[00:04] Something ironic about that mneptok? [00:13] morning [00:32] !test [00:33] Failed. [00:34] mneptok: you have a perverse sense of humor ;) [00:36] !test [00:36] Failed. [00:36] @btlogin [00:36] I think its ready to go back in. === crdlb_ is now known as crdlb [00:53] more problems with ubotu? [00:58] Seeker`: did you unplug it? [00:58] not that I know of# [00:58] come to think of it, I dont know what all the plugs in my room are actually plugged in to [00:59] * Seeker` aspires to actually lose a computer one day - have it respond to ping etc., but not be able to work out where exactly it is [01:16] Seeker`, i've done that [01:16] found it eventually though [01:16] but that was at my old workplace [01:16] Mez: Where was it? [01:16] where there were about 15 rooms it could have been in [01:17] It was eventually found in the boiler room (which is where the first internet connection was put in) [01:17] heh [01:17] I think it might have been put in there to keep the ISDN line as a backup net thing [01:17] was strange though - we hadnt used that room in over a year [01:17] hehe [01:18] i also now have to be careful i dont do the same with my eee [01:18] anyways, i've got a food delivery coming at 10am so I should head to bed. [01:18] Night all [01:18] nn [01:56] indygunfreak has been around so long and says such stupid things more often than not, that i get suspicious about him [02:10] isn't mark shuttleworth a cosmonaught? [02:11] yes, he was [02:11] (instead of being an astronaught) [02:13] Seeker`: what's the difference? [02:13] AFAIK it's just russian vs American terminology, right? [02:13] I think one is being sent up by russians, the other by americans [02:13] same thing [02:13] they both do the same thing [02:14] yeah [02:15] but there is a difference :) [02:17] ubotu is muted in #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-kde4, unmute when it's working again, some of you should be able to make ubotwo part as well, i'm going to bed [02:17] whats wrong with it atm? [02:23] Seeker`: you were saying? [02:27] LjL: grrr had to be muted again? I unmuted earlier as sit seemed fine [02:27] beds [02:37] nalioth: what is causing the problems with ubotu? [02:45] Seeker`: i have no clue [03:05] Jucato: yeah [03:06] er, jussi01: yeah [03:13] :P [08:10] I don't trust irssi's netsplit handling yet, tis weird. [08:11] I've trusted it until recently [08:12] and I've been using irssi since 2003 [08:12] no, 2002 [08:16] :P [08:23] no but really [08:23] I saw the weirdest crash on IRCnet couple of days ago [08:23] started out as a netsplit (or that what irssi thought it was) [08:24] and people ended up joining with their alt nicks, those with straight ip-addresses to connect to servers faster than those with FQDN:s [10:48] !test | ompaul [11:12] wow, slow night [11:12] no one called for ops at all in the last 8 hours? [11:13] that's good :) [11:13] Amaranth, the bot is so lagggggggggggggggggged [11:13] hrm, my connection is broken [11:14] I did !test 20 mins ago [11:15] ompaul: I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker. Only https (hence mibbit) works [11:15] Seveaz, np [11:17] hmmm [11:24] where is ubotu? [11:31] sick [11:31] hi fiosse, how can we help you today? [11:31] hi Myrtti [11:31] how to mask my id ? [11:33] what the message it appear ? [11:33] fiosse, better Join #freenode & ask there [11:34] thx gary4gar [12:00] gary4gar: anything else we can do? [12:01] ubotu's down? [12:01] hm, why is Seveaz connecting from there? [12:02] seems alive [12:02] oh, i'm delayed [12:02] Hobbsee: [03/09/08 13:12:53] < Seveaz> ompaul: I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker. Only https (hence mibbit) works [12:02] ugh [12:02] just use one of the replacement bots then [12:03] heh, ubotwo is in #k and #u but not here [12:03] ah yse [12:03] what about other channels? [12:04] gary4gar: /whois ubotwo [12:05] Hobbsee: I have ubot5 on standby if needed - just say the word [12:05] * Hobbsee has priceybot as well [12:06] gary4gar: where else did you want it? [12:06] +1, i guess [12:06] Hobbsee: I'm on mibbit, only https works for me [12:06] Seveaz: dodgy. any eta on fixing/ [12:06] Hobbsee, nothing, I am Leaving :) [12:07] hobbsee, depends on xs4all abuse desk [12:07] ugh [12:07] (aka, could be