my computer desktop pretty tidy.. my real desktops are a total mess
[07:41] <Darkmystere> fraser, open terminal -> type cd then drag that file into terminal -> type make wait for it to finish then -> type sudo make install you may have to type your user pass "because you need to be admin to do this'  and let that finish then reboot
[07:41] <synth> oh both of mine are clean, I cant survive w/out organization my job would drown me
[07:41] <Dangermike> arvind_, i have never seen that before is this an external drive or internal?
[07:41] <zcat[1]> sue has icons piled on icons on her desktop :)
[07:42] <nickrud> arvind_: ls /dev/hda5  in a terminal, can you see them there?
[07:42] <MICHAELKYLE> Draco, ive tried with all the different drivers that xorg has for default, in fact i choose all of them and nothing, but i dont remember seeing vesa. xorg comes with vesa or i have to install it?
[07:42] <arvind_> yeah everything is there on the display!!!
[07:42] <arvind_> its happening since few hours
[07:42] <Dangermike> MICHAELKYLE, vesa is already there
[07:42] <MICHAELKYLE> Dangermike,  if its there i surely did then
[07:42] <MICHAELKYLE> :(
[07:42] <arvind_> it happens with all the drives
[07:42] <synth> zcat[1], the one thing I cant stand is seeing a Windows desktop COVERED in icons
[07:43] <Dangermike> did you choose simple setup for the monitor and just choose the size?
[07:43] <Dangermike> MICHAELKYLE,
[07:43] <zcat[1]> same.. although in sue's case it's a gnome desktop
[07:43] <nickrud> arvind_: have you exited the desktop and logged back in?
[07:43] <Darkmystere> fraser, you get that sorry about disconnecting was playing with modes and accedentally killed my Main Managed VAP
[07:43] <MICHAELKYLE> Dangermike,  i choose simple, medium and advanced
[07:43] <arvind_> when i restart it resumes!!!
[07:43] <zcat[1]> her login though.. not my problem :)
[07:43] <Draco> synth: zcat[1]: I only like 2 types of icons. launchers and for minimized apps
[07:44] <MICHAELKYLE> all of those, i spent like three hours choosing the differenbt options and nothing, just one time i think i managed to do it but maybe at a higher frequency cause the monitor went down
[07:44] <fraser> Darkmystere, right going for a reboot now on that madwifi
[07:44] <Draco> synth: zcat[1]: app icons and compiz rocks, switch desktop open window, you don't have to remember to hold the "drag the window with me" key
[07:44] <sarthor> vmware installed on gutsy, its working fine, but in only can start it from terminal, to write there vmware, when i click on vmware in side the manu----system tool---vmware...... Nothing happeds. How can i fix this problem?
[07:45] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. ontopic question.. guy today had compiz-fusion running OK except all the options in compizconfig-manager were greyed out and he couldn't change any settings.. anyone know how that would have happened?
[07:45] <Draco> sarthor: add a vmware menu entry, and open in terminal if need be
[07:45] <arvind_> wat shud i do???
[07:46] <nickrud> arvind_: try creating a new user, and log in as that user. See if the problem still happens. This will tell us if its a problem in the system , or your user config
[07:46] <nickrud> arvind_: if it's a system problem, I won't have a clue
[07:46] <fraser> Darkmystere, that did not fix the problem.
[07:46] <fraser> Darkmystere, maybe i should instal ndiswrapper?
[07:47] <MICHAELKYLE> Dangermike,?  do u imagine what this could be?
[07:47] <Darkmystere> fraser, i dont get it i have same exact card..im betting its something stupid..
[07:47] <fraser> Darkmystere, which is all the more frustrating
[07:47] <Darkmystere> fraser, open terminal and type sudo modprobe ath_pci
[07:47] <rhineheart_m> Is there a way to know when an ubuntu system has been installed?
[07:48] <fraser> DarkForest, done, no output
[07:48] <LetterRip> hi all i have a load cycle count question - what is 'normal'?
[07:48] <LetterRip> mine is sudo smartctl -a /dev/hda | grep Load_Cycle_Count
[07:48] <zcat[1]> rhineheart_m: when a window pops up saying 'all done, reboot now?"
[07:48] <LetterRip> 0x0032   095   095   000    Old_age   Always       -       105837
[07:48] <arvind_> i can see it in the other userid
[07:48] <arvind_> *user id
[07:48] <prince_jammys> i think he means the installation date
[07:48] <zcat[1]> ahhh..
[07:48] <LetterRip> i keep getting what i thought was a load cycling but the number isn't increasing
[07:49] <Darkmystere> fraser..., How exactly do you know its not working..?
[07:49] <LetterRip> i'm getting a click every 3-5 seconds
[07:49] <n-rated> I got a Ubuntu live CD, is there someway to install that? or do I have to get the whole thing some how?
[07:49] <LetterRip> that is driving me nuts
[07:49] <omar> macogw: I also LOVE the radio screenlet. :D
[07:49] <zcat[1]> I guess date of earliest-created file on the box?
[07:49] <prince_jammys> n-rated: you can install from the live cd
[07:49] <fraser> Darkmystere, the madwifi? because no wireless card is recognised in 'network-admin'
[07:50] <n-rated> I can't see how?
[07:50] <zcat[1]> n-rated: double-click the 'install' icon on the live desktop.
[07:50] <prince_jammys> n-rated: there isn't an "install" icon on the desktop?
[07:50] <n-rated> I would if there was one
[07:50] <zcat[1]> hmm.. weird
[07:50] <bazhang> n-rated click install icon on desktop
[07:50] <Darkmystere> fraser, hrm.... try ifconfig ath0 up
[07:50] <arvind_> nickrud::i can see it in the other user
[07:50] <prince_jammys> n-rated: you're currently running the cd?
[07:50] <zcat[1]> n-rated: nobody here believes you :)
[07:51] <fraser> Darkmystere, ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:51] <n-rated> nope, it is an older version of that helps
[07:51] <zcat[1]> how old?
[07:51] <bazhang> n-rated what version
[07:51] <n-rated> 5 or something
[07:51] <zcat[1]> if it's that old you might be better off getting a newer version..
[07:51] <Darkmystere> fraser, lol maybe its try this sec...getting command
[07:51] <nickrud> arvind_: see the error, you mean?
[07:52] <n-rated> I just want to test it out if full before I do a download that big
[07:52] <zcat[1]> n-rated: yes, early versions had an install disk and a live disk that didn't install..
[07:52] <arvind_> no i can the drive contents i mean
[07:52] <bazhang> n-rated that wont help you that system is no longer supported and has none of the features of the current version
[07:52] <zcat[1]> n-rated: later versions (anything after 5.10 I think) had the live-installer disk
[07:52] <rhineheart_m> zcat[1]: thanks..but that's not the one.. I mean.. is there a way to know what date time and month ubuntu gutsy has been installed? like a history
[07:52] <arvind_> nickrud::i can see the contents of the drive
[07:53] <Darkmystere> fraser, wlanconfigh ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode managed then ifconfig ath0 up
[07:53] <zcat[1]> rhineheart_m: actually I think it writes an install log somewhere.. /var/log perhaps? I'd have to look
[07:53] <Darkmystere> fraser, sorry * wlanconfig
[07:53] <rhineheart_m> thanks..
[07:53] <n-rated> is there such think as a cut down CD, something that does not have all the apps on it
[07:53] <zcat[1]> Ohhh.. /var/log/installer :)
[07:53] <fraser> Darkmystere, wlanconfig: unknown create option then
[07:54] <nickrud> arvind_: but you have no errors, right? Use it for a while, see if it stays good.
[07:54] <fraser> oops
[07:54] <bazhang> Darkmystere: those are not valid commands
[07:54] <fraser> Darkmystere, hahah i'm dumb
[07:54] <Dangermike> nickrud, possibly you could help or have input.. I get seg faults with any browser on  Gutsy mostly whilst loading websites with flash but it will also happen at random on the ubuntuforums, pastebin, bugs.launchpad etc. I think its a problem with libc.so.6. I am focused on Firefox and this is the debugging info from firefox http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12513343/gdb-firefox.log any ideas on how to Troubleshoot/possibly fix this problem?
[07:54] <fraser> Darkmystere, wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device
[07:54] <Darkmystere> fraser,bazhang, i use them all the time to turn my thing monitor mode on and off
[07:54] <arvind_> nickrud::hmmm...i have got lots of other prob too,this version aint stable...the same on my pal's laptop is fine
[07:55] <Darkmystere> fraser, i think linux might be seeing your wireless card as something else.
[07:55] <nickrud> Dangermike: I've been seeing your issue this evening. This happened on a fresh install iirc
[07:55] <fraser> DarkForest, dang. gtg
[07:55] <fraser> sorry
[07:55] <bazhang> fraser the command you are looking for is ifconfig and iwconfig
[07:55] <Darkmystere> fraser, lol i always do this...i be real mad no internet did you flip the switch...
[07:55] <nickrud> arvind_: do you have any packages installed from repos other than ubuntu?
[07:55] <Dangermike> nickrud, yes it happened with a pre-existing install and it was fine for several months i reformatted and now the issue came back day 1 of the new install
[07:55] <ubuntu__> Hello. I just have a quick question about installing Ubuntu on a USB connected hard drive. If I choose "Guided - use entire disk" and choose the hard drive I want to install on, will it not touch my internal hard drives?
[07:55] <arvind_> yeah,there are some drivers,Anjuta
[07:55] <zcat[1]> rhineheart_m: the date of the files in /var/log/installer will be a fairly accurate indication, if the clock was correct at the time..
[07:56] <Darkmystere> fraser, i have a lil switch on side of my labtop to turn wireless card on and off...somtimes i have it halfway on and linux still seeś ap's but i cannot connect :/ well try flipping it on and off
[07:56] <nickrud> Dangermike: I really don't have a clue, and all my troubleshooting code was done in the 80's. I am rust.
[07:56] <n-rated> Linux moves so fast, something from 2005 is called "That old" but if it was windows that would be "real new"
[07:57] <Dangermike> nickrud, ok though i would check ill wait and hopefully the bug report will be picked up soon :)
[07:57] <bazhang> fraser the commands Darkmystere are giving you are not valid commands that is why they are not working
[07:57] <Darkmystere> bazhang, give me one reason why they arent valid
[07:57] <rhineheart_m> zcat[1]: just like this one? Feb 17 09:05:40 syslogd started: BusyBox v1.1.3
[07:58] <zcat[1]> rhineheart_m: yes, and "ls -l /var/log/installer" will give you the year as well
[07:58] <nickrud> arvind_: try using it for a while. If it stays clean, you can either clear out all the nautilus/gnome configs on the first user, or move all your data to the new user and keep using it.
[07:58] <Darkmystere> bazhang, hello..
[07:59] <rhineheart_m> zcat[1]: thanks.. that helps.. :)
[07:59] <icesword> hmm
[07:59] <killown> high-freq, how I do to secure delete folders ?
[07:59] <Dangermike> Alright well off to reformat and hopefully track down this bug :\
[07:59] <zcat[1]> killown: shred ?
[08:00] <Darkmystere> bazhang, iwconfig monitor and managed doesnt work with my card..
[08:00] <Darkmystere> bazhang, only wlanconfig..
[08:00] <zcat[1]> !info shred
[08:00] <ubotu> Package shred does not exist in gutsy
[08:00] <zcat[1]> hmmm...
[08:00] <killown> zcat[1] shred delete folder?
[08:00] <nonix4> zcat[1]: part of coreutils
[08:01] <zcat[1]> rm -rf folder/ deletes a folder.. shred overwrites the contents with random garbage several times first, so it can never be recovered
[08:01] <ynef> zcat[1]: well, "never" is not quite right... but it does make it harder
[08:02] <arvind__> nickrud::yeah,there are some drivers,Anjuta
[08:02] <Darkmystere> bazhang,fraser, if you dont beileave me ill get yall the manual link to madwifi\
[08:02] <nickrud> if you're worried about someone reading shredded files, you're in deep trouble anyway
[08:02] <bullgard4> man lspnp: "list Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources." What are 'Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources'?
[08:02] <zcat[1]> ynef: for all practical purposes .. most people aren't of interest to the NSA ..
[08:02] <killown> zcat[1] I want secude delete and not a fake delete
[08:02] <nonix4> ynef: yeah, w/ modern hds even shred over the full capacity isn't 'nuff... because of relocating happending behind the scenes
[08:02] <nickrud> arvind_: what drivers?
[08:03] <arvind__> drivers for my graphics card and webcam
[08:03] <zcat[1]> killown: can't really be done on a single file or folder.. you can zero an entire drive pretty easily
[08:03] <shishirm1> hi
[08:03] <bloo`> hi <.<
[08:04] <killown> omg
[08:04] <nonix4> zcat[1]: umm, only if you trust the "secure erase" features of the hds to empty the relocated parts too
[08:04] <zcat[1]> killown: for individual files, there is always the chance that copies exist elsewhere due to filesystem mantenance, etc
[08:04] <arvind__> nickrud::drivers for my graphics card and webcam
[08:04] <shishirm1> i am not able to see the gui interface of my ubuntu installation
[08:04] <suncydu> Network problem. Have a toshiba laptop. The inside wificard does not show on network devices. It sais its a rtl8187b wlan adapter. Its listed at lshw usb.
[08:04] <RoadHazard> do any of you know egroupware or a chat I can goto that might help?
[08:04] <shishirm1> there is some error in the xserver
[08:04] <nickrud> arvind__: they shouldn't matter with nautilus.
[08:05] <Darkmystere> bazhang,fraser, Here you go http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/ChangingMode
[08:05] <zcat[1]> nonix4: it's more than enough for most people... casual ebay file-recoveres won't get anything off the drive.
[08:05] <shishirm1> please help and tell me how to reinstall xserver
[08:05] <RoadHazard> apt-get install xorg-xserver*
[08:05] <nickrud> shishirm1: did it work before?
[08:05] <shishirm1> ya it did
[08:05] <arvind__> shishir:sudo aptitude reinstall xorg-xserver
[08:05] <nickrud> shishirm1: what did you do that broke it?
[08:06] <suncydu> tryed ndiswrapper and installed the rtl8187b win driver. But somehow the usb wont show up on network
[08:06] <nonix4> zcat[1]: Umm, I though they're accessible pretty easily if you can find 2nd logic board for the hd & swap them parts...
[08:06] <nickrud> shishirm1: or, what did you do recently ;)
[08:06] <zcat[1]> shishirm1: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop probably ..
[08:06] <RoadHazard> sudo....
[08:06] <zcat[1]> nonix4: yes, but very, very few people would go to that kind of effort
[08:06] <arvind__> nickrud::am next to be crying...
[08:06] <shishirm1> nickrud: i upgraded some stuff... may be i upgarded my 6.10 to gnome 2,21
[08:06] <kiyoung> list
[08:06] <nickrud> arvind__: it broke again?
[08:07] <kiyoung> ;;
[08:07] <kiyoung> Leaving
[08:07] <arvind__> nickrud::not now,but am having lots of other probs too
[08:07] <zcat[1]> nonix4: and even then, they get a block here or there, most likely part of the OS or some big mpeg file.. very unlikely to be anything interesting
[08:07] <nickrud> shishirm1: you tried to upgrade from 6.10 to 8.04 ?
[08:08] <arvind__> nickrud::am jus hoping tat Hardy is more Stable like Fiesty
[08:08] <shishirm1> no i wanna keep 6.10
[08:08] <nickrud> arvind__: I seem to have no problems with gutsy. But then, I avoid third party stuff like the plague
[08:08] <b_ecca> does anyone here know how to build iphone sdk on ubuntu?
[08:08] <nickrud> shishirm1: how do you mean, upgrade gnome to 2.21 then?
[08:09] <arvind__> nickrud::i cant play vidoes on youtube without the third party!!!
[08:09] <arvind__> nickrud::i find gutsy very unstable ...
[08:09] <shishirm1> gnome 2.16 to gnome2.21
[08:09] <nickrud> arvind_: ok, I also use that and w32codecs :)
[08:09] <zcat[1]> flash annoys me .. one in ten movies it just utterly locks up for ages, and I have to kill and restart firefox. and there's nobody I can even send a bug report to..
[08:10] <rhineheart_m> zcat[1]: how about the times the system has been shutdown?
[08:10] <nickrud> shishirm1: you compiled it? Did you do anything with your drivers as well?
[08:10] <arvind__> nickrud::the latest version of gnome too is very unstable
[08:10] <zcat[1]> rhineheart_m: somewhere in syslog.. not sure exactly how it logs shutdowns but bootups should be pretty obvious
[08:11] <arvind__> i feel logging off and re-installin is the best option!!!!
[08:11] <eX_> hi, how i can to uninstall kde 4 from ubuntu?
[08:11] <nickrud> arvind_: might be. I installed more than a handful of times when I first started learning
[08:12] <arvind__> nickrud::thanks for all the support
[08:12] <nonix4> zcat[1]: yeah... all that said, freespace wipe w/ shred or the other workalikes is pretty efficient
[08:12] <zcat[1]> istr there was a big list of packages somewhere that you could apt-get remove to get rid of kde ...
[08:13] <eX_> where i can to saw this list?
[08:13] <eX_> :)
[08:13] <bazhang> zcat[1]: kde-base would likely do that
[08:13] <bullgard4> man lspnp: "list Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources." What are 'Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources'?
[08:13] <zcat[1]> nonix4: I have an encrypted FS anyhow.. anyone gets my old drive isn't going to get squat from any part of it ..
[08:13] <dsargeant> eX_: did you try sudo apt-get remove kde4*
[08:13] <eX_> no..
[08:13] <eX_> :)
[08:14] <nickrud> zcat[1]: have I got a link for you. One sec
[08:14] <zcat[1]> nickrud: seen it..
[08:14] <zcat[1]> nickrud: I never leave my laptop sleeping, it goes right off :)
[08:14] <nonix4> zcat[1]: I'm actually trying to break one encrypted FS of my own - forgot password couple years ago... so far my research shows that it is feasible.
[08:14] <nickrud> zcat[1]: ok ;)
[08:15] <zcat[1]> nickrud: I actually want to try that technique sometime and see how well it works.. looks pretty doable.
[08:15] <nonix4> zcat[1]: ... so ordering a 3 terabyte raid array & 8 gigs of ram to do it :)
[08:15] <nickrud> zcat[1]: yeah, another laptop and a can of air. Oh, the low tech solutions are the best
[08:16] <zcat[1]> nickrud: I think they posted up all the tools too
[08:16] <cromag> does anyone have a link for adding a harddisk with windows on it and adding it to grub for boot ?
[08:16] <zcat[1]> !ntfs
[08:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[08:18] <nonix4> cromag: as a 2nd hd? besides chainloading you need to convince that silly of that it wants to boot... is running it in a VM an option? ;)
[08:20] <bazhang> startupmanager is a little gui app to manage grub cromag
[08:20] <cromag> bazhang: i will have a look at that,
[08:20] <cromag> nonix4: thanks for input :)
[08:21] <bazhang> cromag: have you tried plugging it in, editing your fstab and then see if that works? startupmanager might come in handy too
[08:22] <cromag> bazhang: not tried yet, a friend of mine with the "hurdle".
[08:22] <karllenz> i need some help wit ndiswrapper
[08:22] <karllenz> and my macbook
[08:22] <karllenz> santarosa
[08:22] <bazhang> cromag: aha well let us know if you need more assistance
[08:22] <cromag> bazhang: thanks for your help :)
[08:23] <bazhang> no worries cromag ;]
[08:23] <karllenz> i get to the part where i type sudo ndiswrapper -l
[08:23] <karllenz> and it says bcmwl5 : invalid driver!
[08:23] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook karllenz you might take a look here
[08:24] <karllenz> im there
[08:24] <sorryamnew1> what do they mean by saying working in linux ntfs is not safe
[08:24] <bazhang> sorryamnew1: who is they and could you give more info please
[08:24] <nickrud> sorryamnew1: that was very true for a long time, but the driver is very mature now
[08:24] <karllenz> anyone? it to get wifi to work
[08:25] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/24/how-to-enable-wireless-networking-on-the-macbook-ubuntu-710/ karllenz what about this?
[08:25] <karllenz> well the other link has steps
[08:25] <cromag> karllenz: it says on the page...
[08:25] <karllenz> and i get to one command an it messes up
[08:26] <sorryamnew1> how can i disable the disk error check when ubuntu starts
[08:26] <bwayne> sorryamnew1: edit fstab.
[08:26] <destined> tune2fs?
[08:26] <bwayne> sorryamnew1: or tune2fs.
[08:26] <cromag> karllenz: that is for windows drivers.
[08:26] <destined> tune2fs -c 1000 /dev/?
[08:27] <SnowFlake> hello
[08:27] <bwayne> 1000 is pointless.
[08:27] <destined> bwayne: that's the point?
[08:27] <bwayne> it needs to be checked sometimes.
[08:27] <karllenz> well yea
[08:27] <eX_> well it's works
[08:27] <destined> set it to 100 then?
[08:27] <karllenz> my chip set is Broadcom 4328
[08:27] <bwayne> that's a nice round.number.  :-)
[08:28] <eX_> how i can to uninstall gnome?
[08:28] <eX_> :)
[08:28] <karllenz> its not supported by bcm43xx
[08:28] <raju> live cd booting ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[08:28] <eX_> sudo apt-get remove gnom* ?
[08:28] <bazhang> eX_: what replacement or you want straight cli
[08:28] <ompaul> eX_, sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome << be prepared to break upgrades and also remove local . files
[08:28] <destined> tune2fs -c 100 /dev/nameofhd should work
[08:28] <raju> anyone please answer to my query
[08:29] <bazhang> raju first ask ;]
[08:29] <raju> live cd booting ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[08:29] <cromag> karllenz: so you checked that you HAVE to use the windows driver ?
[08:29] <karllenz> yea
[08:29] <raju> bazhang, live cd booting ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[08:29] <eX_> bazhang: kde 3
[08:29] <cromag> ok.
[08:29] <ompaul> !bootoptions > raju (however if the disk is not starting at all - burn a new one slowly)
[08:29] <karllenz> thats what the wiki says
[08:29] <nickrud> eX_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[08:29] <bazhang> raju what does not exist?
[08:30] <raju> bazhang, root filesystem is not mounting
[08:30] <cromag> karllenz: for macbook pro ?
[08:30] <cromag> ah
[08:30] <ompaul> raju, you need to burn a new disk - do it really slowly
[08:30] <karllenz> nope macbook santa rosa
[08:30] <RoadHazard> "pure KDE" sounds like something with the government involved
[08:30] <eX_> nickrud: thank's!
[08:31] <sorryamnew1> who can i disable the disk error check ..... i opened fstab this is a sample line what should i do : UUID=1EE9-2363  /media/hda5     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:31] <cromag> karllenz: ok, and it installs ndiswrapper fine ?
[08:31] <karllenz> yea
[08:31] <karllenz> just cant get the driver installed
[08:31] <karllenz> i think thats the issue
[08:31] <bwayne> sorryamnew1: replace that final 1 with a 0 to disable completely.  follow destined advice otherwise.
[08:31] <karllenz> i run sudo ndiswrapper -l
[08:32] <karllenz> and it says invalid driver
[08:32] <cromag> karllenz: and you did the other ones completely ?
[08:32] <karllenz> i got up to that step on the wiki
[08:32] <karllenz> the skipped it and ran the next two commands
[08:32] <cromag> karllenz: yes, but did you do all the steps before ?
[08:32] <karllenz> yes
[08:32] <bwayne> sorryamnew1: but ... do that to the line that has "/" where that line has "/media/hd5".
[08:33] <cromag> and no erros ?
[08:33] <karllenz> is there a way i can start over from scratch and try it again
[08:33] <karllenz> in case i missed something
[08:33] <sorryamnew1> thx bwayne
[08:33] <Nostahl> is it possible to add function to your bios? ie my built in card reader is not bootable
[08:34] <rawbeef> Does Beryl have high spec requirements?
[08:34] <bwayne> Nostahl: yeah.  it's called a BIOS update.  look to the manufacturers of your MB>
[08:34] <rawbeef> I"m just trying to get a os x-esque dock
[08:34] <bazhang> rawbeef not beryl anymore
[08:34] <Nostahl> i have the latest bwayne
[08:34] <neville> rawbeef Beryl could run just fine on my 450MHz Pentium 3 with Geforce 4
[08:34] <cromag> karllenz: i dont know.
[08:34] <Nostahl> are there any custom bios's out there?
[08:34] <neville> But, as he said, not Beryl anymore
[08:35] <karllenz> mmm
[08:35] <bwayne> Nostahl:not that I know of.
[08:35] <rawbeef> Is compiz-fusion necessary to use?
[08:35] <karllenz> that sux lol
[08:35] <rawbeef> i was just oging to use beryl
[08:35] <rawbeef> Are there any guides out there for an os-x looking gui?
[08:35] <destined> bwayne: do you mean instead of -c 100, just a zero?
[08:35] <bazhang> rawbeef no longer supported
[08:35] <neville> rawbeef have you had a look at kooldock?
[08:35] <cromag> karllenz: ok ehm... just try to delete the driver and the dir it is in and try the steps again and paste ALL of it to pastebin
[08:35] <bwayne> destined: no.  0 is for fstab entry, not tune.
[08:35] <zcat[1]> was running compiz-fusion nicely on a 1ghz chip with nvidia mx440 a few months back ..
[08:36] <karllenz> it wont let me delet the folder
[08:36] <zcat[1]> things like 'water' were a bit sluggish though
[08:36] <nickrud> compiz runs like crap on my dual 1.6 amd64 (with ati)
[08:36] <cromag> be more specific ?
[08:36] <marco92302> bit of a noob here, i need some help though i tried installing restricted drivers in gutsy and it will no longer boot into gui just cl
[08:36] <zcat[1]> ati's are crap :)
[08:37] <rawbeef> neville:  nope let me check it out
[08:37] <RoadHazard> here ya go sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:37] <bradley> #ati
[08:37] <sorryamnew1> what is the minimum ram for running ubuntu gusty
[08:37] <bullgard4> man lspnp: "list Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources." What are 'Plug and Play BIOS device nodes and resources'?
[08:37] <zcat[1]> marco92302: log into cl and less /var/log/Xorg.0.log (I think.. something like it) to see where it's failing
[08:37] <bwayne> sorryamnew1, I'd recommend 512.
[08:38] <rawbeef> neville:  is kooldock only for kde? i use gnome
[08:38] <bazhang> sorryamnew1: just running or with all the bells and whistles?
[08:38] <RoadHazard> change the driver back from fglrx and life goes on
[08:38] <karllenz> ok
[08:38] <sleepster> nickserv identify igotbignuttz
[08:38] <sleepster> oops
[08:38] <karllenz> files deleted
[08:38] <karllenz> no ill start over
[08:38] <sorryamnew1> running whith lets say openoffice ... whith no hanging
[08:38] <omar_> Guys where can I find good add-ons for the panels, like the dilbert add-on for example
[08:38] <omar_> ?
[08:38] <zcat[1]> rofl... nice password sleepster .. no go change it :)
[08:38] <nickrud> sleepster: consider yourself advised to change your password ;)
[08:39] <zcat[1]> *now
[08:39] <bazhang> hehe
[08:39] <RoadHazard> I run gutsy on a 233 mmx with 64m of ram, its my little juke box laptop
[08:39] <sleepster> haha
[08:39] <BernardB> Hm
[08:39] <sleepster> I was just kidding..
[08:39] <sleepster> that's not my password
[08:39] <cyberjames> lol
[08:39] <sonicreindeer> Good morning to all. Have a bootloader issue re: Feisty PPC
[08:39] <BernardB> Tann3h, is flooding?
[08:39] <BernardB> *spamming
[08:39] <RoadHazard> "thats the combination for my luggage, 12345!"
[08:40] <RoadHazard> define problem sonic
[08:40] <sleepster> anyone know of good grammar checkers for linux?
[08:40] <nickrud> BernardB: in pm?
[08:40] <BernardB> Yes nickrud
[08:40] <sleepster> I haven't found anything good
[08:40] <BernardB> Looks like on-join nickrud
[08:40] <omar_> Guys where can I find good add-ons for the panels, like the dilbert add-on for example?
[08:40] <zcat[1]> sleepster: post it on slashdot.. the grammar nazis will pick up anything less than perfect in it
[08:41] <marco92302> road hazard: thankyou so much it worked took two minutes
[08:41] <sleepster> ridiculous.. serious
[08:41] <nickrud> any new joiners getting pm spam?
[08:42] <sleepster> ompaul: it's not like this channel is any good or anything... what are you protecting it from?
[08:42] <ompaul> very and you are offtopic with the likes of that
[08:42] <bazhang> omar: perhaps gnome-look.org not sure about that
[08:42] <karllenz> is this all one command??????      unzip -a R151517.EXE -driver/
[08:42] <karllenz> cd driver/DRIVER/
[08:42] <BernardB> nickrud, what shall I do with it for now?
[08:42] <jaggz-> Does anyone see anything wrong with my partitions?  http://bdh.voyager.com/ptable.txt
[08:42] <nickrud> BernardB: still getting spam?
[08:43] <RoadHazard> marco92302, what took 2 minutes? I am getting lost here
[08:43] <BernardB> No, only on-join
[08:43] <bwayne> jaggz-: other than the fact you're drives are identical.  RAID?
[08:43] <jaggz-> dmraid is saying " ERROR: dos: partition address past end of RAID device"  .. I'm not sure why though.  the partition table seems fine to me
[08:44] <bazhang> sleepster: best step back there
[08:44] <jaggz-> bwayne, yeah.. raid mirror.. using the motherboard's onboard promise (fasttrak 378) sata support..
[08:44] <RoadHazard> well thats pretty straightforward ERROR: dos, nuff said
[08:44] <sorryamnew1> is it true that external modems don't need a driver
[08:44] <jaggz-> dmraid recognizes it.. and shows me the first 3 partitions fine.. but it doesn't show me the last partition (my ext3fs)
[08:44] <nickrud> sorryamnew1: yes
[08:44] <olejorgenb> how do I control volume, when I use the OSS sound driver?
[08:44] <RoadHazard> sorryamnew1, external modems are for the most part smart and do not use drivers
[08:45] <olejorgenb> adjusting front works, but it's still too loud when front is set to minimum
[08:45] <jaggz-> that is, I get /dev/dm-0 through 4.. dm-0 is the drive (mirror of sda and sdb) .. and 1 is ntfs, 2 is swap, 3 is ext2 (my boot partition), and 4 is.. there is no dm-4 :)
[08:45] <RoadHazard> olejorgenb, I would get ossmixer
[08:45] <zcat[1]> nitpick.. I have seen external USB winmodems..
[08:46] <olejorgenb> RoadHazard: not in the repos?
[08:46] <zcat[1]> externam serial modems generally don't need drivers though.. and some smart PCI modems don't either
[08:46] <RoadHazard> google is your freund
[08:46] <jaggz-> sorryamnew: the difference is if software handles some of the modem features or not
[08:47] <bazhang> RoadHazard: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet ;]
[08:47] <RoadHazard> I didnt say jfgi did I?
[08:47] <nickrud> bazhang: oh, that's gotta become a factoid
[08:47] <ompaul> you did now ;-0
[08:47] <RoadHazard> sorry
[08:47] <sorryamnew1> mmmm can u explian the word Serial pls
[08:47] <olejorgenb> hehe, man I have to install tons of kdelibs just to adjust my oss volume
[08:47] <marco92302> roadhazard: reconfiguring it fixed it
[08:47] <RoadHazard> sweet
[08:47] <marco92302> i have a gui
[08:47] <marco92302> thank you
[08:47] <ompaul> !google
[08:48] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[08:48] <joeytwiddle> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=
[08:48] <bazhang> nickrud: haha thanks
[08:48] <ompaul> hmm
[08:48] <zcat[1]> sorryamnew1: modems that connect through 9-pin or 25-pin D connector are serial...
[08:48] <jaggz-> RoadHazard: well.. it's not a warning.. it's an error.. do you think it's unrelated to the actual problem I'm experiencing -- ie. that my last partition is not coming up as /dev/dm-4 ?
[08:48] <RoadHazard> the xserver-xorg thing? I was in 3 channels
[08:48] <marco92302> yes
[08:48] <flowOver> any reason why ubuntu would system halt my machine 2min after startup?  ctrl-alt-bs nor ctrl-alt-f* work
[08:48] <zcat[1]> who the heck still uses modems these days anyway :)
[08:48] <nickrud> faxers
[08:49] <bazhang> flowOver: this is the installer or the livecd
[08:49] <sorryamnew1> does the usb modems need no drivers like the serial ones
[08:49] <jaggz-> I was tempted to setup a voicemail system on my computer instead of an answering machine (w/phone co)
[08:49] <flowOver> it happens usually while i'm surfing for about 30min then x will flash off and on, then another 10min will pass and it freezes.  just now it happened on boot
[08:49] <flowOver> bazhang: this is a full install that i've configured with my drivers
[08:49] <bradley> #ati
[08:49] <bazhang> flowOver: what drivers are you referring to please
[08:50] <sorryamnew1> zcat : in my country we still use it
[08:50] <ompaul> bazhang, pm the bot google - is it changed a lot
[08:50] <zcat[1]> sorryamnew: no, USB external modems need drivers..
[08:50] <flowOver> nvidia and i changed to alsa mixer for the sound since i had even more freeze ups without it
[08:50] <bazhang> ompaul: will do ;]
[08:50] <flowOver> is there a log i can look at somewhere that would show why it freezes?
[08:51] <zcat[1]> NZ has only just reached the point where there are more ppl on BB than DU :)
[08:51] <jaggz-> okay.. so then my question is:  "Why is my 4th partition (root fs, ext3) not showing up as /dev/dm-4 while the other 3 partitions show up as dm-1, 2, and 3?"
[08:52] <Ziroday> I have a nvidia 8800GTS that can not be used with the nvidia drivers, it will only ever work with the vesa drivers
[08:52] <sleepster> flowOver: check dmesg
[08:52] <nickrud> ompaul: I'd only suggest a period in place of the second ;
[08:52] <howto> how to scan all mac address in my network?
[08:52] <zcat[1]> Ziroday: yeah, you have to use nvidia's binary installer..
[08:52] <sleepster> flowOver: it should point to any good leads..
[08:52] <flowOver> what's demesg?
[08:52] <sleepster> flowOver: if it doesn't say anything of interest.. check out var/logs
[08:52] <dougsko> howto: nmap!
[08:52] <sleepster> flowOver: type 'dmesg'
[08:52] <sleepster> flowOver: rtfm  man dmesg
[08:53] <karllenz> ok i got the same error
[08:53] <nickrud> !rtfm | sleepster
[08:53] <ubotu> sleepster: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:53] <flowOver> the man for ubuntu is a community forum
[08:53] <flowOver> aka useless
[08:53] <karllenz> running sudo ndiswrapper -l
[08:53] <howto> dougsko: the nmpa command please
[08:53] <sleepster> how come this channel is so uptight
[08:53] <howto> dougsko: the nmap command please
[08:53] <flowOver> uptight?  wasn't he the one who told me off with rtfm?
[08:53] <dougsko> howto: im a sherpa, not a hand-holder. google on brotha
[08:54] <majikins> hi-is there a way to change window manager for each user?
[08:54] <karllenz> how can i put something into a pastebin
[08:54] <flowOver> anyways.  dmesg echo'd more information than the terminal buffer will hold
[08:54] <flowOver> and it's all greek to me
[08:54] <majikins> say I want to run kde for user1 and gnome for user2?
[08:54] <nickrud> flowOver: dmesg | less , you can page thru with that
[08:54] <zcat[1]> majikins: in theory.. but it tends to get messy
[08:55] <zcat[1]> majikins: it's much easier if everyone just uses gnome :)
[08:55] <majikins> I know but one of my family likes kde better
[08:55] <flowOver> thanks
[08:55] <bazhang> flowOver: how about installing pastebinit and cat it there
[08:55] <majikins> and I want them to use linux instead of winbugs
[08:55] <karllenz> does hardy support the new macbooks
[08:56] <bazhang> karllenz: best to ask in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[08:56] <flowOver> this all seems like pretty specific system information though.  i dont really want to publish it
[08:56] <biabia> can anyone recommend a good/decent/fair fserve script for xchat?    I tried tuxserv but it seems buggy and hasnt been updated it like 3-4 yrs
[08:57] <bazhang> flowOver: oh okay, well you can edit out the sensitive stuff with nickrud's command and paste that
[08:57] <nickrud> flowOver: it's pretty generic, nothing in there that's going to give someone a hacking tool
[08:57] <ompaul> flowOver, then you can't really get value out of here - help is nothing you can get if you don't ask the right questions or give enough of the right information
[08:57] <nickrud> flowOver: it just talks about hardware
[08:57] <zcat[1]> majikins: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop .. gdm will let you use gnome or kde for your default session
[08:58] <dougsko> bazhang: whats pastebinit?
[08:58] <zcat[1]> Ican't stand KDE .. I used to prefer it but I'm so used to gnome now..
[08:58] <flowOver> ditto.  or more along how can i install it?  is it in synaptic?
[08:58] <kcynice> anybody would like to tell me why my system is no-sound if i log using the other user account?
[08:58] <bazhang> dougsko: it is a nifty little app that sends stuff you cat and pipe directly to pastebin and returns the url
[08:58] <RoadHazard> sudo apt-get install kde-core
[08:59] <majikins> so user1 does not have to select kde - it gets loaded automatically upon his login?
[08:59] <RoadHazard> if you check the box it does
[08:59] <Maimster> 2 gnome or NOT 2 gnome that is the question.
[08:59] <flowOver> yess it is.  okay so how do i use it to pastebin the dmesg?
[08:59] <kcynice> this user account is created when the system installed,and the other user was created later in the terminal
[08:59] <zcat[1]> majikins: they select it once, and get asked if they want to make it the default.. from then on it will always log them into kde
[08:59] <majikins> cool
[09:00] <dougsko> bazhang: thats what i thought. i actaullt wrote an identical script in ruby for use in IRC. take a looksy if you wanna --> http://pastebin.ca/933365
[09:00] <bazhang> dougsko: very elegant thanks!
[09:00] <dougsko> it takes stdin or a file name
[09:00] <majikins> is there a file that this setting gets changed in?
[09:00] <majikins> I've read about xinitrc
[09:00] <zcat[1]> majikins: I think .xsession from memory..
[09:01] <majikins> thanks for the information
[09:01] <sonicreindeer> Got locked out, booted from the server, then spent a good 30 minutes logging back on this channel. No fun:(
[09:01] <dougsko> bazhang: i use pastebin.ca becaue the author of the site was awesome enough to specifically allow API access. something which is lacking from 99% of pastebins (including the ubuntu one)
[09:01] <flowOver> how do i use pastebinit with dmesg?
[09:02] <sonicreindeer> Anyway, bakc to the bootloader issue at hand.
[09:02] <zcat[1]> flowOver: "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[09:02] <bazhang> dougsko: how long to do that? and how long to learn ruby? sorry for the offtopic
[09:02] <sonicreindeer> I am attempting to repair a broken Xubuntu Feisty system. I was testing a dual-boot scenario last evening within my Mac Jaguar partition while loading OS 9.2.2 on top of the desktop as a separate app( ie; running Classic on top of Jaguar ). Little did I realize how the Classic sys files overwrote the files within the bootloader in the MBR for me to access my Feisty drive separate from my Mac drive. Can't boot to Feisty.
[09:03] <flowOver> http://paste.stgraber.org/1283  << my dmesg
[09:03] <flowOver> what exactly is the nature of the |?
[09:03] <dougsko> bazhang: not long at all. ruby is very easy and VERY worth while
[09:03] <bazhang> dougsko: thanks!
[09:03] <sonicreindeer> PS- I explained this exact issue with the #xubuntu folks and was referred here.
[09:04] <zcat[1]> flowOver: pipe, it takes the output of the preceeding command and uses it as input for the next command
[09:04] <sonicreindeer> Here are the box specs:  1st Generation G4/ 400 PPC( Sawtooth ) w/ 896 MB of RAM, a factory 20 Gig drive is running Jaguar w/ a separate 40 GB Maxtor runing my beloved Feisty. Attempted the upgrade from feisty iinto Gutsy, but, my box didn't like it much.
[09:04] <dougsko> bazhang: np
[09:04] <flowOver> ruby is a nice language tho rails is a horribly bloated framework that doesn't allow flexibility at all.  it's either you make it their way or don't.  every ruby environment i've ever encountered is saturated in rail'isms that i've never bothered to invest alot of time into the language myself.
[09:05] <sonicreindeer> I spent overthree months configgin' Feisty the way I personally want for it to run. Although the upgrade has crossed my mind several times over, I'm keepin' Feisty. Convince me otherwise w/ the right ISO link w/ all of the first-run bugs worked out of Gutsy, I'll hop on boar?d
[09:05] <flowOver> zcat[1]: thank you for explaining that
[09:05] <sonicreindeer> I spent overthree months configgin' Feisty the way I personally want for it to run. Although the upgrade has crossed my mind several times over, I'm keepin' Feisty. Convince me otherwise w/ the right ISO link w/ all of the first-run bugs worked out of Gutsy, I'll hop on board.
[09:06] <dougsko> flowOver: rails != ruby. its just a web dev framework that uses it
[09:06] <flowOver> yes i know
[09:06] <cdubya> sonicreindeer, grub-install ??
[09:06] <sonicreindeer> Yes.
[09:06] <flowOver> " every ruby environment i've ever encountered is saturated in rail'isms"
[09:07] <dougsko> flowOver: i dont know what youve been doing with it, but ruby is basically the most awesome scripting language around
[09:07] <cdubya> sonicreindeer, I was wondering if that were in order in your case....
[09:07] <flowOver> ruby is a great language.  i'm guessing that 3/4 of ruby that's on the web is rail's based
[09:08] <flowOver> and rail's is what makes it not worthwhile for me to learn ruby
[09:08] <flowOver> more so than i have
[09:08] <RoadHazard> heh, php, cause newbs wanna www too!
[09:08] <dougsko> flowOver: not even close
[09:08] <sonicreindeer> Still here, cdubya
[09:08] <dougsko> flowOver: ruby pwns python and perl (imo). it has nothing to do with web dev
[09:08] <dougsko> flowOver: its for /antyhing/
[09:09] <dougsko> web dev is for chumps anyway
[09:09] <flowOver> so it wasn't webdev that put ruby into the spotlight?  it was barely supported before rails was the hype 2 years ago.
[09:10] <flowOver> it pays the bills
[09:10] <dougsko> flowOver: web dev made ruby popular in the US. its been the #1 language in japan for years
[09:10] <ompaul> !offtopic | flowOver (this is not a programming channel)
[09:10] <ubotu> flowOver (this is not a programming channel): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:10] <dougsko> flowOver: and as a general programmer, itll make you smile. trust me
[09:11] <flowOver> i'm not aloud to comment anymore on it
[09:11] <RoadHazard> cobol programmers do not bellyache about how wordy it is if thats the only language they know
[09:11] <tpyoknig> I need help I moved a file, nautilus says its on the filesystem but doesnt show up under terminal with ls -la or in nautilus
[09:12] <flowOver> so has anyone looked at my dmesg at all?  my system has a tendancy to lock up.  doesn't respond to anything
[09:12] <nickrud> flowOver: the only thing I see is your cdrom error
[09:12] <RoadHazard> have you tried flowers and maybe a nice dinner?
[09:12] <RoadHazard> sorry, I'm getting giddy
[09:12] <cdubya> sonicreindeer, I guess I was thinking if you know which drive you had the bootloader installed on, boot the system to a liveCD and try to run grub-install on that drive again to reinstate the boot loader, but I'm prolly just wacked as it's extremely late and far beyond my limit for being able to stay awake well.....
[09:12] <flowOver> nickrud: yeah i saw that too... but had no clue what it ment
[09:13] <dougsko> RoadHazard: cobol dudes are very specialized. dying breeds tend to be be touchy about their own mortality
[09:13] <Gastro> I'm trying to make a customized ubuntu live-cd. I want to install kde/kubuntu-desktop instead of gnome. But i get some errors. http://rafb.net/p/VzDqgb82.html
[09:14] <Ziroda1> Hi, can I have some help getting my Nvidia 8800GTS working please
[09:14] <nickrud> flowOver: neither do I
[09:14] <sonicreindeer> Ain't that the truth here, Cdubya. I've been rackin' my braincells futilly in an effort to rescue Feisty.
[09:14] <Maimster> Ziroda1 Nice freak'in card man.
[09:14] <Ziroda1> Maimster: would be even nicer if it worked :)
[09:14] <ompaul> flowOver, --  EXT3-fs: hda1: orphan cleanup on readonly fs  -- tell me do you turn off the machine with the shutdown icon or the power switch ??
[09:15] <RoadHazard> I made a good living doing cobol in 1999
[09:15] <Maimster> Ziroda1 I cheated, I just install with the card inserted. All went perfect.
[09:15] <flowOver> ompaul:  well i shut down usually, but the machine tends to freeze up right.  so it's hard to do it most of the time.
[09:15] <Ziroda1> Maimster: what card do you have?
[09:15] <dougsko> RoadHazard: specialized knowledge is usually lucrative
[09:15] <cdubya> sonicreindeer, I was just thinking anyway....I better sign off and try to get some sleep. Good luck
[09:15] <RoadHazard> I also have a t-shirt that says "ask me about old hardware"
[09:15] <bazhang> Ziroda1: is that the 512MB card? I believe the latest drivers on nvidia site now support it
[09:15] <flowOver> most of my boot up's are because of lockups
[09:15] <flowOver> it happens that often
[09:15] <Maimster> Ziroda1 I have the nVidia 6600Utra
[09:15] <ompaul> flowOver, that tends to be a ram issue- try the ram tester
[09:15] <dennisonic> wc
[09:15] <flowOver> i have.  ran it all night long.  no problems
[09:15] <Ziroda1> bazhang: yeah it is, damn I was hoping there was another way around, besides having to install from nvidia.com
[09:16] <vallhalla81> !blackbox
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Maimster> Ziroda1 I left the 8800GTS in the windows box for gaming.
[09:16] <dougsko> RoadHazard: the bummer is that it becomes less relevant over time
[09:16] <flowOver> memtest86
[09:16] <Ayabara> the adobe flash installer fails for firefox-3.0 beta 3. anyone know how to fix this?
[09:16] <sonicreindeer> trust me when i say i have already attempted to load the grub from the live disc to no avail. Since i do have two separate drives in my G4 for obvious reasons( Mac is a bully just like Windows for space ), feisty is on my 40 GB Maxtor. The grub is located in the drive's MBR.
[09:16] <sonicreindeer> Or...was:(
[09:17] <Ziroda1> bazhang: does envy install from the nvidia site?
[09:17] <Maimster> Ziroda1 I just didn't think 640MB was needed to spin a compiz cube.
[09:17] <bazhang> Ziroda1: pm?
[09:17] <flowOver> how can i test the video ram?
[09:17] <Ziroda1> bazhang: no pro
[09:17] <tpyoknig> I need help I moved a file, nautilus says its on the filesystem but doesnt show up under terminal with ls -la or in nautilus
[09:18] <ompaul> flowOver, ignore the video ram
[09:18] <flowOver> that wouldn't cause lockups huh?
[09:18] <archman> hi guys, how to turn off automatic nm connection to any ap's; but not turning off roaming mode?
[09:19] <flowOver> if it's any help.. the last lockup happened when i went to google reader.  while it was loading.
[09:19] <flowOver> as far as i can tell it happens mostly while firefox is open
[09:19] <sonicreindeer> I may have to go back to edgy and perform an upgrade via Software Updates in my Apps menu in Xfce to reinstall Feisty if I am unsuccessful in rebuilding the grub. I've already removed allo f the sys files along with the app/ desktop files for Classic in Jaguar.
[09:19] <RoadHazard> dougsko, theres still a bunch of shops that run cobol, the as400 crowd still run it
[09:20] <ompaul> flowOver, that works or fails never saw an in between option - what you can do is remove the video card if it is a discrete item - after that you will most likely need to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if that stops the problems then you got a video card issue - as for firefox that says it is when the machine is stressed - so you got to look at your ram
[09:20] <sonicreindeer> After sacking those files, I was able to boot back into Jaguar without an issue.
[09:20] <bazhang> ziroda1 you still there?
[09:20] <bazhang> heh guess not
[09:20] <flowOver> running memtest86 overnight isn't sufficient?
[09:21] <dougsko> RoadHazard: im not saying that *no one* uses it. but you have to admit, its use is not exactly on the uprise
[09:21] <Wolff> saluuut !
[09:21] <bazhang> hello Wolff
[09:21] <flowOver> i don't want to but i'm almost willing to reinstall xp.  it's less buggy
[09:21] <Wolff> ca fait deux jours que jme demande comment jvais pouvoir trouver de l'aide a propos d'ubuntu
[09:22] <ompaul> flowOver, be happy with your loss of freedom in that case
[09:22] <Wolff> je débute et j'auaris besoin de quelques petites aide
[09:22] <flowOver> lockup's never happen.  i don't see how it could be my ram when this would never happen on another os
[09:22] <ompaul> !fr | Wolff
[09:22] <ubotu> Wolff: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:22] <bazhang> Wolff: /j #ubuntu-fr ;]
[09:22] <Wolff> a merde
[09:22] <Wolff> :D
[09:22] <bazhang> hehe
[09:22] <Wolff> thx
[09:22] <flowOver> i came to ubuntu because vista was buggy
[09:22] <flowOver> but now ubuntu is more buggy than vista
[09:22] <tpyoknig> :S
[09:22] <flowOver> 2 seperate machine's in this house.  i already wiped it off the other
[09:22] <bazhang> flowOver: cmon give it a rest
[09:23] <dougsko> RoadHazard: its one of those legacy langauges that we'll most likely see in use for much longer than anyone probably should
[09:23] <Ayabara> is there a way to make "Image Viewer" open maximized by default?
[09:23] <sonicreindeer> Cdubya, here are a couple of URLs I have referenced thusfar:  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/powerpc/rescue.html and  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/powerpc/boot-usb-files.html ( Prepping/ Booting from a USB flashdrive and reparing a broken system ).
[09:24] <dougsko> Ayabara: if you use fluxbox as your WM, edit your ~/.fluxbox/apps file
[09:25] <Ayabara> dougsko: ok. I'm using gnome wm.
[09:25] <sonicreindeer> I have attempted to reboot the box only to come up way short from getting close to excercising the recommendations given on the doc links.
[09:25] <sonicreindeer> exercising.
[09:25] <cheesebob> j
[09:25] <dennisonic> ubuntu is the hackers operating system.
[09:26] <dougsko> Ayabara: switch to flux? heh i dont do gnome so thats all i got
[09:26] <bazhang> dennisonic: support question?
[09:26] <Ayabara> dougsko: :-). thanks anyway
[09:27] <sonicreindeer> Would you have a link to the PPC build of gutsy? If so, I'll be willing to give it a shot to see if that will do the trick.
[09:27] <oxigen> hi, where is channel for ubuntu 8.04?
[09:28] <ForsakenSoul> hi i just want to as ... how do I make a file on root with write permissions for the user ?
[09:28] <sonicreindeer> Thx, cdub. nighters.
[09:28] <sarthor> Can i use my Nokia N73 as my Webcam under my gutsy via bluetooth??
[09:28] <ForsakenSoul> ask*
[09:28] <dennisonic> Mambo
[09:28] <JC_Denton_> My apt is broken (error messages here: http://pastebin.org/22761 , http://pastebin.org/22760 ) and apt-get -f install doesn't solve it
[09:28] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 oxigen
[09:28] <dennisonic> vipi
[09:28] <dougsko> Ayabara: if you dont end up finding a good solution, you might want to consider checking out flux. its extremely configurable, and awesome :s
[09:28] <icesword> ! vdi
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <oxigen> bazhang: thanks
[09:28] <sonicreindeer> Any other takers out there for the PPC bootloader issue?
[09:28] <dougsko> ForsakenSoul: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3127/
[09:28] <Ayabara> dougsko: I'll remember that. Right now I'm trying too see if I can fix it with a compiz window rule
[09:29] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-powerpc.iso sonicreindeer
[09:29] <dougsko> Ayabara: i hear ya. when you trade in eye candy for functionality, lemme know
[09:30] <dougsko> 'night yall
[09:30] <bazhang> cya dougsko
[09:30] <Maimster> cya
[09:30] <Maimster> I'm about to do the same...
[09:30] <sonicreindeer> Right on, bizhang. Kudos all the way, man. I am forever indebted to your help. I'll let you know how the link works out( if I don't fall asleep first ).
[09:30] <bazhang> hehe
[09:33] <sonicreindeer> Here's a question, bazhang. Where did y'all find that link. I thought the main community killed all s'pport for the PPC architecture a month or so after Gutsy's release?
[09:33] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/ sonicreindeer plus teh google ;]
[09:34] <eth01> what a bizzare /part message
[09:34] <eth01> lollo.
[09:34] <bazhang> not really the channel for that eth01
[09:35] <bluecake> http://rafb.net/p/I2uNDm51.html  help
[09:35] <bazhang> oh sorry eth01
[09:35] <eth01> bazhang, "not really the channel for that" shush.
[09:35] <eth01> welcome to my ignore list :)
[09:35] <JC_Denton_> How does one fix one's apt? (error messages here:  http://pastebin.org/22761 , http://pastebin.org/22760 )
[09:35] <RoadHazard> wow, smackdown
[09:35] <bazhang> heh
[09:35] <eth01> yup, its the way to be.
[09:36] <sigp239> 8.04 Alpha 6 will not work on my computer
[09:36] <bazhang> said I'm sorry ;[
[09:36] <sonicreindeer> I've been bustin' my chops all bloody day and eve locating the darned link on the Ubuntu site. I'm not complaiining. Just wondering why s'pport was dropped from the community( ie; documentation, man pages, etc. ). Makes me wonder.
[09:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that sigp239 thanks ;]
[09:37] <sonicreindeer> When will PPC s'pport be reactivated, if at all?
[09:37] <eth01> it won't
[09:38] <jim> how do I change default port settings in evolution ?
[09:38] <sonicreindeer> Anyway, amny thx to ya, bazhang. I'm out. Nighters.
[09:38] <archman> can someone help?
[09:38] <bazhang> cya sonicreindeer
[09:38] <bazhang> ask away archman
[09:39] <archman> bazhang: how to make networkmanager not to auto-connect on login?
[09:39] <archman> don't want to turn off roaming
[09:40] <marat> Hi all! I have a problem with Wacom Bamboo on Hardy.. Can somebody help me? Please..
[09:40] <cromag> specify the question and it will be easier to tell.
[09:40] <bazhang> archman: I have always had trouble with network manager; I tend to just use the cli for that
[09:40] <sarthor> Can i use my Nokia N73 as my Webcam under my gutsy via bluetooth??
[09:41] <archman> bazhang: can't find it on add/remove; is cli full name?
[09:41] <marat> So, ubuntu mount wacom as /dev/input/mouse4.. it don't want plug it as /dev/input/wacom
[09:41] <c_sokun> just finished Hardy Alpha 6 installation
[09:41] <cromag> !cli
[09:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:42] <c_sokun> cool, only one problem with location selection
[09:42] <c_sokun> :D
[09:42] <bazhang> archman: sorry I just use the terminal (command line) to do that--I usually remove network-manager right away and then just do it via the command line
[09:42] <jonathan2> yes hello #ubuntu
[09:42] <jonathan2> say hell0 johnny silv
[09:42] <jonathan2> we best friends
[09:42] <jonathan2> me n ubuntu
[09:42] <jonathan2> thats my n*gga
[09:42] <bazhang> c_sokun: #ubuntu+1 for that please ;]
[09:43] <c_sokun> bazhang: thx :)
[09:43] <marat> I was install all drivers and I setup xorg.conf.. but my wacom doesn't work.. please help, guys
[09:43] <jonathan2> marat: wacom what
[09:43] <jonathan2> tablet?
[09:43] <RoadHazard> evil modems
[09:43] <marat> yep, bamboo A5
[09:43] <jonathan2> okay
[09:44] <bazhang> jonathan2: watch the language please
[09:44] <jonathan2> did you follow a guide
[09:44] <jonathan2> bazhang: this amrika i say what i want!!!! YAH YAH
[09:44] <bazhang> !ops | jonathan2
[09:44] <ubotu> jonathan2: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[09:44] <jonathan2> gaurdz
[09:44] <marat> yes, I also have a graphire4 at ubuntu 7.10 and it work great
[09:44] <jonathan2> plz evict this helpful man
[09:44] <jonathan2> come on dude
[09:45] <Linux_Fresher> i am running ubuntu in vmware in windows xp pro sp2
[09:45] <jonathan2> Linux_Fresher: that's pretty chill
[09:45] <jonathan2> like a little OS in an aquarium
[09:46] <jonathan2> okay i'm officially sorry for my language
[09:46] <jonathan2> i won't sass any more on my honor
[09:46] <cromag> not just an alpha excuse ?
[09:46] <kloeri> jonathan2: please watch your language and stick to channel topic
[09:46] <jonathan2> please please
[09:46] <jonathan2> okay letz focus
[09:46] <archman> when i try to enter passphrase in wifi-radar, do i have to enter ascii or?
[09:46] <sarthor> Can i use my Nokia N73 as my Webcam under my gutsy via bluetooth??
[09:46] <jonathan2> time 2 skin irssi
[09:47] <Ayabara> If I open a pic in a folder with eog, it will do it's best to show me 100% zoom level, but if I press pgDn to get to the a bigger image, the eog window stays the same size. is there a way to make it resize itself?
[09:49] <bullgard4> Synaptic says: "The GNOME 2 Session Manager: The DEB program package 'gnome-session' contains an X11-compliant 'session manager' (similar to xsm) with GNOME extensions. When you log out, the session manager will save the state of all your GNOME 2 apps. When you log back in, the session manager will restore your session." Is the Ubuntu session manager the file /usr/bin/gnome-session or what file?
[09:49] <archman> ?
[09:50] <Maimster> I can't keep my eyes open any longer...   Take care guys....
[09:50] <eth01> likewise
[09:54] <synth> hmm, how can I get lvm's mapper to create the new device names instantly?
[09:54] <naut> Where do you go to find source packages for ubuntu?
[09:54] <synth> apt-src
[09:55] <naut> synth, ty
[09:55] <synth> you have to apt-get that and its kinda like apt-get
[09:55] <eth01> sudo apt-src *
[09:55] <RoadHazard> thats sort of a catch22
[09:55] <naut> heh
[09:55] <naut> what package is apt-src in
[09:56] <naut> it is a package, is see
[09:56] <bwayne_> wouldn't apt-get --src pull it in?
[09:57] <eth01> E: Command line option --src is not understood
[09:57] <patrickva> What should I install grub on if I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a USB external hdd?
[09:57] <eth01> in reply to your failing answer
[09:57] <bwayne_> patrickva: install it on the partition itself.
[09:57] <eth01> patrickva, hdd? :D
[09:57] <synth> phew.. md found my almost lost raid
[09:58] <patrickva> Eh, whatever.
[09:58] <synth> gota reboot for lvm tho
[09:58] <patrickva> Well I can bwayne.
[09:58] <bazhang> naut: try apt-cache search source and look there or search in synaptic; if you mean the sources libraries then that is enabling them in the repos
[09:58] <eth01> patrickva, whatever? isn't that that moody teenagers say?
[09:58] <patrickva> But it wants to install a bootloader on hd0
[09:58] <eth01> what, even
[09:58] <vallhalla81> !medi
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <patrickva> I'm just afriad that it'll mess up my internal hard drive.
[09:59] <vallhalla81> !meadi
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meadi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <pro-rsoft> Hi all
[09:59] <patrickva> Or the master boot record.
[09:59] <bwayne_> patrickva:  the most it'll do is overwrite your MBR, which can be easily replaced.
[09:59] <pro-rsoft> What are the requirements for a package to enter the repositories?
[09:59] <anthony_sch> hello! I have a problem - I have 3 diffirent linux distros + now I installed 1 Windows XP (i need some progs for work there). And - windows just deleted my GRUB and now I can't access my linux! How can I recover my GRUB now in Windows???
[09:59] <anthony_sch> Thanks in advance!
[10:00] <bazhang> vallhalla81: what are you looking for
[10:00] <bwayne_> patrickva: your problem is, how're you going to your comp there's a boot slice on your thumb drive.
[10:00] <bazhang> !grub | anthony_sch
[10:00] <ubotu> anthony_sch: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:00] <bwayne_> anthony_sch: google super grub disc.
[10:00] <synth> anthony_sch, boot from a Linux cd, one that can see your first hard drive, and grub-install /dev/harddrive
[10:00] <vallhalla81> bazhang:  its a list of media pakages now in ubuntu standard
[10:01] <anthony_sch> bazhang: thanks once again! The 3rd time :)
[10:01] <bazhang> !google | bwayne_
[10:01] <ubotu> bwayne_: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[10:01] <joeytwiddle> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=|+bwayne_
[10:01] <vallhalla81> bazhang:  sorry should read not in ubuntu
[10:01] <bazhang> vallhalla81: you mean medibuntu? or ubuntu-restricted-extras? not sure there sorry
[10:01] <bwayne_> bazhang: that's so gay.
[10:02] <vallhalla81> ubuntu medical or somthin like that
[10:02] <vallhalla81> medibuntu thankyou
[10:02] <bazhang> bwayne_: pm please?
[10:02] <vallhalla81> !medibuntu
[10:02] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:03] <vallhalla81> bazhang:  thank you
[10:03] <bazhang> sure vallhalla81 ;]
[10:05] <chhinmayzen> guys i'm having probs installing wine..
[10:05] <chhinmayzen> http://pastebin.ca/933442
[10:05] <talonz> i cant seem to connect to msn through pidgin or any other chat client but it was working fine yesterday
[10:05] <patrickva> Guys, I'm having a problem with my erection..
[10:06] <chhinmayzen> er..
[10:06] <patrickva> o hai
[10:06] <chhinmayzen> hw
[10:06] <chhinmayzen> hei
[10:06] <funda3> does the ubuntu livedvd come with the binary nvidia/ati drivers?
[10:07] <chhinmayzen> patrickva do u think u konw this thing here http://pastebin.ca/933442
[10:07] <troxor> has anyone else noticed the current hardy background looks like the heron's throat's been slit?
[10:08] <dsargeant> funda3: no
[10:08] <troxor> it's a really neat image, but the bleeding jugular doesn't look reassuring ;)
[10:08] <patrickva> Nah trollboy
[10:08] <patrickva> uh troxor
[10:08] <pro-rsoft> Where can I request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:08] <troxor> the red doesn't look like blood?
[10:09] <troxor> in an abstract way
[10:09] <vallhalla81> !oftopic
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oftopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <pro-rsoft> !offtopic |vallhalla81
[10:09] <ubotu> vallhalla81: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:09] <Ayabara> is there a good image viewer with a bit more options than eog out there?
[10:09] <chhinmayzen> http://pastebin.ca/933442
[10:09] <vallhalla81> thankyou
[10:09] <chhinmayzen> :(
[10:09] <pro-rsoft> Ayabara, there is, gThumb
[10:09] <vallhalla81> i just cant type today :)
[10:09] <pro-rsoft> Ayabara, gThumb is by default installed in ubuntu
[10:09] <RoadHazard> xaralx
[10:10] <boris_> hey, i wanna transfer file from my brothers computer (with ubuntu ) in a home network to my computer in a home network
[10:10] <pro-rsoft> Guys, Where can I request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:10] <dsargeant> funda3: actually, i'm not sure about the nvidia, but the restricted ati doesn't
[10:10] <boris_> pls guide me how to do it
[10:10] <boris_> !share
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <chhinmayzen> i cant install wine, it's sayin some packages have unmet dependnces
[10:10] <boris_> !sharing
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <RoadHazard> boris are they on dhcp or static>?
[10:10] <boris_> dhcp
[10:11] <funda3> dsargent: is there a distro that does?
[10:11] <boris_> i tried right clicking and Share folder
[10:11] <cpk1> boris_: are they both using linux?
[10:11] <boris_> yes
[10:11] <RoadHazard> as long as you know the ip addy just install proftpd and ftp it over
[10:11] <cpk1> boris_: you could also scp it if it is just one file
[10:11] <boris_> something more simple ?
[10:11] <boris_> its 1 folder i wanna share
[10:12] <dsargeant> funda3: sorry, no
[10:12] <boris_> let me ask it this way : is it simple to set up ? im in a hurry
[10:12] <RoadHazard> you want to share it on an ongoing basis?
[10:12] <boris_> ?
[10:12] <chhinmayzen> http://pastebin.ca/933443
[10:12] <funda3> dsargent: thanks
[10:12] <pro-rsoft> Guys, Where can I request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:12] <boris_> i just wanna transfer it between 2 computers
[10:12] <RoadHazard> sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:12] <brainfish> http://mansur.in
[10:12] <RoadHazard> install in standalone
[10:12] <chhinmayzen> oops this is the one.. http://pastebin.ca/933443 .. guys i'm in real shit..
[10:13] <cpk1> well in kde you can just right click a folder and share it and then bam its ready to go
[10:13] <RoadHazard> then from the donor computer just put ftp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with the x's being the ip addy of the recipient, itll ask you for a username and password and there ya go
[10:13] <boris_> RoadHazard: i only wanna transfer file once
[10:13] <pro-rsoft> Guys, Where can I request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:14] <boris_> RoadHazard: what ?
[10:14] <RoadHazard> ok 1: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:14] <boris_> RoadHazard: my IP is 192.168.100.20, his is 192.168.100.14
[10:14] <RoadHazard> 2: open a browser on the donor computer
[10:14] <boris_> donor ?
[10:15] <boris_> i wanna transfer a file from his to mine computer
[10:15] <archman>  when i try to enter passphrase in wifi-radar, do i have to enter ascii or?
[10:15] <RoadHazard> 3 in the address bar put in ftp://192.168,100.14
[10:16] <pro-rsoft> Guys, Where can I request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:16] <Ayabara> pro-rsoft: better, but still lacks the option I want, which is to resize the viewer window if I browse to an image that is bigger than the last one
[10:16] <RoadHazard> actually would it be easier to get it then send it?
[10:16] <boris_> ?
[10:16] <pro-rsoft> Ayabara, try f-spot. not sure though
[10:16] <Ayabara> pro-rsoft: thanks for the tip
[10:16] <pro-rsoft> yw
[10:17] <pro-rsoft> Nobody knows where I can request a package to be added to the repo's ?
[10:17] <archman>  when i try to enter passphrase in wifi-radar, do i have to enter ascii or?
[10:17] <pro-rsoft> !hardy
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[10:17] <boris_> RoadHazard: tnx, did it
[10:17] <dsargeant> pro-rsoft: you could start at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <pro-rsoft> okay thanks
[10:17] <RoadHazard> it workie?
[10:17] <RoadHazard> boris?
[10:18] <boris_> yes
[10:18] <boris_> it works
[10:18] <_6StringKng_> how do I remove the mounted hdd icon from my desktop?  I can't remember how, I know I did it through some config editor...just cant remember the exact name
[10:18] <RoadHazard> you will probably wanna uninstall that after youre done
[10:18] <boris_> RoadHazard: thank you for your help. i will uninstall it after it's done
[10:18] <jwdnho> hi
[10:18] <RoadHazard> no problemo,
[10:19] <boris_> 10658 KB/sec :)
[10:19] <jwdnho> RoadHazar: get the fuck out of this channel
[10:19] <jwdnho> RoadHazar: go fuck yo mama
[10:19] <archman> where is the wifi-radar conf file stored?
[10:19] <jwdnho> archman: i got a hardon for your mama
[10:19] <jwdnho> archman: i have a hardon for your mama
[10:19] <bazhang> !ops | jwdnho
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[10:19] <Ayabara> pro-rsoft: the fullscreen rule in compiz made my day, so now both eog and gthumb are good enough for me :-)
[10:19] <brainfish>  Forum for Linux newbies .... http://mansur.in
[10:20] <pro-rsoft> Ayabara: kewl
[10:20] <Ayabara> that's what I thought too ;)
[10:20] <Flynsarmy> What happened to gmail-notify plugin? It used to have so many options but now it has close to none
[10:20] <Flynsarmy> application, not plugin
[10:21] <archman> jwdnho: fuck off, motherfucking asshole
[10:21] <bazhang> language archman
[10:21] <bazhang> archman he got kicked
[10:21] <archman> bazhang: ok, thanks
[10:22] <bazhang> and banned ;]
[10:22] <Gary> archman: dealt with, please move on, thanks :-)
[10:22] <archman> bazhang: do you know where are confs of nm-applet and wifi-radar
[10:22] <archman> ?
[10:23] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: have you tried checkgmail? don't know if it has more options, but I like it better than gmail-notify
[10:23] <bazhang> archman: heh, well I hate to say this but wicd always gave the best gui not sure about the confs of those sorry not to help
[10:23] <theunixgeek> Is there such thing as a secondary partition?
[10:23] <archman> bazhang: ok, tnx, i'll try...
[10:24] <etfb> Firefox is crashing a lot when I have Flash videos running (eg YouTube).  Any suggestions for bug fixes?
[10:24] <bazhang> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ archman
[10:24] <Flynsarmy> Ayabara: That's the one! thanks :)
[10:25] <archman> bazhang: got it already, thanks
[10:25] <dsargeant> pro-rsoft: you can also file a bug at bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ set importance to wishlist and give it a needs-packaging tag
[10:26] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: np. I think you need to install the latest from svn instead of the repo one, because some authentication stuff on the gmail server has changed. see the bottom of this post: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599547
[10:27] <Moshe> hi my swap is broken
[10:27] <Flynsarmy> Ayabara: Thanks for the info. I'd just installed it and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't accept my password
[10:28] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: I live to serve ;-)
[10:28] <archman> bazhang: i have to remove nm and wifi-radar ?  :-( :-(
[10:28] <Moshe> !ops | Flynsarmy
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[10:28] <Moshe> !ops | archman
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[10:28] <bazhang> Moshe: why?
