| PriceChild | Something ironic about that mneptok? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| Seeker` | morning | 00:13 |
| PriceChild | !test | 00:32 |
| ubotu | Failed. | 00:33 |
| nickrud | mneptok: you have a perverse sense of humor ;) | 00:34 |
| PriceChild | !test | 00:36 |
| ubotu | Failed. | 00:36 |
| PriceChild | @btlogin | 00:36 |
| PriceChild | I think its ready to go back in. | 00:36 |
| === crdlb_ is now known as crdlb | ||
| Seeker` | more problems with ubotu? | 00:53 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: did you unplug it? | 00:58 |
| Seeker` | not that I know of# | 00:58 |
| Seeker` | come to think of it, I dont know what all the plugs in my room are actually plugged in to | 00:58 |
| * Seeker` aspires to actually lose a computer one day - have it respond to ping etc., but not be able to work out where exactly it is | 00:59 | |
| Mez | Seeker`, i've done that | 01:16 |
| Mez | found it eventually though | 01:16 |
| Mez | but that was at my old workplace | 01:16 |
| Seeker` | Mez: Where was it? | 01:16 |
| Mez | where there were about 15 rooms it could have been in | 01:16 |
| Mez | It was eventually found in the boiler room (which is where the first internet connection was put in) | 01:17 |
| Seeker` | heh | 01:17 |
| Mez | I think it might have been put in there to keep the ISDN line as a backup net thing | 01:17 |
| Mez | was strange though - we hadnt used that room in over a year | 01:17 |
| Mez | hehe | 01:17 |
| Mez | i also now have to be careful i dont do the same with my eee | 01:18 |
| Mez | anyways, i've got a food delivery coming at 10am so I should head to bed. | 01:18 |
| Mez | Night all | 01:18 |
| Seeker` | nn | 01:18 |
| LjL | indygunfreak has been around so long and says such stupid things more often than not, that i get suspicious about him | 01:56 |
| Seeker` | isn't mark shuttleworth a cosmonaught? | 02:10 |
| nalioth | yes, he was | 02:11 |
| Seeker` | (instead of being an astronaught) | 02:11 |
| jdong | Seeker`: what's the difference? | 02:13 |
| jdong | AFAIK it's just russian vs American terminology, right? | 02:13 |
| Seeker` | I think one is being sent up by russians, the other by americans | 02:13 |
| jdong | same thing | 02:13 |
| jdong | they both do the same thing | 02:13 |
| Seeker` | yeah | 02:14 |
| Seeker` | but there is a difference :) | 02:15 |
| LjL | ubotu is muted in #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-kde4, unmute when it's working again, some of you should be able to make ubotwo part as well, i'm going to bed | 02:17 |
| Seeker` | whats wrong with it atm? | 02:17 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: you were saying? | 02:23 |
| PriceChild | LjL: grrr had to be muted again? I unmuted earlier as sit seemed fine | 02:27 |
| PriceChild | beds | 02:27 |
| Seeker` | nalioth: what is causing the problems with ubotu? | 02:37 |
| nalioth | Seeker`: i have no clue | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yeah | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | er, jussi01: yeah | 03:06 |
| Jucato | :P | 03:13 |
| PriceChild | I don't trust irssi's netsplit handling yet, tis weird. | 08:10 |
| Myrtti | I've trusted it until recently | 08:11 |
| Myrtti | and I've been using irssi since 2003 | 08:12 |
| Myrtti | no, 2002 | 08:12 |
| PriceChild | :P | 08:16 |
| Myrtti | no but really | 08:23 |
| Myrtti | I saw the weirdest crash on IRCnet couple of days ago | 08:23 |
| Myrtti | started out as a netsplit (or that what irssi thought it was) | 08:23 |
| Myrtti | and people ended up joining with their alt nicks, those with straight ip-addresses to connect to servers faster than those with FQDN:s | 08:24 |
| ompaul | !test | ompaul | 10:48 |
| Amaranth | wow, slow night | 11:12 |
| Amaranth | no one called for ops at all in the last 8 hours? | 11:12 |
| Seveaz | that's good :) | 11:13 |
| ompaul | Amaranth, the bot is so lagggggggggggggggggged | 11:13 |
| Amaranth | hrm, my connection is broken | 11:13 |
| ompaul | I did !test 20 mins ago | 11:14 |
| Seveaz | ompaul: I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker. Only https (hence mibbit) works | 11:15 |
| ompaul | Seveaz, np | 11:15 |
| Myrtti | hmmm | 11:17 |
| gary4gar | where is ubotu? | 11:24 |
| Myrtti | sick | 11:31 |
| Myrtti | hi fiosse, how can we help you today? | 11:31 |
| fiosse | hi Myrtti | 11:31 |
| fiosse | how to mask my id ? | 11:31 |
| fiosse | what the message it appear ? | 11:33 |
| gary4gar | fiosse, better Join #freenode & ask there | 11:33 |
| fiosse | thx gary4gar | 11:34 |
| Myrtti | gary4gar: anything else we can do? | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | ubotu's down? | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | hm, why is Seveaz connecting from there? | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | seems alive | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i'm delayed | 12:02 |
