[00:02] <charwood> Is it possible that the problem is that I am already connected to my router on eth0 so wlan0 won't connect?
[00:04] <BluesKaj> charwood, never used wlan0 , always eth0 and I'm behind a router , with no problems
[00:05] <BluesKaj> charwood, why wlan0 BTW ?
[00:06] <charwood> BluesKaj: Sorry, are you suggesting that I never use wlan0 or are you saying that you don't?  My eth0 and wlan0 are different devices.  eth0 is my wired, wlan0 is my wireless.  Sometimes I'd rather use the one, sometimes the other.
[00:06] <charwood> (i.e. if I'm in the office, I use wired otherwise wireless).
[00:08] <BluesKaj> ok , sorry i have no experience with wireless , thought it was a wired network application that's different than eth0
[00:08] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[00:09] <BluesKaj> !info wireless
[00:09] <BluesKaj> hmm. ubotu isn't awake tonite
[00:09] <coreymon77> oh
[00:09] <charwood> ubotu: Wake up.
[00:10] <charwood> BluesKaj: That's ok.  Yeah, I've never been successful getting wireless to work in [k]ubuntu.  Before I've always had to try using the broadcom drivers.  But this new notebook uses the intel chipset which I hoped would be friendlier.  Indeed, I do seem closer than before but not clsoe enough.
[00:12] <BluesKaj> charwood, the latest kubuntus are much more wireless freindly than previous and the intel one should work fine . I've seen ppl seeking advice about them here , but not often.
[00:14] <charwood> Yes, since edgy wireless seems to be happier.  If anyone sees my plight and sympathizes, I'll try to keep watching the channel.
[00:14] <BluesKaj> !ubotu
[00:18] <charwood> When I run /etc/init.d/networking DHCPDISCOVER runs on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 on port 67.  Is that normal?  Seems like a strange mask, and does DHCP really use port 67?
[00:19] <coreymon77> charwood: so, whats the matter
[00:20] <charwood> coreymon77: I can't seem to get my wireless set up correctly and I'm not sure where the problem lies.
[00:20] <coreymon77> charwood: well, tell me more
[00:22] <charwood> coreymon77: Ok.  It's a new laptop--it has the intel 3845 set.  I found on the ubuntu forums to blacklist certain modules and to enable others (specifically iwl3845 and iwlwifi_mac80211).  Modprobing these seemed to work.  Using kwifimanager I set up a configuration for my home access point.  It seems correct and kwifimanager sees my access point but can't connect.
[00:23] <coreymon77> charwood: what do you mean by cant connect? is there any error? anything
[00:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:24] <charwood> coreymon77: That's the infuriorating part.  I'm not getting any error messages.  When I hit the "Scan for Networks" it sometimes shows mine and my neighbor's but usually it says "The scan is complete but no networks were found" and yet in the status of Active Connection box it displays the SSID of my connection and the MAC addrss of my router but says the Local IP is "unavailable".
[00:24] <coreymon77> try this
[00:25] <coreymon77> charwood: what interface is your card labelled as, wlan0?
[00:25] <charwood> coreymon77: Yes.
[00:25] <coreymon77> wep key?
[00:26] <charwood> Well, I'
[00:26] <coreymon77> charwood: any encryption
[00:26] <charwood> I'm not actually using WEP (I don't think).  I'm using WPA-PSK + WPA2-PSK
[00:27] <coreymon77> charwood: okay, then did you install the extra stuff and do the extra setup for wpa?
[00:27] <charwood> coreymon77: I have done no extra stuff for WPA.  What extra stuff is involved?
[00:29] <charwood> coreymon77: Let me google this for a while so I don't waste your time.  Just a minute (and thanks).
[00:31] <coreymon77> charwood: youre not wasting my time
[00:31] <coreymon77> charwood: this is what im here for
[00:31] <coreymon77> charwood: what card are you using again
[00:31] <charwood> coreymon77: Intel PRO 3945
[00:32] <coreymon77> charwood: okay, good
[00:32] <coreymon77> charwood: you do have internet on the computer right?
[00:32] <charwood> coreymon77: From what I can tell knetworkmanager should provide the necessary support for WPA-PSK.  I'm not sure where to configure it though.  In the "configuration manager" there is a place to put in 4 keys.  Is this what I want?
[00:33] <charwood> coreymon77: Yes.  I'm using the computer that I'm trying to get wireless working on here but I'm connected through eth0.
[00:33] <coreymon77> charwood: knetworkmanager is very buggy imo
[00:34] <charwood> coreymon77: That has become my opinion as well.  But the only alternative I'm aware of is /etc/network/interfaces and it's a bit intimidating.
[00:35] <coreymon77> hmm
[00:35] <coreymon77> well, what driver are you using again
[00:36] <charwood> ilw3945 and iwlwifi_mac80211 (Not sure which is what)
[00:38] <coreymon77> charwood: sorry, but to tell you the truth, im not all that familiar with wpa
[00:38] <charwood> The man pages for interfaces and iwconfig offer no information about it either.  I assumed that no one used WEP anymore.  My understanding is that breaking its encryption is trivial.
[00:39] <coreymon77> if someone wanted to break it, they could, but its still a pain
[00:39] <coreymon77> besides, your on linux now, what can someone really do to you anyways
[00:40] <charwood> coreymon77: Yeah, it's not like security is a big deal to me but I have several computers running here that are Windows boxes and I have lots of SMB shares that I'd rather not be public and whatnot.
[00:41] <ubuntu_> hey i've never used Konversation in my life, how do I connect to gamesurge
[00:41] <charwood> appox: Do you know what server gamesurge is on?
[00:42] <charwood> appox: Press F2 to and click the new button to set up a connection to a new server.  Then to join the gamesurge channel type "/join #gamesurge".
[00:43] <michael__> ok
[00:43] <michael__> 7.10 installed
[00:44] <michael__> video driver working nicely
[00:45] <katja> I've just installed 64 bit version and I get a bucketload of segfaults in the packet manager ... is this normal? =)
[00:45] <coreymon77> katja: does it sound normal? :P
[00:46] <katja> Well... It doesn't sound production ready, but hey, I've coded my fair share of C++, so I'm sort of used to it...
[00:46] <michael__> should I do the version upgrade with adept? I just installed 7.10 and installed all the updates.
[00:47] <katja> Adept is the one crashing every so often... ;)
[00:47] <katja> apt-get works fine...
[00:48] <HazorV> Meep, anyone wanna give a linux newbie a hand with fdisk?
[00:48] <cpk1> I hate adept anyways
[00:48] <cpk1> I stick to aptitude
[00:49] <michael__> is it recommended to do a version upgrade with adept?
[00:49] <Y-Town> <<<< Synaptic
[00:49] <katja> Well, now adept broke something and I get a lot of "failed to write cache" errors...
[00:56] <michael__> distro upgrade is locked up at 0% but tells me that if I cancel it, I may render the OS the be unstable
[00:57] <michael__> I just installed 7.10
[00:58] <michael__>  why does adept tell me that there is a newer version ready to be D/Led and installed
[00:59] <coreymon77> michael__: bug
[00:59] <coreymon77> michael__: ignore it
[00:59] <michael__> when it was trying install, this 'newer' version as 7.10.............  the same version I just installed.
[00:59] <michael__> what do I do when I cancel it?
[00:59] <coreymon77> oh, you already started
[00:59] <michael__> will I have to reinstall?
[00:59] <michael__> yeah
[01:00] <coreymon77> i dont know, ask the others
[01:00] <michael__> it froze at  0%      lol
[01:00] <michael__> tried
[01:00] <michael__> no response
[01:00] <coreymon77> wow, thats something windows would do
[01:00] <michael__> yeah
[01:01] <michael__> I'm canceling
[01:01] <michael__> if I have to reinstall, I will
[01:02] <coreymon77> probably wont matter
[01:02] <michael__> but I bet that means that I will always have a warning to install updates in the system tray
[01:02] <coreymon77> not really
[01:02] <coreymon77> it sorted itself out for me
[01:03] <michael__> oh really?
[01:03] <michael__> cool
[01:03] <michael__> grrr
[01:03] <michael__> error in upgrading
[01:04] <coreymon77> im really not sure what to do
[01:04] <michael__> (not distro thankfully)
[01:04] <michael__> just the regular packages
[01:04] <michael__> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[01:04] <coreymon77> try this
[01:04] <michael__> that is the error I get
[01:05] <coreymon77> first try doing a sudo apt-get update in console
[01:05] <michael__> k
[01:06] <michael__> holy cow
[01:06] <michael__> that was fast
[01:06] <coreymon77> any messages at the end?
[01:06] <ZeH> oh hes back on the bright side :P
[01:06] <michael__> Fetched 3B in 0s (4B/s)
[01:06] <ZeH> michael__ are you like me firstimer with linux :P ?
[01:07] <michael__> not first timer, but deff. a newbie
[01:07] <coreymon77> michael__: btw, thats why i tend to use command line for apt more often
[01:07] <michael__> :o)
[01:07] <ZeH> :)
[01:07] <coreymon77> michael__: anyways, did apt-get update have any messages at the end
[01:07] <michael__> so does that meean, its upgraded now?
[01:08] <ZeH> best way of sending 1 gb files from windows to kubuntu :P ?
[01:08] <coreymon77> no
[01:08] <cpk1> update lets it know about upgrades
[01:08] <ZeH> 2 different computers in LAN
[01:08] <coreymon77> michael__: all that does is lets apt know that there is an update
[01:08] <cpk1> but an update would normally be more than 3B
[01:08] <michael__> Reading package lists... Done     <-----  last message
[01:08] <coreymon77> michael__: okay then
[01:08] <coreymon77> michael__: try this
[01:08] <cpk1> oh wait no it wouldnt
[01:08] <coreymon77> michael__: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:09] <michael__> ok done
[01:10] <michael__> no errors
[01:10] <silverblade> Im having one hell of a bad time updating my fresh Kubuntu installation. I get about 95% through using Adept updater then it says there was a problem. Then it tells me theres a new version available (7.10) which is what i installed. Then it crashes after telling me another process is using the packaging system
[01:10] <coreymon77> michael__: is the little update notification still there?
[01:10] <michael__> yes
[01:11] <coreymon77> michael__: try it again, but dont "upgrade your distro" if it asys so again
[01:11] <michael__> through adept?
[01:11] <coreymon77> michael__: actually
[01:11] <coreymon77> michael__: do sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <michael__> k
[01:12] <coreymon77> michael__: that will give us more of a reason/error if it doesnt work
[01:12] <michael__> I cant believe the speed
[01:13] <michael__> just built a new system
[01:13] <coreymon77> michael__: i know, command line is much faster because it doesnt have to worry about the graphical aspect
[01:13] <sheridan> this is in a virtualbox
[01:13] <sheridan> for a moment i thought you were all virtual people
[01:13] <coreymon77> michael__: and when you are a linux newbie, youre used to windows speed, so linux is blazing
[01:14]  * BluesKaj pinches himself ...yup i'm real :)
[01:14] <michael__> crazy fast from an amd 3200+
[01:14] <michael__> to a quad core
[01:15]  * silverblade pinches BluesKaj too, yep he really is real
[01:15] <silverblade> nobody else is though
[01:16] <michael__> y
[01:16] <michael__> oops, wrong screen
[01:17] <michael__> anyone need a pc built?
[01:17] <Red_Tear> hey hey
[01:17] <Red_Tear>  discordya
[01:17] <tom_> why cant i recieve files sent from LAN buddies
[01:18] <michael__> they are not your buddies
[01:18] <bubba> hello, what do i need to synchronyse my mp3 player to amarok?
[01:18] <tom_> example irc or msn it gets frozen but from guys not in LAN i can recive files
[01:18] <michael__> :o)
[01:19] <michael__> cool
[01:19] <michael__> that took the update sign away  coreymon77
[01:20] <coreymon77> good
[01:20] <michael__> thanks
[01:20] <michael__> what do I do about DVD movies and mp3s
[01:20] <michael__> ?
[01:20] <BluesKaj> bubba, look in the devices section in settings in amarok
[01:20] <adz21c> michael__: what ya mean what ya do about them?
[01:20] <bubba> ty blueskaj
[01:21] <michael__> I would like to play them
[01:21] <swatto> off topic: next door neighbours are really giving it some - jeeez every night *sigh*
[01:21] <michael__> (this is a fresh install)
[01:21] <adz21c> michael__: well for dvds make sure u install libdvdcss
[01:21] <michael__> should I restart first?
[01:22] <adz21c> michael__: nope no need to
[01:22] <bubba> adz21 that libdvdcss is in unrestricted isnt it
[01:22] <roey> hello
[01:22] <Roey> hi!!
[01:22] <adz21c> bubba: don't remember, probably is yea
[01:22] <michael__> to finish the update i'm asked to restart
[01:22] <adz21c> ok, well do it if it asks
[01:23] <gregbrady> Is it possible to install kde4 in Ubuntu?
[01:23] <michael__> ok, I wasnt sure if I should BEFORE I did the dvd and mp3 thing or not
[01:23] <adz21c> oh ok, shouldn't make a difference
[01:23] <michael__> I guess I willget it out of the way
[01:23] <Roey> Quick question:  I have an Intel i945 graphics card.  X mis-detects it, so I fixed /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I changed from "i810" to "intel" driver).  But for some reason, kdm (which starts automatically) does not seem to be following /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  What's wrong here?
[01:23] <michael__> brb
[01:23] <Roey> i.e. when I start kdm (on bootup), I get unaccelerated graphics.
[01:25] <BluesKaj> Roey,I think you have to actually uninstall i810 driver
[01:25] <Roey> hrm
[01:25] <Roey> BlueDevil:   but where is KDM *getting* this other xorg cofig info from??
[01:25] <tom_> vista to kubuntu dear god its going fast now :O
[01:25] <Roey> ii  xserver-xorg-v 2:1.7.4-0ubunt X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display d
[01:26] <Roey> I can't remove it; it's the driver for i945 too
[01:26] <Roey> Also, how do I upgrade to hardy heron if I don't have gnome update-manager ?
[01:27] <michael__> cool, i'm back
[01:28] <Roey> hello michael__
[01:28] <gregbrady> Is it possible to install Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu?
[01:28] <Roey> I had a problem above; any idea?
[01:28] <Roey> gregbrady:   yes
[01:28] <Red_Tear> *laugvhing becouse of alcohol
[01:28] <gregbrady> Roey, how to go about that?
[01:29] <dsmith_> how do I restart alsa?
[01:29] <adz21c> gregbrady: install kubuntu-desktop package
[01:29] <Roey> gregbrady:   dunno
[01:29] <Red_Tear> alcohol is shit... but also its a mightiy force of chaols... and chaos is the world
[01:29] <dsmith_> wow, is it the real greg brady?
[01:29] <dsmith_> lol
[01:29] <gregbrady> Groovy
[01:29] <Red_Tear> i mean...
[01:30] <michael__> how can I play dvd's
[01:30] <Red_Tear> the stars for example... you can orde them in a special art... but: if they would exist to let you do this there would be numb ers next to the starst^^
[01:30] <dsmith_> !dvd
[01:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:31] <gregbrady> adz21c, this package is where?
[01:31] <adz21c> gregbrady: should be in the ubuntu repos
[01:31] <michael__> great thanks
[01:32] <Red_Tear> hey.... anjybody want to talk with a crazy drunken?^^
[01:32] <Red_Tear> i mean:
[01:32] <blueyed> Does middle-clicking an URL opens a new Konqueror window for you, too? (In Hardy, middle-clicking on any URL in Konqui)
[01:32] <Red_Tear> diskordia is chaos... d
[01:32] <Red_Tear> and drunken ischaios, too
[01:32] <blueyed> Red_Tear: cheers :p
[01:32] <Red_Tear> hey blueyed
[01:32] <gregbrady> adz21c:  Does it separate itself from the gnome desktop and not mess it up?
[01:32] <bubba> do i need to update magnatune?
[01:32] <Red_Tear> do you belive in the holy might of chaos, too?
[01:33] <adz21c> gregbrady: on login u choose which u want to use, however each others apps should appear in each others menus
[01:33] <ubuntu__> there something new in kubuntu
[01:33] <ubuntu__> what latest desktop in kubuntu
[01:33] <blueyed> Red_Tear: chaos is great, if you can manage it.. ;)
[01:33] <kuser51> please help me to update my kde
[01:34] <blueyed> Red_Tear: are you using Hardy?
[01:34] <bubba> i just put a cd audio in ...and it keep cutting every 10 secs
[01:34] <kuser51> what the different of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[01:34] <coreymon77> kuser51: one uses gnome, one uses kde
[01:35] <gregbrady> adz21c: found it and installing, thanks!
[01:35] <kuser51> so what the best way to use gnome or kde
[01:35] <feierfox> boooring!!!
[01:35] <r11t> kuser51: most of us here probably prefer the later ;)
[01:35] <Red_Tear>  blueyed: i can een manage it withoud hardy... what is hardy?
[01:35] <kuser51> what u suggest to used?
[01:36] <blueyed> Red_Tear: Ubuntu Hardy, the development branch, to be released in April.
[01:36] <r11t> kuser51: I am happy with kubuntu but both are nice ..you should try both and find out which one you like more
[01:36] <Red_Tear> blueyed:  i think i will try satanic kubuntu soon...
[01:37] <Red_Tear> i mean:
[01:37] <kuser51> there something new in kubuntu
[01:37] <blueyed> kuser51: my impression is that gnome is more polished in Ubuntu and you can always use kde apps therein.. you can even install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop side by side and decide on login what to use.
[01:37] <Red_Tear> even if satanics dont are in my case of morality: they got goood goals°
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive found issues with gnome in some areas..  but i mixx and match gnome and kde apps on both desktops
[01:37] <tom_> hmm i heard roumors of some kind of fast kubuntu reboot and not computer reboot how to do that?
[01:38] <Red_Tear> you know..
[01:38] <Red_Tear> im just 18 yo... but!
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> tom_,  You can restart the X server, if thats what you are talking about.
[01:38] <Red_Tear>  i ecognized that my hd is to full
[01:38] <Red_Tear> all the thjings dont start aujtomatic anymore
[01:39] <kuser51> do u think the compiz beryl is compatible to kubuntu, how to enabled beryl in my desktop
[01:39] <Red_Tear> and that remembers me on the computers that exiosts before i was born
[01:39] <Red_Tear> and they were great
[01:39] <Red_Tear> thats the way
[01:40] <feierfox> we kubunteros are marks unwanted children
[01:40] <Red_Tear> but also, i know that i dont go anything lke an free will
[01:40] <kuser51> free kevin mithnick
[01:40] <Red_Tear> +t
[01:40] <kuser51> i want to discover something new in kubuntu
[01:40] <Red_Tear> becouse i am what i am becouse of my genes and experivence,, no way to change it
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> kuser51,  use compiz-fusion, not beryl
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | kuser51
[01:40] <Red_Tear> but just put ddate intp the console
[01:41] <kuser51> compiz fusion?
[01:41] <Red_Tear> and you willl know what al this is about....maybe.... maybe not... maybed yess an maybe both of it
[01:42] <kuser51> dr.wiilis please help me to enable compiz fusion in my desktop
[01:42] <tom_> dr_willis ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:42] <tom_> that i think does somekind of reboot , but i dont know :/
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> kuser51,  install the compiz packages.
[01:42] <Red_Tear> anybody realy want to talk with an drunken one?wriote me
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> wheres the bot when you need it.
[01:44] <katja> After installing kde4-core, how do I start it instead of KDE 3?
[01:44] <Red_Tear> lets fuck
[01:45] <Apple_Cat_> hrm, no ops around ?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Bot is lagged/dead also.
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> !ops Red_Tear
[01:45] <bubba> i'm having problem playing wma songs..
[01:46] <BluesKaj> bubba, on the net or wma files ?
[01:46] <bubba> a cd audio
[01:46] <bubba> kafeine and amarok have trouble playing it
[01:47] <BluesKaj> bubba, at any rate, get VLC player ...it plays them all
[01:47] <yao_ziyuan> where can i download the default wallpaper used in kubuntu 8.04?
[01:47] <yao_ziyuan> i'm now using kubuntu 7.10
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> How is a cd audio a wma file?
[01:47] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: ...but have its own issues ;)
[01:47] <mixed> I am trying to grab data from a dying HD with xp on it, how can I mount the HD?  I hooked it up  to my distro with a USB adapter
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> yao_ziyuan,  perhaps kde-look.org has it?
