[00:00] <test3r> Squawk, J.Sparrow > how Goes it? Hey- I found the bug on launchpad about burning disks in 7.10 , is there any work around to make my CD burner OR my DVD burner (both external - and worked Fine) to make those drives get past the "power calibration" / "failed to write" bug for burning disks?
[00:00] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone tell me how I can keep a windows service which I have written to run under wine continuously going. It all works ok when I launch it from the command line but when I close the terminal window the service stops ...... any ideas?
[00:00] <jdolan_> actually, i just confirmed:  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/sdl-image1.2/sdl-image1.2_1.2.5-3/changelog
[00:01] <jdolan_> apparently it was missing JPG support until very recently.  nice!
[00:01] <abortd> thesaint give me one second
[00:01] <abortd> to remember
[00:01] <Alyx|lappy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JHrY8QjIk the transparent cube I've got but the windows sitting off the cube thing i cant figure out anyone know?
[00:01] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: run disown after starting the service then close the terminal
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircWithPinnaclePCTV?highl%20ight=%28Pinnacle%29
[00:01] <geo> hi how to have srt subtitles in vlc?
[00:02] <abortd> can someone ping me ?
[00:02] <Starnestommy> abortd: like this?
[00:02] <abortd> like what?
[00:02] <`duKe`> thesaint4444: rewrite it to run nativeley under linux :p
[00:03] <abortd> nah there is a way
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> thesaint4444, THere are some command line arguments that will let you close the terminal window...  I dont have them handy but the do exist
[00:03] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: ok, thanks, can I run disown in another terminal window? - as the service does not let me have a command prompt in the same terminal window after it starts up...
[00:03] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: put a '&' after the command
[00:03] <abortd> thesaint4444, hit alt F2
[00:03] <thesaint4444> Jack_Sparrow: specific to wine?
[00:03] <abstrak> Jack_Sparrow: i think this wiki speak about a COM port remote receiver. I have to plug a jack receiver on my PCTV310i PCI card...
[00:03] <abortd> can you run it from that?
[00:04] <s2a> soundray, there is both README and INSTALL
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thesaint4444, NOt sure, I dispise wine and all vm
[00:04] <soundray> s2a: you probably want to read both
[00:04] <lch> how do I switch from beryl to metacity as default compositing manager?
[00:05] <soundray> lch: metacity is not a compositing manager
[00:05] <Esine> soundray, we finally went with vncserver and tunneled through SSH. It's just like Xnest but it was easier to setup and we run inkscape on it:)
[00:05] <geo> hi how to have srt subtitles in vlc?
[00:05] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: & after the wine command? - then I can close the terminal window?
[00:05] <soundray> Esine: ha, I knew it :)
[00:06] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: a space followed by an '&' at the end of the line
[00:06] <abstrak> Jack_Sparrow: you know a channel where this kind of question could have answers ?
[00:06] <lch> soundray, okay, not sure about the nomenclature... but it seems that my video problem is known to be a problem due to Beryl, and switching to metacity helps
[00:06] <lch> so, how do I do that?
[00:07] <geo> hi how to have srt subtitles in vlc?
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, Not really, there just are not enough of those around and fewer running ubuntu
[00:07] <abortd> h,
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lch,  emerald --replace
[00:07] <s2a> soundray, it wants me to work with .rpm?? it says for a debian based system to work with an rpm!!
[00:07] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: nope that didn't work, kill the session and the service still dies....
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> s2a, Someone is not telling the truth
[00:08] <mandrig> Gnea: ndiswrapper didn't work
[00:08] <abortd> im trying to get the codecs installed for this but i cant remember how to get the link from ubotu?
[00:08] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: did you remember to run the disown command after that one?
[00:08] <soundray> s2a: well, you can do that if you want to (look into the alien package), but I would try the checkinstall route first.
[00:08] <s2a> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[00:08] <punzada> Not really ubuntu, more of a general linux question: When ssh'd into a server with remote x, let's say I have an app running, is there anyway to save/pause that app's visual state and say, reboot the client pc and reconnect to the screen session and bring it back up? or will the process always have to be killed?
[00:08] <mandrig> Gnea: and now my wireless card doesn't work at all
[00:08] <s2a> soundray, i alredy tried convering .rpm to .deb without success
[00:09] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: s2a is compiling a proprietary(?) modem driver for his or her 64-bit system
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> s2a, Alien is dangerous and seldom works right
[00:09] <cjones> how do i know if ssh is enabeled on my computer ?
[00:09] <donsmouse> does anyone know of a good web editor for ubuntu?
[00:09] <^4nDr3s> cjones, ssh localhost
[00:10] <abortd> !ubotu restricted
[00:10] <abortd> meh
[00:10] <cjones> thanks
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> soundray, compiling from source is not the same as converting an rmp...  but thanks for the info
[00:10] <Starnestommy> abortd: ubotu isn't working right for some reason
[00:10] <abortd> :(
[00:10] <mandrig> how would I delete all drivers acting on my wireless card?
[00:10] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: s2a was just reporting something that was said in a README file
[00:10] <abortd> i want the restricted link :/
[00:10] <Alyx|lappy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JHrY8QjIk the transparent cube I've got but the windows sitting off the cube thing i cant figure out anyone know?
[00:11] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: do I run the disown command in another shell?
[00:11] <cjones> how do you turn on ssh
[00:11] <Alyx|lappy> abortd: you mean to the restricted drivers?
[00:11] <abortd> no
[00:11] <soundray> cjones: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[00:11] <abortd> so i can run zee mp3s
[00:11] <pajamian> abortd: you mean medibuntu?
[00:11] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: the same shell
[00:11] <cjones> soundray thanks
[00:11] <abortd> medibuntu?
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/NonNativeCodecs?action=show&redirect=RestrictedFormats%2FWindowsCodecs
[00:11] <s2a> soundray, well it was in the INSTALL file
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> aborted
[00:11] <pajamian> abortd: to install not-so-legal programs, etc.
[00:11] <abortd> abortd
[00:11] <s2a> soundray, ill look at README now
[00:12] <abstrak> Anybody know the pctv 310i tv tuner with "remote controller" ? I cannot get any key pressed event !
[00:12] <soundray> s2a: did the INSTALL mention make or make install?
[00:12] <Jgonick> How difficult will it be to install Ubuntu over an existing SUSE on a dual (tri) boot setup? --the other os are Win2k & 98SE. and I believe the boot loader is Lilo.. thanks in advanced.
[00:12] <pajamian> abortd: I usually install the ubuntu-restricted-extra meta-package and a couple things from medibuntu and that gives me everything I need.
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, you may also want to look for the mythtv room
[00:13] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: thats the problem, I run the wine command to start the service with _& appended but that does not give me a command prompt with which to then run disown....
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, Ubuntu live will setup grub and both of those Windows os's
[00:13] <soundray> Jgonick: if you've got that far already, you will find a way to boot Ubuntu as well
[00:13] <cjones> ok so i have ssh installed but when i try to ssh localhost it says connection refused
[00:13] <abortd> what is medibuntu a repo or something?
[00:13] <s2a> soundray, ill paste both documents in pastebin for u
[00:13] <Starnestommy> abortd: I think so
[00:13] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv abstrak
[00:13] <soundray> s2a: sorry, I'm going off soon
[00:13] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: what's the wine command you're trying to run?
[00:13] <pajamian> thesaint4444: have you tried nohup?
[00:13] <abstrak> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I 'll flood #mythtv channel ;-)
[00:13] <s2a> soundray, :(
[00:14] <abortd> i could have sworn i didnt have to add any repos to get the music working
[00:14] <pajamian> abortd: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[00:14] <pajamian> !medibuntu | abortd
[00:14] <^4nDr3s> cjones, sudo apt-get instal openssh-server
[00:14] <soundray> s2a: Jack_Sparrow is very helpful if you ask him nicely and address him as Captain ;)
[00:14] <pajamian> I guess ubotu isn't working today, heh
[00:14] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: ok, sorry that appears to work... i dont have a command prompt exactly but if i type 'disown' it gives me a command prompt and the service is still running...
[00:14] <cjones> 4ndr3s thanks
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> pajamian, bot is in for an oil change
[00:15] <DJDarkstar> anyone use Medibuntu?
[00:15] <s2a> soundray, lol
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, we all do
[00:15] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: what happens when you close the terminal after doing that?
[00:15] <pajamian> hehehe, ok, guess we'll just have to remember these things for ourselves today, then.
[00:15] <pajamian> abortd: just to listen to mp3s?
[00:15] <abortd> i got it now
[00:15] <DJDarkstar> need help with the dvd playback. the playback looks horrible. like it was run thru a shredder
[00:15] <abortd> there is no need to add any medibuntu repos
[00:15] <abortd> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:15] <soundray> s2a: hope you can get it done. Remember, if the worst comes to the worst, you can always get a cheap old serial modem that works every time.
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, By chance ati card?
[00:16] <DJDarkstar> yep
[00:16] <DJDarkstar> x1300
[00:16] <s2a> soundray, i have one and my mobo doesnt have the port :(
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, disable composite in your xorg....
[00:16] <soundray> s2a: you need a USB-serial cable then
[00:16] <Jgonick> Jack_Sparrow:  If I install will it identify my partitions.  Allowing me to overwrite SUSE and add the other two Windows versions to the boot loader?
[00:16] <pajamian> abortd: I'm not sure you have to add anything to a default install, but if so installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package will almost certainly give you what you want.  medibuntu will give you more things like the w32codecs and libdvdcss
[00:16] <s2a> soundray, there is a hardmodem thats usb?!
[00:16] <soundray> s2a: most of the bog standard ones work plug-and-play
[00:16] <DJDarkstar> how do i go about that
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, yes  the installer has those options
[00:17] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: I close the terminal and the service is still running :-)
[00:17] <abortd> ubuntu-restricted-extras gave me the w32codecs last time
[00:17] <Arcticpenguin380> is reiserfs more fast than ext3
[00:17] <soundray> s2a: I'm talking about a USB cable that will connect your non-serial machine to your serial modem.
[00:17] <pajamian> abortd: no, it won't give you w32codecs.
[00:17] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: so how do I stop the service if I need to, kill the process?
[00:17] <ArthurArchnix> Wow... it's pretty much well known that the ipw (intel wireless) drivers are bad news for a laptop battery; but I just finished tweaking my system with powertop and after turning off wireless I had about 150 interrupts per second. A little bit of work, and then I killed the synclient process, it dropped to 25 interrupts per second. I've uninstalled it, but that's pretty amazing right? Who would of thought xserver-xorg-input-
[00:17] <caba> hi
[00:18] <abortd> well when i installed it last time i guess the magic linux genie came and gave my comp the codecs
[00:18] <Ward1983> to whoever jsut helped me with GRUB it worked out, thanx
[00:18] <Jgonick> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm guessing it will overwrite Lilo with Grub ..correct?  Thanks for the help
[00:18] <pajamian> abortd: but you don't need w32codecs for mp3s, you need tyhem if you want to watch videos in real format and other proprietary formats.
[00:18] <Ward1983> hope you read this i forgot your name lol
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, Yes it will replace lilo with grub
[00:18] <Starnestommy> thesaint4444: kill process-id
[00:18] <CaBa> how is it possible that the server release is supported longer than the workstation release? do they actually base on different packages?
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, Please keep it in channel...
[00:19] <Ward1983> how can i check who PMed me the last time i was online before this time?
[00:19] <thesaint4444> Starnestommy: yeah ok, many thanks for the help!
[00:19] <Ward1983> i forgot who just helped me
[00:19] <jetscreamer> CaBa: it's less of a hassle for desktop users to 'upgrade'
[00:19] <Jgonick> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks for the help.. I guess I'll attempt sometime this week.  Thanks again.
[00:19] <jetscreamer> imo
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, PMing without asking is considered rude...    gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:19] <pajamian> Ward1983: you on xchat?
[00:19] <CaBa> jetscreamer: that was not my question
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, np
[00:19] <Ward1983> pajamian, yes
[00:20] <pajamian> Ward1983: I would do: ls -latr ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/
[00:20] <CaBa> jetscreamer: i was wondering how they make the difference between a ubuntu server and a ubuntu workstation
[00:20] <^4nDr3s> how can imount a fat16 partition, like this??? sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sdaX /media/disc
[00:20] <thesaint4444> 'duKe': hey duke, do you think your comment was helpfull?
[00:20] <bradley> can anyone walk me through getting my computer to look like vista
[00:20] <Ward1983> thanx pajamian
[00:20] <jetscreamer> CaBa: just what's in it
[00:20] <pajamian> Ward1983: the most recently modified logs will be at the bottom, including the log of your PM (if that's available)
[00:20] <sanguisde1> so is any one else having trouble getting their email after the last evolution update?
[00:20] <jetscreamer> CaBa: not where it comes from
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> CaBa, the server does not install gnome or all the extra apps
[00:20] <`duKe`> I dont think so, thesaint4444
[00:21] <thesaint4444> 'duKe': quite right... lol
[00:21] <`duKe`> but it would be a way, if you cant figure out to run your application with wine
[00:21] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so you want to say that the LTS team simply stopps supporting the gui apps?
[00:21] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: so it doesnt matter for the updates whether i install the workstation image or the server image on my server?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CaBa, not at all
[00:21] <^4nDr3s> how can i mount a fat16 partition, like this??? sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sdaX /media/disc
[00:22] <Ward1983> pajamian, looool sorry i must be wasted or something i was just online on windows because i coulcnt boot linux
[00:22] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: yep, you probably don't need the -t msdos part as mount should recognize it automagically.
[00:22] <Ward1983> pajamian, is there any command to check with freenode?
[00:22] <Jack_Sparrow> CaBa, you can get LTS with desktop and all the gui apps
[00:22] <dwater> want to install to md raid1 - do I need to use the alternate cd or is it possible (reasonably) with the standard one?
[00:22] <thesaint4444> 'duKe': not really.... - people often have to do this because somewhere along the line they have some legacy code they have to use and don't have the source for.
[00:22] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: yes i am aware of that
[00:22] <pajamian> Ward1983: sorry, none that I'm aware of.  I would run a similar command in the log directory of your windows IRC program.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dwater, raid is an uphill batter, read everything you can before you start.
[00:23] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: i want to know if it matters what image i install on the server
[00:23] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, yeah the thing is that it is not recognizing it, could the partition table or disc be corrupted?
[00:23] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: for the updates i mean
[00:23] <Ward1983> pajamian, thanx for the help
[00:23] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: what's the error message?
[00:23] <pajamian> Ward1983: no problem.
[00:23] <dwater> thanks done it before, just using server install not desktop
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> CaBa, It should not matter for the updates...
[00:23] <CaBa> Jack_Sparrow: that was my question :) thanks
[00:24] <dwater> just want to know that he raid options aren't on the standard cd, rather than hidden somewhere
[00:24] <kesi> hi all: never had this problem till today but I suddenly have a lot of  lag from my keyboard and mouse in gutsy.    Doesn't seem to happen in my Windows partition.. I have rebooted and it's still happening any suggestions?  Also getting alot of stuck keys
[00:24] <DJDarkstar> Jack_Sparrow - Ok that fixed that but now the video plays fine for a few seconds then goes black and picks up again
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> dwater, I do not believe they are included on the Livecd
[00:24] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, something like this... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58935/
[00:25] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, it doesn't matter if i specify the filesystem or not, it shows the same message
[00:25] <dwater> thanks Jack - it's as I suspected - some of the howtos mention the alternate, but don't say why (ie that the raid options aren't on the standard cd)
[00:25] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: vfat is fat32, you said the partition was fat16
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, what does fglrxinfo show in terminal  ati or mesa
[00:25] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, i know, i tried doing it with msdos (the other was an example)
[00:26] <DJDarkstar> Jack_Sparow, I don't know how to get that info
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, open terminal...  type fglrxinfo
[00:26] <thesaint4444> sorted... - many thanks for the help guys, have a good night! :-)
[00:26] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, it does not matter if i use the -t option or no option, it shows the same message
[00:26] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: ok, are you sure you have the correct partition?
[00:27] <DJDarkstar> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[00:27] <DJDarkstar> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[00:27] <DJDarkstar> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 / X1550 Series
[00:27] <DJDarkstar> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[00:27] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58936/
[00:27] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, i was thinking that maybe that partition is corrupted or maybe the partition table...
[00:28] <Arcticpenguin380> !vfat
[00:28] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: ok, have you tried runnign ckfs on it?
[00:28] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, nope, i will do it now, thanks ;)
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, Sorry I dont have many answers atm, struggling to wake up from my nap..  I would try #Compiz channel and make sure you have everythin setup as that may help with everything in general..
[00:29] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: sorry fsck
[00:29] <DJDarkstar> no prob, thank you .. and i'll give them a try
[00:29] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, thanks i will do it know!
[00:29] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: yw
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, I have a page of notes on that card if you get stuck
[00:30] <DJDarkstar> Send me the file.
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, Let me pastebin it one sec
[00:31] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: if you're not sure, you can always image the partition and do whatever you want on the image file instead of the partition, that way you won't accidentally further corrupt stuff on the partition.
[00:31] <DJDarkstar> no prob and thank you so much
[00:31] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, how do i do that?
[00:31] <SpudDogg> There's no sense crying over every mistake.  You just keep trying until you run out of cake.
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> DJDarkstar, Please pay particular attention to the other xorg edits...   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58937/
[00:32] <mandrig> how do you configure a wireless care?
[00:32] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/path/to/image/file
[00:32] <mandrig> cadr*
[00:32] <mandrig> shit, card***
[00:32] <DJDarkstar> will do
[00:32] <r3n0c> hey, how do i make a bash script runnable from any directory? if i put it in /bin/ shouldn't i be able to sh script.sh from wherever i want?
[00:32] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: then you would need to use -oloop when mounting the image file
[00:32] <Starnestommy> r3n0c: it'll probably safer to put it in /usr/local/bin/
[00:32] <^4nDr3s> pajamian, thanks i'll try that too ;)
[00:33] <r3n0c> Starnestommy, it should jus twork tho right?
[00:33] <farruinn> r3n0c: as long as it's anywhere in your PATH
[00:33] <pajamian> ^4nDr3s: just make sure you have enough space to create an image file which will hold the entire partition.
[00:33] <r3n0c> farruinn,  so there is no way to get it to be global?
[00:33] <Flyerfye> How do I run dvd's on ubuntu
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | Flyerfye
[00:33] <r3n0c> it is just annoying to have to go to that directory to run it, since it does the same thing regardless of where it is run from
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Bot be gone! egads
[00:34] <farruinn> r3n0c: if it's in your PATH it's global
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> r3n0c,  or make an alias for the full path to the command.
[00:34] <pajamian> Flyerfye: you need libdvdcss from medibuntu and a decent dvd player (I recommend vlc)
[00:34] <mandrig> how do you move a dir in terminal?
[00:34] <farruinn> mandrig: cd [directory]
[00:34] <farruinn> mandrig: wait, mv
[00:34] <Starnestommy> mandrig: mv oldir newdir
[00:34] <mandrig> thanks
[00:34] <farruinn> mandrig: thought you meant "move to"
[00:34] <Pelo> mandrig, mv /dir /dir2
[00:34] <pajamian> mandrig: mv foo bar
[00:35] <r3n0c> ok, me  = bash script noob, i have a script.sh        i have been running it by doing sh script.sh....... where/what should i do to make it work from whever i want
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> r3n0c,  chmod +x it for a start
[00:35] <Pelo> r3n0c, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> alias 'foo=/fullpath/to/foo'
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> is one way.
[00:35] <pajamian> r3n0c: make sure it has a proper hashbang line at the top and chmod it +x
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> r3n0c,  or make a ~/bin dir and keep all your scripts in that dir. and put it in your PATH
[00:36] <r3n0c> oooo so i need #!/bin/bash at the top... i wasn't sure that that was necessary
[00:36] <gregbrady> Does dvd::rip copy standard movie dvd's like dvd shrink does in windows?
[00:36] <pajamian> r3n0c: yeah, or #!/bin/sh
[00:36] <mrbit> hello
[00:36] <r3n0c> ok, one sec
[00:36] <nbkr> gregbrady, Probably, but there is a simpler tool. Try k9copy
[00:36] <goxy> i have problem with ssh credentials is right place for ask?
[00:36] <pajamian> gregbrady: for copying movie dvds I recommend k9copy
[00:37] <nbkr> goxy, Yes.
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gregbrady, yes or k9copy
[00:37] <gregbrady> nbkr, pajamian, thanks, I'll try that!
[00:37] <mrbit> i've browsed through some faqs and haven't found a solution yet. care if i run  a question by you guys?
[00:37] <pajamian> gregbrady: k9copy will also compress them to fit on a single layer (4 gig) DVD
[00:37] <Flyerfye> how do  I download packages from medibuntu
[00:37] <stinger23843> Hello I been having trouble install ubuntu on my server anyone able to help me out ?
[00:37] <pajamian> mrbit: just ask, don't ask to ask
[00:37] <nbkr> mrbit, Just ask your question, worst thing that can happen is that nobody knows the anwer.
[00:37] <gregbrady> pajamian, perfect.  Sounds idea.
[00:37] <gregbrady> *ideal
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[00:37] <mrbit> trying to change the mysql root passwd
[00:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:37] <mrbit> i get ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[00:38] <pajamian> Flyerfye: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yeeessssss
[00:38] <Pelo> Flyerfye, add the medibuntu repos to your sources.list file and use apt or synaptic to get the package you want
[00:38] <pajamian> yay!
[00:38] <mrbit> i've changed the socked file too in my.cnf
[00:38] <pajamian> !botsnack
[00:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[00:38] <r3n0c> ok so lets say, i put it in /usr/local/bin.   at the top of the script i do #!/usr/local/bin.         but i still cant' run it from anywhere, what do i do next?
[00:38] <nbkr> mrbit, Is the server really up and running? Does it show up in "ps aux"?
[00:38] <mrbit> yes
[00:38]  * MatBoy is happy with gnome :)
[00:38] <mrbit> it is mysqladmin reset-password
[00:38] <mrbit> correct?
[00:38]  * Pelo pats MatBoy on the head , good boy 
[00:39] <stinger23843> When i stick the install CD in and go through the install process it hangs at 80% (floppy driver detection) so i have disabled everything to do with floppy drivers in my bios and also unpluged the floppy drive still same error
[00:39] <mrbit> or "mysql reset-password"
[00:39] <pajamian> r3n0c: nope, at the top of the script you put: #!/bin/sh
[00:39] <MatBoy> Pelo, hehe, XFCE is slow these days comapring to gnome :)
[00:39] <goxy> no other distros whe I once type ssh credentials for ssh server  or for example for svn +ssh they are memorized so on the subsequent logins i not need to retype them but on ubutn this is not case Why? and how to make it
[00:39] <goxy> ??
[00:39] <MatBoy> and gnome is very clear, the My Places is alo very nice
[00:39] <pajamian> r3n0c: and set it chmod 755
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> stinger23843, It usually hags there for two or three passes then installs.. wait for it
[00:39] <Pelo> MatBoy,  I like the simplicity of gnome
[00:40] <r3n0c> pajamian, but there's no /bin/sh             or did you mean #!/bin/script.sh
[00:40] <bluebanana> what's the animal name that is the current ubuntu?
[00:40] <MatBoy> Pelo, nah, XFCE is poor comparing to Gnome
[00:40] <stinger23843> Jack_Sparrow how long should i wait last time i tried i think i waited at least 15 - 20 mins and still nothing ?
[00:40] <pajamian> $ ls -la /bin/sh
[00:40] <pajamian> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-11-10 08:50 /bin/sh -> dash
[00:40] <MatBoy> Pelo, but gnome was not that good 2 years ago
[00:40] <Pelo> bluebanana, gibbon , I type of monkey I beleive
[00:40] <nbkr> mrbit, I usually reset passwords via myql "UPDATE mysql.user ...".
[00:40] <pajamian> r3n0c: you should have something like that
[00:40] <mrbit> i've never had to reset one b4
[00:40] <pajamian> r3n0c: you can use /bin/bash if you want
[00:40] <dn4> any idea on how to broadcast on justin.tv using a program like flash media encoder but something open source?
[00:41] <bluebanana> Pelo thank
[00:41] <bluebanana> s
[00:41] <nbkr> goxy, Sorry, I didn't understand what you tried to say. Can you add some full stops in your sentences to make it easier to read?
[00:41] <bradley> how do you get Control Center?
[00:41] <stefano> i can't watch videos anymore, it's just black. it just happens when my second screen is attached and the primary display (laptop) is disabled. what should i do?
[00:41] <Pelo> MatBoy, I installed xubuntu on my aunts comp,  she's not computer savy and I was very disapointed at how "not freindly" the menus and general interface in xcfe are
[00:41] <mrbit> /etc/init.d# mysql reset-password
[00:41] <mrbit> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[00:41] <r3n0c> pajamian,  still get that it can't be opened. i'm try'n to run it from desktop
[00:41] <pajamian> r3n0c: what's the error?
[00:41] <abortd> can anyone help me i accidently  clicked a button on xchat and the top bar thing went away
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> stinger23843, Not sure, that should have been long enough...  use F6  remove quiet and splash for a start  and also try noapic acpi=off   before the --
[00:41] <MatBoy> Pelo, indeed, and than we even didn't talked about KDE yet ;)
[00:41] <bradley> how do you get the compiz control center?
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[00:41] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:42] <r3n0c> sh:  Can't open makeZip.sh
[00:42] <mrbit> bradley: look under the add/remove programs and click on all packages
[00:42]  * Pelo starts to wonder if there is a gnome type pannel menu that can be added in xcfe 
[00:42] <mrbit> then search for it
[00:42] <superbob> evenin all
[00:42] <nbkr> dn4, You can create the video with a digital camera and kino. Afterwards transform it to the Flash Video format using ffmepg.
[00:42] <bradley> mrbit: ok now what
[00:42] <mandrig> how do you delete a dir from term?
[00:42] <superbob> I just jumped upto Hardy Heron, and it defaulted to the 386 kernel, which doesnt have smp compiled in
[00:42] <pajamian> r3n0c: it's in /usr/local/bin?
[00:42] <superbob> Is that meant to do that? :-)
[00:42] <dn4> nbkr, kino does the trick?
[00:42] <stefano> where was that dialog where i can set output methods (for webcams and such)?
[00:42] <mrbit> "rm dir" if its empty
[00:42] <gregbrady> k9copy just gives scrambled output when it is trying to encode
[00:42] <mrbit> rm -rf dir    if it has stuff in it
[00:42] <Pelo> superbob, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:42] <r3n0c> pajamian, yeah, but how do i make it so that i can run it from any directory, just so that i don't have to always go to /usr/local/bin to sh it
[00:43] <superbob> pelo, k ta
[00:43] <dn4> nbkr, I am talking about streaming live video
[00:43] <r3n0c> pajamian, i know that if i navigate to the dir it will work, i'm try'n to make it so that i could run it regardless of were i am
[00:43] <nbkr> dn4, kino is used to get the video data from your digital camera (via firewire) onto your disk. It doesn't broadcast anything.
[00:43] <dn4> nbkr, ahh
[00:43] <pajamian> r3n0c: tell me what this gives you: ls -l /usr/local/bin/makeZip.sh
[00:43] <unwar> Hey guys. :)
[00:43]  * Pelo finds this theme to be impertinently freindly and dangerously cheerfull  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MurrineRounded?content=54088
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, Did you install ccsm?
[00:43] <nbkr> dn4, streaming live video could probably be done with vlc
[00:44] <gregbrady> pajamian, I don't think that k9copy works....
[00:44] <r3n0c> pajamian, -rwxr-xr-x 1 r3n0c r3n0c 291 2008-03-08 19:41 /usr/local/bin/makeZip.sh
[00:44] <nbkr> abortd, Press ctrl-f9
[00:44] <pajamian> gregbrady: it works for me all the time
[00:44] <mrbit> nbkr: how exactly do you use this method to change the password?
[00:44] <gregbrady> pajamian, too bad....
[00:44] <bradley> Jack Sparrow: yes
[00:44] <pajamian> r3n0c: chown root.root
[00:44] <bradley> ill show u what im talking about
[00:44] <dn4> nbkr, would vlc pick up my webcam?
[00:44] <abortd> thanks nbkr
[00:44] <bradley> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8MTAfFhGg
[00:44] <bradley> at around 7 mins
[00:44] <bradley> i need that program
[00:44] <r3n0c> pajamian, ? doesn't work
[00:44] <pajamian> gregbrady: what problem are you having with it?
[00:45] <gregbrady> pajamian, scrambled output
[00:45] <pajamian> r3n0c: that was only part of the command
[00:45] <ctothej> on linux, how can I check the process that is running a specific python script? i want to kill a python script that is running, but more than one instance of python is running and I can't tell the difference.
[00:45] <Pelo> bradley, what does that prog do ?
[00:45] <nbkr> mrbit, I stop the sql server, start it via "mysqld --skip-grant-tables", run mysql, enter the command: "use mysql", enter the command "UPDATE user set PASSWORD = PASSWORD('mynewpass') WHERE User = 'root';
[00:45] <pajamian> gregbrady: did you install libdvdcss?
[00:45] <stefano> where can i set the input method for my webcam?
[00:45] <unwar> Wait, what's he trying to do?
[00:45] <unwar> Sorry, I got in here a little late.
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, system  pref  advanced effects ...  have you enabled the cube..
[00:45] <r3n0c> pajamian,  ok so chown root makeZip.sh
[00:46] <bradley> Pelo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8MTAfFhGg look there at 7 minutes. it allows me to add some stuff in
[00:46] <pajamian> r3n0c: yep, root.root
[00:46] <bluebanana> has anyone here used gyach/gyachi/gyache?
[00:46] <Pelo> bradley, that's ccms or what ever it is called, addvance setting for compiz
[00:46] <gregbrady> pajamian, nope and I don't know where to get it
[00:46] <unwar> Sorry, no.
[00:46] <bluebanana> (a yahoo messenger client for linux)
[00:46] <nbkr> dn4, If the camera is compatible to video4linux, than yes, vlc should do this.
[00:46] <pajamian> gregbrady: medibuntu
[00:46] <unwar> You can use Pidgin, though.
[00:46] <bradley> Jack_Sparrow: sorry look at 6:31
[00:46] <unwar> bluebanana: It works the same way.
[00:46] <r3n0c> pajamian, same problem
[00:46] <pajamian> gregbrady: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[00:46] <pajamian> r3n0c: sudo
[00:47] <unwar> I can help you get set up if you want.
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, I do do flash...
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> dont
[00:47] <bluebanana> unwar: so you use it? Because i have a question regarding voice calls
[00:47] <r3n0c> pajamian,  i mean when i try to run it, i did the command: sudo chown root.root makeZip.sh
[00:47] <mrbit> ok, ill try that nb
[00:47] <mrbit> thanks
[00:47] <gregbrady> pajamian, thanks, I'll check that out
[00:47] <bradley> Pelo look at this video at 6:31 for what im talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8MTAfFhGg
[00:47] <bluebanana> unwar: i was wondering whether gyach* allows me to make PC-to-phone calls
[00:47] <pajamian> r3n0c: and you were in the /usr/local/bin directory?
[00:47]  * Pelo starts singing some old "the Police" song to annoy  Jack_Sparrow 
[00:47] <bluebanana> unwar: I have money on my yahoo voice account.
[00:47] <unwar> Sorry, don't think so.
[00:47] <r3n0c> pajamian,  it runs fine from /usr/local/bin..... i wanna make it work from everywhere
[00:47] <cpk1> r3n0c: you mean chown root:root: somezip.sh?
[00:47] <unwar> Pidgin doesn't, I know that.
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo has a death wish
[00:48] <pajamian> r3n0c: I mean you ran the chown command from there?
[00:48] <cpk1> i mean root:root
[00:48] <r3n0c> pajamian,  yeah, and when i go to the properties of the file it says that root is owner for everything
[00:48] <unwar> Sorry. I'd imagine Yahoo was primarily geared toward Windows users.
[00:48] <pajamian> r3n0c: ok, good
[00:48] <pajamian> r3n0c: echo $PATH
[00:48] <amortvigil> why does my system use so much memory when i have it on a evening : Mem:   2075624k total,  2020872k used,    54752k free,    45200k buffers
[00:48] <Pelo> bradley, the theme thing ?
[00:48] <goxy> @nbkr for example when I type
[00:48] <goxy> svn co  http://somesite-svn.cvsdude.com/somesite/trunk  somesite/
[00:48] <goxy> to checout repo after that server ask me for credentials
[00:48] <goxy> i type them and next time when I need to checkout its no need to reenter credentials but on suse,vector and other distros.Unlike these distros ubuntu always ask me to retype them again and again , how to make ubuntu behave like other distros?
[00:48] <gregbrady> pajamian, sorry I can't seem to figure out how to find and downlad it
[00:49] <bradley> Pelo: yeah, it changes your taskbars i think
[00:49] <jscinoz> I'm trying to create an SSH tunnel as shown by this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN i've set the required settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and i have root on both machines, however when i run "ssh 192.168.1.182 -w 0:0" it connects normal, and no tun devices are created. what am i doing wrong?
[00:49] <MatBoy> what would be the best package to have a rightmousebutton menu as XFCE has ?
[00:49] <r3n0c> pajamian, from /usr/local/bin echo $PATH: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[00:49] <pajamian> gregbrady: goto this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu and follow the directions
[00:49] <Pelo> bradley, right click your desktiop, select , change wallpaper, first tab, pick a theme, hit the cuscomise button at the bottom of the dialog ,
[00:49] <pajamian> r3n0c: it should work from anywhere.
[00:50] <nbkr> goxy, Sounds more like an svn problem than a problem in general. Let me have a look at the svn book.
[00:50] <Pelo> bradley, for the gnome-pannel theme just right clidck the pannel hit properties, second tab,
[00:50] <r3n0c> pajamian,  woot, ok, why don't i have to say 'sh' before the filename anymore?
[00:50] <bradley> Pelo: thats not it, but ill look later
[00:51] <pajamian> r3n0c: because it has the #! and is set +x
[00:51] <pajamian> r3n0c: the #! tells it run the file under that interpreter.
[00:52]  * Pelo is still stuck with that stupid song in his head, thanks a lot Jack_Sparrow 
[00:52] <goxy> @nbkr Im not sure but I think is not svn specific  problem because similar situlation is for ssh login not only foe svn
[00:52] <r3n0c> pajamian, ok, gotcha.  thanks i was kinda wonder'n what the #! was for
[00:52] <pajamian> r3n0c: it's used in scripts that are written in other languages as well...
[00:52] <pajamian> r3n0c: for example a perl script will have: #!/usr/bin/perl
[00:53] <pajamian> r3n0c: and a python script will have #!/usr/bin/python
[00:53] <gregbrady> pajamian, understood and working wonderfully!
[00:53] <pajamian> gregbrady: cool, congrats!
[00:53] <gregbrady> pajamian, thanks!
[00:53] <pajamian> gregbrady: yw
[00:54] <nbkr> goxy - well I'm running serveral distributions here and all of them ask me the ssh passwords if I don't use certificate login.
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, Here is one example   http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoc4.png
[00:55] <Du_Matu> exit
[00:55] <Du_Matu> quit
[00:55] <bradley> right what im trying to do now is get the windows task bar
[00:56] <MatBoy> I can't set backupgrounds per screen on Gnome :S
[00:56] <Pelo> bradley, you want your gnome pannel to look like a windows taskbar ?
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> MatBoy, You can do it on each side of the cube, but you then lose the icons on each desktop
[00:57] <MatBoy> Jack_Sparrow, I have 4 screens... no compiz enabled yet
[00:57] <mandrig> How would I reset all of my ip settings and wireless card data to be like a fresh install?
[00:57] <mrbit> rn: i'm still getting the socket error
[00:57] <mandrig> How would I reset all of my ip settings and wireless card data to be like a fresh install?
[00:57] <bradley> Pelo: yes
[00:57] <mrbit> i've stopped it and did it just the way you asked
[00:57] <Pelo> bradley, how much have you done so far ?
[00:57] <mrbit> i even edited my.cnf to change the sock files
[00:58] <mandrig> How would I reset my ip settings and wireless card drivers to what ubuntu installs?
[00:58] <bradley> Pelo: of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8MTAfFhGg all of it but make my icons the window's one and make the taksbar appear like windows
[00:59] <pajamian> bah, ubotu is down again :-(
[00:59] <patrick> Pidgin won't start for me in Ubuntu 7.10.
[00:59] <goxy> @nbkr so then U think is always need to retype user and password when I login on the server evne on the subsequent logins from one terminal?
[00:59] <patrick> What gives?
[01:00] <pajamian> patrick: works for me
[01:00] <mandrig> How would I reset my ip settings and wireless card drivers to what ubuntu installs?
[01:00] <Starnestommy> patrick: is it showing up in the tray when you try to start iy?
[01:00] <Starnestommy> *it
[01:00] <patrick> Nah.
[01:00] <patrick> It shows up in the taskbar
[01:00] <nbkr> goxy, If you use certificate based login for ssh, than no, otherwise, yes.
[01:00] <patrick> on bottom
[01:00] <Pelo> bradley, so basicaly you are missing a start button and that gone awfull blue bar ? ,  find a screenshot online,  sample the startbutton from it and save it somewhere you can change it in gconf-editor in /apps/pannel/mainmenu ,I beleive,  and you an set the sample for the blue bar by right clicking the pannel  , properties,  second tab,  use picture or someting, bottom of the dialog
[01:00] <patrick> but then closes after a few seconds
[01:00] <stefano_> where can i setup video output preferences? i know there was a dialog for that i just can't find it
[01:00] <pajamian> mandrig: we saw your question the first 5 times you asked it.
[01:00] <kestir> "gone awful"?
[01:00] <kestir> what does that mean?
[01:00] <patrick> Anyone else have this problem?
[01:01] <Pelo> bradley, or yo might want to look in www.gnomelook.org to see if you can'T find an xp theme you can steal from
[01:01] <bradley> Pelo: ok,
[01:01] <Starnestommy> patrick: what happens when you try to start it from the terminal?
[01:01] <patrick> I haven't tried it
[01:01] <pajamian> patrick: run it from the terminal and look at the output
[01:01] <patrick> what's the command?
[01:01] <bradley> Pelo: im trying to use the Vista one btw
[01:01] <mandrig> pajamian: sorry, pidgin was acting up
[01:01] <juanffx> HI, somebody can help me?... Look, when i try to compile in gcc or g++ i get a lot of errors like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58939/
[01:01] <Starnestommy> patrick: pidgin
[01:01] <Nuke_> burning a DVD on a core2duo@3.3GHz, at 2x, with these stats: Cpu(s):  0.7%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.6%id,  4.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[01:01] <kestir> Pelo: not that you care...but the phrase is "god awful"...not "gone awful"
[01:01] <patrick> um
[01:01] <pajamian> patrick: pidgin
[01:01] <patrick> nothing happened
[01:01] <Nuke_> and load is over 1
[01:01] <Nuke_> wtf?
[01:01] <patrick> it just went to the prompt again
[01:01] <Pelo> bradley, go to www.digg.com there was a tutorial to do this a last week , do a search
[01:01] <Nuke_> burning a dvd at 4x makes the system too slow to use. why might this be?
[01:01] <Starnestommy> patrick: try running sudo aptitude reinstall pidgin
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Nuke_, Please stop the rude shorthand
[01:02] <goxy> @ im sure this is not rue because I use vector in dual boot and if I type once login credentials than next time noo need to type them , even applications using ssh can login without retype credentials
[01:02] <Pelo> kestir, it was nice to start with , then it just gone awefull
[01:02] <patrick> k
[01:02] <kestir> Pelo: :D
[01:02] <patrick> k it finished
[01:02] <patrick> run pidgin again?
[01:02] <Prefix100> ..
[01:02] <Starnestommy> yes
[01:02] <patrick> nah, nothing.
[01:03] <goxy> @nbkr im sure this is not rue because I use vector in dual boot and if I type once login credentials than next time noo need to type them , even applications using ssh can login without retype credentials
[01:03] <goxy> but anyway thanks for try to help me
[01:03] <pajamian> patrick: also try renaming the .purple directory
[01:03] <s2a> is everything in ubuntu 64-bit 64-bit (the pre-installed stuff) or some things r 32-bit stuff that work on 64?
[01:03] <bradley> Pelo: thanks
[01:03] <nbkr> goxy, Try it with installing the ssh-agent. That should cache the credentials.
[01:04] <Starnestommy> s2a: I think everything is compiled for 64 bit. but there are some packages that implent 32-bit compatability
[01:04] <MarzOmega> does anyone know if synaptic package manager archives packages to the hard drive, or if there is a way to make it do so.
[01:04] <patrick> There is no .purple directory.
[01:04] <patrick> ?
[01:04]  * Pelo put a new theme together tonight but he doesn'T much care for it , even if it is very classy
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> MarzOmega, Yes it does.. /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:04] <MarzOmega> thanx
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:04] <s2a> Starnestommy, wine for 64-bit only runs 32 bit windows apps?
[01:04] <Starnestommy> s2a: it should
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo,  http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7455/screenshot1hq9.png
[01:05] <patrick> Meh.
[01:05] <patrick> So what should I do?
[01:05] <pajamian> patrick: ask in #pidgin
[01:05] <patrick> k
[01:05] <s2a> Starnestommy, does it also run 64? im just asking out of curiosity
[01:05] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  your current theme ?
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:05] <Starnestommy> s2a: yes
[01:06] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, not bad,  not to my taste but not bad
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, I know really really wrong
[01:06] <pajamian> s2a: the 64 bit version of wine is really 32 bit.
[01:06] <s2a> pajamian, so there is no speed increase?
[01:06] <bradley> how do u change your View Cube thing to a cube again?
[01:07] <pajamian> s2a: wel, last time I checked anyways, I think there's a FAQ on winehq that discusses it, but I am pretty sure that they just packaged up the 32 bit version for 64 bit.
[01:07] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  this is what I currently have  http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturexchatpelo1ubuntuui3.png
[01:07] <bradley> Jack_Sparrow: how do you make your desktop thing a cub again?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo,  I didnt know you were swedish
[01:08] <nhudan> hi every body
[01:08] <goxy> @nbkr I install it not works
[01:08] <pajamian> s2a: I generally recommend that if you are running a workstation and you want to use things such as java, flash, proprietary video codecs, etc, that you install the 32 bit version of ubuntu, even if you have a 64 bit cpu.  There won't be that much speed loss and it will be much more compatible and easier to get things working in.
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley, Scroll back..., take notes etc
[01:08] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, I'm not , what makes you think I am ?
[01:08] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: that was funny
[01:08] <eatatjoes2> hey, i'm new to ubuntu and was wondering if i need antivirus (i know there is no linux viruses, but i run a dual boot with xp)
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, Sarcasm....
[01:08] <bradley> ok, ill look for it
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> HI nickrud
[01:08] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, I never get it
[01:09] <nhudan> tell me please how other computers in local network can see my computer?
[01:09] <patrick> Hey Starnestommy
[01:09] <patrick> look at this
[01:09] <patrick> http://pastebin.com/m5d0a5a88
[01:09] <s2a> pajamian, i alredy have 32-bit installed..im thinking of havign a dual-boot one 64-bit and other 32-bit, its all good since each os can read the other's files without problem and stuff ;)
[01:10] <pajamian> eatatjoes2: there are antivirus programs for Linux but you generally don't need them and they mainly check for windows viruses.  You won't get a virus passed into windows unless you share files you downloaded from ubuntu to windows.
[01:10] <stefano_> i can't watch videos anymore (they're just black screen, but i get sound) - need help
[01:10] <pajamian> s2a: that's cool.
[01:10] <eatatjoes2> pajamian,  thats what i'm concerned with
[01:10] <Starnestommy> patrick: you may want to show that to someone in #pidgin.  They might know what's causing it.
[01:10] <l815> so i just did a live cd with fedora, and the effects + video work just fine with my intel 965, but in ubuntu it doesn't work -_-
[01:10] <pajamian> s2a: when I first installed ubuntu on this computer I installed 64 bit but later changed to 32 bit because of the hassles.
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, I am off to bed, I over did it today...
[01:11] <pajamian> eatatjoes2: if you want antivirus for Linux I hear that clamAV is the way to go.
[01:11] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: see you 'monday'
[01:11] <patrick> k I did, Starnestommy
[01:11] <eatatjoes2> pajamian, okay thanks
[01:11] <patrick> Thanks.
[01:11] <bradley> is there anyway to drag your windows, around the cub?
[01:11] <bradley> *cube?
[01:11] <myconid> Just run AV on the windows desktops.
[01:11] <myconid> its a waste of cpu cycles
[01:11] <Pelo> bradley, just grab it and move it to the side of the screen , the cube should start rolling
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, I was teasing that your page was not in english...  it was obvioulsy not swedish...
[01:12] <pajamian> stefano: did they used to work?
[01:12] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, french
[01:12] <mandrig> Can anyone tell me how to reset my wireless card settings to what ubuntu installs?
[01:12] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, as in french-canadian
[01:12] <bradley> Pelo: i know but, on this one video i saw someone who had the windows spaced in 3d on the cube, when it was roatin
[01:12] <Pelo> mandrig,hve you tried  going into the network thingyand just deleting the info ?
[01:13] <Pelo> bradley, ask in #compiz
[01:13] <Pelo> brb
[01:13] <mandrig> Pelo: I'm not sure what network thingy you're talking about
[01:13] <l815> can anyone explain why my video doesnt work with effects on but it does just fine in fedora?
[01:14] <mandrig> Pelo: I'm not sure what network thingy you're talking about
[01:14] <s2a> pajamian, well i can always stay with 32 bit and resize the 64-bit to minimum for wenever i need it
[01:14] <Pelo> mandrig, in gnome , menu > system > admin > network
[01:14] <Sonja> !scan
[01:14] <Sonja> !scanner
[01:14] <Sonja> how do i scan somethigng? what program should i use?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> l815, HAs to do with hardware identification...  video card or monitor.... one or the other
[01:14] <s2a> pajamian, and ill have gparted for both so i can do everything without needing live cd ;)
[01:14] <tinman> Sonja: wrong channel?
[01:14] <Pelo> !xsane ! Sonja
[01:14] <pajamian> s2a: I thoguht you said dual boot, what you're talking about is virtualization
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja, xsane
[01:14] <Sonja> thanxs
[01:14] <s2a> pajamian, no dual boot
[01:15] <Pelo> is the bot dead ?
[01:15] <Sonja> tinman usually the bot knows all answers
[01:15] <Starnestommy> looks like ubotu still is not working
[01:15] <l815> Jack_Sparrow, i get that, but i skip the check in ubuntu but video doesn't work if i enable compiz
[01:15] <l815> Jack_Sparrow, basically is there another thing that gives some effects that isn't compiz?
[01:15] <dryrot> when I turn on ipmasquerading, i can't ping my local machine anymore.  Why is that?
[01:15]  * Pelo puts ubotu on its charger base
[01:15] <pajamian> s2a: with dual boot you have a choice between one or the other at boot time, you can't "minimize" one of them while workign in the other.
[01:15] <s2a> pajamian, ya i no
[01:15] <tinman> Sonja: i see,^^
[01:15] <s2a> pajamian, im not that stupid
[01:15]  * macrobad также пока что нечем похвастаться: два небольших сайта на заказ, и то только первый почти без динамики.
[01:15] <hischild> hey ... how can i manually remove the atheros hal thing that shows up in restricted driver? i've disabled it there yet it still says it's in use and it's conflicting with my custom drivers
[01:15] <macrobad> oops
[01:15] <Pelo> !ru | macrobad
[01:15] <mandrig> Pelo: I need to delete drivers I've installed and restore the /etc/network/interfaces file to its original state.
[01:15] <pajamian>  <s2a> pajamian, well i can always stay with 32 bit and resize the 64-bit to minimum for wenever i need it
[01:16] <s2a> pajamian, i ment like the partition size
[01:16] <Pelo> mandrig, windows driver on ndiswrapper or linux driver ?
[01:16] <pajamian> s2a: oh, ok, it sounded to me like you were talking about minimizing a window
[01:17] <s2a> pajamian, im trying to do that with xp but thats another story
[01:17]  * drc thinks everyone forgot to read utobu's contract:  para 45.52a.5 clearly states he has weekends off :)
[01:17] <s2a> pajamian, i had it working then now i dont no wat happened and it doesnt work
[01:17] <l815> how can i get the basic minimize & maximize effects without using compiz?
[01:17] <mandrig> I've tried both, and I manually uninstalled the ndiswrapper, but I'm not sure where to uninstall the linux driver
[01:17] <mandrig> pelo
[01:17] <mandrig> ^
[01:17] <hischild> l815, as far as i know, you don't, since they are a part of compiz.
[01:17] <pajamian> s2a: hehehe, yep.  good luck with that, and yes, you should be able to do dual boot, just have a seperate /home partition and share it between both.
[01:18] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsane ! sonja - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <ubotu> macrobad: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[01:18] <pajamian> yipes!
[01:18] <l815> hischild, well i saw an option on mandriva live disk which was mateisse or something, but maybe it's only kde -_-
[01:18] <hischild> lawl ...
[01:19] <macrobad> Ha! Why does it take ubotu 3 minutes to send me a message??
[01:19] <hischild> l815, if you're talking about the real effects ... i think you're talking about compiz ... though there might be other software out there that does the same thing ... just dont know of it =)
[01:19] <Pelo> mandrig, also check hidden folder in your /home folder, see if there is anyting relating to ndiswrapper in there and in synaptic,  uninstall ndiswrapper "completely" it should remove settings,  same for the linux drivers, remvoe those drivers from modprobe
[01:19] <Pelo> mandrig, but I am just guessing here
[01:19] <hischild> hey ... how can i manually remove the atheros hal thing that shows up in restricted driver? i've disabled it there yet it still says it's in use and it's conflicting with my custom drivers
[01:19] <pajamian> macrobad: he's been having problems today.
[01:19] <Starnestommy> macrobad: ubotu is being weird
[01:19] <Starnestommy> er, weirder than usual
[01:19] <pajamian> hehehe
[01:19] <l815> hischild, i don't want all the effects of compiz because i have issues with video if i have it enabled, i just want the basics to make it not so boring lol
[01:20] <hischild> l815, can't you just disable all the effects then? and what kind of issues?
[01:20] <macrobad> ok.. That explains..
[01:20] <l815> hischild, if i play a video the player just closes, if i change the rendering engine to x11, the video quality is horrible
[01:20] <eatatjoes2> does anyone know how to update clamav definitions (i type freshclam and it says they are out of date, but i duno how to update them)
[01:21] <cyphase> Does anyone know if it's possible to make a file "Windows hidden" on a FAT32 partition from Linux?
[01:21] <l815> hischild, were as when i just booted off fedora's cd, the basic effects work out of the box + the video is great with no problems
[01:21] <m3rcin> siema
[01:21] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, man freshclam  there is probably an option you need to use while runnign it as root
[01:21] <juanffx> how can I reinstall all the compilers that came with ubuntu for default?
[01:21] <hischild> l815, i see ...
[01:21] <m3rcin> jest ktos
[01:21] <l815> hischild, just wondering if there are some other options i didn't know about that could fix this
[01:22] <Pelo> cyphase, fat32 doesnT' let you do much,  I would guess not
[01:22] <askvictor> how can I force my CPU to run slower? I have an AM2 4000
[01:22] <gregbrady> how to install kde4 in ubuntu?
[01:22] <Pelo> gregbrady, ask in #kubuntu or in #kde
[01:22] <cyphase> Pelo: then how does Windows make files hidden?
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> gregbrady: i think sudo aptitude install kde
[01:22] <gregbrady> pelo, thanks
[01:22] <Pelo> cyphase, it' an attribute
[01:22] <eatatjoes2> Pelo,  hmm it says that freshclam is the updating command
[01:22] <cyphase> Pelo: ok.. can you set that attribute from Linux?
[01:23] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, run it with sudo
[01:23] <Pelo> cyphase, I don'T think you can
[01:23] <pajamian> cyphase: fat and fat32 use a special flag to indicate hidden that Linux file systems don't have, I don't know of any utils to change that flag in linux.
[01:23] <hischild> askvictor, depends ... does your hardware support it? then it will do that by default using ondemand
[01:23] <icesword> ! info kde-desktop-environment
[01:23] <r3m0t> pajamian: chattr? cyphase
[01:23] <ubotu> Package kde-desktop-environment does not exist in gutsy
[01:23] <cyphase> r3m0t: ?
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> !info kde
[01:23] <ubotu> kde (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:23] <eatatjoes2> Pelo,  it says that clamav is out of date (but i did the "sudo apt-get install clamav" and it says its the newest version
[01:23] <Pelo> icesword, kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <icesword> ohhh
[01:24] <r3m0t> cyphase: there is a command called chattr
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> !info kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[01:24] <pajamian> r3m0t: it's for linux extended file attributes, doesn't work in the windows hidden attribute.
[01:24] <mandrig> Pelo: I'm not sure what to do when it comes to modprobe
[01:24] <r3m0t> oh well
[01:24] <cyphase> r3m0t: that's for ext
[01:25] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, the virus definitions are out of date,  the apps is not ,   man clamav , see if there is an uptade optons such as  clamav -u or someting ,  then run clamav with sudo and the option
[01:25] <hischild> eatatjoes2, have you tried to update clamav-freshclam ?
[01:25] <askvictor> hischild: hardware supports it; but I want to force an upper limit on the CPU speed
[01:25] <Pelo> mandrig, man modprobe, look for the option to remove ,  then run lsmode to see what is listed, find the ones you want to remvoe then type   sudo modeprobe -r modulename ( I says -r but it mgith be someting else)
[01:26] <hischild> askvictor, see if cpudyn or powernowd is installed
[01:26] <hischild> Pelo, command to remove modules is rmmod run as root
[01:26] <Pelo> hischild, tell mandrig
[01:27] <hischild> mandrig, command to remove a module is << rmmod modulename >>
[01:27] <patrick> O hai
[01:27] <Archidiable> bonsoir
[01:27] <mandrig> hischild: how do i find a list of modules, I can't remember the exact name of the module
[01:28] <pajamian> cyphase: you might try using the windows chattr command from wine, I don't know if it will work or not.
[01:28] <Pelo> bonsoir Archidiable , ici c'est un canal en anglais, pour du francais join #ubuntu-fr
[01:28] <hischild> mandrig, type    << lsmod
[01:28] <hischild> mandrig, type    << lsmod | grep partofmodule >>
[01:28] <Roey> Hello
[01:28] <Roey> Quick question:  I have an Intel i945 graphics card.  X mis-detects it, so I fixed /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I changed from "i810" to "intel" driver).  But for some reason, kdm (which starts automatically) does not seem to be following /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  What's wrong here?
[01:28] <eatatjoes2> Pelo,  hmm same problem, not sure whats the problem
[01:28] <Roey> i.e. when I start kdm (on bootup), I get unaccelerated graphics.
[01:29] <yuji_> Anyone know how to deal with my sound issue? It seems like 50% to 100% volume is 0 to 100%. (0 to 50% is silent)
[01:29] <crimsun> Roey: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[01:29] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, got clamtk installed ? it's a gnome gui for clamav
[01:29] <askvictor> hischild: powernowd is installed and running; CPU frequency scaling is active and working, but I want to know how to tweak it
[01:29] <hischild> askvictor, man powernowd should give you all the info
[01:29] <dsmith_> how do I restart alsa?
[01:30] <crimsun> yuji_: should be fixed in latest alsa-driver that I just uploaded to hardy.
[01:30] <askvictor> hischild: cool; thanks
[01:30] <crimsun> dsmith_: meaning unload then reload the driver or meaning reset the volumes?
[01:30] <eatatjoes2> Pelo,  just installed it and it says "must be root to install update signatures"
[01:30] <dsmith_> unload and then reload
[01:30] <hischild> Pelo, did you pm me or .... ?
[01:30] <Roey> crimsun:   oh hey :)
[01:30] <dsmith_> alsa crashs now and then on me
[01:30] <yuji_> crimsun: thank you
[01:30] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, now start it from the command line with   sudo clamtk  and you can update the signatures fomr the menu
[01:31] <mandrig> hischild: So, I can't find anything on my wireless ethernet card
[01:31] <crimsun> dsmith_: if you're not using hardy, there's modprobe+lsmod+awk magic to do it.
[01:31] <Roey> crimsun:   there's nothing to upload... I mean, if I issue 'startx' then it loads the accelerated drivers so I'm assuming it's reading /etc/X11/xorg.conf fine.
[01:31] <eatatjoes2> pelo, it says no virus def. found
[01:31] <dj_> hi, where can i find /etc/modules.conf ?? in alsa they always talk about it, but i cant find that file
[01:31] <crimsun> Roey: have to see your /var/log/Xorg.*.log to confirm/otherwise
[01:31] <mandrig> hischild: wait, I may have
[01:31] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, then your definitions are uptodate
[01:31] <Mr_Bunny_> Can Ubuntu boot off a slave drive, or does it have to boot of the master?
[01:32] <kostkon> dj_, give "locate modules.conf"
[01:32] <hischild> Mr_Bunny_, it can boot of both (i boot of a slave in my case)
[01:32] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, you can now run it as a regular user ,
[01:32] <Roey> crimsun:   ok, I'll do it later then (have some other things to contend with)--thanks though :0
[01:32] <eatatjoes2> Pelo, but it says (0 signatures)
[01:32] <Mr_Bunny_> hischild: ok thanks
[01:32] <hischild> mandrig, what was the problem with your wireless card? and what card do you have?
[01:33] <LinuxMonkey> Mr_Bunny_: can boot of any installed drive, hehehe I even had it boot off a usb drive. lol
[01:33] <Pelo> eatatjoes2, you got the original msg because no updates had been done in a while,  now you did theupdate,  no update was needed ,  you can get back to your life
[01:33] <eatatjoes2> Pelo,  okay thanks
[01:33] <cali_love22> yo
[01:34] <cali_love22> yo
[01:34] <cali_love22> hey whats up my homedogs
[01:34] <mandrig> Pelo: I found the module r8169, but thats my ethernet, not my wireless card
[01:34] <LjL> !ot | cali_love22
[01:34] <ubotu> cali_love22: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:35] <feierfox> boooring!!!
[01:36] <Pelo> mandrig, that's all I have for you , I don'T have a wireless myself,  I was giving you general suggestions to remove stuff , and settings,  you have reached the end of my knowledge on this,  you can also try searching the forum for mor info or continue asking for help here  , www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:37] <hischild> mandrig, what wireless card do you have?
[01:38] <dozr> windows > ubuntu prove me wrong
[01:38] <hischild> dozr, go to offtopic for that
[01:38] <Pelo> dozr, BSOD
[01:38] <dozr> i havent had a bsod in years
[01:38] <dozr> its a myth
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> I had a BSOD in Vista just tghe other day.
[01:38] <hischild> dozr, i had one before i can even finish the install
[01:39] <one_matthias> hi slow screen saver ...
[01:39] <dozr> keyboard chair interface problem
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> BSOD in vista?.. i thought that ws kind of a thing of the past
[01:39] <LinuxMonkey> dozr this not the place to debate Windows vs Linux.
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  yea.. real good 'point' Yea.. sure.. whatever.
[01:39] <Pelo> one_matthias, more info
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak,  i thought so also.. but it did it.
[01:39] <hischild> IndyGunFreak, hah ... not really ... it took me between 5 and 10 minutes to get my first one
[01:39] <dozr> not windows vs linux
[01:39] <Pelo> Dr_Willis,  you have vista ????
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: lol
[01:39] <mandrig> hischild: its a realtek
[01:39] <dozr> windows vs ubuntu
[01:39]  * Pelo starts to cry
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> Pelo,  yes. i have one vista box here.
[01:40] <hischild> mandrig, can you be a bit more specific?
[01:40] <one_matthias> Pelo: i installed some sharing of directories from my linux to an windows computer and now i am stuck with an slow screensaver, i have the matrix saver and it works slowly now ...
[01:41] <hischild> dozr, very well, windows vs ubuntu --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[01:41] <dozr> windows works without havign to jump through hoops while with ubuntu you need to use sudo and all sorts of other silliness
[01:41] <FY1> any recommendations for voice recognition
[01:41] <one_matthias> Pelo: i like to unistall the windows support for sharing of directories in my computer to get back my performance ...
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  yea whatever..
[01:41] <pajamian> cyphase: in case you're still looking, apparently the korn shell has a builtin chmod command that supports changing the windows hidden attribute (chmod -h filename, chmod +h filename).  I would try, "sudo apt-get install korn" and then, "korn -c 'chmod -h filename'"
[01:41] <pppoe_dude> anyone heard of bluecoat?
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> dozr: its not silly at all.
[01:41] <dozr> if its on youtube it must be true
[01:41] <mandrig> hischild: its a Realtek RTL8187B
[01:41] <Pelo> one_matthias, don'T know what to tell you , what do the other screensave look like ? are they regular speed ?
[01:41] <pppoe_dude> oops wrong channel
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> when windows breaks. You are often totally stuck.. when linux breaks - you can pop the 'hood' and tweak the engine. :)
[01:42] <dozr> i havent had any problems with windows that i couldnt fix
[01:42] <mandrig> hischild: I got the card working by following this http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/linux-on-the-satellite-a215-s7407/
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> ive not seen an OS yet that dosent have some issue with somthing
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  that Proves its perfect then.. i guess.
[01:42] <Pelo> one_matthias, I don'T know how you would do that,  except removing samba but you probably don'T want to do that if you still want to communicate with other comps on the network
[01:42] <FY1> !speech regonition
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: noo, MS Windows is perfect!  it does everything perfect!
[01:42] <one_matthias> Pelo:  u use the matrix screen saver on my ubuntu 7.10 and the rain of letter is like jumping and not like raining before i started to mess with file sharing in my network to windows computers
[01:42] <hischild> mandrig, ok. and what is the problem?
[01:42] <FY1> !voice recognition
[01:42] <cyphase> pajamian: thanks. i was just curious, i don't really need it :)
[01:42] <Azodon> there a nvidia ntune type program?? one to adjust / overclock my video card?
[01:42] <LinuxMonkey> !etiquette | dozr
[01:42] <dozr> ubuntu isnt even known enough for most manufacturers to support it
[01:42] <pajamian> cyphase: you got me curious too, which is why I dug around for it.
[01:43] <one_matthias> Pelo: if i have to but i did not install samba but the other one for windows ...
[01:43] <stefano_> where can i change webcam settings?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  you really are rambling on now...
[01:43] <one_matthias> Pelo:  SMB something  as it is named but where to uninstall it ...
[01:43] <Pelo> one_matthias, smb is samba
[01:43] <dozr> you can always find drivers for windows but not for linux
[01:43] <one_matthias> okey than samba for windows ...
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> dozr: why are you here ragging on LInux?.. nobody forces you to sue i.t
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> *use it
[01:43] <one_matthias> Pelo:  okey than samba for windows ...
[01:43] <Pelo> one_matthias, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,  search for samba remvoe the correct pacage , it will be in green
[01:44] <gregbrady> dozr, you may wish to join a windows chat then
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  you are wrong there also. I have many devices with no drivers for vista.  and i have many new devicew with no drivers for 95
[01:44] <pajamian> dozr: not true, when vista came out there was a lot of hardware that wasn't supported on it, still is.
[01:44] <dorijan> has anyone here tried to install unbunto on an ibm xseries lately ? i cant get it to turn off apic at all
[01:44] <dozr> it wouldnt be fun to bash linux there
[01:44] <dozr> they would all agree
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  wrong again.. actually from what ive seen.. they dont all agree
[01:44] <one_matthias> Pelo:  it saya windows networks (SMB) ...
[01:44] <dozr> vista is windows but windows isnt vista
[01:44] <pajamian> LoL
[01:44] <mandrig> hischild: I couldn't get the card to start without cd to the dir the driver was in , the ./wlan0up, so someone told me that using ndiswrapper, they knew how to have the card start on boot. I tried ndiswrapper, but it didn't work, now I want to erase/undo everything I've done to the wireless card and start over.
[01:45] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> IndyGunFreak, if u dont like linux, y r u here?
