[00:09] <Nikas> what can i do to make the channel change faster? ~10 sec is annoying ;)
[00:11] <HeMan> will 8.04 be 0.21 based?
[00:15] <abstrak> Hi all, anybody know the pctv 310i tv tuner with "remote controller" ? I cannot get any key pressed event !
[00:29] <Arcticpenguin380> is it better to use reiserfs than ext3?
[01:32] <DJDarkstar> hello?
[01:36] <pwnguin> was 8.04 planning on / tracking the mythTV .21 release?
[01:42] <pwnguin> hardy: 0.21.0~fixes16338-0ubuntu3: all
[01:42] <pwnguin> guess so
[02:11] <th1> hi, I have Kubuntu 7.10 and I had a setup with my media pc hooked up to my amp with the coax output of my CM8738 soundcard, everything was working with AC3 and DTS passthrough, now after I did aptitude upgrade last week, it doesn't work except for DTS tracks at all anymore, either it's silent or its downsampled to Dolby Digital on the coax output, any ideas to fix it back to where it was?
[02:13] <th1> the DTS is the only thing that still works
[02:49] <KillerKiwi2005> hello anyone know of a gui for configuring a remote / lirc.conf
[02:56] <th1> KillerKiwi2005, unfortunately not you have to do it by hand :(
[02:57] <KillerKiwi2005> that sucks..... i want repeat for volume up / down and fast froward rewind... i was hoping it wasn't going to be a hit and miss trial
[02:57] <th1> KillerKiwi2005,if the remote is already working you should have a lirc.conf that you can edit to accomplish that
[02:57] <th1> but yeah, it sucks a bit that it's not gui'ed
[02:58] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah it works standard msc usb
[02:58] <th1> you're lucky, I had to compile 3-4 different kernels before I got my remote to work (it's from a hauppauge tv card)
[02:58] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah the usb seems to be the best bet
[02:59] <KillerKiwi2005> I've never had to touch a kernel for a haupauge htough.... just firmware
[02:59] <th1> for the remote I needed a lirc module that wouldn't build with the standard kernel
[03:00] <th1> I'm not sure if I was just unlucky
[03:01] <th1> it's one of the less common dvb cards so maybe that's why
[03:02] <th1> anyway, now I have a dual tuner DVB card in my server so I don't need the tuner functionality in my frontend PC, only use it for the remote. I would like a better interface but I don't really fancy buying anything new when I already have 3 remote control units for hauppauge :)
[03:04] <KillerKiwi2005> 2 true... i have 3 of them lying around
[03:04] <KillerKiwi2005> the blaster for the usb works well which is an added bonus
[03:04] <th1> do your hauppauge remotes work with tat?
[03:05] <th1> s/tat/that/
[03:05] <KillerKiwi2005> ?
[03:05] <th1> does the hauppauge remote work with the usb blaster/receiver?
[03:06] <KillerKiwi2005> yes
[03:06] <th1> ah
[03:06] <th1> maybe I should get one then
[03:06] <th1> mine have the PCI cards with the phono socket receiver
[03:06] <KillerKiwi2005> Got a haupauge 150 wocked up to a sky box... it  uses the blaster to change the channel
[03:06] <Egghead3> i just updated, now none of the modules work, any ideas how or where to start to fix it?
[03:06] <th1> Egghead3, join the club ;)
[03:07] <Egghead3> ahh so common error with new updates?
[03:07] <KillerKiwi2005> mythtv rule #1... if it works DO NOT UPGRADE lol
[03:07] <th1> I think you just need to update a couple of times and then restart both frontend and backend
[03:07] <th1> worked for me except for my weird audio problem, which they say is not mythtv but something else
[03:08] <Egghead3> cool, i didnt try restarting frontends :)
[03:08] <Egghead3> and yea, i have to start obaying rule #1
[03:09] <rhpot1991> universal rule #1 if its working, mess around with things till you break it, especially at 2am
[03:09]  * KillerKiwi2005 ...wondars how hard a small pygtk would be for lircrc.conf
[03:09] <Egghead3> th1, i get a wierd audio error in mythfrontend log somthing about cant find audio, skipping....
[03:09] <KillerKiwi2005> rhpot1991: then the misses gets mad cause the box broke
[03:09] <Egghead3> rhpot, oh then i have been doing rule #1 right, lmao
[03:09] <KillerKiwi2005> the box she didnt think we needed in the first place ;)
[03:09] <rhpot1991> I've had a few examples where my wife's soap opera hasn't recorded the next day cause I broke something the night before
[03:10] <rhpot1991> I like to break my router in the wii hours of the morning
[03:10] <KillerKiwi2005> like locking out all your macs instead of allowing them :)
[03:10] <KillerKiwi2005> stupid toggle button
[03:10] <rhpot1991> well I run openwrt, so it normally involves making the router completely unusable
[03:10] <th1> Egghead3, it's nothing like my problem I think
[03:14] <KillerKiwi2005> i dont like to mess with the firmware... i have good fear of a bricked router
[03:15] <rhpot1991> well it depends how much of a flash friendly router you have
[03:17] <rhpot1991> I also specifically bought both of these for this purpose so newegg would have been taking them back if I screwed up
[03:18] <KillerKiwi2005> linksys WRT54G
[03:18] <rhpot1991> depending on the version it could run other firmwares
[03:18] <rhpot1991> I bought some asus wl500gP's
[03:18] <rhpot1991> love them
[03:19] <KillerKiwi2005> theres a bug in its dyndnd.... it never refreshs properly really anoying
[03:19] <rhpot1991> strange, works fine for me
[03:19] <rhpot1991> dyndns you mean right?
[03:19] <KillerKiwi2005> yes
[03:20] <KillerKiwi2005> its the router its self... it works if i can in and reset it but it drops after a while
[03:22] <KillerKiwi2005> hmmm  mythbuntu-lircrc-generator can set the delay / repeat
[03:23] <KillerKiwi2005> it really needs a ui is all
[03:24] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005, we're looking for someone with some time to author one if you'd like to take that up :)
[03:24] <KillerKiwi2005> .... might do it ..... it would be a nice to have... lirc requires vodo magic at the moment...
[03:26] <Egghead3> th1, rebooted frontend, and updated backend again, worked great, thanks
[03:27] <th1> np :)
[04:27] <Egghead3> is the internal player a program i can run from desktop or command line?
[04:27] <superm1> mythtv $FILE
[04:27] <superm1> should do it
[04:28] <Egghead3> cool thanks :)
[06:42] <camelreef> Good morning from Scotland
[06:43] <camelreef> wooot, .21 !
[07:07] <HeMan> Hi! Is therer any checks that trunk is built correctly?
[07:08] <HeMan> meaning, is the trunk repository checked after building it?
[07:15] <camelreef> HeMan, I'm not involved with that at all, and can;t provide an answer, but what do you mean by "checked"?
[07:20] <camelreef> and from what I have read, trunk at this time only has the .21 that got released
[07:20] <camelreef> and is not moving much
[07:26] <camelreef> until 0.21 gets into the official backports, then -trunk will resume tracking the trunk stuff
[07:26] <camelreef> so I dare hope that today -trunk works quite nicely
[07:34] <superm1> well i sure hope it works right
[07:34] <superm1> i've got no way to test it...