[01:48] <bubba> well amarok plays it but every 10 sec it freeze lol
[01:48] <bubba> dr willis...thats what dolphin is showing me
[01:48] <bubba> wma songs
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> that shows they are audio files then. Not 'cd audio' :)
[01:49] <BluesKaj> mplayer will usually play wma files , bubba
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux --- has a tool to backup ntfs partitions.
[01:49] <yao_ziyuan> Dr_Willis: i searched kde-look.org for "hardy" and "8.04", not found.
[01:49] <bubba> there is but amarak freeze..and kaffeine just crashed
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> yao_ziyuan,  could install it with vmware then and steal the wallpaper.
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> yes
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> fortunately i haven't deleted the iso
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> but this iso is Hardy KDE Alpha 6
[01:50] <yao_ziyuan> is anyone with kubuntu 8.04 alpha with kde 3.5.8 now?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> i dont bend over too far backwards for just desktop wallpaper. :)
[01:51] <yao_ziyuan> Dr_Willis: kde4 isn't mature for east asia
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> I dont plan on using kde4 any time soon either. :)
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> its not too mature for the rest of the world either. :)
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> but its getting better
[01:53] <yao_ziyuan> are kubuntu 8.04 alphas available in FTP directories?
[01:53] <yao_ziyuan> maybe then i can fetch the individual wallpaper somewhere
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> yao_ziyuan,  easiest way would be go ask in #ubuntu+1 and see if someone will send it to you
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> i would.. but i have no idea what one is the default.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> i hated the default ubuntu one, so i keep nice simple wallpaper
[01:56] <yao_ziyuan> i can restore a lower resolution wallpaper from screenshots at http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Kubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20Alpha%205
[01:57] <yao_ziyuan> ha, it's here: http://www.vladstudio.com/wallpaper/?288
[01:57] <yao_ziyuan> has a waterprint
[01:57] <yao_ziyuan> but fine
[01:58] <yao_ziyuan> i know this russian artist VLADSTUDIO years ago
[01:58] <yao_ziyuan> i mean i used some of his artworks
[01:59] <yao_ziyuan> as wallpapers
[02:01] <yao_ziyuan> still i will download an iso for waterprint-less :)
[02:02] <bubba> why cant i play a dvd
[02:02] <bubba> i'm very new to kubunty
[02:02] <bubba> kubuntu
[02:07] <coreymon77> what the?
[02:07] <coreymon77> LjL: why did you just ban ubotu
[02:07] <LjL> because it's been not working for like six hours?
[02:08] <coreymon77> LjL: but why ban?
[02:08] <LjL> !test
[02:08] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[02:08] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[02:08] <ubotwo> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:18] <Ashex> where can I find icons for adept manager?
[02:19] <yao_ziyuan> i have a question
[02:19] <yao_ziyuan> i installed my ubuntu 7.10 + kubuntu-desktop this way:
[02:19] <yao_ziyuan> i was a windows xp user
[02:19] <yao_ziyuan> then i downloaded GRUB4DOS
[02:20] <yao_ziyuan> which is a boot loader that can load a minimum Ubuntu setup program "vmlinuz" which is part of Ubuntu's release
[02:21] <yao_ziyuan> it is a NETBOOT program, which means after it is loaded by GRUB4DOS, it will download Ubuntu installation files online
[02:21] <yao_ziyuan> then, i first let it install "Base System",
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> which i assume is a basic debian
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> then, i go into this base system,
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> and entered:
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <coreymon77> yao_ziyuan: no, base debian is base debiam
[02:22] <coreymon77> debian*
[02:22] <coreymon77> yao_ziyuan: base ubuntu is base ubuntu
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[02:22] <yao_ziyuan> that doesn't matter
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> then i start the computer into kubuntu
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> my problem is:
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> if i open KSystemGuard,
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> i see many processes "duplicated"
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> for example, i see two "scim-launcher"
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> two "pdflush"
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> two "kdm"
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> is that normal?
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> i think two kdm's are not normal...
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> two avahi-daemon
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> two bluetoothd-serv
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> three dbus-daemon
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> 6 getty
[02:25] <yao_ziyuan> 4 hald-addon-keyb
[02:25] <yao_ziyuan> 2 konqueror
[02:25] <yao_ziyuan> let me put it straight:
[02:26] <yao_ziyuan> i think ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop configured many programs to start twice...
[02:27] <yao_ziyuan> does anyone also see 2 kdm's in ksysguard?
[02:27] <coreymon77> that wouldnt make sense, ubuntu doesnt use kdm, it uses gdm
[02:27] <coreymon77> by default atleast
[02:27] <yao_ziyuan> well,
[02:28] <yao_ziyuan> i do see these two kdm's are executed with different commands:
[02:28] <yao_ziyuan> one is: /usr/bin/kdm
[02:28] <yao_ziyuan> the other is: -:0
[02:30] <yao_ziyuan> then i googled and found it might be normal
[02:30] <yao_ziyuan> the first result says:
[02:30] <yao_ziyuan> bsdforums.org - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, MacOS X, Darwin, Linux ...Oh about two kdm thing.... I think there is nothing wrong with that... I mean in my system I also have two kdm as well.... This is true for xdm as well. ...
[02:30] <yao_ziyuan> www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4832.html - 9k -
[02:54] <Combatjuan> I'm using KDE4 and it's lovely but none of the compositing effects seem to be on.  Is there a master switch for them somewhere?  I've enabled them in several of the System Settings pages.
[02:55] <hitmanWilly> is it set up in xorg.conf to enable compositing?
[02:55] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I did set up xorg.conf to use the real nvidia driver and to enable glx and dri.  Is compositing a module?
[02:56] <hitmanWilly> nah, its a switch you pass to the graphics card section....hold on a sec...
[02:57] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Thanks.  Is this something having to do with xrender?
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> don't think so, but you need to add <Option "Composite" "Enable"> under the graphics card section of xorg.conf
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> that's IIRC
[02:59] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: That's in the Device section?  And it doesn't matter what driver is being used?
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> that's for either the 3d accelerated versions of the nvidia or ati drivers, and yes, in the device section
[03:00] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Ok.  I'll give X a restart.  Thanks.
[03:00] <hitmanWilly> np man
[03:01] <cuzntx> !botsnack
[03:01] <ubotwo> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> lol, slow tonight I see
[03:01] <bubba> i tried to get medibuntu and now i cant open the apt installer
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> !aptfix
[03:03] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:04] <bubba> ty
[03:05] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Hmmm... No change.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (WW) NVIDIA Option "Composite" is not used.
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, well, let me see what I can dig up....
[03:06]  * hitmanWilly is a windowmaker user...lol
[03:06] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Thanks.  The odd thing is (and maybe this is just vim being silly) Composite is syntax highlighted like it is a keyword.
[03:07] <takwak>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:07] <takwak> ....
[03:07] <takwak> oops
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> ok, sorry app crashed on me...guess that's what I get for being on my windows partition...lol
[03:09] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Ha.  No problem.
[03:10] <hitmanWilly> anyway, vim recoignizes composite as a keyword because it is in xorg syntax
[03:11] <hitmanWilly> and I'm pretty sure buntu vim comes with all the syntax modules pre-installed
[03:11] <hitmanWilly> anyway, let me do some googling right quick
[03:11] <icanhasadmin> heh, good thing you didn't say your apss
[03:11] <icanhasadmin> *pass
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> hmm, looks like it might be a bug
[03:14] <Dai_Elsewhere> has anyone reliably gotten compiz working with the x200?
[03:14] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Hmmm... With my nVidia driver or kde4 or what?
[03:15] <acee1234> how do i get dvd playback working?
[03:15] <Dai_Elsewhere> !dvd | acee1234
[03:15] <ubotwo> acee1234: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> ok, hold on, i was being stupid, that Option "Composite" "Enable" needs to go in extensions
[03:16] <Dai_Elsewhere> ah, i'll check on that in the forums
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> Combatjuan: as in:
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection
[03:17] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Is that a section?  Session "Extensions"\nOption "Composite" "Enable"\nEndSection
[03:17] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: You're the man.  Thanks.
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> lol, again, don't use a lot of desktop effects, as I'm a minimalist...lol
[03:18] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: I don't plan to abuse them much but I'm a pretty big fan of transparent stuffs.
[03:18] <acee1234> Dai_Elsewhere: libdvdcss2 is already installed
[03:20] <Y-Town> I am trying to set up the package no-ip and it doesnt work... anyone got it to work?
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> !info no-ip
[03:21] <Dai_Elsewhere> i'll return later
[03:21] <acee1234> got it
[03:21] <Dr`Coon> can someone answer my question please
[03:21] <Y-Town> hitmanWilly: thats not a good start  :o)
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> what was your question again, Dr`Coon?
[03:22] <Dr`Coon> from this website: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ do i download the 64 bit version if I have a core 2 duo
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> i'd say stick with 32, less compatibility issues
[03:22] <Dr`Coon> ok
[03:22] <Dr`Coon> thanks
[03:23] <hitmanWilly> Y-Town: well, i've never used it so I couldn't tell you :(
[03:24] <Y-Town> hitmanWilly: any ideas of what to use to remote login to a system on dhcp?
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> ssh?
[03:25] <Y-Town> hitmanWilly: I mean for ftp and web server
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> oh, i'd say try gftp for client side
[03:26] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: I'm not sure whether to be encouraged or discouraged.  /var/log/xorg.0.log says that compositing is now enabled but there has been no change to anything's appearance.  I'm trying to add random effects from System Settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects but nothing wants to be pretty.
[03:26] <Dr`Coon> also, im planning on installing Kubuntu on a drive with winXP already.  will the live install have a partitioner so that I can partition before install?
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> did you add the ARGBGlx visuals line?
[03:27] <Jucato> Combatjuan: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 for help with KDE 4 effects
[03:27] <Combatjuan> Jucato: Oh!  Thanks.
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> Dr`Coon: yes, but its a destructive partitioner IIRC
[03:28] <hitmanWilly> as in it has to wipe the whole drive to re=partition
[03:28] <Dr`Coon> i heard partition magic will give me problems in unbuntu
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> it shouldn't if you leave the partition blank and format on install
[03:29] <Dr`Coon> ORLY?
[03:29] <Dr`Coon> thanks man you're a big help
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> just backup anything you can't lose beforehand, just in case
[03:30] <Dr`Coon> ok good call
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> partitioning is always a tricky business
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> oh god, root with a double _ means there's at least 2 other people here logged in as root...
[03:33] <icanhasadmin> lol@ hitmanWilly
[03:33] <nanothief> I want to write a html mail by entering the raw html (instead of using the editor) with kmail. How do you do this?
[03:34] <hitmanWilly> try just typing it in to the window, should work IIRC
[03:34] <nanothief> yeah I tried that, but when I opened the sent email, you just see the raw html
[03:34] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[03:35] <hitmanWilly> open and close <html></html> in the message, right?
[03:35] <nanothief> yep
[03:36] <hitmanWilly> oh wait, kmail doesn't render html code by default IIRC
[03:36] <nanothief> I opened the email with gmail, and it still happened though
[03:36] <hitmanWilly> oh, well crap then....
[03:37] <Combatjuan> Jucato: I think they're all pretty asleep in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:37] <Combatjuan> nanothief: Yes, kmail doesn't render HTML by default.  That's my favorite feature it has.
[03:37] <nanothief> hmmm I've had a lot of problems with kmail and html, maybe it just doesn't like that sort of mail :P
[03:38] <nanothief> Combatjuan: is that for sending or receiving email?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> Combatjuan: did you add Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" under the screen section?
[03:39] <Combatjuan> nanothief: Receiving.
[03:39] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: No.  I'll try that as well.
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> kk
[03:40] <nanothief> Combatjuan: ahh well my problem is with sending, so its probably not a cause of it
[03:41] <prince_jammys> nanothief: try enabling html messages in kmail and then sending that same html message to yourself
[03:42] <prince_jammys> the problem is most likely in receiving the messages
[03:45] <nanothief> prince_jammys: it still comes up as raw text, (with html enabled), and the same happens in gmail
[03:47] <nanothief> there must be some sort of header that is sent with html emails to inform the reader that it is html
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> nanothief: well, you could try adding the html file as an attachment
[03:49] <nanothief> hitmanWilly: well that worked, I guess I'll stick with that then
[03:49] <nanothief> thanks
[03:51] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: I finally got it.  It seemed to be the combination of Extensions:Composite enabled and Device:EnableCompositeWithGLX enabled and perhaps also AddARGBGLXEnabled true.
[03:51] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Thanks for your help.
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> np, good for you getting it working :)
[03:52] <Combatjuan> hitmanWilly: Oh, and you might want to reconsider your minimalist ways.  It's quite gorgeous.
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> id never even open X if I didn't have so many graphical apps that use it
[03:53]  * hitmanWilly misses the cmd line only days
[03:53] <nanothief> yeah, the most beautiful thing on my computer is my $PS1 variable
[03:53] <hitmanWilly> lol
[03:55] <Lovecats> hi all :D
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> sup
[03:55] <Lovecats> i just got a cheap laptop from costco (gateway ml6231) and my ubuntu install (7.10) went great..
[03:55] <Lovecats> one issue, however... it doesnt see my wireless card
[03:56] <Lovecats> should the addition of a wireless card be, more or less, automatic assuming its pnp or does this generally require an extra step?
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> depends on the chipset
[03:56] <Lovecats> well im looking at the gateway specs...
[03:57] <Lovecats> Intel 943GML
[03:57] <Lovecats> let me guess.. im screwed :D
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> intel, should work but you might have to install the proprietary drivers for it
[03:57] <Lovecats> kk
[03:58] <Lovecats> i hope i can use my card reader by default to facilitate easy transfer of the drivers to my laptop
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> let me check google right quick
[03:58] <Lovecats> kthx :D
[03:58] <Lovecats> lol ubuntu is so much better than vista :D
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> agreed...lol
[03:58] <Lovecats> :)
[03:59] <Lovecats> i havent tried to install linux since back in the "good ole days" of the mid 90s :D
[03:59] <Lovecats> so i must say that, even though the wireless drivers were unsuccesfull, everything else was a snap!
[04:00] <wargoth> hi all. i've got a problem with KDE 3.5.9. I've recently updated my 7.10. now all icons on desktop are from the root folder (not from the ~/Desktop folder) . What's wrong?
[04:00] <Lovecats> dam i just realized the only memory card i have is CF and my laptop doesnt support it :D
[04:01] <k4ever> can someone point me in the right direction.  i need my wireless interface to start on boot.  it uses wpa encryption.  the configuration in systemsettings is only set up for wep
[04:01] <Lovecats> sorry k4 im a noob :D
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> k4ever: you need wpasupplicant probably
[04:02] <k4ever> hitmanWilly:  I have wpasupplicant installed
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> Lovecats: can you pastebin the ouput of "lshw -C network" please?
[04:02] <Lovecats> ok
[04:02] <Lovecats> one sec
[04:02] <Lovecats> i might have to type it in :D
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> !paste
[04:02] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <wargoth> any ideas about KDE 3.5.9? where can i find a config that points KDE to my ~/Desktop folder?
[04:03] <Lovecats> hitmanWilly
[04:03] <Lovecats> can u message me in a private window?
[04:03] <Lovecats> pls :d
[04:05] <Lovecats> hitman it says i must register +X
[04:05] <hitmanWilly> yeah, freenode makes you register your nicks for priv msges
[04:05] <wargoth> :'(
[04:05] <Lovecats> i just tried a DCC chat
[04:05] <Lovecats> do you have yahoo?
[04:06] <coreymon77> hitmanWilly: not necessarily
[04:06] <coreymon77> hitmanWilly: anyone can pm me
[04:06] <Lovecats> i can not
[04:06] <coreymon77> Lovecats: yes you can
[04:06] <icanhasadmin> I'm having a problem getting fglrx to take properly.. stuck in mesa.. any takers?
[04:06] <Lovecats> i tried to open a chat with him and i get the following
[04:06] <Lovecats> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[04:07] <coreymon77> you can pm me
[04:07] <icanhasadmin> Lovecats: you need to be a registerd user :P
[04:07] <Lovecats> well dam :D
[04:07] <icanhasadmin> try "/msg nickserv register <password>"
[04:07] <bubba> i have downloaded all plugins i believe....but it fails to open the dvd :(
[04:07] <coreymon77> Lovecats: try pming me
[04:08] <bubba> failed to open dvd://1.
[04:10] <coreymon77> icanhasadmin: anyone can pm me
[04:11] <Lovecats> lol now im registered and hitman is gone :D
[04:16] <bryan> l
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> ok, sorry, technical issues, back now
[04:18] <Lovecats> hi hitman :D
[04:18] <Lovecats> good news
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:18] <Lovecats> i at least got my laptop connected
[04:18] <Lovecats> using an ethernet cable
[04:18] <Lovecats> so i can download drivers as necessary :D
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> ok, nice
[04:18] <Lovecats> does ubuntu have irc by default?
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> yes
[04:18] <Lovecats> sweetness
[04:18] <Lovecats> lemme go find it :D
[04:18] <Lovecats> brb
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> konversation
[04:19] <MrJoey> Ubuntu (not the K one) has X-Chat instead of Konversation
[04:20] <holycow> although you can run both on either desktop, just a heads up
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> yeah, this is the kubuntu channel tho...lol
[04:26] <bubba> can anyone help me with my multimedia...i cant play audio or dvds
[04:26] <bubba> audio cd will play but will freeze every 10 sec
[04:26] <bubba> dvd wont open
[04:28] <bubba> =-O
[04:37] <jcgkffycs> what is ubatu's name? I am trying to run !dolphin
[04:45] <blas> espaniol
[04:47] <prince_jammys> !es | blas
[04:47] <ubotwo> blas: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:49] <Azodon> hello just install kubuntu-desktop, from gnome, everything is great just my volume doesnt work, the volume bar moves but nothing adjust. i can open the mixer and change it but it's not the pcm switch i have to move
[04:52] <gtt> anyone got any tips on how to find duplicate files?
[04:52] <gtt> fslint-gui kind of stinks
[04:53] <gtt> it finds the files, but deleting the dupes is a pain
[05:18] <draik> Is there an app for voice recognition?
[05:20] <maduser> via voice?
[05:20] <draik> maduser: Ummm... yeah.
[05:23] <Y-Town> I have a constant battle with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse loosing connection everytime I reboot.  The mouse keyboard combo is a logitech mx5000 that uses a bluetooth usb adapter..   Anyone know of a fix or known issues?
[05:23] <coreymon77> happy smash bros day everyone
[05:23] <coreymon77> !
[05:23] <maduser> its out?
[05:24] <coreymon77> yup
[05:24] <maduser> the stores must be mobbed
[05:24] <coreymon77> maduser: my local independent store prob is
[05:24] <coreymon77> maduser: midnight release
[05:24] <maduser> nice
[05:24] <tomcloyd> Good evening. First time here. Was sent here from #radiant (radiant is a ruby cms), as it appears that somehow my path/ENV is messed up (according to the helper who's been working with me). The context is ruby - I've installed the radiant rubygem, but the OS can't seem to find it when I issue "$: radiant...." commands. I honestly have NO idea how to fix this. My rubygems look OK - I see them...
[05:24] <tomcloyd> ...in /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/, but...
[05:24] <tomcloyd> $ gem list --local
[05:24] <coreymon77> maduser: thankfully, i befriended the owner, i have a copy held for me indefinitely
[05:24] <tomcloyd> /usr/bin/gem:23: uninitialized constant Gem::GemRunner (NameError)
[05:24] <tomcloyd> shows that the gems are lost to the system. Would appreciate any help.
[05:25] <maduser> wtf?
[05:26] <coreymon77> maduser: so, even though i cant get out to the midnight release, ill just go first thing tomorrow morning and pick it up
[05:26] <coreymon77> maduser: it helps when you befriend the owner of your local independent game store
[05:29] <draik> Are there any good games for Linux. I prefer FPS-type games
[05:29] <maduser> postal 2
[05:29] <draik> Postal 2?
[05:29] <draik> Sounds familiar...
[05:29] <maduser> hehe
[05:29] <maduser> I found a linux version
[05:30] <maduser> don't as how
[05:30] <maduser> but it was a bin file where you typed ./postal2 and it went
[05:30] <maduser> have you ever played it?