[01:45] <Pelo> one_matthias, same place , different name,  you remove the same way
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> [Hardy]TuTUXG: ? you really need to properly follow the conversation
[01:45] <gregbrady> dozr, then have fun in your chosen system
[01:45] <pajamian> dozr: then be more specific.
[01:45] <hischild> [Hardy]TuTUXG, dozr started the discussion. if you wish to blame someone, blame him.
[01:45] <hischild> mandrig, i see. give me a second while i read up on it
[01:45] <Les_Caesars> how do I install cross-dependent .deb files?
[01:45]  * Pelo wonders why dozr is still in this channel 
[01:45] <one_matthias> Pelo: the samba is not green ..., i looked for windows but does not find anything there ...
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Pelo,  ops are tired :)
[01:45] <mandrig> hischild: thanks
[01:45] <dorijan> i tried with xxx noapic-- in the boot but still no luck :(
[01:46] <dozr> because it everyone knows im right
[01:46] <dozr> right = might
[01:46] <Pelo> one_matthias, search for smb then
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> dorijan: maybe the alt. install cd?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  actually everyone knows you are wrong and we are laughing at you.
[01:46] <LinuxMonkey> dozr please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, aren't you an opp yet ?
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> dorijan:  and are you sure its an apic issue?
[01:46] <drc> Pelo: The ops are luring him closer so they can shoot him and we can all have troll stew for supper
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lmao, thats a good one...
[01:46] <dozr> nah i want you all to agree that im right
[01:47] <one_matthias> Pelo: okey will do, let me see what i find ...
[01:47] <dorijan> IndyGunFreak quite sure the last thing before the kernel panic
[01:47] <LjL> dozr: i think there *is* something we all agree about you
[01:47] <pajamian> dozr: ever get a USB device, printer, camera, whatever with a big red tag or sticker on the USB port or cable that says, "Make sure to install the software before plugging in this device"?  Well, I get USB devices and plug them into my linux box without installing any special software and they "just work".
[01:47] <gregbrady> dozr, I'll agree if you shut up and move to offtopic
[01:47] <LinuxMonkey> dozr this a support channel not a debate channel.
[01:47] <dorijan> is APIC trying to access CPU 18
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> dozr,  i imagine most all of us have you on ignoer allready
[01:47] <dorijan> while the system only has 4 real cpus
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> dorijan: ok.
[01:47] <LinuxMonkey> LjL:  TY
[01:47] <LjL> and, don't feed the troll
[01:47] <brownie17> hi. i'm trying to install ndiswrapper for a atheros wireless card from a toshiba laptop on an AMD64 system, what i don't understand is where i am supposed to get copies of the actual drivers?
[01:48]  * Pelo gives LjL  a cookie 
[01:48] <one_matthias> Pelo:  i did not find anything there either, well let it be and hope to find it later in some other way ...
[01:48] <pajamian> yeah, I know, don't feed the troll, it's so tempting, though, heh
[01:48]  * LinuxMonkey pets LjL 's pet troll
[01:48] <one_matthias> Pelo:  do you have experiance with bluetooth ?
[01:48] <patrick> Holy s
[01:48] <Pelo> brownie17, from your windows install or from the driver disk, or even fromt eh maker's website
[01:48] <dorijan> i tried almost all modes so far apic=off / noapic / both of them but always the same
[01:48] <patrick> I just found an alien
[01:48] <patrick> http://www.justin.tv/firwgn
[01:48] <Pelo> one_matthias, none what so ever
[01:48] <dozr> where was i
[01:48] <brownie17> Pelo, oh they can be extracted from a windows driver? thankyou very much
[01:48]  * Pelo doesn'T like all this fancy technology stuff
[01:49] <dozr> so ubuntu is full of fail
[01:49] <one_matthias> Pelo:  ?
[01:49] <vadim> I am running ubuntu on VMware and I would like to make the console bigger; how can I do it?
[01:49] <hischild> mandrig, ok. so you want to remove the ndiswrapper?
[01:49] <Pelo> brownie17, ndiswrapper is so you can use windows drivers in linux , specificaly for wireless
[01:49] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega?
[01:49] <hischild> LjL, thank you
[01:49] <dorijan> Kernel panic - not syncing : Inquiring remote APIC #18 - failed, Version: failed CPU #18 not responding cannot use it. SMP alteranatives: switching to SMP code and then the Kernel Panic as last statement
[01:49] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega?
[01:49] <brownie17> Pelo, okay thankyou
[01:49] <LjL> !br | twilker
[01:49] <Pelo> twilker, para ajuda en espanol   #ubuntu-es
[01:49] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega?
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: ubotu is apparently on vacation
[01:50] <Pelo> twilker, portuges #ubuntu-pr
[01:50] <mandrig> hischild: I've already removed ndiswrapper, but I think in installing ndis, it messed up the driver I previously installed.
[01:50] <LjL> !test
[01:50] <prince_jammys> twilker: #ubuntu-br
[01:50] <Pelo> LjL, the bot is dead
[01:50]  * Dr_Willis gives !cpr to the bot.
[01:50]  * IndyGunFreak tells LJL, in place of ubotu, that he failed
[01:50] <LinuxMonkey> yea ubotu feed the trolls and got eaten
[01:50] <pajamian> LjL: ubotu's been flaky most of the day
[01:50] <hischild> mandrig, ok. Does executing the following command   << lsmod
[01:50] <one_matthias> Pelo:  thank you anyway ...
[01:50] <prince_jammys> twilker: o #ubuntu-pt para habler en portugues
[01:50]  * Pelo hides ubotu 's batteries under his desk
[01:50] <one_matthias> nobody have been digging into bluetooth ?
[01:50] <hischild> mandrig, ok. Does executing the following command   << lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[01:50] <hischild> >> give you a result?
[01:51] <Turel> hey i have a big problem while ubuntu loading gives this error : apt not found you can instal it by typing : apt-get install apt
[01:51] <Les_Caesars> how do I install cross-dependent deb files?
[01:51] <cheeseboy> (chroot) debian / # grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda
[01:51] <cheeseboy> /dev/ROOT: Not found or not a block device.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Les_Caesars,  dpkg -i whateber.deb
[01:51] <cheeseboy> how i fix that?
[01:51] <mandrig> hischild: no.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Turel: hmm, that would seem to be quite an issue...
[01:51]  * LinuxMonkey hands pelo a battery tester and says try that
[01:51] <zcat[1]> !moo
[01:51] <Pelo> Turel, I usualy clean instal when I get that, wich is not often
[01:51] <pajamian> Turel: that's a problem alright
[01:51]  * IndyGunFreak agrees with Pelo Turel 
[01:51] <hischild> mandrig, then ndiswrapper has been succesfully removed. Do you remember by chance wether you installed restricted drivers?
[01:51] <Les_Caesars> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:51] <Turel> IndyGunFreak : it broken while ubuntu update itself :(
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> i've never had that happen
[01:52] <zcat[1]> no ubout?
[01:52] <zcat[1]> err
[01:52] <pajamian> Turel: I suppose you can grab the package for apt and install it with dpkg
[01:52] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega? em portugues!
[01:52]  * zcat[1] needs c0ffee
[01:52] <Turel> pajamian : how can i do it ?
[01:52] <pajamian> Turel: ummmm ...
[01:52]  * hischild gives zcat[1] coffee
[01:52] <one_matthias> Pelo: is there another place to look for remove stuff than in synt ... and add remove programs ...
[01:53] <mandrig> hischild: for my graphics card, yes. did you read the page I sent you earlier? I downloaded and installed a modded driver for my wireless card.
[01:53] <Turel> pajamian : i have setup cd can i do it with it ?
[01:53] <pajamian> Turel: ask the tough questions why don't-cha? ;-)
[01:53] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega? emportugues!
[01:53] <hischild> mandrig, are you talking about the ndiswrapper page you send me? or another one? the other one i haven't received, the ndiswrapper one i have
[01:53] <one_matthias> Pelo: synaptic and add/remove progams
[01:53] <pajamian> Turel: yes, it should be on there, you can also download the newer one from the internet, let me find it, one min...
[01:53] <zcat[1]> ubotu is dead? sleeping?
[01:53] <Pelo> one_matthias, you can do it from the command line with  sudo apt-get remove packagename   if you know the package name,  I recommend you find the gude you used to get it intall in the first place and reverse the command
[01:53] <mandrig> hischild: It wasn't on ndiswrapper.
[01:53] <zcat[1]> ahh, no.. alive :)
[01:53] <LjL> twilker: mas tu les lo que la gente de dice o que? escribe /join #ubuntu-br para falar portugues
[01:53] <twilker> alguem sabe quais os modens que o ubuntu pega? em portuguse
[01:54] <Turel> pajamian aww so thnx
[01:54] <mandrig> hischild: let me find it again.
[01:54] <one_matthias> Pelo: okey, thank you
[01:54] <jstritar> Anyone know if you can ssh through a machine's ssh tunnel (sort of like a transative ssh?)?
[01:54] <zcat[1]> I guess ubotu doesn't have super cow powers.. no repsonse to !moo
[01:54] <infbliss> Is there a way to install applications into my home directory. This way I need not reinstall applications when I go to another machine. I can just copy my home directory and I will be done.
[01:54] <askvictor> jstritar: yes you can
[01:54] <hischild> mandrig, are you talking about this page? ---> http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html
[01:54] <zcat[1]> jstritar: in both directions, yes
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> infbliss: i believe most apps install in your home directory
[01:55] <LjL> infbliss: no
[01:55] <jstritar> askvictor, A -> B and B-> C and I'm trying to ssh A -> C
[01:55] <mandrig> hischild: no, http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/linux-on-the-satellite-a215-s7407/
[01:55] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: on what system?
[01:55] <one_matthias> Pelo: i got that question when i selected "share" on that particular directory  ...
[01:55] <pajamian> Turel: gutsy?
[01:55] <Turel> 7.10
[01:55] <infbliss> LjL: is it possible to force apt-get to install applications on my home directory
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: i was thinking most of them did for some reason.. well if they don't, then whats the advantage of putting /home ona  separate partition?
[01:55] <pajamian> Turel: and 32 bit or 64?
[01:55] <LjL> infbliss: no
[01:55] <Turel> 32
[01:55] <zcat[1]> I have a friend who ssh's to my machine and creates a tunnel back through the ssh session so I can connect to his machine.. port forwarding is too much effort :)
[01:55] <infbliss> LjL: ty
[01:55] <brohke1> hello, im having trouble controlling my brightness on my laptop. i have a ibm t61. can someone please help me out. im so frustrated :(
[01:56] <LjL> IndyGunFreak, you got it completely backwards... APT installs everything *outside* of your home directory and *never* touches it. your home directory is almost the *only* thing that you're supposed to touch manually.
[01:56] <mandrig> brohke1: system>prefs>power management
[01:56] <askvictor> jstritar: I don't quite understand; you can ssh from A to B and from B to C but not from A to C?
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: yeah, i';m realizing that now...
[01:56]  * Pelo edges away from IndyGunFreak , just in case
[01:57] <jstritar> askvictor, B is connect to C over a vpn. I'd like to have B forward A's ssh to C
[01:57] <LjL> !test
[01:57] <mandrig> !test
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> ubotu: failed
[01:57] <LjL> mandrig, one test is more than enough
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[01:57] <jstritar> askvictor, as if C was on A's network
[01:57] <hischild> mandrig, << lsmod | grep r8187 >> does that give you an output?
[01:57] <geirha> infbliss: it wouldn't be a good idea anyway. If the application you installed in your homedir depended on a library the other computer doesn't have, it wouldn't work anyway
[01:58] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[01:58] <Ashfire908> ok so i've been away from by computer for awhile, and when i got back the system was locking up and i got a noticce about too many file open, and yeah the system isn't working. (though i don't ant to kill the system i want to know what happened and recover nicely)
[01:58] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[01:58] <ubotwo> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:58] <s2a> "Your CPU does not support long mode. Use a 32-bit distribution." y cant i run 64-bit live cd in 32-bit host os?
[01:58] <hischild> s2a, correct
[01:58] <askvictor> jstritar: from machineA do:  ssh -L 10022:machineC:22 machineB
[01:59] <s2a> hischild, wat?
[01:59] <Turel> pajamian : are u there ?
[01:59] <theTrav> I'm trying to set up a subversion repo on my server, following an online guide.  The guide tells me to use htpasswd2 but when I run it it says command not found.
[01:59] <hischild> s2a, it's like trying to carry 2 liter of water in a 1 liter bottle .... can't be done because it wants to much
[01:59] <theTrav> which module is htpasswd2 a part of?
[01:59] <s2a> hischild, that wasnt a statement that was a question
[01:59] <pajamian> Turel: yep, one min
[01:59] <Turel> pajamian : k brother. waiting u!!
[01:59] <jstritar> askvictor, then I can ssh from A->C via machineC port 10022?
[01:59] <s2a> hischild, so i cant do it?!
[01:59] <askvictor> jstritar: once that's done, then from machineA you can "ssh -p 10022 localhost" which will get you to straight to machine C
[01:59] <jstritar> oh, localhost
[01:59] <hischild> s2a, yes it cant be done
[01:59] <jstritar> ok cool
[01:59] <theTrav> hmm... I do seem to have a command called htpasswd
[01:59] <jstritar> askvictor, i'll try it out
[02:00] <theTrav> would that be equivalent?
[02:00] <s2a> hischild, :( k, thx
[02:00] <mandrig> LjL: I didn't see your test while I was doing mine... Sorry
[02:00] <brohke1> mandrig: it doesnt work
[02:00] <askvictor> jstritar: that command opens port 10022 on machine A and forwards it via machine B to machine C's port 22
[02:00] <pajamian> Turel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/i386/apt/download
[02:00] <mandrig> brohke1: I'm not sure what to do then, sorry
[02:00] <pajamian> download from a mirror near you
[02:00] <pajamian> Turel: and then install with dpkg
[02:01] <geirha> Ashfire908: you wouldn't happen to be out of space? "df -h"
[02:01] <hischild> gotta go :( see you all later
[02:01] <jstritar> askvictor, ahh. i always get confused as to which host and port is what for -L
[02:01] <pajamian> Turel: hopefully you won't have to resolve dependancies, heh
[02:01] <askvictor> jstritar: me too :)
[02:02] <Lando-SpacePimp> Hey people
[02:02] <Lando-SpacePimp> did you know
[02:02] <LjL> !test
[02:02] <Lando-SpacePimp> That the guy that made ubuntu
[02:02] <Lando-SpacePimp> Went into space
[02:02] <ubotwo`> Fbiled.
[02:02] <LjL> !ot > Lando-SpacePimp    (Lando-SpacePimp, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:02] <LjL> !enter > Lando-SpacePimp    (Lando-SpacePimp, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:02] <Jeed> the guy that made freenode is dead
[02:02] <Pelo> Lando-SpacePimp, we know , where did you think ubuntu came from ?
[02:02] <LjL> !etiquette > jeed    (jeed, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:03] <Pelo> Jeed, realy ? that is very sad ,  so did the guy who invented dungeon an dragon
[02:03] <jester7> anyone have any experience with the ubuntu laptops from dell?
[02:03] <jstritar> askvictor, nice.. works perfect
[02:03] <LjL> Pelo, don't feed... please
[02:03] <jstritar> thanks
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, the guy who made ubuntu went into space?
[02:03] <Pelo> LjL, sigh
[02:03] <pajamian> jester7: kinda, why?
[02:03] <Jeed> hey, what did i do, its a fact, he died in an accident on his bike, hit by a car :/
[02:03] <LjL> Lando-SpacePimp: you've had your warnings
[02:03] <Turel> pajamian thnx a lot i will try it now :)
[02:03] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, Mark Shuttleworth is a south affrican astronaut
[02:03] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to ask this sort of a question but here goes:  How do I know what vga modes are available so that I can increase the resolution of my CLI (cmd line interface / CTRL+ALT+(F1-F7))
[02:03] <pajamian> Turel: good luck
[02:04] <Turel> pajamian : see u later with my ubuntu :)
[02:04] <Ashfire908> geirha, i don't think so. i've been able to get it so i can run commands through xchat. alsa apparently froze again, and the aplay processes spawned by xchat opened too many files and when alsa freezes aplay also frezzes and neither respond to any signals...
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: really?.. i didn't know that
[02:04] <jester7> i just ordered a refurb....its gonna come with windows but it's the same specs as the ubuntu one.  any issues with it?
[02:04] <LjL> !ot | IndyGunFreak, Pelo
[02:04] <ubotwo`> IndyGunFreak, Pelo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:04] <Ashfire908> (i know most of this from experence)
[02:04] <brohke1> can someone help me upgrade to the latest nvidia driver? im currently using 100.14.19
[02:04] <pajamian> jester7: my mom got one, she has problems with the touchpad, other than that no.
[02:04] <brohke1> dont know how to do this in linux
[02:05] <Nyto> can someone help me with Mana world
[02:05] <jester7> pajamian: what kind of problems?
[02:06] <pajamian> jester7: it doesn't sense a "tap" all the time, sometimes she has to tap two or three times for it to sense it.
[02:06] <pajamian> jester7: I don't think that's the case with all of them, I think she got a defective one.
[02:06] <Nyto> I change one of the settings in mana world to OpenGL and everytime I open it the screen is black. Can some tell me how to change it back?
[02:06] <LjL> !test
[02:06] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[02:06] <geirha> Ashfire908: hm, sounds like a bug with xchat then. Does it lock up like taht when you're not running xchat?
[02:07] <mgreenly> pajamian: some how I think that problem is connected to flash... the only time my touchpad does that is when I'm on youtube etc..
[02:07] <pajamian> mgreenly: it does that to her for everything, not related to flash at all for her.
[02:07] <Ashfire908> geirha, it's alsa, not xchat itself, but it's caused by xchat's use of aplay.
[02:08] <Ashfire908> is there a way to reset the entire sound system (all the way down to the kernel(?))?
[02:09] <Pelo> Ashfire908, restinall alsa ?
[02:09] <Pelo> !sound | Ashfire908
[02:09] <ubotwo> Ashfire908: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:09] <allorder> Hi everyone, I always get this error when X crash: gdm[11930]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0  any ideas ?
[02:09] <jester7> pajamian: ok, cool. that's not too bad
[02:09]  * Pelo thinks that ubotwo guy is just a poser and he wouldn't trust his advice
[02:10] <pajamian> jester7: just remember it's a dell, they're not known for their reliability, heh.
[02:10] <Pelo> allorder, do a forum search for that error msg  , www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:10] <s2a> wats that app in the repositories that makes .debs insted of compiling thats an easier process
[02:10] <Ashfire908> i don't have the menu right now... or firefox, aplay is running (more like frozen permently) with too many files open.
[02:10] <Ashfire908> reset as in reload, not reinstall
[02:10] <blackhole82> I was wondering if anyone could help me with importing videos to a PSP.
[02:10] <bruenig> exporting*
[02:10] <LjL> s2a: i think you're thinking of checkinstall, however that doesn't save you from compiling at all, and is unsafe in some circumstances
[02:10] <LjL> !checkinstall > s2a    (s2a, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:10] <Pelo> Ashfire908, kill the process restart x
[02:11] <s2a> LjL, ya i was! thank u!
[02:11] <geirha> Ashfire908: are you able to switch to a console with CTRL+ALT+F1 ? you might be able to kill or kill -9 the problematic processes from there
[02:11] <brohke1> can someone help me upgrade to the latest nvidia driver? im currently using 100.14.19
[02:11] <pajamian> s2a: if you need to compile from source I've found it best to just go the route of compile and install myself, if done properly it's easy to manage.
[02:11] <brohke1> dont know how to do this in linux
[02:11] <Pelo> !nvidia | brohke1
[02:11] <ubotwo> brohke1: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <blackhole82> can anyone help me with importing videos to a PSP?
[02:12] <Ashfire908> geirha, when this happenes alsa and aplay do not respond to any signals (i mean any, i tried every kill and terminate signal)
[02:12] <s2a> pajamian, ive never compiled, this time it was my first attempt with sum1 on msn but it dint work cuz im trying to compile 64-bit stuff on 32-bit
[02:12] <s2a> how do i compile with checkinstall?
[02:12] <Pelo> blackhole82, try searching in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:12] <SpookyET> Stupid question. I can't remember my swap partition. It's sda2 or sda5. How can I find out without installing anything or booting PartedMagic?
[02:12] <kraypius>  im having a problem. One of my processor cores is at 100% usage. How do i pinpoint the offending process?
[02:13] <Jgonick> Jack_Sparrow:  Done.. The install went flawlessly.  I decided not to wait until later.  Once again thanks for the answers earlier..
[02:13] <kraypius>  nm found it
[02:13] <Pelo> s2a, sudo make checkinstall after you make install
[02:13] <blackhole82> Pelo, I have
[02:13] <Pelo> blackhole82, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[02:13] <s2a> kraypius, system->administration->system monitor
[02:13] <pajamian> s2a: you hve a program that *has* to be compiled as 64 bit?
[02:13] <gregbrady> kraypius, was if firefox?
[02:13] <kraypius> no, its mysqld
[02:13] <geirha> SpookyET: sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[02:13] <kraypius>  which i dont understand
[02:13] <s2a> pajamian, ya my driver for my dial-up modem, very important ;)
[02:14] <gregbrady> kraypius, hmmm, it's usually firefox on my machines
[02:14] <pajamian> s2a: I've never heard of anything like it.  why on earth would a manufacturer write a driver that can only be compiled as 64 bit?
[02:15] <Starnestommy> pajamian: because the device uses 64-bit registers?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, Glad it went well.. welcome to ubuntu
[02:15] <s2a> pajamian, i have the 32-bit version as a .deb but they dont want to make a .deb for the 64-bit version insted they want ppl to compile it so, if i want to move to 64-bit i need this
[02:15] <pajamian> s2a: ok, well since you're dual booting I would say boot to 64 bit and compile in there.
[02:16] <s2a> pajamian, i have no internet access in there and i wouldnt be able to get my help
[02:17] <cpk1> s2a: then just chroot into it
[02:17] <s2a> any1 here have 64-bit os to compile my modem driver plz?
[02:17] <zcat[1]> hmm, progress .. I just set a process limit of 100 processes per user and the box now survives :(){ :|:& };:
[02:17] <pajamian> s2a: yep, you'll have to go back and forth.  To be honest, I don't think it will compile with chkinstall either.
[02:17] <Ashfire908> ok i forget who was i talking to a sec ago?
[02:17] <cpk1> s2a: you can cross compile as well...
[02:17] <Darkmystere> If i remove Automatix and Envy will anything mess up?
[02:18] <Pelo> s2a, we generaly tell ppl to use 32bit , it is less troublesome
[02:18] <Darkmystere> Reason im asking this Ubuntu im on came with those scripts...i didnt choose to install so can i remove em>
[02:18] <s2a> cpk1, i attempted and failed and it even warned me that it is likely to fail
[02:18] <s2a> Pelo, well this is my only problem
[02:18] <cpk1> s2a: so chroot into your 64 bit enviroment and compile from there?
[02:19] <norty> can you do symbol manipulation using matlab? i want to reduce a complicated expression into it's simpiliest form..?
[02:19] <s2a> cpk1, chroot? wats that?
[02:19] <zcat[1]> finally played with wubi today.. looks pretty easy
[02:19] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i did ctrl alt backspace but i'm only able to login with failsafe terminal
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, If you used those your system is already hosed up
[02:19] <Pelo> Darkmystere, removing automatix and envy will not mess anyting up , they just install packages taht are not in the regular repos
[02:19] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  try rebooting then
[02:19] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, it's not that bad
[02:19] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, Pelo, Err....can one of you agree with the other :P
[02:20] <cpk1> s2a: lets enter into a different enviroment, you can be on your 32bit install and then chroot into your 64bit install and you will be treated like you are running from the 64bit enviroment in that terminal
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, What version of ubuntu came with those.. clearly NOT one of the Ubuntu supported versions
[02:20] <zcat[1]> if automuntix has been installed but never run, there should be no issue with removing it again, right?
[02:20] <pajamian> !automatix | Darkmystere
[02:20] <ubotwo> Darkmystere: Automatix2 is third-party product which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:20] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, Ubuntu Ultimate
[02:20] <cpk1> !chroot
[02:20] <ubotwo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:20] <Ashfire908> Pelo: every time in the past i had to resort to holding the power button. i want to learn how to recover from this error
[02:20] <s2a> cpk1, !!! how do i do that?
[02:20] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, Ubuntu Ultimate 1.7 Gusty Based
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, Not supported in here...
[02:20] <cpk1> that should work the other way around I assume
[02:20] <daaku> anyone know how one would go about giving someone ssh access without shell/scp access? (i just want them to be able to proxy through me using the built in socks proxy)
[02:20] <Pelo> Darkmystere, envy and automatix just gui apps that make it easier for you to install stuff that doesnT' come with ubuntu,  we generaly don't trust then because they cause problems in the way they install things,  removing them will not cause problem,  using them might
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, Post your sources.list.. those may have been used during the install and the damage is done.. either way  not supported in here
[02:21] <s2a> cpk1, how do i do that?
[02:21] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I can't help you there, can you restate the nature of the problem in more details so I can see if I get it ?
[02:21] <brohke1> guys im trying to upgrade to the latest nvidia drivers, the wiki article doesnt help me because it uses the drivers available through the synaptic pack manager
[02:21] <dj_> i start hating alsa
[02:21] <gregbrady> Is there a way to sync up with a win CE pocket pc?
[02:21] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, i have two Ubuntu install one i installed with Ubuntu Live CD Downloaded from official site this one im testing i havent used Automatix or Envy i installed all i needed via synaptics and Apt-get i have no idea how to use either of the others
[02:21] <brohke1> i need to upgrade to the latest one using the newest nvidia .run package
[02:22] <brohke1> please help
[02:22] <pajamian> daaku: not sure, it may work to set their shell to /bin/false
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, Please post your sources list
[02:22] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, Directory of sources.lst
[02:22] <zcat[1]> Darkmystere: yes, you should uninstall automatix and envy ASAP...
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> /etc/apt
[02:23]  * Pelo thinks Jack_Sparrow  is a little tired 
[02:23] <cpk1> s2a: the !chroot link can probably be applied to work the other way around, either way you will need to do some reading
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, and by post I mean to the pastebin. not in the channel
[02:23] <jbrouhard> Darkmystere, just copy/paste the readout of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' to pastebin, then give Jack_Sparrow  the link :)
[02:23] <jbrouhard> ROFL
[02:23] <sfears> i'm having some problems with dual monitors.. can anyone lend some knowledge.. i use the screens&graphics gui but it always puts the main monitor where i want the secondary & it won't allow resolution more than 600x800
[02:23] <Ashfire908> Pelo: the problem is that alsa for whatever reason broke, which broke aplay, which then after loading the file to play, hangs, and ignores any attempt to kill it. alsa also does not respond to the disable/reload/restart init.d scripts, which then also refuse to kill.
[02:23] <jbrouhard> *gives Jack_Sparrow a dollar
[02:23] <s2a> cpk1, it isnt like one command?!
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jbrouhard, Thanks.
[02:23] <Darkmystere> jbrouhard, Im already doing that Jack_Sparrow, calm down im doing it ok..
[02:24] <Pelo> Ashfire908, ic,  and sudo killall -0 aplay does nothing ?
[02:24] <Pelo> Ashfire908, ic,  and sudo killall -9 aplay does nothing ?
[02:24] <Pelo> or is it -19 &
[02:24] <Pelo> ?
[02:24] <zcat[1]> -9 works for me :)
[02:25] <daaku> pajamian: lemme try that - seems like it should work [not sure what it'll do for scp]
[02:25] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58946/
[02:25] <freelancer317> gregbrady  Yes   look at this link for more info http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceWithUbuntu
[02:25] <zcat[1]> fuser -k /dev/dsp is something I use occasionally too
[02:25] <Pelo> thanks zcat[1] I never use it ,  I always forget which it is
[02:25] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i've tried that before, and basiclly every other core dump or terminal signal, but i'll try again anyway.
[02:26] <jbrouhard> damn, Darkmystere that's a big list
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, Yep, unsupported repos..
[02:26] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, some of them i added my self..
[02:26] <Pelo> Ashfire908, make sure aplay is the actual name of the process
[02:26] <Ashfire908> Pelo: nothing
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, You are currently on ultimate... correct
[02:26] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  read up one line
[02:26] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, none where added by envy nor automatix some are for Ubuntu ultimate..
[02:27] <Ashfire908> Pelo: it is. there is like over a thousand of them. hard to miss.
[02:27] <Pelo> Ashfire908, hmmm
[02:27] <pajamian> daaku: I know it will stop them from being able to log into a shell, I don't know if it will break anything else for them.
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Darkmystere, Correct, Ultimate install uses automatix..which adds unsupported repos.. which is why we ask ultimate uses to go to their channel for support
[02:27] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, Si senor
[02:27] <theTrav> ok, got auth working for my svn server, now I'm having trouble with some other permissions.  I think it's file permissions for the apache user as my svn repo is in /svn
[02:27] <Pelo> Ashfire908, if there are over 1k or them ,give it a few mintutes for all of them to be killed
[02:28] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  is aplay dependent on anything ?
[02:28] <theTrav> how do I assign full access to that folder to the apache user and any other folders that get created in there?
[02:28] <s2a> is it true that debian doesnt have dependencies like ubuntu?
[02:28] <theTrav> will chmod settings be applied to any sub folders that get created?
[02:28] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  what is aplay anyway ?
[02:28] <zcat[1]> s2a: umm no?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> s2a, Not true in the least
[02:28] <s2a> zcat[1], o
[02:28] <Pelo> theTrav, they should
[02:29] <theTrav> is there any way to apply chmod recursively?
[02:29] <Ashfire908> pelo: idk. they are not ending, the total about of processes is not changing, and no new ones are being spawned
[02:29] <theTrav> like, to everything in a folder?
[02:29] <nox-Hand> Erm, anyone help me figure out why my system randomly went read-only right now?
[02:29] <theTrav> and sub folders?
[02:29] <Darkmystere> Jack_Sparrow, i barley use this im a full Ubuntu 7.10 and i dont know that IRC Channel...
[02:29] <Starnestommy> theTrav: chmod -R mode directory
[02:29] <theTrav> thanks Starnestommy
[02:29] <Ashfire908> Pelo: a program that plays a sound file using alsa.
[02:29] <Pelo> Ashfire908, how are you looking at those processes ? top or system monitor ?
[02:29] <chemical> After being a linux user for 8 months now
[02:29] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i don't know much about it besides what it does
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand, When an error is detected it sets read only
[02:29] <chemical> this is my question?
[02:30] <daaku> pajamian: it seems to work - no shell or scp access. thanks!
[02:30] <Pelo> Ashfire908, what triggers it ? what sound files,  is this an event thing ?
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> theTrav; i do the same thing with apache2.. when you add new content/subfolders you'll have to chmod and chown them..
[02:30] <pajamian> daaku: yw
[02:30] <nox-Hand> Jack_Sparrow: Roger, so I should just reboot and hope it works then? :)
[02:30] <Ashfire908> pelo: top. i don't think system monitor will work...
[02:30] <chemical> why not choose Ubuntu and not other distros?
[02:30] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i have no clue.
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[02:30] <ubotwo> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[02:30] <Pelo> Ashfire908, how is aplay started ?
[02:30] <theTrav> rockin, I've got a working SVN repo on my home server
[02:30] <theTrav> WIN!
[02:31] <Ashfire908> Pelo: it seems to happen randomly. aplay is spawned by xchat for when it plays a sound
[02:31] <bastid_raZor> theTrav; i have a script that does this but i still have to run it everytime i add new content to directories for apache
[02:31] <nox-Hand> chemical: If you need to get ultimate speed, you should have custom compiled software, so Gentoo would be better there. There are numerous situations where Ubuntu is not the best. Why do you ask?
[02:31] <Pelo> chemical, no special reasons  various distros are made with different users in mind,  ubuntu is intended to be simple freindly and a general all purpose distro, it's a very good place to start if you are getting into linux
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> chemical, Sorry but that discussion belongs in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <Pelo> Ashfire908, what are those sounds ?  stuff ppl send you  ?  alerts ? are you using xchat to play music ?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand, Dont troll for Gentoo
[02:32] <chemical> well i'm an ubuntu user ,i've choosed ubuntu for speed cause suse was thmy first distro
[02:32] <chemical> ubuntu has it all
[02:32] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  kill xchat
[02:32] <chemical> it's freindly foe users
[02:32] <nox-Hand> Jack_Sparrow: I am not trolling for GEntoo, I use Ubuntu, it was just the first example I could think of
[02:32] <chemical> and fast
[02:32] <nox-Hand> chemical: As said, this discussion is NOT for here --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <Ashfire908> Pelo: uh, it was killed when i restarted x witht he key combo
[02:32] <chemical> and if you want to sind out more about linux you can use the konsole
[02:33] <chemical> to find sorry
[02:33] <chemical> ok sorry didn't know that
[02:33] <Pelo> chemical, this is more of a trouble shooting channel, we try to help ppl solve their various issues
[02:33] <chemical> sorry again
[02:33] <Pelo> chemical, no problem
[02:34] <Pelo> chemical, this might help  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:34] <geirha> Ashfire908: see what it hangs on with: strace <pid of aplay>
[02:34] <fismoll8> hey guys is there a partitioning tool out there that isn't graphical
[02:34] <fismoll8> gparted is just too slow; I'd rather do things from the terminal anyways
[02:34] <nirgle> crontab isn't installed by default, what's the package name?  crontab doesn't seem to work
[02:34] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  and all those aplay processes are still there ?
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> fismoll8, mkfs ?
[02:34] <nickrud> fismoll8: I like cfdisk
[02:34] <zcat[1]> fismoll8: fdisk
[02:34] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  I would suggest you try purging xchat and installing it again
[02:34] <Ashfire908> pelo: yes
[02:34] <zcat[1]> never used cfdisk.. what's the difference?
[02:35]  * nickrud hexes fdisk except for info
[02:35] <fismoll8> yeah, fdisk looks nice
[02:35] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  but you'll hve to reboot to kill all those aplay processes
[02:35] <nickrud> zcat[1]: ncurses interface
[02:35] <zcat[1]> cool... hafta give it a spin
[02:35] <Pelo> nirgle, crontab is installed by default
[02:35] <fismoll8> and is there any difference between ext2 and ext3
[02:35] <Ashfire908> pelo: (these answers are out of order) ok one sec i'll run that trace thing
[02:35] <nirgle> i thought so too.. but i can't find it
[02:35] <zcat[1]> fismoll8: journalling
[02:35] <geirha> nirgle: and cron is the package name
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fismoll8, journaling
[02:35] <Ashfire908> Pelo, it's alsa and aplay, not xchat.
[02:35] <fismoll8> is that a big deal
[02:35] <nirgle> perfect, thanks
[02:35] <pajamian> fismoll8: yes, they are different file systems
[02:36] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I thought you said that aplay were sounds started by xchat ,  I suggest you rsinatll xchat ,
[02:36] <zcat[1]> etx3 is ext2 + a journal.. you can mount ext3 as ext2 in a pinch..
[02:36] <darkblue_B> on my Ubuntu 7.10 box, how do I add a cron job that runs with sudo privs?
[02:36] <fismoll8> hmmm, and what about reisefs
[02:36] <darkblue_B> (its for awffull which writes to /var/www/awffull)
[02:36] <fismoll8> er, reiserfs
[02:36] <Pelo> Ashfire908, ofcourse aplay will use alsa to play the sounds,  alsa is the sounddevice manager thingy
[02:36] <nickrud> darkblue_B:   sudo crontab -e
[02:36] <zcat[1]> reiserfs is totally different!
[02:36] <pajamian> fismoll8: journalling is a big deal, I wouldn't recommend a filesystem without it.
[02:36] <Pelo> darkblue_B, sudo crontab -e
[02:37] <darkblue_B> nickrud: looking
[02:37] <fismoll8> what does reiserfs do differently from ext3
[02:37] <Ashfire908> Pelo: xchat spawns the process. xchat does not depend on aplay, (well except for sound) and vise versa
[02:37] <fismoll8> it doesn't seem to be used very much on linux systems
[02:37] <gvsa123> how come my login screen suddenly became smaller? how do i get it back to the right resolution?
[02:37] <zcat[1]> btw how's hans looking these days..?
[02:37] <gregbrady> freelancer317, thanks for the tip
[02:37] <Newbuntu2> hello
[02:37] <pajamian> fismoll8: the state of reiserfs support is ... shall we say ... not very good atm.
[02:37] <nickrud> darkblue_B: that's the root crontab, format includes the user just before the command, and since it runs as root no sudo needed
[02:37] <Pelo> Ashfire908, i'm guessing that aplay gets installed with xchat ,
[02:37] <fismoll8> eh, I'll just stick with ext3
[02:37] <Ashfire908> Pelo: sorry you didn't ask be to do the trace thing sorry irssi makes highligh stuff yellow and i got a white bg
[02:37] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to use a USB driver for a data acquisition device, but the readme goes back and forth between libusb and libhid versions..
[02:37] <fismoll8> my backup hard drive was ntfs---but it's taking forever to rm -r directories
[02:37] <Newbuntu2> this is from the readme file:  http://rafb.net/p/lJ2EHd35.html
[02:38] <zcat[1]> I still think nina skipped to russa too..
[02:38] <Ashfire908> geirha: strace doesn't exist the system says
[02:38] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I woudnt, know what to do with a trace
[02:38] <pajamian> fismoll8: if you want to try something other than ext3 then the only other one I would recommend is xfs.
[02:38] <Newbuntu2> can someone explain to me the basics of how to interact with drivers?
[02:38] <Ashfire908> pelo: no it doesn't. it comes with alsa
[02:38] <fismoll8> nah, I'll stick with ext3
[02:38] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I don'T have a clue then
[02:38] <fismoll8> why doesn't windows use an ext3 system
[02:38] <fismoll8> I find ntfs to be slower and more of a pain
[02:38] <Pelo> fismoll8, because they can'T make money off it
[02:38] <pajamian> fismoll8: ask in #windows
[02:39] <LeChacal> i am getting an error along the lines that my apt cache is full how can i clear it out? i have tried apt-get clean/autoclean/autoremove but they fail giving me the same error. here is the exact error maybe i am reading it wrong http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58945/
[02:39] <zcat[1]> fismoll8: there are drivers you can install to read/write ext2, ext3 and reiserfs under windows
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ext2ifs
[02:39]  * Pelo goes to bed now , 
[02:39] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight pelo
[02:39] <fismoll8> meh, my drives are already ntfs on my windows box---sadly, I cannot switch over completely to linux
[02:40] <zcat[1]> but no way in heck will MSFT wupport them natively, ever.. :)
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, Im not far behind you.. in time that is
[02:40] <geirha> Ashfire908: install strace and try then (thought it was installed by default)
[02:40] <Digi> brb
[02:41] <nickrud> LeChacal: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dynamic-mmap-ran-out-of-room-error-when-adding-new-apt-source-list-233417/#post1188874 , I'd make a fresh file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ myslef
[02:42] <Ashfire908> geirha: huh? it is it's installed... must of mistyped
[02:43] <bradley> #winehq
[02:43] <LeChacal> nickrud: i had tried that and then i was getting an error that said "there was extra junk on line 1"
[02:44] <Ward1983> erm... i set my own colors of my theme, after i installed compiz-config-settings-manager and after reboot the ONLY color i can get with compiz is RED
[02:44] <Ward1983> WTF?
[02:44] <Ashfire908> geirha: you mean strace -p <pid>?
[02:44] <geirha> Ashfire908: sorry, yes, with -p
[02:45] <nickrud> LeChacal: ah, I just got that for the options, it shouldn't have quote marks
[02:45] <nickrud> LeChacal: I'll look for a different one to bookmark, thanks
[02:46] <Ashfire908> geirha: i got a "intruppt to stop" message then a blank line. ctrl-c din''t  stop it nor d so i killed it
[02:46] <darkblue_B> nickrud: no crontab for root - using an empty one
[02:46]  * nickrud loves some of the error messages, Extra junk :)
[02:46] <darkblue_B> nickrud: crontab: installing new crontab
[02:46] <nickrud> darkblue_B: there is one, it has 4 lines
[02:47] <darkblue_B> hmmm
[02:47] <hapo> downloding the newest hardy heron live cd right now
[02:47] <Ashfire908> geirha: i started it again do i type something in?
[02:47] <darkblue_B> *was* one >
[02:47] <hapo> which btw is worse for a hard disk, a large amount of usage hours or heavy usage?
[02:47] <geirha> Ashfire908: no it should list all the system calls the process calls. If it doesn't list anything, it's hanging on something
[02:48] <hapo> I've only been using this laptop for a few days but have still done many useless OS installations :P
[02:48] <geirha> Ashfire908: you'll usually see a line like "poll(" or "futex(" if it's hanging though ...
[02:48] <nickrud> darkblue_B: you're right, that's creating a new one for root.  You would have to edit /etc/crontab directly.  I was sure I had done that before, I guess not
[02:49] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:49] <darkblue_B> nickrud: I have two boxes.. good in a case like this
[02:49] <Beererde> hi. opera is terribly slow on ubuntu 64 bit :/ any suggestions?
[02:49] <Ashfire908> geirha: it's hanging then
[02:49] <gregbrady> is there an Empire Earth or Age of Empires for Linux?
[02:49] <bradley> do any of u know about virtual box?
[02:49] <Beererde> gregbrady: LOL a microsoft game for linux hahaha
[02:50] <geirha> Ashfire908: yea, but it's not telling us what it is it hangs on :/
[02:50] <Beererde> bradley: yes, it's cool. but only with a core 2 duo :)
[02:50] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: might run in cedega.. but a native version? I wouldn't think so....!
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> What is that line to add to your xorg file to enable horizontal scrolling? Thanks!
[02:50] <gregbrady> beererde Empire Earth is Sierra
[02:50] <darkblue_B> nickrud: the one in /etc/crontab is untouched
[02:50] <Beererde> and sierra has a ms alliance
[02:51] <darkblue_B> nickrud: I dont know wher the 'root crontab' is then
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> gregbrady: Try glest
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <ellevoros> i have a problem with my graphic card!!!! some help please!!!!
[02:51] <FloodBot2> ellevoros: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <kestir> ellevoros: retard
[02:51] <pajamian> heh
[02:51] <hedpe> holt s***
[02:51] <zcat[1]> ellevoros: some details would help.. what card? What's it doing (or not doing)?
[02:52] <ethan961> is it an ATI?
[02:52] <Odd-rationale> gregbrady: http://www.glest.org/
[02:52] <kestir> why reward that behavior with an offer for help zcat[1] ?
[02:52] <x0rg62> hi
[02:52] <Sonja> my shared folders aren't working! :( what is the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=719147
[02:52] <nickrud> darkblue_B: /var/cache/cron/crontabs
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Golly  - thats one way to not get help. :)
[02:52] <gregbrady> odd-rationale, the problem with those types of games, glest, is that they are all wizard based. I want something more history related.  If that makes sense
[02:52] <ethan961> Sonja, are you using hardy?
[02:52] <Sonja> gutsy
[02:53] <zcat[1]> !info glest
[02:53] <ubotwo> Package glest does not exist in gutsy
[02:53] <zcat[1]> Awww :(
[02:53] <Sonja> what is glest?
[02:53] <zcat[1]> anyone know a repo or a .deb for it?
[02:53] <nickrud> !find glest
[02:53] <Sonja> it's worked before! but doesn't work anymore
[02:53] <ubotwo> File glest found in sh:, apt-file:, command, not, found
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> gregbrady: There is modern warfare RTS game. I think it is called warzone
[02:53] <zarath76_> is there any reason I should be getting warnings in Synaptic about non authenticated packages?
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> Sonja: http://www.glest.org/
[02:54] <Sonja> are you saying that glest is messing up my shared folders?
[02:54] <Sonja> if so, how did glest end up on my computer?
[02:54] <ellevoros> zcat[1] is the sapphire ati x800gto2 256mb
[02:54] <zarath76_> do I need to install an authentication package first? this is a new install
[02:54] <darkblue_B> nickrud: no such file or directory  /var/cache/cron
[02:54] <ethan961> Sonja, are you using gutsy?
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> Sonja: No, you were asking what is glest, didn't you?
[02:54] <Sonja> ethan961 yes
[02:54] <zcat[1]> !ati | ellevoros (any of this help?)
[02:54] <ubotwo> ellevoros (any of this help?): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:54] <Sonja> oh i thought zcat[1] was teling me glest was related to my problem
[02:54] <x0rg62> i've a problem : when a connect my helmet for listen music i hear too the pc's speaker , i've a hp530
[02:54] <Sonja> my problem is that my shared folders aren't working! :( what is the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=719147
[02:54] <nickrud> darkblue_B: did I say cache ?  /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[02:54] <bradley> Beererde: i have a quad... lol... but can i run an exsisting version of something from withen that
[02:54] <nickrud> darkblue_B: I get lost in var sometimes ;)
[02:55] <ethan961> Sonja. due to a backend change in nautilus, networking ie. shared folders are not working atm
[02:55] <Sonja> ohh
[02:55] <Sonja> so it's not just me?
[02:55] <erpo> I'm having a problem with restore (http://restore-backup.com). Restore is installed on my Gutsy server. When I add my Gutsy laptop as a target, I can't browse my laptop's filesystem from the restore interface.
[02:55] <x0rg62> nobody ?
[02:55] <Sonja> ethan961 that's a major bug! it's gonna be restored soon? where can read news about it?
[02:55] <brohke1> guys im trying to upgrade to the latest nvidia drivers, the wiki article doesnt help me because it uses the drivers available through the synaptic pack manager
[02:55] <brohke1> i need to upgrade to the latest one using the newest nvidia .run package
[02:55] <brohke1> please help
[02:55] <pajamian> zcat[1]: http://www.glest.org/glest_board/viewtopic.php?t=3168&sid=4effb4e3092d8f01b84be15393b5a96a
[02:55] <darkblue_B> nickrud: indeed, there is a file there called root
[02:56] <x0rg62> please :/
[02:56] <darkblue_B> nickrud: all seems to be well with your suggested method then
[02:56] <bradley> do any of u know how to get kiba-dock working?
[02:56] <zcat[1]> pajamian: will look in a 'mo .. installing warzone2100 atm :)
[02:56] <ethan961> Sonja, sorry, its broken in hardy.
[02:56] <nickrud> darkblue_B: The problem with my suggested method is I expected it to edit /etc/crontab
[02:56] <Sonja> i'm on gutsy though
[02:56] <Sonja> (afaik)
[02:57] <darkblue_B> nickrud: from now on I edit the one in /var/spool/cron/crontabs ?
[02:57] <x0rg62> who have a hp530 here ?
[02:57] <darkblue_B> nickrud: for root jobs?
[02:57] <zcat[1]> always looking for new games here.. esp. OSS ones
[02:57] <l815> what does gusty use by default .. xserver-xgl?
[02:57] <zcat[1]> xserver-xorg I think
[02:57] <nickrud> darkblue_B: yes you can do that. use crontab -e to edit the crontab, it has some simple checks of syntax for you.
[02:57] <ethan961> Sonja, sorry, I am trying to reinstall windows at the same time, I am a little overloaded. I have not heard of this on gutsy, however the backend change is on hardy
[02:57] <ellevoros> zcat[1]
[02:57] <mbrandt> exit
[02:58] <x0rg62> who may help me ?
[02:58] <l815> actually, is it possible to use aiglx with ubuntu?
[02:58] <bradley> does anyone know how to get Kiba Dock running?
[02:58] <Lectrick> hi I'm trying to get a Canon BJC-4300 working in 7.10 but all it does is spit out a blank page without even acting like it's printing, but joblist says completed
[02:58] <geirha> l815: it uses aiglx if possible
[02:58] <nickrud> darkblue_B: or ensures that editing it doesn't interfere with getting cron jobs run properly. I find I've got some bit rot about cron jobs, need to brush up
[02:58] <kupesoft> l815: What's your graphics hardware?
[02:59] <x0rg62> please :/
[02:59] <l815> kupesoft, intel gm965
[02:59] <darkblue_B> nickrud: thx - any help at all is ok by me.. I know nothing abou tthis
[02:59] <l815> kupesoft, fedora uses aiglx right? and everything works fine there (graphics wise)
[02:59] <Sonja> ethan961 ok
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Its a good idea to check cups.org to see how well any printer is supported.
[02:59] <kupesoft> l815: Ubuntu does,
[02:59] <darkblue_B> nickrud: I think I have my one jon in there now, at least
[02:59] <l815> kupesoft, oh.
[03:00] <l815> kupesoft, what other options are there?
[03:00] <x0rg62> please !
[03:00] <pajamian> x0rg62: you can mute the pc speaker in the sound output.
[03:00] <Beererde> hi. opera is terribly slow on ubuntu 64 bit :/ any suggestions?
[03:00] <Lectrick> hmm i'll check cups brb
[03:00] <kupesoft> l815: I'm not really sure what you're asking? To use compiz-fusion / 3d desktop?
[03:00] <DAC1138> Beererde: try swiftweasel
[03:00] <x0rg62> where's the sound output ?
[03:00] <zcat[1]> swiftweasel?!!
[03:01] <DAC1138> Beererde: automatix can install swiftweasel. i can say it's a lot better and faster than firefox, and maybe as fast as opera on this machine
[03:01] <oboy03> what should i use to check the integrity of my hardrive?
[03:01] <l815> kupesoft, sorry, i can use compiz with the skip check, but video won't work right. in fedora live cd, i can have some graphical effects, while playing video fine. i was wondering how to duplicate this success with ubuntu
[03:01] <pajamian> x0rg62: double click on the speaker icon near the system tray and it will bring up the sound mixer controls, look for hte pc speaker one (you may have to move the scrollbar to the right).
[03:01] <Beererde> DAC1138: ok! i am using epiphany, any difference?
[03:01] <kupesoft> l815: Ah, not sure how I can help,
[03:01] <oboy03> i wanna know if my hardrive has errors, what software should i use?
[03:01] <DAC1138> Beererde: i can't say, i've never used epiphany
[03:02] <l815> kupesoft, thanks anyway :)
[03:02] <macrobad> x0rg62: Do you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:02] <zcat[1]> !info swiftweasel
[03:02] <ubotwo> Package swiftweasel does not exist in gutsy
[03:02] <brohke1> someone please help... im really lost here. my brightness controls don't work on my laptop. I read http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_%28Gutsy_Gibbon%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Brightness and it says that I need to upload to the latest driver, but the synaptic pack manager doesn't let me do this. and I don't know how to install it otherwise.
[03:02] <Ashfire908> geirha: the failsafe terminal froze so i just used the sysrq key thing
[03:02] <brohke1> i don't want to use Envy
[03:02] <DAC1138> Beererde: i've used opera though, and used to use firefox, but im loving swiftweasel. so i'd say you should give it a shot
[03:02] <Beererde> brohke1: xgamma
[03:02] <zcat[1]> ahhh.. that explains why I can't find it :)
[03:02] <pajamian> oboy03: smartmontools
[03:02] <x0rg62> macrobad: ubuntu
[03:02] <brohke1> Beererde: ?
[03:02] <oboy03> thanks
[03:02] <Beererde> DAC1138: ok
[03:02] <Beererde> brohke1: man xgamma
[03:03] <zcat[1]> weird thing.. if I open docx files in OOo, I can actually read them.. the formatting is crap though!
[03:03] <l815> is xgl safe to use?
[03:03] <Beererde> l815: yes
[03:04] <bradley> #kdock
[03:04] <macrobad> x0rg62: you could use see gnome-volume-control
[03:04] <macrobad> Alt + F2 and enter that
[03:04] <bradley> can anyone help me with getting kiba dock installed
[03:04] <brohke1> Beererde: i don't know what that means
[03:04] <brohke1> im a noob
[03:04] <l815> Beererde, is there a way I can install it without having to reinstall?
[03:05] <Beererde> try in a console (you know a terminal?) xgamma -gamma 0.5
[03:05] <macrobad> DAC1138: Isn't sweaftweasel a firefox with a couple of minor patches?
[03:06] <x0rg62> no
[03:06] <x0rg62> it doesn't work
[03:06] <Beererde> brohke1: you can also press alt+f2
[03:06] <pajamian> x0rg62: you found the control and muted it?
[03:06] <Beererde> brohke1: to execute a command
[03:06] <macrobad> x0rg62: What doesn't work?
[03:06] <oboy03> i've installed smart mon tools... where can i find it in my desktop?
[03:06] <x0rg62> i can't muted it
[03:06] <Beererde> oboy03: it's a terminal program
[03:07] <oboy03> oic
[03:07] <joeamined> hi
[03:07] <pajamian> oboy03: it's more of a command line tool, I don't know if it has a gui interface or not.
[03:07] <bitsbam> hey there all
[03:07] <acee1234> why is my conky always-on-top?
[03:07] <joeamined> does someone know how to get key scancode of the popup menu key ?
[03:07] <oboy03> pajamian: how do i activate it?
[03:07] <pajamian> oboy03: you have to run a test first, then when it's done you have to issue another command to look at the output ...
[03:08] <pajamian> oboy03: one sec...
[03:08] <joeamined> i got it in hexadecimal : e0 5c, but how to convert it to decimal ?
[03:08] <Beererde> joeamined: that looks like TWO scancodes
[03:08] <macrobad> x0rg62: It is actually very difficult to help remotely. However, almost all the settings are available from that program. So, 99% you have to change something there.
[03:08] <michalski> hey what projects qualify for getting you an associated mask on your address/ip?
[03:08] <bitsbam> i am trying to repair a drive with e2fsck -j /dev/hdc1  but it isn't working it gives me the useage stuff, i thought that this was all i needed
[03:08] <joeamined> Beererde: yes..that's the problem..
[03:09] <sam__>  /server irc.gamesurge.net
[03:09] <pajamian> oboy03: smartctl --test=long /dev/whatever
[03:09] <x0rg62> uhh..
[03:09] <bitsbam> if gparted cannot even determine the filesystem, it is a safe bet that my data is totally gone?
[03:09] <ellevoros> zcat[1] ...
[03:09] <brohke1> Beererde: is this going to help me install the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:09] <pajamian> oboy03: then wait as long as it says (and a bit longer).
[03:10] <Beererde> bitsbam: no. you could grep for known fragments of files
[03:10] <bitsbam> cool, how do i do that?
[03:10] <x0rg62> then , i can't ?
[03:10] <macrobad> bitsbam: There exist disc recovery programs.
[03:10] <pajamian> oboy03: and then check the results with: smartctl --all /dev/whatever
[03:10] <Beererde> brohke1: no, tried the xgamma?
[03:10] <bitsbam> for linux?
[03:10] <macrobad> bitsbam: I have never looked for one for Linux though.
[03:11] <zcat[1]> ellevoros: I do not use ati.. but if you can explain on channel what is not working and what you have tried so far to fix it, someone might be able to help you
[03:11] <brohke1> Beererde: i didnt but the brightness works... its just a bug with the driver i have
[03:11] <pajamian> x0rg62: you clicked on the speaker icon at the bottom of the pc speaker control so it put a red X through the icon?
[03:11] <brohke1> when i switch to a console, brightness works
[03:11] <brohke1> just not in X
[03:11] <acee1234> what codecs do i need to play dvd's?
[03:11] <brohke1> so i need to install the latest driver
[03:11] <Beererde> brohke1: which brightness control do you mean? the one of the monitor?
[03:11] <Beererde> brohke1: try xgamma . . .
[03:11] <bitsbam> macrobad, Beererde, gparted sees that it is a drive 40gb but nothing else, tried e2fsck -j /dev/hdc1 but that would not run either
[03:11] <brohke1> its a laptop, so yea
[03:11] <brohke1> hrm, nevermind
[03:12] <geirha> bitsbam: -j is not an option for fsck. Try fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc1 instead
[03:12] <Beererde> bitsbam: you won't be able to use it as a filesystem again, but the data should be there, if the drive still works. at least all fragments
[03:12] <bitsbam> ok, will do, thanks
[03:12] <x0rg62> no pajamian there are no red X through the icon
[03:12] <pajamian> x0rg62: you clicked on it?
[03:12] <bitsbam> Beererde, if i can't use it as a file system, i can still retrieve the files?
[03:12] <bitsbam> how?
[03:12] <x0rg62> yes
[03:13] <smartface> Hi, I cant watch a 30 min .mkv video normally using any player in Ubuntu.  It's choppy, and lags.  I found this patch http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=103136&action=view, how can i install it?
[03:13] <x0rg62> but i hear no more sound
[03:13] <pajamian> x0rg62: well, it should mute it that way, if that doesn't work you can drag the slider all the way down.
[03:13] <geirha> Ashfire908: well, I think you could be right about it being alsa. Could be there's a bug in the driver and that compiling the latest alsa will fix it
[03:13] <Beererde> bitsbam: if there are important files on it, be sure to make a backup before trying anything..
[03:13] <pajamian> x0rg62: no sound at all, or no pc speaker sounds?
[03:13] <Beererde> smartface: even mplayer?
[03:13] <x0rg62> at all
[03:14] <pajamian> x0rg62: which control did you mute?
[03:14] <x0rg62> Master
[03:14] <ubuntu_> hy
[03:14] <ubuntu_> awe8ga8++
[03:14] <ubuntu_> awey
[03:14] <ellevoros> zcat[1] i have compiz install but i can enable the visual effects and i think that the problem is that i don't have selected my graphic card !!!
[03:14] <gregbrady> I am greatly saddened, my favourite Empire Earth does not work under Wine.
[03:14] <smartface> Beererde, yes unfortunately
[03:15] <pajamian> x0rg62: that's the wrong control, unmute that (click on it again and make sure the slider is up) and find and mute the *PC SPEAKER* control.
[03:15] <tbuss> what is the best way to edit movies from a camcorder that uses mini disc
[03:15] <smartface> Can someone show me how to install that patch though (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=103136&action=view)??
[03:15] <macrobad> bitsbam: you don't really need to be able to read separate files to make a disk backup, just create an image
[03:15] <smartface> tbuss, try kino
[03:15] <Ashfire908> geirha, eh i'll just wait till hardy. i don't get the problem much. and usally it just makes sound stop working and my system load climc insanly high (but it doesn't slow the system).
[03:15] <bitsbam> Beererd it tells me that it has a bad superblock, try with -b 8193, but that does the same thing
[03:15] <tbuss> smartface: kino is for dv only right
[03:15] <smartface> not only tbuss
[03:16] <bitsbam> macrobad, with dd ?
[03:16] <geirha> Ashfire908: use irssi meanwhile then ;)
[03:16] <x0rg62> \o/
[03:16] <Ashfire908> geirha, i know it's alsa because aplay is part of alsa and when i tried to shut it down the init.d strict hung
[03:16] <x0rg62> fn+f9
[03:16] <macrobad> bitsbam, dd should suffice. Just be careful not to confuse input and output. =)
[03:16] <Ashfire908> geirha, i'm running xchat with the sound program manually set to " "
[03:16] <x0rg62> i'm so stupid
[03:17] <bitsbam> so like dd if=/dev/hdc1 of=imagefile.img? or something like that?
[03:17] <ellevoros> zcat[1]  also the log in screen resolution is 1920x1440 but the desctop have 1024x760!!!
[03:18] <x0rg62> but i can't mute the pc speaker by the gnome volume control pajamian
[03:18] <pajamian> x0rg62: why not?
[03:18] <bitsbam> macrobad, well, i don't have a spare 40 gb on anything. is there no way to repair the filesystem ?
[03:18] <x0rg62> there is not button for
[03:19] <ellevoros> zcat[1] i have compiz install but i can enable the visual effects and i think that the problem is that i don't have selected my graphic card !!!
[03:19] <ellevoros> zcat[1]  also the log in screen resolution is 1920x1440 but the desctop have 1024x760!!!
[03:19] <pajamian> x0rg62: then go into the edit menu, then preferences and find the line for PC Speaker and make sure it's checked.
[03:19] <doom2day> I am having significant problems with synaptic package manager right now; It crashes while starting up.  I checked my memory, and I took out the bad stick that I found, but it is still crashing.
[03:19] <x0rg62> yes
[03:20] <x0rg62> all is checked
[03:20] <zcat[1]> ellevoros: sounds like you have not properly enabled the ati restricted drivers... but as I say, I do not use ati cards so I cannot help much.. try admin > Restricted Drivers Manager and see if there's an ati option, and if it is enabled?
[03:20] <macrobad> bitsbam: look, you would anyway need free space to recover your drive. If you attempt to recover it, while writing data to the same drive, you will most likely loose it.
[03:20] <alexbOrsova> im having problems setting up an ubuntu box as a router, can someone help me?
[03:20] <x0rg62> and there is nothing for pc speaker
[03:20] <|gandhii|> I'm installing ddclient for updating a dyndns account and it is asking me "Interface used for dyndns service"?  I've been using dyndns for over a decade now (albeit on windows), and this is the first time I've been asked that.  What kind of "interface" is being asked for?
[03:20] <pajamian> x0rg62: well if it's checked then the control should appear on the volume manager, did you scroll to the right when looking for it?
[03:21] <macrobad> bitsbam, as for dd, here is good documentation: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/dd.1.asp
[03:21] <ellevoros> zcat[1] it is enable!!!
[03:21] <macrobad> bitsbam, if I were you, I'd look for some disk recovery software in search engines.
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[03:21] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:22] <bitsbam> macrobad, hey thanks for that
[03:22] <pajamian> ok, I have to head off, bye.
[03:22] <x0rg62> nothing appear pajamian
[03:22] <macrobad> bitsbam, just make sure not to write to the same drive you are trying to recover!
[03:22] <pajamian> x0rg62: don't know what to tell you, I have to get going, though.
[03:23] <x0rg62> bye
[03:23] <geirha> |gandhii|: have you tried searching for guides on internet sharing with ubuntu?
[03:23] <bod_> hey guys, got a major problem -- this morning i decided to install xp on a seperate hard drive purely for gaming, however, doing so *destroyed* GRUB to the point where i could no longer even think about booting ubuntu. after faffing with online tuto's and talking to Roadhazard on here, i finally got my grub menu back, only i gave me an Error 21: Can not mount selected point. So a few hours later and alot of googling i got that error
[03:23] <bod_> sorted, now i get an Error 15: could not find file. now this is the strange bit, GRUB has no option for windows, so i attempted to use F12 (F12 = Select first boot device) and choose my windows HD, but it sent me straight to GRUB loader, but i can now boot ubuntu??!!**!!?? so telling my machine to boot windows, allows me to boot ubuntu, annoying if i would have to do that everytime, and also i therefore have no way (apart from disabl
[03:23] <alexbOrsova> can anyone here help me configure an ubuntu box as a router?
[03:23] <bod_> ing ubuntu HD) of booting my windows disk,.,.plz help me, ;~)
[03:23] <x0rg62> i can mute the pcspaker by fn-f9 but not with de volume manager
[03:23]  * bod_ apologizes about the life stroy
[03:24] <ellevoros> zcat[1] what will happen if i go to admin> screen & graphic>graphic card>drivers and chose my card???
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> |gandhii|,  See also firestarter for connection sharing
[03:24] <anniku989> whats some cool graphical customizations for kubuntu?
[03:24] <zcat[1]> ellevoros: no idea.. try it?
[03:25] <geirha> alexbOrsova: have you tried searching for guides on internet sharing with ubuntu?
[03:25] <VentusIgnis> Hello?  My synaptic package manager won't start up and I am having trouble finding a way to fix it ...
[03:25] <geirha> |gandhii|: sorry, wrong nick :)
[03:25] <bod_> VentusIgnis, run from terminal to get error messages??
[03:25] <alexbOrsova> yes, and im having some problems
[03:25] <bitsbam> macrobad, right, thanks
[03:25] <fsk141> ello, can anyone help me to boot gOS via pxe?
[03:25] <|gandhii|> geira: yea..   they all are walkthroughs of setting up the config file.   When I installed the ddclient package it automatically ran a install script asking me this and other things that were more obvious.
[03:25] <holycow> bod_: this isn't a terribly usefull suggestion but here is what i would do
[03:26] <macrobad> bitsbam: not at all, really :)
[03:26] <bod_> holycow, anything is better than nothing ;~)
[03:26] <fsk141> gOS is based off ubuntu, can anyone help me pxe install it?