[10:28] <Moshe> !ops | bazhang
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[10:28] <Moshe> just like that
[10:28] <Gary> Moshe: ???
[10:28] <Gary> why!
[10:28] <cpk1> haha
[10:29] <cpk1> lively in here tonight eh?
[10:29] <theunixgeek> What's Moshe doing?
[10:29] <bazhang> going off it seems
[10:30] <theunixgeek> That Moshe was from Iran.
[10:30] <theunixgeek> creepy
[10:31] <bazhang> archman: the FAQ says yes--> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=faq
[10:31] <Flynsarmy> Ayabara: I tried that wget line in the code provided but it says wget doesn't support wildcards
[10:31] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: let me test it here
[10:32] <KEBA> ive installd a new nvidia driver, how can i check that THIS driver will load the next boot time
[10:32] <bazhang> KEBA: how did you install it please
[10:33] <fismoll8> hey guys--using ubuntu gutsy, and trying to delete a half gig directory from my backup hard drive. However, it is taking a very long time to do so. I typed in rm -r <name of directory> and after 2 hours it is still going. Is this normal?
[10:33] <Flynsarmy> Ayabara: Nevermind. I copy-pasted rather than typing it in myself and it worked. Must have just made a typo.
[10:33] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: works here with wget 1.10.2
[10:33] <Ayabara> Flynsarmy: ah. good :-)
[10:33] <JC_Denton_> How does one fix one's apt? (error messages here:  http://pastebin.org/22761 , http://pastebin.org/22760 )
[10:34] <archman> bazhang: any other manager you can recommend?
[10:35] <bazhang> archman: well if those three fail you might consider the command line
[10:35] <Mitsiku> i really need some help please
[10:35] <bazhang> ask please Mitsiku
[10:36] <RoadHazard> what seems to be the problem?
[10:36] <Mitsiku>  tired a live version of ubuntu on my laptop and then near the end there was an x server problem
[10:36] <Mitsiku> tried
[10:36] <loca|host> what does the /dev/mapper/rootfs stand for ? used to ?
[10:36] <RoadHazard> get the alternative cd
[10:37] <Mitsiku> wat you mean?
[10:37] <Mitsiku> it is and acer
[10:37] <bazhang> Mitsiku: aye that would be a good choice
[10:37] <Lartza_> i cant get any music to amarok collection
[10:37] <cpk1> Mitsiku: X server is huge. with an actual error we might be able to help you
[10:38] <archman> bazhang: any tutorial you got for me to learn that? some link?
[10:38] <Mitsiku> that was like version 5 ubuntu
[10:38] <macogw> version 5?
[10:38] <Mitsiku> yah, found an old disk
[10:38] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: did you try ftp:_ftp.lfs-matrix.net_pub_lfs-livecd_ like it said?
[10:38] <bazhang> archman: with what encryption or all?
[10:38] <macogw> Mitsiku: the 5th one was edgy
[10:39] <archman> bazhand: wep encryption
[10:39] <Mitsiku> two more questions, will ubuntu work on all computers?
[10:39] <bazhang> I think he means 5.10
[10:39] <archman> bazhang: wep encryption
[10:39] <macogw> bazhang: thatd only be #2
[10:39] <bazhang> archman: hang on
[10:39] <archman> bazhang: tnx
[10:39] <bazhang> macogw: just guessing ;]
[10:39] <RoadHazard> define "all computers"
[10:40] <macogw> bazhang: he could also mean warty though...itd make more sense since warty had a 0 after the ., albeit followed by a a 4
[10:40] <Mitsiku> all computers that are origanally installed with windows
[10:40] <macogw> Mitsiku: not if you use dialup
[10:40] <macogw> Mitsiku: winmodems are evil
[10:40] <macogw> Mitsiku: it should work on *most* though
[10:40] <RoadHazard> ubuntu will run on justabout anything pentium 1 and up of the intel flavor
[10:40] <Mitsiku> i got wireless
[10:40] <macogw> Mitsiku: you might need to install wireless drivers after you install ubuntu
[10:40] <Lartza_> does ubuntu run on mac?
[10:41] <Lartza_> bootcamp?
[10:41] <cpk1> Mitsiku: you can get most wireless cards to work
[10:41] <RoadHazard> it will, but why?
[10:41] <Mitsiku> last question, wat program can i get on ubutu to run windows programes
[10:41] <Lartza_> Mitsiku: wine
[10:41] <JC_Denton_> fraid your comment got lost on me cpk1, your link is broken too
[10:41] <RoadHazard> wine, cedega, or crossover
[10:41] <cpk1> or cedega or crossover
[10:41] <Lartza_> you need to add the repository though
[10:41] <Mitsiku> thanks. btw where is ubuntu based?which country?
[10:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 ultimate how to archman ;]
[10:42] <Lartza_> ubuntu is debian based
[10:42] <isaac> uhm, just dist-upgraded on hardy and I can't no longer login with my user, gnome-panel freezes without loading most applets
[10:42] <isaac> and every gnome app freezes before actually doing anything useful
[10:42] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: my bad wrong paste =P
[10:42] <isaac> but everything works with a new user
[10:42] <bazhang> isaac: #ubuntu+1 please
[10:42] <isaac> any idea?
[10:42] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: meant to say apt-get -f install
[10:42] <isaac> bazhang: oh, ok, sorry
[10:42] <Lartza_> isaac: Donät excpect much from alpha
[10:42] <Mitsiku> i stay in South Africa
[10:43] <isaac> Lartza_: I know what to expect from an alpha :)
[10:43] <bazhang> hehe
[10:43] <archman> bazhang: thanks ;-)
[10:43] <Lartza_> new bugs and features
[10:43] <RoadHazard> alpha as in testing or alpha as in dec?
[10:43] <bazhang> archman: no worries and come back if it looks like gibberish ;]
[10:43] <Mitsiku> the word ubuntu doesnt have a proper english word for it
[10:43] <Lartza_> dont know
[10:43] <Lartza_> ubuntu is an african word
[10:43] <Mitsiku> yes, i live in africa
[10:44] <Mitsiku> South Africa
[10:44] <Lartza_> ubuntu means humanity to others :D
[10:44] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 no, apt-get -f install doesn't fix it, I'm afraid
[10:44] <Mitsiku> not directly
[10:44] <Lartza_> reads in the cd case :P
[10:44] <Mitsiku> it hasnt got a proper translation
[10:44] <Lartza_> well "humanity to others"
[10:44] <Lartza_> says the cd
[10:44] <jpatrick> !ot | Mitsiku
[10:44] <ubotu> Mitsiku: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:44] <Mitsiku> Thats wat people say but if you know it doesnt have a proper english translation
[10:45] <Lartza_> CD know the truth! :D
[10:45] <Mitsiku> CD lies
[10:45] <jpatrick> ubotu lies
[10:45] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[10:45] <archman> bazhang: i'm used to terminal, i love it; i'll be no problems; thanks for the great support !!!
[10:45] <Mitsiku> ubuntu means sortof that : we are who we are because of all other people
[10:45] <Lartza_> Don't... questimate(?) the power of the cd cases! :P
[10:46] <Lartza_> Don't... questimate(?) the power of the cd cases! :POr wisdom of the cd cases
[10:46] <Mitsiku> thats still not a proper translation though
[10:46] <Mitsiku> btw im white all
[10:46] <Lartza_> ?
[10:46] <Lartza_> oh right
[10:47] <Mitsiku> well most people asume because i live in africa im black
[10:47] <prince_jammys> south africa ....
[10:47] <Mitsiku> yah South Africa
[10:47] <Lartza_> wel maybe you should say i have moved to africa
[10:47] <Mitsiku> i havent moved
[10:47] <Lartza_> !
[10:47] <Mitsiku> i was born here
[10:47] <Lartza_> my bad :)
[10:48] <prince_jammys> then most people don't know much about south africa
[10:48] <JC_Denton_> I never met a white person in South Africa but that's misleading b/c I've never been there
[10:48] <Mitsiku> South Africa is mostly white due to the "dark aparthied days"
[10:48] <Lartza_> well someone of your family HAS moved though
[10:48] <Lartza_> I know it's in south Africa
[10:48] <JC_Denton_> cpk1: this is what happens when I run -f install : http://pastebin.org/22840
[10:48] <Mitsiku> No, dont you guys know yur history. South Africa used to be run by whites
[10:49] <Mitsiku> Btw are iMacs good?
[10:49] <JC_Denton_> The British and the Dutch had 2 wars over there, middle 1800's and end of the 19th century
[10:49] <Lartza_> I don.t know much about Africas history
[10:49] <Mitsiku> YAY.WAY TO GO JC
[10:49] <JC_Denton_> I read, sometimes :)
[10:49] <Mitsiku> lol
[10:49] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | South Africa and other countries
[10:49] <ubotu> South Africa and other countries: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:50] <Lartza_> What are the countries runned by British, I'm not english and from my country they would be "movelands"
[10:50] <Lartza_> i mean word to ford translation
[10:50] <Mitsiku> well, We dont ride elephants and live in huts in this country. only the inlanders
[10:50] <Javid> oh god offtopic time to have a hisdy
[10:50] <Mitsiku> We got great cities
[10:50] <Lartza_> like you would translate ambu and the lance
[10:50] <Hobbsee> Lartza_: #ubuntu-offtopic is probably a better place for this :)
[10:50] <Stuar[T]> Javid: kose nanat
[10:50] <prince_jammys> if by "most people" you mean 10 percent of the population, then yeah South Africa is "mostly" white
[10:50] <Mitsiku> ambu and lance?
[10:50] <Lartza_> or maybe not :P
[10:50] <Stuar[T]> Javid: kose nanat
[10:50] <Lartza_> what were countries callled?
[10:50] <archman> btw; my compiz-config settings manager is VERY buggy
[10:51] <Mitsiku> wtf, it ant 10%
[10:51] <JC_Denton_> And Zimbabwe used to be Rhodesia, their army had a pretty good reputation for their skills.. also there was the Rhodesian SAS..
[10:51] <Stuar[T]> Javid: kose nanat
[10:51] <Lartza_> slaves and was runt by british german and france
[10:51] <Lartza_> leopold II etc
[10:51] <Mitsiku> it like 30%
[10:51] <prince_jammys> 9.2 % actually
[10:51] <lordleemo> Lartza_: commonwealth
[10:51] <Javid> Stuar[T], what
[10:51] <prince_jammys> according to census
[10:51] <Stuar[T]> !ops | Lartza_
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[10:51] <Stuar[T]> !ops | prince_jammys
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[10:51] <Hobbsee> Stuar[T]: yes, i know.
[10:51] <Mitsiku> census probably wrong, they can never do that stuff right
[10:51] <jougukny_> thought this was a support channel
[10:51] <RoadHazard> hey, who set us up the bomb?
[10:51] <Javid> haha.
[10:52] <Lartza_> not commonwealth
[10:52] <jpatrick> !ot
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[10:52] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: it looks like all those -sharp packages are causing the problems
[10:52] <SlayerFaith> !madwifi
[10:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:52] <Stuar[T]> Javid: prophet Muhammad/Zarathustra sucks dick
[10:52] <Stuar[T]> Javid: prophet Muhammad/Zarathustra sucks dick
[10:52] <Stuar[T]> !ops | Javid
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[10:52] <Javid> what
[10:52] <Mitsiku> hey
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Javid: offtopic.  please don't ignore the warnings.
[10:52] <Javid> ..ooook
[10:53] <Hobbsee> Javid: (a whole bunch got kicked)
[10:53] <Mitsiku> wat warnings?
[10:53] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 I would be happy to remove them but seeing as apt is broken I don't get very far
[10:53] <Javid> oh god no, not an intelligent conversation! get the hose!
[10:53] <Hobbsee> [21:49] <ubotu> South Africa and other countries: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:53] <Mitsiku> oooooh
[10:53] <_6StringKng_> what software could I use to manage my MP3 player in Ubuntu 7.10?  its a Sansa c240 btw
[10:53] <Hobbsee> Mitsiku: the ones in the chat.  if you'd read them, it would help you
[10:53] <Mitsiku> lol
[10:53] <Mitsiku> ok
[10:53] <Javid> i want to know why that guy was saying nonsense at me.
[10:53] <Mitsiku> will ubuntu run on acer aspire
[10:53] <Javid> meh.
[10:54] <nonix4> Mitsiku: boots on most of them at least...
[10:54] <Seveas> Javid, because he's a troll. He's banned now so ignore :)
[10:54] <Mitsiku> because a live version of ubuntu 5.10 doesnt want to
[10:54] <Hobbsee> Mitsiku: that's kinda old now...
[10:54] <Hobbsee> Mitsiku: tha'ts unsupported, too
[10:54] <Lartza_> i cant create collection in amarok
[10:54] <_6StringKng_> hmmm, ever think of trying 7.10?
[10:54] <Mitsiku> it comes with this dum xserever
[10:54] <Mitsiku> error
[10:55] <Mitsiku> i ordered the disk'
[10:55] <RoadHazard> what error would that be?
[10:55] <PalmER> Javid: I got a hardon for prophet Muhammad's daughter (Fatima Zahra)
[10:55] <jougukny_> nooby wants to know the format of this media......[time] i get it........<nick> i get that too
[10:55] <Mitsiku> something bout graphics
[10:55] <jougukny_> what's with the BOLD
[10:55] <pajamian> Mitsiku: 5.10 is pretty old, over two years old in fact.  I'm sure 7.10 would run much better.
[10:55] <Hobbsee> note to all people in the channel - don't bother spamming, or saying random crap, when the are ops watching.
[10:55] <Mitsiku> k
[10:55] <jougukny_> and the colours with ip #s
[10:55] <Lartza_> Sorry(last offtopic): Mitsiku: the word was colony :D
[10:55] <_6StringKng_> MP3 player help anyone?
[10:55] <Lartza_> i cant create collection in amarok
[10:55] <RoadHazard> ...random crap?
[10:56] <Mitsiku> how many cd's can i order?
[10:56] <Javid> i think the troll thinks i'm a sand person.
[10:56] <Hobbsee> RoadHazard: like the one that just got banned
[10:56] <Mitsiku> i want to order about 20 so i can spread
[10:56] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: apt wont let you remove them either? neither will aptitude?
[10:56] <RoadHazard> oh I see
[10:56] <pajamian> Mitsiku: you don'thave a CD burner?
[10:56] <Mitsiku> y?
[10:56] <RoadHazard> lartza what is causing you the difficulty?
[10:56] <Mitsiku> i do
[10:57] <pajamian> Mitsiku: why not download the ISO and bur your own?
[10:57] <Mitsiku> but lets just say internet a bit slow in South Africa
[10:57] <Mitsiku> the fastest here is about 3 mb/s a second
[10:57] <Lartza_> RoadHazard: You mean with AmaroK? I jsut can't create collection
[10:57] <Seveas> Mitsiku, it's still faster than waiting for a cd ;)
[10:57] <_6StringKng_> I have 1.5Mbps...fastest where I live, wish they had like I dunno 15, lol
[10:58] <pajamian> Mitsiku: ahhh, ok, well if you don't want to download the ISO I would recommend ordering one disk and copying it.
[10:58] <jamil_11020429> is their any thing like Task manager in ubuntu ?
[10:58] <Lartza_> Mitsiku: I have a 512kb internet
[10:58] <jougukny_> so what are the BOLD names in the conversation?  and what are the coloured domains and ip addresses
[10:58] <Mitsiku> not really hey. its not like im in a hurry for it anyway
[10:58] <Seveas> jamil_11020429, system -> admin -> system monitor
[10:58] <_6StringKng_> and yes, the cds you can get for free take forever, I've gotten some long after I've forgotten about them, lol
[10:58] <Lartza_> i cant create collection in amarok
[10:58] <Mitsiku> it just gana be a second os on another partition
[10:59] <Mitsiku> wenzani kusasa?
[10:59] <mettao87> hi
[10:59] <MohammadBoozary> Hi All
[10:59] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 errors encountered when tyring to remove the -sharp packages : http://pastebin.org/22841
[10:59] <pajamian> Mitsiku: there are also outfits that you can pay a small fee to (like 5 or 10 USD) and they will mail you a CD much faster than the one you get for free from Ubuntu.
[10:59] <MohammadBoozary> what is all GTK+ packages for GTK programing in ubuntu? pleas help me
[10:59] <Mitsiku> 10 usd = 70rand kinda cheap
[11:00] <Mitsiku> yah maybe i will
[11:00] <RoadHazard> heck,  send me ten bucks, I'll burn you one
[11:00] <jamil_11020429> Seveas  how can i associate system moniter with alt+ctrl+del keys as in windows ?
[11:00] <spark_> hey guys
[11:00] <Seveas> MohammadBoozary, you wnat libgtk2.0-dev and build-essential
[11:00] <jougukny_> Hello MohammadBoozary
[11:00] <Lartza_> what would be a good music player with eq and a library like amarok and rhythmbox
[11:00] <Seveas> jamil_11020429, dunno, it's probably written somewhere on help.ubuntu.com :)
[11:00] <pajamian> Mitsiku: again, I would recommend you either dl the ISO and burn your own, or buy one CD and copy it.
[11:00] <RoadHazard> amarok, or rhythmbox
[11:01] <Mitsiku> an iMac here costs 13 000 rand = 1857USD
[11:01] <_6StringKng_> anyone know of a program I can use to manage my MP3 player?  when I plug it in, it says unabled to retreive data or something like that
[11:01] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: you could try to satisfy apt by installing all those depends and then trying to remove them later?
[11:01] <Mitsiku> is that cheap?
[11:01] <Lartza_> RoadHazard: rhythmbox doesnt have eq and amarok stopped working
[11:01] <RoadHazard> define stopped working
[11:01] <MohammadBoozary> Seveas: ThanQ :)
[11:01] <Seveas> Mitsiku, this is an ubuntu support channel, not a mac sales help channel
[11:01] <jamil_11020429> Seveas: ok
[11:01] <Lartza_> Can't create collection
[11:01] <Mitsiku> ok
[11:01] <Mitsiku> just asking
[11:01] <Lartza_> all mysql settings right
[11:01] <RoadHazard> and what kind of error is it giving you?
[11:02] <Lartza_> and server and database exist
[11:02] <trentster> hey all, bit of a strange problem,, probably something really simple....I am running combiz all is working well except for the little windows that shows the workspaces on the bottom right, dont show the open windows on each desktop, it just is black, and if I click on it, it shows all the windows. Also when I launch any program it is automatically minimized...any ideas?
[11:02] <Lartza_> nothing
[11:02] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 How would I install those when apt is broken?
[11:02] <Mitsiku> how about a sell yourself channel
[11:02] <Seveas> trentster, try #compiz if nobody in here knows
[11:02] <Mitsiku> lol
[11:02] <bazhang> Mitsiku: offtopic
[11:02] <Lartza_> It starts to search music from selected folders and finishes
[11:02] <Lartza_> but doesnt make collection
[11:02] <bod_> hey guys, got a major problem,.,. i have ubuntu gutsy installed on 1 of my hard drives, i then installed windows (*sigh*) for gaming, however now i cannot boot my ubuntu drive, i get an error message saying "Error with Operating System" ive tried disconnecting the windows HD and i still get this error, plz help
[11:03] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: because hopefully that will fix it
[11:03] <RoadHazard> xp or vista?
[11:03] <RoadHazard> bod?
[11:03] <Seveas> !grub > bod_
[11:03] <pajamian> bod_: you need to boot to the live CD and run grub_install
[11:04] <bod_> pajamian, is that a terminal command? or a program?
[11:04] <Lartza_> is there any musci player like amarok and rhythmbox?
[11:04] <spark_> hey guys, got a problem with my soundcard. since yesterday it doesn't play 5.1 sound anymore. i got a terratec aureon fun 5.1.. ages ago i solved this prob with a asound.conf. anyone can help me?#
[11:04] <trentster> Seveas: thanks
[11:04] <Seveas> Lartza_, there's a player called listen
[11:04] <Odo> hi folks
[11:04] <Lartza_> Seveas: Does it ahve an EQ and a library? iPod playing support?
[11:04] <Laughed> Bid its a boot loader / program
[11:04] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 , I'm convinced your solution will work , but seeing as apt breaks on any install I'm not sure on how to proceed installing those packages
[11:04] <bod_> pajamian, or an option before live cd boot?
[11:05] <Seveas> Lartza_, I really have no idea, my music player is mpd + sonata but that's rather unusual :)
[11:05] <Laughed> bod: is there vital information on the Ubuntu drive
[11:05] <pajamian> bod_: sorry: grub-install (dash instead of underscore).  It's a terminal command, "man grub-install" will tell you more.
[11:05] <RoadHazard> lartza, btdt sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok and reinstall
[11:05] <Odo> anyone can suggest me, any apps to use with ndiswrapper and wpa, not wicd :)
[11:05] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: it wouldnt install those either?
[11:05] <Laughed> nice paja
[11:05] <bazhang> Odo: cli
[11:06] <Odo> bazhang, command line interface?
[11:06] <Lartza_> RoadHazard: Is that same than remove completely from synaptic? I f it's it doesn't work
[11:06] <bazhang> Odo: aye
[11:06] <bod_> pajamian, thanks m8, appreciate it, im gonna run upstairs and give it a go, il be back in a few mins,.,.thanks for your help,.,.just out of interest, what has caused this? the specifics, not just "installing windows broke it" ;~) thanks
[11:06] <RoadHazard> I would use terminal with the --purge
[11:06] <RoadHazard> lartza
[11:06] <Odo> bazhang, it seem cannot use iwpriv, to set the key
[11:06] <mettao87> how can i check the driver of my audio card?
[11:06] <kane77> how do I set up grub to have two ubuntu installed?
[11:07] <pajamian> bod_: what happens is that when you install windows it overrides the master boot area with the windows bootloader and that will only boot windows.  grub-install will put the linux boot loader back which is able to boot to either linux or windows.
[11:07] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 no those won't install . this is what is returned: http://pastebin.org/22760
[11:07] <RoadHazard> always install windows first then ubuntu if you are going to dual boot
[11:08] <bod_> pajamian, but there on seperate hard drives, is the boot area something to do with the bios?
[11:08] <bod_> RoadHazard, im aware, but it couldnt be avoided this time
[11:08] <pajamian> bod_: yes, but the BIOS will always boot to the first hard drive.
[11:08] <bazhang> Odo: what card?
[11:08] <RoadHazard> yeah I know, sometimes it just bites us on the tooshie
[11:08] <RoadHazard> pajamian, orly?
[11:08] <bod_> pajamian, but its corrupt the linux boot area,. ok cool cheers m8,. ;~)
[11:09] <Odo> bazhang, us.robotics wireless maxg usb 5421
[11:09] <pqoqwfpwjf> MohammadBoozary: kose nanat
[11:09] <RoadHazard> my bios will boot off any drive I tell it to
[11:09] <pajamian> bod_: it jsut put the windows boot loader in there.  grub-install will put the linux one back, though.
[11:09] <pqoqwfpwjf> MohammadBoozary: kire khook agheshte be sendeye sag too kosse dokhtare peyghambar
[11:09] <pajamian> RoadHazard: ???
[11:09] <pqoqwfpwjf> MohammadBoozary: kire khook agheshte be sendeye sag too kosse Fateme Zahra
[11:09] <cpk1> dependency hell it almost seems like
[11:09] <pajamian> RoadHazard: yes, I was simplifying a bit.
[11:09] <RoadHazard> oic
[11:10] <bazhang> pqoqwfpwjf: english please
[11:10] <prince_jammys> Hobbsee: pqoqwfpwjf
[11:10] <bazhang> Odo: aha a usb dongle
[11:10] <pqoqwfpwjf> bazhang: ok kose nanat
[11:10] <prince_jammys> no, this is the "virgin" mary guy
[11:10] <Odo> bazhang, right
[11:10] <prince_jammys> i mean "virgin mary" guy
[11:10] <pajamian> RoadHazard: technically the bios will boot wherever it's told, but it is always the same disk unless you go into the CMOS setup and change it.
[11:10] <Hobbsee> prince_jammys: ?
[11:10] <Flynsarmy> Is it possible to pick up radio with a regular wifi card?
[11:10] <prince_jammys> troll
[11:10] <RoadHazard> cmos is where the bios lives
[11:11] <Hobbsee> prince_jammys: he's already gone
[11:11] <Hobbsee> oh
[11:11] <pajamian> RoadHazard: CMOS is the part of the bios that holds the battery backed settings.
[11:11] <spark_> hey guys, got a problem with my soundcard. since yesterday it doesn't play 5.1 sound anymore. i got a terratec aureon fun 5.1.. ages ago i solved this prob with a asound.conf. anyone can help me?
[11:11] <JC_Denton_> cpk1 you able to help me any further? otherwise I'll be afk
[11:11] <prince_jammys> Hobbsee: the Fatima reference gave him away: religious nut, shows up often
[11:11] <alabamas> !ops | prince_jammys
[11:11] <ubotu> prince_jammys: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[11:12] <Hobbsee> for the love of...
[11:12] <bazhang> lively day ;[
[11:12] <Laughed> getting alot of that tonight
[11:12] <Hobbsee> yes...
[11:12] <RoadHazard> actually the cmos is a ceramic metal oxide silica chip that is backed up by battery, upon which lives the bios, its a prom
[11:12] <pajamian> RoadHazard: heh, yes, true.
[11:12] <RatsUI> Hi. How do I make an application start at boot ? (KDE)
[11:13] <cpk1> JC_Denton_: probably not, brain is mostly fried this late at night and I am in and out of irc
[11:13] <JC_Denton_> cpk1, ok , thanks for your efforts
[11:13] <pajamian> RoadHazard: but not all the bios is backed up by battery, just the portion that holds the settings and that's the CMOS.  Nowadays the CMOS lives in the same chip as the rest of the BIOS, but about 10-odd years ago it was a seperate chip.
[11:13] <RoadHazard> when I started working on boxes, we used to pull out the bios chip and put a diagnostic chip in its place....bad days that
[11:14] <pajamian> RoadHazard: I think we're getting off topic, go to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:14] <RoadHazard> I beg to differ, bios has been backed up by battery since christ was a corporal
[11:14] <user99> Hi everyone.
[11:14] <RoadHazard> k
[11:15] <prince_jammys> RatsUI: i think you have to add an autostart script to the .kde/Autostart directory
[11:15] <archer> hi, need help on cairo clock at the startup.. i put the command oin sessions but cairo seems to start BEFORE compiz, so comes an advice " cairo need compiz".. any idea??
[11:16] <user99> my X server is not starting up properly (Gutsy). It is showing empty black screen. If I press Ctrl+Alt+Del then the login prompt is coming. Please help
[11:17] <user99> Today I reinstalled Suse. May be that has changed some file type in superblock. Because that is the error I am getting when I try to restore
[11:17] <user99> How do I rebuild the settings?
[11:17] <mettao87> da
[11:18] <user99> archer, I also faced that. I suggest you try screenlet clock. I feel It's same.
[11:18] <hspaans> user99: superblocks only contain inode information
[11:19] <Laughed> How come I dont see some users talking???
[11:19] <spiekey> Hi
[11:19] <spiekey> i have changed my network cards in my box...now i have eth2 but only one network card installed
[11:19] <spiekey> where does it assign the eth name to the network card again?
[11:19] <Seveas> Laughed, because they don't say anything or you ignore them
[11:19] <Laughed> Hey spiekey
[11:19] <prince_jammys> Laughed: i was about to ask that myself, since he responded to archer, who i can't see
[11:19] <user99> hspaans, first of all thanks for your response. I am a noob. I just want a smooth loading of X which is not happening now and the reason might be that what I specified.
[11:20] <Laughed> prince: there he goes again
[11:20] <user99> This has started only after I reinstalled suse.
[11:20] <prince_jammys> is he kidding, or are our clients broken?
[11:20] <Seveas> spiekey, look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[11:20] <Laughed> Heś serious, Im using pidgin
[11:20] <prince_jammys> Konversation here
[11:21] <hspaans> spiekey: thats because linux distro's nowadays stick to to mac-address to make sure eth0 is always eth0 and eth1 is always eth1
[11:21] <Flynsarmy> Is there a good notepad++ equivalent for ubuntu. lightweight and fast but supports heaps of languages with coloured syntax? (Besides gedit)
[11:21] <Seveas> use a real irc client, both of you ;)
[11:21] <Laughed> lol
[11:21] <Seveas> Flynsarmy, vim :)
[11:21] <user99> When I press ctrl+alt+del, I get the login prompt.
[11:21] <RoadHazard> hrm
[11:21] <Laughed> this came as a default with Ubuntu (thats my excuse)
[11:21] <prince_jammys> back to normal
[11:21] <RoadHazard> Flynsarmy, kate
[11:22] <Flynsarmy> Seveeas: Vim sucks. I'm talking about a NORMAL persons program
[11:22] <user99> Should I run the Live CD once and then try?
[11:22] <Seveas> Flynsarmy, watch your language.
[11:22] <prince_jammys> Flynsarmy: vim, kate, emacs
[11:22] <Hobbsee> Flynsarmy: nano?  :)
[11:22] <Hobbsee> Flynsarmy: kate's pretty good
[11:22] <Flynsarmy> Hobbsee: :P
[11:22] <spiekey> hspaans: yes, thats fine. But i would like to modify it. I cant find /etc/iftab. I think it used to be there
[11:22] <archer> user99: screenlet clock sucks.. i can't understand why cairo clock starts before compiz.. does the developers try the program before release it?
[11:22] <Laughed> there is quite a few of you I am not seeing. I better take your advice Sev
[11:22] <Flynsarmy> Hobbsee: prince_jammys RoadHazard Thanks
[11:22] <prince_jammys> !editors | Flynsarmy here you go
[11:22] <ubotu> Flynsarmy here you go: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[11:22] <Flynsarmy> Oh sorry guys i'm using Gnome not KDE
[11:23] <Hobbsee> Flynsarmy: you can run kde stuff on gnome
[11:23] <prince_jammys> doesn't matter
[11:23] <Hobbsee> Flynsarmy: gedit probably does syntax highlighting, too
[11:23] <user99> archer, that's correct. I just find a way out which may not be that good.
[11:23] <romy> anyone there?
[11:23] <Laughed> hey romy
[11:23] <romy> hey
[11:23] <user99> archer, may be cairo-clock developers will look into it later.
[11:23] <Flynsarmy> Hobbsee: Yea but it doesn't keep my cursor position when i hit newline and it also doesn't highlight the brackets the way notepad++ does
[11:23] <Seveas> romy, no, we're all out.
[11:23] <kane77> Flynsarmy, gedit is great...
[11:23] <Keef> hey, what's the easiest way to get the hand drive list from the console?
[11:23] <hspaans> spiekey: why change it?
[11:24] <Seveas> Keef, fdisk -l
[11:24] <Keef> cheers
[11:24] <Seveas> (might need sudo fdisk -l)
[11:24] <silverblade> now that ntfs support is better, is it possible to have an ntfs partition as /home ?
[11:24] <kane77> Flynsarmy, it does all that you mentioned, plus much more.. just look at package gedit-plugins
[11:24] <silverblade> (this would be on a personal desktop)
[11:25] <Seveas> silverblade, not really, many things break if they can't set appropriate permissions
[11:25] <silverblade> ah ;)
[11:25] <spiekey> hspaans: beause i want eth0 not eth2 when i have only one network card physically installed
[11:25] <Flynsarmy> kane77: Thanks for the info, appreciate it :)
[11:25] <Laughed> is there anyone familiar with the grub edit that deletes plash"and allows people to boot up successfully, is there another work around for that. I kinda want to see the splash
[11:25] <spiekey> hspaans: all my firewall and config rules are gonne be messed up if i use eth2
[11:25] <archer> user99: i'm looking for a script like autostart.sh
[11:26] <Seveas> spiekey, look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[11:26] <archer> user99: i mean, startup.sh
[11:26] <Seveas> you can edit it there
[11:27] <Mushrooms> hi everyone i'm looking for advice on how to set up remote desktop for ubuntu
[11:27] <Seveas> Mushrooms, system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[11:27] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Oh, that's easy. System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[11:27] <Laughed> Nice
[11:27] <Amaranth> d'oh
[11:27] <Seveas> Amaslow
[11:28] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Then you can use Applications->Internet->Remote Desktop Viewer to connect to it
[11:28] <Mushrooms> ah thanks, but actually i was after how to use my ubuntu system to access a windows computer
[11:28] <bobbyd> hi
[11:28] <silverblade> what sort of size should a /home partition be if it will just contain the "dot" files?
[11:28] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: then you want the last thing i said :)
[11:28] <spiekey> Seveas: thanks!
[11:28] <Laughed> Amaranth: It was the extra time you took to right Öh, thats easy...
[11:28] <Mushrooms> Amaranth: hmm i don't think i have that installed... or do i? i'll go have a look around first ^-^
[11:28] <Amaranth> Laughed: I need caffeine
[11:28] <bobbyd> how do I upgrade just one thing using aptitude? I tried aptitude upgrade <blah> but that doesn't work...
[11:28] <Seveas> Mushrooms, it's installed by default
[11:28] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: hrm, i am using hardy..
[11:28] <Laughed> its 630 am, dont we all
[11:29] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Oh, maybe you want Terminal Server Client
[11:29] <Amaranth> yeah, that's what you want
[11:29] <Amaranth> Horribly named
[11:29] <silverblade> it sounds like a computer grabe.
[11:29] <silverblade> grave*
[11:29] <Laughed> where were yo on that one Seve, huh?
[11:29] <silverblade> Terminal.....
[11:29] <trentster> hey all, bit of a strange problem,, probably something really simple....I am running combiz all is working well except for the little windows that shows the workspaces on the bottom right, dont show the open windows on each desktop, it just is black, and if I click on it, it shows all the windows. Also when I launch any program it is automatically minimized...any ideas?
[11:29] <Mushrooms> Amaranth: ah i see, so that's what that's for, actually i thought that was a telnet client sort of thing
[11:30] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Well, it does RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) which is usually used with something called a Terminal Server from Citrix/Microsoft
[11:30] <Mushrooms> Amaranth: i see, so i should choose the rdp protocol if i'm connecting it to a windows machine?
[11:30]  * Laughed passes Amaranth a cup of Joe
[11:30] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Most likely
[11:31] <Amaranth> I believe RDPv5 is only using in newer Terminal Server versions and probably Vista
[11:32] <LSD|Ninja> Vista is RDPv6, no?
[11:32] <rnue035>  [12:30] [rnue035(+i)] [4:#ubuntu-offtopic(+Lcntz)] [Act: 1,2,3]
[11:32] <mnemo> if I have navigated to a specific directory using a terminal shell, how can I open this current folder as a GUI folder window??? in window I do this using "start ." command
[11:32] <LSD|Ninja> rnue035: select the wrong part of your terminal? :P
[11:32] <johnhoseloa> !ops | mnemo
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[11:32] <FloodBot2> johnhoseloa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <lauge> c
[11:32] <jpatrick> !ops | johnhoseloa
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[11:32] <rnue035> LSD|Ninja: eh.. yep :(
[11:33] <icesword> who is bot
[11:33] <johnhoseloa> !ops | jpatrick
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[11:33] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[11:33] <johnhoseloa> !ops | jpatrick
[11:33] <mnemo> what happened? why did he flood with my nick?
[11:33] <stdin> mnemo: troll
[11:33] <Flynsarmy> what does ops do anyway?
[11:33] <stdin> Flynsarmy: calls all the ops
[11:33] <LSD|Ninja> Flynsarmy: I think it highlights every op at once
[11:33] <prince_jammys> mnemo: try nautilus /path/to/dir
[11:33] <Amaranth> It's a good way to get a lot of people annoyed at you :)
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> mnemo: GO FUCK YO MAMA
[11:34] <icesword> hahah
[11:34] <jpatrick> ...
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> :D
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> im an idiot
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> lalalala
[11:34] <LSD|Ninja> yes
[11:34] <Kleggen> mnemo: "nautilus ."
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> :D
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> i'm Iranian
[11:34] <johnhoseloa> I'm from Tehran
[11:34] <bluecake> how to 'touch' recursively? or touch a folder?
[11:35] <Amaranth> No one can see what any of you are saying except me
[11:35] <Amaranth> I am trying to clear out the ban list so I can ban this moron
[11:36] <Amaranth> I cannot ban him
[11:36] <Amaranth> The ban list is full
[11:36] <Amaranth> I am working on clearing out old stuff form the ban list
[11:36] <Amaranth> But my client is fighting me
[11:36] <Amaranth> Laughed: Unfortunately
[11:37] <Seveas> quick fix
[11:37] <LSD|Ninja> woot
[11:37] <prince_jammys> bluecake: you mean create a directory? mkdir
[11:37] <Seveas> Sorry Amaranth, I was playing mario galaxy
[11:38] <Amaranth> Seveas: My client does not do ban management :P
[11:38] <bluecake> prince, touch a folder, update folder time&date
[11:38] <LSD|Ninja> What's the ban limit, 450?
[11:38] <jamil_11020429> my mplayer give this error : Could not find free Xvideo port - maybe another process is already using it.
[11:38] <RoadHazard> the princess is in another castle
[11:38] <jamil_11020429> Close all video applications, and try again. If that does not help,
[11:38] <jamil_11020429> see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers.
[11:38] <bod__> can anyone help me with the   grub-install command? what parameters do i need to set?
[11:38] <Seveas> Amaranth, xchat-gnome sucks for more than one reason
[11:38] <Laughed> r u guys modding for free???
[11:38] <martyvis> bluecake: find . -name  -exec touch {} \;
[11:38]  * LSD|Ninja kills Toad and moves on to the next World
[11:38] <Seveas> Laughed, we're all volunteers, yes
[11:39] <RoadHazard> bod_, grub-install (hd0) for the first hdd
[11:39] <Laughed> Nice
[11:39] <prince_jammys> bluecake: touch dir_name doesn't do it?
[11:39] <bod__> RoadHazard: im in live cd because cannot boot from hd, how can i confirm my sata drive name?
[11:39] <Laughed> what does "gk" do when placed in front of sudo
[11:39] <bluecake> PriceChild, no. martyvis thx
[11:40] <arcad3> grafical sudo
[11:40] <bod__> Laughed: its meant to be used for graphical programs,.sets permissions or summit better then sudo does
[11:40] <RoadHazard> fdisk -l
[11:40] <Daverocks> Laughed: gives you a graphical sudo prompt
[11:40] <pajamian> Laughed: it has a graphical popup when asking for your password instead of a text line on the console.
[11:40] <Laughed> whoa.... lol, ty e1
[11:40] <RoadHazard> bod_, open terminal, then fdisk -l
[11:41] <Flynsarmy> OK i typed gksudo nano to see what would happen and now it won't let me out of nano
[11:41] <pajamian> Laughed: it's good for when you have a shell script that uses sudo that you run from your desktop (as opposed to running the script from the terminal)
[11:41] <arcad3> i have a problem and i blame ubuntu ...i cant share my internet connection (ubuntu as router)
[11:41] <Seveas> arcad3, apt-get install firestarter. It has a tickbox to do that
[11:41] <RoadHazard> why would you want to, let them get their own internets
[11:41] <Amaranth> arcad3: Install firestarter and dhcp3-server
[11:42] <arcad3> its ubuntu server
[11:42] <rnue035> I get this each time I boot: http://tinyurl.com/ypgq7c what do I do about it?
[11:42] <kerberos-jena> hey there
[11:42] <arcad3> dhcp3-server is configured and working
[11:42] <prince_jammys> rickroll alert
[11:42] <Amaranth> arcad3: iptables syntax is ...hard
[11:42] <Seveas> arcad3, familiarize yourself with iptables or install shorewall
[11:42] <arcad3> ipmqsq installed as well
[11:42] <Seveas> Amaranth, not at all :)
[11:42] <Laughed> k, ty paj
[11:43] <bod__> RoadHazard: when running     sudo grub-install /dev/sda1      i get this error  -- Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.      also fdisk -l doesnt show my hard drives, only my memory stick,.,.,.???
[11:43] <dirkg3nt1y> I had to force a restart of my computer today, when it started up the filesystem wasn't checked, is that a problem?
[11:43] <arcad3> ipmasq does the firewall for you PREROUTING inluded
[11:43] <arcad3> but still not working
[11:43] <RoadHazard> bod_, sudo grub-install (hd0)
[11:43] <mnemo> arcad3, Amaranth: there is a new simpler firewall in hardy called "ufw" (it stands for "uncomplicated firewall") :->
[11:43] <rnue035> oops.. that was the wrong thing... i meant this: http://pastebin.com/m3b2fb158
[11:43] <arcad3> i know iptables
[11:44] <arcad3> i use it daily ...
[11:44] <bod__> RoadHazard: im not using an ide drive, does that matter? how do you know its (hd0)  ??
[11:44] <RoadHazard> rnue035, I was wondering if it played games every time you booted
[11:44] <arcad3> im not newbie the rules are made
[11:44] <gilster32> does anyone here know if there is a way i can get some GUI support for DVD-RAM discs. ?
[11:44] <arcad3> bit..nothing
[11:44] <Daverocks> dirkg3nt1y: assuming you're using ext3, it's journalled so it generally doesn't need to, but it does check every so often unless you've messed with tunefs
[11:44] <RoadHazard> hd0 is the first one
[11:44] <Ergo^> hello
[11:44] <Flynsarmy> Word of caution: Don't gksudo nano. It won't let you out :)
[11:44] <Ergo^> i have a wifi card that lspci identified as marvel w8300 - but it doesnt show up in network manager
[11:45] <RoadHazard> Flynsarmy, thats nothing, vi wont let you out just USING it
[11:45] <dirkg3nt1y> thanks Daverocks, i just wondering if i had gotten the setting wrong but it does check every so many mounts
[11:45] <Ergo^> are there any drivers natively or do i have to play with the ndiswrapper thingie ?
[11:45] <Amaranth> Alright, that should be enough room
[11:45] <martyvis> Ergo^: what does google say?
[11:45] <arcad3> ogh
[11:45] <pajamian> ipmasq does better NAT routing than just about any home router I've seen, I used to use it back in the days of ipchains (before iptables) I think back then NAT routers were barely even known at all, Linux was one of the first to do it.
[11:45] <rnue035> RoadHazard: no it doesn't play games :), but how do I fix the other thing? it halts there for about 20s each time
[11:46] <bullgard4> How differ the files /var/lib/dpkg/algternatives/x-session-manager and /usr/bin/gnome-session in their function?
[11:46] <gilster32> anyone here ever use DVD-RAM discs in ubuntu?
[11:46] <Ergo^> martyvis: google from 2007 says - ndiswrapper , but that may be outdated
[11:46] <Laughed> lol, thanks Flyn
[11:46] <arcad3> ipmasq is installed and running
[11:46] <arcad3> but stiil no internet on client PC
[11:46] <bluecake> martyvis , can explain that does line does? part for part? find . -name  -exec touch {} \;
[11:46] <martyvis> Ergo^: google is never out of date ;-)
[11:46] <mohamed_> how to remove gnomad2 using terminal window
[11:46] <Daverocks> rnue035: sure it's an ubuntu thing?
[11:46] <jackal> anyone used xenman or convirt ?
[11:46] <Ergo^> posts on ubuntu forum from 2005
[11:47] <RoadHazard> rnue035, I would definitely look into a backup solution and ffr
[11:47] <arcad3> who want to help me im out of patience
[11:47] <Aranel> My motherboard gives an annoying "beep" in most of games. But it isnt a "error beep" , Its trying to give the game's musics using an "old arcade game"-like way. How can I stop this beeping ?
[11:47] <mohamed_> sudo aptitude purge is the command to remove a program
[11:47] <Laughed> On a fresh install should I install teh ATI Restricted drivers first, then Envy or vice versa
[11:47] <arcad3> i giveuser to my box
[11:47] <martyvis> bluecake: type there - try first "find ./ -exec ls -l {} \;"
[11:47] <Amaranth> bullgard4: that x-session-manager starts /usr/bin/x-session-manager which is a symlink to gnome-session
[11:47] <RoadHazard> what would you like help with?
[11:47] <Amaranth> bullgard4: so there is no difference
[11:48] <prince_jammys> bluecake: find dot (starting at current dir) -name (not necessary) -exec (do this for everything you find) touch {} (brackets will be replaced with each item found \; (semicolon must be escaped as part of exec so as not to be mistaken by shell)
[11:48] <martyvis> bluecake: that will run ls -l on all files under current directory
[11:48] <Elko> What's the best way to uninstall everything related to GNOME and X?  Is there a shortcut instead of searching for all related files individually?
[11:48] <RoadHazard> arcad3, what are you experiencing difficulty with>?
[11:48] <martyvis> bluecake: find ./ starts at current directory - you could have find /some/dir
[11:48] <rnue035> Daverocks: I'm not sure, but I get it when booting ubuntu... hte thing is I was tryinig to repair my windows installation and it messed up grub.. so I restored the grub and since then I'm getting this...
[11:48] <Amaranth> Elko: If you uninstall libx11-6 it'll wipe out most everything X
[11:48] <Schmael[J]> PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S DAUGHTER WAS A COMMON WHORE
[11:48] <Amaranth> Elko: and GNOME is an X thing so it'll go away too
[11:48] <arcad3> with.. internet connection sharing
[11:49] <arcad3> dhcp server + ipmasq
[11:49] <Elko> Amaranth: Thanks for that hint.
[11:49] <Mushrooms> Amaranth: Yays! thanks for your help i got the remote desktop working
[11:49] <Aranel> !ops
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[11:49] <Amaranth> Aranel: I already banned him
[11:49] <RoadHazard> good job shrooms
[11:49] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: awesome
[11:49] <Aranel> Amaranth:  ok, thanks :)
[11:49] <martyvis> bluecake: -name *.c would only find c files
[11:50] <gilster32> so folks, no one here has any experience formatting DVD-RAM discs in ubuntu?
[11:50] <martyvis> bluecake: then -exec uses the following shell commands to execute
[11:50] <martyvis> bluecake: {} is the name of the found file
[11:50] <Amaranth> gilster32: I've never even seen a DVD-RAM, didn't they die out like 6 months after they were introduced?
[11:50] <martyvis> bluecake: the \; ends the shell string
[11:50] <mohamed_> hi anybody tell me how to remove gnomad2 from ubuntu 7.10
[11:50] <martyvis> bluecake: man find - and it is all there
[11:51] <bluecake> martyvis, thx
[11:51] <bluecake> PriceChild, thx
[11:51] <prince_jammys> bluecake: if you want to only touch dirs:  find . type -d ....
[11:51] <GwaiLo> Hi All, doing a ls -lash on a file... I get the following:   0 -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 347M 2008-02-24 13:56 blahblah
[11:51] <GwaiLo> What does the 0 at the start represent? the file isn't reading properly and I think it should. It is an NTFS volume
[11:51] <GwaiLo> (the file was written under win32 originally)
[11:51] <prince_jammys> bluecake: excuse me -type d
[11:51] <gilster32> Amaranth: yes they werent very popular. In either case i got like 10 of them here and they are great for easy click and drag. But i need to format them and the only thing i have found so far is udftools in cli
[11:52] <gilster32> i can use it
[11:52] <gilster32> but wanted something in the gui interface
[11:52] <Amaranth> gilster32: afaik the 0 is size on disk
[11:52] <Amaranth> err, wrong person
[11:52] <gilster32> ok
[11:52] <Amaranth> GwaiLo: afaik the 0 is size on disk, but that doesn't make sense here
[11:53] <Amaranth> GwaiLo: but it seems you've mounted the partition incorrectly, only root and users in the plugdev group have access
[11:53] <GwaiLo> Amaranth: hmm, that really doesn't given it says 347mb there
[11:53] <Seveas> Amaranth, 0 makes sense for a device file because the device file itself takes no space
[11:53] <Amaranth> Seveas: ah, right
[11:53] <pajamian> GwaiLo: I think the 0 will be the size calculated from the number of blocks that the file occupies, but the 347M is the size according to the file's directory entry.
[11:54] <arcad3> who wats to help with a prob.
[11:54] <GwaiLo> UUID=2A60FD7360FD465B /media/sde1     ntfs    defaults,force,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:54] <GwaiLo> that's the fstab entry
[11:54] <arcad3> i give user to my box (root)
[11:54] <GwaiLo> pajamian: oh... so that's really bad yes?
[11:54] <bod__> RoadHazard: i get the same error -- im trying to reinstall grub onto a hard drive because i installed windows and it broke my ubuntu drive
[11:54] <archman> is there any program that can crack password-protected rar file?
[11:54] <Amaranth> GwaiLo: yeah, that would mean the file is broken
[11:55] <Amaranth> archman: Discussion of such things is not allowed here
[11:55] <bod__> archman: theres things like that in repo's search for password
[11:55] <RoadHazard> ok windows and ubuntu are on separate drives or partitions within the same drive?
[11:55] <GwaiLo> well... crap then
[11:55] <pajamian> GwaiLo: well it's a bit of a guess, but yes, it would mean that the file was truncated improperly without updating the directory entry (probably by turning the computer off when the file was open).
[11:55] <bod__> RoadHazard: Seperate drives
[11:55] <prince_jammys> archman: rar passwords are extremely difficult to crack.
[11:55] <prince_jammys> oh, excuse me
[11:55] <RoadHazard> k you want the boot sector for grub to be ON the linux drive then point the bios at that
[11:55] <GwaiLo> pajamian: hmm, almost everything on the disk is like that
[11:56] <GwaiLo> I guess I could use find to locate all the 0 sized files
[11:56] <bod__> RoadHazard: im not sure, i just want to be able to use my linux drive again, atm if i try to boot from my ubuntu drive it says @Error with operating system@
[11:56] <RoadHazard> so perhaps it may be sudo grub-install (hd1)
[11:56] <pajamian> GwaiLo: then I would venture to say it's not mounted properly or something.  Can you read the files from windows?
[11:56] <bod__> @="
[11:56] <arcad3> how i make mysql server to be accessibile from outside ?
[11:56] <bod__> RoadHazard: no, i no its hd1 (does it have to be in brackets?
[11:57] <GwaiLo> pajamian: I could before reinstalling... but I don't have a win32 install at the moment. Files that I've written to the disk post-install are all readable fine... it's the ones that were there pre-install that aren't
[11:57] <Amaranth> GwaiLo: If you are not root and not in the plugdev group you may not have permission to see how much space the file is actually taking on disk
[11:57] <myth-newb> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $path.... can someone help
[11:57] <RoadHazard> yes it needs to be in (hd1)
[11:57] <GwaiLo> Amaranth: hmm, so I'll do another ls as root, sec
[11:57] <Amaranth> GwaiLo: Then again I don't think you'd be able to get a directory listing either...
[11:57] <Seveas> !compiling | myth-newb
[11:57] <ubotu> myth-newb: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[11:57] <bod__> RoadHazard: ok, lemme give it another go ,.this command -- sudo grub-install (hd1) -- is that right?
[11:58] <AzarbaycanlI> hi
[11:58] <RoadHazard> bod_, give it a swing
[11:58] <arcad3> how i make mysql server to be accessibile from outside ?
[11:58] <Seveas> bod__, '(hd1)'
[11:59] <Seveas> else your shell will want to interpret the ()
[11:59] <Seveas> arcad3, let it listen on 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[11:59] <bod__> Seveas: ah, cool,. cheers
[11:59] <Amaranth> Seveas: All yours, I have work to do. P
[11:59] <Aranel> How can I stop my motherboard beeping in most games ?
[11:59] <Seveas> Amaranth, :)
[11:59] <AzarbaycanlI> @Seveas: GO FUCK YOUR MAMA
[11:59] <Amaranth> Good timing...
[11:59] <GwaiLo> Amaranth: hmm, the results of ls are exactly the same as root :(
[11:59] <Seveas> saw that one coming from 3 miles
[11:59] <prince_jammys> i saw that one coming
[11:59] <RoadHazard> its probably listening on 3306 on all ip's anyway
[12:00] <prince_jammys> jinx
[12:00] <bod__> RoadHazard: Seveas: same error -- Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:00] <Seveas> had the /cs kb AzarbaycanlI already in the paste buffer :)
[12:00] <Laughed> I was given advice on the forums and I am hoping someone here can make heads or tails out of this cause I am confused
[12:00] <RoadHazard> uno momento bod
[12:00] <pajamian> good lord, they are really coming out tonight.
[12:00] <prince_jammys> Seveas: i had it ready to notify you guys :)
[12:00] <bod__> RoadHazard: ok cheers
[12:00] <pajamian> is it a full moon or something?
[12:00] <Seveas> prince_jammys, :)
[12:00] <prince_jammys> irc sixth sense
[12:01] <Laughed> Since I am unable to boot up with a splash screen (the screeen goes blank and hangs) and this is the response i got:
[12:01] <bod__> Seveas: doin alot of house cleaning today ;|)
[12:01] <Laughed> Open a terminal and edit the first file to be 1024 768, then add "vga=791" to the end of your grub boot string:
[12:01] <Laughed> Code: 	
[12:01] <Laughed> gksudo gedit /etc/usplash
[12:01] <Laughed> sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:01] <Laughed> gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:01] <FloodBot2> Laughed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <aneta> could help me to find a way to switch form us keyboard to another. I am using gnome
[12:02] <RoadHazard> bod_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504678
[12:02] <Laughed> sorry
[12:02] <Amaranth> aneta: System->Preferences->Keyboard, Layouts tab
[12:02] <myth-newb> configure: error *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed for this driver.... anyone :-)
[12:02] <boris_> hi
[12:02] <Sprutnik> Cant use my webcam with aMSN
[12:02] <prince_jammys> Laughed: what's the problem?
[12:02] <Laughed> does the above make sense to anyone cause its not working and I am not sure where this first file is supposed to be
[12:02] <Amaranth> myth-newb: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:02] <bod__> RoadHazard: cheers, il have a read
[12:03] <myth-newb> cheers will try that
[12:03] <Sprutnik> I says error driver not loaded
[12:03] <boris_> i got a biiiiig file, 8 GB, and am looking to somehow extremely compress it, so it is like 600 mb or something.is that possible ?
[12:03] <Sprutnik> PLZ somebody help
[12:03] <Laughed> Hey prince: I was given advice on the forums for a work around and I dont understand the directions
[12:03] <Nuxis> Hey, I just compiled alsa (needed for hda-intel) sound is working but now my driver of madwifi ... well my card just vanished .. anyone an idea ?
[12:03] <prince_jammys> Laughed: yes. i have seen those directions. they work for most people
[12:03] <Iceron> bori_: 7z ?
[12:03] <bullgard4> Amaranth: I confirm that in Ubuntu 7.10 that /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-session-manager will start /usr/bin/x-session-manager (among other things). I found out that /usr/bin/x-session-manager is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager but not to /usr/bin/gnome-session. This is in contrast to what you said. Can you enlighten me, please.
[12:04] <Amaranth> bullgard4: I skipped a step
[12:04] <RoadHazard> bod methinks that will do what you want
[12:04] <Sprutnik> IS THERE A DANE OUT THERE
[12:04] <prince_jammys> Laughed: if i remember right, they involve editing two files
[12:04] <Amaranth> bullgard4: check out what /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager is symlinked to
[12:04] <myth-newb> couldnt find package linux-headers-uname -r
[12:04] <Laughed> where is this first file he mentions???
[12:04] <Seveas> !cpas | Sprutnik
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <Seveas> !caps | Sprutnik
[12:04] <ubotu> Sprutnik: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:04] <prince_jammys> !dk | Sprutnik
[12:04] <ubotu> Sprutnik: For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[12:04] <joeytwiddle> >< no record
[12:05] <Sprutnik> uboto hvordan gør jeg det
[12:05] <RoadHazard> yeeeouch
[12:05] <arash> Hi, anyone know any easy (GUI preferably) to use .ogg to .mp3 converter?
[12:05] <prince_jammys> Sprutnik: /join #ubuntu-dk
[12:05] <Laughed> prince: I went to File: /boot/grub/menu.lst   but I dont see anyplace to put his first line 1024 768, then add "vga=791"
[12:05] <pajamian> !dk | Sprutnik
[12:05] <ubotu> Sprutnik: For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[12:06] <joeytwiddle> >< no record
[12:06] <prince_jammys> Laughed: let me find the directions and see, i have the link
[12:06] <Laughed> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=718395
[12:06] <dirkg3nt1y> arash, soundconverter is the most popular, btw... copying from ogg to mp3 is considered an unclean conversion, its not very literal
[12:06] <myth-newb> Amaranth tried sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` but i get couldnt find package linux-headers-uname -r
[12:07] <bod__> RoadHazard: cheers for that link,. im onna reboot now and have a look if it worked,. could you plz hang on to that link for a few mnins for me, as i cant save it,. ;|)
[12:07] <bluecake> PriceChild, strange, i touched it, but the apache time remains the same. old date. while ls -alh shows new date. flush firefox cache and rebooted linux box.
[12:07] <pajamian> arash: I don't know of a gui converter, but you can easily pipe the output of oggdec (decodes the ogg) to lame (encodes as mp3)
[12:07] <RoadHazard> bod_, I got it open here
[12:07] <Seveas> sorry for the noise, just some housekeeping :)
[12:07] <prince_jammys> Laughed: ah ok i was looking at this:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[12:07] <Laughed> Prince: also my resolution is 1920 1080, so shouldnt i use that instead
[12:07] <Laughed> Prince: Im sorry I gave you the link to my post
[12:07] <Amaranth> myth-newb: those are backticks, not quotes
[12:07] <Laughed> Ill look at the one you just listed maybe its clearer
[12:07] <boris_> im looking for a program that could compress 8 GB file into 700 MB is that possible '
[12:07] <arash> Thankst
[12:07] <Amaranth> myth-newb: ` vs '
[12:08] <Amaranth> boris_: Not unless the 8GB file is text
[12:08] <prince_jammys> Laughed: yes
[12:08] <myth-newb> ok
[12:08] <boris_> Amaranth: ISO file
[12:08] <RoadHazard> doggone seveas, you've been busy
[12:08] <Amaranth> boris_: Yeah, not going to happen
[12:08] <Amaranth> whee
[12:08] <prince_jammys> Laughed: check my link, it's more detailed and i think it's for the same problem
[12:08] <boris_> what about 8 GB to 4 GB ? so it's enough for a DVD ?
[12:09] <pajamian> boris_: generally not, though you can do lossy compression if it's something like a picture or sound file or video, but you will loose lots of quality.
[12:09] <Amaranth> boris_: Nope
[12:09] <legend2440> arash:  http://gnormalize.sourceforge.net/
[12:09] <Laughed> yeah, Prince: nice... so much better than the instructionsI was given.
[12:09] <RoadHazard> you can use that dvd9-5 thing
[12:09] <Amaranth> boris_: You could pull the video out of the ISO and reencode it to make it smaller, you'd lose a lot of quality though
[12:09] <pajamian> boris_: 8gb sounds like the size of a DVD, are you trying to copy a DVD to a vcd?
[12:09] <RoadHazard> and ALOT of your precious time
[12:09] <boris_> no
[12:09] <prince_jammys> Laughed: i keep it around since your problem is pretty common. you probably have a laptop right?
[12:09] <boris_> 8 GB is a game
[12:09] <pajamian> boris_: you want k9copy
[12:10] <RoadHazard> 4.3gb = dvd
[12:10] <boris_> tiberium warz to be exact
[12:10] <pajamian> for a video
[12:10] <myth-newb> amarath sorry for beeing a plonker but i changed it to quotes and i get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token '('
[12:10] <spark_> hey guys!
[12:10] <pajamian> for a game ... well you're out of luck.
[12:10] <Laughed> nope, fresh install on an old 40gb drive.
[12:10] <myth-newb> sorry changed it to brackets even
[12:10] <Laughed> dual boot / xp
[12:10] <talonz> how many ppl are running hardy now ?? is it worth getting or waiting for the official release ?
[12:10] <prince_jammys> Laughed: well, check it anyway. i think it may be what you want
[12:10] <RoadHazard> hardly?
[12:10] <spark_> got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again?
[12:11] <Amaranth> boris_: So, let me get this straight. You downloaded a copy of C&C 3 illegally but then found you don't have any dual layer DVDs to burn to so you want us to help you do something impossible so you can play your illegally downloaded game.
[12:11] <Amaranth> Play it on Windows, no less.
[12:11] <boris_> i need to compress a 8 GB iso file to something i can put at least on a DVD
[12:11] <Amaranth> boris_: Go away.
[12:11] <Laughed> yeah, it looks right/// the resolutions codes in that link, is there a fuller list I dont see my monitor size 1920X1080
[12:11] <boris_> Amaranth: im not going to play it
[12:11] <RoadHazard> l o s e r
[12:12] <RoadHazard> seveas layeth the smack down
[12:12] <pajamian> boris_: go out and buy a dual layer dvd+r disk (assuming your dvd burner supports it)
[12:12] <GwaiLo> pajamian: Amaranth: thanks guys, I guess I'll do some more experimentation
[12:12] <prince_jammys> Laughed: i don't know. i recall someone else had this issue, but i don't remember the fix. you can try a lower supported res, since it will only affect the boot process
[12:12] <bullgard4> Amaranth: I confirm that /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager is a symlink to /usr/bin/gnome-session. Thank you for explaining me that. --  So one can say that the functionality of /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-session-manager includes all functionality of /usr/bin/gnome-session but the opposite is not true. Right?
[12:13] <prince_jammys> Laughed: it will only affect the resolution while booting, i mean
[12:13] <myth-newb> amarath sorry for beeing a plonker but i changed it to brackets and i get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token '('
[12:13] <Amaranth> bullgard4: No, the alternatives stuff makes it possible to just call /usr/bin/x-session-manager and always get the session manager the user has configured
[12:13] <GwaiLo> pajamian: Amaranth: hmm, could it mean anything if cat file sits there doing nothing? surely if it's a 0 byte file it should just return nothing rather than sit there...?
[12:13] <Amaranth> bullgard4: you can change it to something other than gnome-session with sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[12:13] <netsrot> Hi, how do I get swedish chars working in terminal(ctrl+alt+F1) in an english environment(so programs still write their own text in english). I'm using ubuntu7.04.
[12:14] <arash> Sound converter is a very good tool. Extremely easy to use
[12:14] <Mushrooms> Amaranth: ^-^ I can now use matlab without having to install it on my ubuntu box ^-^ yayas thanks heaps! again!
[12:14] <Amaranth> Mushrooms: Cool, glad I could help
[12:14] <hyder> i was trying ubuntu livecd last week but since i coudn't get the wireless to work i gave up, i couldn't even get that compiz effects working whilst it was working on fedora and mandriva.  The gfx card is; "Graphics Card Type  	INTEL GMA X3100"
[12:15] <myth-newb> amaranth: sorry for beeing a plonker but i changed it to brackets and i get "bash: syntax error near unexpected token '('
[12:15] <hyder> I have a TOSHIBA EQUIUM A200-1VO
[12:15] <pajamian> GwaiLo: sorry, don't know any more about that.  usually cat only hangs when it's waiting for input (such as if it's reading from stdin)
[12:15] <hyder> can anyone help?
[12:15] <spark_> got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again? can anyone help me?
[12:15] <Amaranth> myth-newb: brackets? I said backticks
[12:15] <amikrop> In Battle for Wesnoth, why the Campaign button does nothing (I can't start a new campaign)?
[12:15] <GwaiLo> pajamian: yeah, that's what I thought as well... seems really odd
[12:15] <myth-newb> lol
[12:15] <Amaranth> myth-newb: ` is the key next to the 1
[12:15] <pajamian> brb
[12:15] <myth-newb> i got it
[12:15] <myth-newb> slap me with a kipper
[12:16] <GwaiLo> pajamian: weird, I can copy it and it ends up with the same properties... ie. 0 bytes but reported size as 350mb
[12:16] <Yodude> hey is there any trouble in connection a gutsy laptop to a projector for oing a presentation ? Or will it run just fine /
[12:16] <Yodude> ?
[12:16] <boris_> Amaranth: i just wanna tell u
[12:16] <boris_> Amaranth: i havent got windows on this comp, none of my family members has
[12:16] <boris_> Amaranth: so no, i cant play it
[12:17] <boris_> Amaranth: im just looking to put it on a DVD. _compressed_
[12:17] <RoadHazard> Yodude, shouldnt be an issue, its just a d-shell 15
[12:17] <Amaranth> boris_: You cannot, no go away before I report you to your ISP
[12:17] <Amaranth> now*
[12:17] <boris_> Amaranth: ok ok i wont
[12:17] <hyder> i was trying ubuntu livecd last week but since i coudn't get the wireless to work i gave up, i couldn't even get that compiz effects working whilst it was working on fedora and mandriva.  The gfx card is; "Graphics Card Type  	INTEL GMA X3100".  I have a TOSHIBA EQUIUM A200-1VO.  can anyone help?
[12:17] <Yodude> RoadHazard: what do you mean by a D-shell ?
[12:18] <boris_> Amaranth: i give up. happy ?
[12:18] <Amaranth> boris_: What you are asking is physically impossible anyway
[12:18] <RoadHazard> the outer rim of the vga connector, shaped like a d
[12:18] <Laughed> Prince: Sorry : I copy, trying to work through it.
[12:18] <Amaranth> Well, actually it's mathematically impossible
[12:18] <boris_> Amaranth: so you could just tell me that. without arguing
[12:18] <Seveas> Amaranth, depends very much on the content
[12:18] <RoadHazard> Amaranth, so is me getting a date...
[12:18] <Amaranth> boris_: I told you that 5 times now
[12:18] <boris_> Amaranth: besides, when i asked my question, i added "is that possible" ?
[12:18] <Amaranth> Seveas: he has an illegally downloaded game iso
[12:18] <Seveas> Amaranth, I've seen a 300mb excel file compressed to 4
[12:18] <Seveas> Amaranth, I know, he should be shot
[12:19] <hyder> hello? anyone get my question
[12:19] <rausb0> what's wrong with this debmirror tool? it doesn't show any error messages, but it downloads nothing. http://phpfi.com/301260
[12:19] <Yodude> RoadHazard: and is it ok if i keep compiz-fusion running ?! i'd love to show that off
[12:19] <bod__> RoadHazard: hey dude,. that fixed the problem, cheers, however now when i try to boot from grub loader it says "Cannot mount selected point"        any thoughts?
[12:19] <Amaranth> hyder: compiz does not work on your system in 7.10
[12:19] <spark_> hey guys: got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again? can anyone help me?
[12:19] <Amaranth> hyder: It will hopefully work in 8.04
[12:19] <hyder> Amaranth, yes nor the wireless card
[12:19] <RoadHazard> sure, compiz isnt monitor dependanty
[12:19] <Amaranth> hyder: If it is intel wireless it should work fine
[12:19] <larson9999> i've been battling with lockups in ubuntu at least since gutsy rolled out.  i finally got it down to where it'd only lockup about 1 every few days.  i've been using nvidia for a good decade i think so i don't think it's newbie stuff.  i thought it was the driver though as that seems to be the favorite thing to point the finger at.
[12:20] <Seveas> RoadHazard, it is gfx card dependant though
[12:20] <RoadHazard> bod check your fstab
[12:20] <Amaranth> larson9999: compiz is exposing bugs in your nvidia driver
[12:20] <hyder> can someone please help, i want to install it quickly as my cousin is leaving today
[12:20] <Amaranth> larson9999: disable visual effects
[12:20] <Amaranth> hyder: If it is intel wireless it should work fine
[12:20] <RoadHazard> Seveas, yes but he's just plugging the puter into a projector, not changing out the vid adapter
[12:21] <Amaranth> hyder: But basically if it didn't work right away and it isn't broadcom it probably won't work, period
[12:21] <bod__> RoadHazard: im a bit n00b, could you be a bit more specific please, like where is the file, what am i looking for?
[12:21] <hyder> when i go to restricted drivers manager it says "your hardware does not need restriced drivers are needed"
[12:21] <Amaranth> hyder: pastebin the output of lspci
[12:21] <Amaranth> !pastebin | hyder
[12:21] <ubotu> hyder: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:21] <RoadHazard> /etc/fstab pastebin it
[12:22] <hyder> Amaranth, http://pastebin.com/m478a65bb
[12:22] <larson9999> now i'm pointing the finger at ubuntu.  i switched one of my machines that has this issue to arch linux and hit it like crazy with the main things that seemed to cause the lockups in ubuntu.  flash on ff.  i mean i've been having a week long flash marathon and not one lockup.
[12:22] <bullgard4> Amaranth: Thank you for explaining. To fully appreciate what you told me but I will need to study 'man update-alternatives' and what it writes about the 'Debian alternative system'.  --  Thank you for your competent help.
[12:22] <larson9999> Amaranth, disabling visual effects is the first thing i do.  i hat them.
[12:23] <bod__> RoadHazard: that file dir doesnt exist
[12:23] <Amaranth> larson9999: then it's just the driver (or your video card)
[12:23] <Amaranth> hyder: this doesn't even list a wireless card, did you turn the killswitch on?
[12:23] <hyder> Amaranth, yes the wireless light is on the laptop
[12:23] <larson9999> Amaranth, yeah, the only thing is same driver and card and arch has no issue.
[12:24] <Amaranth> larson9999: same kernel?