[05:35] <draik> maduser: Nope. I recall the Postal got my attention. Looking up Postal 2 installs for Linux
[05:44] <draik> Anyone here with a dell laptop?
[05:44] <draik> I cannot manage to stop the screen from going black
[05:44] <draik> It's fine when I boot up.
[05:44] <draik> Once I use CTRL+ALT+L, the screen goes black after ~5min
[05:47] <draik> Rather, once I return from using CTRL+ALT+L
[06:07] <morghanphoenix>  Anyone know what the problem is here, trying to play a mkv file and this is all that mplayer xone or vlc will give me. I've installed both libraries listed on the matroska page so I don't know what's wrong with my video, any ideas? http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s294/morghanphoenix/Errors/snapshot1.png
[06:09] <Arwen> now compiling amarok..
[06:24] <yao_ziyuan> i did it!
[06:24] <yao_ziyuan> everyone can download the default wallpaper (no waterprint) of kubuntu 8.04 now:
[06:24] <yao_ziyuan> http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuwallpapergn5.jpg
[06:36] <coreymon77> yao_ziyuan: what did you do, photoshop?
[06:36] <coreymon77> yao_ziyuan: photoshopped the watermark out?
[06:36] <yao_ziyuan> no
[06:36] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntu 8.04 doesn't have the watermark
[06:36] <yao_ziyuan> vladstudio's copy has
[07:14] <chidam> hi,i'm having a problem running shell scripts
[07:14] <chidam> can anyone help?
[07:15] <chidam> !sh
[07:15] <ubotwo> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:22] <abortd> !compiz
[07:22] <ubotwo> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:22] <abortd> !compiz-fusion
[07:23] <storbeck> #trivia anyone?
[07:25] <chidam_> can anyone help me with running scripts,i'm new to konsole....
[07:33] <mauricio> hi everone
[07:50] <kuser51> hello my fellow kubunteros
[07:50] <kuser51> please help me to update my kde3 to kde4
[07:54] <emilsedgh> !kde4 | kuser51
[07:54] <ubotwo> kuser51: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:57] <kuser51> how to resolve my apt
[07:58] <kuser51> i can't op3n in gui
[07:58] <kuser51> please help me to resolve
[08:00] <kuser51> please help me to resolve apt, update
[08:00] <kuser51> under terminal console
[08:00] <kuser51> how fix my apt
[08:00] <pushax> kuser51: type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:01] <pushax> that will force dpkg to configure any packages that haven't been addressed from a previous crash or what ever
[08:02] <pushax> the echo should tell you if there is any conflict/errors
[08:04] <allyourrejects> 64bit kubuntu 7.1 only sees 3gig of my 4 gigs of ram,  why is that?
[08:06] <pushax> allyourrejects: maybe for the same reason why Vista 64bit doesn't either
[08:06] <allyourrejects> it sees 5 gigs in my other pc...
[08:07] <allyourrejects> i think...  now that i think about it, i've never actually looked
[08:07] <pushax> sorry Vista 32bit only sees 3gb
[08:07] <allyourrejects> yes, linux 32bit 4 gigs would be 1gb kernel, 3 gb user space
[08:08] <allyourrejects> crap.. same problem on other pc
[08:08] <allyourrejects> oh wait.. nvrmind.  its remote and booted into 32bit atm
[08:09] <allyourrejects> guess i don't have another pc to check this on :(
[08:09] <allyourrejects> bios shows 4gb though, so did vista
[08:09] <pushax> http://www.softwarevoices.com/archives/53-Only-seeing-3GB-of-RAM-on-Ubuntu-7.04-Feisty-when-4GB-are-installed-SOLUTION.html
[08:10] <pushax> maybe you need the server version of the kernel to egt the greater memory.  do the research though as I'm jumping on tip bits
[08:10] <allyourrejects> switching to server kernel?
[08:11] <pushax> ask about the problem in #ubuntu
[08:11] <allyourrejects> huh...  they must select the less than 4gb optoin when they compile non-server
[08:11] <allyourrejects> interesting.  thanks
[08:11] <pushax> hmm maybe.  I've never personally tinkered witht hat amount of emmory yet.  but interested.
[08:12] <pushax> np
[08:12] <allyourrejects> i've yet to use all 4gb ;)
[08:12] <harmental> hey guys...why are the xemacs menus and fonts so UGLY in linux?
[08:12] <allyourrejects> not even close.
[08:13] <allyourrejects> pushax: 3gb of "cached" stuff is nice though
[08:13] <allyourrejects> specially since the default install is just under 3gb
[08:13] <pushax> harmental: the looks are as good as you install fonts and setup your desktop.
[08:14] <pushax> allyourrejects: ehehe flexibility is also good.  like pushing and popping between the whole ram
[08:15] <pushax> allyourrejects: Alpha6 Hardy Heron is really good.  Alot fo improvements.  I heard they are reserving the bottom 64k to protect the sytem but I haven't learnt enough about how the kernel works.  I've never heard of a 1/4 take for the kernel, if that's what you're implying
[08:16] <harmental> pushax: i know i have the exact same configuration of xemacs at home (kubuntu) and at the lab (win) and the win version looks a lot prettier....especially the menus....and the fonts definition (in kubuntu they seem kinda pixelized)
[08:17] <pushax> harmental:  have you turned on antialiasing?
[08:18] <harmental> pushax: how do i do that?
[08:18] <allyourrejects> pushax: 1/4 is always been that way on 32bit
[08:18] <pushax> harmental: as you probably know there are two phases of setting the configuration,  one at the systyem-root level and one for your own.  System aore apps may use the root settings
[08:19] <allyourrejects> pushax: if you select "less than 4gb" when compiling, the kernel help even states what action will take place with the split
[08:19] <pushax> allyourrejects: ok.  I've onyl been on linux for a month.  I used to run a rehad server about 10+ years ago, though.
[08:19] <pushax> allyourrejects: ok.  something new learnt
[08:20] <allyourrejects> there is less than 4, more than 4, and more than 6  options i think.. I haven't looked in about 6 months though
[08:20] <pushax> allyourrejects: are you doing your own kernel building?
[08:20] <allyourrejects> not for a very long time
[08:20] <allyourrejects> We do build kernels at work though
[08:21] <mi> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7379/snapshot8pd2.png
[08:21] <mi> :)
[08:21] <allyourrejects> for embedded devices though, so... memory usage page is almost never viewed.  We are lucky to have 32mb
[08:22] <harmental> pushax: i think i am not following you....
[08:22] <allyourrejects> upgrading to latest hardy at the moment, see if they changed it :)
[08:22] <bjacob> kubuntu hardy here; wlan (iwl3945) doesn't work anymore since upgrade to linux 2.6.24-11-generic. any idea?
[08:22] <pushax> harmental:  I'm saying maybe you ahven't configured your root level fonts and settings.
[08:22] <allyourrejects> bjacob: i would check and make sure your /lib/firmware files are still good
[08:23] <harmental> where can i set the root fonts and stuff???
[08:23] <bjacob> thanks allyourrejects. how could I tell whether they're good ?
[08:23] <harmental> (i didnt know that....)
[08:23] <ere4si> mi, nice dark theme :)
[08:23] <mi> ere4si: in kde4 everything is nice
[08:23] <ere4si> :)
[08:23] <allyourrejects> bjacob: read the logs (dmesg) and see if you see anything failing to load firmware related to iwl3945
[08:24] <pushax> mi:  nice kde4
[08:24] <mi> tq
[08:24] <ere4si> mi, posted on the forums gallery?
[08:25] <bjacob> allyourrejects: dmesg does not mention any problem.
[08:25] <mi> u can i not member
[08:25] <allyourrejects> bjacob: does the card show in iwconfig?
[08:25] <mi> ( gnome,kde,kde4,xfce here)
[08:25] <bjacob> allyourrejects: yes, and i can scan networks
[08:25] <ere4si> mi, easy to register - then lots can see you're work :)
[08:26] <mi> ok
[08:26] <allyourrejects> bjacob: and network show up and stuff?
[08:26] <bjacob> allyourrejects: however knetworkmanager stays at "28%" when trying to associate
[08:26] <bjacob> yes they show up
[08:26] <bjacob> it worked with 2.6.24-8
[08:27] <allyourrejects> bjacob: well... it could be a driver issue..  try moving closer to the AP ?
[08:27] <bjacob> already tried :)
[08:27] <allyourrejects> alwas 28%?
[08:27] <bjacob> yes
[08:28] <bjacob> i also tried broascasting SSID and disabling security (WPA). No change
[08:28] <allyourrejects> that sux...  cause I doubt anything really changed with the driver in the -# releases
[08:28] <pushax> bjacob: I noticed that if your hosts file is badly setup on hardy heron the network will seem like the drivers are broken, rather than simply not connecting.  check your /etc/hosts
[08:28] <allyourrejects> maybe the firmware changed?
[08:30] <bjacob> pushax: there was a typo in my hosts. fixed. now how do i apply changes? is reboot necessary?
[08:30] <bjacob> allyourrejects: let me check...
[08:30] <allyourrejects> bjacob: don't worry about it. if there was a typo pushax might be right
[08:30] <allyourrejects> pushax: experienced that i guess ?
[08:31] <pushax> I'm using hardy heron here.  great step from 7.10
[08:31] <allyourrejects> I have a problem with my launcher menu
[08:31] <bjacob> allyourrejects: firmware files didn't change
[08:32] <allyourrejects> err  "System Menu"  applet
[08:32] <allyourrejects> when i select "Storage Media", it says malformed URL "media:/
[08:32] <allyourrejects> i guess its been renamed to  system:/media/
[08:32] <allyourrejects> works inside dolphin, just not in the System Menu applet
[08:33] <pushax> sound like you have been kdesu dolphin
[08:33] <allyourrejects> this is fresh install
[08:33] <allyourrejects> "home folder" is the only link in "System Menu" applet that works
[08:34] <pushax> hhehe.  don't you love it
[08:34] <jussi01> allyourrejects: are you on hardy?
[08:34] <allyourrejects> then i can use the dolphin selector on the left to select "Storage Media"
[08:34] <allyourrejects> jussi01: yeah, thats what pushax and I were talking about
[08:34] <allyourrejects> pushax: other than that, yes. very nice
[08:34] <pushax> allyourrejects: I though you said earlier you were on 7.10
[08:34] <jussi01> allyourrejects: ahh, cool. would you mind taking it over to #ubuntu+1 then? :) thanks
[08:34] <allyourrejects> pushax: thats the laptop
[08:35] <allyourrejects> jussi01: i see, ok
[08:36] <pushax> jussi we onyl touched on hardy.  we've been talking general kubuntu other words
[08:36] <jussi01> pushax: your fine, just was asking for the hardy part to be taken to #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:44] <pushax> allyourrejects: does the server kernel reduce feature on graphic desktop side?
[08:45] <allyourrejects> pushax: shouldn't make a difference really
[08:46] <allyourrejects> i would say that the some of the default scheduler stuff, and memory settings are setup for more serverish tasks. like about 4gb, and maybe no preemptive kernel
[08:46] <pushax> k.  I guess it's onyl differnt fron the get-go.  then it's upto what you install.
[08:47] <pushax> brb
[08:47] <nanothief> what a good program to send keystrokes to applications? I tried xautomation, but it didn't seem to work well with Control+<somekey> keypresses
[08:47] <allyourrejects> nanothief: kde has a virtual keyboard, or do you need it automated?
[08:48] <nanothief> I need it automated, would be great if it could be used form a bash script
[08:48] <age80> how can i connect to an open wireless network????
[08:48] <nanothief> like autohotkey for windows
[08:51] <cpk1> age80: use iwlist scan to scan for networks and then use iwconfig to connect to it
[08:54] <age80> thanx cpk1
[08:54] <heng> hello anyone know how to install codec in kubuntu?
[08:54] <heng> Iḿ newbie
[08:55] <cpk1> age80: iwconfig needs more than just iwconfig though, i think its like iwconfig wlan0 ap unsecuredaccesspointhere
[08:55] <cpk1> heng: most likely the codec you need is in the repositories
[08:56] <jussi01> !codecs | heng
[08:56] <ubotwo> heng: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:58] <jay_> Hi does anyone know anythng about DDclient?
[08:58] <jay_> i am tryign to setup DDCLIENT and need some help
[08:59] <jussi01> jay_: ddclient is for noip right?
[08:59] <jay_> its used for updating a dyndns account IP
[08:59] <jussi01> yeah
[08:59] <jay_> so if the ip changes it updates the ip to the url
[08:59] <jussi01> whats the issue?
[08:59] <jussi01> Ive used it before
[09:00] <jay_> ok well i have installed it, and ran it but need to know how to make it update?
[09:00] <jay_> it updates if i force and update but not like evry 10 minutes
[09:00] <jay_> i need it to update its self automatticly
[09:00] <jussi01> I think there is something in the config file iirc
[09:00] <jay_> yes i have read about that let me take a look in my terminal
[09:00] <kblin> hi folks
[09:01] <jussi01> hi
[09:01] <kblin> is there some way to get a konsole window to reset the title after disconnecting from a remote host?
[09:01] <jay_> ok bare with me im new with this and young so is that file in etc/
[09:02] <jussi01> jay_: where was the config file you played with for your other settings?
[09:02] <jay_> just in /dev
[09:02] <jay_> nope /etc
[09:02] <jussi01> it should be the same file i think
[09:02] <jay_> ok
[09:02] <jay_> what do you say the file is called?
[09:03] <jussi01> i dont remember
[09:03] <heng> ? !codecs
[09:03] <jay_> yes i have the dir with ddclient.conf
[09:03] <jay_> ok
[09:03] <heng> thannks mate
[09:03] <jussi01> but you shuld know, where did you put the settings when you set it up?
[09:03] <jussi01> heng: you are welcome
[09:03] <jay_> in /etc/ddclient.conf
[09:08] <jussi01> jay_: I would expect the setting is there somewhere
[09:09] <jussi01> jay_: if you like, you could paste bin the file - without any passwords of course and i could take a look
[09:09] <jussi01> !paste
[09:09] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <pushax>  is quota and quotatool the in thing still for disk quota management?
[09:11] <pushax> reading an older book which is talking about it.  I want to install the ebst stuff.
[09:12] <pushax> nevermind
[09:12] <pushax> lcd working Ville?
[09:15] <VilleVicious> sadn;y, no
[09:17] <VilleVicious> I installed the restricted drivers and restarted to computer it gave me the Kubuntu loading bar and after that just a black screen
[09:17] <VilleVicious> I\m on live/cd now
[09:18] <pushax> are you using the generic lcd monitor driver?
[09:19] <jussi01> VilleVicious: could you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the hdd for me?
[09:19] <pushax> VilleVicious: in the live CD you know you can mount the real HD with linux on it and chancge files to fix the problem
[09:20] <kuser51> how to activate my bootscreen
[09:21] <pushax> kuser51: ?
[09:22] <kuser51> yes i am here
[09:22] <kuser51> to wait
[09:22] <pushax> kuser51: I mean what did you mean about your bootscreen
[09:23] <kuser51> my bootsplash
[09:23] <kuser51> threre appear black screen, how enabled....
[09:23] <kuser51> darkside of the moon
[09:23] <pushax> type kcontrol and setup your settings
[09:25] <pushax> kuser51: there's two sides of settings,the systems's and you owwn user ones,  so setup 'kcontrol' first, then dot he systems with 'kdesu kcontrol'
[09:25] <VilleVicious> when I tried to mount the harddrive it gives me this error> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[09:25] <kuser51> so what i can to activate my boot splash
[09:25] <pushax> VilleVicious: mount it as root.  make a directory in super user mode, in /media
[09:27] <pushax> VilleVicious: then mount the the hd forthat directory.  example type #sudo mkdir /media/tempmount
[09:27] <pushax> VilleVicious: then mount the hd in ext3 mode in that directory made with write access
[09:29] <VilleVicious> whats the coomand for the mounting_
[09:29] <pushax> VilleVicious: once you work out the mounting.  then view or edit the xorg.conf file with #kdesu kate
[09:30] <pushax> VilleVicious: use the kcontrol area as it's easier
[09:31] <chrissy> hello everyone
[09:31] <pushax> hi
[09:32] <chrissy> i want to change from winxp to kubuntu next weekend. now i am searching for eventually appearing problems
[09:33] <chrissy> can i still use my saitek gamers keyboard with its command pad ?
[09:33] <pushax> chrissy: appearing problems?
[09:34] <chrissy> like my mouse isn't working correct anymore
[09:34] <pushax> chrissy: have you tried to goggle to see if others have the keyboard?
[09:34] <chrissy> yes
[09:34] <pushax> Chrissy check your xorg.conf file and see the mouse area.  can you paste the section here?
[09:35] <pushax> chrissy:  /etc/xorg.conf
[09:35] <chrissy> to try, i have to wait for next week
[09:35] <jussi01> !shortcuts | chrissy
[09:35] <ubotwo> chrissy: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[09:35] <chrissy> i haven't installed kubuntu yet
[09:35] <jussi01> pushax: you are missing /X11/
[09:36] <pushax> chrissy: when you do I suggest getting Hardy Heron.  as it makes those coming from Windows mush easier.
[09:36] <pushax> My mistake, I forget /X11   /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:37] <chrissy> is this a version ob kubuntu, like gutsy ?
[09:37] <jussi01> hmmm, I wouldnt recomend alpha products to new pwople
[09:37] <jussi01> chrissy: yes
[09:37] <jussi01> !hardy
[09:37] <ubotwo> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[09:37] <chrissy> jussi01: what do u suggest then ?
[09:38] <pushax> Chrissy hardy heron is no offical and is considered unstable.  I use Hardy Heron version and it runs stable.  I wouldnt' suggest it if you want your comptuer for business though simply due to the status of it's release.
[09:38] <VilleVicious> How do I get superuser mode in dolphin
[09:38] <jussi01> chrissy: go with gutsy, as hardy can still have issues as its not yet finished. However, if you feel you can cope with the issues, then you can try hardy, but for stabiliy please go with gutsy for the momment
[09:39] <pushax> VilleVicious: kdesu dolphin
[09:39] <jussi01> VilleVicious: kdesudo  dolphin
[09:39] <chrissy> thx
[09:40] <pushax> VilleVicious: watch out though as in super user dolphin will try and does saves your settings as root.  later your user account wont be able to access to save.
[09:40] <pushax> VilleVicious: ok to do in Live mode, though
[09:42] <VilleVicious> it still gives ne the same error message
[09:43] <chrissy> how is the support for ati?
[09:43] <jussi01> chrissy: ok.
[09:44] <jussi01> as in it works
[09:44] <chrissy> so there shouldn't be any probs
[09:44] <jussi01> chrissy: ati makes it a little harder to put things like desktop effects on, but shouldnt be any major issues.
[09:44] <jussi01> which gfx card?
[09:45] <chrissy> 9600
[09:45] <chrissy> radeon 9600
[09:46] <jussi01> chrissy: hmmm, that needs fglrx driver. shouldnt be too hard to set up though
[09:47] <pushax> VilleVicious: make sure the directory you are mounting it to is root ownership.  then check the mount details.
[09:47] <pushax> VilleVicious: did you set your super user password with '#sudo passwd root'
[09:50] <chrissy> to use latex, do i have to install it or is it preinstalled ?
[09:51] <hola> i need help to configure my webcam
[09:52] <jussi01> chrissy: I think it needs to be installed, but installling stuff is simple in kubuntu
[09:54] <VilleVicious> it gives me tis error sudo: mkdir/media/tempmount: command not found
[09:54] <chrissy> i just read someting about koffice. what if someone sends me an excel-file. this format isnot supported by the prog. should i use openoffice instead ?
[09:56] <pushax> VilleVicious: space between mkdir and /media...
[09:58] <VilleVicious> damn typo
[09:59] <pushax> VilleVicious: make sure you also setup the super user password whilst in live mode.  then do a #kdesu kcontrol to get to the disk mounting gui
[09:59] <hola> i need help to configure my webcam
[09:59] <jussi01> !repeat | hola
[09:59] <ubotwo> hola: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:00] <hola> jussi01: ok sorry
[10:00] <hola> jussi01: it was a cut and paste
[10:01] <pushax> hola: A good start is to find out the chipset the cam uses.  or do goggle serches for others wiht your cam bandname and using ubunut or kubuntu
[10:01] <pushax> hola does it partially work or wont even detect?
[10:02] <xt828> a game i was running through wine crashed and now i can't change my desktop resolution from 800x600 - how can i fix this?