[07:34] <superm1> no gutsy boxes here.
[07:37] <rhpot1991> I haven't noticed anything wrong with my trunk builds, got a specific problem?
[07:37] <superm1> HeMan, is something wrong with them?
[07:41] <camelreef> superm1, thanks for the answer on the mythtv users list
[07:41] <camelreef> <- Nico
[07:42] <superm1> oh hi :)
[07:42] <camelreef> hello :)
[07:42] <camelreef> I should just as well as here too
[07:42] <camelreef> are there changes regarding utf8 with 0.21 ?
[07:43] <superm1> nothing that we have directly changed in the packaging
[07:43] <superm1> i can't speak for upstream though
[07:43] <camelreef> my tables are all using latin1_swedish for whatever reason, and that's medding my French stuff
[07:43] <camelreef> messing
[07:43] <camelreef> ok
[07:43] <camelreef> I'll ask on list on a separate thread
[07:43] <HeMan> superm1: it says it's the wrong version on libmyth
[07:44] <HeMan> i just tried to purge libmyth and installing it again to see if that solves the problem
[07:44] <camelreef> I've seen a wiki page about utf8, but I'd rather not play with the DB manually if I can avoid it
[07:45] <superm1> HeMan, can you elaborate?
[07:45] <superm1> on a plugin?
[07:45] <superm1> or on which?
[07:45] <superm1> or on package installation?
[07:46] <HeMan> on all plugins
[07:46] <superm1> can you pastebin dpkg -l | grep myth?
[07:46] <HeMan> but it could be that i get some packages from gutsy-backports
[07:47] <HeMan> is there any way to see from which repository i get a package?
[07:47] <superm1> HeMan, if you show me that dpkg -l output
[07:47] <superm1> i can telll you where they are coming from
[07:47] <superm1> but also
[07:47] <superm1> you can look at that via apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[07:49] <HeMan> superm1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5462/
[07:49] <superm1> HeMan, you have old plugins packages installed
[07:50] <superm1> update your apt lists again
[07:50] <HeMan> just did
[07:50] <superm1> what mirror are you on?
[07:50] <HeMan> uk
[07:50] <superm1> yeah uk is slower at updating
[07:51] <superm1> it only syncs from the builder two times a day or so
[07:51] <superm1> us updates every 4 hours
[07:51] <superm1> you can either switch to US, wait it out, or grab the binaries here for now https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk/+archive
[07:51] <HeMan> i'll try the us repo
[07:52]  * superm1 pings Daviey 
[07:52] <HeMan> it's somewhat of a chrisis here, my son want's to see his movie...
[07:52] <superm1> Daviey, can you check UK repo and see if maybe you can manually sync it?
[07:52] <superm1> HeMan, just grab the mythvideo deb then if you need
[07:52] <superm1> its on that URL i gave you
[07:53] <HeMan> already switched to the us mirror and updated
[07:54] <HeMan> i'll switch back now
[07:55] <HeMan> we really love the bookmark-in-a-movie feature!
[07:56] <superm1> ooh i didn't even know that was in
[07:56] <superm1> nice
[07:56] <HeMan> now we don't need to see the same part of the movie everyday...
[07:57] <HeMan> btw, will the "regular" weekly builds switch to 0.21?
[07:57] <HeMan> and will 8.04 be 0.21-based?
[07:58] <superm1> 8.04 has 0.21 already
[07:58] <superm1> the regular weekly builds will be 0.21-fixes when hardy opens
[07:59] <superm1> HeMan, see this url http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/321398#321398
[07:59] <superm1> for details
[07:59] <superm1> that's the plan for now
[07:59] <Daviey> HeMan: should be done now
[08:01] <HeMan> has anyone tried to use pulseaudio over network?
[08:01] <superm1> it's on my todo list at least
[08:01] <superm1> but not yet :)
[08:03] <HeMan> i'm having a hard time to _not_ upgrade to hardy before it's released...
[08:04] <superm1> yeah i'm glad all my machines are hardy now
[08:04] <superm1> especially since there is still time to fix bugs that i catch
[08:04]  * camelreef is ready to hit the PPA and not wait for the backport, backups done....
[08:04] <camelreef> talk me out of it !
[08:04] <superm1> i really hope that lots of people upgrade early and catch bugs
[08:05] <superm1> like now would be *great*
[08:05] <HeMan> i'm running hardy on my laptop and think it works good, but the htpc is more mission critical...
[08:05] <camelreef> you are not talking me out of it ;o)
[08:05] <superm1> yeah well i'm not going to talk anyone out of it that wants to right now :)
[08:06] <HeMan> camelreef: do it! :)
[08:10] <HeMan> does mythtv work as a upnp-"renderer" in 0.21?
[08:11] <superm1> unfortunately not still
[08:11] <superm1> you mean client by renderer i take it
[08:11] <superm1> it will serve
[08:11] <superm1> but thats it
[08:11] <HeMan> oki
[08:12] <camelreef> OK, DB has been dumped, /etc/mythtv, /etc/lirc, /etc/LCDd, /home/mythfront/.lircrc and /home/mythfront/.mythtv backed up
[08:12] <camelreef> anything else I should keep just in case ?
[08:12] <superm1> you're being a lot safer than i would have been already :)
[08:12] <superm1> or i should say than i was..
[08:12] <camelreef> I have a prod system here
[08:12] <superm1> yeah so did I.  I needed some way to test builds though :)
[08:12] <camelreef> I value my life
[08:13] <superm1> haha
[08:13] <HeMan> how is the auto discovery of backends and frontends done?
[08:13] <HeMan> avahi?
[08:13] <superm1> upnp
[08:13] <camelreef> let me make a pot of caffeine, and I'll use the PPA
[08:14] <HeMan> wah? i have allmost 900 gb of data on my mythbox now!
[08:14] <HeMan> i really have to do some cleaning...
[08:17] <HeMan> ah, let's enable projectm
[08:20] <camelreef> aptitude update...
[08:21] <camelreef> aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:21] <camelreef> 19 packages upgraded, 23 newly installed, 3 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:21] <superm1> ddue dont use aptitude
[08:21] <superm1> you pull more stuff than you need usually
[08:21] <camelreef> huh ?
[08:22] <superm1> it pulls recommends by default
[08:22] <superm1> apt-get doesnt
[08:22] <camelreef> I know, but it's been behaving OK lately
[08:22] <camelreef> ah, yes, indeed
[08:23] <camelreef> apt-get : 19 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:23] <superm1> see :)
[08:23] <camelreef> I'll remove mythdvd manually, then
[08:24] <camelreef> but aptitude gets the recommended stuff, which I like, I get less surprises when a weird function doesn't work because an optional lib is not there
[08:24] <superm1> well up to you :)
[08:24] <camelreef> downloading
[08:28]  * camelreef try to contains his grin
[08:28] <camelreef> -s
[08:29]  * camelreef ties to remain calm and not worry too much, apt is good, and the packages' creator know what they are doing
[08:32] <DiggThis> superm1: please tell me why I have had a perfect working system for a few days and now after the latest updates cannot schedule shows anymore?
