[00:04]  * nealmcb finds /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common  - seems relevant
[00:15] <sommer> zul: how's it going, did all the ebox packages get into universe?
[00:15] <zul> sommer: almost all of them I need to prod the archive admins on monday
[00:16] <sommer> ah gotcha, I just noticed that several weren't there, but are in your ppa
[00:17] <sommer> another issue I noticed is that if you try the backup module... it just hangs there and doesn't complete
[00:17] <zul> oh?
[00:18] <sommer> there isn't much in the logs either... a statement about the progress routine, and then nothing happens
[00:20] <sommer> one sec, I'll post it
[00:21] <sommer> not progress indicator id supplied at /usr/share/ebox/ebox-make-backup line 15.
[00:21] <sommer> ^^ from /var/log/ebox/error.log
[00:22] <zul> k Ill take a look
[00:22] <sommer> cool, thanks man
[00:23] <sommer> nealmcb: have ubuntu on your xo yet?
[00:28] <zul> sommer: doesnt tell me much so I submitted the bug upstream
[00:28] <sommer> ya, I noticed that... kind of a strange error message to put in your code
[00:29] <sommer> or you'd think that there would be a message of why there is no progress indicator id
[00:29] <zul> yeah
[00:29] <sommer> also, why would that cause the entire backup to not work... I could see if just the progress bar or whatever crapped out
[00:30] <zul> not sure at all
[00:30] <sommer> heh, there's a company based on ebox isn't there?
[00:30] <sommer> or is it just one of their side projects?
[00:30] <zul> it looks like one of their side projects
[00:31] <sommer> ah... sometimes it feels like it was created as a reason to learn ajax to me :-)
[01:12] <nealmcb> sommer: no ubuntu yet on the xo - but I've been thinking about it.  you like it?
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought there was
[01:15] <nealmcb> wow - restricted modules with an nvidia card take about 3 times as much memory as the kernel does!  if we have an "ubuntu on 64 mb" page, that is something to warn people about.  but it is easy to disable them with /etc/defaults/ as noted above.  but it isn't easy to find that, or find out what e.g. the "fcdsl drivers" do, which also take lots of space
[01:16] <nealmcb> Kamping_Kaiser: sommer asked if I installed ubuntu on my xo and I said no - but in a way that was confusing.  I know it exists
[01:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah right *grin*
[01:17]  * Kamping_Kaiser must have missed that
[01:23] <sommer> nealmcb: heck ya... ubuntu on the xo rocks
[01:23] <sommer> nealmcb: I just picked up a kensington slimblade wireless kb and mouse... great accessory for the xo
[01:24]  * Kamping_Kaiser is sort of bemused ubuntu fits on and runs ok
[01:24] <sommer> or probably any ultra mobile pc :-)
[01:24] <sommer> Kamping_Kaiser: heh... 2G SD card works wonders
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> sommer, ah, hax :0
[01:25] <sommer> I'm also running  openbox instead of gnome, kde, etc
[01:25] <sommer> not really, xo can boot from usb or sd
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> dietbuntu *heh*
[01:25] <nealmcb> hmm - my brother got an odd error running tasksel, and now it seems hung.  he writes "ubuntu asked me to put the cd in the drive. I just hit enter... it asked again, I did put the cd in the drive and then it said:  "Exiting subroutine via next at /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress line 153, <STDIN> line 7. "   and went on to ask me re mysql root login passwords"
[01:26] <sommer> heh.. slim and trim, that's the way I like it
[01:26] <nealmcb> he installed lamp with tasksel, and had cdrom in his sources.list
[01:27] <nealmcb> sommer: interesting - thanks
[01:27] <sommer> nealmcb: yep, is he installing gutsy?
[01:29] <nealmcb> yes
[01:30] <sommer> and lamp didn't install or it did?
[01:30] <sommer> I may be confused
[01:30] <nealmcb> heh - the $100 laptop with the $130 keyboard/mouse :-)
[01:30] <nealmcb> but yeah - those are the big outages - just don't expect lots of them in africa
[01:31] <sommer> ya... I took a couple of days for me to buy it, but in the end I was like it's only money
[01:31] <nealmcb> lamp did install, but tasksel didn't exit or respond any more
[01:33] <sommer> odd, seems like I've seen tasksel do that before, but I think it was during a hardy alpha
[01:45] <nealmcb> #141601
[01:45] <nealmcb> bug #141601
[01:46] <nealmcb> bug 141601
[01:46]  * nealmcb looks suspiciously at ubotu
[01:46] <nealmcb> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/141601
[01:46] <pwnguin> ubotu died
[01:47] <pwnguin> probably muted itself to prevent getting flooded off again before someone looks at it
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[01:53] <nealmcb> anyway - mine was a known bug - fix released, perhaps
[02:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141601 in debconf "tasksel packages stays at 100%" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141601
[10:52] <nijaba> morning
[10:54] <nijaba> nealmcb: Regarding your tasksel problem: this is a known problem, fixed on hardy, which is the reason why in the JeOS tutorial we chose to use apt-get install lamp-server^ <- note the ^ at the end
[11:41] <gopp__> what is the best way to get a fresh install of samba after I have seem to fucked up the current instal
[11:41] <gopp__> I can not seem to connect to my samba file share
[11:42] <gopp__> apt-get remove samba or what
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp__, apt-get --purge remove samba (and any other needed package)
[11:43] <gopp__> all I wanted to do is have my ubuntu computer act as a small domain controller
[11:43] <gopp__> soo all I do know is install it apt-get install samba
[11:44] <gopp__> thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp__, np. good luck
[11:47] <mookid> I have one box and a dynamic DSL IP... will I still be able to play around with sendmail?