| jussi01 | Hobbsee: [03/09/08 13:12:53] < Seveaz> ompaul: I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker. Only https (hence mibbit) works | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | just use one of the replacement bots then | 12:02 |
| jussi01 | heh, ubotwo is in #k and #u but not here | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | ah yse | 12:03 |
| gary4gar | what about other channels? | 12:03 |
| jussi01 | gary4gar: /whois ubotwo | 12:04 |
| jussi01 | Hobbsee: I have ubot5 on standby if needed - just say the word | 12:05 |
| * Hobbsee has priceybot as well | 12:05 | |
| Hobbsee | gary4gar: where else did you want it? | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | +1, i guess | 12:06 |
| Seveaz | Hobbsee: I'm on mibbit, only https works for me | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | Seveaz: dodgy. any eta on fixing/ | 12:06 |
| gary4gar | Hobbsee, nothing, I am Leaving :) | 12:06 |
| Seveaz | hobbsee, depends on xs4all abuse desk | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 12:07 |
| Seveaz | (aka, could be wednesday, I'm off for three days starting tomorrow) | 12:07 |
| * Hobbsee wonders what xs4all is | 12:07 | |
| Seveaz | my isp | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | ... | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | strange guy. | 12:09 |
| Seveaz | woo, found a route | 12:09 |
| Seveaz | ubotu might be back soon | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | Seveaz: if it's going to be dead, tehn replace it with one of it's backups | 12:10 |
| Seveaz | can someone /whois ubotu and see if he's joining channels? | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | sure | 12:11 |
| Myrtti | hm, my whois is lagging | 12:11 |
| Seveaz | mibbit's /whois doesn't show channels | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | is slowly going, it appears | 12:12 |
| Seveaz | ah, he's joining | 12:12 |
| Myrtti | neither am I getting them | 12:12 |
| Seveaz | yeah, can take up to 15 minutes to get fully synced | 12:12 |
| Seveaz | so ubotu will be back soon, but no idea when exactly | 12:12 |
| Seveaz | !ops | I'm bacj! | 12:20 |
| Seveaz | back* | 12:20 |
| ubotu | I'm bacj!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! | 12:21 |
| ubotu | Seveaz called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (I'm bacj!) | 12:21 |
| * jussi01 hugs ubotu | 12:21 | |
| Hobbsee | oh goody | 12:21 |
| Amaranth | lag again? | 12:21 |
| * Amaranth hugs ubotu | 12:21 | |
| Amaranth | !ping | 12:21 |
| ubotu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 12:21 |
| jussi01 | Amaranth: thats only -offtopic isnt it? | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | !ding | 12:22 |
| ubotu | dong | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | ding dong, the witch is dead! | 12:22 |
| Seveaz | !jding | 12:22 |
| ubotu | jplease see above | 12:22 |
| Seveaz | lol :) | 12:22 |
| jussi01 | will i now kick ubotwo from #k? | 12:22 |
| Seveaz | not yet | 12:23 |
| jussi01 | k | 12:23 |
| Seveaz | !moo | 12:23 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 12:23 |
| Seveaz | yeah, it's quick enough | 12:23 |
| Seveaz | kick the -2 | 12:23 |
| jussi01 | done from #k | 12:24 |
| Seveaz | bbl | 12:27 |
| jussi01 | hmmm... | 12:39 |
| jussi01 | ubotu isnt working now in #k... | 12:40 |
| Seeker` | no response in -uk either - I sent a !ping about 3 mins ago | 12:45 |
| * jussi01 cries | 12:46 | |
| Myrtti | should someone do something about -i | 12:53 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu, icesword said: ubotu, who is ubotwo | 13:04 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, picard_pwns_kirk said: !ubotwo is ubotu's alter ego. | 13:04 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, icesword said: ubotu is good,ubotwo is bad | 13:04 |
| Seveaz | could someone unban mibbit from -offtopic for today? | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | should I keep my fingers off from what's going on at -irc | 13:14 |
| Myrtti | @btlogin | 13:17 |
| Seveaz | who's been messing with the ubotu? | 13:37 |
| Seveaz | !ops | 13:37 |
| Seveaz | offtopic people say things were added yesterday, who was poking at it? | 13:37 |
| Jack_Sparrow | THey were up and down all day yesterday | 13:38 |
| * Gary hurts Seveaz for highlighting one of his highlights | 13:38 | |
| Dave2 | Seveaz, can't you do it yourself? | 13:38 |
| Seveaz | Dave2: no, my connection is semi-dead, only https | 13:38 |
| Seveaz | I was at my mother inlaw before, where I could ssh | 13:38 |
| Dave2 | /cs invite #ubuntu-offtopic should let you in | 13:38 |
| Dave2 | I think that overrides bans, anyway. | 13:39 |
| Seveaz | I'm going to have to kill people | 13:39 |
| Seveaz | I'll be back on wednesday, until then: no ubotu | 13:40 |
| * jussi01 walks in from lunch... | 13:40 | |
| tonyyarusso | bah Jack_Sparrow, I was almost done typing... :P Thought it might be good to warn the guy that his question is against Freenode policies in addition to just #ubuntu's | 13:43 |
