[03:06] <Hobbsee> geser: sounds sensible, yeah
[05:30] <Flannel> and if you have more than 10, 11 is q, 12 is w, ertyuio work as well.
[08:29] <Iulian> G'morning
[09:17] <Iulian> Does anyone have some spare time to check my debdiff - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5465/plain/ (for pyragua - bug #199014)
[09:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199014 in eric "python-xml removal: please drop/replace (build) dependencies" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199014
[09:18] <Iulian> I've tested it without python-xml and it's working fine.
[10:14] <slomo_> siretart: that's great, i version with monkey's audio support would be nice to have ;) what's the plan for lenny then? and when? :)
[10:32] <siretart> slomo_: TBH, no idea. sam does not respond to my mails :(
[10:34] <BUGabundo> hi there
[10:35] <BUGabundo> in which package is ionice?
[10:36] <geser> util-linux
[10:37] <BUGabundo> thanks geser
[10:40] <slomo_> siretart: too bad :/
[10:44] <Iulian> siretart: Hi, I've attached a new debdiff for nxtvepg package, if you would like to review it when you have some spare time.
[10:44] <hellboy195> slomo_: hi, what about my beagle merge?
[15:14]  * RainCT updated REVU's codebase; if you find some strange problem ping me (there shouldn't be any, but just to be sure)
[16:08] <yen> hi everybody, I need some help to include my deb into the ubuntu repositories
[16:09] <yen> the application's name is subdownloader, it's an automatic subtitle finder for movies
[16:09] <yen> it got more than 600.000 downloads so far, but I want to encourage people download from ubuntu
[16:10] <yen> anybody can help?
[16:11] <Nafallo> !revu
[16:11] <ubotwo> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[16:11] <Nafallo> put it there :-)
[16:12] <crimsun> yen: cf. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[16:13] <yen> thks, i am taking a look
[16:18] <crimsun> xsystemx: virtualbox-ose being the source package residing in universe.  MOTU care for those.
[16:18] <xsystemx> crimsun - you've been a great help !
[16:20] <xsystemx> crimsun - just cant figure out what dvd rom is not in virtualbox settings?
[16:20] <crimsun> keescook: hardening-wrapper installs a symlink for gcc-4.3 and g++-4.3 in hardy, and neither of those are valid for Ubuntu.  May I remove the #4.3# reference from debian/rules?
[16:21] <crimsun> keescook: (as well as debian/p{reinst,ostrm})
[16:24] <crimsun> hmm, I guess you'd want to retain the reference in debian/postrm to handle the hardy->hardy upgrade case.
[16:25] <crimsun> (since it's ||true)
[16:50] <wraund> guys what proccesses relating to the keyboard are restarted after a logout?
[16:50] <wraund> the keyboard jams but logging out fixes it
[16:51] <jdong> X? :)
[16:51] <Nafallo> :-D
[16:54] <protonchris> If I am just changing a package to fix the dependencies (soname bump), do I need to submit a FFE?
[16:55] <zul> no
[16:55] <protonchris> thanks.
[17:05] <hefe_bia> Short question: Should a source change backport change the maintainer field in control?
[17:14] <RainCT> Does this need a FFe? http://code.google.com/p/hotwire-shell/wiki/HotwireChanges#Changes_in_Hotwire_0.710
[17:17] <crimsun> RainCT: IMO, yes.
[17:17] <RainCT> Iulian: ^^
[17:17] <Iulian> Ahh
[17:17] <RainCT> crimsun: ok, thx
[17:20] <crimsun> np
[17:21] <Tilllinux> heya. I'm looking for something like a tutorial for building .deb packages (e.g. the OGRE rendering engine etc)
[17:24] <crimsun> Tilllinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html
[18:30] <crimsun> dpm: it adds an explicit hardy task above and beyond the implicit hardy bug report
[18:30] <crimsun> dpm: IOW, it's unnecessary
[18:31] <dpm> crimsun: ok, thanks
[18:36] <protonchris> Is it too late to request a sync from debian unstable (with a FFE of course)?
[18:37] <protonchris> I should mention that the package I want to sync is in main.
[18:38] <crimsun> protonchris: it might be.  Is it an entirely new version or a new packaging revision?
[18:39] <protonchris> New version.  3.0.1 -> 3.0.2
[18:39] <protonchris> It is libgda.  The soname does stay the same though.
[18:39] <crimsun> likely pretty minor.  Which package?
[18:39] <protonchris> libgda3
[18:40] <crimsun> protonchris: I'd file one, then.