[10:03] <hola> pushax: i already try in all ways
[10:03] <hola> pushax: it is recognized only with lsusb
[10:03] <VilleVicious> where in kcontroll are the mounting tools
[10:03] <qiansan> holle
[10:03] <xt828> by can't, i mean i can go into system settings>monitor and display>admin mode and move the slider, but the resolution doesn't ever change
[10:04] <jussi01> xt828: have you tried restarting x?
[10:04] <pushax> hola: sometimes you can work things out by observing the kernel logs.  have you checked ksystemlog's kernel area?
[10:04] <VilleVicious> found it
[10:05] <jussi01> :)
[10:05] <xt828> jussi01: ctrl+alt+backspace?  if so, then yes
[10:05] <hola> pushax: of course
[10:06] <hola> pushax: /dev/video0 is not created
[10:06] <jussi01> xt828: did you have anything special in your xorg? or was it fairly standard?
[10:06] <xt828> standard iirc - using the restricted drivers for my nvidia card
[10:07] <jussi01> xt828: try in terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <pushax> hola: what's the brandname or the shipset of the camera?
[10:08] <VilleVicious> I have it now at mountpoint /media/tempmount/ but it is disabled how do I change that
[10:08] <hola> pushax: 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[10:10] <juan> hi all, how remove KDE i want install in other language spanish , i used synaptic
[10:10] <pushax> hola: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=Rox&q=%22Z-Star%22+%22linux%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[10:11] <pushax> juan: have you simply tried installing the spannish language?
[10:11] <juan> nop yet
[10:11] <juan> no prob if i istall on KDe english
[10:13] <pushax> juan shouldn't be.  just add the language files.
[10:13] <hola> pushax: there are a lot of link in this page. Which i have to refer?
[10:13] <juan> ok  ty
[10:14] <pushax> hola you'll have to do the leg work on that.  I noticed there was a sourceforge project for an eariler model
[10:15] <pushax> hola: narrower search  http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=Arx&q=%22Z-Star%22+%22linux%22+%22307b%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[10:16] <xt828> jussi01: is there a less complicated way to do it?  i don't know most of the stuff this is asking
[10:17] <jussi01> xt828: if you are unsure, just go with the default, I dont know most of that stuf either
[10:17] <hola> pushax: sorry im a begineer. What is leg work
[10:17] <pushax> hola: effort...   see this ; http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/zaapa-webcam-en-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon-2/
[10:17] <jussi01> xt828: you could also just unapply and then reapply the restricted drivers
[10:18] <hola> pushax: i already follow this guide in the past,,,,,but at the end the cam still to be not recognize..../dev/video is not created so the ma does not work
[10:18] <hola> pushax: i tried with all driver but this device is not created and i dont know why
[10:20] <pushax> hola: they talk about installing an older driver so that a newer one can be had.
[10:20] <pushax> hola: have you looked to see what modprobe module you ened to get it catered for?
[10:21] <hola> pushax: i istalled gspcav120071224.tar.gz but it does not work
[10:21] <pushax> hol: did the mamkign process all work?
[10:21] <pushax> hol: did the make process all work?
[10:22] <hola> pushax: if you have time for me, i can remake entire procedure and tell you step by step the result, is it fine?
[10:22] <pushax> hola.  ok.  I'm reading ont he side lines so it's not a bother.
[10:23] <hola> pushax: just a momnet i donwload again the driver
[10:24] <pushax> hola: the line "make sudo make install" should be "sudo make"  then wait then do the "sudo make install"
[10:25] <pushax> hola: try this first.  #sudo modprobe gspca
[10:25] <pushax> hola: maybe you already have support but just need to install the module.   Also search your packages in Adept for 'xserver' and see if there are xserver packs for camera.
[10:26] <hola> pushax: wait a menemt please
[10:28] <VilleVicious> I tried to mount the hd to /media/tempmount/ and it give s me the following error A
[10:28] <VilleVicious> n error occurred while enabling /media/tempmount/.
[10:28] <VilleVicious> The system reported: mount: /dev/sda3 already mounted or /media/tempmount/ busy
[10:28] <VilleVicious> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is mounted on /media/tempmount
[10:28] <hola> pushax: ok i did meke install
 hola:  do the process without the cam plugged in.  also once all done do a "#discover --enable--all", thats after you plug it in
[10:29] <ubuntu_> Bonjour
[10:29] <pushax> hola: no errors?
[10:29] <hola> pushax: wait please. have i to install xserv from adpet?
[10:30] <VilleVicious> ok so I have the Hd mounted what fide I needed to look up
[10:30] <jussi01> VilleVicious: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the hdd
[10:30] <dueperdue> ciao
[10:30] <pushax> hola: no I was asking if you could find any camera/webcam packages in Adept.  when you search for "xserver"
[10:30] <jussi01> !it | dueperdue
[10:30] <ubotwo> dueperdue: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:31] <dueperdue> ok, thancks
[10:31] <hola> pushax: i try to plug in it
[10:32] <VilleVicious> what line do I need to paste here
[10:32] <pushax> VilleVicious: now open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <VilleVicious> I have on Kate
[10:32] <pushax> VilleVicious: past ethe whole lot
[10:32] <VilleVicious> have it on kate
[10:32] <hola> pushax: discover --enable--all ive me :discover: unrecognized option `--enable--all'
[10:33] <jussi01> !paste | VilleVicious:
[10:33] <ubotwo> VilleVicious:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:33] <pushax> sudo discover...
[10:33] <hola> pushax: the same
[10:34] <pushax> villeVicious did you want my xorg.conf file?  it should work straight off on your machine.
[10:34] <VilleVicious> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58973/
[10:35] <hola> pushax: sudo discover -d --enable--all
[10:35] <hola> pushax: discover: unrecognized option `--enable--all'
[10:36] <pushax> VilleVicious: didn't you say your monitor could only do 1680x1050
[10:36] <pushax> hola: sudo discover --enable-all
[10:37] <hola> pushax: ok and now
[10:37] <pushax> check the camera.   did you also do the modprobe line?
[10:38] <hola> pushax: /dev/video does not exist
[10:39] <pushax> VilleVicious: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58975/   copy out my monitor sections and replace yours
[10:40] <pushax> hola: #sudo modprobe gspca
[10:40] <hola> pushax: already done
[10:42] <pushax> hola: you didn't answer before.  did you go through the whole process of the make?  like no errors?
[10:42] <Vhozard> anyone who knows howto reconfigure fstab?
[10:43] <hola> pushax: no error while make and make install
[10:43] <Vhozard> anyone who knows howto reconfigure fstab?
[10:44] <Corty> re
[10:44] <jussi01> !repeat | Vhozard
[10:44] <ubotwo> Vhozard: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:44] <pushax> hola: restart...
[10:44] <hola> pushax: what?
[10:44] <pushax> hola: restart your puter...
[10:45] <hola> pushax: if i restart my pc....gspca driver will not be load
[10:45] <llutz> Vhozard: what do you want to do? fstab is just a textfile, so use an editor to change it to your needs
[10:45] <jussi01> VilleVicious: do you have a second monitor?
[10:46] <pushax> hola: that's waht you ened to test agian. do a 'modprobe -l gspca*' can see if it stays
[10:46] <Vhozard> llutz, I know, but i fucked it up (i removed all UIDS and stuff)
[10:47] <llutz> Vhozard: why? ;)
[10:47] <hola> pushax: do you thinkd that at the next reast the /dev/video will be created?
[10:47] <ThomasD> okay, why when I want to uninstall KDE 4.0.2, it want do delete my kde3 installation to? using gutsy
[10:47] <Vhozard> llutz yeah, why? thats the question :)
[10:47] <pushax> hola: restarts can sometimes force a proper check on new items
[10:47] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[10:48] <VilleVicious> pushax I replaced my xorg.conf with yours
[10:48] <llutz> Vhozard: "blkid" gives you the UUIDs of the partitions, just recontruct it by hand
[10:48] <Vhozard> ThomasD no it won't, just do: sudo apt-get remove kde4-core
[10:48] <hola> pushax: with modprobe -l gspca will be resisdent?
[10:48] <pushax> VilleVicious: jsut make sure it has really saved before restarting
[10:48] <Vhozard> llutz i will try that
[10:49] <pushax> VilleVicious: the trick is to make sure you have the right bit-plane, resolution, and freq-rate, when dealign with monitor installs
[10:49] <ThomasD> Vhozard: but now only kde4-core is deleted, what about the other packages?
[10:50] <pushax> hola: that command only lists.  it will show if the modules stayed in after the restart
[10:50] <Vhozard> ThomasD: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:50] <ThomasD> Vhozard: that would only delete these packages: kdebase-workspace systemsettings-kde4 klipper-kde4
[10:50] <pushax> hola: if not then just reissue the modprobe line again.
[10:51] <hola> pushax: sorry, but i thinks that it will not stay
[10:51] <hola> pushax: probably it has to add in same configuration file
[10:51] <pushax> hola: you cna only test it since you have reinstalled.
[10:52] <pushax> hola: yes true you may need to add to the modiles conf
[10:52] <Vhozard> ThomasD open adept_manager and type kde4 and remove all packages
[10:52] <hola> pushax: why so you tell me that iit will stay in the next rest
[10:52] <hola> pushax: why so you tell me that iit will stay in the next restart
[10:52] <pushax> hola: module conf, but I was guessing the kernel would already have this as the article said 7.10 had parts of the support int he kernel
[10:52] <ThomasD> Vhozard: thats when it starts to take kde3 as dependency
[10:53] <pushax> hola: in fault finding you ahve to experience each stage to determine what is happening
[10:53] <pushax> hola: each stage of the path to fix the issue.
[10:54] <VilleVicious> It says I don\t have permission to write xorg.conf how do I get it?
[10:54] <Vhozard> ThomasD goto View changes (or sometging) and click on cancel changes for k3b
[10:54] <hola> pushax: ho cai i do that
[10:54] <pushax> hola: is sounds like you know what you're doing.  jsut add the module to your module area and then do the restart
[10:55] <hola> pushax: i think that without help i will not be able to do that
[10:55] <hola> pushax: thanks however
[10:56] <jussi01> VilleVicious: you need to open it as root
[10:57] <pushax> hola: np.  there maybe other issue why it's not working.  so you maybe doing all the right things but there maybe something broken else where.  you can only investigate and find out what's going on.
[10:58] <VilleVicious> how do i do that? type sudo kate and open it that way, or some other way?
[10:58] <Vhozard> VilleVicious no, type kdesu kate
[10:58] <hola> pushax: ok thk again
[10:58] <Vhozard> VilleVicious or for xorg, type: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:00] <jussi01> VilleVicious: make sure you open the xorg from your hdd, not the live cd
[11:00] <ThomasD> Vhozard: It's kde4libs-bin that's being a bitch, when I delete that one, it wants to take, k3b , kubuntu-desktop, gwenvieuw and much more
[11:04] <VilleVicious> Ok now it is done, Ill try restarting,  brb hopefully
[11:05] <Vhozard> ThomasD I have the exact same problem. just leave it installed, its not that big a deal
[11:05] <pushax> I hope the differnet bus doesn't give VilleViciosu any probs.  Mines PCIe.
[11:06] <jussi01> pushax: hmmm... hopefully
[11:06] <ThomasD> Vhozard: yeah, but I want to compile kde4 from thrunk, and these packages will cause problems
[11:06] <ThomasD> trunk
[11:06] <pushax> jussi01: I told him to only copy the monitor area, but the way he talked he did the whole lot.
[11:07] <jussi01> we should have told him to log into terminal and do a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:07] <jussi01> when he booted.
[11:08] <pushax> jussi01: there you go.   I'm no expert so..
[11:09] <pushax> jussi01: can one add to /etc a modprobe.conf and it will be read at startup?
[11:11] <jussi01> pushax: I _think_ so, cant quite remember, I ask mr google that one
[11:11] <pushax> jussi01: hehe np. I'll do the leg work on that
[11:12] <villevicious> No success
[11:13] <Vhozard> ThomasD why do you want to compile from trunk? are you living on the edge?
[11:14] <ThomasD> Vhozard: yes, I am ^^
[11:14] <ThomasD> Vhozard: want to compile amarok2 from trunk so I have no other choice
[11:15] <Vhozard> ThomasD oh, i understand
[11:15] <villevicious> now it just shows me the kubuntulogo and the loading bar but then it goes to non-graphical login
[11:15] <Vhozard> ThomasD i dont know then
[11:15] <pushax> villevicious: did you only copy the monitor are or the whole of my xorg.conf?
[11:15] <Vhozard> ThomasD i'm no pro! lol
[11:15] <villevicious> I copiend the whole thing
[11:16] <pushax> villevicious: I noticed there is a improtant difference in that mines PCIe and you'd have AGP 9600, woudln't you?
[11:16] <ThomasD> Vhozard: no problem ^^
[11:17] <pushax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58973/  is your original
[11:17] <jussi01> villevicious: when you boot, do you get a terminal login?
[11:17] <villevicious> yes
[11:17] <Vhozard> ThomasD ok ^^
[11:17] <pushax> is mine.  jsut copy the "screen" and "monitor" sections
[11:17] <pushax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58975/
[11:17] <jussi01> villevicious: if so, then boot, login and do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:18] <jussi01> villevicious: that should get you a clean, new xorg.
[11:18] <villevicious> I'll try
[11:21] <pushax> villevicious: are you using 7.10
[11:21] <moope1> hullo, I have a dell 1501 laptop. does anyone know how I can change the brightness of the display under linux? It stops workingwhen the kernel loads
[11:21] <user5> hello peoples
[11:21] <moope1> I mean the buttons stop working
[11:22] <pushax> moope1: so no typing at all?
[11:23] <yao_ziyuan> i already set in Power Setting that my display should turn off in 2 hours
[11:23] <yao_ziyuan> but when i am watching a movie,
[11:23] <yao_ziyuan> it turns of in 5 min
[11:23] <yao_ziyuan> why?
[11:24] <bugs> hello all, i have a nvidiagraphics card 7 series. A monitor capable of hdtv, and my monitor only states up to 1024 how can I adjust it to show its full strenth? I did the KDE>SYSTEMSETTINGS>MONITOR and adjusted the settings,  it took in the software after logging out and back in.. but the resilution didn't change  visually, but it did in the software???
[11:24] <yao_ziyuan> Power saving: Switch off monitor after 2 hours
[11:24] <moope1> pushax, sure the typing works, Its the brightness up and down keys that dont
[11:25] <danny> Good morning at least it is here (Florida)
[11:26] <popo> hi all
[11:26] <PhilRod> yao_ziyuan: take a look in your video player settings and see if it's messing with power settings (perhaps it's trying to *prevent* the monitor switching off, and getting it wrong)
[11:26] <user5> danny: hi
[11:26] <bugs> hello all, i have a nvidiagraphics card 7 series. A monitor capable of hdtv, and my monitor only states up to 1024 how can I adjust it to show its full strenth? I did the KDE>SYSTEMSETTINGS>MONITOR and adjusted the settings,  it took in the software after logging out and back in.. but the resilution didn't change  visually, but it did in the software???
[11:26] <Ville_Vicious> Yes I\m using 7.10
[11:26] <yao_ziyuan> PhilRod: it is realplayer for linux
[11:27] <yao_ziyuan> maybe kubuntu can't recognize my monitor
[11:27] <yao_ziyuan> in the Hardware tab it says:
[11:27] <PhilRod> moope1: I have the xps 1530, and the brightness keys don't work either. You can change the brightness with this command:
[11:27] <yao_ziyuan> Graphics card: ati
[11:27] <yao_ziyuan> Monitor #1: Plug 'n' Play
[11:27] <PhilRod> sudo sh -c " echo -n 48 > /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD/brightness "
[11:27] <moope1> PhilRod ??
[11:28] <raul> hy
[11:28] <raul> hi
[11:28] <PhilRod> and you can see the available brightness settings (I use 48, as you can see) by cat'ing that /proc file
[11:29] <raul> hello
[11:30] <moope1> PhilRod: sh: cannot create /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD/brightness: Directory nonexistent
[11:30] <moope1> :(
[11:30] <raul> anyone there
[11:30] <burdicda> Just out of curiosity.....what is the first thing you go get (download) on a new install of kubuntu [a pole]
[11:30] <burdicda> Just out of curiosity.....what is the first thing you go get (download) on a new install of kubuntu [a poll]
[11:30] <yao_ziyuan> i disabled Screen Savers
[11:30] <yao_ziyuan> but it seems there still will be a blank screen in 5 min
[11:30] <jussi01> burdicda: please dont poll in here
[11:30] <burdicda> kk
[11:30] <burdicda> then its personal i wanna know
[11:30] <jussi01> burdicda: better off in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:30] <raul> anyone is using a vodafone usb modem?
[11:31] <PhilRod> moope1: hrm, maybe it's slightly different on your model - have a poke around in /proc and see if you can find something relevant
[11:31] <raul> i cant use konqueror
[11:31] <Ville_Vicious> Ok now I hav it working on 1440*900
[11:32] <Ville_Vicious> using generic 1680*1050 screen
[11:32] <moope1> PhilRod: :) ta mate
[11:32] <moope1> it works
[11:32] <PhilRod> cool
[11:33] <Ville_Vicious> but when I change to 1680*1050 these black bars appear at the sines of the srceen
[11:33] <Ville_Vicious> sides
[11:33] <Ville_Vicious> sort of like reverse lettebox
[11:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello.
[11:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> Does anybody know of a linux/kde program that will go through your music collection and find the duplicates that you may have?
[11:36] <jussi01> !test
[11:36] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[11:36] <Ville_Vicious> But Ill let it rest for today and return tu the problem later
[11:36] <Ville_Vicious> by and thanks for all the help
[11:38] <ThomasD> gundam_rx78nt1: can't amarok do that (i'm not sure)
[11:39] <bugs> my monitor will not display the hdtv graphics resilution it is capable of.. I changed the settings in the kde>settings>monitor and it took effect, at least it says 1900xwhatever it was///  but after log out and in, it still displays 1024???  Can some one help me??
[11:43] <a> nj
[11:43] <a> nobody
[11:44] <jussi01> !fixres | bugs
[11:44] <ubotwo> bugs: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:44] <heng> hi all why after i install external codecs, still cannot work on my pC to play RMVB????
[11:45] <heng> it show cannot find codec matching
[11:46] <jussi01> heng: try using vlc
[11:50] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[11:50] <moralbehav> i have got a server, i read the useridr in /home/unixuser/public_html , in the /home i have got chmod 700 * ,the owner (only) can edit, read, execute you files
[11:50] <jussi01> administrateur: try: /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:54] <heng> still cannot le
[12:13] <hola> imnot ale to create /dev/video0 for my webcam
[12:14] <^u^> will   sudo mkdir /dev/video0    work? hola
[12:15] <hola> ^u^: i think that it willnot enought
[12:16] <^u^> !webcam | hola
[12:16] <ubotwo> hola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:16] <Louisiana> hi
[12:17] <hola> ^u^: already read it
[12:17] <Dekans> does someone has trouble with kdm on kubuntu hardy ?
[12:17] <^u^> k
[12:18] <zulu> hello
[12:19] <^u^> !hardy | Dekans,
[12:19] <ubotwo> Dekans,: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[12:19] <jussi01> Dekans: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <^u^> oops - there was meant to be a link to #ubuntu+1 for hardy quest in there Dekans
[12:21] <Dekans> thanks i did not know the chan
[12:22] <^u^> K
[12:26] <sivaji> i installed ubuntu in my  2 GB pendrive when i am trying to boot from pen drive i get error message like "no operation system is installed in pen drive"
[12:29] <^u^> sivaji, a 2G pendrive is really about 1.9G and ubuntu takes up about 2.2G so...
[12:33] <jussi01> !test
[12:34] <JoshOvki> !ubotuisdead
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> That Pendrivelinux web site - has a lot of info on getting ubuntu on a pendrive.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> i just toyed with slax last week. It installed real nicely to my usb thumbdrive
[12:42] <^u^> I must lead a sheltered life - I can't understand the attraction of an os on a usb stick...
[12:44] <llutz> ^u^: defined environment wherever you are (and are allowed to boot a pc from usb-stick)
[12:45] <^u^> llutz, I use a live cd and ssh for that - no limit to read/write etc
[12:46] <llutz> different people, different ways
[12:47] <^u^> it would be a boring place if everyone was the same :)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ^u^,  a 'system rescue' tool - is very handy.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ^u^,  or i got one for a 'geexbox media player' :) that i use also.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Specilized tools for special tasks.