| PriceChild | why not just a +e on *!?=53a0071a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/* if he want to get in on mibbit? | 13:43 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Sorry | 13:44 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I am pretty sure he knew that | 13:44 |
| tonyyarusso | prolly | 13:45 |
| tonyyarusso | PriceChild: hrm? Identifying should be enough. | 13:45 |
| Myrtti | hrmmhhhmmm | 13:45 |
| Myrtti | is it really the factoid adding | 13:45 |
| PriceChild | tonyyarusso: so why was he asking for the ban removed? :/ | 13:46 |
| PriceChild | and yes that should be enough | 13:46 |
| PriceChild | factoid additions have done this?! | 13:46 |
| Dave2 | ah, yes, and being cloaked helps. | 13:46 |
| * Dave2 clearly isn't awake enough yet | 13:46 | |
| tonyyarusso | lol.... Clearly, me directing !pm | you means you should choose me to pm, right? | 13:50 |
| stdin | hmm, shouldn't ubotwo be in here | 13:57 |
| jussi01 | stdin: I was thinking the same thing | 13:58 |
| ubotu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! | 13:58 |
| ubotu | Seveaz called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () | 13:58 |
| stdin | wiw | 13:58 |
| stdin | *wow | 13:58 |
| tonyyarusso | what? | 13:59 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 13:59 |
| Myrtti | he LLLLLags | 13:59 |
| PriceChild | :D | 13:59 |
| tonyyarusso | by 20 minutes? for real? | 13:59 |
| jussi01 | yep | 13:59 |
| jussi01 | yay | 13:59 |
| stdin | who want's to un-mute ubotwo then | 13:59 |
| stdin | ooh, ubotu is coming back too | 14:00 |
| Myrtti | ubotu joined -irc | 14:00 |
| Dave2 | fail | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | doesnt mean that it will be responsive | 14:00 |
| stdin | let's see if it falls over | 14:00 |
| ompaul | !danger | jussi01 | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | just dont anybody use it for a while | 14:00 |
| ompaul | there ya go | 14:00 |
| ompaul | slow as whatever | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | let it recover and join channels | 14:01 |
| jussi01 | it takes about 15 min to join its 76 channels... | 14:01 |
| Myrtti | is it really the factoid adding that made him sluggish? | 14:02 |
| Myrtti | and should people in -ot be said not to harass him unnecessarily? | 14:02 |
| ubotu | jussi01: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! | 14:02 |
| Myrtti | I think I will | 14:03 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, ban him from -offtopic | 14:03 |
| jussi01 | yeah, restrict it to important channels | 14:03 |
| ompaul | but then we don't get to log who was banned | 14:03 |
| ompaul | hmmm | 14:03 |
| ompaul | then it is -ot does it matter | 14:03 |
| ompaul | arrr | 14:04 |
| Myrtti | decide please | 14:05 |
| Myrtti | or better yet | 14:05 |
| Myrtti | I'll take the responsibility | 14:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Myrtti: feel free to warn people about bot abuse - many don't realize that it adds significant strain. | 14:07 |
| Myrtti | should I remove the ubotu ban? | 14:08 |
| Myrtti | if we all play nicely, I could keep track of the bans for today atleast | 14:09 |
| tonyyarusso | eh, dunno. Maybe leave it at least until it's finished joining channels or whatever, then remove in a few minutes. | 14:09 |
| Myrtti | if there's any problem at ot and the bans because of this, I take full responsibility. You can all blame me, since I'm the bitch. | 14:10 |
| jussi01 | hmmm, we have a repeat in #k ... ubotu is laggy while ubotwo is quick. | 14:10 |
| * jussi01 hugggles Myrtti | 14:10 | |
| tonyyarusso | Myrtti: You'll just have to knit us all mittens. | 14:10 |
| jussi01 | thanks stdin, Wasnt really sure which one to go with. | 14:11 |
| stdin | I can tell ubotwo what to do, but I wouldn't be able to get ubotu to re-join if I removed it | 14:11 |
| PriceChild | don't kick ubotu, just mute | 14:11 |
| jussi01 | ok | 14:11 |
| PriceChild | btw... "I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker." - as in nasty person attacking him? | 14:12 |
| stdin | I think ubotu's catching up, lags going down to normal | 14:14 |
| tonyyarusso | Perhaps this is a little out there, but I'm inclined not to necessarily believe anything said, since not identified. At least with a grain of salt, perhaps. | 14:14 |
| PriceChild | ah yes... wasn't identified the first time, and ip was different | 14:15 |
| PriceChild | We'll find out when he gets back :) | 14:15 |
| ompaul | jussi01, we know and we know it was | 14:19 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: ? | 14:19 |
| ompaul | tonyyarusso, PriceChild ehh I had a word on the side with him - I trust the info given | 14:20 |
| ompaul | read not write | 14:21 |
| ompaul | heh | 14:21 |
| ompaul | LjL, can we have a backup bot please | 14:22 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: ubotwo is here | 14:22 |
| ompaul | !ahh | 14:22 |
| jussi01 | just needs unmuting. | 14:22 |
| ompaul | woops | 14:22 |
| ompaul | !danger | 14:22 |
| ompaul | okay I wonder just how much out of sync it is | 14:23 |
| ompaul | should be useful | 14:23 |