[18:41] <protonchris> Thanks.  I'll give it a shot.
[18:49] <emgent> heya
[19:03] <m8ram> hi, I'm looking for some general information on developing/maintaining packages.  Can anybody here point me in the right direction?
[19:03] <crimsun> m8ram: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html
[19:06] <superm1> crimsun, you got a sec to look over a backports bug?
[19:06] <m8ram> crimsun: thx, but in addition to guidelines concerning packaging something for debian/ubuntu I'm also looking for information on how to start working on the upstream project itself
[19:07] <m8ram> crimsun: especially if the original author appears to have abandoned the project
[20:12] <RainCT> m8ram: well, that depends on each project
[20:13] <RainCT> m8ram: if it seems to be abandoned and you want to adobt it I'd mail the upstream developer asking about it and if he doesn't answer in a reasonable amount of time (2-4 weeks for example) create a fork
[20:14] <m8ram> RainCT: that's one way of doing it, but it didn't seem "right" to me, but then again I have no experience with this...
[20:23] <hellboy195> Folks, I read the manpage but can anyone tell me how to use diffstat correctly?
[20:41] <pochu> hellboy195: diff -ruN old-dir new-dir | diffstat
[20:41] <hellboy195> pochu: oh thanks :D :D:D
[20:52] <marcin_ant> hi all
[20:54] <marcin_ant> I got propably very easy question
[20:54] <marcin_ant> I'm trying to build package using cdbs
[20:54] <marcin_ant> and I use debhelper.mk
[20:56] <marcin_ant> thing is that I would like to run dh_install to verify my *.install files
[21:19] <bddebian> Heya gang
[21:22] <tsmithe> can someone upload the update to mscore provided by the debdiff that's been sitting attached to bug 195179 for two weeks, please?
[21:22] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 195179 in mscore "Please update mscore to 0.9.1d+dfsg-0ubuntu2 (debdiff attached)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195179
[21:38] <RainCT> tsmithe: I'm looking at it :)
[21:38] <tsmithe> thanks RainCT :)
[21:39] <geser> Hi bddebian
[21:39] <bddebian> Heya geser
[21:39] <hellboy195> RainCT: you shouldn't do that ^^. I'm waiting for someone who looks at my merges since 2 weeks :P
[21:39] <RainCT> tsmithe: can I assume that it has been tested and is working?
[21:40] <tsmithe> yes, yes
[21:40] <RainCT> heh
[21:40] <RainCT> hellboy195: reviewing merges is boring :)
[21:40] <tsmithe> it makes life much easier for users who don't know the workings of synthesising
[21:40] <hellboy195> RainCT: bäh :P
[21:41] <hellboy195> RainCT: I already have some experience with merging. So look at my ones. They should be mostly easy so review and ok :D
[21:41]  * RainCT is going to sleep in a few minutes :)
[21:43]  * tsmithe just wishes they'd process fluid-soundfont in debian NEW a bit quicker
[21:43] <hellboy195> RainCT: k ^^
[21:43] <RainCT> hellboy195: subscribe me to some and I'll have a look at those tomorrow ;)
[21:44] <hellboy195> RainCT: great, but you could also look at the u-u-s list ;)
[21:46] <RainCT> hellboy195: I do, when I have time :)
[21:46] <erle-> hi all
[21:47] <hellboy195> RainCT: great :D how many do you want for tomorrow? I can give you 7-8 :P
[21:47] <hellboy195> erle-: hi
[21:47] <erle-> will there be a newer version of swfdec in hardy?
[21:47] <hellboy195> erle-: 0.5.4-1
[21:47] <squentin> I've got the 2 ack for my ffe request (bug #199988). Now I must attach the debdiff to the bug and subscribe u-u-s, right ?
[21:47] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 199988 in gmusicbrowser "[FFe request] Please upgrade gmusicbrowser" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199988
[21:48] <erle-> i think it is a better replacement for adobe flash than gnash is
[21:48] <erle-> hellboy195, current is 0.6.0
[21:48] <hellboy195> squentin: I think you don't have to do anything :)
[21:48] <hellboy195> erle-: yeah but hardy has 0.5.4-1 and I don't think it will get an update
[21:49] <RainCT> hellboy195: 2 or 3 are enough lol
[21:50] <hellboy195> RainCT: ok. Now you see what happens if u-u-s have not enough members ;)
[21:50] <squentin> hellboy195: oh, are you sure, I thought I should upload my package somewhere
[21:50] <RainCT> squentin: yes, attach the debdiff and subscribe u-u-s
[21:50] <hellboy195> DAMN! ^^
[21:50] <squentin> RainCT: ok
[21:51] <squentin> hellboy195: :)
[21:51] <hellboy195> squentin: sry
[21:51] <squentin> hellboy195: no problem
[21:52] <squentin> btw, why use a debdiff, instead of uploading a source package ?