wednesday, I'm off for three days starting tomorrow) [12:07] * Hobbsee wonders what xs4all is [12:07] my isp [12:08] ah [12:08] ... [12:09] strange guy. [12:09] woo, found a route [12:10] ubotu might be back soon [12:10] Seveaz: if it's going to be dead, tehn replace it with one of it's backups [12:11] can someone /whois ubotu and see if he's joining channels? [12:11] sure [12:11] hm, my whois is lagging [12:11] mibbit's /whois doesn't show channels [12:12] is slowly going, it appears [12:12] ah, he's joining [12:12] neither am I getting them [12:12] yeah, can take up to 15 minutes to get fully synced [12:12] so ubotu will be back soon, but no idea when exactly [12:20] !ops | I'm bacj! [12:20] back* [12:21] I'm bacj!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [12:21] Seveaz called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (I'm bacj!) [12:21] * jussi01 hugs ubotu [12:21] oh goody [12:21] lag again? [12:21] * Amaranth hugs ubotu [12:21] !ping [12:21] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [12:21] Amaranth: thats only -offtopic isnt it? [12:22] !ding [12:22] dong [12:22] ding dong, the witch is dead! [12:22] !jding [12:22] jplease see above [12:22] lol :) [12:22] will i now kick ubotwo from #k? [12:23] not yet [12:23] k [12:23] !moo [12:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [12:23] yeah, it's quick enough [12:23] kick the -2 [12:24] done from #k [12:27] bbl [12:39] hmmm... [12:40] ubotu isnt working now in #k... [12:45] no response in -uk either - I sent a !ping about 3 mins ago [12:46] * jussi01 cries [12:53] should someone do something about -i [13:04] In #ubuntu, icesword said: ubotu, who is ubotwo [13:04] In #ubuntu-offtopic, picard_pwns_kirk said: !ubotwo is ubotu's alter ego. [13:04] In #ubuntu-offtopic, icesword said: ubotu is good,ubotwo is bad [13:08] could someone unban mibbit from -offtopic for today? [13:14] should I keep my fingers off from what's going on at -irc [13:17] @btlogin [13:37] who's been messing with the ubotu? [13:37] !ops [13:37] offtopic people say things were added yesterday, who was poking at it? [13:38] THey were up and down all day yesterday [13:38] * Gary hurts Seveaz for highlighting one of his highlights [13:38] Seveaz, can't you do it yourself? [13:38] Dave2: no, my connection is semi-dead, only https [13:38] I was at my mother inlaw before, where I could ssh [13:38] /cs invite #ubuntu-offtopic should let you in [13:39] I think that overrides bans, anyway. [13:39] I'm going to have to kill people [13:40] I'll be back on wednesday, until then: no ubotu [13:40] * jussi01 walks in from lunch... [13:43] bah Jack_Sparrow, I was almost done typing... :P Thought it might be good to warn the guy that his question is against Freenode policies in addition to just #ubuntu's [13:43] why not just a +e on *!?=53a0071a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/* if he want to get in on mibbit? [13:44] Sorry [13:44] I am pretty sure he knew that [13:45] prolly [13:45] PriceChild: hrm? Identifying should be enough. [13:45] hrmmhhhmmm [13:45] is it really the factoid adding [13:46] tonyyarusso: so why was he asking for the ban removed? :/ [13:46] and yes that should be enough [13:46] factoid additions have done this?! [13:46] ah, yes, and being cloaked helps. [13:46] * Dave2 clearly isn't awake enough yet [13:50] lol.... Clearly, me directing !pm | you means you should choose me to pm, right? [13:57] hmm, shouldn't ubotwo be in here [13:58] stdin: I was thinking the same thing [13:58] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [13:58] Seveaz called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [13:58] wiw [13:58] *wow [13:59] what? [13:59] hehe [13:59] he LLLLLags [13:59] :D [13:59] by 20 minutes? for real? [13:59] yep [13:59] yay [13:59] who want's to un-mute ubotwo then [14:00] ooh, ubotu is coming back too [14:00] ubotu joined -irc [14:00] fail [14:00] doesnt mean that it will be responsive [14:00] let's see if it falls over [14:00] !danger | jussi01 [14:00] just dont anybody use it for a while [14:00] there ya go [14:00] slow as whatever [14:01] let it recover and join channels [14:01] it takes about 15 min to join its 76 channels... [14:02] is it really the factoid adding that made him sluggish? [14:02] and should people