[00:09] what can i do to make the channel change faster? ~10 sec is annoying ;) [00:11] will 8.04 be 0.21 based? [00:15] Hi all, anybody know the pctv 310i tv tuner with "remote controller" ? I cannot get any key pressed event ! [00:29] is it better to use reiserfs than ext3? [01:32] hello? [01:36] was 8.04 planning on / tracking the mythTV .21 release? [01:42] hardy: 0.21.0~fixes16338-0ubuntu3: all [01:42] guess so [02:11] hi, I have Kubuntu 7.10 and I had a setup with my media pc hooked up to my amp with the coax output of my CM8738 soundcard, everything was working with AC3 and DTS passthrough, now after I did aptitude upgrade last week, it doesn't work except for DTS tracks at all anymore, either it's silent or its downsampled to Dolby Digital on the coax output, any ideas to fix it back to where it was? [02:13] the DTS is the only thing that still works [02:49] hello anyone know of a gui for configuring a remote / lirc.conf [02:56] KillerKiwi2005, unfortunately not you have to do it by hand :( [02:57] that sucks..... i want repeat for volume up / down and fast froward rewind... i was hoping it wasn't going to be a hit and miss trial [02:57] KillerKiwi2005,if the remote is already working you should have a lirc.conf that you can edit to accomplish that [02:57] but yeah, it sucks a bit that it's not gui'ed [02:58] yeah it works standard msc usb [02:58] you're lucky, I had to compile 3-4 different kernels before I got my remote to work (it's from a hauppauge tv card) [02:58] yeah the usb seems to be the best bet [02:59] I've never had to touch a kernel for a haupauge htough.... just firmware [02:59] for the remote I needed a lirc module that wouldn't build with the standard kernel [03:00] I'm not sure if I was just unlucky [03:01] it's one of the less common dvb cards so maybe that's why [03:02] anyway, now I have a dual tuner DVB card in my server so I don't need the tuner functionality in my frontend PC, only use it for the remote. I would like a better interface but I don't really fancy buying anything new when I already have 3 remote control units for hauppauge :) [03:04] 2 true... i have 3 of them lying around [03:04] the blaster for the usb works well which is an added bonus [03:04] do your hauppauge remotes work with tat? [03:05] s/tat/that/ [03:05] ? [03:05] does the hauppauge remote work with the usb blaster/receiver? [03:06] yes [03:06] ah [03:06] maybe I should get one then [03:06] mine have the PCI cards with the phono socket receiver [03:06] Got a haupauge 150 wocked up to a sky box... it uses the blaster to change the channel [03:06] i just updated, now none of the modules work, any ideas how or where to start to fix it? [03:06] Egghead3, join the club ;) [03:07] ahh so common error with new updates? [03:07] mythtv rule #1... if it works DO NOT UPGRADE lol [03:07] I think you just need to update a couple of times and then restart both frontend and backend [03:07] worked for me except for my weird audio problem, which they say is not mythtv but something else [03:08] cool, i didnt try restarting frontends :) [03:08] and yea, i have to start obaying rule #1 [03:09] universal rule #1 if its working, mess around with things till you break it, especially at 2am [03:09] * KillerKiwi2005 ...wondars how hard a small pygtk would be for lircrc.conf [03:09] th1, i get a wierd audio error in mythfrontend log somthing about cant find audio, skipping.... [03:09] rhpot1991: then the misses gets mad cause the box broke [03:09] rhpot, oh then i have been doing rule #1 right, lmao [03:09] the box she didnt think we needed in the first place ;) [03:09] I've had a few examples where my wife's soap opera hasn't recorded the next day cause I broke something the night before [03:10] I like to break my router in the wii hours of the morning [03:10] like locking out all your macs instead of allowing them :) [03:10] stupid toggle button [03:10] well I run openwrt, so it normally involves making the router completely unusable [03:10] Egghead3, it's nothing like my problem I think [03:14] i dont like to mess with the firmware... i have good fear of a bricked router [03:15] well it depends how much of a flash friendly router you have [03:17] I also specifically bought both of these for this purpose so newegg would have been taking them back if I screwed up [03:18] linksys