[12:50] <^u^> Dr_Willis, with the read/write limits on a usb stick I thought a live cd was a better option - but obviously not for a :geebox media player"
[12:51] <^u^> *"
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ^u^,   im not too worried about the life of a $15 usb stick. :)
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Plus my thumbdrive actually is a little ittsy bitsy hard drive. :)
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Its about the size of.. Hmm.. 1 inch x 2 inches..  or so,
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> a bit bigger then most - but it was on sale.
[12:52] <^u^> Dr_Willis, I have one - but have a large strap on it so i don't lose the bugger :)
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> I got a little sony micro-tiny vault also. about the size of a thumbnail :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> then i must have a dozen SD cards. Cant get my laptop to boot them however. :(
[13:12] <FORWARD> Ïðèâåò
[13:12] <FORWARD> êòî òî åñòü?
[13:13] <FORWARD> Ðóññêèå
[13:13] <^u^> FORWARD, in english pls
[13:13] <FORWARD> ÷òî òóò îïîâ íåò ñîâñåì?
[13:13] <FORWARD> sorry
[13:13] <sammu> how can i extract .rar -files with ark?
[13:13] <FORWARD> Discrimineition )))
[13:13] <^u^> sammu, you need unrar from synaptic
[13:14] <sammu> how can i get it?
[13:14] <stdin> install the unrar package
[13:14] <stdin> !rar
[13:14] <sammu> how?
[13:14] <^u^> sammu, open synaptic and click the search button and type   unrar
[13:14] <stdin> hmm, ubotu's still lagging
[13:14] <stdin> ^u^: synaptic is a gnome app
[13:15] <stdin> sammu: open Adept (KMenu -> System -> Adept) and search for "unrar"
[13:15] <^u^> and I'm using flux here - sorry adept
[13:15] <sammu> okey, tryin
[13:17] <sigma_1234> and the question is...will synce ever work?
[13:18] <picotron> hi, what is the status of the xfi drivers? do they work?
[13:18] <sigma_1234> whats xfi?
[13:18] <picotron> creative xfi soundcard
[13:19] <daffytheduck> hi
[13:19] <sammu> adept doesn't find any unrar-related stuff
[13:20] <^u^> !repos | sammu
[13:21] <daffytheduck> Im after a banwidth limmiting tool on a per application or a per port basis can anyone help out Thanks
[13:21] <daffytheduck> Bandwidth
[13:21] <sigma_1234> those always had dodgy support. best to try it out and see for yourself
[13:21] <^u^> has the bot died?
[13:21] <daffytheduck> lol
[13:21] <catweazle> sammu: take rar
[13:21] <^u^> sammu, you need to have all the repositories enabled
[13:21] <stdin> sammu: make sure you have multiverse enabled https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:22] <catweazle> it's includes unrar
[13:22] <daffytheduck> bots dont die they are terminated
[13:22] <^u^> but their diodes malfunction
[13:22] <daffytheduck> lol
[13:22] <sigma_1234> stdin: did ubotu fall asleep again:)
[13:23] <gaE4> i installed amarok, but when i wanna play a mp3-file it says that amarok cant play mp3's and if i wanna install it, after installation it says, restart amarok to apply changes, when i restart it, it says cannot play mp3's^
[13:23] <sammu> amarok plays only .ogg in my comp
[13:23] <stdin> sigma_1234: it's just being strange, works in -offtopic for instance
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> gaE4: if you are on gutsy, run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[13:24] <daffytheduck> there should be a dialouge that adds mp3 support directly the first time amarok starts
[13:25] <gaE4> yeah ubuntu 7.10 - gutsy | i am new, Ubuntu not KUbuntu perhaps u should know
[13:25] <gaE4> but ubuntu told me to come here
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> gaE4: yup, that command should still work
[13:25] <daffytheduck> anyway can anyone help with my bandwidth problem im desperate here
[13:25] <gaE4> ok, ty
[13:28] <gaE4> ty, now it works
[13:29] <^u^> sammu, if you have all the repos enabled you can have mp3s etc playing
[13:31] <jussi01> !test
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> 4+56=
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> 'this is only a test, if there had been a real emergancy...'
[13:36] <stdin> !ping
[13:38] <stdin> !test
[13:38] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[13:38] <stdin> that's better
[13:40] <rdw> hello, can anybody help me? Call to undefined function imagecreatetruecolor() in /usr/share/php/Image/Text.php
[13:52] <JoshOvki> how do i reinstall a program with apt without uninstaling and reinstall?
[13:52] <stdin> JoshOvki: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[13:52] <JoshOvki> thanks stdin
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> has there been any problems with amarok-xine or the xine engine recently?
[13:54] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: whats your issue?
[13:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> I try to click to another song and I receive the error saying that the resource is busy and it begins to cycle through my playlist with out playing
[13:56] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: where are the songs located?
[13:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> on my hard drive
[13:57] <sMonk> I have a question about VirtualBox
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks  :-)
[13:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> !hi | BluesKaj
[13:58] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:58] <ubotwo> BluesKaj: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:58] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[13:59] <BluesKaj> hi gundam_rx78nt1...that's quite the handle :)
[13:59] <sMonk> On the package manager, where I originally d/l and installed VirtualBox, it's version 1.5.0 and the website has ver 1.5.6 I downloaded the 1.5.6Ubuntu.deb file, now if I install that with Gdebi will that "upgrade" my current one, or will I have to reinstall my systems again?
[13:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> my handle?  It's another way to say my realname if you know of the alternate name for that Gundam.
[14:00] <BluesKaj> no gundam,  it's the rx78nt1 that I wonder about :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> just kidding of course , gundam_rx78nt1
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sMonk,  you shouldent have to.
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sMonk,  removing the older one 'shouldent' remnove the systems either.. the Purge option to remove  it MIGHT do so however.
[14:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> Well, the original Gundam was the RX-78. The NT1 was the New Type that replaced the original but it was nicknamed with my name.
[14:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> So I took the name for that.
[14:03] <sMonk> Dr_Willis: I just noticed that they have repositories list. I'll try adding that. see what happens
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> sMonk,  even better. :)
[14:03] <sMonk> that's what I thought :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> aha , gundam_rx78nt1 ..I'm an old guy and not a gamer so I din't realize the meaning of your nick :P
[14:06] <sMonk> I'll let you know what happens
[14:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> No problem.  I'm still waiting for someone to ask me if it's my name... LOL.
[14:07] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hehe
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> this IS my name :)
[14:08] <maxym> !fr
[14:08] <ubotwo> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:11] <maxym> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[14:11] <sMonk> now I'm getting an error,   E: /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox_1.5.6-28266%5fUbuntu%5fgutsy_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko', which is also in package virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[14:12] <BluesKaj> sMonk, close your VB , then run the command
[14:12] <sMonk> it is closed
[14:12] <jussi01> maxym: so run the command there, with sudo in front
[14:13] <maxym> yess
[14:13] <BluesKaj> sMonk,ok run , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[14:13] <maxym> sudo apt-get install
[14:13] <jussi01> maxym: no, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:13] <BluesKaj> jussi01, he already ran it
[14:13] <jussi01> oh, ok
[14:14] <BluesKaj> but he got errors
[14:14] <maxym> thank
[14:14] <sMonk> I think i got it. I went in and removed the ose packages, it wanted to remove the program, but not the source, so I remeoved the ose source and it installed
[14:15] <sMonk> it's running. Saved my installed systems too
[14:17] <BluesKaj> sMonk, what do you think of VB otherwise , do you find it useful ?
[14:18] <moope1> Hi, my 7.10 install is being a bit weird when it comes to say taking out the wired connection and swapping over to wireless or changing wireless connections say. It will report via knetwork manager that there is a connection but not actually route anything down it
[14:18] <sMonk> Very useful actually, I was frustrated at first, because you have to get your setup right the first time (ex, HD size, cdrom acess) but it works great
[14:19] <moope1> firefox is especially naff with this
[14:19] <heng> hi why I cannot access my samsung 500gb SATA hardisk?
[14:20] <heng> I checked the system, ie. SCSI, it able to detect
[14:20] <oldkde> W windows
[14:20] <intelikey> Q: are usb flash drives extreemely slow ?
[14:20] <oldkde> ovviamente skerzo ciao a tutti
[14:20] <heng> but I cannot access my 500 GB,
[14:21] <llutz> intelikey: most of them, yes (cheap ones)
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !it | oldkde
[14:21] <ubotwo> oldkde: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:21] <intelikey> so should "mke2fs -c /dev/sda" take an hour to format a 2g flash drive ?
[14:21] <llutz> intelikey: not that slow :)
[14:22] <intelikey> hmmm   i don't have any other usb/scsi devices...
[14:22] <intelikey> and the progress shows to be moving...
[14:22] <intelikey> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test):          471872/         491520
[14:23] <BluesKaj> heng, is it you master drive ?
[14:24] <paul__> asdf
[14:24] <heng> BluesKaj: nope
[14:25] <paul__> quit
[14:25] <paul__> exit
[14:25] <BluesKaj> heng, describe how the drive is connected, pls .
[14:25] <heng> I´ve total 3 hard disk
[14:26] <Roey> hello
[14:26] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[14:26] <heng> sda divide to 3 portion, sdb 1
[14:26] <heng> if in order my samsung should be sdc
[14:26] <Roey> heya BlueDevil
[14:27] <intelikey> well it finly fineished
[14:27] <intelikey> heng sda can not devide to sdb
[14:28] <intelikey> heng sudo fdisk -l         or cat /proc/partitions    to see what you have.
[14:29] <intelikey> partitions on sda will be sda1 sda2 ... sda5 ... sda8
[14:29] <heng> nope, sda still in 1 hard disk (SEAGATE), divide to total 4 portion, 1 for home, 1 for swap, 2 for pic n personal file saving
[14:30] <heng> sdb is western digital, format in 1 whole hard disk
[14:30] <intelikey> and you want to partition sdb ?
[14:30] <intelikey> or just mount it ?
[14:31] <heng> sdb is western digital, format in 1 whole hard disk
[14:31] <heng> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[14:31] <heng> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[14:31] <heng> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:31] <heng> Disk identifier: 0x7dd57dd5
[14:31] <heng>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:31] <heng> /dev/sda1   *           1        2002    16081033+  83  Linux
[14:31] <heng> /dev/sda2            2003       14593   101137207+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[14:31] <heng> /dev/sda5            3826       14593    86493928+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[14:31] <intelikey> yes i understand you.     do you want to change the partition table of sdb or do you just want to mount sdb ?
[14:31] <heng> /dev/sda6            2003        2123      971869+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[14:32] <heng> /dev/sda7            2124        3825    13671283+   b  W95 FAT32
[14:32] <heng> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[14:32] <heng> Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[14:32] <heng> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[14:32] <heng> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:32] <stdin> !paste > heng
[14:32] <heng> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[14:32] <heng> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:32] <heng> Disk identifier: 0x92223a80
[14:32] <intelikey> too quick stdin
[14:33] <heng>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:33] <angga> hai
[14:35] <heng> sorry so what should i do ?
[14:35] <intelikey> do you want to change the partition table of sdb or do you just want to mount sdb ?
[14:35] <intelikey> what do you want to do ?
[14:35] <jussi01> !paste | heng
[14:35] <ubotwo> heng: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:35] <heng> mount sdb
[14:35] <angga> hai
[14:36] <jussi01> hi angga
[14:36] <angga> mount what?
[14:36] <intelikey> heng sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt
[14:36] <heng> ok sorry just now
[14:36] <angga> hi jussi
[14:36] <angga> what are u explain just now jussi?
[14:36] <heng> intelikely: it say it´ve been mounted or /mnt busy
[14:37] <intelikey> heng   df -h | grep sdb
[14:38] <intelikey> heng   df -h | grep mnt
[14:38] <intelikey> actually
[14:38] <intelikey> dhoulf only return one line.  you can paste one line without causing a riot ;/
[14:38] <intelikey> should
[14:39]  * intelikey notes; being off home key makes for odd eotfd
[14:39] <heng> it show ¨ /dev/sdb5             187G  141G   46G  76% /media/sdb5¨
[14:40] <intelikey> heng use konqueror and navigate to   /media/sdb5A    see if that's what you have been looking for.
[14:41] <heng> intelikey: it show does not exist
[14:42]  * intelikey doesn't see why "<heng> sdb is western digital, format in 1 whole hard disk" should have any partition table.  but assuming he meant one whole partition not one whole disk  then it shouldn't have extended partitions...
[14:42] <heng> intelikey, if  ¨ /media/sdb5¨  I able to detect wester digital
[14:44] <intelikey> heng i don't know what kind of screwy setyp you have on that disk.  so "if" you will use a pastebin and not flood this channel, do this for me. pastebin the output of#  cat /proc/partitions ;sudo fdisk -l ;mount
[14:45] <intelikey> and i'll see if i can't figure out what you want/need to do.
[14:53] <intelikey> stdin you busy ?
[14:53] <cpainchaud> hello there
[14:53] <sivaji> how to format my 2GB pendrive
[14:53] <cuzntx> evrytime i reboot in gutsy my video resolution warning sign appears. so i must reboot (again) go into recovery mode>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  and it still comes up during reboot (not restarting the desktop)
[14:53] <sivaji> !format
[14:53] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:53] <intelikey> sivaji with or without partition ?
[14:53] <sivaji> intelikey without partition
[14:54] <cpainchaud> had anyone noticed that amarok eats 10% CPU while idling ?
[14:54] <intelikey> sivaji assuming no other scsi devices    sudo mkfs.(desired format) /dev/sda
[14:54] <sivaji> intelikey GParted or QTParted cant display my pen drive
[14:55] <intelikey> sivaji you should check "mount" first and make sure that sda* is not mounted
[14:55] <sivaji> intelikey ok
[14:56] <intelikey> sivaji like this maybe#  mount | grep sda || sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[14:56] <intelikey> if it shows something mounted it wont touch the drive and you know you have work to do before you can format
[14:57] <sivaji> intelikey success
[14:57] <intelikey> tov
[14:58] <BluesKaj> cpainchaud, yes amarok, ktorrent and strigi are terrible cpu&memory hogs from most google reports ...how to fix is another question...I removed strigi (or turned off the daemon ) in "add remove programs" which seems to help speed somewhat
[14:58] <intelikey> sivaji you can manually mount after the fs is created with#  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda /mnt
[14:58] <BluesKaj> cpainchaud, if your not a Dolphin lover you can do the same for it.
[14:59] <cpainchaud> there is a problem with dolphin ?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> no , dolphin is fine , if you can stand it :)
[14:59] <sivaji> intelikey i can mount but i dont have permission to use that && i cant change the permission
[15:00] <intelikey> sivaji your newly created filesystem will then be accessable at /mnt    (note; that is a one time mount, the systems automounter should take up the slack thereafter)
[15:00] <sivaji> sivaji@dappyboy:~$ sudo chown sivaji '/media/pen' chown: changing ownership of `/media/pen': Operation not permitted
[15:00] <cpainchaud> i just find curious that amarok eats 10% of CPU when not playing music
[15:00] <BluesKaj> <---prefers konq over dolphin
[15:00] <intelikey> you can't own or mod vfat  there is no permissions bit sivaji
[15:01] <intelikey> sivaji that's why the -o umask=000
[15:01] <intelikey> sivaji if you need to scroll up ^
[15:01] <intelikey> page-up
[15:01] <OhLookAZombie> anyone using an ati 9600 pro?
[15:02] <jussi01> OhLookAZombie: yes, somepeople undoubtedly are. whats your issue?
[15:02] <sivaji> intelikey thanks :D
[15:02] <cpainchaud> going to try a strade
[15:02] <cpainchaud> *strace
[15:02] <intelikey> cpainchaud not that odd for an app that accesses the web without permission really
[15:02] <OhLookAZombie> it goes horribly slow
[15:03] <jussi01> !ati | OhLookAZombie
[15:03] <jussi01> oh, the bot is gone
[15:03] <cpainchaud> omg
[15:03] <cpainchaud> its flooding system calls ....
[15:03] <intelikey> OhLookAZombie propriatary
[15:03] <jussi01> OhLookAZombie: go to system settings, advanced, restricted drivers
[15:03] <jussi01> and enable the driver there
[15:03] <intelikey> cpainchaud which syscall ?
[15:04] <OhLookAZombie> uhm let's see
[15:04] <cpainchaud> writev(5, [{">\0\7\0v\7\300\3\32\7\300\3\331\5\300\3\0\0\0\0L\4%\0\4"..., 4088}, {">\0\7\0`\1\300\3\32\7\300\3\331\5\300\3\0\0\0\0r\1%\0\4"..., 28}], 2) = 41
[15:04] <cpainchaud> select(6, [5], [5], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [5])
[15:04] <cpainchaud> writev(5, [{">\0\7\0`\1\300\3\32\7\300\3\331\5\300\3\0\0\0\0w\1%\0\4"..., 4088}, {">\0\7\0`\1\300\3\32\7\300\3\331\5\300\3\0\0\0\0Q\4%\0\4"..., 28}], 2) =
[15:04] <cpainchaud> gettimeofday({1205075005, 725276}, NULL) = 0
[15:04] <eth01> !pastebin
[15:04] <cpainchaud> select(6, [5], [5], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [5])
[15:04] <cpainchaud> writev(5, [{">\0\7\0`\1\300\3\32\7\300\3\331\5\300\3\0\0\0\0V\4%\0\4"..., 980}], 1) = 980
[15:04] <cpainchaud> read(5, 0x808fa1c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:04] <cpainchaud> gettimeofday({1205075005, 726374}, NULL) = 0
[15:04] <cpainchaud> sorry for the flood
[15:04] <eth01> too late
[15:04] <sivaji>  intelikey now my pendrive works only @ 2-3 MB/s actually i will work at >10MB/s
[15:04] <BluesKaj> !paste | cpainchaud
[15:05] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:05] <cpainchaud> sorry again :D
[15:05] <intelikey> cpainchaud amarok have a clock ?   that looks like a clock
[15:05] <ubotwo> cpainchaud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:05] <OhLookAZombie> ok enabled 'em
[15:05] <OhLookAZombie> let's ty openarena
[15:05] <OhLookAZombie> *try
[15:05] <jussi01> :)
[15:06] <cpainchaud> i dont see any clock there
[15:06] <cpainchaud> is there a sort of KDE call interceptor like strace for KDE calls ? :D
[15:06] <intelikey> cpainchaud hmmm   idk.  that just looks like a clock running.  maybe i'm wrong.
[15:07] <cpainchaud> intelikey: but it does a lot of select and writev
[15:07] <intelikey> kmtrace - a KDE memory leak tracer
[15:07] <intelikey> xtrace - trace communication between X client and server
[15:07] <intelikey> probably neither what you want tho
[15:08] <intelikey> i don't see anything else promicing in dapper  if they didn't add it in gutsy then "prolly not"
[15:09] <BluesKaj> cpainchaud, do you have alot of music on your disk , if so perhaps amarok is performing cddb lookups or scanning for new music
[15:09] <QueBaza> hello
[15:09] <cpainchaud> no , brand new install
[15:09] <cpainchaud> its clean
[15:09] <intelikey> cpainchaud there is an #amarok channel iirc.  you might get better answers in there too.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:09] <cpainchaud> no collection yet
[15:09] <cpainchaud> ok  :)
[15:09] <sivaji> intelikey now my pendrive works only @ 2-3 MB/s actually it will work at >10MB/s
[15:09] <QueBaza> opinios about email clients? And little help aside?
[15:10] <jussi01> kmail is nice
[15:10] <QueBaza> same as in kontact?
[15:10] <jussi01> yes
[15:10] <QueBaza> can I import old outlook pst-files to it?
[15:10] <intelikey> sivaji i saw that the first time you posted it.   but nothing i can do about that.    it could be any number of things causing that.   not the least of those being some *buntu auto-detect/mount crap...
[15:11] <jussi01> QueBaza: not sure about that
[15:11] <QueBaza> and Jussi01, HIFK just scored!
[15:11] <intelikey> sivaji test it in a windows box.  format it there.   then try it again in linux   ???
[15:11] <intelikey> just sujestions for troubleshooting.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> kmail is quite good , I used T-bird for yrs til it no longer opened a browser when trying to use links in the email text.