| jussi01 | hrm | 14:23 |
| Jucato | !ping | 14:23 |
| ubotwo | pong | 14:23 |
| Jucato | very much :) | 14:23 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, LjL Myrtti and anyone who is interested -- I have muted ubotu in #ubuntu | 14:25 |
| PriceChild | gd gd | 14:25 |
| ompaul | ubotwo is in action | 14:25 |
| ompaul | going to do the same in +1 | 14:25 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, got ops in -irc? | 14:28 |
| ompaul | if so op me for a moment I'll invite ubotwo and mute ubotu | 14:28 |
| ompaul | unless you can | 14:28 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: all ubuntu members have ops in -irc | 14:29 |
| ompaul | jussi01, hehe well there is a comment ni there now | 14:29 |
| jussi01 | :) | 14:30 |
| ompaul | jussi01, see my request in there please mute ubotu | 14:30 |
| ompaul | jussi01, I don't have ops there | 14:31 |
| ompaul | please do what I asked to be done there before I feel obliged to remove ubotwo | 14:32 |
| ompaul | we can't have two bots live at the same time | 14:32 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: gah, my bad, walked away to grab a drink, sorry | 14:32 |
| ompaul | job done | 14:32 |
| jussi01 | yep | 14:33 |
| stdin | need someone to do #ubuntu-devel -motu and #kubuntu-devel too | 14:33 |
| ompaul | MARK --- heads up on the bots front | 14:33 |
| stdin | someone keep an eye on heng in #k, I have to step away for a while and they just unloaded an ungodly paste in there | 14:35 |
| jussi01 | stdin: Ill watch him | 14:35 |
| ompaul | I just did !ops in -devel and then only then did the lag thing occur to me | 14:38 |
| ompaul | fun | 14:39 |
| tonyyarusso | ompaul: 'k | 14:39 |
| PriceChild | :P | 14:39 |
| ompaul | does anyone else want to take on either kubuntu-devel or motu? | 14:39 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, <bad words here> | 14:39 |
| PriceChild | ompaul: i have access in -motu somehow... | 14:40 |
| PriceChild | Who can put ubotwo in there? | 14:40 |
| ompaul | I can | 14:40 |
| AndrewB | hello Gary | 14:40 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, should be there now | 14:41 |
| * Gary hurts AndrewB | 14:41 | |
| PriceChild | liquid football | 14:41 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, that work for you? | 14:41 |
| PriceChild | ,seems good | 14:41 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: kubuntu-devel is dead today, I wouldnt bother | 14:42 |
| ompaul | jussi01, it will be like that til wed | 14:42 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: ahh, none of the ops are around atm. | 14:43 |
| ompaul | jussi01, well ask them to come here and have one | 14:44 |
| ompaul | so they can have a working bot of sorts | 14:44 |
| ompaul | cos the other one is dead | 14:44 |
| ompaul | to all intensive purposes | 14:44 |
| LjL | hm? | 14:48 |
| LjL | ubotu's still ill? | 14:48 |
| jussi01 | yes, quite so | 14:49 |
| Myrtti | sick as a puppy | 14:49 |
| PriceChild | sick as a sick puppy | 14:49 |
| LjL | so ubotu needs muting somewhere? | 14:52 |
| ompaul | LjL, kubuntu-devel | 14:53 |
| ompaul | -devel | 14:53 |
| LjL | meh | 14:53 |
| LjL | ubo*two* is muted there | 14:53 |
| LjL | i can make ubotu part | 14:53 |
| LjL | but that doesn't help unmuting ubotwo | 14:53 |
| ompaul | LjL, no we don't want it to part | 14:54 |
| ompaul | we want it muted | 14:54 |
| ompaul | LjL, the logic is thus - it is going to log anyway | 14:54 |
| LjL | ompaul: well i can't mute it. what difference does it make if it just parts? | 14:54 |
| ompaul | so we get our bantracker | 14:54 |
| LjL | ompaul, log? it's not ubotu that logs | 14:54 |
| LjL | ompaul, i don't think the bantracker is working at all (it definitely missed my bans yesterday), and anyway how many bans are there in k-devel? | 14:54 |
| ompaul | it might be useful if we really need it | 14:55 |
| ompaul | I would say mute it and let it lag - it is being attached | 14:55 |
| LjL | do we know by whom? | 14:55 |
| LjL | i guess not | 14:55 |
| ompaul | LjL, and much easier to get reset | 14:55 |
| ompaul | no | 14:55 |
| ompaul | if we did they would be allowed on the interweb offramp | 14:56 |
| LjL | i might be able to patch that | 14:56 |
| LjL | !test | 14:56 |
| ubotwo | Fbiled. | 14:56 |
| LjL | it's pretty fast right now | 14:57 |
| LjL | !test | 14:57 |
| LjL | !ping | 14:57 |
| ubotwo | pong | 14:57 |
| LjL | or at least, it in in privmsg | 14:57 |
| LjL | !ping | 14:57 |
| LjL | !test | 14:57 |
| ubotwo | Fbiled. | 14:57 |
| ompaul | LjL, it keeps going out to 20 mins | 14:59 |
| ompaul | has been doing so since yesterday | 15:00 |
| ompaul | LjL, PriceChild Myrtti nalioth and anyone else these are the channels so far covered | 15:01 |
| LjL | Gary: around? | 15:01 |
| Myrtti | huh | 15:02 |
| ompaul | LjL, ? | 15:03 |
| Myrtti | should I unban ubotu from -ot | 15:03 |
| LjL | no | 15:03 |
| ompaul | LjL, so what is with the CRTL C | 15:04 |
| LjL | just checking config | 15:04 |
| Gary | LjL: im not that round, more like a sausage shape | 15:04 |