[08:33] <superm1> no i can't
[08:33] <camelreef> download done, here we go, upgrading
[08:34] <camelreef> superm1, ah, one issue
[08:35] <camelreef> mythtv-database expects that the root user for mysql to have an empty password
[08:35] <superm1> camelreef, that's normal
[08:35] <superm1> reconfigure mythtv-database
[08:35] <superm1> and it will ask you for it
[08:35] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[08:36] <camelreef> I know, just a heads up
[08:36] <superm1> that way covers the "common" case of no root password
[08:36] <superm1> thanks
[08:36] <camelreef> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mythweather_0.21.0-0ubuntu0mythbuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[08:36] <camelreef>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/default-wide/mw-background.png', which is also in package mythtv-common
[08:36] <camelreef> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:36] <DiggThis> superm1: do ya think daily defrag of xfs could be causing problems?/
[08:36] <superm1> DiggThis, usually that solves them....
[08:36] <superm1> camelreef, now that can be a problem there...
[08:36] <superm1> that's a rather odd errror.
[08:36] <superm1> can you please file a bug with that output?
[08:37] <superm1> er all of your terminal output
[08:37] <superm1> leading up to that rather
[08:37] <camelreef> K
[08:37] <camelreef> bug url ?
[08:37] <superm1> bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[08:37] <superm1> that will do
[08:38] <superm1> camelreef, for now, remove mythweather, and reinstall it after the rest of the upgrade finishes
[08:38] <DiggThis> superm1: do u have a recommendation?
[08:38] <camelreef> superm1, OK
[08:38] <superm1> DiggThis, other than checking SQL tables for inconsistencies, no not really
[08:38] <DiggThis> i dont even have sql turned on though
[08:39] <superm1> DiggThis, you still have it runnign locally
[08:39] <superm1> DiggThis, run an optimize/repair command on the tables
[08:39] <superm1> there is support in MCC to do it
[08:39] <superm1> or phpmyadmin
[08:40] <superm1> or newer versions of mythweb
[08:40] <DiggThis> alreadyt done and not working. is there any way i can uninstall the latest updates?
[08:40] <superm1> DiggThis, i highly doubt it's caused by the latest updates - other people would have been complaining about similar problems
[08:41] <superm1> DiggThis, and did you look at mythbackend's logs in verbose?
[08:41] <superm1> turning them more verbose can show you why the scheduler is having troubles
[08:41] <superm1> DiggThis, to do verbose mode edit /etc/default/mythtv-backend
[08:42] <DiggThis> over my head sorry superm1 just seems weird maybe xfs is the problem, u think? what do u run for your video partition?
[08:42] <superm1> xfs.
[08:42] <superm1> DiggThis, well do this
[08:42] <DiggThis> only happened today which is weird was working fine till then and now my tuner does not even work for live tv
[08:42] <superm1> edit that file
[08:43] <superm1> dude that means broken tables
[08:43] <superm1> the mcc optimizer must not have been able to fix them
[08:43] <superm1> all of these signs point to that
[08:43] <superm1> install phpmyadmin
[08:43] <superm1> and do it from there
[08:43] <camelreef> !bug 200084
[08:43] <DiggThis> k then thx please explain not sure how to on windows with other pc
[08:44] <superm1> thanks camelreef.  i'll see if i can't get that sorted out before the official backport goes through...
[08:44] <superm1> DiggThis, apt-get install phpmyadmin
[08:44] <superm1> then visit http://IPADDRESS/phpmyadmin
[08:44] <superm1> where IPADDRESS is your address
[08:45] <DiggThis> do u think it could have been defrag that did it?
[08:45] <superm1> no i dont
[08:45] <superm1> bad shutdown
[08:45] <superm1> or power outage
[08:45] <superm1> or something like that maybe
[08:45] <superm1> but usually a defrag doesn't cause problems
[08:46] <DiggThis> yes thats it!!! power went out yesterday...
[08:46] <superm1> okay there you go.
[08:46] <superm1> so once you get phpmyadmin installed, you'll be able to 'repair' all of your tables
[08:46] <superm1> and reboot
[08:46] <superm1> and things should be better
[08:46] <DiggThis> k ill install it now and by the way do u think i should leave on enable daily mythtv repair?
[08:47] <superm1> well it clearly isn't working, so i dont think so
[08:47] <camelreef> superm1, funny, mythweather was not installed at all in fact, a plain install just worked
[08:47] <DiggThis> what do u use as ur root file system?
[08:47] <superm1> ext3
[08:47] <superm1> camelreef, interesting
[08:47] <DiggThis> k awesome installing the app now
[08:47] <superm1> DiggThis, i need to go to bed though.
[08:48] <DiggThis> k
[08:48] <superm1> camelreef, could you walk DiggThis through repairing his tables?
[08:48] <superm1> in phpmyadmin?
[08:48] <DiggThis> if u could that be awesome man
[08:49] <superm1> DiggThis, if not and no one else is in here that would be able to, you can ask nicely in #mythtv-users if someone could help you do it
[08:49] <DiggThis> k
[08:49] <DiggThis> thx legend
[08:49] <camelreef> superm1, hmmmm, I did not follow the conversation
[08:49] <camelreef> lemme see
[08:49] <superm1> camelreef, he needs to repair some tables in phpmyadmin
[08:49] <superm1> just need to walk him through how to do so
[08:49] <camelreef> OK
[08:49] <superm1> okay folks.  best of luck
[08:49] <superm1> night
[08:50] <camelreef> night
[08:50] <camelreef> DiggThis,
[08:50] <DiggThis> thx superm1 and camelreef
[08:50] <camelreef> DiggThis, you got a terminal access to your myth bxackend?
[08:50] <DiggThis> could do
[08:50] <camelreef> open a terminal session
[08:50] <camelreef> to it
[08:51] <camelreef> tell me when you are done
[08:51] <DiggThis> k
[08:51] <camelreef> type
[08:51] <DiggThis> im in
[08:51] <camelreef> mysqlcheck -uroot mythconverg
[08:52] <camelreef> tell me if there is any table that is not OK
[08:52] <DiggThis> all good
[08:52] <camelreef> ah
[08:52] <camelreef> then you DB is fine
[08:52] <camelreef> let me read back
[08:53] <DiggThis> k
[08:53] <camelreef> what your problem may be
[08:53] <DiggThis> something to do with power outage
[08:54] <camelreef> all the mythconverg tables are OK, are you sure ?
[08:55] <DiggThis> yes
[08:55] <DiggThis> what about trying the php thing?
[08:56] <camelreef> it would do the same
[08:57] <DiggThis> anyway to reset the tables?
[08:57] <DiggThis> or create new ones
[08:58] <camelreef> hold on
[09:02] <camelreef> ok, run:
[09:02] <camelreef> perl /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/optimize_mythdb.pl
[09:03] <DiggThis> k
[09:03] <camelreef> using your frontend user
[09:04] <DiggThis> done
[09:06] <DiggThis> what now? restart or something?
[09:08] <camelreef> yup
[09:08] <camelreef> DiggThis, I'm sorry, but I cannot help much beyond this
[09:09] <camelreef> I'm not a guru or anything
[09:09] <DiggThis> no problem ill try it you have helped me heaps mate
[09:09] <DiggThis> thankyou
[09:09] <camelreef> but a mythbuntu install make daily backups of the DB that can be found in /var/backups
[09:10] <DiggThis> how would i do it? can it be done automatically?