WRT54G [03:18] depending on the version it could run other firmwares [03:18] I bought some asus wl500gP's [03:18] love them [03:19] theres a bug in its dyndnd.... it never refreshs properly really anoying [03:19] strange, works fine for me [03:19] dyndns you mean right? [03:19] yes [03:20] its the router its self... it works if i can in and reset it but it drops after a while [03:22] hmmm mythbuntu-lircrc-generator can set the delay / repeat [03:23] it really needs a ui is all [03:24] KillerKiwi2005, we're looking for someone with some time to author one if you'd like to take that up :) [03:24] .... might do it ..... it would be a nice to have... lirc requires vodo magic at the moment... [03:26] th1, rebooted frontend, and updated backend again, worked great, thanks [03:27] np :) [04:27] is the internal player a program i can run from desktop or command line? [04:27] mythtv $FILE [04:27] should do it [04:28] cool thanks :) === nico_ is now known as camelreef [06:42] Good morning from Scotland [06:43] wooot, .21 ! === Cackette` is now known as Cackette [07:07] Hi! Is therer any checks that trunk is built correctly? [07:08] meaning, is the trunk repository checked after building it? [07:15] HeMan, I'm not involved with that at all, and can;t provide an answer, but what do you mean by "checked"? [07:20] and from what I have read, trunk at this time only has the .21 that got released [07:20] and is not moving much [07:26] until 0.21 gets into the official backports, then -trunk will resume tracking the trunk stuff [07:26] so I dare hope that today -trunk works quite nicely [07:34] well i sure hope it works right [07:34] i've got no way to test it... [07:34] no gutsy boxes here. [07:37] I haven't noticed anything wrong with my trunk builds, got a specific problem? [07:37] HeMan, is something wrong with them? [07:41] superm1, thanks for the answer on the mythtv users list [07:41] <- Nico [07:42] oh hi :) [07:42] hello :) [07:42] I should just as well as here too [07:42] are there changes regarding utf8 with 0.21 ? [07:43] nothing that we have directly changed in the packaging [07:43] i can't speak for upstream though [07:43] my tables are all using latin1_swedish for whatever reason, and that's medding my French stuff [07:43] messing [07:43] ok [07:43] I'll ask on list on a separate thread [07:43] superm1: it says it's the wrong version on libmyth [07:44] i just tried to purge libmyth and installing it again to see if that solves the problem [07:44] I've seen a wiki page about utf8, but I'd rather not play with the DB manually if I can avoid it [07:45] HeMan, can you elaborate? [07:45] on a plugin? [07:45] or on which? [07:45] or on package installation? [07:46] on all plugins [07:46] can you pastebin dpkg -l | grep myth? [07:46] but it could be that i get some packages from gutsy-backports [07:47] is there any way to see from which repository i get a package? [07:47] HeMan, if you show me that dpkg -l output [07:47] i can telll you where they are coming from [07:47] but also [07:47] you can look at that via apt-cache policy PACKAGE [07:49] superm1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5462/ [07:49] HeMan, you have old plugins packages installed [07:50] update your apt lists again [07:50] just did [07:50] what mirror are you on? [07:50] uk [07:50] yeah uk is slower at updating [07:51] it only syncs from the builder two times a day or so [07:51] us updates every 4 hours [07:51] you can either switch to US, wait it out, or grab the binaries here for now https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk/+archive [07:51] i'll try the us repo [07:52] * superm1 pings Daviey [07:52] it's somewhat of a chrisis here, my son want's to see his movie... [07:52] Daviey, can you check UK repo and see if maybe you can manually sync it? [07:52] HeMan, just grab the mythvideo deb then if you need [07:52] its on that URL i gave you [07:53] already switched to the us mirror and updated [07:54] i'll switch back now [07:55] we really love the bookmark-in-a-movie feature! [07:56] ooh i didn't even know that was in [07:56] nice [07:56] now we don't need to see the same part of the movie everyday... [07:57] btw, will the "regular" weekly builds switch to 0.21? [07:57] and will 8.04 be 0.21-based? [07:58] 8.04 has 0.21 already [07:58] the regular weekly builds will be 