[11:47] <gopp__> hmm for some reason in windows it keeps saying
[11:47] <gopp__> network not found
[11:47] <gopp__> I  reinstalled samba
[11:48] <gopp__> the speficed network is no longer avaible
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> mookid, yes, but dont. use exim or postfix
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> gopp__, you'll proably have to reconfigure it
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> mookid, and using a dynamic, ip, i'd recomend usign your isp as a relay (smart host)
[11:51] <moralbehav> i have got a server, i read the useridr in /home/unixuser/public_html , in the /home i have got chmod 700 * ,the owner (only) can edit, read, execute you files
[11:52] <edneymatias> morning
[11:53] <mookid> Kamping_Kaiser: I have to use sendmail - it's for a new job
[11:53] <mookid> they use sendmail on the front end as a relay
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> moralbehav, can you say all that again?
[11:54] <moralbehav> i have got a server, i read the useridr in /home/unixuser/public_html , in the /home i have got chmod 700 * ,the owner (only) can edit, read, execute you files
[11:54] <moralbehav> the server can read public_html :'<
[11:55] <moralbehav> and i must have got chmod 700 * in the index, becouse is a multi-user server
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> moralbehav, pastebin the output of `ls -lhd /home/unixuser/` and `ls -lhd /home/unixuser/public_html`
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> mookid, ew :(
[11:56] <moralbehav> Kamping_Kaiser k
[11:57] <moralbehav> Kamping_Kaiser http://www.pastebin.ca/935151
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> moralbehav, and what is going wrong exactly? apache *can* see files, or apache *cant* see files?
[12:10] <mookid> Kamping_Kaiser: I think it's just a legavcy thing more than anything
[12:10] <moralbehav> Kamping_Kaiser cant. i use cherokee
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> moralbehav, well whatever your using then
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> mookid, sendmail on ubuntu?
[12:14] <mookid> sendmail
[12:14] <mookid> :p
[12:14] <CJari> hey
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> CJari, ello
[12:14] <mookid> not on ubuntu lol - I'm just using ubuntu cos that's what they're moving onto eventualy anyway
[12:14] <CJari> can anyone help me to setup ftp?
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> CJari, can i suggest you try everything else first?
[12:15] <CJari> I have apache server
[12:15] <CJari> and subversion
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> CJari, can you serve the files over http?
[12:16] <CJari> Kamping_Kaiser : yes
[12:17] <moralbehav> Kamping_Kaiser cant. i use cherokee
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> moralbehav, either make sense, or i'll just leave you for someone else to help
[12:21] <CJari> so I was wondering if proftpd would be ready to be connect with my user(shell) name and password?
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> CJari, it can probably be done, but i dont use ftp
[12:24] <CJari> ok
[13:03] <nijaba> CJari: the reason why most of us do not enable ftp to transfer our file user our accounts is because ftp does not do encryption, so it means you login and password would be visible to anyone sniffing the network -> bad idea
[13:04] <nijaba> CJari: instead we like using scp or sftp for example
[13:04] <CJari> nijaba its ok for private server..
[13:04] <CJari> anything that just works is ok :)
[13:04] <nijaba> CJari: you mean private network?
[13:04] <CJari> yeah
[13:04] <nijaba> right
[13:05] <CJari> I'm trying to get it working now, but I dont know where to look at the problem because the log files are empty
[13:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ftp is a horible protocol, encryption or not
[13:05] <nijaba> what have you installed so far?
[13:06] <nijaba> Kamping_Kaiser: well, quite right that it is DATED
[13:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> nijaba, dated isnt the word i'd use. http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie
[13:06] <nijaba> :)
[13:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[13:07] <CJari> I have installed proftpd
[13:09] <nijaba> CJari: so can you connect to your server now? if not, what error do you get
[13:14] <CJari> nijaba : it just says: "Can't establish connection"
[13:14] <c1|freaky> what else should one use instead of ftp?
[13:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> CJari, try and increase the debug level
[13:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends what you need to happen
[13:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> (i expect)
[13:17] <CJari> unfortunrely there is not debug levels according to my knowledge
[13:17] <CJari> it  may not be running at all
[13:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> how can a service not have a debug level o_0
[13:18] <CJari> because it logs everything I suppose
[13:25] <CJari> I wonder this means: "ProFTPd is started from inetd."  it comes when I do this: "/etc/init.d/proftpd restart"
[13:25] <CJari> Im not sure about the english, is it saying that it has or will be started later on?
[13:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> run `ps aux |grep ftp`
[13:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> however, in answer to your queston, i'd say its telling you taht it didnt start, because inet handles it
[13:28] <CJari> right, thanks
[13:29] <CJari> so that leads to question.. is the inetd running...?
[13:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> unsure.
[13:35] <CJari> hey cool I got it working, had to switch from inetd to standalone from the config
[13:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> good work :)
[13:39] <faulkes-> morning nijaba
[13:40] <faulkes-> and all
[13:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> faulkes-, good morning :)
[13:42] <nealmcb> nijaba: right - thanks! later
[16:58] <sommer> zul: another ebox issue... the log observer event doesn't seem to be configurable
[20:34] <soneil> any suggestions on installing alpha6 into a VM?  -server dies because I don't provide pae, -alternate only shows a "normal" boot option, and jeos dies on bug 189013
[21:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 189013 in ubuntu "JeOS (hardy alpha 4) installation fails @ "Select and install software" stage" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189013
[21:05] <soneil> heh, ty ubotu