[09:10] <camelreef> well, weekly backups
[09:10] <camelreef> not automatically
[09:10] <camelreef> you would be able to use phpmyadmin
[09:11] <DiggThis> dont know about that program
[09:11] <camelreef> *if* this is DB-related
[09:11] <camelreef> sorry, cannot do more
[09:11] <camelreef> gotta go
[09:11] <DiggThis> k
[09:11] <DiggThis> done
[10:25] <myth-newb> mythbuntu lcd issue. I have patched the drivers and now it displays the time and will display lcdproc server if i type LCDd -f -r 4 but that is it
[11:04] <Nikas> .21 final in weekly trunk now?
[11:19] <Nikas> missing many themes with .21 from the trunk..
[12:00] <hitme> good morning
[12:01] <hitme> where i find a changelog for the 8.04 updates from today ?
[12:36] <PatrikH> Anyone here been using 0.21 trunk and switched to 0.21 stable ?
[12:41] <hitme> if you mean an 8.04 user who just updated, .. i am .. but now mythweb won't run anymore
[12:43] <Nikas> PatrikH: yes.. (jag har hehe)
[12:45] <Nikas> .21 stable seems to be in the trunk repo now..
[12:48] <PatrikH> Nikas: Ok, how did you go about doing it ? I´m using Ubuntu 7.10 (Är det ok att köra PM?)
[12:48] <Nikas> PatrikH: It's in trunk now. Just did apt-get update/upgrade :)
[12:49] <Nikas> PM är ok
[12:49] <Nikas> (PM is ok) :)
[12:49] <PatrikH> Gah, need to register, you reged ?
[12:49] <hitme> any1 else having datase connection truble with mythweb after update ?
[12:49] <Nikas> PatrikH: yep ;)
[12:50] <PatrikH> pls msg me ;)
[12:55] <PatrikH> Ok, so that was a dead end, maybe should refrase the Q: Anyone gone from using "svn" 0.21 trunk("svn") to 0.21 stable ? ("svn" or apt-get)
[13:24] <hitme> can any1 help me please, i am out of ideas ;) i updated to the 21 fixes and now mythweb can'T get access to db anymore
[13:35] <PatrikH> Anyone know if it´s possible to use the mythbuntu weekly builds on "normal" Ubuntu ?
[13:58] <PatrikH> nobody ? :(
[15:18] <HeMan> Is anyone runing Myth on OSX?
[15:26] <gcleric> may be not in this channel...
[15:26] <gcleric> but you may want to look at...
[15:26] <gcleric> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_on_Mac_OS_X
[15:29] <camelreef> afternoon
[15:30] <camelreef> superm1, ?
[15:31] <camelreef> OK, who here is using xvmv and opengl with nvidia and 0.21 ?
[15:32] <laga> camelreef: you can't do that with the hardy builds. unless you're referring to opengl vsync
[15:32] <camelreef> hi laga
[15:32] <laga> hi :)
[15:32] <camelreef> I'm using the gutsy backport
[15:33] <camelreef> from the PPA
[15:33] <camelreef> and please explain
[15:33] <laga> i'm not sure if it's enabled there... it'll most likely be automatically disabled with the next upload because the xvmc-opengl renderer is highly experimental, unstable and whatnot
[15:34] <camelreef> ah
[15:34] <PatrikH> hmm, i can´t install 0.21 from mythbuntu auto-builds on normal ubuntu. Missing the following: ttf-liberation. Can´t seem to fins a rep that has it.
[15:34] <laga> the mythtv developers don't even recommend the normal opengl renderers, although they're enabled in the ubuntu builds
[15:35] <camelreef> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5474/
[15:35] <camelreef> laga, OK, then
[15:35] <laga> camelreef: please disable xvmc-opengl in your playback profile and check if it persists
[15:36] <laga> as you can see in the logs, xvmc-opengl is not available
[15:36] <laga> is it selectable?!
[15:36] <camelreef> laga, using the "high quality" profile works
[15:36] <laga> cool
[15:36] <camelreef> it is selectable
[15:37] <camelreef> I was just trying oprion that could give me xvmc and color OSD ;o)
[15:37] <camelreef> and no OSD flicker
[15:37] <laga> yadif and greedyh, maybe their 2x variants? although they use lots of CPU
[15:37] <laga> ah
[15:38] <laga> no, you can't use them with XvMC, sorry
[15:38] <camelreef> nevermind
[15:38] <camelreef> I'm trying out the new version, it's cool to have it on day 1 of the release
[15:38] <camelreef> I've already opened a bug on the upgrade
[15:38] <laga> cool
[15:38] <laga> it'll be fixed soon i hope :)
[15:39] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200084
[15:39] <camelreef> the UI apparently freezes once in a while too
[15:39] <camelreef> I'm trying to find consistency about this one, and some logs before opening a bug
[15:39] <laga> camelreef: wow, xvmc-opengl is indeed selectable. how annoying. maybe you can raise a bug for that, too?
[15:39] <camelreef> will do
[15:42]  * laga loves 0.21 so far. :)
[15:42] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/200214
[15:42] <camelreef> done
[15:42] <laga> thanks
[15:42] <camelreef> 0.21 is way cool
[15:43] <camelreef> lots of small things everywhere
[15:43] <laga> yes
[15:43] <laga> and some big things like multirec :)
[15:43] <camelreef> oh, and there is a thing with mythweather
[15:43] <camelreef> when configuring the plugin, it says I should hit "menu" to move on and save
[15:43] <laga> yes, mythweather was redesigned.. i tried it a few months ago and it was.. less than stellar
[15:43] <camelreef> menu is not working there
[15:44] <camelreef> when it is everywhere else
[15:44] <laga> camelreef: report it! we need as many reports as we can get :)
[15:44] <camelreef> I tried using the remote and using the keyboard
[15:45] <PatrikH> Just whant to report that moving from svn trunk to mythbuntu trunk went well so far.
[15:45] <laga> PatrikH: cool
[15:46] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/200216
[15:47] <camelreef> oh well, and another one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/200214
[15:47] <nettow0822_> how did you upgrade to ver .21?
[15:48] <PatrikH> Just have to add deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt gutsy main to source.list
[15:48] <camelreef> automatix kills kittens
[15:49] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/200217
[15:49] <nettow0822_> i was looking at the gossamer threads....and superm1 was talking about using the backports
[15:49] <camelreef> laga, 4 bugs from me in the pipeline
[15:49] <PatrikH> they also provide ttf-liberation that is needed by mythtv
[15:51] <camelreef> well, if you do not care about kittens, maybe you will care about the stability and upgradability of your system, then
[15:51]  * camelreef gotta go
[15:51] <PatrikH> I would love to install mythtv without ttf-liberation
[15:52] <camelreef-afk> I did
[15:52] <camelreef-afk> or I had proper and clean repos
[15:52] <PatrikH> but depencis say that i need ttf-liberation and thats were i found it ?
[15:53] <PatrikH> pls share
[15:54] <laga> PatrikH: maybe you can get ttf-liberation from hardy
[15:55] <laga> PatrikH: or you can install the msttcorefonts
[15:55] <hitme> can any1 help me please, i am out of ideas ;) i updated to the 21 fixes and now mythweb can'T get access to db anymore
[15:56] <PatrikH> hitme: change password in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mythweb.conf ?