0.21-fixes when hardy opens [07:59] HeMan, see this url http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/321398#321398 [07:59] for details [07:59] that's the plan for now [07:59] HeMan: should be done now === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: MythTV 0.21 is released. Please see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/321398#321398 for information on switching to it :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com :: See http://www.mythbuntu.org/support for support information. [08:01] has anyone tried to use pulseaudio over network? [08:01] it's on my todo list at least [08:01] but not yet :) [08:03] i'm having a hard time to _not_ upgrade to hardy before it's released... [08:04] yeah i'm glad all my machines are hardy now [08:04] especially since there is still time to fix bugs that i catch [08:04] * camelreef is ready to hit the PPA and not wait for the backport, backups done.... [08:04] talk me out of it ! [08:04] i really hope that lots of people upgrade early and catch bugs [08:05] like now would be *great* [08:05] i'm running hardy on my laptop and think it works good, but the htpc is more mission critical... [08:05] you are not talking me out of it ;o) [08:05] yeah well i'm not going to talk anyone out of it that wants to right now :) [08:06] camelreef: do it! :) [08:10] does mythtv work as a upnp-"renderer" in 0.21? [08:11] unfortunately not still [08:11] you mean client by renderer i take it [08:11] it will serve [08:11] but thats it [08:11] oki [08:12] OK, DB has been dumped, /etc/mythtv, /etc/lirc, /etc/LCDd, /home/mythfront/.lircrc and /home/mythfront/.mythtv backed up [08:12] anything else I should keep just in case ? [08:12] you're being a lot safer than i would have been already :) [08:12] or i should say than i was.. [08:12] I have a prod system here [08:12] yeah so did I. I needed some way to test builds though :) [08:12] I value my life [08:13] haha [08:13] how is the auto discovery of backends and frontends done? [08:13] avahi? [08:13] upnp [08:13] let me make a pot of caffeine, and I'll use the PPA [08:14] wah? i have allmost 900 gb of data on my mythbox now! [08:14] i really have to do some cleaning... [08:17] ah, let's enable projectm [08:20] aptitude update... [08:21] aptitude dist-upgrade [08:21] 19 packages upgraded, 23 newly installed, 3 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [08:21] ddue dont use aptitude [08:21] you pull more stuff than you need usually [08:21] huh ? [08:22] it pulls recommends by default [08:22] apt-get doesnt [08:22] I know, but it's been behaving OK lately [08:22] ah, yes, indeed [08:23] apt-get : 19 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [08:23] see :) [08:23] I'll remove mythdvd manually, then [08:24] but aptitude gets the recommended stuff, which I like, I get less surprises when a weird function doesn't work because an optional lib is not there [08:24] well up to you :) [08:24] downloading [08:28] * camelreef try to contains his grin [08:28] -s [08:29] * camelreef ties to remain calm and not worry too much, apt is good, and the packages' creator know what they are doing [08:32] superm1: please tell me why I have had a perfect working system for a few days and now after the latest updates cannot schedule shows anymore? [08:33] no i can't [08:33] download done, here we go, upgrading [08:34] superm1, ah, one issue [08:35] mythtv-database expects that the root user for mysql to have an empty password [08:35] camelreef, that's normal [08:35] reconfigure mythtv-database [08:35] and it will ask you for it [08:35] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [08:36] I know, just a heads up [08:36] that way covers the "common" case of no root password [08:36] thanks [08:36] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mythweather_0.21.0-0ubuntu0mythbuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): [08:36] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/default-wide/mw-background.png', which is also in package mythtv-common [08:36] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [08:36] superm1: do ya think daily defrag of xfs could be causing problems?