in -ot be said not to harass him unnecessarily? [14:02] jussi01: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [14:03] I think I will [14:03] Myrtti, ban him from -offtopic [14:03] yeah, restrict it to important channels [14:03] but then we don't get to log who was banned [14:03] hmmm [14:03] then it is -ot does it matter [14:04] arrr [14:05] decide please [14:05] or better yet [14:05] I'll take the responsibility [14:07] Myrtti: feel free to warn people about bot abuse - many don't realize that it adds significant strain. [14:08] should I remove the ubotu ban? [14:09] if we all play nicely, I could keep track of the bans for today atleast [14:09] eh, dunno. Maybe leave it at least until it's finished joining channels or whatever, then remove in a few minutes. [14:10] if there's any problem at ot and the bans because of this, I take full responsibility. You can all blame me, since I'm the bitch. [14:10] hmmm, we have a repeat in #k ... ubotu is laggy while ubotwo is quick. [14:10] * jussi01 hugggles Myrtti [14:10] Myrtti: You'll just have to knit us all mittens. [14:11] thanks stdin, Wasnt really sure which one to go with. [14:11] I can tell ubotwo what to do, but I wouldn't be able to get ubotu to re-join if I removed it [14:11] don't kick ubotu, just mute [14:11] ok [14:12] btw... "I can't fix it right now, my connection is mostly blocked because of a cracker." - as in nasty person attacking him? [14:14] I think ubotu's catching up, lags going down to normal [14:14] Perhaps this is a little out there, but I'm inclined not to necessarily believe anything said, since not identified. At least with a grain of salt, perhaps. [14:15] ah yes... wasn't identified the first time, and ip was different [14:15] We'll find out when he gets back :) [14:19] jussi01, we know and we know it was [14:19] ompaul: ? [14:20] tonyyarusso, PriceChild ehh I had a word on the side with him - I trust the info given [14:21] read not write [14:21] heh [14:22] LjL, can we have a backup bot please [14:22] ompaul: ubotwo is here [14:22] !ahh [14:22] just needs unmuting. [14:22] woops [14:22] !danger [14:23] okay I wonder just how much out of sync it is [14:23] should be useful [14:23] hrm [14:23] !ping [14:23] pong [14:23] very much :) [14:25] PriceChild, LjL Myrtti and anyone who is interested -- I have muted ubotu in #ubuntu [14:25] gd gd [14:25] ubotwo is in action [14:25] going to do the same in +1 [14:28] PriceChild, got ops in -irc? [14:28] if so op me for a moment I'll invite ubotwo and mute ubotu [14:28] unless you can [14:29] ompaul: all ubuntu members have ops in -irc [14:29] jussi01, hehe well there is a comment ni there now [14:30] :) [14:30] jussi01, see my request in there please mute ubotu [14:31] jussi01, I don't have ops there [14:32] please do what I asked to be done there before I feel obliged to remove ubotwo [14:32] we can't have two bots live at the same time [14:32] ompaul: gah, my bad, walked away to grab a drink, sorry [14:32] job done [14:33] yep [14:33] need someone to do #ubuntu-devel -motu and #kubuntu-devel too [14:33] MARK --- heads up on the bots front [14:35] someone keep an eye on heng in #k, I have to step away for a while and they just unloaded an ungodly paste in there [14:35] stdin: Ill watch him [14:38] I just did !ops in -devel and then only then did the lag thing occur to me [14:39] fun [14:39] ompaul: 'k [14:39] :P [14:39] does anyone else want to take on either kubuntu-devel or motu? [14:39] PriceChild, [14:40] ompaul: i have access in -motu somehow... [14:40] Who can put ubotwo in there? [14:40] I can [14:40] hello Gary [14:41] PriceChild, should be there now [14:41] * Gary hurts AndrewB [14:41] liquid football [14:41] PriceChild, that work for you? [14:41] ,seems good [14:42] ompaul: kubuntu-devel is dead today, I wouldnt bother [14:42] jussi01, it will be like that til wed [14:43] ompaul: ahh, none of the ops are around atm. [14:44] jussi01, well ask them to come here and have one [14:44] so they can have a working bot of sorts [14:44] cos the other one is dead [14:44] to all intensive purposes [14:48] hm? [14:48] ubotu's still ill? [14:49] yes, quite so [14:49] sick as a puppy [14:49] sick as a sick puppy [14:52] so ubotu needs muting somewhere? [14:53] LjL, kubuntu-devel [14:53] -devel [14:53] meh [14:53] ubo*two* is muted there [14:53] i can make ubotu part [14:53] but that doesn't help unmuting ubotwo [14:54] LjL, no we don't want it to part [14:54] we want it muted [14:54] LjL, the logic is thus - it is going to log anyway [14:54] ompaul: well i can't mute it. what difference does it make if it just parts? [14:54] so we get our bantracker [14:54] ompaul, log? it's not ubotu that logs [14:54] ompaul, i don't think the bantracker is working at all (it definitely missed my bans yesterday), and anyway how many bans are there in k-devel? [14:55] it might be useful if we really need it [14:55] I would say mute it and let it lag - it is being attached [14:55] do we know by whom? [14:55] i guess not [14:55] LjL, and much easier to get reset [14:55] no [14:56] if we did they would be allowed on the interweb offramp [14:56] i might be able to patch that [14:56] !test [14:56] Fbiled. [14:57] it's pretty fast right now [14:57] !test [14:57] !ping [14:57] pong [14:57] or at least, it in in privmsg [14:57] !ping [14:57] !test [14:57] Fbiled. [14:59] LjL, it keeps going out to 20 mins [15:00] has been doing so since yesterday [15:01] LjL, PriceChild Myrtti nalioth and anyone else these are the channels so far covered [15:01] Gary: around? [15:02] huh [15:03] LjL, ? [15:03] should I unban ubotu from -ot [15:03] no [15:04] LjL, so what is with the CRTL C [15:04] just checking config [15:04] LjL: im not that round, more like a sausage shape [15:05] LjL, here is where I had put it [15:05] offtopic [15:05] ops [15:05] ubuntu [15:05] ubuntu-motu [15:05] +1 [15:05] Gary, this time i even went to such lengths as to include the leading "a"... anyway, can you by any chance op me in #kubuntu-devel? [15:05] -classroom [15:05] LjL: I cannot do that [15:05] -irc [15:05] ask tomaw ? [15:06] Gary: but ljl is ubuntu contact? [15:06] PriceChild, that is not the issue [15:06] LjL, ask denny [15:06] but I have not got super powas pricey [15:06] ahhh ok [15:06] PriceChild, he doesn't have the powah :P [15:07] I only have dweeb powas [15:07] eh... [15:07] that was not me [15:07] INFO 2008-03-09T16:07:34 Error message from freenode: Ping sent at [15:07] 2008-03-09T16:05:34 not replied to. [15:07] darn supybot [15:10] jesus christ [15:10] i find it rude to just PM staff [15:10] since i thought #freenode should be there for that [15:10] if only people minded their own business [15:11] LjL: yeah [15:11] ok [15:11] there is something fishy here [15:11] LjL: I have ubot5 on standby if need be. [15:12] jussi01, i suspect it may end up doing the same thing, somehow... why wasn't ubotwo doing this five minutes ago? [15:13] yes, bit weird, I agree [15:14] LjL, can you get it to join a specific server i.e. one that it is not on atm next time it quits ;-) [15:15] ompaul: not on atm? [15:15] at the moment [15:15] i.e. join a different sever on next quit [15:16] ompaul, well it joins irc.freenode.net, so shouldn't it cycle random servers already? [15:16] na it will go to a short haul ping but it seems to be getting somewhere it is not comfortable [15:17] sigh, yeah [15:17] i'll join it to calvino [15:18] k [15:18] ah it already connects to calvino [15:18] then i'll connect it to irc. :) [15:19] heheh [15:19] !test [15:20] !test [15:20] Fbiled. [15:23] it just takes too frigging long to join all channels for some reason [15:23] hopefully not an artificial reason [15:23] tell it to join the server and nothing else [15:23] INFO 2008-03-09T16:22:59 Join to ##ljl on freenode synced in 168.11 seconds. [15:24] we can add channels one per second [15:24] ompaul, it does much much less than one per second [15:24] LjL, leave it off for 2 mions [15:24] more like one per 30 seconds [15:25] LjL, can you clear its auto join list to three channels [15:25] here ubuntu and ljl [15:25] then we can add them one at a time [15:25] yeah i'm doing just that [15:26] LjL, then say when you are ready we can add them reallllllly slowly [15:27] besides i don't quite understand the "server PING not replied to" thing [15:27] since when does freenode sends more than one ping per week =) [15:28] so both ubotu and ubotwo are playing up? [15:28] differently [15:28] Seeker`: ubotwo is just on too many channels for its liking i think [15:28] who runs ubotwo? [15:29] me [15:29]