[12:24] <RoadHazard> bod sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:24] <Amaranth> larson9999: nvidia is known to...suck
[12:24] <RoadHazard> copy all of it and pastebin it
[12:24] <Amaranth> hyder: i dunno what to tell you, according to lspci your laptop does not even have a wireless card, let alone a driver for said card
[12:24] <RoadHazard> if you dont have an fstab, that could definitely be an issue
[12:24] <Amaranth> hyder: pastebin lsusb
[12:25] <larson9999> Amaranth, tried lots of kernels in ubuntu.  enough to make me think it's not that.  but here is what arch says 2.6.24-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT
[12:25] <hyder> Amaranth, http://pastebin.com/m58186178
[12:25] <Amaranth> larson9999: and you have 2.6.24 in ubuntu?
[12:25] <rausb0> Amaranth: some cheap notebooks have internal usb wireless cards
[12:25] <Amaranth> larson9999: and the same X server?
[12:26] <Amaranth> hyder: well that doesn't help :/
[12:26] <larson9999> Amaranth, that's my point.  i wonder how much of the 'arch has been known to suck' is really nvidia and not ubuntu.
[12:26] <bod__> RoadHazard: would this be the file path (because im on live cd) sudo nano /media/disk-1/etc/fstab?
[12:26] <RoadHazard> yes I think it would
[12:26] <spark_> got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again?
[12:27] <Amaranth> larson9999: the problem with nvidia is things change in the kernel and X server and nvidia probably just does the minimal amount of work to make the driver load again
[12:27] <Amaranth> larson9999: so something might have semantically changed that they break on
[12:27] <hyder> is Realtek the wireless?
[12:27] <Amaranth> hyder: most likely
[12:27] <Amaranth> hyder: but we have drivers for some of those
[12:27] <rausb0> hyder: rtl8197 is not supported yet. i just checked the rtl8187 driver in kernel 2.6.24
[12:28] <Amaranth> hyder: and basically if a driver exists it is in ubuntu so a driver most likely does not exist for your wireless
[12:29] <hyder> :(
[12:29] <EdwardXp> does anyone know where i can get ahold of a subseven account where i can put on my website?
[12:29] <larson9999> Amaranth, i hear you but i'm a little less inclined now to blame nvidia :)  i suppose theres a decent chance i'm doing something differently in arch i'm not aware of that is at fault.
[12:30] <EdwardXp> so i can update my source.list file and download my essential apt-get's ???
[12:30] <myth-newb> is aclocal a command?
[12:30] <hyder> but why isnt compiz working wih Graphics adaptor
[12:30] <hyder> Intel® | Intel® GMA X3100 ?
[12:31] <RoadHazard> how goes it bod?
[12:31] <Amaranth> hyder: because the driver cannot do compiz and Xv (video playback) at the same time
[12:31] <bod__> RoadHazard: here ya go -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58864/
[12:31] <ttt--> is there a program that monitors network transfers (the amount over time)?
[12:32] <rausb0> hyder: the composite extension is blacklisted for that card. 3d accel works, but compiz additionally need the composite extension.
[12:32] <hyder> ok since the wireless is vital, does anyone know of any distro that will support the realek 8197
[12:33] <Amaranth> hyder: no, because a driver for it does not exist
[12:33] <RoadHazard> bod, what do you have going on in sda2 through 4?
[12:33] <spark_> got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again? noone has a clue what i can do?
[12:33] <rausb0> hyder: if 0bda:8197 is just another usb-id for the rtl8187 chipset, i should be enough to patch the id in the existing driver. but maybe it's a different chip, i don't know.
[12:34] <bod__> RoadHazard: do you mean what partitions are on it?
[12:34] <myth-newb> amaranth: I just the command "sudo aclocal && automake && autoconf" and i get an error saying permission denied any ideas?
[12:34] <kris_ph> Hi! How to change the time format of gutsy server to 12H (AM/PM) instead of 24H?
[12:34] <RoadHazard> yes, because they are not referred to in your fstab
[12:34] <Amaranth> myth-newb: you should not run those commands with sudo, you've just busted your build
[12:35] <Amaranth> myth-newb: delete that directory and start over
[12:35] <bod__> RoadHazard: how would i find out?? sorry for the n00bishness
[12:35] <flapke> hi, I've a new user, but I think I messed up my permissions a little bit. I don't have to give a passwd to become root!@#???
[12:35] <myth-newb> the command did nothing anyway
[12:35] <RoadHazard> no problem, its how we learn
[12:35] <bod__> ;|)
[12:35] <bod__> ;-)
[12:35] <RoadHazard> goto terminal, type parted and then we'll find out
[12:35] <myth-newb> amaranth: the command did not do anything anyway
[12:35] <Amaranth> myth-newb: what are you trying to compile, anyway?
[12:35] <myth-newb> lcdproc
[12:36] <Amaranth> myth-newb: sudo apt-get install lcdproc
[12:36] <Amaranth> !info lcdproc gutsy
[12:36] <ubotu> lcdproc (source: lcdproc): LCD display driver daemon and clients. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 325 kB, installed size 1020 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[12:36] <myth-newb> it doesnt support the imon vfd oem on antec black fusion case
[12:36] <bod__> RoadHazard: erm, i think something went wrong -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58865/
[12:37] <Amaranth> myth-newb: well that is the latest release so compiling from source will not help
[12:37] <myth-newb> i have a patch
[12:37] <Amaranth> myth-newb: oh
[12:37] <Amaranth> myth-newb: well you'll have to find someone else to help you, i have to get back to work
[12:37] <jtslade> Hey guys, what's the best player (decoder) for quicktime videos? I am trying to watch some quicktime screencasts but I can't use the timeline properly, each time I move the timeline, it doesn't jump to the right segment.
[12:37] <myth-newb> ok cheers for the help so far
[12:38] <bod__> !best > jtslade       please read pm from ubotu
[12:38] <RoadHazard> bod sudo parted
[12:38] <myth-newb> anyone else help me with compiling lcdproc?
[12:38] <jtslade> bod__, thanks.
[12:39] <bod__> RoadHazard: this is the only thing listed, and i have a 'parted' prompt -- Using /dev/hda
[12:39] <RoadHazard> type print
[12:39] <exxec> can anyone help with a partition-issue ?
[12:39] <NBrepresent> hi, i'm on xubuntu and noticing that the help for gnome applications doesn't work... i guess i need a package (something like gnome-help) but i can't find anything like that in synaptic... what do i need to get help working for gnome apps?
[12:39] <Squawk> !anyone | exxec
[12:39] <ubotu> exxec: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:40] <bod__> RoadHazard: it only shows hda which is a 40gig drive, my windows drive,.,.its not showing my 80ig ubuntu drive sda
[12:40] <bod__> jtslade:  ;-)
[12:40] <RoadHazard> select /dev/hdb
[12:40] <bod__> RoadHazard: type that?
[12:40] <RoadHazard> yessir
[12:41] <RoadHazard> then print again
[12:41] <bod__> Doesnt exist
[12:41] <exxec> i have a disk with an error on, but it works, and has some data on that i need. when i started ubuntu the was some disk-check program that said i could run a command which i dont remember was, and said i could ruin the partition. now the partition is unknown. is there any way i can specify what partition that SHOULD be, and access the data?
[12:42] <bod__> RoadHazard: although if i type select /dev/sda i get loadsa info on my 80gig drive ;-)
[12:42] <bod__> oh, then print
[12:42] <RoadHazard> ok what is the partition info on hda>?
[12:42] <myth-newb> autom4te: cannot openautom4te.cache/requests: permision denied
[12:42] <RoadHazard> err sda
[12:43] <NBrepresent> hi, i'm on xubuntu and noticing that the help for gnome applications doesn't work... i guess i need a package (something like gnome-help) but i can't find anything like that in synaptic... what do i need to get help working for gnome apps?
[12:43] <RoadHazard> bod this is curious, do you have a swap on that drive?
[12:44] <r45c4l> hey friends..i was thinking is it posible that i can install another linux distro on my present one without formating my HD and witthout loosing its contents
[12:44] <bod__> RoadHazard: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58866/
[12:44] <bod__> r45c4l: you could partition the drive 2 have 2 OS's yes
[12:44] <Dr_willis> r45c4l,  you can do a LOT if you know the ins and outs of linux.. :) just it may be more work then its worth.
[12:44] <pajamian> !xubuntu | NBrepresent
[12:44] <ubotu> NBrepresent: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[12:45] <bod__> RoadHazard: yes theres a 3 gig swap file
[12:45] <myth-newb> autom4te: cannot openautom4te.cache/requests: permision denied   aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
[12:45] <r45c4l> Dr_willis: i dont want a dual boot brother
[12:45] <bod__> myth-newb: run with sudo
[12:46] <GwaiLo> I have installed kde4... it works great inside Xephyr, but if I select it from KDM... it crashes (well, doesn't finish loading) and I need to ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x... any ideas where I could look for clues?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> r45c4l,  keeping a seperate /home partion comes in real handy in cases like this.
[12:46] <bod__> r45c4l: you can have a dual boot with 1 hard drive??
[12:46] <pajamian> bod_: yes, of course.
[12:46] <bod__> RoadHazard: what are you thinkin?? ;-)
[12:47] <r45c4l> actually i have ubuntu 7.10 on my present disk ....i downloaded mint...and i wantt to try it
[12:47] <bod__> pajamian: if only i had the space ,.,.;-)
[12:47] <pajamian> bod__: well there is that ;-)
[12:47] <r45c4l> the problem is mint is nott in the formate of live cd
[12:47] <RoadHazard> I dont see a problem with it yet, gimme a sec
[12:47] <bod__> kk
[12:47] <bod__> ty
[12:47] <myth-newb> bod_: i get about 5 permission denied errors now and autom4te: cannot open autom4te.cache/requests: permission denied and automake: autoconf failed with exit status: 1
[12:48] <bod__> myth-newb: you shouldnt have that if you run as root
[12:48] <exxec> anyone, is there a way to specify ext2 partition to a disk with data on it, where partition is "unknown" to gparted ?
[12:49] <RoadHazard> bod, your fstab pastebin cuts off at defaults, erro$ does it really say something like defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1?
[12:49] <pajamian> exxec: mount -t ext2
[12:49] <bod__> RoadHazard: il have annother look
[12:49] <myth-newb> bod_: i am running "sudo aclocal && automake && autoconf"
[12:49] <pajamian> myth-newb: only aclocal is running under sudo, then
[12:50] <Kopfgeldjaeger> mpd is very unstabel here :/
[12:50] <GarethAdams> hey :)
[12:50] <bod__> RoadHazard: yes it does....................
[12:50] <RoadHazard> hmmm
[12:50] <bod__> myth-newb: yer, but run all the commands as sudo, not just the first one
[12:50] <exxec> pajamian: with that command terminal doesnt reply anyhing. can u specify a little more, as i'm rather new to this ?
[12:50] <GarethAdams> if I `sudo adduser me a_group` is the only way to appear with that group to logout and log back in?
[12:51] <Flynsarmy> Is there any way to add alt+tab functionality to gedit so that you can change tabs easily?
[12:51] <Daniel88> does anybody know how to get flash working on firefox?? everytime when i am entering a flash site firefox is breaking down.. i need som help please!!!
[12:51] <myth-newb> bod_: so "sudo aclocal && sudo automake && sudo autoconf"?
[12:51] <kaxi2> i have changed my DNS server to opendns and despite this my ISP (college) is intercepting my requests to that server. does secure dns exist?
[12:51] <bod__> Daniel88: install the non-free flash plugin in the repo's
[12:52] <bod__> myth-newb: yep ;-)
[12:52] <pajamian> exxec: that was only part of the command, "man mount" to see how mount works.
[12:52] <exxec> k, will do
[12:52] <RoadHazard> in parted is the boot flag set to on on /dev/hda1?
[12:52] <bod__> myth-newb: you could do   sudo -su        (becoming root) then run the commands without the need of sudo
[12:52] <RoadHazard> not recommended practice
[12:53] <myth-newb> bod_: i am still getting permission denied, could i have screwed my build maybe i should recompile
[12:53] <pajamian> kaxi: how do you know your college is intercepting the requests to opendns?
[12:53] <bod__> RoadHazard: yes
[12:54] <cesar_bo> Hello, I am havins problems trying to do $sudo apt-get update, on a laptop I get Conection errors on every repositorie address, but I can browse on firefox, and get reponse doing ping to the servers on the source.list, What happens? I am very confuse :(
[12:54] <ttt--> are there any programs that measure internet traffic?
[12:54] <beautifulsnow> No one is available at #winehq so I thought I'd post here: I never had this problem with Wine+Guild Wars before, and I haven't made any changes to my system or Wine. I *THINK* I ran GW twice by accident (there can only be one copy at a time) and now when GW launches, it goes on the background, hidden from view, can't make it come on the screen, doesnt show on taskbar at all... but it is running (shows on system monitor) and I can
[12:54] <beautifulsnow> HEAR it in the background :P Help? ^_^;
[12:55] <RoadHazard> have you tried unplugging the windows drive and booting?
[12:56] <RaVen478> ny south-africans?
[12:56] <myth-newb> bod_: does this look like it worked? "server/drivers/Makefile.am:80: compiling `IOWarrior.c' with per-target flags requires ` AM_PROG_CC_C_O' in `configure.in'
[12:56] <bod__> RoadHazard: not since i fixed grub no,.,.do you think i should? the weird thing is, it says it cant mount it, but i can mount it from live cd....??...
[12:56] <bod__> myth-newb: no
[12:56] <myth-newb> bummer
[12:56] <RoadHazard> sudo nano /etc/mtab and pastebin it please
[12:57] <pajamian> beautifulsnow: try creating a new .wine directory and re-installing your app.
[12:57] <RoadHazard> or wherever your hard drive is living these days
[12:57] <myth-newb> bod_: any ideas, I am compiling lcdproc if that helps with the codeka patch v3
[12:58] <ubuntu_newbie> i did installing non-free, but my firefox is still breaking down..
[12:58] <bod__> RoadHazard: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58867/
[12:58] <bod__> RoadHazard: wait
[12:58] <bod__> RoadHazard: thats not the right one thats the live cd one,.,.hang on
[12:59] <hostname> is there a ubuntu package /pptpd +openvpn + firewall+router/ with web interface?
[12:59] <rnue035> http://tinyurl.com/ypgq7c
[12:59] <Laughed> prince: you still here
[13:00] <bod__> RoadHazard: here u go - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58868/
[13:00] <Laughed> Hey guys, is this supposed too be blank: /etc/usplash.conf
[13:00] <Laughed> to*
[13:01] <v3ctor> mine isnt
[13:01] <xander> hey how do i mkae kde appn's run on gnome
[13:01] <JC_Denton_> unable to run monodevelop 0.19: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for MonoDevelop.Core.Gui.Services ---> System.InvalidOperationException: Extension node not found in path: /MonoDevelop/Core/PlatformService
[13:01] <xander> is there any package to be installed???
[13:01] <bod__> Laughed: i suppose it might be if you havent installed usplash
[13:01] <Laughed> no
[13:01] <v3ctor> xander: you just need the kde apps installed
[13:02] <legend2440> RoadHazard:  I saw in an earlier post you said boot flags on is a bad idea. Why is that?
[13:02] <Laughed> bod:  shouldnt that have installed on a fresh install of the OS
[13:02] <xander> ok i have some pre-installed kde appn's but they arent running in gnome
[13:02] <xander> is there any soln for t??
[13:02] <RoadHazard> I dint say that, its gotta be on to boot
 http://tinyurl.com/ypgq7c
[13:02] <BernardB> Very nice
[13:02] <Laughed> bod: Im still learning whats the cmd to install usplash
[13:03] <v3ctor> xander: run them from a terminal and see what errors you et
[13:03] <v3ctor> get*
[13:03] <xander> ok
[13:03] <legend2440> RoadHazard:  ok  thx
[13:03] <RoadHazard> laughed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-usplash
[13:03] <pushax> what do people think of Icedtea-Java over Sun-Java?  Not sure which one I should elave on machine or use to start learnign Java.
[13:03] <hostname> give me a tutorial plese on how to have internet on a second pc
[13:03] <Laughed> ty hazard
[13:03] <xander> its working...
[13:04] <xander> thank u..
[13:04] <DJAdmiral> Hey, is there any utility for creating self-extracting archives in Linux?
[13:04] <Laughed> ty to bod
[13:04] <ompaul> pushax, what you do is try one evaluate it, and then try the other, evaluate that, then you make your own choice
[13:04] <RoadHazard> nothing appears to be wrong with your mtab bod, try unplugging the windows drive
[13:04] <DJAdmiral> pushax, use the official Java package. Other Java implementations are stable, but sometimes a little quirky, and don't always work as expected
[13:04] <co_cute> hai...gabung boleh
[13:04] <RoadHazard> but its hy00ge!
[13:04] <pushax> ompaul: the problem I have is that I want to only have one on my system while I do my hardest to eht firefox3 working with one.
[13:05] <bod__> RoadHazard: ok, cheers for helpin,.,. il be back in a bit ;-)
[13:05] <Laughed> Hey, RHazard: I got this - E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-usplash
[13:05] <RoadHazard> I'll be here
[13:05] <DJAdmiral> If you want your Java applications to truly run crossplatform, go for the official Java implementation. What other languages do you know, btw?
[13:05] <ompaul> DJAdmiral, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[13:05] <pushax> DJAdmiral: thanks.
[13:05] <RoadHazard> apt-cache search usplash
[13:05] <Laughed> Hazard: and the file is still empty =(
[13:05] <RoadHazard> I might be off on the name
[13:05] <DJAdmiral> Thanks ompaul
[13:06] <pushax> is there any easy way to get Firefox3 working with Java?
[13:06] <v3ctor> Laughed: sudo apt-get install usplash-theme-ubuntu
[13:06] <utgyuru> hi all
[13:06] <pushax> Firefox3 naturally looks for java in /usr/java which dosen't even exists
[13:06] <ompaul> pushax, your if you install it and you will be done with it and then the browser can pick it up
[13:06] <Laughed> nice vector: ty
[13:06] <utgyuru> someboy help me plz
[13:07] <RoadHazard> Laughed, sudo apt-get install usplash-theme-ubuntu
[13:07] <ompaul> !helpme | utgyuru
[13:07] <ubotu> utgyuru: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[13:07] <Laughed> ask away utgyuru, if these guys can help they will
[13:07] <utgyuru> i have ubuntu 7.10, and i have a 5.1 sound system with creative SB live! sound card
[13:07] <DJAdmiral> ompaul, I'm looking for self-extracting archive creation utilities on linux
[13:07] <pushax> ompaul: noep it doesn't find it for Java programs.
[13:07] <utgyuru> but i hasn't any sound :S
[13:07] <DJAdmiral> not plain old archives
[13:08] <Laughed> TY hazard
[13:08] <Laughed> Imtrying it now
[13:08] <DJAdmiral> pushax, you could create a symlink from /usr/java to wherever java is installed.
[13:08] <Laughed> Hazard and Vector: Success, ty
[13:08] <ompaul> DJAdmiral, well then I guess you have to scipt it yourself - i.e. no - because other than tar there is no reasonable expectation that tools will be there for you - and you can point and click on most archives these days
[13:09] <pushax> DJAdmiral: tried that but I don't understand Java enough to know what level of the directory to do.  Should I do the base dir of Java or right uptot the javaplugin file?
[13:09] <Laughed> But the friggin usplash is still blank, do I have to so somethign else
[13:09] <pajamian> DJAdmiral: I'm not aware that Linux has any, but then they're not really needed, pretty much everyone has tar and can open a .tar.gz file.
[13:09] <DJAdmiral> pushax: try the basedir. If that doesn't work, try another.
[13:09] <pushax> I also tried messing with the /etc/Alternatives but no luck.   I'm using Hardy Heron
[13:09] <Laughed> NM
[13:09] <Laughed> there it is.
[13:10] <ttt--> hi, how do i fix this? ValueError: the symlink /usr/bin/python does not point to the python default version. It must be reset to point to python2.5
[13:10] <DJAdmiral> pajamian, ompaul: I do understand that, yes, but I just wanted to know if there is such a utility
[13:10] <RoadHazard> DJAdmiral, get winrar/linux
[13:10] <pajamian> anyways, goodnight everyone
[13:11] <DJAdmiral> winrar makes SFX archives for linux?
[13:11] <v3ctor> ttt--: ls -l /usr/bin/python
[13:11] <DJAdmiral> Good night, pajamian
[13:11] <ttt--> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-02-13 10:05 /usr/bin/python -> /etc/alternatives/python
[13:12] <v3ctor> ttt--: ls -l /usr/bin/python2.5
[13:12] <Laughed> gusy, if I set the kernel to display at 1280x1024 and I set the usplash to display at 1920x1080, will  I have a problem
[13:12] <Laughed> gusy = guys
[13:12] <ttt--> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1158452 2007-10-05 16:17 /usr/bin/python2.5
[13:12] <Laughed> Hey night paja
[13:12] <wang_> list
[13:12] <RoadHazard> DJAdmiral, http://www.filesland.com/companies/RARLAB/products.html
[13:13] <jonathan_> hi
[13:13] <v3ctor> ttt--: `rm /usr/bin/python ; ln -s /usr/bin/python2.5 /usr/bin/python`
[13:13] <DJAdmiral> alright, thanks guys
[13:13] <jonathan_> anybody know how to install a new font?
[13:13] <v3ctor> ttt--: `sudo rm /usr/bin/python ; sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python2.5 /usr/bin/python`
[13:13] <v3ctor> sorry, forgot the sudo
[13:13] <jonathan_> I want to change desktop font style
[13:13] <ompaul> !fonts | jonathan_
[13:13] <ubotu> jonathan_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[13:13] <Laughed> rebooting brb
[13:13] <RoadHazard> laughed that might cause headache and heartache, yes
[13:13] <Laughed> dang
[13:14] <jonathan_> thx
[13:14] <ttt--> thanks a lot v3ctor!
[13:14] <v3ctor> np
[13:14] <hostname> !firewall
[13:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[13:14] <hostname> what is kerberos5?
[13:15] <hyder_> ok i've got a wireless usb beklin adapter instead of trying to get the realtek 8197 working
[13:15] <RoadHazard> its the evil encryption of the microsoft clan
[13:15] <hyder_> it says Bus 007 Device 004: ID 050d:7051 Belkin Components
[13:15] <hostname> please pay some attention to me
[13:15] <hostname> i have a prob and i cant figure it out
[13:15]  * RoadHazard pats hostname on the head
[13:15] <hostname> maybe with ur help
[13:15] <RoadHazard> whaddya got?
[13:15] <v3ctor> hostname: what is the problem?
[13:16] <hostname> so i got dhcp that give Ip to my second ip
[13:16] <nephtes> Hi folks, I've got a really trick problem...  I have xubuntu installed on an oldish Thinkpad (1066 Mhz Celeron, 256M RAM) and for some reason performance varies wildly
[13:16] <hostname> and ipmasq
[13:16] <hostname> and i want to have internet on my 2nd pc
[13:16] <nephtes> Sometimes it's nice and snappy, and others (like now) it's horribly slow
[13:17] <hostname> advices ..questions
[13:17] <nephtes> It's not because of swap thrashing either, the hdd is nearly idle
[13:17] <hyder_> can anyone please help?
[13:17] <RoadHazard> hostname, static ip
[13:17] <hostname> its static
[13:17] <RoadHazard> it cant be both dhcp and static
[13:17] <hostname> or whaut u meen..
[13:17] <nephtes> top doesn't show anything helpful, just the usual apps (mainly Firefox and Xorg) taking up way to much CPU% even at idle
[13:18] <nephtes> I've no idea how to attack this... any ideas?
[13:18] <bl4ckh3r0> ciao
[13:18] <RoadHazard> what is the ip thats being given to the second puter  by dhcp?
[13:18] <hostname> 192.168.234.1 eth1
[13:19] <hostname> XX.XX.XX.XX eth0 (internet comes) configured by DHCP from ISP
[13:19] <RoadHazard> ok sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin it wouldja?
[13:19] <ompaul> !it | bl4ckh3r0
[13:19] <ubotu> bl4ckh3r0: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:19] <RoadHazard> oh you are trying to get 2 machines to work without a router?
[13:19] <flowOver> i'm back to say my problem was that the nvidia-glx-new drivers were the problem.  after i installed nvidia-glx it has gone away
[13:19] <hostname> i machine
[13:19] <bod__> RoadHazard: hey dude, ive got a new error for ya,.,.hehe,.,. Error21: Selected location does not exist   !!!!
[13:20] <mohbana__> hello
[13:20] <hostname> in intercafes i have auto lo
[13:20] <hostname> euto eth0
[13:20] <flowOver> it was not my ram.  just the wrong restricted driver installed by default.
[13:20] <RoadHazard> ok you did grub install on the windows boot sector bod
[13:20] <mohbana__> hello
[13:20] <hostname> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:20] <mohbana__> are you guys robots
[13:20] <hostname> and eth1
[13:20] <RoadHazard> nope I'm real live geek
[13:20] <hostname> iface eth1 inet static
[13:20] <mohbana__> kool
[13:20] <hostname> address 192.168.234.1
[13:20] <hostname> netmask ...
[13:20] <bod__> RoadHazard: what? i dont know? i never managed to get that damn command to work
[13:21] <RoadHazard> hmmm and which interface is plugged into the net?
[13:21] <mohbana__> how comes you guys type so quick
[13:21] <hostname> eth 0
[13:21] <bod__> RoadHazard: could the super grub disc help me here?
[13:21] <RoadHazard> it could but that would be going overboard
[13:21] <bod__> RoadHazard: is my problem easily fixed then?
[13:22] <hostname> what shall i do?
[13:22] <hostname> shall i confgure eth0 fron interfaces and not from dhcp?
[13:22] <mohbana__> hu has an msn here
[13:22] <mohbana__> who has a msn
[13:23] <mohbana__> poo
[13:23] <mohbana__> pooooo
[13:23] <mohbana__> poooooooooooo
[13:23] <ompaul> !offtopic | mohbana__
[13:23] <ubotu> mohbana__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:23] <mohbana__> pooooooooooo
[13:23] <mohbana__> poop
[13:23] <mohbana__> opppppo
[13:23] <FloodBot2> mohbana__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <sigp239> Hi I can't install ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64
[13:24] <bod__> RoadHazard: ???
[13:24] <bod__> !elaborate > sigp239       please read pm from ubotu
[13:24] <RoadHazard> boot it with the livecd without the windows disk and follow the instructions on this page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-258284.html
[13:24] <azuki> linux security issue question --> system slowdown...
[13:25] <bod__> RoadHazard: i am booted without the windows drive,.,.will do the reading now ;-)
[13:25] <SlayerFaith> !dchp
[13:25] <RoadHazard> k
[13:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dchp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:25] <azuki> I installed a new HD and wireless adapter, then system slowed down, turned of wireless still does it
[13:25] <hostname> azuki check if ur box was hacked
[13:25] <SlayerFaith> !dhcp
[13:25] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[13:25] <azuki> how can I check that
[13:25] <hostname> look in var log
[13:25] <RoadHazard> azuki, try removing the wireless adapter
[13:26] <sigp239> When I click Start or Install afer booting from the ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64 CD, the screen goes black forever.  I also tried the safe graphics mode, and it has the same problem.
[13:26] <marx2k> If I want to run "par2 r" on every file that matches *.par2 in a directory, how would I do that?
[13:26] <RoadHazard> sigp239, what type of graphics adapter do you have in that box>
[13:26] <RoadHazard> par2 r *.par2
[13:27] <RoadHazard> methinks
[13:27] <marx2k> RoadHazard Hmmm... Im not sure if thats what I want to do though.. let me check
[13:27] <hostname> i found my prob
[13:27] <sigp239> RoadHazard:  I have a GeForce 8800GTX
[13:27] <RoadHazard> woot!
[13:27] <hostname> in syslog ..
[13:27] <hostname> Kernel fell off input ...
[13:28] <marx2k> Hm... ok... I need par2 to work on those files one at a time, so the actual program par2 cannot take wildcards
[13:28] <ePax> Is there some kiba-dock howto that works on Gutsy?
[13:28] <azuki> I should check the kernel log?
[13:28] <RoadHazard> sigp239, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665018
[13:28] <marx2k> so I need to somehow redirect *.par2 to the par2 program so it does it one at a time
[13:28] <hostname> cat /var/log/sylog |grep sshd:
[13:28] <RoadHazard> I use parbuddy and wine
[13:29] <marx2k> RoadHazard yeah... I like par2, and it's fast in bash :)
[13:29] <RoadHazard> true
[13:29] <marx2k> So... how do we have a program act on all the files of a specific wildcard in a directory, but one at a time?
[13:30] <prince_jammys> marx2k: files=(*); for file in "${files[@]}; do par2 "$file"; done
[13:30] <marx2k> like how do we have the 'rm' command delete all files in a directory without doing "rm *"?
[13:30] <marx2k> prince: whoa...
[13:30] <hostname> so i i do iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[13:30] <magic> is it ubuntu ultimate good or bad stuff?
[13:30] <hostname> i should have internet on client pc?
[13:30] <prince_jammys> marx2k: files=(*); for file in "${files[@]}"; do par2 "$file"; done    i was missing a quote
[13:31] <RoadHazard> hostname, can you ping an ip address?
[13:31] <hostname> yes
[13:31] <RoadHazard> can you ping google.com?
[13:31] <marx2k> prince: that brings me to a > prompt
[13:31] <azuki> so.. I checked the syslog and the kernel log
[13:31] <sigp239> RoadHazard:  I can't see anything on that link that is helpful to me.
[13:31] <hostname> from client pc no
[13:31] <hostname> from ubuntu yes
[13:31] <azuki> what should I look for
[13:31] <prince_jammys> marx2k: because i was missing a quote in the first one i posted
[13:31] <hostname> a successful login
[13:31] <hostname> azuki
[13:32] <RoadHazard> set the client to static ip of 192.168.234.100
[13:32] <bod__> RoadHazard: the link you ave me was for a diff problem, but i googled about and found an ubuntu forums post,.,.looks usfull and im following the link thats on the forum -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478349
[13:32] <RoadHazard> sorry just caught the beginning of it
[13:32] <Otacon22> mi pare
[13:32] <marx2k> ahhhhhh there we go... that worked :) Thanks prince_jammys ;) Perl to the rescue
[13:33] <prince_jammys> marx2k: what's par2?
[13:33] <magic> is it ubuntu ultimate good or bad stuff?
[13:33] <willis_> magic,  i dont see much need for it.,
[13:33] <marx2k> Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of fil
[13:33] <marx2k> es
[13:33] <RoadHazard> its down with the goodness man
[13:33] <marx2k> !Par2
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about par2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <willis_> magic,  its ubuntu + tons of stuff that you proberly dont need.
[13:33] <marx2k> !Par
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about par - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <prince_jammys> !info par2
[13:33] <ubotu> par2 (source: par2cmdline): Parity Archive Volume Set, for checking and repair of files. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4-9 (gutsy), package size 107 kB, installed size 284 kB
[13:33] <marx2k> grr
[13:33] <FloodBot2> marx2k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <magic> so its ubnuntu gutsy best of it ?
[13:33] <Otacon22> mi pare
[13:34] <azuki> found user?
[13:34] <willis_> magic,  best depends on your needs. :) i perfer to download a 700mb cd.. instead of a 4gb dvd image
[13:34] <RoadHazard> I am assuming here that marx is grabbin off the usenet?
[13:34] <azuki> it says found user and then a username I don't know
[13:35] <magic> yes i know but is it best ubuntu gutsy or ultimate whats tha difrents ?
[13:35] <geirha> !gutsy | magic
[13:35] <ubotu> magic: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[13:35] <sigp239> When I click Start or Install afer booting from the ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64 CD, the screen goes black forever.  I also tried the safe graphics mode, and it has the same problem.
[13:35] <willis_> magic,  i would say read on the ubuntu ultimate web page.. last i looked they just included tons of packages.. of which most people dont need by default anyway
[13:35] <hostname> ok i got 192.168.123.100 on client now ..no dhcp
[13:35] <RoadHazard> welcome back hostname
[13:35] <magic> i got gutsy on pc but im lookin at images of ultimate
[13:35] <marx2k> prince_jammys basically, if you download from newsgroups a lot, you get a a bunch of rar files along with their corresponding par files. if any of those rar files are damaged, you can run par2 (or any parity checking program) on those par2 files, it will then scan the rar set and repair any broken files and even create missing files if you have enough par files
[13:35] <RoadHazard> does it work?
[13:35] <hostname> no
[13:35] <prince_jammys> marx2k: the loop should have been files=(*.par2) now that i reread your question
[13:36] <marx2k> prince: It's fine, it seems to be working
[13:36] <RoadHazard> I thought that dhcp was giving you 192.168.234.1
[13:36] <hostname> no it gave me .13
[13:36] <prince_jammys> marx2k: i see
[13:36] <azuki> how can I protect myself from hackers?
[13:36] <hostname> RoadHazard would u Pm me pls?
[13:36] <marx2k> azuki: use linux ;)
[13:36] <hostname> filter port 22 ssh
[13:36] <RoadHazard> pull the network cable out
[13:37] <RoadHazard> k
[13:37] <willis_> wear body armour :)
[13:37] <os2mac> my audio has quit working.... any ideas on t/s?
[13:37] <brobostigon> azuki: use unix/linux, and a good setup firewall
[13:37] <hostname> look on google how to filter port 22 or change it
[13:37] <bod__> RoadHazard: right im rebooting to find out if its worked this time,.,. il keep you posted on my proress,. and il possibly make a forum post of my adventures if i get it fixed ;|)
[13:37] <azuki> hostname: how would a login generally look in the syslog?
[13:37] <bod__> ;-)*
[13:37] <RoadHazard> good deal
[13:38] <marx2k> I say use linux and close all ports on your router
[13:38] <peppegaia> ciao a tutti
[13:38] <Laughed> I am using an ATI Card: Should I install the restricted drivers first and enable them, than install envy, or should I enstall envy first then the restricted drivers, or should I just install one?
[13:38] <geirha> azuki: logins are logged in /var/log/auth.log
[13:38] <marx2k> Laughed: I would not use envy
[13:38] <IndyGunFreak> Laughed: well, thats easy,k DO NOT use envy
[13:38] <ompaul> !envy | Laughed
[13:38] <ubotu> Laughed: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> os2mac, It seems alsa needs to be compiled after a kernel update..
[13:38] <brobostigon> !envy | Laughed
[13:39] <jrib> Laughed: use restricted drivers and never bother with envy
[13:39] <ompaul> !it | peppegaia
[13:39] <RoadHazard> !envy
[13:39] <ubotu> peppegaia: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:39] <IndyGunFreak> ok, i think he gets the point...lol
[13:39] <Laughed> tys for the feedback guys.
[13:39] <os2mac> Jack_Sparrow: how does one go about doing that?
[13:39] <ompaul> RoadHazard, a bit previous ;-)
[13:39] <hostname> RoadHazard my IP is 78.96.160.62
[13:39] <hostname> i make u a user on my box
[13:39] <hostname> ?
[13:39] <peppegaia> aiutami come devo fare
[13:39] <hostname> look around
[13:40] <Itaku> help im on live cd and i forgot my root pass and username how do i reset it i know there was a way like chmod or chroot or whatever the command is.
[13:40] <v3ctor> hostname: are you still just trying to share you connection?
[13:40] <Laughed> I do want to use comp fusion, would that be enough for 3d rendering
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow> os2mac, #Alsa channel has been very helpful...  There are scripts being worked on to help automate the process...
[13:40] <hostname> yes :)
[13:40] <v3ctor> hostname: http://24.208.202.166/IPTABLES
[13:40] <jrib> Itaku: ubuntu doesn't have a root password set by default
[13:40] <willis_> Itaku,  you can 'chroot' to the mounted/installed system then use the passwd command.
[13:40] <v3ctor> that is what i use
[13:40] <brobostigon> Itaku: well you shouldnt have a root password anyway, you should be using sudo.
[13:40] <Itaku> pl ty
[13:40] <ompaul> !sudo | Itaku
[13:40] <ubotu> Itaku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:40] <azuki> reinstalling the kernel, would that fix any damage?..
[13:41] <v3ctor> hostname: you will obvioously need to change the interfaces
[13:41] <marx2k> prince_jammys haha ok you may have been right with the loop modification needed since it was doing the same files over and over and over
[13:41] <ompaul> Itaku, read that page it may help you
[13:41] <Laughed> is prince jammys here???
[13:41] <prince_jammys> marx2k: files=(*) makes an array of all files and subdirs in the current dir
[13:41] <Itaku> its my computer i can do whatever i want with it
[13:41] <prince_jammys> Laughed: yeah
[13:41] <Laughed> there he is.. whats up prince J.
[13:42] <prince_jammys> hello
[13:42] <RoadHazard> hostname, and you can get out on that ip?
[13:42] <Flynsarmy> Can anyone recommend a good IRC client besides Chatzilla? I used the pidgin one for a little but but i don't htink it beeps you when your name is mentioned the way Chatzilla does
[13:42] <marx2k> prince_jammys: Ah I didnt know * did recursive
[13:42] <prince_jammys> marx2k: no, not recursive
[13:42] <hostname> no
[13:42] <marx2k> Flynsarmy Xchat
[13:42] <marx2k> Konversation
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, THere are lots  Xchat, Konversation  are both popular
[13:42] <RoadHazard> hrm
[13:43] <lesshaste> how do I get wireless networking setup? Running nm-applet doesn't seem to do anything
[13:43] <prince_jammys> marx2k: i meant files and directories, but not the directories' contents
[13:43] <marx2k> prince_jammys ah ok
[13:43] <hostname> that example did not helped ..
[13:43] <Flynsarmy> Jack_Sparrow: marx2k Thanks i'll check them out
[13:43] <prince_jammys> marx2k: so you want *.par2 so it does it only on dotpar2 files
[13:43] <RoadHazard> hostname, you can be pinged from here, thats curious, do you have dns set up?
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, both can be added with sudo apt-get
[13:43] <marx2k> prince_jammys : indeed
[13:43] <hostname> yes
[13:43] <brobostigon> lesshaste: run dmesg and lshw, to see if you adaptor is actually recogmized.
[13:43] <hostname> that,s the ip of the ubuntu box
[13:43] <RoadHazard> and it will ping an IP address?
[13:44] <hostname> pm me i give u user
[13:44] <hostname> so u can see all its correct
[13:44] <hostname> but not working
[13:44] <prince_jammys> marx2k: if you want recursive:  find . -name '*,par2' -exec par2 {} \;     i think
[13:44] <ompaul> hostname, that is a bad idea as you don't know who or what you are letting onto your machine
[13:45] <lesshaste> brobostigon,  product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection
[13:45] <marx2k> prince_jammys how long have you been working with perl
[13:45] <prince_jammys> marx2k: it's not perl, bash
[13:45] <lesshaste> brobostigon, I don't even have an icon showing the wired networking....which is working
[13:45] <hostname> i dont mid he can erase all ..
[13:45] <marx2k> oh thats just bash scripting?
[13:45] <brobostigon> lesshaste: what its assigned /dev/*** file??
[13:45] <prince_jammys> marx2k: that's regular old bash
[13:45] <hostname> i just wanna know why it dint worked
[13:45] <ryanzec> i am running ubuntu 7.10 and i just downloaded an icon set, but how do i install it?  I check in apperance but nothing there shows up for icons?
[13:45] <marx2k> hmm
[13:45] <prince_jammys> marx2k: should be .par2 (i typed a comma instead)
[13:45] <RoadHazard> could you pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces from the disfunctional machine?
[13:46] <hostname> i use irssi
[13:46] <marx2k> nah i dont need to do recursive
[13:46] <lesshaste> brobostigon, [   15.456000] iwl4965: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN driver for Linux, 1.1.0
[13:46] <lesshaste> brobostigon, so all looks good in dmesg
[13:46] <lesshaste> brobostigon, maybe it would work if I knew the right app to get it started?
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanzec, drop tar onto the theme window and go to customize
[13:47] <hostname> kernel: [ 4543.504409] device eth0 entered promiscuous mode
[13:47] <brobostigon> lesshaste: what is its assigned dev file, and try wifi radar
[13:48] <JacksDepression> Whats the name of a fun deb that will add desktop effects to my KDE UI?
[13:48] <prince_jammys> JacksDepression: kooldock is an animated dock
[13:48] <JacksDepression> thanks prince_jammys
[13:48] <RoadHazard> hostname, that ip address is a real live routable ip from  your ISP I'm thinking, you're trying to run 2 machines? is there a router in the play?
[13:48] <lesshaste> brobostigon, wifi-radar seems to work and see my network
[13:49] <spark_> hey guys
[13:49] <spark_> got a problem with 5.1 sound and my terratec aureon 5.1. since i tried to install my dvbt stick i got only stereo sound. anyone knows how i can get 5.1 sound again?
[13:49] <hostname> no
[13:49] <spark_> ok
[13:49] <RoadHazard> well theres an issue, something is going to have to route for 2 machines
[13:49] <prince_jammys> JacksDepression: it's one of those mac style docks that zooms in on the icon
[13:49] <brobostigon> lesshaste: thats promising
[13:49] <ryanzec> jack_sparrow, i drop it in the for tab(theme) and it tells me the file format is invalid and it is a .tar
[13:49] <Na-Fiann> Hi, does anyone know how i can install something from source in such a way that it can easily be removed again? for example through aptitude?
[13:50] <lesshaste> brobostigon, shouldn't nm-applet work?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanzec, What kind of an ivon theme is it and where did you get it
[13:50] <marx2k> Na-Fiann Yeah you can use... uhh... hang on
[13:50] <RoadHazard> Na-Fiann, ./configure then checkinstall
[13:50] <hostname> ?
[13:50] <Na-Fiann> checkinstall?
[13:50] <brobostigon> lesshaste: its doesnt work for me, i just hardcode my settings into interfaces
[13:50] <Na-Fiann> ill see what it is, thanks:)
[13:50] <prince_jammys> !info checkinstall | Na-Fiann
[13:50] <RoadHazard> yup, you might need to install checkinstall first though
[13:50] <ubotu> na-fiann: checkinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-4ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 113 kB, installed size 544 kB
[13:50] <ompaul> Na-Fiann, that is correct
[13:50] <ryanzec> black and white 2 neon from gnome-look.org, does it matter i am using compiz?
[13:50] <lesshaste> brobostigon, or is there some other tool... it works on my other laptop :)
[13:51] <marx2k> yes, checkinstall
[13:51] <hostname> RoadHazard pm me
[13:51] <ompaul> !checkinstall | Na-Fiann
[13:51] <ubotu> Na-Fiann: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[13:51] <prince_jammys> ah, even better
[13:51] <brobostigon> lesshaste: wifi radar is probebly your best choice
[13:51] <RoadHazard> I have been
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> ty everyone:) ill install it:)
[13:51] <lesshaste> brobostigon, ok... but it doesn't show a little icon in the bar at the top right?
[13:52] <Laughed> prince: you wouldnt know of any other fixes for the splash screen, the link Im using didnt work out
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanzec, thems behave differently when using compiz yes...  you may want to /join #Compiz   to fine tune that
[13:52] <marx2k> checkinstall works "Most Of The Time", but works well when it does
[13:52] <brobostigon> llesshaste: thats correct
[13:52] <lesshaste> brobostigon, also I don't understand the "Driver" question in the WPA section of wifi-radar
[13:53] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to hide joine/leave messages in XChat? Chatzilla wasn't showing htem but this one is
[13:53] <brobostigon> lesshaste: read wifi radars man page, run man wifi-radar in terminal
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, right click the tab and hide them,  (I use tabs in xcaht)
[13:54] <RoadHazard> oh hostname, I'm pm'ing you
[13:54] <marx2k> Ive totally stopped using gui irc clients and went back to BitchX
[13:54] <lesshaste> brobostigon, that looks like a pain!
[13:54] <ryanzec> acutallu i figured it out, the .tar file hade a .tar.gz which was teh file i needed to drap into the theme window, that worked, thanks
[13:55] <marx2k> Why would they tar a tar.gz file?
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanzec, Glad you got it
[13:55] <brobostigon> lesshaste: however reading wifi radars manual will give yu the info you need
[13:55] <Itaku> how can i look in the history of the terminal. nit .bash_history but like everything typed even in the passwd command?
[13:55] <prince_jammys> Itaku: type "history"
[13:55] <marx2k> Itaku: !history
[13:55] <joe__> Hi all, i had a question.  When switching between users on ubuntu 7.10 I frequently either get a white or brown screen with only the mouse, doesn't bootup taskbar, icons, etc.  Anyone know what the problem could be?
[13:56] <marx2k> you can also re-issue commands by their history number
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> marx2k, Agreed, it does not make sense
[13:56] <jrib> Itaku: pretty sure you can't
[13:56] <lesshaste> brobostigon, I mean getting wpa-psk to work in wifi-radar looks like a pain
[13:56] <Itaku> see i got someone who changed my pass
[13:56] <Itaku> i want to know who
[13:56] <Itaku> and what to
[13:56] <prince_jammys> Itaku: oh, you can't do that with history
[13:56] <marx2k> Itaku: You would need a keylogging program
[13:56] <brobostigon> lesshaste: i use wep,
[13:56] <lesshaste> brobostigon, you might as well use nothing :)
[13:56] <ompaul> !offtopic | Itaku
[13:56] <ubotu> Itaku: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:57] <lesshaste> I am trying to run nm-applet but it does nothing, i mean no app comes up and no icon appears
[13:57] <sigp239> When I click Start or Install afer booting from the ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64 CD, the screen goes black forever.  I also tried the safe graphics mode, and it has the same problem.
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Itaku, We talked about that yesterday, you are not going to be able to find out the password, only change / reset it or add another user with admin rights
[13:57] <lesshaste> this is on a fresh gutsy install
[13:57] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[13:58] <RoadHazard> lesshaste boot into recovery mode and use the root account to reset the pw
[13:58] <umc> hello. can someone recommend a nice player that works with subtitles ?
[13:58] <Itaku> im trying to get what was typed in the passwd command
[13:58] <lesshaste> RoadHazard which password? I have the sudo password if that is what you mean
[13:58] <Flynsarmy> Jack_Sparrow: Right clicking '#ubuntu' on the left just brings up leave, close, autojoin, find. I'm using xchat-gnome
[13:58] <Itaku> there has to be a way
[13:58] <marx2k> Itaku: There isnt
[13:58] <v3ctor> Itaku: not possible
[13:58] <geirha> lesshaste: then it probably can't find any network cards (I think it won't show up in such a case)
[13:58] <marx2k> You would have had to have had a keylogging program running at that time
[13:59] <lesshaste> geirha, oh.. that's pretty poor!
[13:59] <ompaul> Itaku, not possible -  you would need the password if there was a way
[13:59] <RoadHazard> lesshaste then you have no worries
[13:59] <amenado> Itaku no, the function on C to get that passwd keeps that display blank
[13:59] <geirha> lesshaste: does ifconfig -a list anything other than the lo device?
[13:59] <Itaku> ompaul i have my password
[13:59] <Itaku> and root password
[13:59] <lesshaste> geirha,  ifconfig -a list
[13:59] <lesshaste> list: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[13:59] <lesshaste> geirha, wifi-radar can see my home network
[13:59] <marx2k> if you have root password, just use it to change your password to what you want
[13:59] <ompaul> Itaku, then if someone else changed them you need to change them and then please drop the subject
[14:00] <lesshaste> RoadHazard, nm-applet doesn't do anything
[14:00] <geirha> lesshaste: "ifconfig -a", sorry
[14:00] <lesshaste> geirha, it shows lots of things including wlan0
[14:00] <v3ctor> Itaku: to change your password, they need to have either 1) your passwd 2) root access
[14:01] <Itaku> they hacked me
[14:01] <Itaku> theres this one hacker out for me
[14:01] <prince_jammys> then you have bigger problems
[14:01] <geirha> lesshaste: oh, then it seems to have found your wireless card. "ps -ef | grep nm-applet" does this show nm-applet running?
[14:01] <lesshaste> geirha, http://pastebin.ca/933793
[14:02] <nei_rauni> how i active the gd
[14:02] <RoadHazard> if you got hacked its time to ffr
[14:02] <v3ctor> Itaku: if you have been hacked, you need to reinstall
[14:02] <Itaku> they just changed the pass
[14:02] <lesshaste> geirha, hang on... shall I run "nm-applet &" ?
[14:02] <v3ctor> Itaku: that you know of
[14:02] <RoadHazard> and root kitted you
[14:02] <ompaul> Itaku, __if__ you have been hacked then reinstall from known good media nothing is secure, anything else is fruitless, you are now offtopic
[14:02] <Itaku> ill do a search
[14:02] <nei_rauni> it already installed, but not active
[14:02] <geirha> lesshaste: sure, try before and after
[14:02] <hostname> how i pm on irssi?
[14:02] <sigp239> After booting from the ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64 CD and clicking Start/Instal, the screen turns black forever.  Same thing happens in safe graphics mode.  Anyone know what the problem is?
[14:02] <jrib> hostname: /msg
[14:02] <v3ctor> hostname: /msg <user>
[14:02] <Itaku> hostname: /msg
[14:03] <hottium> sigp239: have you checked if the cd was correctly burned?
[14:03] <v3ctor> hostname: is your nick registered?
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sigp239, Start with this.. at start or install press F6 and remove splash and quiet from the command line.
[14:03] <hostname> no
[14:03] <v3ctor> then you can't pm
[14:03] <bloony> which program do I need from the vmware site to run linux on windows host? I've looked at the site, but its so many different things to dl there
[14:03] <amenado> ompaul maybe just to prove it to himself that he cannot retrieve the root password, let him continue the struggle, experience is best teacher sometimes
[14:03] <audiosensecd> hi there guys i've got still the same common prob. here
[14:04] <sigp239> hottium>  yes the CD is correctly burned, it works on my wife's Dell computer.
[14:04] <audiosensecd> my monitor seem work on 800x600
[14:04] <hostname>  /msg nickserv register ..or ?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sigp239, Do you get to start or install screen
[14:04] <jrib> !enter | audiosensecd
[14:04] <ubotu> audiosensecd: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:04] <lesshaste> geirha, clifford  8562  7909  8 14:04 pts/1    00:00:00 nm-applet
[14:04] <sigp239> Jack_Sparrow>  how do I remove splash and quiet from the command line?
[14:04] <Itaku> !register | hostname
[14:04] <ubotu> hostname: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[14:04] <sigp239> Jack_Sparrow>   yes I get the first menu screen with the choices to Start/Install, Safe Graphics Mode, etc.
[14:04] <RoadHazard> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:04] <geirha> lesshaste: ok, so it's running, but you don't see it on the panel ... hm
[14:05] <RoadHazard> thats where it lives isnt it?
[14:05] <lesshaste> geirha, exactly
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sigp239, At start or install press F6 and remove splash and quiet from the command line.
[14:05] <audiosensecd> amenado:  buddy how do i solve this kind of common prob
[14:05] <sigp239> Jack_Sparrow>   I'll try that and then come back. Thanks.
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sigp239, one sec
[14:06] <geirha> lesshaste: right click the panel and select add to panel. Then add the "notification area" in case it somehow has been removed
[14:06] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  help me pls
[14:06] <mattaexx> ciao raga
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, What is the question
[14:06] <mattaexx> what?
[14:06] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  I got on low resulotion again
[14:07] <mattaexx> .
[14:07] <RoadHazard> audiosensecd, what is the maximum resolution of your monitor>
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, Silly you.. dont do that...  Sorry.. a little humor...
[14:07] <myth-newb> help with my lcd i can get it to display "lcd proc server" and it displays the time when it is shutdown. But i cannot get it to do anything else and i have set it up in mythtv set>appearance>enable lcd
[14:07] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  800X600
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, Please post your xorg.conf to the pastebin...
[14:08] <RoadHazard> and your resolution is at 640x480 now?
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, You can make that process easier by sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:08] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  how? i'm a newbie ubuntu user
[14:08] <Pulica> RoadHazard u got my pm?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, you do that in a terminal..   after that type or paste this into terminal and it will give you a link to give me   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[14:09] <RoadHazard> yes I did, what would you like me to do with that information?
[14:10] <Pulica> if u want
[14:10] <Pulica> log in with shh
[14:10] <Pulica> into y box and look around
[14:10] <marx2k> its be nice if linux had a rar program with the gui niceness of WinRar :(
[14:10] <marx2k> It'd
[14:10] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  done know nothing happen
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, type or paster the second command
[14:11] <Pulica> marx2k it does have
[14:11] <marx2k> Pulica: Oh yeah? Which one?
[14:11] <geirha> marx2k: there's Q7Z, but it's not in the ubuntu repositories
[14:11] <Pulica> archive manager
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !p7zip
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p7zip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  this one ----at /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[14:11] <marx2k> Pulica: I think archive manager has an awful gui
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Iinfo p7zip
[14:11] <marx2k> geirha: does the homepage have a deb?
[14:11] <Pulica> its useful
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> arrrgh sorry
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !info p7zip
[14:12] <ubotu> p7zip (source: p7zip): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.51~dfsg.1-1 (gutsy), package size 304 kB, installed size 900 kB
[14:12] <marx2k> Pulica: Yeah, but the GUI is just a bar scrolling left to right and back again when it decompresses..
[14:12] <geirha> marx2k: yes. First hit on google
[14:12] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  this one ----cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit this one i mean
[14:12] <marx2k> geirha: Ill try it out right now, thanks!
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, yep please
[14:13] <bullgard4> Does Ubuntu provide other session managers besides /usr/bin/gnome-session?
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, Use shift to paste into a terminal
[14:13] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  it responses like this ---- at /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[14:13] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  it responses like this ---- http://paste.stgraber.org/1311
[14:14] <Pulica> RoadHazard u can use sudo too...my client ip = 192.168.234.100
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> that is what I wanted
[14:14] <myth-newb> LCD problems if I type "sudo LCDd -f -r 4" i get "lcdproc server" displayed on my lcd. But that is about all i can do no mythtv output.
[14:14] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  sorry
[14:14] <marx2k> haha damn, Q7Z wont install on 64 bit architecture :/
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, what is your monitor type and do you have a link to a spec sheet on it
[14:16] <guja> hi i'm wondering how do you change the java stack size
[14:16] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow: yes i have a link
[14:16] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  it responses like this ---- http://paste.stgraber.org/1311
[14:16] <ompaul> guja, ask in #java
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, I got the link to your xorg...  need one for your monitor
[14:16] <Na-Fiann> The xmms2 version in the ubuntu repositories is very old, where can I ask to have this updated?
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, look that up and I will be right back
[14:17] <guja> ok sory
[14:17] <magic> any from slovenia?
[14:17] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  my monitor got compaq V570 15"
[14:17] <ompaul> Na-Fiann, it won't be as development of xmms has stopped in its place are several other audio tools - use your favorite tools to search for audio
[14:17] <guja> magic: I am from slovenia
[14:18] <Eulex> ompaul, xmms != xmms2
[14:18] <le_renouveau> Hello, anyone familiar with VMWare? I try to power on my first virtual machine it flashes black a second then back to the regular screen.
[14:18] <Na-Fiann> thx eulex
[14:18] <danand_> Itaku - you there?
[14:18] <magic> can i ask u somethin.... bout my graphic
[14:18] <marx2k> le_renouveau run vmware from shell and see what debug messages come up
[14:18] <le_renouveau> kk 1 sec
[14:18] <Eulex> ompaul, xmms_2_ is actively developed
[14:18] <Pulica> RoadHazard u saw whats my prob?
[14:18] <guja> magic, ask doubt i can help
[14:18] <paolo969it> hi all
[14:18] <magic> guja: gorenjska?
[14:18] <ompaul> Eulex, ahh
[14:18] <paolo969it> sorry but i need help
[14:19] <magic> in slo ?
[14:19] <magic> :D
[14:19] <guja> magic, ne primorska
[14:19] <RoadHazard> I believe so, I edited your interfaces file, copy it to /etc/network
[14:19] <magic> aha
[14:19] <ompaul> Na-Fiann, in that case, given I have been corrected, get it into debian then it will trickle into ubuntu
[14:19] <paolo969it> i was looking for italian chat but i couldnt find
[14:19] <magic> ej mam problem
[14:19] <magic> grafika
[14:19] <Na-Fiann> it already is in debian:p
[14:19] <marx2k> !it
[14:19] <paolo969it> this is the problem
[14:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:19] <magic> prej je bla res. 1600* zdej je pa sam 1200
[14:19] <le_renouveau> marx2k: No error message...
[14:19] <Na-Fiann> guess i dont understand the trickle part then:p
[14:19] <danand_> Does anyone know if Itaku managed to reset his password?
[14:19] <marx2k> le_renouveau time to start googling ;)
[14:19] <paolo969it> i dont know exactly what i touched or changed but
[14:20] <ompaul> !sk | magic
[14:20] <ubotu> magic: Žiadame slovenských používateľov aby v kanáli #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a česky sa dohovoríte v #ubuntu-cz.
[14:20] <magic> lol ok :D
[14:20] <paolo969it> i cant see the icon of the window on the bar below
[14:20] <magic> #ubuntu.si
[14:20] <ompaul> Na-Fiann, join #ubuntu-motu and get help there in working out how to do such a trick
[14:20] <magic> ups
[14:20] <magic> sorry
[14:20] <Na-Fiann> thanks
[14:20] <paolo969it> when i minimize a window that window disappears
[14:21] <paolo969it> (sorry for my bad english)
[14:21] <ompaul> Na-Fiann, before you do get a logon to launchpad.net
[14:21] <paolo969it> and then i lose each window when i minimize it
[14:21] <paolo969it> what happened?
[14:21] <le_renouveau> marx2k: I just noticed that my cdrom, floppy and ethernet icons at the bottom right have a red X on them
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd,    "COMPAQ V570" HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0             your settings are wrong...  they should look more like these  http://paste.stgraber.org/1316
[14:21] <bullgard4> Does Ubuntu provide other session managers besides /usr/bin/gnome-session?
[14:21] <dsl_> paolo969it: you need to right click on the bottom panel and add it
[14:21] <marx2k> hey Jack_Sparrow, I need your expertise again... here's what you gave me last time.. files=(*.par2); for file in "${files[@]}"; do par2 r "$file"; done
[14:21] <paolo969it> what please
[14:22] <marx2k> how do you get it to do *.par2 but not *01.par2?
[14:22] <prince_jammys> paolo969it: do you have a panel?  right click on it and add the taskbar
[14:22] <dsl_> paolo969it: i forgot what its called ...sorry
[14:22] <prince_jammys> marx2k: that was me
[14:22] <dsl_> paolo969it: look through all the things you can add to the panel
[14:22] <marx2k> oh sorry prince_jammys
[14:22] <paolo969it> the bar is there ( i mean the bar below)
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, from terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      and make those changes
[14:23] <paolo969it> but the icon of the windows dont apper
[14:23] <dsl_> paolo969it: yes yes , you need to add an app that will show you all the windows you are running
[14:23] <prince_jammys> marx2k: it gets a bit more involved then
[14:23] <paolo969it> they are not shown
[14:23] <geirha> paolo969it: you might have somehow removed the applet that displays the window list. Try right clicking the panel, add to panel, then add the window list applet
[14:23] <prince_jammys> marx2k: ask at #bash , you need to use extglob i think
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> marx2k, Correct, I did not give you that..  You need to move it to private chat or ot.. it is getting busy in here
[14:23] <dsl_> paolo969it: window list applet! thatnks geirha
[14:23] <marx2k> prince_jammys: ahh ok :) Because I even need it a little more involved than THAT :)
[14:23] <paolo969it> ok now i try wait please
[14:23] <paolo969it> (thanks for your gentle)
[14:24] <marx2k> prince_jammys: Oh man.... haha ok thanks :)
[14:24] <RoadHazard> hostname did you get that done?
[14:24] <magic> i wanna have 1600* but my disp. its only 1200*
[14:24] <amenado> is apparmor related to SELinux? so if its remove would the system still be stable?
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> paolo969it, Do you mean.. you dont see open, close or minimize buttons in your windows ?
[14:26] <kfbishop> Greetings all -- Any info on Hardy's latest NetworkManager (0.6.6) breaking wireless connections?  (atheros at least)
[14:26] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  in the monitor section???
[14:26] <geirha> !hardy | kfbishop
[14:26] <ubotu> kfbishop: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, see lines 52 and 53
[14:26] <yzed> query olala
[14:26] <paolo969it> ok boys maybe now it works...
[14:27] <paolo969it> oh my god
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, http://paste.stgraber.org/1316
[14:27] <paolo969it> now all ok thanks very much
[14:27] <archman> how do i make an application to run this commands in terminal, so i don't have to do it everytime all over again: sudo ifconfig <interface> down
[14:27] <archman> sudo dhclient -r <interface>
[14:27] <kfbishop> thx...  sorry for the spam
[14:27] <archman> sudo ifconfig <interface> up
[14:27] <archman> sudo iwconfig <interface> essid "ESSID_IN_QUOTES"
[14:27] <archman> sudo iwconfig <interface> key HEX_KEY <<<-------- If using ASCII Equivalent, this is s:ASCII_KEY (please make note of the prefix s:)
[14:27] <archman> uuuupss, sorry
[14:27] <FloodBot2> archman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <paolo969it> i became crazy since one week to understand what was the reason
[14:27] <paolo969it> thanks boys
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:27] <dsl_> paolo969it: all the best
[14:28] <paolo969it> i am new about ubuntu than i could not image
[14:28] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  then i edit now i done
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, log out and in and see if it helped
[14:28] <archman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58878/ how do i make an application to run this commands in terminal, so i don't have to do it everytime all over
[14:28] <paolo969it> ciao to all
[14:28] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  so do i have to save it first
[14:28] <cromag> !it | paolo969it
[14:28] <ubotu> paolo969it: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, yes please
[14:28] <cromag> was that better ? :)
[14:28] <paolo969it> buy to all
[14:29] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  be rite back thx
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ciao
[14:29] <geirha> paolo969it: bye! glad you got it fixed :)
[14:29] <binarydigit> archman: put it in a text file put #!/bin/bash at the top, save it, set chmod +x on the file
[14:29] <paolo969it> bye sure bye
[14:29] <danand_> Itaku - you there ???
[14:29] <archman> binarydigit: thanks!
[14:30] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  how about this one ------ Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, http://paste.stgraber.org/1316
[14:30] <thehumanerror> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.10 Server, and done apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[14:30] <myth-newb>  my question is - how do i get my lcd operating it works if i run sudo LCDd -f -r -4 i get "lcdproc server" displayed on it
[14:30] <thehumanerror> but how do I know if I need to reboot? It appears to have restarted relevant services
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, That was just an example for you..  if you made those changes, cross your fingers and go for it
[14:31] <jrib> thehumanerror: you need to reboot if you installed a new kernel
[14:31] <archman> binarydigit: so i put #!/bin/bash on the beginning of text file? you got any link with tutorial for that kind of stuff? tnx
[14:31] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow: thx buddy be rite back
[14:31] <binarydigit> archman: just google bash scripting
[14:32] <prince_jammys> archman: linuxcommand.org  for basic shell tutorial
[14:32] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  yes it works
[14:32] <archman> thank you, guys!
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, Great..
[14:32] <thehumanerror> right, so I'm just supposed to know that, and read the output of apt-get, and then cause a reboot?
[14:32] <aspire> hello
[14:32] <jrib> thehumanerror: yes
[14:32] <aspire> what can I do to resolve this error?
[14:32] <aspire> configure: error: --with-x=yes (default) and X11 headers/libs are not available
[14:32] <thehumanerror> nice of it to tell me
[14:32] <magic> i got ati radeon 9800 pro and multiscanG400 befor i install drivers whose 1600* now its 1200 what can i do?
[14:32] <le_renouveau> Hi again, is VMWare able to run from a NTFS drive?
[14:32] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  so now how do i activate my 3d desktop
[14:32] <jrib> thehumanerror: file a feature request if you want
[14:33] <thehumanerror> okay, and from reading the web about it, I get the impression that the *only* thing that needs a reboot is a kernel update
[14:33] <Itaku> whats a good program to host domains on ubuntu or any linux system?
[14:33] <thehumanerror> is that correct?
[14:33] <thehumanerror> okay, I might just do that
[14:33] <jrib> thehumanerror: afaik, yes
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, Now you are really pushing your luck  :)    have you enabled restricted drivers?
[14:33] <prince_jammys> thehumanerror: no, there are others that require reboot
[14:33] <RoadHazard> itaku web domains?
[14:33] <Itaku> like google.com
[14:33] <thehumanerror> oh right, like what? It's just configured for SSH at the moment
[14:33] <nonix4> magic: parse_error(input_not_english);
[14:33] <prince_jammys> thehumanerror: i've seen a locale change that required it
[14:34] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow: yes ive done it
[14:34] <thehumanerror> ah right
[14:34] <RoadHazard> apache2
[14:34] <magic> ???
[14:34] <dsl_> le_renouveau: what do you mean?
[14:34] <Itaku> whats a good program to host domains on ubuntu or any linux system????
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, system  pref  appearance  tab-visual effects
[14:35] <amenado> thehumanerror-> if your system freezes ..you need to reboot
[14:35] <jrib> Itaku: apache? lighttpd?
[14:35] <danand_> Itaku - did you solve your password problem?
[14:35] <Eulex> hello, I get an error suggesting that mount is trying to use the ntfs-3g driver to mount the ntfs partition I'm trying to mount (fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied) -- can I make it use the old plain read-only kernel ntfs driver? I haven't told it to use ntfs-3g, I've set ntfs as fs type.
[14:35] <prince_jammys> apache?
[14:35] <Itaku> yes...
[14:35] <thehumanerror> it would be much better if the apt-getter was told whether or not a reboot was necessary, à la... whatever it's called in GNOME that prompts for a restart
[14:35] <thehumanerror> I'll propose that
[14:35] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  3d effects could not be enabled
[14:35] <thehumanerror> amenado: I am aware of that, thanks :)
[14:35] <kris_ph> anybody here has basic knowledge on javascript? I want to show something on my php server powered by ubuntu?
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, double check restricted drivers
[14:36] <prince_jammys> wrong channel, sir
[14:36] <Itaku> whats a good program to host domains on ubuntu or any linux system???????
[14:36] <jrib> kris_ph: ask in ##javascript
[14:36] <macnus> Hi can any one help me? I want to synchronize mac os 10.4 and ubuntu 7.10. Is that possible. I would love if it could be automatic.
[14:36] <prince_jammys> !lamp | Itaku
[14:36] <ubotu> Itaku: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:36] <jrib> Itaku: we've answered your question
[14:36] <audiosensecd> Jack_Sparrow:  Got on check enabled
[14:37] <prince_jammys> Itaku: that's to install a web server
[14:37] <prince_jammys> Itaku: it's possible to host several domains
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd, I would suggest you /join #Compiz and have them take a look....
[14:37] <audiosensecd> k k
[14:38] <und3va> could i disturb somebody with some questions about ubuntu setup?
[14:38] <thehumanerror> go for it
[14:38] <Itaku> so can it host domain names like godaddy.com does?
[14:38] <prince_jammys> please disturb us
[14:38] <le_renouveau> dsl_ :  I have my virtual machine sitting on a NTFS disk with the ntfs 3g(?) and I can't start the virtual machine
[14:38] <prince_jammys> Itaku: yes
[14:39] <thehumanerror> in aptitude, how do you bring up the history of your changes to the package system?
[14:39] <und3va> i've just installed ubuntu server on my pc to use it as a router
[14:39] <ompaul> !expert | und3va
[14:39] <ubotu> und3va: one persons expectation of expert is different to that of another, why not ask the question with lots of useful information on one line and see what happens
[14:39] <xanax`> hello
[14:39] <Itaku> sudo apt-get install lamp?
[14:39] <und3va> and from my windows pc i can't seem to ping it
[14:39] <jrib> Itaku: no, you need to read the link ubotu gave you
[14:39] <prince_jammys> Itaku: no, it's more involved than that. it's not a quick apt-get install. check the link above
[14:40] <ompaul> und3va, when you type "ifconfig | grep inet" what is the first four digit number you get back?
[14:40] <joshritger> How do I get ubuntu 7.10 to remember my wifi password?
[14:41] <dsl_> le_renouveau: should work : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-mount-ntfs-vmware-virtual-disk-image-vmdk-readwrite.html
[14:41] <Prefix> joshritger, keyring manager
[14:41] <amenado> joshritger-> you put the correct entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:41] <qense> editing files can be too hard for beginners
[14:41] <und3va> i get my internet ip address
[14:41] <le_renouveau> dsl_: I'll try that thanks
[14:41] <prince_jammys> und3va: put your question all in one line, or it gets lost
[14:42] <gizemli> slm
[14:42] <cwillu> joshritger, you upgrade to 8.04 in april :p  (better support coming)
[14:42] <prince_jammys> !tr | gizemli
[14:42] <ubotu> gizemli: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[14:42] <und3va> ok i'll start from the beginning
[14:42] <prince_jammys> und3va: all on one message
[14:42] <thehumanerror> joshritger: did Ubuntu ask you to make a keyring?
[14:43] <joshritger> I opened the keyring manager and it asked me if i wanted to save it, but after rebooting it keeps asking me for my wifi passkey
[14:43] <ompaul> und3va, and it is public space or private space, is it 192 or or 169 or something else
[14:43] <Prefix> is the entry in your keyring manager?
[14:44] <joshritger> Yes, there is an entry for: passphrase for wireless network "name"
[14:45] <joshritger> If I show the key it is a bunch of numbers and letters
[14:45] <und3va> i've installed ubuntu server, then i'set up my ip address for my internet connection and then for my secondary lan card like this : 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0, then i connected my windows machine to the secondary lan card
[14:45] <Prefix> then it should work :<
[14:45] <joshritger> what should the application be that it is working with?
[14:45] <joshritger> under the application tab?