[03:26] <holycow> bod_: i would commit to backing up my /home dir and reinstall everything from scratch.  you can fix that manually fairly easily but its tricky and i don't want to guess over irc
[03:26] <alexbOrsova> geirha: im having problems using the route command in /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:26] <holycow> bod_: the key is install windows first, then JUST install ubuntu afterwards on the second hd
[03:26] <holycow> windows preffers to be on c: (though not really necessary anymore)
[03:26] <WorkingOnWis1> can I add a folder to the sources list?
[03:27] <fsk141> anyone do pxe installs?
[03:27] <holycow> so when you install windows first it will install its bootloader.  when you install ubuntu afterwards, it will see win, ask you where you want to install ubuntu politely and then just install the grub bootloader
[03:27] <zcat[1]> the real key is never, ever install windows at all :)
[03:27] <bod_> holycow, i no, but i couldnt install windows first because ubuntu was already installed,.,.,.. but any thoughts on the grub error 15? reinstalling would be a last resort really,. ive done it soo many times now,.,.(i hope hardy is stabler)
[03:27] <holycow> and keep a windows entry in grub so you can start it up
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWis1, You can add a source to the list, but I dont think that is what you are asking
[03:27] <VentusIgnis> bod, I remember running something like the package manager from the console and getting a segmentation fault
[03:27] <holycow> bod_: thats what i'm getting at
[03:27] <holycow> backup your /home
[03:27] <holycow> wipe everything out
[03:27] <holycow> and start from scratch
[03:28] <ellevoros> the problem is that i don't know what must i chose radeon,radeon fglrx,fbdev,vesa???
[03:28] <holycow> you can have it done in 3 hours or less if you start now
[03:28] <fsk141> you all fail, no-one knows how to pxe install gOS?
[03:28] <ellevoros> zcat[1] the problem is that i don't know what must i chose radeon,radeon fglrx,fbdev,vesa???
[03:28] <holycow> its going to take far longer than that to find someone to guess their way over irc to fix the problem manually, even tho it can
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWis1, Can you explain exactly what you are trying to accomplish
[03:28] <dryrot> fsk141: you could probably figure out how to pxe install ubuntu
[03:28] <dryrot> fsk141: gos is just some packages on top of that
[03:28] <holycow> bod_: like i said not usefull advice, just what i would do/suggest given the kind of problme and given that you are hoping for help over irc
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> holycow: 3hrs?.. damn, i usually reinstall, have all my programs and files back in place and settings done, in around an hour.. and thats moving about 10gigs of music, and about 10-15gigs of videos.
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, pastebin your fdisk -l
[03:28] <alexbOrsova> has anyone here ever set up an ubuntu box as a router? this is my last plea for help...
[03:29] <fsk141> dryrot: its a little different with gOS, not much, but I cant get it to boot up
[03:29] <macrobad> bod_: my entry in the /boot/grub/menu.lst that is used to boot up windows: http://pastebin.org/22910
[03:29] <dryrot> alexbOrsova: im using gutsy on a laptop as a router, it's terrible
[03:29] <holycow> bod_: then whats the problem ?  :)
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbOrsova,  I mentioned firestarter earlier..
[03:29] <holycow> then again you may luck out
[03:29] <bod_> holycow, sata drive, il have it done in under 2 ,.,.hehe,.,. im a bit rusty on the command though, can you plz give me the command to tar the root and home folder excluding the media folder and other useless ones then sending the tar file to live on the windows disk,.,.plz
[03:29] <x0rg62> anybody have many problem with the lid switch ? (when we close the screen of laptop,sleep)
[03:29] <alexbOrsova> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, must've missed it...
[03:29] <dryrot> fsk141: im pretty sure Gos is just ubuntu gutsy with packages.  i am running it right now.
[03:29] <holycow> bod_: we install ubuntu in less than 5 minutes
[03:29] <holycow> data and everything
[03:29] <bod_> macrobad, ty very much
[03:29] <fsk141> well I need to pxe install it, and am having trouble
[03:29] <holycow> its not a huge issue, depends on what your setup is
[03:30] <holycow> just offering you sanity
[03:30] <oboy03> can i download and burn the updates so i wont have to down load it for every workstation?
[03:30] <dryrot> fsk141: why dont you figure out how to pxe install ubuntu first.  since there are 50 billion ubuntu users, i bet someone has figured out how
[03:30] <macrobad> bod_: You may omit savedefault, but makeactive and chainloader are important
[03:30] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, that command only shows my windows disk,. not my pendrive, not my hard drives,.,.;~) how funny
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[03:30] <fsk141> dryrot: I did that already, its installing now, yet it wont work for gOS, this is pointless ubuntu is stupid
[03:30] <zcat[1]> I find it takes about four hours to install a dual-boot machine.. half hour for windows, three hours to find all the drivers windows wants, and about half an hour to get ubuntu installed and all the restricted packages set up.
[03:30] <bod_> macrobad, you lost me at omit
[03:31] <fsk141> Archlinux ftw
[03:31] <monte> does anyone know like a CAD program to make like blue prints and make that kind of stuff
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, sudo fdisk -l  doesnt show all drives?
[03:31] <ethan> fsk141, agreed
[03:31] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, nope
[03:31] <bod_> oh
[03:31] <bod_> hang on
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, Uh-oh
[03:32] <bloody1> PXE INSTALL: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !find cad
[03:33] <ubotwo> Found: libqcad0-dev, qcad, qcad-doc, cadaver, cadubi (and 17 others)
[03:33] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, sudo works better,.,.;~),.,. just pateing now,. slow internet *twiddles thumbs*
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !info qcad
[03:33] <zcat[1]> !info cadaver
[03:33] <WorkingOnWis1> Jack_Sparrow: I have a folder that I keep debs in. I would lke to add it to my sources list so as I drop an update deb into the folder, synaptic will se it and offer it up to me....
[03:33] <WorkingOnWis1> Jack_Sparrow: I have a folder that I keep debs in. I would like to add it to my sources list so as I drop an update deb into the folder, synaptic will see it and offer it up to me....
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWis1, add your debs to /var/cache/apt/archives  with all the others you have downloaded
[03:34] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, my internet seems to be not responding at all,. but irc is fine ,.,.haha,.,. mind if i PM it to you?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWis1, see also aptoncd
[03:34] <zcat[1]> qcad - A professional CAD System
[03:34] <zcat[1]> cadaver - command-line WebDAV client
[03:34] <WorkingOnWis1> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:34] <Bradley> Jack_Sparrow: do u know how to make grub boot windows, even though it cant find it
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Bradley, You would need to fix grub or use a windows boot cd and fixmbr
[03:35] <captine> is it common for a wifi device to make the computer unstable when it is on with a cable plugged in at the same time
[03:35] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, can i pm you my output for    sudo fdisk -l         ??
[03:35] <holycow> bod_: don't pm people especially those kind enough to help you
[03:36] <Rico> hello, I'm having a problem in 8.04a6.  I can't get libdvdcss2 to install at all
[03:36] <Bradley> Jack_Sparrow: Grub, just doesnt see Windows.... what do i do, to fix it?
[03:36] <holycow> post q's in here, post outputs elsewhere
[03:36] <holycow> bod_: it helps the doogooders keep their sanity
[03:36] <bod_> holycow, cant post output elsewhere firefox not working, and im asking first,.,. politeness helps ;~)
[03:36] <zcat[1]> Bradley: edit /boot/grub/menu.list and uncomment the windows entry, and change hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) for the second drive
[03:36] <bod_> holycow, im a regular doogooder in here ;~)
[03:36] <esteve> hello chan
[03:37] <holycow> bod_: yes you can you can post via lynx in terminal
[03:37] <holycow> install that
[03:37] <holycow> and post online
[03:37] <Bradley> Jack_Sparrow: wait do i type that into the terminal or just open the file
[03:37] <holycow> just a suggestion, not telling you what to do
[03:38] <esteve> i am tring to partition my hard drive in ubuntu so i can install windows but keep my linux can any one tell me what software is easy to do this please
[03:38] <holycow> gparted or qtparted
[03:39] <Rico> how do i install libdvdcss2 on 8.04a6?
[03:39] <Bradley> zcat[1]: wait can i send u my file... in the paste thing then u link me to the corrected one... i dont want to do anything wrong
[03:39] <esteve> dose it run in a gui or in konsol ?
[03:39] <holycow> Rico: add medibuntu and install it from there
[03:39] <bod_> holycow, ok thanks for the suggestion,. i think im gonna skip the 'fixin it' thing and just reinstall,.,. 1 question,.,. what command do i use to backup my system?
[03:39] <l815> how can i update to hardy without messing anything up?
[03:39] <Rico> what's that
[03:39] <bod_> l815, no its still alpha,. could break at any time
[03:39] <viking_sejati> hi
[03:39] <usse1> l815: you can't update to alpha without a mess
[03:39] <chrome> howdy folks
[03:40] <l815> ahh, damn.. the live cd seemed fine T-T
[03:40] <zcat[1]> Bradley: well, it depends exactly where windows is installed.. first/only partition of second drive? primary slave or secondary master? (or secondary slave) drive?
[03:40] <holycow> bod you grab a livecd lik eknoppix, insert an external hd of some sort or put another hd on the pata/sata chain and copy and paste
[03:40] <holycow> if you have an ftp available to you you can ftp your home dir over too
[03:40] <bod_> l815, upgrade at your own risk,.,. bit impatient though, only a month left ;~)
[03:40] <zcat[1]> Bradley: you're at the point now where Linux will boot but there's no entry for windows?
[03:40] <l815> bod_, lol i was thinking that too, but since it's only a month away it shouldn't be too buggy :P
[03:41] <Bradley> zcat[1]: right
[03:41] <Bradley> zcat[1]: can we go to this room #boot
[03:41] <holycow> l815: thats is 100% the wrong attitude unfortunately
[03:41] <Rico> does medibuntu have a hardy repo?
[03:41] <holycow> this is ubuntu
[03:41] <bod_> holycow, 3 months ubuntu'er here,. i didnt understand any of that, i dont have an ftp thing,.,.
[03:41] <zcat[1]> ok
[03:41] <chrome> l815: fwiw I'm running hardy and its pretty solid except for some compiz glitches which have open bugs filed against them
[03:41] <holycow> they release far more quickly than they can really manage
[03:41] <bod_> l815, haha,. if it wasnt buggy it would be in beta not alpha
[03:41] <l815> bod_, good point haha
[03:41] <holycow> releases are buggy at the best of times but to their credit they are really ambitious
[03:42] <l815> chrome, the live cd seemed stable, but since the upgrade will be a mess i'd rather wait
[03:42] <ethan> hardy install experience blows gutsy away
[03:42] <l815> what does a lock on a shortcut icon mean/
[03:42] <holycow> bod_: ah ... okay so how do you normally back up your files?
[03:42] <chrome> l815: yeah I installed clean off the live cd. Not without some trouble mind you; the first burn I did at max speed and it was obviously dodgy
[03:42] <pewpewarrows> ethan: what's different in the hardy install?
[03:43] <vbgunz> is the mobile edition ready at all? pre-alpha, alpha, beta?
[03:43] <vbgunz> am searching now
[03:43] <chrome> but I'm really impressed at how fast eclipse is running compared to on 7.10; its running like a native app.
[03:43] <holycow> vbgunz: mobile edition of what?
[03:43] <l815> chrome, i learned my lesson with fast burning a while ago, i don't burn at max speeds anymore for live cds :P
[03:43] <vbgunz> mobile ubuntu
[03:43] <SoulBlade> im sorry if this is a newb question... but i just installed mythbuntu 7.1 and find its really slow.  my mouse isn't smooth and the gui isn't as responsive as WinXP which was previously on this machine.  Does anybody have any thoughts?
[03:43] <crexor> http://www.crexor.net/~crexor/ubuntu/
[03:43] <holycow> i had no idea, looking
[03:43] <bod_> holycow, is this a valid solution,.,. install ubuntu onto a new partition on the same HD as ubuntu now, then copy the files, then delete old partition and resize the new ones??? and i never seem to get round to doing backups ,.,.hehe (thats prob why i reinstall so much) ;~)
[03:43] <vbgunz> I would like to know if it would somehow work on an ipod touch
[03:43] <l815> hardy seems to use murrine
[03:43] <chrome> l815: i should know better myself; i just forgot to change the setting :/
[03:43] <SoulBlade> top showed i was pretty idle
[03:44] <holycow> bod_: well do you need anything from /home then?
[03:44] <l815> chrome, oh well we all make mistakes
[03:44] <mortuis99> hey all.   I just installed 7.10 from FF and now when i try and play youtube it freezes my machine.  can someone help?
[03:44] <bod_> holycow, i need all of /home
[03:44] <esteve> gpart dose not work :(
[03:44] <bod_> !doesnotwork | esteve
[03:44] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mortuis99, reinstall flash
[03:44] <ethan> vbgunz, itouch is running darwin/bsd anyways, and you wotld need a whole new interface
[03:44] <holycow> bod_: personally here is what i would do.  you have a really messed up config.  if i was sitting there i could fix it but again, i don't want to hose you over irc
[03:44] <bod_> what happened to the does not work factoid?
[03:45] <holycow> so i would buy an external usb hd for backups
[03:45] <holycow> copy paste your /home to that with a live cd
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork
[03:45] <ubotwo> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:45] <holycow> then wipe nice and clean and start over
[03:45] <mlLK> anyone running compiz on dual monitors?
[03:45] <mortuis99> ok reinstalling now
[03:45] <holycow> bod_: anything else imho is just asking for trouble
[03:45] <holycow> omg
[03:45] <thinman1189> How do I burn a DVD movie? I have both K3b and gnomebaker but I'm not sure how. The files I want are on my computer and not extracted from a DVD.
[03:45] <bod_> holycow, 16 year old,. buying anything is not an option,.,. and i like hosin,.,.hehe, gotta learn somehow,.,. if you could walk me through it that would be grately appreciated
[03:45] <chrome> mlLK: no, that'd be CRAZY
[03:45] <holycow> there is an ubuntu mobile
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> mortuis99, and not inside ff with point and click..
[03:45] <holycow> what the hell?
[03:45] <vbgunz> ethan I am currently experiencing nothing but bugs in a sense with some of the hacked apps, namely vim and python... since there hacked I'd love to see something a bit more official on there
[03:45] <holycow> bod_: oh
[03:45] <chrome> mlLK: *tries it himself*
[03:46] <holycow> bod_: in that case yes your thinking is correct
[03:46] <holycow> that will work
[03:46] <holycow> however
[03:46]  * bod_ does a dance *woot woot*
[03:46] <VentusIgnis> Good bye :(  I'm gonna reinstall.  Maybe I'll see you again sometime :(
[03:46]  * bod_ however = damn
[03:46] <holycow> BEWARE: when you resize your linux partition
[03:46] <holycow> if it screws up
[03:46] <holycow> kiss your /home data byebye
[03:46] <holycow> forever
[03:46] <bod_> holycow, why would it screw up?
[03:46] <mortuis99> u mean not in synaptic?
[03:46] <holycow> it will never under any circumstances be retrievable especially if you are using ext3 for your file system
[03:47] <mortuis99> Jack_Sparrow u mean not in synaptic?
[03:47] <mlLK> LF compiz guru
[03:47] <holycow> bod_: i guess it's hard to explain unless you do this for a living
[03:47] <vbgunz> I'd quickly replace everything on the ipod touch easily, quickly if it could be replaced... I am not nuts about movies, music, pics and stuff... I got it cause I saw python and vim on there and thought it would work with minimal bugs... just using it I am experiencing too many :(
[03:47] <bod_> holycow, funny you should mention that,.,. thats my aspiration (kinda)
[03:47] <holycow> its a computer, if it can go wrong it will AT THE WORST time possible
[03:47] <bod_> true!!
[03:47] <holycow> that mobile ubuntu idea is horrible
[03:47] <holycow> holy cow
[03:47] <holycow> gtk has to die
[03:47] <holycow> lol
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> holycow, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> mortuis99, yes.. from synaptic
[03:48] <vbgunz> yeah, agree, Qt would probably rock it, jmho
[03:48] <holycow> gtk sucks as it is, gnome is horrible, and now we want to push this on to mobile devices?
[03:48] <bod_> holycow, how about this, i make a tar of my /home   then wack it on a seperate hd,. wipe the disk, install,. then extract he tar??
[03:48] <holycow> lol thats hillarious
[03:48] <holycow> bod_: that would work
[03:48]  * bod_ reminds holycow of the ower of the !lol ;~)
[03:49] <bod_> holycow, ok cool,.,. i seem to have the theory right,. but im not sure on the commands??
[03:50] <holycow> bod_: well when you tar, at least make sure you do tar -p at minimum to preserve permissions
[03:50] <holycow> its not horribly important but it might things a bit easier
[03:50] <bod_> could anyone tell me the command to make a tar.gz of my entire /home folder
[03:51] <holycow> the rest, i'm not sure i could run you through that, i just had 2 weeks of 18 hour days
[03:51] <bod_> holycow, oh oops,.,. too soon,.,. ok -p definately,.,.
[03:51] <holycow> i know i'll screw up your hd if i try
[03:51] <holycow> bod_: Jack_Sparrowposted a great link
[03:51] <holycow> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[03:52] <holycow> thats another interesting idea if you have a pendrive
[03:52] <bod_> holycow, im confident i can tar it (if someone tells me the whole command) then transfer to other HD, then delete all partitions then install,. its the replacing /home with the tar'ed /home i cant do
[03:52] <holycow> but sounds lik eyou have hd space and a cd installer
[03:52] <|2-bits|> Is there a way to make a program start minimized
[03:52] <mortuis99> Jack_Sparrow THANK YOU  it seems to work im testing it now
[03:52] <bod_> holycow, 80gig hd 40gig hd 20gig hd 2gig mem stick
[03:52] <holycow> how big is home?
[03:53] <holycow> actually
[03:53] <holycow> how big is your /user dir?
[03:53] <bod_> holycow, how do i tell?
[03:53] <holycow> df -h /youruserdir
[03:53] <BaD_CrC> du -h /home
[03:53] <holycow> errr
[03:53] <holycow> lol see?
[03:54] <holycow> i'm gonna stop now, too tired
[03:54] <BaD_CrC> it's ok
[03:54] <Darkmystere> How do i update to Hardy Heron?
[03:54] <BaD_CrC> Darkmystere: /join #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <bod_> holycow, 25gig
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[03:54] <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:55] <eatatjoes2> hey i am trying to open winword (in wine, and yes i know there is openoffice) and i get a IOPL not enabled error, and i keep finding something about changing the wineprefix, how do u do this?
[03:55] <BaD_CrC> ok, then don't.... :P
[03:55] <bod_> eatatjoes2, prob a question for the guys in #winehq
[03:55] <eatatjoes2> bod_, okay thanks
[03:55] <bod_> np ;~)
[03:56] <bod_> eatatjoes2, make sure your running from terminal not gui
[03:56] <thinman1189> !dvd
[03:56] <ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:56] <eatatjoes2> bod_,  what server is winehq on?
[03:56] <bod_> this one
[03:56] <eatatjoes2> bod_,  it says channel doesnt exist
[03:56] <bod_> eatatjoes2, this one
[03:57] <bod_> eatatjoes2, type exactly this    /j #winehq
[03:57] <emotionalname> what does that do
[03:57] <bod_> holycow, my /home folder is 25 gig
[03:57] <BaD_CrC> i've been idling in #winehq for 3 days now. it's there. :)
[03:57] <bod_> !who | emotionalname
[03:57] <Bradley> zcat[1]: it say boot manager is missing :(
[03:57] <ubotwo> emotionalname: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:57] <zcat[1]> Bradley: for windows?
[03:58] <goose> how can I extract a .bin file?
[03:58] <forces> O.O
[03:58] <Bradley> zcat[1]: yeah
[03:58] <holycow>  tar -cvvfp foo.tar foo/
[03:58] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. ok
[03:58] <holycow> actually
[03:58] <forces> hola
[03:58] <holycow> do man tar
[03:58] <holycow> read up on the command
[03:58] <holycow> that is far better and more detailed than i can run you through
[03:58] <jditto> help!!!!
[03:58] <emotionalname> holy cow
[03:59] <bod_> holycow, have done,.,. proper confusing,.,. i seem to remember being told to add xcf as parameters aswell
[03:59] <zcat[1]> ummm.. everyone else ... /dev/sda2 would be hd(0,1) in grub, right?
[03:59] <emotionalname> holicow put names in front of your speech
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /home   ?
[03:59] <Pritchard> Hody! :D
[03:59] <goose> how can I extract a file inside of a .bin file?
[03:59] <Pritchard> Any chance for folder-embedded applications coming any time soon?
[04:00] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, wow, cheers,.,. accept not excluding the /home  ;~)
[04:00] <jditto> i started a distribution upgrade throught a vnc connection.  i can log in through ssh but i get a vnc authentication error when trying to reconnect.  i changed a couple of files that the upgrade had changed after it had changed them to make sure that i could get back on.
[04:00] <Pritchard> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3944/
[04:00] <holycow> Pritchard: what are folder embedded applications?
[04:00] <Pritchard> That link explains it all >.>;;
[04:00] <Bradley> everyone else ... /dev/sda2 would be hd(0,1) in grub, right?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_, Just posted my normal backup command
[04:00] <BaD_CrC> Pritchard: ala macos?
[04:00] <joeb3_> Bradley, right.
[04:00] <Pritchard> Applications embedded in file browsing, basically.
[04:00] <holycow> that will never happen
[04:00] <holycow> ever
[04:00] <jditto> but now i can't.  i don't have a problem of going on site and logging in to finish the job. but i don't know how to take control of the other screen after loggin in at the terminal?
[04:00] <holycow> its not how an operating system works
[04:00] <zcat[1]> Bradley: I suspect some other breakage in windows... :(
[04:00] <Bradley> zcat[1]: yeah jeob3_ said "right"
[04:01] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, cheers m8, does that command (if i dont exclude /home) only backup /home    or would it backup other places?
[04:01] <smartface> How can I force my dual core to use both cores for video playback?
[04:01] <zcat[1]> Bradley: might have to ask someone else 'cos I gotta cook dinner  ... good luck.
[04:01] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, in other words,.,. how could i exclude everything BUT /home
[04:01] <forces> forces???
[04:02] <monte> hey i am a painter and a construction company owner and i need an architect program does anyone know of one
[04:02] <Bradley> zcat[1] okay
[04:02] <zcat[1]> monte: qcad ?
[04:02] <poseidon> Ok, I have a computer at home that has freeBSD on it (it doesn't have interent becuase my NIC isn't supported).  I am going to switch to ubuntu, and to get support for my NIC, I have to put on and build the ralink-rt73 kernel module.  My problem is how do i get that onto the computer since it has no internet connection.
[04:02] <poseidon> I'm downloading ubuntu via my friends computer, and am going to use a live cd
[04:03] <monte> zcat[1]: tryed that not what i am looking for i need to make floor plans and stuff
[04:03] <holycow> poseidon: wouldn't it be easier to just by a $5 dollar nic that is supported?
[04:03] <holycow> its faster, its cheaper and  you plug it in and it works?
[04:04] <bosanac> Hi how to set on xchat like on mirc timer /timer 0 30 /msg #channel (text) ?
[04:04] <netopalis> Haldo
[04:04] <holycow> heck if you know a tech store they probably havea box of old ones gathering dust and will sell it to you for $2?
[04:04] <poseidon> holycow, unfortunately, my parents won't let me use their credit card to go online and get a nic.  And bestbuy doesn't really have anything better
[04:05] <gvsa123> how can i get my login screen to the right resolution?
[04:05] <poseidon> So any suggestions?
[04:05]  * netopalis has a wierd sound recording issue...Probably just me being new and doing something stupid, but would someone mind helping me troubleshoot it?
[04:05] <goose> I have a .bin file that I want to extract the contents of; how can I do it?
[04:05] <bod_> holycow, can i just right click my /home folder and select tar this folder,.,. instead of doing it through terminal?
[04:06] <holycow> poseidon: well technically you could download all the build tools and source and just copy it over via usb
[04:06] <holycow> however
[04:06] <holycow> you will be making that trip to your friends a 1000 times
[04:06] <holycow> its a lot of files and a lot of knowhow
[04:06] <holycow> alternatively
[04:06] <goose> extracting a .BIN file
[04:06] <netopalis> Anyone?  Beuller?
[04:07] <holycow> if your friend had ubuntu, you could build that module for any target kernel, although it would be easier if your friend had the exact same version
[04:07] <holycow> so ...
[04:07]  * goose doesn't know how to extract files from a .BIN file
[04:07] <holycow> unfortunately the amount of work involved is quite onerous as your box doesn't have an internet connection
[04:07] <poseidon> Unfortunately he has windows :(
[04:07] <holycow> that roughly outlines the workload
[04:07] <Vovk> Hey! I'm having some problems mounting a DVD... I think it is in the UFS filesystem, but I'm not sure... in any case, it does not auto-mount as usual and gives an error message that UFS is not a valid filesystem
[04:07] <Vovk> what should I do?
[04:07] <holycow> in which case, option a is what yhou haveto do and i can't really list all the files you need :/
[04:08] <pretender> how do you get the mac style start bar in ubuntu
[04:08] <netopalis> Whenever I try to hit record on sound recorder, the window freezes.  Any idea why?
[04:08] <holycow> bod_: sure it won't keep all permissions tho but i think you can live without that
[04:08] <holycow> bod_: you dont haveto do /home either
[04:08] <holycow> just your /user dir
[04:08] <monte> someone help me
[04:08] <holycow> sometimes people have more than one account and the others contain bogus dat they don't need
[04:09] <Ashfire908> holycow, i'm just skiming but you could move the computer(?)
[04:09] <holycow> monte: just ask
[04:09] <bod_> holycow, yer, just me here though,.,. any way of editing the command the nautilus script that makes the tar uses and add -p to it?
[04:09] <holycow> Ashfire908: move what computer? i think you are referring to bod_?
[04:09] <monte> i need a really good cad program or to make floor plans
[04:09] <holycow> bod_: i'm NOT going to be going through that with you
[04:09] <holycow> lol
[04:10] <holycow> you have two nice and easy options :) choose on pls
[04:10] <Ashfire908> holycow, i didn't know who you were talking to. like i said i'm just skiming
[04:10] <hedpe> I'm using a thinkpad, and whenever i do not use my computer for about 60 seconds, my screen dims... and when i move my mouse again it does NOT undim... anyone know what might be the issue? i have to use my keyboard to turn the brightness back up
[04:10] <holycow> Ashfire908: in which case i have no idea what you are referring to :)
[04:10] <holycow> lol
[04:10] <holycow> monte: tried qcad maybe?
[04:10] <bod_> holycow, ok sod it,. im gonna live without the original permissions ,.,.lol ty though ;~)
[04:11] <holycow> bod_: you should be fine
[04:11] <holycow> np
[04:12] <bod_> holycow, il prob be done by the time mornign comes around then,.,.haha,.,. its irritating,. i hate windows!!!,.,. oh, this will add wiondows to the new grub list yes?
[04:12] <bod_> when i reinstall
[04:12] <holycow> windows first, then ubuntu,  yes
[04:12] <macogw> bod_: yes, at teh end
[04:12] <bod_> lol hahah
[04:12] <macogw> holycow: what?
[04:12] <monte> holycow: yea its not that good for wat i need
[04:12] <holycow> macogw: what? i was talking to bod_
[04:13] <macogw> bod_: make sure windows comes *after* the line that says end debian automagic kernel listing.  windows should be listed last
[04:13] <holycow> monte: oooooohkay.  then you want what? 3k worth of software for free or something?
[04:13] <holycow> that i think is the best open source package out there for cad
[04:13] <macogw> holycow: if you put windows before the ubuntu kernels, a kernel upgrade will erase windows from the grub menu
[04:13] <bod_> macogw, holycow, i cann move all these lines around in the grub list config file somewhere yes?
[04:13] <holycow> if it doesn't do the job i believe you only have whatever is available on the market :/
[04:14] <monte> holycow: yes lol pretty much
[04:14] <holycow> macogw: i think you are comming into this half way and missing a lot
[04:14] <holycow> i'm going to ignore that last statement
[04:14] <bod_> monte, discover the joy of *torrents* (i in no way condone torrents nor do i express the views of anyone in this channel)
[04:14] <netopalis> So, yeah...Could anyone please help me?  I have cookies!
[04:14] <nickrud> bod_: just before BEGIN or after END macogw is giving good info
[04:14] <prince_jammys> netopalis: you want to delete your cookies?
[04:15] <bazhang> netopalis: what is the issue please
[04:15] <holycow> macogws advice is fine but useless
[04:15] <netopalis> lol
[04:15] <bod_> nickrud, so aslong as its not in the linux 'section' i should be ok,.,. will i get to choose this or will it do it for me?
[04:15] <netopalis> Whenever I press record on sound recorder, it freezes
[04:15] <holycow> bod_ is installing windows FIRST on then ubuntu after.  that will by default put windows at the end of the grub list
[04:15] <netopalis> The window goes blank
[04:15] <bod_> prince_jammys, he will give you cookies!!
[04:15] <monte> bod_: wat do u have aim she we can talk about that
[04:15] <prince_jammys> bod_: i know, was kidding
[04:15] <holycow> the info is usefull but not relavant as he is reading the conversatio half way through
[04:15] <kraypius>  this program im running is going to eat up all 4 gigs of ram in the next few minutes before it completes its task. will this be bad?
[04:16] <nickrud> bod_: iirc the first install will add it after debian automagic
[04:16] <kraypius> should i stop it?
[04:16] <bod_> monte, we have PM
[04:16] <bazhang> !etiquette | holycow
[04:16] <ubotwo> holycow: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[04:16] <holycow> bazhang: screw off
[04:16] <holycow> hows that for etiquette?
[04:16] <bod_> nickrud, iirc??? im scared,.,.,.
[04:16] <dinochopins> hi, is it normal for openoffice to have a recovery dialog every time it is opened ? it is very annoying.. why it is happening ?
[04:16] <nickrud> bod_: lol, I always add it after when I do int manually
[04:16] <monte> bod_: pm me then
[04:16] <holycow> bazhang: translation, mind your own business
[04:16] <bod_> holycow, hey bazhang's cool give him a break
[04:16] <bazhang> holycow calm down
[04:16] <bod_> bazhang, hey dude
[04:16] <holycow> not a frickin chance
[04:16] <bazhang> heya bod_
[04:17] <macogw> holycow, bod_: ok sorry i missed the part about putting it before *all* the config stuff. i was afraid it was going inside the "automagic" section
[04:17] <hedpe> I'm using a thinkpad, and whenever i do not use my computer for about 60 seconds, my screen dims... and when i move my mouse again it does NOT undim... anyone know what might be the issue? i have to use my keyboard to turn the brightness back up
[04:17] <macogw> bod_: ignore me
[04:17] <bod_> nickrud, well im gonna come running to you for grub help in the future ;~)
[04:17] <macogw> dinochopins: it crashed while you were doing something
[04:17] <bod_> macogw, thanks for the info, i had no idea about that pos prob ;~)
[04:17] <macogw> dinochopins: it thinks you want your crashed data back
[04:17] <bod_> bazhang, me is reinstalling again!! yay,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
[04:18] <bazhang> bod_: nice!
[04:18]  * bod_ was being sarcastic baz
[04:18] <bod_> monte, are you registered>
[04:18] <bod_> ?
[04:18] <monte> bod_: i got u message
[04:19] <monte> and probly not
[04:19] <bod_> monte, did u reply?
[04:19] <monte> yes
[04:19] <bod_> !register | monte
[04:19] <ubotwo> monte: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:19] <bod_> hey, what happened to the bit about telling them you have to be registered to pm???
[04:19] <Ninesvnsicks> hello
[04:19] <bod_> factoids are changing!!! im scared *again*
[04:19] <broadcomlol> Is there anyone with knowledge of broadcom4318 rev02 wireless cards?
[04:20] <dinochopins> macogw, everytime ? hm...
[04:20] <bod_> broadcomlol, probably
[04:20] <Riekal> can someone help me with dual-boot XP / UBUNTU?
[04:20] <monte> register me
[04:20] <bod_> Riekal, install wondows first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:20] <dinochopins> Riekal, yes... what's wrong with it ?
[04:20] <Ninesvnsicks> I"m installing Ubuntu Desktop and I'm stuck at the partitioner
[04:20] <Riekal> well this is my first time setting up this
[04:20] <Riekal> so i dont know what direction to go in
[04:20] <Ninesvnsicks> do I want to make the ext3 first or the swap
[04:20] <bazhang> Riekal: listen to bod_ and install xp first ;]
[04:20] <Ninesvnsicks> it's been a while
[04:20] <node357> hi Ninesvsnicks
[04:20] <Riekal> XP is installed
[04:21] <monte> bod_: how do i register
[04:21] <mlLK>  compiz-fusion
[04:21] <node357> I think I played you on Unreal Co Op
[04:21] <bod_> Riekal, im reinstalling ubuntu cause i installed windows second..........
[04:21] <Ninesvnsicks> OMG
[04:21] <Ninesvnsicks> yeah
[04:21] <gvsa123> Riekal: make a partition for ubuntu then
[04:21] <node357> :)
[04:21] <bod_> monte, follow the instructions on the link ubotu gave u
[04:21] <Riekal> ext3?
[04:21] <BryanG4> so you need a good step by step how to ?
[04:21] <Ninesvnsicks> thats awesome
[04:21] <Ninesvnsicks> Node357: yeah i used to run 976 online
[04:21] <guero> can someone help my change the icon for gimp? i'm not exactly sure myself
[04:21] <node357> nice
[04:21] <gvsa123> Riekal: wait.. i'm getting the link
[04:22] <node357> cant talk though, got company.. good luck
[04:22] <bazhang> Riekal: the ubuntu installer will see your xp install and ask if you want to resize the partition; you can then safely install ubuntu next to it and then choose which you want to boot from the grub menu upon startup
[04:22] <prince_jammys> guero: the menu icon?
[04:22] <node357> FYI you know SVSNICK is an IRC services commandÉ
[04:22] <bod_> guero, type   locate gimp |grep png           that will find gimp icons, then its one in a app-install folder
[04:22] <Ninesvnsicks> Node357: Its been a while since i used linux i'm at the partitioner for ubuntu desktop does it matter which part I add first swap or ext3?
[04:22] <guero> prince_jammys: no, the desktop icon
[04:23] <Riekal> bazhang ok..i'll see if it works for me, im doing it right now
[04:23] <node357> Ninesvnsicks, usually not. the normal method is to create a primary partition then the swap but I`ve often made the swap first
[04:23] <macogw> dinochopins: if you never completed teh recovery, itll keep asking
[04:23] <prince_jammys> guero: right click on it first and then click on the icon to change it
[04:23] <prince_jammys> guero: right click -> properties. and the click on the icon
[04:23] <guero> prince_jammys & bod_: thanks a lot guys
[04:23] <Ninesvnsicks> Node357: ok well i have winxp installed already on the first half of the drive
[04:23] <bod_> guero, prince_jammys way is better ,.,. but mines more fun ;~)
[04:24] <Ninesvnsicks> Node357: so do i still want the ext3 to be primary?
[04:24] <node357> yes I would think so
[04:24] <guero> thanks guys
[04:24] <node357> the partioner should leave your XP partition and use all available space
[04:24] <gregcha117> my sound stopped working suddenly can someone help me out?
[04:24] <bod_> gregbrady, what did you do to break it?
[04:24] <Ninesvnsicks> Node357: ok for swap do I want it at beginning or end and logical or primary?
[04:24] <monte> register <lokey>
[04:25] <bod_> Ninesvnsicks, generally at the end
[04:25] <gregcha117> bod: opened up a dvd iso in kaffeine, it worked fine until i got past the menu then stopped
[04:25] <bod_> monte, i think you meant to typ   /msg nickserv register lokey
[04:25] <monte> hell i dont know wat i am doing
[04:26] <bazhang> gregcha117: you can also use vlc for that
[04:26] <Ninesvnsicks> and primary or lgoical for swap from what i remember it usually doesnt as k me that
[04:26] <bod_> gregbrady, does all your other sound work? its just bad sound on a dvd?
[04:26] <Riekal> bazhang ok so it boots to ubuntu then on the desktop allows you to install from there
[04:26] <Riekal> :
[04:26] <bazhang> Riekal: aye ;]
[04:26] <gregcha117> bazhang: yeah i know, i tryed that after thats when i realized i had no sound
[04:26] <bod_> monte, type exactly what i say              /msg nickserv register lokey0
[04:26] <bod_> monte, oops,. without the 0 on the end
[04:26] <gregcha117> i restarted and theres still no sound on ubuntu, its fine on my windows boot but somethings gone strange with ubuntu
[04:27] <bazhang> gregcha117: have you typed alsamixer into the terminal and made sure that nothing is muted?
[04:27] <thinman1189> How do I burn a DVD movie? I have both K3b and gnomebaker but I'm not sure how. The files I want are on my computer and not extracted from a DVD.
[04:27] <Ninesvnsicks> does it matter id swap is logical or primary?
[04:27] <gregcha117> bazhang: yep
[04:28] <monte> it is saying monte is already registerd
[04:28] <Starnestommy> Ninesvnsicks: I don't think so
[04:28] <Frogzoo> Ninesvnsicks: nope
[04:28] <gregcha117> bazhang: everythings at normal levels
[04:28] <Ninesvnsicks> ok
[04:28] <bazhang> thinman you might give devede a try
[04:28] <bod_> gregbrady, do you have more then 1 sound card,. like a sound card and motherboard soundcard?
[04:28] <bod_> gregcha117, ^^^
[04:28] <bazhang> err thinman1189 you might give devede a try
[04:29] <gregcha117> bod: nope just onboard
[04:29] <Ninesvnsicks> and i'm assuming beginning primary for ext3?
[04:29] <bod_> Ninesvnsicks, why are you doing it manually may i ask,.,. the guided use continuous free space will give you the same result and less hassle
[04:29] <BeauGeste> I can not mount windows shares in Hardy Heron Alpha 6. I am using the same /etc/fstab as i did in gutsy gibbon
[04:30] <monte> bod_: it is saying monte is all ready registered
[04:30] <bod_> BeauGeste, dont moan about Hardy its not finished
[04:30] <Ninesvnsicks> because i have windows xp as well
[04:30] <BeauGeste> not moaning just asking if this a problem or me
[04:30] <Ninesvnsicks> on a different part
[04:30] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, it will automatically reformat the ext3 partition when you install
[04:31] <bazhang> BeauGeste: that would be #ubuntu+1 thanks ;]
[04:31] <Ninesvnsicks> i have ntfs and freespace
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> BeauGeste, If you dont ask in Hardy they wont know if THEY have a problem, which is why we send Hardy users there.
[04:31] <BeauGeste> np
[04:31] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, what are you using to repartition
[04:32] <Ninesvnsicks> well i partitioned it in half with xps install leaving half free space
[04:32] <Ninesvnsicks> now i'm partitioning the freespace
[04:32] <cornfused> have you already partitioned the swap?
[04:33] <Ninesvnsicks> yeah
[04:33] <Ninesvnsicks> i set 1gb at end and logical
[04:33] <Ninesvnsicks> now i just need the ext3
[04:33] <Newbuntu2> is there a howto/primer somewhere that explains how to interact with a device driver?
[04:33] <Cann0n> best linux advice i have, hit up a local goodwill and hope u find a linux for dummies
[04:33] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, just partition the rest as ext3 primary
[04:34] <cornfused> and then install
[04:34] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: what kind?
[04:34] <Ninesvnsicks> ok beginning?
[04:34] <chrome> omg, I got compiz working on nvidia with dual displays and twinview
[04:34] <chrome> *awesome*
[04:34] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, that is the amount of space to leave, so if you want empty space, change that, otherwise leave it
[04:34] <chrome> this is sick
[04:35] <Newbuntu2> bazhang:  http://rafb.net/p/lJ2EHd35.html
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: yeah, its actually pretty easy w/ Nvidia.. ATI.. not so.
[04:35] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: would that be wireless?
[04:35] <Newbuntu2> usb data acquisition
[04:35] <chrome> IndyGunFreak: I had a little trouble with it at the start, but its working perfectly now. Desktop cube is WIDE ahha
[04:36] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: ftp://lx10.tx.ncsu.edu/pub/Linux/drivers/USB/
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: yes it is... compiz looks freakish w/ dual screens.
[04:36] <LogicalDash> Flash Player doesn't seem to be listening when I change my keyboard layout--any way to fix?
[04:36] <bazhang> Newbuntu2: still in the dark here; what exact kind of usb device, or all of them
[04:36] <poseidon> How hard would It be to install a kernel module from a usb?
[04:37] <poseidon> If I don't have a NIC to use to downloa it
[04:37] <Newbuntu2> bazhang: USB 1208FS (see http://www.measurementcomputing.com/cbicatalog/cbiproduct_new.asp?dept_id=412&pf_id=1665&mscssid=0JD6QWHUNMA89LBM4J24LG3EEH634JM2 for the device)
[04:37] <thinman1189> bazhang thanks I'll check it out
[04:37] <marckie> Hello!
[04:37] <bazhang> thinman1189: okay come back if you have questions ;]
[04:37] <eatatjoes2> does anyone know how to install flashplayer and the flashplayer plugin for mozilla?
[04:38] <c01100011> to get changes to my emerald theme to apply I have to change the window decorator to GTK and then back, new packages/fix ?
[04:38] <cornfused> it should come up to install it if you try to play a flash
[04:38] <marckie> eatatjoes2: are you in 32 or 64bit
[04:38] <chrome> IndyGunFreak: i do wonder now how I can make maximise only maximise onto the one screen instead of across both
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[04:38] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:38] <eatatjoes2> marckie, 32
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: thats in your nvidia-settings..
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not at my PC today, but thats where it is..
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> its one fo the settings there,
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: youre probably also having the issue when you have to log in as root, the place where you enter the password, is in between 2 monitors.
[04:40] <marckie> install the ubuntu-restricted-extra
[04:40] <marckie> its all there eatatjoes2
[04:40] <chrome> IndyGunFreak: yerp
[04:40] <chrome> IndyGunFreak: is it the MetaMode thing?
[04:40] <eatatjoes2> okay, how do i know which ones i need to install?
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: yeah, its a setting in nvidia-settings.. iw ish i coudl remember it, but basically, it makes 1 monitor like the "default".. mode.
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> chrome: no.. not athat i don't think
[04:41] <cornfused> chrome: is it an nvidia card
[04:41] <marckie> eatatjoes2: its just one file in synaptic which includes everything you'll need...
[04:41] <kstan> server: irc.gnome.org
[04:41] <marckie> from java to flash and mp3 stuff
[04:41] <chrome> cornfused: yeah, 7800GT
[04:41] <l815> where is JDK installed in ubuntu?
[04:42] <c01100011> !compiz
[04:42] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:42] <bloody`> evening
[04:42] <marckie> !ubuntu-restricted-extra
[04:42] <ubotwo> marckie: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[04:42] <cornfused> chrome, then just go to a terminal and type 'gksudo nvidia-settings'
[04:42] <marckie> be right back... need to eat lunch...
[04:42] <chrome> cornfused: yeah, running it now, I just don't know which setting it is :P
[04:42] <marckie> im not a bot...
[04:42] <marckie> lol
[04:42] <chrome> Oh, "Make this the primary display for the X screen"
[04:43] <cornfused> chrome, have you reboot since changing it? when I did it, I had to reboot twice before it would maximize correctly
[04:43] <bloody`> !whois marckie
[04:43] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[04:43] <bloody`> hah
[04:43] <eatatjoes2> marckie,  im new to this, i still dont see where ur talking about
[04:44] <Abu-Aadam> !grub
[04:44] <ubotwo> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:44] <cornfused> !nvidia
[04:44] <ubotwo> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:44] <Coded1> i was curious and got a copy of Hardy xubuntu for a widescreen laptop.  it booted well but the desktop fonts are huge, like "Applications" takes up the top 1/3 of the screen
[04:44] <mandrig> Hey, when I try to connect to a wep secure network, my computer freezes... Can anyone help?
[04:45] <cornfused> Coded1, are you sure that's not your resolution
[04:45] <Coded1> its almost impossible to navigate
[04:45] <Coded1> i tried using "ctrl + alt + '+' "
[04:46] <Coded1> is that the right one?
[04:46] <eatatjoes2> marckie, nevermind i got it
[04:46] <cornfused> Coded1, I'm not sure about the shortcut, check in the screen resolution item of one of the menus
[04:47] <cornfused> Coded1, is it panning?
[04:47] <Coded1> 2 menu items take up the entire screen
[04:47] <Coded1> nope
[04:47] <chrome> cornfused: its working for me now, thanks :)
[04:47] <bloody`> coded: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[04:47] <Coded1> cool
[04:47] <Coded1> ~pastebin
[04:47] <bloody`> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <Coded1> :)
[04:48] <cornfused> !help
[04:48] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:48] <Coded1> how do i take a screen shot?
[04:48] <mandrig> when  I try to connect to a wep secured network, my entire computer freezes, what can I do?
[04:49] <bloody`> coded: just paste the config for now
[04:49] <gregcha117> ugh im still missing my sound
[04:49] <bloody`> no need for a SS
[04:49] <Coded1> np
[04:50] <l815> what does it mean when a file has a lock icon on it?
[04:50] <bloody`> its locked
[04:51] <pancho_> hello
[04:51] <bloody`> hi
[04:51] <l815> how do i unlock it?
[04:51] <cornfused> l815, that;s a permissions thing, typically it means you only have read permissions
[04:51] <bloody`> pancho: what file
[04:51] <l815> cornfused, how can I unlock it?
[04:51] <pancho_> i need help with my snes emulator en 7.10 please
[04:51] <cornfused> l815, sudo chmod xxx filename
[04:51] <bloody`> chmod 755 <file>
[04:51] <l815> thank you both :)
[04:51] <pancho_> i open zsnes, but it closes itself T_T
[04:51] <cornfused> l815, change xxx to the mode you want for it
[04:52] <pancho_> who can help me with that?
[04:52] <bloody`> pancho: did you build from source?
[04:52] <mandrig> when I try to connect to a wep secured network, my computer freezes, can anyone help?
[04:52] <pancho_> nope, i installed it from synaptic
[04:52] <cornfused> mandrig, what's your wireless card
[04:52] <bloody`> mandrig: wireless is really hit-or-miss in linux still
[04:52] <pancho_> nope, i installed it from synapti
[04:52] <bloody`> pancho: try compiling from source
[04:52] <pancho_> okay
[04:53] <bloody`> pancho: make sure you remove the old package, first
[04:53] <mandrig> cornfused: realtek rt8187
[04:53] <cornfused> mandrig, did it work out of the box?
[04:53] <bloody`> mandrig: i have an rtl8180 that works
[04:53] <bloody`> oob
[04:53] <mandrig> cornfused: it works on non-wep networks, (open authentication)
[04:54] <Louie247> usb? mandrig?
[04:54] <mandrig> Louie247: no, PCI
[04:54] <Louie247> get the drivers from realtek?
[04:54] <bloody`> rtl drivers come with linux
[04:54] <cornfused> mandrig, like bloody` said, it really is just hit and miss with those
[04:54] <mandrig> Louie247: what bloody says
[04:55] <Louie247> ah
[04:55] <l815> i just installed JDK but have no idea where i saved T-T
[04:55] <mandrig> but its only on WEP
[04:55] <l815> *installed
[04:55] <Ninesvnsicks> well that didn't work lol
[04:55] <Chipsa964> so i downloaded hardy heron and im trying it out on livecd...should i do a full install of it or stick with gutsy for now?
[04:55] <bloody`> l815 try 'which JDK'
[04:55] <Ninesvnsicks> Looks liek the hard drive is gone
[04:55] <cwillu> Chipsa964, stick with gutsy
[04:55] <l815> bloody', what do you mean?
[04:55] <Chipsa964> cwillu, oh ok
[04:55] <cwillu> Chipsa964, if you need something from hardy, there's a backport repository you can download packages from
[04:56] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, unless you took it out, it's still there
[04:56] <RoAkSoAx> !motu
[04:56] <bloody`> l8: run that command
[04:56] <ubotwo> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[04:56] <Ninesvnsicks> lol
[04:56] <cornfused> Ninesvnsicks, where are you seeing this
[04:56] <l815> bloody' ah okay
[04:56] <cwillu> Chipsa964, unless you enjoy fixing a random thing every time you update :p
[04:56] <Ninesvnsicks> I mean dead
[04:56] <Chipsa964> cwillu, my internal mic works in hardy
[04:56] <Ninesvnsicks> works no more hehe
[04:56] <RoAkSoAx> !development
[04:56] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[04:56] <Chipsa964> but not in gutsy
[04:56] <RoAkSoAx> !develope
[04:56] <Ninesvnsicks> node357: do you still play unreal?
[04:56] <chrome> now the only problem i have is gnome-terminal windows getting corrupted when they are not the selected window
[04:56] <l815> bloody' it returns nothing
[04:57] <Chipsa964> and thats the only thing thats messin me up in gutsy...i want my mic to work
[04:57] <cwillu> Chipsa964, it'll be in a proper beta soon (i.e., not expected to break things, although it still may), it'd be more advisable to wait for that
[04:57] <Lovecats> hi again :D
[04:57] <bloody`> l8: run 'updatedb', then run 'locate JDK'
[04:57] <bazhang> RoAkSoAx: what are you looking for? you can /msg the bot you know
[04:57] <Lovecats> can someone help me to get my wireless setup please? :D
[04:57] <cornfused> Chipsa964, just wait till April when the proper release of Hardy Heron is
[04:57] <RoAkSoAx> bazhang, i didn't know that, thanks ;)
[04:57] <Chipsa964> cwillu, would you have any idea on how to get it to work in gutsy?
[04:57] <chrome> haha, no, which java
[04:58] <bazhang> Lovecats: gui or cli?
[04:58] <Lovecats> cli?
[04:58] <chrome> or which javac
[04:58] <bazhang> RoAkSoAx: no worries ;]
[04:58] <bloody`> !cli
[04:58] <ubotwo> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:58] <gregcha117> can someone help me get my sound back?
[04:58] <cwillu> Chipsa964, one more segment of my rant :p:  the work you need to do to make your mic work in gutsy is the type of thing you'd have to do every week or so if you follow the updates in hardy before it's stable :p
[04:58] <cwillu> annnnyways
[04:58] <bloody`> greg: try #alsa
[04:58] <cwillu> one sec Chipsa964
[04:58] <gtt> anyone have any tips for deleting deleting duplicate files? fslint-gui kind of stinks
[04:58] <Chipsa964> ah ok
[04:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Lovecats here is the cli (command line) method in full ;]
[04:59] <Lovecats> i can get my computer to connect to the internet via my ethernet
[04:59] <Chipsa964> i mean, i have no problem waiting for hardy to be released
[04:59] <gtt> i'm about to switch video cards... anyone have any tips for a smooth install?
[04:59] <Chipsa964> i just wanna get it to work in gutsy :-p
[04:59] <bazhang> gtt buy nvidia ;]
[04:59] <bloody`> gtt: from what to what?
[04:59] <Lovecats> ah well im pretty good at unix CLI but i would rather use a gui :D
[04:59] <guero> hey is there a way to change the icon for specific files like mp3's? appreciate the help
[04:59] <cwillu> Chipsa964, what version of alsa-base does synaptic say you have in gutsy?
[04:59] <gtt> from a nvidia6600 to an nvidia 6200.
[04:59] <cornfused> Lovecats, what's the card?
[04:59] <Lovecats> i have run that lshw -C network command but i dont see a wireless i only see a wired
[04:59] <bazhang> Lovecats: then network manager should do fine; what wireless card
[05:00] <Lovecats> well its a gateway
[05:00] <Lovecats> (sigh) :D
[05:00] <bloody`> gtt: downgrading? it should be autodetected, and will more than likelikely use the same driver
[05:00] <cornfused> Lovecats, lspci
[05:00] <Lovecats> lemme check their website
[05:00] <Chipsa964> cwillu, hold on, i havent installed gutsy yet...im still running Vista :(
[05:00] <Lovecats> k one sec
[05:00] <bazhang> Lovecats: try lspci if it is internal and lsusb if it is a usb dongle
[05:00] <Chipsa964> so let me load it up real quick and ill tell you
[05:00] <Lovecats> its internal
[05:00] <cwillu> Chipsa964, np, I can check
[05:00] <Lovecats> lspci returns lots of stuff lemme grep on wireless
[05:01] <Chipsa964> oh ok
[05:01] <raju>  live cd booting ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[05:01] <l815> is there a way I can find out what version of a program is in the repositories?
[05:01] <Lovecats> doesnt look like i have any wireless device =X
[05:01] <Chipsa964> cwillu, do you mind if i ask you in PM? my eyes are killin me in here
[05:01] <gtt> bloody`: so my only necessary step should be physically swapping the cards? downgrading because of the fanless design.. the 6600 is going into a faster machine... it just makes more sense this way.
[05:01] <gordon> what is that X program which lets you remap mouse button presses into a key combination? (ie: mouse button 9 becomes CTRL+ALT+F)
[05:01] <gordon> i can't recall the name
[05:02] <bazhang> l815: sure /msg the bot with info packagename
[05:02] <Munchkinguy> Is it possible to set up VNC such that the client is not *controlling* the server, but rather simply running a second instance of the computer (like Virtualization)?
[05:02] <bloody`> gtt: yes, linux will take care of the rest.
[05:02] <l815> bazhang, which bot?
[05:02] <Lovecats> i knew i should not get a gateway lol but it was 400$ :D
[05:02] <gtt> nice
[05:02] <Bossmanbeta> Munchkinguy, yea set it for display :1
[05:02] <Bossmanbeta> instead of 0
[05:02] <gtt> i guess i should stop procrastinating and do it.
[05:02] <cwillu> Munchkinguy, vncserver can do that, not dead sure the package name
[05:02] <bazhang> l815: /msg ubotu or ubotwo info packagename
[05:02] <l815> bazhang, thanks
[05:03] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[05:03] <cornfused> Lovecats, look up your computer model and information and see if you can find a model for the wireless card there
[05:03] <Lovecats> ok
[05:03] <Lovecats> one sec
[05:03] <Munchkinguy> Thanks, I'll try that.
[05:03] <Lovecats> i think i did that b4
[05:03] <Bossmanbeta> Munchkinguy, you'll need to configure a server for display :1 before u try the client
[05:04] <Lovecats> 6008038R - Integrated Realtek 802.11b/g Wireless Networking (CRU/EURP)
[05:05] <Lovecats> here is the link
[05:05] <Lovecats> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/OasisC/1015266R/1015266Rnv.shtml
[05:06] <Lovecats> so i guess i need to find ubuntu support for Realtek?
[05:06] <cornfused> Lovecats, you might need to use ndiswrapper
[05:06] <Lovecats> ah
[05:06] <marckie> yeah i agree...
[05:06] <Lovecats> is this something i can download via the update manager?
[05:06] <yeonhoo> why does "./configure" checks for many things??? its checks for g77 and why??
[05:06] <marckie> im waiting for wine to be incorporated in kernel
[05:07] <Lovecats> im waiting for wine to be poured in my glass :)
[05:07] <cabrioleur> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <cornfused> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <Lovecats> k lemme try that one sec
[05:07] <cabrioleur> Who doesn't love ndiswrapper :-)
[05:07] <Starnestommy> yeonhoo: it needs to know what kind of things need to be changed to get something to build correctly
[05:07] <cornfused> I don't
[05:07] <cornfused> I'd perfer the card to work out of the box
[05:07] <Lovecats> i dont have ndiswrapper installed
[05:08] <Lovecats> so would i ;X
[05:08] <Lovecats> but then again u dont learn that way :D
[05:08] <cornfused> Lovecats, are you on the comp you are installing Linux on?
[05:08] <Lovecats> yessum
[05:08] <Lovecats> already installe ubuntu
[05:09] <Lovecats> *installed
[05:09] <Lovecats> everything went perfectly
[05:09] <cabrioleur> cornfused, it almost does. So easy and powerfull.
[05:09] <cabrioleur> Lovecats, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[05:09] <yeonhoo> Starnestommy,  Could you please give me some keyword to go deeper about this ?
[05:09] <Lovecats> cept my wireless
[05:09] <Lovecats> wired works fine
[05:09] <Lovecats> k downloading ndiswrapper
[05:09] <Lovecats> common
[05:09] <Lovecats> and utils
[05:09] <Lovecats> right now
[05:10] <cornfused> cabrioleur, all we need is the drivers actually made for Linux instead of it needing a wrapper
[05:10] <Starnestommy> yeonhoo: check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoconf or search for "./configure"
[05:10] <yeonhoo> Starnestommy, what i dont understand is when "checking for g77 ..... no " "checking for blablabla ..... no " and several lines repeating "no"
[05:10] <yeonhoo> Starnestommy,  thank you :)
[05:10] <Starnestommy> yeonhoo: some computers use blah, some don't
[05:11] <Lovecats> which software source do i have to "enable" to be able to download ndiswrapper from the net?
[05:11] <Starnestommy> Lovecats: I think universe
[05:11] <Lovecats> khx
[05:11] <Lovecats> kthx
[05:11] <prince_jammys> !find ndiswrapper
[05:11] <ubotwo> Found: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 3 others)
[05:11] <prince_jammys> !info ndiswrapper-common
[05:11] <cabrioleur> Lovecats, it's in main, it's even on cd.
[05:11] <cornfused> Lovecats, if you didn't have the wired internet hooked up during install your packages are going to be messed up right now
[05:11] <Lovecats> well i didnt
[05:11] <Lovecats> but
[05:11] <bloody`> !ndiswrapper | prince_jammys
[05:11] <ubotwo> prince_jammys: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <Lovecats> i was able to download updates
[05:12] <Lovecats> later
[05:12] <Lovecats> by enabling the software sources manually
[05:12] <cornfused> you did enable all the sources?
[05:12] <Lovecats> no
[05:12] <Lovecats> only core and universe
[05:12] <Lovecats> as u suggested
[05:12] <Starnestommy> and main?
[05:13] <Lovecats> yessum
[05:13] <Lovecats> damnit it keeps asking for a dis
[05:13] <Lovecats> disk
[05:13] <Lovecats> ah
[05:13] <Lovecats> it needs my install disk :D
[05:13] <bloody`> lovecats: what does
[05:13] <bloody`> no
[05:13] <Lovecats> the package manager
[05:13] <Lovecats> asking for disk
[05:13] <bloody`> comment that line out in sources.lst
[05:14] <lancerocke> when i boot into windows vista where i have ready boost enabled on my usb stick then boot into linux
[05:14] <lancerocke> any ideas?
[05:14] <bloody`> or uncheck it in the gui
[05:14] <lancerocke> when i boot into windows vista where i have ready boost enabled on my usb stick then boot into linux
[05:14] <iobelisk> hi, can anybody tell me what the channel for compiz-fusion is?
[05:14] <Lovecats> its all good
[05:14] <Lovecats> loading it up now
[05:14] <cwillu> !compiz
[05:14] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:14] <cwillu> stands to reason :p
[05:14] <iobelisk> thanks!
[05:14] <bloody`> haha
[05:14] <[dcr]> !vmware
[05:14] <ubotwo> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:14] <icolt45> SunTzu
[05:14] <Lovecats> so do i start ndiswrapper from the CLI?
[05:15] <bloody`> yes
[05:15] <Lovecats> k
[05:15] <Lovecats> i ran it
[05:15] <Lovecats> from the CLI
[05:15] <Lovecats> got the usage message
[05:15] <[dcr]> is there a VMWare channel that I can get help in?
[05:15] <alexbOrsova> when I press the shut down button, ubuntu unloads but doesn't turn the computer off completely. it just sits there until I press the power button to turn it off. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:15] <bloody`> !vmware
[05:15] <ubotwo> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:15] <raju>  live cd booting ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[05:15] <eatatjoes2> is there a command from the terminal to go lock the screen?
[05:15] <Lovecats> ok what now? :D
[05:16] <l815> what's the command to move a folder where i don't have permissions
[05:16] <bloody`> does it work?
[05:16] <Lovecats> i just ran it
[05:16] <Lovecats> it tells me
[05:16] <Lovecats> i need to provide command line args
[05:16] <jrib> l815: what do you want to do exactly?
[05:16] <bloody`> lovecats: run iwconfig see if ssid shows up
[05:16] <jrib> !enter | Lovecats
[05:16] <ubotwo> Lovecats: <reply> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:16] <[dcr]> ubotwo: im not trying to ask about VMWare Player, I want to know if VMWare workshop works with ubuntu Gutsy
[05:16] <Y-Town> I have a constant battle with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse loosing connection everytime I reboot.  The mouse keyboard combo is a logitech mx5000 that uses a bluetooth usb adapter..   Anyone know of a fix or known issues?
[05:16] <Lovecats> iwconfig shows nothing =X
[05:16] <[dcr]> workstation*
[05:16] <l815> jrib, move a folder to /usr/lib but it says i dont have permission
[05:16] <bloody`> [dcr]: talking to a bot wont help
[05:16] <bradley> can anyone help me get Wine setup up with itunes running
[05:16] <deeproot> mplayer kills my internet connection when i'm watching something, any ideas on where to start lookin for the problem
[05:17] <bradley> i have all the files downloaded
[05:17] <raju>  live cd booting what i created based on the doc provided in ubuntu doc site ,but throwing  the error is like " Does not exist Dropping to shell "
[05:17] <jrib> l815: what are you trying to do?  You shouldn't need to do that
[05:17] <[dcr]> bloody`: thats why i asked if theres a channel or something i can go to -.-
[05:17] <Lovecats> bloody may i msg u?
[05:17] <bloody`> love: sure
[05:17] <bradley> can anyone help me get wine setup with itunes
[05:17] <l815> jrib, im trying to move the JDK folder to there so i know it's with the other java instillation
[05:18] <cabrioleur> eatatjoes2, gnome-screensaver-command -a
[05:18] <jrib> l815: sun's jdk is packaged and in the repositories
[05:18] <alexbOrsova> when I press the shut down button, ubuntu unloads but doesn't turn the computer off completely. it just sits there until I press the power button to turn it off. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:19] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, do you have your acpi turned off?
[05:19] <l815> jrib, i didnt know the install name so i just downloaded it from the java site and it installed it into a folder on my desktop.
[05:19] <[dcr]> bradley: #wine
[05:19] <bluefoxx> ok, so im trying to enjoy my music but rhythmbox keeps crashing. running from terminal leaves just this: Rhythmbox: could not connect to socket Rhythmbox: No such file or directory Segmentation fault (core dumped). the first two appear on startup, the last when it crashes. why?
[05:19] <bradley> #wine
[05:19] <cornfused> l815, why do you need to move the jdk?
[05:19] <jrib> !java > l815 (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:19] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: how can I tell?
[05:19] <abortd> anyone know how to get gl tron to go into full screen?
[05:19] <l815> cornfused, because i dont want it on my desktop :P
[05:19] <eatatjoes2> im trying to bind the windows key + L to lock screen (similar to XP) so im using xbindkeys config, but it doesnt seem to work (the command does but the key association doesnt)
[05:19] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, your boot options in grub config file.
[05:20] <cabrioleur> abortd, type gltron --help and the option will be there.
[05:20] <[dcr]> Does anyone know if VMWare Workstation works with Ubuntu Gutsy?
[05:20] <abortd> thanks
[05:20] <bloody`> dcr: it does
[05:20] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: no, i just checked. there is no mention of acpi in menu.lst
[05:20] <cornfused> l815, the package name is sun-java6-jre
[05:20] <l815> cornfused, i need JDK
[05:20] <[dcr]> Thank you bloody`,  do you actually have it installed?
[05:20] <deeproot> do they have a log file for the network card or network
[05:21] <l815> cornfused, i found it though, thanks
[05:21] <cornfused> l815, the package name is sun-java6-jdk
[05:21] <l815> thanks everyone :D
[05:21] <bloody`> dcr: yes
[05:21] <cabrioleur> eatatjoes2, system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts (an easy way)
[05:21] <bloody`> dcr: runs vista
[05:21] <abortd> cabrioleur, i dont see it
[05:21] <eatatjoes2> ive tried it there but it doesnt work for some reason
[05:21] <l815> cornfused, but where does the install folder go? i need to know to install netbeans
[05:21] <Cpudan80> Hey all
[05:21] <Y-Town> I have a constant battle with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse loosing connection everytime I reboot.  The mouse keyboard combo is a logitech mx5000 that uses a bluetooth usb adapter..   Anyone know of a fix or known issues?