[15:56] <hitme> let me check
[15:57] <hitme> all ok there
[15:58] <laga> did you update mythweb as well?
[15:58] <hitme> i did all updates who came with packet manager
[15:58] <laga> ok. was mythweb updated? :)
[15:58] <hitme> and its telling me version 0.21.21 fixes
[15:58] <hitme> yes
[15:58] <PatrikH> if you do mysql -u mythtv -p and enter the password you belive it is, does it work ?
[15:59] <hitme> yes
[16:00] <hitme> eveything is working beside mythweb
[16:00] <hitme> even mythstream working now
[16:01] <PatrikH> I´m working on the same, but mine could connect to te db but not to mythbackend. reinstalling it now
[16:02] <hitme> The database environment variables are not correctly set in the webserver conf or .htaccess file. Please read through the comments included in the file and set up the db_* environment variables correctly.
[16:02] <hitme> Some possible solutions are to make sure that mod_env is enabled in httpd.conf, as well as having followed the instructions in the README and INSTALL files.
[16:02] <hitme> thats the error msg the webowser showing me
[16:03] <hitme> backend works, i even can use the windows mythtv client to see live tv .. just the web is broken :/
[16:04] <hitme> and i dunno how to check if mod_env enabled
[16:05] <PatrikH>  a2enmod env
[16:05] <PatrikH> Mine says: This module is already enabled!
[16:06] <hitme> same here
[16:06] <PatrikH> Then it is enabled
[16:07] <laga> what does the apache log says?
[16:07] <laga>  /var/log/apache2/
[16:07] <laga> err, say, not says :)
[16:07] <hitme> checking
[16:08] <hitme> error log or access log ?
[16:08] <laga> both? :)
[16:09] <hitme> 192.168.178.21 - - [09/Mar/2008:17:01:37 +0100] "GET /mythweb/ HTTP/1.1" 200 713 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3) Gecko/2008021416 Firefox/3.0b3"
[16:09] <hitme> 192.168.178.21 - - [09/Mar/2008:17:01:37 +0100] "GET /mythweb/skins/errors.css HTTP/1.1" 200 394 "http://192.168.178.21/mythweb/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3) Gecko/2008021416 Firefox/3.0b3"
[16:09] <hitme> 192.168.178.21 - - [09/Mar/2008:17:01:37 +0100] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 326 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3) Gecko/2008021416 Firefox/3.0b3"
[16:09] <hitme> 192.168.178.21 - - [09/Mar/2008:17:01:40 +0100] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 326 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b3) Gecko/2008021416 Firefox/3.0b3"
[16:09] <hitme> thats access
[16:10] <hitme> hmm log hase more lines for last entry, still post/spam here ?
[16:10] <laga> no
[16:10] <laga> www.pastebin.ca
[16:10] <hitme> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5476/
[16:11] <laga> do you still get that File does not exist: /var/www/mythweb
[16:11] <laga> error now?
[16:14] <hitme> seems not, at least now when i refrech the site access and reopen the log
[16:23] <hitme> ... works now ..
[16:23] <laga> what did you do?
[16:23] <hitme> ... /etc/init.d/apache2 stop then /etc/init.d/apache2 start fixed it
[16:24] <hitme> ... but i still wonder why this helpen and a reboot didn't
[16:25] <laga> odd, indeed.
[16:25] <laga> maybe you guys want to report a bug if mythweb isn't working for you
[16:25] <laga> please provide as much information as possible
[16:26] <hitme> well i had to rewrite all configs myself everywhare was dbhost "" oder "hfkhjfhjkh" after update
[16:27] <PatrikH> My fresh install is working perfect so far.
[16:27] <hitme> my update now also .. just the web was broken after update
[16:28]  * hitme writes a reminder for himself ... "so check all configs and restart apache2 then its will work"
[16:28] <PatrikH> Changed the password in mythweb.conf and restarted apache. Had some trouble but that was my old install that wasnt removed completly
[16:34] <nettow0822_> PatrikH I have automatix setup.....is there a certain amount of time I should expect before I see the myth update?
[16:35] <laga> does automatix contain mythtv?
[16:43] <PatrikH> no no they had the ttf-liberation package that mythtv needs
[16:43] <PatrikH> thats all
[16:43] <PatrikH> I just used their repo, not the program
[16:44] <nettow0822_> oh well....thats was what I was asking earlier.....where to get .21
[16:44] <hitme> 0.21 should come from the update server
[16:45] <PatrikH> I did the following, added mythbuntu auto-builds trunk http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds and then installed it
[16:45] <laga> PatrikH: i think 0.21 is in the trunk build
[16:45] <laga> but.. um
[16:45] <laga> err, -fixes build.
[16:45] <laga> but see the topic, there's a link
[16:45]  * laga is quite confused today
[16:46] <PatrikH> he
[16:46] <PatrikH> To add to your confusion I´m not running mythbuntu
[16:46] <laga> oh noes. :)
[16:48] <nettow0822_> so if I use the Automated Weekly MythTV 0.20-fixes Builds.....I could upgrade?
[16:49] <hitme> i run mythbuntu 8.04, and when i turned on the machin today morning the update was in the fresh repro liberys
[16:49] <PatrikH> Well, i think you sould have to use the Automated Weekly MythTV Trunk Builds today, don´t know when the other one is gonna be updated
[16:52] <hitme> gahhh damn i got an another error .. the new skins only showing black to me :/
[16:52] <laga> hitme: they're called "themes". if you call them skins, justinh will come for you
[16:52] <hitme> lol ^
[16:52] <hitme> ^
[16:52] <hitme> ^^
[16:53] <hitme> grr ^
[16:53] <hitme> ok the "themes" only showing black screen ^
[16:54] <PatrikH> Wasn´t it justin that gave it all up because nobody whanted to pay/help him?
[16:54] <sonium> hi, are hdmi graficcards know to work with ubuntu?
[16:55] <PatrikH> ..and every day got very mad at least 5 times per day
[16:55] <hitme> where is the file who i decide the frontend theme ?
[16:55] <laga> PatrikH: i don't think he was after money. he gave up because he got hate mail after retiring some of his themes, AFAIK
[16:56] <hitme> hatmails becouse he was doing skins ?
[16:56] <hitme> *themes
[16:56] <hitme> ^^
[16:57] <laga> no, because he wasn't going to maintain them anymore
[16:57] <hitme> aha ok
[16:57] <PatrikH> laga: Ok, but there was some talk about some company using his themes without paying. But i didn't mean that he was after the money.
[16:57] <laga> yeah, that too, probably
[16:57] <camelreef-afk> sonium, HDMI is more or less DVI, they should work
[16:58] <laga> and the whole "why mythtv sucks" thing on the ML were people kept picking on the UI (among other things)
[16:58] <PatrikH> I´v used hdmi and it worked. It was a ati so i gave it up but the hdmi part worked
[17:00] <sonium> thx
[17:01] <camelreef> PatrikH, OK, what's in your sources.list?
[17:01] <camelreef> why is it that you have a missing font when others do not
[17:02]  * camelreef is running Gutsy_updates+backports+medibuntu+mythbuntuPPA and I upgraded all right this morning outside of a hickup (bug reported)
[17:02] <camelreef> That would be Gutsy+security+updates+backports+medibuntu+mythbuntuPPA
[17:03] <PatrikH> No backports
[17:04] <nettow0822_> if I switch to Automated Weekly MythTV Trunk Builds....I should be able to upgrade myth to .21?
