| === ogra_cmpc_ is now known as ogra_cmpc | ||
| calimer | wow Hirato didn't know you hung out in here, haha | 06:04 |
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| calimer | my brother is actually in #inquisition if you ever wanted to meet him | 06:04 |
| Hirato | no noe expects the spanish inquisition >.< | 06:04 |
| Hirato | well mike, I don't, I just joiend quicker than you :) | 06:05 |
| calimer | yeah I'm slow | 06:05 |
| calimer | I forgot already what I was supposed to talk to LaserJock about | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | ? | 06:06 |
| calimer | oh yeah I'm supposed to ask you about Dtrak | 06:06 |
| calimer | oh and sandbox lite is going to be out soon | 06:06 |
| calimer | which meets the "free" criteria | 06:06 |
| Hirato | as in speech >.< | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | what do you want to ask about? | 06:10 |
| calimer | some guy named Dtrak | 06:10 |
| calimer | the guy from http://www.linuxgamingworld.com recommended I talk to him about SB and said you'd know who he was | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | hmm, interesting | 06:13 |
| calimer | ut oh... | 06:13 |
| calimer | haha | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | I don't remember anybody by that nick specifically | 06:13 |
| calimer | I guess he works in maine in a school | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | I wonder if it's David Trask or Matt Oquist | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | I think Matt's in Maine | 06:14 |
| calimer | here is the exact quote | 06:15 |
| calimer | "Dtrak works for a school up there in Maine and he can do projects" | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | probably Matt then | 06:15 |
| calimer | cool, does he still stop in? | 06:17 |
| hirat1 | meh | 06:19 |
| === hirat1 is now known as Hirato | ||
| LaserJock | calimer: yeah, he's moquist | 06:20 |
| calimer | not sure what that means | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | that's his nick in here | 06:22 |
| calimer | oh duh, sorry it is late here, haha | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | np | 06:22 |
| calimer | and trying to figure out everything he said to me | 06:22 |
| calimer | learning about lugs and locos as well | 06:23 |
| calimer | and btw LaserJock we released a new version :) | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | very good | 06:29 |
| calimer | I can't wait to get you guys Lite | 06:32 |
| calimer | I wonder if we could get it into ubuntu too, I would go crazy!! | 06:33 |
| calimer | I had no idea all these linux communities even existed | 06:33 |
| calimer | certainly things have come along way since my first days of redhat 8.0 and mandrake 9, haha | 06:34 |
| Hirato | we're currently working on some multilingual stuff, so if ou know anyone who can help out i translating, it would be very much appreciated | 06:35 |
| calimer | oh yeah I gotta e-mail my italian friend | 06:37 |
| calimer | him and his band did some of the heavy metal music in LMS :) | 06:37 |
| calimer | btw H my brother heads back on Monday so should hopefully have lite on the SVN then :) | 06:38 |
| calimer | I just want to make sure it is cleaned out before I put it on | 06:39 |
| Hirato | just a blooming shame I can't delete .svn directories with -rm -rf | 06:39 |
| Hirato | also calimer, I might be uploading symlinks soon, so be prepared for a migraine :) | 06:40 |
| calimer | why do you think it will be a migraine? | 06:40 |
| calimer | and what are symlinks? | 06:40 |
| Hirato | fat32/ntfs = no support for symlinks | 06:40 |
| calimer | what are they for though? | 06:40 |
| Hirato | um.. as it sys, links, used to minimise on file sizes, and make directory navigation easir | 06:41 |
| calimer | I don't understand yet why that would bother me | 06:42 |
| Hirato | windows systems haveno support for them | 06:42 |
| calimer | and... | 06:42 |
| calimer | I don't care that much about windows, only on it until I get LMS out the door :) | 06:42 |
| calimer | stupid engine tools :\ | 06:42 |
| Hirato | then you'll be joining me in running code blocks under wine :D | 06:43 |
| Hirato | and of course theming wine and complaining on how slow it is :D | 06:43 |
| calimer | yeah hopefully :) | 06:43 |
| Hirato | so calimer, do you think we should include linux and windows exutables in the same package? | 06:45 |
| calimer | why wouldn't we? | 06:45 |
| calimer | and yes, I think we should :) | 06:45 |
| Hirato | I thought you liked your current arrangement of windows systems.zip and posix systems.zip | 06:45 |
| Hirato | heh heh :) | 06:46 |
| calimer | it is windows system exe and multi zip | 06:46 |
| calimer | and I would love it to just be the zip but well ya know.... | 06:46 |
| Hirato | meh... just don't include the damn .o's >.< | 06:46 |
| calimer | :D | 06:48 |
| Hirato | I think taht's why the linux zip is a whole 12 MB bigger | 06:48 |
| calimer | what directory are you looking at? | 06:48 |
| Hirato | I'll go download it | 06:49 |
| * Hirato sulks as it doesn't run under wine :( | 06:49 | |
| Hirato | oh well, that means I don't get to test the windows bin :) | 06:49 |
| Hirato | while we're here, let's ask the experts :) | 06:50 |
| calimer | about what? | 06:50 |
| Hirato | would executign a binary fix it's permissions | 06:50 |
| calimer | the compling the mac binary on nix ? :) | 06:51 |
| Hirato | taht too :) | 06:51 |
| Hirato | though, won't we need the carbon headers for that | 06:51 |
| Hirato | or quartz, or whatever the OSX theme is called | 06:51 |
| calimer | oh the libraries, yeah prob | 06:52 |
| Hirato | and probably apple's screwed up version of GCC too | 06:53 |
| Hirato | http://www.cubeengine.com/forum.php4?action=display_thread&thread_id=1688 <-- as you can see by that, cube 2's performance on some macs have become quite questionable | 06:55 |
| Hirato | so how's GCompris and all that stuff coming along :) | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | gcompris seems good | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | did some testing | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | I might need to pull in a newer version before hardy is finalized | 07:08 |