[05:21] <Cpudan80> The updater wants to download updates for tzdata and PHPMyAdmin --- but they are not authd --- are they ok?
[05:21] <[dcr]> bloody`: I've got vista as a dual boot but if I can get VMWare to run XP or whatever for me just fine than I'll be aok lol
[05:21] <cornfused> l815, if you install the package instead of manual install, netbeans finds it automatically
[05:22] <l815> cornfused, yah that's right. thanks
[05:23] <[dcr]> bloody`: do you know how to get one of the trial keys or anything for VMWare?
[05:23] <Hisotaso> does anyone know how to fix the blurry fonts in ubuntu gutsy? im running the restriced nvidia drivers if that matters
[05:23] <Starnestommy> Hisotaso: sounds like a refresh rate problem
[05:24] <Hisotaso> i have only one option
[05:24] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, type sudo lsmod in terminal and past in pastebin
[05:24] <darkcrab> you actually just reminded me, try going into appearance>fonts>subpixel smoothing
[05:24] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, maybe you don't have a module loaded for some reason
[05:24] <lancerocke> hi im having trouble installing Gimpshop.
[05:24] <lancerocke> http://pastebin.com/m65719cef
[05:24] <lancerocke> any ideas?
[05:24] <Hisotaso> ya ive been messing with that stuff as per the forums, but no change
[05:25] <pianoboy3333> How can I rip the audio off of a dvd with mencoder?
[05:25] <darkcrab> there really isnt any advantage with gimpshop over gimp
[05:25] <alexbOrsova> !pastebin
[05:25] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <lancerocke> Anyone?
[05:25] <Coded1> pate.ubuntu-nl.org/58955/ (my xorg.conf) Fonts are huge for Hardy on live cd boot up Alpha 6
[05:26] <kenny`> wow so many linux users! :) I`m impressed :)
[05:26] <cabrioleur> abortd, there is a lancerocke, install libart or libart-dev
[05:26] <Coded1> http://paste.ubntu-nl.org/58955/
[05:26] <darkcrab> why do you need to use hardy Coded, some particular reason?
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Hisotaso: on lcd - enable sub pixel rendering in fonts preferences
[05:26] <darkcrab> yea I just said that frog
[05:26] <Hisotaso> ya
[05:26] <cornfused> kenny`: Linux > all other OS's. Why wouldn't we use it
[05:26] <lancerocke> cabrioleur: ok brb
[05:26] <Hisotaso> that is actually the default option that was on
[05:26] <Hisotaso> also
[05:26] <plux> kenny`: no, we are all Windows Vista users, and this channel is just a coverup :P
[05:26] <Coded1> no particular, just figured I would ask incase it was an easy fix
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Coded1: hardy in #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58956/
[05:26] <astheo> hi, my "appearance preferences windows" isnt working after i installed emrad..
[05:26] <Hisotaso> the fonts seem blurrier in the center of the screen
[05:26] <Coded1> cool
[05:26] <Coded1> ty
[05:27] <abortd> what cabrioleur ?
[05:27] <Cpudan80> When I try to open a DVD in VLC, the program crashes --- any ideas why that might happen?
[05:27] <kenny`> i want to work underciver too :D
[05:27] <cornfused> astheo: did you mean emerald?
[05:27] <astheo> yup emerald
[05:27] <cornfused> astheo: it's under Emerald theme manager
[05:27] <darkcrab> do you have the DVD codecs from medibuntu installed cpudan?
[05:27] <abortd> brb reboot
[05:27] <cabrioleur> abortd, sorry man. I miss-typed something.
[05:28] <Lovecats> !ndiswrapper
[05:28] <bloody`> !ndiswrapper
[05:28] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: do you have any guesses? I have to go to sleep in a few minutes because it's 2 AM here, but I appreciate your help.
[05:29] <[dcr]> bloody`: with the VMWare install it says I need a C compiler aswell, do you have any recommendations?
[05:29] <astheo> yup, but i cant get my emerald working so i uninstalled it. however when i tried to load the appearance window it is not working anymore. i can't click on the buttons
[05:29] <yeonhoo> how can i put "/usr/lib" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[05:29] <kenny`> I want to ask maybe a stupid question, but I need to know... everywhere I see how-to`s on installing beryl with Nvidia! but if i have other video card? can I still install beryl?
[05:29] <cornfused> kenny`: beryl is outdated
[05:29] <darkcrab> i have a question, why does firefox prompt you to install gnash or adobe flashplayer when neither of them work?
[05:30] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, type "sudo echo "apm power_off=1" >> /etc/modules"
[05:30] <cornfused> darkcrab: usually, either one works
[05:30] <darkcrab> i had to download adobe flashplayer from the adobe website
[05:30] <kenny`> confused: what you mean? is there anything common?
[05:30] <cornfused> kenny`: compiz-fusion = compiz + beryl
[05:31] <cornfused> !compiz-fusion
[05:31] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:31] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: ok, i did that. should I shut down the computer to test it?
[05:31] <jrib> darkcrab: both install fine.  Have you enabled the -updates repository?
[05:31] <cabrioleur> alexbOrsova, it might work next time you power up, it will not this time. You can test if you want.
[05:31] <kenny`> cornfused: i see. can i install it on other video cards?
[05:31] <alexbOrsova> cabrioleur: thanks again for your help.
[05:31] <astheo> how to stop firefox download manager. i closed it but it's still runnig and hidden somewhere?
[05:32] <darkcrab> yea, neither the non-free adobe install or the gnash install worked for me.
[05:32] <yeonhoo> how can i put "/usr/lib" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? Somebody please can help me?
[05:32] <cornfused> kenny`: as long as you have the right driver and the video card can handle it
[05:32] <uptownben> Hi all, I am trying to install Ubuntu on my IBM Thinkpad X24, I really want to switch to Ubuntu but all previous version had a problem with the built-in compact flash card slot. It seems this version has the same problem, anyone heard of this or a solution?
[05:32] <cabrioleur> astheo, "killall firefox-bin"
[05:32] <astheo> thanks
[05:32] <darkcrab> i mean the actual drivers did not work.
[05:32] <ghindo> darkcrab:  I've heard of a problem that prevents Flash from installing properly, but am not sure how to fix it.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:32] <darkcrab> I downloaded them
[05:32] <jrib> darkcrab: do you want to troubleshoot it now or have you resolved your issue?
[05:32] <darkcrab> but they didnt work
[05:32] <SayaSe> Hi er, my Gutsy doesn't require a password for administrative applications anymore ... yes I've waited 15 minutes and restarted some times. What'd I mess up?
[05:32] <darkcrab> its resolved. Got it from the adobe website. I just think its stupid.
[05:33] <astheo> confused : yup, but i cant get my emerald working so i uninstalled it. however when i tried to load the appearance window it is not working anymore. i can't click on the buttons
[05:33] <yeonhoo> how can i put "/usr/lib" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? Somebody please can help me?
[05:33] <chrome> darkcrab: yes, its stupid.
[05:33] <dns53> export VARIABLE=value
[05:33] <astheo> cornfused : yup, but i cant get my emerald working so i uninstalled it. however when i tried to load the appearance window it is not working anymore. i can't click on the buttons
[05:33] <ghindo> SayaSe:  You probably made your main account a root account - check the Users and Groups section of System -> Administration
[05:33] <chrome> darkcrab: its not obvious that the correct way is to just apt-get the flash plugin
[05:33] <kenny`> cornfused: thanks! I`ll give it  a chance :D
[05:33] <jester7> i'm pretty sure that flash install problem has been fixed
[05:33] <darkcrab> yea exactly chrome
[05:33] <chrome> and firefox tries to be helpful but fails.
[05:34] <jrib> chrome: firefox pops up a big yellow bar when you need flash, that's pretty obvious
[05:34] <yeonhoo> thank you dns53  !!
[05:34] <jrib> anyway, this is offtopic
[05:34] <cornfused> astheo: do the buttons appear, or are they not there altogether
[05:34] <rashind> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to get my HTPC up and running, but for some reason neither of my DVD-RW drives is able to read a CSS DVD.  They're both set region 1, they're both able to read data DVDs, and I've run the install css shell script in libdvdread3...  so I don't know what the problem is.
[05:34] <chrome> jrib: yeah, agreed. Sorry.
[05:34] <chrome> *about being offtopic :P
[05:34] <darkcrab> whats the topic.
[05:34] <jrib> darkcrab: ubuntu support
[05:34] <yeonhoo> dns53, and how can i see the value of variable?
[05:34] <chrome> darkcrab: its a support channel, not a whinge channel :P
[05:34] <darkcrab> true
[05:34] <cornfused> !topic
[05:34] <ubotwo> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:35] <dns53> env
[05:35] <yeonhoo> dns53,  thank you again
[05:35] <bloody`> !whining
[05:35] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[05:35] <cabrioleur> rashind, do you have any errors when trying to write dvd's?
[05:35] <[dcr]> bloody`: would you mind if I messaged you about the installation of VMWare?
[05:35] <[dcr]> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <chrome> darkcrab: installing flashplugin-nonfree works also, without going to adobe's site.
[05:35] <bloody`> sure, why notttttt
[05:35] <yeonhoo> dns53,  it said yeonhoo@mairoet:~$ env LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[05:35] <yeonhoo> env: LD_LIBRARY_PATH: No such file or directory
[05:35] <rashind> cabrioleur, I haven't tried writing one yet.  I'll do that now.
[05:36] <astheo> cornfused : they all appear, but i can't click any of them. they are disabled or something
[05:36] <SayaSe> My account isn't in the root group ... however all groups appear to be listed twice, some thrice.
[05:36] <chrome> Hey has anyone got sound in flash working so that rhythmbox and flash can both play sound? If I'm using rhythmbox, I get no sound in flash.
[05:36] <cabrioleur> rashind, sorry, I confused myself.
[05:36] <chrome> its like, one of them isn't using the mixer.
[05:37] <darkcrab> tried that one chrome and it did not work for me.
[05:37] <cornfused> astheo: push alt+F2 and type gtk-window-decorator
[05:37] <jrib> SayaSe: there is no root group
[05:37] <cornfused> astheo: change that
[05:37] <SayaSe> A group called 'root' then.
[05:37] <cabrioleur> rashind, make sure you have libdvdnav installed as well.
[05:37] <cornfused> astheo: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[05:37] <jrib> SayaSe: there's no such thing by default
[05:37] <cabrioleur> rashind, what application are you using?
[05:37] <darkcrab> you have to download all the codecs I believe chrome.
[05:37] <j_humphrey> how can I change the default system theme for the top panel?
[05:38] <SayaSe> Group name 'root', Group ID 0. I reinstalled Gutsy just yesterday so I don't know why it's there.
[05:38] <jrib> SayaSe: well I lie, but your users won't be part of it
[05:38] <chrome> codecs?
[05:38] <chrome> hmm.
[05:38] <darkcrab> gstreamer, do you know about the gstreamer codecs?
[05:38] <chrome> i shall google some.
[05:38] <cabrioleur> j_humphrey, click on it with right click and go to properties
[05:38] <rashind> cabrioleur, k9copy, dvdshrink through wine, totem...  nothing will read a CSS DVD
[05:38] <jrib> !who | SayaSe
[05:38] <ubotwo> SayaSe: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:38] <NETWizz> Hi
[05:38] <Starnestommy> SayaSe: did you manually edit /etc/sudoers?
[05:39] <NETWizz> I have a problem with my audio; I think
[05:39] <j_humphrey> cabrioleur, that doesnt work, i can change the background, but the inactive theme still shows through
[05:39] <SayaSe> jrib: Yeah. My user isn't part of it, yet I can open Synaptic etc without password. That's the weird thing.
[05:39] <SayaSe> Starnestommy: No.
[05:39] <jrib> SayaSe: what groups is your user in?
[05:39] <NETWizz> Anyway, I cannot play flash, music or anything after installing a different monterboard
[05:39] <NETWizz> Everything was fine before the upgrade
[05:39] <j_humphrey> cabrioleur, it's the same problem as this guy: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=674499
[05:39] <NETWizz> I moved to an ABIT KN8-SLI Nforce 4 SLI board
[05:40] <Frogzoo> NETWizz: run memtest from the grub prompt for a bit..
[05:40] <cabrioleur> rashind, you said that you have libdvdcss installed, right?
[05:40] <SayaSe> jrib, any convenient way to find that out?
[05:40] <cornfused> NETWizz: is it an onboard sound card?
[05:40] <astheo> cornfused: it isnt working still, can i just uninstall it and install another one?
[05:40] <NETWizz> I can do that but why?
[05:40] <rashind> cabrioleur: libdvdnav4 is installed, I can burn DVDs and read those dvds
[05:40] <NETWizz> Yes, onboard
[05:40] <jrib> SayaSe: type "groups"
[05:40] <NETWizz> I am using the same processor and RAM I used on my previous VIA ECS board
[05:40] <darkcrab> wow, thats way beyond the scope of my configuration abilities netwizz.
[05:40] <NETWizz> I did not want to change anything except the motherboard in this upgrade
[05:40] <jrib> !enter | NETWizz
[05:40] <cornfused> astheo: don't uninstall the metacity, just leave it and install another one to replace it
[05:40] <ubotwo> NETWizz: <reply> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:41] <SayaSe> jrib, "jan adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev"
[05:41] <rashind> cabrioleur: Yes, libdvdcss2 is installed
[05:41] <NETWizz> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[05:41] <chrome> NETWizz: not surprising that a completely different chipset will confuse things :) Do you have any custom alsa configuration files?
[05:41] <jrib> SayaSe: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[05:41] <NETWizz> chrome, I don't know
[05:41] <j_humphrey> does anyone know how to solve this problem? http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=674499
[05:41] <NETWizz> Please help me check my alsa config
[05:42] <cabrioleur> NETWizz, run "sudo alsaconf manually
[05:42] <NETWizz> -bash: alsaconf: command not found
[05:42] <chrome> cabrioleur: thanks, that was the command I was thinking of :)
[05:42] <cepheid> Hello all. I have recently installed Gutsy. I can connect to my wireless ap and load google, but no other sites. ZT laptop and netgear 802.11b router.
[05:42] <SayaSe> jrib, http://pastebin.com/dd0efbbb
[05:43] <iobelisk> quick question: if i dualboot two distros, is it recommended that i do not share home directory between both?
[05:43] <darkcrab> I do believe it is theme specific.
[05:43] <astheo> cornfused: ok. iafter i did the gtk-window-decorator --replace..it is now broke even more
[05:43] <cornfused> astheo: did it disappear
[05:43] <chrome> cabrioleur: maybe he needs alsa-tools
[05:43] <jrib> SayaSe: so you run "sudo -K", then try "sudo echo hi" and you are not prompted for a password?
[05:44] <astheo> cornfused: nope, still there but not all parts are present
[05:44] <chrome> hmm, not in there
[05:44] <cornfused> astheo: what do you mean by that
[05:44] <cabrioleur> NETWizz, as chrome suggested, make sure you have alsa-utils and alsa-tools installed (whichever applies)
[05:44] <NETWizz> Would a sound problem result in media players freezing up as soon as they try to load media
[05:44] <j_humphrey> does anyone know how to fix this problem: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=674499
[05:45] <SayaSe> jrib, yes it does ask for a password ... but it doesn't in System - Administration.
[05:45] <darkcrab> netwizz, sounds like you dont have the right codecs
[05:45] <NETWizz> IT worked fine before I moved the hard drive to a different motherboard
[05:45] <darkcrab> or they are improperly installed
[05:45] <NETWizz> I have flash installed and it works fine until I click on play
[05:45] <darkcrab> probably the configuration then.
[05:46] <cabrioleur> j_humphrey, yes. It's a bug in your theme. Contact the author.
[05:46] <NETWizz> For example, I can go to youtube and the menus work perfect in flash
[05:46] <darkcrab> you cant just change stuff in your system and not reconfigured linux.
[05:46] <darkcrab> its not windows
[05:46] <j_humphrey> cabrioleur, I've been changing to several different themes, and it still wont go away
[05:46] <jrib> SayaSe: ok, run "sudo -K" again and try "gksudo users-admin".  You are not prompted for a password?
[05:46] <astheo> cornfused: all are disabled..the tab buttons on the top. so with the add, edit, and customize..
[05:47] <SayaSe> jrib, yes it ask for a password this way.
[05:47] <rainarrow> Hello everyone, any here running Ubuntu on ATi X300 card? I can't get the framebuffer console to work
[05:47] <rashind> cabrioleur, No other ideas?
[05:47] <NETWizz> My system cannot find alsaconfig
[05:47] <NETWizz> root@ubserver:~# alsaconfig
[05:47] <NETWizz> -bash: alsaconfig: command not found
[05:47] <cepheid> Hello all. I have recently installed Gutsy. I can connect to my wireless ap and load google, but no other sites. ZT laptop and netgear 802.11b router.
[05:47] <cabrioleur> j_humphrey, I hate broken ubuntu gnome. Well, open terminal, kill the panel, load a new one from the terminal and catch the errors. Try to change the theme to see more what's going on.
[05:47] <Cann0n> yo, how do i kill the annoying system passwords every time i change something? thats new to me
[05:47] <darkcrab> NETWizz, if it was me, since I dont know jack shizz about configuring linux to that extent, I would back up my stuff and reinstall.
[05:48] <jrib> SayaSe: and if you run "sudo -K", and then go to your menu and try to access System -> administration -> Users and Groups, does it ask you for a password?
[05:48] <rainarrow> I tried "vesafb/radeonfb/vga16fb+fbcon", and the moment I do "modprobe fbcon", I could switch to my virtual terminal to confirm fbcon is working
[05:48] <NETWizz> I am hopeing to avoid doing that
[05:48] <rainarrow> but when I switch back to X, the system just hangs
[05:48] <Cann0n> NETWizz, ubuntu doesnt come with alsamixer
[05:48] <cabrioleur> rashind, what is the highest number at the end of libraries when you type "ls /usr/lib/libdvdcss*"?
[05:48] <Flannel> Cann0n: you dont want to.  You won't be changing things like that much after an initial period.  And its much safer
[05:48] <SayaSe> jrib, no it does not.
[05:48] <rainarrow> the comp is a Thinkpad T43, with Dothen/915/ATi X300
[05:48] <chrome> NETWizz: try this sound solution guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[05:48] <rashind> cepheid, that sounds like it would very easily be a router problem.  Have you tried resetting the router to defaults, and/or hooking up via an ethernet port?
[05:48] <jrib> SayaSe: how long has this occurred?
[05:48] <Cann0n> Flannel, i do want to. slackware isnt like that...
[05:48] <RyuhoKudo> can anyone tell me how to get this link working with wget? http://veoh-124.vo.llnwd.net/Vpreviews/p/7cb07dd860b56aeb85ab36146f6bd1ebd4980c75.flv?e=1205041977&ri=5000&rs=100&h=24133a941e0614fd7860b5896d6c1297
[05:48] <cabrioleur> NETWizz, it's alsaconf
[05:49] <chrome> alsaconf doesn't exist in ubuntu
[05:49] <cornfused> astheo: you may have to reboot after switching back to metacity
[05:49] <rainarrow> Could anyone gimme some hints?
[05:49] <chrome> apparently
[05:49] <Cann0n> plus i enjoy using net tools without root
[05:49] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: try it in quotes
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> i did
[05:49] <cepheid> rashind it works fine through the ethernet port
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> it sayd 400 bad request
[05:49] <Flannel> Cann0n: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[05:49] <deeproot> Ryuhokudo install mplayer and mozplugin
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> it workes with firefox
[05:49] <astheo> cornfued: ok...
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> no i mean it works fine
[05:49] <j_humphrey> cabrioleur: how do i start a panel in the terminal?
[05:49] <rashind> cabrioleur, libdvdcss.so.2.0.4
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> except when i try to download it with wget
[05:49] <RyuhoKudo> it gives me ERROR 400: Bad Request.
[05:50] <Cann0n> Flannel, i know, its not enabled. i could, but i'd rather be able to use net tools with out "sudo" **
[05:50] <Starnestommy> RyuhoKudo: replace any "&" sign with "\&"
[05:50] <RyuhoKudo> thanks
[05:50] <darkcrab> open a root terminal cannon
[05:50] <cabrioleur> rashind, make a system upgrade and see if there is a new one. I think it should find a new version.
[05:50] <Cann0n> for example, my network devices dont show. im too lazy to figure it out myself.
[05:50] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: it seems to be coming in for me
[05:50] <SayaSe> jrib, ~40 minutes. I tried to get gnupg-agent to work with Thunderbird but apparently it "wasn't running" so I rebooted. Neither wallpaper nor desktop icons appeared and I had to reboot another time. Now I'm here.
[05:50] <RyuhoKudo> using wget?
[05:50] <cornfused> Cann0n: if you must, you can switch users with sudo so
[05:50] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: rickroll? :)
[05:50] <rashind> cepheid, try reverting your router to default settings and go from there.  You may have some restricted wireless surfing option enabled somewhere
[05:50] <NETWizz> -bash: alsaconf: command not found
[05:50] <Cann0n> darkcrab, you dont understand. i dont want run net functions thru root.
[05:50] <cornfused> Cann0n: sudo su*
[05:50] <RyuhoKudo> lol no prince, that's kinda old
[05:50] <nickrud> Cann0n: sudo -i will
[05:50] <darkcrab> oh
[05:50] <Flannel> cornfused: no, sudo -i
[05:50] <nickrud> *do
[05:50] <cabrioleur> j_humphrey, gnome-panel
[05:50] <jrib> SayaSe: the programs still run though?  It just does not prompt for a password?
[05:50] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: not around these parts
[05:51] <rainarrow> hey dude, anyone has idea about "fbcon not working on a system with ATi X300"?
[05:51] <cornfused> Cann0n: listen to Flannel
[05:51] <SayaSe> jrib, exactly.
[05:51] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: what kind of quotes did you use?
[05:51] <Omnimon-X> Um. I was having problems with my microphone; it wasn't working. It worked perfectly on Windows, so I googled and found a driver for my sound card. However, once I installed it, my sound stopped working completely, and now my computer doesn't even detect any audio devices nor my sound card. How do I rollback to previous audio settings?
[05:51] <cepheid> rashind, it works fine from another laptop running windows
[05:51] <jrib> SayaSe: and can you do administrative things?  Make a new user for example?
[05:51] <RyuhoKudo> Shift '
[05:51] <RyuhoKudo> right next to enter
[05:51] <darkcrab> anybody recommend a really cool window theme?
[05:51] <Frogzoo> !sound
[05:51] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: try "
[05:51] <cabrioleur> rashind, if you can't find anything in upgrades, run k9copy in terminal and copy output to pastebin when you are trying to load a dvd.
[05:51] <ubotwo> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> i said Shift '
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> that IS "
[05:52] <Cann0n> not understanding... i DONT want to run network security tools through sudo OR root. never had this problem before
[05:52] <cornfused> darkcrab: I've always like the Emerald Glass theme
[05:52] <rashind> cabrioleur, Okay, I'll try that, because there are no upgrades available.
[05:52] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: oh sorry
[05:52] <darkcrab> kk
[05:52] <rashind> cepheid, Alright, then I'm stumped.  Sorry.
[05:52] <Cann0n> ubuntu is too geared toward amateur users
[05:52] <deeproot> RyuhoKudo it works with " just did it
[05:52] <SayaSe> jrib, tested and did create a desktop user account. It's still there when I reopen user management.
[05:52] <nickrud> Cann0n: what tools, you're confusing us ;)
[05:52] <Cann0n> nickrud, any tools that use my network device... which is all.
[05:52] <cepheid> thanks though rashind
[05:52] <NETWizz> i will check those out
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> Resolving veoh-124.vo.llnwd.net... 208.111.145.99
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> Connecting to veoh-124.vo.llnwd.net|208.111.145.99|:80... connected.
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 400 Bad Request
[05:52] <RyuhoKudo> 21:52:06 ERROR 400: Bad Request.
[05:53] <rainarrow> hello, I can't get framebuffer console to work on my Thinkpad T43 with a ATi X300 card
[05:53] <iobelix> if i was to dual boot two distros, is it recommended to share home directory?
[05:53] <cabrioleur> Cann0n, I thing ubuntu is too complicated.
[05:53] <RyuhoKudo> lol
[05:53] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: ok i just got the whole thing, 21 MB
[05:53] <deeproot> RyuhoKudo i just put a " in front and at the end of the link" and it worked
[05:53] <Cann0n> for some reason ubuntu doesnt allow ndiswrapper to function properly
[05:53] <Flannel> Cann0n: you cant.  You'll just be able to hide the password prompt, they'll still need to be run with elevated privledges.  Unless I am misunderstanding what you're looking for
[05:53] <cornfused> Cann0n: Ubuntu is geared toward security such that there is no root
[05:53] <Cann0n> cabrioleur, slackware.com
[05:53] <astheo> cornfused: nothings changed. i still cant click anything on the appearance window
[05:53] <rashind> cabrioleur, kbuildsycoca running...
[05:53] <rashind> Reusing existing ksycoca
[05:53] <Starnestommy> cornfused: there is a root, but it's blocked from logging in
[05:53] <cabrioleur> Cann0n, that's what I'm running, which dropline on it.
[05:53] <Cann0n> cornfused, no its geared toward saftey, so noobs dont screw things up.
[05:54] <deeproot> wget "http://veoh-124.vo.llnwd.net/Vpreviews/p/7cb07dd860b56aeb85ab36146f6bd1ebd4980c75.flv?e=1205041977&ri=5000&rs=100&h=24133a941e0614fd7860b5896d6c1297"
[05:54] <Trubadurix> hi
[05:54] <jrib> SayaSe: hmmm, I just tried using 'sudo -K' here to force me to enter the gui password but it does not reset gksudo apparently
[05:54] <rashind> cabrioleur, then when I close it via the X on the window decorator, it spit out "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 7110, errno = 0"
[05:54] <Cann0n> Flannel, i guess its the gnome gui im not used to or something... time to get fluxbuntu
[05:54] <cornfused> Cann0n: if there were a root password, that would be the thing any ssh hack would attempt to hack.
[05:54] <RyuhoKudo> weird
[05:54] <RyuhoKudo> i still get ERROR 400: Bad Request.
[05:54] <cornfused> Cann0n: since there is none, it is more secure
[05:54] <Flannel> cornfused: That's not what he's confused about.
[05:54] <RyuhoKudo> maybe it's the server
[05:54] <iobelix> i intalled foresight on another partition and used the same username and password and i had major file permission problems and could not log in, i solved all of those but was just wondering if in the future i should either not share home directory or perhaps use a different username?
[05:54] <rainarrow> argh, seems everyone is overlooking me..
[05:55] <BeauGeste> but there is a root password, its just the user does not know it. its not more secure
[05:55] <Flannel> BeauGeste: no, there is no root password
[05:55] <rainarrow> I can't get framebuffer console to work on my Thinkpad T43 with a ATi X300 card, I have searched around, and tried the solutions on the launchpad, in which none worked for me
[05:55] <cornfused> BeauGeste: that password that you type is your password
[05:55] <nickrud> rainarrow: noone's overlooking you, no one (to my knowledge) has gotten framebuffer working properly with ati
[05:55] <Flannel> BeauGeste: the root account is locked, no possible password could successfully login
[05:55] <Cann0n> cornfused, doesnt matter about root, its geared toward "humans" not advanced users... but, ive been out of the technical loop for a few years.... i just recent switched to ubuntu
[05:55] <rashind> rainarrow, Sorry, not overlooking you, just not familiar with ATi issues.
[05:55] <SayaSe> jrib, guess the gksu lock might be stuck then ... any way to kill it?
[05:55] <BeauGeste> okay then son, try this "sudo bash ; passwd" set it to what you like
[05:55] <nickrud> rainarrow: framebuffer console that is
[05:55] <BeauGeste> no root password?
[05:55] <Flannel> BeauGeste: correct.  The root account is locked.
[05:56] <rainarrow> Hello nickrud and rashind
[05:56] <jrib> SayaSe: trying to look it up now, but I'd guess logging out and back in would have to do it
[05:56] <rainarrow> Actually I've got that working before this reinstallation
[05:56] <Flannel> BeauGeste: and please don't suggest people go around setting their root passwords.  It just leads to support hassles.
[05:56] <cabrioleur> rashind, it doesn't tell anything about the cause, but can you try the same with xine or totem-xine?
[05:56] <BeauGeste> okay I agree with that but it can be unlocked
[05:56] <Flannel> BeauGeste: it can indeed.
[05:56] <Cann0n> for example, i wish to run wifi-radar. i dont want to have to type a password each time
[05:56] <SayaSe> jrib, I'll give it a shot. Back in a minute or two.
[05:56] <rainarrow> I remembered doing that through radeonfb+fbcon..but after I reinstalled system yesterday, I could no longer get it to work
[05:56] <nickrud> Cann0n: set it suid then. I think that's what it is in other os's
[05:56] <Flannel> Cann0n: That's doable.  But it'll still run with elevated privledges
[05:57] <BeauGeste> and i agree that if you don't know what you are doing you should not play as root
[05:57] <rainarrow> well, if no one could give hints that's too bad, thank you all anyway
[05:57] <deeproot> RyuhoKudo its not the server
[05:57] <RyuhoKudo> ?
[05:57] <RyuhoKudo> then what could it be
[05:57] <nickrud> rainarrow: if you get it back up, how about writing it up for the wiki so I can use it :)
[05:57] <[T]-Rex> yo
[05:57] <deeproot> if i just type in the last link it downloads for me
[05:57] <deeproot> wget "http://veoh-124.vo.llnwd.net/Vpreviews/p/7cb07dd860b56aeb85ab36146f6bd1ebd4980c75.flv?e=1205041977&ri=5000&rs=100&h=24133a941e0614fd7860b5896d6c1297"
[05:57] <prince_jammys> RyuhoKudo: you have no problems with wget and other sites?
[05:58] <Cann0n> Flannel, i just dont want to type a password every time i run sometime. plus Wireshark i have to run in sudo otherwise my network devices wont show up. thats a problem with my ndiswrapper privileges
[05:58] <RyuhoKudo> i don't have any problem
[05:58] <rainarrow> nickrud, ok I'll try...
[05:58] <cornfused> what the crap is that FloodBot doing?
[05:58] <Flannel> Cann0n: thats correct.  You just need to suid like nickrud suggested.
[05:59] <jrib> cornfused: they help manage the channel, just ignore them
[05:59] <iobelix> i intalled foresight on another partition and used the same username and password and i had major file permission problems and could not log in, i solved all of those but was just wondering if in the future i should either not share home directory or perhaps use a different username when dualbooting?
[05:59] <cabrioleur> Cann0n, you can set up your sudoers in such manner that it will not ask you for password when you execute this particular command.
[05:59] <cornfused> jrib: I understand the channel management, but one just de-oped another? why?
[05:59] <Rawrakitten> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps rewriting my X server, or know the proper xorg.conf "Device" values to make a 7800 gtx work properly?
[05:59] <Cann0n> figured that much. also, whats up with the sound server? i plug in head phones and i hear it speakers too...
[06:00] <SayaSe> jrib, well that fixed it. I thought the first reboot would've done that so I never thought that far. Thanks for the guidance.
[06:00] <Cann0n> cabrioleur, will i have to do it to every command? or can i set it up golbally?
[06:00] <jrib> SayaSe: yeah, strange issue.  Glad you sorted it out though
[06:00] <Cann0n> globally*
[06:00] <cabrioleur> Cann0n, you can, but it's a huge security hole up there.
[06:00] <rashind> cabrioleur, "This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5.
[06:00] <rashind> (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
[06:00] <rashind> AFD changed from -2 to -1
[06:00] <rashind> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[06:00] <rashind> libdvdread: Can't stat /dev/dvd
[06:00] <rashind> No such file or directory
[06:00] <FloodBot1> rashind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <jrib> cornfused: you can ask LjL in #ubuntu-offtopic if he's around
[06:01] <nickrud> Cann0n: or set the sudo timeout to some ridiculous amount
[06:01] <kenny`> I am installing build-essential! I have to insert a cd but i don`t have it with me can I do something else?
[06:01] <Cann0n> cabrioleur, not worried about security... i mean, this is a laptop. if it was on my slack server, i'd be worried
[06:01] <zero88> Does Ubuntu come with GTK installed?
[06:01] <nickrud> !gutsysources | zero88
[06:01] <ubotwo> zero88: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[06:01] <SayaSe> kenny`, remove the CD from your software sources.
[06:01] <nickrud> zero88: if you have cdrom enabled, you probably want to make sure of the others as well
[06:01] <kenny`> SayaSe: thanks :)
[06:01] <SayaSe> Then update the repos and it should work... had the same issue.
[06:01] <Trubadurix> helo how do i check if i have my port 6112 open?
[06:01] <darkcrab> I downloaded Emerald Theme Manager and I have a theme, but it doesnt do anything. What am I doing wrong?
[06:02] <Cann0n> so whats up with ubuntus sound server no wanting to kill speaker while a headphone jack is plugged in?
[06:02] <Cann0n> thought that was a hardware switch
[06:02] <cornfused> darkcrab: do you see the theme or has it not changed?
[06:02] <darkcrab> it wont change
[06:02] <zero88> nickrud im not sure with what that has to do with my question.
[06:02] <rashind> cabrioleur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58957/  It seems to be using an old libdvdcss... though I don't know why
[06:02] <bruenig> Cann0n: say alsa, don't say ubuntu's sound server
[06:02] <darkcrab> i click on it, and it does nothing
[06:03] <darkcrab> and when I go to fetch repository that does nothing either.
[06:03] <Cann0n> bruenig, wasnt sure what sound server ubuntu came with
[06:03] <cornfused> darkcrab: that's because you're still using metacity
[06:03] <nickrud> zero88: disabling the cdrom (in the instructions above) will cause apt to look for it on the net
[06:03] <cabrioleur> rashind, what's the version of it?
[06:03] <RyuhoKudo> god damn it, why do you start working now?
[06:03] <jrib> zero88: yes, ubuntu comes with gtk installed
[06:03] <RyuhoKudo> thanks
[06:03] <darkcrab> How do I change?
[06:03] <rashind> cabrioleur, 1.2.5
[06:03] <cornfused> darkcrab: I believe if you run emerald --replace
[06:03] <Starnestommy> Trubadurix: netstat -l | grep ^tcp | grep 6112
[06:03] <nickrud> zero88: sorry, wrong nick (scroll fatigue)
[06:03] <jrib> nickrud: wrong nick (kennny was asking about the cd-rom repo)
[06:03] <zero88> nickrud yes i have cdrom disabled. I did cache search but came up wtih about a hundred searches for gtk
[06:04] <zero88> nickrud :) i thougth so
[06:04] <rashind> cabrioleur, actually, that's not libdvdcss, it's the libdvdread version #
[06:04] <cabrioleur> rashind, doh, I just looked at pastebin :-)
[06:04] <Cann0n> bruenig, since i dont use alsamixer to adjust sound volumes, do u know the answer to my question or were you trying to be rude?
[06:04] <zero88> jrib ok thanks. how can i tell what version
[06:04] <nickrud> !gutsysources | kenny`
[06:04] <ubotwo> kenny`: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[06:04] <NETWizz> I got it :-)
[06:04] <NETWizz> Sound is running :-) :-) :-)
[06:05] <zero88> !snack | ubotu
[06:05] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[06:05] <jrib> zero88: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[06:05] <NETWizz> sudo apt-get remove alsa-utils linux-sound-base alsa-base
[06:05] <NETWizz> and then the reverse
[06:05] <NETWizz> I did the first wiath a purge
[06:05] <dan__> hello
[06:05] <Trubadurix> Starnestommy: hmm nothing happend ?
[06:05] <bruenig> Cann0n: just wanted to make sure you realized that ubuntu doesn't write sound servers, a lot of people seem to attribute things to ubuntu incorrectly
[06:05] <kenny`> ubotwo: 10x
[06:05] <Starnestommy> Trubadurix: in that case, it probably isn't listening on 6112
[06:06] <zero88> jrib kool thanks
[06:06] <deeproot> i may get kicked for this but Cann0n you have a shitty attitude
[06:06] <dan__> anyone know anything about "MythTv" frontend ?
[06:06] <Trubadurix> Starnestommy: and thats mean its closed?
[06:06] <zero88> jrib and im asumming i have all the gnome libraries sence i am running in  gnome
[06:06] <Cann0n> deeproot, thankyou.
[06:06] <iobelix> i installed another distro on another partition and used the same username and password and i had major file permission problems and could not log in, i solved all of those but was just wondering if in the future i should either not share home directory or perhaps use a different username when dualbooting?
[06:06] <Starnestommy> Trubadurix: yes
[06:06] <Trubadurix> Starnestommy: aha so do you know how to open it? :-)
[06:06] <kust3mz> Can someone help me with running ununtu linux i have a prolb with installing it
[06:07] <jrib> zero88: probably depends on what you mean by "all the gnome libraries".  Why do you want to know?
[06:07] <Starnestommy> Trubadurix: run a program that binds to port 6112
[06:07] <cornfused> kust3mz: more info on the problem plz
[06:07] <SayaSe> kst3mz, what kind of problem?
[06:07] <rashind> iobelix, sharing home directories can be dangerous, but you might be able to work around it by changing your login settings to allow you to log in even if you don't own your home directory.
[06:07] <morghanphoenix>  Anyone know what the problem is here, trying to play a mkv file and this is all that mplayer xone or vlc will give me. I've installed both libraries listed on the matroska page so I don't know what's wrong with my video, any ideas? http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s294/morghanphoenix/Errors/snapshot1.png
[06:07] <nickrud> iobelix: the uid (user id) is what is written to the disk, and the os matches that to the corresponding name in /etc/passwd. You need to make sure both os's are using the same uid number for the user name
[06:08] <chrome> iobelix: ^^ what he said
[06:08] <SayaSe> morghanphoenix, are you using that abomination that is Compiz?
[06:08] <Trubadurix> Starnestommy: well axely my problem is i run a program "redvex" and it makes the error "cannot bind on port 6112"
[06:08] <morghanphoenix> Aye, that it?
[06:08] <Cann0n> deeproot, do you know how why alsa doesnt switch off speakers when audio jack is plugged?
[06:08] <cornfused> SayaSe: What did compiz do to you?
[06:08] <SayaSe> morghanphoenix, disabling it solved that issue for me. Course I don't know if you want the fancy effects.
[06:09] <zero88> jrib http://mono-project.com/InstallerInstructions
[06:09] <deeproot> Cann0n sorry no but i did get some great help with my laptop's sound problems from alsa those dudes are great in there
[06:09] <SayaSe> cornfused, nothing, I just don't think it's worth the hassle that it can cause.
[06:09] <deeproot> Cann0n join /alsa and ask i bet they can help
[06:09] <cornfused> SayaSe: I guess that makes sense, it worked out of the box for me
[06:09] <jrib> zero88: but mono is packaged in the repositories as well.  And I believe it's installed by default too
[06:09] <zero88> jrib also if you know where would i get these?     libgailutil.so.17 libglitz.so.1 libnspr4.so libplc4.so libplds4.so
[06:09] <iobelix> nickrud, rashind, chrome, thank you. what if i were to use a different username but mount the same partition as /home for both distros? i can always change access permissions to share docs etc
[06:10] <Cann0n> deeproot, join #2,000  these guys are funny
[06:10] <zero88> jrib WHAT? default? hm, i knew it was in the respitories but i wasnt sure everyhting i would need to dl. so i jsut dl the installer
[06:10] <Techt0nix> when i try to load Unbuntu i get the splash loading bar it hangs at 3 bars can anyone help?
[06:10] <SayaSe> cornfused, it works just fine here too, but it takes system resources for things I don't need.
[06:10] <jrib> !guidelines > Cann0n (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:10] <whereamitoday> i accidently removed the connection icon from the panel (the one that shows that you are connected "wired") whats the name of that panel?
[06:10] <nickrud> iobelix: it's easier to change the uid's to match. Edit the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file in one os to match the other for the name
[06:10] <cornfused> Techt0nix: how long does it hang? a little hang is normal
[06:10] <jrib> Cann0n: read those and do not do that again
[06:11] <Techt0nix> i left it for longer then 30mins
[06:11] <cabrioleur> rashind, one more thing to try
[06:11] <deeproot> haha you win im a newb
[06:11] <Techt0nix> it will not load up at all
[06:11] <Cann0n> :) all fun and games
[06:11] <cornfused> Techt0nix: can you boot in recovery mode?
[06:11] <Cann0n> jrib, i wish someone was here to kick the person that did that to me last week...
[06:11] <zero88> Techt0nix, have you been able to boot before?
[06:11] <iobelix> nickrud, okay, i will remember that. so the uid and guid should be the same as the distro that was installed first?
[06:11] <amenado> whereamitoday-> nm applet
[06:11] <Techt0nix> never been about to boot before
[06:11] <cabrioleur> rashind, insert a css dvd and make sure that /dev/dvd exists
[06:11] <Techt0nix> able*
[06:12] <ghindo> Techtronix:  hit Escape at GRUB
[06:12] <whereamitoday> amenado, huh?
[06:12] <Techt0nix> im sorry im nub at linux what is GRUB
[06:12] <NETWizz> I love the Ubuntu Documentation
[06:12] <NETWizz> THe people who write it are awesome
[06:12] <amenado> whereamitoday-> you had a question i answered
[06:12] <Cann0n> Techt0nix, a boot loader
[06:12] <cornfused> !grub | Techt0nix
[06:12] <ubotwo> Techt0nix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:12] <whereamitoday> amenado, where can i find that?
[06:13] <jrib> Cann0n: In the future, you can always call !ops if no one is around when you need an opp in this channel.  In any case that doesn't mean you should do it to others
, just hit Esc when it tells you to hit Esc to enter the menu during boot.
[06:13] <Cann0n> Techt0nix, if you had windows on another partition, it would allow you to select which os to boot
[06:13] <rashind> cabrioleur, Hm.  No, it doesn't.  I have dvd1 and dvd2... but no dvd
[06:13] <Optimus55> hey can anyone help me with a problem here? gutsy doesn't do my cpu scaling anymore on my AMDx2
[06:13] <jrib> zero88: you want to stick to installing things from the repositories
[06:13] <Techt0nix> when i tryed it i took windows off because i wanted to only run Ubuntu
[06:14] <NETWizz> Just build a dedicated ubuntu compute
[06:14] <cornfused> Techt0nix: GRUB will allow you to boot ubuntu in recovery mode
[06:14] <CVD-PR> hey there, where are the databases i created in mysql?
[06:14] <NETWizz> A better question is how to back up your databases
[06:14] <cornfused> Techt0nix: it will then give you terminal output while booting which will show you where it stops
[06:14] <Techt0nix> ok so i just put in the CD and when it starts to boot i push esc?
[06:14] <Cann0n> jrid, if i fall for something stupid, i'm not going to run and tell an op. :P reminds me of the old windows Alt + F4 trick.
[06:14] <CVD-PR> ?
[06:14] <NETWizz> I can help you backup your databases if you wish
[06:15] <cornfused> Techt0nix: your booting from a live CD?
[06:15] <astheo> hi, anyone likes to help me with my appearance window? i cant anything on it after i installed and uninstalled emerald...
[06:15] <NETWizz> I never bother to find out where they are stored
[06:15] <NETWizz> I do backup my MySQL databses daily
[06:15] <astheo> hi, anyone likes to help me with my appearance window? i cant click anything on it after i installed and uninstalled emerald...
[06:15] <Starnestommy> CVD-PR: I think /var/lib/mysql/
[06:15] <Techt0nix> i had downloaded the ISO file off ubuntu site
[06:15] <Techt0nix> and burnt it to a cd useing MagicISO
[06:15] <cornfused> Techt0nix: right, but I thought you had already installed
[06:15] <NETWizz> I cannot remember the emerald thing
[06:16] <NETWizz> You have to substitute the proper windows manager
[06:16] <Techt0nix> no can not even get it to start
[06:16] <morghanphoenix> Well SayaSe It just changed colours, now the wierd crosshatched mess is green.
[06:16] <NETWizz> Do you have GLX support?
[06:16] <SayaSe> morghanphoenix, you'll have to restart X.
[06:16] <cornfused> Techt0nix: there is a list that comes up when you boot from a Live CD
[06:16] <morghanphoenix> ah, brb
[06:16] <astheo> NETWizz: are you refering to me?
[06:16] <cornfused> Techt0nix: It doesn't use grub
[06:16] <singh> Hi... test message... I need some help
[06:16] <Techt0nix> my Friend has the same computer as me nothing diff. but he dont have the montior like me woudl that be the problem?
[06:16] <NETWizz> whoever was asking :-)
[06:16] <crexor> http://www.crexor.net/~crexor/ubuntu/
[06:17] <zero88> jrib got it
[06:17] <SayaSe> singh, just ask.
[06:17] <Cann0n> Techt0nix, did you write is as an image?
[06:17] <Techt0nix> yes
[06:17] <cornfused> Cann0n: he got the ubuntu loading bar
[06:17] <singh> test again
[06:17] <CVD-PR> Starnestommy, yep you are right , thanks
[06:17] <SayaSe> singh, just ask.
[06:17] <cornfused> !who | Techt0nix
[06:17] <ubotwo> Techt0nix: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:18] <rashind> singh, we see your message, just ask
[06:18] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: yes
[06:18] <Cann0n> cornfused, didnt see that line.
[06:18] <singh> Is there a known problem when putting ubuntu to sleep??
[06:18] <astheo> NETWizz : lol, i dont know bout glx thing. all i know is i cant run my emerald coz of my graphics card. so i uninstalled hoping i would get my appearnce window working again. but it still fails...
[06:18] <singh> My screen blanks after waking up...
[06:18] <Cann0n> hmm. when u boot it from a live cd, its super slow... i thought mine didnt work.
[06:18] <chrome> ah Twinview 24" flat panels running at 1920x1200 is pure sex, let me tell you.
[06:19] <NETWizz> WHat graphics card do you have, astheo?
[06:19] <Cann0n> Techt0nix, what are the specs on that system?
[06:19] <rashind> singh, there are ENDLESS known problems putting Ubuntu to sleep.  I've got 3 laptops, and I haven't gotten one to sleep and come back without screwing something up.
[06:19] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: well my friend has the same computer as me and his works fine
[06:19] <NETWizz> you can run glxinfo
[06:19] <zero88> jrib does mono,(if you know) give you an environment like visual basic. or is it all command line?
[06:19] <Cann0n> did you check the md5 of the iso file after u downloaded it?
[06:19] <NETWizz> The first two lines are hte most important
[06:19] <NETWizz> display: :0  screen: 0
[06:19] <NETWizz> direct rendering: Yes
[06:19] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: 512MB RAM 40GB HD 2.93 processor
[06:19] <astheo> ATI, never asking bout it, i tried to get work in every distro i tried but no luck. gettin my appearance window work this time is all that matters...:)
[06:20] <astheo> mind
[06:20] <Cann0n> compaq?
[06:20] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: HP
[06:20] <NETWizz> ouch
[06:20] <nonix4> rashind: mainly audio & usb/firewire type of problems?
[06:20] <NETWizz> I like Nvidia
[06:20] <NETWizz> THey are the bomb on Linux
[06:20] <astheo> yeah il buy one soon
[06:20] <NETWizz> Mine has a crappy 7600 GT and it renders awesome
[06:20] <Techt0nix> cann0n: also a nVidia 256MB video card
[06:20] <Cann0n> hmm i'd go back to the .iso file and check to see if the md5sum matches it
[06:21] <singh> thanks rashind. the thing is, I have audio playing when it sleeps, and after wakeup it continues playing... but the screen is almost blank. I say almost because I can see a faint image of my logon-dialog and it is responsive too!!!
[06:21] <Cann0n> nvidia rock
[06:21] <rashind> nonix4, my best shot had no audio on waking, but another machine won't even bring up gnome or a working command line on waking.
[06:21] <NETWizz> If I were to buy a card now, I would probably get a 7800 GT or an 8600 GT with 512 MB
[06:21] <kraft__> hello
[06:21] <wexler> NETWizz: Do you install the nVidia driver using their recommended steps?
[06:21] <NETWizz> yes
[06:21] <kraft__> i've just found out raid 1 seems to be broken
[06:21] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: how would i know if md5 matches it i have never tryed linux before today
[06:21] <kraft__> is that a well known issue?
[06:21] <astheo> so no fix for my problem?:(
[06:21] <NETWizz> apt-get install nvida-glx-new I think
[06:21] <NETWizz> or it is just nvidia-glx
[06:22] <nonix4> kraft__: broken in which sense?
[06:22] <wexler> ah ok, I've always gone to run level 2 and ran the .sh file
[06:22] <Techt0nix> Cann0n: u can open a Query if u like would be easyier to talk
[06:22] <wexler> but its a pain when the kernel is updated - have to recompile the nvidia kernel
[06:22] <NETWizz> I used to do the .run files
[06:22] <kraft__> nonix4: sorry, that was prolly a little to general, raid 1 won't boot degraded
[06:22] <NETWizz> It was causing me a problem
[06:22] <zero88> singh!
[06:23] <NETWizz> IT would run until I rebooted
[06:23] <wexler> yeah, I've had that issue before
[06:23] <nonix4> kraft__: depends on the way you installed grub
[06:23] <NETWizz> grub is fine I think
[06:23] <rashind> singh, sounds like your problem is relatively minor: just a brightness issue.  If security is no big issue for you (or even as a quick test, if it is), try going to administration -> login window, and make it log you in automatically.  Then, even if the brightness is wrong, you may have luck adjusting it while logged in.
[06:23] <nonix4> kraft__: I think by default grub gets installed wrong
[06:23] <NETWizz> I have kernels all the way back to DApper
[06:23] <NETWizz> haha
[06:23] <NETWizz> My Grub list is huge
[06:23] <abortd> ubotu fixed?
[06:23] <kraft__> nonix4: orly? any directions on how to fix?
[06:23] <astheo> how to view firefox donwload manager?
[06:24] <NETWizz> You just click on downloads
[06:24] <NETWizz> Same as Windows :-)
[06:24] <Cann0n> wow.. just tried out open arena... kudos on that game
[06:24] <wexler> or ctrl+y
[06:24] <norty> i have postgresql installed and i messed it up and i want to uninstall it so i can start clean, how do i uninstall it?
[06:24] <gvsa123> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000333333333
[06:24] <Pulpie> where can i find the pingin plugin that allows you to connect to the xfire protocal
[06:24] <Darkmystere> Err, How do i figure out what Version of the ATI Driver i have installed..? also whats the newest ATI Cataylist Version
[06:24] <whereamitoday> i recently installed gmount and when i click on an .iso it doesnt have an option to "open with gmount" and when i go to open with another app its not in that list either, is there another way?
[06:24] <NETWizz> I did a hard drive upgrade in Ubuntu before
[06:24] <rashind> cabrioleur, no ideas?
[06:24] <NETWizz> My upgrade process
[06:24] <NETWizz> Dapper to Edgy
[06:24] <NETWizz> Edgy to Fiesty
[06:25] <NETWizz> Fiesty to Gusty
[06:25] <NETWizz> 100 GB IDE to 200 GB SATA
[06:25] <NETWizz> VIA K8T890-A ECS to ABIT Nforce 4 SLI KN8-SLI
[06:25] <astheo> hey, anyone can recommend a download manager for ubuntu?
[06:25] <NETWizz> All of that without a re-install
[06:25] <NETWizz> Azureus
[06:26] <NETWizz> Azureus manages my downloads :-)
[06:26] <norty> i have postgresql installed and i messed it up and i want to uninstall it so i can start clean, how do i uninstall it?
[06:26] <NETWizz> I use WGET though for http downloads
[06:26] <morghanphoenix> Thanks SayaSe, that did it :)
[06:26] <nonix4> kraft__: darn, don't seem to have connectivity to my raid1 setup atm... let me fix that :/
[06:27] <SayaSe> morghanphoenix, you're welcome. If you want both MPlayer goodness and Compiz I can't help ya.
[06:27] <morghanphoenix> yeah, same thing with wine apps, seems like compiz hates windows programs :P
[06:28] <morghanphoenix> Though it has no porblem running a virtualized xp system full screen on one side of the cube.
[06:28] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> morghanphoenix, it should
[06:28] <rashind> alright, well, thanks cabrioleur for your help, I'm going to go see if I can tinker with stuff until it works.
[06:28] <kraft__> nonix4: are you referring to the initramfs and removing the --no-degraded fix?
[06:29] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[06:29] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> morghanphoenix, compiz and vbox work pretty well together
[06:29] <norty> How do I uninstall a program using Ubuntu 7.10? (I want to uninstall postgresql-8.3) ??
[06:29] <morghanphoenix> I run virtualbox with compiz, spin the cube for XP, Solaris and BSD :)
[06:30] <Alan_M> norty sudo aptitude remove postgresql i believe.
[06:30] <Alan_M> in terminal
[06:30] <kraft__> nonix4: well i guess its the udev scripts actually...
[06:32] <norty> Alan_M, i did that but when i do dpkg -l | grep postgres there is still a few packages there.. ?
[06:32] <nonix4> kraft__: been a while since I've tested the degraded mode :/
[06:32] <CVD-PR> a command to check the services running?
[06:33] <Techt0nix> Ubuntu hangs after 3bars on liveCD can anyone help
[06:33] <wexler> top or ps
[06:33] <Alan_M> did you try the --purge flag norty?
[06:33] <CVD-PR> ?
[06:33] <Flannel> norty: What version of postgres do you have?
[06:33] <nonix4> kraft__: but I remember it needed some tweaking to get it working the right way
[06:33] <wexler> CVD-PR: top or ps aux in terminal
[06:33] <norty> Flannel, 8.3
[06:33] <Alan_M> im crashing fast flannel lol
[06:34] <norty> I tried removing it a few different ways and now when i try removing it, it says its not there, so i guess ill try logging out and back in and see if that clears things up, brb!
[06:34] <Flannel> norty: In hardy?
[06:34] <norty> Flannel, brb
[06:34] <mneten> hello folks; i tinkered a little too much with what i dont understand (Everything, specifically libdca), and now my videos appear to be a mass of green and purple! running gutsy... little help? (noob here, sorry)
[06:34] <intardnet> anybody know how to get a C++ plugin for eclipse?
[06:34] <SayaSe> mneten, are you using Compiz?
[06:34] <darkcrab> wow, this emerald theme is awesome.
[06:34] <morghanphoenix> !release
[06:35] <ubotwo> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:35] <mneten> yes, but it was working splendidly before i tinkered (with compiz running)
[06:35] <SayaSe> mneten, the only issue I know of that causes blue/green video is having Compiz enabled. But since it worked earlier I guess it might not be that.
[06:35] <norty> Flannel, back, it still says things are installed
[06:35] <Flannel> norty: if you look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/postgresql-8.3 you see a few more postgres packages, and that has even one more (-client-common) you'll want to purge all four: sudo apt-get purge postgresql-8.3 postgresql-client-8.3 postgresql-common postgresql-client-common
[06:36] <wexler> intardnet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420886
[06:36] <norty> Flannel, ok let me try..
[06:36] <Alan_M> Thanks flannel for saving the day yet again for me.
[06:36] <Flannel> norty: And, hardy support is in #ubuntu+1 until it's official.  For the record, so take future issues there (that may be the reason why postgres isn't working anyway)
[06:36] <mneten> SayaSe, i played with the tar.bz2 on http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdca.html, and since then its been broken, if thats any help.
[06:36] <Flannel> Alan_M: No problem
[06:36] <norty> Flannel, im on gusty
[06:37] <Alan_M> I hate when i do that, feel almost like im using ya man heh :P
[06:37] <mneten> would there be a way to remove and reinstall libdca (or just remove and go back to whatever i was using before?)
[06:37] <SayaSe> mneten, does it look like http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s294/morghanphoenix/Errors/snapshot1.png? If not I can't help ya.
[06:37] <intardnet> wexler: is the CDT updated?  the ubuntuforums link says that the eclipse-cdt package is terribly out of date
[06:37] <darkcrab> is it recommended to upgrade everytime their is a new release?
[06:37] <Flannel> norty: then how do you have 8.3?
[06:37] <Alan_M> darkcrab, yeah
[06:37] <mneten> SayaSe, fairly close, but not exactly the same
[06:37] <Alan_M> its recommended..but not required
[06:37] <zero88> Can anyone tell me what package this shared library would be in  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[06:37] <darkcrab> *nods*
[06:37] <norty> Flannel, I downloaded it from the postgresql website, idk..
[06:37] <Flannel> norty: Oh, backports.  Well, backports might be the reason its crashing.  Anyway.
[06:37] <Flannel> norty: er, what?
[06:38] <norty> Flannel, I tried that command and it got ride of the client and common packages but the postgresql-8.1 and postgresql-8.3 are still there
[06:38] <wexler> intardnet: not entirely sure, I'd take their word for it, though.  Try the link in the third post.
[06:38] <intardnet> wexler: roger
[06:38] <morghanphoenix> hey, there's my screenshot again :P
[06:38] <SayaSe> mneten, sorry, maybe http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aubuntuforums.org+uninstall+package+installed+from+source&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta= has some useful threads.
[06:39] <morghanphoenix> I thought there was a new release, guess gutsy is the newest.
[06:39] <Alan_M> darkcrab: Ubotu runs on a LTS release, those are supported for like 3 years on a desktop and  5 on a server. 6.06...its seeming like its doing well, so we dont really feellike upgrading hehe.
[06:39] <dodi> need your comments pls, i downloaded xubuntu 7.10 using utorrent, i verified the image using md5summer with the md5 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.10/release/MD5SUMS and says its okay, but when i try running the cd from virtualbox then "check cd for defects" it says that one of the files are corrupted.
[06:39] <Flannel> norty: Thats because in gutsy there's no purge command.  You actually should've gotten an error.  instead of apt-get purge [packages], do apt-get --purge remove [packages]
[06:39] <mneten> SayaSe, thanks, i'll look through it :)
[06:39] <norty> Flannel, I tried sudo apt-get purge postgresql-8.1 postgresql-8.3 but it says "Package postgresql-8.1 is not installed, so not remove" and "Package postgresql-8.3 is not installed, so not removed" but when i do dpkg -l | grep postgres they show up
[06:39] <norty> Flannel, I got no error, ill try --purge remove this time though
[06:39] <Flannel> norty: do you have 8.1 or 8.3?
[06:39] <norty> both.. :x
[06:40] <Flannel> norty: Do you have a GUI on this box?
[06:40] <intardnet> wexler: yeah, it looks like the cdt in the repos is v 3.1, whereas the link has 4.0.3 as the latest
[06:40] <intardnet> wexler: thanks
[06:40] <norty> a GUI for what?
[06:40] <Flannel> norty: For anything.  Or is this a CLI only box?
[06:40] <Alan_M> Graphical user interface...do you see colors or is it text only?
[06:40] <norty> I'm running ubuntu 7.10 the desktop version
[06:40] <norty> colors
[06:41] <norty> ive got gnome running
[06:41]  * Alan_M looks at flannel and winks. There ya go bud :)
[06:41] <Flannel> norty: Alright.  Open up synaptic package manager.  search for postgres, mark each package that shows up as installed (or residual config) for "complete removal"
[06:42] <norty> Flannel, the only packages that show up are OpenOffice.org database and pgAdmin III
[06:42] <Flannel> norty: that's impossible
[06:42] <norty> lol im not lying
[06:42] <norty> apparently they are gone but dpkg says they are still there
[06:42] <norty> idk
[06:42] <Flannel> norty: alright, pastebin the outputof this command: dpkg -l (thats a loewrcase L)
[06:43] <goose> for whatever reason, my Ubuntu didn't install gnome-theme-manager
[06:43] <goose> how can I install it?
[06:43] <Cpudan80> sudo apt-get install gnome-theme-manager ?
[06:43] <zero88> **** why does my terminal just hang at Setting up apt-file (2.0.8.2ubuntu2) ....
[06:43] <goose> Cpudan80: tried it
[06:43] <Cpudan80> maybe its gdm
[06:43] <Cpudan80> try that
[06:44] <Cpudan80> sudo .... gdm
[06:44] <Flannel> zero88: Are you sure it hangs?  Its got a lot to do to set it up.  Lots of crunching.
[06:44] <Alan_M> is apt-get or aptitude better guys?
[06:44] <goose> Cpudan80: gdm is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:44] <norty> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58959/
[06:44] <zero88> Flannel well no i havent checked the system monitor, but it was a small package,really small and i ahve never waited this long for it t set up before. thats why i assumed
[06:44] <Cpudan80> :-/
[06:45] <norty> just dpkg -l was way too long
[06:45] <goose> Alan_M: depends on what you need it for
[06:45] <bradley> join /#winehq
[06:45] <Alan_M> goose, thought so..because i thought one broke dependencies.
[06:45] <zero88> flannel ya no cpu usage either
[06:45] <Cpudan80> goose: The thing that runs when you hit themes is gnome-appearance-properties
[06:45] <jim_p> Alan_M: it depends. i have used aptitute only once that apt failrd for some reason
[06:45] <Cpudan80> Not sure if that helps you or not
[06:46] <Alan_M> apt-get always screws up for me, i always use aptitude :/
[06:46] <goose> Cpudan80: Found it. System > Preferences > Appearances
[06:46] <wexler> norty: What about dpkg -l | grep Post*
[06:46] <Alan_M> even when telling others how to do stuff ill say aptitude lol
[06:46] <goose> Alan_M: what are you trying to install?
[06:46] <Alan_M> not a thing, just trying to get an opinion.
[06:46] <dodi> need your comments pls, i downloaded xubuntu 7.10 using utorrent, i verified the image using md5summer with the md5 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.10/release/MD5SUMS and says its okay, but when i try running the cd from virtualbox then "check cd for defects" it says that one of the files are corrupted.
[06:46] <Flannel> norty: Those should still show up in synaptic, not under installed, but under... uh, something else.  You know what, go to the main window, with all packages listed, and start typing "postgres" and you'll get down to the postgres section, and you can mark those two for complete removal
[06:46] <Cpudan80> goose: oh ok great
[06:46] <Flannel> zero88: then it may indeed be hung
[06:46] <[T]-Rex> !search avs
[06:46] <zero88> flannel,lol
[06:46] <ubotwo> Found:
[06:47] <eatatjoes2> when i go to the shutdown icon (top right of screen) it has the option for "lock, logout, suspend, hibernate, switch user" but not one for shutdown or restart...anyone know why?
[06:47] <zero88> flannel apt-file works tho, maybe i should uninstall and install again
[06:47] <norty> Flannel, what is the main window?
[06:47] <zero88> flannel i do get this tho E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:48] <Flannel> norty: The main window that lists all the packages.  On the right sidebar thing, select "all"
[06:48] <renegade420> hehe
[06:49] <nonix4> kraft__: oh yeah, my fix was rather brute...
[06:49] <abortd> whats a good program for buring iso's?
[06:49] <norty> Flannel, I am currently in the Add/Remove Applications window with "All" highlighted and "Show: Installed applications" I am searching for postgres and only the OpenOffice.org Database and pgAdmin III" show up as the packages installed
[06:49] <Flannel> norty: no no, not add/remove.  Synaptic Package Manager.  System > Admin > Synaptic Package Manager
[06:50] <norty> :-x
[06:50]  * dodi says "I guess im stucked...."
[06:50] <dkT> Hello, I have a problem, I can't install ubuntu on a IBM R61. Someone experienced the same problem?
[06:50] <Flannel> Cpudan80: Try gnome-control-center
[06:51] <Cpudan80> Flannel: That was for goose
[06:51] <singh> Ubuntu problem: I have audio playing when I put it to sleep, and after wakeup it continues playing... but the screen is almost blank. I say almost because I can see a faint image of my logon-dialog and it is responsive too, that is it lets me login, and I can see that faint image vanishing
[06:51] <wexler> dodi: try downloading from a different source?  Try burning the disc at 12-16x instead of full speed
[06:52] <norty> Flannel, ok I see a ton of postgres stuff, which ones do I want to mark for complete removeal
[06:52] <chrome> singh: tried the brightness control? is it a laptop?