[17:04] <sonium> there seem to be know mainboards that offer both, hdmi and svideo output
[17:04] <camelreef> nettow0822_, yes
[17:04] <sonium> know = no
[17:04] <rhpot1991> nettow0822_: for now yes, but eventually that will be .22 trunk
[17:05] <rhpot1991> I think this is all explained in the topic
[17:05] <nettow0822_> I just wanted to make sure what I read
[17:06] <rhpot1991> I have 0.21.0-0ubuntu0mythbuntu1  from the trunk weekly builds
[17:07] <nettow0822_> you can't stop the trunk builds once you start then as I read it
[17:08] <nettow0822_> I'm having a channel tuning issue currently....according to sphery...I needed .21 to resolve it
[17:11] <nettow0822_> once I get the .21 version...could I not disable the repository?
[17:13] <PatrikH> Added backports but still don't have that font.
[17:13] <PatrikH> camelreef: Could you detail that package and see from were you gets it
[17:13] <camelreef> exact package name ?
[17:14] <PatrikH> ttf-liberation
[17:14] <camelreef> $ apt-cache policy ttf-liberation
[17:14] <camelreef> ttf-liberation:
[17:14] <camelreef>   Installed: (none)
[17:14] <camelreef>   Candidate: (none)
[17:14] <camelreef>   Version table:
[17:14] <camelreef> don't have it, don't need it
[17:15] <laga> camelreef: you probably have msttcorefonts
[17:15] <camelreef> $ apt-cache policy msttcorefonts
[17:15] <camelreef> msttcorefonts:
[17:15] <camelreef>   Installed: 2.2
[17:15] <camelreef>   Candidate: 2.2
[17:15] <camelreef>   Version table:
[17:15] <camelreef>  *** 2.2 0
[17:15] <camelreef>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages
[17:15] <camelreef>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:16] <camelreef> indeed
[17:16] <PatrikH> But wy doesn't apt ask for that instead ?
[17:16] <camelreef> netto
[17:16] <rhpot1991> camelreef: sure you can, just remove the source and they go away
[17:16] <camelreef> yes
[17:16] <rhpot1991> actually that should have been pointed at nettow0822_
[17:16] <camelreef> nettow0822_, yes, just remove, make sure that the backports are still there, as it will move there soon
[17:18] <camelreef> PatrikH, what package needs those ttf-liberation fonts ?
[17:18] <nettow0822_> ok thanks
[17:19] <camelreef> looking for a file *liberation* returns nothing for me
[17:20] <PatrikH> When doing apt-get install mythtv, "mythtv" said that mythtv-backend and mythtv-frontend needed ttf-liberation.
[17:20] <camelreef> where are you getting the FE and BE packages from ?
[17:20] <camelreef> what is 'apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend' saying ?
[17:21] <PatrikH> Just so you know, everything is working
[17:21] <nettow0822_> one more thing....will I need to make all myth boxes the .21 version?
[17:21] <camelreef> I would like to understand, I have no trace of any ttf-liberation stuff on my install
[17:21] <PatrikH> And i'v just installed msttcorefonts now and then i could uninstall ttf-liberation without it wanting to remove mythtv
[17:24] <laga> mythtv-frontend wants either ttf-liberation or msttcorefonts
[17:24] <laga> with ttf-liberation being preferred
[17:24] <camelreef> oh well, be happy until automatix breaks your system, then
[17:24] <PatrikH> I dont use automatix
[17:24] <camelreef> ok
[17:24] <jduggan> hey guys - my one frontend is running svn and since about 10days or so, svn has included the visual 'screen setup wizard' - my other frontend/combined backend runnin mythbuntu is runnin trunk builds and today it's update yet still no 'screen setup wizard'
[17:24] <PatrikH> Borrowed their repo to get the font and then removed them
[17:24] <jduggan> has it been disabled?
[17:25] <camelreef> ok
[17:34] <nettow0822_> will I need to upgrade my other myth boxes to .21 from .20?
[18:39] <mkargar_> hello
[18:39] <mkargar_> i have one problemwith mythtv in kubuntu!
[18:40] <mkargar_> I installed mythtv!my problem is MySQL!mysql not connect to localhost!
[18:41] <frank23> mkargar_: I have the exact same problem and have not been able to fix it
[18:41] <superm1> mkargar_, reconfigure mythtv-database
[18:42] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[18:42] <superm1> and if you put a root password in enter it there etc.
[18:45] <mkargar_> superm1:I testing it!
[18:45] <superm1> PatrikH, you there still?
[18:47] <nettow0822_>  I just upgraded to .21.....when I go to watch a recorded show....there is audio but no video
[18:47] <nettow0822_> it shows the video in the preview
[18:47] <nettow0822_> also live tv video is choppy
[18:47] <superm1> nettow0822_, check you playback method
[18:48] <superm1> the defaults changed in 0.21
[18:48] <nettow0822_> oh ok
[18:48] <superm1> might not work with the filesyour are trying to play
[18:48] <raceme> I read somewhere that there is a support for the MFP51 from Silverstone which is included in the Grandia GD01B-MXR case. Is it confirmed ? I would like to be sure before buying it... I think that Wy_ talked about that a while ago but i lost my bookmarks...
[18:49] <superm1> !logs | raceme
[18:49] <superm1> no ubotu still?
[18:49] <superm1> well you can download all the channel logs for this channel
[18:49] <superm1> and grep for conv with you and Wy_ :)
[18:49] <raceme> superm1: I missed something ?
[18:50] <superm1> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/
[18:50] <raceme> superm1: thanks for the url
[18:53] <raceme> superm1: in fact the conv was not between Wy_ and me, it was with other people... and I did not remember when it was... so I ask there is somebody else owns that VFD
[18:58] <frank23> what is the user
[18:58] <superm1> root typically
[18:58] <superm1> and no password unless you set one
[18:58] <frank23> what is the user/password of the mysql administrator
[18:59] <frank23> it's not working
[18:59] <frank23> I tried user:root and no password
[19:01] <frank23> it's not mythtv and that randomly generated password right?
[19:02] <frank23> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5489/
[19:03] <superm1> frank23, well maybe the easiest way to resolve it then is to set a root password for the mysql root user
[19:03] <superm1> i think you hit a rather rare bug
[19:03] <superm1> where if you try to enter a password "once" then it stores that password and tries it every time
[19:04] <frank23> well it's the same issue as the other one  here earlier
[19:04] <frank23> superm1: how do I set a root password?
[19:05] <frank23> oh... I did try my user (frank) password the first time I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[19:05] <superm1> that's why
[19:05] <superm1> okay so frank23 to set a root password
[19:06] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[19:06] <superm1> i want to say
[19:06] <superm1> it might be
[19:06] <superm1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[19:06] <superm1> though
[19:06] <rhpot1991> I vote the later
[19:07] <nettow0822_> superm1....i generated a channels.conf file and all the channels work using xine but 2 of the channels are not recognized when I import the channels.conf into myth
[19:07] <superm1> well i'm not sure what to tell you :)
[19:07] <nettow0822_> crap
[19:07] <nettow0822_> it worked before I reload gusty
[19:11] <nettow0822_> thanks for your help
[19:13] <frank23> superm1: it worked. so where exactly is the bug I ran in? mysql-server?