[14:46] <joshritger> mine says nm-applet
[14:46] <myth-newb> My lcd device will display lcdproc server and the time but how do i get it to do anything else?
[14:46] <patogen> "Dumb question" but I create a simple script in nano to be run daily in cron
[14:46] <patogen> can I put comments with #
[14:46] <patogen> in it?
[14:46] <cwillu> patogen, probably, but it depends on the language;  presumably bash or sh?
[14:46] <patogen> cwillu: bash
[14:47] <cwillu> patogen, ya, # will work for comments
[14:47] <prince_jammys> then yes
[14:47] <patogen> ok
[14:47] <patogen> thank you :)
[14:47] <patogen> cron was waaaay easier than I thought :)
[14:48] <neztiti> guys any one use mythtv ???
[14:48] <cwillu> neztiti, yep
[14:48] <XceII> Folks: After following this forum (and directions) I now have a very nice looking desktop: That being said, I think it's time we thank the folks @ canonical with a donation from the heart of us folks who reveived this system for free. Thank you for donating to the (best) system on the plenet.
[14:48] <neztiti> cwillu:  please help me
[14:48] <neztiti> cwillu: no upnp backends found
[14:49] <cwillu> neztiti, how did you install it?
[14:49] <neztiti> cwillu:  from synaptic
[14:50] <cwillu> neztiti, which package?
[14:50] <neztiti> 21
[14:50] <neztiti> cwillu: 21
[14:50] <cwillu> 42?
[14:50] <cwillu> not which version, which package
[14:51] <neztiti> cwillu:  sudo apt-get install libmyth-0.21-0 libmyth-dev libmyth-perl libmyth-python mythtv-backend-master mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-database mythtv-doc mythtv-frontend  mythtv-transcode-utils mythtv ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
[14:51] <cwillu> neztiti, uninstall all that (just change install to remove;  the files' will still be cached for later)
[14:52] <cwillu> neztiti, now while that's running, is it a dedicated box, or is still going to be a desktop in some way?
[14:52] <neztiti> cwillu:  how ?????
[14:52] <cwillu> neztiti, rerun the line, but change 'install' to 'remove'
[14:52] <neztiti> cwillu: ok
[14:52] <cwillu> neztiti, we're going to do this the easy way, but first we're going to clean up the mess :p
[14:53] <neztiti> cwillu: thank u m8 4 ur help
[14:53] <neztiti> cw done
[14:54] <cwillu> neztiti, okay, now, is this computer going to be only for a tv?
[14:54] <neztiti> cwillu: lets go 2 privite room pls
[14:54] <blind> Nautilus seems to have some problems copying files to my PSP.. is this normal?
[14:54] <neztiti> cwillu: yes
[14:54] <monzie> hi all
[14:54] <cwillu> neztiti, /msg me
[14:54] <monzie> my laptop over heats on Ubuntu 7.10
[14:54] <legend2440> i enabled network monitor plugin in xchat. What is it supposed to be doing?
[14:54] <monzie> can someone help please?
[14:55] <blind> monzie, is it only Ubuntu that overheats it? Have you tried cleaning out your fans?
[14:55] <le_renouveau> I just created a new ext3 partition with GParted but I can't do anything to it. (New Folder, Copy Files, etc.)
[14:55] <monzie> blind: yes only ubuntu. It stays cooler on Opensolaris. Completely cool on windows ( i triple-boot)
[14:56] <cwillu> monzie, define overheat
[14:56] <monzie> cwillu: it gets and stays at the 48-50C mark.. Fans only start after 55C or so
[14:56] <rrplay> la_renovuveau: check to see /etc/fstab
[14:56] <marx2k> What's the grep to show lines with ".nfo" but not lines with ".nfo" with "Re:" in them?
[14:57] <marx2k> (.nfo should be at the end, Re: should be at the beginning of the line)
[14:57] <gvsa123> how come my login screen is smaller now?
[14:57] <joshritger> I need some help with ntfs-config. Everytime I restart a drive with a different name takes the mount spot of the drive that I want to mount.
[14:57] <jrib> marx2k: -v tells grep to discard things so you would do: grep .nfo | grep -v Re:
[14:57] <marx2k> err, whats the regex, not the grep :)
[14:57] <cwillu> monzie, fans start running earlier on win/bsd, or not at all?
[14:57] <monzie> cwillu: they work just fine on windows
[14:57] <jrib> marx2k: does not exist
[14:58] <RoAkSoAx> !motu
[14:58] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[14:58] <marx2k> jrib: that must exist. that's what regex is all about :) I just dont know regex well :)
[14:58] <cwillu> monzie, but do they run, or does it stay at that temperature without the fans running?
[14:58] <jrib> marx2k: you would do it the way I said with grep
[14:58] <woden> what is the default theme for gnome?
[14:58] <rnue035> http://tinyurl.com/ypgq7c
[14:58] <kane77> how can I use tor with irc in ubuntu?
[14:58] <le_renouveau> renouv
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> kane77: Pidgin?
[14:59] <le_renouveau> mt
[14:59] <marx2k> jrib: nah, KLibido has a filter function to list only articles to my specifications, and it uses regex as the filter
[14:59] <monzie> cwillu: fans do not run normally. Only when the laptop gets really hot. They stop when the temp gets down to 50C, which is uncomfortable
[14:59] <brobostigon> kane77: if you try to connect to freenode with tor, it will refuse connection
[14:59] <kane77> brobostigon, oh.. didn't know that...
[15:00] <brobostigon> kane77: freenode will not let you connect to freenode through tor
[15:00] <cwillu> monzie, so generally on the windows side (just for example), it doesn't need to keep the constantly fans running to stay at a reasonable temperature?
[15:00] <prince_jammys> marx2k: ending in .nfo ?
[15:00] <drewby> Hallo, I'm try to write script that will ssh into a server and do a subversion update so that I can easily preview my code online.  How would I pass a password to ssh if I were writing a script?
[15:00] <Eulex> monzie, what brand is this laptop?
[15:00] <marx2k> prince_jammys yep
[15:00] <kane77> brobostigon, nevermind.. I'm sometimes paranoid for no reason... :)
[15:01] <marx2k> so some lines are like "blah blah blah.nfo" while others are "Re: blah blah blah.nfo"
[15:01] <monzie> Eulex: Acer Aspire 2920
[15:01] <marx2k> I only want to see the first kind of lines, not the latter
[15:01] <woden> When I start Ubuntu I get a black screen, but if start in "recovery" mode and then choose to do a "normal" boot, I can get to the GDM login screen.
[15:01] <brobostigon> kane77: it works for most other things, but that was one thing i found that it never works,
[15:01] <joshritger> I just installed gutsy after building a new pc, I had previously used fiesty. I am having some issues with ntfs-config, how do I reset fstab to its defaults?
[15:01] <monzie> Eulex, cwillu:
[15:01] <monzie> manish@freedom:/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZS0$ cat temperature
[15:01] <monzie> temperature:             43 C
[15:01] <le_renouveau> rrplay: Hi, what should I see in fstab?
[15:01] <monzie> this is hot, and fans are not on right now
[15:01] <amikrop> Battle for Wesnoth problem solved. The wesnoth-music package is required, although it is not a package requirement. Proposed fix: make wesnoth-music a package requirement for the wesnoth package (like wesnoth-data).
[15:02] <rrplay> renouv: check to see the neew partition is there and mountable
[15:02] <cwillu> monzie, is there anything running (run top from a terminal) that's pegging the cpu?
[15:02] <drewby> I have wesnoth working and I do not have the music package.
[15:02] <monzie> cwillu: nope
[15:02] <le_renouveau> rrplay: I'm completely new to linux, I have no clue how to do that
[15:03] <polter> anyone else having issues booting up using the RT-kernel?
[15:03] <rrplay> renouv:look at newbiw guides in forums before you play arounf with etc/fstab
[15:03] <kfbishop> drewby: Look at ssh-keygen locally, and put results into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote system
[15:04] <le_renouveau> rrplay: thanks, will do
[15:04] <XceII> !partition
[15:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:04] <ks3> marx2k: ^[^R][^e][^:].*\.nfo will kinda work
[15:04] <rrplay> renouv: take your time and good luck
[15:04] <elphias> can anyone help me configure irssi? i have no clue how to adjust the config file to connect to the servers i want them too
[15:05] <drewby> thanks kfbishop
[15:05]  * N3bunel saluta
[15:05] <bloody`> !irssi
[15:05] <ubotu> Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[15:05] <polter> also #irssi may provide better help
[15:05] <bloody`> brb
[15:05] <XceII> Irssi is tex based
[15:06] <myth-newb> can someone help me my lcd just displays the time nothing coming from myth or anywhere else
[15:07] <elphias> thank you for your help
[15:07] <elphias> ^_^
[15:07] <IdleOne> elphias, irrsi.org has agreat FAQ
[15:07] <woden> Where is the theme chooser in Ubunut?
[15:07] <elphias> thanks becasue i have one heck of a time with these howtoos XD so much work to connect to only a few channels and servers
[15:08] <Sinnerman> woden, system, preferences, appearance.
[15:08] <elphias> i found the irssi config script that you get when you instal it via apt-get
[15:08] <elphias> but other than that i have no idea how to adjust it to auto log and provide passwords
[15:08] <blind> you can customize the script from within irssi
[15:08] <Sinnerman> woden alternately, you can right click on the desktop, choose change background, and instead, choose the 'themes' tab.
[15:08] <archman> how can i view my wireless connection status in terminal? (duration, sent/receiver etc)
[15:08] <blind> elphias: autolog is easy. check /help
[15:09] <blind> elphias: passwords, if it's not available, there'll be a script for it. There's a bunch of scripts at irssi.org
[15:09] <woden> Sinnerman: Where can I choose the icon set?
[15:09] <mEck0> hi! I wonder if Quake Wars - Enemy Territory and Unreal Tournament III works in linux now?
[15:09] <Prefix> not yet
[15:10] <mEck0> Prefix, none of them?
[15:10] <elphias> right but lets say i want irssi to join x channel on quakenet and x channels on freenode and do passwords and correct nick assignment
[15:10] <XceII>  irrsi.org
[15:10] <Sinnerman> woden once you're on the theme tab, choose customize. there's another tab in the dialog that comes up for icons.
[15:11] <rrplay> le_renouveau: for example fstab guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[15:11] <mi_> mi
[15:12] <XceII> u
[15:12] <bazhang> archman: you got wireless going?
[15:13] <Glock7> anyone know where i can download linux-header-generic
[15:13] <archman> bazhang: yes, now.
[15:14] <brobostigon> Glock7: synaptic
[15:14] <bazhang> archman: nice! how did you do it?
[15:14] <archman> bazhang: running from terminal
[15:14] <shishirmk> guys can you name a good clean and clear php ide in ubuntu
[15:14] <bazhang> archman well done ;]
[15:14] <woden> Where can I set the horizontal and vertical sync for my monitor?
[15:15] <shishirmk> !php
[15:15] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:15] <archman> bazhang; dhclient; up; iwconfig essid; key (s:ASCII); managed mode; sudo dhclient   --up and running
[15:15] <Glock7> brobostingon., i don't have internet connection with my linux computer
[15:15] <Kleggen> shishirmk: geany works fine...
[15:15] <longtimeuser> i see the problem is Pici or any1 who can speak to me just speak
[15:15] <shishirmk> geany is only a text editor how do i do the testing?
[15:15] <brobostigon> !aptoncd | Glock7
[15:15] <ubotu> Glock7: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[15:16] <woden> Where can I set the horizontal and vertical sync for my monitor?
[15:16] <archman> bazhang: hot to disconnect? is there another way instead of ifconfig ethX down?
[15:16] <Kleggen> shishirmk: You will need a installation of php or a server with php.
[15:16] <woden> Where can I set the horizontal and vertical sync for my monitor?  I don't see anything in my xorg.conf file.
[15:16] <XceII> Have a super day folks.
[15:17] <archman> bazhang: also, how to see status of connection?
[15:17] <shishirmk> Kleggen: i have a server with php but dont want the pain of going there and pasting it there running it from there and stuff
[15:17] <bazhang> archman hang on a sec
[15:17] <archman> ok
[15:17] <evilofisho> Hi, I recently installed the Nvidia driver and it -COMPLETELY- messed up my display, when I set the monitor and the graphics card to the ones I use the screen just turns black and remains like that. D:
[15:17] <rrplay> woden: do you know the sync rates for you moniitor?
[15:17] <longtimeuser> bazhang,
[15:17] <longtimeuser> kernel = linux is a problem . you say windows is a  problem i can say windows can understand post processing duration between clicks and rejects over reaction to the system while ubuntu doesnt and just lags with a conflict in some occasions of what im talking about .
[15:17] <woden> rrplay: Yes I know what they are exactly.
[15:17] <Kleggen> shishirmk: There is no program allowing you to test php applications without a server.
[15:18] <shishirmk> Kleggen: what about bluefish?
[15:18] <rrplay> woden: what vid adapter do you have
[15:18] <aspire> hello
[15:18] <jaeming_> best way to install nvidia is download the binary from their website and run it, without X being on I might add
[15:18] <woden> rrplay:  But I don't see any existing sync lines in the Section "Monitor" part of my xorg.conf and I am unsure of the proper formatting.
[15:18] <woden> rrplay:  GeForce 8800GTX.
[15:18] <aspire> can any one tell me which packages I need to get to run a python script?
[15:18] <Kleggen> shishirmk: Guess it work.
[15:18] <rrplay> woden what vid adapter do you have
[15:18] <shishirmk> ok fine i will give it a try
[15:18] <woden> rrplay:  GeForce 8800GTX.
[15:18] <erUSUL> aspire: python is already installed
[15:19] <evilofisho> jaeming_, How do you "Close down" X? I've tried it before, it just starts up again.
[15:19] <brobostigon> aspire: all you need is the main python package
[15:19] <rrplay> woden: do you geet an nvidia logo at boot ?
[15:19] <jaeming_> yeah, try alt ctrl f3 or f2
[15:19] <jaeming_> then have to close it
[15:19] <aspire> brobostigon: I belive that this is what I need
[15:19] <aspire> wxPython
[15:19] <rrplay> woden: nvidia-settings in the terminal
[15:19] <woden> rrplay:  I installed the proprietary nvidia driver.
[15:19] <bloody`> hey guys, my ubuntu on my laptop freezes on me, for no obvious reason, running different apps. it requires me to hold my power button and hardreboot. it is not the ram, ive run memtest for 24 hours
[15:20] <bullgard4> What is the funktion of the process kondemand/0?
[15:20] <maz_> hello ... can anyobe help me with keyring please :)
[15:20] <evilofisho> jaeming_, did that.. it just forces me to the login screen.
[15:20] <jaeming_> then login
[15:20] <brobostigon> aspire: look in synaptic
[15:20] <bloody`> maz_, what do you need?
[15:20] <izinucs> evilofisho: ctrl+alt+f2 then log in and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     that stops the x server
[15:20] <Kleggen> evilofisho: You could stop the X server process...
[15:20] <rrplay> woden: nvidia-settings in the terminal
[15:20] <aspire> yes the problem is that it returns a whole lot of results?
[15:20] <jaeming_> telinit 3
[15:20] <woden> rrplay:  That program is not installed.
[15:21] <aspire> is there any package that I can get that would resolve my problem in particular?
[15:21] <maz_> he bloody, how can I get Keyring to automaticly connect my wireless without asking for the password :)
[15:21] <rrplay> woden do you geet the nvidia logo at boot ??
[15:21] <evilofisho> Izinucs, Kleggen, Jaeming_, Okay.. Thanks.
[15:21] <jaeming_> oh my!, I'm out of alchohol and it's already 4:21 am, where to get more? :(
[15:22] <aspire> brobostigon: I need two things, one is phyton and the other is WXphyton
[15:22] <ompaul> !offtopic | jaeming_
[15:22] <ubotu> jaeming_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:22] <bazhang> archman you want this in gui or cli? as far as checking the dl/ul speed of your connection; I know conky for the gui (superkaramba for kde)--let me check further for cli
[15:22] <woden> rrplay:  No I don't but that could be another problem I am having.  I can't boot Ubuntu normally.  It just goes to a black screen forever.  I have to choose "recovery" mode and then choose "normal boot" in order to get to the GDM login screen.
[15:22] <archman> cli
[15:22] <bloody`> maz_, the application you want to use is 'nm-applet'
[15:22] <bloody`> maz_, set the keyring up for that
[15:22] <archman> bazhang: i'm using gnome
[15:22] <jaeming_> warned. okay. I did try to help with the nvidia at least
[15:22] <fraser> hi guys, for some reason network-admin does not seem to be able to recognise my wireless card. i am on a toshiba with an atheros wireless card with an AMD64
[15:23] <rrplay> woden : that's because you do not have them installed properly
[15:23] <bazhang> archman thus my suggestion of conky for gui
[15:23] <archman> bazhang: but i would like to see status in terminal; also, how to disconnect?
[15:23] <archman> just ifconfig ethX down?
[15:23] <woden> rrplay:  Have what installed proplery?  My nvidia driver?  I was having the same problem even before I installed the proprietary driver.
[15:24] <Kleggen> fraser: It may be lack of driver. Also Asus Eee comes with atheros wireless card, and there is made a eeeXubuntu to ship the correct driver.
[15:24] <Glock7> could i install linux-headers-generic from a ubuntu cd
[15:24] <phoenix5002> can someone please help me get suspend working on my laptop?  I am desperate I've been trying to get it working since the day I installed Ubuntu.
[15:24] <rrplay> woden: here you go see posst here from cappy http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-481650.html get the lates from nvidia 1st and follow
[15:25] <rrplay> woden: make a text file of dcappy post so you can read it in a terminal and go from there
[15:25] <wallax> g
[15:25] <fraser> Kleggen, thanks for the hint but i know a guy who has the exact same driver and runs ubuntu and wireless worked out of the box, no installation it worked from the live cCD
[15:25] <woden> rrplay:  But I'm not using the drivers from nvidia.com.  I am using the ubuntu nvidia drivers...
[15:26] <rrplay> woden: this will give a full nvidia accel for your card
[15:26] <crampan> hi
[15:27] <woden> rrplay:  It's working right now though.  I have wobbly windows and everything.  3D desktop effects..
[15:27] <crampan> i need some help installing real player on gutsy
[15:27] <rrplay> woden: if you use ubuntu  get the nvidia-glx package see if you got it installed
[15:27] <crampan> i downloaded realplayer10 gold but when i try to install it i get an error
[15:27] <bazhang> archman dstat sudo apt-get install dstat
[15:27] <woden> rrplay:  Yes, nvidia-glx-new is installed
[15:28] <crampan> ./realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586(2).bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:28] <izinucs> woden: if its working .. it's working.. if your happy with no problems don't fix what's not broken...
[15:28] <Kleggen> fraser: Have a lock at http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu
[15:28] <crampan> can anyoe help please
[15:28] <crampan> ?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !realplayer
[15:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:28] <Kleggen> lock/look
[15:28] <rrplay> woden: that post i gave you save it in case
[15:28] <woden> izinucs:  But there is another problem.  When I boot Ubuntu in normal mode, my screen stays black forever.  I have to boot in "recovery" mode and then choose "normal boot" to get to the desktop.
[15:29] <rrplay> woden: wanna OC that card   nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=1
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, HAve you posted your xorg in the pastebin?
[15:30] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  Nope but I can.  It's just the default xorg.
[15:30] <woden> where is the pastebin?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, I gotta go, but people will want to see it..
[15:30] <prince_jammys> woden: is the problem that ubuntu takes forever to boot (with black screen)?
[15:30] <archman> bazhang: GREAT maaan !!!
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[15:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:31] <woden> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58883/
[15:31] <archman> bazhang: how to disconnect?
[15:31] <prince_jammys> woden: do you see the splash screen when you start up?
[15:31] <bradley> can any one help me get compiz fusion set up?
[15:31] <bazhang> archman been a while for me but I though it was sudo interfacename(wlan0,etc)ifdown; others feel free to correct me
[15:32] <woden> prince_jammys:  Well technically I haven't waited forever.  But I did wait a full 5 minutes and nothing happened.  It just sits there with a black screen with no hard drive activity.
[15:32] <woden> prince_jammys: Nope, no splash screen at all.
[15:32] <prince_jammys> woden: is this a laptop?
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, What version of ubuntu are you using
[15:32] <bazhang> bradley: you got the card to support it and the correct 3D drivers?
[15:32] <bradley> bazhang: yes
[15:32] <woden> prince_jammys: No it's a desktop.  GeForce 8800 GTX video card.
[15:32] <bradley> bazhang: the effects work, i just need help making it look like those videos
[15:32] <archman> bazhang: yeah, but it's, like, turning the card off...
[15:33] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  8.04 Alpha 6.  But I had the same problem with 7.10.
[15:33] <bazhang> bradley and you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[15:33] <bradley> bazhang: yes
[15:33] <bazhang> archman oh you just want to break that particular connection?
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, You still need to be in +1 if you are using hardy
[15:33] <archman> bazhang: yes
[15:33] <woden> Ok.  But it's a common problem with 7.10 also...
[15:34] <prince_jammys> woden: this *may* be relevant (maybe not) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, If you are running Hardy...  you questions need to be asked in hardy
[15:35] <bradley> bazhang: yes, but i cannot get it to do anything
[15:35] <archman> bazhang: how to do that?
[15:35] <bazhang> bradley you can type alt f2 compiz --replace to get it going; if you want the 3D cube or whatnot you can check the plugins and their keybindings to get that going
[15:35] <katcita> hi
[15:35] <katcita> everytime I restart my computer or my network, my extra dns are removed, anyway I can get them to survive a restart?
[15:36] <izinucs> bradley: you have to install compiz config settings manager from synaptic.
[15:36] <bazhang> archman you want to auto switch wireless connections midstream via the cli? something like that? not sure that I have ever done that not sure let me check
[15:36] <archman> bazhang: i just want to end connection, to disconnect from particular wireless network.
[15:37] <donato> hello
[15:37]  * delcoyote hi
[15:37] <archman> via terminal
[15:37] <Netch7> hi
[15:37] <donato> ciao
[15:37] <katcita> any idea about my dns?
[15:37] <xxx> has flash been fixed?'
[15:37] <cwillu> xxx, afaik
[15:37] <bazhang> archman hang on a sec
[15:37] <pie-face> in repo's?
[15:37] <cwillu> pie-face, ^^^
[15:38] <cwillu> try it
[15:38] <archman> ok bazhang
[15:38] <pie-face> k
[15:39] <soto> Anyone familiar with httrack? How do I only mirror subdirectories? -D doesn't seem to do it...
[15:39] <phoenix5002> I'm having a problem with some games not working with Ubuntu Hot-Keys.  and the games ARE native linux NOT using wine.  Even if I run it in a window it still won't let me do Alt+F4, Alt+TAB, Ctrl+Alt+Del, nothing....
[15:39] <amenado> archman just iwconfig wlan0 essid ""
[15:39] <archman> amenado: ???
[15:40] <archman> i want to disconnect from essid
[15:40] <amenado> archman response to your question
[15:40] <myth-newb> Is anyone familiar with LCDproc? I am having troubles displaying anything other than "LCDproc server"
[15:40] <amenado> archman that effectively connects you to "" which dont exist
[15:40] <archman> so i just iwconfig eth1 essid "<>" ?
[15:40] <archman> ahaaaa
[15:40] <instabin> Warsow need updated its an older version
[15:40] <amenado> archman-> try that
[15:40] <archman> fake disconnection
[15:40] <archman> hehe
[15:41] <archman> thanks
[15:41] <bazhang> archman I just usually put my laptop to sleep that does it for me ;]
[15:41] <woden> What is the syntax to add vertical and horizontal sync lines to the "Monitor" section of my xorg.conf?
[15:41] <archman> but is there a real command for disconnect?
[15:41] <archman> haha
[15:41] <archman> lol guys
[15:41] <archman> hehe
[15:41] <amenado> archman ifdown eth1
[15:41] <izinucs> instabin: you can download a unified version directly from their website. unpack and run the executable without installing anything.
[15:41] <archman> all good, thanks for the support !
[15:41] <bazhang> archman bring down the nic
[15:41] <ompaul> !enter | archman  (  ;-)  )
[15:41] <ubotu> archman  (  ;-)  ): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:41] <brobostigon> archman: just, sudo ifdown wlan* stop
[15:42] <derreck> I have to sync a file on 2 servers. In this file, one line must not be synchronized. How can I do ?
[15:42] <archman> amenado: yeah i know that one, not looking for it
[15:42] <instabin> izinucs ty
[15:42] <archman> brobostigon: ok, tnx
[15:42] <rrplay> woden: same que as before nvidia-settings  in terminal
[15:42] <crampan> hello trying to install something but its complaining about not finding libstdc++.so.5
[15:43] <crampan> does anyone know how i can get it on my system #/
[15:43] <Ward1983> i want to multiboot between vista on a fakeraid raid0 partition and ubuntu 7.10 on another disk, but after install i got a grub error 17, offcourse it cant mount my fakeraid array... any solutions?
[15:43] <ompaul> crampan, what are you trying to install, and how?
[15:43] <madsporkmurderer> I am having a few minor problems with my keyboard layout- it's set to uk and seems to be correct (quote and @ are the uk way round etc) except 2 minor things: the windoes key doesnt work and SHIFT+3 gives a 3 not a pound sign
[15:44] <izinucs> Ward1983: you need to reinstall grub.. it was put on the wrong drive.  I'm on a win box now so I can't referance my notes..
[15:44] <woden> rrplay:  I don't see any place to edit the sync
[15:44] <bloody`> hey guys, my ubuntu on my laptop freezes on me, for no obvious reason, running different apps. it requires me to hold my power button and hardreboot. it is not the ram, ive run memtest for 24 hours
[15:44] <Ward1983> izinucs, but i setup the correct drive
[15:45] <rrplay> woden" and you typed nvidia-settings in the terminal ?
[15:45] <joshritger> how do i change the background color of my splash screen, I know how to change the splash screen, but the background behind it is still tan and i want it blue
[15:45] <Sinnerman> bloody` acpi issues? i don't know, i've not had that problem recently, but that might be worth looking into.
[15:45] <ompaul> madsporkmurderer, check in menu: system preferences keyboard - as for the win key - no matter you can search for dead keys later
[15:45] <ompaul> 3
[15:45] <woden> rrplay:  Yep.  I don't see any place to edit the horiz vert syncs
[15:45] <izinucs> Ward1983: when you have multiple drives it sometimes happens that grub gets put in the wrong place..
[15:45] <bloody`> !acpi | bloody`
[15:45] <izinucs> Ward1983: grub install is automatic.. you didn't do it..
[15:45] <Ward1983> izinucs, correct
[15:45] <bloody`> erm
[15:46] <Prefix> !acpi
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <rrplay> woden: you got and gui for nvidia-settings it there
[15:46] <izinucs> !grub | Ward1983
[15:46] <ubotu> Ward1983: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:46] <Ward1983> izinucs, i qssumed it would be installed on the correct partition, the one i selected, apperantly the installer sucks :s
[15:46] <ompaul> madsporkmurderer, btw win + 3  and win +1 are interesting
[15:46] <Ward1983> izinucs, thats the other way around
[15:47] <Ward1983> izinucs, i installed ubuntu after windows
[15:47] <bloody`> sinnerman, i dont use it . i keep it plugged in and running
[15:47] <rrplay> woden:Xserver display configuration
[15:47] <madsporkmurderer> ompaul: I cant find any useful settings to change in there- its already set to uk
[15:48] <ompaul> madsporkmurderer, test with another keyboard
[15:48] <izinucs> Ward1983: no.. you installed the system correctly. Grub needs to be in the mbr.. with multiple drives... if they are tagged as bootable the system chooses (I think) based on actual interface number ie ide channel 0 or 1, sata 0,1,2,3  and not by how the bios is configured
[15:48] <woden> rrplay:  I'm there.  Says nothing about vert/horiz syncs
[15:48] <Sinnerman> bloody` like i said, i ain't too sure, but google kernel options, and acpi/noacpi or whatnot. i sort of came across that googling a somewhat slightly different issue. might be worth investigating.
[15:48] <joshritger> how do I change the background color behind the splash screen?
[15:49] <rrplay> woden:: here you go   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:49] <|Zippo|> i can't delete a directory...
[15:49] <|Zippo|> ?---------  ? ?        ?             ?                ? Templates
[15:49] <madsporkmurderer> ompaul: nope- exactly the same
[15:49] <|Zippo|> what should I do?
[15:49] <woden> rrplay:  I just did it manually.
[15:49] <differentreality> hi... if i have installed ubuntu on a language, let's say greek.... that means that applications menu for example is in greek... can i change th language without formating ?
[15:49] <rrplay> woden pick you res
[15:49] <prince_jammys> madsporkmurderer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550680
[15:49] <izinucs> Zippo is it in your home directory? or below it in files?
[15:49] <|Zippo|> my home
[15:50] <ompaul> madsporkmurderer, well those in #ubuntu-uk  may know more
[15:50] <Ward1983> izinucs, oops, my mbr is on the raid0 array :s
[15:50] <legend2440> joshritger,  using gnome right?
[15:50] <joshritger> yes
[15:50] <joshritger> I know how to change the splash screen, but not the background color
[15:51] <izinucs> |Zippo|: then rmdir -rf /home/<username>/<directory>
[15:51] <chuck> can someone please fix the bcm43xx-fwcutter package...
[15:51] <Odd-rationale> joshritger: Is that the background color after gdm and before the desktop?
[15:51] <rrplay> woden did what manually  ???         run nvidia-settings
[15:51] <chuck> it's trying to download a nonexistant file during configuration, so it's hard to install
[15:51] <joshritger> yes, it is still tan
[15:51] <|Zippo|> vinicius@mediacenter:~$ rmdir Templates
[15:51] <|Zippo|> rmdir: Templates: Device or resource busy
[15:52] <joshritger> everything else is themed
[15:52] <woden> rrplay:  I just edited my xorg.conf and added the horizsync and vertrefresh lines to the "Monitor" Section
[15:52] <legend2440> joshritger,  ok on top panel system>administration>login window>local
[15:52] <Odd-rationale> joshritger: Try this: do "sudo gedit /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default"
[15:52] <amenado> |Zippo|-> how did get that anyways?  did your mount command failed? or wrong options?
[15:52] <|Zippo|> no
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, use gksudo gedit please
[15:52] <Odd-rationale> joshritger: Near the end of that file you will find a hex code color. change that to whatever you want.
[15:52] <rrplay> woden can you run nviidia-xconfig -A    and then read the options
[15:52] <|Zippo|> I really don't know how it became unreadble
[15:53] <Prefix> whats the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[15:53] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: OK. Is that to be standard now?
[15:53] <|Zippo|> ?---------  ? ?        ?             ?                ? Templates
[15:53] <bloody`> prefix, gksudo is graphical
[15:53] <joshritger> legend2440 I have tried that so i will have to try odd-rationale's tip
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, gksudo has always been the std for gui aps
[15:53] <|Zippo|> it has no permission, no user, no group, no size...
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[15:53] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[15:53] <amenado> |Zippo|-> you noticed that 1st time or all the time now after several reboots?
[15:53] <madsporkmurderer> Prince_jammy's link fixed the £ issue, thanks
[15:53] <woden> rrplay:  what does nvidia-xconfig -A do?
[15:53] <madsporkmurderer> any ideas on the win key?
[15:53] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: What about gksu ?
[15:53] <|Zippo|> amenado: 1st time
[15:54] <|Zippo|> i'll reboot computer to check
[15:54] <rrplay> woden: just type it and read please
[15:54] <amenado> |Zippo|-> try to reboot once more..
[15:54] <|Zippo|> i'll do that
[15:54] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: When I first started out, everyone told me to use sudo, so I kind of got used to it lol
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, I never have needed to use gksu
[15:55] <woden> rrplay:  That's a lot of reading...like pages and pages and pages...
[15:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Is gksu graphical su and gksudo graphical sudo ? what is the real diff ?
[15:55] <rrplay> woden: those are the option from nvidia   and your card if needed
[15:55] <joshritger> Odd-rationale: Thanks, I think that will work.
[15:55] <Odd-rationale> joshritger: np
[15:56] <izinucs> Jack_Sparrow: what's the difference between gksu and gksudo.. or  is there a difference?
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale, Im a bit busy, someone will be able to wxplain the diff
[15:56] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[15:56] <rrplay> woden: they will be necceassry from time to time if you want to optimize that 8800 carg
[15:56] <woden> rrplay:  Ok thanks.
[15:57] <rrplay> woden: esp with compizz magor hint in there
[15:57] <Glock7> anyone know how to add the ubuntu disc to synaptic?
[15:57] <nickrud> Odd-rationale: try:  ls -l /usr/bin/gksudo
[15:58] <moimiolos> #ubuntu-pt
[15:58] <bazhang> Glock7: did you initially install with a cd?
[15:58] <Odd-rationale> nickrud: So same ?
[15:58] <Odd-rationale> nickrud: gksudo links to gksu ?
[15:58] <Glock7> no..
[15:58] <nickrud> Odd-rationale: yes. they were slightly different (the details I'm not too sure of) but not any more
[15:58] <Glock7> im using a xandros distro of linux and i need linux-headers-generic
[15:59] <bazhang> Glock7: then why would you want it as an install resource
[15:59] <Glock7> i was trying to pull it from a ubuntu disc
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> nickrud: OK. I got it.
[15:59] <Glock7> i have no internet connection on the xandros machine
[15:59] <nickrud> Odd-rationale: and now, gksu-properties
[15:59] <|Zippo|> amenado: it's ok now
[15:59] <|Zippo|> amenado: thanks
[15:59] <bazhang> Glock7: #xandros? then you should head to their channel
[15:59] <Notamisfit> just find the package in /pool and use dpkg -i
[15:59] <fmoo> Hey, is there a gtk tool to edit my path ?
[15:59] <amenado> |Zippo|-> okay you're welcome
[16:00] <Glock7> baxhang - someone suggested here because of the package i was trying to download
[16:00] <nickrud> fmoo: yes, gedit ;)
[16:00] <Abdulz> where can i get free dictionary database file for my bot to use?
[16:00] <bazhang> Glock7: this is for support of #ubuntu
[16:00] <Glock7> i understand - linux-headers-generic is a ubuntu package
[16:01] <Notamisfit> Glock7: The package should be in /pool/l or something like that. Just use dpkg -i to install it
[16:01] <fmoo> nickrud: so you're saying edit .bashrc?  will binaries the added path be available to "Run Application"?
[16:01] <bazhang> Glock7: just go to packages.ubuntu.com and download it there
[16:01] <nickrud> Glock7: you can find the various -generic packages on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:01] <Glock7> thanks guys
[16:02] <prince_jammys> fmoo: yes
[16:02] <nickrud> fmoo: no. You can set that path in ~/.gnomerc for individual users (create it) or add them to the one in /etc/evironment for all
[16:02] <prince_jammys> oh
[16:02] <DASPRiD> which is the best way to crypt a root device >>after<< an installation (using dm-crypt)? i wouldn't like to reinstall the system
[16:03] <fmoo> nickrud: thanks a bunch
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> DASPRiD: Did you create a separate /boot partition ?
[16:03] <DASPRiD> Odd-rationale, sure
[16:04] <Odd-rationale> DASPRiD: Actually, there is no way to do it without destroying all the data on the partition.
[16:04] <DASPRiD> Odd-rationale, some trick with backuping the root partition, crypting the partition and then copying the root back?
[16:04] <DASPRiD> with a live-cd or so?
[16:05] <killown> high-freq, how I do to install oss4?
[16:05] <Odd-rationale> DASPRiD: I'd rather reinstall than do that. But might be possible.
[16:05] <killown> ops hi*
[16:05] <nickrud> DASPRiD: it'd probably be faster to clone your os then reinstall
[16:05] <nickrud> !clone | DASPRiD
[16:05] <ubotu> DASPRiD: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:05] <killown> !oss4
[16:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <lotia> any shell gurus on?
[16:06] <DASPRiD> nickrud, this still requires me to do all configs again
[16:06] <bazhang> lotia #bash shell?
[16:06] <lotia> if so, how do i change this command find ./tool \( -name uploads -o -name config \) -prune -o -print0 | xargs  -0 -n1 -i cp -r {} stuff/ so that it preserves directory hierarchy
[16:06] <DASPRiD> there's no way to clone the root paritiion and copy it back?
[16:06] <nickrud> DASPRiD: personal? or system?
[16:06] <v3ctor> lotia: all gurus are on holiday...try just asking a question
[16:06] <DASPRiD> nickrud, system, it's a server
[16:06] <bazhang> haha
[16:06] <lotia> v3ctor: nice :)
[16:07] <nickrud> DASPRiD: there is, but I'm not clueful on it myself
[16:07] <prince_jammys> lotia: #bash
[16:07] <lotia> prince_jammys: k
[16:07] <woden> How do I move the trash bin off the panel and onto the desktop where it's supposed to be?
[16:07] <prince_jammys> lotia: if noone is around, type !find
[16:07] <DASPRiD> nickrud, well i will have to ask google then :)
[16:08] <nickrud> !google | (courtesy of bazhang :)
[16:08] <ubotu> (courtesy of bazhang :): google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[16:08] <joeytwiddle> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=|+(courtesy+of+bazhang+:)
[16:08] <bazhang> nickrud haha
[16:08] <axz> Guys how to burn a img file to the dvd?
[16:08] <izinucs> axz: use k3b
[16:08] <axz> i 'm on Gnome
[16:08] <bruenig> axz: use cdrecord
[16:08] <bruenig> or wodim
[16:08] <prince_jammys> how come joey always repeats the google link?
[16:08] <Notamisfit> growisofs
[16:09] <bruenig> growisofs is a front end for those
[16:09] <nickrud> prince_jammys: he's don that before?
[16:09] <Notamisfit> ahh
[16:09] <izinucs> axz: doesn't matter still works
[16:09] <prince_jammys> !google
[16:09] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[16:09] <joeytwiddle> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=
[16:09] <woden> I need help adding vertical and horizontal refresh for my xorg.conf.  Can anyone help please?
[16:09] <nickrud> whatver google
[16:09] <stefan_> woden: try the xorg reconfigure and let it estimate? usually works just fine :)
[16:09] <nickrud> !google joeytwiddle is a bot
[16:09] <joeytwiddle> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=joeytwiddle+is+a+bot
[16:09] <DASPRiD> nickrud, this sould work, shouldnt it? cp -a `find / -maxdepth 1 \( \! -name proc -a \! -name sys -a \! -name dev \) -print`
[16:09] <DASPRiD> when on a live-cd
[16:10] <prince_jammys> ah
[16:10] <woden> stefan_:  But I know the exact numbers.  I want to do it manually.
[16:10] <rrplay> woden: s ee this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26273.html  re shakin post
[16:10] <stefan_> woden: then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> edit -> save -> Ctrl + Backspace to restart X
[16:10] <fmoo> my display isn't supported by Ubuntu, but I have a modeline that "just works"
[16:11] <woden> stefan_:  How do I edit?  I don't know the syntax.
[16:11] <nickrud> DASPRiD: I'll take your word for it, I'm a real low level find user
[16:11] <stefan_> woden: the link rrplay gave you should explain it all :)
[16:11] <rrplay> woden: that was for your trash bin
[16:11] <fmoo> should I be giving it to the xorg people or ubuntu?
[16:11] <woden> rrplay:  Got it thanks.
[16:11] <stefan_> wode: though you can use any graphic editor yo edit the file if you want
[16:12] <rrplay> woden: you can also kinda google that que
[16:12] <woden> stefan_:  I'm comfortable with vi.  I just need to know the syntax to add the vertical/horizontal sync numbers to my "Monitor" section in the xorg.conf
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> fmoo, At this point I dont think it matters as the HArdy Xorg will be entirely different and your change is unlikely to be incoporated
[16:13] <stefan_> woden: ah, your current xorg.conf doesn't have a monitor section with preset refreshrates at the moment?
[16:13] <nickrud> fmoo: you should document it carefully (include /var/log/Xorg.0.log with and without and /etc/X11/xorg.conf) in a bug on bugs.ubuntu.com
[16:13] <woden> stefan_:  That is correct.
[16:13] <stefan_> woden: ok, hang on :)
[16:13] <prince_jammys>    HorizSync       30-107
[16:13] <prince_jammys>         VertRefresh     48-160
[16:13] <woden> stefan_:  Thanks.
[16:13] <prince_jammys> woden^
[16:13] <ben__> hey i am new to ubuntu and linux in general, i need to learn how to locate my applications in the filesystem
[16:13] <woden> prince_jammys:  Not quotes around the numbers?
[16:13] <stefan_> woden: ah, jammy beat me to it ;)
[16:14] <prince_jammys> woden that's what i have
[16:14] <askand> Hi, I installed ubuntu with wubi and now I get this when trying to boot " SDB: assuming drive cache: write through" and some kind of commandline called inittram something...what can I do?
[16:14] <woden> Do I put that in section "screen" or section "monitor" ?
[16:14] <beowulf_> hallow
[16:14] <Notamisfit> ben__: executables are in /bin or /usr/bin
[16:14] <DASPRiD> nickrud, but yeah i'm going to do it your way
[16:14] <prince_jammys> woden Monitor
[16:14] <izinucs> ben__: did you install something that  you can't find now?
[16:14] <ben__> thank you very much
[16:14] <rrplay> woden: again on a deb based sys you may need to run ifi you havent  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:14] <nickrud> DASPRiD: just back up /etc and all your data in /var I'd guess
[16:14] <DASPRiD> reinstalling the system with the dpkg clone method, but backuping /etc, /var and /home
[16:15] <stefan_> woden: you may want to do as rrplay said and edit the refresh values after yourself if required
[16:15] <ben__> well i have azurues installed and to use it i need to tell the torrent file to use azureus not transmission
[16:15] <woden> prince_jammys;rrplay;stefan_:  Do I put that in section "Screen" or section "Monitor" ?
[16:15] <prince_jammys> woden: in Monitor
[16:15] <woden> ok thanks
[16:15] <DASPRiD> nickrud, have to do it for my desktop system anyway, because i dont have splitted the boot/root partition here :)
[16:15] <rrplay> prince   your a prince thakx
[16:16] <prince_jammys> :)
[16:16] <Abdulz> where can i get free dictionary database file ? max comprehensive
[16:16] <stefan_> has anybody tried the latest ati drivers (manual compile) with the repository compiz fusion?
[16:16] <Abdulz> where can i get free dictionary database file ? max comprehensive?
[16:16] <nickrud> DASPRiD: I don't split out /boot anymore (I have had both 32bit and 64bit ubuntu on the same machine and having a separate shared boot won't work for that) , but I do keep a separate home
[16:17] <ompaul> !repeat | Abdulz
[16:17] <ubotu> Abdulz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:17] <DASPRiD> nickrud, when encrypting root you need seperated boot ;)
[16:17] <debian> Hello
[16:17] <nickrud> DASPRiD: ding! ding! the winna !
[16:17] <debian> I want my DGX220 Philips usb speakers to work, how?
[16:17] <prince_jammys> DASPRiD: careful with just copying using cp like that (unless you already know it works) -- i was reading online about problems when the dirs contain hard links
[16:18] <BadSector> Has anyone has any success with running Ubuntu on a geforce 6100 card?  I have tried Evny (all 3 drivers) and the suggested one, all with no luck... anyone got any more help for this?
[16:18] <DASPRiD> prince_jammys, i know that there are no hardlinks, that's fine
[16:18] <woden> prince_jammys:  Does this look correct?
[16:18] <woden>   Section "Monitor"
[16:18] <woden>         Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
[16:18] <woden>         HorizSync       31.5-81.0
[16:18] <woden>         VertRefresh     56-60
[16:18] <FloodBot2> woden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <Notamisfit> BadSector: not since edgy
[16:19] <ompaul> !paste | woden (please don't do that again)
[16:19] <ubotu> woden (please don't do that again): pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, Numbers look a bit generic, are they for your specific monitor
[16:19] <izinucs> BadSector: the 6000 series cards are very stable.. not sure why you're having an issue.. I used the restricted graphics manager to install the right driver. Never used envy.. I think it installs the latest and greatest which isn't always what you need.
[16:19] <debian> Is it possibole to use usb speakers in ubuntu?
[16:19] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  yes it's for my monitor http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?Product=437c10b5-a864-4f76-a011-5113f6157940
[16:20] <hapo> http://www.jameslaver.com/php_vs_python.png
[16:20] <prince_jammys> woden: did you look at the other link i posted some time ago?
[16:20] <stefan_> BadSector: I take it you're tried the restricted drivers?
[16:21] <woden> prince_jammys:  For the trash icon on the desktop?  Or was it something else?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> woden: for the splash screen and black screen on startup
[16:21] <ArmyMan007> hi all
[16:21] <woden> prince_jammys:  I may have missed it.  But that is still a problem.
[16:21] <ArmyMan007> I need some help with how to configure my Xubuntu network
[16:22] <prince_jammys> woden http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[16:22] <ArmyMan007> preffer privet chat
[16:22] <woden> prince_jammys:  Thanks I will check it out right now
[16:22] <tipino2> ciao
[16:22] <tipino2> !list
[16:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:22] <nonix4> BadSector: Umm, google search shows signs of evil monopolistic behaviour - planned obsolesence of 6100 :/
[16:23] <woden> prince_jammys:  I'm not using any of those resolutions.  I'm using 1680x1050.
[16:23] <baal> hi
[16:24] <woden> prince_jammys:  But I know I can take out the "quiet" and the "splash" from the end of the kernel line and that will fix the problem.
[16:24] <Shaffox> How can you see which ip adresses are up in your lan?
[16:24] <ArmyMan007> can anyone still help me out? please?
[16:24] <hermes> hey, how can i resize and split a md raid 0 partition on 2 drives, the raid partition is running raiserfs
[16:24]  * nonix4 hopes that isn't the case tho...
[16:24] <hermes> gparted wont do it
[16:25] <brobostigon> Shaffox: nmap
[16:25] <BadSector> nonix4: so you think that i'm just screwed w/ this card?   I have tired the suggested Restiricted driver, no luck.. and the other 3 driver going by Envy have done teh same thing... so sad... guess no ubuntu on this machine :(
[16:25] <nonix4> hermes: resize and split? well if you're not already using lvm, that thing will get tricky - easiest way is copying to another partition & recreating
[16:25] <Shaffox> brobostigon, you need nmap just to check how many pc's are connected to your lan?
[16:25] <ArmyMan007> i need help with configuring the network on Xubuntu (version 7.04) don't know how...
[16:25] <kingDiamond> ce faci mah pe aci?
[16:25] <Notamisfit> BadSector: what kind of error are you getting?
[16:25] <kingDiamond> e careva din romania?
[16:26] <hermes> nonix4, yea i thought so, btw can i run LVM and raid0 ?
[16:26] <nonix4> BadSector: there could be a way to get them restricted drivers working too...
[16:26] <Abdulz>  any good dictionary , comprehensive that can give me a database file in format of <word>space<defintion>     on each line?
[16:26] <prince_jammys> woden here is a xorg.conf from somebody with your monitor : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694162&page=4
[16:26] <BadSector> Notamisfit: the screen just freaks out after a few mins... all wavy, can't read a thing...
[16:26] <brobostigon> Shaffox: nmap will not just check the ip on your lan but the details of all the machines on your lan, read the tutorial on nmap website for full details
[16:26] <nonix4> hermes: sure, although lvm can do striping on its own w/out raid0 code if wanted...
[16:26] <BadSector> nonix4: do ya have a link for help on it?
[16:26] <hermes> nonix4, thats wanted :)
[16:27] <woden> prince_jammys:  Thanks.  I see that in my menu.1st the kernel loads with "splash" and "quiet".  I know if I take off those 2 my system will boot fine.
[16:27] <Shaffox> brobostigon, oké, thanks
[16:27] <ArmyMan007> I could still use some help... please...
[16:27] <nickrud> !ro | kingDiamond
[16:27] <ubotu> kingDiamond: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[16:27] <Notamisfit> BadSector: that's kinda odd; if the card isn't supported, usually it'll just fail right off the bat
[16:27] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: ifconfig configures your network connections :)
[16:27] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I don't know how to use ifconfig
[16:28] <ArmyMan007> stefan: n00b with Xubuntu
[16:28] <BadSector> Notamisfit: i know... i have compiz running, and it looks very nice.. but after a few mins, it will go all like "squelched" on me...
[16:28] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: It's a command line program, google knows all about that one.
[16:28] <nickrud> ArmyMan007: a wired connection
[16:28] <Notamisfit> BadSector: how does the card work with compiz turned off?
[16:28] <nickrud> !google | stefan_
[16:28] <ubotu> stefan_: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[16:29] <BadSector> Notamisfit: i will attempt that next i guess.. but I do really want the fluff :)
[16:29] <ArmyMan007> stefan: will it help me to setup my wireless internet connection?
[16:29] <nickrud> ArmyMan007: that was a question, and obviously not :)
[16:29] <Notamisfit> BadSector: yeah I know, but compiz/aiglx do some weird shit with video cards sometimes
[16:29] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: wireless is a different story
[16:29] <knoppix> holA
[16:29] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: you'll need iwconfig for that :)
[16:29] <woden> prince_jammys:  what is the code for vga= if my resolution is 1680x1050?
[16:29] <Notamisfit> does xubuntu not ship with network manager?
[16:29] <ArmyMan007> stefan: well
[16:29] <knoppix> hi
[16:29] <Odd-rationale> Notamisfit: It does.
[16:29] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I need to setup my wireless connection
[16:30] <rausb0> Notamisfit: xubuntu 7.10 does
[16:30] <BadSector> Notamisfit: so i should go thru the synaptic manager and uninstall the compiz stuff?
[16:30] <Notamisfit> use that then, it works better
[16:30] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I don't know how to do so
[16:30] <zbigniew_> Dzień dobry
[16:30] <prince_jammys> woden: i don't know. maybe you can try a lower res that's supported for the startup screen.  then X will take over with your other settings
[16:30] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: well what is the problem exactly
[16:30] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: is the wireless card detected?
[16:30] <Notamisfit> BadSector: shouldnt be necessary System->Preferences->Appearance has a panel to turn it off
[16:30] <choix-du-jour> Hi all, I had a problem upgrading to Gutsy Gibbon, how can repeat excluding the !st attempt?
[16:30] <ArmyMan007> stefan: there is no specific problem. I need guideness on how "to do" it all
[16:30] <choix-du-jour> *1st
[16:31] <knoppix> alguna chica
[16:31] <BadSector> Notamisfit: thx for the help, i will give that a shot
[16:31] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: well in that case... look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[16:31] <prince_jammys> !es | knoppix
[16:31] <ubotu> knoppix: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:31] <Notamisfit> BadSector: k
[16:31] <prince_jammys> and !ot
[16:32] <ArmyMan007> stefan: hope this helps
[16:32] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: good luck :)
[16:32] <ArmyMan007> stefan: be back in a bit... l8er :-)
[16:32] <stefan_> =)
[16:33] <mortal1> does anyone know where you set midnight commander's "open with" functionality?
[16:33] <stefan_> can anybody enlighten me on the latest ati driver's (non repository) compatibillity with the repos. compiz?
[16:33] <rausb0> mortal1: ~/.mc/bindings
[16:34] <mortal1> rausb0: I see tree, history and ini
[16:34] <crackhead_25> what is going wrong if when i click, applications, no menu drop down pops up from the menu bar at the bottom of the screen?
[16:35] <nickrud> stefan_: it works without xserver-xgl. If you use http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide it should integrate reasonably well
[16:35] <prince_jammys> crackhead_25: you can't access the applications menu?
[16:35] <isaacj87> hey everyone, does anyone know where I can find online radio stations to add to Banshee?
[16:35] <rausb0> mortal1: cp /etc/mc/mc.ext ~/.mc/bindings
[16:35] <rrplay> stefan: look here as well as compiz for new info http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-488385.html
[16:35] <amenado> isaacj87-> dont know if banshee plays these  shoutcast.com
[16:35] <stefan_> thanks guys
[16:36] <isaacj87> amenado, I'll give it a shot :)
[16:36] <stefan_> using the repos version now, looking to update the driver but was wondering about the system-break chance :P lol
[16:37] <nickrud> stefan_: hm, it's saying that the 8.3 version won't work with gutsy, it needs a more recent X. That's new
[16:37] <isaacj87> amenado, thanks! i think banshee can
[16:37] <rrplay> setfan: hang on i ll check compiz
[16:38] <amenado> isaacj87-> good to know that
[16:38] <stefan_> I've got it working with xgl at the moment :)
[16:38] <isaacj87> amenado, yeah, apparently banshee can handle any *.pls file
[16:38] <isaacj87> amenado, well, we'll see ;)
[16:39] <stefan_> rrplay: kk, will be here
[16:39] <rrplay> sefan: what card ?
[16:39] <stefan_> x700 mobillity
[16:39] <rrplay> thnkx
[16:40] <stefan_> in the mean time: if anybody can suggest an irc client less unorganized than xchat I'd be a happy camper XD
[16:40] <Abdulz> for dictd what is the name of the database that contains the words and definitions ?
[16:40] <fahadsadah> I typed "sudo rm -rf /". Is there any way to repair the damage? (I stopped it at around /dev)
[16:41] <amenado> too late
[16:41] <prince_jammys> oh boy
[16:41] <bazhang> ruh roh
[16:41] <amenado> the only way to repaits is install
[16:41] <fahadsadah> Load's of settings were lost, but that's about it
[16:41] <prince_jammys> reinstalling is faster than repairing that
[16:41] <KwisatzHaderac1> stefan: I use pidgin for my IRC client
[16:42] <fahadsadah> It still works
[16:42] <fahadsadah> Mostly
[16:42] <stefan_> thanks KwisatzH
[16:42] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: what did you delete?
[16:42] <rrplay> stefan: a lot of upgrade maybe look here ?? http://www.chr05210084.com/content/install-compiz-fusion-ubuntu-gutsy-using-ati-video-card
[16:42] <fahadsadah> Well, the /bin and /boot seem to be well stocked
[16:42] <fahadsadah> And they are first up
[16:43] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: what settings were you talking about?
[16:43] <ipe> fahadsadah: save your data then reinstall
[16:43] <fahadsadah> I can't open a terminal
[16:43] <macncheez3000> what is a good strandalone rss reader
[16:43] <stefan_> rrplay: I actually have it working buddy :) Was just looking for the bleeding edge driver compatibillity with compiz
[16:43] <fahadsadah> Opening an xchat lost my default network
[16:43] <stefan_> rrplay: the second link you gave me told me everything I needed to know :)
[16:43] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: backup and reinstall
[16:44] <stefan_> rrplay: thanks a lot :)
[16:44] <MenZa> I'm getting the "timestamp too far in future" error whenever I use sudo. How is it I fix this again?
[16:44] <rrplay> stefan" sure
[16:44] <rrplay> ok
[16:44] <fahadsadah> When I've successfully backed everything up, can I finish the job?
[16:44] <Eulex> hello, how is nvidia.ko installed on ubuntu? it doesn't appear to be in any installed package... but I've got it.
[16:44] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: sure
[16:45] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: for fun?
[16:45] <credible> Eulex: it comes from linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[16:45] <AdamNess> Anyone here using Monodevelop from Gutsy?
[16:45] <nickrud> !clone | fahadsadah (this might help speed up the reinstall)
[16:45] <ubotu> fahadsadah (this might help speed up the reinstall): To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:45] <Eulex> credible, I'll check, but odd then that dpkg -S doesn't find it
[16:45] <stefan_> MenZa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[16:45] <MenZa> stefan_: thank you.
[16:46] <credible> Eulex: that's because it's linked at boot by an init script
[16:46] <woden> can I mount an ntfs drive and copy data from it back to my ubuntu partition?
[16:46] <AdamNess> My Monodevelop dies every time I try to save a project with menus in it.
[16:46] <prince_jammys> woden: yes
[16:46] <stefan_> MenZa: last post on page one seems to have all you need :)
[16:47] <fahadsadah> ubotu
[16:47] <fahadsadah> I can't execute that command
[16:47] <fahadsadah> Terminal won't open
[16:47] <Eulex> credible, wow, why is that?
[16:47] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: do you have another computer?
[16:47] <nickrud> fahadsadah: try clt-alt-f2 , log in there
[16:48] <fahadsadah> No good, the shell won't load
[16:48] <Roshan> Hello all, can anyone tell me if there is any way I can increase my latency while playing online games like WoW? I seem to be having very high lag
[16:48] <lonejack> hi, what is the best family of RAID controllers ubuntu compatible?
[16:48] <fahadsadah> Bash is in /bin
[16:48] <solardeity> (
[16:48] <alberto> hola
[16:48] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: do you have another computer?
[16:48] <alberto> yes
[16:48] <fahadsadah> Yes
[16:48] <KwisatzH> Roshan: you mean decrease your latency right?
[16:48] <Roshan> Yup
[16:48] <stefan_> backup the data in home and reinstall? rm - rf = ouch
[16:48] <Roshan> Sorry :)
[16:48] <AdamNess> How do I update Mono to a cutting edge (1.2.6) version in Ubuntu?
[16:48] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: does your other comp run linux?
[16:49] <fahadsadah> When I tried it on another computer, it stopped
[16:49] <woden> prince_jammys:  How do I do it?
[16:49] <fahadsadah> prince_jammys, no
[16:49] <one> sup every1
[16:49] <fahadsadah> Hi
[16:49] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: is there another partition in your current computer?
[16:49] <beautifulsnow> Hi, no one is winehq is able to help so I figured I would ask here. My game is fully compatible with Wine, and always runs perfect (been running it for months) but now the game just runs in the background... I can't bring it to the foreground. Even if I say: wine Gw.exe --windowed, it just disapears into the background. Would apreciate any advice you may have.
[16:49] <woden> How do I mount my ntfs drive?
[16:49] <fahadsadah> I've got another disk
[16:49] <KwisatzH> Roshan: I would suggest get a higher tier broadband service if that's an option
[16:50] <fahadsadah> woden, install ntfs-3g
[16:50] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: you could then boot from live cd and mount the disks and copy the files to back up
[16:50] <fahadsadah> Backing up is not an issue
[16:50] <prahal_> hi do you have patch for gnome-cups-manager to get it to support "dynamic ppd" (hpijs.drv) ? I saw that you used hplip 2.8 which provides this dynamic ppd generator
[16:50] <stefan_> AdamNess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[16:50] <fahadsadah> I can do that easily
[16:50] <woden> fahadsadah: it's already installed how do I use it
[16:50] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: what's the issue?
[16:50] <fahadsadah> Do I absolutely have to reinstall?
[16:51] <rrplay> woden: then check you /etc/fsatb file ntfs-3g in that line
[16:51] <Roshan> KwisatzH: Unfortunately I cant do that, but WoW seems to be working better on windows, so there must be some way to make it work better on ubuntu too
[16:51] <shadowh511> hello
[16:51] <fahadsadah> There isn't some sorta "repair" function like in XP?
[16:51] <prince_jammys> woden: grep ntfs /etc/fstab and paste here
[16:51] <fabio> dont't paste here
[16:51] <prince_jammys> its only one line
[16:51] <woden> UUID=861CEC081CEBF15B /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:51] <fahadsadah> Yh, pastebin.ca
[16:51] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: that may be a que for  chat#wine
[16:51] <_moro_bana_> hello everyone! i  have problem with changing into a differnt directory here, have "mysite " inside "bkcode" . cd ~/bkcode worked but i failing to move int mysite
[16:52] <prince_jammys> woden can you browse to /media/sda1
[16:52] <shadowh511> if yiu want to repair it reinstall with your current installation as root
[16:52] <_moro_bana_> im*
[16:52] <stefan_> cd mysite?
[16:52] <woden> prince_jammys:  yes :)
[16:52] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: Im aware of that, I also sayd they are not responding there, so I figured I'd ask Ubuntians
[16:52] <prince_jammys> woden: that's it
[16:52] <fahadsadah> shadowh511, it's not like that
[16:52] <woden> prince_jammys: sweet
[16:52] <Odd-rationale> _moro_bana_: Try cd ~/bkcode/mysite
[16:52] <fahadsadah> I ran sudo rm -rf /
[16:52] <nickrud> fahadsadah: you could manually unpack libc6 and coreutils and dpkg into the disk, that should get you back to a point where dpkg works again. Depending
[16:53] <__mikem> fahadsadah, you can't say that!!!
[16:53] <_moro_bana_> Odd-rationale: cd mysite worked
[16:53] <Odd-rationale> _moro_bana_: ok
[16:53] <bazhang> __mikem: he did it
[16:53] <stefan_> =)
[16:53] <fahadsadah> ?
[16:53] <fahadsadah> I did it
[16:53] <__mikem> bazhang, WHY DID HE DO IT?
[16:53] <fahadsadah> Just testing
[16:53] <prince_jammys> ha
[16:53] <bazhang> not clear __mikem
[16:53] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: which game  the game config ??
[16:53] <_moro_bana_> stefan_: so what the use of ~/
[16:53] <Odd-rationale> _moro_bana_: ~ == home directoty
[16:54] <fahadsadah> _moro_bana_, ~ means /home/`$USER`/
[16:54] <Eulex> credible, as the nvidia-glx-new package does not contain the kernel module, how come it is versioned 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10?
[16:54]  * nickrud did it (without the /) thinking he wasn't in a root termihnal. He started using sudo right afterwards
[16:54] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: It's Guild Wars
[16:54] <prince_jammys> nice
[16:54] <fahadsadah> nickrud ran "sudo su"?
[16:54] <credible> Eulex: I have no idea. To suggest which kernel version to use?
[16:54] <fahadsadah> Or used "sudo passwd"?
[16:54] <Eulex> credible, perhaps.
[16:54] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I have been playing it full screen for months, but now... it runs but doesn't show on the screen :P
[16:55] <MenZa> fahadsadah: If you've deleted your root, there's not much you can do.
[16:55] <_moro_bana_> Odd-rationale fahadsadah: thanks , triying to start on building a website here
[16:55] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: where is the game config file ??
[16:55] <fahadsadah> OK, I'll go backup
[16:55] <nickrud> fahadsadah: no, sudo rm -r , wrong terminal. Happened to be in share
[16:55] <fahadsadah> Oh
[16:55] <phoenix5002> can anyone PLEASE help me get suspend working on my laptop? I'm desperate....
[16:55] <fahadsadah> I was bored so I ran "sudo rm -rf /"
[16:55] <stefan_> rofl
[16:55] <stefan_> bored
[16:55] <prince_jammys> classic
[16:56] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: There is no game config file, I believe. It only consists of Gw.exe, Gw.dat (contains the game itself) and a Gw.tmp which is where temporary data goes.
[16:56] <fahadsadah> Last time I tried it (non-ubuntu machine), it didn't work
[16:56] <Roshan> I am having extermely high latency while playing WoW. Any idea what could be the problem? It seems to be working well on windows
[16:56] <nickrud> fahadsadah: actually rm . I'm ingrained to use sudo when I think system files now. Saved my life since
[16:56] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: you should have done sudo rm -rfv / , more fun
[16:56] <fahadsadah> I don't use the root login
[16:56] <fahadsadah> Verbose?
[16:57] <prince_jammys> yeah
[16:57] <rrplay> beautifulsnow:  got you habg almost there
[16:57] <rrplay> hang
[16:57] <prince_jammys> fahadsadah: there's a youtube video of it
[16:57] <MenZa> !offtopic | prince_jammys
[16:57] <ubotu> prince_jammys: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:57] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: habg? ^^
[16:57] <fahadsadah> OK, I'll do the verbose one with stdout set to a cli IRC client
[16:58] <beautifulsnow> oh ^^
[16:58] <rrplay> beatifulsnow: hang on    sorry 32 or 64 bit ?? please
[16:58] <fahadsadah> Now my mouse isn't moving
[16:58] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I gotcha, thanks ;)  it's 32 bit, thanks for helping out
[16:58] <rrplay> you bet
[16:58] <ompaul> fahadsadah, you seem to be a tad offtopic
[16:58] <fahadsadah> Sorry
[16:59] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: look here last post ?? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-541633.html  ??
[17:00] <stefan_> crazy people
[17:00] <__mikem> isn't this the part where someone banns fahadsadah for flagrent trolling?
[17:00] <stefan_> " hey, I'm bored.. let's rm -rf" O_o
[17:01] <ompaul> That conversation is OVER, I have the keys to the door!
[17:01] <__mikem> ompaul, did you get my factoid addition request?
[17:02] <ompaul> __mikem, refused - would cause more questions than it answers
[17:02] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: Yes I have tried those arguments, they don't apply to this situation (GW has always worked A+ in Wine for me, with or without these options)
[17:02] <__mikem> ompaul, understood.
[17:02] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: ok got you now
[17:02] <rrplay> hang on
[17:04] <orudie> so far i have apache server setup, and a registered domain name, how can i make it so that my domain name will be pointed to my server ?
[17:04] <stefan_> you need a DNS service
[17:05] <me_> does anyone here use gutsy with amd64?
[17:05] <orudie> me_: i do, but i'm a noob
[17:05] <bazhang> me_: likely so; what is your question
[17:05] <orudie> bazhang: good morning !
[17:06] <stefan_> orudie: you need a DNS service, if the companny selling you the domain doesn't offer one, check here: http://www.zoneedit.com/
[17:06] <suckmynipple> hey hey hey
[17:06] <me_> well the eye candy (effects mgr) seems to have a nasty habit of not earasing windows when the programs shut down, or will leave a shadow where they were....ant tips?
[17:06] <orudie> stefan_: what about DynDNS.com ?
[17:06] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: look for directx 9 issues here   ?? http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/11/directx-90c-on-linux-with-wine.html
[17:07] <Nasra> nk
[17:07] <stefan_> orudie: doesn't DynDNS give you a domain name? like name.dyndns.com or something
[17:07] <woden> how do I change the Applications menu so it uses the default GNOME foot instead of the Ubuntu logo?
[17:08] <FXRS> Hey got a question when booting up. I want to get rid of the ugly brown between my log in and splash screen is there anyway of doing that?
[17:08] <me_> are there any issues between gnome and x11 sessions?
[17:08] <Nasra> hi, I have silly...what is the program to burn iso images...seems to have problem ....it says like loading kernels and then scroll a massage saying is corrupted...thanks for your help....
[17:08] <phoenix5002> can anyone PLEASE help me get suspend working on my laptop? I'm desperate....
[17:08] <me_> yes preferences, splash,
[17:08] <orudie> stefan_: i dont know i'm going to use what you gave me. in the middle of creating an account
[17:09] <FXRS> I have splash changed but still there is some of the ugly brown you see
[17:09] <me_> you  can change the beckground color there too
[17:09] <Nasra> what is the best program to burn iso images?
[17:09] <prince_jammys> woden as far as i know, that's not easy to do.  the name of the icon file is "start-here" and "distributor-logo" (located in /usr/share/icons somewhere)
[17:10] <me_> k3b by a long shot (iso to hd also)
[17:10] <ompaul> !suspend | phoenix24
[17:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:10] <ArmyMan007> hi all
[17:10] <ArmyMan007> look...
[17:10] <stefan_> got the network working :) ?
[17:10] <ArmyMan007> stefan: no
[17:11] <ArmyMan007> stefan: and god knows how am I going to do so...
[17:11] <martinjh99> Guys anyone know UK ubuntu.com mirror server?
[17:11] <me_> can anyone explain in english what x-11 is?
[17:11] <bloody`> armyman: you really enlisted?
[17:11] <bazhang> Nasra: you can right click on the iso and open with cd/dvd creator; brasero gnomebaker and k3b are all nice (though the last is kde)
[17:11] <prince_jammys> !X | me_
[17:11] <phoenix24> ompaul: what does suspend do ?
[17:11] <ubotu> me_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:11] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I need help.. as in step-by-steo guide
[17:11] <Nasra> me_....> I am withing windows right now...any other suggestions?
[17:11] <phoenix24> !X | phoenix24
[17:11] <ompaul> phoenix24, I was asking the bot
[17:11] <me_> will x-11 and gnome work together??
[17:12] <ompaul> me_, they do
[17:12] <prince_jammys> me_:  yes
[17:12] <ArmyMan007> not a guide, person... a live one too
[17:12] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: the link I gave you was pretty step by step wasn't it?
[17:12] <me_> i have display issues that are getting annoying
[17:12] <rrplay> beautifulsnow:: do o have  your directx 9 setup properly?
[17:12] <LeChacal> if i only have a cli install is there  away to copy a bunch of text from a command out put? I am not in nano or vi just strait cli.
[17:12] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: gui or cli?
[17:12] <ArmyMan007> stefan: step by step and still confusing... could use a live help
[17:12] <Sep1> I've been searching and experimenting for ages, but I can't for the life of me get the firefox menus transparent through compiz. Any advice?
[17:12] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: how can I tell?
[17:12] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: commmand > destinationfilename
[17:13] <stefan_> ArmyMan007: hm, that will conflict with my dinner. lol. I'll be back lateron to help if you need it. If not: good luck.
[17:13] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: sorry my question was not clearer; the step by step can be for the command line (cli)?
[17:13] <me_> well i cant change my nvidia setting if thats what you mean... it says it cant open the backup config file (using nvidia glx-new)??
[17:13] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: does that work with any command?
[17:13] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I don't mind waiting, but I need to do so with a live person, not with a guide
[17:13] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: does it matter?
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know of a good course for learning glade and pygtk ?
[17:14] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: only ones that output to stdout (standard output)
[17:14] <me_> how to think like a computer scientist is a goos tart. google it
[17:14] <eatatjoes2> hey i am trying to edit "/boot/grub/menu.lst" so that if i dont select anything at the boot menu screen (at grub) that it automatically boots into something different than ubuntu but it says "no write permission"
[17:14] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: ok thank you
[17:14] <phoenix5002> When I try to hibernate, my USB mouse stops working, is there a command I can run or something to get it to work again?