[06:52] <dodi> wexler: its still in iso, i check md5's and they are all have the same md5's.
[06:53] <singh> yes.. its a laptop... and I have tried the brightnes controls too.
[06:53] <chrome> !tab | singh
[06:53] <ubotwo> singh: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:53] <dkT> wexler: I will try ;)
[06:53] <wexler> dodi: have you tried downloading from a non-torrent source?
[06:54] <chrome> singh: sounds like the backlight isn't coming on. Has searching launchpad come up with anything?
[06:54] <Flannel> norty: Any ones that aren't uninstalled (they should have a different color box, for residual config) look specifically at postgresql-8.1 and -8.3 to start
[06:55] <dodi> wexler: i tried, my connection is more prone to corruption so i always download from torernt so i can repair corrupted downloads. and btw, official md5 reported correctly. wierd...
[06:56] <singh> googling for 'launchpad backlight' didn't return anything interesting..
[06:56] <chrome> singh: what kind of laptop is it? And which version of ubuntu?
[06:56] <singh> trying further..
[06:57] <chrome> singh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:57] <norty> Flannel, I think that did it, now when I do dpkg -l | grep postgres i get no results, is everything gone now?
[06:58] <Flannel> norty: yes
[06:58] <norty> Flannel, fantastic, thanks!
[06:59] <singh> chrome: I searched for 'backlight sleep' there, and just 5 results, none interesting..
[06:59] <fr500> hi
[06:59] <abortd> whats a good program for buring iso's?
[06:59] <mneten> wow
[06:59] <abortd> whats a good program for buring iso's??
[06:59] <abortd> hehe
[07:00] <abortd> burning
[07:00] <wexler>  /waves goodbye to brown.freenode.net users
[07:00] <abortd> good time to ask question :P
[07:00] <Flannel> !iso | abortd
[07:00] <ubotwo> abortd: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:00] <Alan_M> !netsplit
[07:00] <Flannel> er, bla
[07:00] <abortd> oooo ubotu is fixed
[07:00] <ubotwo> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:00] <Flannel> !burning | abortd
[07:00] <ubotwo> abortd: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:00] <fr500> i was playing with video  playback on ubuntu, i was using dri drivers (but i have an nvidia card). Some high bitrate mp4 videos are very choppy while on xp they play very well, would i get better video playback installing the nvidia drivers?
[07:00] <abortd> flannel what do you prefer?
[07:00] <bluefoxx> lots of netsplits lately...
[07:00] <chrome> singh: I find a lot more when searching for just 'backlight'. Maybe one of them is relevant, maybe not... but its worth a look. Its not a problem I've heard of. What kind of laptop is it, and what version of Ubuntu?
[07:01] <Alan_M> is seveas playing around?
[07:01] <Flannel> abortd: I use terminal stuff, but thats just me.
[07:01] <abortd> well this is a iso of a operating system so it has to be burned to cd can you burn a iso to cd through terminal?
[07:02] <abortd> because if i dont need a program i mean hell yeah im goin that way
[07:02] <Flannel> abortd: Its easiest to just right click it and hit burn image
[07:02] <abortd> im not goin for easy
[07:02] <abortd> i want to learn :/
[07:02] <singh> chrome: Ubuntu 7.10, freshly installed on Thinkpad Centrino Duo.
[07:03] <bluefoxx> oookay...the tv chanel froze or w/e at the same time as the netsplit...
[07:03] <thewho> i got a problem in firefox anyone can help?
[07:03] <singh> thewho: g ahead
[07:03] <Starnestommy> thewho: depends on what the problem is
[07:03] <Flannel> abortd: When burning ISOs, thats really the best way.  You'll learn that simple is never a bad thing.
[07:03] <singh> *go
[07:03] <thewho> the firefox font is too small
[07:03] <fr500> abortd: use brasero
[07:03] <abortd> :P
[07:03] <thewho> and even the whole sites are small
[07:03] <chrome> singh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/127173 looks relevant, though you're not doing suspend to disk. It might be related. I'd file a separate bug with them, and see how you go.
[07:03] <thewho> sometimes i cant see anything
[07:03] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 127173 in xorg "strange Xorg screen blanking control after resume from suspend to disk" [Medium,Confirmed]
[07:03] <abortd> brasero?
[07:03] <bluefoxx> thewho: hit ctrl and = a few times
[07:04] <chrome> singh: Stuff should 'just work' so anything you hit like that is a bug, and filing a bug will get someone looking at it (eventually)
[07:04] <thewho> but that is only the font that i'm making large
[07:04] <thewho> even pictures and videos look small
[07:04] <abortd> thanks for the help Flannel yer a champ
[07:05] <singh> thanks chrome... I guess I have reached that stage in researching the problem that it's prudent to file a bug now... thanks for all your help... best regards,
[07:11] <intardnet> wtf was that?
[07:12] <ubuntu_> hi all
[07:13] <phuzion> what is going on, did every ubuntu problem in the world suddenly get resolved temporarily or something?  I've never seen a full page of join/part/quit messages besides a netsplit
[07:13] <intardnet> phuzion: i think the FloodBots were having a war
[07:14] <Chipsa964> haha
[07:14] <Chipsa964> well
[07:14] <Chipsa964> normally the screen is flooded with questions/answers
[07:14] <phuzion> Anyone know of a good command-line burning utility?
[07:14] <zamarronstein> hi my friends
[07:14] <phuzion> Yeah, I'm aware of that Chipsa964
[07:14] <intardnet> phuzion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58961/
[07:14] <nomadz_> any one know how to get a scroll mouse (belkin) to work with 7.10 on windows virtual machine 2007??
[07:15] <ngabriel> anyone know a command line program that will give a dynamic directory listing that will refresh itself? (similar to 'top')
[07:16] <phuzion> intardnet, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58962/
[07:17] <farruinn> ngabriel: I imagine something like midnight commander would
[07:17] <intardnet> phuzion: what were the floodbots doing then?
[07:18] <nonix4> nomadz_: you sure you can't use any umm... more sane alternative than that vm?
[07:18] <phuzion> one was setting it so that only 5 people could join every 2 seconds (or the other way around, I can't remember the syntax off that command) and the other was unsetting that.
[07:18] <ngabriel> furruinn:  good idea.  i forgot about mc
[07:18] <abortd> !ubotu compiz-fusion
[07:18] <ubotwo> abortd: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:18] <nomadz_> nonix4 nope, stuck with what i got
[07:19] <abortd> wo?
[07:19] <Ayabara> is there a good tool for searching for file duplicates on my disk?
[07:19] <l815> firefox  3 keeps telling me to install java but it's already installed (on hardy)
[07:19] <intardnet> phuzion: why would the bots do that?  it doesnt seem logical that one would set and one would unset that...
[07:20] <abortd> !compiz | abortd
[07:20] <abortd> meh
[07:20] <phuzion> intardnet, it doesn't seem logical because it isn't logical.  They're supposed to work with other, not against each other.  One's got a bug, it seems like, or it has a different listing of channel modes it has to keep
[07:20] <nonix4> nomadz_: dunno much about that one besides my admin friends telling to give 3x time estimates for anything related to that vm compared to other vms...
[07:21] <SeanInSeattle> Good evening everyone.  Does anyone know how to pull music that has been purchased legally through iTunes into Linux and play it?
[07:21] <intardnet> phuzion: should/where do we report that?
[07:21] <SeanInSeattle> regardless of the type of player or process.
[07:21] <VSpike> if I remove and re-install dovecot, what would it do with my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf ?
[07:21] <phuzion> intardnet, I'm sure its already been taken care of, considering the problem has stopped.
[07:21] <intardnet> phuzion: gotcha...
[07:22] <Chipsa964> hmm...how long does it normally take to resize a partition...cuz ive been stuck at 0% for a long time
[07:22] <SeanInSeattle> Good evening everyone.  Does anyone know how to pull music that has been purchased legally through iTunes into Linux and play it, regardless of the process or player required?
[07:22] <darkcrab> can you guys tell me what ICMP and TOS filtering is?
[07:22] <demo_> ciao
[07:22] <farruinn> How do I set environment variables for applications launched from within gnome?
[07:22] <VSpike> because that's what I did and it seems to have broken dovecot.  /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf has a date of a moment ago, and I have dovecot.ocnf.bak and dovecot.conf~ both with dates of a dew months ago
[07:22] <Wavesonics> hi
[07:23] <phuzion> Chicco, it depends on how large the partition is, silly.
[07:23] <demo_> ciao da italia
[07:23] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: I don't think anyone has gotten around the DRM on those, but I could be wrong
[07:23] <phuzion> A 2 MB partition will resize in nearly no time, but an exabyte partition will take a long time to resize
[07:23] <Chipsa964> 100 gb
[07:23] <Chipsa964> oh wait, it kicked in
[07:24] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn: look here:  http://tinyurl.com/24wzet
[07:24] <Chipsa964> it took it forever though
[07:24] <VSpike> is the date shown in ls -l the last modified date, and if a file was renamed, would this datestamp be changed or not?
[07:24] <mikebot> Does anyone know why sometimes I can't open folders on my desktop (it says "the folder contents could note be displayed")? Also, when this happens, I can't open files on my desktop either.
[07:24] <Wavesonics> ok so i got a problem :/, i copied a file to a floppy in linux from an NTFS partition. the floppy was not unmounted properly, and the linux instance was hard booted. I took the floppy and am on a new comp now, and the floppy will not mount
[07:24] <Wavesonics> any ideas please?
[07:24] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  That page is valid, assuming that you're using the default bash shell that's included with ubuntu.
[07:24] <VSpike> Wavesonics: best you can do is try fsck I think
[07:24] <|2-bits|> is there an equalizer program of some sort of equalizer program for ALSA? I am watching a movie, but I want to lower the bass so that I don't bother my roommates
[07:25] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: I don't mean launching things from the shell - I'm talking about for applications launched from the gnome-panel for example
[07:25] <mikebot> Oh, but when this happens I can still browse the folder through other stuff (like loading a file in VLC or something).
[07:26] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: Unless those are supposed to check .bash_profile too?
[07:26] <Wavesonics> VSpike, thanks, giving it a try
[07:26] <Wavesonics> fsck /media/floppy0 and just let it roll?
[07:26] <VSpike> farruinn: If you want to do it for everyone, maybe rc.local is the place to set it.
[07:26] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  Sorry, I miss-understood what you were trying to do.  Would it be possible for you to clarify?
[07:27] <l815> anyone know how to get java to work in firefox 3 (hardy)
[07:27] <Starnestommy> l815: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:27] <|2-bits|> Or is there any sort of video player with an equalizer that I could use to adjust the levels?
[07:27] <VSpike> Wavesonics: I think sudo "fsck -Vr /dev/fd0"
[07:27] <Wavesonics> oh, another small problem, I have an onboard sound card, and a "real" sound card, how can I get Ubuntu to use my add in card for sound?
[07:27] <VSpike> Wavesonics: Sorry "sudo fsck -Vr /dev/fd0"
[07:28] <l815> will do
[07:28] <Wavesonics> Vr options are?
[07:28] <VSpike> Wavesonics: make sure it's not mounted
[07:28] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: Sure - I've installed a kde program from source into /usr/local. It has some plugins which reside in /usr/local/lib/kde3, but when I launch the program KDE doesn't know to look there.
[07:28] <raju> bazhang, while booting the livecd i thing the aufs is not loaded with the kernel what to do
[07:28] <VSpike> Wavesonics: V should be verbose, r should be interactive
[07:28] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: I need to set $KDEDIRS=/usr/local:/usr
[07:28] <VSpike> Wavesonics: you may want to look at the fs specific options too.. what fs it it?
[07:29] <raju>  while booting the livecd i thing the aufs is not loaded with the kernel what to do
[07:29] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  lol.  I wish that I had enough experience to answer that question.  I'm sorry.
[07:29] <Wavesonics> hhmmm, well it was originally Win32 files on it, i just took it, did rm -rf * then copied files from a NTFS partition to it
[07:29] <cjones> why do you record what i say and put it on the net ?
[07:29] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: no problem, I think did answer it actually :) I put it in my .bashrc, but not .profile. I think it's working now
[07:29] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: (with it in .profile that is)
[07:29] <Wavesonics> it says the super block may be corrupt
[07:30] <VSpike> Wavesonics: it's almost certainly fat in which case I think -f (force fix) is useuful
[07:30] <Wavesonics> so  fsck -f?
[07:30] <iRoOoN> any one know how to change the language on ex-chat ? for example i cant read the Arabic word in side the ex-chat
[07:31] <tanner> what is the best/simpliest way to backup (differential/incremental) of directories?
[07:31] <Wavesonics> btw VSpike thanks alot so far :)
[07:31] <SeanInSeattle> faruinn:  Cool.  Do you know if anyone has been able to coerce apple customer service into converting their music to mp3, or if the apple reps had a viable solution for them?
[07:31] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: Ack, it didn't do it :/ Right now I'm launching it from a script to set the variable but I don't want to run into this problem again
[07:32] <VSpike> Wavesonics: yw :) just add a -f into the original line I said
[07:32] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  I'm using mostly commandline and icewm for my x windows experience.
[07:32] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: Well, first I doubt they'd convert to mp3 since they developed their AAC format and it fuels their iPod sales
[07:33] <cjones> why does ubuntu  record what we  say in here and put it on the net ?
[07:33] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: I hear you, my file manager is a sticky terminal :)
[07:33] <farruinn> cjones: it's a form of reference, like forums, wikis, blogs, etc.
[07:33] <Wavesonics> VSpike, thanks a million! I got it!
[07:34] <cjones> farruinn shouldent it be posted as we enter the room
[07:34] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  (on the subject of music w/ drm) If I purchased the music legally, I should have the right to do with it what I wish.... right?
[07:35] <Wavesonics> any idea on how to get Linux to use my add in sound card instead of the onboard?
[07:35] <N8TE> What's up everyone, this is n8te the great
[07:35] <N8TE> What's up everyone, this is n8te the great
[07:35] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: Of course, but that's not how the record companies think
[07:35] <cjones> its illegal in my state to not let the person know they are being recorded
[07:35] <farruinn> cjones: not really - anyone could be logging this and it's a public form of communication anyway.
[07:36] <VSpike> Wavesonics: did it repair OK?
[07:36] <benny_> so I'm having this issue with emerald
[07:36] <Wavesonics> yes VSpike, repaired and I got the file
[07:36] <benny_> where it will only apply to the area around the window, but not to the contents of the window itself
[07:36] <VSpike> Wavesonics: great :)
[07:36] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  So I just start buying non-drm stuff, and forget about all that music that's got the drm?
[07:37] <Wavesonics> now I'm having the same problem with my NTFS hdd lol, trying the fix on that, i think I hard reset windows last time
[07:37] <benny_> so like my titlebar and everything works great, but the rest of the window looks like regular old gnome
[07:37] <cjones> to record someones words w/o there knowlege in any form is illegal in my state
[07:38] <cjones> not to mention its wrong
[07:38] <benny_> ?
[07:38] <VSpike> Wavesonics: if you need to find the fs specific options, do man fsck.vfat man fsck.ext3
[07:38] <VSpike> Wavesonics: just for future ref
[07:38] <Wavesonics> VSpike: aahh awesome thanks man
[07:39] <Wavesonics> sbd = Serial Bus Device?
[07:39] <farruinn> SeanInSeattle: I guess, or buy the CDs and rip them to a non-drm'd format.
[07:39] <kenny``> I just installed compiz-fusion! tell me please how to move the cube!
[07:39] <Wavesonics> because I'm using IDE not SATA, but it is registering my storage hdd as sbd1
[07:39] <SeanInSeattle> farruinn:  Funny, I think its been more than ten years since I bought a CD.
[07:39] <Wavesonics> kenny'': hold middle mouse button in and move the mouse
[07:40] <VSpike> kenny``: or try crtl-alt-laft
[07:40] <benny_> any ideas?
[07:40] <Wavesonics> laft?
[07:40] <VSpike> Wavesonics: typo :)
[07:40] <Wavesonics> ah, left mouse
[07:40] <Wavesonics> hehe
[07:40] <VSpike> Wavesonics: i meant cursor left
[07:41] <Wavesonics> got ya
[07:41] <VSpike> Wavesonics: i have a 3yo jumping on me saying "what are you doing daddy?" repeatedly
[07:41] <Wavesonics> haha yes i can see that making it difficult
[07:41] <kenny``> Wavesonics: is there any other choice? I`m using a laptop and i don`t have a middle button :(
[07:41] <VSpike> Wavesonics: isn't it sdb1 ?
[07:41] <VSpike> kenny``: try ctrl-alt-cursor left
[07:42] <kenny``> VSpike: nothin`
[07:42] <Wavesonics> sdb yes
[07:42] <VSpike> kenny``: or just try dragging a window off the side of the screen
[07:42] <Wavesonics> serial device bus? idfk
[07:42] <VSpike> kenny``: you may not have the cube plugin enabled
[07:42] <Wavesonics> Kenny``: You need to have more then one desktop too
[07:42] <drambuie> both left and right pushed at the same time should act as the middle button
[07:42] <kenny``> i have 4
[07:43] <FantomZx> âñåì ïðèâåò )
[07:43] <VSpike> kenny``: try installing compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:43] <kenny``> i did
[07:43] <VSpike> Wavesonics: SCSI Disk b
[07:43] <kenny``> maybe i didn`t enable all the necessary options?
[07:43] <Wavesonics> I'm really looking forward to 8.04, maybe my dual head will finially work :)
[07:44] <VSpike> kenny``: or you need to go to settings - preferences - effects and enable the max setting
[07:44] <Wavesonics> SCSI, well thats just crazy lol, it's not SCSI
[07:44] <Wavesonics> VSpike: fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[07:44] <raju> how to use ffmpeg " ineed to convert flv to mpeg"
[07:44] <VSpike> Wavesonics: used to be that IDE buses were hda, hdb, ... and devices one them were hda1, hda2...
[07:45] <Wavesonics> right, thats what i remember, but i havent used Linux for about a year
[07:45] <VSpike> Wavesonics: and scsi buses were sda, sdb, devices sda1, sda2...
[07:45] <VSpike> Wavesonics: lots of things like flash disks were emulated as scsi bus devices
[07:46] <Wavesonics> ah
[07:46] <VSpike> Wavesonics: newer kernels now use the same driver for ide disks so they now all show as sdX
[07:46] <VSpike> Wavesonics: btw linux has no chkdsk/fsck for ntfs
[07:47] <VSpike> Wavesonics: only way to do it is to boot into windows, unfortunately
[07:47] <Wavesonics> VSpike: i know mounting SATA drives was a problem b4, is that wrapped now and handled the same as the rest?
[07:47] <Wavesonics> crappy, ok I'll try that, thanks
[07:47] <VSpike> Wavesonics: should all happen transparently.. it does fo rme at least
[07:47] <Wavesonics> nice
[07:47] <chrome> Wavesonics: sata seems pretty stable now
[07:48] <phuzion> Anyone got a good command line .IMG burning program?  Apparently dvdrecord doesn't want to do it for me :(
[07:49] <VSpike> to answer my own question, ls -l shows mtime which is last time a file was opened for write.  renaming a file modifies ctime, the last time a file status was changed.  ls -lc shows ctime.  and this reveals that dovecot.conf.bak is my old config file
[07:50] <VSpike> it's kind of naughty of a package to rename an existing config file without telling you
[07:50] <Griz64> Hey gang. which package does  krandrtray  live in?
[07:50] <Griz64> belay that.
[07:50] <Griz64> Hey gang. which package does  krfb  live in?
[07:51] <VSpike> Griz64: krfb :)
[07:51] <farruinn> Griz64: apt-cache search is your friend :)
[07:51] <farruinn> Griz64: or packages.ubuntu.com, that's a useful one
[07:51] <josh_> is there an emerald alternative
[07:51] <VSpike> Griz64: was going to say "aptitude search" but the result is the same
[07:51] <josh_> to use with compiz fusion
[07:52] <Griz64> VSpike, yeah, i'm just too tired. :-(  I was right, the first time. krandrtray is what I'm after. :-(  (sorry all)
[07:52] <Griz64> VSpike, yeah, too many hours with my eyes open. :-(
[07:52] <VSpike> Griz64: know the feeling :)
[07:52] <Griz64> Hey gang. which package does  krandrtray  live in?
[07:53] <Griz64> (sigh)   There! THAT is the question I meant to ask.
[07:53] <Skeep> hi all
[07:53] <josh_> is there an emerald alterative when using compiz fusion, i'm using debian with ailgx and i cant get emerald to work
[07:54] <crdlb> josh_: please join #compiz-fusion
[07:54] <josh_> tghx
[07:57] <SJrX> I don't seem to be able to get wireless on this notebook to work
[07:57] <abortd> how do i add more desktops?
[07:57] <SJrX> The wireless card does not seem to turn on at all
[07:57] <VSpike> SJrX: what card is it?
[07:58] <bosanac> Hello people i'm running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i have created IRCD server "oftc-hybrid" i think that was the name but i dont know how to remove the server ( to delete the IRCD ) can somebody help me please i really need some help :S ?
[07:58] <SJrX> Intel Pro Wireless 210[ 3B Mini PCI
[07:58] <SJrX> before I got it to detect wireless networks that were around
[07:58] <SJrX> but I could never connect and it always said there was no power
[07:58] <ere4si> abortd, right click the workspace changer
[07:58] <VSpike> SJrX: 2100 ? should work out of the box
[07:59] <VSpike> SJrX: there does seem to be a nasty driver bug on it though..
[07:59] <abortd> not seeing anything that lets me add any
[07:59] <SJrX> VSpike yeah it seems mostly to do that, however this Ubuntu was installed under VMWare since this notebook has no hard drive. So some packages were not installed properly.
[07:59] <SJrX> I have gotten an external wireless card to work
[07:59] <SJrX> but this one is a no go.
[07:59] <abortd> coolya, anarchy online?
[07:59] <SJrX> What is the bug VSpike
[07:59] <SJrX> right now kwifimanager says the card is disabled
[08:00] <VSpike> SJrX: look in dmesg and see if you have anything saying "scheduling firmware restart" or similar
[08:00] <VSpike> SJrX: hmm for me the bug just stops it scanning
[08:00] <VSpike> SJrX: doesn't show as disabled
[08:00] <murlidhar> there is a nautilus script i don't remember which opens the terminal in the current browser
[08:00] <murlidhar> directory
[08:01] <VSpike> SJrX: try lsmod | grep ipw2100
[08:01] <kenny``> another question: I restarted the system and now I can`t enable the cube option! what to do?
[08:01] <JDStone> why isn't webmin in the Ubuntu repos?
[08:01] <SJrX> hmmmm
[08:02] <murlidhar> when u right click on the desktop , a option comes to start terminal??????
[08:02] <Starnestommy> JDStone: I think it was removed due to some sort of security issues
[08:02] <SJrX> I don't see anything with firmware in dmesg. It just starts the card
[08:02] <JDStone> hmm, alright
[08:02] <Rgem> Is there a channel about regular expressions?
[08:02] <SJrX> the other wierd thing
[08:02] <SJrX> is that this notebook doesn't have an eth0
[08:02] <JDStone> Starnestommy: do you know of an alternative?
[08:02] <SJrX> it shows up in dmesg for a second with some junk
[08:02] <SJrX> but then disappears
[08:02] <SJrX> I don't know what it is
[08:02] <murlidhar> brb
[08:03] <JDStone> Starnestommy: an alternative to webmin, that is
[08:03] <VSpike> Rgem: i think #regex
[08:03] <Starnestommy> JDStone: I think ebox
[08:03] <JDStone> Starnestommy: alright, cool.  I'll look into it
[08:03] <JDStone> Starnestommy: thanks
[08:04] <Rgem> VSpike: thanks
[08:04] <SJrX> yeah it's there VSpike
[08:04] <Rgem> I hope they'll answer my question -.-
[08:05] <jack-desktop> happy days light savings time ;p
[08:05] <mip> what is the correct command for dos2unix in ubuntu. dos2unix no longer exist and it is modified.
[08:05] <[RIT]Rawn027> Has anyone seen this error? fatal: need service transport:endpoint instead of "inet"
[08:05] <[RIT]Rawn027> postfix setup with mysql backend
[08:06] <jack-desktop> where is sources.list located?
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> jack-desktop: the find command works
[08:06] <intardnet> jack-desktop: System>Administration>Software Sources
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> find / -name FILE_NAME
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> boom, there it is :)
[08:06] <jack-desktop> find command doesnt work
[08:06] <jack-desktop> i wish it did
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> use a cli
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> it works fine
[08:06] <[RIT]Rawn027> every time, like a charm
[08:07] <[RIT]Rawn027> just need to read the man page :)
[08:07] <padski> how do I set my ubuntu install so that it will automatically upgrade to each new release ?
[08:07] <mip> what is the equivalent command for "dos2unix" latest distributions ?
[08:07] <Rgem> I've been trying to get the 'abc' of this code with regex: ;h=abc" target but it seems to be impossible, how to do this?
[08:07] <jack-desktop> you could of easily said "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:08] <intardnet> jack-desktop: true, but you probably want the gui anyway, its less to mess up
[08:08] <jack-desktop> nope ;)
[08:08] <jack-desktop> why didn't my clock update for days light savings?
[08:09] <Rgem> please someone help me with my regex question. The #regex channel doesn't answer.
[08:10] <padski> Rgem, more detail
[08:12] <harmental> hey guys...why are the xemacs menus and fonts so UGLY in linux?
[08:13] <Rgem> I want to get everthing after h= so `;h=blahblah213" target` without " and target. Only blahblah213 in this example
[08:13] <Gnea> Rgem: using what program?
[08:13] <Rgem> VB.net
[08:13] <Rgem> ereg
[08:13] <Gnea> er, that's a windows program
[08:14] <raju> i am getting while booting the livecd which i created based on ubuntu doc
[08:14] <raju> i am not able to boot the livecd which i created based on ubuntu doc
[08:14] <padski> Rgem, echo ';h=blahblah213" target' | sed 's/;h=\([^"]*\)".*/\1/'
[08:15] <intardnet> harmental: i am not entirely certain, but i think its because the X graphics library is ugly/outdated
[08:15] <intardnet> harmental: im not sure tho
[08:16] <intardnet> raju: did you burn the ISO file to the disk, or did you extract the contents of the iso file to the disk?
[08:16] <intardnet> raju: what program did you use to burn the program?
[08:17] <raju> intardnet, i am using k3b
[08:17] <Gnea> raju: you'll need to click on "more options" on the bottom, then select "burn CD image"
[08:18] <harmental> intardnet: thx....i there any way to "update" it?? its really beginnig to pisse me off since im doing lots of work in R (using xemacs) and its starting to make my eyes bleed... :o\
[08:18] <VSpike> Rgem: Rgem you need to do something like \;h=(?<value>[^\;])
[08:18] <VSpike> Rgem: that will create a named match
[08:18] <intardnet> harmental: lemme install it and make sure its what i think it is
[08:18] <raju> intardnet, what i downloaded from ubuntu is working , withat image i created a live cd by following the ubuntu doc , is not working
[08:19] <VSpike> Rgem: access with e.g. match.Groups["value"].Value
[08:19] <Gnea> raju: did you modify the contents of the ISO, then try to burn it?
[08:19] <Rgem> I'm going to try to use split() again...
[08:19] <VSpike> Rgem: sorry \;h=(?<value>[^\;]*)
[08:20] <harmental> Intrepd: ok..let me take a look...
[08:20] <harmental> Intrepd: i cant find it in the repos...
[08:20] <Rgem> VSpike, with that it doesn't stop when I sees target
[08:20] <SJrX> VSpike I got the card enabled but now it doesn't pick up any APs
[08:21] <raju> Gnea, some changes i did
[08:21] <Rgem> It'll select everything (the whole source) behind ;h=
[08:21] <SJrX> iwconfig shows the current txpower to be 39 mW. My other notebook is currently at 32mW  and can see 6 APs
[08:21] <VSpike> Rgem: you are using the regex object in code?
[08:22] <Rgem> wait, you're code is nearly working
[08:22] <Rgem> your*
[08:22] <Gnea> what the... did we just lose an hour? my computer clock says we did, but my phone seems stuck in the past still
[08:22] <Rgem> \;h=(?<value>[^\"]*)
[08:22] <Rgem> this works better
[08:22] <intardnet> Gnea: daylight savings time
[08:22] <Starnestommy> Gnea: daylight savings time begins tonight
[08:23] <Rgem> but I don't want the ;h= selected. Just the value behind it
[08:23] <Starnestommy> and your phone probably didn't know
[08:23] <Gnea> yeah that's what i figured... gonna give alltel some hell in a bit
[08:23] <Rgem> VSpike: without the ;h= it would be perfect
[08:23] <Gnea> wow. as i typed that, it updated and jumped forward. LOL
[08:24] <VSpike> Rgem: are you using this in code or in the search/replace box?
[08:24] <josh_> could somone point me to the compiz channel please
[08:24] <VSpike> josh_: #compiz-fusion
[08:24] <josh_> thx
[08:24] <nonix4> Starnestommy: umm, you mean europe <-> us time zone diff is off by one from the usual for next twenty days again?
[08:24] <Rgem> VSpike, well.. I'm trying the regexp code in a program made for it. called:  'Expresso'
[08:25] <Rgem> but if it works, I can use it in the VB.net aswell
[08:25] <Starnestommy> nonix4: probably
[08:26] <abortd> how can i resize my linux partition? would i have to use a live cd?
[08:26] <j0sh> hello
[08:26] <j0sh> I have a problem and I'm wondering if someone here could help me...
[08:27] <abortd> if you tell people what the problem is they can help you more than likely
[08:27] <SuperDude> Hey folks
[08:27] <Rgem> SuperDude: hi :)
[08:27] <j0sh> ok, I made the transparency setting on compiz to 0 for "any" window
[08:27] <j0sh> how can I fix that account?
[08:28] <abortd> so if you open something you cant see it?
[08:28] <j0sh> yes
[08:28] <abortd> one sec
[08:28] <j0sh> but I have this accout that has admin access
[08:30] <theo_> Bonjour à tous :)
[08:30] <bluefoxx> http://www.positiveesolutions.com/store/baby-arena-bays-scsi-raid-solution-p-824757.html >is one sexy device...i want one << or two or three XD
[08:31] <|2-bits|> aww
[08:31] <Parsec300> j0sh: that's funny!
[08:31] <|2-bits|> j0sh: I might have a solution for you
[08:31] <j0sh> yeah? =D
[08:31] <VSpike> Rgem: I know that will work in vb.net because i am using it.  When you do Match match = Regex.Match(theString, theRegex); the match object has a lot of subobjects which represent all the matched groups
[08:31] <|2-bits|> I assume you're using the terminal right?
[08:31] <|2-bits|> irssi or something
[08:31] <j0sh> no, I'm on another account with admin access
[08:31] <|2-bits|> okay
[08:32] <VSpike> Rgem: you'll get anonymous, numbered groups but you can create named groups like I showed you
[08:32] <Parsec300> j0sh: I've had the friction set to almost 0 once for wobbly windows and if you gave a window a small movement, it would leave the screen permanently.
[08:32] <abortd> what window manager does gnome normally run how do i replace compiz with it?
[08:32] <|2-bits|> well, when you go into the account with the problem, type ps -e
[08:32] <SinnerG> Anyone who can help me with running a cod4 server on ubuntu? It segfaults the whole time and gdb tells me it isnt an executable?
[08:32] <|2-bits|> (i'm getting ahead of myself)
[08:32] <|2-bits|> first press ctrl-alt-f1 for a dumb terminal
[08:32] <|2-bits|> to get back you press ctrl-alt-f7, but that's for later
[08:33] <Rgem> VSpike: I get Regex not declared
[08:33] <|2-bits|> then type ps -e, which will list the running processes
[08:33] <VSpike> Rgem: test it here http://regexlib.com/RETester.aspx it doesn't do named groups but it will accept the syntax and show you the numbered groups returned
[08:33] <Parsec300> abortd: Gnome IS the window manager.
[08:33] <|2-bits|> Parsec300: isn't metacity?
[08:33] <oboy03> why can't i use wifi on my laptop
[08:33] <VSpike> Rgem: you need to add "using System.Text.RegularExressions;"
[08:33] <oboy03> im using broadcom bcm94311mcg
[08:33] <|2-bits|> j0sh: find the one for compiz, and type kill [whatever number is associated with it]
[08:34] <j0sh> ok, should I log in to the problem account to do this?
[08:34] <|2-bits|> yes
[08:34] <Parsec300> abortd: You can turn off compiz in the settings menu and turn off the fancy desktop effects.
[08:34] <j0sh> ok, thanks guys =D
[08:34] <j0sh> I'll check back and let you know
[08:34] <|2-bits|> remember: ctrl-alt-f7 to get out of the dumb terminal
[08:34] <VSpike> josh__: you could try alt-f2 .. metacity --replace <return>
[08:34] <j0sh> oh wait, I think I uninstalled compiz when I tried to fix it myself
[08:34] <|2-bits|> oh
[08:35] <j0sh> does compiz make some sort of .conf file?
[08:35] <|2-bits|> actually...
[08:35] <|2-bits|> I believe it does O.o
[08:36] <crdlb> j0sh: just use the "Failsafe gnome" session
[08:36] <Parsec300> |2-bits|: I thought Gnome was the windows manager.
[08:36] <crdlb> j0sh: compiz will not start in that session
[08:36] <Rgem> VSpike: Error	1	'System.Text.RegularExpressions' is a namespace and cannot be used as an expression.	C:\Documents and Settings\Bart\Mijn documenten\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Tribrowse\Tribrowse\Form1.vb	145	15	Tribrowse
[08:36] <j0sh> ok, I'll try failsafe gnome
[08:36] <j0sh> thanks, I'll get back soon
[08:36] <|2-bits|> Parsec300: It's a desktop environment, not a window manager.
[08:36] <|2-bits|> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[08:37] <VSpike> Rgem: sorry i probably gave you c# syntax - haven't used vb.net ... just remove c#-isms like semicolons
[08:37] <|2-bits|> Metacity is part of the GNOME project though
[08:37] <Rgem> VSpike, I did that already :0
[08:38] <VSpike> which vnc server will let me access an X session that is already running?
[08:38] <Parsec300> |2-bits|: You are correct
[08:38] <|2-bits|> oboy03: have you solved your problem?
[08:38] <|2-bits|> I have the exact same wifi card as you
[08:39] <Ayabara> how can I get debhelper 6 in ubuntu?
[08:39] <VSpike> Rgem: sounds like you just have the syntax a bit off.. you probably need vb.net help.  try irc.efnet.net, '
[08:39] <Ayabara> 5 is in the repos
[08:39] <Ayabara> (gutsy)
[08:40] <j0sh> problem solved! thanks a lot!
[08:41] <j0sh> I'll try not to be so stupid next time =)
[08:44] <ngominhduc16> ^^
[08:47] <Sinnerman> is there a limit to the number of loopback devices i can have, is it restricted by the kernel, or can i create more? there are 8 in /dev, from loop0-loop7.
[08:48] <solid_liq> Sinnerman, you can create more
[08:48] <Sinnerman> solid_liq just making a new one with a different minor number thing? i forgot how to do that.
[08:49] <solid_liq> Sinnerman, it'll probably autocreate more
[08:50] <Sinnerman> solid_liq i was just wondering, because i've been dabbling with truecrypt and moutned image files and was wondering if there were a physical limitation to the number of image files you had mounted at any one time, seeing as they used loop devices. hmm.
[08:52] <Cain_> KEEP ON SMILING lalalala
[08:52] <Sinnerman> how do i clear the command history of my terminal?
[08:53] <mh512> Sinnerman: history -c
[08:53] <Sinnerman> mh512 thank you.
[08:56] <Sinnerman> problem: i am using truecrypt to mount an encrypted filesystem (virtual), but it requires root permission to mount. i don't want to grant it root for obvious reasons, is there a workaround to mount a file i own (as a normal user)?
[08:56] <niklas> How do I remove a file through terminal?
[08:56] <|2-bits|> rm
[08:56] <|2-bits|> niklas: use the rm command
[08:57] <cpk1> use it carefully though!
[08:57] <|2-bits|> Yes
[08:57] <|2-bits|> listen to cpk1!
[08:57] <niklas> /home/niklas/.opera/lock because I need to delete this file
[08:57] <solid_liq> Sinnerman, the loop device is virtual, not real, so it's only limited by memory (RAM)
[08:57] <student> I don't know what has happened to me... I have forgotten some things :( Can someone help me? => I want to cat all files following a certain pattern of wildcards, but these file as in date format name (MMDDYY) and I dont want things like 39 in day. Please someone refresh my memory about this.
[08:57] <niklas> But I can't find by going to My Computer and further on?
[08:58] <Cain_> student: would grep help?
[08:58] <|2-bits|> that's because anything with a '.' in front of it is a hidden folder
[08:58] <Lovecats> hi all
[08:58] <cpk1> niklas: thats because the .opera folder is hidden, folders prefixed with a . are hidden
[08:58] <b_ecca> hi :)
[08:58] <Sinnerman> solid_liq oh, fair enough. i guess i'll cross the bridge of how many and how when i get to that... which will probably never happen. thanks.
[08:58] <student> Cain_: no regex man, just in shell using cmd line
[08:58] <Lovecats> can someone tell me if there is a program out there that shows me all available wireless SSIDs?
[08:58] <student> Cain_: cat [01]....
[08:58] <niklas> |2-bits|: ok I see, i'm new in ubuntu. Can you show me how I can delete that fiel then?
[08:59] <b_ecca> Lovecats: kismet would be nice
[08:59] <Lovecats> b_ecca ok
[08:59] <Lovecats> i tried to download and compile it
[08:59] <|2-bits|> well...
[08:59] <Lovecats> but i ran into some probs :D
[08:59] <b_ecca> yeah i know that would happen
[08:59] <b_ecca> you have to setup a couple of things
[08:59] <Lovecats> yeah like libnc someting
[08:59] <|2-bits|> try sudo rm "your file, including the directory" -i
[09:00] <Lovecats> it said it needed
[09:00] <b_ecca> for one thing: setup the kismet.conf file and stuff
[09:00] <|2-bits|> without quotes
[09:00] <patrickva> Press Alt + Ctrl + Backspace.
[09:00] <patrickva> Lovecats
[09:00] <|2-bits|> the -i flag makes the rm ask you before it deletes any files
[09:00] <Lovecats> yes patrick
[09:00] <b_ecca> Lovecats: you could try installing it using the repositories, that would also install the pre reqs
[09:00] <|2-bits|> niklas: so that you can be sure
[09:00] <patrickva> Do that.
[09:00] <Lovecats> so using the ubuntu package manager?
[09:00] <patrickva> Lovecats.
[09:00] <Tondar> is any application to enable me to create my oun desktop , for expample I want to change size of icons on my desktop
[09:00] <Cain_> i gtg CRAP
[09:00] <patrickva> It installs your package.
[09:00] <Tondar> how I can do that ?
[09:00] <b_ecca> yup
[09:01] <patrickva> Lovecats.
[09:01] <|2-bits|> niklas: there's another way
[09:01] <niklas> Ok :]
[09:01] <b_ecca> it also installs the required packages without you having to scratch your head :)
[09:01] <niklas> Tell me :D
[09:01] <Lovecats> yes patirck
[09:01] <|2-bits|> niklas: you could not use the terminal at all...
[09:01] <niklas> okok
[09:01] <|2-bits|> open up Computer
[09:01] <Lovecats> so i just open the ubuntu package manager?
[09:01] <b_ecca> yup
[09:01] <niklas> yes
[09:01] <b_ecca> then search for kismet
[09:01] <Lovecats> k
[09:02] <Lovecats> then i marked
[09:02] <|2-bits|> notice that near the top is a little bar that shows the current directory
[09:02] <Lovecats> for installation
[09:02] <b_ecca> yup
[09:02] <b_ecca> then apply
[09:02] <|2-bits|> click the little pen and paper near it
[09:02] <Lovecats> k
[09:02] <Lovecats> instlling now
[09:02] <|2-bits|> niklas: type in the directory you want...
[09:02] <b_ecca> nice
[09:02] <Lovecats> k done installing
[09:02] <Lovecats> now what?
[09:02] <|2-bits|> niklas: then, you should be able to see the file
[09:02] <|2-bits|> and just delete it
[09:03] <niklas> Yes I see :] but the file isnt there?
[09:03] <b_ecca> setup the kismet.conf file
[09:03] <b_ecca> i mean edit the kismet.conf file
[09:03] <Lovecats> k
[09:03] <|2-bits|> oh. then the file is hidden. follow my earlier advice, i guess :P
[09:03] <|2-bits|> or it's not there
[09:04] <Lovecats> where is the kismet.conf file/
[09:04] <b_ecca> /etc/kismet
[09:04] <dkT> Anyone had trouble installing from a boot disc on an IBM R61?
[09:04] <b_ecca> /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[09:04] <Lovecats> k brb
[09:04] <niklas> My god, why is Opera doing this to me. I deleted that file now, I found it. But still it wont work ??
[09:04] <b_ecca> find the line where it says source=
[09:05] <b_ecca> you should edit that line
[09:05] <Sinnerman> how do i allow a normal user to mount a device? device in this case is going to be a truecrypt partition.
[09:05] <|2-bits|> niklas: you could try #opera
[09:05] <murlidhar> where can i find the location of firfox plugins???
[09:06] <|2-bits|> murlidhar: addons.mozilla.org i believe
[09:06] <|2-bits|> or do you mean on ubuntu :P
[09:06] <b_ecca> murlidhar try googling it
[09:06] <Lovecats> ok im a bit overwhelmed by the kismet.conf file :X
[09:06] <murlidhar> i mean in ubuntu
[09:07] <b_ecca> Lovecats: just find the line where it says source=
[09:07] <Lovecats> k
[09:07] <|2-bits|> niklas: any luck?
[09:07] <Lovecats> ok i found it
[09:07] <niklas> no :[
[09:07] <b_ecca> edit it to be like this 'source=madwifi_ag,wifi0,AtherosAG'
[09:07] <Lovecats> where do i get those names from?
[09:07] <Lovecats> and are they specific per pc?
[09:07] <murlidhar> it is not there in /usr/share/firefox/
[09:08] <|2-bits|> okay, maybe this isn't an ideal solution, but have you tried uninstalling it and then reinstalling
[09:08] <b_ecca> they are driver specific,
[09:08] <b_ecca> source="sourcetype,interface,name"
[09:08] <niklas> |2-bits|: many time :P
[09:08] <oboy03> 2bits: i still have th eproblem
[09:08] <|2-bits|> oboy03: alright
[09:08] <Lovecats> b_ecca so do i need to look like in my network config file?
[09:08] <oboy03> im using ethernet right now, but wifi wont work
[09:08] <Lovecats> to get the detailed name
[09:09] <ICQnumber> murlidhar, try something like ~/.mozilla/fireforx bla bla
[09:09] <oboy03> i got it to the point that the wifi light is on but still does not connect to my router
[09:09] <b_ecca> nope, most pc's today use madwifi drivers to put the wireless card into network mode
[09:09] <Lovecats> so just use what u put exactly?
[09:09] <|2-bits|> oboy03: ah. Is your router hidden?
[09:09] <b_ecca> you can try it
[09:09] <oboy03> no
[09:09] <oboy03> i got wap on it though
[09:10] <ICQnumber> murlidhar, found?
[09:10] <|2-bits|> My main problem was just getting it to work.
[09:10] <|2-bits|> oboy03: are you using ndiswrapper?
[09:10] <b_ecca> after editing it try running kismet from terminal
[09:10] <Lovecats> k
[09:10] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, u mean in home folder?  No i can't find the plugin folder
[09:10] <oboy03> nope
[09:10] <|2-bits|> Ah.
[09:10] <Lovecats> for some reason i cant copy text from Konv
[09:10] <crexor> http://www.crexor.net/~crexor/ubuntu/
[09:10] <Lovecats> ah
[09:10] <Lovecats> there it is :D
[09:10] <|2-bits|> oboy03: Broadcom wireless chips won't work on linux without ndiswrapper. you can get the blue light to come on, but it still won't work
[09:11] <|2-bits|> oboy03: try this: http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[09:11] <Lovecats> b_ecca what about suiduser?
[09:11] <b_ecca> Lovecats: after running kismet, you shouldnt be able to see any networks but can run kismet
[09:11] <oboy03> oki dokee i'll try that
[09:11] <oboy03> how bout u? have u made it work already?
[09:11] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, actually i have installed firefox 3 beta 3 manually now i want the plugins to be installed in it.
[09:11] <b_ecca> change the suiduser to your username
[09:11] <Lovecats> k
[09:12] <|2-bits|> oboy03: I have used it, it works.
[09:12] <Lovecats> and uncomment it :D
[09:12] <b_ecca> suiduser=yourusername
[09:12] <b_ecca> yup
[09:12] <|2-bits|> oboy03: Basically ndiswrapper allows you to use windows drivers in linux for wireless
[09:12] <|2-bits|> because broadcom never writes them for linux :(
[09:12] <oboy03> can u help me with this?
[09:12] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, i want to copy the plugins from the firefox 2 to the firefox 3 folder.
[09:12] <|2-bits|> Probably
[09:12] <armedking> Anyone know what the shortcut whas for making your mouse into an app killer?
[09:12] <Lovecats> k
[09:12] <Lovecats> running kismet now
[09:12] <Lovecats> from command line
[09:13] <b_ecca> can you see any networks?
[09:13] <|2-bits|> I would advise you to deviate from those instructions and install the latest version of ndiswrapper for the heck of it.
[09:13] <oboy03> ok
[09:13] <Lovecats> FATAL: Unable to set pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid
[09:13] <b_ecca> wait a sec
[09:14] <Lovecats> k
[09:14] <|2-bits|> just replace 1.49 with 1.52 anytime you see that
[09:14] <weltall> how do i check who uses /dev/dsp? i've tried fuser but no results and alsa refuses to work when dsp is busy (even if dsp is just an emulation of alsa)
[09:14] <b_ecca> are you sure its "/var/run//kismet_server.pid" i think theres a part where theres a double //
[09:14] <josh_> i get a aixgl: driver claims to not suppport visual 0x32 what does this mean
[09:15] <josh_> it's from my xlog
[09:15] <oboy03> i'll start with ndiswrapper
[09:15] <Lovecats> yeah
[09:15] <Lovecats> i saw that becca
[09:15] <Lovecats> and yes there are two //
[09:15] <|2-bits|> alright
[09:15] <b_ecca> hmm try changing it to 1
[09:16] <Lovecats> where is it referencing that path?
[09:16] <b_ecca> check kismet.conf
[09:16] <Lovecats> k
[09:16] <oboy03> ?
[09:16] <chelz> any recommend a good keyboard that's fairly new?
[09:16] <mark[oz]> hey guys, if bash scripting, how can I check a file doesn't exist if [ ! -f "/tmp/mysql.sock" ]; isn't working
[09:16] <murlidhar> does anybody know how to make flash work in firefox 3 beta 3 ????
[09:17] <ICQnumber> murlidhar, how many folders do u have in ~/.mozilla/ ?
[09:17] <b_ecca> theres a line where it says piddir
[09:17] <|2-bits|> oboy03: oh and you might want to disable whatever you installed for wireless before that
[09:17] <oboy03> oh
[09:17] <oboy03> hm....
[09:17] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, two folders , extensions and firefox.
[09:17] <marckie> hellow!
[09:18] <marckie> !virtualbox
[09:18] <ubotwo> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[09:18] <marckie> !ntfs-3g
[09:18] <ubotwo> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:18] <|2-bits|> Is there anyway to resize ntfs partitions in linux?
[09:18] <Lovecats> becca
[09:18] <b_ecca> yup?
[09:18] <Lovecats> there is a place in the conf file
[09:18] <oboy03> 2bits: like bcm43xx fwcutter?
[09:18] <sidelil> excuse me, is it possibile to boot an isolinux bootable cd from GRUB
[09:19] <Lovecats> to reference the pid file
[09:19] <|2-bits|> oboy03: Precisely that
[09:19] <Lovecats> and its currently set to /var/run/
[09:19] <ICQnumber> murlidhar, well firefox folder is for ff2 and there is a file pluginreg.dat, which says where the plugin are installed
[09:19] <b_ecca> yeah that is right, are you using sudo when running kismet?
[09:19] <Lovecats> nope
[09:19] <Lovecats> should i be?
[09:19] <b_ecca> yup
[09:19] <Lovecats> k
[09:19] <Lovecats> one sec
[09:19] <marckie> huhummmm...
[09:19] <b_ecca> try issuing the command 'sudo kismet' @ terminal
[09:20] <Lovecats> i think its not gonna work cuz i had to use some pretty big hacks to get my wifi to work :D
[09:20] <b_ecca> oh, but i think you can work this out ;)
[09:20] <Lovecats> hehe
[09:21] <Lovecats> wel it says
[09:21] <oboy03> 2bits: where can i find the driver?
[09:21] <as> how people
[09:21] <as> ?
[09:21] <Lovecats> unable to create monitor-mode VAP..... WARNING: wifi0 appears to not accept Madwifi-NG controls....... FATAL: GetIFFlags: interface wifi0: no such device
[09:21] <|2-bits|> it's on the web page :)
[09:21] <as> ufff
[09:22] <|2-bits|> download it then copy it to your home directory
[09:22] <b_ecca> try editing the kismet.conf file
[09:22] <|2-bits|> then paste the commands into the terminal
[09:22] <|2-bits|> I recommend using gedit instead of vim though. vim gives me the willies :)
[09:22] <Lovecats> i use VI :D
[09:22] <b_ecca> but try using ifconfig 1st and tell me the interfaces that are there
[09:22] <Lovecats> ok
[09:22] <Lovecats> one sec
[09:23] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, so should i copy that dat file into the firefox 3 folder.?
[09:23] <Lovecats> lo and wlan0
[09:23] <cpk1> Lovecats: whats the wlanconfig command you are using?
[09:23] <Lovecats> i bet i need to change source to wlan0
[09:24] <Lovecats> well
[09:24] <Lovecats> thats a long story
[09:24] <Lovecats> my laptop
[09:24] <Lovecats> did not support my wifi
[09:24] <Lovecats> so someone i met in here helped me set it up
[09:24] <Lovecats> using some kind of wrapper??
[09:24] <Lovecats> i just installed madwifi tools
[09:25] <b_ecca> oh
[09:25] <b_ecca> thats why
[09:25] <ICQnumber> murlidhar, if it works the same way u can try....
[09:25] <Lovecats> my stupid gateway laptop didnt work straight out of the box
[09:25] <Lovecats> so we had to do some crazy stuff
[09:25] <Lovecats> like download the win98 drivers
[09:25] <cpk1> madwifi is still pretty easy to use...
[09:25] <cpk1> thats ndiswrapper
[09:25] <b_ecca> it is :)
[09:25] <Lovecats> yes
[09:25] <Lovecats> thats what we did :D
[09:26] <cpk1> why do you have a madwifi error from using wlanconfig?
[09:26] <b_ecca> i think you can find some solutions digging up in forums though :)
[09:26] <Lovecats> unable to create monitor-mode VAP..... WARNING: wifi0 appears to not accept Madwifi-NG controls....... FATAL: GetIFFlags: interface wifi0: no such device
[09:26] <cpk1> yeah you dont use wlanconfig with ndiswrapper
[09:26] <cpk1> just iwconfig
[09:26] <cpk1> what does "iwconfig" output?
[09:26] <Lovecats> i personally hate the way we did it cuz, first of all, it seems like a hack and second of all i didnt keep good notes :D
[09:27] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, no it doen't help
[09:27] <Lovecats> u want all the output?
[09:27] <cpk1> pastebin it
[09:27] <Lovecats> k
[09:27] <Lovecats> can u give me the url
[09:27] <Lovecats> for pastebin
[09:27] <Lovecats> pls
[09:27] <|2-bits|> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotwo> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <oboy03> 2bits: bcmwl5.sys is not the right driver?
[09:28] <cpk1> also might be helpful to pastebin lspci so we can see the chipset you have Lovecats
[09:28] <|2-bits|> it should be a .inf file
[09:28] <Lovecats> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58966/
[09:28] <oboy03> ok
[09:28] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, i don't understand . If firefox 3 can take the extensions from firefox 2 then why can't it take plugins
[09:29] <Lovecats> so what is this madwifi tools thing i just downloaded?
[09:29] <murlidhar> ICQnumber, that too without any modifications , the extensions were installed in firefox 3 automatically
[09:29] <b_ecca> you can try to use wlan0 in place of wifi0 in kismet.conf file
[09:29] <Lovecats> ok
[09:29] <Lovecats> lemme do that
[09:29] <Lovecats> one sec pls
[09:30] <cpk1> Lovecats: the tools you use if you are using the madwifi module
[09:30] <josh_> little help?
[09:31] <oboy03> 2-bits: can you check this out for me?   http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/
[09:31] <|2-bits|> that's the guide I followed
[09:31] <Lovecats> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58967/
[09:31] <oboy03> ok
[09:31] <cpk1> Lovecats: despite that error it looks like your card is working, especially if it has an ip address in ifconfig's output
[09:31] <oboy03> so im not lost :)
[09:31] <Lovecats> yeah and i am online :)
[09:31] <b_ecca> yeah thats what i thought too
[09:32] <Lovecats> but i am about to go on travel and i want to be able to find SSIDs wherever i go instead of manually adding them
[09:32] <cpk1> Lovecats: iwlist scan will search for ssids
[09:33] <Lovecats> ah
[09:33] <Lovecats> thats really what i needed :D
[09:33] <cpk1> Lovecats: and then you use iwconfig to set the ap
[09:33] <Alan_M> cpk1, thats awesome, didnt know that one existed, you helped me by helping lovecats ;)
[09:33] <oboy03> 2-bits: should i remove utils too?
[09:34] <Alan_M> thats some insane stats that puppy gives out cpk1
[09:34] <Lovecats> yes iwlist scan | grep ESSID
[09:34] <Lovecats> that one is going into my alias :D
[09:34] <cpk1> Lovecats: it will definitely benefit you to read the man for iwconfig, it is really simple to use, but it is nice to know all the options
[09:34] <Lovecats> yeah i will do that thank you
[09:34] <|2-bits|> oboy03: I just followed the directions and copied and pasted them into the terminal
[09:35] <Lovecats> so is there another way i can setup my wifi that was a bit easeir (i.e. more reproducable) than how we did it before?
[09:35] <cpk1> Lovecats: also find the script that is trying to run wlanconfig and remove it
[09:35] <Gigs> Hi, I just ran updates on 7.10, it had been a few months.  Now audacity is entirely broken.  It takes 2 minutes to start, looping Expression 'ret' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 1034 on the console.  This same message loops several times when I hit most any menu option or attempt to play a sample.  I found some stuff on google about that error but nothing was helpful.
[09:35] <|2-bits|> oboy03: their might be a way to do install it from the package manager, however, you do need to blacklist bcm43xx and add ndiswrapper to the modules to be loaded (all done in this guide)
[09:36] <Lovecats> cpk1, what do you mean "trying to run wlanconfig?"
[09:36] <cpk1> Lovecats: iirc you set up ndiswrapper by getting the windows driver tehn telling ndiswrapper about it and then doing depmod and then making ndiswrapper auto load on boot
[09:36] <Gigs> here's the full log http://pastebin.com/m80b568d
[09:36] <cpk1> Lovecats: that error you are getting is from something trying to use wlanconfig which is the configuration tool if you use madwifi
[09:37] <Lovecats> how do i start madwifi tool?
[09:37] <cpk1> Lovecats: you dont have madwifi, you have ndiswrapper, you use either one or the other
[09:37] <JDStone> ebox breaks my system
[09:37] <JDStone> and locks me out of all network services
[09:37] <apo__> Hi
[09:38] <Lovecats> so if i reinstalled and then used madwifi would it have been easier?
[09:38] <JDStone> ssh, apache, everything
[09:38] <JDStone> daap server
[09:38] <JDStone> oh well
[09:38] <JDStone> not ready for primetime I guess
[09:38] <cpk1> Lovecats: depends, madwifi might not support your chipset, lspci should tell you your wireless chipset
[09:38] <|2-bits|> hey, is there any linux tool that can resize an ntfs partition
[09:38] <apo__> My Ubuntu box is connected to a local network and uses another PC on that network as DHCP server and gateway. DHCP works fine, it gets assigned the IP address I want it to have, but I can't connect to the network anyway
[09:38] <apo__> My notebook also uses DHCP and can connect
[09:38] <apo__> Any ideas?
[09:39] <Lovecats> well i know by researching that my wifi is manufactured by Liteon but it uses a Realtek chipset
[09:39] <b_ecca> qtparted
[09:39] <as> apo__: türk müsün
[09:39] <apo> as: No.
[09:39] <b_ecca> qtparted @ 2bits
[09:39] <|2-bits|> qtparted?
[09:39] <|2-bits|> alright, thank you
[09:39] <Lovecats> wow i just instelled Ubuntu like this afternoon talk about jumpin in the deep end :)
[09:40] <cpk1> Lovecats: the full chipset would be helpful =) just run lspci and pastebin the output
[09:40] <Lovecats> okone sec
[09:40] <b_ecca> bye guys im going onto windows, gots to do some programs
[09:41] <Lovecats> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58968/
[09:42] <tpyoknig> hey i've gota problem if anyone can help, i move a file with the terminal, nautilus shows that its there  on properties but doesnt display the file and also with ls -la in the directory  moved it to, it doesnt show the file
[09:42] <Lovecats> i dont see anything related to wifi on my lspci output
[09:42] <cpk1> Lovecats: hrmm pastebin lshw rather =P
[09:42] <Lovecats> hehe ok
[09:42] <apo> Btw, my other PCs also can't connect to that one.
[09:43] <apo> ping reports "Destination host unavailable".
[09:43] <Lovecats> cpk1 do u only need the network section of lshw?
[09:43] <Bozwell> hia
[09:43] <cpk1> Lovecats: just the info on the wireless
[09:44] <Lovecats> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58969/
[09:45] <Lovecats> so basically ndiswrapper takes a configuration file (like from windows 98,etc) and uses that to get your wifi card to work?
[09:45] <|2-bits|> alright, is their ANOTHER tool that can resize NTFS partitions? qtparted seems kinda sucky
[09:45] <theHive> gparted?
[09:45] <|2-bits|> *there even
[09:45] <pajamian> tpyoknig: if ls doesn't show the file then it's not there.  Can you give details of exactly what you did?
[09:45] <|2-bits|> gparted seems to not have support for that operation :/ otherwise I'd use it
[09:46] <padski> |2-bits|, ntfsresize
[09:46] <cpk1> Lovecats: basically.  I'm trying to figure out why your lshw is so much less helpful than mine... see if it provides any better information if you do it as sudo
[09:46] <jepes> how can i increase the number of virtual desktops on xubuntu ?
[09:46] <Lovecats> cpk1: i did do it as sudo :D
[09:47] <pajamian> !xubuntu | jepes
[09:47] <ubotwo> jepes: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[09:47] <|2-bits|> padski: thanks I'll try that
[09:47] <cpk1> Lovecats: its a pcmcia card? maybe lspcmcia?
[09:47] <Lovecats> nope its not a pcmcia card
[09:47] <Lovecats> cpk1: let me send u the URL to the gateway page describing the components
[09:47] <jepes> its already installed.... im just trying to find the setting to increase the number of "Virtual Desktop" from 2 to 4
[09:48] <Squa7ch> in compiz?
[09:48] <Lovecats> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/OasisC/1015266R/1015266Rcl4.shtml
[09:48] <pajamian> jepes: you need to ask in #xubuntu
[09:48] <Squa7ch> or metacity?
[09:48] <Linc01n> jepes: if using compiz u need to set on ccsm
[09:48] <tpyoknig> pajamian, I use BT to download a file with transmission, well it downloaded it to /home/tpyoknig/download, well I needed it to be on the windows partition, do i mounted the partition with sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5, then i went to load the file in XP and it wasnt there so, i reboot BACK into Ubuntu and load up the termainl and do ls -la /mnt/hda5 the directory isnt there, so then i open nautilus and do a right click propet
[09:48] <tpyoknig> ries and it says the 2.5GB of space used, BUT 3 file on partition totaling 13.8KB, i can send ua screenshot
[09:48] <jepes> pajamian: yikes, sorry....  hehehe
[09:48] <Lovecats> while i am waiting for cpk i have another simple question
[09:48] <Squa7ch> the desktop switcher thats enabled by default, should be able to open a context menu on it, and change the number of desktops through it
[09:49] <tpyoknig> pajamian, continued: properties and it says the 2.5GB of space used, BUT 3 file on partition totaling 13.8KB, i can send ua screenshot
[09:49] <Lovecats> i have like 30 MB of files on my Windows XP machine that i want to copy to my laptop to bring home.. can i just copy them to my Ubu laptop and then back to another Windows machine?
[09:50] <pajamian> tpyoknig: did you mount /mnt/hda5 when you went back into ubuntu to check?
[09:50] <Squa7ch> don't have a usb thumb drive available?
[09:50] <unenough> hi, i have a toshiba a215 but and everything seems to work, except that the cooling fan NEVER goes on
[09:50] <unenough> how can i turn it on?
[09:50] <Lovecats> Squa7ch: not one that is 30 MB :D
[09:50] <Squa7ch> lmao
[09:51] <Squa7ch> I didn't think they made them any smaller than like 128MB, lol
[09:51] <tpyoknig> pajamian, yes i did
[09:51] <Lovecats> so in general files are not transferrable between Linux and PC and vice-versa?
[09:51] <pajamian> tpyoknig: umount it and check, then.
[09:51] <BaD_CrC> does anyone here know if the Sound Blaster X-Fi PCI-Express card works with ubuntu?
[09:51] <Squa7ch> yeah they are
[09:51] <Werdna> trying to rsync all except a certain directory, and this command doesn't seem to exclude /home/backup
[09:52] <Squa7ch> what kind of files are they?
[09:52] <Werdna> rsync -avz /home/ /home/backup/current/home --exclude '/home/backup' --exclude "/home/*/.mozilla/firefox/*/Cache" --exclude "/home/*/.local/share/Trash"
[09:52] <BaD_CrC> i'm thinking about building a nice media center system
[09:52] <Lovecats> binary
[09:52] <Lovecats> ISO, exe, etc
[09:52] <Linc01n> Lovecats: i 'm not really understand your question~ transfer through network?
[09:52] <Squa7ch> yeah I'm a little confused as well
[09:52] <Lovecats> just use my hard drive on my ubu laptop to hold windows files
[09:53] <Lovecats> then drive home with my laptop and put them on my other PC
[09:53] <Lovecats> which is Windows
[09:53] <Squa7ch> yeah should be fine
[09:53] <Squa7ch> I've done it, no problems
[09:53] <pajamian> Lovecats: you can put windows files on a Linux filesystem, but if you wish to access them from windows then you need to have special drivers for windows.
[09:53] <Lovecats> pajaman: well im just gonna FTP them over and back only using the laptop as a transfer mechanism :)
[09:54] <Squa7ch> then you'll be fine
[09:54] <Lovecats> i just need an FTP server on my Windows boxes =X
[09:54] <pajamian> Lovecats: you can do that, but I would recommend samba instead of FTP
[09:54] <Linc01n> Lovecats: it would be fine, using samba is much better i think
[09:54] <tpyoknig> pajamian, nothinng
[09:54] <Lovecats> pajamain: do i need samba installed on all PCs?
[09:54] <cpk1> Lovecats: you can also use ssh to transfer, sftp and scp both use ssh protocal
[09:54] <ompaul> Lovecats, don't do ftp do sftp and search for that and putty - but really this is not a windows channel ;-)
[09:54] <pajamian> tpyoknig: what was the exact command you used to move the file?
[09:54] <Lovecats> ok i will shush then :)
[09:55] <tpyoknig> mv /home/tpyoknig/downloads/leopard /mnt/hda5
[09:55] <pajamian> Lovecats: just ont he linux box, samba connects with ordinary windows networking.