[19:13] <superm1> frank23, well mythtv-database
[19:13] <frank23> superm1: oh
[19:13] <superm1> it is an underlying problem with the implementation of the postinst scripts
[19:13] <superm1> that if you go outside the standard procedure and enter the wrong things
[19:13] <superm1> stuff goes wacky.
[19:14] <camelreef> superm1, do you deal with the lcdproc packaging ?
[19:14] <frank23> superm1: Is that mythbuntu specific?
[19:14] <superm1> camelreef, i haven't dealt with it in the past
[19:14] <superm1> it is a motu package though so i could touch it if you have a patch or something though
[19:14] <camelreef> superm1, I have this bug that needs attention from someone in the know
[19:14] <superm1> frank23, its going to happen on debian and ubuntu and mythbuntu
[19:14] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lcdproc/+bug/187605
[19:15] <frank23> superm1: I see
[19:15] <jduggan> so does anyone have any clue why the 'screen setup wizard' isnt in the latest trunk build?
[19:16] <camelreef> I have lcdproc from Feisty atm, held
[19:16] <camelreef> I'd rather not carry that to Hardy if possible
[19:17] <superm1> jduggan, oh i know why it isn't on gutsy.
[19:17] <superm1> but fixing it for gutsy may be troublesome.
[19:17] <superm1> its because of MCC.
[19:17] <superm1> hm
[19:17] <camelreef> jduggan, I remember seeing it on one of my machines, gutsy
[19:18] <superm1> we cant backport all of MCC to gutsy
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[19:18] <superm1> it wont work on gutsy
[19:18] <superm1> but the fix for it is in hardy's MCC
[19:18] <jduggan> camelreef: i dont follow ubuntu releases since i dont use it, which vesion is gutsy
[19:19] <camelreef> jduggan, the current stable release
[19:19] <jduggan> ah
[19:19] <camelreef> hardy is the next
[19:19] <jduggan> is there a clean way to upgrade?
[19:19] <camelreef> jduggan, from what to what ?
[19:19] <jduggan> gutsy to hardy?
[19:19] <camelreef> if you are on Ubuntu, yes, there is that great package management system and policies
[19:19] <camelreef> why do you want hardy ?
[19:20] <superm1> camelreef, don't discourage people..... :P  we need people to keep submitting bugs they find in hardy
[19:20] <superm1> jduggan, yeah the standard Ubuntu update procedures work
[19:20] <superm1> jduggan, sudo update-manager -d
[19:20] <camelreef> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[19:20] <superm1> yeah
[19:21] <jduggan> i want the screen setup wizard - my mythbuntu is a combined back/frontend and i cant get the overscan reduced for the mythfrontend - i noticed on my other frontend debian/sid running svn it has this new wizard which looks useful
[19:21] <camelreef> let atural selection do its work, huh ? (no insult intended)
[19:21] <superm1> jduggan, well here's the easiest way to get the wizard without upgrading...
[19:22] <jduggan> superm1: ok
[19:22] <superm1> jduggan, copy /usr/share/mythtv/main_settings.xml.diverted to /usr/share/mythtv/main_settings.xml
[19:22] <superm1> and you will have the wizard
[19:22] <camelreef> superm1, why do I have that wizard on one of my machine?
[19:23] <camelreef> (gutsy with PPA)
[19:23] <camelreef> plain FE
[19:23] <superm1> camelreef, because you dont have the gutsy mcc installed on that machine
[19:23] <camelreef> true
[19:24] <camelreef> OK
[19:24]  * camelreef likes to understand
[19:28] <camelreef> hoh, possible new bug
[19:28] <camelreef> Mythweb, video part
[19:29] <camelreef> http://favia/mythweb/video
[19:29] <camelreef> Error
[19:29] <camelreef> Could not create a symlink to /srv/mythtv/videos, the local MythVideo directory for this hostname (favia). Please create a symlink to your MythVideo directory at data/video in order to use the video portions of MythWeb.
[19:29] <superm1> symlinks not put in the right place i'd guess
[19:29] <superm1> i'm not sure if that's present on fresh installs
[19:29] <superm1> would need to check
[19:29] <camelreef> where would that symlink be ?
[19:29] <frank23> I just noticed mythtv is in multiverse. I wonder why
[19:29] <superm1> frank23, liblame
[19:29] <superm1> frank23, and it's integrated ffmpeg
[19:30] <rhpot1991> camelreef: should point wherever your videos are
[19:30] <pancho>  can one watch tv over the internet without the tuner card?
[19:30] <frank23> superm1: ok thanks
[19:30] <camelreef> got it
[19:30] <frank23> pancho: you can use mythvideo to watch videos you've downloaded
[19:31] <camelreef> probably because I am not using the std directory
[19:31] <pancho> how would i download them though?
[19:31] <pancho> frank23
[19:32] <rhpot1991> camelreef: I've had to adjust some of mine at points, I have moved things around mid install though
[19:33] <tehpunkprodigy> does anybody know what would cause a remote mythfrontend box to display TV in black and white
[19:36] <raceme> tehpunkprodigy: a wrong setting tv format setting ? PAL, SECAM ?
[19:36] <tehpunkprodigy> I don't think so
[19:36] <tehpunkprodigy> It was working fine last night
[19:37] <tehpunkprodigy> I haven't changed anything
[19:43] <camelreef> ooooh, nice video section in mythweb :o)
[19:45] <camelreef> this is a niiiice release
[19:47] <frank23> what is the ivtv tweak and the RTC tweak?
[19:53] <superm1> frank23, if there is no description/mouse over that's a bug...
[19:53] <superm1> please file it to have one added
[19:54] <frank23> superm1: there is no description. It shouldn't matter that I'm running kubuntu, right? I can file the bug
[19:55] <superm1> no shouldn't matter
[19:55] <superm1> please do
[20:06] <frank23> superm1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre/+bug/200317
[20:06] <superm1> thanks
[20:10] <camelreef> mario, you rock
[20:12] <camelreef> thanks for the lcdproc bug
[20:12] <pancho>  can one watch tv over the internet without the tuner card?
[20:14] <superm1> camelreef, hopefully that works for you.
[20:14] <camelreef> superm1, I'll try the new lcdproc package when it comes tomorrow, I hope that it does not have too many weird dependencies and that I can install a plain binary, otherwise I'll backport it
[20:14] <superm1> if you've got any other bugs with patches available that you want to see in hardy
[20:14] <superm1> let me know
[20:15] <camelreef> I will, trust me
[20:15] <superm1> the sooner the better too.  freezes come up really really quick, so it will be a mad rush soon
[20:20] <frank23> Last big problem I'm having is that none of the gui tools can setup dual displays. The one that worked best for me in gutsy was nvidia-settings. But x.org changed and none of them seem to work.
[20:20] <superm1> frank23, nvidia-settings is still in 8.04
[20:21] <frank23> should my current xorg.conf work?
[20:21] <frank23> yes but nvidia-settings just segfaults when I try to save the X confguration
[20:22] <superm1> frank23, that should be fixed in the latest version of nvidia-settings....
[20:22] <PatrikH> Running with sudo ?
[20:22] <superm1> are you sure you are up todate?
[20:22] <superm1> yeah and run with sudo if you're not..