/ [08:36] DiggThis, usually that solves them.... [08:36] camelreef, now that can be a problem there... [08:36] that's a rather odd errror. [08:36] can you please file a bug with that output? [08:37] er all of your terminal output [08:37] leading up to that rather [08:37] K [08:37] bug url ? [08:37] bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu [08:37] that will do [08:38] camelreef, for now, remove mythweather, and reinstall it after the rest of the upgrade finishes [08:38] superm1: do u have a recommendation? [08:38] superm1, OK [08:38] DiggThis, other than checking SQL tables for inconsistencies, no not really [08:38] i dont even have sql turned on though [08:39] DiggThis, you still have it runnign locally [08:39] DiggThis, run an optimize/repair command on the tables [08:39] there is support in MCC to do it [08:39] or phpmyadmin [08:40] or newer versions of mythweb [08:40] alreadyt done and not working. is there any way i can uninstall the latest updates? [08:40] DiggThis, i highly doubt it's caused by the latest updates - other people would have been complaining about similar problems [08:41] DiggThis, and did you look at mythbackend's logs in verbose? [08:41] turning them more verbose can show you why the scheduler is having troubles [08:41] DiggThis, to do verbose mode edit /etc/default/mythtv-backend [08:42] over my head sorry superm1 just seems weird maybe xfs is the problem, u think? what do u run for your video partition? [08:42] xfs. [08:42] DiggThis, well do this [08:42] only happened today which is weird was working fine till then and now my tuner does not even work for live tv [08:42] edit that file [08:43] dude that means broken tables [08:43] the mcc optimizer must not have been able to fix them [08:43] all of these signs point to that [08:43] install phpmyadmin [08:43] and do it from there [08:43] !bug 200084 [08:43] k then thx please explain not sure how to on windows with other pc [08:44] thanks camelreef. i'll see if i can't get that sorted out before the official backport goes through... [08:44] DiggThis, apt-get install phpmyadmin [08:44] then visit http://IPADDRESS/phpmyadmin [08:44] where IPADDRESS is your address [08:45] do u think it could have been defrag that did it? [08:45] no i dont [08:45] bad shutdown [08:45] or power outage [08:45] or something like that maybe [08:45] but usually a defrag doesn't cause problems [08:46] yes thats it!!! power went out yesterday... [08:46] okay there you go. [08:46] so once you get phpmyadmin installed, you'll be able to 'repair' all of your tables [08:46] and reboot [08:46] and things should be better [08:46] k ill install it now and by the way do u think i should leave on enable daily mythtv repair? [08:47] well it clearly isn't working, so i dont think so [08:47] superm1, funny, mythweather was not installed at all in fact, a plain install just worked [08:47] what do u use as ur root file system? [08:47] ext3 [08:47] camelreef, interesting [08:47] k awesome installing the app now [08:47] DiggThis, i need to go to bed though. [08:48] k [08:48] camelreef, could you walk DiggThis through repairing his tables? [08:48] in phpmyadmin? [08:48] if u could that be awesome man [08:49] DiggThis, if not and no one else is in here that would be able to, you can ask nicely in #mythtv-users if someone could help you do it [08:49] k [08:49] thx legend [08:49] superm1, hmmmm, I did not follow the conversation [08:49] lemme see [08:49] camelreef, he needs to repair some tables in phpmyadmin [08:49] just need to walk him through how to do so [08:49] OK [08:49] okay folks. best of luck [08:49] night [08:50] night [08:50] DiggThis, [08:50] thx superm1 and camelreef [08:50] DiggThis, you got a terminal access to your myth bxackend? [08:50] could do [08:50] open a terminal session [08:50] to it [08:51] tell me when you are done [08:51] k [08:51] type [08:51] im in [08:51] mysqlcheck -uroot mythconverg [08:52] tell me if there is any table that is not OK [08:52] all good [08:52] ah [08:52] then you DB is fine [08:52] let me read back [08:53] k [08:53] what your problem may be [08:53] something to do with power outage [08:54] all the mythconverg tables are OK, are you sure ? [08:55] yes [08:55] what about trying the php thing? [08:56] it would do the same [08:57] anyway to reset the tables? [08:57] or create new ones [08:58] hold on [09:02] ok, run: [09:02] perl /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/optimize_mythdb.pl [09:03] k [09:03] using your