[17:14] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: what is the command you want output of?
[17:14] <me_> use sudo
[17:15] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: does it matter?
[17:15] <Roshan> is it a good idea to search for drivers for my network card (Dlink DWL 520 rev.b) even though my internet is working?
[17:15] <ArmyMan007> stefan: I don't mind waiting, but I need to do so with a live person, not with a guide
[17:15] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: whether gui or cli, best to read up before you attempt in channel live with a person-->good link-->command line here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[17:15] <orudie> stefan_: created account on zoneedit, whats the next step ?
[17:15] <admnew> sam7
[17:16] <jrib> Odd-rationale: http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html and http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/index.html for pygtk.  If you learn pygtk, using glade should be pretty straightforward from the docs
[17:16] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys, hey i tried to change the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and it wont let me, any idea why?
[17:16] <amenado> the magic word is please
[17:16] <woden> How do I remove the "209.7 GB Media" icon from my Desktop?
[17:16] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: i am trying to make a striped down version of ubuntu for the Eee PC and when i do install ubuntu-desktop it list all the packages that it is going to install and i want to sort through them in a GUI envorment for just the ones that i want
[17:16] <me_> disconnect the media
[17:17] <bazhang> LeChacal: the eeepc has a channel #eeepc and a wiki
[17:17] <me_> go to the settings mgr if you run kde
[17:17] <Odd-rationale> jrib: Thanks.
[17:17] <LeChacal> bazhang: i know
[17:17] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: it's own by root. you have to use sudo (or gksudo for graphical editors) to edit it
[17:17] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: *owned.  eg:  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:17] <me_> sudo pico example.list
[17:18] <phoenix5002> ./year "2 && cat .rtb3_password"
[17:18] <Roshan> is it a good idea to get drivers for my network card (Dlink DWL 520 rev.b) even though my internet is working?
[17:18] <woden> How do I remove the "209.7 GB Media" icon from my Desktop?
[17:18] <bloody`> roshan: no.
[17:18] <bloody`> roshan: leave it alone if it works :)
[17:18] <orudie> need help with zoneedit, anyone used this service before ?
[17:18] <me_> wooden what is the device its refferring too?
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Roshan, If you dont have a problem, dont try to fix it
[17:18] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: Thanks but it's not a issue with the game (it runs flawlessly)
[17:18] <Roshan> but I do have a problem mr. sparrow, WoW is lagging like hell for me
[17:19] <killown> I am trying install oss4 and  I get it error  Error: "OSS driver modules do not match the current kernel"  but I have compiled oss4 make install without errors can anyone help me?
[17:19] <me_> woden whats the media??
[17:19] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: what you need is the command that will list those packages noninteractively (not like apt-get that asks for input). otherwise what i suggested will probably not work
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Roshan, It isnt the netword cards fault.. ask the people in #WIne
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> #Winehq
[17:19] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I mean, it runs flawlessly (eek, even much much better than on windows, even if its at the best graphic rendering, under linux + wine it runs best :D)
[17:19] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: so if its flawless then what's the problem ?
[17:19] <Wolvez> somebody use ldap + samba here
[17:19] <Wolvez> ?
[17:19] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: The problem is wine is *no longer*  launching GW fullscreen >_>
[17:20] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: that is what i was kind of worried about i was going to try it right now to see what happened
[17:20] <Roshan> Jack_Sparrow: thanks alot, I think it is because I used sudo apt-get install wine
[17:20] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: for starters you can do::  apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop > myfile
[17:20] <tim167> hi, I want to buy a blootooth dongle, which one is well supported on ubuntu ? thanks
[17:20] <me_> ok heres one for the gurus...how do i load windows vista to run inside a window on my gnome desktop?!?
[17:20] <rrplay> beautifulsnoe: i thought that 1 st link i sent would resole that info
[17:20] <Roshan> perhaps I should have got it directly from their website
[17:20] <tim167> *bluetooth
[17:21] <brobostigon> !hcl | tim167
[17:21] <beautifulsnow> me_ search google for VirtualBox
[17:21] <ubotu> tim167: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[17:21] <woden> me_: I don't know, I guess it's just my hard drive.
[17:21] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: then take a look at the file. it's probably what you need
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Roshan, Nope, that is the right way to install wine..  even though WIne insists on you using the newer version
[17:21] <woden> me_: I don't know why it's an icon on my desktop though.
[17:21] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: i forgot about `show` that probably would work better.
[17:21] <Roshan> shucks..
[17:21] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: sorry, guide is usless to me... n00b to linux (keep in mind it's Xubuntu)
[17:21] <me_> woden why do you want to get rid of that icon??
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, You just want to get rid of a mount that shows up on your desktop.. use gconf-editor
[17:22] <me_> thanks beautiful
[17:22] <woden> me_:  Because it's not a proper GNOME icon.  It's some extra thing that Ubuntu added/changed to the default GNOME.
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, Mounts in media will show up on the desktop
[17:22] <XJamesX> anyone alive?
[17:22] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: more the reason to familiarize yourself with the terminology--few will want to teach the terms and get you connected live in one session--if you are well informed you can ask good questions and understand instructions more clearly
[17:22] <me_> change them in appearancees in prefrences....you can add new icno themes that are dl'ed at gnome-look.org
[17:23] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  That must be an Ubuntu thing, because default GNOME desktop does not show this media icon.
[17:23] <ashitaka> hello
[17:23]  * amenado second bazhang
[17:23] <me_> gutsy has it auto matically
[17:23] <ashitaka> anybody, let me know to set up the lxr, please
[17:23] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: getting to know wireless is a bit of a process from first to last--took me two weeks of intensive reading without IRC to start to understand
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, If you dont want it, remove it with setting in gconf-editor  volumes_visable or close to that
[17:23] <Burt> i have installed GaG boot loader, after installing windows xp on a new partition...i can boot xp from it but it says it cannot find the ubuntu/linux boot sector
[17:23] <Burt> any way i can fix this?
[17:24] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  I want removeable media to show up as an icon....Just not my main hard drive.
[17:24] <brobostigon> Burt: yes install grub
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Burt, reinstall grub
[17:24] <Flare183> Burt: you shouldn't have install another boot loader
[17:24] <Flare183> Burt: grub is perfect for both ubuntu and Windows
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, then change how it is mounted...  see man fstab
[17:24] <amenado> amazing all these varieties of boot loader people want to customize
[17:24] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: do you have compiz effect turned off ??
[17:25] <Sep1> I've been searching and experimenting for ages, but I can't for the life of me get the firefox menus transparent through compiz. Any advice?
[17:25] <Flare183> amenado: yeah
[17:25] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  It's my primary hard drive, it must be mounted there is no option.
[17:25] <Burt> Flare183, will it be pretty simple?
[17:25] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: appriciate the fact that you are willing to read and work with it, but I'm affriad time is a factor to me. I have a lot of respect to people like you, but it's usless to hand out manules to me, since I have no idea how to work with such. A one on one conversation get's me to know better what I'm doing, not a manual...
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, it does NOT need to be mounted in /media
[17:25] <Flare183> Burt: should be if you have the ubuntu live cd
[17:25] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: If I've hurt you in anyway, please forgive me...
[17:26] <Burt> Flare193, i have an old dapper one.
[17:26] <me_> i use grub for a dual boot, but you have to be carefull...the easiest way is to add linux (live cd) to already existing windows hd. partition it in the editor and install. win xp is defferent, though, you have to reinstall a dll file after grub loads
[17:26] <icheyne> hi all - I'm getting really frustrated because whenever I logout, my PCM volume mixer setting keeps resetting itself to a really quiet volume. How do I keep it high permanently?
[17:26] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  Where should it be mounted then?  Where does Debian Stable mount hard drive?
[17:26] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: It's been turned on for months, pretty much just as long as I have been playing guild wars on Wine (first things I did when I installed Ubuntu months ago was instal compiz + wine + virtual box + guild wars)
[17:26] <Flare183> Burt: then use it
[17:26] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: my intentions are not to harm, but to be assisted
[17:26] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process kondemand/0?
[17:26] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: just checkking out some other pages    we will get it soon
[17:26] <bazhang> ArmyMan007: no problem; just telling you my experience and that it would be a good idea to at least a bare bones idea before doing it in here live
[17:26] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> you're in a hurry because you are in the war theatre?
[17:26] <LeChacal> prince_jammys: i just tried it with some other packages and if i do an install and if it stops to ask anything it get stuck but with show it works so thank you
[17:27] <me_> kondemand is a KDE feature...
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, Ask then.. you can create a mount point anywhere you want.. read man mount   mkdir /data/sda1         or whatever you want
[17:27] <prince_jammys> LeChacal: cool
[17:27] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  Okay got it
[17:27] <me_> \maybe it loads something for you off the internet?
[17:27] <ArmyMan007> amenado: I'm in a hurry because I've got an army to go to (more likley IDF) and I'm the only one around my house to actually help people...
[17:28] <woden> How do I change the hostname of my Ubuntu installation?
[17:28] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> okay..lets see what we can do to assist
[17:28] <Flare183> woden: on the network window
[17:28] <ArmyMan007> bazhang: I appriciate your share...
[17:28] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> check if you a file called  /etc/network/interfaces
[17:28] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> is it possible to move this into a PM?
[17:29] <jrib> woden: system -> administration -> network
[17:29] <woden> Flare183:  Where is the network window?
[17:29] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> nope, because am not registered
[17:29] <ArmyMan007> k
[17:29] <prince_jammys> woden: i *think* you can do that with : sudo hostname yournewnamehere
[17:29] <_Oz_> Happy Saturday, Ubuntu friends.
[17:29] <d_mitry> how to set a command to run at start-up?
[17:29] <jrib> prince_jammys: that won't be permanent though
[17:29] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> i think freenode dont allow us unregistered to get pm
[17:29] <Flare183> woden: I think... System, adminstration, network
[17:29] <jrib> !startup > d_mitry (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:29] <bazhang> !yay | _Oz_
[17:30] <ubotu> _Oz_: Glad you made it! :-)
[17:30] <prince_jammys> jrib: what should he do?
[17:30] <jrib> prince_jammys: system -> administration -> network
[17:30] <d_mitry> jrib, thanks. :)
[17:30]  * _Oz_ grins, quietly pleased that he has been welcomed as such by bazhang.
[17:30] <Flare183> !autostart | d_mitry
[17:30] <danny> hey hello
[17:30] <ubotu> d_mitry: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[17:30] <Burt> Flare183, would this install over gag?
[17:30] <prince_jammys> woden: scrap that, see the other responses
[17:30] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> check if you a file called  /etc/network/interfaces   am using gnome, so maybe sllightly different than xubuntu
[17:30] <Flare183> Burt: yeah it should
[17:30] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> I'm in the interface part
[17:30] <d_mitry> wait, what if i'm not using gnome? shall i go to #kde and ask there?
[17:31] <d_mitry> that question is for Flare183 and jrib ^
[17:31] <Flare183> d_mitry: no goto #kubuntu
[17:31] <d_mitry> k.
[17:31] <bazhang> d_mitry: that would be #kubuntu
[17:31] <Flare183> d_mitry: i'm in there too
[17:31] <bazhang> oops
[17:31] <Burt> Flare183, is it safe to partition like I did? give a few gigs more to my huge ubuntu install and make the rest a new partition for xp?
[17:31] <prince_jammys> d_mitry: in kde you can add a startup script to .kde/Autostart
[17:31] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> so you do have it,, can you do this please,  paste in pastebin results of ifconfig;  iwconfig;  route -n  and the interfaces file content
[17:31] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> I'm in the interface part
[17:31] <Flare183> Burt: yeah just don't use any other bootloader
[17:32] <d_mitry> prince_jammys, what form would that script have? all i need is one command executed.
[17:32] <Ward1983> i installed ubuntu 7.10 on a regular partition of one of my harddrives while vista was allready installed on a fakeraid raid0 array, now grub gives error 17 because of the raid0 array, what can i do and how can i boot vista again? i can allready mount the fakeraid array, using dmraid
[17:32] <Burt> Flare183, would there be any special reason that windows xp has trouble booting every couple times?
[17:32] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> no internet connection... how do you expect me to paste it all?
[17:32] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> btw, i hope you dont have the infamous bcm43xx chip, that one, i can not assist, thats a monster to make work
[17:32] <Burt> Flare183, would it be xp's boot loader freaking out?
[17:32] <Flare183> Burt: I don't think so
[17:32] <harushimo> quick question
[17:32] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> you do have an internet connections, as you can chat with me on irc..
[17:32] <Burt> Flare183, huh
[17:33] <prince_jammys> d_mitry: make a text file with only that command in it. save it, and make it executable with :  chmod +x nameoffile.  then place it in .kde/Autostart
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado, I have had nothing but good luck with the bcm43xx using fwcutter..
[17:33] <Burt> Flare183, thats not good.
[17:33] <harushimo> I install my new hd but it is reading 465 not 500
[17:33] <KalEl> hi, how can i increase my screen resolution? the 'Screen and Graphics' is only showing upto 800x600, but i know it can be set at 1152x864
[17:33] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> you are one lucky guy
[17:33] <Flare183> Burt: Xp's boot loader sucks and it doesn't likes Ubuntu
[17:33] <d_mitry> prince_jammys, excellent! thanks :D
[17:33] <Flare183> Burt: What is it?
[17:33] <prince_jammys> d_mitry: name the file with extension .sh
[17:33] <harushimo> its feel like I'm losing memory
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado, I think I have done 4 different ones.. pcmcia, usb etc
[17:33] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> talking with you since I'm using another computer, not the problematic computer... going to eat and will be back...
[17:33] <Burt> Flare183, it just locks up right before user select alot
[17:34] <amenado> ArmyMan007-> alright, if am here..i will try to assist
[17:34] <Flare183> Burt: oh crap that's not good
[17:34] <ArmyMan007> amenado -> thanks! :-)
[17:34] <nickrud> harushimo: MB is not MiB , drive manufacturers lie
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> harushimo, Symantics...  and how they market the drives and post formatting sizes etc
[17:34] <Flare183> nickrud: hehe
[17:34] <harushimo> bastards
[17:35] <harushimo> I figured
[17:35] <harushimo> I've been noticing this more and more with hd
[17:35] <d_mitry> prince_jammys, thanks again.
[17:35] <Flare183> !language > harushimo (funny but againest policy)
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> harushimo, yep  1024 is one k or is it 1,000
[17:35] <archandrei> всем привет
[17:35] <harushimo> sorry
[17:35] <archandrei> Народ как настроение!
[17:35] <Flare183> wtm???
[17:35] <nickrud> !ru | archandrei (hopefully russian)
[17:35] <ubotu> archandrei (hopefully russian): Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:35] <Flare183> !greek
[17:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[17:35] <crackhead_25> hi, anyone have thoughts on my question about why i can't see the dropdown menu from the applications section of my ubuntu main menu bar?? system and places works fine, but the applications just highlights and no menu pops up????????????
[17:35] <Flare183> or greek hehe
[17:35] <Burt> Flare183,not sure why it wouldd do that......
[17:36] <prince_jammys> d_mitry  you're welcome. let me know if it works
[17:36] <Flare183> Burt: I don't know either
[17:36] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  I changed the location that it was mounted in from /media/sda1 to /home/woden/sda1, but I still see the icon on my desktop.
[17:36] <rrplay> beautifulsnow have you checked out the wine reg ?? http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys also wine wiki ?
[17:36] <woden> prince_jammys: I changed the location that it was mounted in from /media/sda1 to /home/woden/sda1, but I still see the icon on my desktop
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> woden, did you edit fstab as well?
[17:36] <woden> Jack_Sparrow:  yes I edited fstab and then restarted
[17:36] <prince_jammys> woden: so the icon is the only problem, correct?
[17:36] <bazhang> archandrei: russian?
[17:37] <woden> prince_jammys:  yes I do not want that icon on the front of the desktop.  If I want to see that hard drive, I will open up Computer and see it there.
[17:37] <prince_jammys> woden OK that is a gnome thing - ask the channel because i use kde
[17:37] <archandrei> да я Русский
[17:37] <Burt> :P
[17:37] <pinstp> i am having trouble controling my laptop from my desktop can someone help me
[17:38] <bazhang> archandrei: type /j #ubuntu-ru  ;]
[17:38] <carpediem> pinstp: that's not very specific, be more specific, and maybe we can help
[17:39] <bullgard4> jrib: [Gnome] System > Adminstration > Network opens the 'Network Preferences' window. > tab 'General' shows an entry in the 'computer name' field but nothing in the 'domain name' field. What situations require that I fill in a name in the 'domain name' field? (My Samba LAN works all right.)
[17:39] <pinstp> using tsclient i want to control my laptop that has windows xp on it
[17:39] <prince_jammys> woden here you go, i think this is it: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[17:39] <carpediem> pinstp: okay, and what's your problem?
[17:40] <IndyGunFreak> woden: all you ahve to do is uncheck it in gconf-editor
[17:40] <prince_jammys> woden: the url says it all :)
[17:40] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: What do you expect I should change there? I searched my local copy to see if there was anything I could change that would help, but it seems it's just a bunch of: "install path
[17:40] <woden> prince_jammys;IndyGunFreak:  yes but I still want my removeable drives to show up.  Just not another partition on my SATA hard drive.
[17:40] <beautifulsnow> oops
[17:41] <pinstp> every time i type in my ip for computer in tsclient it gives me an error saying no host
[17:41] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: a bunch of strings showing where the game is located, etc,
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> prince_jammys, Wonder what   sudo mount | grep media            would show for woden
[17:41] <IndyGunFreak> woden: does it only show up when mounted?
[17:41] <artur__> How to make a serial mouse works in the ubuntu. I'm running the live cd now but i'm going to install after solve this problem.
[17:41] <carpediem> pinstp: have you RDPd to that machine before?
[17:41] <crackhead_25> Jack_Sparrow: do you have any thoughts on that question? it's very puzzling ot me
[17:41] <pinstp> nope
[17:42] <woden> IndyGunFreak:  I don't know....I have it set to automount in my fstab.
[17:42] <prince_jammys> woden: well, a round-about  way would be to remove them and then add the ones you want back by making symlinks on your desktop
[17:42] <getoo> i am looking for a gui app to share my internet connection (internet = eth0 and wanna share it using wifi with eth1 ) i already did the dnsmasq ipmasq , but i am looking for a gui app :P
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> woden: ok
[17:42] <getoo> i dd google
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> crackhead_25, Which question.. I'm only here for a few while I dl some stuff for the wife
[17:42] <getoo> no help there
[17:42] <carpediem> pinstp: well, have you turned on RDP (Right click My computer, Remote tab)
[17:42] <pinstp> yes
[17:43] <Burt> Flame183, could you walk me through reinstalling grub?
[17:43] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: the screen settings etc
[17:43] <brobostigon> !grub | burt
[17:43] <carpediem> pinstp: first, try pinging that machine "ping 1.2.3.4"
[17:43] <ubotu> burt: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:43] <farruinn> How do I grow an ext3 partition to fill the partition containing it? (The partition thinks it is 6GB but the partition is 15GB)
[17:44] <pinstp> ok hold on
[17:44] <vallhalla81> !halo
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about halo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <prince_jammys> woden: in other words, follow that link to remove all the "removable media" icons, and then create links with ln -s /mount/point ~/Desktop/nameoficon  and then change the icons on the desktop to whatever you want by right-clicking on them
[17:44] <Flannel> farruinn: You have an 6GB logical partition inside of a 15GB extended partition?
[17:44] <getoo> !dns
[17:44] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[17:44] <Burt> brobostigon, is it okay to use dapper live cd?
[17:44] <Srikar> unsoved mistery
[17:45] <IndyGunFreak> Burt: why wouldn't it be?
[17:45] <Srikar> plzz help me out
[17:45] <farruinn> Flannel: No, I used dd to copy my root from my old hard drive to my new hard drive
[17:45] <Srikar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712146
[17:45] <Srikar> this is my problem
[17:45] <pinstp> it says successful packets 100%
[17:45] <brobostigon> Burt: to install grub, i suppose so, and then follow intructions from help.ubuntu.com
[17:45] <Srikar> ??
[17:45] <Flannel> farruinn: Ah, ok.  Well, fire up a liveCD, open up Gparted, and see what thinks it's where.
[17:45] <EdwardXp> im trying to do a udevtest; and im not sure what device path i should use.. heh i don't even know what device path is??
[17:45] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: wine reg X11 Driver ??
[17:45] <farruinn> Flannel: gparted, parted, and fdisk all see the 15 gb hard drive
[17:45] <Srikar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712146
[17:45] <farruinn> Flannel: s/hard drive/partition
[17:46] <carpediem> pinstp: that means you are able to connect to it.  now try telnet 1.2.3.4 3389
[17:47] <EdwardXp> can someone help me out with udevtest?
[17:47] <pinstp> ok then what
[17:47] <carpediem> pinstp: you didn't get connection refused?
[17:47] <pinstp> no
[17:48] <amortvigil> hey im running steam and i get this error that i have not enough diskspace... what should i do?
[17:48] <carpediem> pinstp: hmm, that's surprising.  If you were having problems with Windows firewall, that should've failed.....
[17:48] <saxofoner> amortvigil: running steam in wine?
[17:48] <amortvigil> yeah
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> amortvigil: uh, give it more disk space?
[17:48] <saxofoner> how much disk space do you have?
[17:48] <Flannel> farruinn: you dded a partition to a partition? or a drive to a partition? or a drive to a drive?
[17:48] <EdwardXp> <--- uses crossover :)
[17:48] <amortvigil> IndyGunFreak, i got enough more than enough
[17:48] <saxofoner> you can't run steam apps from an ntfs partition, I know that much
[17:48] <Leechzilla> Is there a command I can use to find the length of a video?
[17:49] <pinstp> so is there anyway to get it to work
[17:49]  * IndyGunFreak just uses Linux native games, or games I know work w/ wine
[17:49] <carpediem> pinstp: what happens when you "rdesktop 1.2.3.4" ?
[17:49] <amortvigil> saxofoner,  its on my ext3
[17:49] <amortvigil> i think
[17:49] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I find this line : "RelayFromExclude"="winex11.drv;user32;gdi32;advapi32;kernel32" as well as "[Software\\Wine\\X11 Driver] 1204996416" at the end of file. No idea what that means ;P
[17:50] <farruinn> Flannel: I did 'dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda3, but I think I found my answer: 'resize2fs /dev/sda3'. The page I'm looking at says that will resize the filesystem to fill the partition, so I'll look into that.
[17:50] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: what you are experincing is a poss problem with a display extension
[17:50] <amortvigil> IndyGunFreak, and im sure installing it from orangedisk will work ... did its yob yes day... but i need hl2 deathmatch wich not on orangebox
[17:50] <Flannel> farruinn: sounds good.  Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too, just couldn't find the exact command.
[17:50] <saxofoner> what's the name of the channel for ubuntu off topic?
[17:50] <rrplay> beautifulsnow : you are able to render directxp ok
[17:51] <farruinn> Flannel: Ooh, the man page says it can even grow an ext3 filesystem while it's still mounted :)
[17:51] <pulica> who knows how to make my ubuntu box into a router for my desktop pc?
[17:51] <starked> Does anyone here know how I'd change the axis designations on my joystick?  I'm trying to use one of those "universal USB converters" to hook up a PS2 controller, and it's assigning the D-pad to the 9th and 10th axes.  This makes it so that any program I try to use the joystick with doesn't recognize it.  Any help?
[17:51] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: and you have the proper extension avail even though you disable compiz??
[17:51] <stephantom> hey there! anyone here skilled with sox? I'm looking to downsample an audio file to about 100hz, better 50. ffmpeg allows this, sox just gives empty result files. I'd really like to use sox.
[17:52] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: no we getting somewhere
[17:52] <ke1> im trying to figure out how to share a printer,  but i cant seem to get it to work. i did what this tutorial i found said to do but the computer still wont find the printer.
[17:52] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: cjeck out your X11 xorg.conf and see if composite is true or false ??
[17:53] <Flannel> farruinn: usually its better to use `find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt` (or something of that ilk, with find/cpio)
[17:53] <boiwander> Hello... I have what is probably a simple question. I'm wanting to install 7.10 on an external 2.5 hdd. If I choose "Guided - use entire disk", and I choose the external drive", will it leave the internal drives alone?
[17:53] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: even if I kill compiz or make sure it doesnt load when I login, Guild Wars still disapears from the screen
[17:53] <brobostigon> ke1: what platform is this printer going to share to??
[17:53] <farruinn> Flannel: For copying a partition?
[17:53] <Flannel> farruinn: yeah
[17:53] <bazhang> boiwander: just make sure it is the correct disk ;]
[17:53] <rrplay> cheack out xorg.conf for composite true or false please
[17:54] <farruinn> Flannel: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
[17:54] <ke1> brobostigon: windows xp/vista
[17:54] <brobostigon> ke1: have a look at samba
[17:54] <ke1> brobostigon: how?
[17:54] <brobostigon> !samba | ke1
[17:54] <ubotu> ke1: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:54] <Leechzilla> Is there a command I can use to find the length, codec etc of a video?
[17:55] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: when you stop compiz you no loger need composite enabled
[17:55] <ke1> brobostigon: i think i editted the smb.conf file right, but how do i restart the service?
[17:55] <boiwander> boiwander: Here is the screenshot of what I would be choosing.... http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/vyco10/Screenshot-Install.png
[17:55] <ke1> brobostigon: sudo service is an unknown command
[17:55] <boiwander> Oopps, I meant to address that toi bazhang
[17:55] <brobostigon> ke1: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[17:55] <acee1234> what is the proper driver setup for an ati x1400 with compiz ive reformatted 3 times this month by suggestion of /ubuntu and /compiz-fusion fglrx messes up video playback and freezes the computer at logoff
[17:56] <stephans> high-freq, I have NTFS 3g loaded to access a external hard drive... but i cant copy files larger than 4 GIG to it! Whats up? I know that is not an NTFS problem...
[17:56] <Burt> Flame183, this windows half booting problem is ...well a problem...should i attempt to fix that?
[17:56] <Burt> first?
[17:56] <EdwardXp> LoL
[17:56] <EdwardXp> why didn't anyone tell me this localhost existed???
[17:56] <EdwardXp> http://localhost:631/
[17:57] <boiwander> bazhang: sorry, I flubbed the URL - http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg122/vyco10/Screenshot-Install.png
[17:57] <Ward1983> ok last attempt: i spent the whole *!@#$@* day trying to install, the only non standard thing is that i want to multiboot with vista thats installed on a fakeraid array, can anyone help me out?
[17:57] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: Ok so I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do a search for "composite" or just "comp" to see if it comes up?
[17:58] <ke1> brobostigon: it wont even find the printer or anything on the computer
[17:58] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: what graphic card pls
[17:58] <dahump> Has anyone experienced all their videos playing in black and white instead of color?
[17:58] <starked> Does anyone here know how I'd change the axis designations on my joystick?  I'm trying to use one of those "universal USB converters" to hook up a PS2 controller, and it's assigning the D-pad to the 9th and 10th axes.  This makes it so that any program I try to use the joystick with doesn't recognize it.  Any help?
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> dahump: nope.
[17:58] <saxofoner> dahump- what's your graphics driver?
[17:58] <orangey> hey all!
[17:58] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: nvidia nvs 110 quatro
[17:58] <voici> hi, i accidently deleted the apache config files. how can i force apt to recreate them? after apt-get remove/install apache2 they arent recrated. thanks
[17:58] <orangey> Does anybody have any idea how I could record outputted sound?
[17:58] <Yash> Hello, I would like to contribute to ubuntu as a developer.
[17:58] <dahump> intel onboard chip
[17:58] <rrplay> beautifulsnow : xorg.conf composite false
[17:58] <saxofoner> driver dude
[17:58] <orangey> like within a skype session or such?
[17:58] <saxofoner> not card
[17:59] <Yash> Can someone please guide me?
[17:59] <woden> How do I change Nautilus to the default spatial mode?
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> !develop | Yash
[17:59] <ubotu> Yash: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:59] <bazhang> boiwander: is sdc the external hard drive? should be fine then
[17:59] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: when I search etc x11 xorg.conf for the work 'comp' nothing comes up
[17:59] <brobostigon> ke1: sorry, but ask for someone more experiences, or look on samba website they have long tutirials on there to set this up, you may want to have a look on tldp.org too.
[17:59] <mikelinux> hi
[18:00] <DjDarkstar> hi
[18:00] <dahump> 82945G/GZ Integrated
[18:00] <boiwander> bazhang: Yes, that's the external. Thank you for your help.
[18:00] <bazhang> np
[18:00] <DjDarkstar> Anyone familiar with soundwrapper
[18:00] <rrplay> beautifulsnow   nvidia-xconfig -A | less    read     and then   nvidia-xconfig -- no-composite   also read about extensions
[18:00] <saxofoner> dahump: just a sec, I'm going to dig through my bookmarks
[18:00] <dahump> It wasn't always like this.....
[18:00] <chi11y> I have no sound on ubuntu gutsy
[18:00] <dahump> all my screensavers, alien arena, all that stuff works great.
[18:01] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: Whats that do?
[18:01] <dahump> videos used to work fine, this is a new development.....
[18:01] <chi11y> I'm using logitech X-530 speakers
[18:01] <corrado22> ciao
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> dahump: is that an intel chipset?
[18:01] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I mean, I haven't made any changes to the x file
[18:01] <chi11y> Where can I get drivers?
[18:01] <saxofoner> dahump: have you pinpointed what video codecs/players have trouble?
[18:01] <rrplay> beautifulsnow{ when you no longer use compiz you no longer need the --composite switch
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: how do you know its the speakers that aren't working(which seems pretty unlikely)
[18:01] <beautifulsnow> rrplay:  dont we have to check if its on first?
[18:01] <Burt> Jack_Sparrow, is there a way I could reinstall grub, but not make it the default so my boot manager can use it..?
[18:01] <dahump> well, it appears to be all of them. I just installed VLC thinking that would solve, but no luck.
[18:01] <DjDarkstar> need help with soundwrapper please
[18:01] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, they work under windows
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: thats totally irrelevant, and not what i asked
[18:02] <Spud_> i need help with pidgin
[18:02] <Spud_> can anyone help?
[18:02] <beautifulsnow> !ask > Spud_
[18:02] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, oh, sorry, I misread the question
[18:02] <knoppix> alguien habla español para ayudarme?
[18:02] <brobostigon> Spud_: fire away??
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> Spud_: just ask, or join #pidgin
[18:02] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, well, I'm not very sure
[18:02] <dahump> Yes, IndyGunFreak, it's Intel chipser.
[18:02] <dahump> chipset
[18:02] <saxofoner> dahump: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/149791 similar issue
[18:02] <Spud_> when i try to start it
[18:03] <Spud_> it doesnt connect
[18:03] <dahump> thanks!
[18:03] <Spud_> but firefox and all that works
[18:03] <knoppix> necesito ayuda con particion
[18:03] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, but there is no sound on flash, and gstreamer just complains and refuses to work
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: open a terminal, and type "lspci" no qutoes, and see how it identifies your sound device.. don't paste the whole freakin output here.
[18:03] <chi11y> ye ok (:
[18:03] <beautifulsnow> !es knoppix
[18:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es knoppix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:03] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[18:03] <beautifulsnow> !es > knoppix
[18:03] <DjDarkstar> how do i make sure that bash is my default shell ... i don't want dash
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: are there any others listed there?.. like do you havfe two sound devices?
[18:04] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, nawh, well
[18:04] <jrib> DjDarkstar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash.  Why don't you want dash?
[18:04] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, 04:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[18:04] <lee112> hi does anybody no if its possible to dual boot ultimate edition and linux mint?
[18:04] <chi11y> but no other device
[18:05] <DjDarkstar> frostwire/lindvd etc
[18:05] <woden> How do I change Nautilus to the default spatial mode?
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: don't think thast it.
[18:05] <jrib> lee112: probably
[18:05] <tchaska> After update ubuntu my windows network has stoped working... I can see windows networks but there is no workgroups inside.  Anybody know how to fix that?
[18:05] <bazhang> lee112: as neither of those are supported here you best ask in their channels
[18:05] <saxofoner> dahump: sounds like some setting that sort of changed itself, if you read those last dozen or so  responses
[18:05] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, well, I cant find nothing more
[18:05] <saxofoner> very interesting
[18:05] <DjDarkstar> thx jrib
[18:06] <MatBoy> when I have XFCE installed and want to install KDE also, what packages do I need to include in apt-get to get it running at once ?
[18:06] <harushimo> thanks everyone
[18:06] <jrib> DjDarkstar: dash should work fine though :/
[18:06] <harushimo> I appreciate the help
[18:06] <MatBoy> I think I need more than just apt-get install kde
[18:06] <jrib> !kde > matboy (read the private message from ubotu)
[18:06] <amenado> it escaped me for a moment, how do i check what type of filesystem is on a partition,  an external drive ?
[18:06] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: if i still use compiz, wont writing --no-composite to the x config going to make it impossible to launch compiz
[18:06] <jrib> woden: there is probably a setting in gconf-editor under /apps/nautilus/preferences
[18:07] <MatBoy> jrib, thanks
[18:07] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I dont mind trying it to make sure compiz is the problem, but why would compiz be the problem when it never ... gave problems?
[18:07] <Flannel> MatBoy: kde is the vanilla kde, you may want kubuntu-desktop instead
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: i knew i'd read that somewhere... try following the instructins in post 3   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564972
[18:07] <carpediem> woden: you uncheck Always Open In Browser Windows
[18:07] <lee112> how do i change channels?
[18:07] <MatBoy> Flannel, installing that one right now
[18:07] <prince_jammys> lee112: /join #yourchannel
[18:07] <MatBoy> XFCE is buggy at the moment
[18:07] <giacomo> msg p-mp3-sophia xdcc send #1
[18:08] <woden> carpediem:  where is that check box located?
[18:08] <rrplay> beautifulsnow: you may have to switch it bak to --enable-composite   that why you have the nvidi-xconfig file to study a bit because thats key for info on forums wiki etc to config your particular card ans screen
[18:08] <carpediem> woden: Behavior tab in prefs
[18:09] <ttt--> how come the x system is under ctr+shift F7 ? is there a reason for this, or is it just random
[18:09] <woden> carpediem:  Where is behavior tab in prefs?
[18:09] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: I'm only wondering why do all this because  I havent made any changes to my system recently. Any at all.
[18:09] <Deeppact> Hello, I have a sound issue the music in Totem Movie Player 2.20.0 works but elsewhere it just does'nt any answers?
[18:09] <carpediem> woden: can you open Preferences in a nautilus window?
[18:09] <carpediem> woden: Edit > Preferences
[18:10] <woden> carpediem: thanks.
[18:10] <rrplay> beautifulsnow:: because it things worked as they did before then something changed
[18:10] <DjDarkstar> Anyone using LinDVD (yes i know it's not free) I converted a copy from my mandriva disc to deb and it works on my laptop but not my desktop. I get an error.... why would it work on one and not the other?
[18:10] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, nope, sorry, there isnt even a switches tab :P
[18:10] <orudie> can anyone recommend a DynDNS client ?
[18:11] <Deeppact> Hello, I have a sound issue the music in Totem Movie Player 2.20.0 works but elsewhere it just does'nt any answers?
[18:11] <beautifulsnow> rrplay: alright, rebooting
[18:11] <EdwardXp> where can i get the defenition for var share bin etc ... ???
[18:11] <carpediem> woden: Also, in gconf-editor under apps > nautilus > preferences, there is an option no_ubuntu_spatial.  I don't know what that does, but just in case spatial doesn't work like you expect, maybe that's something to play with
[18:11] <EdwardXp> so i know that the root folder is organize properly for me to understand it
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: i have no logical explanation, there's others in that thread who claim to have found the fix by downlloading a driver from Creative, try reading throiugh that thread
[18:11] <prince_jammys> EdwardXp: you mean understand thw linux file system?
[18:11] <EdwardXp> yah
[18:12] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, okey, well thanks anyway (:
[18:12] <Flannel> !files | EdwardXp
[18:12] <ubotu> EdwardXp: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[18:12] <MatBoy> Flannel, does gnome also has a ubuntu version ?
[18:12] <MatBoy> so not a vanilla ?
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:12] <Flannel> MatBoy: yeah, ubuntu-desktop
[18:12] <EdwardXp> thanks
[18:12] <Deeppact> Hello, I have a sound issue the music in Totem Movie Player 2.20.0 works but elsewhere it just does'nt any answers?
[18:12] <MatBoy> Flannel, ok, better than KDE I guess, I don't dislike KDE, but I took XFCE for speed
[18:13] <Mingys> hi
[18:13] <Mingys> need quick help
[18:13] <Mingys> when i do $file filename.tar
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> Mingys: well, we all failed mind-reading 101..
[18:13] <carpediem> Deeppact:  don't really understand what you are saying
[18:13] <Mingys> it says to me that this TAR file is a HTML file
[18:13] <Mingys> and i know that it is rly a TAR file
[18:13] <carpediem> Deeppact: are you saying sound works in totem but not elsewhere, or that it works everywhere except totem
[18:14] <Mingys> how can i change its header from HTML to TAR ?
[18:14] <Deeppact> carpediem, look my music in Totem player the normal media player works
[18:14] <orudie> could anyone please recommend a dynamic dns client
[18:14] <Deeppact> carpediem, but if i try to use Amarok or VLC player it does'nt work
[18:15] <carpediem> Deeppact: go into System > Preferences > Sound, and change the settings for sound playback, hit test on each one, until one works.
[18:15] <Deeppact> carpediem, it worked a while ago didnt made changes
[18:15] <Deeppact> carpediem, ok il try that
[18:16] <carpediem> Deeppact: I had this same problem, I am trying to remember what I did....but I think what I just told you was it
[18:17] <lee112> which is better limewire or frostwire?
[18:17] <Antonio_> hi everyone
[18:17] <Deeppact> carpediem, i get some beeps with 2 or 3 of the options - I selected one now il try VLC player
[18:17] <DRebellion> Mingys, file doesn't lie
[18:18] <NattyTux> Hello!
[18:18] <lordleemo> orudie: no-ip   http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/dynamic-dns-no-ip.html
[18:18] <NattyTux> Question : where is the best place to install softwares??? (directory)
[18:18] <DRebellion> lee112, no polls go to ---> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:18] <amenado> Mingys-> i do not know of a way to manipulate magic numbers
[18:18] <Deeppact> carpediem, Dude ur the man it works thx alot
[18:18] <carpediem> Deeppact: great
[18:18] <DRebellion> amenado, Mingys, you could techically probably use a hex editor to fool file but then the the file just won't work
[18:19] <amenado> NattyTux-> in a partitions where you have alot of spaces
[18:19] <Antonio_> i have a problem with the wireless adapter
[18:19] <woden> Is this the correct kernel for my processor (Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4 GHz)?  /home/woden/NeverwinterNights/nwn/dialog.tlk
[18:19] <Antonio_> usb
[18:19] <woden> Linux valhalla 2.6.24-11-generic #1 SMP Fri Feb 29 21:26:31 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:19] <carpediem> lee112: frostwire is open source, limewire is not, enough said.
[18:19] <amenado> DRebellion-> i cannot disagree
[18:19] <NattyTux> amenado: I meant, in which directory??? programs which I compile from source
[18:19] <rsk> yea woden
[18:19]  * sdsheeks hugs his astaro setup
[18:20] <amenado> NattyTux-> create a directory called /mysource  and dump it there?
[18:20] <NattyTux> amenado: in the root dir? or under /home/USERNAME ....?
[18:20] <sdsheeks> Well folks today marks 30 days from the date i switched from gentoo and I'm loving it.
[18:21] <NattyTux> amenado: I ask it because I was told , by a tutorial to install it under /usr/local/bin , but it makes no sense, since it requires using the
[18:21] <woden> how do I get sound working?  It's not working atm
[18:21] <amenado> NattyTux-> wherever you have plenty of spaces, if /home is a separate partition, sure go ahead and create a subdir within that
[18:21] <abelabel> hi, I'm trying to recover data from the hard disk of a laptop that has boot problems. I'm now using an old live cd. The disk I want to recover is listed in the Sytem-> Disks Manager menu but has status 'inaccessible'. Is there still a way to access the disk? Would using a recent live cd be better?
[18:21] <NattyTux> amenado: thanks
[18:21] <DG19075> is having fun with Ultimate Edition 1.7
[18:21] <orudie> the installation of ddclient is prompting for the interface for DNS client.. what do they mean by that ?
[18:22] <Flannel> DG19075: Ultimate Edition is a cheap knockoff.  Suggest you use the proper one, as it contains everything anyway, without the brokenness
[18:22] <gralco> hi guys
[18:22] <farruinn> NattyTux: That tutorial mean you should use '--prefix=/usr/local' when running ./configure. The source can be anywhere.
[18:22] <amenado> orudie-> on ubuntu?
[18:22] <orudie> amenado yup
[18:22] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: you should make that an ubotu trigger..lol
[18:22] <Brownigan> i get "GRUB _" on bootup and tried reinstalling grub, only to get the same error
[18:22] <amenado> orudie-> i dont use ddclient, which package that came out of?
[18:23] <Spunky> Hey guys I have a problem with the add/remove list when I try to install something. I keep getting a window that says "The list of applications is not available. To refresh you need a working internet connection." And I even tried the apt-get install command and it won't work either. Any idea on how to fix?
[18:23] <Brownigan> grub is not installed to the mbr, since i'm chainloading it from rEFIt on a macbook pro
[18:23] <orudie> amenado: just did sudo apt-get install ddclient
[18:23] <lesshaste> geirha, wireless is working now :)
[18:23] <amenado> orudie-> why? dhclient is stock, you dont like dhclient?
[18:24] <NattyTux> amenado: I see, thanks alot
[18:24] <orudie> amenado: didnt know about dhclient
[18:24] <farruinn> Spunky: try running 'sudo apt-get update' to update the package list
[18:24] <orudie> amenado: i just need anything that would point my domain to my ip
[18:24] <orudie> amenado: dynamic ip that is
[18:24] <Spunky> Alright will do sir.
[18:24] <amenado> Spunky do you have internet access ?
[18:24] <Spunky> ...
[18:24] <Spunky> yes
[18:25] <amenado> orudie  dhclient eth0  assuming your nic is eth0
[18:25] <stefan_> oh god
[18:25] <KalEl> assuming both work, what is preferable, generic linux kernel or i386 linux kernel?
[18:25] <stefan_> that's one for bash.org
[18:25] <Flannel> KalEl: generic
[18:25] <KalEl> ok thanks
[18:25] <Flannel> Spunky: do `sudo apt-get update` and pastebin the output (see !paste for pastebin)
[18:26] <KalEl> also why is generic preferable?
[18:26] <Flannel> KalEl: 386 is for people who have problems running generic
[18:26] <Spunky> sam@sam-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update
[18:26] <Spunky> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/main Translation-en_GB
[18:26] <Spunky> Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_GB
[18:26] <Spunky> Reading package lists... Done
[18:26] <Spunky> sorry for that long crap but that's all i got actually
[18:26] <orudie> amenado: a little more specifics please? i'm a noob
[18:27] <Flannel> !paste | Spunky
[18:27] <Flannel> Spunky: alright, well, your problem is you have no internet sources.  Which is odd, but thats ok.
[18:27] <Mingys> How can i download the file from this link? http://palabre.gavroche.net/download/?getFile=2
[18:27] <stefan_> that happens if ubuntu can't find internet acces at install time
[18:27] <Mingys> i tried Links
[18:27] <Maimster> Good afternoon to all ubuntoonians...
[18:27] <Mingys> but it returns me a html
[18:27] <amenado> orudie on a terminal type   sudo dhclient eth0  assuming your nic is eth0
[18:27] <stefan_> you can enable the internet sources manually :)
[18:27] <danand> Spunky - pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:27] <Spunky> ah ok
[18:27] <KalEl> well... my pc is only working with i386 after i installed the alpha 6 of HH
[18:28] <Maimster> I have to wait my lag out.
[18:28] <danand> spunky - is this a new install?
[18:28] <KalEl> i'll look out for an update for generic then... thanks for the information
[18:28] <Spunky> so i can hopefully just ajust the network tools list, and make it recognize my network, and it should be fixed right?
[18:28] <Spunky> and yes it is
[18:29] <Flannel> Spunky: Go to System > Admin > Software Sources, and you'll be enabling them there.  main, restricted, universe are the three main ones, multiverse is ok too.  You want gutsy, gutsy-updates, and gutsy-security, but not gutsy-proposed, or gutsy-backports
[18:29] <orudie> amenado: ok did that, what was that supposed to do ?
[18:29] <luben> hi everybody...can anyone help me with a soundblaster audigy se 7.1? (alsa don't detect it)
[18:29] <Flannel> Spunky: (and I'm sorry I can't be more specific, I don't know what the dialog looks like)
[18:30] <Spunky> Its fine flannel, I think i can take it from here hehe
[18:30] <danand> spunky - pastebin that file. you may need to edit it - no internet sources for packages can be due to a bug in the gutsy installer
[18:30] <stefan_> he can just use the graphic tool for it like flannel suggested
[18:30] <amenado> orudie-> did it assign an ip address to your interface card?  check with ifconfig
[18:31] <Spunky> that's interesting
[18:31] <Flannel> Spunky: if youre fine with editing things by hand, you can do that too.  Its faster as far as I'm concerned
[18:31] <luben> someone knows how to config a ac0106 chipset?
[18:31] <Spunky> I like editing it with my hands lol
[18:31] <NattyTux> Ok I have an issue with pidgin 2.4.0
[18:31] <thedman^> Does anyone have any experience with joysticks in gutsy?
[18:31] <amenado> Mingys-> just doubleclick on it
[18:31] <amenado> and save it
[18:31] <domino> is this the right channel to ask about spanning/raid/partitions?
[18:31] <NattyTux> Just installed it from source, and I ge this messge when trying to run it : "pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_account_get_current_error
[18:31] <NattyTux> "
[18:32] <NattyTux> now I have a solution which is runing it with 'sudo pidgin'...
[18:32] <Flannel> Spunky: deb [URL of a mirror (see !mirrors)] gutsy main restricted universe multiverse, is the line, then make two more for gutsy-updates and gutsy-security
[18:32] <Flannel> NattyTux: why are you installing pidgin from source?
[18:32] <NattyTux> but I dont want it to have root permission
[18:32] <Spunky> mk
[18:32] <NattyTux> Flannel : latest version
[18:32]  * sdsheeks prays the snow stops soon.
[18:32] <Itaku> how do i set up a round robin on ubuntu? i got a domain name already.
[18:32] <thedman^> I have three different usb joystics, all work great in jscalibrator, but in all games only the buttons work not the d-pads.  Any clues?
[18:32] <NattyTux> I dont want it to have root permissions...
[18:32] <NattyTux> so how to I solve this?
[18:33] <danand> Flannel - enabling sources through synaptics etc will work, but it can produce a messy /etc/apt/sources.list file - guess i'm a bit pedantic about things like that - with loads of entries that file can become difficult to read
[18:33] <amenado> Itaku can you clarify that please? what is your network layout, elaborate
[18:34] <polter> I wish someone would write a song about the wonderful excitement of dist-upgrading
[18:34] <stefan_> would be one agressive song, lol
[18:34] <Flannel> danand: We always try the GUI stuff first, since a lot of people are afraid of editing config files, even though yeah, manual editing is faster and cleaner
[18:34] <bruenig> polter: you should use a distro that doesn't require such absurd error prone discrete jumps
[18:34] <polter> I like dist-upgrading.. it's fun!
[18:35] <polter> :P
[18:35] <bruenig> if russian roulette is fun
[18:35] <danand> Flannel - naah - dive in at the deep end... you can learn a lot more about your system that way :)
[18:35] <polter> I very rarely have problems that aren't fixable within 5 minutes
[18:35]  * MatBoy should be banned form the xubuntu channel now... gnome is nice !
[18:35] <danand> Flannel - course you can also screw it up that way too :)
[18:36] <thedman^> I have three different usb joystics, all work great in jscalibrator, but in all games only the buttons work not the d-pads.  Any clues?
[18:36] <stefan_> NattyTux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4431162
[18:36] <tim167> I inserted my bluetooth dongle, it is listed in lsusb, but nothing happens when i turn on my phone's bluetooth, how do I connect to a bluetooth device ?
[18:36] <MatBoy> does gnome has a rightmousebutton menu as XFCE has ?
[18:36] <Flare183> MatBoy: If some needs to be banned then just ask in the channel
[18:36] <Tigerplug> Im trying to install PHPmyadmin on a new Ubuntu VPS (I have already set up vhosts for two domains), when I go to http://serverip/phpmyadmin its not there
[18:36] <Flare183> MatBoy: I think so
[18:36] <MatBoy> Flare183, hehe
[18:36] <Tigerplug> any help?
[18:36] <stefan_> MattyTux: a valid .deb package of Pidgin 2.4.0 is available via getdeb, also.. check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4431162
[18:36] <MatBoy> Flare183, why not indeed... I can;'t find it at " backgrounds"  or so
[18:37] <domino> Tigerplug u sure u've put it in the correct folder? :>
[18:37] <danand> MatBoy - no... not in the same way as xfce does.
[18:37] <Nith> Tigerplug: did you install it from the repos?
[18:37] <karter> hallo has anyone openliebereis for hardy as a .deb file?
[18:38] <xq> MatBoy: Nope, XFCE is the best for that menu style (the right click / drop down menus / kind of like CSS-y).
[18:38] <xq> MatBoy: I have never come across a program that does that in Gnome. Gnome just uses it's panel app for program management.
[18:38] <karter> have problems to compile
[18:38] <shadowh512> hello
[18:38] <polter> karter, what's the compile-errors?
[18:38] <MatBoy> danand, ok, because I have 2 screens above each other and my top screen is recognized as the top of my screen, so I miss the window bar when I place it at the top of the lower screen... it overlaps
[18:39] <rafaelscj> hi all
[18:39] <jstritar> acs
[18:39] <danand> MatBoy - gnome is a more windows centric desktop. icewm and xfce tend to be more nix centric - ie right click gives you a menu of apps to choose from. do think you can configure rclick to behave like that in gnome though
[18:39] <xq> MatBoy: Are you using an nvidia card? You can use nvidia -settings to try to fix it?
[18:39] <karter> content_handler_libxml.cpp:61: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before '*' token
[18:39] <karter> make[4]: *** [libopenpluginlib_pl_la-content_handler_libxml.lo] Fehler 1
[18:39] <MatBoy> xq, yep, nvidia, 2 of them for 4 monitors
[18:39] <woden> I have no sound...How do I setup my sound card in Ubuntu?
[18:39] <karter> whan i try to do the make..
[18:39] <ArthurArchnix> MatBoy: That sounds like fun. I'll join your quest.
[18:39] <ArthurArchnix> MatBoy: I get to be the mage.
[18:40] <danand> MatBoy - nice :)
[18:40] <Nith> Tigerplug: I did phpmyadmin last week, if you installed it from the repos, you need to move the config file from /etc/phymyadmin/apache.conf to /etc/apache2/sites-available/phpmyadmin
[18:40] <polter> karter, you got all the required packages?
[18:40] <Stwange> I'm trying to install IE6 on gutsy using IEs4linux. Has anyone else managed this? Because I'm getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/d441ea470
[18:40] <Nith> Tigerplug: Then run a2ensite phpmyadmin
[18:40] <xq> MatBoy: Yeah, Ubuntu is annoying with multiple monitors....nvidia offers a better management tool if you have it installed :) Don't use Ubuntu's management interface, it will most likely screw you.
[18:40] <MatBoy> haha, ow I have this already for 2 years... yes it works quite nice
[18:40] <polter> Stwange, use wine-doors for that
[18:40] <karter> ja is not komplaning about packeges
[18:40] <MatBoy> xq, yap
[18:40] <karter> have you iunstalled jahshaka on hary
[18:40] <karter> installed
[18:40] <xq> danand: And yep, xfce = <3
[18:40] <compu73rg33k> I have amd_64 architecture ubuntu 7.10 installation, but how can I run firefox in i386 (so I can use adobe flash)?
[18:40] <polter> jashaka? is that still being developed?
[18:41] <ngabriel> anyone every setup an ubuntu box as a wireless network bridge?
[18:41] <karter> jop
[18:41] <karter> think so
[18:41] <karter> is great
[18:41] <MatBoy> I have the idea that gnome is faster tahn XFCE these days
[18:41] <Tigerplug> Nith - thankyou... just to check its sudo apt-get install mysql-server for mysql but how do I set the root password
[18:41] <Stwange> compu73rg33k, you have to use either ndiswrapper, or (easier) installed firefox32. Google for either of those "ndiswrapper" or "installing 32 bit firefox on ubuntu 64"
[18:41] <polter> MatBoy, well if not, almost.. xfce really isn't light at all anymore
[18:42] <rafaelscj> !rm | rafaelscj
[18:42] <compu73rg33k> thanks Stwange
[18:42] <MatBoy> polter, indeed, I see the same
[18:42] <fabio> i didn't know ie4linux was a python script...
[18:42] <woden> I have no sound...How do I setup my sound card in Ubuntu?
[18:42] <danand> MatBoy - imo xfce has tried to become too much like gnome - it used to be _alot_ lighter .... and better for it
[18:43] <MatBoy> danand, indeed, that was I thought too
[18:43] <Stwange> fabio, I just followed the instructions at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu
[18:43] <fabio> to install ie6 on linux you need to grab some cab files.
[18:43] <Nith> Tigerplug: yes, although I don't remember about the root password
[18:43] <rafaelscj> !rm
[18:43] <Nith> Tigerplug: I think its blank by default
[18:43] <MatBoy> btw, nvidia settings removes my nvidia-glx-new.... I think I will run into troubles again
[18:44] <polter> installing ie for linux is easiest done through wine-doors..
[18:44] <fabio> there is something wrong in your python installation
[18:44] <polter> click the checkbox, click install.. done
[18:44] <rafaelscj> is ubotu here?
[18:44] <Tigerplug> thanks Nith
[18:44] <karter> ُفهرeُِفففeفeفق
[18:44] <luben> woden: which soundcar do you have?
[18:44] <Nith> Tigerplug: np
[18:44] <karter> sorry
[18:44] <woden> luben:  I have 2.  One is a Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer, the other is my onboard sound chip that came with my Asus P5B motherboard.
[18:45] <rafaelscj> where is ubotu?
[18:45] <caner> i have a geforce go 7200 (hp-dv6000) and using ubuntu7.10 .but the screen blinks and finally freezes when using nvidia driver. should i lower some settings??
[18:45] <fabio> !bot
[18:45] <tim167> how do i send a file over bluetooth from phone to computer ? I try to connect and it fails. can anyone help ? thanks
[18:45] <danand> woden - need a bit more info than that for people to be able to help. find out the make and model of you sound card first - type lspci in a terminal to see a list of your hardware. either that or look through the output of lshw. if your not comfortable with cli stuff look at system -> preferences -> hardware info
[18:45] <stefan_> caner: are you using the repository driver?
[18:46] <polter> tim167, I don't really know but I have heard of people using the obex-protocol for that
[18:46] <MatBoy> man, gnome is 100% faster here, no joke
[18:46] <caner> stefan_ : yes
[18:46] <bartwe> how can i set a higher refresh rate for the texmode console ?
[18:46] <MatBoy> and that on a Q6600 on 3,4 Ghz
[18:46] <stefan_> caner: have you tried to reconfigure x?
[18:46] <fabio> how about kde 4 ?
[18:46] <caner> stefan_ : i mean the one which comes with restricted drivers manager
[18:46] <woden> danand:  Does ubuntu support the Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[18:46] <stefan_> caner: yeah, that's the one I meant :)
[18:46] <tim167> polter, i used hidd --connect, and it looks like its connecting, then on the phone i can discover the computer, and do a send, but then it says it fails
[18:47] <Stwange> polter, I've installed wine-doors, but I'm not sure what you mean - do I just download the .exe straight from MS?
[18:47] <caner> stefan_ shoul i do something with nvidia-settings program?
[18:47] <polter> tim167, sorry dude, but I don't really use bluetooth
[18:47] <danand> woden - yes ... that should use the emu10k driver...
[18:48] <woden> danand:  Well it didn't get setup by the default ubuntu install....I have no sound...what do I need to do to get it to work?
[18:48] <danand> woden - in a terminal type  asoundconfig list  to see what audio cards your system can "see"
[18:48] <stefan_> caner: I've never used that program, I think you have a configuration problem.
[18:48] <woden> danand:  bash: asoundconfig: command not found
[18:48] <woden> danand:  Names of available sound cards:
[18:48] <woden> U0x46d0x8c9
[18:48] <Nith> time to do dishes -.-
[18:48] <woden> danand:  I think that's my USB webcam microphone though.
[18:48] <danand> woden - sorry - asoundconf list
[18:48] <stefan_> caner: are you using compiz?
[18:49] <caner> stefan_ i disabled most of the options in the program and favored performance for quality but it still keep blinking
[18:49] <tim167> polter, that's ok, maybe someone else here ? i followed these steps : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup, but it doesnt explain how to actually send / receive something, or what to do if bluetooth device says it cant connect...
[18:49] <woden> danand:  lspci shows my Creative Labs SB X-Fi though.
[18:49] <caner> stefan_ no i do not use compiz because compiz goes to freeze much faster
[18:49] <danand> woden - did you try asoundconf list?
[18:49] <polter> is X-fi support now? I while back it wasn't
[18:49] <polter> supported*
[18:50] <polter> man I just can't seem to spell right
[18:50] <woden> danand:  Names of available sound cards:
[18:50] <woden> U0x46d0x8c9
[18:50] <danand> woden - hmmm .... wait one
[18:50] <stefan_> caner: have you tried to reconfigure x?
[18:50] <tim167> how do I receive a file over bluetooth ? i followed this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup but it doesn't say how to send/receive thanks
[18:51] <woden> danand:  I believe that is my USB webcam...
[18:51] <danand> woden - what is the output of cat /proc/asound/modules
[18:51] <polter> wow.. "could not install: nautilus".. that'll be fun to fix
[18:51] <woden> danand:    1 snd_usb_audio
[18:51] <danand> polter - :O
[18:52] <woden> danand:  I think I have my onboard sound chip disabled in the BIOS.
[18:52] <polter> I better close Xchat.. I shouldn't have it running while updating anyway
[18:52] <woden> danand:   But my X-Fi should be available.
[18:52] <danand> woden  - is the audio card your using usb external?
[18:52] <BrunoXLambert> Hello, I have a brand new LG laptop that have some weird hardware I guess. my ethernet adapter is only reconsied by ubuntu hardy (I guess the driver is only in 2.6.24...), but I can't get X to work. I have an error: no screen found
[18:53] <DaveEngland> hello! can anybody help me, how can i make, that sound will work on ubuntu? :S
[18:53] <karter> We are pleased to announce that the jahshaka project has been liberated from its evil benefactors and is now free to get back to its roots and start building the high end visual effects tools it set out to deliver!
[18:53] <karter> For the past 2 years our project has been held up by a group of sponsors who had alternative goals when they took the project over, and these goals have resulted in very little progress and traction. As a result, instead of delivering the V3 that we set out to build, we were only just able to get Jahplayer v3 out the door.
[18:53] <sgtpepper729> if anyone can help, this is a very small issue, but when I run amarok, the notification icon does not show up on the taskbar anymore, I have the preferences in amarok set right, does anyone know why that might be happening?
[18:53] <Odd-rationale> BrunoXLambert: have you tried reconfiguring X?
[18:53] <woden> danand:  The audio card is a USB webcam.
[18:53] <joh> Hi, I'm having trouble booting the 7.10 64bit live-cd - after the kernel is loaded, the screen goes blank and doesn't receive any signal. Any way to run a text-based install?
[18:53] <ArthurArchnix> I wonder, would it be possible to put a script in .gnome2/nautilus-scripts and all it does is call the 'main menu' panel applet?
[18:53] <karter> try restart x
[18:54] <karter> run it from terminal
[18:54] <woden> danand:  Yes, external USB webcam.  It's not really an audio card.  I think Ubuntu is picking up the microphone.
[18:54] <ArthurArchnix> what is the main menu applet, where can I find that?
[18:54] <stefan_> caner: nvidia-xconfig might also be of help :)
[18:54] <danand> woden - eh??
[18:54] <BrunoXLambert> Odd-rationale, sure, made quite a lot of test (with debian, ubuntu and slackware). actually Debian add more option when doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing worked
[18:54] <danand> woden - can you pastebin the output of lspci and lsusb?
[18:54] <stefan_> joh: text based install can be done with the alternate install cd
[18:54] <woden> danand: sure 1 sec
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> BrunoXLambert: hmm. sounds like something's not right with your srceen section of your xorg file?
[18:54] <caner> stefan_ the computer just froze i had to reboot. could you please help me to reconfigure x
[18:55] <danand> woden - k
[18:55] <joh> stefan_: But not from the normal CD?
[18:55] <stefan_> joh: not that I know about
[18:55] <joh> stefan_: Ok thanks
[18:55] <xyblor> how do I install grub onto a drive without disturbing the /boot directory of that drive?
[18:55] <woden> danand:  here is lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58906/
[18:55] <inSanity_> hi ppl
[18:55] <stefan_> caner: nvidia-xconfig can generate an xorg.conf file for you
[18:56] <Bradley_> i have now settled on Virtual Box runnig Ubunto from windows
[18:56] <danand> woden - k - taking a look ....
[18:56] <caner> stefan_ i did is that all?
[18:56] <BrunoXLambert> Odd-rationale, yeah, I jsut don't know what to throw in there. It's a LG-R405 laptop with a 14.1'' display
[18:56] <woden> danand:  lsusb  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58907/
[18:56] <Bradley_> :)
[18:56] <caner> stefan_ it keeps blinking :::(
[18:56] <inSanity_> I can't create files in a davfs mounted directory, anyone a clue ( I CAN make folders though )
[18:56] <stefan_> caner: you let that tool create a new xorg.conf file for you?
[18:56] <xyblor> I just need to install grub to the boot sector of a drive
[18:56] <BrunoXLambert> Odd-rationale, and google doesn't know what to do!!! hehe
[18:56] <sdrr> is here anyone running hardy already ?
[18:56] <inSanity_> sdrr : yes I'm
[18:57] <inSanity_> hardy runs ok! :)
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> BrunoXLambert: I really don't know, then. Sorry :(
[18:57] <ahmedh724> please i need help
[18:57] <inSanity_> we al do ;)
[18:57] <ahmedh724> i have 256 ram
[18:57] <caner> stefan_ it says it made a backup. and new x configuration file written to ...
[18:57] <sdrr> inSanity_: sounds good, do you know by accident if xen 3.2 is available for hardy?
[18:57] <ahmedh724> i can't run the live cd
[18:57] <joh> stefan_: Seems to work with the nosplash option
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> ahmedh724: Have you tried the alt cd ?
[18:57] <stefan_> caner: you have to restart your X session then
[18:57] <ahmedh724> no
[18:57] <BrunoXLambert> Odd-rationale, yeah it's okay, i guess i shouldn't have bought brand new hardware
[18:57] <domino> anyone, this is an easy question, i'm new to unix :>, how do i - from terminal - set up partitions? im looking to set up 5 partitions, one on each harddrive, then put them together as one in LVM/ combine as raid
[18:57] <stefan_> caner: cane be done by rebooting or by doing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[18:57] <Bradley_> ahmedh724: did you burn it from the ISO or just unpack it and then burn that
[18:58] <stefan_> joh: never knew that, thought that only removed the splash
[18:58] <caner> stefan_ ok let met try
[18:58] <ahmedh724> the live cd opens busybox initramfs and   things i don't understand
[18:58] <ahmedh724> i think it is something like command prompt in windows
[18:58] <joh> stefan_: Yeah, and without 'quiet' you can see that it actually boots :P;
[18:58] <acee1234> how do you change conky themes?
[18:58] <inSanity_> sdrr: yes it is
[18:58] <ahmedh724> i burnt it from the iso
[18:58] <stefan_> joh: ^_^ good luck then
[18:58] <inSanity_> sdrr: installing it now :)
[18:58] <Bradley_> ahmedh724: go to this room and ill help #livecd
[18:58] <joh> stefan_: Thanks :-)
[18:59] <ahmedh724> ok thanks
[18:59] <domino> anyone?
[18:59] <alex___> hi guys. is there a way to name the home partition in ubuntu so that in os x it's not called "UNTITLED"?
[18:59] <sdrr> inSanity_: ok ic, my god I'm download the hardy iso and it takes 14 hrs ,.. :(
[18:59] <inSanity_> sdrr: I upgrade from 7.10
[18:59] <inSanity_> *upgraded
[18:59] <tim167> i try gnome-obex.send and it asks me to select bluetooth device but none is listed
[18:59] <sdrr> inSanity_: aha
[18:59] <woden> danand:  got anything?
[18:59] <sdrr> inSanity_: ok thanks for the tip
[18:59] <brobostigon> does the network/smb printer hosted by a win2000 machine, i am trying to print too, need to be in the same domain/workgroup as me, or doesnt it matter??
[18:59] <inSanity_> sdrr: update-manager -d
[19:00] <inSanity_> should able to do it
[19:00] <woden> How do I get my Creative Labs SB X-Fi to work in Ubuntu?
[19:00] <domino> alex___ maybe u can help me out? :>
[19:00] <ubotu> Spunky: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:00] <alex___> domino, what's your question?
[19:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:01] <ArthurArchnix> how do I run an applet from the terminal? Do I have to use the panel, or can I call it from the CL?
[19:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:01] <inSanity_> DAVFS2 , anyone familiar with that?
[19:01] <domino> how to set up a partition from terminal/console/"cmdpromt"
[19:01] <kenisai> can anyone help me with running ubuntu?
[19:01] <nikitis> Question i'm having an issue.  I do not have a visual effects option in preferences.  Compiz is enabled and 3dfx are working but i wish to configure them.  What package do i need installed to get this option?
[19:01] <xyblor> is there a gui for grub?
[19:01] <alex___> domino, i use gparted.... never tried from terminal
[19:01] <stefan_> nikitis: are you using ubuntu?
[19:02] <nikitis> stefan_, yes, I am
[19:02] <danand> woden - think your card should be supported - theres even a 64bit driver available on creatives site which is unusual... are you using 64bit?
[19:02] <stefan_> nikitis: compiz-settings-manager
[19:02] <woden> danand: yes
[19:02] <nikitis> stefan_, says couldn't find compiz-settings-manager
[19:02] <caner> stefan_ : it keeps freezing. i opened two web pages with flash apps and it started blinking and froze
[19:02] <crdlb> !ccsm | nikitis
[19:02] <ubotu> nikitis: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[19:02] <domino> i dont run ubuntu with GUI alex___, but ill try gparted. maybe it'll run
[19:02] <crdlb> stefan_: not quite right :)
[19:03] <stefan_> sorry, compizconfig-settings-manager :) installable via apt
[19:03] <kenisai> I just installed ubuntu and I dint install any extra components when asked, Now i dont have an interface only a command interface... what should i do? im new to ubuntu and i need help
[19:03] <stefan_> yay bot ^^
[19:03] <dallas> for some reason my sound only works every once and a while and to get it back i have to restart but is there a process i can kill and then just restart again so i dont have to do a complete reboot?
[19:03] <stefan_> crdlb: I noticed too late, thanks :)
[19:03] <alex___> domino, ah. i've never tried that... it should be doable from command line with gparted tho
[19:03] <danand> woden - can you just check to see if you have the emu10k driver in your modules list first ... do lsmod | grep emu10k and see if it shows up
[19:03] <acee1234> how do i change conky themes?
[19:04] <nikitis> stefan_, crdlb, Thanks
[19:04] <nikitis> crdlb, thanks
[19:04] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i'm trying to use a download accellerator, i'm downloading some big files from a newsgroup, but DownThemAll! plugin for firefox, won't increase the chunks it's downling in, so i'm stuck at 40kb/s , when i should be up at 160 at least
[19:04] <kenisai> I just installed ubuntu and I dint install any extra components when asked, Now i dont have an interface only a command interface... what should i do? im new to ubuntu and i need help
[19:04] <NET||abuse> Is there a download accellerator that'll download in multiple chunks to speed up per connection limited speeds and allow me to enter a user/pass for a download, as in the newsgroup login.
[19:04] <kenisai> is there anyway i can reinstall ubuntu using a command?
[19:05] <dallas> did you not have a live cd kenisai?
[19:05] <Jowi> kenisai, you installed the server version?
[19:05] <stefan_> caner: hm, have you tried to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[19:05] <ion> sorry my silly question but how shall install a program that is in tar.gz format or whatever ?
[19:05] <dallas> for some reason my sound only works every once and a while and to get it back i have to restart but is there a process i can kill and then just restart again so i dont have to do a complete reboot?
[19:05] <kenisai> i installed using the one with no cd or anything
[19:05] <stefan_> caner: note that this will require you to input some advanced information :) but it might help you out here
[19:06] <alanbshepard70> How can I force a fullscreen application to run on a second monitor with a dual screen setup?
[19:06] <ion> sorry guys anybody can help me ?
[19:06] <wizo> hey, hwo can i check that i'm using dhcp
[19:06] <dallas> do you have an internet connection wizo?
[19:06] <wizo> err nope
[19:06] <dani_> Shalom!
[19:06] <Bradley_> ion: with what
[19:06] <danand> woden - you get anything from that?
[19:06] <stefan_> ion: you've probably downloaded a source package :)
[19:07] <IndyGunFreak> alanbshepard70: i wish i knew the answer to that as well.