[20:23] <PatrikH> Mine did the same when i wasn´t
[20:26] <frank23> I'm up to date, run sudo nvidia-settings. Try to setup a separate screen for my TV on the right of the LCD and it segfaults when I click 'Save to X Configuration File'
[20:27] <superm1> frank23, do you have nvidia-settings from nvidia-glx-* or from the nvidia-settings source package?
[20:30] <frank23> superm1: it's from the nvidia-settings package
[20:31] <superm1> frank23, well that's not good.  the new version uploaded a day or two ago was supposed to fix that stuff..
[20:31] <frank23> superm1: I got it working. It probably didn't like my xorg.conf
[20:32] <frank23> I ran nvidia-xconfig which generated a new xorg.conf then nvidia-settings could save the changes
[20:47] <frank23> not a big deal but in gutsy I run  DISPLAY=:0.1  then mythfrontend and mythfrontend ran at 800x600 to fit in the tv. now I have to specify mythfrontend --geometry 800x600 to get it to draw at the correct resolution. I wonder what changed
[20:47] <henrik__> Hello! I got a bit of an annoying problem, after last weekly and the last update to 0.21 I have been experiencing an error message at startup, it says "Myth photo failed to mount /dev/sde using the default directory" Well I don't have a /dev/sde and I never specified it anywhere that I wanted to use this point. Looking in settings/Media/photo it states the right directory /var/lib/mythtv/photos.
[20:51] <superm1> frink_, xinerama isn't around anymore in the new xorg i think
[21:45] <degreseven> Hello, i just installed mythbuntu & had everything working great. I updated everything through the update manager, and now I can't get mythfrontend to pop up. The process is running, but the window never pops up. When I run it from a terminal it just hangs after making the db connection
[22:05] <henrik__> degreseven, what does /var/log/mythfrontend.log show?
[22:05] <degreseven> just "starting mythfrontend.real.."
[22:07] <henrik__> so your not getting any error messages?
[22:07] <degreseven> no, nothing
[22:07] <henrik__> can you start it manually as root?
[22:07] <degreseven> havent tried as root, let me check
[22:08] <henrik__> please kill the sessions you already have with mythfrontend.
[22:09] <degreseven> yeah i did. The same thing happens when I run it as root. It just hangs after the line "New DB connection, total: 1"
[22:10] <degreseven> could it be a problem with a setting or something in the db?
[22:11] <henrik__> hmmm, it should have nothing to do with the backend, but it could very well be some corruption in the sql db.
[22:12] <henrik__> you can start frontend without even having the backend started
[22:12] <degreseven> oh right
[22:13] <henrik__> but then, you should atleast get some type of error information.
[22:13] <degreseven> yeah
[22:13] <henrik__> I would recomend starting a thread in the forum.
[22:13] <degreseven> ok, thanks
[22:14] <henrik__> np sorry I couldnt be of more help...superm1 doesent seem to be here now, he could problebly point you in the right direction but he will se your post.
[22:33] <alexvd> hi trying to share my video directory to another slave frontend and other frontends
[22:33] <alexvd> I think I am doing it wrong
[22:33] <alexvd> Anyone willing to help?
[22:33] <alexvd> Isnt the videos directory already shared
[22:38] <MnDBnDr> superm1, are you here?
[22:53] <MnDBnDr> superm1, did you post a while back on the nvnews forum that you have a Samsung slimfit TV?
[22:58] <myth-newb> Question:- is the x1250 ati card not supported or just too weedy for my mythtv frontend
[23:00] <MnDBnDr> the last ati card I used was a x1650 pro
[23:00] <MnDBnDr> I had no problems with it.
[23:01] <MnDBnDr> myth likes nvidia cards though
[23:03] <myth-newb> So i gather
[23:04] <myth-newb> When i was looking i was having trouble finding a matx am2 board with both hdmi and spdif and an nvidia card in my price range
[23:05] <myth-newb> On a completely seperate issue. Are you aware of the troubles with the oem imon built into the antec fusion case and mythtv
[23:05] <myth-newb> ?
[23:06] <jarle> seems like seeking back and forth in a recording has stopped working in the latest build(!) Not sure if its a general myth bug or a bug only in Mythbuntu?
[23:11] <MnDBnDr> I have the imon pad in my silverstone case
[23:12] <myth-newb> ahh
[23:12] <myth-newb> lucky you
[23:12] <myth-newb> the silverstone is unmodified
[23:12] <MnDBnDr> I think the remote is the same
[23:12] <MnDBnDr> yeah
[23:12] <myth-newb> Its the VFD i am having problesm with
[23:12] <myth-newb> I followed a how to on the codeka blog
[23:13] <myth-newb> patched the imon vfd driver
[23:13] <MnDBnDr> I am not sure if the vfd is the same or not.
[23:13] <myth-newb> Now it displays the time in standby
[23:13] <myth-newb> and if I type LCDd
[23:13] <MnDBnDr> Then you have the server running
[23:13] <myth-newb> my vfd displays "lcdproc server"
[23:13] <MnDBnDr> ok
[23:13] <myth-newb> until i type sudo killall LCDd
[23:13] <MnDBnDr> that is good
[23:14] <myth-newb> but nothing from myth or anywhere else
[23:14] <MnDBnDr> do you have lcd enabled in myth?
[23:14] <myth-newb> yes
[23:14] <myth-newb> the only things i changed in the config files is
[23:15] <myth-newb> pointed driver to imon and the right patch
[23:15] <myth-newb> sorry path
[23:15] <myth-newb> and contrast=200
[23:15] <myth-newb> otherwise all i get is very birght lights
[23:16] <myth-newb> After much scary compiling at what not i jumped for joy when i got it to show "lcdproc server" but now i am stumped
[23:16] <MnDBnDr> did you set it to load at startup?
[23:16] <myth-newb> urm
[23:16] <myth-newb> i doubt it
[23:16] <MnDBnDr> ex. update-rc.d LCDd defaults
[23:17] <myth-newb> i am not at my mythbox at the mo
[23:17] <myth-newb> is that a command i should run?
[23:17] <MnDBnDr> i would check the myth wiki if you haven't already.
[23:17] <myth-newb> I did have a quick scan
[23:31] <mkargar_> superm1:very vry THX for guided me!
[23:32] <mkargar_> i running MythTV witout problem!:)
[23:34] <mkargar_> i have another problem!how to setting DVB card in Mythtv?
[23:44] <mkargar_> how to setting DVB card in Mythtv
[23:45] <MnDBnDr> DVB-T, -C, or -S
[23:47] <npurciful> hum i got a pcHDTV card and it has dual tuners ATSC/NTSC and your supposed to set it up as dvb card but i am no getting options to setup Analog
[23:48] <npurciful> the Analog Options button isnt there
[23:48] <MnDBnDr> hmmm.  I have a Avermedia MCE-A180.
[23:48] <MnDBnDr> It is setup as a dvb card out of the box
[23:49] <mkargar_> MnDBnDR:DVB-S!I have SkyStar 2 !
[23:50] <MnDBnDr> mkargar_ I sent you a PM.
[23:51] <mkargar_> ok MnDBnDR!
[23:51] <mkargar_> I sending reply for you!
[23:53] <nettow0822> npurciful http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PcHDTV_HD-5500