frontend user [09:04] done [09:06] what now? restart or something? [09:08] yup [09:08] DiggThis, I'm sorry, but I cannot help much beyond this [09:09] I'm not a guru or anything [09:09] no problem ill try it you have helped me heaps mate [09:09] thankyou [09:09] but a mythbuntu install make daily backups of the DB that can be found in /var/backups [09:10] how would i do it? can it be done automatically? [09:10] well, weekly backups [09:10] not automatically [09:10] you would be able to use phpmyadmin [09:11] dont know about that program [09:11] *if* this is DB-related [09:11] sorry, cannot do more [09:11] gotta go [09:11] k [09:11] done [10:25] mythbuntu lcd issue. I have patched the drivers and now it displays the time and will display lcdproc server if i type LCDd -f -r 4 but that is it [11:04] .21 final in weekly trunk now? [11:19] missing many themes with .21 from the trunk.. [12:00] good morning [12:01] where i find a changelog for the 8.04 updates from today ? [12:36] Anyone here been using 0.21 trunk and switched to 0.21 stable ? [12:41] if you mean an 8.04 user who just updated, .. i am .. but now mythweb won't run anymore [12:43] PatrikH: yes.. (jag har hehe) [12:45] .21 stable seems to be in the trunk repo now.. [12:48] Nikas: Ok, how did you go about doing it ? I´m using Ubuntu 7.10 (Är det ok att köra PM?) [12:48] PatrikH: It's in trunk now. Just did apt-get update/upgrade :) [12:49] PM är ok [12:49] (PM is ok) :) [12:49] Gah, need to register, you reged ? [12:49] any1 else having datase connection truble with mythweb after update ? [12:49] PatrikH: yep ;) [12:50] pls msg me ;) [12:55] Ok, so that was a dead end, maybe should refrase the Q: Anyone gone from using "svn" 0.21 trunk("svn") to 0.21 stable ? ("svn" or apt-get) [13:24] can any1 help me please, i am out of ideas ;) i updated to the 21 fixes and now mythweb can'T get access to db anymore [13:35] Anyone know if it´s possible to use the mythbuntu weekly builds on "normal" Ubuntu ? [13:58] nobody ? :( [15:18] Is anyone runing Myth on OSX? [15:26] may be not in this channel... [15:26] but you may want to look at... [15:26] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_on_Mac_OS_X === nico_ is now known as camelreef [15:29] afternoon [15:30] superm1, ? [15:31] OK, who here is using xvmv and opengl with nvidia and 0.21 ? [15:32] camelreef: you can't do that with the hardy builds. unless you're referring to opengl vsync [15:32] hi laga [15:32] hi :) [15:32] I'm using the gutsy backport [15:33] from the PPA [15:33] and please explain [15:33] i'm not sure if it's enabled there... it'll most likely be automatically disabled with the next upload because the xvmc-opengl renderer is highly experimental, unstable and whatnot [15:34] ah [15:34] hmm, i can´t install 0.21 from mythbuntu auto-builds on normal ubuntu. Missing the following: ttf-liberation. Can´t seem to fins a rep that has it. [15:34] the mythtv developers don't even recommend the normal opengl renderers, although they're enabled in the ubuntu builds [15:35] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5474/ [15:35] laga, OK, then [15:35] camelreef: please disable xvmc-opengl in your playback profile and check if it persists [15:36] as you can see in the logs, xvmc-opengl is not available [15:36] is it selectable?! [15:36] laga, using the "high quality" profile works [15:36] cool [15:36] it is selectable [15:37] I was just trying oprion that could give me xvmc and color OSD ;o) [15:37] and no OSD flicker [15:37] yadif and greedyh, maybe their 2x variants? although they use lots of CPU [15:37] ah [15:38] no, you can't use them with XvMC, sorry [15:38] nevermind [15:38] I'm trying out the new version, it's cool to have it on day 1 of the release [15:38] I've already opened a bug on the upgrade [15:38] cool [15:38] it'll be fixed soon i hope :) [15:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200084 [15:39] the UI apparently freezes once in a while too [15:39] I'm trying to find consistency about this one, and some logs before opening a bug [15:39] camelreef: wow, xvmc-opengl is indeed selectable. how annoying. maybe you can raise a bug for that, too? [15:39] will do [15:42] * laga loves 0.21 so far. :) [15:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/200214 [15:42] done [15:42] thanks [15:42] 0.21 is way cool [15:43]