[15:12] <sivaji> intelikey ok thanks
[15:12] <intelikey> i'm out.   shalom real people.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> c ya intelikey
[15:12] <QueBaza> I looked the kmail and it looks nice. How about calendar on kmail?
[15:12] <QueBaza> working or useless?
[15:12] <jussi01> QueBaza: the calender works well for me, i guess its a try it and see thing
[15:13] <QueBaza> guess your right about that
[15:13] <BluesKaj> QueBaza, it's all part of the kontact package
[15:13] <jussi01> QueBaza: if you just want to chat, try #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:14] <QueBaza> oh, sorry. Is this just for help-section?
[15:14] <jussi01> yeah
[15:15] <QueBaza> sorry about that. I still would need help to get old outlook emails to kontact?
[15:15] <jussi01> QueBaza: your welcome to stick around. I just dont know the answer, sorry
[15:16] <QueBaza> :)
[15:16] <JoshOvki> how do i find out what driver is being used on my wifi device?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> QueBaza, , if you save your contact list as a ldif file then you transfer it from windows to kmail if you have windows access
[15:18] <QueBaza> ldif ? From outlook?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> QueBaza, save the file to your /home/user directory
[15:19] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[15:19] <ForgeAus> bbl
[15:19] <QueBaza> My windows is on old HD, and it's on the table. PST-files are on usb-stick
[15:20] <BluesKaj> PST?
[15:20] <QueBaza> I'm leaving windows for good. All I have is pst-files.
[15:20] <QueBaza> yes. pst-file is outlook archive file
[15:23] <BluesKaj> ok, if it contains your contact list , then you should be able to "save as" ldif so kmail can accept it
[15:24] <QueBaza> I will have to look that
[15:29] <QueBaza> thanks
[15:29] <Fat-head> heya why doesnt kmix recognise my creative xmod ?
[15:31] <PhilRod> presumably because the underlying sound system (alsa I guess) doesn't recognise it
[15:34] <Fat-head> yay i solved it, i had to quit kmix and execute it again
[15:34] <Fat-head> no alsa did recognise it
[15:34] <Fat-head> in asoundcof list
[15:36] <BluesKaj> hmm, something changed with opening kde apps. If I have konq minimized the apps mininmize to the tray as well. This is annoying , been hunting in the konq settings for a fix , but unable to find one
[15:37] <PhilRod> do you mean all apps minimize to the tray?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> just kde apps
[15:39] <Jucato> BluesKaj: using KWin?
[15:39] <administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[15:42] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, only when konq is in use and minimized
[15:43] <Fat-head> has flash been fixed in the repos? if not where can i download the fix
[15:44] <Fat-head> ?
[15:47] <PhilRod> Fat-head: I no longer get nspluginviewer crashes, so I guess it's fixed. Although I did install gnash, so maybe that's it
[15:48] <Fat-head> philrod but did u install flashplugin non-free?
[15:48] <Fat-head> gnash?
[15:48] <Fat-head> is it good?
[15:49] <cpainchaud> official flahs plugin eats so much CPU even when its doing nothing :/
[15:50] <Fat-head> oh
[15:51] <icewaterman> hm, xvinfo crashes on amd64
[15:52] <Fat-head> but before when i used the official flash plugin on u ubuntu with firefox i got crashes once in a while. now im on kubuntu with konqueror will i still get those crashes? btw does konqueror have any plugin like NOSCRIPT for firefox?
[15:52] <PhilRod> I think you can disable plugins on a site-by-site basis
[15:53] <Fat-head> oh
[15:53] <cuznt> i would not use konqueror
[15:54] <Fat-head> what would u recommend?
[15:54] <cuznt> i use iceape
[15:54] <Fat-head> mozilla?
[15:54] <cuznt> yes
[15:54] <cuznt> any mozilla
[15:54] <Fat-head> iceape?
[15:55] <cuznt> and if you use synaptic package manager you can right click to see recommended installs
[15:55] <Fat-head> well mozilla is faster than konqueror but doesnt konqueror integrate well with kubuntu and kde?
[15:55] <cuznt> i am gutsy
[15:55] <cuznt> kubuntu
[15:55] <cuznt> iceape is a mozilla browser e-mail client
[15:55] <cuznt> etc
[15:55] <Fat-head> oh
[15:55] <cuznt> works with my flash very well
[15:56] <Regital_> dpddo
[15:56] <Regital_> hllo
[15:56] <cuznt> i am not quite sure if aptitude package manager recommends any librarys to install
[15:56] <Fat-head> but how did you install flash?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> !flash
[15:57] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:57] <Fat-head> so its fixed?
[16:06] <cuznt> i did not know it was broken
[16:07] <Dr_House> pbsetup.run: 18: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ????
[16:07] <Dr_House> missed something?
[16:08] <Dr_House> sudo sh pbsetup.run
[16:08] <crimsun> use bash instead of sh.
[16:08] <Dr_House> ok thx
[16:08] <Dr_House> pbsetup.run: pbsetup.run: cannot execute binary file
[16:09] <crimsun> don't execute it as a shell script, then.
[16:09] <Dr_House> direct
[16:09] <Regital_> jussi01: can you remember who was helping me yesterday?
[16:09] <jussi01> Regital_: 1 moment
[16:09] <Regital_> jussi01: i had problems with my internet
[16:09] <Regital_> ok
[16:09] <crimsun> sudo chmod +x /path/to/pbsetup.run && sudo /path/to/pbsetup.run
[16:11] <jussi01> Regital_: it was coreymon77 who snt here atm
[16:13] <administrateur> s??
[16:13] <administrateur> les blocks??
[16:13] <Jucato> !fr | administrateur
[16:13] <ubotwo> administrateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:16] <toan> bonjour
[16:16] <cpainchaud> bonjour :D
[16:17] <toan> probleme kaffeine
[16:17]  * Roey spots Jucato 
[16:17] <Roey> Jucato:   heya!
[16:17]  * Jucato runs for cover :)
[16:17] <Roey> heh
[16:17] <cpainchaud> euh ici on parle anglais et sinon fo mettre des verbes dans les phrases :D
[16:17] <toan> cpainchaud  francais?
[16:17] <Fat-head> whats the default firewall for kubuntu?
[16:17] <Jucato> !fr | toan and cpainchaud
[16:17] <ubotwo> toan and cpainchaud: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:17] <Roey> Jucato:   can you help me out--I am goinig to buy parts from NewEgg for a new system and wanted your input
[16:17] <Jucato> Fat-head: iptables I think
[16:18] <Jucato> !firewall | Fat-head
[16:18] <ubotwo> Fat-head: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:18] <Jucato> Roey: I'm not good w/ hardware :(
[16:18] <Fat-head> jucato thnx man
[16:18] <cpainchaud> !help
[16:18] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:18] <Fat-head> what i was looking for was a gui for kde
[16:18] <Roey> Jucato:   ah, ok then
[16:18] <Fat-head> its guarddog now i know
[16:18] <Jucato> Roey: sorry :(
[16:19] <Jucato> Fat-head: well you did ask about a "default". guarddog isn't. :)
[16:19] <Jucato> (there's no Firewall GUI installed by default)
[16:19] <spawn57> hi, how do I install the sky98lin driver in ubuntu?
[16:20] <Fat-head> jucato whats the default gui then
[16:20] <Jucato> Fat-head: there isn't any
[16:20] <Fat-head> from oh yeh
[16:21] <Fat-head> didnt read all your post
[16:21] <toan> how can i install mrl plugin for kaffeine?
[16:22] <administrateur> #kubuntu-fr
[16:24] <Roey> Jucato:   np
[16:24] <Roey> dah
[16:24] <Roey> is my time off?
[16:25] <Roey> did we change the clock or something???
[16:25] <fuhreal> Hey everyone
[16:27] <Kovert> what is the best GUI for managing samba?
[16:28] <rektaali> Nakkel
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Roey, daylighjt savings time in north america
[16:28] <fuhreal> The first time kubuntu loaded, there was an icon down near the time indicating I should install the ATI drivers for my laptop.... how do i get that back?  I don't think acceleration is on
[16:29] <Jucato> fuhreal: K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager
[16:29] <fuhreal> Jucato: thanks!!
[16:31] <fuhreal> why does adept keep thinking something else is using it ?
[16:31] <Jucato> !adeptfix | fuhreal
[16:31] <ubotwo> fuhreal: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:31] <Kovert> fuhreal: adept or dkpkg?
[16:31] <fuhreal> Kovert: adept
[16:32] <Kovert> as sudo \etc\apt\ remove the lock file
[16:32] <Kovert> ok slash the other way
[16:32] <angga> hi
[16:32]  * Jucato points to the command that the bot gave
[16:32] <fuhreal> I never got a chance to set my root password ..
[16:32] <Kovert> hi isnt supported yet :-)
[16:33] <fuhreal> and su won't auth me :|
[16:33] <stdin> don't just rm the lock file, dpkg may still be running and trying to start it while it's running is just *bad*
[16:33] <Kovert> stdin: thanks! (filing that away)
[16:33] <Jucato> fuhreal: use sudo, not su
[16:33] <stdin> !sudo | fuhreal
[16:33] <ubotwo> fuhreal: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:34] <fuhreal> ouch
[16:34] <fuhreal> that sucks
[16:34] <Kovert> what is the best GUI for managing samba? 2nd request
[16:34] <stdin> fuhreal: what about it sucks precisely?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Kovert, konq
[16:34] <fuhreal> stdin: takes away from the god like tendencies i'm used to with gentoo
[16:34] <Kovert> Bluthankls
[16:34] <Jucato> !sudo | fuhreal
[16:34] <ubotwo> fuhreal: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:35] <stdin> fuhreal: what do you think you can't do with sudo that you could do with su?
[16:35]  * stdin emphasises the "do _you_ think" part
[16:35] <fuhreal> stdin: having to type sudo prior to everything
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Kovert, smb4k works ,but it's clunky
[16:35] <stdin> fuhreal: nope "sudo -i" = root shel
[16:35] <Jucato> sudo -i
[16:35] <stdin> *shell
[16:35] <stdin> anything else ?
[16:36] <fuhreal> no .. that does it
[16:36] <stdin> then it doesn't suck ;)
[16:36] <fuhreal> stdin: touche
[16:36] <fuhreal> :)
[16:36] <fuhreal> if dpkg was running, it should show in top right?
[16:37] <Kovert> konq looks like part of Konquer
[16:37] <stdin> not necessarily, it'd only show in top if it's on of the top CPU users
[16:37] <Kovert> I want to setup Samba but dont want to edit the smb.cmf
[16:37] <stdin> it'd show in ps, but fuser checks that for you and kills it anyway
[16:38] <Kovert> want something like swat but more contemporary
[16:39] <fuhreal> wow
[16:39] <fuhreal> nice package management
[16:39] <fuhreal> This is based on debians apt-get right?
[16:40] <crimsun> yes.
[16:40] <fuhreal> so far i likey
[16:40] <fuhreal> in an hour, everything is working
[16:43] <Kovert> BluesKaj: looking for something that works on the smb.conf
[16:43] <Jucato> isn't there something in System Settings -> Network Connections or something?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Kovert, open konq and type smb:/ in the addrtessbar
[16:43] <Kovert> not complete enough
[16:44] <Kovert> BluesKaj: set up smb.conf not use samba
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Kovert, smb.conf is the samba config file
[16:46] <Kovert> BluesKaj: yes i am looking something like swat that edits it dorectly
[16:47] <Kovert> BluesKaj: sorry directly
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Kovert, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-6.html
[16:48] <Kovert> BluesKaj: the bottm link is what I want and it doesnt work
[16:52] <dergringo_> I can't wait for the alpha6 news :D When will it be available?
[16:52] <Regital> my kopete keeps crashing... what should i do?
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now to figure out how to install windows post-ubuntu
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Kovert, what are you trying to do with samba ..it would help me to know so I can help you better
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> livecd, create partition, install to said partition?
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> livecd again, reinstall grub?
[16:56] <dennit> !list
[16:56] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:56] <Kovert> BluesKaj: I know how to edit the smb.conf but i change it alot so I was hoping for a GUI control for it
[16:56] <Kovert> going to try kcontrol
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, get supergrub , it can restore the grub menu after a windows install
[16:57] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: sort of. see !grub for the instructions for grub
[16:57] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Kovert, why do you edit smb.conf so much ?
[16:58] <ForgeAus> I got a command that did my xnesting pretty much which gives me a full KDE desktop under andLInux!
[16:58] <ForgeAus> Xephyring it of course... only one thing I find wierd
[16:58] <ForgeAus> when I use startkde, in the shell that starts it I need to press enter while its loading so that it works
[16:59] <Kovert> becase I sysop many systems and I need to have end users make changes at times
[16:59] <ForgeAus> (ie I can't seem to send it to background  with &
[16:59] <ForgeAus> well I can but it doesn't take the enter keypress when required that way
[17:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato and BluesKaj: thanks.  my issue is getting windows installed and playing nice with an existing ubuntu installation though
[17:00] <Daisuke_Ido> my in-laws aren't ready to make the jump totally yet
[17:01] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, supergrub disk is very useful with windows as well , it will recover the mbr for XP , but not vista
[17:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not grub i'm worried about
[17:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's actually getting windows to install to a separate partition without complaining
[17:03] <ricco_> can anyone tell me, where can i see the system log on kubuntu gutsy?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, if you install windows beside an existing (k)ubuntu then will have to worry about grub :)
[17:03] <ricco_> i've installed the kde4, and my laptop crashed
[17:04] <BluesKaj> ricco_, KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:04] <Arwen> in apt-g, a version of "2~1" is considered to be lower than "2", right?
[17:04] <ricco_> ok, thx
[17:04] <ricco_> bye
[17:04] <dam> salut tout le monde j'ai un serveur sftp et mon pote qui est sur windows éssaye de chopper un épisode mais c super lent (il est qu'a 26% alors qu'il téléchargent depuis 14h)c pourait etre dus a quoi ??
[17:05] <BluesKaj> !fr | dam
[17:05] <ubotwo> dam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:06] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: right, but i can use the supergrub disk for that
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, yup
[17:10] <DreadKnight> Arwen: as far as remember, it's some sort or 2.1 but unofficial, just for ubuntu for example :P
[17:11] <DreadKnight>  Arwen: like it has ubuntu/linux specific bug fixes
[17:11] <administrateur> how can i become an operator or have privileges??
[17:11] <Flosoft> hi
[17:12] <BluesKaj> BBL ...movietime
[17:12] <Flosoft> what is the equivalent command to update-manager -d on Kubuntu?
[17:14] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: i think you mean sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:14] <Flosoft> well no
[17:14] <Flosoft> -d goes into development version
[17:14] <Flosoft> it launches the distribution upgrade manager
[17:14] <Flosoft> i.e. it proposes 8.04 as new version
[17:15] <DreadKnight> that's what i said :)
[17:16] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: you can tell i'm no longer familiar with windows -_-
[17:16] <BluesKaj> oops movie isn't available
[17:16] <BluesKaj> I'm losing my windows chops too :)
[17:16] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: you can edit the sources.list file and replace gutsy with hardy, save... then run the command...
[17:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll have to create a partition for it using *buntu's livecd first, right
[17:16] <Flosoft> right
[17:16] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: it's how i remember :P
[17:16] <Flosoft> but that doesn't do the upgrade via the system update of ubuntu
[17:17] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: when you do an upgrade like from gutsy to hardy, a special upgrade manager application is launch
[17:17] <DreadKnight> launched*
[17:17] <Flosoft> let me try :)
[17:17] <bubba> hi, why mplayer cant play dvds in gutsy
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, yeah, and that can take some time. Make sure you partiton the drive to put the ntfs file system first.
[17:18] <Arwen> bubba, for the same reason it never could
[17:18] <Arwen> you needs libdvdcss
[17:18] <DreadKnight> bubba: i think you need a codec first for dvds
[17:18] <bubba> arwen.mplayer can play dvd
[17:19] <bubba> dreadknight...i have libdvdcss
[17:19] <Arwen> Read. What. I. Write. Before. You. Make. Stupid. Replies. Ok?
[17:20] <DreadKnight> bubba: i guess that's a modification, and may have dvd support compared to mplayer, just my guess
[17:20] <Arwen> #mplayer, and explaining what it does instead would be a good start
[17:20] <bubba> what stupid replies u talking about
[17:20] <bubba> i just said mplayer plays dvds
[17:20] <DreadKnight> oh lol, "arwen.mplayer" xD
[17:20] <bubba> nothing wrong with that lol
[17:20] <Arwen> no, you didn't read "you need libdvdcss" which was the follow up to "for the same reason it never could"
[17:20] <Flosoft> this is the one I am looking for: http://kubuntu.org/images/feisty_to_gutsy.png
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, for example ,h/sda1 is windows, h/sda2 is ubuntu , h/sda3 is linux swap
[17:21] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  can i change the designation though?
[17:21] <bubba> its ok arwen no big deal
[17:21] <bubba> i have libdvdcss
[17:21] <Daisuke_Ido> because ubuntu's isntalled on sda1
[17:21] <Daisuke_Ido> installed*
[17:21] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, designation ?
[17:21] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: that's the one :)
[17:21] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj?
[17:21] <ForgeAus> wow it feels so much like having Konqueror in a window now
[17:21] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: as far as i know that's the only way :P
[17:21] <Flosoft> well .. I don't get it :)
[17:23] <bubba> still i cant play it...kafeine plays very slowly :(
[17:23] <Flosoft> I replaced my sources.list with hardy
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> as in primary/logical?
[17:24] <Flosoft> and now I can upgrade everything with the normal update manager
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> oh yes
[17:24] <Flosoft> but not the distribution upgrade
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> nevermind.  you were asking ME.
[17:24] <DreadKnight> Flosoft: you get administrative rights and edit sources.list, replacing gutsy with hardy; save, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !partition
[17:24] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, ubuntu's installed on sda1, if i resize and create a partition before that, it would still be considered sda2
[17:28] <Flosoft> DreadKnight: well yeah, but that doesn't give me the Distribution Upgrade Wizard
[17:29] <Flosoft> and just updates the installed packages
[18:29] <Agent_bob> turbulance in cyber space ?     looks like a bumpy ride today.
[18:29] <Agent_bob> ubotu wb
[18:34] <marcondes> hi
[18:35] <intelikey> marcondes
[18:35] <marcondes> somebody help me?
[18:35] <intelikey> not without more information  no.
[18:35] <marcondes> sure
[18:36] <derdui_> does anybody know why localhost:631 isnt reachable.... the same is with the cupsclient
[18:36] <marcondes> my kubuntu gutsy don have sound
[18:36] <swatto> what is kubuntu based on please?
[18:38] <intelikey> swatto debian
[18:38] <rysiek|pl> swatto: ubuntu
[18:38] <intelikey> rysiek|pl kubuntu is ubuntu
[18:38] <rysiek|pl> swatto: and ubuntu is based on debian
[18:38] <swatto> thanks
[18:38] <rysiek|pl> intelikey: depends on the POV
[18:39] <marcondes> i dont know what to do with the sound
[18:39] <intelikey> point of view ?    no.   *buntu is *buntu is *buntu
[18:39] <intelikey> !sound | marcondes maybe have a look here if you haven't yet
[18:39] <ubotwo> marcondes maybe have a look here if you haven't yet: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:40] <rysiek|pl> intelikey: under the hood they are one and the same system, but you can show Kubuntu to a long-time ubuntu user (I mean a "normal user", as my grandpa) and he won't know what to do with it
[18:40] <swatto> is it possible to add packages using source lists from debian-multimedia.com?
[18:40] <rysiek|pl> swatto: possible - yes, good idea - nope
[18:41] <swatto> ah ok
[18:41] <Jussio1> !debian
[18:41] <ubotwo> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[18:41] <Jussio1> see the last bit
[18:41] <marcondes> ok. chekin...
[18:41] <rysiek|pl> swatto: ubuntu differs a bit from debian, and while 90% of time things will work AOK, you mnight get some strange problems with the remnant 10%
[18:41] <rysiek|pl> *might
[18:41] <swatto> ah ok ill leave it then
[18:42] <intelikey> and updates/upgrades are often a mess if you do add non-buntu repos swatto
[18:43] <marcondes> thancks people
[18:43] <marcondes> ill be back later
[18:43] <intelikey> ok
[18:46] <intelikey> swatto in a case where one wants to try a package from some "outside" repo i would sujest simply downloading the one package and using dpkg -i package.deb ;aptitude -f install     and be sure to make a note of the package name incase problems arise later on.