[19:07] <Bradley_> !ion | ettiuqutte
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <dallas> do you have wireless or wired connection?
[19:07] <acee1234> if no one knows how to change conky who or where might i ask
[19:07] <stefan_> ion: have you tried looking for the program in the repositories?
[19:07] <ion> stefan_: yeah but what I've to do ?
[19:07] <Bradley_> ion: with what
[19:07] <wizo> dallas, im running it on vmware server, and i cant get it to have internet access, so im trying to figure out what's wrong
[19:07] <dallas> google acee1234
[19:07] <woden> I enabled my onboard sound card and now Ubuntu can see it, but I still can't hear any sounds.  can anyone help please?
[19:07] <Bradley_> woden: have you run the update manger
[19:07] <rsk> woden: chek alsamixer if it's muted
[19:07] <acee1234> dallas: tried it
[19:08] <prince_jammys> ion: what is the name of the program?
[19:08] <PriitM_> I got trouble with my WiFi connection going idle and I can't get it 'out' of there, could please anyone tell me which actions should I take? Picture of iwconfig, iwlist scan, init/networking restart and such: http://priitm.planet.ee/1/prob.png
[19:08] <woden> Bradley:  the update manager?  nope.
[19:08] <alanbshepard70> IndyGunFreak: I want to run fceu fullscreen on my TV, I hope I find an answer :-\
[19:08] <stefan_> ion: the program might be available from the ubuntu repositories... use the package manager to see if it's available :)
[19:08] <ion> Bradley: I would like to know how shall I install a program that is in taz.gz
[19:08] <woden> rsk: alsamixer looks confusing...how do I tell if it's muted there?  My gnome sound applet doesn't say it's muted.
[19:08] <ion> I've got a few of them here...
[19:08] <wizo> dallas, should be on a ethernet if it's running in vmware i think
[19:08] <danand> woden - did you check the output of lsmod | grep emu10k ??
[19:08] <ompaul> ion, what program are they?
[19:09] <woden> danand:  that output is null
[19:09] <kenisai> i installed ubuntu but i dint install a desktop environment
[19:09] <kenisai> is it possible to reinstall?
[19:09] <alanbshepard70> ion: tar -xzvf /package.tar.gz, then cd /packagedir then ./configure then ./make then ./make install
[19:09] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ??
[19:09] <rsk> woden: how is it confusing? use m to mute and unmute
[19:09] <Linux_Fresher> is it REALLY true that viruses are there for LINUX ?
[19:09] <kenisai> or install a desktop environment?
[19:09] <danand> woden - k, just to check again your running a 64 bit system ?
[19:09] <IndyGunFreak> amenado: maybe a few other subtle differences, but more or less, yes
[19:09] <Linux_Fresher> i thought linux was like virus proof thing =(
[19:10] <woden> rsk: no they are not muted.
[19:10] <ompaul> !virus | Linux_Fresher
[19:10] <ubotu> Linux_Fresher: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:10] <PriitM_> Linux_Fresher, there are very few, like 40 perhaps, but they aren't spreaded much.
[19:10] <woden> danand: yes 64 bit I believe.  Linux valhalla 2.6.24-11-generic #1 SMP Fri Feb 29 21:26:31 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:10] <dallas> how can you kill the sound process?
[19:10] <RabidWeezle> is there a bash command similar to dos'es "pause"
[19:10] <ion> hold on guys let my try some stuff that some of you guys told me...
[19:10] <IndyGunFreak> Linux_Fresher: viruses are just malicious code.., Linux is not immune to malicious code, but if you practice proper security, damage will be severely limited..
[19:10] <qense> it is very hard to get your pc infected with a virus when running linux
[19:10] <RabidWeezle> as in a command that says "Please press any key to continue"
[19:11] <prince_jammys> ion why don't you tell us the program names? maybe packages are available
[19:11] <qense> you have to use old code or be in root all time
[19:11] <RabidWeezle> I'm trying to make a script for it
[19:11] <kenisai> is it possible to reintall ubuntu or download a a desktop environment? cuz i dint install one.... now i have a black screen with just text on it/////
[19:11] <kenisai> can anyone help please?
[19:11] <ion> and many thanks for you guys
[19:11] <danand> woden - ok ... see if you get any output from modprobe -l | grep emu10k
[19:11] <qense> kenisai: type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:11] <prince_jammys> kenisai: you can install a desktop environment, and X if you don't have it
[19:11] <kenisai> ok thanks!!
[19:11] <Pici> kenisai: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[19:11] <kenisai> ill try
[19:11] <Linux_Fresher> IndyGunFreak  .. ok i just googled .. there are 874 known viruses/worms for linux .. as u say, "practice proper security" , what it means in terms of linux ? [other than not logging in as root?]
[19:11] <woden> danand: yes but it's too much to paste here want me to put it on pastebin?
[19:11] <bluebanana> how do i add a "sudo command" every time I start-up the computer (that is, when a new session starts) and have it run automatically?
[19:12] <danand> woden - k
[19:12] <dallas> how do you check and see what all services are running?
[19:12] <IndyGunFreak> Linux_Fresher: thats the most major thing right there, not logging in as root.
[19:12] <woden> danand:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58908/
[19:12] <danand> woden - k ... just lookin...
[19:12] <caner> stefan_ i did it but a little randomly. and it made no help still slows down and freezes
[19:12] <Linux_Fresher> IndyGunFreak  so thats all that needs to be done ?  setup as root and never go again there as root ? [my 1st day of linux]
[19:12] <ion> prince_jammys: because I don't know :( how to install using my terminal and I wanna know that as well...I few stupid becauce I can't do it...as you guys can see I'm  newuser...so I came from windows...
[19:12] <IndyGunFreak> Linux_Fresher: and still most linux viruses, dont' effect the linux box, they are made to attack vulnerable linux servers, which then exploit windows machines(most of the time)
[19:12] <stefan_> caner: you restarted after changing the xorg.conf file?
[19:12] <caner> stefan_ yes
[19:13] <acee1234> im cant seem to get the file browser seach fuction to work properly
[19:13] <IndyGunFreak> Linux_Fresher: not really *never go there again*, but don't do every day tasks from root... with ubuntu, you don't do that anyways
[19:13] <danand> woden - did you install from the standard 7.10 cd?
[19:13] <ion> j
[19:13] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | Linux_Fresher
[19:13] <prince_jammys> ion: the names of the programs that you downloaded are ...
[19:13] <ubotu> Linux_Fresher: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:13] <caner> stefan_ restarted gnome with ctrl+alt+backspce
[19:13] <woden> danand:  yes I think so
[19:13] <amews_aj> Hi, is it correct that kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE ??
[19:13] <usse1> amews_aj: pretty much yes
[19:13] <stefan_> caner: try a system reboot :)
[19:14] <Linux_Fresher> IndyGunFreak would it be just matter of time ? when [if] world shifts to linux, all people writing viruses for windows will start coding viruses for linux? =/
[19:14] <woden> danand:  No wait I installed from the standard 8.06 I think
[19:14] <Bradley_> is there any way to reset your display settings from the terminal
[19:14] <amews_aj> usse1: Are they both stable, and can you install the same on it ?
[19:14] <qense> the most virusses/exlpoits for Linux I know are in closed source
[19:14] <danand> woden - in that case, i think your running a 32 bit system, even though your hardware is 64bit ... this is no bad thing though....
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> Linux_Fresher: some say yes.. but i've yet to get anything in 2yrs
[19:14] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, no it would not be and this is not a discussion channel you can join #ubuntu-offtopic this is strictly for support issues not discussion
[19:14] <usse1> amews_aj: yes all the same software goes for both
[19:14] <qense> it's very hard to find bugs there if you're not a developer and there are less people who can contribute to the coee
[19:14] <inSanity_> for those of you who want to use davfs with ubuntu
[19:14] <inSanity_> http://www.vtek.nl/howto-setup-ubuntu-with-davfs_software_189.html
[19:14] <amews_aj> usse1: And ubuntu isn
[19:14] <amews_aj> isn't more stable than kubuntu ?
[19:14] <danand> woden - try typing sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[19:14] <Bradley_> Is there anyway to reset your resoultion from the terminal???
[19:14] <woden> danand:  I am?  I wanted to run 64 bit system....
[19:15] <woden> danand:  nothing comes up with that command
[19:15] <Linux_Fresher> qense  .. erm .. ok .. i know open source where the code is given to people , closed source is that they dont code to people .. how does that matter ? i am confused
[19:15] <chris1> i did something stupid, i hit a few buttons before reading what they do.. ctrl+alt+f1 creates a ttyl but i did not read how to undo it.. help?
[19:15] <ion> prince_jammys:skype, amsn..azureus and so on..
[19:15] <lordleemo> IndyGunFreak: were did you get 874 from
[19:15] <macncheez3000> one could make the argument that linux bases systems are harder to write viruses for
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> lordleemo: i didn't, he spewed that number..lol, it sounded like crap to me, but i let it go
[19:15] <danand> woden - ok ... thats ok.... type lsmod | grep emu10k again and see if you get any output
[19:15] <qense> Linux_Fresher: open source means more people who can look at the code, and can find bugs
[19:16] <macncheez3000> leading to a reduction in script kiddies
[19:16] <usse1> amews_aj: I found kubuntu to be less stable/usable than ubuntu
[19:16] <anniku989> prince_jammys: hi
[19:16] <prince_jammys> !info amsn | ion
[19:16] <Linux_Fresher> lordleemo ..  i got it from wikipedia
[19:16] <amews_aj> k
[19:16] <ubotu> ion: amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[19:16] <qense> and there a lot of those people will write often a patch
[19:16] <Linux_Fresher> lordleemo .. brb getting the link for u
[19:16] <macncheez3000> ussel: as did i
[19:16] <lordleemo> IndyGunFreak: wikpedia ha ha ha typical eh
[19:16] <woden> danand:  yes there is output
[19:16] <Bradley_> HEllo, is there any way to reset your resoultion from the terminal
[19:16] <prince_jammys> ion these packages are available through repositories, you don't need to deal with tar.gz
[19:16] <Linux_Fresher> soz its 863
[19:17] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, you are a victim of Fear Uncertainty and Doubt please drop the subject join #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to chat
[19:17] <woden> danand:  here is output of that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58910/
[19:17] <prince_jammys> ion: except maybe skype
[19:17] <qense> Bradley_: you can edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf manually
[19:17] <bluebanana> How do i add a sudo command into my session?
[19:17] <qense> or type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select other resolutions
[19:17] <danand> woden - ok ... that means that modules been inserted into the running kernel ... that output looks good
[19:17] <Bradley_> my resoultion is too high
[19:17] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul .. soz .. i will just give him the weblink and go to that channel
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   just take generic defaults, until your back toa  GUI..
[19:17] <Bradley_> and i cant see anything
[19:17] <Linux_Fresher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses    .. thats where it says 863
[19:17] <woden> danand:  great.  So what's the next step?
[19:17] <prince_jammys> ion: have you installed them already? ie did you do the commmands the someone posted to you above?
[19:18] <Xorothal> http://www.google.com
[19:18] <prince_jammys> anniku989: hi
[19:18] <danand> woden - now type sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart ***Note ... no implied warranties ... :) ****
[19:18] <caner> stefan_ it got worse firefox slows down the system incredibly
[19:18] <ion> prince_jammys: not yeat, I gonna do right now..
[19:18] <prince_jammys> ion don't
[19:18] <ion> prince_jammys: no
[19:18] <woden> danand:  my computer sparked and smoke came out
[19:19] <woden> danand:  just kidding.  It says Loading additoinal hardware drivers [OK]
[19:19] <prince_jammys> ion type this in a terminal::  sudo apt-get install amsn azureus
[19:19] <caner> stefan_ it blinks especially when scrolling thruogh a page
[19:19] <rencore_> any ideas as to why when i go to another tty it just flashes _ and doesnt load?
[19:19] <fismoll8> hi everyone--I am backing up my hard drive, and have heard that all I really need to back up are my /etc and /home folders. But don't I also need to back up /usr? It seems vital
[19:19] <stefan_> caner: I've been checking google, it seems to be a problem with the current driver / your card
[19:19] <prince_jammys> ion: that will automatically download and install those packages
[19:19] <Linux_Fresher> Also, i tried to install Ubuntu , but it tried to over write all the USED portion of hard drive .. is it a bug in installation program ?
[19:19] <stefan_> no bug: you can choose the partitioning type at installation time
[19:19] <danand> woden - that sounds promising ... now type sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart .... btw you  just gave me a heart attack :)
[19:20] <caner> stefan_ do you think i should keep with the generic driver? or could it have a solution?
[19:20] <ion> prince_jammys: yeah is true and whe I have as a binary that the other issue
[19:20] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, no it is your call if that is what you want to do now I have said several times you are offtopic this is chatter not direct support issues
[19:20] <woden> danand:  last command went through just fine.
[19:20] <prince_jammys> ion: i don't understand the question. what is it?
[19:20] <stefan_> caner: for now, stepping down to the generic driver and waiting for a driver update seem the best approach :)
[19:21] <tim167> I try to send a file from my phone over bluetooth to my computer, it sees my computer, it tries to connect, then fails. any ideas ?
[19:21] <Linux_Fresher> stefan_  .. it gave me an option to choose partitioning type .. but it kept changing the space needed back to exactly the USED value of the hard drive
[19:21] <bluebanana> what's the terminal command for "appearance preferences"?
[19:21] <danand> woden - ok ... just a quick check ... type asoundconf list again and see what you get
[19:21] <stefan_> caner: also, create a forum topic and inclue your xorg.conf file :)
[19:21] <ahmedh724> please how can i install ubuntu from the live cd although i have only 256 mb ram the cd opens busybox initramfs screen.any suggestions?
 thank you. a last question. how can i know when the next driver will be released?
[19:21] <ion> prince_jammys:right, when I download a binary and I have to install it...that's what I mean.
[19:21] <stefan_> Linux_Fresher: O_o never had that problem
[19:21] <woden> danand:  output of asoundconf list  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58911/
[19:21] <stefan_> caner: the update manager will blink :)
[19:22] <ompaul> !dualboot > Linux_Fresher (read the message from the bot you are not reading that screen correctly)
[19:22] <woden> danand:  ignore prior.  here is output.  Intel
[19:22] <woden> U0x46d0x8c9
[19:22] <caner> stefan_ thanks for help
[19:22] <amenado> ahmedh724-> do you currently have linux already or ubuntu would be your first?
[19:22] <stefan_> caner: also, a forum topic might lead to a better sollution, compiling the latest driver by yourself might solve the problem
[19:22] <stefan_> caner: as the repository driver you used isn't the latest available :)
[19:22] <ahmedh724> i am new to linux but now i am running pclinuxos
[19:22] <danand> woden - and the output of cat /proc/asound/modules ?
[19:23] <stefan_> caner: that, however, is a more difficult process you will probably be better helped with via the forums :)
[19:23] <magic> or mount
[19:23] <ahmedh724> but installing software is awful on it so i would like to try ubuntu as it has build essential
[19:23] <woden> danand:
[19:23] <woden>    0 snd_hda_intel
[19:23] <woden>  1 snd_usb_audio
[19:23] <ompaul> ahmedh724, then do it
[19:23] <amenado> ahmedh724-> would you like to experiment with me, using the liveCD iso from a hard disk?
 allright i will try to read about them
[19:23] <prince_jammys> ion: ok look, go to the menu and go to add/remove
[19:23] <stefan_> caner: I'll do some more research and reply to your topic if I find something :)
[19:23] <magic> how to extract or mount daa file in ubuntu amd64
[19:23] <magic> acetoneiso aint working
[19:24] <Linux_Fresher> stefan_ .. details:  80 GB HD sata --> 13.5 GB free --> contains windows XP and other programs in used space [total HD is NTFS formatted]--> wanted to give 5 GB to Ubuntu --> started installation program
[19:24] <prince_jammys> ion: and search for the packages you want (amsn, azureus, and so on) -- install them from there. you DON'T need to download them
[19:24] <ahmedh724> now therei sno problem with the cd i got the cd  from ubuntu itself i recieved it post
[19:24] <danand> woden - do you have an on board sound card?
[19:24] <Linux_Fresher> stefan_  Now, on step 4 of installation it gives 3 options .. i chose "manual"
[19:24] <rencore_> any ideas as to why when i go to another tty it just flashes _ and doesnt load?
[19:25] <amenado> ahmedh724-> am offering you a chance to experiment with livecd iso on your hard disk
[19:25] <stefan_> Linux_Fresher: hm hm :)
[19:25] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, and where did you want to install it - of course it wants some disk space
[19:25] <magic> any alive???
[19:25] <ion> prince_jammys:but sometimes times I need to download and instal so when I face up that situation what can I do then ?
[19:25] <ahmedh724> how i have also the iso on windows and i burnt it so what i can do
[19:25] <woden> danand:  Yes, onboard sound chip.
[19:25] <woden> danand:  that's the  0 snd_hda_intel
[19:25] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul .. same HD , it has 13.5 gb free .. wanted to make a partition of 5 GB and install ubuntu on it
[19:25] <amenado> ahmedh724-> are you paying attention to what i have been telling you yet?
[19:26] <ion> prince_jammys:I have to be a full user now I half user if you know what I mean...
[19:26] <DonkeyKong101> any1 know y my system sounds dont work......i cant handle the silence.....
[19:26] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, it has to "push the formatted space around" so as to work
[19:26] <ahmedh724> no please what do you mean by expirement by iso live cd
[19:26] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher,read that url the bot sent you
[19:26] <eddyMul> Anybody got Hardy Alpha 5 ISOs booting under Gutsy's KVM?
[19:26] <prince_jammys> ion then you follow the directions from the website you got them from, or search in the ubuntu forums, or come here.  But of the three packages you mentioned, two are available without having to compile them or download them from the web
[19:26] <ion> prince_jammys: like I've to know how do deal with situations..
[19:26] <danand> woden - hmmm... yeah .... can you try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio to see if you can hear anything. type control+C to stop that if you do
[19:27] <amenado> ahmedh724-> well you make a copy of that iso to your hard disk and boot it from a hard disk..good enuff?
[19:27] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul .. the issue that happens is that when i choose manual, it asked me how much space i want to give for ubuntu .. so i chose 5120 MB (5 x 1024)..it accepts manual typing there
[19:27] <woden> danand:  I hear nothing
[19:27] <ion> prince_jammys: alright but thanks anyway...
[19:27] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, yeap well here is a clue - read the url it tells you all about that much better than IRC ever will
[19:27] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul  but when i go to the next field of "type of format" [like fat 32, ext3 etc] , the first field reverts back to 64700 which is EXACTLY the used space on the HD
[19:27] <amenado> ahmedh724-> and learn a few stuff along the way too
[19:27] <ahmedh724> so i have to boot the iso image from the hard disk before entering windows or pclinux
[19:27] <danand> woden - :( ... ok type alsamixer in a terminal .. can you tell me the card and chipset that it says its using
[19:27] <prince_jammys> ion: what to do depends on whether they are debian packages (.deb) or software you have to compile. the thing i'm telling you is get as much as you can from the repositories.  if you don't see it in add/remove, go to your menu and look in "synaptic"
[19:28] <magic> how to extract or mount daa file in ubuntu amd64
[19:28] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, are you going to read the URL the bot has sent you?
[19:28] <amenado> ahmedh724-> forget it, you dont seem to show interest
[19:28] <ahmedh724> but please how can i boot from an iso image
[19:28] <danand> woden - that will be output at the top left of the screen
[19:28] <prince_jammys> ion: this makes sure you get updates in the future, and that you can uninstall with no problem
[19:28] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul i am searching the chat, but there is no url that the bot sends
[19:28] <ArthurArchnix> daa is proprietary. You need magic iso I think magic
[19:28] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul could u please pm it to me ?
[19:28] <NW2190> Hey, where does Ubuntu get the name of the mounted devices under Places?
[19:28] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, the bot did
[19:28] <woden> danand:  Card is HDA Intel, Chip is Analog Devices AD1988B
[19:29] <ion> prince_jammys: sure...I will do it.
[19:29] <magic> magic iso?
[19:29] <amortvigil> What is THE ubuntu laptop or pc?
[19:29] <NW2190> And how can I change the names?
[19:29] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul nope, no pm or no url here on chat screen
[19:29] <amenado> ahmedh724-> im going to ask you once more, would you like to work with me to get a working ubuntu system booted from a livecd copied on your hd?
[19:29] <ion> prince_jammys: thanks for your help.
[19:29] <ArthurArchnix> macic sorry, poweriso.  http://filext.com/file-extension/DAA
[19:29] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, guess this is not for you if you can't find a pm from the bot then
[19:29] <ahmedh724> yes i am ready now i am on pclinuxos and i have the iso image
[19:30] <ahmedh724> then what?
[19:30] <prince_jammys> ion no problem. you'll find that most of what you want (very few exceptions) is already available through repositories
[19:30] <danand> woden - at the mo the system is using your onboard sound card ... we'll sort that out hopefully ... just need to try and get your SB card identified by the system
[19:30] <shawn_selig29> hi guys
[19:30] <shawn_selig29> i got a quick question
[19:30] <amenado> ahmedh724-> okay you have a pclinuxos right? does it uses  /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?
[19:30] <magic> ArthurArchnix: thx :)
[19:30] <stefan_> Lipoweriso can open .daa files and is available for linux :)
[19:30] <ahmedh724> yes
[19:30] <danand> woden - wait one....
[19:30] <stefan_> *poweriso
[19:30] <woden> danand: alrighty
[19:30] <shawn_selig29> u now in windows how you can press the back button while browsing the net to go back a page.......well how can i set this up for linux?
[19:30] <amenado> ahmedh724-> ls -la /boot/grub/menu.lst  on a terminal
[19:31] <prince_jammys> ion: skype should have directions at their website
[19:31] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul .. erm .. i can see the url here which ArthurArchnix typed .. but no msg from bot .. may be bot hasnt identified itself to nickserv [which is VERY unlikely]
[19:31] <amenado> ahmedh724-> also you need to respond to me with my nick in the front okay? or else i will miss what your responses are
[19:31] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, ehh maybe the bot is lagging a little bit lets sit back and wait a moment
[19:32] <ahmedh724> ok i did it
[19:32] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul its more than 30 secs by now .. it shoulda come
[19:32] <amenado> !who | ahmedh724
[19:32] <ahmedh724> what?
[19:32] <amenado> yep bot is kaput, its not responding
[19:32] <ion> prince_jammys: cool.
[19:32] <Azodon> sometimes i find the applications in the repos are older then current versions and seem outdated.  Programs that link to server and require an same client version for all users
[19:32] <Y-Town> Question:  Everytime I start up my computer or reboot it looses my wireless keyboard and mouse which is on a bluetooth usb stick (logitech MX5000).  Anyone know how to fix this from happening?
[19:33] <amenado> ahmed do you notice i have your nick in front all the time? do the same when you answer back to me okay?
[19:33] <magic> ArthurArchnix:  power iso its made for Windows98/Me, Windows2000/XP/2003/Vista operating system or above.
[19:33] <ahmedh724> i opened the konsole and typed ls -la,,,,,,,,,,,,
[19:33] <ArthurArchnix> magic Yup.
[19:33] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, you have a point there --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[19:33] <stefan_> magic: there's a linux version :)
[19:33] <magic> i need for ubuntu
[19:33] <amenado> ahmed if you dont do this, i will not be able to help you..
[19:33] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul tx
[19:33] <ion> prince_jammys: as you said I'll have a look I should have done more research before come around and ask you guys.
[19:33] <ion> prince_jammys: as I said I mean.
[19:33] <afabian> Hi.  I'm trying to reinstall grub in my MBR but I can't figure out how to do it.  Can anyone help out?  It's a serial ATA drive.  I can mount the root, say, with mount /dev/sda8 /mnt, but once I chroot, the "sda" isn't a valid block device anymore and I can't grub-install.  If I don't chroot, and try 'find /boot/grub/stage1', it always says 'file not found.'
[19:33] <magic> on amd64
[19:33] <ahmedh724> i typed in the konsole what you told me
[19:33] <prince_jammys> ion: no, it's good because i was able to stop you :)
[19:34] <stefan_> magic: http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm scroll down for the linux version :)
[19:34] <amenado> ahmed do you notice i have your nick in front all the time? do the same when you answer back to me okay?
[19:34] <ahmedh724> i got rw-r r root root march.........grub/menu.lst
[19:34] <v3ctor> amenado: if he won't listen, then don't bother
[19:34] <amenado> ahmed724 do you notice i have your nick in front all the time? do the same when you answer back to me okay?
[19:34] <danand> woden - can you see what the output of: aplay -l is for me?
[19:34] <ion> prince_jammys: :)
[19:34] <ahmedh724> ok
[19:34] <magic> stefan_:  thnx
[19:34] <prince_jammys> ion: if you ever have doubts, you can also google "ubuntu gutsy howto install the_name_of_your_software"  (don't forget the "ubuntu" and "gutsy" ) and you will usually get links to the ubuntu forums
[19:34] <ahmedh724> amenado:i typed in the konsole
[19:34] <woden> danand:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58912/
[19:35] <stefan_> magic: np =)
[19:35] <amenado> ahmedh724-> okay thats more better, i can read your answer
[19:35] <brobostigon> does the network/smb printer(win 2000 server) i am trying to print too, need to be in the same domain/workgroup as me, or doesnt it matter??
[19:35] <ArthurArchnix> stefan_: Wow... thanks also.
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> ahmedh724: Hint. You can use <TAB> to autocomplete names e.g. ame<TAB>
[19:35] <ArthurArchnix> stefan_: I'd given up.. umm.... acquiring daa files.
[19:35] <amenado> ahmedh724-> how many hard disk do you have?
[19:35] <ion> prince_jammys: that's good.:)
[19:35] <ivan_> hi, i have problems wiht my broadcom WiFi in ubuntu, is there any new kernel release that fixes this issue, the issu is that i get packetlosts, and signal level drops at random points
[19:36] <ahmedh724> amenado: i have one 160 gigs
[19:36] <ahmedh724> amenado: partitioned two for windows and the linux drives for pclinux
[19:36] <amenado> ahmedh724-> how many partitions do you have? and do you have room for ubuntu?
[19:36] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to pyneighborhood please
[19:36] <woden> danand: should I be using ALSA or OSS?
[19:36] <danand> woden - k .. ALSA
[19:36] <ahmedh724> amenado: what is room please?
[19:36] <Falstius> how do I change where the temporary file image is created for the gnome cd/dvd creator?  Or set any of the preferences for it?
[19:37] <danand> woden - ALSA can support OSS stuff too...
[19:37] <amenado> ahmedh724-> space is same as room, what language do you speak ?
[19:37] <DIL> lol
[19:37] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to pyneighborhood please
[19:37] <woden> danand:  alrighty.  I went to System > Preferences > Sound, and tried the "Test" button for playback, and nothing comes out.
[19:37] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul can i pm you plz ?
[19:37] <ahmedh724> i am arabic but i know english
[19:38] <amenado> ahmedh724-> i should charge you triple for making my gasoline very expensive.. :P
[19:38] <woden> danand:  hey, I have an admission to make.
[19:38] <woden> danand:  please don't slap me upside the head with a fish...
[19:38] <DIL> 3x0=0
[19:38] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, please do it in channel in case I give wrong information so someone can pull me up
[19:38] <danand> woden - what ??? - speakers not turned on??
[19:38] <amenado> ahmedh724-> anyhow, how big are the partitions?  what sizes?
[19:38] <ahmedh724> ok then i can delete pclinux and install ubuntu in that space
[19:38] <woden> danand:  I had my speaker plugged into the Creative Labs X-Fi, not the onboard sound card *DOH*
[19:39] <woden> danand:  sorry to run you around like that...
[19:39] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to pyneighborhood please
[19:39] <Pirate_Hunter> hello all
[19:39] <yeruti> how can i test if my wireless card is connecting to my wireless net?
[19:39] <orudie> how can i upload a file using putty to my linux box ?
[19:39] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul this is little complicated Q, i will try to simplify it to the best of my abilities.
[19:39] <danand> woden - np ... i would have thought you wanted to run your sound with that card any way....
[19:39] <v3ctor> orudie: you would be better off using winscp for that
[19:39] <DJDarkstar> hi
[19:39] <amenado> ahmedh724-> you dont pay attention well, i asked you several times to put the nickname in from and you have not done so,
[19:39] <ahmedh724> one  for windows and one 100 ntfs for windows files and the rest are partitioned automaticly by pclinux installer into 2 drive 8 and 11 and the swap
[19:39] <Azodon> yeruti : try to access your router , see what the net manager syas
[19:39] <drewby> I use gnome.  what's a good front-end for subversion?
[19:40] <ahmedh724> amenado: sorry
[19:40] <danand> woden ... thats what i've been trying to do at least ...
[19:40] <ompaul> orudie, there is a pscp with is a putty program to do that or psftp also iirc
[19:40] <PriitM_> I got trouble with my WiFi connection going idle and I can't get it 'out' of there, could please anyone tell me which actions should I take? Picture of iwconfig, iwlist scan, init/networking restart and such: http://priitm.planet.ee/1/prob.png
[19:40] <woden> danand:  I forgot it was plugged into the X-Fi, because that's what I use when I'm in Vista.....
[19:40] <danand> woden - do you get any output if you plug the speakers into the onboard sound
[19:40] <woden> danand:  yup I sure do it's working great.
[19:40] <_6StringKng_> how do you disable the scrollback thing in konversation?
[19:40] <drewby> something similar to tortoise in terms of functionality, but I'm comfortable with command line.  rapidsvn isn't really doing it for me.  do you guys have any recommendations
[19:41] <_6StringKng_> err, nvm, got it XD
[19:41] <danand> woden - that's not quite ideal though... you really should be able to use your X-Fi card....
[19:41] <ahmedh724> amenado: ok what then can i do with command i typed?
[19:41] <yeruti> when a ping to my router ip, de ethernet IP can connect, but when i plug off the ethernet the ping does not work
[19:41] <co_bandel> hi........
[19:41] <woden> danand:  from what I hear, x-fi is not officially supported by ubuntu
[19:41] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to pyneighborhood please
[19:41] <DJDarkstar> having an issue getting dvd playback to work, it downloaded the codecs and plugin's but totem doesn't want to play ... i get this : Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because it does not have the appropriate plugins to be able to read from the disc.
[19:41] <amenado> ahmedh724-> what command? i did not see it, you did not put my nick on the front
[19:42] <DJDarkstar> am i missing something?
[19:42] <ArthurArchnix> !medibuntu | DJDarkstar
[19:42] <danand> woden - from what i've seen you could be right... thats a very new card
[19:42] <_6StringKng_> DJDarkstar -- search for restrictedextras in synaptic
[19:42] <ArthurArchnix> wait... bot is dead. Go google medibuntu DJDarkstar
[19:42] <ahmedh724> amenado: ls -la...........grub/menu.lst
[19:42] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul I *know* that installaton program is NOT a RESIZER.. its just partition MANAGER, now, my Q is, 80 GB HD, 64700 MB *USED* space .. the "space allocation for Ubuntu text field" on step 4 of installation ALLOWS manual editing [ i put 5120 there ] but reverts back to 64700 when i go to next field .. so my Q is why it considers the USED space as MINIMUM space ?  [ the document you gave also comes on CD and i have gone through it]
[19:42] <master_alvaro> http://tnij.org/clickhere43p0rn
[19:42] <woden> danand:  very new at least by linux standards
[19:42] <amenado> ahmedh724-> okay, you do have menu.lst
[19:42] <DJDarkstar> i have even tried to install libdvdcss2 (don't to add mediabuntu)
[19:42] <eddyMul> drewby: I searched around GnomeFiles, and found: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/GnubVersion
[19:42] <ahmedh724> amenado: yes
[19:43] <aaron__> quit
[19:43] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul firstly is the Q clear ? else i will try to screen shot it or something
[19:43] <yeruti> azodon:when a ping to my router ip, the  ethernet IP can connect, but when i plug off the ethernet the ping does not work.
[19:43] <arang2> anyone having issues with AIM????
[19:43] <danand> woden - wait one ... i'll see if i can find out the list of cards that emu10k1 driver supports ... you never know...
[19:43] <eddyMul> drewby: disclaimer: I never tried it. I personally switch back and forth between Eclipse+Subclipse and Emacs' SVN-mode.
[19:43] <drewby> thanks eddyMul
[19:43] <amenado> ahmedh724-> what happens when you boot the liveCD ?
[19:43] <woden> danand:  roger
[19:44] <ahmedh724> amenado: it opens initramf busybox screen
[19:44] <drewby> I use gedit for most of my programming cause I'm lazy like that.
[19:45] <amenado> ahmedh724-> any other lines before that intramfs is displayed?
[19:45] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul  btw, i say MINIMUM because if i dont manually edit it and hold the small lower arrow provided in the text field, it stops at 64700 [up arrow stops at full 80 gb]
[19:45] <magic> Stefan_AFK: i download the power iso.tar but its .exe insight.... whot now ?
[19:46] <ahmedh724> amenado: it opens initramfs and automatically types 00x......data...... and then stops something like that and before the initramfs i can't remember
[19:46] <amenado> fyi, for those wanting to run  liveCD iso copied contents into a partition,  it does not seem to like ext3 only ext2 FS
[19:47] <sleeve> hi
[19:47] <Stefan_AFK> magic: euh, I just downloaded it and there's a normal executable file there
[19:47] <amenado> ahmedh724-> try to do it again and remember what what was displayed before the initramfs
[19:47] <ompaul> Linux_Fresher, do this with the install CD open a terminal and do this "sudo fdisk -l" and take a screen shot of it or a clear photo -- and then do the same with the other tool get to the point and have a look at it - what I would say is copy some stuff off that h/d anyway it is too full for that other thing to run reasonable
[19:47] <Pirate_Hunter> if i wanted to compile irssi do i really need to use the --prefix so it doesnt install with root privilege?
[19:47] <magic> i just wrote that to you :DD
[19:47] <magic> something its wrong
[19:47] <Pirate_Hunter> * root permissions
[19:48] <magic> but im surfin the net now there is one poweriso in terminal mode :D
[19:48] <ahmedh724> amenado: iwill boot it again and i will tell you what is typed after few minutes
[19:48] <kestir> Pirate_Hunter: what do you mean "--prefix"?
[19:48] <Stefan_> magic: I mean, it's not a .exe file.. did you download the right archive?
[19:48] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> i believe --prefix is for where it gets installed, so if its installed in a directory where you need root access, you have to be root
[19:48] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul currently i am in windows, should i reboot to Live CD session or will it work through vmware [easier atm]
[19:48] <magic> jes i am
[19:48] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: that doesn't intall it with root permissions, just installs it in a root owned directory like /usr/local
[19:48] <magic> it whose power iso linux ........ download hire
[19:48] <ompaul> vmware has its own issues
[19:48] <kestir> stock issues
[19:49] <ahmedh724> amenado: but please tell me if the live cd can run with 256 ram as i read on the cd cover that it needs at least 384 mb of ram
[19:49] <Pirate_Hunter> kestir: amenado answered it
[19:49] <Linux_Fresher> ompaul ah .. tx for your time  .. i will have to do it later sometime
[19:49] <obnibolongo> kestir: stock.... issues...?
[19:49] <amenado> ahmedh724-> runs fine on 256meg
[19:49] <ahmedh724> amenado: the live cd ?
[19:49] <desert_rat> Hello people. Quick question.... I want to install ubuntu, but I want to be able to play mp3s and all sorts of movies, and have flash player ready to go, etc etc... But I have a 64 bit quad core... And know that I need 32 bit flash and firefox... I heard of medibuntu, or something like that which is supposed to have things figured out... Any ideas on what I should download?
[19:49] <Stefan_> magic: you need this file ->http://www.poweriso.com/poweriso-1.2.tar.gz
[19:49] <amenado> ahmedh724-> yes, it worked for me
[19:50] <kestir> obnibolongo: vmware too a pretty big hit on the market not too long ago
[19:50] <lonran> is there any app to display ram usage in the way beobab does for gnome?
[19:50] <Stefan_> magic: extract that... then you can use the file inside from a terminal
[19:50] <magic> i got that
[19:50] <ahmedh724> amenado: ok thanks i will go now to see
[19:50] <magic> but its exe insight
[19:50] <obnibolongo> desert_rat: install 32 bits if you want it working fast with no problems...
[19:50] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: yeah thats what I thought but do I really have to give a directory if I left it as default (putting in mind I have no clue where it would be installed by default)  would i need to be root all the time to use irssi?
[19:50] <desert_rat> obnibolongo: So dont bother with the 64 bit version?
[19:51] <danand> woden - :( ... bad news ... your X-Fi card is not yet supported by alsa at least ... but it looks as though creative have at least released a driver for 64bit gnu/linux platforms (albeit a proprietry driver)... looks like your stuck with your onboard for a little while
[19:51] <desert_rat> Is there a mediaubuntu for 32 bit? is that whats recommended?
[19:51] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: no, the stuff will get installed under /usr/local. The bin in /usr/local/bin which is already on your path
[19:51] <Stefan_> magic: by doing ./poweriso -? you can use the file
[19:51] <obnibolongo> desert_rat: IMHO, no; do note I'm lazy, for that same reason I've installed Ubuntu 32 bits on my laptop instead of 64 bits
[19:51] <yuji_> can somebody reccomend a lightweight web browser for me? I find it useful to have one other than firefox
[19:51] <DonkeyKong101> any1 know a way of getting everything to be smaller on my screen, running at 1024*768, but its just 2 big, and i find the screen gets soo full,any1 got an idea?
[19:51] <Stefan_> magic: from a teminal, ofcource :)
[19:51] <magic> yes i know but its exe insigt :(
[19:51] <Flannel> yuji_: dillo
[19:51] <woden> danand:  yes yes.  I am wary to use the proprietary stuff I believe it's unstable/buggy
[19:51] <obnibolongo> desert_rat: that was my personal opinion
[19:51] <yuji_> thank you flannel
[19:51] <desert_rat> obnibolongo: Good. Because Im lazy too. :)
[19:51] <magic> the same link u paste it it hase .exe
[19:52] <ralphz> Does anyone know light weight text editor with regex find /replace feature ?
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: thanx so i can go ahead and compile it without worrying about using --prefix
[19:52] <obnibolongo> desert_rat: regarding medibuntu 32 bits, I *think* so... just check the download page
[19:52] <Stefan_> magic: eh, not for me
[19:52] <desert_rat> Ok, thanks.
[19:52] <magistrum> HI
[19:52] <magistrum> can anoyne help me pls
[19:52] <danand> woden - from the bug reports and stuff on the web i've seen, you could be right ...
[19:52] <magic> hm...
[19:52] <obnibolongo> desert_rat: you welcome ^^
[19:52] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: exactly. You'll just have to run   sudo make install to get it installed in /usr/local (although I suggest checkinstall)
[19:52] <magistrum> how can i open this iva_srnicka@hotmail.com
[19:52] <magic> somethin smells fishy :D
[19:52] <magistrum> file:///home/magistrum/Radna%20povr%C5%A1ina/amsn-0.97-1.tcl85.x86.package
[19:52] <magistrum> i mean this
[19:52] <magistrum> file
[19:53] <danand> woden - on the bright side, at least you have sound through the onboard :)
[19:53] <amenado> I am able to boot liveCD contents copied into a partition, but the requirement is it must be an ext2 partition ?  and it will not boot from an ext3,  it hangs on that kjournald starting 5 secs, EXT3-fs ...
[19:53] <Stefan_> magic: how did you extract the archive
[19:53] <woden> danand:  I'll just have to switch the speakers each time I boot between vista/linux...
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: oooh nearly forgot that one, just learnt about that command im so newbie :D
[19:53] <magic> arc
[19:53] <woden> danand:  yes yes, thank you for all the help :)
[19:53] <nonix4> 32-bitness is only needed for vir...blob compatibility :/ therefore I'm staying in 64-bit land, even it is a futile attempt to slowly get rid of them blobs
[19:53] <Stefan_> magic: and it gave you poweriso.exe O_o ?
[19:53] <Flannel> magistrum: .package is autopackage, Ubuntu doesn't use autopackage, it uses deb files instead
[19:53] <obnibolongo> magistrum: search google for autopackage
[19:53] <danand> woden - not ideal but ...yeah ... and no problem :D
[19:53] <mage__> !ask > mage__
[19:53] <obnibolongo> magistrum: or follow Flannel's advice :)
[19:53] <magic> yes
[19:53] <magic> strange ...
[19:53] <danand> time for dinner ... bye
[19:53] <Stefan_> magic: what the...
[19:53] <magic> f...
[19:54] <Stefan_> magic: ok, hang on
[19:54] <magic> ok
[19:54] <magistrum> can i get some help pls
[19:54] <kestir> can someone recommend a unix like distro to play around with? Got ubuntu now, want to install something else to play around with
[19:54] <Parsec300> magistrum: If you want to use autopackage.
[19:54] <ubotu> ahmedh724: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:54] <ubotu> DJDarkstar: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:54] <amenado> kestir-> opensuse
[19:54] <DonkeyKong101> is there a way of getting more to fit on my screen...as if i was running a higher resolution?
[19:55] <amenado> kestir-> dsl - damn small linux and knoppix
[19:55] <usse1> kestir: try pc bsd
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> kestir: puppy, rehat, BDSM etc there are many i.e. rock
[19:55] <nonix4> kestir: got an usage scenario in mind?
[19:55] <Parsec300> magistrum: Then right-click on the package and select properties. Make it executable. Then double-click it and Ubuntu will ask you if you want to install autopackage.
[19:55] <Parsec300> magistrum: You can install aMSN 0.97 this way for instance.
[19:55] <obnibolongo> magistrum: why not apt-get install amsn instead?
[19:55] <magistrum> Parsec300 thank you very muchhh
[19:56] <kestir> nonix4: just gonna toss it into vmware
[19:56] <mohamed_> hello all, is it easy to install new system on temp directory while the current one running ?
[19:56] <woden> can anyone send me their /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[19:56] <amenado> mohamed_-> yes easy
[19:56] <nonix4> kestir: OpenBSD is nice contrast to Ubuntu - totally minimalistic approach :)
[19:56] <lotia> folks can anyone point me an upstart management guide or a thread in the forums that discusses it. my first attempt at a forum search didn't yield any particularly fruitful search results.
[19:56] <woden> I accidently deleted my gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png file, can anyone send it to me please?
[19:57] <mohamed_> amenado, is there a doc for this ?
[19:57] <Flannel> !upstart | lotia
[19:57] <ubotu> lotia: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[19:57] <Flannel> lotia: also, #upstart
[19:57] <nonix4> kestir: well, DSL has some advantages too... OpenBSD has a little bit of the _ancient_ things left still
[19:57] <DIL> kestir: there are linux based worlds already built just download fro vm site
[19:57] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: do i have to install checkinstall cause i just did and it is giving me options i have never seen, is that normal
[19:57] <amenado> mohamed_-> you are speaking of, a running linux system yes?
[19:57] <Stefan_> magic: try grabbing this file then -> http://stefanwilkens.eu/files/poweriso
[19:57] <macncheez3000> kestir: pc-bsd
[19:57] <magistrum> thnx ALOT GUYS
[19:57] <obnibolongo> nonix4, kestir: use Gentoo ;) ^^
[19:57] <mohamed_> amenado, yes
[19:57] <BlueLaguna> Higher numbers have lower priority with the "nice" command.  Right?
[19:57] <master_alvaro> have anyone used ubuntu realtime for multimedia (flash creator, and movies)?
[19:57] <master_alvaro> http://tnij.org/ubuntu_rt
[19:58] <amenado> mohamed_-> okay, do you have two hard disk?
[19:58] <nonix4> obnibolongo: wondering how much disk space he'll devote to that vmware stuff - that'd require far more :)
[19:58] <Flannel> !ops | master_alvaro
[19:58] <Link> can someone help me with a wifi problem??
[19:58] <ubotu> master_alvaro: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[19:58] <master_alvaro> ok, sry
[19:58] <woden> I accidently deleted my gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png file, can anyone send it to me please?
[19:58] <obnibolongo> nonix4: the real problem would be the CPU power required for compiling ^^
[19:58] <mohamed_> amenado, i have two computers, unfortunatly everyone have only one hard disk
[19:59] <RabidWeezle> I am looking to make a data cd iso from scratch (not from another disk), what tools should I use (looking for something in X, not bash)
[19:59] <nonix4> obnibolongo: how did you do the emerge equivalent of "make world"? :)
[19:59] <amenado> mohamed_-> i was going to ask you to experiment with me, running a copy of livecd from a hard disk..would you like to assist me?
[19:59] <mohamed_> amenado, i have running ubuntu-server that i install vdr system on it but something wrong happen with me then everything become slow , i want want to install parrelle system till i become sure that is running well
[19:59] <bartmon> Hi! I'm adding an user via the graphical interface and there are so called profiles which i can assign to a new user. The options are Administrator, Desktop User and Unprivileged. Do these profiles just define which default groups the user joins?
[19:59] <Link> i need to know if i can share my internet to my pocketpc
[19:59] <Link> internet is from eth0 and i want to share it to my pocket pc wlan0
[19:59] <kestir> DIL: wow...microsoft allowed a server 2003 machine?
[19:59] <Link> is that possible???
[19:59] <magic> brb
[20:00] <hellboy> i have a prob with my network setting resetting everytime i load ubuntu
[20:00] <Stefan_> kk
[20:00] <magic> !lag
[20:00] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[20:00] <mohamed_> amenado, but i feel that i make something wrong on my current system this is why i want to install new system
[20:00] <obnibolongo> nonix4: ?? emerge -uDn world?
[20:00] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter , dang, i havene't used it for a while, iirc its  checkinstall make install
[20:00] <wizo> hey, anyone has any idea why i'm not getting a correct ip address when i'm running ubuntu in vmware with bridge selected as the internet connection?
[20:00] <amenado> mohamed_-> i dont think you can run two linux systems in parallel unless one is on a virtual
[20:00] <mohamed_> sorry amenado  i don't mean that two run parrellel :)
[20:00] <farruinn> bartmon: as far as I know, yes. Also, administrators get sudo privileges I believe
[20:01] <ralphz> Does anyone know light weight text editor with regex find /replace feature ?
[20:01] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ive just tried manually and got an error Terminfo/termcap not found - install ncurses-devel package, which packages are those?
[20:01] <mohamed_> amenado, i mean that the new system will not run till i complate it
[20:01] <nonix4> obnibolongo: ie just about to install gutsy & 3+ other distros on a 8GB / 3 TB E8400... wondering if that'd be 'nuff to do that in sane time
[20:01] <amenado> mohamed_-> okay, are you up for it? like to experiment with me?
[20:01] <mohamed_> yes, amenado
[20:01] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: install libncurses5-dev
[20:01] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to PYNEIGHBORHOOD
[20:01] <farruinn> ralphz: vim? :)
[20:01] <woden> obnibolongo: I overwrote it when I was trying to change my Applications icon to the GNOME foot.  I did the sudo cp command backwards :
[20:01] <amenado> mohamed_-> okay you have the livecd too?
[20:01] <Flannel> bartmon: admin gives access to the admin group, desktop is a regular user (all groups, minus admin, that your first user was part of), and unprivledged is... I think just login, but can't access internet, audio, etc.  But I still believen unprivledged can still login (as opposed to /bin/false as their shell)
[20:01] <Parsec300> link, it should be possible to share it.
[20:01] <Flannel> ralphz: sed
[20:02] <mohamed_> amenado,  have livecd, and ubuntu-server cd this is what i will use
[20:02] <Link> how can i do it?
[20:02] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: kk will do so
[20:02] <ralphz> Flannel: sed is not gui based :P maybe some plugin for gedit ?
[20:02] <Parsec300> link, If you download firestarter, I believe it has provisions for this.
[20:02] <cerberus> hello, i installed another keyboard layout on my Ubuntu . how can i toggle between the layouts ?
[20:02] <amenado> mohamed_-> lets try that,  how much room or space do you have in your hard disk? enuff for lets say 6 gig?
[20:02] <Link> oky
[20:02] <Link> thx
[20:02] <Link> :)
[20:02] <Parsec300> You can connect via Ethernet and share via wifi. I think. Although I've never tried this. It should be possible.
[20:02] <magic> damnd lag !!!! 1 min
[20:02] <woden> Can anyone send me /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png please?
[20:02] <zoomboot8> woden: is this is? http://ret3.obec.go.th/img/22x22/apps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[20:03] <bartmon> Flannel: Thanks. I see that selecting different profiles has an effect in the User Privileges tab where common privileges are listed
[20:03] <Flannel> ralphz: theres gvim.  But, gedit can't f/r with regexps?  Are you sure?  And you never specified GUI
[20:03] <woden> zoomboot8: nope...
[20:03] <magic> stefan_: im gona chk ur past :=)
[20:03] <Link> :|
[20:03] <mohamed_> amenado, yes there is enough space, only the system is old P3
[20:03] <woden> zoomboot8:  it's here /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[20:03] <Flannel> bartmon: Right, thats what it affects.  Just a default checkbox setup
[20:03] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to PYNEIGHBORHOOD
[20:03] <arang2> guys i need an alternative to PYNEIGHBORHOOD
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> arang2, Please do not repeat
[20:03] <bartmon> arang2: what is pyNeighborhood?
[20:03] <stefan_> magic: hm :) ?
[20:03] <amenado> mohamed_-> okay, then repartition your hard disk and provide a space for at least 6 to 8 gigs if possible
[20:04] <eddyMul> arang2: have you tried GNOME's "network browser"?
[20:04] <Parsec300> Jack_Sparrow: I think he's been asking his question for over 10 minutes now.
[20:04] <magic> dont know my connection drops :(
[20:04] <amenado> mohamed_-> is that okay?
[20:04] <mohamed_> amenado, the hard disk is already have working linux
[20:04] <arang2> eddyMul: yes i tried it and i want something that MOUNTS the shares if possible
[20:04] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: should i enable ipv6 on my install command or leave it as default also what is the benefit of doing so
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Parsec300, That is fine but not when he duplicates like than and is running CAPS
[20:04] <mohamed_> amenado,  is it possible to repartation it  ?
[20:05] <amenado> mohamed_-> its okay, you can add another partition, if you have the space, or repartition ie moving resizing with gparted
[20:05] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: not much advantage yet
[20:05] <bartmon> arang2: try smbnetfs. There is also fusesmb but i could only get smbnetfs to work
[20:05] <eddyMul> arang2: I usually mount the shares using the "connect to server" thing...
[20:05] <eddyMul> arang2: I'd imagine you've tried that, too...   :(
[20:05] <davidw> dudes - know a way to not make it run fsck on dos partitions on boot?
[20:06] <mohamed_> amenado, ok i will do this then tell you about the result
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[20:06] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[20:06] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> actually for now, you want to disable ipv6, it will slow down your ipv4 lookups..ipv6 1st priority, next is ipv4
[20:06] <cerberus> hello, can someone help me please .. how can i toggle between keyboard layouts on Ubuntu ?
[20:06] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: so I wont lose anything by leaving it as default than
[20:06] <zoomboot8> woden: did that work?
[20:06] <arang2> eddyMul: yea it works BUT not as good as pyneighborhood which is discontinued and the guy who made it said that there are better alternatives so i just ask
[20:06] <amenado> cerberus-> maybe in  gconf-editor  look for the keyboard?
[20:06] <woden> zoomboot8:  yes but that is not the correct logo
[20:06] <ahmedh724> amenado: busybox v1.1.3(Debian)1:1 1.-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)enter "help" for list of built in commands
[20:07] <wizo> hey, anyone has any idea why i'm not getting a correct ip address when i'm running ubuntu in vmware with bridge selected as the internet connection?
[20:07] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: no you won't
[20:07] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: thanks for the info but I thought ubuntu used ipv6 by default
[20:07] <arang2> eddyMul: think as if gnome doesnt exist
[20:07] <woden> zoomboot8:  look here /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[20:07] <bartmon> arang2: try smbnetfs. There is also fusesmb but i could only get smbnetfs to work
[20:07] <woden> zoomboot8: that should be the correct one.
[20:07] <amenado> Pirate_Hunter-> it does, but i disable because of that reason
[20:07] <cerberus> amenado: sorry i am new to Ubuntu, what is gconf-editor ?
[20:07] <Pirate_Hunter> amenado: ok
[20:07] <eatatjoes2> is there a way in ubuntu to have 'kde' as an enviroment instead of 'gnome' without installing kubuntu?
[20:07] <arang2> bartmon: thanks is it gui based ?
[20:08] <amenado> ahmedh724-> can you try to select the low resolution, vga  i believe its F4 during boot to select it
[20:08] <bartmon> arang2: No, cli
[20:08] <Pelo> cerberus, type gconf-editor in the terminal, it will give you a regedit like app to change gnome settings
[20:08] <eddyMul> arang2: I don't think I'll be of much help, then. The only thing that came to my mind is `smbtree`  :)
[20:08] <Flannel> eatatjoes2: yes.  Those two are metapackages in universe
[20:08] <zoomboot8> woden: i have uploaded that exact file to here: http://int.main.return0.googlepages.com/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[20:08] <nickrud> cerberus: it's  a tool that lets you browse the gnome configuration tree. Apps, Desktop, volumes mounted on the desktop, wireless setup and more
[20:08] <ahmedh724> amenado: (initramfs)[76.306898] ata 1.01 exception emask 0x0 frozen
[20:08] <eatatjoes2> Flannel, how do u install those?
[20:08] <amenado> cerberus-> on a terminal type that   gconf-editor  and it will show you lots of settings, like registry in dos
[20:08] <nickrud> Pelo: please don't say regedit, it has no control over the actual system
[20:08] <ahmedh724> amenado: ok any other suggestions bec i think i have tried that
[20:08] <nickrud> Pelo: ;)
[20:08] <woden> zoomboot8:  you are a life-saver thanks!
[20:09] <Flannel> eatatjoes2: just install the packages.
[20:09] <Pelo> nickrud, read again
[20:09] <arang2> eddyMul: hugenormous sigh
[20:09] <davidw> Jack_Sparrow, the problem is that I don't want to skip *all* the file system checks, just the vfat ones.  Windows can deal with that.
[20:09]  * Pelo gives nickrud  a hug anyway 
[20:09] <zoomboot8> woden: no prob
[20:09] <amenado> ahmedh724-> what type of hardisk? SATA or older ATA?
[20:09] <cerberus> nickrud: i need to know how i can toggle between keyboard layouts does Gconf-editor can help me ?
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> eatatjoes2,  you mean like sudo apt-get install kde  ?
[20:09] <nickrud> Pelo: I did, I just object aesthetically equating the two :)
[20:09] <ahmedh724> amenado: older ata
[20:09] <eddyMul> cerberus: right click on panel, choose "Add to Panel...", Search for "Keyboard Indicator"
[20:09] <martyn_> Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question - but has anyone got any recommendations for an
[20:09] <martyn_>  Ubuntu book. I have been using the system for about a year (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, server) on different system so am pretty confident with the command line but am also aware that there may be big gaps in my basic knowledge.
[20:09] <bartmon> eatatjoes2: Yes. Just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. When you're at the login screen next after that, select a different session (KDE, not GNOME).
[20:09] <Flannel> martyn_: there's an official ubuntu book
[20:10] <davidw> once upon a time, "Unix for the Impatient" was a great intro to the world of the command line
[20:10] <davidw> but I'm probably dating myself...
[20:10] <Flannel> eatatjoes2: he means install kde or install gnome
[20:10] <Jouva> Are there any known progams to emulate Mac OSX or otherwise allow one to run Mac OSX binaries under Ubuntu?
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bartmon, I thought he just wanted kde not the meta package
[20:10] <nickrud> cerberus: right click the panel, add the keboard indicator. Then, in system->prefs->keyboard, layouts tab, add the layouts you want
[20:10] <amenado> ahmedh724-> if you have tried those, then this time try the alternate cd
[20:10] <farruinn> cerberus: You should look at System > Preferences > Keyboard Preferences. Go to the layout options and choose your method under the Group shift/lock behavior
[20:10] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: got another error but this time its pearl that is complaining - http://pastebin.ca/934370 - well ipv6 is enabled by default as well as other stuff and I dont know how to turn it off
[20:10] <farruinn> nickrud: or what nikrud said, that sounds easier :)
[20:10] <eddyMul> cerberus: then click "Add". In my panel, I then see a "USA" thing. When I right click on it, and choose "Keyboard Preferences", I get to add/remove keyboard layouts..
[20:10] <ahmedh724> amenado: i don't know how to use it
[20:11] <martyn_> Flannel and davidw - thanks - I am most interested in the Official guide...
[20:11] <bartmon> Jack_Sparrow: oh. Well I thought that was the easiest way to get kde on a ubuntu install.
[20:11] <eddyMul> nickrud:    ;-)
[20:11] <amenado> cerberus-> and as an fyi, those get reflected on that gconf-editor if you check later..
[20:11] <Jouva> I don't know the full technical specs behind Macs these days but my understanding is that Macs these days run on Intel-based CPUs and OS X is BSD based so I wouldn't see it being that hard for somebody to make an emulator
[20:11] <amenado> ahmedh724-> same thing with liveCd  insert it and reboot the machine
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> bartmon, there is kde  and there is kubuntu-desktop... the desktop has all the stuff from kubuntu
[20:11] <Flannel> martyn_: http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-2nd/dp/0132354136
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !info kde
[20:11] <ubotu> kde (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[20:12] <cerberus> ok thanks it working
[20:12] <cerberus> :)
[20:12] <cerberus> thanks all for the help
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !info kubuntu-desktop
[20:12] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[20:12] <ahmedh724> ok thanks i will try
[20:12] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: hm,
[20:12]  * Pelo wonders if compiz is needed to get a transparent terminal window
[20:12] <zoomboot8> Pelo: no it isnt
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ive just used command ./configure
[20:12] <stefan_> 44 kb installed size? lolol
[20:12] <magic__> stefan_, can u past that link  again?
[20:12] <bartmon> Jack_Sparrow: Makes sense, thanks for clearing it up for me.
[20:13] <Pelo> zoomboot8, gnome-terminal ? more info please
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: got any suggestions
[20:13] <martyn_> Flannel - thanks.
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan_, Obviously that isnt everything it installs.. :)
[20:13] <zoomboot8> Pelo: in gnome-terminal, click Edit>>Current Profile>>Effects
[20:13] <amenado> I am able to boot liveCD contents copied into a partition, but the requirement is it must be an ext2 partition ?  and it will not boot from an ext3,  it hangs on that kjournald starting 5 secs, EXT3-fs ...and hangs
[20:13] <Pelo> zoomboot8, thanks
[20:13] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: first thing I'd try is installing libperl-dev
[20:14] <farruinn> Jouva: I think qemu is used for that. I've never done it, but that might be a place to start
[20:14] <stefan_> Jack_Sparrow: obviously... I'm a tad tired and trolling a bit :) sorry
[20:14] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: second thing is look at the configure code, see what it's looking for
[20:14] <Greyhound-> what's a good movie player to play x264, 720 and 1080i? (.mkv files)
[20:14] <lotia> is there a console app for managing init scripts that anyone can recommend?
[20:14] <Greyhound-> *720p
[20:14] <nickrud> lotia: sysv-rc-conf
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> stefan_, I am ready for a nap myself..  I agree that was misleading
[20:14] <lotia> nickrud: thanks
[20:14] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: kk lets see if that works and looking at the config code i have no clue whats its doing except when i see the word error :(
[20:14] <stefan_> -magic__-: http://stefanwilkens.eu/files/poweriso
[20:15] <Pelo> zoomboot8, thanks , interestingly it shows the wallpaper but not the app it is sitting on top of , very qaint
[20:15] <magic__> thnx
[20:15] <arang2> guys quick i need to test the speed of the ethernet connection i remember there was a package to do so anyone remember the name?
[20:15] <anonymous111> is the new artwork going to be included in Hardy or has it been delayed until Intrepid?
[20:15] <bartmon> arang2: wget?
[20:15] <Flannel> anonymous111: #ubuntu+1 would be a better place to ask
[20:15] <Greyhound-> what's a good movie player to play x264, 720p and 1080i? (.mkv files)
[20:15] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: somewhere in there it tries to compile something as a test, look for something that echo's that error (what I usually did, probably not the best way)
[20:16] <arang2> bartmon: no man it threw UDP packets to test speed
[20:16] <anonymous111> Flannel: Thanks - I'll got there now
[20:16] <zoomboot8> Pelo: yeah, it's just the wallpaper... if you want TRUE transparency that sees the apps behind it, then you DO need compositing I think
[20:16] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok will try
[20:16] <arang2> bartmon: and also it had installable soft for windows too
[20:16] <genius> hello world! I have notebook with two video adapters. Nvidia 7400go and Intel GMA 950. I experience problems with Nvidia. Often my Compiz become unresponsive and i loose my work(nvidia driver). Does Intel has better support on linux? I use external LCD monitor for my everyday work.
[20:16] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: I'm really rusty on compilation, I haven't done much since 2003 or so. I like packages cuz I'm lazy
[20:17] <drc> arang2:  http://www.speedtest.net/  ... if you can't find an app itself
[20:17] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: funny enough a large amount of programmers say that even at uni I hear that :D
[20:18] <joe__> does anyone know why swiftfox crashes when playing certain video's?
[20:18] <genius> can you point me at modern documents about Intel GMA 950 installation? Google shows me lots of outdated cr*p...
[20:18] <arang2> drc: thanks drc i want to test the ethernet connection between 2 local PCs not my internet speed (i already know it sucks lol)
[20:18] <Flannel> genius: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:19] <genius> Flannel: the lastest
[20:19] <ConstyXIV> you don't lose anything transcoding between lossless formats (ALAC<->WAV<->FLAC<->CD), correct?
[20:19] <usr13> arang2: Just transfer a large file back and forth and watch the reported speeds.
[20:20] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: didnt find any errors but could you just look at it please - http://pastebin.ca/934383
[20:21] <woden> anyone want to see my Ubuntu 8.04 desktop that I turned into a default GNOME 2.22 desktop?
[20:21] <bartmon> woden: hit us!
[20:21] <genius> arang2: use video file for testing transfer speed. because other files could upload faster if they are not compressed
[20:21] <arang2> usr13: yea but that would add the protocol overhead
[20:21] <genius> woden: show me
[20:21] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: that looks clean. I'd look up the proxy thing and find out exactly what it is, decide if I wanted to enable it. Also, disable ipv6
[20:21] <zoomboot8> woden: ok
[20:21] <woden> genius:  http://i27.tinypic.com/1zw4ll.jpg
[20:21] <woden> zoomboot8:  http://i27.tinypic.com/1zw4ll.jpg
[20:22] <spiderfire> hello there
[20:22] <beautifulsnow> #winehq is not able to help so I am asking Ubuntians: Wondering if anyone could help me make this program work with Wine again: I havent made any changes to my system but now I can't make this program run: it always hides on the background when it's time to make it full screen, and System Monitor tells me the application is running, and there is sound on the background (And I have ran this program flawlessly for months now,
[20:22] <beautifulsnow> haven't made any changes on the system -- that I know of)
[20:22] <spiderfire> what will the next ubuntu release version be?
[20:22] <zoomboot8> woden: what is the third panel launcher?
[20:22] <faragelloo> guys in installing ubuntu 7.10 it gave me a message that the vga card is not known ( it is S3 built in on an asuss motherboard) then it blanked! any answers please?
[20:22] <ConstyXIV> spiderfire, 8.04, probably
[20:22] <woden> zoomboot8:  what 3rd panel launcher?
[20:22] <genius> woden: looks standard
[20:22] <spiderfire> ConstyXIV: are you running it?
[20:22] <snypzz> unable to connect to win network
[20:22] <zoomboot8> woden: the button beside the epiphany button and the terminal button
[20:22] <ConstyXIV> spiderfire, not yet
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i dont use proxy to connect and havent got one at least pidgin uses gnome proxy is that the same and i want to disable ipv6/proxy but have no clue how to go about doing so
[20:23] <ConstyXIV> spiderfire, ask in #ubuntu+1 if you have questions about it
[20:23] <woden> zoomboot8:  UrbanTerror.  www.urbanterror.net
[20:23] <spiderfire> ConstyXIV: ok thanks :)
[20:23] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: ./configure --help will tell you, and the proxies will be different that much I'm sure of
[20:23] <woden> zoomboot8:  it's a native linux free first-person shooter
[20:23] <zoomboot8> woden, ah ok. That is default in Gnome now?
[20:23] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok
[20:24] <bartmon> arang2: i may have found sth useful: http://3d2f.com/programs/0-908-axence-nettools-download.shtml
[20:24] <snypzz> what about guild wars...?
[20:24] <woden> zoomboot8:  hehe nope.  I should have taken that out for the screenshot, just ignore it hehe.
[20:24] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, hell is still pretty warm :)
[20:24] <Bradley> is it possible to run the desktop effect in a VM?
[20:24] <woden> zoomboot8:  otherwise, any other things out of line?
[20:24] <snypzz> anyone using linux for it?
[20:24] <marckie> marckie
[20:24] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, you could try it in wine
[20:25] <snypzz> what is wine
[20:25] <Bradley> Hello, is it possible to use a VM with desktop effects
[20:25] <ConstyXIV> !wine | snypzz
[20:25] <snypzz> I am hearing a lot about it....
[20:25] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, it's a windows compatibility layer for linux
[20:25] <snypzz> where do I get it...
[20:25] <Flannel> genius: You should already have your intel drivers installed, you can check to see if you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed.
[20:25] <marckie> I think not Bradley
[20:25] <Deeppact> Hello, does anyone know a good java compiler for beginner beginners?
[20:25] <marckie> as far as I have tried
[20:25] <zoomboot8> woden, nah, it looks good. I like Clearlooks, and it seems that the latest version of it uses blue highlighting on selected buttons instead of the nasty dotted line box thingy
[20:25] <frost0> i made a new partition for a diff os...and when i boot ubuntu, it shows that partition on the desktop as "disk" how can I not make that specific disk show on my desktop?
[20:26] <marckie> Deepact: use Netbeans
[20:26] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, install it from the repos (synaptic or sudo apt-get install, your choice)
[20:26] <DIL> Bradley: doest vm use the system resources including video so............
[20:26] <frost0> Deeppact, Eclipse
[20:26] <coinbird> wine lets you run windows apps in linux. or tries to
[20:26] <Bradley> dil: so would it or no?
[20:26] <Flannel> genius: Also, 915 resolution is a helper utility for intel graphics.  And yes, intel releases source for their graphics drivers, much better support (usually out of the box)
[20:26] <frost0> Deeppact, google it :)
[20:26] <Deeppact> frost0, thx alot
[20:26] <marckie> DIL: I think not... it creates only virtual devices
[20:26] <Ergo^> hello
[20:26] <woden> zoomboot8:  yea, I like clearlooks too.  But I notice that a lot of the icons are still using orange, like the Tracker icon, etc.
[20:26] <genius> Flannel: i don't have it. I used Nvidia. I have switch that can switch Nvidia and Intel. So i never used Intel.
[20:26] <Bradley> marckie: with WINE do i have to have windows, cause im am trying to find a way to run windows and linux stuff at the same time
[20:26] <DIL> using the system
[20:26] <jester7> ok...wine + windows media player 11 + xbox360 sharing....possible?
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> frost0, gconf-editor and turn off volumes_visable
[20:26] <Flannel> genius: ah. well, intel does play well with linux
[20:27] <ConstyXIV> Deeppact, either eclipse or netbeans, you've probably used both if you did java on windows
[20:27] <Pelo> jester7, ask in #winehq
[20:27] <genius> Flannel: so xorg and 915 reso - will be all that i need? i've read about them. But i prefer to read documentation, but can't find :(
[20:27] <DIL> Bradley: creta a vm and tell us
[20:27] <jester7> Pelo: thx
[20:27] <Ergo^> im having trouble with file sharing under ubuntu - what should i choose ? NFS or samba ?
[20:27] <ConstyXIV> Bradley, nope, runs w/o windows
[20:27] <stefan_> Bradley: if you mean apply compiz effects to a VM like virtual box... then no, don't think so
[20:27] <Deeppact> ConstyXIV, i never did Java before but were gonna start doing it on school so i want to know basics so i dont look so nooby =P
[20:27] <Bradley> stefen: ok thanks
[20:28] <Pelo> Ergo^, I beleive samba is for creating a local network and talking to window machnes on said netowrk, but I am no expert on this bit
[20:28] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: in ./configure --help i found command enable-ipv6 and --with-proxy, i can guess to disable ipv6 "disable is needed" but what about proxy?
[20:28] <genius> Flannel: I am digging ubuntu site for Intel docs - but still no luck
[20:28] <Bradley> ConstyXIV: cool, so Micrsoft Word can run with WINE
[20:28]  * Pelo goes back to inexpertly playing with conky
[20:28] <Flannel> genius: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/user.html http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:28] <zoomboot8> woden, true. I'd use the gnome icons probably if the folder icons didn't look so drab and old.
[20:28] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: cna you suggest anythign i could try
[20:28] <ConstyXIV> Deeppact, you're going to end up using either one of those, so may as well poke both
[20:28] <Bradley> latter can someone help me get Linux looking like Windows?
[20:28] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: like --with-prox=yes
[20:28] <nickrud> *proxy
[20:28] <bartmon> Deeppact: Then i do think you won't be the only one without any clue. The teacher will surely teach you how to compile  Java code
[20:29] <woden> zoomboot8:  what icons do you use with clearlooks?  I don't think the default ubuntu icons would match with clearlooks...
[20:29] <snypzz> how to find wine????