[09:55] <glick> hi
[09:55] <Lovecats> ah ok perfect
[09:55] <pajamian> !samba | Lovecats
[09:55] <ubotwo> Lovecats: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[09:55] <Lovecats> then i need to download samba :)
[09:55] <Squa7ch> no, built into Ubuntu
[09:55] <glick> how come ubuntu gives me so much less time with my battery then windows xp?
[09:55] <Squa7ch> you can access windows shares using samba
[09:56] <glick> in windows i get like 5 and a half hours
[09:56] <Lovecats> really? how do i "activate" samba?
[09:56] <Squa7ch> you don't, you simply open your network and navigate to the shares
[09:56] <glick> on ubuntu it says 2 hours 40 minutes
[09:56] <pajamian> tpyoknig: are you sure that /mnt/hda5 existed as a directory when you issued that command and that a filesystem was mounted to it?
[09:56] <Linc01n> Lovecats: just /etc/init.d/samba start
[09:56] <Linc01n> Lovecats: like apache server
[09:56] <glick> anyone know?
[09:56] <tpyoknig> pajamian,  im 100% sure b/c i moved the .torrent file to it b4 i moved the directory
[09:56] <cpk1> you install samba and start it, samba can also cause many gray hairs
[09:57] <Lovecats> well i just type samba from the command line and it didnt recognize
[09:57] <Peaker_> Why do I get "cant authenticate packages" for normal packages like: "Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe gdesklets-data 0.35.6-1ubuntu1"
[09:58] <pajamian> Lovecats: look under the places menu and click on Network
[09:58] <glick> anyone have any idea?
[09:58] <Peaker_> am I being attacked by a MITM?
[09:58] <Squa7ch> which I already explained
[09:58] <unenough> Peaker_, hi :)
[09:58] <Peaker_> hey unenough
[09:58] <Lovecats> OMG my pc is there!!!
[09:58] <pajamian> tpyoknig: I don't know.  I suspect that the mv operation didn't do what you think it did and the files ended up somewhere else.
[09:58] <Lovecats> wow thanks everyone :)
[09:58] <Squa7ch> Lovecats, I told you that
[09:58] <Lovecats> i have to go to bed now good night and thank you so much for the help!!!!
[09:59] <tpyoknig> pajamian,  in that case where? i've done a updatedb
[09:59] <tpyoknig> and then locate leopard
[09:59] <tpyoknig> only fie found is torrent
[09:59] <xphisherx> hello everyone.. has anyone had any luck with internal memory card readers specifically on laptops.
[09:59] <pajamian> tpyoknig: leopard was a directory, right?
[09:59] <tpyoknig> pajamian,  correct
[09:59] <pajamian> tpyoknig: try locate on one of the files inside the directory.
[10:00] <tpyoknig> i dont remeber one of the files...
[10:00] <pajamian> tpyoknig: I suspect that the directory may have been renamed during the mv.
[10:00] <tpyoknig> pajamian,  : http://geocities.com/twiztid0151986/screenshot-missing.png
[10:00] <conb123> Hi im having trouble with my ubuntu im dual booting windows xp and ubuntu and when i boot ubuntu it freezes up after about 30 seconds. It used to do this with the live cd so i installed using the netboot files. But it still does it when booting from the harddrive. Could it be to do with the fact that i have my hard drive plugged into an ite it8212?
[10:00] <Peaker> Why would packages from normal gutsy universe have key signing problems?
[10:02] <sleepster> conb123: why do you want to dual boot?
[10:02] <conb123> Because i only have 1 hard drive and i like both operating systems
[10:02] <sleepster> dual booting is the thing of the past
[10:02] <sleepster> you should use VMs
[10:02] <sleepster> check out vmware.com
[10:02] <SayaSe> Because Ubuntu can't run everything Windows ... and VMs are system hogs.
[10:03] <mark[oz]> sudo apt-get install vmware-server
[10:03] <SayaSe> And don't support 3D etc.
[10:03] <Starnestommy> sleepster: not everything works in a VM
[10:03] <conb123> yeh i used to but there terribly slow and dontn use my graphics card properly
[10:03] <glick> anyone know why ubuntu cuts my laptop battery life in half?
[10:03] <sleepster> most things work perfect in vmware
[10:03] <pajamian> tpyoknig: not sure.  try to remember at least part of the name of one of the files in the directory.
[10:03] <mark[oz]> glick, have you downloaded the laptop tools?
[10:03] <conb123> i think thats where your wrong sleepster
[10:03] <cpk1> most is not everything
[10:03] <glick> mark[oz], what laptop tools?
[10:03] <sleepster> SayaSe: VMs are not system hogs... vmware is very effecient
[10:04] <conb123> anyway back to my original problem
[10:04] <pajamian> does it matter?  he wants to dual boot, big deal.
[10:04] <sleepster> with dual booting, you end up wasting a lot of resources
[10:04] <Starnestommy> I find xen faster than vmware
[10:04] <SayaSe> sleepster, you're wrong. It's like a second OS on the same hardware. He asked for help to dual boot, not how to use VMs.
[10:04] <sleepster> also, dual booting can cause a lot of problems and potentially destroy both volumes
[10:04] <conb123> ive done it before i have knowledge on this stuff
[10:04] <mark[oz]> glick, sudo apt-get install lap<TAB><TAB> and see some of the stuff you can get
[10:04] <mark[oz]> glick, download and play around with them...
[10:04] <conb123> im not going to break my volumes
[10:05] <sleepster> with dual booting, you're only using 1 OS or the other... you can't have both loaded, so thus you are only using half the amount of resources
[10:05] <sleepster> with VMs, you could save snapshots and restore snapshot
[10:05] <sleepster> in case you break something
[10:05] <pajamian> sleepster: would you please drop it?
[10:05] <sleepster> if you get infected with a virus.. who cares.. .just revert to a snap shot
[10:05] <Peaker> what could cause key signing problems for normal repositories?
[10:05] <conb123> with vms you have to keep half your ram for usage on the operating system your running it on
[10:05] <SayaSe> sleepster, show me how you use Adobe Premiere, Poser et al in VM without massive slowdowns.
[10:05] <sleepster> pajamian: you could drop it if you want
[10:05] <tpyoknig> sleepster, if he wants to freakin dualboot he can dual boot
[10:05] <tpyoknig> quit being a douch bag
[10:06] <conb123> back to my original problem
[10:06] <sleepster> tpyoknig: I am not trying to make him NOT dual boot.. I am just trying to figure out what potential advantages dual booting has over VMs
[10:06] <conb123> Hi im having trouble with my ubuntu im dual booting windows xp and ubuntu and when i boot ubuntu it freezes up after about 30 seconds. It used to do this with the live cd so i installed using the netboot files. But it still does it when booting from the harddrive. Could it be to do with the fact that i have my hard drive plugged into an ite it8212?
[10:06] <sleepster> I haven't ran into someone that has given me a strong enough argument to convince me otherwise
[10:06] <tpyoknig> sleepster, i dial boot
[10:06] <tpyoknig> dual^
[10:06] <tpyoknig> more convient
[10:06] <tpyoknig> less bs with VM
[10:06] <tpyoknig> u try to run crysis on a VM vs XP
[10:06] <sleepster> how is it convenient? I am not arguing.. I just want to know how
[10:06] <tpyoknig> see how far u get ok
[10:07] <pajamian> !ot | sleepster
[10:07] <ubotwo> sleepster: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:07] <sleepster> lol.. you guys are all off topic too since you joined the convo :)
[10:07] <sleepster> I will drop it though
[10:07] <sleepster> for the sake of this channel
[10:08] <conb123> Hi im having trouble with my ubuntu im dual booting windows xp and ubuntu and when i boot ubuntu it freezes up after about 30 seconds. It used to do this with the live cd so i installed using the netboot files. But it still does it when booting from the harddrive. Could it be to do with the fact that i have my hard drive plugged into an ite it8212?
[10:08] <conb123> so what do you think guys
[10:08] <glick> mark[oz], all the things im thinking of installing are installed
[10:08] <kust3mz> Can someone help me with running ubuntu we tryed to load up grub and the it hangs on work_notifysig+0x13/0x25
[10:08] <Starnestommy> conb123: are any error messages showing up?
[10:08] <conb123> none just completely freezes
[10:09] <tpyoknig> pajamian, did u look at my screeenshot
[10:09] <conb123> after about 30 seconds
[10:09] <pajamian> conb123: no need to repeat, we get it, the problem is that it freezes up during the boot process...  Does it show what it's doing when it freezes up
[10:09] <pajamian> tpyoknig: yes, it doesn't tell tell me much.
[10:09] <oboy03> 2-bits: still there?
[10:09] <apo> Gah, how do I find out my uid?
[10:09] <prince_jammys> apo echo $UID
[10:09] <conb123> er no i get about 30 seconds use then bam i cant move the mouse and nothing moves
[10:09] <kust3mz> Can ?
[10:09] <apo> thanks prince_jammys
[10:10] <pajamian> tpyoknig: sorry, I'm out of ideas, my best advice is to try to remember at least part of one of the filenames inside the directory and do a locate on that.
[10:10] <sleepster> conb123: check dmesg
[10:10] <Linc01n> conb123: have u try fsck for root system?
[10:10] <pajamian> conb123: so it actually boots up to the login screen and freezes up in there after 30 sec?
[10:10] <conb123> sorry im a bit of a noob i dont know what you mean when you say fsck and dmesg
[10:10] <conb123> no i can login fine
[10:11] <sleepster> conb123: turen off gnome
[10:11] <pajamian> conb123: so it freezes after you login, then.
[10:11] <kust3mz> Can someone help me with running ubuntu we tryed to load up grub and the it hangs on work_notifysig+0x13/0x25
[10:11] <conb123> it actually logs in to the desktop then freezes
[10:11] <sleepster> gnome + compiz could be doing it
[10:11] <icesword> hi
[10:11] <icesword> guys
[10:11] <pajamian> conb123: if you press ctrl-alt-F1 and wait for up to a few minutes does it give you a console (text) screen login prompt?
[10:11] <karuna_bdc> how to run applications (like games) in ubuntu
[10:11] <mdemocritus> i've got an issue with a widescreen monitor's resolution... i believe it's related to bugs # 182898 and #161816... widescreen video mode appears with a quarter of the screen blakc...
[10:12] <conb123> oh its not just the mouse its everything i know that
[10:12] <mdemocritus> i've tried things on both bug threads, but haven't had any luck
[10:12] <conb123> because i left it on an updating process for ages and it didn't move
[10:12] <icesword> i used ultraiso to record a ubuntu cd this day,it told me it is not a blank cd ,what is wrong,but when i click on the drive icon,it is blank
[10:12] <pajamian> conb123: so it worked before the update but not after?
[10:12] <conb123> no it wasnt the update
[10:12] <mdemocritus> anyone have similar issues? or know how to fix it?
[10:12] <conb123> it didn't work before the update
[10:12] <|2-bits|> oboy03: hey
[10:13] <|2-bits|> oboy03: got it working?
[10:13] <pajamian> conb123: so you tried to update and it locked up during the update?
[10:13] <icesword> ok
[10:13] <icesword> i used ultraiso to record a ubuntu cd this day,it told me it is not a blank cd ,what is wrong,but when i click on the drive icon,it is blank
[10:13] <kust3mz> Can anyone help me with this issue It freezes and says work_notifysig+0x13/0x25
[10:13] <conb123> it locks up whatever i try to do
[10:13] <conb123> it just gives me about 30 seconds usage then it locks up
[10:14] <pajamian> conb123: what if you leave it in the login screen and don't login?  does it lock up eventually in the login screen?
[10:14] <icesword> hey
[10:14] <icesword> guys,any ideas?
[10:14] <conb123> haven't tried but i dont think it would
[10:14] <pajamian> conb123: did you try the ctrl-alt-F1 thing like I asked?
[10:14] <conb123> ill do a quick try but im 99% sure it wont work
[10:15] <|2-bits|> okaay
[10:15] <conb123> anything else to try while im there
[10:15] <pajamian> conb123: ok, just give it a try, also ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:15] <conb123> im in windows at the mo
[10:15] <conb123> alright see you in a minuite bye
[10:15] <pajamian> conb123: either way I can tell you how to at least run the updates without having it lock up
[10:15] <mdemocritus> icesword, i'm assuming you've tried different disks an everything... is there another program you could use
[10:16] <elius> is it possibile to use apt-get to install old versions of software(i need to install php 4.3) ?
[10:16] <mdemocritus> icesword if you have a working linux box, try using k3b, it's really straightforward
[10:17] <icesword> mdemocritus,hmm.thx,but how to know if a cd is blank
[10:17] <oboy03> cant make broadcom wlan work
[10:17] <pajamian> icesword: maybe it's been burned but is blank (ie you burned nothing onto it) and so it can't be used again.
[10:17] <mdemocritus> icesword: check the properties of the disk, if it says nonempty, use a different one
[10:18] <icesword> hmm
[10:18] <mdemocritus> anyone have issues with widescreen monitors not displaying the correct rez?
[10:18] <icesword> pajamian,it said raw filesystem
[10:18] <ere4si> oboy03, was just on the forums and this came up - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=706034
[10:18] <sleepster> mdemocritus: what do you mean?
[10:19] <mdemocritus> sleepster: black bar on the side
[10:19] <sleepster> mdemocritus: is the screen big?
[10:19] <meddelem> greetings
[10:19] <pajamian> icesword: I would recommend trying a different program to burn the disk, and a different disk.  Also make sure the ISO you got isn't corrupted.
[10:19] <kust3mz> Can anyone help me with this issue when i load up in ubuntu recovery It freezes and says work_notifysig+0x13/0x25
[10:19] <oboy03> thanks
[10:19] <icesword> mdemocritus,hmm.that is it,it said it is raw filesystem
[10:19] <sleepster> mdemocritus: how familiar are you with X?
[10:19] <mdemocritus> fairly
[10:19] <meddelem> are there any UMPC users chatting???
[10:19] <mdemocritus> sleepster: 17 inch acer widescreen, max rez 1440x900
[10:20] <oboy03> seems easy especially for laymen like me :)
[10:20] <sleepster> mdemocritus: would you feel comfortable altering the X configuration file?  sometimes when you modify the screen resolution in the little applet, it doesn't modify the X configuration correctly
[10:20] <sleepster> mdemocritus: you may have ot do it manually
[10:20] <sleepster> mdemocritus: it's pretty easy though to modify
[10:20] <meddelem> are there any UMPC users chatting???
[10:20] <mdemocritus> sleepster: for sure i spent a few days getting x to work on a gentoo box a while back
[10:20] <mdemocritus> so i'm kinda familier
[10:21] <meddelem> i have a question about software for UMPCs
[10:21] <sleepster> mdemocritus: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to see if the resolution is set correctly
[10:21] <meddelem> any care to respond?
[10:21] <sleepster> mdemocritus: at the very bottom of that file, you sould see a section called "screen"
[10:21] <mdemocritus> sleepster: the resolution is in xorg.conf, along with 1440x1440, kinda odd
[10:21] <sleepster> mdemocritus: yeah .. sometimes it is weird.. change that to 1440 x 900
[10:22] <kust3mz> Can any one help me?
[10:22] <sleepster> or whatever you want your resolution to be
[10:22] <sleepster> mdemocritus: then reboot your machine
[10:22] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: does it show anything else besides that?
[10:22] <mdemocritus> yeah, the correct resolution is already in there
[10:23] <xphisherx> hello everyone i need help installing a memory card reader .. it's an internal memory card reader..
[10:23] <xphisherx> for my laptop
[10:23] <sleepster> at the very bottom? in the screen section?
[10:23] <sleepster> mdemocritus:
[10:23] <mdemocritus> yeah
[10:23] <burningice> morgen zusammen
[10:23] <sleepster> mdemocritus: under the "Display" subsection.. there is an attribute "virtual"
[10:23] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: it works find up untill it hangs and it says work_notifysig+0x13/0x25 It shows just a bunch more lines of words and stuff
[10:23] <sleepster> mdemocritus: it should have the resolution there
[10:25] <mdemocritus> sleepster: yeah there's a bunch, including the one i want, i've tried deleting one of the superfluous ones, should i remove all of them besides the correct one?
[10:25] <zorro> ciao
[10:25] <zorro> !list
[10:25] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:25] <mdemocritus> sleepster: the wierdest thing is that the monitor's osd says it's getting the correct rez
[10:25] <sleepster> mdemocritus: well you shouldn't have to remove any of them.. just set the "virtual" attribute
[10:26] <kust3mz> starnestommy: and when i try to load it out of recovery mode a red box just sits and blinks and says out of range
[10:26] <mdemocritus> Attribute "virtual"
[10:26] <pajamian> mdemocritus: what do you get with: xrandr -q
[10:26] <mdemocritus> sleepster is that how i should format that
[10:26] <x0rg62> hello
[10:26] <sleepster> mdemocritus: no, it should be "Virtual 1440 900"
[10:26] <mdemocritus> ah
[10:26] <myth-newb> lcd issue. If i type sudo LCDd -f -r 4 it displays "lcdproc server" and it shows the time in standby but that is it how do i get it to echo mythtv for instance
[10:26] <sleepster> mdemocritus: right below your display subsection
[10:27] <VSpike> I've been using amarok for a long time, but I'd like to go pure gnome if possible.  Is there any other media player that is good at organising a very large collection?
[10:27] <help> hey guys know anywhere on freenode I can get help with a motherboard problem?
[10:27] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: any ideal why?
[10:27] <x0rg62> how i can to know what's the command who execute when i press FN-f9 please ???
[10:27] <Starnestommy> help: maybe ##hardware
[10:27] <help> Fans are spinning, light is flashing.
[10:27] <glick> does ubuntu just suck with batteries?
[10:27] <mdemocritus> pajamian minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1440 x 1440
[10:27] <cpk1> psh why would you leave amarok? =P
[10:28] <pajamian> mdemocritus: and the line with the * next to it is 1280x1024?
[10:28] <VSpike> cpk1: was tring to trim down the system :) adding amarok adds a lot of crufy
[10:28] <VSpike> cruft
[10:28] <mdemocritus> pajamian: yeah
[10:28] <x0rg62> anybody know please ?
[10:28] <The_Joe_> The monitor on my laptop is broken, so I'm trying to   use my PC monitor however I can't get it to use fglrx it keeps switching to vesa and everytime I change the screen options they just revert.
[10:28] <cpk1> VSpike: dont know if its still around or what its like if it is but exhaile (or maybe exaile?) was supposed to be a gtk very close to amarok clone
[10:28] <pajamian> mdemocritus: and the res you want is listed on a different line, right?
[10:28] <mdemocritus> yeah
[10:28] <The_Joe_> I got it working now until I change any more options
[10:28] <conb123> ok im back to awnser a few questions no it does not freeze if i leave it on the login screen and its definitley a complete lock up because ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-backspace both dont work
[10:29] <glick> is there an ubuntu laptop channel?
[10:29] <VSpike> glick: tried powertop?
[10:29] <mdemocritus> pajamian:  the line is 1440x900       59.9 +   75.0     59.9
[10:29] <pajamian> mdemocritus: just as a quick test, can you see what happens if you do: xrandr -s 1440x900
[10:29] <conb123> i just tried starting firefox and going to digg and it just froze
[10:29] <pajamian> it should change to your res
[10:29] <glick> VSpike, hmm powertop?
[10:29] <myth-newb> lcd issue. If i type sudo LCDd -f -r 4 it displays "lcdproc server" and it shows the time in standby but that is it how do i get it to echo mythtv for instance
[10:29] <x0rg62> no ?
[10:30] <VSpike> glick: pretty much what is says on the tin.  Shows you processes causing the most power drain
[10:30] <mdemocritus> pajamian: same problem as before
[10:30] <mdemocritus> black bar on left side, the screen isn't covering the monitor
[10:30] <VSpike> glick: some daemon you don't need may be causing frequent wakeups, for example
[10:30] <pajamian> conb123: ok, I can tell you how to complete the updates without it freezing if you want, that may fix the probblem and it may not.
[10:31] <pajamian> mdemocritus: so it changed the res, though?
[10:31] <mdemocritus> yeah
[10:31] <conb123> it might be to do with the fact that i have my hard drive plugged into an ite it8212 slot
[10:31] <x0rg62> how i can to know what's the command who execute when i press FN-f9 please ???
[10:31] <glick> ok thanks
[10:31] <pajamian> mdemocritus: I think your monitor is trying to compensate for being widescreen, I think that will be a setting in your monitor.
[10:31] <mdemocritus> hmmm
[10:31] <kust3mz> Can anyone help me with this issue I have when i load up ubuntu in recovery It freezes and says work_notifysig+0x13/0x25 And when i try to load unbuntu out of recover mode A red box flashs and says out of range any ideals?
[10:32] <myth-newb> Can someone help me with and LCD issue please. If I type LCDd i get lcdproc server on the lcd but that is all i can do
[10:32] <pajamian> x0rg62: it will likely be special code in the bios that is run that has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[10:32] <mdemocritus> pajamian: nope, it's not a ridiculous monitor... no settings for input
[10:32] <VSpike> cpk1: looks nice.. will test it out. Thanks!
[10:32] <mdemocritus> i'll try sleepster's suggestion and get back you y'all
[10:33] <cpk1> VSpike: is it still alive?
[10:33] <pajamian> mdemocritus: what do you get now for: xrandr -q
[10:33] <x0rg62> -_-
[10:33] <hcg> quit
[10:33] <VSpike> cpk1: very much so, it seems http://www.exaile.org/
[10:33] <x0rg62> 'cause i know to stop the pc speaker but after 2 minute the pc speaker re-work pajamian :O
[10:34] <myth-newb> Can someone help me with and LCD issue please. If I type LCDd i get lcdproc server on the lcd but that is all i can do
[10:34] <sleepster> x0rg62: you want to turn off your pc spkear?
[10:34] <x0rg62> yes :/
[10:34] <sleepster> x0rg62: just remove the driver for it..
[10:34] <pajamian> conb123: I don't know, but you can do this if you want for starters ... go to the login screen (don't login) and press ctrl-alt-F1
[10:34] <sleepster> x0rg62: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[10:34] <x0rg62> :O
[10:34] <conb123> yes
[10:34] <conb123> then
[10:34] <sleepster> that will remove the pc speaker kernel module
[10:34] <sleepster> no more beeps
[10:34] <x0rg62> no..
[10:34] <ryan_combs> i need to convert some videos to ogg does anybody have suggestions on what to use
[10:35] <pajamian> conb123: then ...
[10:35] <x0rg62> i never had beep
[10:35] <cpk1> VSpike: cool, not sure if I am glad to see that though since I am a huge amarok fan =)
[10:35] <magnetron> ryan_combs: avidemux or ffmpeg
[10:35] <sleepster> x0rg62: oh so waht do you want then?
[10:35] <magnetron> ryan_combs: ffmpeg2theora
[10:35] <x0rg62> hum
[10:35] <VSpike> cpk1: yeah, amarok is excellent I agree
[10:35] <ryan_combs> magnetron, thanks
[10:35] <pajamian> conb123: login to the text console with your username and password ...
[10:35] <VSpike> cpk1: I'm just trying to experiement and see if I can do without my last few kde apps
[10:35] <pajamian> conb123: and then do...
[10:36] <pajamian> conb123: sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <pajamian> conb123: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:36] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: which version of ubuntu is it? Also, what version is the kernel?
[10:36] <pajamian> conb123: and that will run the updates.
[10:36] <VSpike> cpk1: k3b amarok taskjuggler eric digikam
[10:36] <x0rg62> when a link my helmet for listen music i hear too the sound by the pc speaker
[10:36] <x0rg62> :/
[10:36] <cpk1> VSpike: just switch to kde =P
[10:36] <pajamian> conb123: then when that is all done, do: sudo shutdown -r now
[10:36] <pajamian> conb123: and it will reboot.
[10:37] <conb123> okm but the thing is i dont know if the updates will fix the problem because i have tried to boot an ubuntu 8.04 alpha disc and the same thing happens
[10:37] <x0rg62> sleepster
[10:37] <sleepster> x0rg62: sup
[10:37] <mdemocritus> sleepster, i added the virtual line with the rez, rebooted, and it had the rez at 1152x864
[10:37] <x0rg62> what ?
[10:37] <pajamian> conb123: they may or may not, but it will let us move beyond that step.
[10:37] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: it is 7.10 the kernel came with it so i dont no
[10:37] <mdemocritus> changed it back to 1440x900, still got the blacl bor
[10:37] <mdemocritus> bar*
[10:37] <sleepster> x0rg62: oh.. it's running from your internal speaker  :)  you need to go to the volume control and turn that off
[10:38] <x0rg62> no
[10:38] <x0rg62> :/
[10:38] <pajamian> mdemocritus: bar is on the left and right?
[10:38] <mdemocritus> letf
[10:38] <conb123> ok thanks pajamian ill report back soon
[10:38] <sleepster> mdemocritus: the reason you get the black bar is because the virtual resolution is not set right
[10:38] <pajamian> conb123: good luck
[10:38] <x0rg62> i've ever see that with pajamian yesterday
[10:38] <Almindor> hello
[10:38] <ryan_combs> magnetron, is ffmpeg2theora a command line in the teminal
[10:38] <cpk1> VSpike: try replacing k3b with gnomebake?
[10:38] <baal> hi
[10:38] <Almindor> how can I remotely visually "login"?
[10:38] <cpk1> i think thats the only burning suite for gtk
[10:38] <Almindor> I mean, I have a machine running with gdm on, but noone logged in visually
[10:38] <kubuntu> can someone help me howto reconfigure fstab (i screwed it up a little)
[10:39] <sleepster> mdemocritus: so if you set your virtual resolution to 2880 x 900, you will notice your screen is huge
[10:39] <MaximusBrood> Hello
[10:39] <Almindor> I have ssh access to it, how can I turn on the remote desktop stuff?
[10:39] <mdemocritus> sleepster: rez shown by the monitor's osd is 1440x900
[10:39] <sleepster> mdemocritus: although your screen will still say your resolution is 1440 x 900
[10:39] <x0rg62> sleepster: ERROR: Module pcspkr does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:39] <VSpike> cpk1: i got annoyed with kde eventually, mostly.  Will wait for kde 4.1
[10:39] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: any ideal?
[10:39] <sleepster> x0rg62: type this:  lsmod | grep pc
[10:39] <VSpike> cpk1: I've gone for openbox now, with rox and pypanel and other bits :)
[10:39] <sleepster> x0rg62: what does it show
[10:39] <VSpike> cpk1: just seeing what you can do... it's fun
[10:39] <sleepster> mdemocritus: here let me pm you
[10:39] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: all I know it that it's something at the kernel level.  Does disabling acpi and apic fix it?
[10:40] <The_Joe_> Come on I need this...
[10:40] <sleepster> mdemocritus: here is my xorg.conf
[10:40] <myth-newb> if i type "sudo mythlcdserver -p 13666" i get "could not connect to LCDd: connection refused" any ideas
[10:40] <MaximusBrood> The OverSSH guide describes in detail how to install Ubuntu over SSH (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH). In the paragraph titled 'Installing the Base System' they put the --arch argument to 'i386 dapper'. Isn't this outdated and should I specify gutsy instead?
[10:40] <magnetron> ryan_combs: yes. avidemux is graphical
[10:40] <ryan_combs> magnetron, what is ffmpeg2theora and how do i use it?
[10:40] <pajamian> x0rg62: let me see if I recall the problem accurately ... you can't turn off the pc speaker in your headset, but there is no control in gnome volume manager to turn it off and if you go in to edit the preferences there is no line with a checkbox for it.  Also pressing FN-F9 turns it off temporarily but it turns itself back on after a few minutes, is that right?
[10:40] <x0rg62> sleepster: http://xorg62.pastebin.com/d14f08975
[10:40] <Vhozard> howto autoreconfigure fstab??
[10:40] <ryan_combs> magnetron, oh okey thanks
[10:41] <The_Joe_> Yeah thanks...
[10:41] <x0rg62> yes pajamian
[10:41] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: I am new at linux and i dont really no how to get into acpi and apic can you tell me how?
[10:41] <cpk1> VSpike: hey, to each their own, no clue what eric or taskjuggler is so cant offer anything for those two, and I am drawing a blank for a digikam replacement
[10:41] <ryan_combs> magnetron, nevermind about the ffmpeg2theora thing
[10:41] <sbox> hello all,
[10:41] <pajamian> x0rg62: this is a laptop, right?
[10:41] <x0rg62> yes pajamian
[10:41] <sleepster> x0rg62: you have to get rid of one of those sound modules.. but I am not sure which one... try removing one of them.. and then seeing if it does it.. if it still does does.. remove another
[10:42] <x0rg62> ok
[10:42] <VSpike> cpk1: best I could come up with is picasa.. feh
[10:42] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: hit 'e' at the boot prompt, select the line beginning with "kernel", hit 'e' again, add "noapic noacpi nolapic" to the line, hit 'ESC', then press 'b'
[10:42] <pajamian> x0rg62: I think the laptop is set up to route the pc speaker sound to the sound card in the hardware and you will likely have to use the laptop's custom solution to turn it off.
[10:42] <gonzzor> How do I set the ctime of a Symlink to match the target?
[10:43] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: ok i will try
[10:43] <x0rg62> :(
[10:43] <Vhozard> anyone who knows howto reconfigure fstab?
[10:44] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: Do i do this in recovery mode?
[10:44] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: no, at the boot prompt
[10:44] <Corty> re
[10:44] <pajamian> x0rg62: I would pull out the owner's manual for the laptop and see if it says anything, if you don't have it see if there is a downloadable pdf for it on the laptop manufacturer's website.
[10:45] <cpk1> VSpike: just blowing smoke here, but maybe gphoto or zope?
[10:45] <ompaul> !expert | Vhozard
[10:45] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[10:45] <esox> Hi, I have the following problem : some directories are hidden but their name doesn't start with (.)
[10:45] <x0rg62> okay pajamian
[10:45] <VSpike> cpk1: will look into them.. thanks!
[10:45] <patogen> Hmm I can't unmount a device
[10:45] <mdemocritus> sleepster: i tried another few virtual resolutions, restarted x and even rebooted, nothing changed
[10:45] <patogen> It says it's busy
[10:45] <VSpike> cpk1: liking exaile so far :)
[10:45] <patogen> however fuser -v
[10:45] <VSpike> thx
[10:45] <patogen> gives nothing
[10:45] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: How do i get to boot prompt
[10:45] <sleepster> mdemocritus:  your settings should look like this: http://pastebin.com/m56ee3d53
[10:45] <patogen> What can you do then?
[10:46] <sleepster> mdemocritus: see the "virtual" thing.. change that
[10:46] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: reboot.
[10:46] <mdemocritus> the 1152x864 entry appeared in my resolution lists
[10:46] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: Then do what
[10:46] <brizben> my cd burner has stopped mounting cdr disks can some one please help,
[10:46] <sleepster> mdemocritus: that should be one of the last entries in your xorg.conf
[10:46] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: hit 'ESC' then do what I said earlier
[10:46] <sleepster> mdemocritus: set your virtual resolution to 1440 x 900
[10:46] <x0rg62> i've an other problem... when i close le laptop's screen le light of the screen don't switch off
[10:46] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: oo ok
[10:47] <x0rg62> the lid switch
[10:47] <sleepster> mdemocritus: in your resolution list.. add 1440x900@60
[10:47] <warddr> hello, how much RAM do I need to install with the live cd?
[10:47] <mdemocritus> sleepster: should i put the virtual section above the modes, or does that not matter
[10:47] <x0rg62> in /proc/acpi/buttons/lid/blabla/stat stat stay always on open :/
[10:47] <cpk1> hrmm i just realized after compiling about 10 things that I was untarring them with -xvvf even thoug they were tar.gz's...
[10:47] <sleepster> mdemocritus: doesn't really matter
[10:47] <mdemocritus> damn
[10:48] <sleepster> mdemocritus: make sure that's the only "screen" section in your conf file
[10:48] <sleepster> mdemocritus: and that it is not being masked by another
[10:48] <mdemocritus> yep only one
[10:48] <sleepster> k.. now restart X
[10:48] <x0rg62> anybody know anythings about the lidswitch ?
[10:49] <x0rg62> lid switch*
[10:49] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: when i add noapic noacpi nolapic do i do it just like so?
[10:50] <mdemocritus> sleepster: same thing
[10:50] <sleepster> mdemocritus:  grr..
[10:50] <sleepster> mdemocritus: how weird
[10:50] <warddr> how much RAM do I need to install with the live cd?
[10:50] <sleepster> mdemocritus: I had a similar problem and it was my virtual resolution was F'ed up
[10:50] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: yes
[10:50] <sleepster> mdemocritus: you should ask the others.. I am out of ideas
[10:51] <mdemocritus> sleepster: i dunno if you saw when i first entered, i posted a couple bugs, maybe they can give you ideas
[10:51] <x0rg62> no ?
[10:51] <dn4ia> does anyone know how to get a webcam to look like v_psych 1 outta nexiuz?
[10:51] <mdemocritus> #161816 and #182898
[10:51] <mdemocritus> sleepster: i tried suggestions in the threads to no avail
[10:52] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: It said starting up and went black and now a little red and white box is flashing and saying out of range
[10:52] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: I am useing a 19" LCD could that have any issue with it?
[10:53] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: wait a couple minutes then hit ctrl+alt+f1 if the desktop doesn't show up
[10:54] <mdemocritus> sleepster: is there a way i can just install the apparently fixed driver from hardy alpha 5? ref bottom of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/182898
[10:54] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 182898 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "erratic widescreen intel gma 3000" [Medium,Fix released]
[10:55] <legend2440> warddr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[10:55] <warddr> ty legend2440
[10:56] <overlow_> hello guys. How could i get pressure-sensitivy working on my pen tablet?
[10:56] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: When i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 it did nothing still says out of range
[10:56] <holicowww> how do i use whole-disk encryption under ubuntu (i want to encrypt partition with ubuntu on it)
[10:56] <legend2440> warddr: yw
[10:56] <jubu> hello peepz/.
[10:56] <jubu> can get my gedesklets workin on gusty
[10:56] <jubu> nid help
[10:56] <aLeSD> hi all ... could u suggest me a substitute to amarok ?
[10:56] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: what kind of monitor and graphics card do you have?
[10:57] <jubu> nvidia
[10:57] <jubu> 7300gt
[10:57] <fbn> hi, how can I run a command automatically after resuming from hibernate?
[10:57] <jubu> i have a22" AOC LCD widescreen
[10:57] <Vhozard> aLeSD you can use Juk or Kaffeine or xmms or audicious
[10:57] <juelz> hi, i have a problem with vpnc... i try to connect to my office vpn but i get: vpnc-connect: configuration response rejected:  (ISAKMP_N_ATTRIBUTES_NOT_SUPPORTED)(13); does anyone know whats wrong with that?
[10:57] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: nvidia GEFORCE 5 series And the monitor is a 19" lcd synaps
[10:58] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: nvidia GEFORCE 5 series 256 MB
[10:58] <aLeSD> Vhozard: I'm searching something similar for gtk
[10:59] <cpk1> aLeSD: exaile is basically an amarok clone for gtk
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> i don't care for exaile
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: what do you need it to do?.. manage an ipod or somnething?
[11:00] <cpk1> well, the man asked for an amarok replacement for gtk
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> i know that.
[11:00] <cpk1> personally I dont see why you would ever leave amarok
[11:00] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: Still there?
[11:00] <Vhozard> aLeSD you can use Juk and xmms also in gtk
[11:01] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak: yes
[11:01] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: I'm trying to find out what might be causing that error
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: exaile doesn't *excel* :), at managing an ipod in my opinion
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: have you looked at GTKpod?
[11:01] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: Ok
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> actualy, i think exaile sucks at managing an ipod.
[11:01] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak: I will
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> i never got it to work right.
[11:02] <fbn> how can I run a command automatically after resuming from hibernate?
[11:02] <mdemocritus> sleepster: fixed it... put in 1440x1080 (4:3) for the virtual section, restarted x, now it's at 1280x768 widescreen and looks good... that's a messed up bug
[11:02] <mdemocritus> thanks for the help
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: just personal opinion of course, but GTKPod is probably the best Ipod manager for ubuntu.. I like it. easy to use.
[11:02] <sleepster> mdemocritus: oops sorry I was eating.. :)  I am glad you fixed it though
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: have you tried Banshee?
[11:02] <mdemocritus> lol np
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> and cpk1 i wasn't suggesting yuou gave bad advice, but ther'es a lot of reasons to leave amarok.
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> i personally consider KDE a virus..lol, and avoid installing its libs at all cost.
[11:04] <MaximusBrood> What 'linux-image' would I want to use for a Celeron. Many resources say 686, but appearantly only 386 is available.
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> MaximusBrood: i386
[11:04] <unenough> anybody? why doesn't my cooling fan turn on in my toshiba a215 notebook?
[11:04] <cpk1> the only time i load gtk libs is for firefox occasionally when konq cant cut it =P opposite sides of the world IndyGunFreak heh
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[11:06] <icesword_> hey
[11:06] <icesword_> guys.
[11:06] <icesword_> i have a stupid question,how to know if a cd is blank
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: usually when you insert it, you'll be prompted that you've inserted a blank cd
[11:07] <cpk1> normally you can just look at it
[11:07] <abortd> look at the bottom ring on the cd is the easiest :P
[11:07] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: I couldn't find anything on it
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> icesword: second, when you insert it, right cilck your optical drive, properties, and look at how the disk is made up
[11:07] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: So no ideals? Could it be the monitor?
[11:08] <abortd> ideals?.....
[11:08] <abortd> idea
[11:08] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm.it said filesytem is raw
[11:08] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: all I can think of is that the monitor doesn't recognize the mode
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> raw?
[11:08] <chrome> ok, that was weird, my machine started printing 3 non stop
[11:08] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: But no way to fix it?
[11:08] <icesword_> wait
[11:08] <aLeSD> and something better than f-spot to manage photos ?
[11:09] <pajamian> unenough: it's broken?
[11:09] <unenough> pajamian, no it works in windows
[11:09] <aLeSD> and it will be nice if it supports videos too
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: hmm, not sureon that one, will probably require two separate apps
[11:09] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: if restarting the monitor or changing its settings doesn't work, try another monitor
[11:09] <abortd> am i the only one that notices the ring :/
[11:09] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak: ok thanks ... and only for the photos?
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: eh, i like f-spot..lol
[11:09] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: ok
[11:10] <icesword_> hmm.it said plz insert a cd
[11:10] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak:  :)
[11:10] <cpk1> abortd: no, I look at the bottom all the time
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> search the repositories, i'm sure there's something in there... maybe imgseek, or iphoto
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> but i've never used either of those
[11:10] <abortd> same here all you need is a tiny bit of light
[11:10] <abortd> and you know if its blank or not
[11:11] <icesword_> abortd, hmm,there is a ring in the cd
[11:11] <rainarrow> hello dudes, how to disable the GNOME's hotkey support for volume control?
[11:11] <cpk1> abortd: but sometimes it can be kinda hard if you do an overburn
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: hold on, i'm installing iphoto
[11:11] <unenough> pajamian, ok it works. i gues it works much slower (and therefore quiter) in ubuntu
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> i've not used it to much
[11:11] <abortd> is the circle on the shiny part of the cd icesword_ ?
[11:11] <pajamian> unenough: that's probably a tribute to ubuntu making more efficient use of the CPU
[11:11] <icesword_> abortd, i know it is blank,but when i try to record iso to it,it said the cd is not blank
[11:11] <rainarrow> I mean when I press the volume keys on my laptop, how do I prevent GNOME from changing the master mixer volume?
[11:11] <unenough> pajamian, yeah :) vista kills this computer
[11:12] <abortd> then it is prolly a cd you stopped during the burn process
[11:12] <unenough> but is 44 Celsius a normal temperature for the CPU?
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: if you're that hard up for another CD, gimme your address, i'll mail you a fwe..lol
[11:12] <abortd> and it only burnt pieces of info on it
[11:12] <abortd> cdr's are like 2 cents toss it
[11:12] <abortd> try another
[11:12] <abortd> if it does the same you know u got a problem
[11:12] <rainarrow> hey anyone could hint me on that? To disable GNOME's hotkey volume control
[11:12] <pajamian> unenough: I don't know, I don't think that's too hot.
[11:13] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm,thank you,i just try to work out what is wrong with the one
[11:13] <unenough> that's 113 Fahrenheit
[11:13] <Apple44> Hello all
[11:13] <abortd> meh 113?
[11:13] <abortd> well if its not enough to break solder joints and shit i dont think it would be
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: install Lphoto, its pretty nice.
[11:13] <Apple44> i've just installed an emerald theme.. and its messed up windows manager... all i get after login is the X cursor type thing.. with a wallpaper
[11:13] <pajamian> yeah I know, it's not very hot, pretty cool I would think.
[11:13] <abortd> but i know im not comfortable in that temp
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> but only does photos
[11:13] <icesword_> abortd, thank you,do you know if there is a test software to test if it is blank
[11:14] <Apple44> can i do something from one of the terminals to roll bakc ?
[11:14] <abortd> for linux no
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> Apple44: not really
[11:14] <Apple44> can i disable it?
[11:14] <abortd> all you can do is try to burn something to the cd
[11:14] <abortd> thats the easiest way to do it
[11:14] <Apple44> or remove emerald from starting during my login session
[11:15] <Bruce_> hi
[11:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I lost "bash_completion" some how. It worked for a bit, then after the last few reboots I've found it doesn't work anymore. I went into /etc/bash.bashrc and made sure the portion about bash_complete was uncommented, and it worked for a bit, and now it isn't again .. help? (I use CLI quite a bit, and it's a PAIN w/out it)
[11:15] <icesword_> hmm.thank you,i just used ultraiso,it doesn't work
[11:15] <abortd> your cd is junk then
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: thats what it looks like
[11:15] <unenough> pajamian, how can i control the fan?
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: i've never heard of ultraiso
[11:16] <icesword_> abortd, ok,there is a ring in the middle
[11:16] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hehe,i am on windows
[11:16] <abortd> like on the shiny part?
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: but there's still better tools.
[11:16] <icesword_> abortd, yes
[11:16] <papo> can I use asterisks in /etc/apt/preferences? like 'Package: textlive-*' ?
[11:16] <abortd> then it has information on it
[11:16] <icesword_> ohhh
[11:17] <pajamian> unenough: not sure to be honest, I haven't bothered to mess with that myself.
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: what happens when you insert the CD under Windows?
[11:17] <Vhozard> wtf the world is goin' crazy when a chicken in mexico doesnt play tic-tac-toe
[11:17] <abortd> and cannot be burned on
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> What room is it for Hardy? #ubuntu+1 or something?
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> NineTeen67Comet: yes
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks IndyGunFreak ..
[11:18] <phuzion> How can I resize an NTFS partition in GParted easily?
[11:18] <abortd> gnight all
[11:18] <icesword_> maybe this is just coz when i tried to record an iso to it,and use 8X to write,it said was caching something,and stopped there,and then i clicked
[11:18] <phuzion> Like, I unmount the partition, and it doesn't let me resize it.
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: are you still there?
[11:18] <elius> hello, how can i install php 4.3?
[11:19] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak: hehre
[11:19] <abortd> icesword_, take the cd and throw it in the trash
[11:19] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak: I will stay with f-spot
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> aLeSD: i forgot about digikam, its pretty good, but you'll have to install a ton of KDE libs if you don't have them already
[11:19] <Seveaz> elius: buy a timemachine and go three years back :)
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:19] <icesword_> abortd, no,it isn't ,i cannot used to record an iso anymore,coz 0 area is damaged
[11:19] <elius> if i could get a time machine i'd find other uses for it :)
[11:19] <Bruce_> does anyone know an irc client for xubuntu who can use more than 1 ident ? something like aconnect for mIRC for windows ?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> hey, speaking of, where has Seveas been here lately?
[11:20] <Seveaz> here
[11:20] <aLeSD> IndyGunFreak:   :)
[11:20] <icesword_> abortd, but i can use it to record some data file,right
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> i've not saw him around
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> Seveaz: so why the name change?
[11:20] <Apple44> anyone have any ideas about my emerald problems? :(
[11:20] <KalEl> is the ubuntu community developing a time machine?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> did you accidentally ban yourself?..lol
[11:20] <Seveaz> IndyGunFreak: look at the hostname -- having connection problems
[11:20] <pajamian> bruce: xchat
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> Seveaz: oh ok..lol, gotcha.
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> well i hope it gets worked out
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> so are you like, a mortal under this name, and i can swear and whatnot while youre' here?
[11:21] <Seveaz> IndyGunFreak: me too :)
[11:21] <chi11y> is there some way to make compiz not run on specific apps or alike?
[11:21] <harry> hello all, i have a nvidiagraphics card 7 series. A monitor capable of hdtv, and my monitor only states up to 1024 how can I adjust it to show its full strenth? I did the KDE>SYSTEMSETTINGS>MONITOR and adjusted the settings,  it took in the software after logging out and back in.. but the resilution didn't change  visually, but it did in the software???
[11:21] <Seveaz> IndyGunFreak: only if you want others ops to ban you :)
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:21] <chi11y> windowed games + compiz = extreme lag
[11:21] <Kama> hi
[11:21] <Bruce_> does anyone know an irc client for xubuntu who can use more than 1 ident ? something like aconnect for mIRC for windows ?
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: ?.. WELL DUH
[11:22] <Kama> i am having trouble getting wine to work
[11:22] <KalEl> xchat?
[11:22] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, DUH?
[11:22] <Seveaz> bruce_ pretty much every irc client...
[11:22] <Kama> anyone here who can help?
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: as in duh, of course running games, wine and compiz, is gonna be slow.
[11:22] <Bruce_> u sure seveaz ?
[11:22] <Seveaz> bruce_ yes :)
[11:22] <Kama> is there a program like ghose mouse for ubuntu?
[11:23] <Bruce_> hmm do u have a tutorial for me ?
[11:23] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, yes, I was asking if there is a way to disable compiz, just for game widows, or atleast a number of specific windows
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Bruce_: while i woudl never ever even dream of questioning Seveaz, i do believe he's right on that one.
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: well, thast not really what you asked, you just complained about the lag,
[11:23] <Seveaz> bruce_ install xchat, play with the networks dialog or use /newserver
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> chi11y: go to System/Prefs/Appearance, and on the desktop effects tab, set it to "None" when you play your game
[11:23] <Kama> i installed wine, and now every time i click on it my computer freezes
[11:24] <chi11y> IndyGunFreak, it was what I asked, 3 lines above the comment you read ;)
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> ok, my bad, must have missed it
[11:24] <chi11y> np (:
[11:24] <Bruce_> i'm using xchat atm ....
[11:24] <jayharu> errrrr.....
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: to errrrrrrrrrr is human
[11:25] <Kama> bueller?
[11:25] <jayharu> im planning to buy a toshiba a200-Is1
[11:25] <jayharu> is it ubuntu ready?
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> probably not
[11:25] <jayharu> :(
[11:25] <jayharu> i mean...
[11:25] <phuzion> jayharu, whats the graphics card and processor on it?
[11:25] <mark[oz]> jayharu, I believe all but the sound.. its using a dodgy intel sound chip
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> you can probably get ubuntu running on it quite easily
[11:26] <mark[oz]> but its 2 second fix to get it working
[11:26] <KalEl> hi, after upgrading to hardy heron i can only boot with i386 kernel, not the generic kernel
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> mark[oz]: and even those are easy tog et working usually
[11:26] <Seveaz> !hardy | kalel
[11:26] <ubotwo> kalel: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> acer has the same freakin thing
[11:26] <jayharu> >_>
[11:26] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak, what?
[11:26] <Kama> is it worth it to upgrade to hardy now?
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> mark[oz]: the intelHDA issue
[11:26] <jayharu> it has an ati vcard 256
[11:26] <KalEl> thanks
[11:26] <mark[oz]> wait till release
[11:27] <Kama> buggy?
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: well, thats gonna suck.
[11:27] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak, nope, the patch didn't fix mine
[11:27] <jayharu> :(
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> mark[oz]: really?.. hmm, worked fine for me
[11:27] <mark[oz]> jayharu, the ati stuff is ok.. get a nvidia chipset if possible..
[11:27] <jayharu> any alternates?
[11:27] <mark[oz]> stuff works so much easier
[11:27] <jayharu> well...
[11:27] <Kama> can anyone answer my question about wine?
[11:27] <jayharu> isnt the vcards integrated in those laptops?
[11:27] <palinchron> guys do you know if "backports" is it wrothy to have in my repos?
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: in general, Intel WirelessI(if you plan to use it), Nvidia chipsets are can't miss
[11:28] <mark[oz]> Kama, uninstall it?
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> and should wrk out of the box fine
[11:28] <Kama> did that 3 times now
[11:28] <palinchron> I want some kind o of stability plus new features
[11:28] <Kama> thanks for the obvious tip though
[11:28] <Starnestommy> Kama: you may want to ask in #winehq
[11:28] <KalEl> you mean hardy heron is not released yet?
[11:28] <mark[oz]> bah, I'm going back to rails...
[11:28] <jayharu> TT_TT
[11:28] <KalEl> i'm confused...
[11:28] <jayharu> all laptops here in ksa are ati (almost i think...)
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: perhaps the fact when you downloaded it and i said it was "Alpha", that didn't clue you in
[11:29] <mark[oz]> KalEl, nope, releases in april
[11:29] <KalEl> hmm... my friend came and installed it i don't really know how he did it
[11:29] <mark[oz]> as IndyGunFreak stated in a very ignoramic way, its alpha
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> ignoramic?...lol
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> how is what i said ignoramic
[11:30] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak,  I just made that up :)
[11:30] <mark[oz]> did you like it?
[11:30] <mark[oz]> love you long time, I'm getting back to my ror
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> well, its actually a word, and you horribly misused it, but if you like it, so be it.. :)
[11:31] <KalEl> but if i am not supposed to install it now, i think i'll uninstall hardy heron and go back to gutsy gibbon... thanks
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: so why did you let your friend install hardy on your machine?
[11:31] <jayharu> indy: this are the specs of the toshiba
[11:31] <jayharu> Toshiba Satellite A200-1SI featuring Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.83 GHz), 1 GB DDR II RAM, 160 GB HDD, DVD Super Multi Drive, 15.4" Crystal Brite TFT, 256 MB Dedeicated VRAM, Vista Home Premium, Bluetooth & Wi-Fi, Webcam
[11:31] <KalEl> he said that it's the next version of gutsy gibbon with newer features
[11:31] <mark[oz]> KalEl, but its not stable yet...
[11:31] <greasy_leftwing> lol
[11:31] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: well, he's right, but its still VERY early in its development.. its not even beta yet
[11:32] <mark[oz]> KalEl, is this your production machine? Or just a  shitty old pc?
[11:32] <KalEl> ok thanks that makes sense... i will try to uninstall it
[11:32]  * IndyGunFreak laughs at people who try to uninstall Linux
[11:32] <KalEl> it's my pc... not very old, 2006 october
[11:32] <mark[oz]> go to the ubuntu site and download the latest version... just install over the top :)
[11:32] <mark[oz]> ubuntu is smart enough to know what to do
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: that doesn't really tell me much
[11:33] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak, do you dual boot?
[11:33]  * jayharu looks for more info....
[11:33] <sbox> is a load average of 12 pretty high
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> mark[oz]: on my PC, yes, but only to manage my TOMTOM.. i boot XP probably 2x a month..
[11:33] <mark[oz]> sbox, yes
[11:33] <KalEl> ok thanks... i'm not facing that much problems anyways - things that i most do are working fine :)
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> i only gave windows like 20gigs
[11:33] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak, thought so..
[11:33] <sbox> mark[oz]: cool
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> mark[oz]: lol, what made you think that.
[11:34] <mark[oz]> IndyGunFreak, attitude... I'm thinking how much the scene has changed...
[11:34] <neville_> Does anybody know what the package iscalled that adds m4a support to xineengine for Amarok? This is in Kubuntu 7.04
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> attitude?...lol,i don't have an attitude.
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> never have.
[11:35] <KalEl> sorry if i unintentionally offended somebody
[11:35] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak: someone told me that amilo breaks easily?
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: how would you offend someone?
[11:35] <mark[oz]> KalEl, no worries.. it should be fine.. just make sure you get the updates as they trickle through
[11:35] <jayharu> is this true?
[11:35] <jayharu> coz amilo looks cool...
[11:35] <jayharu> in terms of specs
[11:35] <mad_max02> FSC Amilo ?
[11:36] <jayharu> fujitsu siemens
[11:36] <jayharu> yes
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> only problem with the updates, is they routinely break, and lea eyou with an unstable system, and if you don't know hwo to fix them, you've got a command line system youd on't know how to use.
[11:36] <mad_max02> its a good series
[11:36] <KalEl> IndyGunFreak, not sure if someone was referring to my attitude... but i must let you guys know i very much appreciate what you are doing here - helping people like me who wouldn't be anywhere otherwise
[11:36] <mad_max02> I've got 2 Amilos
[11:36] <mad_max02> both work fine
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: i think he's drunk,i woudln't worry about it.
[11:36] <jayharu> i need toknow if its hardy?
[11:36] <jayharu> tough
[11:36] <KalEl> and i thank you all for that - so sorry if i unintentionally offended someone
[11:37] <mad_max02> jayharu, its good build. not perfect as toshiba but firm and comfort.
[11:37] <jayharu> and wont be an expensive paperweight
[11:37] <mark[oz]> KalEl, nah dude, not your attitude...
[11:37]  * IndyGunFreak loves expensive paperweights
[11:37] <jayharu> :((
[11:37] <mad_max02> jayharu, naah :D
[11:37] <holoduke> my suspend mode is not working well...  where can i find the logfiles to debug??
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: apparently he was referrign to mine, which id on't know how, but as you can see, i'm not really stressing about it.
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: i bought a used compaq that works awesome w/ debian... i got it for like $100.
[11:38] <jussi01> !test
[11:38] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[11:38] <jayharu> im in the ksa though...
[11:38] <jayharu> not in the us
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: thats what i was just noticing..
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: well.. i can't find any real info on that laptop.
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: now this is strictly going off the ones available here in America.
[11:40] <encrypt3d> does anyone have any suggestions for a reboot problem in Gutsy.  I press the reboot button, and the screen hangs at the Ubuntu splash screen.
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: but i'm reading a pDF spec sheet, and it says they have Intel wireless.
[11:40] <jayharu> this is the spec for the amilo...
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> which is good.. cuz they usually work right out of te box
[11:40] <jayharu> processor type 	 Intel Core 2 Duo T7250
[11:40] <jayharu> processor speed 	 2.00 GHz
[11:40] <jayharu> L2 cache size 	 2 MB
[11:40] <jayharu> system memory 	 2 GB DDR2 RAM
[11:40] <jayharu> hard drive capacity 	 250 GB
[11:40] <jayharu> drives included 	 DVD Super Multi Double Layer
[11:41] <FloodBot1> jayharu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> sighs..
[11:41] <icesword_> hmmm
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> floodbot is evil!
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: that wasn't very bright
[11:42] <jayharu> sorry
[11:42] <jayharu> >_>
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> the color black is brighter than what you did
[11:42] <icesword_> l2 cache 2m,hmmm
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: what did you say the amilo model # was?
[11:42] <jayharu> Fujitsu Siemens AMILO XI 2428 Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 2.00 GHz
[11:43] <Bruce_> re
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: hang on looking
[11:45] <Bruce_> how can i set another port that the standart port for any irc server @ xchat ? :/
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: is this it...  http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Fujitsu-Siemens-Amilo-Xi2428-notebook.7329.0.html
[11:46] <zeger-jan> Bruce_ see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[11:46] <jayharu> checkin...
[11:46] <mirak> hello
[11:46] <pajamian> Bruce_: irc.example.com/1234
[11:46] <mirak> is there  a way to remove package marked as rc when you do a dpkg -l ?
[11:46] <Bruce_> i will read it ...
[11:47] <Starnestommy> Bruce_: put it in as irc.server.net/port
[11:47] <Bruce_> with the slash ?
[11:47] <Starnestommy> yes
[11:48] <Bruce_> thanks
[11:48] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak: the processor speed was different but i think its the same
[11:48] <Bruce_> lets have a try ....
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: ok.., well, looking at that... and agian, everything is relative to what i'm reading there.
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: but Ubuntu *should* be pretty easy to set up on it, it has intel wireless, and nvidia graphics.
[11:48] <jayharu> i see.
[11:48] <jayharu> thanks
[11:49] <steel_lady> is there some program to split audio files???
[11:49] <jayharu> errrr
[11:49] <jayharu> i remembered
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:49] <jayharu> hows the sound in amilo?
[11:49] <pajamian> steel_lady: split how?
[11:49] <magnetron> steel_lady: audacity
[11:49] <moralbehav> i have got a server, i read the useridr in /home/unixuser/public_html , in the /home i have got chmod 700 * ,the owner (only) can edit, read, execute you files
[11:49] <steel_lady> I want to cut out a refrain of one mp3 and have it as a separate file
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: it says the sound is a RealTek... so i'm *guessing* it probably works.
[11:50] <pajamian> steel_lady: audacity
[11:51] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: I put a diffrent monitor on and it froze up and did not say anything?
[11:51] <steel_lady> it says it can not install it because it depends on libraries that are not installable
[11:52] <KalEl> is there anywhere the messages during the booting process are stored automatically?
[11:52] <Starnestommy> KalEl: dmesg
[11:52] <greasy_leftwing> steel_lady: try wavbreaker maybe?
[11:52] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: I'm not sure exactly what is causing it
[11:52] <KalEl> wow thanks
[11:53] <greasy_leftwing> never used it myself tho
[11:54] <steel_lady> greasy, I am not finding it on synaptic
[11:54] <pajamian> steel_lady: what libraries does it list?
[11:54] <CJari> hey
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what are you trying to install?
[11:55] <Bruce_> hmmm it didn't work correctly -.-
[11:55] <greasy_leftwing> she's after a program to split an audio file up
[11:55] <greasy_leftwing> it in my synaptic
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, and wy doesn't audacity work?
[11:56] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: she can't install it
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> uninstallable dependencies apparently
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: that doesn't make any sense
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: do you have synaptic open?
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> yup
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> got it right here
[11:56] <steel_lady> pajamian, IndyGunFreak,  http://pastebin.com/m6f19e9ff
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> hang on let me looka t that
[11:57] <greasy_leftwing> yer, I'm installing ti right now
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[11:57] <greasy_leftwing> works fine
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> i knew something wasn't right
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: how were you tryign to install it?..
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> went into synaptic gui
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> did search for audacity
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> wait, who needs help, greasy, or steel_lady ?
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> selected it and marked apply
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: right, that should work.
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> aye
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> seems fine to me
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you need help with this?.. i think i was helping the wrong person
[11:58] <steel_lady> I need help Indy
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> ok, sorry
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> i've not had my morning tea yet...lol
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: open synaptic
[11:59] <steel_lady> indy did you see the pastebin?
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[11:59] <steel_lady> I am in synaptic
[11:59] <pajamian> steel_lady: looks like you have your repositories messed up or something
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: settings/repositories..
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: on the first tab, is everything checked?
[12:00] <steel_lady> yes it is indy
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[12:00] <CJari> I installed proftpd after having succesfully installed apache server but I'm yet unable to connect to the server via ftp, is there some specific configuration I need to do?
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: do a search for audacity
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> in synaptic
[12:00] <steel_lady> ok indy I did
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> right click, mark for install, then apply
[12:01] <steel_lady> ok
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> does it look like its installing, or did you get errors again?
[12:01] <steel_lady> jumps out a window 'could not mark all packages for installation'
[12:02] <mr_magoo> hello
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, very strange, i just installed it, no problem
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: you're using gutsy, right?
[12:02] <pajamian> steel_lady: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:02] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak:can the ff software run on ubuntu with wine?
[12:02] <jayharu> manga studio ex 3
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: ff software?.. whats that.
[12:02] <steel_lady> I have edgy
[12:02] <jayharu> ]comicworks
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, maybe that is the issue.
[12:02] <mr_magoo> anyone know how to get cinerella ?
[12:02] <jayharu> following...
[12:02] <steel_lady> I can nbot update edgy because of the lack of the partition space
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: that is probably your issue
[12:03] <bazhang> mr_magoo: cinelerra? just iinstall it
[12:03] <greasy_leftwing> thats whjat I was thinking
[12:03] <greasy_leftwing> might be worth updating
[12:03] <steel_lady> Indy, how and why? there is no version for edgy?
[12:03] <mr_magoo> im new to it how do i apt get it
[12:03] <Hobbsee> !ping
[12:03] <ubotwo> pong
[12:03] <fredmv> can I ask a _serious_ newb question?
[12:03] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install cinelerra mr_magoo
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: no, there's a version for edgy i'm sure, but i think the issue is, whatever repos its trying to access to get those files ar eclosed
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> !pm | jayharu
[12:04] <ubotwo> jayharu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[12:04] <jayharu> sorry....
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·17:. «jayharu» as i was sayin...
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·27:. «jayharu» mangastudioex 3
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·32:. «jayharu» comicworks
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·43:. «jayharu» opencanvas
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·53:. «jayharu» illustrator
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·57:. «jayharu» photoshop
[12:04] <FloodBot1> jayharu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> now thats gotta be a record
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> 2x, in less than 20min...lol
[12:04] <jayharu> TT_TT
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> you aren't very bright ar eyou?
[12:04] <steel_lady> Indy, so I have to add repos, no?
[12:04] <jayharu> im a slow typist....
[12:05] <muszek> hi... my network manager pretty much always connect to a wrong, unprotected network after I boot up... is there any way to make him connect to a specific network(s) only or at least to blacklist some other networks?
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: not really sure to be truthful, if you'll find one that works
[12:05] <jayharu> i am but i do use copy paste too often....
[12:05] <fredmv> if I change my uname via Sys->Admin->Usrs/Groups, how can I 'update' my /home/<usr> dir to reflect that?  is it as simple as renaming the dir?
[12:05] <muszek> fredmv: read the man page for adduser
[12:05]  * IndyGunFreak is reminded of that line from Tommy Boy, David Spade, By any chance did you eat pain chips as a kid.. Chris Farley..(laughs), "Why?"
[12:05] <mr_magoo> nah that doesnt work
[12:06] <fredmv> thanks muszek;  I figured that'd be wrong
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak,   You mean 'paint' chips? :)
[12:06] <mr_magoo> dont think cinerella is in the repository
[12:06] <muszek> fredmv: sorry, usermod (not adduser)
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> eh, i was laughing as i typed..sorry..lol
[12:06] <fredmv> No prob..
[12:06] <bazhang> mr_magoo: you got the name wrong
 Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:06] <^u^> !info cinerella
[12:07] <ubotwo> Package cinerella does not exist in gutsy
[12:07] <bazhang> !info cinelerra
[12:07] <ubotwo> Package cinelerra does not exist in gutsy
[12:07] <legend2440> steel_lady:  try sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude install audacity
[12:07] <icesword_> bazhang, hmm
[12:07] <tuntun> Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: thats gonna be a pain in the ass to fix... have you considered backing up important files, and doing a clean install of Gutsy?
[12:07] <mr_magoo> E: Couldn't find package cinerella  thats what i seem to get
[12:08] <bazhang> http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php mr_magoo
[12:08] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596160 mr_magoo
[12:08] <mark[oz]> mr_magoo, try add repositories
[12:08] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html mr_magoo
[12:09] <pajamian> goodnight everyone
[12:09] <icesword_> k
[12:09] <steel_lady> indy, no I didn't considered it because I have some provisional install of a program that is 13 years old and that I need for my doctorate tesis. the person whyo did it for me is dead and I can not repeat it
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: provisional install?...
[12:10] <tuntun> Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:10] <bazhang> tuntun join the ubuntu-users mailing list and suggest it
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what program is it that is provisional?.. surely by now its final.
[12:11] <bazhang> !brainstorm | tuntun add you idea here
[12:11] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:11] <steel_lady> legend 2440 E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:11]  * IndyGunFreak thinks ubotwo is a bit more edgy than ubotu
[12:11] <amikrop> Greetings. How can I minimize Wesnoth?
[12:11] <bazhang> tuntun add your idea at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[12:12] <mr_magoo> cheers guys it seems to be installing now
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> the best idea i heard today, was an idea for Tabbed Nautilus
[12:12] <legend2440> steel_lady: you can download it directly from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/i386/audacity/download
[12:12] <bazhang> amikrop: in hardy or gutsy?