[18:46] <swatto> ok - thanks intelikey :)
[18:47] <intelikey> much safer than adding a forign repo
[18:47] <intelikey> while still not "the ubuntu way"
[18:48] <intelikey> swatto also of note; any FOSS could be built from source within your ubuntu system which should also be an acceptable way.
[18:48] <luh> re
[18:48] <luh> i have a tutorial for a wlan driver, and it says something about this folder "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/"  - which one could that equal to on a kubuntu?
[18:49] <luh> exciting stuff, trying to get a 802.11n wlan card running
[18:49] <intelikey> luh probably /etc/network/*
[18:49] <luh> not many hopeful posts that one finds on google
[18:49] <luh> thanks intelikey
[18:50] <intelikey> !wifi | luh might be something here
[18:50] <ubotwo> luh might be something here: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:50] <Jussio1> luh: which card?
[18:50] <intelikey>  802.11n  ^
[18:51] <luh> ralink 802.11n
[18:51] <luh> i don't know any further details myself to be honest
[18:51] <Jussio1> ahhh, lspci should give you more
[18:51] <intelikey> luh ffr lshw | less   is very helpful with hardware information.
[18:52] <luh> actually it doesn't, i asked it already Jussio1 RaLink Unkonwn device 0781
[18:53] <luh> that is indeed more talkative
[18:53] <luh> capabilites and configuration give a lot of infor
[18:53] <swatto> hmm some of my icons are not showing up, my system settings icon just looks like a blank page
[18:53] <luh> product and vendor though are both just RaLink
[18:53] <fuhreal> anyone know how i can figure out why knetworkmanager doesn't seem to be working?
[18:54] <intelikey> fuhreal sorry i never use it.
[18:55] <fuhreal> intelikey: kool.. hopefully i'll find someone
[18:56] <intelikey> yeah just didn't want you to think you were invisable
[18:56] <rysiek|pl> fuhreal: what do you mean by 'doesn't seem to be working'
[18:56] <luh> can i switch to verbose mode whilst booting?
[18:57] <rysiek|pl> luh: Alt+F1 or Alt+F8 AFAIR
[18:57] <smurfslover> luh: Alt + F1
[18:57] <luh> thanks
[18:57] <marco__> c5a6
[18:57] <marco__> ciao
[18:57] <rysiek|pl> !it | marco
[18:57] <ubotwo> marco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:57] <marco__> ops, sorry  :-)
[18:58] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[18:58] <rysiek|pl> ciao is perfectly fine, just wanted you to know that there are Italian channels too ;)
[18:58] <luh> damnit - wlassistant tells me it couldn't find any wireless devices
[18:58] <fuhreal> intelikey: hehe ty :)
[18:59] <luh> ra0 is gone
[19:05] <luh> there should be some log when wlassistant fails to connect right?
[19:05] <luh> /var/log/messages says a little, but i don't understand it
[19:05] <luh> is that where wlassistant logs to?
[19:06] <Arwen> yay, amarok successfully compiled
[19:07] <intelikey> Arwen if you build it so that it doesn't eat resources, it will no longer be amarok     ?
[19:07] <Arwen> wait, what?
[19:08]  * Arwen is confused
[19:08]  * intelikey hides....
[19:09] <Arwen> scary, AAC can produce recognizable audio at 24kbps
[19:09]  * Arwen goes to convert his music collection
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> I always thought listening to music is about enjoying the quality and the clear sound, among others
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> not about merely recognizing what one is listening to
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> but maybe it's just me ;)
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> FLAC/OGG ftw
[19:11] <Arwen> OGG sucks, but yeah, I have everything I can control in FLAC.
[19:12] <luh> rt_ioctl_giwscan. 1(1) BSS returned, data->length = 86 - anyone with an idea what this means?
[19:12] <derdui_> i have restartet, but, cups works but i cant add a printer, problems with localhost:631
[19:14] <emilsedgh> Arwen: why ogg sucks?
[19:14] <emilsedgh> (just asking, want to know)
[19:15] <Arwen> it's got to the most convoluted and generally incompatible container I've ever seen
[19:15] <intelikey> ogg as audio = good    ogg as vidio = ummm  well....
[19:15] <moope1> I cant write to my samba share :( anyone know why? the permissions on the folder are drwxr-xr-x
[19:16] <moope1> Its set up to share user home directories
[19:16] <intelikey> moope1 cause smb doesn't own it ?
[19:17] <intelikey> i don't think you really want to share the user's home  maybe a subdir of their home.
[19:17] <intelikey> $HOME/shared    or something.
[19:17] <moope1> intelikey, sure I want to share user home, its on my laptop
[19:17] <fuhreal> how do you add java support to konqueror
[19:17] <fuhreal> ?
[19:17] <moope1> Its password protected
[19:18] <intelikey> moope1 but to allow write access you'll have to break security on several thing.
[19:18] <moope1> intelikey, It has worked before.....
[19:18] <intelikey> moope1 sorry.   i'm ignorant. so ignore me.
[19:19] <unix_infidel> seriously, bad times when your hosts site is down.
[19:19] <intelikey> !java | fuhreal
[19:19] <moope1> intelikey: No, that wasnt what I meant :)
[19:19] <ubotwo> fuhreal: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[19:20] <moope1> Its a standard feature for smb I think
[19:21] <nuxil> how do you configure smb?
[19:21] <fuhreal> intelikey: yah i found the section in konqueror already thanks.... but for some reason i can't get jscreenfix java applet to run
[19:22] <moope1> nuxil: /etc/smb/samba.conf
[19:23] <nuxil> you do it manualy?
[19:23] <moope1> I mean /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:23] <moope1> nuxil, sure, usually What do you want to do
[19:23] <moope1> I dont think there are any configscripts
[19:23] <nuxil> no but you can use webmin.
[19:24] <moope1> nuxil: webmin breaks things
[19:24] <moope1> Its like a child with adht
[19:24] <nuxil> nah
[19:24] <intelikey> adht?
[19:25] <moope1> intelikey: adhd
[19:25] <oOoOoOoO_> Can I have kubuntu on an sony ericsons k600i?
[19:25] <moope1> Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder
[19:25] <nuxil> moope1, lol
[19:25] <intelikey> oh spoiled roten
[19:25] <intelikey> rotten
[19:25] <moope1> intelikey: :)
[19:26] <ubuntu_> Flosoft: dread knight here
[19:26] <Flosoft> ubuntu_: hey
[19:26] <ubuntu_> Flosoft: it ain't booting for me, i'm on liveCD reinstalling xD
[19:26] <intelikey> we don't dope kids for having substandard parrents.
[19:26] <sourcemaker> is there a release date for kde 4.1?
[19:26] <Flosoft> ubuntu_: heh :)
[19:26] <intelikey> sorry i'll hush now.
[19:26] <intelikey> !ot > intelikey
[19:26] <ubuntu_> sourcemaker: it's estimated for july or something like that
[19:27] <sourcemaker> ubuntu_: ok... thanks
[19:27] <moope1> intelikey: We have asbos
[19:27] <intelikey> i C
[19:27] <moope1> Anti Social Behaviour Orders
[19:27] <intelikey> i C++
[19:27] <intelikey> no i don't C nor C++   sorry.
[19:28] <intelikey> i don't even C--
[19:29] <oOoOoOoO_> intelikey: I like C#
[19:29] <sourcemaker> how can I find the reason for a kernel panic? When I play the game enemy territory.... the pc often hangs with a kernel panic
[19:29] <intelikey> if you are binary, you don't exist...
[19:29] <intelikey> all 0's
[19:30] <intelikey> sourcemaker the "kernel panic" should display the reason
[19:30] <sourcemaker> intelikey: no...  it doesn't... the screen freezes
[19:30] <sourcemaker> intelikey: there is no message
[19:31] <intelikey> sourcemaker then you have to "eliminate" all the preceding events    "process of" kind of thing...
[19:32] <intelikey> i.e. there can not be any log of a kernel panic because of it's very nature.
[19:32] <sourcemaker> intelikey: how can I do that... I am playing the game.. and "boom"... the pc freezes
[19:32] <sourcemaker> and I can't reproduce that....
[19:33] <sourcemaker> sometimes... I am playing 2 hours without any problem or the pc crashs after 5 minutes
[19:33] <intelikey> sourcemaker you could setup a trace that will log the output and see what it's doing just before it panics  but it won't be very acurate unless you mount your fs that the log will be on as "sync"
[19:34] <sourcemaker> intelikey: ok
[19:34] <intelikey> and 2 hours of even strace will be huge.  not to even consider ltrace
[19:35] <sourcemaker> intelikey: need I recompile the kernel for debug ?
[19:35] <intelikey> not sure that will even help.    but it might.
[19:35] <intelikey> sourcemaker ask in #kernel   or ##linux
[19:35] <sourcemaker> intelikey:  ok
[19:35] <intelikey> or both
[19:36] <nuxil> moope1, got it working ?
[19:38] <KriZe> any Firefox 3 users?
[19:38] <KriZe> <-- HH/A6
[19:39] <stdin> for hardy support go to #ubuntu+1 not here
[19:40] <sigma_1234> whats so good about adobe air?
[19:41] <intelikey> stdin you busy ?
[19:41] <nuxil> did anyone say it was anygood ?
[19:41] <stdin> intelikey: not at the moment
[19:41] <intelikey> stdin can you run down the files in ~/.ssh for me ?
[19:41] <intelikey> as to what each actually does
[19:42] <intelikey> known_hosts is self explainatory  but the others are a little vague to me
[19:42] <moope1> nuxil: nope
[19:42] <moope1> sigma_1234: pretty
[19:43]  * intelikey knows stdin is good with ssh stuff
[19:43] <nuxil> moope1, take a look at this one http://pastebin.ca/935601.. at the bottom
[19:43] <stdin> intelikey: authorized_keys: list of public keys that can be used with the account,  id_dsa: private DSA key,  id_dsa.pub: public part of the DSA key. (there van be RSA equivalents of the DSA pair)
[19:43] <nuxil> intelikey, its all in man ssh
[19:44] <intelikey> stdin so the id_dsa is the only one that you don't want the world reading ???
[19:45] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but the ~/.ssh should be 700 anyway
[19:45] <stdin> I think ssh may even error out if it's not 700 (not sure)
[19:46] <intelikey> cause default perms are http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1acbafed   which i just noticed.
[19:46] <saxofoner> I just installed kde on top of my ubuntu install, and now when I run compiz, I lose window decorations
[19:46] <saxofoner> they work in gnome
[19:46] <stdin> !compis | saxofoner
[19:46] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[19:46] <stdin> !compiz | saxofoner
[19:46] <ubotwo> saxofoner: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:46] <stdin> if I can spell today...
[19:46] <intelikey> t o d a y
[19:46] <intelikey> :)
[19:46] <saxofoner> thank you very much, I knew there was some stuff
[19:47] <saxofoner> i want my cube with different backgrounds..... ;)
[19:48] <stdin> intelikey: mine are the same except with my user and group, and not root
[19:48] <draik> Hello all
[19:48] <nuxil> hi
[19:49] <draik> Hello nuxil
[19:50] <stdin> intelikey: if you're using key-pairs for auth on ssh, you can use the ssh-add tool to properly add the key to the right places
[19:50] <nuxil> i got a serious hangover today :(
[19:50] <intelikey> stdin yeah,  i'm building a master keyring on usb stick.
[19:50] <draik> I've got a few questions. Sorry if it seems like I'm flooding.
[19:51] <nuxil> ask
[19:51] <draik> Where can I get the sound files from Knoppix?
[19:51] <nuxil> what sound files ?
[19:51] <stdin> knoppix?? in what what is that Kubuntu related?
[19:51] <stdin> s/what what/what way/
[19:51] <draik> There was a folder I was trying to delete from my external HDD. I wasn't able to because of a "file". I went into my Win partition and I was able to remove the folder. What was I doing wrong?
[19:52] <stdin> stupid fingers
[19:52] <draik> The startup/shutdown audio files.
[19:52] <secleinteer> does the time not automatically change for dst?
[19:52] <nuxil> draik, wrong premissions most likely
[19:52] <intelikey> stdin kindof an admins key for all boxes, type thing.    wish me luck,  i may need it.
[19:52] <draik> stdin: In a sense that I wonder if maybe there is something similar within Kubuntu. Actual voices rather than the chime-sounding themes.
[19:52] <stdin> intelikey: good luck :)
[19:53] <intelikey> :)     ty
[19:53] <stdin> draik: you'd have to ask the people that make knoppix where they store the sounds
[19:53] <sourcemaker> what does this firewall message mean: block SPT=80 DPT=2782?
[19:53] <draik> Thanks nuxil. I will look into that next time. But the interesting thing is that there weren't any files. They were just empty folders.
[19:53] <secleinteer> nvm
[19:53] <stdin> draik: XDG directory is /usr/share/sounds for system sounds though
[19:53] <draik> Is there anything similar within Kubuntu?
[19:54] <intelikey> draik you could use festival and write talking messages for everything...  or record them your self
[19:54] <nuxil> draik, it doesnt matter if they are empty or not. you must have right premissions to delete a dir
[19:54] <draik> Incoming call... UGH. DSL will soon disconnect
[19:54] <nuxil> draik, was it wave files ?
[19:54] <nuxil> cd sudo find -name '*.wav'
[19:55] <nuxil> cd / and search
[19:55] <stdin> slocate/locate would be easier
[19:55] <nuxil> yea
[19:55] <intelikey> nuxil nope.   you need to try that before you sujest it.   find will error out
[19:55] <nuxil> intelikey, oh ?
[19:55] <intelikey> nuxil find / -iname '*.wav'
[19:56] <intelikey> nuxil find must have path first.
[19:56] <stdin> find needs a path, even if it's just '.'
[19:56] <nuxil> intelikey it doesnt error on me
[19:56] <stdin> ohh, someone patched find apparently
[19:57] <intelikey> well i don't have the patched version
[19:57] <nuxil> if no path spesifyed it uses the one your in
[19:57]  * valeriyk waves
[19:57] <derdui_> has anybody an idea, why cups doesnt work? i did restart the system and reinstalled ist....
[19:57] <slougi> hi all. how do i disable kdm from starting on startup? (I want to start X with startx only)
[19:57] <intelikey> nuxil find: paths must precede expression
[19:57] <intelikey> Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [path...] [expression]
[19:58] <nuxil> chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm
[19:58] <intelikey> errors for me
[19:58] <nuxil> intelikey, what version?
[19:58] <intelikey> GNU find version 4.2.27
[19:58] <slougi> nuxil: that's not a really clean solution though is it? or is that the official way to disable init scripts.
[19:58] <intelikey> from the LTS
[19:59] <nuxil> GNU find version 4.2.31
[19:59] <valeriyk> slougi sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[19:59] <valeriyk> does that work?
[19:59] <intelikey> slougi the official way is   man update-rc.d
[19:59] <slougi> intelikey: thank you
[19:59] <slougi> valeriyk: that's one-time-only
[20:01] <intelikey> nuxil either way,   it's simply better form to supply the base path to find than to cd to the base path and call find there.    simply better form
[20:01] <stdin> less typing too
[20:01] <nuxil> intelikey, yea i agree
[20:02] <nuxil> slougi, official way? you do it the way that works best for you,
[20:02] <intelikey> yes and i would not sujest /  but /usr so that you don't search /dev/ and /proc/  for instance.
[20:02] <nuxil> slougi, if you need kdm again you can run command with +x instead
[20:02] <draik_> Sorry about that. DSL kicks me off when a call enters.
[20:02] <draik_> intelikey: Something about festival. Is that like espeak?
[20:02] <slougi> nuxil: yeah or just tell rc-update.d to reinstall the symlinks in the rc.d dirs
[20:03] <valeriyk> does anyone know how I can make my USB microphone(logtech webcam) be mixed through my actual sound card's capture input?
[20:03] <intelikey> draik it's a text to speach application    i think   ksayit uses it.
[20:03] <valeriyk> does that make sense?
[20:04] <intelikey> echo "anything you want here" | festival --tts
[20:04] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[20:04] <sourcemaker> I have the following entries in my firewall log... what does this mean? "proxyscan.freenode.net" ?
[20:04] <draik> espeak "anything you want here"
[20:04] <draik> Then it's spoken aloud.
[20:04] <intelikey> draik i also mentioned that you might want to record the standard messages yourself.
[20:05] <nuxil> intelikey, other way to run it is : echo "(SayText \"boo\")" | festival
[20:06] <intelikey> nuxil or have it read a file.   or convert speach to text...
[20:06] <valeriyk> how do I combine both my mixers into one?
[20:06] <nuxil> yep.
[20:06] <nuxil> james bond on tv
[20:06] <valeriyk> TBS?
[20:06]  * intelikey listens to festival reading many books.
[20:07] <nuxil> lol
[20:07] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[20:07] <valeriyk> how do I join two servers with bitchx?
[20:07] <valeriyk> ./server -m irc?
[20:07] <intelikey> nuxil but the default voice does leave some to be desired.
[20:11] <draik> Did anyone see me leave? Or was this just a hiccup on my end?
[20:11] <Regital> draik: yeah... you left
[20:11] <intelikey> -:- SignOff draik: #kubuntu (Nick collision from services.)
[20:12] <draik> Thanks. This DSL is really getting on my nerves
[20:12] <intelikey> ^ that means you "ghosted" your self
[20:12] <slougi> all right, thanks for the help guys!
[20:12] <draik> How so?
[20:12] <intelikey> draik that's what the message is saying.   -:- SignOff draik: #kubuntu (Nick collision from services.)
[20:13] <intelikey> says you told nickserv to kill your nickname so you could use it again.
[20:13] <draik> intelikey: How would I do that?
[20:13] <draik> Right. That I did, but I mean prior to that
[20:13] <intelikey> draik there is no prior to that.
[20:13] <draik> Then I guess it was a hiccup on my end
[20:14] <draik> Everything went blank
[20:14] <intelikey> if you had to "ghost" your nick then you didn't sign off
[20:14] <lascar> Afternoon, everyone.  How do I mount images?
[20:14] <intelikey> i.e. connection dropped on your end without a quit/exit sig.
[20:14] <draik> lascar: CD or DVD?
[20:14] <lascar> draik: dvd
[20:14] <lascar> draik: (does it matter?)
[20:14] <intelikey> !loop
[20:14] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[20:15] <stdin> !iso
[20:15] <ubotwo> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[20:15] <draik> lascar: sudo mount -o loop -t udf /path/to/ISO /path/to/mount/ISO
[20:15] <lascar> awesome; thanx
[20:15] <intelikey> we have a bot's bot today
[20:15] <stdin> the regular bot isn't feeling well today
[20:15] <draik> !botsnack
[20:16] <ubotwo> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:16] <intelikey> the stand in   isn't either.   imo
[20:16] <draik> Good backup!
[20:16] <stdin> intelikey: it's running an old db
[20:16] <intelikey> oh.
[20:16] <intelikey> then some of the "forgoten" infonodes should work again.
[20:21] <mluser-home> ellen: Hello ellen
[20:21] <ellen> hi there :)
[20:22] <mluser-home> ellen: how are you doing?
[20:22] <ellen> doing well thanks and how are you?
[20:24] <mluser-home> ellen: :0
[20:24] <draik> When I lock my laptop (ctrl+alt+L), it will display the screensaver. That's good because that's what I want. But when I return (login to my acct) I get a blank screen after ~5 min. It's not locked, just pitch black. Power Saver is off, BTW.
[20:24] <cameron> Hey, how do I end the packaging process manuelly?, (I can't install applications with adept, because it's being used, yet I don't see anything using it)
[20:25] <ellen> mluser-home: :) sorry folks...just learning Konversation and a new Linux user :)
[20:25] <stdin> !aptfix
[20:25] <stdin> well...
[20:25] <mluser-home> cameron: did you start apt-get or aptitude from a terminal?
[20:25] <cameron> nope
[20:25] <stdin> cameron: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:26] <mluser-home> cameron: open your terminal and type 'ps aux' and check to see if any of those processes are running, if so kill -9 them
[20:26]  * intelikey notices that stdin is his own bot now    Ha Ha Ha !
[20:27] <intelikey> sorry. couldn't help it.