| ompaul | LjL, here is where I had put it | 15:05 |
| ompaul | offtopic | 15:05 |
| ompaul | ops | 15:05 |
| ompaul | ubuntu | 15:05 |
| ompaul | ubuntu-motu | 15:05 |
| ompaul | +1 | 15:05 |
| LjL | Gary, this time i even went to such lengths as to include the leading "a"... anyway, can you by any chance op me in #kubuntu-devel? | 15:05 |
| ompaul | -classroom | 15:05 |
| Gary | LjL: I cannot do that | 15:05 |
| ompaul | -irc | 15:05 |
| Gary | ask tomaw ? | 15:05 |
| PriceChild | Gary: but ljl is ubuntu contact? | 15:06 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, that is not the issue | 15:06 |
| ompaul | LjL, ask denny | 15:06 |
| Gary | but I have not got super powas pricey | 15:06 |
| PriceChild | ahhh ok | 15:06 |
| LjL | PriceChild, he doesn't have the powah :P | 15:06 |
| Gary | I only have dweeb powas | 15:07 |
| LjL | eh... | 15:07 |
| LjL | that was not me | 15:07 |
| LjL | INFO 2008-03-09T16:07:34 Error message from freenode: Ping sent at | 15:07 |
| LjL | 2008-03-09T16:05:34 not replied to. | 15:07 |
| LjL | darn supybot | 15:07 |
| LjL | jesus christ | 15:10 |
| LjL | i find it rude to just PM staff | 15:10 |
| LjL | since i thought #freenode should be there for that | 15:10 |
| LjL | if only people minded their own business | 15:10 |
| Gary | LjL: yeah | 15:11 |
| LjL | ok | 15:11 |
| LjL | there is something fishy here | 15:11 |
| jussi01 | LjL: I have ubot5 on standby if need be. | 15:11 |
| LjL | jussi01, i suspect it may end up doing the same thing, somehow... why wasn't ubotwo doing this five minutes ago? | 15:12 |
| jussi01 | yes, bit weird, I agree | 15:13 |
| ompaul | LjL, can you get it to join a specific server i.e. one that it is not on atm next time it quits ;-) | 15:14 |
| LjL | ompaul: not on atm? | 15:15 |
| ompaul | at the moment | 15:15 |
| ompaul | i.e. join a different sever on next quit | 15:15 |
| LjL | ompaul, well it joins irc.freenode.net, so shouldn't it cycle random servers already? | 15:16 |
| ompaul | na it will go to a short haul ping but it seems to be getting somewhere it is not comfortable | 15:16 |
| LjL | sigh, yeah | 15:17 |
| LjL | i'll join it to calvino | 15:17 |
| ompaul | k | 15:18 |
| LjL | ah it already connects to calvino | 15:18 |
| LjL | then i'll connect it to irc. :) | 15:18 |
| ompaul | heheh | 15:19 |
| LjL | !test | 15:19 |
| ompaul | !test | 15:20 |
| ubotwo | Fbiled. | 15:20 |
| LjL | it just takes too frigging long to join all channels for some reason | 15:23 |
| LjL | hopefully not an artificial reason | 15:23 |
| ompaul | tell it to join the server and nothing else | 15:23 |
| LjL | INFO 2008-03-09T16:22:59 Join to ##ljl on freenode synced in 168.11 seconds. | 15:23 |
| ompaul | we can add channels one per second | 15:24 |
| LjL | ompaul, it does much much less than one per second | 15:24 |
| ompaul | LjL, leave it off for 2 mions | 15:24 |
| LjL | more like one per 30 seconds | 15:24 |
| ompaul | LjL, can you clear its auto join list to three channels | 15:25 |
| ompaul | here ubuntu and ljl | 15:25 |
| ompaul | then we can add them one at a time | 15:25 |
| LjL | yeah i'm doing just that | 15:25 |
| ompaul | LjL, then say when you are ready we can add them reallllllly slowly | 15:26 |
| LjL | besides i don't quite understand the "server PING not replied to" thing | 15:27 |
| LjL | since when does freenode sends more than one ping per week =) | 15:27 |
| Seeker` | so both ubotu and ubotwo are playing up? | 15:28 |
| ompaul | differently | 15:28 |
| LjL | Seeker`: ubotwo is just on too many channels for its liking i think | 15:28 |
| Seeker` | who runs ubotwo? | 15:28 |
| LjL | me | 15:29 |
| Seeker` | connection / box too slow to cope with it? | 15:29 |
| LjL | Seeker`: more like supybot having terrible throttling | 15:31 |
| LjL | is it everywhere yet? | 15:31 |
| ompaul | LjL, no | 15:35 |
| ompaul | it is not in -classroom | 15:35 |
| ompaul | ljl I was wrong | 15:36 |
| LjL | it is | 15:36 |
| ompaul | LjL, see my previous comment | 15:36 |
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| Jack_Sparrow | Any other ops here.. <Simulation> just rm -fr /* | 19:17 |
| jdong | I don't understand what the * is for. | 19:18 |
| jdong | does he just not want to wipe out the XFS defragger metadata in /.xfs-fsr? | 19:18 |
| stdin | just warn them that doing that is not acceptable and that, if they do it again, it's grounds for banning/removal | 19:19 |
| Jack_Sparrow | jdong, I muted him as I was unsure.. He joined, and in the first minute posted that in resonse to no one.. | 19:19 |
| stdin | oh, then join and do it? then remove/ban | 19:19 |
| stdin | it's more likely a troll than not in that case | 19:20 |
| ompaul | Jack_Sparrow, where ubuntu? | 19:21 |
| Jack_Sparrow | YEs | 19:21 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Jack_Sparrow> May I ask why you posted that in the channel | 19:23 |
| Jack_Sparrow | <Simulation> it was a joke man | 19:23 |
| Jack_Sparrow | <Simulation> only to make fun | 19:23 |
| ompaul | ahh we shall have fun now | 19:24 |