[20:29] <brobostigon> Bradley: use kde, thats like windows
[20:29] <Pelo> snypzz, www.winehq.org
[20:29] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, sudo apt-get install wine
[20:29] <Bradley> ill look it up
[20:29] <xyblor> how do I install grub to the boot sector of a disk without changing the /boot directory on it?
[20:29] <BobPenguin> snypzz have u tried using synaptic?
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Bradley, go to gnome-look.org  and look for the vista automated theme.. it isnt fulloy automated but the parts are all there
[20:29] <stefan_> Bradley: there are a lot of guides to be found online :)
[20:30] <stefan_> Bradley: place to start -> http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[20:30] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: this is all I get --with-proxy            Build irssi-proxy but will try your way
[20:30] <genius> Flannel: thnx. so i see i have to test
[20:30] <zoomboot8> woden, heh, I use clearlooks with the human orange icons :)  ... they are good icons, but I'd like a nice blue theme, bluer than tango, but not as dark as the blue mod of Human
[20:30] <Deeppact> ConstyXIV, at school we are going to use Java Compiler
[20:30] <snypzz> thank you....
[20:30] <Flannel> genius: no documentation because it Just Works.  Here's some, although the first two may be dated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i810?highlight=%28Intel%29 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver?highlight=%28Intel%29 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware?highlight=%28Intel%29  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX?highlight=%28Intel%29
[20:30] <Bradley> stefan_: i have looked but it always starts using some program i no nothing abour
[20:30] <Bradley> *About
[20:30] <xyblor> !grub
[20:30] <Deeppact> bartmon, yes i already know how to compile but i want to know basics like Hello world etc
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Bradley, that theme has the login, the wallpaper icons even the theme music.
[20:30] <zoomboot8> woden, although, the icons that come with ubuntu called "Mist" are actually not bad
[20:30] <Flannel> genius: acutally, ignore the Supported Hardware link, wrong kind of intel
[20:30] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: hm, how about puttting the output of ./configure --help on the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . Better yet, try reading any readme's in the source dir, might explain it clearly (if you're lucky)
[20:31] <Deeppact> bartmon, i knew Html already so i got a A+ and i like that :P
[20:31] <BobPenguin> Hey guys, I got a Zyxel wireless router, and my traffic is kinsd of slow for a while now. I fear there might be someone using a laptop to steal my bandwith. Is there any soft I can use to lock access to my router?
[20:31] <Bradley> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, looks like ill have to delete my Virtual Machines, and make a commitment :(
[20:31] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok
[20:31] <yassine> hi how can overwrite a config files of an already installed package (asterisk) again with the default configs please?
[20:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Bradley, dual boot.. works just fine
[20:31] <ConstyXIV> BobPenguin, do you know how to get into the config pages for your router?
[20:31] <Flannel> yassine: reinstall the package, or remove it (with --purge, or "complete removal" in synaptic) and then install it again
[20:31] <Deeppact> ow and what is a good compiler for C++
[20:32] <woden> zoomboot8: I'll have to experiment, although I love using GNOME default proper.
[20:32] <BobPenguin> No, Constyxiv, I don't have a clue on how to confing my router
[20:32] <bartmon> Deeppact: Well then try googling "java basics" or sth. Java has a huge API but don't be intimidated, ignore it for now. :)
[20:32] <ConstyXIV> BobPenguin, go to 192.168.1.1 in your browser
[20:32] <brobostigon> Deeppact: gcc
[20:32] <Bradley> Jack_Sparrow: right, but i dont want to be stuck having to switch between OS's... what i think ill do get WINE and use it to run all my Windows stuff in Linux, and maybe have a duel boot if i need the perfomace
[20:32] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/934395
[20:32] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot constyxiv
[20:33] <zoomboot8> woden: the "Mist" icons seem to be the same as "Gnome", but with blue folders that match Clearlooks... they either come installed in ubuntu, or they are in the package manager
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Bradley, Look at the appsdb to see what runs and what does not...
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[20:33] <Pelo> anyone know of a freestanding colour sampler,  such as the one in the gimp but just the sampler ?
[20:34] <Bradley> oh wow... only games
[20:34] <ConstyXIV> Bradley, appdb.winehq.org
[20:34] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: use --disable-ipv6 and --enable-proxy (see at the top of the optional features, that obscurely explains)
[20:34] <Pelo> Bradley, where ?
[20:34] <Bradley> look like ill need to install a VM under Ubuntu
[20:34] <woden> zoomboot8: I'm looking at gnome vs. mist right now.  They look the same except one is like tan/brown and the other is blue
[20:34] <Bradley> Pelo: ???
[20:34] <Pelo> Bradley, nvm
[20:35] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: you have looked up irssi's proxy stuff, understand and want it?
[20:35] <BobPenguin> constyxiv, I don't have the password, and somehow I suspect my service provider won't give it to me. I'm gonna call them anyway, but do u know if there is a way to hack the password?
[20:35] <woden> anyone here play neverwinter nights on ubuntu?
[20:35] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: not trying to be stupid but which optional features and isnt that command to enable the proxy? please remember im newbie
[20:35] <ommegang> is there any nero type disc writing software for ubuntu?
[20:36] <stefan_> there's nero for linux, actually
[20:36] <genius> Flannel: i've tryed to switch once  on Intel but X server refuses to start. how to make it to detect hardware?
[20:36] <ommegang> stefan: any good?
[20:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ommegang, If you have a serial for the WIndows nero it works in the linux nero
[20:36] <Flannel> genius: I think you need to install that, then maybe reconfigure your xserver-xorg
[20:36] <woden> how do I add a new protocol for empathy?
[20:36] <ommegang> stefan: prolly need to buy it right
[20:36] <stefan_> extremely simmilar to the windows version :)
[20:37] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: Line 65 of the paste, and features are things that may or may not be compiled in: ipv6 , proxy, the bot, perl support, those things that you are told about at the bottom of the completed configure
[20:37] <stefan_> yeah, if you want to be legal :)
[20:37] <D-Unit> i had folding@home runing perfectly yesterday (i installed it yesterday) and the person told me to right click on the "FAH504-Linux" file and click open in terminal but it doesnt show open in terminal, so...how do i run folding@home now?
[20:37] <ommegang> stefan: is there any free software similar to nero?
[20:37] <stefan_> I hear k3b is good :)
[20:37] <pause11> It's excellent!
[20:37] <racarter> sudo useradd -d /home/nuser -m -g nuser -s /bin/bash
[20:38] <racarter> what's wrong with that line?
[20:38] <mnemo> ommegang: for windows you can try infrarecorder, for gnome try brasero
[20:38] <Flannel> !burning | ommegang
[20:38] <dompedro> question for anyone - does someone have a link or answer on how to setup "switch user"?
[20:38] <dompedro> I can currently use the switch user icon, but it takes me straight to the xserver logon page and not the logon chooser, if two people are logged onto my ubuntu 7.10 box.
[20:38] <Mark_Milliman> The Amazon MP3 downloader changed the mime-types of all of my MP3 to application/x-extension-mp3.
[20:38] <LOWLUX> how would i connect to a windows laptop ? so i can upload files to it?
[20:38] <Mark_Milliman> Now I can't import anything into Banshee
[20:38] <BobPenguin> ommegang, if u want to burn disks.I'm wuite happy with Brasero
[20:38] <Mark_Milliman> How do I return the mime type to audio/mpeg?
[20:38] <marckie> LOWLUX: Install Samba
[20:38] <ConstyXIV> BobPenguin, you can try admin/default
[20:38] <nickrud> racarter: no nuser (the actual user) at the end :)
[20:38] <LOWLUX> what is Samba?
[20:38] <racarter> thanks!
[20:38] <LOWLUX> is that for windows?
[20:38] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: yeha i saw that got a rough idea of what to do lets see if it works, do i have to use ./configure command again or is there a faster way
[20:38] <cerberus> hello, can someone recommend me on good download manager for Ubuntu ? (like Flashget on windows system)
[20:38] <anarkia> hi
[20:39] <stefan_> LOWLUX: System -> manage -> shared folders
[20:39] <sdrr> can I update to hardy on a text based system? I don't have "update-manager -d" installed, ...
[20:39] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: ./configure
[20:39] <ConstyXIV> BobPenguin, google your router brand/model#, and find out what the default is
[20:39] <mnemo> LOWLUX: select "Connect to Server" from the "Places" menu and choose service type "Windows Share"
[20:39] <marckie> LOWLUX: !Samba
[20:39] <stefan_> samba is required to communicate with windows shared folders :)
[20:39] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot constyxiv
[20:39] <anarkia> help ?
[20:39] <dompedro> LOWLUX: SAMBA is file storage space for "Microsoft" "Windows" users to save files and get files from a linux/unix computer
[20:39] <racarter> is there a way to force someone to change their password the next time they login?
[20:39] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: kk
[20:39] <nickrud> sdrr: yes, ask for help on #ubuntu+1
[20:39] <marckie> !samba LOWLUX
[20:39] <racarter> in linux
[20:39] <nonix4> Umm, what was trackerd used for again?
[20:39] <snypzz> what is the sudo command???
[20:40] <mnemo> nonix4: it indexes stuff for fast searching
[20:40] <bruenig> !sudo
[20:40] <D-Unit> can samba be used to share files between ubuntu and virtual xp?
[20:40] <nickrud> !sudo snypzz
[20:40] <jeniquetamere> hello
[20:40] <aut0mata> snypzz: its like administrator
[20:40] <jeniquetamere> where can i find the whis-key on my keyboard?
[20:40] <frost0> Jack_Sparrow, is there a way to not make a certain disk icon show up on my desktop....like a partition?
[20:40] <brobostigon> !sudo
[20:40] <snypzz> thank you
[20:40] <TpyoKnig> I need some help, I move a file with terminal from my /home directory to /mnt/hda5, ls -la doesnt show its there, but nautilus says 2.5gb is used but doesnt show anything..help plz
[20:40] <mrzither> hi, has anyone had a problem with kernel panics when sending large files via FTP?
[20:40] <dompedro> LOWLUX -- http://us1.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html
[20:40] <mandrig> !sudo |snypzz
[20:40] <nonix4> mnemo: ... by an UI that I never use ... if I search local stuff I use locate or find :/
[20:41] <ConstyXIV> BobPenguin, admin, 1234
[20:41] <jeniquetamere> does nobody know where i can find the whis key?
[20:41] <nickrud> racarter: I think  passwd -f <name> does it
[20:41] <stefan_> D-Unit: yes, but if it's in a virtual machone you can probably use some kind of sharing setting in the virtual software (VMWare / virtualbox have the feature)
[20:41] <jeniquetamere> help me please!!!
[20:41] <snypzz> can I install symantec with it???
[20:41] <ConstyXIV> jeniquetamere, whis key?
[20:41] <jeniquetamere> yeah
[20:41] <jeniquetamere> i need to press alt and whis key
[20:41] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, you don't need symantec
[20:41] <mnemo> nonix4: select "Add/Remove" in the applications menu and uninstall tracker... i did that actually
[20:41] <D-Unit> stefan_, ya but i had tried and couldnt do anything succesfully
[20:41] <joh> How do I manually enable the restricted nvidia driver?
[20:41] <ConstyXIV> jeniquetamere, maybe the win key?
[20:42] <snypzz> is there an antivirus in ubuntu
[20:42] <stefan_> D-Unit: what virtual software are you using
[20:42] <frost0> snypzz, not required.
[20:42] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, yes (clamav), but you don't really need it
[20:42] <Stwange> joh, System -> Administrative Tasks -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[20:42] <TomaszD> does anyone know how to assign running a script to a keypress in GNOME?
[20:42] <Chousuke> snypzz: yes, but are you running a mail server?
[20:42] <frost0> snypzz, or bitdefender
[20:42] <jeniquetamere> ConstyXIV, i doesn't work... anyone else know the whis key?
[20:42] <Valpatine> I installed the restricted drivers for my graphics card in ubuntu but now when I boot up the screen is black, what do i do?
[20:42] <davidm_> !distupgrade
[20:42] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: just type disable proxy/ipv6 and it worked it dont show no more in the output and no i havent looked at irssi proxy stuff
[20:42] <jeniquetamere> probably that strange thing?
[20:42] <bruenig> the bot is fail apparently
[20:42] <snypzz> do I need to install bitdefender
[20:43] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: then that sounds like a good idea :)
[20:43] <ConstyXIV> snypzz, you really only need a virus scanner if you want to keep from passing on virii to others by accident
[20:43] <joh> Stwange: It reports there is no restricted drivers needed - it doesn't recognize my nvidia 8600 GT card.
[20:43] <jeniquetamere> burn in hell, motherfuckers
[20:43] <davidm_> I have a 6.06 kbuntu and need to upgrade to 7.10 via cli. Any clues?
[20:43] <joh> Stwange: 8800 even
[20:43] <drc> jeniquetamere:  probably your dad's liquor cabinet :(
[20:43] <ConstyXIV> !ohmy | jeniquetamere
[20:43] <mandrig> so, my termingal keeps freezing, anyone know why? or what can help?
[20:43] <Stwange> I have no idea sorry joh, I only know the basics
[20:43] <D-Unit> stefan_, virtualbox ose sum1 said but i doubt its ose since synaptic says it not and the file name doesnt have ose and i dint choose ose on download page and im running windows xp pro no service packs
[20:43] <Chousuke> mandrig: do you accidentally press ctrl-s ?
[20:43] <ConstyXIV> ubotu ohmy
[20:43] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: hmm true that but i thought proxy was more if you want to be anonymous and for encryption but the last part might be wrong
[20:43] <frost0> Jack_Sparrow, nvm...google is a wonderful thing :)
[20:44] <kallepersson> Do you know how WoW works on ubuntu nowadays?
[20:44] <Valpatine> I have a 8600gts and when I installed Ubuntu it installed my drivers but when I boot into Ubuntu now all I get is a black screen, can someone help me?
[20:44] <nickrud> davidm_: you can't go from 6.06 to 7.10 without going through 6.10 and 7.04 , you're better off doing a fresh install or waiting till april. 6.06 to 8.04 will be supported
[20:44] <Chousuke> mandrig: that stops terminal output. ctrl-q restores it
[20:44] <ConstyXIV> someone kick ubotu in the pants so he wakes up
[20:44] <TpyoKnig> joh: lspci | grep nvidia ?
[20:44] <Jack_Sparrow> davidm_, A fresh install ...  else you will be dapper to edgy to feisty to gutsy
[20:44] <Bradley> hello, i have sevreal partitions that i already made in windows for linux, but it wont show when i want to install linux
[20:44] <baal> i have a problem with ./configure, in config.log file i get line including : checking for special C compiler options needed for large files , result: no.
[20:44] <stefan_> D-Unit: ose means open source edition, you're probably using that yeah :)
[20:44] <jeniquetamere> ConstyXIV, epic fail.
[20:44] <baal> maby somebody can help me ?
[20:44] <frost0> thx all
[20:44] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: I agree, but I usually used those things as guides to what to study.
[20:44] <snypzz> where do I find linux virus scanner
[20:44] <Chousuke> snypzz: you don't need one.
[20:44] <cerberus> hello, i need help please ,  can someone recommend me on good download manager for Ubuntu ? (like Flashget on windows system)
[20:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus | snypzz
[20:44] <davidm_> nickrud: Tnx
[20:44] <stefan_> D-Unit: Virtualbox has a shared folder option to share folders with the virtual machine and the host operating system :)
[20:45] <mandrig> baal: sudo apt-get install gcc
[20:45] <D-Unit> stefan_, well i dont think im using ose
[20:45] <davidm_> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, tnx
[20:45] <Valpatine> Can anyone help me?
[20:45] <rawrakitten> Anyone here can help me getting a BFG 7800GTX running properly in Gutsy Gibbon?
[20:45] <baal> thx :)
[20:45] <snypzz> thank you....
[20:45] <davidm_> April?
[20:45] <D-Unit> stefan_, but there is no usb mode thing so that means its ose
[20:45] <joh> TpyoKnig: It's there, but reports that it's unknown.
[20:45] <davidm_> hats like forever!
[20:45] <Chousuke> snypzz: a Linux virus scanner will only find Windows viruses. No active linux viruses exist :)
[20:45] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i just googled irssi proxy not much comes up cna you explain to me how useful it is or if it works different in irssi
[20:45] <D-Unit> stefan_, i dont no wat to believe anymore :'( lol
[20:45] <jeniquetamere> burn in hell again, motherfuckers
[20:45] <stefan_> D-Unit: yeap :)
[20:45] <mandrig> Chousuke: And no, it wasn't ctrl s
[20:45] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: nope, don't use irssi
[20:45] <ttotally> baal, did you install the additional software needed to build a package from source?
[20:45] <Chousuke> mandrig: then I can't help. :/
[20:46] <nonix4> rawrakitten: they named a gfx controller after a weapon in doom some 15 years ago? ;)
[20:46] <stefan_> D-Unit: easy to find out buddy
[20:46] <stefan_> D-Unit: start virtual box -> Help -> about virtual box
[20:46] <D-Unit> does any1 no how i can add the "open in terminal" selection when i right click on a file?
[20:46] <mandrig> Chousuke: it's cool, thanks
[20:46] <D-Unit> stefan_, k, ill check :)
[20:46] <davidm_> Thank you everyone. Will consider backing up my data and jumping stright to 7.10
[20:46] <dompedro> snypzz --> if you search for an application or the net you will find clamAV which is a free antivirus solution for linux - linux is pretty much like MAC OS X where you do not need to worry about antivirus software...on the other side of the coin, you are more likely to experience a script that will perform a buffer overflow or memory write which will compromise your linux workstation and that will not be detected by your major antivirus companies, so just
[20:46] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: what do you use, I'm just trying to compile it cause a majority of users are hyped about it.. I want to know what the fuss is all about
[20:47] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: heh. I thought you were using it as a learning tool :)  sudo apt-get install irssi ;)
[20:47] <one_matthias> hi bluetooth or ati x1400 help ..
[20:47] <snypzz> thank you...
[20:48] <ubotu> snypzz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:48] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[20:48] <Bradley> hello, i just installed Ubuntu, but i cant see windows
[20:48] <Bradley> how do i set up GRUB so i can see windows
[20:48] <Bradley> ???
[20:48] <baal> ttotally i don't know where i can find additional software ?
[20:48] <ubotu> ommegang: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba lowlux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <nickrud> aww
[20:48] <maybeway36> Bradley: can you see a FAT or NTFS volume in fdisk -l?
[20:48] <D-Unit> it says virtualbox virtualbox graphical user interface version 1.5.6 (2004-2008 innotek GmbH)
[20:48] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: if I do that all this effort was done for nothing and yeha ive been wanting to stepup my ubuntu skills so thats why im compiling from source.. some would say its just madness
[20:49] <stefan_> D-Unit: okido
[20:49] <one_matthias> Bradley:  what do you mean windows ???
[20:49] <stefan_> D-Unit: have you set-up a shared folder in virtualbox?
[20:49] <Bradley> maybeway36: what do u mean, in linux under the live CD i was just testing it out... but now it wont boot WINDOWS
[20:49] <maybeway36> Bradley: you installed ubuntu?
[20:49] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: not madness at all, or I wouldn't be paying attention at all this afternoon
[20:49] <D-Unit> stefan_, i dont no wat happened but now i cant even boot the virtual xp!
[20:49] <maybeway36> !paster
[20:49] <maybeway36> !paste
[20:49] <ttotally> baal, there's some package called basic-files, not that but something like that --- does anyone know what it's called
[20:49] <Bradley> maybeway36: i am trying to get it to see a partition i made for it, but now Windows wont boot.... no i just ran the LIVE cd
[20:50] <Bradley> maybeway36: can we talk here #livecd
[20:50] <dompedro> Chousuke --> you are incorrect about viruses, please try to open your mind and not confuse newbie's trying linux.  active viruses exist in linux and are commonly called shell scripts, root kits, trojans, etc....notice i did not say "worm"
[20:50] <maybeway36> Bradley: weird... sure
[20:50] <PriceChild> !test
[20:50] <one_matthias> anyone that can help with bouetooth or ati x1400 ...
[20:50] <hellues> http://paste.debian.net/50740
[20:50] <hellues> compiz doesnt wokr
[20:50] <Chousuke> dompedro: those are not viruses.
[20:50] <hellues> how can i fix this error
[20:50] <woden> How do I tell if I am running 64-bit Ubuntu?
[20:50] <Chousuke> dompedro: they're just malware.
[20:50] <stefan_> D-Unit: lol, you broke it?
[20:50] <Azodon> will the 64bit ubuntu 7.10 runn the same appps i have now on my 32 bit install, i have dual core 64-bit, currently it uses both cores in 32bit. At least according to the gnome system monitor
[20:50] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: true say, just found this online im guessing it way more than what im going to use my client for but could you explain in plain newb english why would anyone want that - http://garion.org/irssi/irssi-proxy.php
[20:51] <stefan_> D-Unit: anyway, you can set-up a shared folder in virtualbox, then acces the shared folder inside the xp virtual machine
[20:51] <baal> thx i try to find something like that
[20:51] <Chousuke> dompedro: there's nothing inherently dangerous about shell scripts either. I use them a lot
[20:51] <D-Unit> stefan_, well i did erase my 32-bit 7.04 and put 64-bit 7.10 (now im on 7.10 32 bit)
[20:51] <Flannel> Azodon: You will.  The only issues you'll have are things that aren't Free.  Flash, etc.  Although there are workarounds for that too
[20:51] <Pelo> Azodon, same apps shold work but be aware that 64bit does not have flash and there are missing restricted drivers
[20:51] <julian__> hi anybody here can help me with some asoundrc config? http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/74113/ there is my asoundrc and after putting that, and trying speaker-test -D 6 its working every channel is seperated, BUT the OSS emulated dsps are not isntalled... how can i get them to work?
[20:51] <woden> How do I tell if I am running 64-bit Ubuntu?
[20:51] <Chousuke> dompedro: in fact, you're using them too, as many are part of the core system :)
[20:51] <stefan_> D-Unit: the virtualbox help file explains how to adress the shared folder in the virtual xp machine :)
[20:51] <Azodon> hrm , i uses flash alot, and gave not had luck with gnash
[20:51] <Pelo> woden, did the install cd say amd64 ?
[20:51] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: for me to pull that off I thought an actual proxy is needed liek one you own (if thats even possible) or one found online except for those public ones
[20:52] <D-Unit> stefan_, k, ill check it later? i have to eat like soon..so ya by and thx
[20:52] <aut0mata> Azdon: gnash isnt quite there...i'd stick with adobe
[20:52] <stefan_> D-Unit: enjoy :) bye
[20:52] <Pelo> Azodon, I know there is a work around installing 32bit ff and libs but I have never tried it
[20:52] <Ergo^> im having problem with firewall (firestarter), cant share samba resources when firewall is on (i added SMB ports in firewall)
[20:52] <usse1> woden: uname -m
[20:52] <Azodon> pelo : thankyou i will look into it
[20:52] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: it is a proxy itself, you can connect instances of irssi to it as needed, locally or remotely. I guess it'd be nice on a net machine that's always up, so your connection to a server is permanent
[20:53] <usse1> Ergo^: firestarter is a bit quirky with samba
[20:53] <Flannel> Azodon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[20:53] <woden> usse1: x86_64
[20:54] <Ergo^> the share doesnt show up in places/network  - when i disable firestarter it shows up
[20:54] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: hmm i guess maybe in the furture but not now, I dont think i'll be able to afford my electricity bill especially since it has gone up once again and dont forget the uni debt that must be paid back :(
[20:54] <woden> usse1: so what does that mean?  my kernel is 64-bit?  but what about all my programs?
[20:54] <usse1> Ergo^: try disabling broadcasts from external networks in preferences->advanced options
[20:54] <holycow> does ubuntu have backports, particularly for broadcom an dother drivers?
[20:54] <ttotally> baal, "first install the build-essential and checkinstall packages" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ
[20:54] <usse1> woden: your kernel and all your programs are 64bit unless you manually installed 32bit programs not from repositories
[20:55] <Ergo^> usse1 should i diable or enable ? its disabled now...
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: my pass is not recognised when using su whats the otherway to go root?
[20:55] <maybeway36> sudo -i
[20:55] <mandrig> Pirate_Hunter: sudo
[20:55] <dompedro> Chousuke --> a virus is code, or more simply a piece of code meant to run a specific function, those pieces of code exists for every operating system on Earth, anyone ignorant of that fact is well...you get the picture.  The reason more viruses exist for Microsoft Windows is due to the fact that there are MORE Windows machines than linux machines, people who do not understand what a virus is or what to watch for will only have a zombied linux box within n
[20:55] <woden> usse1:  hmm ok I guess if you say so
[20:55] <SeanInSeattle> Good afternoon all!  Does anyone have experience with the linux equivalent to a Windows Startup folder (to start apps upon login)?
[20:55] <baal> ttotally, thx
[20:56] <Pirate_Hunter> mandrig: on its own its not acceptable
[20:56] <usse1> Ergo^: it should be disabled
[20:56] <ttotally> np
[20:56] <SeanInSeattle> Good afternoon all!  Does anyone have experience with the linux equivalent to a Windows Startup folder (to start apps upon login)?
[20:56] <holycow> don't listen to dompedro
[20:56] <Chousuke> dompedro: no. a virus must also replicate itself.
[20:56] <holycow> thats wrong
[20:56] <usse1> Ergo^: there was a thread on ubuntuforums about firestarter and samba
[20:56] <Azodon> the download says ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso , but the website said AMD/Intel . will this "ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso" work on my Intel?
[20:56] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: sudo -i , better
[20:56] <marko-_-> how do i send messages through ssh to others users who are logged in ?
[20:56] <Chousuke> dompedro: it also attaches itself to other files. Most linux malware doesn't do that.
[20:56] <holycow> the reason most viruses for windows are because users have always run those systems as root
[20:56] <steve__> hello i need help installing flash player for xubuntu..
[20:56] <woden> anyone play neverwinter nights on ubuntu?
[20:56] <steve__> it wont install properly using terminal as root
[20:56] <mandrig> Pirate_Hunter: I thought you would be running a command, like sudo apt-get, immediately after.
[20:57] <holycow> if you run windows as restricted user the viruses don't go away, but you get pretty close
[20:57] <Ergo^> usse1: thank you it worked fine
[20:57] <Chousuke> dompedro: most linux malware consists of trojan horses.
[20:57] <Chousuke> dompedro: which are not viruses.
[20:57] <dompedro> Chousuke --> shell scripts are bad in the hands of malicious people, just like...guns are used by good people, but are used at times by bad people to take someone's property very quickly without a fight....a shell script can accomplish just that.
[20:57] <Chousuke> dompedro: I know this.
[20:57] <holycow> also the only difference between a virus and regular code is that a virus by definition wants to replicate
[20:57] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: system prefrences sessions
[20:57] <rawrakitten> steve , Yes, and microsoft developers are idiots because they make it so you can't go root temporarily.
[20:57] <holycow> if it doesn't replicate its not a virus
[20:57] <holycow> then its classified by its utility
[20:57] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: yeha thanx i was trying si which is complete gibberish and mandrig even knowing I said that i still used it to run command make install
[20:58] <usse1> Ergo^: did it? take a look here second post from the top http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190542&highlight=samba+windows+unauthorized+access
[20:58] <holycow> the generic categorization is if the code works against the user and for the benefit of the author its called malware
[20:58] <usse1> Ergo^: cause fix I gave didn't work for me
[20:58] <Chousuke> dompedro: any piece of software you run on a computer can do that also.
[20:58] <holycow> otherwise its called software
[20:58] <holycow> thus windows is malware as well
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> dompedro,  Chousuke   can you move that discussion to offtopic room..
[20:58] <steve__> can somebody help me install swf-player?
[20:58] <miranda82> hello
[20:58]  * nickrud backspaces
[20:59] <ttotally> sda1 is bootable and has xp on it, and sda2 is another xp partition, i installed ubuntu on sda3 and set it as "/" in the partitioner. but the default grub is trying to find the kernel on sda1/boot/ which doesn't exist
[20:59] <miranda82> is there any way, to mount as a drive, a camera that is connected via usb? i need to access the memory card
[20:59] <dompedro> Chousuke --> you are a freaking troll - something that replicates itself is a worm...god-dangit - I hate ignorance!
[20:59] <Chousuke> dompedro: I'm not ignorant.
[20:59] <nickrud> !stop | dompedro Chousuke
[20:59] <xsystemx> jrib - thanks !
[20:59] <holycow> dompedro: wrong
[20:59] <CapaH> I am about to buy an Iphone. My question is, does anyone know if wine+itunes will successfully activate it? I have been told I need either a MAC or WINDOWS to activate the iphone. Anyone?
[20:59] <stefan_> offtopic guys =)
[20:59] <Stwange> !stop | Stwange
[20:59] <nickrud> still dead. holycow Chousuke dompedro last warning
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> dompedro,  Chousuke   can you move that discussion to offtopic room..   NOW
[20:59] <ttotally> i edited grub so it looked on (hd0,2)/boot and then the ubuntu logo came up but then nothing
[20:59] <stefan_> steve__: you mean flash for say, firefox :) ?
[20:59] <ttotally> any ideas?
[20:59] <CaymanAlligator> worms duplicates itself through a network, specifically
[21:00] <holycow> nickrud: or what?
[21:00] <CaymanAlligator> viruses generally through files
[21:00] <Chousuke> dompedro: if you want to present an argument, move to offtopic and I will counter you.
[21:00] <xsystemx> Anyone here ever had problems getting VirtualBOx to detect dvd rom drive?
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> CaymanAlligator, Stop
[21:00] <miranda82> is there any way, to mount as a drive, a camera that is connected via usb? i need to access the memory card
[21:00] <CaymanAlligator> oops, okay. sorry
[21:00] <Thirsteh> miranda82, after inserting the camera, type 'dmesg' and look for any indication of the device address (something like /dev/sda1), then do something like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/some-folder'
[21:00] <nickrud> holycow: the big sweeping boot comes into play. I hate that with a passion
[21:00] <holycow> lol
[21:01] <miranda82> Thirsteh, thx for replying, the problem is that dmesg does not show anything like that,
[21:01] <holycow> leave me out of your comments, i wasn't talking to you and i only made 2 or 3 statements
[21:01] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: after running sudo make install i get some error at the end but have no clue what it means, could you look at it please  - http://pastebin.ca/934430
[21:01] <miranda82> Thirsteh, shows: [  860.544000] Inbound IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:19:d2:35:b3:23:00:1c:10:4e:1e:74:08:00 SRC=38.103.50.145 DST=192.168.1.110 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=46 ID=56999 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=42576 DPT=49643 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[21:01] <andy_> who me
[21:01] <SeanInSeattle> lordleemo:  I'm running IceWM, Is there a file that I can edit?
[21:01] <ttotally> in the partitioner, am i supposed the set the root partition as /media/sdax/ or just delete the /media/sdax entry and replace it with "/"
[21:01] <dompedro> Jack_Sparrow --> kindly ask others not to provide new Ubuntu/linux users with wrong information, such as there is no need for AV in linux and that none exist
[21:02] <ArthurArchnix> rather than opening up a terminal, running gconf-editor, and browsing to the key of interest, is there some way to cat the key?
[21:02] <bartmon> Hi again. For Java devs out there: NetBeans or Eclipse? TY!
[21:02] <Thirsteh> miranda82, if dmesg doesn't show anything at all, then I'd guess either USB is disabled in your BIOS or your camera is inserted in a USB slot that doesn't work (if you're using a USB hub on the front of the case, try the USB ports on the motherboard instead)
[21:02] <cbrake_away> can someone suggest how to build and install zaptel-source?
[21:02] <andy_> hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:02] <soho> i want to run a script at startup. where should i put it that it is loaded?
[21:02] <miranda82> Thirsteh, the camera works i am able to download the images usign gnome importer, the problem,  is to mount it as a drive
[21:03] <phoenix5002> Is it possible to somehow revert to the same video driver that Ubuntu gave me originally when I installed it?
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dompedro,  Not another word...
[21:03] <ArthurArchnix> I want to type one command in the terminal that will return the value of this key: /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default
[21:03] <stefan_> phoenix5002: what did you install to replace that
[21:03] <dompedro> Jack_Sparrow --> fine.  issue closed for me...back yo why I was here originally then...thanks.
[21:03] <holycow> where does broadcom firmware need to reside if i extract it out of their packages?
[21:04] <stefan_> phoenix5002: restricted? compiled your own driver?
[21:04] <_Oz___> does anyone know a way I can restart and send a command to grub (at the time I hit restart) that I want to restart in a certain OS, rather than waiting for GRUB?
[21:04] <phoenix5002> stefan_ I havn't yet, but I had trouble in the past with other drivers so I want to make sure I can get back to where I am now if it happens again
[21:04] <Thirsteh> miranda82, it'd need to be mounted for you to be able to get anything off of it. Try typing 'mount' in a shell and check if it's on that list and is already mounted (probably at the bottom of the list)
[21:04] <Chousuke> dompedro: I can tell you why you're wrong if you move to offtopic.
[21:04] <bartmon> soho: put your script in /etc/init.d/ and then create a symlink to it from /etc/rcX.d/ where X is the runlevel you want xyour script to execute on
[21:04] <ttotally> cbrake, won't the usual way work?
[21:04] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: here's where you learn how to look for files and the packages they live in, on packages.ubuntu.com
[21:04] <miranda82> Thirsteh, it's not
[21:04] <cbrake> ttotally: which is .. :-)
[21:04] <Azodon> the download says ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso , but the website said AMD/Intel . will this "ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso" work on my Intel?
[21:04] <phoenix5002> stefan_ but I will be installing the ATI linux mobility drivers
[21:04] <cbrake> ttotally: dpkg-buildpackage?
[21:04] <stefan_> phoenix5002: backup your current xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/
[21:04] <amortvigil> how can i kill the firefox browser?
[21:05] <Azodon> xkill
[21:05] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok
[21:05] <soho> bartmon; thanks, which is a good runlevel, can i put it in runlevel 1?
[21:05] <stefan_> phoenix5002: if things break, just put that file back :)
[21:05] <holycow> killall firefox-bin
[21:05] <holycow> its dumb yes
[21:05] <codyzapp> hi, hate to bother, my buddy has a problem with his system, he has basic ubuntu. when he installed the reccomended updates it told him to reboot and when he hits the ubuntu loader it loads the kernel and goes black on the screen. any of this yall head of before? help is appreciated.
[21:05] <bartmon> _Oz___: How can you expect to interact with a program that is not yet running?
[21:05] <phoenix5002> stefan_: I've already done that, but will that actually revert to my previous Driver?
[21:05] <Thirsteh> miranda82, 'tail -f /var/log/dmesg' then disconnect and reconnect the camera, there really should be a message
[21:05] <ttotally> cbrake, have you got the tar.gz file?
[21:05] <dompedro> *anyone* - "switch user"
[21:05] <dompedro> I get the logon screen for xerver without getting the option to switch to a different account already logged on...the option was working with ubuntu 6.06 but is not working in ubuntu 7.10...is there something i need to configure, does anyone have a link to a forum post, internet link?
[21:05] <miranda82> Thirsteh, the message is: [  860.544000] Inbound IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:19:d2:35:b3:23:00:1c:10:4e:1e:74:08:00 SRC=38.103.50.145 DST=192.168.1.110 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=46 ID=56999 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=42576 DPT=49643 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[21:05] <_Oz_> bartmon: I expect it via the magic of simple code
[21:05] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: the problem is what package am i looking for how do i identify it?
[21:05] <phoenix5002> stefan_: just seems like it will reset video settings not driver, but if it will reset the driver than that is excellent :)
[21:05] <Thirsteh> miranda82, that has nothing to do with USB
[21:06] <cbrake> ttotally: /usr/src/zaptel.tar.bz2
[21:06] <miranda82> i know
[21:06] <_Oz_> bartmon: for example, send a little code to GRUB that GRUB looks for on reboot and auto-selects an OS
[21:06] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: see the file that it said it couldn't find, at the end of the pastebin? that's the one you're looking for. Use the find files in packages
[21:06] <_Oz_> bartmon: can't possibly be that hard
[21:06] <stefan_> phoenix5002: xorg.conf holds the configuration for which driver to load for the video card
[21:06] <soho> bartmon; is this also working with a script that should run on shutdown?
[21:06] <bartmon> soho: I don't really know. You should consult a wiki or the forums for that
[21:06] <phoenix5002> stefan_ so when I install a new driver it doesn't overwrite my old one?
[21:06] <MikeT> I've, for a while now, been trying to get my microphone working. Which a couple days ago i did. but when i restarted my computer it just stop working, all i get is static... Any ideas? I mainly use it inside of woW to talk to friends. If you need any more information just let me know...
[21:06] <Flannel> soho: What does the script do?
[21:06] <bartmon> soho: Yep, i think runlevel S is the one
[21:07] <stefan_> phoenix5002: ah, you're planning to update the ati driver?
[21:07] <miranda82> Thirsteh, dmesg does not show anything, but I get the gnome asistant to import the pictures, that is the problem
[21:07] <nickrud> !runlevel
[21:07] <dompedro> *anyone* - no sound
[21:07] <dompedro> how can I re-initialize sound under ubuntu - all hardware is found correctly and drivers installed in ubuntu 7.10, but no audio, after some updates my audio quit
[21:07] <ttotally> cbrake, unpack it with bunzip <xxx.bz2>, then tar xvf <xxx.tar>, cd to to the zaptel directory and read the README ... it's easy from there
[21:07] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: you mean glib 2.0
[21:07] <ttotally> cbrake, oops .. use bunzip2, not bunzip
[21:07] <codyzapp> anyone had loading issues after installing the reccomended updates?????
[21:07] <cbrake> ttotally: ok, thanks
[21:07] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: no, settings.c:30:28: error: default-config.h: No such file or directory
[21:07] <bartmon> _Oz___: oh, you should edit menu.lst then! It's in /boot/grub/. Then change the timeout value to 0 and be sure to select the correct entry to boot.
[21:08] <soho> Flannel; because of the lack of /dev/random to create random numbers when no mouse/touchpad is moved i need some entrophy pool information to be carried across shut-downs und start-uos
[21:08] <mandrig> does anyone have problems with firefox running ungodly slowly?
[21:08] <bartmon> mandrig: Yes, if you have a gazillion tabs open :)
[21:08] <dmiles_> Hi, everybody. I just set up a dchroot environment using instructions on the ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575) but I'm getting "Error: Can't open display:" when I try to run firefox (or xclock)
[21:08] <dmiles_> anybody run into that before?
[21:08] <soho> Flannel; otherwise /dev/random secured swap hangs until some action is being made
[21:08] <mandrig> bartmon: Nope, no extra tabs open.
[21:09] <soho> bartmon; thanks
[21:09] <Darkmystere__> dompedro, would you happen to have a Toshiba labtop with digital sound..?
[21:09] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i saw that but it cnat find it but what is supposed to be there and what cant it find I actually dont get the output
[21:09] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: sorry mate was away whats up
[21:09] <dompedro> i have two HPs and a Thinkpad with sound
[21:09] <dompedro> no Toshibas
[21:10] <bartmon> soho: Found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList
[21:10] <miranda82> Thirsteh, the only thing i can get, from kern.log that might give a clue is: http://pastebin.com/m4a6d5fe1
[21:10] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: did you use the 'search the contents of packages' for the file it said didn't exist
[21:10] <bartmon> soho: also, runlevel S isn't for shutdown, sorry.
[21:11] <soho> bartmon; well, but thanks for the info i'll take a look at that
[21:12] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: you mean this is the file settings.c:30:28:?
[21:12] <beautifulsnow> Hello, I've had this game working under Wine 100% for months, and just today it won't work anymore (I haven't made any changes to my system and I also played GW yesterday night so....) (Yes Ive checked with #wine but they cant help)
[21:12] <SeanInSeattle> lordleemo:  I'm running IceWM, Is there a file that I can edit?
[21:12] <stefan_> wine updated... I'm having the same problem
[21:12] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: what file is it saying it can't find? default-config.h
[21:12] <stefan_> apparantly, the update broke something
[21:13] <SeanInSeattle> lordleemo:  I found the x windows startup file, I think:  http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/XWindow-User-HOWTO-5.html
[21:13] <stefan_> you can try to revert back to the previous version
[21:13] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: i dont use it hang on ill google m8
[21:13] <beautifulsnow> stefan_:  the same problem as me regarding Guild Wars?
[21:13] <miranda82> Thirsteh, any clue?
[21:13] <beautifulsnow> stefan_: I haven't made any updates.
[21:13] <stefan_> uninstall wine, grab the previous version from winehq.org and try again
[21:13]  * RabidWeezle finishes installig all of windows 3.11 for workgroups in vmware
[21:13] <RabidWeezle> yes I was THAT bored
[21:13] <stefan_> beautifulsnow: hm, I had the problem after the update
[21:14] <usr13> need to make copy of CD... ?
[21:14] <BizMan> hey guys, im running an apache server, on ports 80 and 443, and i ahve portfowarded those ports.... i can access the page no probelm on my internal network
[21:14] <BizMan> outside i cant
[21:14] <BizMan> any ideas
[21:14] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: is that the  ~/.xinitrc file
[21:14] <Thirsteh> miranda82, no, sorry, I'd look through available devices in /dev or any references to new devices in the kernel log, but right now I'm not in Linux so can't give you anything concrete off the top of my head
[21:14] <beautifulsnow> stefan_:  but thats the most logical help ive got today, so Im gonna check it out anyway lol thanks  *wink*
[21:14] <_Oz___> bartmon: now you're talking.  Now to complete the circle, I simply need to find a little program that will do that for me automatically in the GUI.
[21:14] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok now i get it, its that i actually dont know how to read it which makes understanding of what is happenign seriously hard and I went to packages and no match for that so that means its something that was left out on the install but now how can I find it
[21:14] <nickrud> BizMan: does your isp block those? (assuming the forwarding is good)
[21:14] <SeanInSeattle> lordleemo:  Yep.
[21:14] <stefan_> beautifulsnow: good luck :)
[21:14] <usr13> How's the easiest way to copy a Ubuntu CD/
[21:14] <usr13> ?
[21:14] <StrangeCharm> my hard drive is encrypted per the 7.10 installer. i need to back up my system to an image so that I can replace my hard drive (with an identical one). what's the right way to do this
[21:14] <miranda82> Thirsteh, k, thx anyway
[21:15] <BizMan> possible
[21:15] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: next step is to google that error line
[21:15] <BizMan> should i change them in the conf. file?
[21:15] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: ok m8 hope you sort it m8
[21:15] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok i bet you know the answer already
[21:15] <bartmon> _Oz___: Do you personally don't want to edit a text file or do you need a GUI solution for other users?
[21:15] <dompedro> i guess i will grow old as dirt waiting for *anyone* to respond to questions, here
[21:15] <BizMan> what are good port ranges to use?
[21:16] <bruenig> dompedro: this is #ubuntu after all
[21:16] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: and, that's a dead end. No, I'm reading a reginald hill novel, listening for the drumroll when you type my name ;)
[21:16] <dompedro> *MODERATORS* - can i suggest you guys make an advanced topics/questions forum on IRC?
[21:16] <dompedro> this sux!
[21:16] <beautifulsnow> dompedro:  what was the question uh, I was trying to get help myself, let me know what it was ;p
[21:16] <SeanInSeattle> lordleemo:  What's m8?
[21:16] <beautifulsnow> SeanInSeattle: m8 is mate
[21:17] <StrangeCharm> SeanInSeattle: it mean 'mate'
[21:17] <rawrakitten> Does anyone know if Envy autoconfigures the 7800GTX drivers well in Gutsy?
[21:17] <StrangeCharm> *means
[21:17] <bartmon> BizMan: I find it highly unlikely your ISP blocking port 80. Are you sure you port forwarded to the correct internal IP?
[21:17] <Ward1983> does anyone know how i can use the vista bootloader instead of grub? (grub cant handle fakeraid)
[21:17] <_Oz___> bartmon: I want a "reboot into XP" or "reboot into Ubuntu" button basically
[21:17] <lordleemo> SeanInSeattle: pal friend etc etc being polite
[21:17] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: your right it is a dead end the error line gives me nothing going to clear some of it and see if google picks anything up otherwise i cant continue
[21:17] <StrangeCharm> what's a good way to backup my system?
[21:17] <SeanInSeattle> lol.  kewl.  sorry.  I live in seattle, and we don't speak aussie.
[21:17] <_Oz___> bartmon: I want a "reboot into XP" or "reboot into Ubuntu" button basically
[21:17] <SeanInSeattle> At least not very much.  :0
[21:17] <_Oz___> bartmon: surely I can't be the only one who needs this
[21:17] <NemesisD> anyone know of any other common tape tools besides tar? I have a tape i'm trying to get data off and tar, tar w/ bzip and gz don't seem to be able to get anything off of it
[21:17] <mandrig> Darkmystere: were you having an issue with your toshiba sound?
[21:17] <dereks> how do i turn compiz off in hardy?
[21:17] <StrangeCharm> SeanInSeattle: you clearly need to learn a new language
[21:18] <StrangeCharm> :p
[21:18] <Flannel> dereks: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[21:18] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: have you run make by itself, or are you doing make install right after configure? If you are doing the latter, do make clean and then make
[21:18] <dereks> Flannel: thanks
[21:18] <bartmon> _Oz___: Surely not, but I guess most other people don't have a problem with selecting the correct entry form the GRUB menu
[21:19] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: right after cofigure like the install file states while in root.. im guessing thats the problem
[21:19] <StrangeCharm> _oz___: do you mind waiting until the 're' bit happens, then hitting the 'boot into' button?
[21:19] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: not sure myself. I gotta step out for a holf hour,  bbl
[21:19] <RoAkSoAx> !logitech
[21:20] <RoAkSoAx> !webcam
[21:20] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: kk will tyr to sort this out otherwise continue next time
[21:20] <StrangeCharm> _oz___ you could use a script that rewrote your grub file to put the right os at the top of the list each time :p
[21:20] <Pirate_Hunter> is this command correct sudo make cleaninstall?
[21:21] <bartmon> StrangeCharm, _Oz___: yeah, but instead just rewrite the default X line in that file.
[21:21] <StrangeCharm> how can i backup (in either an encrypted or an unencrypted state) my system, installed with the encryption option in gutsy, for future restorage?
[21:21] <bartmon> StrangeCharm, _Oz___: otherwise this might break on a kernel upgrade
[21:21] <MatBoy> is there a button command to switch workspaces in gnome ? I can't see my taskbar on the bottom when I'm in my VM
[21:21] <domino> anyone, this is an easy question, i'm new to unix :>, how do i - from terminal - set up partitions? im looking to set up 5 partitions, one on each harddrive, then put them together as one in LVM/ combine as raid
[21:22] <StrangeCharm> bartmon: right, agreed - each button makes the change that boots you the right way
[21:22] <stefan_> MayBoy: Ctrl + Alt + arrow key should do it
[21:23] <limcore> Which sound card (pci, not expensive, not used but from shop, up to 50 usd) should I buy to have alsa output and input working ootb?
[21:23] <bartmon> StrangeCharm: Sure. a little sed command would probably work well.
[21:23] <StrangeCharm> domino: can't you use the installer?
[21:23] <StrangeCharm> domino: the alt-installer disk has awesome disk setup options (though i think that the encryption doesn't work at the moment)
[21:23] <s2a> im in gnome wats the menu editor and how do i open it?
[21:23] <joetotale> hi all.  recently installed 64 bit 7.10 and am having trouble getting my graphics card recognized. leadtek px8800gt. have stfw, installed nvidia driver, & done 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'but now stuck
[21:24] <joetotale> grateful for any pointers
[21:24] <bartmon> s2a: just right click on a menu and select Edit Menus
[21:24] <ttotally> domino, sudo cfdisk
[21:24] <ttotally> man cfdisk for more info
[21:24] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: 0xffe456f8
[21:24] <s2a> k, thx
[21:24] <s2a> bartmon, k, thx
[21:24] <joetotale> StrangeCharm: ??
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: oh, wait, 64-bit: 0xffed00012
[21:25] <domino> thanks ttotally. "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive" :D
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: it's a joke
[21:25] <ttotally> domino, i got that when i forgot the sudo
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: pointers, as in memory pointers, geddit geddit?
[21:25] <joetotale> lol
[21:25] <domino> i did sudo, but i restart to make sure it's ready
[21:26] <joetotale> StrangeCharm: will have to remember that to use on slashdot
[21:26] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: http://xkcd.com/138/
[21:26] <ttotally> domino, is this under ubuntu?
[21:26] <joetotale> :)
[21:26] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all, I'm back.  i was wondering if anyone has experience with making it so that I don't need to sudo all the fricking time.  Can I change my user account access level to root?
[21:26] <StrangeCharm> SeanInSeattle: don't. sudoing is better
[21:26] <domino> yes this is under ubuntu and yes i type: sudo cfdisk
[21:26] <domino> and it gives me the error above
[21:26] <StrangeCharm> joetotale: it's already part of the hive mind
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> SeanInSeattle, not advised
[21:26] <SeanInSeattle> OK, why shouldn't I?
[21:26] <LinuxMonkey> SeanInSeattle: why would you even want to do that, thats just stupid, its like handing your keys to your home to a stranger
[21:27] <ttotally> Jack_Sparrow, but how is it done?
[21:27] <anniku989> prince_jammys: You online?
[21:27] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: If you need a root shell you can use 'sudo -s'
[21:27] <ompaul> farruinn, wrong one - use the -i
[21:27] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  That's all I was looking for.  Thanks!
[21:27] <bartmon> StrangeCharm: An excellent XKCD gem, thanks !
[21:27] <Jack_Sparrow> SeanInSeattle, What are you doing that always needs sudo and hopefully you are using gksudo for gui apps
[21:27] <ompaul> !rootsudo | SeanInSeattle (read that web page)
[21:27] <chi11y> hmm, I've updated to oss4 to get my soundcard to run, but I can select OSS neither alsa, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat"
[21:27] <ttotally> farruinn, thnx
[21:28] <chi11y> sorry for bad explanation, but do anyone have a fix?
[21:28] <SeanInSeattle> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm trying to configure my system, and I'm having to edit a bunch of config files.  At some point I shouldn't need it.  But for now I'm having to do it constantly.
[21:28] <LinuxMonkey> wow im suprized people are so lazy to type 4 characters...lol
[21:28] <farruinn> ompaul: ok, I see the difference, but what is the disadvantage of -s?
[21:28] <ompaul> farruinn, it is not -i so what env have you got? you don't know
[21:29] <farruinn> ompaul: ok, I see what you mean
[21:29] <bullgard4> LinuxMonkey: I am surprised that you are too lazy to type a single letter 'r'.
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> SeanInSeattle, ok you run sudo nano once or gksudo gedit once and do what needs to be done..
[21:29] <ompaul> SeanInSeattle, go to wiki.ubuntu.com put in the search field rootsudo
[21:29] <ttotally> domino, this probably won't help, but try "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda1" or sda1
[21:29] <BizMan726> whats a good replacement for port 80 so i can run apache
[21:30] <BizMan726> from outside my home network
[21:30] <SeanInSeattle> Jack_Sparrow:  Cool.  That's probably a better solution.  Thanks for not just poking fun at my "dumb" request.
[21:30] <ompaul> BizMan726, that question lacks a lot of context
[21:30] <bluewraith> where is the setting for "focus follows mouse" in ubuntu? using xubuntu right now and kinda dig it
[21:30] <Pirate_Hunter> whats the command to clean make install?
[21:30] <BizMan726> there are 2 ports
[21:30] <bruenig> make clean
[21:30] <BizMan726> 80 and 443
[21:30] <StrangeCharm> LinuxMonkey: not quite
[21:30] <BizMan726> whats generally a good port range
[21:30] <domino> it did, ttotally
[21:30] <BizMan726> thats accepted by isps
[21:30] <ompaul> BizMan726, 80 is standard and 443 is for ssl enabled web
[21:30] <LinuxMonkey> well I may make spelling mistakes, but i got an excuse, im french
[21:31] <chi11y> hmm, I've updated to oss4 to get my soundcard to run, but I cant select OSS neither alsa, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:"
[21:31] <BizMan726> its standard but i need to change it if its blocked
[21:31] <chi11y> "Could not open resource for writing."
[21:31] <domino> ttotally so... if a make a partition on each of these drives, how do i span them/ raid / whatever, make them -> 1 disk
[21:31] <ompaul> BizMan726, then no one outside will know where to point their browser and it may be just your router is blocking it check out NAT
[21:32] <macrobad> BizMan726: According to RFC, from 43000 to 65000 are private ports that anyone can use for any purposes.
[21:32] <ttotally> domino, i don't know
[21:32] <bullgard4> I wonder if all lines of the file /etc/default/udftools are commented out per default? I obtain the boot message: "Not starting udftools packet writing. No devices listed in /etc/default/udftools"
[21:32] <StrangeCharm> bartmon: i so rarely get any opportunity to put my encyclopaedic knowledge of xkcd to use :(
[21:34] <domino> :(
[21:34] <amortvigil> what is the best ubuntu program to design logo's?
[21:34] <high-freq> use gimp or somethin
[21:35] <farruinn> amortvigil: take a look at inkscape too
[21:35] <BizMan726> anyone?
[21:35] <farruinn> BizMan726: you can put it on any port, but web browsers will only try to connect to port 80
[21:35] <ttotally> has anyone ever made something other than sda1 the root "/" in partitioner. i made sda3 the root and the default grub was messed up
[21:35] <phoenix5002> can someone please tell me what series the "Radeon IGP 345M" video card falls under?
[21:35] <beautifulsnow> Could anyone help me figure out what is wrong with this: Been running Guild Wars for months on Wine and now, no matter what, Guild Wars won't show on the screen (the GW updater works fine, but when its time for the game to start it just "hides" on the background)
[21:35] <cjones> everytime i try a live cd i gett a tty error job control turned off
[21:35] <stefan_> macrobad said - BizMan726: According to RFC, from 43000 to 65000 are private ports that anyone can use for any purposes.
[21:36] <beautifulsnow> amortvigil: definately Inkscape
[21:36] <phoenix5002> can someone please tell me what series the "Radeon IGP 345M" video card falls under?
[21:36] <farruinn> ttotally: sda3 is my root, you just need to edit the menu.lst
[21:36] <bartmon> ttotally: sure, i have hda2
[21:36] <ttotally> barnie, farruinn thnx
[21:36] <farruinn> ttotally: Just remember sdaN is hd0,N-1 for grub
[21:36] <macrobad> BizMan726: According to RFC, from 43000 to 65000 are private ports that anyone can use for any purposes. However, if your provider blocks incoming connections, he is most likely to block all. Also, if you change your port you'll have to tell all the users the new port number, otherwise they won't be able to access your web server.
[21:36] <amortvigil> beautifulsnow, thanx
[21:37] <chi11y> hmm, I've updated to oss4 to get my soundcard to run, but I cant select OSS neither alsa, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing. " I really need to get this working :(
[21:37] <farruinn> BizMan726: 8080 is a common alternative port, but I don't know if browsers check there automatically if they can't connect to 80
[21:37] <ttotally> farruinn, i changed (hd0,0) to (hd0,2) and it seems to have found the /boot directory, and the ubuntu logo comes up, but then it hangs
[21:37] <farruinn> ttotally: doesn't sound like a grub problem at all then
[21:38] <cjones> what does cant access tty job control turned off mean
[21:38] <phoenix5002> how can I find out what series my radeon mobility card is in?
[21:38] <macrobad> farruinn: you are right, but I doubt they are checking 8080.
[21:38] <chi11y> no one with any idea? :(
[21:38] <stefan_> if it's the 345 I think it's the R300 series
[21:38] <farruinn> macrobad: right, so it's still like you say, the users will have to know about it
[21:39] <phoenix5002> stefan_: do you mean the X300 series?
[21:39] <ttotally> farruinn, well, just the first thing, the (hd0,0), was a grub problem ... xp is installed on sda1. any idea why ubuntu isn't booting completely?
[21:39] <mneten> snypzz: clamtk works well for me
[21:39] <stefan_> phoenix5002: by series I assumed you meant chipset series
[21:39] <mneten> woaaaah, stupid scroll bar
[21:39] <farruinn> ttotally: no idea. You'd have to turn off the boot splash to get some messages. I don't know how to do that
[21:40] <stefan_> phoenix5002: IGP 345 right?
[21:40] <phoenix5002> yes
[21:40] <_richard> hi, ive got a couple of questions, any1?
[21:40] <ttotally>  farruinn okay, thnx .. i think there's a kernel option "splash" or something like that .. i'll try turning it off
[21:40] <phoenix5002> stefan_: well I'm about to update the driver now so I go to the website and click "Linux x86" then "Mobility Radeon" then there is a big list like "Mobility Radeon X1400" "Mobility Radeon X300" ect.....
[21:40] <domino> pls can't someone help me with this? :> got 3 disks that i need to make into 1
[21:40] <stefan_> phoenix5002: ah, you're looking at the radeon drivers
[21:40] <phoenix5002> stefan_: yes
[21:41] <phoenix5002> stefan_: is that not right?
[21:41] <j_humphrey> wheres a good guide to compile a new kernel for gusty?
[21:41] <stefan_> phoenix5002: hang on then, let me check :)
[21:41] <phoenix5002> stefan_: my card is "Radeon IGP 345M"
[21:42] <fat-head> ive installed kubuntu and when trying to update kubuntu with adept manager it downloads the files but when it installs them it gets to 53% of the files but then it crashes and give an error that some files might be corrupt and have caused a break. this has happened 2 times i had to wash my hard drive after the first time and then reinstalled kubuntu again but now i have the same problem
[21:42] <domino> #kubuntu :>?
[21:42] <bullgard4> I wonder if all lines of the file /etc/default/udftools are commented out per default? I obtain the boot message: "Not starting udftools packet writing. No devices listed in /etc/default/udftools"
[21:44] <mandrig> How do you view available wireless networks?
[21:44] <lgolebio> Hi, is it normal that Mplayer shows the error message "gnome screenserver control" ?
[21:44] <tomd123> mandrig:  click on the network icon in the notification area
[21:44] <macncheez3000> mandrig, you should be able to by right-clicking on the network manager applet by the clock
[21:44] <macncheez3000> left-clicking, excuse me
[21:45] <tomd123> lgolebio: I don't thinks errors should be normal
[21:45] <stefan_> phoenix5002: hm, can't seem to find a specifix driver for that chipsset, finding a lot of topic from people with the same problem
[21:45] <_richard> Is there any way to leave brightness at 87% permanent instead of having to fn+key everytime i restart?
[21:45] <lgolebio> tomd123: well films are working with no problem
[21:45] <wigren> windows installer killed my GRUB. How do i reinstall it?
[21:46] <lgolebio> but when the move ends, mplayer shows this message
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[21:46] <joetotale> am trying to get 8800 GT graphic card to be recognised in 7.10.  have run 'nvidia-glx-config enable' as root, but xorg.conf reports board as vesa & runs at 800x600.  my xorg.conf is at  http://pastebin.com/d736ad90
[21:46] <AkumaNoTsubasa> hi all
[21:46] <AkumaNoTsubasa> if I want to remove some files from sources I built (I don't have the makefile anymore to do make uninstall) is there a way to do it properly (without forget files?
[21:46] <wigren> with a like cd?
[21:46] <wigren> sorry live*
[21:46] <tomd123> lgolebio: try to run it in the console and see if it spits out any other information, if so, try to get more information on that type of error, but as long as the videos work, be thankful for that :P
[21:46] <holoduke> can someone tell me what the first steps are too solve ACPI problems (returning from suspend doesnt work)
[21:47] <lgolebio> OK
[21:47] <phoenix5002> stefan_: well my driver actually works well with the one Ubuntu gave me, but I just want to test the new ati mobility drivers to see if they are better, so now that you've told me how to back up my driver all I need to know is what series mobility driver to download
[21:47] <ttotally> farruinn, i got it to work ... grub had also set "root=/dev/hda1" and i don't even have a pata drive in the system
[21:47] <stefan_> phoenix5002: about that, saving xorg.conf will only save you if you try a different driver
[21:47] <stefan_> phoenix5002: if you update a driver, files will be overwritten
[21:48] <stefan_> phoenix5002: rolling back to the previous driver will mean you have to remove the new one and reinstall the previous version
[21:48] <ttotally> farruinn, i changed it to "root=/dev/sda3" b/c my  linux was on that partition, and it worked fine
[21:48] <DonkeyKong101> any1 know y i have no system sounds? music,movies are fine though, so its not the sound card
[21:48] <phoenix5002> stefan_: how do I know if I'm updating or installing a new one?
[21:48] <farruinn> ttotally: ah, so I was wrong, it was grub after all.
[21:48] <phoenix5002> stefan_: I don't mind doing a rollback, how would I do that?
[21:48] <joetotale> i noticed there were problems with the old nvidia driver so have installed NVidia binary X.Org driver ('new' driver)
[21:49] <stefan_> phoenix5002: the one ubuntu gave you is a package created from the ati drivers, so in this case you would be upgrading
[21:49] <loca|> anyone can advise me a good up to date guide to install etch on a usb stick ?
[21:49] <stefan_> phoenix5002: I take it you're using the restricted driver for that chip?
[21:49] <AkumaNoTsubasa> if I want to remove some files from sources I built (I don't have the makefile anymore to do make uninstall) is there a way to do it properly (without forget files? please
[21:49] <phoenix5002> stefen_: I don't think I am using the restricted driver actually...
[21:49] <crdlb> joetotale: none of the drivers in gutsy's repos support the 8800 GT
[21:49] <chi11y> hmm, I've updated to oss4 to get my soundcard to run, but I cant select OSS neither alsa, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing. " I really need to get this working :(
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> joetotale, Did you read the first 10 lines of your xorg?
[21:50] <phoenix5002> stefen_: the only restricted driver I see is "atheros hardware access layer (HAL)" but I think that's for wireless connections
[21:50] <ttotally> farruinn, seems like this ought to be mentioned in the installer instructions ... the same thing happened to me the other day ....
[21:50] <jaek> is there an unstable repository for compiz fusion for gusty?
[21:50]  * joetotale feels a right nit
[21:50] <crdlb> jaek: nope
[21:50] <chi11y> I'm using Creative X-fi so I know it "shouldnt" work, but oss4 is supposed to have some kind of support, but I cant choose oss because of this
[21:51] <amortvigil> beautifulsnow, i get this unable to open gcc error using inkscape
[21:51] <amortvigil> pyxml
[21:51] <crdlb> jaek: hardy has latest compiz fusion though
[21:51] <amortvigil> beautifulsnow, actualy running installing pyxml instead of inkscape
[21:52] <joetotale> crdlb: thx for pointing that out. off to follow up
[21:52] <stefan_> phoenix5002: okido, trying to locate which driver you should use now
[21:53] <phoenix5002> stefan_: thanx :)
[21:53] <bullgard4> I wonder if all lines of the file /etc/default/udftools are commented out per default? I obtain the boot message: "Not starting udftools packet writing. No devices listed in /etc/default/udftools"
[21:53] <chi11y> no one who can help me?
[21:53] <chi11y> I've desperate for help :/
[21:53] <chi11y> *I'm
[21:53] <farruinn> chi11y: have you tried the forums or mailing list?
[21:53] <juank_prada> has anybody been able to install DBdesigner in ubuntu?
[21:54] <chi11y> farruinn, nope, but I've searched around on the internet and there seems to be no solution
[21:54] <chi11y> I'll try the forums
[21:54] <RickJames> i have ubuntu 7.10 installed and added a fat32 drive with files on it. is there a "convert" feature i can use to convert to ext or another FS that will support file size over 4 gig ?
[21:55] <stefan_> phoenix5002: from what I know, the radeon driver (included with the installation) work with that chipset
[21:55] <juank_prada> RickJames, you culd make a backup of that fat32 drive and format it to ext3
[21:55] <stefan_> phoenix5002: I can't find any reference to which drivers you should use for that chipset though :)
[21:55] <RickJames> juank_prada, there is no convert option like with m$?
[21:56] <bruenig> RickJames: you don't convert filesystems with few exceptiosn, certainly not fat32, you backup, reformat, and put it back on
[21:56] <phoenix5002> stefan_: ok, but if I do try a different driver how would I get back to my current driver if there are problems?
[21:56] <mandri1> my desktop is non-existent
[21:56] <bruenig> exceptions*
[21:56] <ttotally> RickJames, or possibly you could resize the fat32 partition and repartition the freed space
[21:56] <juank_prada> RickJames,  i think bruenig answerd your question
[21:56] <phoenix5002> stefen_: assuming that the backup xorg.conf file fails
[21:56] <RickJames> windoez allows for convert c: ntfs. i was hoping ubuntu had a similar option
[21:57] <stefan_> phoenix5002: save xorg.conf... if things fail first uninstall your newly installed driver (make uninstall if installing from source), then place back your old xorg.conf
[21:57] <RickJames> thanks anyways guys
[21:57] <phoenix5002> stefan_: ok thank you for all your help
[21:57] <stefan_> phoenix5002: or simply do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:58] <phoenix5002> got it, thanx
[21:58] <killown> do anyone here has installed oss4?
[21:58] <stefan_> phoenix5002: which will rebuild your xorg.conf file :)
[21:58] <holycow> if i wanted to add all the latest multimedia in one shot to a gutsy fresh install (its for another user, i don't have a lot of time), what is the fastest way fo doing this?
[21:58] <holycow> prefereable in one apt-get line?
[21:59] <Parsec300> holycow: If you add VLC player, you can play almost anything.
[21:59] <juank_prada> Parsec300, VLC is the best player ever!
[22:00] <macrobad> holycow: add medibuntu repo, and install win32codecs + dvdcss + flashplugin..
[22:00] <domino> ok i got a new question :> FATAL: Module raid0 not found <- how do i fix this?
[22:00] <holycow> vlc doesn't use restricted codecs i guess, it comes with its own?
[22:00] <holycow> macrobad: aha danke
[22:00] <_richard> Is there any way to leave brightness at 87% permanent instead of having to fn+key everytime i restart??
[22:00] <holycow> thank you Parsec300 as well
[22:01] <juank_prada> _richard, set that on your bios
[22:01] <macrobad> holycow: tis my pleasure. :) And Ubuntu VLC doesn't come with restrited codecs, afair.
[22:01] <ryan_> Hey, question.
[22:01] <chi11y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4478222#post4478222
[22:01] <mandri2> umm, <alt> <f2> isn't opening the launcher anymore, and my desktop is loading
[22:01] <ryan_> I want to rename a whole bunch of files so that they no longer have spaces in them.
[22:01] <question> ryan: Yes?
[22:01] <ryan_> Is there any way to do that quickly?
[22:02] <ryan_> I've been trying to use the replace command, but I've had difficulty.
[22:02] <_richard> My second HDD partition is set to /home/richard/Documents, i can't write to that folder, how to do it?
[22:02] <mark[oz]> hey guys, vote for tab+tilda - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3921/  Its an easy way to alt+tab through application windows
[22:02] <ttotally> ryan_, what replace command?
[22:03] <ryan_> Oh
[22:03] <ryan_> Sorry, I meant rename.
[22:03] <danbhfive> _richard: what format is it?
[22:03] <domino> _richard: sudo chmod 777 /home/richard/Documents ? :>
[22:03] <macrobad> ryan: I cannot think of anything better then writing a small script or program in any language.
[22:03] <_richard> danbhfive ext3, you mean that?
[22:03] <ryan_> Do you know if there's a way to rename files in C++ or C?
[22:03] <danbhfive> _richard: yeah
[22:04] <gharz> guys, is there any software that i can use in creating reports from SQL? like a visual studio equivalent?
[22:04] <macrobad> ryan: Sure. However, I'd advise PHP, Perl or Python, unless you have experience with C or C++.
[22:05] <ryan_> I've done a little Python, but I'm used to C and C++.
[22:05] <ryan_> I imagine this would be easiest in Perl. Regex and all.
[22:05] <heartsblood> what's the channel for hardy, ubuntu+1?
[22:05] <ryan_> Anyway, I'll figure it out.
[22:05] <danbhfive> _richard: maybe adding rw in the options of your fstab
[22:05] <ryan_> Thanks for the help.
[22:06] <danbhfive> !hardy > heartsblood
[22:06] <cjones> what is a good channel for help with kino
[22:06] <bruenig> the easiest way to do it is bash
[22:06] <bruenig> oh he's gone
[22:06] <porcho> hi there. I'm having some problems with postgresql 8.3 in ubuntu gutsy. I've just installed it and I can't connect to the server. when I look at postgresql-8.3-main.log, it says "incomplete startup packet" at the bottom line. can somebody help me?
[22:06] <bruenig> for file in *; do mv "$file" "$(tr -d ' ' <<<$file)";done
[22:06] <anniku989> I'm getting a "DCOP communications error"
[22:07] <heartsblood> Danbhfive, I didn't get anything but I found the channel
[22:07] <anniku989> says "plz check that the 'dcopserver' program is running
[22:07] <BruceLeroy> I'm running gdm and my main session has Compiz enable. Can I define a separate session which does NOT user compiz?
[22:07] <eegore> I am trying to restore grub after a windows install but I do not have a normal drive configuration. I ahave my Kubuntu 64 on a sata and my windows  on primary ide
[22:07] <gharz> guys, any idea which software that has an equivalent features like visual studio? i'm planning to do my reports on linux...
[22:08] <Li-Plus> which directory do pidgins plugins go
[22:08] <tasius> hi
[22:08] <eegore> the kubuntu64 boot is non /dev/sdc1
[22:08] <cjones> what is a good channel for help with kino
[22:08] <anniku989> anyone know of any GOOD dj/mixing programs (Such as mixmeister for windows/mac) without using wine?
[22:09] <serena> hi there... just wondering if I got a .exe file with the device driver that I need for a device can I do anything with it?..... like unpack it?
