[02:35] <ryanakca> Is anybody else having a hard time getting K3B to notice a CD/DVD drive under hardy?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <nixternal> hahaha
[02:42] <nixternal> I haven't had any issues yet...just burnt another CD about an hour ago in hardy
[02:44] <ryanakca> nixternal: heh, methinks he'll have to run mknod...
[02:45] <ryanakca> "Cannot open SCSI driver!" ... *grumbles*
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Hi Mez
[04:57] <nixternal> hey, can you change all Fonts at once in Gnome like you can in KDE's system settings with the 'Adjust All Fonts...'?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> depends pn how worthy your sacrifices are
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: care to say?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:00] <Hobbsee> system, appearances, fonts
[05:00] <Hobbsee> oh, all fonts at once.  hmmm.
[05:01] <nixternal> ya, nevermind on that
[05:01] <DaSkreech> cool
[05:01] <nixternal> gsfonts-x11 doesn't have a light setting for URW Gothic L, so it isn't a KDE System Settings issue
[05:01] <DaSkreech> irssi tells you when you are another day without dying?
[05:03] <nixternal> yup
[05:03] <nixternal> I have about an hour to go before it tells me :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> I know :)
[05:13] <nixternal> cool
[05:13] <nixternal> I just totally messed up my network settings, and irssi froze
[05:14] <nixternal> I fixed my settings and irssi came back to life...gotta love ssh :)
[05:14] <coreymon77> happy smash bros day
[06:53] <yao_ziyuan> i want to mention that kubuntu 8.04's default wallpaper, Tend To Zero,
[06:53] <yao_ziyuan> has a wrong aspect ratio for many resolutions
[06:54] <yao_ziyuan> for example, if a user's screen resolution is 1280x1024,
[06:54] <yao_ziyuan> those fractals will not be circular...
[06:54] <yao_ziyuan> but oval
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> unless you use "Scale and Crop"
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> VLADSTUDIO's website has editions for each screen resolution
[08:46] <mornfall> Hm, anyone sharing my suspicion, that adept is a little more crashy since some point in it being patched up?
[08:46] <mornfall> (I have loads of reports of crashes which I don't recall seeing when debugging 2.x...)
[08:47] <mornfall> (I'm closing them with reference to 3.0 mostly, just curious...)
[10:05] <serega> morning :)
[10:27] <mornfall> serega: It used to be... :)
[10:36] <serega> :)
[11:18] <Hobbsee> yay, finally won against drupal.
[11:19] <mornfall> Hobbsee: Who, where?
[11:19] <Hobbsee> me
[11:25] <mornfall> Ah. I have been thinking some poll or competition or something :-).
[11:41] <Hobbsee> nah
[12:09] <NthDegree> hey guys, where do I report bugs
[12:10] <NthDegree> simple, non-critical bug in jockey-kde:  you check the checkbox for nvidia and click cancel on the prompt it brings up.. the box remains checked even though you chose cancel
[12:10] <Hobbsee> !bug
[12:11] <Hobbsee> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[12:11] <NthDegree> ooh Hobbsee long time no speak! :D
[12:11] <Hobbsee> heya :)
[13:03] <ryanakca> heh, KDE4 has been compiling for the past 19 and its still going at it :)
[13:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: ping ?
[13:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: we have a problem with knetworkmanager
[13:33] <Tonio_> doesn't work as expected, no way to perform a wireless connection since latest libnl update
[13:33] <Dekans> hi Tonio_
[13:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: I thought it worked out with rebuilt, but it only worked since I used nm-applet in the same time
[13:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: something broke in the connection process
[13:33] <Tonio_> hey Dekans
[13:33] <Dekans> I just installed hardy and I have 2-3 issues to report
[13:34] <Dekans> about kdm and the upgrade tool
[13:36] <Dekans> Tonio_: are you aware of issue with kdm/X for hardy ?
[13:40] <Tonio_> Dekans: nope what is it ?
[15:07] <mbiebl> Riddell: hi
[15:07] <mbiebl> none of my kde4 apps wants to start
[15:07] <mbiebl> I only get:
[15:07] <mbiebl> Fatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object before
[15:07] <mbiebl> you do anything that requires it!
[15:09] <mbiebl> ah, looks like a dup of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/194814
[15:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194814 in kdebase-kde4 "A lot of programms can't start because of KComponentData" [Undecided,Invalid]
[16:24] <jjesse> interseting i no longer have the option on my gutsy box to select kde4 as the session type
[16:26] <jjesse> even though i have or had kde4 install
[18:35]  * ryanakca wonders if anybody here would like to teach a class on something KDE or PyQt4 sometime down the road? 
[18:35] <ryanakca> I'll poke the ML too :)
[18:37] <Riddell> ryanakca: seems a bit far for me
[18:38] <ryanakca> Riddell: far as it too far down the road to know?
[18:38] <Riddell> oh, not a geographical road
[18:40]  * Jussio1 would be interested to attend such a class
[18:41] <ryanakca> Jussio1: would you like to teach such a class? :)
[18:42] <ryanakca> we've got cookies, and a pat on the back :)
[18:42] <Jussio1> ryanakca: no. not that I wouldnt like to, but more along the lines of couldnt because of lack of knowledge :(
[18:43] <ryanakca> Jussio1: lol, I'm the same :)
[18:43] <Jussio1> Although, another thing that would be nice, would be a class on effeective helping, for the "helpers" in #kubuntu
[18:44] <Jussio1> its something that is often neglected
[18:47] <ryanakca> Jussio1: hmm...