[21:52] <hellboy195> erle-: 0.6 is in debian experimental. If it gets to unstable soon you have a chance to see it in hardy
[21:52] <RainCT> squentin: is the package in Debian?
[21:52] <squentin> no, not yet
[21:52] <erle-> hellboy195, thx for info
[21:53] <RainCT> squentin: ah, then attach the .diff.gz
[21:53] <RainCT> squentin: does it have a debian/watch file or get-orig-source rule?
[21:53] <squentin> yes
[21:53] <RainCT> squentin: okay; so the .diff.gz is enough
[21:53] <hellboy195> erle-: You're welcome :)
[21:53] <squentin> RainCT: ok thanks
[21:54] <erle-> hellboy195, i would like to join the team in packaging etc, but at the moment i do not have the time
[21:54] <hellboy195> erle-: hmm than join later ;)
[21:55] <hellboy195> RainCT: should I also set my merges to "In Progress" after I assigned them to you?
[21:56] <RainCT> hellboy195: subscribe, not assign
[21:56] <hellboy195> ohh
[21:57] <RainCT> well, assign is also good (if that sends me a mail, I'm not sure if it does), but if you just subscribe me someone else might look at it in before
[21:57] <hellboy195> I'll do both
[21:57] <hellboy195> :D
[21:58] <hellboy195> hmm 2 very easy ones for you and 1 easy one ;)
[22:01] <hellboy195> RainCT: Are you sure you only want 3? ^^
[22:01] <RainCT> very sure :)
[22:02] <hellboy195> ah ok. However. THANKS
[22:02] <RainCT> hellboy195: there's always still the u-u-s queue for the case I get bored
[22:03] <hellboy195> RainCT: I'm asking me if others also 2 weeks for a MOTU to approve. If not filter my name ^^
[22:08] <RainCT> hellboy195: I guess there's a "take" missing before the 2?
[22:09] <hellboy195> RainCT: true, or wait. what you want :)
[22:11] <RainCT> tsmithe: FFe bug number please'
[22:11] <RainCT> eh, forget that :P
[22:11] <tsmithe> RainCT, erm, how does that provide new features?
[22:11] <tsmithe> oh ok :)
[22:12] <RainCT> tsmithe: uploading :)
[22:12] <tsmithe> :)
[22:12] <RainCT> (removed the ~ppa changelog entry first)
[22:13] <tsmithe> sure, whatevs :)
[22:21] <crimsun> superm1: a few minutes now
[22:25] <hellboy195> RainCT: I'm going to bed now. If you want more merges just ping me tomorrow. hmm or just take them ;) Again Thanks :D
[22:26] <RainCT> hellboy195: good night :)
[22:27] <hellboy195> RainCT: you too :)
[22:27] <RainCT> btw, is there some way to generate a .deb download script without synaptic?
[22:28] <RainCT> sudo aptitude -t hardy --download-only full-upgrade   's ETA is 7 days here :/
[22:29] <RainCT> and if I had a script for those I could get some of that from school (I've access to some Ubuntu boxes there :))
[22:33] <tsmithe> thanks RainCT :)
[22:33] <tonyyarusso> I see that Bug #193605 has two ACKs since Thursday - might someone have a moment to take care of uploading?
[22:33] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 193605 in conduit "Feature Freeze Exception request for Conduit 0.3.8" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193605
[22:35] <RainCT> tsmithe: np :)
[22:35] <RainCT> good night
[22:36] <tsmithe> night
[22:53] <LaserJock> ScottK: congrats!
[22:54] <tonyyarusso> what'd ScottK do?
[22:55] <LaserJock> he's now a Debian Maintainer
[22:56] <tonyyarusso> Ah, cool.
[23:02] <pochu> ScottK, LaserJock: congratulations :)
[23:03] <bddebian> LaserJock: Aren't you one too?
[23:03] <LaserJock> yes, that's how I know ScottK made it
[23:03] <LaserJock> I got the email
[23:04] <pochu> I read it at d-d-a ;)
[23:06] <cyberix> Are there any specific tools that are used for backporting packageS?
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> cyberix: antidepressants, from what I hear.
[23:08] <bddebian> LaserJock: Ah, nice!