| calimer | what does gcompris do? | 07:08 |
| * Hirato is using the alpha :) | 07:09 | |
| Hirato | it's at alpha 5 at the moment right? | 07:09 |
| calimer | my nix HD is so in the stoneage, haha | 07:10 |
| calimer | with my mandrake 10.1 and all | 07:10 |
| Hirato | they chanegd their name to mandriva :) | 07:11 |
| calimer | yeah the version I have is the one right before they did that I believe | 07:11 |
| calimer | they merged with another distro, I forgot which one | 07:12 |
| calimer | I have really wanted to try ubuntu | 07:12 |
| calimer | especially xubuntu | 07:12 |
| calimer | I think I would die if I saw sandbox in the list of games to install | 07:13 |
| Hirato | in happiness or urge of suicide | 07:13 |
| calimer | shock/happiness | 07:14 |
| Hirato | not a good think at all, who's gonna do all the PR and package the releases >.< | 07:15 |
| calimer | and screw up the files | 07:15 |
| Hirato | well yeah, that too | 07:15 |
| Hirato | we can just dos2unix them to fix it :P | 07:15 |
| calimer | haha | 07:15 |
| calimer | I have a map i want to make soon | 07:16 |
| calimer | there is a story I've wanted to write for a long time and I want to map out the area | 07:16 |
| calimer | I gotta find my old maps of it | 07:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hm. does edubuntu really still ship i386 kernels not 486? | 08:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nixternal, you around? (iirc your an edu-doc person?) | 08:08 |
| nixternal | ya, what's up? | 08:08 |
| nixternal | I am working on my 100-a-day :) | 08:08 |
| nixternal | holy smokes, 03:00, time flies when you are having fun | 08:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 100? 100 whats? | 08:08 |
| nixternal | 100 bugs a day | 08:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh. wow. | 08:08 |
| nixternal | 90 of those are usually duplicates or 3+ years old | 08:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | still wow. | 08:09 |
| nixternal | what's up with the docs? | 08:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | nixternal, if i do up some patches, if i'm not sure about a change should i do it in a seperate patch, or you can selectively apply stuff? | 08:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | s/stuff/a patch | 08:11 |
| nixternal | do it in a separate patch | 08:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | will do. thanks for that | 08:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | if your heading to sleep, sleep well ;) | 08:11 |
| nixternal | ya, I think I will in a few minutes...I wasn't paying attention to time at all | 08:12 |
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| Nubae | hey, has alpha6 totally migrated to gvfs now? | 11:29 |
| === Shizzle is now known as Crankey | ||
| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| Nick_M_ | Anyone have any thoughts on a web-based Edubuntu? | 16:37 |
| subsume | Could someone please clear up some confusing for me regarding https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients ? | 16:39 |
| subsume | I've got some directions setting up an LTSP fat client but I need some small clarification. Could someone please help? | 16:41 |
| subsume | I know I can load an operating system in the /opt folder of the host machine. But I am not understanding how client machines read from this. | 16:41 |
| stgraber | basically they load the kernel and initrd from the network (using PXE and a DHCP server) | 16:42 |
| stgraber | then they run the kernel which loads the initrd which contains the tools required to network mount the harddisk | 16:43 |
| stgraber | the harddisk is either exported using NFS (Ubuntu Feisty for example) or NBD (>=Gutsy) | 16:43 |
| stgraber | then it's mounted and used as main harddisk, the changes between this remote HDD and the running system are stored in RAM, so everything is lost after reboot | 16:44 |
| subsume | NFS mounted disk | 16:44 |
| subsume | Ok I think I see the step where this happens | 16:45 |
| subsume | actually... no. I don't. | 16:45 |
| subsume | stgraber: let's assume I've taken all the instructed steps on the server machine... what needs to be set up on a client machine? | 16:46 |
| subsume | should I just set them up like normal thin-clients | 16:46 |
| subsume | (edubuntu installer) ? | 16:46 |
| stgraber | those will be configured the same way as normal thin clients | 16:47 |
| subsume | edubuntu installer? | 16:47 |
| subsume | ? | 16:47 |
| stgraber | the only difference is that what they get from the server is a complete system instead of a minimal system | 16:47 |
| stgraber | no, you should just have to update the BIOS to network boot | 16:48 |
| subsume | stgraber: ah-HA. | 16:48 |
| stgraber | or if you are running old hardware, to either add a PXE ROM to their network cards or use a boot floppy to perform PXE boot | 16:48 |
| stgraber | then they'll get their IP and PXE config from the DHCP server, will then contact the edubuntu server using TFTP, get the kernel and initrd and boot | 16:48 |
| stgraber | (yes, it's easy once you have been running that kind of setup for months/years :)) | 16:49 |
| subsume | jee that clears things up | 16:49 |
| subsume | wow. that's grand! | 16:49 |
| subsume | stgraber: Have you seen that doc I linked to? Is RAM and processing power in this case are functions of the client machine. yes? | 16:50 |
| subsume | PXE ROM if they can't netboot... hmm. | 16:51 |
| subsume | Never heard of that. | 16:51 |
| subsume | If I connect my fat clients via network cables instead of wifi will they be faster?? | 16:53 |
| stgraber | subsume: sure and you can't PXE boot using wifi (or only with some weird piece of hardware on unprotected networks) | 17:16 |
| stgraber | ogra_: ping | 23:13 |
| pygi | stgraber, I'd say ogra sleeps at this time of night? :p | 23:18 |
| stgraber | well, I don't and I'm in the same timezone as he's :) | 23:23 |
| stgraber | so I thought that maybe it'd be my lucky day | 23:23 |
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