| stdin | to that I tend to respond "so you think it's funny to make people loose all their data?" | 19:24 |
| stdin | and wait for the "umm, err, well, no" response | 19:24 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I have in pm , want me to ask him to come here and explain or just ban him | 19:24 |
| ompaul | incoming | 19:25 |
| ompaul | I ban forwarded him to here | 19:25 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Ok.. | 19:25 |
| ompaul | Jack_Sparrow, that is a !ops if you are unsure | 19:25 |
| stdin | he is an op anywho ;) | 19:26 |
| ompaul | stdin, not an issue he can still ask | 19:26 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Didnt want to wake everyone.. just those of us that were already here | 19:26 |
| ompaul | Jack_Sparrow, never fear asking me if I am here | 19:26 |
| ompaul | if here hth | 19:26 |
| ompaul | back in a mo | 19:26 |
| Jack_Sparrow | :) | 19:26 |
| stdin | if you're unsure then we won't mind (or at least I won't) | 19:26 |
| Pici | Never fear! ompaul is here! | 19:26 |
| Jack_Sparrow | <Simulation> 1. there is absolutely nothign to discuss | 19:30 |
| Jack_Sparrow | <Simulation> 2. is your sexual life so boring ? | 19:30 |
| Jack_Sparrow | <Simulation> 3. if you still want to discuss tell me your phone number and we can talk | 19:30 |
| ompaul | Pici, the pun maker | 19:30 |
| ompaul | Jack_Sparrow, ignore | 19:30 |
| ompaul | conversation is over | 19:30 |
| Jack_Sparrow | yep | 19:30 |
| ompaul | resist the urge to reply | 19:30 |
| Jack_Sparrow | HE is heading to Gentoo anyhow..:) | 19:32 |
| Jack_Sparrow | I need to leave in a sec.. wife wants me to go look at a house she wants to buy | 19:32 |
| ubotwo | eth01 called the ops in #ubuntu | 20:08 |
| tonyyarusso | ompaul: btw, wxPython was on my hilights due to a removal for language yesterday, under a different nick. | 20:10 |
| ompaul | tonyyarusso, interesting | 20:11 |
| ompaul | and noted | 20:11 |
| stdin | LjL, or anyone with access in +1, are you watching them in +1 too? | 20:14 |
| stdin | nvm, tonyyarusso ;) | 20:14 |
| tonyyarusso | stdin: yeah, and apparently ubotwo isn't totally synced - LjL, what's the db schedule for it? | 20:15 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: there is none | 20:15 |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: oh. I thought you had a weekly rsync or something | 20:15 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: wheere it *is* synced, it's just because it's in here lurking and snarfing factoid changes | 20:16 |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: I see. | 20:16 |
| tonyyarusso | so what date is it accurate up through? | 20:16 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: i had a weekly wget, i've stopped that though because of some problems | 20:16 |
| tonyyarusso | ah | 20:16 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: no idea. i can run an update now | 20:17 |
| tonyyarusso | might be a good idea | 20:17 |
| Aranel | #kubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-devel says i'm banned. Why? I didnt talk in this channels. | 20:37 |
| Aranel | I think its a ranged ban and It effects me too. | 20:37 |
| LjL | Aranel: are you quite sure you're banned in #kubuntu-offtopic? | 20:40 |
| stdin | I don't see any ban on you in either channels | 20:40 |
| Aranel | [474] #kubuntu-offtopic You're banned from that channel | 20:41 |
| Aranel | [474] #kubuntu-devel You're banned from that channel | 20:41 |
| stdin | was this just now? | 20:42 |
| Aranel | yes, i can join them in last 24 hours. | 20:42 |
| ompaul | Aranel, ehh what is your ip (pm me if you are not comfortable with it in a public place) | 20:44 |
| ompaul | Aranel, try to join -devel | 20:44 |
| Aranel | ompaul: still says banned. | 20:44 |
| ompaul | sorry -offtopic | 20:44 |
| Aranel | 88.232.248.107 | 20:44 |
| Aranel | i cant join it too. | 20:45 |
| LjL | why is 88.232 banned? it's the turkish spammers, yes, but it's also many legitimate users | 20:45 |
| ompaul | ahh now | 20:45 |
| nalioth | i'd not go "many" | 20:45 |
| nalioth | in fact, i've only seen . . . . Aranel | 20:46 |
| LjL | i've seen quite a few | 20:46 |
| Aranel | :/ | 20:46 |
| LjL | i have 88.232 on highlight | 20:46 |
| LjL | i see them daily | 20:46 |
| LjL | 3 feb 2007 | 20:47 |
| LjL | The Turkish spammers haven't been around for a while, and there have been genuine users trying to join from this address class. Probably best to redirect to #ubuntu-ops if abuse happens again | 20:47 |
| LjL | LjL, Apr 22 2007 13:07:32 | 20:47 |
| Aranel | unban me in -devel please :) | 20:49 |
| * stdin lacks the super mad cow powers in -devel | 20:49 | |
| ompaul | stdin, I am in that club | 20:49 |
| LjL | me too | 20:49 |
| ompaul | the no powers in kubuntu | 20:49 |
| LjL | was opped earlier today, but had to ask that to christel | 20:50 |
| LjL | and i'm not doing that again | 20:50 |
| ubotwo | LjL called the ops in #kubuntu-devel | 20:50 |
| stdin | unless Hobbsee Mez or Tm_T are here, then we're stuck | 20:51 |