[18:48] <nixternal> hey, I wouldn't mind doing either a PyQt4 or Qt4/C++ intro
[18:48] <nixternal> I have enough books here and the basic knowledge to give such a course
[18:48]  * Jussio1 huggles nixternal
[18:48]  * nixternal tries to make a patch for plasma panel in 4.0.2 so that when the panel changes the size, the clock follows
[18:49] <Jussio1> nixternal: that would be nice. :)
[18:49] <Jussio1> nixternal: do you know if its planned to be able to resize the pannel horizontally?
[18:50] <nixternal> you can do that now, just by hand though :p
[18:50] <nixternal> as for it being planned, I really don't know, but I don't see why they wouldn't
[18:51] <nixternal> it isn't in trunk yet if it is planned either
[18:51] <Jussio1> aha, have you done it?
[18:51] <tlayton> hey. anybody running kde4 from trunk? i put this at the top of startkde (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59014/). anything else i need?
[18:52] <smarter_> export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[18:52] <smarter_> export KDEDIR=$KDEDIRS
[18:53] <tlayton> smarter_: not sure if i'm remembering right, but doesn't the KDEHOME need a patch since kubuntu allows both 3.5 and 4 to run?
[18:54] <smarter_> dunno
[20:05] <Serega> how to pass command line arg to pykde script? KApplication says 'Unexpected argument'
[20:50] <LjL> !ops | please unban 88.232.*, as legitimate users are trying to join
[20:50] <ubotwo> please unban 88.232.*, as legitimate users are trying to join: Help! Riddell, haggai, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee or Mez
[21:35] <Riddell> LjL: any idea how?
[21:37] <LjL> Riddell: the ban issue is solved, thanks to nalioth. what i strongly suggest, though, is « /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-devel add *!*@freenode/staff/* 10 » to let freenode staff know they can op themselves if needed
[21:39] <Riddell> don't they have magic powers to be able to do that?
[21:39] <LjL> Riddell: not all of them do, and even so, they assume they're not supposed to op themselves, if they don't see themselves in the access list, of a group contact explicitly asks them to (which i did today, and would have preferred not)
[21:41] <Riddell> LjL: what did you have to do today?
[21:42] <LjL> Riddell, mute Ubotu and unmute Ubotwo (who had been muted months ago, i guess because i wasn't around to make it part), since Ubotu has been ill for longer than a day now
[21:43] <Riddell> ill?
[21:43] <Riddell> I see, excess floods
[21:43] <LjL> Riddell: connects, is responsive for 10 minutes, then unresponsive for 20 minutes, then disconnects, repeat from start
[21:43] <Riddell> ok, thanks LjL
[21:46] <nixternal> ooh Riddell!! refresh my memory on the support for the KDE 4 (6 months community?) and KDE 3 (6 months commercially?) releases
[21:47] <Riddell> nixternal: goodness knows
[21:47] <nixternal> hrmm, I couldn't remember the numbers, but I swore it was stated somewhere
[21:48] <nixternal> I am refreshing the template for release notes so it will be easier for the translators and those of us who add content to release notes
[21:49] <Riddell> nothing is certain yet
[21:50] <daSKreech> anyone have a machine I can ssh into?
[21:51] <nixternal> daSKreech: that was a horrible try at social hacking :p
[21:51] <Riddell> daSKreech: 127.0.0.1
[21:52] <daSKreech> You mean you would deny me some ssh action?
[21:52] <daSKreech> Riddell: they have sshd on Vista now? ^_^
[21:52] <Riddell> it helps if you say what it's for
[21:56] <daSKreech> ah right
[21:56] <daSKreech> I'm doing some classes tomorrow on Linux essentials and I just needed to test some options on vi and nano
[21:56] <daSKreech> emacs if you got them
[21:57] <catap> hi
[21:57] <catap> alt+tab and alt+f2 stopped working, how can I restart it without logging out? (it happens a lot on latest hardy)
[21:58] <catap> I tried restarting kwin and kdesktop but no luck
[21:58] <stdin> daSKreech: I think silenceisdefeat.org and sdf.lonestar.org still hand out shell accounts
[21:59] <daSKreech> stdin: thanks
[23:22] <ScottK2> Unless someone has further kvetching with my PPA package, I'm going to upload kde-guidance here pretty quick.
[23:25] <nixternal> ScottK2: that fixes quite a few of the display bugs or just the mountconfig bugs?
[23:25] <nixternal> I can't remember now
[23:43]  * ScottK3 cheers airport wireless
[23:43] <ScottK3> nixternal: There are some displayconfig changes too, but it's not radical.
[23:43] <ScottK3> We still don't have a solution for auto config with no xorg.
[23:44] <ScottK3> The biggest change is taking a snapshot of the MonitorDB svn in hwdata and adding that.
[23:45] <Riddell> ScottK3: go for it
[23:46] <Riddell> if there's patches that should go upstream let me know and I can apply them
[23:46] <ScottK3> Riddell: There are and I will.  I'm going the Debian's kde-guidance package now to see if they have any patches we want.
[23:47] <ScottK3> Debian is going to update to the same snapshot we are using.
[23:57] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuReleaseNotesTemplate   <-- Riddell how does that look?