[20:27] <stdin> I still have a local copy of the ubotu db, so I can grab the factoids if I need to
[20:28] <cameron> I just installed Kubuntu, attempted to update, when the packages were downloaded, it stated that there was a problem with the packages, and ever since, even when I restart, I can't access the package manager
[20:28] <stdin> cameron: did you try what I said?
[20:29] <cameron> doingso
[20:29] <cameron> well, I just opened Adept installer, and no messages poped up, so apperently, it worked!, thatnks
[20:30] <cameron> thanks*
[20:30] <stdin> :)
[20:30] <cameron> *creating a cheet sheet with command in it*
[20:30] <cameron> something I should have started long ago with ubuntu..
[20:33] <jawee> cameron: I know this isn't what you are talking about, but I have made a Kubuntu cheatsheet if you're interested: http://blogs.howtogeek.com/jatecblog/posts/kubuntu-and-kde-cheatsheet
[20:34] <jawee> oh, he left. no wonder his name wouldn't tab complete....
[20:34] <intelikey> ok if this thing works like i want it to,  it will allow a user that has the usb stick pluged in, to gain root access on the box he is sitting at as well as any other box on the lan, via ssh.   and hopefully without compromising security.
[20:38] <intelikey> jawee yah that's a first clue in most cases.
[20:38] <intelikey> i have noticed the same many times.
[20:41] <holx> hi
[20:41] <intelikey> holx
[20:42] <holx> it seems my boss f*cked up graphics drivers on one of his towers, any way to revert without harming the drivers
[20:42] <holx> oh hi
[20:42] <holx> without harming the stuff on the HD*
[20:43] <intelikey> holx yes xorg is often fixed from the command line  "console"   shouldn't be any challange to an old linux hand
[20:43] <holx> he said he was changing resolution and then it would'nt start again
[20:43] <intelikey> !nv | holx see if any of this helps
[20:43] <ubotwo> holx see if any of this helps: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:43] <holx> it hangs after the startup loading bar
[20:44] <intelikey> so start in single user mode.
[20:44] <Regital> hmm
[20:44] <intelikey> or boot with "nosplash vga=normal"
[20:44] <Regital> is it illegal to use lets say your neighbours wlan if its unprotected?
[20:45] <intelikey> Regital only with permission.
[20:45] <Regital> ok
[20:45] <holx> depends on country, in my country IIRC, you can use any open network
[20:45] <holo> the kernel 2.4 images were suposed to be in universe right?
[20:45] <Regital> i live in the usa right now
[20:45] <intelikey> Regital from the legal owner.  not just anyone that will say "you have permission
[20:46] <intelikey> holo should be in main i though
[20:47] <holo> intelikey: i don't find any image here
[20:47] <holx> how do I change boot settings?
[20:47] <holo> holx: what do you mean by boot?
[20:47] <holo> kernel parameters?
[20:47] <intelikey> holo you are looking for "kernel-*" aren't you?
[20:47] <holo> holx: services that start on boot?
[20:48] <holo> intelikey: linux-image
[20:48] <holx> quote:"
 or boot with "nosplash vga=normal""
 the kernel 2.4 images were suposed to be in universe right?  <<< <intelikey> holo should be in main i though <<< <holo> intelikey: i don't find any image here <<< <intelikey> holo you are looking for "kernel-*" aren't you?    <<<<<< did i get off track ?
[20:49] <holo> holx: vim /boot/grup/menu.lst
[20:49] <holo> *grub
[20:49] <holo> intelikey: i answered kernel-image was what i searched for
[20:50] <intelikey> holx edit the kernel option at boot time.
[20:50] <holx> will try'
[20:50] <holo> intelikey: sorry, linux-image
[20:50] <intelikey> holo no.  2.6 is linux-  2.4 is kernel-
[20:50] <holo> holx: to configure at boot time, you just have to press "e" under the kernel entry to edit
[20:51] <holo> intelikey: now that's non-intuitive.. i should be pissed off :)
[20:51] <holo> intelikey: thanks
[20:51] <holx> ah ok
[20:51] <intelikey> holo  yeah   i don't know why they changed the name   but they did.
[20:52] <holo> intelikey: O.o I still don't find
[20:53] <holx> so the nosplash vga=normal is a boot argument?
[20:53] <holo> holx: notice that changes in kernel parameters at boot time don't get saved to the next boot
[20:53] <holo> holx: yes, something you put in the load kernel line
[20:53] <intelikey> holx yes.
[20:54] <intelikey> !find kernel-image-2.4.27
[20:54] <holx> so kernel blablablabla nosplash vga=normal?
[20:54] <ubotwo> File kernel-image-2.4.27 found in sh:, apt-file:, command, not, found
[20:54] <sourcemaker> my kernel panics are not logged to the system log... what's wrong?
[20:54] <intelikey> holx yes but be sure to change the "splash"   to "nosplash"  not just add the new one.
[20:54] <holo> intelikey: ok, I don't have it. entering panic mode
[20:55] <intelikey> sourcemaker they can't be.
[20:55] <sourcemaker> intelikey: so.. how can I find the reason?
[20:55] <intelikey> sourcemaker i told you that already.   you can't go writing things from a paniced kernel.
[20:55] <intelikey> it's not safe.
[20:55] <holo> intelikey: can you confirm the repo it comes from? for example with apt-cache show
[20:56] <holo> sourcemaker: install sysvconfig and enable that
[20:56] <intelikey> sourcemaker so there is no way to save data after the instance of panic     period
[20:56] <holx> yep, booting now
[20:56] <holo> sourcemaker: it could also be that it is disabled in the kernel, so a new kernel would be the solution
[20:57] <holx> Sorry, if I annoy you with regular stupid questions like this, I am still fairly new to linux
[20:57] <holo> holx: no worries, at least with me
[20:57] <holo> intelikey: are you using gutsy?
[20:58] <holx> don't remember, which version is on this one
[20:58] <holx> one of hte older ones had 6.06
[20:58] <sourcemaker> intelikey: why isn't there a bluescreen like windows 95 :-) So that I can read the crash dump
[20:58] <derdui_> how do i finde out which usb-ports are used, and whats the user is?
[20:58] <intelikey> holo ok you are correct  it's universe.   http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[20:59] <holo> sourcemaker: there are screens, but they are black
[20:59] <intelikey> that was   apt-cache policy for  kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
[20:59] <holo> intelikey: oh I see, not only it is universe which i have enabled but is also not available in gutsy
[20:59] <holo> but it is in dapper
[20:59] <intelikey> derdui_ lsusb
[20:59] <holo> intelikey: ok, thanks.. i will put dapper repo here, at least temporarily
[21:00] <derdui_> thanks intelikey
[21:00] <intelikey> holo i was trying to get the bot to confirm or disprove that.
[21:00] <intelikey> !find kernel-image-2.4
[21:00] <ubotwo> File kernel-image-2.4 found in sh:, apt-file:, command, not, found
[21:00] <intelikey> but the bot seems to be flakey atm
[21:00] <holo> :) no worries
[21:01] <valeriyk> How would I make my USB microphone(logitech quickcam) mixer be on the other audio mixer?
[21:02] <holx> also, anyone know any good software to capture video with webcam and mic?
[21:02] <hellhound> what version and installation type of kubuntu should i choose for a home file server with the following specs: Xeon 32 bit 2Ghz processor with 512KB cache; 1x011.30 MB memory, and three partitions (509.8MB swap, 2.0GB /, 593.7GB /home)
[21:02] <valeriyk> camarano
[21:02] <valeriyk> camorama
[21:02] <valeriyk> rather
[21:03] <holx> I only got good drivers for my webcam, but no software to record
[21:03] <valeriyk> camorama
[21:03] <valeriyk> worked nicely for me
[21:03] <holx> ah ok
[21:04] <valeriyk> Im trying to get my webcam mixer into my audio mixer
[21:04] <valeriyk> anyone know how?
[21:04] <holx> didn't know what were you referring to
[21:04] <valeriyk> haha, yeah :)
[21:04] <Regital> what was the big background picture called in compiz fusion
[21:04] <Regital> when you zoom out on the cube
[21:05] <stdin> skydome i think
[21:05] <Regital> thanks stdin
[21:05] <stdin> #compiz-fusion will know
[21:12] <scofmb> Hi.. my kubuntu start at console mode... and i can't change the default desktop from kde3 to kde4.. how can i do it without having kdm or gdm?
[21:15] <stdin> scofmb: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" and choose "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde"
[21:15] <hellhound> does anyone know of a way to safely resize a partition from the live cd without reformatting?  in other words grab another gig from the /home partition without losing the existing data from the /home partition (i know that I have several GB of free space on that partition)
[21:16] <scofmb> stdin: thxs... :)
[21:38] <anom01y> which release of kubuntu has kde 4 ?
[21:38] <LjL> anom01y: none at the moment. but ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:40] <anom01y> well, I am trying to set up a friends laptop, and he wants to experiment Linux for the first time
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> KDE4 is still rough in places
[21:40] <anom01y> is Kubuntu 7.10 a good starter version of Linux ?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> if wantign to test it out - i suggest a live cd.
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu works vbery well on my laptops. :)
[21:40] <anom01y> yeah I downloaded the 7.10 Gusty Gibbon version
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> New release of Kubuntu/Ubuntu due out in a month also.
[21:41] <anom01y> yeah theres always a new version though
[21:41] <anom01y> I kinda need something today thats going to work good with lots of support
[21:42] <anom01y> for many years
[21:43] <draik> How do I get screenshots when I press PrtScr?
[21:43] <draik> Nothing happens
[21:43] <cube_> hi
[21:44] <cube_> muss ich bevor ich das verschl[sseln howto aus dem ubuntuusers wiki nutzen kann erstmal kubuntu installieren oder kann ich auch erst verschluesseln und dann installen nach dem schema dort?
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> Hmm that should run some program.. you could run gimp and get screen shots with it also.
[21:46] <LjL> !de | cube_
[21:46] <ubotwo> cube_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:49] <catap> hi
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.
[21:49] <catap> alt+tab and alt+f2 stopped working, how can I restart it without logging out?
[21:50] <PhilRod> catap: are kdesktop and kwin still running?
[21:51] <catap> PhilRod: according to ps aux | grep yes
[21:52] <PhilRod> you could try restarting them with dcop
[21:53] <catap> PhilRod: I tried kwin --replace but it didn't fix it, how do I restart kdesktop with dcop?
[21:54] <PhilRod> ah, maybe you can't. You could just kill it and run a new one from a konsole
[21:56] <anom01y> hmm I have kubuntu running on live-cd on a sony laptop
[21:56] <anom01y> and it has a external hd plugged in via usb
[21:57] <anom01y> the computer has windows installed on the hd, and the xtrnl hd is ntfs as well
[21:57] <catap> PhilRod: I killed and restart it but it didn't help :/
[22:00] <PhilRod> catap: seems like something is eating your keystrokes then. I don't really have any idea what it could ebe though
[22:00] <PhilRod> s/ebe/be/
[22:02] <anom01y> I tried the command "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1", and I get "Failed to mount
[22:02] <anom01y> '/dev/sda1' operation not supported
[22:04] <PhilRod> anom01y: maybe "mount -v" will give you some more debug output?
[22:12] <sebws> hi lost my passwd from my system , how to reset my pass
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> boot live cd, chroot to mounted system, use passwd command. is one way
[22:13] <sebws> what's chroot to mounted sys
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> you mount the system, you chroot over to it.  getting a shell on the installed system.
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> mount /dev/whatever /media/system
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> chroot /media/system
[22:15] <sebws> ok thx wills i'll try it one
[22:16] <jirik-kde4> Hi, i have Kubuntu KDE4 Alpha 6 installed and I have problem with Flash player - i can not run sudo ./flashplayer-installer - i am following the official manual. Does anybody the same problem or solution?
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> #ubuntu+1 may have some info/links for the  beta release problems.
[22:18] <Bizarrus> hi
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm...
[22:18] <Bizarrus> where are speak german ... have a problem ...?!?!
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> !de
[22:18] <ubotwo> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:18] <Bizarrus> THX
[22:25] <draik> How do I get ksnapshot to respond when I press PrtScr?
[22:34] <Regital> hey... anyone have compiz fusion/
[22:34] <Regital> ?
[22:35] <tekteen> what is your question?
[22:36] <tekteen> I use compiz
[22:36] <oloughlin75> !ask | Regital
[22:36] <ubotwo> Regital: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:36] <oloughlin75> New ubot?!
[22:36] <tekteen> ubotu must be broken
[22:36] <tekteen> it happens
[22:36] <oloughlin75> lol
[22:36] <tekteen> !test
[22:36] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[22:37] <tekteen> uh... ubotwo has a bug. Isn't it supposed to say failed?
[22:38] <LjL> no
[22:38] <tekteen> ok
[22:38] <simula> i just installed, i removed my wireless card, and set up a wired network so i can connect to the internet now, but add/remove (adept installer) doesn't seem to pull from the internet no matter what i change my "edit software sources" to :(
[22:38] <simula> does anyone have any insight?
[22:38] <tekteen> simula: have you tried to use the internet
[22:38] <tekteen> ?
[22:39] <simula> konquerer and irc are working fine... i'm writing from the new kubuntu box
[22:39] <tekteen> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:39] <simula> one sec
[22:39] <Regital> ubotwo: sorry... i got carried away, and i already solved the problem i had
[22:40] <tekteen> ubotwo is a bot
[22:40] <Regital> yeah i just realized that lol
[22:40] <tekteen> :-)
[22:40] <Regital> but yeah... i already solved the problem i had
[22:41] <Regital> thanks anyway
[22:41] <tekteen> come back if you have a question :-)
[22:41] <tekteen> bye
[22:42] <simula> tekteen... here are the lines that aren't commented:
[22:42] <simula> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partnerdeb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[22:42] <simula> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main universedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main universe
[22:44] <simula> thanks for the help tekteen :)
[22:44] <tekteen> !pastebin > simula
[22:44] <axel> Hello! How to extract an ISO-File?
[22:44] <simula> ok, thanks for the pastebin link... i'll post the whole file contents there
[22:45] <tekteen> can you pastebin the output of when you try the command sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install <some program you have not downloaded>
[22:46] <simula> ok tekteen... here is the pastebin link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59075/
[22:47] <tekteen> simula: comment out the first line
[22:47] <anom01y> why cant I format a external hd with qtparted ???
[22:47] <tekteen> you installed without internet
[22:47] <anom01y> I hit commit, and it says it worked
[22:48] <anom01y> but then I check it it is still "unknown"
[22:48] <tekteen> simula: uncomment everything after one of these lines: # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[22:48] <tekteen> then you can get programs from the internet
[22:49] <anom01y> nm, I just realized it will only work on ext2
[22:49] <simula> ok tekteen... working on it
[22:49] <tekteen> simula: I need to go. do not forget to run the command sudo apt-get update after you have uncommented the repos
[22:50] <tekteen> bye
[22:50] <simula> thanks for the help tekteen
[22:52] <Regital> hey... what was the command where i can see all the pci cards?
[22:53] <oloughlin75> lspci
[22:53] <Regital> ok thanks
[22:54] <simula> tekteen... thank you so much, it worked :)  you are awesome!
[23:00] <jbovalley_> hello all
[23:01] <jbovalley_> can anyone help with a mce install ?
[23:01] <anom01y> is it ok to create a partition as a ext3, and then format as a ext2 ?
[23:01] <anom01y> because qtparted allows you to do this
[23:02] <jbovalley_> i have been following the instructions on how to using kubuntu but i got stuck
[23:02] <jbovalley_> i installed Kubuntu , which works great but now i can't get the MCE installed
[23:02] <Arwen> argh, why is there no ext2 defragmenter?
[23:02] <Arwen> this is getting f***ing ridiculous... 50% fragmented
[23:02] <oloughlin75> jbovalley_: MCE as Windows Media Center Edition?
[23:03] <jbovalley_> no the linux mce
[23:03] <oloughlin75> ah, never used it before
[23:03] <jbovalley_> 710 beta 4
[23:03] <jbovalley_> oh ok
[23:04] <Boohbah> what is a 'linux mce'?
[23:04] <jbovalley_> its a free media center that runs on linux
[23:05] <jbovalley_> does anyone in here knows anything about installing Linux MCE  on Kubuntu ?
[23:06] <oloughlin75> !mce
[23:06] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[23:08] <anom01y> is it ok to create a partition as a ext3, and then format as a ext2 ?
[23:11] <Regital> does anyone know if creative labs sound blaster x-fi extreme audio is supported in linux yet?
[23:11] <Regital> cause i can´t find anything online
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> Regital,  last i looked Creative had released 64bit ONLY drivers for it.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> Regital,  im really dissapointed in creatives linux support for that thing. they blame Vista. :) they had to shift manpower to fixing the vista drivers.. so  let the linux work slide.
[23:13] <crxyem> I just upgraded from 6.10 > 7.04 > 7.10, everything seems to be running just fine other than high processor loads
[23:13] <Boohbah> http://www.linuxmce.org/ ?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Boohbah, ??
[23:15] <Regital> Dr_Willis: so theres no drivers for 32bit?
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Regital,  last i looked.. No.
[23:41] <matt___> Reading package lists... Done
[23:41] <matt___> Building dependency tree
[23:41] <matt___> Reading state information... Done
[23:41] <matt___> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[23:41] <matt___> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[23:41] <matt___> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[23:41] <matt___> or been moved out of Incoming.
[23:41] <matt___> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[23:41] <matt___> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[23:42] <matt___> that package should be filed.
[23:42] <matt___> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[23:42] <matt___> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:42] <matt___>   amarok: Depends: amarok-xine but it is not going to be installed or
[23:42] <matt___>                    amarok-engine
[23:42] <matt___> i get that message when trying to install amarok.
[23:42] <matt___> i've been fooling around with it a while, now i messed up something...
[23:42] <matt___> how can i fix it?
[23:43] <LjL> !paste | matt___
[23:43] <ubotwo> matt___: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:43] <LjL> matt___: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:44] <matt___> LjL: ok, sorry, will next time...
[23:45] <matt___> LjL: but you have a clue where to start with this?
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> it also pays to edit your pastes a little we  need all the info :)
[23:45] <LjL> matt___: why don't you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> matt___,  i would say do a 'update' and 'upgrade' then try installing again. for starters.
[23:45] <matt___> Dr_Willis: already tried...
[23:45] <matt___> LjL: it's fine, but ok.
[23:46] <LjL> matt___: it's fine..?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> !info amarok-xine
[23:46] <ubotwo> amarok-xine: xine engine for the Amarok audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 200 kB (Only available for None)
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> somthings weird - if it cant find stuff in main.
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> (Only available for None) ? huh.
[23:47] <matt___> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59078/
[23:47] <LjL> that's just the bot
[23:48] <LjL> matt___: apt-cache policy amarok-xine   says what?
[23:48] <matt___> amarok-xine:
[23:48] <matt___>   Installed: (none)
[23:48] <matt___>   Candidate: 2:1.4.8-0ubuntu1~gutsy1
[23:48] <matt___>   Version table:
[23:48] <matt___>      2:1.4.8-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 0
[23:48] <matt___>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/main Packages
[23:48] <matt___>      2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 0
[23:48] <matt___>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
[23:48] <matt___> should i have pastbinned that?
[23:49] <LjL> matt___: yeah, would have been better. anyway try installing it explicitly with sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[23:49] <LjL> and see what it complains about
[23:49] <matt___> The following packages have unmet dependencies: amarok-xine: Depends: libxine1 (>= 1.1.4) but it is not going to be installed
[23:49] <matt___> E: Broken packages
[23:50] <matt___> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59079/ LjL
[23:50] <LjL> matt___: do the same with libxine1
[23:51] <matt___> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:51] <matt___>   libxine1: Depends: libxine1-plugins (= 1.1.10-1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed or
[23:51] <matt___>                      libxine1-misc-plugins (= 1.1.10-1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed
[23:51] <matt___>             Depends: libxine1-x (= 1.1.10-1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed
[23:51] <matt___>             Depends: libxine1-console (= 1.1.10-1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed
[23:52] <matt___> E: Broken packages
[23:53] <matt___> LjL: fixed it, i removed libxine1
[23:53] <LjL> matt___: libxine1 was installed?
[23:53] <matt___> LjL: yes :??? so do you know the easiest way to setup libgpod .60 to use with an ipod classic?
[23:54] <LjL> matt___: no idea about that
[23:54] <matt___> LjL: ok...thanks.
[23:56] <oOoOoOoO_> matt___: We should have installed eggdropp in here