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> legend2440: but she has a ton of unresolved dependencies, i don't think its gonna work, unless that .deb has all of those to
[12:13] <legend2440> steel_lady: but it will probably have a dependency problem
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:13] <legend2440> IndyGunFreak:  yes
[12:13] <steel_lady> Indy it is wip package, I dubt you heard of it
[12:13] <steel_lady> legend, it didn't finish
[12:13] <amikrop> bazhang: gutsy
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> figured.
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what is the name of the program?
[12:14] <NitroX962> hello
[12:14] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, where do you live
[12:15] <steel_lady> WIP indt
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol, thats the second time today i've been asked that.. "Indy"GunFreak...lol, Indpls, INdiana
[12:15] <bazhang> amikrop: are you using compiz?
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: stil no joy i assume?
[12:16] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, pardon,i don't understand your question
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: nothing, it was a bad joke on my part, I live in Indpls, Indiana
[12:16] <amikrop> bazhang: yes
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, Earth
[12:16] <corza> how stable is 8.04a6 currently?
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> corza: probably even less stable than Windows
[12:16] <bazhang> amikrop: try disabling it and see if that works
[12:17] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm.earth
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:17] <bazhang> corza that would be in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[12:17] <corza> o ic :)
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: where are you?
[12:18] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm,China
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what is that wip program, what does it do?
[12:18] <amikrop> bazhang: What works?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> China?..
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> damn
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't think they let you on the internet
[12:18] <corza> how about 64-bit these days, its been a while since i've run ubuntu
[12:18] <bazhang> amikrop what game are you trying to run?
[12:18] <amikrop> bazhang: I want to know how to minimize Wesnoth.
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> i figured you were here int he states.
[12:19] <bazhang> amikrop: turn off and compiz and see if that works
[12:19] <bazhang> -and
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> !info wip | steel_lady does this look familiar?
[12:19] <amikrop> bazhang: Turning compiz off minimizes Wesnoth?!
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> well crap, ubotu is sleepin again
[12:19] <bazhang> amikrop: step one: turn off compiz
[12:19] <steel_lady> !info wip
[12:20] <amikrop> bazhang: ok. step 2?
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: ubotu is sleeping
[12:20] <karuna_bdc> how do you complie a program from source?
[12:20] <corza> are there a lot of compatible apps these days with the amd64 distro?
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> and ubotwo is clueless, as always
[12:20] <bazhang> amikrop: step two try to minimize wesnoth
[12:20] <amikrop> bazhang: how?
[12:20] <corza> or is it still not worth switching.
[12:20] <amikrop> That's what I want to know.
[12:20] <bazhang> amikrop: try to right click title bar
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58985/    thats the description of the version in the gutsy repos
[12:21] <steel_lady> Indy, wip is an old software package that plots graphs and other things over my astronomy images in .fits format
[12:21] <amikrop> bazhang: There is no title bar. The game is fullscreen.
[12:21] <karuna_bdc> can anyone tell me how to compile a linux program from source?
[12:22] <bazhang> amikrop: it can be run in windowed mode however check the settings
[12:22] <chrislees> karuna_bdc: What do the instructions of the program say?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> karuna_bdc,  depends on the source. the normal '3 step' process is documented everywhere, --> ./configure, make, sudo make install.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> the trick with source - is getting all the needed parts installed to compile the source. :)
[12:23] <^u^> and there is 20000+ progs in synaptic
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: unless your chuck norris
[12:23] <legend2440> steel_lady:  if you open synaptic and do search for audio editors maybe one of the other apps will do what you want
[12:23] <karuna_bdc> Dr_Willis: oh ok ill go read up on it
[12:23] <amikrop> bazhang: ok. thanks.
[12:23] <corza> AMD64 version of ubuntu: is it worth it these days?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak,  we all know chuck dosent need a computer. :) he just punches the internet.
[12:24] <greasy_leftwing> corza: what do you mean?
[12:24] <steel_lady> legend, in fact the problem is that I have the same problem in many situations and I am angry with linux for this
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: lol
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you read that pastebin i sent you?
[12:24] <bazhang> corza that is a matter of opinion; some feel it to be so others not
[12:24] <corza> greasy_leftwing: well the last time i tried it, was a few years ago, and it was basically useless back then because there was barely any apps supporting it.
[12:24] <greasy_leftwing> corza: seems fine to me
[12:25] <chrislees> Sorry Karuna, my wireless flaked out on me
[12:27] <Salvatrucha> hallo
[12:27] <ohp> ugh
[12:27] <corza> greasy_leftwing: never run into any troubles i'm guessing then?
[12:27] <ohp> what alternative is there to AMD/Inel
[12:27] <ohp> via processors?
[12:27] <corza> yeah via, but they're not very mainstream
[12:27] <greasy_leftwing> corza: theres bugs, obviously
[12:27] <ThaRabbit> sparc? powerpc?
[12:27] <chrislees> ohp: Via is a bit of a "low-power embedded" niche
[12:27] <corza> isn't powerpc dead?
[12:27] <ohp> yeah
[12:28] <greasy_leftwing> havent really gone full on to make it do anything useful yet tho
[12:28] <corza> lol then Cyrix remember them haha
[12:28] <ohp> and sparc pretty much
[12:28] <bazhang> no there are gutsy builds for both
[12:28] <chrislees> corza: PowerPC isn't dead, it's used in all three main gaming platforms ATM :-)
[12:28] <ohp> I just had another p4 burn out
[12:28] <sjoerd> corza: powerpc is very much alive, just not in the pc consumer market
[12:28] <sjoerd> ditto for sparc
[12:28] <ohp> I'm never buying intel or amd again
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you read that pastebin?
[12:28] <ohp> absolutely ridiculous
[12:28] <ThaRabbit> there's no real desktop alternative though :)
[12:28] <corza> chrislees: true, i forgot about that.
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> ohp: so what are you gonna buy?.. a mouse in a wheel?
[12:28] <ohp> yeah I don't care
[12:28] <ThaRabbit> though you can slap linux on a PS3 and go wild :P
[12:28] <corza> lol
[12:28] <ohp> in my view there is no desktop mainstream
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot
[12:28] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:28] <chrislees> ohp: Intel has come a long way since the P4, and I think you're limited for x86-compatible processors
[12:28] <archman> bazhang, how to manually setup ip address here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58987/
[12:28] <ohp> intel and amd are jokes
[12:28] <greasy_leftwing> :]
[12:29] <corza> i'm not sure that they're jokes
[12:29] <corza> considering the power 99% of the desktop computers in this world
[12:29] <ohp> "moore's law" still exists only if you count processors that burn out in 6 mos
[12:29] <ohp> yeah
[12:29] <ohp> 99% of my computers have up and died
[12:29] <bazhang> corza and ohp #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:29] <ohp> nothing strange or anything about them like wacky cooling
[12:30] <sofiankr1> I want to prevent Oracle XE from starting at bootup, how can I do that?
[12:31] <steel_lady> yes indy, I know what is wip because I am using it
[12:31] <sofiankr1> it is not there in Sessions
[12:31] <bazhang> archman that seems self evident; have you read this thread:--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: no, that wasn't my question, there is a version of Wip int he gutsy repos(so it should be esay to instlal is my point), and that pastebin i sent you, is how its described, just making sure i twas the same program..
[12:32] <^u^> sofiankr1, is it listed in /etc/rc2.d?
[12:32] <sofiankr1> ^u^: I'll check...
[12:33] <archman> bazhang: please see if this should work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58989/
[12:33] <icesword> just change S* to s*
[12:33] <sofiankr1> ^u^: yes it is
[12:34] <^u^> sofiankr1, If it starts with an S then you need to rename it to start with a K
[12:34] <icesword> sofiankr1, S means start that service
[12:34] <bazhang> archman that is might odd syntax; you got it working like that?
[12:35] <archman> bazhang: no, so i'm asking if something's wrong
[12:35] <icesword> ^u^, why K,what about k
[12:35] <archman> bazhang: how to setup prompt?
[12:35] <icesword> ^u^, why K,what about s
[12:35] <^u^> sofiankr1, S for start - K for Kill or not start
[12:35] <bazhang> archman I am guessing you did not read that link, correct?
[12:35] <steel_lady> indy, it is too much risk for me. I have a work day from 8 in the morning till almost 10 in the evening and the only free day is sunday. I don't wont to ruin my sunday and end up without al that I have. and also I neet to have my sunday for more that struggling with linux the whole day. this is the bad thing of linux. when I am finally at home 1 day of the week, I need to use my private computer for my thesis and my private corresp
[12:35] <steel_lady> ondence and not to spend my days without rest to become an informatic!
[12:35] <v3ctor> you should not change it to 's' or 'k', you should change it to 'X'
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: it holds on dhclient
[12:36] <v3ctor> you don't want it to start or kill...you just don't want it to work
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: sorry; i've been a lazy ass....
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: sry
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, ?
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, why X
[12:36] <iR`> hello
[12:36] <v3ctor> so you can easily find it if you want to change it back
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, why  delete that symbol link
[12:37] <icesword> ohhh
[12:37] <icesword> see
[12:37] <v3ctor> icesword: that would be the best solution if he never needds it again ;)
[12:37] <bazhang> archman that is a very clear guide--getting wireless to work requires a bit of reading/prep beforehand;I'll be happy to answer questions, but you should help me help you and inform yourself a bit first
[12:37] <mustafa> Hi guys.... I just installed kubuntu on my Asus F3E notebook. but the blue keys don't work probably... can anybody help me
[12:37] <archman> bazhang, true !
[12:37] <archman> bazhang ;-)
[12:38] <sofiankr1> ^u^: thank you very much!
[12:38] <bazhang> mustafa: the blue keys are the fn keys or what
[12:38] <sofiankr1> icesword: thanks!
[12:38] <iR`> I have a question regarding sound... i have an integrated realtek sound card that allows me to choose what kind of a divice is plugged into the jack (for example i can plug a speakear into the microphone jack and assign that jack audio output) ... in ubuntu 7.10, i can only get 2.1 sound ... any way to assign output to a microphone jack on a chipset that supports it?
[12:38] <icesword> k
[12:38] <bazhang> be back in second
[12:38] <mustafa> yes.. they are the fn keys
[12:39] <icesword> what is blue key
[12:40] <mustafa> also the kmix doesn't work probably
[12:41] <icesword> no sound?
[12:41] <gaE4> hi, i am new to ubuntu, and my question is, whats the difference at synaptic package manager between removal and complete removal
[12:42] <icesword> hmm
[12:42] <Starnestommy> gaE4: complete removal removes all the files installed by it, including old config files.  A regular removal just removes the programs
[12:42] <DRebellion> gaE4, normal removal will keep configs and other such files in case you reinstall later
[12:42] <gaE4> ah, ty
[12:44] <archman> bazhang: where to ask questions about networking?
[12:44] <iR`> icesword: i dont get sound from rear speakers and center speaker
[12:44] <iR`> this is weird because the subwoofer and center seakear are on the same jack
[12:45] <iR`> but that might be just a mixer problem
[12:45] <iR`> however, i dont know what to do about the "mic" in labeled jack which has jack sensing and i have the rear speakers plugged into it
[12:45] <iR`> dont hear them.
[12:45] <icesword> iR`, try to turn that up ,as high as possible
[12:45] <astheo> hi, anyone here using wget download manager? how do i make wget autodetect all files i will download?
[12:46] <icesword> ! download tools
[12:46] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:46] <icesword> ohhh
[12:46] <icesword> you bot
[12:46] <iR`> icesword: i did try that
[12:46] <Starnestommy> you had an extra space
[12:46] <^u^> icesword, no space after !
[12:47] <iR`> i went into alsa mixer
[12:47] <iR`> and pumped everything up, no change for the speakers
[12:47] <icesword> hmm
[12:47] <iR`> they werent muted either
[12:47] <icesword> ok
[12:47] <iR`> but
[12:47] <iR`> at the far most of the alsa mixer
[12:47] <ThaRabbit> !download tools
[12:47] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:47] <icesword> hoho
[12:47] <iR`> i have 2 tabs without the volume sliders
[12:47] <iR`> and i can toggle them
[12:47] <iR`> mic /line-in and another thing (spdif maybe)
[12:47] <iR`> however, even togling them doesnt make any difference
[12:48] <kreker> hi)
[12:48] <icesword> iR`, don't worry,did see hardwareinfo,is your soundcard been recognized
[12:49] <microwaver> Hello people.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> People? Thers people here? Egads!
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:50] <icesword> microwaver, hmm,i like
[12:50] <microwaver> haha,
[12:50] <microwaver> You perhaps already see it comming, a total ubuntu noob who's searching for help using xchat
[12:50] <icesword> mm
[12:51] <bazhang> archman right here
[12:51] <iR`> icesword: yes, it is reconized
[12:51] <iR`> recognized*
[12:51] <icesword> hmmm
[12:51] <iR`> ALC883 on an nvidia motherboard
[12:51] <microwaver> Someone who want to help a linex newbie?
[12:51] <fredmv> Alright, I have a _dumb_ problem..
[12:51] <iR`> and it works, i do hear sound from front left and right and subwoofer
[12:52] <iR`> just need to get center and rear left and rear right working
[12:52] <iR`> however
[12:52] <icesword> iR`, you got sound,ok
[12:52] <iR`> they are plugged into what would otherwise be microphone jack
[12:52] <bazhang> iR`: easy on the enter key please
[12:52] <fredmv> I modified my username via System->Admin->Users/Groups, but I didn't update my home dir.  Now when logging in, everything is broke because it's looking in the old /home dir...
[12:52] <microwaver> Got two problems actually :-)
[12:52] <Dylan69> hi
[12:52] <iR`> but with jack allocation (windows software driver) they have speakers set to it
[12:52] <Dylan69> !list
[12:52] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:52] <fredmv> So now, as suggested, I'm trying to use usermod, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.
[12:53] <fredmv> I ran: # usermod -d /home/fredmv fredmv which should be the proper command.   The dir is still 'fmv'.
[12:53] <bazhang> fredmv what are you trying to accomplish
[12:53] <icesword> ubotu, who is ubotwo
[12:53] <fredmv> bazhang, basically just changing my username and accordingly changing my home dir.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I dont recall ever useing usermod :)
[12:53] <icesword> hmm
[12:54] <v3ctor> fredmv: you will need to rename the dir
[12:54] <icesword> ! ubotwo
[12:54] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:54] <bazhang> heh
[12:54] <fredmv> Dr_Willis, yeah, I should've just done it via GUI, but I didn't, and now I can't even get in.
[12:54] <met_> what am I doing here? :(
[12:54] <fredmv> v3ctor, can't do that.
[12:54] <v3ctor> yes you can
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> fredmv,  Hmm. ive never even noticed that command befor. :)
[12:54] <keiserr> hi, is there a ubuntu CD or DVD prepacked with xen and apache, mysql, php, vsftpd and sshd?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> heh - thers some warnings at the end of the 'usermod' man page.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis>  usermod will not allow you to change the name of a user who is logged in.
[12:55] <icesword> hooo,i cannot get the trigger
[12:55] <microwaver> Is there someone who can help me? I have a problem mounting my external HDD. USB stick works fine and all, but he gives problems with my external hdd
[12:55] <jubu> help with gdesklets here///
[12:55] <jubu> plz...
[12:55] <bazhang> so chroot in from a livecd and do it that way?
[12:55] <v3ctor> fredmv: you can't log in at all? this is the only account on the system?
[12:55] <fredmv> Dr_Willis, yeah, I'm doing this all at root.
[12:55] <jubu> HELP WITH GDESKLETS....
[12:55] <icesword> ....
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> jubu,  you could state an actual question concerning the topic..
[12:56] <icesword> ! caps
[12:56] <bazhang> caps jubu
[12:56] <^u^> jubu, what's up?
[12:56] <ubotwo> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:56] <microwaver> just pm me if you think you can help me.
[12:56] <jubu> i can't run gdesklets...
[12:56] <fredmv> v3ctor, I'm logged in as root trying to make these changes.   If I try editing the /home dir as you suggest, it gives me an error.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  summarize the problem. :)
[12:56] <bazhang> jubu so we guessed ;]
[12:56] <jubu> i have already installed it..
[12:56] <^u^> jubu, what did you d/load for it?
[12:57] <geert_> Dear ubuntu people, when I click xsane to scan an image, it says "detecting scanners", then the window vanishes. xsane as a progress is still active and lsusb shows the name of my scanner. I'm running ubuntu gutsy. What could I do to fix this?
[12:57] <v3ctor> fredmv: what command are you trying to run? you should be able to run: mv /home/fmv /home/fredmv
[12:57] <fredmv> v3ctor, so if I log in, it's trying to access stuff from /home/<old usr> and GNOME crashes.
[12:57] <jubu> for the desklets like system monitoring. hdd space..
[12:57] <^u^> jubu, there's two parts - gdesklets and data
[12:57] <jubu> ect//
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> fredmv,  you could link /home/OLDDIR to point at the /home/newdir :)
[12:57] <fredmv> v3ctor, I'm working with usermod.   Perhaps I could do something like adduser, make a new account, and then do it via GUI (newb solution)
[12:58] <^u^> jubu, if you type   gdesklets    in a terminal what happens?
[12:58] <jubu> cant work it out, after clicking the app icon, its juz blank dat appears
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: usermod can't do what you want
[12:58] <microwaver> it's just so. If you plug in my mobile hdd from _digiconnect he gives me an error 'unable to mount', and in details it says 'i didn't disconnect it properly'
[12:58] <w0ng> join #ubuntu-au
[12:58] <w0ng> typo*
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: the user has already been modified
[12:58] <fredmv> v3ctor, so what should I do?    Try mv'ing it?
[12:58] <macnus> Hi. Im running ubuntu 7.10 on my macbook, so i have mounted my mac os partition in ubuntu (/media/mac). When i use mount -l in the terminal, it tells me that the mac partition is mountet, and its rw, but i cant write files to the partition. Can someone tell me why, and what to do? thanks
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: your problem is that the directory has the wrong name
[12:58] <jubu> one user said to me that i need to add visual effects, os i've added but still it wont work?
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: mv /home/fmv /home/fredmv
[12:59] <fredmv> v3ctor,  exactly
[12:59] <^u^> jubu, you don't need "visual effects"
[12:59] <fredmv> trying right now
[12:59] <ryan_combs> i need to shrink some videos does anybody have any suggestions on what to use
[12:59] <jubu> ok.
[12:59] <jubu> so wat do i need to get it running...
[12:59] <macnus> Can someone help me?
[12:59] <bazhang> jubu for compiz use screenlets
[13:00] <jubu> is der an object dock in screenlets?
[13:00] <jubu> still a noob in compiz..
[13:00] <^u^> jubu, again - what happens when you type   gdesklets in a terminal
[13:00] <microwaver> it says to do ' mount -t ntfs-39 /dev/sde1 /media/EXTERN -o force' in linux
[13:00] <jubu> how do i set it up?
[13:00] <bazhang> www.screenlets.org jubu
[13:00] <ryan_combs> macnus, what do you need
[13:00] <legend2440> macnus:  did you check the permissions for the dir mac?
[13:00] <jubu> no, i juz click the icon, and the gdesklets shell appaers but blank...
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  Interesting. - You may want to try to mount the thing manually.  With  the ntfs-3g Stuff. it defaults to a SAFE mode. where it will not mount a windows fileystem. IF that filkesystem has been removed uncleanly/flagged as needing scanned.
[13:00] <macnus> ryan_combs: Im running ubuntu 7.10 on my macbook, so i have mounted my mac os partition in ubuntu (/media/mac). When i use mount -l in the terminal, it tells me that the mac partition is mountet, and its rw, but i cant write files to the partition. Can someone tell me why, and what to do? thanks
[13:01] <bazhang> heh jubu you are just not listening to people
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  the 'fix' is to plug it into a windows machine and have windows scan the disk/fix errors. (is one fix at least)
[13:01] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, so I can't check / fix it in Ubuntu?
[13:01] <fredmv> v3ctor,  _thank you_ very much.  I would've never thought to 'mv' it.   Worked perfectly.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  be sure to use the 'safely remove' thing in windows - befor removing it.
[13:01] <ryan_combs> macnus, i dont think i can help you sorry
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  you can.. but its considered more risky
[13:01] <linuxius> hello! is there anyone who can help me with an NVIDIA problem?
[13:01] <v3ctor> fredmv: no problem, tis what we are here for
[13:02] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, Yeah, I read that.
[13:02] <^u^> bazhang, he installed gdesklets but not gdesklets-data
[13:02] <macnus> ryan_combs: Well Thanks anyway ;)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  thers some ntfs tools, that can scan/fix the thing.. but some times they dont work.
[13:02] <legend2440> macnus:  did you check the permissions for the dir mac?
[13:02] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, So I should reboot, go to windows, check for errors, remove safely, and then It would be working ok in ubuntu
[13:02] <bazhang> ^u^: aye but he refuses to listen
[13:02] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: what's the problem :)
[13:02] <jubu> yah...
[13:02] <ryan_combs> i need to shrink some videos does anybody have any suggestions on what to use
[13:02] <jubu> gdeskltes only
[13:02] <^u^> bazhang, that's why I palmed it off to you :)
[13:03] <bazhang> ^u^: hehe not so fast..
[13:03] <jubu> coz i needed to run the object dock and system info on the screen
[13:03] <DRebellion> ryan_combs, mencoder
[13:03] <MistaED> hey all.... need an expert on drive speeds :O
[13:03] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, I'll try that.
[13:03] <jubu> ^u^ wat should i do?
[13:03] <macnus> legend2440: Yeah. Its only root, that has acces. How does my user get acces?
[13:03] <bazhang> MistaED: the experts are on holiday; you're stuck with us
[13:03] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, see you in a bit opr so :)
[13:03] <ThaRabbit> drive speeds :) ? specifics please?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  that would be the easiest way..  You could just leave it pluged in. :)
[13:04] <ryan_combs> DRebellion, im not so good with command lines
[13:04] <^u^> jubu, listen to people
[13:04] <^u^> jubu, scroll up
[13:04] <ryan_combs> DRebellion, i need something graphical
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  that avidmux tool is handy
[13:04] <bazhang> jubu use your scroll key
[13:04] <gaE4> where can i find a list of all installed applications? if i go Applications -> Add/Remove... there isnt everything
[13:04] <jubu> yup..den wat? @ ^u^
[13:04] <MistaED> see, i have a fairly old laptop and i have no idea how fast the drive inside should get to, it's a 6gb hitachi thing, and the mobo looks like it uses a 440BX so intel piix, capable of UDMA2 (i think this is 66?)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  use the synaptic package manager tool.
[13:05] <MistaED> bazhang, hehe
[13:05] <^u^> jubu, install gdesklets-data
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  that add/remove is a 'lite' :) version sort of..
[13:05] <linuxius> my problem: when I start up the laptop with the vesa driver (Dell INSPIRON 8200, GeForce 4 440 Go), then everything works fine. resolution is low though. I can then copy the xorg.conf with the "nvidia" driver and restart the xserver. that works. but when I start up the system with the "nvidia" configuration the system crashes (lockup or mysterious signs all across the screen...)
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone | gaE4
[13:05] <bazhang> gaE4: try dpkg -l in the terminal
[13:05] <ubotwo> gaE4: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:05] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, how do you shrink in that i thought you could only convert formats
[13:05] <keiserr> hi where can i download older versions of ubuntu? searching for feisty
[13:05] <DRebellion> gaE4, apt-cache pkgnames
[13:05] <legend2440> macnus: sudo nautilus browse to /media/mac change owner and group fields to your user name and check boxes for rw
[13:05] <gaE4> omg^
[13:05] <gaE4> ty
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  define 'shrink' then... how are you going to shrink it otherwise? You want to zip the thing?
[13:05] <MistaED> the speeds i get with hdparm are 75mb/s cache, 4-8mb/s buffer, not sure if that's the fastest it can get
[13:05] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: you've tried the restricted driver :) ?
[13:05] <MistaED> but yeah, no idea as it's old tech
[13:06] <jubu> ok then whats next? @ ^u^
[13:06] <bazhang> linuxius: you may need the legacy driver for such an older card
[13:06] <linuxius> do you mean the legacy?
[13:06] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, no just make it a smaller file
[13:06] <linuxius> I have already installed envy with the 96xx series....
[13:06] <^u^> jubu, go to apps in the menu - find gdesklets and click it - what happens?
[13:06] <bazhang> uh oh envy linuxius
[13:06] <archman> is there any ip finder program; i want to find targets ip....
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[13:06] <ubotwo> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  and how do you plan on making a 5 gb video (or whatever) smaller?  theres a lot of data..   what do you plan on doing with the thing ?
[13:06] <linuxius> I know...
[13:06] <DRebellion> archman, nmap?
[13:07] <MistaED> tried the usual stuff like enabling dma and all those other tweaks but it denies those as it uses some other driver i think, libata?
[13:07] <DRebellion> Dr_Willis, ryan_combs, just reencode it with a smaller resolution
[13:07] <linuxius> the system work when I restart the xserver after startup, why only then?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  other then converting it to some other better compression format, or reducing  somthing on the video..   Im not sure what you really want. :)
[13:07] <jubu> all i see is the gdesklets shell as blank
[13:07] <bazhang> is today no reading links day?
[13:07] <archman> DRebellion: it can sniff ip's?
[13:07] <legend2440> macnus: actually gksudo nautilus is better because nautilus is GUI
[13:07] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, its only 700 mb
[13:07] <DRebellion> archman, what exacty are you trying to do?
[13:07] <jubu> all i see is the gdesklets shell as blank
[13:07] <cminion> when i run games like warzone2100 or UFO: alien invasion i often experience the game screen up or down making the windowmanager fill out half of the screen and the game the other half (unscaled). I suppose it has something do to with window control in Gnome.. but i don't know how to fix this issue.
[13:08] <jubu> after awhile and its gone...
[13:08] <jubu> after awhile and its gone...
[13:08] <bazhang> jubu you need to install the data
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, You say you know, it says Unsupported and use at your own risk, yet you are still asking for support..
[13:08] <archman> DRebellion, trying to get target's ip; i have his mac.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> I tend to 'convert' my videos for my portable player all the time with avidmux. :) 320x240 - saves a lot of space. heh.. and looks bad on other things then the portable player.
[13:08] <jubu> yup i've ready installed the data...
[13:08] <macnus> legend2440: I just get this message, when trying to change the owner: Couldn't change the owner of "mac" because it is on a read-only disk
[13:08] <jubu> apt-get install gdesklets-data
[13:08] <DRebellion> archman, is he on the same network?
[13:08] <^u^> jubu, what ubuntu version are you on?
[13:08] <archman> DRebellion: yes
[13:09] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis,  okey ill try that
[13:09] <linuxius> well the problem didn't change, it was the same before I used envy ;-)
[13:09] <bazhang> jubu type gdesklets in the terminal then
[13:09] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:09] <DRebellion> archman, yars what's your ip address?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> cminion,  if you think its a gnome issue - you could install some other window manager, like fluxbox, and try running the game in it.
[13:09] <jubu> 7.10 Gutsy 64bit
[13:09] <kreker> J
[13:09] <^u^> jubu, always   sudo apt-get instal ...
[13:09] <archman> DRebellion: why do you ask?
[13:09] <linuxius> it's annoying to always restart the xserver with a different xorg.conf after startup...
[13:09] <legend2440> macnus: what exactlyare you mounting? a flash drive or hard drive?
[13:09] <^u^> jubu, 64bit doesn't work well - gdesklets is 32bit - you're os is wrong for the app
[13:10] <DRebellion> archman, so i can give you the nmap command to scan the network
[13:10] <archman> DRebellion: 192.168.1.29
[13:10] <macnus> Its a partition on my harddrive (dev/sda2)
[13:10] <DASPRiD> iter, \o/
[13:10] <jubu> oic. ok then what app should i use in replace of gdesklet??
[13:10] <DRebellion> archman, sudo apt-get install nmap && sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1-255
[13:10] <DASPRiD> after a week, the 699GiGs are finally crypted \o/
[13:10] <macnus> legend2440: Its a partition on my harddrive (dev/sda2)
[13:10] <^u^> jubu, 32bit ubuntu
[13:10] <erUSUL> !yay | DASPRiD
[13:10] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Glad you made it! :-)
[13:11] <DRebellion> archman, then look for the mac address ( or grep it if you want)
[13:11] <DASPRiD> DRebellion, use screenelets
[13:11] <^u^> jubu, not many apps are written for 64bit
[13:11] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: applying the changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf should make sure  starts with the right config :)
[13:11] <DASPRiD> (require compiz)
[13:11] <bazhang> jubu either reinstall 32bit for gdesklets or find another program
[13:11] <legend2440> macnus: is it formatted ext3? or some other filesystem?
[13:11] <jubu> i cant work the 32bit ubuntu on my PC, since i'm using processor of AMD Dual Core 64-bit
[13:11] <DRebellion> DASPRiD, ???
[13:11] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:11] <archman> DRebellion: thanks ! Card has to be in monitor mode, or?
[13:11] <geert_> Could anybody help me getting a ScanJet 5300 to work?
[13:11] <macnus> legend2440: It is NFS+
[13:11] <DASPRiD> DRebellion,
[13:11] <jubu> i get error everytime i install 32bit ubuntu
[13:11] <DRebellion> archman, no just normal mode will do
[13:11] <DASPRiD> !google screenelts
[13:11] <linuxius> ThaRabbit, what do you mean by that?
[13:11] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:11] <^u^> jubu, 32bit will work well on that processor
[13:11] <DASPRiD> :(
[13:12] <archman> DRebellion: thanks for the help, mate ! ;-)
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: well, you say you have to restart X after each reboot with a new xorg.conf file
[13:12] <jubu> i get an error in installation...
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, wHEN YOU INSTALL THE 32BIT OS OR A 32 BIT APP?
[13:12] <DRebellion> Jack_Sparrow, :O
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for the caps lcok
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the main config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:12] <bazhang> ThaRabbit: this is with envy
[13:12] <DASPRiD> jack-desktop, fix your shift key
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: ah, eny... it's a geforce 440 right?
[13:12] <jubu> 32bit app
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DASPRiD, Got it
[13:12] <linuxius> yes, where "nvidia" is the driver, before shutdown, i have to copy an xorg.conf with "vesa" as the driver...
[13:13] <linuxius> yes
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> DASPRiD, Do you have a quick way to disable it completely?
[13:13] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: try "nv" as driver :)
[13:13] <DASPRiD> Jack_Sparrow, take a knife and get it out :)
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[13:13] <linuxius> I already tried that, it stays the same, except that I don't have 3D support...
[13:13] <atoponce> i assume that adding icons such as Trash to my desktop mean editing value in gconf-editor. anyone know where i can find those keys/values?
[13:13] <osotogari> hi im trying to enable remote desktop on my desktop box here and connect to it via my laptop, I enabled it through ubuntu's remote desktop utility and when i try to connect i get a timeout error
[13:13] <legend2440> macnus:  what happens if you try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/mac?
[13:14] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:14] <linuxius> does this anything have to do with CPU?
[13:14] <jubu> is screenlet 32bit app???
[13:14] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: and you've tried the restricted driver?
[13:14] <DASPRiD> jubu, both
[13:14] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: via the restricted driver manager... not via envy
[13:14] <greasy_leftwing> is there some issue I'm unaware of concerning adobe flash player in firefox?
[13:14] <DASPRiD> jubu, and fix your questionmark-key :P
[13:14] <macnus> legend2440: It gives me this message: mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media/mac busy
[13:14] <macnus> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/mac
[13:15] <jubu> ok
[13:15] <linuxius> which is under system/settings...
[13:15] <linuxius> ?
[13:15] <ryanzec> greasy_leftwing, are you ruuning 64-bit?
[13:15] <greasy_leftwing> ryanzec: yes
[13:15] <jubu> so i can use screenlets in replace with gdesklets
[13:15] <DASPRiD> jubu, yes
[13:15] <DASPRiD> jubu, screenelts is better anyway
[13:15] <bazhang> jubu you can try
[13:15] <greasy_leftwing> yes I am
[13:15] <archman> DRebellion: it says Invalid target host specification: 192.168.1-255
[13:15] <jubu> okies..
[13:15] <linuxius> yes, then I get a black screen after startup, which then works after
[13:15] <linuxius> Option		"UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[13:16] <DRebellion> archman, sorry, 192.168.1.1-255
[13:16] <jubu> im removing gdesklets ryt now
[13:16] <DASPRiD> \o/
[13:16] <greasy_leftwing> is this a common problem?
[13:16] <bazhang> ryt?
[13:16] <ryanzec> greasy_leftwing, have you install the driver from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[13:16] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: ok, apparantly the 440 isn't supported by the unified driver anymore :(
[13:16] <linuxius> but my problem still is the same...
[13:16] <linuxius> yes...
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58995/                   are my notes on that
[13:16] <greasy_leftwing> how do I go about that?
[13:16] <DASPRiD> !tell DASPRiD clone
[13:16] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:16] <DASPRiD> >_>
[13:16] <atoponce> nm. found it
[13:16] <jubu> another question...
[13:16] <linuxius> but why does it work after startup...?
[13:16] <archman> DRebellion: do i need to be disconnected? It doesn't show the network i need...
[13:16] <DRebellion> !help > DASPRiD
[13:16] <DASPRiD> ah :)
[13:17] <DASPRiD> !help clone
[13:17] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[13:17] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: I'll have a look thanks :)
[13:17] <^u^> !clone | DASPRiD
[13:17] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:17] <jubu> wats d best app for CD/DVD burning in UBUNTU?
[13:17] <DASPRiD> ^u^, ty ^^
[13:17] <^u^> k
[13:17] <DRebellion> !best | jubu
[13:17] <ubotwo> jubu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[13:17] <jubu> lyk as user friendly as NERO?
[13:17] <macnus> legend2440: Is it okay, if i start a private chat, cause it's so hard to find anything, when there is 1213 people posting messages :)
[13:17] <jubu> ok..
[13:17] <ryanzec> just follow the instructions, it is very easy and that fixed flash for me on my 64-bit system
[13:17] <DRebellion> archman, that is the network you're connected to right? you said your ip address was 192.168.1.29
[13:17] <bazhang> jubu please fix your keyboard
[13:17] <jubu> whats the most common for CD/DVD bruning?
[13:18] <legend2440> macnus:  sorry i don't know why it says its a read-only disk unless it has something to do with nfs+ filesystem. yes private is ok
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Get nero for linux
[13:18] <DASPRiD> ^u^, hmm, you piped me into the clone command, now i'm twice :(
[13:18] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:18] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[13:18] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: checking up on some stuff, one moment :)
[13:18] <archman> DRebellion: yes, but he doesn't show my network, just some other...
[13:18] <^u^> DASPRiD, apologies - but you're twice what?
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanakca, Yes, you need to recompile alsa.. not too hard,, /join #Alsa for help with that
[13:19] <DASPRiD> ^u^, twice there
[13:19] <linuxius> thnx
[13:19] <ryanakca> Jack_Sparrow: I think you mean ryanzec
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[13:19] <^u^> fine DASPRiD ...
[13:19] <DRebellion> archman, 0_o
[13:19] <lodi> #winehq
[13:19] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: No luck using the Terminal Server Client
[13:19] <bazhang> heh
[13:19] <DASPRiD> ^u^, that's called a joke >_>
[13:19] <Agent_bob> hello! new teratory for me. namely usb devices. i'm not new to linux however.  can someone tell me what module or (application/startup script) is needed to access a usb flash drive ?
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, Look into port forwarding... you must be behind a router
[13:20] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: it should work out of the box, are you getting errors when trying to mount it?
[13:20] <DASPRiD> Agent_bob, it should automount by default
[13:20] <lodi> hi
[13:20] <^u^> DASPRiD, ahhh k - thanks for the explanation...
[13:20] <osotogari> Although I do notice in Firestarter on the machine I am connecting to it  logs a blocked connection on port 5900
[13:20] <gaE4> i installes amarok, but when i wanna play a mp3-file it says that amarok cant play mp3's and if i wanna install it, after installation it says, restart amarok to apply changes, when i restart it, it says cannot play mp3's^
[13:20] <ryanakca> gaE4: #kubuntu please
[13:20] <lodi> i think i have a network problem but i d like to chjeck if ive overlooked something
[13:20] <archman> DRebellion: It shows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58997/
[13:21] <jubu> NERO for Linux is just only trial version? is there any equivalent app for free??
[13:21] <Agent_bob> ryanakca & DASPRiD i didn't ask for shoulds   but thanks for the standard reply.
[13:21] <gaE4> hmm, k, sry
[13:21] <bazhang> gaE4: with ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:21] <elius> can i install apache 1.3 using apt-get or i need to install it from sources?
[13:21] <lodi> i have kubuntu 7.10
[13:21] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the restricted manager should offer you a legacy driver for your card
[13:21] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: It should... followed by "Are you getting errors..."
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, If you have a serial for Nero for windows, it is suppost to work in linux
[13:21] <Seveaz> elius: 1999 called, they want their software back ;)
[13:21] <Agent_bob> ryanakca errors where ?
[13:21] <ryanakca> lodi: What is the network problem, whats happening, are you getting errors, etc?
[13:21] <lodi> and using wine i managed wioth somne difficulty to install an app called wavereader
[13:21] <jubu> oic..
[13:21] <DRebellion> archman, what's the problem then?
[13:21] <Seveaz> elius: the 'apache' package is apache 1.x, the 'apache2' package is apache 2.x
[13:21] <elius> Seveaz: need to install it for a project im working on
[13:22] <linuxius> which I can install by synaptics...?
[13:22] <gaE4> hi, i installed amarok, but when i wanna play a mp3-file it says that amarok cant play mp3's and if i wanna install it, after installation it says, restart amarok to apply changes, when i restart it, it says cannot play mp3's^
[13:22] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the manager is under system -> maintainance... you need the nvidia-glx-legacy package :)
[13:22] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok, so I'm guessing that when you plug it in, nothing happens?
[13:22] <lodi> it is used to monitor general electric security cam mnultiplexer
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, When I installed it .. it came up with a serial number that I assume was my serial from windows (mounted) drive
[13:22] <Seveaz> !repeat | gae4
[13:22] <jubu> maybe i'll just install NERO 4 WIndows via Wine
[13:22] <ryanakca> gaE4: ask in #kubuntu please
[13:22] <ubotwo> gae4: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:22] <Agent_bob> ryanakca exactly
[13:22] <bazhang> gaE4: did you read my last message to you?
[13:22] <DASPRiD> gaE4, you need mp3 gstreamer plugin
[13:22] <archman> DRebellion: there is no connection im on? Just that ZyXEL, its some other connection; some neighbour...
[13:22] <linuxius> already tried that... that stays the same... quality is even lower...
[13:22] <gaE4> omg, wring channel rly sorry
[13:22] <Agent_bob> ryanakca dapper drake LTS console only.
[13:22] <elius> Seveaz: wont let me apt-get install apache, "Package apache is not available..."
[13:22] <sinbox> jubu nero to do what?
[13:22] <lodi> when i connect to the desired location
[13:22] <archman> DRebellion: it needs to appear  ABRA
[13:22] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok. run 'mount' ?
[13:23] <jubu> did it the trial version expired @ jack?
[13:23] <lodi> data comes in at a very slow rate, like 30 kb/s
[13:23] <jubu> CD/DVD burning
[13:23] <Seveaz> elius: you might need to enable universe
[13:23] <DRebellion> archman, zyxel is the manufacturer of the network card with that mac address
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Mine has not.. crossing fingers
[13:23] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: Got it sorted, firewall on the remote machine was blocking the VNC port
[13:23] <Agent_bob> ryanakca it can't automount  it's not seens
[13:23] <elius> Seveaz: entable universe?
[13:23] <jubu> ok.
[13:23] <Agent_bob> seen
[13:23] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: thats why it didn't mount automatically, it should in GNOME/KDU :)
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, glad to hear it..
[13:23] <sinbox> there are some linux apps to do CD/DVD writing jubu
[13:23] <archman> DRebellion: i know, but also is the ap
[13:23] <linuxius> I have heard something about a CPU problem... could that be the cause?
[13:23] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: with the "nvidia" driver listed in your xorg.conf file, quality is bad with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?
[13:23] <jubu> can i use apt 2 get NERO for Linux?
[13:23] <lodi> if I do www.speedtest.nl in ie6.0 which also runs using wine
[13:23] <Seveaz> !universe | elius
[13:23] <linuxius> yes
[13:23] <ubotwo> elius: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[13:23] <lodi> i get quite acceptable values
[13:23] <DRebellion> archman, you must be connected to the wrong network then
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, no
[13:24] <lodi> like 150 - 300 kb/s
[13:24] <greasy_leftwing> wow, that was eay
[13:24] <DRebellion> archman, or nmap has  made a mistake
[13:24] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok, just a second, I'll try to find you an automount script
[13:24] <greasy_leftwing> thanks
[13:24] <DASPRiD> ls -alh
[13:24] <wwomack> Question about Ubuntu Installation?
[13:24] <DASPRiD> ah wrong window
[13:24] <Agent_bob> ryanakca ok.  now do you know what module is required to access it ?
[13:24] <jubu> ok.
[13:24] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: then I can not suggest a better sollution, you could try the legacy drivers from the nvidia website :)
[13:24] <bazhang> wwomack: go ahead please
[13:24] <jubu> but is der a debian package for NERO Linux?
[13:24] <bazhang> jubu you are on #debian?
[13:24] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: Kernel module? I think it comes included by default. Don't take my word for it. *googling*
[13:24] <Seveaz> jubu: there could be but why use crappy proprietary software? :)
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Yes, it was a simple install, not compiling and all of that
[13:25] <wwomack> How do I resize a windows XP partition in Live CD Installation?
[13:25] <archman> DRebellion: i'll translate the whole thing: i am connected to an ap; and also is connected my friend to that same ap; how to get friends ip?
[13:25] <linuxius> I downloaded the latest legacy driver from the nvidia webpage: 1:96.43.05 and installed it...
[13:25] <jubu> ok
[13:25] <bazhang> wwomack: resize it to your pleasure and then continue--the slider bar allows that
[13:25] <linuxius> only works after startup
[13:25] <Seveaz> archman: you could scan for it with arping
[13:25] <DRebellion> archman, scan the network like i just said, or ask your friend nicely
[13:26] <linuxius> when I shut down the laptop and restart it with the "nvidia" driver, the system crashes...
[13:26] <archman> DRebellion: errgh...
[13:26] <DASPRiD> !automate
[13:26] <ubotwo> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, If you insist on asking for help please tell people that you used ENVY to install that driver
[13:26] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: this might be useful: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[13:26] <linuxius> I don't know what kind of problem that could be
[13:26] <soto> Is it daylight savings time in U.S. today?
[13:26] <DASPRiD> !cloning
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> soto, yes
[13:26] <ubotwo> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:26] <Seveaz> Jack_Sparrow: eww... envy...
[13:26] <frawfraw> soto: yea last night
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> MOrning Seveaz
[13:26] <Agent_bob> ryanakca ok.   thank you "<-------------->" this much
[13:26] <frawfraw> soto: err, wait.. i mean right now?
[13:27] <wwomack> I am not sure where to get the slide bar.  Do not want to damage my Windows Partition.
[13:27] <archman> Seveaz: to install it i need to remove 3 packs; not really...thanks, though...
[13:27] <Seveaz> archman: really? What does it want to remove?
[13:27] <soto> How do I print my timezone and DST info from the command line?
[13:27] <ryanakca> agent: lol, np. If it doesn't work, poke me, I should be in and out all day :)
[13:27] <linuxius> Jack_Sparrow, and then there is a wiki page which tells you to manually install the driver, which I did and then the problem is the same...
[13:27] <archman> DRebellion: the scan doesn't show it...
[13:27] <linuxius> just did it with the wiki... I'm sorry if that's wrong...
[13:27] <bazhang> wwomack: once you start installing it will sense your windows install and then give you a slider to resize the partition
[13:27] <archman> DRebellion: some other way, except asking a 'friend' ?
[13:28] <legend2440> is there a problem with using ENVY? i have used it successfully for radeon 9660 many times
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, Doesnt matter, you already hosed things up by running envy... it changed sources etc, just redoing it manually does not fix the problem
[13:28] <archman> Seveaz: iputils-arping network-manager network-manager-gnome
[13:28] <bazhang> legend2440: yes
[13:28] <soto> !envy | legend2440
[13:28] <ubotwo> legend2440: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:28] <ryanzec> the alsa is not active right now, anyone know any link on how to compile alsa for 64-bit ubuntu 7.10?
[13:28] <linuxius> ok, sorry for asking questions then...
[13:28] <Seveaz> archman: what are you installing then?
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> legend2440, Not a good idea
[13:28] <legend2440> bazhang:  ok ty
[13:28] <linuxius> so I can throw my laptop away?
[13:28] <archman> Seveaz: or better install from source?
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: arping, no?
[13:29] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: perhaps this can help you further - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, Reinstall a backup prior to using envy
[13:29] <legend2440> linuxius:  i'll take it lol
[13:29] <Seveaz> archman: it's installed already (iputils-arping contains it)
[13:29] <ryanakca> keiserr: You probably want the Ubuntu Server CD... be warned, it doesn't come with gnome.
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: yeah, i realized
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: sorry
[13:30] <vallhalla81> hi all can anyone tell me how i get this style of bar at the bottom of the screen http://mikesubuntu.googlepages.com/Screenshotweirdvideo.jpg
[13:30] <wwomack> Do I click on the Windows Partition and it will continu to allow modification when I click OK.  It gives me a message that I am about to delete the Curent Partition
[13:30] <archman> Seveaz: how to scan?
[13:30] <linuxius> well, envy didn't change my problem, it stayed exactely the same... ;-)
[13:30] <Seveaz> archman: read the manpage :)
[13:30] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[13:30] <linuxius> however... thanx ThaRabbit... will have a look there... they may know more ;-)
[13:30] <geert_> Has anybody got any experience with a HP ScanJet 5300?
[13:31] <Seveaz> (read that as: I don't know ;))
[13:31] <archman> Seveaz: can you give me some 'fast' command? O-o
[13:31] <DRebellion> Seveaz, archman, nmap would have used arp scans on the network anyway, so i doubt it will make a difference
[13:31] <^u^> vallhalla81, that is avant window navigator - you need compiz enabled to run it
[13:31] <ryanakca> geert_: What would you like to know about it? Are you looking to install it, are you getting errors, ?
[13:32] <geert_> ryanakca, well, the device is plugged in, and it shows up on lsusb, but xsane does not detect it
[13:32] <vallhalla81> ^u^: just compis or fusion?
[13:32] <bazhang> vallhalla81: they are one now
[13:32] <ryanakca> geert_: this might be helpfull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7930
[13:32] <^u^> vallhalla81, it is the same thing these days I believe
[13:33] <unenough> help! how do i control the fan on a toshiba laptop? A215
[13:33] <vallhalla81> ok thank you i will look in to it now
[13:33] <geert_> ryanakca, it says I need to add my user to the camera group. How do I do this?
[13:34] <osotogari> I want to share out my partition on /dev/sda7 through samba, I have set up samba and I can access the share through my ubuntu laptop, however when i try to connect via a windows machine I get a "network path not available" error message
[13:34] <picotron> xfi drivers?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> osotogari,  you can access it with the samba tools under ubuntu? or you mean accessing the mountpoint?
[13:34] <archman> Seveaz: i don't get that 'destination' option.
[13:35] <archman> wont wor kwithout that
[13:35] <gaE4> i am confused about deleting files...
[13:35] <gaE4> sometimes i delete with shift-delete or just delete and agree - but now i found a file which contains lots of "deleted" files - not all files i deleted. its on another harddisc - does linux just paste them into another folder instead of deleting, because it isnt the same harddisc on which ubuntu is installed? hmm, sry my english isnt the best ;D
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> osotogari,  i tend to manually edit my samba config to enable  a few public shares  - The books in the 'samba-doc' package cover this.
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  they tend to go  into the trashcan, which  you then empty. with removeable media - this can be a problem.
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You should see a .Trash folder on your other drives like ntfs and fat32 ...
[13:36] <gaE4> yeah the folders name is .trash-username
[13:37] <Bucko`> hi, anyone knows if its possible to run quake3 on ubuntu on a ps3?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, you should also see another in /root on your main partition
[13:37] <gaE4> ok, and the trash doesnt delete the files there because it hastn acces onto this harddisc, true?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, true, but there are ways of linking them
[13:37] <archman> Seveaz: i need target's ip. But i'm looking for it...maan
[13:38] <DRebellion> archman, how do you know your friend's even connected to the network?
[13:38] <bazhang> archman: why do you need this 'friend's ip?
[13:38] <gaE4> is it hard to do that?
[13:38] <ismail> turkish
[13:38] <bazhang> ismail /j #ubuntu-tr
[13:38] <archman> DRebellion: router blinks; so he's probably online dling movies...
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  every so often i have to  use the shell and as root 'sudo rm .trash-whatever'
[13:39] <fajn_poba> hello
[13:39] <archman> bazhang: hmhm...
[13:39] <DRebellion> archman, right... very logical...
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  and yes. its an annoyance with gnome and removeable media.
[13:39] <bazhang> archman are you trying to access someone else's box? without their permission?
[13:39] <gaE4> Dr_Willis thanks
[13:40] <fajn_poba> does Ubuntu have the locale as ASCII or as UTF-8?
[13:40] <archman> DRebellion: well, yes....argh....caught
[13:40] <archman> bazhang: well, yes....argh....caught
[13:40] <vallhalla81> !avant window navigator
[13:40] <ubotwo> vallhalla81: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:40] <endo602> I just switch distros from Kubuntu to Ubuntu and now my glftpd is messed up, any ideas?
[13:40] <MiraiWarren0_0> I have a file to run the Netzero client on for Linspire.  I think it will work for Ubuntu, but when I tried to use the netzero.deb package I got an error about having the wrong processor architecture.  Can it be compiled for a 64-bit machine?
[13:41] <bazhang> does #ubuntu channel support that sort of behaviour?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> MiraiWarren0_0,  mixxing 64 and 32bit is not a good thing. :)  it MIGHT work if you had a 32bit install.
[13:41] <^u^> !info awn
[13:41] <ubotwo> Package awn does not exist in gutsy
[13:41] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: remember I was going to install onto RAID1? well, I did, and it worked, but then it broke again - froze at the ubuntu splash screen - so now I'm going to do a plain install to one of the disks and work on RAID1 sometime later, when I'm not in a hurry.
[13:41] <vallhalla81> i installed avant window navigator but when i click to open it nothing hapens
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> MiraiWarren0_0,  if you can find the source deb . you may be ble to recompile it.
[13:41] <archman> bazhang: not really...
[13:41] <gaE4> Dr_Willis, no such file or directory; sudo -s | Password | sudo rm .Trash-ga | that were my commands
[13:41] <fajn_poba> is Ubuntu 8.04's default locale ASCII or UTF-8?
[13:42] <MiraiWarren0_0> Ok, thank you.
[13:42] <erUSUL> fajn_poba: the later like every other ubuntu release
[13:42] <MiraiWarren0_0> I do not think netzero released any.
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dwater, Yes raid is troublesome, whichis why I quit using it
[13:42] <^u^> vallhalla81, have you enabled desktop effects?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  give the proper full path to the dir or cd to where its at.. and normally its 'rm -rf .Trash-Whatever'
[13:42] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  yes i have
[13:42] <gaE4> Dr_Willis k, i will try, ty
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, I should have done that sooner
[13:43] <fajn_poba> erUSUL so any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale UTF-8?
[13:43] <^u^> vallhalla81, someone who uses it will have to help you then - sorry
[13:43] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: nah he was too sly
[13:43] <erUSUL> fajn_poba: yes afaik
[13:43] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  do you think a restart or reinstal of awn ?
[13:43] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: I've done it a few times before - on Ubuntu server, and on FC6 without a whole lot of trouble. It looked ok this time too, to start with, but it started to mess up. I found a few ubuntu specific bugs related to the problems I was seeking too.
[13:43] <fajn_poba> can anyone confirm this please?
[13:44] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale UTF-8
[13:44] <^u^> vallhalla81, I would maybe try a restart first if it is there
[13:44] <fajn_poba> yes or no?
[13:44] <_julian> hi all
[13:44] <_julian> how can I see which version of ubuntu I am actually running?
[13:44] <DRebellion> !version | _julian
[13:44] <fajn_poba> loool
[13:44] <ubotwo> _julian: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[13:44] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  ok thank you agn for your help
[13:44] <^u^> k
[13:44] <_julian> DRebellion: thanks (c:
[13:44] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: anyway, thanks for the help. ttyl
[13:45] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:45] <_julian> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should be enough to install all security relevant updates, shouldn't it?
[13:45] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:45] <gaE4> Dr_Willis, rm: cannot remove `.Trash-ga': Is a directory
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, empty not delete folder
[13:46] <gaE4> which command?
[13:46] <abstrak> hi all, i have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the /dev/dsp1|2 are some times exchanged... what can i do ?
[13:46] <magoo> any one use virtualbox
[13:46] <magoo> im having problems
[13:46] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:46] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:46] <tonyyarusso> _julian: provided you have default repos, yes.  However, it will install some updates that are not security-related as well, so if you specifically want to limit it to that you would need to do more.
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, They have a good channel  #VBox  I think
[13:46] <magoo> really cool didnt know
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, LEt me know if that isnt right
[13:47] <_julian> tonyyarusso: that's ok, only need to be sure all security updates are included... and hopefully it breaks nothing
[13:47] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow, which command for empty folder?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> _julian: yeah, "should" be safe.
[13:48] <DRebellion> gaE4, rm -r folder/*
[13:48] <gaE4> k, ty
[13:48] <wwomack> anyone mind a private msg to answer a few instal questions?
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, I dont know..  I have an icon linking all the trash...
[13:48] <elius> where can i find httpd.conf(using apache) on ubuntu?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> _julian: btw, it is also possible to set up automatic, unattended updates, if you're running a server or something and want that.
[13:48] <Starnestommy> elius: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[13:48] <DRebellion> elius, command:  locate httpd.conf
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> !pm | wwomack
[13:48] <ubotwo> wwomack: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:48] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:48] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> elius: /etc/apache2/
[13:49] <gaE4> is there no way to bind the trash from other discs into the trash of the maindisc?
[13:49] <magoo> i dont think anyone is alive in the vbox chat
[13:49] <elius> hmm thanks
[13:49] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:49] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Yes there is.. I use cairo-dock which has that feature built in
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> hi
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> I want to ask a question regarding Xubuntu
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  Not really  that ive seen . its a annoying 'issue' with how the gnome file manager works.. Just rember on external disks always use shift-delete, or similer. to actually delete the files.
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <tonyyarusso> !repeat | fajn_poba
[13:50] <ubotwo> fajn_poba: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, they are there, just not as active, be patient and you will get the best help with VBox from them
[13:50] <fajn_poba> just fucking answer me already!
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <bazhang> wow
[13:51] <gaE4> ok i think i am just to nooby to get this work^
[13:51] <bazhang> language fajn_poba
[13:51] <fajn_poba> just fucking answer me already!
[13:51]  * Dr_Willis wonders how chinease can be utf-8
[13:51] <bazhang> gaE4: not that hard really and we can help you out when/if you run into difficulties
[13:51] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind them with the correct dsp at each reboot?
[13:51] <master_alvaro> hello
[13:52] <master_alvaro> i want to update 1 package (with depend.), how to do it (by apt)
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, Is it a package from our repos or outside
[13:52] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: sudo apt-get upgrade packagename
[13:52] <master_alvaro> i have testing-priority=900 and unstable=800 in /etc/apt/preferences
[13:53] <gaE4> hmm... ;D how to bind the trash from another disc into the main trash? ??cairo-dock?? - where to get this? didnt find a package called cairo-dock
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Let me find you a link
[13:54] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow ty
[13:54] <master_alvaro> i have ooo-2.3 from testing, but i want 2.4 from sid; so sould i type: apt-get -t unstable install openoffice.org? or what? upgrade?
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[13:54] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: um, you shouldn't be using Debian repositories in the first place.
[13:54] <gaE4> thanks
[13:54] <master_alvaro> BTW: i have debian ;p
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:55] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: Ah, in that case, #debian will know.
[13:55] <master_alvaro> they don't know or don't want to tell me ;p
[13:55] <bazhang> haha
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, This is the wrong channel for your questions..
[13:56] <master_alvaro> but apt-pinning is avaiable for ubuntu as well
[13:56] <bazhang> master_alvaro: go here www.ubuntu.com and dl and install then all will be well ;]
[13:56] <master_alvaro> so it should be work for ubu
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, This is the wrong channel for your questions.  Debian would not have a problem answering you .. unless you were banned or something like that
[13:57] <master_alvaro> so if i have ubuntu, for egzample 6.06 LTS or another stable version, and want package from testing/beta/alpha, what i sholud to do?
[13:57] <bazhang> master_alvaro: add the backports
[13:58] <bazhang> master_alvaro: or go to #ubuntu+1 if you are really brave ;]
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: apt-get -t hardy foo-package
[13:58] <master_alvaro> but i won't use backport, i want use apt-pinning ;p
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: or apt-get foo-package/hardy
[13:58] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow which one of this packages? using gutsy 64bit? https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[13:58] <master_alvaro> soto: for upadte or install only?
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: The first will get dependencies from hardy also. The second will try to satisfy dependencies from current install
[13:59] <master_alvaro> soto: thx
[13:59] <soto> master_alvaro: Update or install
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, read through there.. I am not sure atm
[13:59] <master_alvaro> ok, thx
[13:59] <master_alvaro> so i found debian bug ;p
[13:59] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow kk
[13:59] <master_alvaro> because it doesn't work for me ;p
[14:00] <gavin__> Hello group.  Where can I find a description of the information I get when I cat /proc/diskstats ?  There is no MAN or INFO page about it.
[14:00] <bazhang> master_alvaro: you are really offtopic here ;]
[14:00] <soto> master_alvaro: Be careful though: You can screw up your system by upgrading libraries when your older packages still depend on older libraries.
[14:00] <amenado> gavin__-> google?
[14:01] <soto> master_alvaro: So you generally do not want to use the -t flag to pull from another version. (Its usually safe if the code is interpreted or they are pure data files).
[14:01] <gavin__> amenado: tried google.  no avail.  thought there might be a good resource online for gereral linux proc filesystem goodness.  Perhaps wikipedia.
[14:01] <soto> master_alvaro: Normally what you would do is hope that it is in the 'backports' repository: It is build specifically against the libraries of the 'current' system.
[14:02] <bazhang> gavin__: install pastebinit and cat and pipe it to that you can then paste the url here for us to check
[14:02] <gavin__> bazhang: I'll check it out, thanks.
[14:02] <master_alvaro> for xserver it is work, but it doesn't work for ooo (it can't meet depend.)
[14:02] <WorkingOnWis2> how can I tel if both cores of my cpu are avtive (as in initialized )
[14:03] <soto> master_alvaro: What fails?
[14:03] <bazhang> arg WorkingOnWis2 someone was just asking that yesterday just a sec
[14:03] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind/force them with the correct/ dsp at each reboot?
[14:03] <soto> master_alvaro: Which package?
[14:03] <tonyyarusso> WorkingOnWis2: System > Administration > System Monitor will show both
[14:04] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: ty
[14:05] <master_alvaro> soto: openoffice.org: Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1: 2.4.0~rc2-1) but 1:2.3.1-5 is to be installed
[14:05] <bazhang> soto he is using #debian in case you weren't aware
[14:06] <master_alvaro> i wrote: apt-get -t unstable install openoffice.org
[14:07] <soto> master_alvaro: #debian is the appropriate channel for debian specific questions, but like I said, trying to pull a big package is going to result in system breakage or dependency conflicts due to incompatible libraries/dependencies.
[14:07] <osotogari> I am trying to share out a partition with Samba, I can access it with Ubuntu on my laptop however when I try to access it with a Windows box I get a "network path not available" error message
[14:07] <lodi> can you browse to it?
[14:07] <master_alvaro> soto: ok, thx
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> soto, HE has been told a couple of times now...
[14:08] <Metuchen> that's probably because Windows sucks.
[14:08] <lodi> lol
[14:08] <master_alvaro> and sry for spamming ;p
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Or hes browsing it locally as the filesystem on the linux box.. not as a samba share..
[14:08] <lodi> are both boxes in the same workgroup?
[14:08] <_contact_> hi all
[14:08] <_contact_>  wonder something
[14:08] <soto> master_alvaro: Ask in #debian (or find out otherwise) if OO is in backports.
[14:08] <osotogari> Yes, same workgroups
[14:09] <_contact_> i'm dowloading ubuntu for 64 bit
[14:09] <lodi> reboot the winwos box?
[14:09] <_contact_> but this file's name contains only amd64
[14:09] <osotogari> @ lodi: Ill try that
[14:09] <_contact_> does it suppot intel emt64?
[14:09] <|WolF1> Question: Is necessary for ubuntu to use antivirus, and if yes which one is the best?
[14:09] <A_linka> hi all! is here anybody from russia?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> _contact_, Are you familiar with linux in general?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !virus | |WolF1
[14:09] <_contact_> nope
[14:09] <ubotwo> |WolF1: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:09] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[14:10] <Metuchen> Antivirus in Ubuntu is for protecting the "innocent" windows boxes you interact with.
[14:10] <_contact_> Jack_Sparrow:  nope
[14:10] <lodi> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> |WolF1,  ubuntu dosent need it. the AV tools out for linux , normally scan windows files :)
[14:10] <|WolF1> lol I get rid off windows once and forever :)
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> _contact_, May I politely suggest you use 32bit to start with... not much difference in speed and it will help you with the learning curve
[14:10]  * Dr_Willis agrees with Jack_Sparrow 
[14:10] <abstrak> How can I set static /dev/dsp ?
[14:11] <wizo> hey, how much space is needed for an ubuntu installation?
[14:11] <_contact_> i'm using pardus 32 bit now already
[14:11] <encryptz> aneouth
[14:11] <_contact_> ubuntu 64 bit is just for tryin' it
[14:11] <_contact_> if it works with my system no problem then
[14:11] <|WolF1> is there a photoshop for linux or something simmilar?
[14:11] <tonyyarusso> wizo: I believe the default comes in around 2.1 GB or so, but it would be wise to use at least 5 GB, since presumably you'll want to save some documents.
[14:11] <lodi> gimp
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp | |WolF1
[14:11] <tonyyarusso> |WolF1: a combination of gimp and inkscape is as close as we get so far.
[14:11] <ubotwo> |WolF1: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[14:11] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[14:11] <Metuchen> I wouldn't say 64-bit is just for trying, but 32-bit is definitely easier to support.
[14:12] <wizo> would 30 gigs in total be enough?
[14:12] <lodi> yes wizo
[14:12] <jrib> Itaku: apt-get source fortune-mod
[14:12] <wizo> lodi, thanks
[14:12] <lodi> u r welcome
[14:13] <wizo> im gonna be installing it with my vista
[14:13] <iNeo> is there someone with a working /etc/toprc file?, looking for an example
[14:13] <wizo> hope grub can let me boot into vista as well
[14:13] <Elko> vista! my eyes!
[14:13] <Metuchen> yes.
[14:13] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind/force them with the correct/ dsp at each reboot?
[14:13] <Metuchen> grub will dual-boot vista just fin.
[14:13] <wizo> metuchen, thanks!
[14:13] <lodi> lol wizo, with beryl / compiz who needs vista?
[14:13] <WorkingOnWis1> FWIW, I am no Linux guru, but get by pretty good. I went back to 32 from 64 because it is harder to get support....just isnt as popular yet.... and I have no regrets....
[14:13] <wizo> now i'm not so afraid to break it now
[14:14] <wizo> lodi, lol, it's preloaded
[14:14] <Itaku> jrib: where does the source download to?