[22:09] <cjones> assiku989 ubuntu studio has it all
[22:09] <anniku989> so
[22:10] <andy_> this is so bored
[22:10] <anniku989> sudo apt-get install ubuntu studio ? Or is it already installed?
[22:10] <mandrig> My wireless card doesn't start at startup, is there a way to make it start?
[22:10] <stefan_> serena: try running it with wine and extract it that way :)
[22:10] <porcho> serena: most likely, there's nothing you can do with it. if it's a wireless device driver, you may use it somehow with ndiswrapper, though...
[22:11] <serena> its a webcam driver
[22:11] <heartsblood> Does anybody know if gutys will see the new compiz package?
[22:11] <tasius> hi
[22:12] <archman> mandrig: did you do depmod -a and modprobe <ndiswrapper/or ...> ?
[22:12] <heartsblood> gutsy*
[22:12] <gharz> guys, anybody here who's building reports from sql? i just want to know if there's a software for linux where i can retrieve data from MS Sql and generate reports like a visual studio? any info?
[22:12] <und3va> hi, can anyone help me regarding  ttl changing ?
[22:12] <abstrak> Anybody know how to get the remote controller of the pctv 310i card working ?
[22:12] <archman> mandrig: i've done it and it starts up on startup
[22:12] <porcho> serena: so you'd better checkout its chipset and look for a linux driver...
[22:12] <mandrig> okay, I'll restart and see
[22:13] <abstrak> I cannot get any button pressed event ... nothing... please help me
[22:13] <serena> porcho: how do I check its chipset?
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> Does the brainstorm.ubuntu.com site use my launchpad account? or do I create a new one?
[22:13] <danbhfive> heartsblood: no
[22:13] <juank_prada> what package do i need to import my ssh key to seahorse?
[22:13] <heartsblood> :(
[22:14] <gregbrady> anyone familiar with dvd::rip?
[22:14] <peleg> Is it possible not to have tasksel on 7.10 ?
[22:14] <asaf> how come i don't have tasksel? i've upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 three months ago...
[22:14] <danbhfive> heartsblood: its not sad, it really just the way things go.  They way Ubuntu includes new software is by having a new release, which is what hardy is
[22:15] <porcho> serena: I think that this website should help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam. it's an easy to follow guide.
[22:15] <bmk789_> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:15] <Stwange> how do I set CLASSPATH for my terminal inside a bash script? CLASSPATH=whatever doesn't work because it's only set while the script is running
[22:15] <beautifulsnow> Could anyone help me figure out what is wrong with this: Been running Guild Wars for months on Wine and now, no matter what, Guild Wars won't show on the screen (the GW updater works fine, but when its time for the game to start it just "hides" on the background)
[22:15] <stefan_> though you can still manually compile the new compiz ;)
[22:16] <stefan_> snow: the wine rollback didn't work?
[22:16] <beautifulsnow> stefan_:  Oh hi :) no not really
[22:16] <asaf> how come i don't have tasksel? i've upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 three months ago...
[22:16] <Keule> Hi there
[22:16] <stefan_> shame :(
[22:16] <Keule> is it possible to make konqueror under gnome to my default file-manager??
[22:16] <danbhfive> asaf: try install ubuntu-minimal
[22:16] <Thugacation> hai guise
[22:16] <Thugacation> whats goin on
[22:17] <Thugacation> anyone in here chillin
[22:17] <Thugacation> ??
[22:17] <bmk789_> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs which is a marvell yukon wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:17] <danbhfive> !ot | Thugacation hey there, this is the support room
[22:18] <tushyd> hey, i am running Ubuntu and tried kubuntu-desktop. How do I uninstall kubuntu-desktop and all the associated programs?
[22:18] <Thugacation> !ot | What do you mean by that?
[22:18] <bullgard4> Where can I read a certain manpage in the Internet which is not available on my computer?
[22:18] <mandrig> Who was helping me a few minutes ago with my wireless card?
[22:18] <porcho> hi there. can someone help me with postgresql 8.3 and ubuntu gutsy? I've just installed it and I can't connect to the server. when I look at postgresql-8.3-main.log, it says "incomplete startup packet" at the bottom line...
[22:18] <danbhfive> ubotu?
[22:18] <Yoha> quit
[22:18] <Pirate_Hunter> i need a god app that allows me to do html, xhtml, css, asp etc - can someone recommend something
[22:19] <Pirate_Hunter> *good
[22:19] <Draco> Pirate_Hunter: quanta+ or bluefish
[22:19] <bruenig> Pirate_Hunter: vim
[22:19] <tushyd> can anyone help?
[22:19] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: did you get it working?
[22:19] <macnus> Hi. Im new to ubuntu. Actually I've installed 7.10 today :D Well. Then i want to install apps from the add/remove menu, but when i try to I get this message: The list of applications is not availabe
[22:19] <macnus> Click on 'Reload' to load it. To reload the list you need a working internet connection. Then I press refresh, and it looks like it updates something, but when I then try again, I just get the same message :S can anyoone help me, please?
[22:19] <tushyd> hey, i am running Ubuntu and tried kubuntu-desktop. How do I uninstall kubuntu-desktop and all the associated programs?
[22:19] <bruenig> macnus: apt-get update
[22:19] <danbhfive> ubotu come back!!!
[22:19] <Draco> Pirate_Hunter: vim, with code completion
[22:19] <tushyd> macnus, or synaptic
[22:20] <danbhfive> macnus you need to enable your sources probably
[22:20] <Pirate_Hunter> thanx all
[22:20] <nickrud> tushyd: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[22:20] <usse1> !myself
[22:20] <macnus> Well. Im kind a like a newb in this unix world, so i wouldnt know how to do that :s
[22:20] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter: I did some looking, that file should be part of irssi
[22:21] <bmk789_> tushyd: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[22:21] <bmk789_> nvm
[22:21] <danbhfive> macnus: system > admin > software sources
[22:21] <tushyd> bmk789, nickrud, thanks guys
[22:22] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: 0.0 you've been looking thanx very much appreciated but if it is I have no clue how to include it in the compilation
[22:22] <macnus> danbhfive: Should i then just enable all the boxes?
[22:22] <bmk789> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs which is a marvell yukon wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:23] <danbhfive> macnus: sure, but you dont need source code
[22:23] <mandrig> I need help with my wireless card
[22:24] <mandrig> To get it to start, I have to cd to the dir the drivers are in, the ./wlan0up, can anyone help me so my wireless card will automatically start upon boot?
[22:24] <macnus> Danbhfive: No thats right. Thanks a lot. By the way, do you know a site, with a newb guide, for compiling, if i need to install softwart thats not in the packagemanager?
[22:25] <danbhfive> macnus: no, sorry
[22:25] <tim167> i want to compile libwiimote, but there is no Makefile or configure, there is a install-sh but i don't know how to use it, any ideas ?
[22:25] <danbhfive> mandrig: ndiswrapper?
[22:25] <macnus> danbhfive: well thanks for the help :)
[22:25] <mandrig> danbhfive: I'm not using ndiswrapper
[22:26] <danbhfive> aw well, cant help
[22:26] <mandrig> danbhfive: is ndiswrapper easy to use?
[22:27] <eegore> ?leave
[22:27] <El_Guapo>  /quit
[22:27] <Pakhsi> Hi to all! i was looking for some help with my ubuntu (or gnome dont know) language
[22:27] <danbhfive> mandrig: ndiswrapper doesnt really work in terms of ease of use.  IF you have no linux driver for your wireless card, you can use ndiswrapper to use a windows driver
[22:27] <RoXa> .
[22:27] <mohamed_> amenado, i'm sorry i become busy at home this is take time from me, :)
[22:27] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of the fortune thingy on ubuntu?
[22:28] <mandrig> danbhfive: Oh, okay.
[22:28] <mandrig> danbhfive: Well, I have a linux driver, so it works.
[22:28] <mnemo> Itaku: the wanda fish you mean?
[22:28] <Itaku> no /usr/games/fortune
[22:28] <bmk789> could anyone explain why one of my built in NICs which is a marvell yukon wouldnt even show up under lspci?
[22:28] <peleg> what can cause tasksel to crush just a second after trying to install lamp-server?
[22:29] <Pakhsi> I'm on ubuntu gutsy 7.10 and im having a problem with my language someone to help :)?
[22:29] <Gnea> bmk789: is it enabled in the BIOS?
[22:29] <bmk789> Gnea: yes
[22:29] <peleg> it shows 0% for a second, and then closes down. on 7.10
[22:29] <holycow> goddamn, thats it.  no more totem.  EVER.
[22:29] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[22:29] <archman> mandrig: what is your interface's name?
[22:29] <Gnea> bmk789: how many NIC interfaces do you have? just the one?
[22:29] <Itaku> !language | holycow
[22:29] <zack> hello ha
[22:29] <zack> new on xchat here
[22:29] <holycow> screw off
[22:30] <zack> pls deal with leniancy
[22:30] <holycow> goddamn isn't bad language
[22:30] <bmk789> Gnea: theres 2, the other is an nvidia but it works great
[22:30] <danbhfive> Itaku: ubotu is dead
[22:30] <gregbrady> woohoo!  DVD Shrink works with Wine!
[22:30] <Itaku> ...
[22:30] <Itaku> typical
[22:30] <sarthor> Hi, I am using ubuntu server 7.04, i have 80 Clients on my LAN, Can i creat user passwords for that users to dial my server? if yes what i will need to install and configure on my server? my clients are using windows xp, 2000 and some Linux also
[22:30] <Li-Plus> how do i remove a package and the packages that it recommends removing "the ones that are no longer needed"
[22:30] <Gnea> bmk789: what number do you get from this command: lspci | grep Ethernet | wc -l
[22:31] <danbhfive> Li-Plus: autoremove
[22:31] <Li-Plus> danbhfive: how do i use autoremove is it a flag?
[22:31] <archman> Li-Plus: dont remove them; you will maybe have problems later
[22:31] <soundray> Li-Plus: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[22:31] <Li-Plus> archman: I installed ubuntu studio and i don't want it
[22:31] <bmk789> Gnea: just a sec
[22:31] <intardnet> how do i have openoffice start counting page numbers on the third page, not the first?
[22:31] <archman> Li-Plus: oh, ok then, sorry
[22:31] <soundray> Li-Plus: to remove a package, 'sudo apt-get remove packagename'
[22:32] <Gnea> bmk789: ok
[22:32] <Dantes> hello, how do i get the history of the chat that was going on in a channel?
[22:32] <spiderfire> Dantes: what are you using?
[22:32] <Dantes> mirc client
[22:32] <Gnea> Li-Plus: should be: sudo apt-get autoremove packagename
[22:32] <Dantes> standard
[22:32] <Pakhsi> Hi someone can help me with a language problem?
[22:33] <Gnea> Pakhsi: what's the problem?
[22:33] <Dantes> spiderfire: is there a way?
[22:33] <carlosgutierrezs> hablo español
[22:33] <DIL> intardnet:  try inserting pages from the page you want to start numbering
[22:33] <inaety> how can i give permission to k3b to open discs when wrtiting cd's.   after i start burning a cd it gives me an error it has no permssion to open the disc
[22:33] <spiderfire> Dantes, sure but i dont use mirc
[22:33] <soundray> Dantes: some channels are logged on the web. Read the channel topic
[22:33] <DIL> intardnet:  page numbers that is
[22:33] <spiderfire> Dantes: look under options or settings
[22:33] <Dantes> how do i access these logs?
[22:33] <intardnet> DIL: tried it, thats why im here  ;-)
[22:33] <Gnea> !es
[22:34] <DIL> intardnet: standby
[22:34] <Pakhsi> gnea español?
[22:34] <soundray> inaety: in a terminal, run 'sudo adduser $USER cdrom', then log out of gnome/kde and log back int.
[22:34] <soundray> *in
[22:34] <Gnea> Pakhsi: english-only here
[22:34] <Pakhsi> ok
[22:34] <inaety> soundray: thanks ill give it a try
[22:34] <Gnea> Pakhsi: #ubuntu-es
[22:34] <bmk789> Gnea: 1
[22:35] <nicolah> I don't get it: I mounted an hdd and I can write just using sudo, how can I fix it ?
[22:35] <Pakhsi> gnea: my problem is that afeter installing dont know which libraries
[22:35] <Gnea> bmk789: is it a laptop or desktop?
[22:35] <inaety> soundray: it says im already a member
[22:35] <bmk789> Gnea: desktop
[22:35] <s2a> i have a .rpm on my desktop wat is the command to turn ALL .rpm's on desktop to .debs using alien?
[22:35] <Gnea> Pakhsi: installing what? ubuntu itself?
[22:35] <Pakhsi> nono i've been there without succes i speak encglish :)
[22:35] <soundray> inaety: then you probably have to run k3bsetup
[22:35] <spiderfire> is there a difference between generic and 386 kernel or are they the same with a different meta name?
[22:35] <dan_> dude , I'm so stupid
[22:35] <Gnea> Pakhsi: oh ok good :)
[22:35] <Flannel> spiderfire: they're different.  Use the generic unless you have problems with booting
[22:35] <soundray> !generic | spiderfire
[22:35] <dan_> I loaded this ubuntu and I dont know shit about linux
[22:35] <farruinn> s2a: wherever you'd put foo.rpm, use the wildcard *.rpm
[22:35] <administrator> #FOOLISH.CR3W
[22:36] <Pakhsi> nono, my ubuntu-desktop worked perfectly until i installed dont know what librarie, and my language go mad
[22:36] <Gnea> bmk789: built yourself or is it a dell, etc?
[22:36] <soundray> dan_: please use family-friendly language here
[22:36] <kane77> anyone can help me start tor relay? (and will it even work when I'm behind nat?)
[22:36] <s2a> farruinn, wats a wildcard?
[22:36] <administrator> join #FOOLISH.CR3W
[22:36] <bmk789> Gnea: built myself
[22:36] <Gnea> bmk789: what's the make/model of the mobo?
[22:36] <dan_> ok
[22:36] <Pakhsi> gnea:now i have half english half spanish system
[22:36] <dan_> sorry about that
[22:36] <farruinn> s2a: the * - so *.rpm means anything that ends with .rpm
[22:36] <Li-Plus> how can i remove every program in my multimedia folder
[22:36] <bmk789> Gnea: winfast NF4SK8AA
[22:36] <adorablepuppy> dan_: You really don't need to know much. Just know that if you're a gamer, you're going to be disappointed and confused as to why windows binaries don't work on linux.
[22:36] <s2a> farruinn, so wat would be the exact command i put in?
[22:36] <yuji_> and if you use up to date adobe products : (
[22:37] <yuji_> I'd kill for adobe to work flawlessly on linux
[22:37] <s2a> farruinn, im using alien if that was of any mystery
[22:37] <dan_> I'm just trying to set up cool desktop themes and for some reason I cant do it
[22:37] <intardnet> DIL: got it
[22:37] <Thugacation> whats #foolish.crew
[22:37] <eddie> Is there a plugin for audacious for play pause, etc on the tray?
[22:37] <Thugacation> aa
[22:37] <Thugacation> bb
[22:37] <farruinn> s2a: I don't have alien installed, but my guess would be alien *.rpm. check the documentation for it
[22:37] <Thugacation> cc
[22:37] <Thugacation> dd
[22:37] <yuji_> dan_ what is the problem?
[22:37] <Thugacation> thats how you do it
[22:37] <FloodBot2> Thugacation: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <Thugacation> if you dont do it in that order
[22:37] <spiderfire> yuji_: why not just join gimp forces?
[22:37] <arooni> hey folks!  i cant see my windows mobile phone on vbox (non free version) .... it doesnt show up on the usb menu... is there something i can do on gusty to prevent it from auto detecting and disabling it or something?
[22:38] <Gnea> bmk789: and you're sure that you enabled the marvell in the bios? could be an irq conflict - can you pastebin the output of: cat /proc/interrupts
[22:38] <s2a> farruinn, is it alien ~/Desktop/*.rpm?
[22:38] <intardnet> had to do with sections.  i inserted a page break, and had it restart the page numbers, then moved the content up to start at page 1
[22:38] <netopalis> Haldo...I've got a really weird problem with my Java in Ubuntu....I've got Java installed, but neither firefox nor any user-installed apps seem to be able to use it
[22:38] <Thugacation> hey
[22:38] <Thugacation> why did i just get flooded
[22:38] <netopalis> It could just be the fact that I'm a newbie at Linux, though
[22:38] <Thugacation> i wasnt flooding
[22:38] <Thugacation> that is mesed up
[22:38] <Thugacation> the bot banned me
[22:38] <Thugacation> for what reason
[22:38] <holycow> arooni #virtualbox or something is the right channel for that question unfortunately
[22:38] <Thugacation> thats so dumb
[22:38] <Flannel> !enter | Thugacation
[22:38] <Pakhsi> gnea:soime idea?
[22:38] <Thugacation> whats that mean
[22:38] <acee1234> i added conky to session to make it start at logon but then compiz treated it like a window and it was always ontop for some reason. if i start it manually after boot everything if fine any ideas?
[22:38] <arooni> holycow, is ther ea way to know that gutsy even saw the device being connectedc
[22:38] <LinuxMonkey> Thugacation: instead of SPAMMING please type it in 1 line
[22:38]  * v3ctor thinks he might get booted for flooding again
[22:38] <Thugacation> how come people keep saying !enter and !ot to me
[22:38] <soundray> Thugacation: you are using enter for punctuation
[22:39] <farruinn> s2a: yep, that should work from any directory. As long as we've got the alien command right
[22:39] <Thugacation> it doesnt do anything
[22:39] <bmk789> Gnea: just a second
[22:39] <holycow> arooni lsusb
[22:39] <dan_> When I go to System > Preferances >Appearance > and select the Visual  Effects Tab, I get The Composite extension is not available error messages
[22:39] <sarthor> Hi, I am using ubuntu server 7.04, i have 80 Clients on my LAN, Can i creat user passwords for that users to dial my server? if yes what i will need to install and configure on my server? my clients are using windows xp, 2000 and some Linux also
[22:39] <intardnet> Thugaction: it means that you keep typing things in small strings
[22:39] <Gnea> Pakhsi: looking
[22:39] <Thugacation> thats how i do
[22:39] <Pakhsi> okk
[22:39] <netopalis> Anyody able to help me with the problem?
[22:39] <Thugacation> im going to jerk
[22:39] <Thugacation> later fellas
[22:39] <intardnet> Thugacation: well, it floods the channel and makes it hard to read...
[22:39] <netopalis> I'll alert the media, Thug
[22:39] <Thugacation> vsey
[22:39] <Thugacation> dont be mad at me
[22:39] <arooni> holycow, ok so heres a problem.... ubuntu doesnt even see the usb device
[22:39] <Thugacation> later
[22:39] <arooni> holycow, should i do something?
[22:40] <holycow> no, its either broken or its using a proprietary protocol
[22:40] <holycow> if its a winmachine you are guaranteed that its using something not open and not friendly
[22:40] <arooni> holycow, but i have seen it work before!  i have seen the usb device show up on virtual box before that is
[22:40] <holycow> i.e. you are tied into a windows machine
[22:40] <DIL> intardnet: u here
[22:40] <Dantes> how can i check the channel chat logs in IRC? I wasn't in the channel, and it doesn't show-.
[22:40] <Dantes> is this recorded on a server somewhere?
[22:40] <^4nDr3s> netopalis, try doing sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[22:40] <intardnet> DIL: still here, fixed it
[22:40] <arooni> holycow, should i restart ubuntu?
[22:40] <Pirate_Hunter> I found a site that shows all the popular apps from automatix what a joyful night it has become ive been looking for this since i started using ubuntu
[22:40] <dan_> How do I get my windows settings to change to flames when I close them ?
[22:40] <DIL> ok
[22:40] <kmg> Hey, is there something wrong with my sources.list? all my sources are timing out: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:40] <Flannel> Dantes: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[22:40] <arooni> holycow, and if so should the usb device be plugged in
[22:40] <holycow> arooni you can try chances are it won't help
[22:41] <holycow> thats alos possible
[22:41] <soundray> arooni: what kind of device is it? Is it listed in lsusb output?
[22:41] <arooni> holycow, but virtualbox detected the device before!
[22:41] <holycow> some devices have passive usb that has to be powered internally
[22:41] <arooni> soundray, windows mobile 6.0 phone
[22:41] <arooni> soundray, currently it doesnt show up in lsusb ... but vbox has seen it before
[22:41] <bmk789> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/m62817a95
[22:41] <DIL> intardnet: insert fields ?
[22:41] <soundray> arooni: it should work. Make sure the guest system has focus while you plug it in.
[22:41] <Flannel> kmg: nothing inheritly wrong, no.
[22:42] <mandrig> Can someone help me, I need to autostart my wireless card, and I'm not using ndiswrapper
[22:42] <kmg> Flannel: any idea why my sources are all timing out when i do apt-get update ?
[22:42] <arooni> soundray, i've tried plugging it in every usb port i have and it doesnt show up in lsusb or vbox
[22:42] <moope1> hullo, ubuntu is taking ages to load on boot. It seems to spend a long time looking for resume images. Any one know how to fix?
[22:42] <Flannel> kmg: Are they all timing out? or just some of htem?
[22:42] <soundray> arooni: maybe your host system captures it and isolates it from the guest
[22:42] <Gnea> bmk789: hrm. have you tried booting the system with the pci=routeirq flag?
[22:43] <arooni> soundray, how can i stop that
[22:43] <bmk789> Gnea: ill try it now
[22:43] <mandrig> Can someone help me, I need to autostart my wireless card, and I'm not using ndiswrapper
[22:43] <Gnea> bmk789: ok
[22:43] <kmg> Flannel: I think it's all of them, it takes a really long time to time out, and it's gone through most of the list so far
[22:43] <soundray> arooni: vbox settings? Unfortunately I don't know anything about those.
[22:43] <inaety> soundray: no such thing as k3bsetup
[22:43] <intardnet> DIL: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=12237
[22:43] <Gnea> mandrig: you can put the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:43] <Pakhsi> some help with language poblems??
[22:43] <Flannel> kmg: Can you browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com in a browser?
[22:43] <acee1234>  i added conky to session to make it start at logon but then compiz treated it like a window and it was always ontop for some reason. if i start it manually after boot everything if fine any ideas?
[22:43] <kmg> Flannel: yes
[22:44] <Flannel> kmg: Interesting.  No idea, sorry.
[22:44] <kmg> Flannel: thanks
[22:44] <mandrig> Gnea: what settings need to be added?
[22:44] <DIL> ugh!!
[22:44] <soundray> inaety: k3bsetup is part of the standard ubuntu k3b package, so you should have it. It's in /usr/bin/
[22:45]  * cyphase is annoyed when people asking for new features get something like, "You can already do that, just run this command: blah -b -l -a -h /blah/blah/ then edit the config file in /etc"
[22:45] <Gnea> mandrig: have you read any of the wifi documentation yet?
[22:45] <kmg> Does anybody have any idea why all my sources would be timing out when I do apt-get update ? sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:45] <s2a> farruinn, it dint work! does it matter that its 64-bit on a 32 bit os?
[22:45] <Gnea> cyphase: it's a process. can't read minds y'know.
[22:45] <s2a> farruinn, just for the conversion process not to install it
[22:45] <inaety> soundray: well it's not...
[22:46] <moope1> hullo, kubuntu is taking ages to load on boot. It seems to spend a long time looking for resume images. Any one know how to fix?
[22:46] <soundray> inaety: how did you install k3b?
[22:46] <bmk789> Gnea: after booting with that lspci|grep Ethernet is the same
[22:46] <mandrig> Gnea: What wifi doc? I can manually load the drivers by going to the directory and ./wlan0up
[22:46] <amrish007> how to open a file on?
[22:46] <LinuxMonkey> moope1: #kubuntu
[22:46] <inaety> soundray: i can't remember if it came with kubuntu or not.  otherwise i would have just done apt-get
[22:46] <Gnea> !wireless | mandrig
[22:46] <soundray> inaety: try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install k3b'
[22:46] <bmk789> Gnea: /proc/interrupt looks different though
[22:47] <Draco> cyphase: gnome and os x, and even kde now are starting to get this mentality
[22:47] <serena> if I get the .inf file for a certain device would it be possible for someone to create a Linux driver from it?
[22:47] <moope1> LinuxMonkey: I dont think its a kubuntu specific
[22:47] <Gnea> mandrig: give that a go - if it doesn't work, then we'll go through it
[22:47] <inaety> soundray: okay it's going
[22:47] <amrish007> i'm already in the directory
[22:47] <mandrig> !wireless
[22:47] <kmg> Does anybody have any idea why all my sources would be timing out when I do apt-get update ? sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:47] <cyphase> Draco: how do you figure that?
[22:47] <Gnea> mandrig: ubotu is lagging... here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:47] <acee1234> what do you use in ubuntu to create a bash script
[22:48] <Draco> cyphase: well, osx first. then gnome fell, and kde is going to start falling
[22:48] <Draco> cyphase: have you seen some gnome 1.x apps?
[22:48] <serena> anyone?
[22:48] <macrobad> acee1234: any text editor + change properties after that
[22:48] <serena> if I get the .inf file for a certain device would it be possible for someone to create a Linux driver from it?
[22:48] <soundray> acee1234: a plain text editor -- gedit is easy, I prefer emacs
[22:48] <inaety> soundray: k3bsetup still can't be found
[22:48] <cyphase> Draco: umm, no :)
[22:48] <danbhfive> serena: is this for a wireless card?
[22:48] <Malachi> What's a good app for sharing files across a home network? I don't need anything too complex, just something so my family can share files with ease between computers. (Something besides folder shares.)
[22:48] <soundray> inaety: 'ls /usr/bin/k3bsetup'?
[22:48] <BruceLeroy> quit
[22:49] <beautifulsnow> people at #wine are sleeping :P Could someone tell me how I can *completely* remove Wine (so I can reinstall and start fresh).
[22:49] <cyphase> Draco: what about them?
[22:49] <kmg> Does anybody have any idea why all my sources would be timing out when I do apt-get update ? sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:49] <bmk789> Gnea: any ideas?
[22:49] <^4nDr3s> beautifulsnow, sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[22:49] <inaety> soundray: ls: /usr/bin/k3bsetup: No such file or directory
[22:49] <Draco> cyphase: old gnome-terminal is actually more useful than the new one
[22:49] <soundray> beautifulsnow: 'rm -rf ~/.wine ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install wine'
[22:49] <Gnea> Pakhsi: have you read this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreguntasComunes
[22:49] <acee1234> soundray:  macrobad: thank you
[22:49] <soundray> beautifulsnow: deletes all your installed windows programs of course
[22:50] <serena> danbhfive: no.... for a webcam
[22:50] <macrobad> beautifulsnow: you may like to run aptitude search wine | grep '^i.*'
[22:50] <Gnea> bmk789: i'm at a bit of a loss... can you pastebin the output of dmesg?
[22:50] <cyphase> Draco: that's not really the same thing as what i was talking about
[22:50] <genius> how to enable external monitor on Intel GMA 950?
[22:50] <soundray> inaety: 'dpkg -L k3b | grep setup' -- any output?
[22:51] <Draco> cyphase: you used to have to use the command line to edit menus in gnome2
[22:51] <inaety> soundray: no
[22:51] <cyphase> Draco: i'm talking about someone wanting to be able to, for example, easily share a printer with windows machines through samba, and being told "you can already do that. just edit this file and that file, and run these commands.."
[22:51] <cyphase> Draco: i know
[22:51] <soundray> inaety: what Ubuntu version do you have?
[22:51] <kmg> Does anybody have any idea why all my sources would be timing out when I do apt-get update ? sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:51] <JRsup1> Does anyone know how I can putty/ssh from windows into my ubuntu server and create a session that I can log back into from putty/ssh again later from the same or a different machine?
[22:52] <bmk789> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/m7d2016f2
[22:52] <iaeus> JRsup1, screen is your friend
[22:52] <cyphase> JRsup1: i think screen will do that
[22:52] <Draco> cyphase: well, konqueror already has a way to manage that
[22:52] <soundray> JRsup1: use a terminal multiplexer like GNU screen
[22:52] <Keule> can anybody help? How can i make konqueror as my standard filemanager for gnome?!
[22:52] <cyphase> JRsup1: what iaeus said :)
[22:52] <gharz> guys, i work as an analyst and i'm looking for a software which has an equivalent features of a visual studio. is there any software for linux?
[22:52] <cyphase> Draco: but do you see my point?
[22:53] <Draco> cyphase: yeah, there are a lot of things that just haven't been added to any GUI
[22:53] <inaety> soundray: 7.04
[22:53] <inaety> kde 4.0.1
[22:53] <sarthor> Hi, I am using ubuntu server 7.04, i have 80 Clients on my LAN, Can i creat user passwords for that users to dial my server? if yes what i will need to install and configure on my server? my clients are using windows xp, 2000 and some Linux also
[22:53] <cyphase> Draco: it's not even that
[22:53] <Draco> cyphase: sometimes they are an oversight, other times when it goes 8 or so years without... THEN you can pretty much say they don't care
[22:53] <luis__> hello
[22:54] <inaety> soundray: im sorry 7.10
[22:54] <inaety> i have that
[22:54] <gregbrady> Anyone know a good place to get some Ubuntu artwork to make labels out of?
[22:54] <Draco> cyphase: for instance Konqueror has NEVER gotten xslt handling for... 7 years
[22:54] <soundray> inaety: what version of k3b is installed? dpkg -l k3b
[22:54] <kmg> Does anybody have any idea why all my sources would be timing out when I do apt-get update ? sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/934562
[22:54] <iaeus> JRsup1, http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[22:54] <Pakhsi> gnea:nono, ill see it
[22:54] <inaety> soundray: 1.0.3-0ubuntu4
[22:54] <Pakhsi> gnea:im leaving
[22:54] <danbhfive> kmg: can you paste the timeout message?
[22:54] <spiderfire> kmg: maybe slow dns servers?
[22:54] <cyphase> Draco: that's just laziness (not to be mean to the konqueror devs)
[22:54] <JRsup1> when the man page for screen says things like "remember the command C-a" I'm assuming that's Ctrl + a?
[22:54] <Draco> gharz: monodevelop
[22:55] <Pakhsi> gnea:thanks some day we continue
[22:55] <iaeus> kmg, i'd comment each of them out
[22:55] <iaeus> kmg: then isolate the one thats timing out
[22:55] <kmg> danbhfive: http://pastebin.ca/934582
[22:55] <Draco> cyphase: it's worse than laziness, people have spent more time arguing than it would have been taken to add the proper libmagic and set associations
[22:55] <Dont_Panic_42> does anyone know of a good source of running software raid setup of
[22:56] <kmg> man, is that the same one timing out over and over again?
[22:56] <kmg> shit.
[22:56] <DIL> www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30859
[22:56] <Dont_Panic_42> combining raid 1 and 5 ?
[22:56] <soundray> inaety: I'm stumped. I can't see any reason why this package would install without k3bsetup
[22:56] <GwaiLo> raidz is where it's at... but you won't be using ubuntu for it
[22:57] <sarthor> Hi, I am using ubuntu server 7.04, i have 80 Clients on my LAN (UTP cable + Wireless), Can i create user passwords for that users to dial my server? if yes what i will need to install and configure on my server? my clients are using windows xp, 2000 and some Linux also
[22:57] <danbhfive> kmg: er, thats a big dns problem
[22:57] <macrobad> kmg: try mine if that helps: http://pastebin.ca/934584
[22:57] <inaety> soundray: hmm i see. ill try gnomebaker.  i've had this issue on other installs as well
[22:57] <bmk789> Gnea: should i have grepped the dmesg for anything?
[22:57] <kmg> danbhfive: =C  i can't tell which domain that IP is from
[22:57] <soundray> inaety: not finding k3bsetup, or the one you reported here at first>?
[22:57] <kmg> oh wait it's the canonical one
[22:58] <danbhfive> kmg: what is your current ip?
[22:58] <danbhfive> kmg: can you try: dig archive.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <inaety> soundray: umm the same issue however k3b told me to run k3bsetup.  right now it's not telling me to do anything so i assumed k3bsetup was found
[22:58] <Gnea> bmk789: try this from a commandline:  ip a   is there anything other than lo and eth0 there?
[22:58] <kmg> danbhfive: seems to work fine
[22:58]  * andy__ waves
[22:59] <bmk789> Gnea: just lo and eth0
[22:59] <Bruno_> could you install mac OS X on a virtual hd and sync an ipod touch from there?
[22:59] <danbhfive> kmg: whats it say?
[22:59] <kmg> my external IP is 69.62.147.68, but i'm behind a router
[22:59] <mandrig> Gnea: when I  sudo ifdown eth0, I get 'interface eth0 not configured'
[22:59] <Keule> can anybody help? How can i make konqueror as my standard filemanager for gnome?!
[22:59] <Scunizi> Bruno_, maybe
[22:59] <kmg> danbhfive: http://pastebin.ca/934590
[22:59] <rico42955> any chan for getting help compiling quake source on gutsy?
[22:59] <lch> hi
[23:00] <Gnea> mandrig: what wifi card are you using? make/model?
[23:00] <lch> I am trying to use a digital projector with my ubuntu installation
[23:00] <lch> it does display the desktop quite nicely
[23:00] <fabio> Keule: konqueror for gnome ?
[23:00] <mandrig> Gnea: its a realtek, I'm not sure of model.
[23:00] <soundray> inaety: I've just installed the package here, and it came without k3bsetup, too. Seems my apt-file database is out of date. Apologies for misleading you.
[23:00] <Keule> right
[23:00] <gregbrady> mandrig:  success with your sound card yet?
[23:00] <lch> but strangely, it doesn't display any video I am trying to play
[23:00] <danbhfive> kmg: are you using dns caching?
[23:00] <fabio> Keule: are you mad ?
[23:00] <Keule> nautilus sucks
[23:00] <Keule> nope fabio
[23:01] <lch> neither on the projector, nor over a VNC connection
[23:01] <Gnea> mandrig: usb/pci/minipci/pcmcia?
[23:01] <fabio> i'm using dolphin instead of konqueror
[23:01] <Pirate_Hunter> i want to install skype but the skype website only has it for feisty fawn & debian etch so can someone provide me with an update version of skype for gutsy
[23:01] <inaety> soundray: no problem...maybe it's a different package
[23:01] <Keule> i dont like dolphin fabio
[23:01] <kmg> danbhfive: i don't believe so, I'm using a public dns server as far as I know
[23:01] <lch> can somebody tell me what I have to do to be able to play videos on the projector, too?
[23:01] <Scunizi> Pirate_Hunter, http://www.getdeb.net
[23:01] <andy__> does anyone know if you can download internet explorer 7 for ubuntu?
[23:01] <Keule> fabio - or any other filemanager
[23:01] <mandrig> Gnea: I believe pci
[23:01] <danbhfive> kmg: whats your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[23:01] <lch> I tried the default media player, VLC and Kaffeine with no luck
[23:02] <macrobad> andy__: Why?
[23:02] <kmg> danbhfive, but i do have a dns server setup on this computer, it's not currently running
[23:02] <Keule> but i dont get a solution to make it possible
[23:02] <soundray> inaety: well, k3b used to come with that setup, but it doesn't any more. BTW, there is a newer k3b in backports
[23:02] <fabio> what is wrong with nautilus ?
[23:02] <Scunizi> andy__, you can try ies4linux.. google it. but it's not the full package.. mainly used just for testing.
[23:02] <Gnea> Pirate_Hunter: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[23:02] <kmg> danbhfive: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[23:02] <bmk789> Gnea: should i go ahead and file a bug in launchpad?
[23:02] <Gnea> mandrig: what shows up for it in lspci?
[23:02] <AutoMatriX> is there sombody here with snort-mysql experience ? I got stuck in the middle of the installation
[23:02] <andy__> hm...
[23:02] <kmg> danbhfive: my router's ip
[23:02] <Keule> fabio: thats not necessary - i like konqueror much mor
[23:02] <Gnea> bmk789: gonna check one more thing...
[23:02] <bmk789> ok
[23:02] <inaety> soundray: should i get the deb from the backports
[23:03] <mandrig> Gnea: PCI express
[23:03] <Keule> fabio: its like the question why vlc instead of mplayer
[23:03] <andy__> does anyone know how to use firefox 3 beta?
[23:03] <mandrig> Gnea: RTL8101E PCI Express
[23:03] <macrobad> andy__: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[23:03] <danbhfive> kmg: hmmm, I'm a little out of my element then.  your router is serving you dns?  i dunno,  yeah, I really dont know
[23:03] <fabio> vlc instead of mplayer ?
[23:03] <andy__> ty
[23:03] <Keule> install - and hav fun? andy__
[23:03] <fabio> Keule yes u are mad
[23:03] <macrobad> andy__: download it and use =)
[23:03] <soundray> inaety: I don't know whether it's worth trying. It could be an issue with your device permissions.
[23:03] <kmg> danbhfive: i'm pretty sure that's the configuration it defaulted to
[23:03] <andy__> i have it loaded with this ubuntu 8.04
[23:04] <Keule> nope fabio - but your saying means - you cannot help me?
[23:04] <AutoMatriX> Keule, exactly what I read in the doc:s
[23:04] <andy__> but it is beyond me
[23:04] <macrobad> Keule: is your problem only how to make it the default one?
[23:04] <Keule> macrobad: jepp
[23:04] <inaety> soundray: i suppose it would be worth trying because k3b is a much more superior program than anything else
[23:04] <fabio> there is a trick you can use for replacing nautilus
[23:04] <Keule> andy__:  you can install version 2 instead of 3beta
[23:04] <fabio> rename nautilus to nautilus.old then ln -s konqueror nautilus (...)
[23:05] <andy__> yea i did that, but what is up with 3?  i get file and edit
[23:05] <macrobad> Keule: I've change the associations some how... let me see if I can remember how. bb in 5 min
[23:05] <soundray> lch: try mplayer -vo sdl yourvideo.avi
[23:05] <Bruno_> Scunizi: is it possible to intal os x on a vm?
[23:05] <andy__> and....uh....im easily lost
[23:05] <kmg> danbhfive: i changed my dns setting to point to 66.60.130.2, a public dns server, and it's still timing out
[23:05] <Keule> send me a message directly.. macrobad
[23:05] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[23:06] <Keule> fabio:  im not that crack - i dont get you
[23:06] <fabio> anyhow mplayer rocks
[23:06] <tuxn8r> Does anyone know a terminal command to return the make & model of a vga monitor connected to a laptop?
[23:06] <soundray> inaety: do you know your burner device name? /dev/something
[23:07] <danbhfive> kmg: it might just be one specific repo, try just using the default repos
[23:07] <bmk789> Gnea: anything else you need me to pastebin?
[23:07] <soundray> tuxn8r: ddcprobe  will do that if you're lucky
[23:07] <tuxn8r> soundray, thanks
[23:07] <brobostigon> Bruno_: use qemu, create a disk image, start the install disks, with the image mounted, install to image, and then run under emulation from that image.
[23:08] <kmg> danbhfive: i'm trying the list pasted by macrobad, and it seems to be connecting to some of the repos, that's with the public dns server
[23:08] <kmg> danbhfive: it's going really slow though
[23:08] <inaety> soundray: k3b says the block device is /dev/scd1
[23:08] <beautifulsnow> Hey if I want to install a barebones ubuntu (using ubuntu server + the most basic-iest gnome necessary) what would I do =^..^=
[23:08] <Bruno_> brobostigon: my discs are pre-intel compatible os x. will it still work?
[23:08] <soundray> inaety: and what permissions do your have on that? ls -l /dev/scd1
[23:08] <soundray> *you
[23:08] <beex> Is it possible to enable a raid 1 array on a desktop installation AFTER I install ubuntu?
[23:09] <strtok> anyone had issues connecting to a cisco device over serial from ubuntu? I've tried it from both my laptop and my 1u
[23:09] <xenthro> my sound card stopped working mid-session... this happens occasionally but can be fixed by a restart. is there a way to restart my soundcard/drivers/sound server without rebooting?
[23:09] <andy__> i have 3 dvds from different companies, only one is able to be played, the others go to audio ts and some other ts, anyone know why?  or what i am talking about?
[23:09] <brobostigon>  Bruno_: just emulate powerpc with qemu
[23:09] <Gnea> bmk789: is that a  NF4SK8AA-8KRS or  NF4SK8AA-8EKRSH ?
[23:09] <Esine> Hey. Anyone know some sort of networked whiteboard program so me and my friends could share drawings easily? you know like how they say IRC is a multiplayer text editor.. but I'm looking for a multiplayer drawing program! We tried Inkscape and Inkboard but it's buggy and doesn't work.
[23:09] <kmg> danbhfive: what's the default repo?
[23:09] <Bruno_> brobostigon: ok
[23:09] <Bruno_> brobostigon: thanks
[23:09] <lch> anybody knows an answer to my video / mediaplayer trouble with the projector?
[23:09] <FreakGuard> i want to change /bin/bash in passwd to /bin/screen -s /bin/bash but it doesn't really work :/ any ideas and workaround?
[23:10] <danbhfive> kmg: system > admin > software sources    and enable the defaults, and disable all the others on the next tab
[23:10] <soundray> Esine: VNC might get you what you need
[23:10] <bmk789> Gnea: i see 8EKRS on the motherboard
[23:10] <inaety> soundray: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 1 2003-05-14 03:51 /dev/scd1
[23:10] <fabio> Keule: open gconf-editor and go to /desktop/gnome/applications/component_viewer/exec
[23:10] <Esine> soundray, well we'd rather not use VNC for something like this..
[23:11] <soundray> inaety: looks fine, so it's not that
[23:11] <fabio> then replace nautilus with konqueror and see what happens; at your own risk since nautilus it's the default
[23:11] <inaety> soundray: are we running out of options haha
[23:11] <macrobad> Keule: Sorry, I don't remember how.
[23:12] <soundray> inaety: have you upgraded to the backports version yet?
[23:12] <Keule> i tryed that one fabio - but it doesnt work
[23:12] <inaety> soundray: no, but i will
[23:12] <fabio> The easy way is to rename nautilus in nautilus.old then create a link to konqueror
[23:12] <acee1234> does anyone know how to get conky to start at logon
[23:12] <soundray> inaety: can you tell me again what the exact error message was?
[23:13] <inaety> "k3b has no permission to open the disc"
[23:13] <inaety> soundray:
[23:13] <fabio> whenever gnome thinks to start nautilus, konqueror gets started
[23:13] <lch> okay, I found out that streaming the video over the projector and even VNC works if I set the output module in VNC to X11
[23:14] <PriceChild> !test
[23:14] <lch> strangely it doesn't work at "Standard"
[23:14] <Ward1983> i folowed this tutorial because grub didnt want to recorgnize a fakeraid array: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
[23:14] <lch> and only plays on the monitor in that case
[23:14] <Ward1983> but now i still get a grug error 17
[23:14] <Ward1983> grub error 17 i mean
[23:14] <wilhart> what was the program to install nvidia on ubuntu?
[23:14] <wilhart> evince?
[23:14] <kmg> danbhfive: it says  it's downloading package information, but looks like it's timing out with the default repos
[23:14] <Keule> ok fabio i will try this - but i dont know how.... but thanx so far
[23:14] <s2a> wilhart, nvidia gfx card drivers?
[23:14] <Ward1983> how can i reinstall grub from the livecd without reinstalling everything?
[23:14] <wilhart> s2a: yes
[23:14] <fabio> Keule it's very simple
[23:15] <s2a> wilhart, envy
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | Ward1983
[23:15] <beex> I'm having a hard time enabling a software raid in my desktop install, has anybody done this successfully?
[23:15] <wilhart> s2a: tnx
[23:15] <soundray> lch: it'll be using some kind of overlay rendering in standard mode
[23:15] <s2a> wilhart, np
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> is ubotu on break?
[23:15] <fabio> sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus.old
[23:15] <PriceChild> IndyGunFreak: yes I'm afraid.
[23:15] <wilhart> s2a: where do i getit? :D
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[23:15] <s2a> wilhart, its not in repositories btw u have to google envy and find the page and download .deb for ur OS version
[23:15] <soundray> Esine: I find the idea compelling, but I don't know of any software that would enable it.
[23:15] <fabio> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/konqueror /usr/bin/nautilus
[23:15] <s2a> wilhart, u want me to find exact paghe or can u find it urself?
[23:16] <bmk789> Gnea: from what i can find its either a 88E8056 or 88E8053
[23:16] <Esine> soundray, hm yeah.. I'm trying it now with Xnest and ssh tunneling..
[23:16] <fabio> type nautilus and konqueror whould pop up, hopefully
[23:16] <ArthurArchnix> PriceChild: The bot is still dead then?
[23:16]  * IndyGunFreak wonders what we will ever do w/o ubotu
[23:16] <ArthurArchnix> poor little guy.
[23:16] <akorn> hey how do i add 4 desktops to my compiz cube again?
[23:16] <fabio> !bot
[23:16] <Fersure> ...
[23:17] <ArthurArchnix> akorn: You need CCSM, then in general find virtual horizontal desktops... or something...
[23:17] <fabio> ubotu is a dead process now
[23:17] <soundray> Esine: that sounds even more painful than VNC
[23:17] <Keule> thx fabio i try
[23:17] <akorn> yea i changed the Number of Desktops to 4 but it's not working
[23:17] <Esine> soundray, well I certainly don't want to share my desktop with anyone
[23:17] <inaety> soundray: installing now
[23:17] <dan_> I found out what was wrong
[23:17] <lch> soundray, I turned overlay off and it still didn't work in Standard
[23:17] <inaety> soundray: installed
[23:17] <ArthurArchnix> akorn: You need cube enabled. And you can't just say " i made the number of desktops 4" ... what's important is where you did that.
[23:18] <dan_> It's in the repository's
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> akorn: Set H=4 V=1 and #desktops=1
[23:18] <lch> soundray, I'll try your sdl tip
[23:19] <soundray> lch: anyway, I think this kind of laptop video setup is a massive cheat by the manufacturers.
[23:19] <akorn> ArthurArchnix yea i've tried a lot of combinations tehy're not working, even tho desktop cube and rotate are both enabled
[23:19] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[23:19] <Ward1983> i folowed this tutorial because grub didnt want to recorgnize a fakeraid array: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
[23:19] <Ward1983> but now i still get a grub error 17
[23:19] <Gnea> bmk789: have you done any bios upgrades?
[23:19] <soundray> lch: what good is a computer these days that can't output all graphics equally on all connected screens?
[23:19] <Ward1983> how can i fix grub?
[23:19] <bmk789> Gnea: no, should i try to upgrade?
[23:20] <akorn> Arthur i just get two desktops
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> akorn: try my suggestion....
[23:20] <mandri1> Gnea: hey, did you come up with anything?
[23:20] <amrish007> how can i intall sun-java SE 6
[23:20] <lch> soundray, exactly... my Gentoo box does it without any problems, plays it right out of the box
[23:20] <ArthurArchnix> akorn: Maybe someone who uses it can help you. I'd try adding a workspace switcher to the panel, mkaing the desktops 1, then removing it, then going into CCSM, the general tab, and making horizontal virtual 4.
[23:20] <akorn> Arthur okay thanks
[23:21] <lch> btw, I don't have mplayer, only totem, vnc and kaffeine
[23:21] <ruzarik> \connect
[23:21] <paarth> looking for a recommendation for a good smtp server
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> akorn: Set the Horizontal = 4, Vertical = 1, and No. of desktops = 1.
[23:21] <inaety> soundray: no k3bsetup, but i can try to burn again
[23:21] <^4nDr3s> amrish007, apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[23:21] <soundray> inaety: that's what I've been trying to explain: recent versions of k3b come without k3bsetup
[23:21] <akorn> Odd-rationale i've tried that it doesnt work, im still stuck with 2 desktops and no "cube"
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> akorn: Do you have ccsm?
[23:22] <soundray> inaety: do let me know what the exact error message is
[23:22] <beex> hello room, would it be possible for me to enable a software raid1 array after I've already installed my system?
[23:22] <ArthurArchnix> I can't find a man page for xserver-xorg-video-intel ... I want to know about which options are valid to pass through xorg.conf for my card... anyone have a link?
[23:22] <inaety> soundray: okay
[23:22] <ArthurArchnix> Specifically, I want to know more about dri.
[23:22] <akorn> Odd-rationale yea i'm using ccsm but i just figured out that i had to add a workspace switcher to the panel, then set columns to 4 and Rows to 1 haha, so random...
[23:22] <killown> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.23-slash4.0$ make prepare  "return error  `missing-syscalls'.  Stop. can anyone help me?
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> akorn: Open it and go to General Options. Then go to the desktop size tab.
[23:22] <Bruno_> brobostigon: how do i mount the image from the install disks?
[23:23] <soundray> beex: in principle it should, but it's not trivial. I have no relevant experience, but I suggest you install mdadm, read the documentation and take it from there. There is a help page about RAID as well...
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> akorn: From there set Horizontal = 4, Vertical = 1, and No. of desktops = 1.
[23:23] <gharz> guys any idea which software for creating reports (pie chart, graph, etc) wherein i can get the data from MS SQL?
[23:23] <mandri1> Gnea: do you know anything I could do about my wireless card?
[23:24] <akorn> Odd-rationale yea it's working now, i had to add a workspace switcher to the panel, set Columns to 4 and Rows to 1...random
[23:24] <munk__> can someone help me? i installed my network wireless card and it never finds networks to connect too...it all seems right when i do iwconfig
[23:24] <inaety> soundray: maybe it wasn't k3b.  "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
[23:24] <akorn> Odd-rationale thanks for the help
[23:24] <beex> soundray: I've been looking, but all I can find is pages for warty.  Do you have any leads?
[23:24] <ArthurArchnix> akorn: That's just my silly way of doing what Odd-rationale was giving specific directions for. You can remove that workspace switcher now.
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> akorn: np. gtg! see ya
[23:24] <akorn> ArthurArchnis yup alrady did that ;)
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> coo
[23:25] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[23:25] <Gnea> mandri1: what driver are you using?
[23:25] <s92302> hey im a bit of a noob, does anyone know how to setup browser hotkeys for firefox in 7.10
[23:25] <soundray> beex: have you seen this: http://wiki.eyermonkey.com/My_Ubuntu_%287.10%29_Installation
[23:25] <akorn> anybody know any themes that only make the panel and its popupmenus black?
[23:26] <mandri1> Gnea: rtl8187
[23:26] <beex> soundray: I hadn't.  Will check now.  Thanks!
[23:27] <soundray> Itaku: System-Administration-Software Sources -- enable Source code. Then 'apt-get source fortune'
[23:27] <Gnea> mandri1: okay, who makes it? using ndiswrapper?
[23:28] <Gnea> bmk789: it needs a floppy drive
[23:28] <Bruno_> !mount
[23:28] <bmk789> Gnea: i could install it from windows but i really dont want o install windows
[23:28] <bmk789> so i guess ill try the floppy method
[23:28] <Bruno_> how do i mount cds?
[23:29] <FFEMTcJ-laptop> Can someone please help me set up evolution with an exchange account?
[23:29] <soundray> Bruno_: they should mount automatically. The setting is in System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[23:29] <Gnea> bmk789: do you know the date of your current bios? latest says 6/30/2007
[23:29] <olivier> c
[23:29] <Bruno_> soundray: ok thanks
[23:29] <bmk789> Gnea: ill check it real quick
[23:30] <Gnea> bmk789: kk
[23:30] <olivier> /part
[23:30] <m0u5e> is there a ntfs fsck util for ubuntu?
[23:30] <m0u5e> or can wine run chkdsk.exe from XP reliably well?
[23:30] <soundray> m0u5e: yes, in the ntfstools package
[23:30] <m0u5e> soundray: thx
[23:30] <Bruno_> soundray: im trying to mount and os x 10.2 instalation disk unto qemu but i dont know how, can you help me?
[23:30] <IndyGunFreak> !bot | IndyGunFreak  yay!! ubotu is back
[23:30] <FreakGuard> got a small problem: root@desktop:~#su dave -c /bin/bash --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
[23:31] <IndyGunFreak> well, he was...;
[23:31] <ibou> is it possible to lose quality on my audio files by making a compressed image of my hard drive ("ghost") ?
[23:31] <bmk789> Gnea: mines from 05
[23:31] <hedpe> ibou: no
[23:31] <mandri1> Gnea: no, not using ndiswrapper, I found it via a tutorial on making wireless work on my laptop,
[23:31] <soundray> Bruno_: I don't think I can, but I could imagine that the disk is HFS rather than ISO9660
[23:32] <Bruno_> soundray: i dont know what that means. qemu askas for a path to boot from cd, but i dont know it. do you know where it normally is?
[23:32] <mandri1> Gnea: Will using ndiswrapper allow my wireless card to start on boot?
[23:32] <ibou> hedpe: Ok. I was not sure because i know that compressing audio files means losing quality
[23:32] <hedpe> mandri1: if you load the module at boot
[23:33] <Scunizi> Bruno_, /media/cdrom0
[23:33] <Pirate_Hunter> whats ubuntu ultimate edition and hows does it differ from normal ubuntu
[23:33] <bazhang> any ideas if Mythbuntu has a PPC edition?
[23:33] <hedpe> ibou: the two types of compression are different, in short... no worries
[23:33] <Bruno_> soundray: Scunizi: thanks
[23:34] <soundray> Bruno_: normally, data CDs are formatted with a iso9660 file system. Some Apple disks have their Hierarchical Filesystem (=HFS) instead. You need to mount these manually with -t hfs
[23:34] <ibou> hedpe: in short... thnaks :D
[23:34] <hedpe> :)
[23:34] <Bruno_> soundray:  ok thanks
[23:34] <soundray> Bruno_: just run 'mount' by itself in a terminal to see if Scunizi is right
[23:34] <Gnea> bmk789: they've got the update on the website - not sure if that'll fix it or not
[23:35] <bmk789> Gnea: worth a try
[23:35] <Gnea> mandri1: it should - not sure if that'll be an option or not - worth a shot though
[23:35] <soundray> !ultimate | Pirate_Hunter
[23:35] <Gnea> bmk789: :)
[23:35] <ArthurArchnix> Can I safely rm mod yenta_socket?
[23:35] <ArthurArchnix> Does that just control pcmcia cards? I don't use those slots on my laptop.
[23:36] <soundray> ArthurArchnix: yes, unless you're using a PCMCIA card
[23:36] <m0u5e> soundray: there's no ntfs-utils in the gutsy archives, do you mean perchance ntfsprogs?
[23:36] <lch> soundray, you are right btw, this is a Laptop setup... how would I configure this properly if it doesn't work out of the box? do I need to activate the second display or what?
[23:36] <Bruno_> soundray: i got this http://pastebin.com/d415f5b05
[23:36] <m0u5e> it seems to have a lot of the tools i need, so i went ahead and got it
[23:36] <ArthurArchnix> soundray: No.. thanks.
[23:36] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: ???? the bot gave nothing
[23:36] <mandri1> Gnea: Alright, I'll research it and ask back if need be.
[23:36] <Gnea> mandri1: good luck
[23:36] <soundray> m0u5e: ntfsprogs, sry
[23:36] <macrobad> ArthurArchnix: Should be safe then.
[23:36] <m0u5e> soundray: np, thanks a lot for the help though ^_^
[23:37] <natbet> my font is all jumbled together in the terminal, how do I fix this?
[23:37] <RedHeron> Pirate_Hunter: Not ultimately forthcoming = !ultimate? ;-)
[23:37] <hedpe> ibou: its kind of like zipping, you can zip up an mp3 and then unzip it and get the same thing... but, since an mp3 is already compressed you'll notice that the zip file will not be any smaller
[23:37] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: sorry, I thought it was back.
[23:38] <soundray> Pirate_Hunter: it used to say something like "ultimate = not recommended, not supported here"
[23:38] <Pirate_Hunter> soundray: :D I found that amusing but yeha kl
[23:38] <soundray> Bruno_: it doesn't look like you have a CDROM mounted
[23:39] <bradley> can anyone help me get the graphical effects on Ubunto
[23:39] <m0u5e> bradley, you mean compiz-fusion?
[23:39] <bradley> yes
[23:39] <soundray> bradley: not if you can't even spell ubuntu
[23:39] <soundray> bradley: just kidding
[23:39] <bradley> ubuntu
[23:39] <bradley> osrry
[23:40] <bradley> lol
[23:40] <m0u5e> bradley: have you tried going to system>preference>appearances yet?
[23:40] <soundray> bradley: it's in System-Preferences-Appearance-Desktop Effects
[23:40] <Bruno_> soundray: after doing the mount -t hsf i got this http://pastebin.com/d1911328b
[23:40] <bradley> yes, but i cant get the stuff that makes it look like vista
[23:40] <bradley> and the cube
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[23:40] <Arenlor> Hello all I'm having a problem, my SD card is mounting read only
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, you need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:40] <m0u5e> bradley: so you already have compiz-fusion working?
[23:41] <bradley> i have the windows that kinda look wierd, but not the advanced
[23:41] <bradley> i have to install the manager
[23:41] <m0u5e> bradley: for it to look like vista,  you need to get emerald and add the svn repos for themes
[23:41] <soundray> Bruno_: you weren't supposed to enter that. It was just a command fragment
[23:41] <nephtes> Hey, is there something wrong with the package repos?  synaptic and aptitude are giving me warnings about everything being unauthenticated
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, YES.. START WITH THAT
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for the caps
[23:41] <bradley> how do i get emarld and compiz fusion?
[23:41] <m0u5e> bradley: you should already have compiz-fusion if you have gutsy
[23:41] <Bruno_> soundray: ok
[23:42] <bradley> where?
[23:42] <m0u5e> bradley: to get emerald, just sudo apt-get install emerald
[23:42] <samuel> Hello ppl, I need some help over here. My sound crashes because of wine. I got a nForce2 AC97 chipset. I just want to know how to restart the sound (which mod should I remove with rmmod?, is there another way of restarting sound?) Thanks for help.
[23:42] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Does anyone use MPD (Music Player Daemon)?
[23:42] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Does anyone use MPD (Music Player Daemon)?
[23:42] <soundray> Bruno_: anyway, booting OS X in a virtual machine is really beyond me -- I won't be much help there.
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, While you are in synaptic.. install emeral as well
[23:42] <Bruno_> soundray: ok, thanks for your time anyway
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> bradley; system > preferences? appearances > Visual
[23:42] <bastid_raZor>  not ? but >
[23:43] <s2a> how do u compile? i got this tar.gz i extracted it..now wat?
[23:43] <soundray> s2a: what are you compiling?
[23:43] <intardnet> s2a: what are you trying to install?
[23:43] <^4nDr3s> s2a, does it got a readme file or something?
[23:43] <bradley> ok
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> s2a, We usually have a bot to trigger for you   but start with installing build-essential
[23:44] <StrangeCharm> there's a file on a large external drive. i know its extension, but can't remember its full name, or path. there won't be many files of that type on this drive. how do i find it?
[23:44] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: what happened to ubotu?
[23:44] <intardnet> ubotu
[23:44] <bmk789> Gnea: in the bios download it has a bios.zip file with the .bin in it but its password protected ?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm, Looks like the bots are in for a tune up
[23:44] <soundray> StrangeCharm: 'find /mountpoint -name \*.extension'
[23:45] <StrangeCharm> thanks soundray
[23:45] <ere4si> StrangeCharm, ls /path/to/drive
[23:45] <Pirate_Hunter> i need an app for gnome that frequently gets updated and allows me to use html, asp, xhtml etc - bluefish seems like its not being worked on anymore
[23:45] <tkt-nitro> hola
[23:45] <StrangeCharm> ere4si: eew, no thanks
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm, use locate in term or search from the pull down menus
[23:45] <tkt-nitro> alguien de san luis potosi
[23:45] <coreyo|working> is there a way to keep ubuntu from screwing up your manually installed nvidia drivers at boot time?  I've disabled the /etc/init.d/nvidia-kernel script.  What else needs to be done?
[23:45] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: that doesn't seem to be working on files on external disks
[23:46] <bradley> i have emerald, now but how do i get the vista theme
[23:46] <tuxn8r> vista? ewww
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm, when asking questions it is helpful to include that kind of info,,,
[23:46] <intardnet> tkt-nitro: you may want to join #ubuntu-es
[23:46] <LOGAN> can the devs please make sure firefox flash plugins install in live mode like they did on 7.04 please?
[23:46] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: i did!
[23:46] <nonix4> bradley: how can I resist the answer involving rm -rf?
[23:46] <duncan> Hello :) I am trying to enable direct rendering. the output of glxinfo | grep direct is 'direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)'. I have an Intel 945GM chipset in my laptop, using the 'intel' or 'i810' driver gives the same result. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[23:46] <bradley> Jack_Sparrow: how do i get the vista themes from Emerald
[23:46] <soundray> StrangeCharm: locate works once you run 'sudo updatedb' while the external is connected and mounted
[23:46] <tuxn8r> LOGAN, you might post that to brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[23:47] <bradley> nonix4: ???
[23:47] <tehpunkprodigy> I'm trying to stream music from my home server to my desktop, does anyone know a way to get totem or a similar program to cache the song playing?
[23:47] <intardnet> bradley: do NOT run that command
[23:47] <bradley> intardnet: i didnt
[23:47] <StrangeCharm> find worked for me
[23:47] <StrangeCharm> thanks for your help
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm, Sorry, just waking up from a nap...
[23:47] <intardnet> nonix4: i think he wants to stick with ubuntu...
[23:47] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: i know the feeling :)
[23:48] <goxy>  i have problem on ububtu 7,10 while I use ssh  credentails are not persistent on other distros when I once type username and host no need to retype It at subsequent connections on ubuntu this is not a case. Any advice how to make these credentials persistent
[23:48] <goxy> ??
[23:48] <nonix4> intardnet: heh, yeah... didn't type it in full either :)
[23:48] <bradley> how do i get the vista 'looks' into the emerald themer
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, Did you find an emerald "ZVista" theme you want to use?
[23:48] <bradley> no, where is that?
[23:48] <intardnet> nonix4: true, thanks for that
[23:48] <nbkr> goxy, Pardon?
[23:48] <m0u5e> bradley: did you add the svn repository of themes in yet?
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, Start at gnome-look.org
[23:49] <intardnet> bradley: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42875
[23:49] <StrangeCharm> soundray: thanks for the tip, but find was faster :)
[23:49] <bradley> no i didnt add any repositories
[23:49] <soundray> goxy: you need to enable key-based authentication. Then you can manage your keys with ssh-add
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, there is another one art-gnome something, that I dont remember, (I miss the bots)
[23:49] <joh> Is there any way to manually enable the nvidia restricted drivers?
[23:49] <[FT]Alex> art.gnome.org I think
[23:49] <joh> The restricted drivers utility doesn't recognize my nvidia card.
[23:49] <intardnet> !ubotu blarg
[23:49] <intardnet> !blarg
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> joh, You possibly running an 8000 series nvidia
[23:50] <StrangeCharm> intardnet: ubotu isn't here today
[23:50] <intardnet> Jack_Sparrow: the bots can be pmed at least...
[23:50] <SeanInSeattle> Jack_Sparrow:  Hey, what do you use for playing your music?
[23:50] <soundray> StrangeCharm: here but silent
[23:50] <intardnet> StrangeCharm: where it be at?
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> xmms
[23:50] <joh> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, 8800
[23:50] <Starnestommy> Jack_Sparrow: gnome-art?
[23:50] <bradley> ok, i donloaded the theme how do u get it in emerald
[23:50] <StrangeCharm> intardnet: it be here, but it be hiding
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> joh, You will need to go to nvidia for those
[23:51] <StrangeCharm> intardnet: if you find it, you can have a chat, but it won't speak up in public, no matter how hard you yell
[23:51] <intardnet> StrangeCharm: whyzat?
[23:51] <LOGAN> tuxn8r : I posted already months ago before 7.10 was released
[23:51] <joh> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, should I uninstall some of ubuntus packages before I install the one from nvidia.com?
[23:51] <StrangeCharm> intardnet: dark magics
[23:51] <gatti> how can I make alsa re-detect my sound device? I tried to install alsa-drivers from source manually, but now the device is even more recognized by alsa...
[23:51] <Alyx|lappy> hey room
[23:51] <node357> hi
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> joh, Read the how to at nvidia
[23:51] <s2a> soundray, intardnet, the 64-bit hsf modem driver from dell bcuz i want to have internet on my 64-bit ubuntu (on another partition)
[23:51] <lch> okay, the workarounds in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398121 work for me to get video working... it seems to be a limitation of Beryl, so can I just disable Beryl somehow, maybe? if so, how?
[23:51] <^4nDr3s> does anyone of you have a link to download hardy?
[23:51] <s2a> soundray, intardnet, sry for late response
[23:52] <StrangeCharm> Alyx|lappy: i am astounded by your sn. did you have it before or after the hl series started using it?
[23:52] <LOGAN> seems they rather ignored it
[23:52] <tuxn8r> LOGAN, what is the link to your brainstorm, i will vote
[23:52] <nonix4> Jack_Sparrow: Umm, is there an ubuntu best-practice kind of document/howto for them nvidia cards?
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> gatti, Did you compile ver 15 or 16.. you need to use 15
[23:52] <bradley_> i have the theme, in Emerald, but when i clikc it nothing happens
[23:52] <Alyx|lappy> in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JHrY8QjIk you see how the windows are not on the cube and its transparent? how do I do that
[23:52] <Starnestommy> ^4nDr3s: someone in #ubuntu+1 probably knows
[23:52] <Alyx|lappy> StrangeCharm:  before or after what?
[23:52] <LOGAN> posted here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/151956
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nonix4, THere is a how to for nvidia binary.. one sec
[23:52] <soundray> s2a: have you checked whether System-Administration-Restricted Drivers offers a driver for your modem?
[23:52] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> happy Woman's day
[23:52] <StrangeCharm> Alyx|lappy: before or after half life two started including a character named 'alyx'
[23:52] <gatti> Jack_Sparrow: I tried both... 15rc1 and 16
[23:52] <node357> how bout this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:53] <^4nDr3s> thanks Starnestommy
[23:53] <Roadhazard> how do I find out what service is listening on 0.0.0.0:80?
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:53] <intardnet> s2a: did you but ubuntu preloaded?
[23:53] <[FT]Alex> Does anyone here know anything about opengl? specifically if it's possible to enable/install a missing opengl extension?
[23:53] <StrangeCharm> node357: dontcha just hate it when somebody links you to a page with a title almost exactly the same as your problem?
[23:53] <Alyx|lappy> StrangeCharm: I didnt know there was one so ill say before. Its the name of a character in a movie I like. with my standard y spelling
[23:53] <node357> :(
[23:53] <Alyx|lappy> Alyxander Trust
[23:53] <node357> sorry
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> gatti, two things, the alsa mutes everything when you compile and you often need to reinstall libasounds
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> libasound2
[23:54] <ibou> hedpe: i just read what you said and that's the point: i noticed that the size of my ghost is a half of normal size although i only have audio files on it.... that's why i asked
[23:54] <intardnet> node357: thats what we're here for
[23:54] <s2a> soundray, intardnet no i dint ghet it from dell i have the dell 32 bit one for my 32 bit os since it was a .deb but the 64 bit one u have to compile so i need to no how to do it so i can use my 64-bit ubuntu :)
[23:54] <Alyx|lappy> any one know how to get that effect in compiz?
[23:54] <node357> im so confused now lol
[23:54] <StrangeCharm> Alyx|lappy: i'll take your word for it
[23:54] <Alyx|lappy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JHrY8QjIk the transparent cube I've got but the windows sitting off the cbe
[23:55] <bradley_> how do i activate emerald themes?
[23:55] <bradley_> and how do i get my desktop to a cube
[23:55] <gatti> Jack_Sparrow: if I reinstall libasound2 all gonna be back to normal?
[23:55] <StrangeCharm> bye
[23:55] <Alyx|lappy> bradley_: sudo aptitude install emerald
[23:55] <node357> cya
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> gatti, No guarantees.. I have no idea on what all has been do so far...  You may also seek help in #Alsa
[23:56] <soundray> s2a: do a 'sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall'. Then look at any README, INSTALL or other help files in your package. If it says something like './configure ; make' do that. If it says 'make install', do 'checkinstall' instead to build a .deb.
[23:56] <nonix4> Jack_Sparrow: Well more specifically, back in the good old days before Ubuntu was born... I was pretty comfortable w/ make-pkg. Thinking I'll be installing one of them 8000-series cards (prolly 8600) in near future, possibly documenting all recognized issues. Wondering whether ppl have already documented the pros/cons of each approach...
[23:57] <nonix4> Jack_Sparrow: make-kpkg that is. Darn I'm asleep or something :/
[23:57] <intardnet> bradley_: i dont know how to activate it, but you should be able to use either the gnome-compiz-manager (if you havent installed it yet), or System>Preferences>Appearance, go to the Visual Effects tab, and select the highest settings
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, system  pref   advanced-efffects  dbl click general settings desktop size = 4   1   1
[23:57] <gatti> Jack_Sparrow: ok... thanks man
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> nonix4, Documentation is always helpful
[23:58] <abstrak> Anybody know the pctv 310i tv tuner with "remote controller" ? I cannot get any key pressed event !
[23:58] <jdolan_> hi, i'm on gutsy.  as far as i can tel, the libsdl-image1.2 package is not compiled with JPG support.  in debian, it is.  this seems strange to me.
[23:58] <abortd> !restricted
[23:58] <Pirate_Hunter> is NVU still being worked on, im sure i heard a new version was going to replace it can someone confirm
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, You can wait for help, but the wiki or the forums would be a good place to browse in the mean time
[23:59] <abstrak> i try a lot of wiki but no one work for me