| LjL | precisely | 20:51 |
| stdin | I'm pretty sure riddell is away this weekend too, so he can't help | 20:51 |
| ompaul | Aranel, do you understand the position we are in - some of us don't have access to that channel | 20:51 |
| ompaul | we mostly do stuff in #ubuntu | 20:52 |
| Aranel | ompaul: oh ok, -devel isnt very important for me | 20:52 |
| LjL | we could ask staff, if staff was in the access list :) | 20:52 |
| nalioth | oooh, not nice | 20:52 |
| Aranel | but can you add a bug report etc. for this situation ? | 20:52 |
| nalioth | not nice at all | 20:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Aranel: well, there isn't a bug target of "irc channels", so not really. | 20:52 |
| Aranel | LjL: thanks :) | 20:53 |
| LjL | nalioth: not nice is having to request +o in a channel because of things like this twice in a day | 20:53 |
| tonyyarusso | Aranel: at worst, there's a mailing list it could be sent to, but chances are about 97% that one of those people will be reachable via IRC in the next 24 hours, and will likely respond to that faster than e-mail anyway. | 20:53 |
| nalioth | not nice calling the ops there | 20:53 |
| LjL | nalioth: yeah i know that's what you meant. | 20:54 |
| stdin | I'll have to poke riddell about adding staff (and maybe some others) to the list, when he gets back | 20:54 |
| nalioth | stdin: huh? | 20:54 |
| LjL | stdin: i've sent a memoserv to haggai about that. | 20:54 |
| stdin | LjL: is haggai still active? | 20:55 |
| LjL | was online relatively recently according to nickserv | 20:55 |
| LjL | he's contact anyway | 20:55 |
| stdin | nalioth: adding freenode/staff to the kubuntu-devel access list | 20:55 |
| nalioth | stdin: why? | 20:55 |
| stdin | LjL: I haven't seen them in -devel in, umm, ever | 20:55 |
| LjL | nalioth: so i won't have to ask christel for ops again? | 20:55 |
| stdin | nalioth: just in case an op isn't about and we need one | 20:55 |
| LjL | stdin: well he's #kubuntu contact too for that matter. | 20:56 |
| nalioth | stdin: anyone on the irc council can ask for ops on any #*buntu* channel | 20:56 |
| Myrtti | erm, atleast we we're told about six months ago that *!*@freenode/staff/* should be given op rights on all ubuntu channels? | 20:56 |
| Myrtti | and by we I mean Finns | 20:56 |
| LjL | nalioth: yeah, look at the soap opera in #freenode after i did that (not the staff's fault, but the trolls'). and anyway gary or anyone could have done it if staff were in the access list. | 20:57 |
| LjL | staff should be in the access list. | 20:57 |
| LjL | Myrtti: yes. | 20:57 |
| nalioth | LjL: gary or anyone could op you there, too | 20:57 |
| LjL | nalioth: no, gary can't | 20:57 |
| stdin | nalioth: but what if a council member isn't about and we get a flood bot or something, then a staffer can at least mute them and wait for a real op. if staff aren't on the list they won't get involved right? (as a matter of policy) | 20:57 |
| ompaul | LjL, that will most likely be history in a moment | 20:58 |
| PriceChild | stdin: they will if the contact asks. However not all staff can randomly op everywhere. | 20:58 |
| nalioth | stdin: i suspect #*buntu* policies are known to the staff (as in "you're welcome to operate where necessary") | 20:58 |
| * ompaul has had enough for today | 20:59 | |
| LjL | there is no reason why freenode/staff shouldn't be in the access list. | 20:59 |
| ompaul | cheers all | 20:59 |
| stdin | LjL: [21:00]<ubotwo> File kernel-image-2.4 found in sh:, apt-file:, command, not, found | 21:01 |
| stdin | you should probably disable !find and !info | 21:02 |
| Seeker` | why can t all staff op anywhere? | 21:02 |
| LjL | stdin, !info kind-of works now i think | 21:03 |
| LjL | find, hm, used to work | 21:03 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`: probably in the same way you haven't got access to change levels in channels where you have ops | 21:03 |
| LjL | !find | 21:03 |
| ubotwo | How should I know? | 21:03 |
| stdin | LjL: it says apt-file isn't installed | 21:03 |
| LjL | yeah i see that | 21:03 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: But I thought that was the point of stff | 21:03 |
| LjL | it's not installed indeed, it was two days ago, *shrug* | 21:04 |
| LjL | Seeker`: no | 21:04 |
| Dave2 | Different staffers have different permissions. | 21:04 |
| LjL | Seeker`: staff don't mess with channel business unless they know they're supposed to | 21:04 |
| Dave2 | Hyperion is very flexible in terms of permissions. | 21:04 |
| LjL | and not having them in the access list is a good way to make them suspect they're not supposed to | 21:05 |
| Seeker` | so if someone from the irc council says it ok, they still wont if they aren't int he access list? | 21:06 |
| LjL | Seeker`: they will, if they have the necessary privileges to begin with | 21:06 |
| LjL | anyway | 21:06 |
| Seeker` | so how many "levels" of staff are there? | 21:06 |
| LjL | i don't see what's so damn difficult or absurd or strange in just adding *!*@freenode/staff/* to access lists | 21:07 |