[23:08] <cyberix> :-D
[23:09] <LaserJock> cyberix: prevu perhaps?
[23:12] <jdong> if anyone can come up with an [b]ac[ck]ronym for prozac I'd be happy to rename prevu 1.x.x series :)
[23:13] <cyberix> It is Prozac REVU?
[23:14] <jdong> cyberix: I like that :)
[23:17] <farruinn> I'm trying to make a package but debuild fails at the signing step. It complains that a secret key is not available
[23:19] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: hey, do you have time to upload a FFE that already has 2 ACKs?
[23:20] <ScottK2> LaserJock: Congratulations on DM.
[23:20] <farruinn> On the PackagingGuide/Complete wiki page it says this is because it can't find a key with the same name and e-mail but I thought I created one following the GnuPrivacyGuardHowto page
[23:20] <LaserJock> tonyyarusso: what package?
[23:20] <tonyyarusso> or any of you other people with the power that just started talking :P
[23:20] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: conduit.
[23:20] <ScottK2> farruinn: It needs to be an exact match.  If you're having trouble use the -k option with your keyid.
[23:23] <LaserJock> tonyyarusso: that's a Universe package?
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: Yes.
[23:23] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: well, wait.  Lemme double-check.
[23:24] <tonyyarusso> LaserJock: Yes.
[23:24] <LaserJock> I'm kinda busy
[23:24] <LaserJock> perhaps another MOTU would volunteer
[23:24] <LaserJock> but if not I could maybe do it later
[23:25] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[23:26] <farruinn> ScottK2: Ah, thanks. I didn't realize I needed to include the comment portion of the key as well.
[23:34] <azeem> "If you're not scared by packages generating their patch series by applying sed statements from cdbs include files before passing the patches through an awk filter to quilt until they're finally built with yada, you might be the right person."
[23:34] <azeem> that could also be the MOTU tag line
[23:37] <Laney> That brought me out in a cold sweat when I first read it
[23:37]  * Fujitsu stabs azeem with yada, several times.
[23:38] <azeem> you know where this is from?
[23:38] <Fujitsu> Do I want to?
[23:39] <azeem> it's from the job posting asking for new Debian Security Team members
[23:39] <Fujitsu> Some RFA, or RFH, for some package that deserves to die a horrible painful death?
[23:39] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[23:39]  * Fujitsu is fine with doing Ubuntu security work, and has only had to deal with yada-using packages once or twice.
[23:40] <Fujitsu> It was more than mildly unpleasant, but....
[23:43] <Fujitsu> Too many ScottKs.
[23:44] <ScottK3> One of them will go away in a bit.
[23:44] <ScottK3> azeem: I liked the reply better.
[23:46] <Fujitsu> Anyone know of a way to get LP to give me a list of all open bugs in a package, regardless of whether they're release-specific or not?
[23:46] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu: advanced search: by status?
[23:47] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: In what context, though?
[23:49] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu: from /ubuntu/+source/packagename
[23:50] <Fujitsu> I don't think that'll give me stuff that's closed in the current release.
[23:50] <Fujitsu> But still open in previous ones.
[23:50] <LaserJock> yeah, that might be a tricky one
[23:50]  * tonyyarusso isn't sure
[23:51] <Fujitsu> Looks like I'll have to look through the page for each release then. Yay.
[23:51] <tonyyarusso> I think it does though, b/c I've seen one of the bugs on my subscribe list that way
[23:51] <tonyyarusso> a wordpress sql injection one
[23:51] <Fujitsu> That's a subscription list.
[23:51] <Fujitsu> Which is different.
[23:51] <tonyyarusso> right
[23:51] <tonyyarusso> meh
[23:52]  * tonyyarusso hasn't really bothered learning LP, since it looks like they aren't actually going to O-S it
[23:54] <LaserJock> that's always been the plan, and I haven't heard anything otherwise
[23:54] <pwnguin> i imagine they wont GPL/AFL it until it can track another instance of itself
[23:54] <RAOF> That was the main justification I've heard, yes.
[23:55] <pwnguin> but if it can track sourceforge...
[23:55] <pwnguin> and savahanna
[23:55] <pwnguin> then there doesn't seem to be a large push for it internally
[23:55] <LaserJock> no, it's not about tracking itself
[23:56] <LaserJock> it's about launchpad.net being the canonical instance
[23:58] <LaserJock> although it's odd to have a goal of centralizing FLOSS development while developing a decentralized VCS ;-)
[23:58] <pwnguin> na, you're looking at it wrong