| LjL | Seeker`: that's their business not mine | 21:07 |
| LjL | mine is to make sure channels are set up properly | 21:07 |
| Seeker` | fair enough, i was just asking :) | 21:07 |
| nalioth | LjL: there is nothing wrong with adding staff to the ACLs | 21:09 |
| nalioth | LjL: but there are hundreds of #*buntu* offshoot channels (most official) | 21:09 |
| Myrtti | "delegation" | 21:09 |
| LjL | nalioth: that's why there is a nifty document telling those channels that they should have freenode/staff in the AL | 21:10 |
| Myrtti | I'm biting my nails again | 21:10 |
| nixternal | is the sysadmin channel still around? | 21:16 |
| LjL | what would that be? | 21:16 |
| PriceChild | #canonical-sysadmin ? | 21:17 |
| nixternal | seems that chan is gone | 21:19 |
| nixternal | interesting | 21:19 |
| nixternal | on 3 prior joins, nothing | 21:19 |
| nixternal | thanks PriceChild | 21:19 |
| Pici | Better than someone/something biting your nails | 21:20 |
| Mez | stdin, was k-d sorted? | 21:52 |
| LjL | yes | 21:53 |
| Mez | (if theres ever any issue like that, my number is on nickserv, feel free to call/msg me | 21:53 |
| Mez | (if theres ever any issue like that, my number is on nickserv, feel free to call/msg memez | 21:53 |
| Seeker` | Mez: had a good day? | 21:53 |
| LjL | hardly as serious as that | 21:53 |
| Mez | Seeker`, ? | 21:53 |
| Mez | LjL, *shrugs* if noones aroun... i'm usually at a pc | 21:54 |
| Mez | oh, Seeker` lol - something came up today ... gotta wait for tomorrow | 21:54 |
| Mez | I think i know what you're on about | 21:54 |
| Mez | LjL, how'd you get ops in the end | 21:54 |
| Seeker` | Mez: Was just enquiring how you were | 21:55 |
| LjL | Mez: "i don't know" | 21:55 |
| Seeker` | Mez: :P | 21:55 |
| Seeker` | Mez: Bet you are looking forward to tomorrow now | 21:55 |
| Mez | Seeker`, of course ... v ery much so | 21:56 |
| Mez | chinese food | 21:56 |
| Mez | LjL, lol - someone musta opped you | 21:56 |
| Seeker` | Mez: I had thai food last night - good food, terrible service | 21:56 |
| Seeker` | we were there for 4 hours for a 2 course meal | 21:56 |
| LjL | Mez: i think someone has | 21:56 |
| Mez | Seeker`, i havent had chinese in ages... her suggestion. *shrugs8 last time was great food and the best prawn crackers EVER | 21:57 |
| Mez | but were getting takeaway | 21:57 |
| Seeker` | cool | 21:57 |
| Mez | LjL, dont forget to remind me to set up that ML tomorrow | 21:57 |
| Seeker` | Mez: I get to go home to parents cooking next week \o/ | 21:58 |
| Mez | Seeker`, -ot is better | 21:58 |
| Mez | or /msg | 21:58 |
| Mez | but ovies back on in a sec | 21:58 |
| Seeker` | Mez: just saw that | 21:58 |
| ubotwo | Dr_Willis called the ops in #ubuntu | 22:17 |
| tonyyarusso | yowsers. ubotu is still pulling 21 minutes lag in pm for an info. methinks I'll avoid running those for a few days. | 22:53 |
| tonyyarusso | I've heard packages.ubuntu.org lags by a bit - anyone know how much? | 22:53 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso, ubotu is dead as dead flesh | 22:53 |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: apparently. What happened anyway? | 22:54 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: ask seveas, i've no idea | 22:54 |
| LjL | might be someone attacking it | 22:54 |
| tonyyarusso | grr, we really need a better solution to this bot thing | 22:54 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso, seveas is writing a new one | 22:55 |
| LjL | without supybot | 22:55 |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: I meant the hosting, not the program. | 22:55 |
| tonyyarusso | Something with a) more capacity, b) easier to manage access, and c) better failover (rather than hmm, is LjL around to join ubotwo?) | 22:56 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso, half of this channel can join ubotwo | 22:56 |
| LjL | although half of them don't remember they can | 22:56 |
| tonyyarusso | lol | 22:56 |
| Myrtti | or know | 22:59 |
| LjL | look if only it hadn't a different nickname | 23:04 |
| LjL | about 300 lines a day would be avoided from people making jokes or asking about it | 23:04 |
| nalioth | LjL: why are the bots talking to invisible people in -read-topic? | 23:04 |
| LjL | nalioth: because their quarantine has timed out. they haven't been seen around for longer than 15 days. | 23:05 |
| LjL | that's how the bots keep the banlist clean. | 23:05 |
| nalioth | ah | 23:05 |
| Myrtti | magnetron: why did you ctcp version and time me? | 23:27 |
| Myrtti | aäshha | 23:28 |
| LjL | Myrtti: wasn't that martiini? | 23:28 |
| Myrtti | nvm | 23:28 |
| Myrtti | wrong window, wrong nick comp | 23:28 |
| LjL | Myrtti: was that martiini or not? | 23:28 |
| Myrtti | was | 23:28 |
| Myrtti | just noticed it, he did it like 0121 and 0122 | 23:29 |
| LjL | nalioth, mind having a look at the exchange between me/myrtti and martiini? | 23:29 |
| LjL | in #ubuntu-offtopic that is | 23:29 |
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