[14:14] <wizo> lodi, until im confident i can get all the drivers working, i think i'll stick with dual booting now
[14:14] <jrib> Itaku: current working directory
[14:14] <iNeo> abstrak: this is done with udev
[14:14] <lodi> formatting always works in xtrem  cases wizo
[14:14] <Metuchen> the biggest problem with 64-bit is with the proprietary apps like flash that don't compile for 64-bit
[14:14] <RodGo> hello 2 all, i need some help on routing all my outgoing traffic trough a proxy server
[14:14] <abstrak> a good udev wiki URL ?
[14:14] <lodi> whtats your config? wizo
[14:15] <RodGo> its because i want to download some xbox live region specific content
[14:15] <wizo> lodi, you mean using the recovery disk?
[14:15] <iNeo> RodGo: A proxy can't route
[14:15] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: any luck on the cpu initialization?
[14:15] <Metuchen> RodGo: what's your network look like?
[14:15] <wizo> lodi, my config, err, no idea. this is a laptop
[14:15] <lodi> no what 's inside the machine lol
[14:15] <wizo> i'm not even sure what wireless card this is using
[14:15] <wwomack> Question?    I am trying to add 7.10 to my HD on a full time basis.  My problem is the installers partition program is very criptic and I am not familiar with it at all,  My Main  "ONLY" partition is 136000 MB.  But WinXP resides there Oh it is an NTSF partition.  I want to make a 10 GB part. in that one that I can add Ubuntu on.  However it makes me feel that it will remove the current Partition and replace it with the new one.  How does t
[14:15] <RodGo> look i connect my xbox live directly to my PC
[14:15] <slipttees> howto install Chrome9 IGP ?
[14:15] <RodGo> and my pc is wireless to a router
[14:15] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow i am here now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:15] <gaE4> Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move ... i downloaded it to desktop, what to do now?
[14:15] <RodGo> i want to configure my pc, to route all traffic to a specific proxy
[14:16] <lodi> you can test all of that running the live system, bfore you install wizo
[14:16] <Metuchen> is this just for one machine?
[14:16] <RodGo> so i can download some Gears of Wars maps i cant download cuz i live at south america
[14:16] <Metuchen> is this just for http?
[14:16] <RodGo> no, xbox live uses another port
[14:16] <fantum13> Hello, all of my movies are playing as solid green with a few yellow lines. I have all the codecs installed and have played these files before, but now none of my movie files work in Totem, VLC, or Mplayer. Halp?
[14:17] <Metuchen> then you need a box standing directly "between" your xbox and your internet connection.
[14:17] <wizo> lodi, man i don't even knwo what graphics card i'm using
[14:17] <lodi> does it have documentation?
[14:17] <RodGo> xbox live is on port 3074
[14:17] <wizo> lodi, lol yea im gonna google it soon
[14:17] <RodGo> ill need a socks proxy right?
[14:17] <Metuchen> no.
[14:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there a way for me to get a secure shh account, ive been googling info on shh and found sites that offer shell accounts but i have no clue how secure it is?
[14:18] <lodi> video = ati? wizo
[14:18] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: is Windows 2000, xp, or vista installed?
[14:18] <slipttees> Chrome9 IGP + ubuntu 7.10 change resolution screen and active 2d or 3d ?
[14:18] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:18] <Elmo_> fantum13: something like this? http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/message/193194
[14:18] <Itaku> when i try to use sudo gedit i get this error
[14:18] <Itaku> apt-get source fortune-mod
[14:18] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: vista preloaded
[14:18] <Itaku> oops
[14:18] <RodGo> but first i need to know how to connect my pc to a proxy server at USA so it routes my traffic from xboxl ive
[14:18] <lodi> because that would have its drawbacks
[14:18] <Itaku> when i try to use sudo gedit i get this error
[14:18] <wizo> lodi, ey? totally no idea
[14:18] <Itaku> damnit cant copy
[14:18] <wizo> lodi, i'll have to search now
[14:18] <Metuchen> RodGo: correction, maybe yeah...but you'll need a box to redirect that traffic
[14:18] <RodGo> anyway i have a vps at Media Temple
[14:19] <wizo> it's a fujitsu S7211
[14:19] <Lovecats> hi all :D
[14:19] <gaE4> anyone can help me plz?
[14:19] <gaE4> i am at point 2.2 just installed the files for amd64 and now downloaded the .tar.bz2 file now i have problems with decompress etc. how to continue?
[14:19] <fantum13> Elmo_: No, green and solid instead of pink and static
[14:19] <gaE4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:19] <RodGo>  i just need to know what tools i can use at my local pc, and what program to install at my vps so i can do that connection trough proxy
[14:19] <lodi> wizo, when you run the dvd, you first enter a live session ( running linux from the dvd in a ramdrive)
[14:19] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: all your hardware info should be easy to find in device manager. It's how I find out beford I smoke a windows install. Make it tell me all I need to know to kill it!
[14:19] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: no, it's impossible as you can never actually trust an administrator, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[14:19] <Itaku> sudo: timestamp too fat in the furure: Mar 9 11:13:54 2008 <---- how do i fix that error?
[14:20] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: , lol. the device manager here aint telling me alot
[14:20] <Metuchen> Itaku: set your timezon.
[14:20] <Itaku> it is set
[14:20] <lodi> in that session  you can use all the tools necesary to check if everything works, and get thinbgs working if they dont
[14:20] <Lovecats> !ubuntu
[14:20] <ubotwo> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: display adapters say : mobile intel(r) 965 express chipset family
[14:21] <wizo> lodi, i should run the liveCD first?
[14:21] <lodi> just remember to enable all the repositories in package manager
[14:21] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: sorry. Havent smokes a Vista install. Seeing it on my sons laptop is what pushed me totally onto Ubuntu!
[14:21] <lodi> of course
[14:21] <Itaku> Metuchen: it is set
[14:21] <Lovecats> lol i got a brand new laptop yesterday and i used vista for like 10 mins :)
[14:21] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: thats a basic Intel 950 seried GPU. Well supported in Linux afaik
[14:21] <lodi> in the dvd the installer is a link on the desktop...
[14:22] <RodGo> what is a good proxy client i can install so i can route xbox live
[14:22] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:22] <lodi> yes
[14:22] <lodi> should work well
[14:22] <Metuchen> Lovecats: then you can't get your windows refund ;(
[14:22] <lodi> rest is probably intel too
[14:22] <Lovecats> rerund??
[14:22] <Itaku> Metuchen: my timezone is set
[14:22] <Lovecats> i can do a restore i hope :D
[14:22] <Metuchen> yeah...if you don't boot it, you can get a refund.
[14:22]  * WorkingOnWis1 agrees wizo
[14:22] <Lovecats> really?
[14:22] <Metuchen> yup.
[14:22] <vignesh> is iTunes wine compatible??
[14:22] <WorkingOnWis1> with lodi
[14:23] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: thanks :D
[14:23] <Lovecats> how do i do that?
[14:23] <DRebellion> !appdb | vignesh
[14:23] <ubotwo> vignesh: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:23] <Itaku> Metuchen: my timezone is set
[14:23] <Metuchen> small claims court :)
[14:23] <lodi> have no fear wizo, free yourself from the grasp of uncle bill, and demand a refund
[14:23] <Lovecats> lol
[14:23] <Metuchen> Itaku: start ntp.
[14:23] <wizo> hahaa
[14:23] <vignesh> ubotwo, ty
[14:23] <wizo> argh i cant find the specs for this laptop
[14:23] <Metuchen> but seriously, you *can* get a refund...and I'm told it can be done direct with MS.
[14:23] <slipttees> please guys :-(
[14:23] <Metuchen> (without court)
[14:23] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: but....check the wifi and be sure you kniw what it is... that has always been my biggest hurdle installing Ubuntu ...
[14:23] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:24] <Lovecats> ah
[14:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[14:24] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:24] <lodi> wizoi what brand is ur laptop?
[14:24] <wizo> lodi, fujitsu S7211
[14:24] <wwomack> ok guess not thanks very much.  maybe later
[14:24] <slipttees> i have Chrome9 IGP and ubuntu gutsy don't change screen resoution and 2d grafics :(
[14:24] <lodi> moment
[14:24] <wizo> but the ones on the site are the "enhanced" ones
[14:24] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:24] <Metuchen> then you need to st the date first.
[14:25] <wizo> not mine with  the T2330 dual core 1.6 processor thing
[14:25] <Metuchen> get it "close enough" then start ntp.
[14:25] <AlexC> Has anyone noticed that Thunderbirrd under ubuntu has become all but unusable?
[14:25] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:25] <AlexC> There is more wrong with thunderbird than right!
[14:26] <Lovecats> im thinking about getting a Compaq Presario laptop for my brother in general does Ubuntu do well on Compaqs? (i know this is a generic question)
[14:26] <Metuchen> Itaku: run the date command.
[14:26] <Itaku> god why cant i copy from terminal?
[14:26] <RodGo> please can someone help me? i want to do  a tunneling of my xbox live, trough my local pc, so that all traffic "seems" like its from USA
[14:26] <RodGo> any ideas pleas?
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Itaku, Add shift to the command
[14:26] <Metuchen> do you have a proxy in the US?
[14:26] <Itaku> the shift key or?
[14:27] <Itaku> i have comcast?
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Itaku, add shift to the command or read the pull down menu
[14:27] <Metuchen> terminal copy: CTRL+SHIFT+C
[14:27] <sinbox> AlexC don't say that I am about to install thundebird :(
[14:27] <Lovecats> can someone give me the link for Ubuntu hardware compatibility? please :D
[14:27] <RodGo> i have a vps in the us
[14:27] <RodGo> where i can setup a proxy server for this
[14:27] <AlexC> So much has been broken.
[14:27] <bazhang> Lovecats:  just a second
[14:27] <Itaku> it still doesnt work
[14:27] <Lovecats> ok thank you bazhang
[14:27] <AlexC> I find myself fighting with it constantly.
[14:28] <lodi> should be intel wireless, works by default wizo
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sinbox, Thunderbird has not given me any problems
[14:28] <Metuchen> RodGo: you could use an ssh tunnel and not have to worry about the protocol.
[14:28] <AlexC> I have reported the bugs months ago.
[14:28] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntux.org/linux-hardware-compatibility-list Lovecats
[14:28] <AlexC> They dont get fixed.
[14:28] <Lovecats> than kyu baz!!!!
[14:28] <RodGo> Metuchen: you know what tools i should install to setup my proxy server
[14:28] <Itaku> when i do date it shows the date and time
[14:28] <Metuchen> you'll need iptables, and ssh
[14:28] <RodGo> and how do i setup the tunneling from my local pc to the proxy server
[14:28] <Bad_boy> hello guys: how do i find out my cd-rom path
[14:28] <Metuchen> and a linux box with two ports.
[14:28] <sinbox> ah well I hope so Jack_Sparrow I need to import the profile from my windows machine on it with all my mail in there as well
[14:29] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i do date it shows the date and time
[14:29] <snypzz> still trying to network to windows xp shared folders...
[14:29] <gaE4> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[14:29] <gaE4> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[14:29] <gaE4> ???
[14:30] <wizo> lodi, i think i found the specs
[14:30] <wizo> it's in chinese
[14:30] <wizo> ..
[14:30] <Metuchen> Itaku: run: sudo date 03091030 (for eastern standard time)
[14:30] <Ashfire908> Do i have to do anything for daylight savings?
[14:30] <Metuchen> Ashfire: no.
[14:30] <snypzz> I see the windows pc's but unable to connect
[14:30] <Ashfire908> k
[14:30] <lodi> lol wizohttp://www.fujitsu-siemens.nl/products/mobile/notebooks/lifebook_s.html
[14:31] <snypzz> tcpip
[14:31] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i do it says timestamp too far in the future again
[14:31] <AlexC> Does anyone know a good alternative to Mozilla Thunderbird? I am not sure what happemned but ever since I upgrqaded my ubuntu to 7.10 thunderbird has become the worst program I have the displeasure of fighting with.
[14:31] <Metuchen> Itaku: dunno...
[14:31] <lodi> kmail perhaps alexc
[14:32] <Itaku> damnit stupid daylight savings time
[14:32] <RodGo> Metuchen: do you know how to configure iptables so that i can proxy my traffic to the vpn?
[14:32] <lodi> but have some experience with fujitsu hardware wizo and believe me by deafult maybe umts wont work but the rest will wizo
[14:32] <wizo> umts?
[14:32] <wizo> lodi, http://www.fujitsu.com/cn/services/hardware/pc/lifebook/s/s7211_specs.html
[14:33] <Metuchen> RodGo: yes...youll need to know the ports you're working with.
[14:33] <RodGo> xbox live is on port 3074
[14:33] <lodi> everything intel wizo
[14:33] <lodi> sound = realtek
[14:33] <Pensacola> can I just delete the .Xauthority dir in my home folder to get it recreated?
[14:33] <wizo> ok
[14:34] <wizo> so i should just do a run with my liveCD first?
[14:34] <AlexC> Does anyone know how to get the attention of the Thunderbird developers? They dont seem to read bug reports.
[14:34] <gaE4> plz anyone! i am at 2.2 downloaded and compressed the source and just created the folders. if i type autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make this comes: autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:34] <Metuchen> RodGo: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3074 -j DNAT --to-destination localhost
[14:34] <lodi> yes
[14:34] <wizo> wireless is intel yea?
[14:35] <lodi> and i expext everything to work
[14:35] <wizo> hope i get connections with it
[14:35] <wizo> lodi, i will try that right now
[14:35] <RodGo> Metuchen: i run that on my vps, right?
[14:35] <bazhang> AlexC: you might consider joining the mailing lists and air your complaints there or at the brainstorm.ubuntu.com site make some constructive suggestions ;]
[14:35] <wizo> hope to see you real soon, with irssi
[14:35] <lodi> ok fingers crossed wizo
[14:35] <lodi> lol
[14:35] <wizo> or whatever irc services they have
[14:35] <RodGo> and --to-destination == my actual ip, right
[14:35] <wizo> :D
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> AlexC, Please stop and move your discussion to offtopic
[14:35] <Metuchen> RodGo: then do "ssh -L 3074:<xbox-server>:3074 <user>@<remote-host>"
[14:35] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: any luck on my cpu core problem?
[14:36] <RodGo> xbox server?
[14:36] <Metuchen> RodGo: this must be on your "firewall" between your xbox and the internet.
[14:37] <grrrr2> I have proftp running on my ubuntu box and I try to share /media/disk. It doesn't work with symbolic links and I cannot set homedirectory to be /media/disk. Anyone know how to do this?
[14:37] <RodGo> wait, the ip tables command i must run on my vps to allow the routing from my local pc
[14:37] <Metuchen> grrrr: you need to use a "mount -o bind"
[14:37] <RodGo> but what you mean by <xbox-server>
[14:37] <RodGo> because i dont know the xbox servers ip
[14:37] <gaE4> what does configure.in and configure.ac do/mean?
[14:38] <Metuchen> RodGo: you'll need to figure that out unless your xbox can be setup to use a proxy.
[14:38] <Metuchen> RodGo: but you can use iptables's LOG target to figure it out.
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Do you have build-essential and your kernel headers installed
[14:38] <jrib> gaE4: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html
[14:39] <RodGo> can't i just install a program that redirects all traffic to a specific socks proxy
[14:39] <RodGo> someone told me to do that on windows, but i use ubuntu
[14:39] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow hmm..?
[14:39] <RodGo> and i install a socks proxy on my vps
[14:39] <Metuchen> RodGo: problem is, your XBox would have to know how to use a socks proxy.
[14:40] <Metuchen> the ssh tunnel will "transparently" tunnel the traffic without caring about the underlying protocool.
[14:40] <hameed> RodGo: do you use a regular monitor?
[14:40] <slipttees> Chrome9 HC IGP work in gutsy ?
[14:40] <RodGo> monitor?
[14:40] <hameed> RodGo: what kind of display device do you use for your xbox?
[14:40] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow u read what i wrote before? this could help understand my problem.
[14:40] <bullgard4> In what file will Tracker store its indices?
[14:40] <jrib> bullgard4: ~/.cache/tracker/
[14:40] <RodGo> a tv
[14:41] <hameed> RodGo: isn't the resolution too low?
[14:41] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: try cat /proc/*cpu* and report how many cores you see
[14:41] <hameed> RodGo: is it possible to connect an xbox to a regular pc monitor?
[14:41] <RodGo> the problem is that this guys from microsoft are nazis with their content, so i cant download some maps for Gears Of Wars because i live in south america
[14:41] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Yes, it looks like you are trying to compile a program (Assuming Nero)  and to do that you need what I already suggested
[14:41] <Pirate_Hunter> hello
[14:42] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: just one. processor     :0
[14:42] <whitekidney> Can anyone recommend a good program for making new partitions and resizing?
[14:42] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a way to get my nokia n73 to be picked up by vbox, i have installed the phone applications but vbox just gives me errors
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gparted
[14:42] <hameed> whitekidney: gparted
[14:42] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: is this intel or amd?
[14:43] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you very much for your help. --  I found them on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer.
[14:43] <whitekidney> thanks
[14:43] <RodGo> hey Metuchen, cant i do something like this "ssh -L 3074:*:3074 <user>@<remote-host>"
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: gparted is graphical and easy to use
[14:43] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: amd turion x2
[14:43] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow where can i see if i have already installed the build-essential and my kernel headers
[14:43] <whitekidney> hameed: does it support winxp?
[14:43] <RodGo> so that it redirects all traffic from that port to my vps
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: yes it does
[14:43] <Metuchen> RodGo: the "*" won't work.
[14:43] <whitekidney> free?
[14:43] <whitekidney> hameed : is it free?
[14:43] <cromag> hmm, i'm in xubuntu and having issues with restricted drivers. It will not get enabled. anyone had the same issue and got through with it ? :)=
[14:43] <Lovecats> hi can someone tell me if the NVidia Geforce 7000M is generally supported with Ubuntu
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You would know if you already installed them
[14:43] <Metuchen> RodGo: and you'll need to redirect the traffic to that ssh tunnel.
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: i've been writing to my winxp ntfs partition for 2 years now
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[14:44] <ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: without a problem
[14:44] <Pirate_Hunter> hmmm wrong channel *oops
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: ofcourse it is free
[14:44] <RodGo> ok i got the xbox live ip
[14:44] <RodGo> its 65.59.234.161
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: you can install it using the package manager (applications > add.remove)
[14:44] <whitekidney> Why doesnt ubuntu give me a chance to resize and make a new partition when installing it?
[14:44] <Metuchen> RodGo: ssh -L <port>:65.59.234.161:<port> <user>@<US-remote-host>
[14:44] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow ah if u mean this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d yeah i installed i am at the 1st grey box u can see there;D
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> whitekidney, it does
[14:45] <whitekidney> It does not.
[14:45] <hameed> whitekidney: yeah, that's the only place where ubuntu annoyed me
[14:45] <Metuchen> rodgo: then use iptables to point your Xbox traffic to that ssh tunnel.
[14:45] <RodGo> and on the US remote host i run this
[14:45] <RodGo> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3074 -j DNAT --to-destination localhost
[14:45] <slipttees> I Have VIA Chrome9 HC IGP. On a native 1024x768 screen I am stuck with 800 x 600 resolution and no graphics acceleration, somewhere can help me ?
[14:45] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: no it doesn
[14:45] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: no it doesn't
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You are running 64bit...
[14:45] <gaE4> Jack_sparrow yeah
[14:45] <RodGo> and then how i undo changes on my vps
[14:46] <Metuchen> RodGo: both those need to be run on your linux-based firewall.
[14:46] <Metuchen> RodGo: not the Us-based server.
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hameed, The Uubntu live cd installer has a built in partitiong program and the partition editor is also available in the admin menu
[14:46] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: the fix I remember another user did was to put in the boot parameters acpi=off and also to adjust the bios so that the cool n' quiet (or somesuch) was disabled and for him it was fixed; dont know if this will help you or not: the thread on that is here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645791&page=3
[14:46] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, you're right
[14:46] <whitekidney> hameed : Can you recommend any good programs for resizing and making partitions INSIDE windows XP ?
[14:46] <gavi> folks where can i look, or what can i search to learn to restart a service on startup ~ubuntu 7
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:47] <hameed> whitekidney: it does, administration > partition editor
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> whitekidney, One of the best is Partition MAgic
[14:47] <RodGo> Metuchen: iptables v1.3.6: Bad IP address `localhost'
[14:47] <whitekidney> hameed: in windows xp! :p
[14:47] <whitekidney> Thanks jack
[14:47] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: so are all Ubuntu kernels nowadays SMP?
[14:47] <Metuchen> RodGo: then use "127.0.0.1" instead of localhost.
[14:47] <hameed> whitekidney: buy partition magic
[14:48] <jrib> gaE4: pastebin the output of 'ls; autoreconf -isvf'
[14:48] <bazhang> the generic one is WorkingOnWis1; capable of supporting smp that is
[14:48] <hameed> whitekidney: I personally run xp in virtualbox which is free
[14:48] <whitekidney> virtual pc?
[14:48] <whitekidney> imo that sucks
[14:48] <hameed> whitekidney: for me it's convenient, i only use xp for compiling for win32
[14:49] <hameed> whitekidney: what's more xp runs faster in virtualbox!!!
[14:49] <seanbello> how do i typecurly brackets in gedit?
[14:49] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: ok. thanks a bunch. Man, this thing Is fast! I only noticed it because I couldn't get the second cpu graph in System Monitor!
[14:50] <whitekidney> hameed : Do ya want to help me installing drivers and stuff ? :p
[14:50] <Metuchen> seanbello: SHIFT+[ doesn't work for you?
[14:50] <seanbello> no
[14:50] <hameed> whitekidney: wish i could, but i'm a noob
[14:50] <whitekidney> hameed : youre not a noob :p
[14:51] <hameed> whitekidney: i do maintain some debian packages but for the under the hood stuff i'm a noob
[14:51] <whitekidney> i remember jack sparrow helped me long ago :D
[14:51] <whitekidney> when my name was Spzatt :p
[14:51] <tntcoda> hi, if i have vnc server running and can access it locally but not externally. What do i need to enable? The ports are forwared and hosts.allow is correct
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:51] <Lovecats> how do determine my battery life remaining (on this laptop running ubu 7.10)
[14:51] <Metuchen> tntcoda: be sure you don't have a firewall enabled.
[14:52] <Metuchen> tntcoda: try iptables -vL
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: there is the battery monitor
[14:52] <Lovecats> oh lol
[14:52] <Lovecats> sorry
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: right click the top panel
[14:52] <Lovecats> im 1/2 asleep :D
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: then, add to panel
[14:52] <tntcoda> I dont Metuchen :( i was wondering if it could be a vnc config issue?
[14:52] <Lovecats> its already there rofl (no coffee yet) :D
[14:53] <whitekidney> i got a question, when downloading keyloggers from websites when browsing, will it be like.. putting a swedish guy in japan, like he doesnt know where the *beep* he is?
[14:53] <Metuchen> tntcoda: dunno offhand...
[14:53] <hameed> Lovecats: :D
[14:53] <s0u][ight> hello i got a question what are differences between a wubi installed and a boot installed ubuntu
[14:53] <s0u][ight> gusty
[14:54] <cpainchaud> hello
[14:55] <wizo> lodi?
[14:55] <hameed> what are the most linux compatible laptop brands?
[14:56] <cpainchaud> my DELL  has its harware 100% compatible right now :D
[14:56] <Metuchen> hameed: they're all compatible...just stay away from the "esoteric" hardware...
[14:56] <hameed> I got compaq and am happy with it, but I'm going to buy a new one
[14:56] <cpainchaud> had anyone noticed that amarok eats 10% CPU while idling ?
[14:56] <hameed> what about mac books?
[14:56] <solexious> [Q] How can I place a link on my desktop to a folder?
[14:56] <wizo> lodi: i'm using the liveCD right now :D
[14:56] <Metuchen> hameed: should work just fine, but I haven't tried it.
[14:56] <hameed> Metuchen: what do you mean "esoteric"?
[14:56] <ryanakca> cpainchaud: no... doesn't do that here... by idling you mean not playing? It might be rescanning your collection
[14:57] <CapaH> Does anyone here have an IPHONE, and do you know if you can get music/video on it with Linux ?
[14:57] <Metuchen> hameed: sony tends to put really weird hardware that nobody else uses in their machines...
[14:57] <Metuchen> hameed: that stuff tends not to work.
[14:57] <cpainchaud> ryanakca: no my installation is brand new, nothing tho scan here, and HDD is not working now
[14:57] <cpainchaud> and yes i mean not playing
[14:57] <ryanakca> cpainchaud: heh, odd ;)
[14:57] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[14:58] <lodi> hey wizo
[14:58] <cpainchaud> I am using ubuntu 8 ....
[14:58] <hameed> Metuchen: hmm... I booted a sony vaio with knoppix and the wireless and ethernet got recognized out of the box
[14:58] <cpainchaud> i know its not stable :D but still ... its odd :d
[14:58] <lodi> wifi i presume?
[14:58] <wizo> lodu :D yea wifi!
[14:58] <lodi> out of the box? wizo
[14:58] <wizo> i clicked on that icon and it listed the wireless networks
[14:58] <wizo> i was shocked :O
[14:58] <lodi> lol
[14:59] <IceWewe> is there a package I can install to enable CPU frequency scaling without recompiling the kernel?
[14:59] <lodi> it does that to a person wizo
[14:59] <wizo> one word was screaming in my mind, and that was "sweet"
[14:59] <Metuchen> hameed: yeah...those things tend to be fine, but in my experience, some of the "multimedia" stuff won't work well.
[14:59] <lodi> hhhhhhhh
[14:59] <hameed> Metuchen: i see
[14:59] <wizo> now i gotta run some videos to see how it goes
[14:59] <Blissex> IceWewe: what does that mean? Which kernel?
[14:59] <lodi> now you can click the installer icon and start installing wizo
[14:59] <sherkin> Hi,
[14:59] <wizo> haha
[14:59] <IceWewe> Blissex: 2.6.24-10-generic
[14:59] <wizo> but i needa go resize a partition
[14:59] <sherkin> I'm puzzled with gpilot
[15:00] <lodi> and while that runs you can just keep chatting
[15:00] <hameed> Metuchen: next time i wanna try macbooks since os x is itself kind of unix...
[15:00] <Blissex> IceWewe: why would you want to recompile that?
[15:00] <Avenger> hello, i can't ignore, what am i doing wrong?
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: I'd like to throttle the two CPUs on the machine in question to run at a lower speed/voltage
[15:00] <lodi> what kind of a partition?
[15:00] <sherkin> I can't configure it to synchronize
[15:00] <Blissex> IceWewe: the standard Ubuntu kernels have CPU scaling built in.
[15:00] <hameed> Metuchen: ubuntu on mac book
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: to include a userspace governor
[15:00] <wizo> fujitsu split my hdd into 2
[15:00] <wizo> one for C, and i have another D drive
[15:00] <Metuchen> hameed: it should work fine, but I haven't tried.
[15:00] <sherkin> Here are some commands I tried
[15:00] <wizo> so i guess i'm gonna split the D
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: do I have to load a module? My CPUs are not currently being throttled
[15:00] <sherkin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59001
[15:01] <lodi> what size is that, and what filesystem wizo?
[15:01] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[15:01] <wizo> lodi, each is now about 75
[15:01] <sherkin> Could someone help me ?
[15:01] <wizo> and most probably ntfs
[15:01] <Blissex> IceWewe: probably because they can't. CPU scaling is autodetected by Ubuntu.
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: both cpufreq and powernowd refuse to scale
[15:01] <wizo> so i gotta shrink the D and create err, E ?
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: but I happen to know that these CPUs can be throttled
[15:01] <wizo> a,b,c,d,e
[15:01] <Blissex> IceWewe: try using 'cpufreq-info' and 'cpufreq-set' to check things.
[15:01] <wizo> guess it would be e
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: this machine has two Xeons in it
[15:02] <Blissex> IceWewe: Not so sure that you can scale Xeons, the ACPI and chipset have to support it.,
[15:02] <wizo> oh btw one questoin, i have a dual core here
[15:02] <wizo> does it matter?
[15:02] <IceWewe> Blissex: "No cpufreqd socket found"
[15:02] <lodi> no it wotrks hhh
[15:02] <gavi> folks where can i look, or what can i search to learn to restart a service on startup ~ubuntu 7
[15:02] <gerro> anyone here have trouble with 7.10 and nvidia 7300gs?
[15:02] <Blissex> IceWewe: then perhaps you haven't started the scaling daemon.
[15:02] <lodi> let me think
[15:03] <Blissex> IceWewe: what happens if you just say 'sudo cpufreq-set -g conservative'
[15:03] <IceWewe> Blissex: "22460 ?        Ssl    0:00 cpufreqd"
[15:03] <dda> hi people! is there a way to use webcam installed on another machine? I mean use in ekiga, skype, etc..
[15:03] <lodi> i think the smartest thing to do is boot vista , see what these c and partitions are wizo
[15:03] <IceWewe> Blissex: "wrong, unknown or unhandled CPU?"
[15:03] <wizo> lodi, C is where the OS is installed, D has nothing in it
[15:03] <Blissex> IceWewe: bad news...
[15:03] <solexious> [Q] How can I place a link on my desktop to a folder?
[15:04] <wizo> execpt a folder called "my work"
[15:04] <IceWewe> Blissex: so no CPU/chipset ACPI support...
[15:04] <gerro> gavi: apt-get install sysvconf and run that
[15:04] <Blissex> IceWewe: have you had a look at 'cpufreq-info'?
[15:04] <IceWewe> Blissex: "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[15:04] <hameed> drag and drop holding down the middle mouse button
[15:04] <gerro> gavi: it allows you to manage startup services "init" with the sys v style ubuntu uses
[15:04] <tremby> any ideas why i might suddenly be getting no sound in my front-right channel? i haven't done any updates today and last night it was fine. i've verified that it's the soundcard's output rather than the speaker or amplifier.
[15:04] <lodi> then you start the installer, remove the d partition, and have the installer automatically partition the free space
[15:04] <sherkin> Could someone help me with Palm/gpilot configuration ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59001/
[15:04] <sherkin> TIA
[15:04] <hameed> solexious: drag and drop holding down the middle mouse button then add link
[15:05] <wizo> lodi, so it can partition the D drive by itself? even if it's 75 gig ntfs right now?
[15:05] <solexious> hameed: thank you
[15:05] <Blissex> IceWewe: well, looks like it is not supported. As a last resort try 'modprobe acpi-cpufreq'
[15:05] <hameed> solexious: drag and drop with the middle button
[15:05] <lodi> yes
[15:05] <wizo> there's a folder in there, should i be worried about it?
[15:05] <mariamystar> hi,i have a small sound issue. my sound seems to work fine, but when i try to use programs such as hydrogen or ardour the sound isnt working. i do have a jack session started so i'm not sure what the problem is
[15:05] <lodi> no
[15:05] <gerro> wizo: you trying to resize an ntfs partition?
[15:05] <IceWewe> Blissex: error, no such module...
[15:06] <gavi> grrrr2,  thanks
[15:06] <Blissex> IceWewe: but you should investigate if your motherboard support scaling at all, and then which Linux driver may support it. Xeon looks like not so hot :-).
[15:06] <wizo> or should i create a "E" and then use the 30gig E partiton for ubuntu
[15:06] <G3N10U5> greetings everyone :)\
[15:06] <wizo> gerro, nah, just wondering if i should use the windows app to create another partitoin or just use the installer to
[15:06] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesnt open up what should i do?
[15:06] <TameLion> ello o/
[15:06] <Blissex> IceWewe: that's very odd. do 'ls "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq" so see what you got.
[15:06] <solexious> hameed: Cool, that didnt work but both left and right did, ty
[15:07] <diesello> ello
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: cannot access, no such file or directory
[15:07] <Metuchen> 'lo
[15:07] <G3N10U5> how is ppl ?
[15:07] <amenado> does booting of copied liveCD iso into a hard disk requires this partition to be EXT2 only? I can not get it to work using EXT3 ..
[15:07] <IceWewe> G3N10U5: not bad
[15:07] <gerro> wizo: I wouldn't trust the windows app because what windows user that doesn't use a laptop you know of that has more than one partition?
[15:07] <Blissex> IceWewe: are your kernel packages installed correctly? Doesn't look like.
[15:07] <G3N10U5> excellent
[15:07] <s0nix> hi, im searching a combo apps for burning DVD to DVD. (like DVD Decryptor and Shrink  on windows)
[15:07] <ompaul> !hi | G3N10U5
[15:07] <G3N10U5> never been here before
[15:07] <hameed> solexious: np
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: I don't know... this is pretty much a stock install
[15:07] <G3N10U5> woke up early, decided to explore
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: if it matters at all, this is 8.04 beta...
[15:07] <Blissex> gerro: it does not matter because you can always convert 'ext2' to 'ext3'
[15:08] <ompaul> !hi | G3N10U5
[15:08] <TameLion> G3N10U5: it's a strange and wonderful place..
[15:08] <lodi> sry wizo phone
[15:08] <G3N10U5> :) ola
[15:08] <Blissex> IceWewe: Ahhhh, you are a developer. Then you know what you are doing, and I cannot help :-).
[15:08] <wizo> gerro, ey? i was thinking of the partitioner that comes with vista
[15:08] <gavi> gerro, i dont have the package.. what do i add to get this in my respitry
[15:08] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[15:08] <G3N10U5> strange and wonderful
[15:08] <G3N10U5> sounds good to me
[15:08] <wizo> lodi, it's ok :D
[15:08] <lodi> i would delete the d partition
[15:08] <gerro> Blissex: no clue what you talking about
[15:08] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesn't open up what should i do?
[15:08] <IceWewe> Blissex: pff, me, a developer? Don't I wish.
[15:08] <lodi> and have the installer partition the free space t its needs
[15:08] <Blissex> gerro: then why are you using unreleased software? :-)
[15:08] <ubotwo> G3N10U5: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:08] <gerro> wizo: try gpart
[15:09] <wizo> lodi, you've been here for quite a while yea? i recall seeing you here when i was using ubuntu 6.04 or something
[15:09] <wizo> lodi, hmmm
[15:09] <Blissex> IceWeve: why are you using unreleased software? :-)
[15:09] <G3N10U5> im a student, workin my way up, tryin to learn what i can, but i'll try to rtfman first and not ask dumb questions
[15:09] <amenado> does booting of copied liveCD iso into a hard disk requires this partition to be EXT2 only? I can not get it to work using EXT3 ..
[15:09] <IceWewe> Blissex: because I didn't want to have to upgrade Mythbuntu in April...
[15:09] <lodi> lol
[15:09] <gavi> gerro, i dont have the package.. what do i add to get this in my respitry
[15:09] <gerro> wizo: I mean gparted
[15:09] <wizo> but i want some space for my windows too
[15:09] <lodi> thats the 75 other gigs
[15:09] <narothepharoh> whats a good program other than devede to convert video files?
[15:09] <Blissex> IceWewe: also note that there is '#Ubunt+1' channel IIRC
[15:09] <IceWewe> Blissex: yes, I'm aware of that...
[15:09] <gerro> wizo: if its not in your repository then your not running ubuntu
[15:09] <wizo> awww, i dont wanna put my back up things with C drive
[15:09] <bazhang> G3N10U5: this is not that kind of channel; if you have an issue please ask away ;]
[15:10] <wizo> cause if i format i'll be formatting C
[15:10] <ompaul> IceWewe, that is for ----all--- hardy support ;-)
[15:10] <wizo> lol
[15:10] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesn't open up what should i do?
[15:10] <bazhang> potato: how did you reinstall it and why?
[15:10] <mariamystar> i'm having trouble getting sound to work with certain applications. anybody got any ideas?
[15:10] <potato> add remove
[15:10] <IceWewe> ompaul: yup, I'm aware of that. But there are more people giving advice in here ;-)
[15:10] <lodi> and ehat you could also do is create in the free space a /data or so using fat32
[15:10] <konami> hola
[15:10] <potato> and why becouse it wouldent work in the frst place bazhang
[15:10] <G3N10U5> actually just got 2 new boxes the other day, server2003r2 installed fine, unbuntu server 7 had a weird error and didn't do **** all... redhat enterprise 5 installed fine tho
[15:10] <IceWewe> ompaul: besides, scaling should be independent of version...
[15:10] <lodi> vista and ubuntu can then share that
[15:11] <bazhang> IceWewe: best to listen to that advice...
[15:11] <wizo> quite true
[15:11] <IceWewe> bazhang: yeah, I'm in ubuntu+1 too....
[15:11] <dda> is there a way to use webcam installed on another machine?
[15:11] <wizo> i better go take a look at what is in the D drive again
[15:11] <wizo> brb!
[15:11] <lodi> good luck
[15:11] <ompaul> IceWewe, +1 for you after all if they break it they will know first
[15:11] <wizo> :d
[15:11] <wizo> :D
[15:12] <IceWewe> ompaul: yup...
[15:12] <Blissex> IceWewe: also try 'apt-file search acpi-cpufreq'
[15:12] <bazhang> potato: and does not work? could you please be precise? do you have the proper 3D drivers for your card installed and how did you start compiz up etc
[15:12] <Avenger> dda, nobody here will tell you how to gain control of some other PC's webcam
[15:12] <G3N10U5> lol
[15:12] <CapaH> Does anyone here know how to get itunes to work with ubuntu?
[15:12] <gerro> Avenger: why not? I have a remote webcam over http its rather nice
[15:13] <gerro> Avenger: there also some tricks with webcams and voip you can use very fun ^^
[15:13] <potato> ok at first it worked fine bazhang but i installed the floting windows screensaver and it startting acting up from ther
[15:13] <IceWewe> gerro: privacy
[15:13] <Avenger> because he/she could use it to spy over some poor bastard
[15:13] <dda> Avenger, IceWewe - no
[15:13] <gerro> IceWewei: if they standing in front of your webcam on your property then is no such thing :P
[15:13] <G3N10U5> there are trojans which will allow for remote connections, sometimes without someone knowing... or you can use a remote access program if you intend to do it legally
[15:13] <dda> both PCs are mine
[15:13] <dda> on the same LAN
[15:13] <IceWewe> dda: then install a webcam daemon
[15:14] <G3N10U5> ^
[15:14] <dda> but webcam is buggy in linux, so I thought I could install it on other PC (windows) and use as networked
[15:14] <martiini> how do I open console in kde4 dolphin?
[15:14] <Avenger> G3N10U5, i don't know what "legally" meanbs for you,  but even using a remote access program is illegal in all Europe
[15:14] <G3N10U5> some PC webcam programs broadcast on a port
[15:14] <gerro> dda: yeah dda that sounds good but why you asking here though this isn't a windows chat
[15:14] <G3N10U5> and you can connect to the computer
[15:14] <G3N10U5> and see the broadcast
[15:15] <G3N10U5> or they upload a stream or a series of images to a web server somewhere
[15:15] <G3N10U5> and then you visit another website to access that
[15:15] <gerro> dda: I've found very few nice windows programs for webcams perhaps someone wrote some oss stuff cross compiled can check though
[15:15] <IceWewe> Blissex: ok, I have a list of kernels... but I also have this file in my kernel...
[15:15] <dda> gerro, because I want to know if I can use such networked webcam in linux applications (ekiga for example)
[15:15] <G3N10U5> all are doable from linux without any more configuration
[15:15] <lodi> wait a minute remote acces software illegal?
[15:15] <Dojo> sory for the off topic question but is it okay to start a computer without a cpu, as in is it dangerous i need to do this to see if my cpu is broken
[15:15] <IceWewe> lodi: if it's installed on a foreign computer without the users consent, yes
[15:15] <lodi> ok
[15:15] <martiini> irc://irc.parcplace.net/dolphin
[15:16] <G3N10U5> how does that help you see if your CPU is broken
[15:16] <Avenger> lodi, unless you've the consentment of the owner of the remote pc,YES, illegal
[15:16] <gerro> dda: you probably can but what webcam is it anyway? I might know how to get it working on linux
[15:16] <lodi> i work nwith that sort off stuff so i was a bit shocked
[15:16] <IceWewe> Blissex: the problem is, as I see it, there's some other module that either A) Needs to be loaded before acpi-cpufreq or B) Another module is blocking the loading of acpi-cpufreq
[15:16] <dda> gerro, it's Logitech Fusion, it is known as buggy on linux :(
[15:16]  * delcoyote hi
[15:16] <khamael> anybody here know of a good nes emulator for ubuntu?
[15:16] <Dojo> <G3N10U5 I juat want to know if its dangerous to start pc with no cpu
[15:16] <G3N10U5> then try a different webcam, lol
[15:16] <potato> lol
[15:17] <IceWewe> Dojo: I think you'll find that the computer won't start without a CPU
[15:17] <Blissex> IceWewe: if 'ls "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq"' does not list anything, you haven't got the right modules.
[15:17] <G3N10U5> your drives will power up
[15:17] <G3N10U5> and do nothing
[15:17] <Dojo> but will it damage the computer in any way if i try to start it
[15:17] <dda> G3N10U5, yes, thinking about it.
[15:17] <LukeL> Dojo, it's dangerous to handle the cpu itself without special tools, and starting without a cpu will do nothing
[15:17] <freeman163> i dont think so
[15:17] <IceWewe> Blissex: it's not i386, it's x86... for me, anyway.
[15:17] <gerro> Avenger: guess we should go sue the inventor of the camera then :)
[15:17] <Dojo> ok thanks thats all i neede
[15:17] <ompaul> Dojo, ##hardware might be a better place
[15:17] <Dojo> to know:D
[15:17] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[15:17] <narothepharoh> whats a good program other than devede to convert video files?
[15:17] <IceWewe> Blissex: 'ls "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq"' returns a list of files
[15:18] <dda> G3N10U5, but my webcam works fine in won, and it was quite expensive, so I decided to not give up :)
[15:18] <Avenger> Gerro, nope, the inventor or fdabricant is not responsible for the use of it
[15:18] <dda> in win
[15:18] <bazhang> narothepharoh: what guide did you use to do that, or was it just by guesswork?
[15:18] <Blissex> IceWewe: then why does 'modprobe acpi-cpufreq' say that the module does not exist?
[15:18] <G3N10U5> I don't think it will technically hurt your motherboard to try and "turn it on" without the CPU
[15:18] <Itaku> what is
[15:18] <Itaku> a good
[15:18] <Itaku> program
[15:18] <Itaku> that can
[15:18] <Itaku> broadcast mp3's
[15:18] <Itaku> over shoutcast?
[15:18] <FloodBot1> Itaku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <IceWewe> Blissex: 'FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.24-10-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): Device or resource busy'
[15:19] <Itaku> ...
[15:19] <LukeL> yes ...
[15:19] <narothepharoh> bazhang: I just used the default settings, I have the same program on my other computer and it works fine?
[15:19] <Blissex> IceWewe: Ahhh. That's not quite module missing.
[15:19] <Avenger> "your keyboard is not working, please press any key"
[15:19] <IceWewe> Blissex: yes, quite...
[15:19] <G3N10U5> you wont see anything
[15:19] <juna> can anyone tell me how to remove the volume icons in desktop in gnome
[15:19] <G3N10U5> obviously
[15:19] <G3N10U5> it wont be using ram
[15:20] <vignesh> i have realplayer 11 installed in my ubuntu box.. but the ".rm" files are opened in default in totem.. how do i change the default to realplayer???
[15:20] <freeman163> hmm, the text-based installer doesnt seem to be working
[15:20] <G3N10U5> so nothing will happen
[15:20] <G3N10U5> but you can "turn it on"
[15:20] <G3N10U5> it wont help you diagnose anything really...
[15:20] <Blissex> IceWewe: well, "error, no such module..." is very different forom "Device or resource busy".
[15:20] <bazhang> narothepharoh: okay, just wanted to see if you had done this before; could it be an issue with the source files you used?
[15:20] <freeman163> it says random files are corrupted, but only 1/3rd of the time.
[15:20] <arvind> hello am nt able to see the contents of sda1
[15:20] <Avenger> vignesh, right click on one ram file, go to properties
[15:20] <IceWewe> Blissex: yes, I'm aware of that now... perhaps I mis-spoke
[15:20] <Avenger> and check the section of "open always with", or something
[15:20] <vignesh> Avenger, ya.. then ??
[15:21] <Blissex> IceWewe: perhaps the chipset is not supported or indeed another cpufreq module is trying to access it.
[15:21] <Avenger> and then choose your soft
[15:21] <gerro> dda: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205782 seems your cam might work with the basic spca drivers but you'll have to compile them and tell them which system id your camera is (do lsusb and its the second part of that mac)
[15:21] <potato> bazhang your back! ok compiz fusion works fine on my laptop its just i went to install a floting screensavor program i forgot how i did that but it dident work how can i make sure everything compiz fusion is uninstalled so i can get the advaced graphics windows to show up agen
[15:21] <vignesh> Avenger, ya got it..
[15:21] <Blissex> IceWewe: it is often the 'cpufreq-centrino' one. Check with 'lsmod | grep cpufr'
[15:21] <vignesh> Avenger, ty
[15:21] <mariamystar> can someone help me with a small sound problem? it seems audio doesn't work through certain programs
[15:21] <arvind> hello am nt able to see the contents of sda1
[15:21] <jak-o> hi
[15:21] <jak-o> can anybody help me with an ipod touch?
[15:21] <juna> please can anyone tell me how to remove the volume icons in desktop in gnome
[15:21] <AquaFo1> I have Generic 11c1 Si3054 modem.. how to make it work under Gutsy?
[15:22] <Avenger> arvind, are you with root privs?
[15:22] <dda> gerro, thanks, I will look again, but i tried something like that before! I will let you know.
[15:22] <bazhang> potato: the advanced desktops effects manager is that what you are looking for? that is the ccsm iirc
[15:22] <IceWewe> Blissex: http://pastebin.com/m6171d195
[15:22] <mariamystar> juna: right click the icon and choose "remove from panel"
[15:22] <arvind> avenger::yeah i can be sudo
[15:22] <juna> mariamystar: there is no such option
[15:22] <[Soul]> i have a really odd problem.  my mouse cursor is really sluggish and jerky usually... but i tried playing a video w/ mplayer and suddenly my mouse is great... but only when the video is playing.  then it goes back to being sluggish when i close mplayer.  mythbuntu 7.10
[15:22] <Avenger> arvind, not if you can, if you ARE while trying to open the drive
[15:22] <arvind> avenger::am the only user
[15:22] <juna> mariamystar: i want to remove them from the desktop not from a panel
[15:22] <Blissex> IceWewe: looks like 'p4_clockmod' but I have never used it.
[15:22] <mariamystar> juna: that's strange, i see one for me.
[15:22] <AquaFo1> I have Generic 11c1 Si3054 as a codec for my modem how to use it?
[15:22] <gerro> dda: most the logitech cameras up until that version have worked fine I doubt they've changed much about their software, just fix the system id the driver uses to refer to the camera and it should work
[15:22] <arvind> avenger::no
[15:23] <IceWewe> Blissex: I loaded p4_clockmod manually...
[15:23] <Avenger> arvind, then you will not be able to
[15:23] <Blissex> IceWewe: try however 'rmmod p4_clockmod; modprobe acpi-cpufreq' as an alternative.
[15:23] <arvind> avenger::it was working all these days!!!!
[15:23] <potato> bazhang:  when i install that it shows up as the compiz config mananger instead of the advanced desktops effects manager
[15:23] <Avenger> open some file manager as root, or change the permissions of your general user
[15:23] <mariamystar> juna: i'm sorry i can't really help you then, i'm not a guru haha sorry
[15:24] <arvind> avenger::i ran live version of sabayon nd tried to mount tat partition
[15:24] <IceWewe> Blissex: http://pastebin.com/m59624c7b
[15:24] <Blissex> IceWewe: also try 'speedstep-ich'.
[15:24] <IceWewe> Blissex: 'insmod: error inserting 'speedstep-ich.ko': -1 No such device'
[15:24] <[Soul]> anybody?
[15:24] <potato> bazhang: when i click on the compiz config mananger nothing comes up ive reinstalled it manny times and rebooted too
[15:24] <Blissex> IceWewe: anyhow check the results from http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=xeon+p4-clockmod
[15:24] <dda> gerro, the camera suffers from "reset bug", in UVC driver.
[15:24] <bazhang> potato: that is very odd; what happens when you alt f2 compiz --replace ?
[15:24] <Avenger> dda, Logitech webcams were the first to give away their drivers as open source to gain compatibility with Linux, i seriously doubt you'll have problmes due to their soft
[15:24] <juna> mariamystar: anyone that can help me to remove sda2 volume icon from desktop. i am using gnome and ubuntu feisty
[15:25] <potato> i donno ill try that
[15:25] <DeanGrobler> Has anyone ever installed guituner
[15:25] <hameed> juna: what's your problem
[15:25] <Itaku> what is a good program for broadcasting mp3's over a shoutcast server?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[15:25] <gerro> dda: has anyone posted a patch for that bug yet?
[15:25] <juna> hameed: i want to remove an volume icon from the desktop in gnome
[15:25] <IceWewe> Itaku: shoutcast?
[15:25] <gerro> dda: maybe some way you can deny its resets
[15:25] <bazhang> Itaku: please fewer question marks
[15:26] <juna> hameed: but i can not send it to trash and there is no option to remove it
[15:26] <gerro> dda: do you have the link to the bug report?
[15:26] <potato> ooo
[15:26] <stefano> !list
[15:26] <potato> bazhang the screen goes blank
[15:26] <freeman163> bah.
[15:26] <dda> gerro, yes, and I tried to apply it. after that luvcview (a program by UVC driver developer) works, and shows vieo, but skype and camorama do not
[15:26] <potato> and then it comes back after wile
[15:26] <hameed> juna: it's there for your convenience, i donno how to remove it, but it will be gone if you unmount the volume; right click the volume icon and click unmount
[15:26] <Itaku> what is a good program for broadcasting mp3's over a shoutcast server???
[15:26] <[Soul]> does mplayer put ubuntu into some kind of different mode when it runs?
[15:27] <rsk> mode?
[15:27] <hameed> juna: you cannot send it to trash, but i guess you can set gnome so that when a volume is mounted it's icon will not appear on the desktop
[15:27] <[Soul]> and is there a way i can stay in that mode because it appears to be a lot more responsive
[15:27] <Blissex> IceWewe: in particular this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86830 but there are several other interesting pages.
[15:27] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:27] <potato> bazhang well not blank it shows my background
[15:27] <juna> hameed: how can i do that to set gnome
[15:27] <IceWewe> Blissex: this is a dual processor machine, that could have something to do with it...
[15:27] <bazhang> potato: sounds like the video drivers are not properly set up; what card ati/nvidia and how did you install the drivers--card number also please
[15:27] <stercor> How do I get a blank desktop when I change desktops?
[15:27] <hameed> juna: donno
[15:27] <Itaku> what is a good program for broadcasting mp3's over a shoutcast server???
[15:27] <grrrr2> i want to install ubuntu on a usb hd. Can I do this by the normal install process?
[15:27] <arvind> avenger::so wat to do now??
[15:27] <potato> bazhang intel chipset
[15:28] <narothepharoh> bazhang: I have tried 3 different .avi files none have worked I also burned a avi file to disc from this computer and converted it on my other comp and worked fine
[15:28] <magnetron> Itaku: icecast
[15:28] <juna> can anyone tell me how to remove the volume icons that i have in desktop in gnome please. its very important
[15:28] <friedtofu> anyone know how to changet the clock in xfce?
[15:28] <dda> gerro, here are some links related to the patch: http://osdir.com/ml/drivers.uvc.devel/2006-11/msg00040.html and http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/linux-uvc-devel/2007-April/001562.html
[15:28] <potato> bazhang the thing that coused all this was when i instlled the floating windows screensaver
[15:29] <Fat-head> heya
[15:29] <MaximusBrood> I have a dedicated server with remote boot-time shell access. I want to install Ubuntu (more specifically Xubuntu) by copying over the contents of the CD to the harddisk. The question is: can I do a non-graphical install with this method?
[15:29] <gavi> /etc/init.d/ispconfig_server restart   is this how i would restart ispconfig?
[15:29] <Avenger> arvind, go offline, then change the permissions for the user you use everyday, then try again then comeback to tell us
[15:29] <bazhang> potato: perhaps try uninstalling that; what card and what driver and how did you install the driver for that card
[15:30] <magnetron> narothepharoh: try avidemux
[15:30] <potato> bazhang: it was automatacly detected during install its a newer laptop soo i did not installs
[15:30] <oisuxx> is anyone here familliar with pikdev?
[15:30] <dda> gerro, I have to go now, will try after some time and let you know. thanks!
[15:30] <oisuxx> i was wondering if someone could help me out with it, in conjunction with a willem programmer
[15:30] <potato> bazhang i mean i did not install the driver
[15:31] <wifiwho> i want to start up the ubuntu graphical network configuration utility what is the command for that?
[15:31] <potato> ill look up how to uninstall the screensavor that might help
[15:32] <narothepharoh> magnetron: I will try that it is installing now.
[15:32] <Sinnerman> anyone use truecrypt, and when trying to format a truecrypt partition as ext3 have it hang/freeze? mine was across a usb drive.
[15:32] <bazhang> potato check what driver your card is using and please answer what card make and model
[15:32] <magnetron> !anyone | Sinnerman
[15:32] <ubotwo> Sinnerman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:32] <IceWewe> Blissex: this problem seems unresolved; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/163398
[15:32] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 163398 in ubuntu "CPU Frequency Throttling not working on Xeon EM64T" [Undecided,New]
[15:32] <potato> bazhang:  ok looking that up now
[15:32] <Avenger> Sinnerman, do it on fat
[15:32] <Avenger> happenned to me
[15:32] <Sinnerman> magnetron uh ok.
[15:32] <wifiwho> Sinnerman don't know know- you can always create a image on the fat32 partition though
[15:32] <Blissex> IceWewe: bad news indeed.
[15:33] <hameed> juna: try #gnoma
[15:33] <hameed> juna: try #gnome
[15:33] <DeanGrobler> I have gone to a few sites and I have downloaded it but not to sure haw to install it
[15:33] <Sinnerman> wifiwho Avenger er, yeah... but i specifically wanted the added features of ext3.
[15:33] <IceWewe> Blissex: looks like dual socket motherboard users are out of luck :(
[15:33] <Sinnerman> Avenger wifiwho note that on small partitions i had no problems. this was a 25GB partition.
[15:33] <hameed> juna: also try #nautilus
[15:33] <Itaku> what is a good program for broadcasting mp3's over a shoutcast server???
[15:33] <narothepharoh> magnetron: What program does that help? it is not its own program?
[15:33] <wifiwho> Sinnerman not really a good person to answer the question.
[15:34] <Blissex> IceWewe: that's entirely possible, because in general in dual sockets the two CPUs must run at the same speed and be identical, so it is a bit difficult to do
[15:34] <IceWewe> Blissex: ahh, yes, of course... but it should be able to throttle them to the same speed
[15:34] <magnetron> narothepharoh: avidemux is a separate, graphical program.
[15:34] <Sinnerman> wifiwho well, i was just really trying to find if people had come across that and if they'd found a workaround. thanks for trying anyway :).
[15:34] <Starnestommy> Itaku: maybe icecast2 or icecast-server
[15:34] <Blissex> IceWewe: but not at the very same instant, unless the chipset does it.
[15:34] <potato> bazhang: can you help me find the drivers i have the device info hear: Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[15:35] <IceWewe> Blissex: blast...
[15:35] <Avenger> Sinnerman, sorry, when i found the issue i just used fat instead
[15:35] <wifiwho> Sinnerman yea, my only solution is ext3 image on top of fat32 for that... so if it doesn't solve your problem i don't know.
[15:35] <bazhang> potato: those are intel correct? while compiz-fusion will work with those, it will be limited
[15:35] <Blissex> IceWewe: anyhow only recent power management has become available for server/desktop style machines.
[15:35] <potato> ok
[15:35] <Avenger> Sinnerman, and fat provides you with double negation, because you can hide the encrypted volume into another encrypted volume, then the first one becomes invisible and it's confused with random data
[15:36] <Sinnerman> wifiwho how do you mean ext3 on top of fat32? make a 25GB file inside the fat32 partition and mount that?
[15:36] <potato> bazhang: yes ther intel
[15:36] <sinbox> Itaku, IDJC or maybe muse for streaming to shoutcast
[15:36] <lodi> ati 9250 how do i get glx + dri working?
[15:36] <IceWewe> Blissex: I debate that. I've had some sort of throttling on my desktop (Athlon dual core) for almost 2 years now
[15:36] <Sinnerman> Avenger hmm... that's making _me_ confused :)... i'll google a bit for alternatives.
[15:36] <MaximusBrood> I have a dedicated server with remote boot-time shell access. I want to install Ubuntu (more specifically Xubuntu) by copying over the contents of the CD to the harddisk. The question is: can I do a non-graphical install with this method?
[15:36] <lodi> i read up on it and discovered that with the fglrx driver u get dri
[15:37] <potato> bazhang: it runs the cube fine i just guss i need to figure out how to ininstall the floting windows screensavor
[15:37] <lodi> wit the ati driver u get glx
[15:37] <bazhang> potato: so if you are going for some very radical 3D stuff with that card (writing fire compiz plugin etc) then there will be issues--I have that same card in my laptop and it is quite limited.
[15:37] <lodi> with both i get lousy benchmnark scores
[15:37] <wifiwho> Sinnerman yes. dd if=/dev/zero of=image.img;mkfs -t ext3 image.img;mount -o loop image.img /some/dir
[15:38] <lodi> cause i cant get em at the same time
[15:38] <hameed> #irlug
[15:38] <narothepharoh> magnetron: how do i run it?
[15:38] <IceWewe> Blissex: cpufreq-info states that the CPUs can be throttled independently of each other
[15:38] <potato> bazhang: ok ill rember that , i mainly just want transparnt cube and a few other things i dont nee to much
[15:38] <hameed> whoops
[15:38] <Sinnerman> on a slightly different note, is there an easy way to mount (eg. right click -> mount) the .iso file of a cd/dvd?
[15:38] <potato> r ember*
[15:38] <Blissex> IceWewe: some can, some cannot.
[15:38] <Sinnerman> wifiwho doesn't that render it slower?
[15:39] <bazhang> potato: well that is no issue, and apparently with the next release ( #ubuntu+1 ) Hardy those cards will be very well supported--so just hold out for a few more weeks ;]
[15:39] <potato> oh sweet
[15:39] <potato> can't wait
[15:39] <IceWewe> Blissex: oh, wow... it worked
[15:39] <Sinnerman> and is there a way to get fsck to display a percentage/progress bar while doing something like fsck -fv /dev/sdc1?
[15:39] <Blissex> IceWewe: you are too lucky.
[15:39] <hameed> bazhang: will the drivers be open source?
[15:39] <lodi> thats good news
[15:40] <Blissex> IceWewe: report that as a bug :-).
[15:40] <[Soul]> so.. nobody has any thoughts on my mouse issue?
[15:40] <ompaul> Sinnerman, fsck does display a progress bar
[15:40] <wifiwho> Sinnerman not likely. it makes it more aww susceptible though ...  for instance cause you have two sets of data that now can't be lost
[15:40] <lodi> i dont care open / closed as long as it wortks
[15:40] <lodi> but ati cant do what nvidia can do
[15:40] <bazhang> hameed: for the intel video cards? not sure but intel is generally the best supported Linux-wide and my own experiments with the Alpha (going offtopic now sorry) have been nice
[15:40] <lodi> make working drivers
[15:41] <Sinnerman> wifiwho aww?
[15:41] <lodi> i have an nvidia 6600 in this machine and it works very well
[15:41] <wizo> looodiiii
[15:41] <lodi> yes wizo?
[15:41] <wizo> ok i think there's nothing in the D partition
[15:41] <wizo> so i'm gonna do my installation now
[15:41] <wifiwho> Sinnerman the ideal situation is you would not put an image on top of partition unless you had some reason for it..
[15:41] <Sinnerman> ompaul umm... not while i've done it with fsck -vf /dev/sdc1. i know it does when you boot verbose though.
[15:41] <wizo> but i can continue chatting here now?
[15:42] <lodi> sure
[15:42] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[15:42] <lodi> remember to try compiz
[15:42] <wizo> try what?
[15:42] <IceWewe> Blissex: sooo, now it throttles, but it doesn't change the voltage, so really, I'm not saving any power/heat
[15:42] <wizo> compiz? what's that
[15:42] <krept> generally how many minutes will a 700mb cd hold?
[15:42] <lodi> compiz composite window manager
[15:42] <lodi> looks better than vista
[15:42] <IceWewe> krept: uhhh, 80?
[15:42] <Blissex> IceWewe: it will save a little bit.
[15:42] <lodi> bit is quite free
[15:43] <krept> ok IceWewe, that's what i'm lookin for :)
[15:43] <krept> except
[15:43] <krept> 80? or 80
[15:43] <krept> lol
[15:43] <Blissex> IceWewe: but it is quite naive to expect power savings out of P4 style Xeons.
[15:43] <oisuxx> can anyone help me with pikdev?
[15:43] <IceWewe> Blissex: oh, I know...
[15:43] <Avenger> ryanakca, i've a similar problme, but my cd/dvd drive is not recognized only wheh i try to use it to read while copying in the other drive, if i use it to read, copy to the hd and then copy to the other drive it works fine...
[15:43] <lodi> and i m curious if it works on an intel card
[15:43] <potato> bazhang: what kind of computer are you useing hp?//
[15:43] <wizo> ok now i hope it doesnt totally erase my D drive
[15:43] <wifiwho> Sinnerman you know that the current version of truecrypt does not support ext3 on linux... a future update will fix that.
[15:43] <arvind> hey i could find the drive contents,but its in /media/disk
[15:44] <lodi> because it did haltingly on the predecessor of your card
[15:44] <wizo> hope it creates a e drive and keeps my d drive
[15:44] <bazhang> potato: for laptop it is a thinkpad
[15:44] <ryanakca> Avenger: well, it isn't recognized at all here
[15:44] <izinucs> Avenger: maybe because they are on the same ide cable..
[15:44] <arvind> avenger::hey i could find the drive contents,but its in /media/disk
[15:44] <ompaul> Sinnerman, I read your command wrong - V is verbose but I don't know f - normally I use fsck -y and walk away
[15:44] <potato> bazhang:  i have a hp pavillion entertainment notebook
[15:44] <TEN> Where should I put the invocation of a process to be started right after the user has logged on to Gnome? Precisely, xawtv -c /dev/video1 ... preferably setting it to a size of 23*23 tiles
[15:44] <potato> i love thinkpads lol
[15:44] <bazhang> potato those are nice! but we are going offtopic ;]
[15:45] <potato> yep
[15:45] <wizo> im scared!
[15:45] <Avenger> izinucs, but the bios and the initial check recognizes both as different drives
[15:45] <lodi> just wipe the d , create a separate boot, root and swap partitions and a /home with fat32 filesystem
[15:45] <lodi> in vista /home will then be d:
[15:45] <bazhang> wizo then back up important data just in case ;]
[15:45] <wizo> it's got nothing in it
[15:45] <wizo> it's a new laptop
[15:45] <lodi> goes without saying
[15:45] <ompaul> wizo, you are offtopic for here - you choose what you want to happen to your machine and as bazhang said - back up whatever you care about
[15:45] <lodi> lol
[15:46] <wizo> ok ok
[15:46] <arvind> avenger::hey i could find the drive contents,but its in /media/disk
[15:46] <Avenger> arvind, ok, you found it now, so what's the problme?
[15:46] <izinucs> Avenger: doesn't matter.. some devices don't like to talk directly to each other when they are on the same ide cable.. could be they would work if you reversed their postiion on the cable or if you put on a different channel
[15:46] <arvind> avenger:but its nt thr in its proper place!!!!
[15:47] <Avenger> izinucs, sadly i don't have another channel (well, at least i don't have another cable to USe another channel)
[15:47] <arvind> avenger:i mean the contents should be displayed in sda1
[15:47] <wizo> lodi, i think i found the partition D
[15:47] <izinucs> Avenger: do you only have one ide connector on your motherboard?
[15:47] <wizo> so i gotta split it manually?
[15:47] <Avenger> arvind, ah ok...but first, have you got access to it?
[15:47] <xjkx> can i create many bootable distributions in a dvd ?
[15:47] <arvind> yeah i can
[15:48] <ThaRabbit> quick question about Xgl... as I understand it, using it means effectively disabeling 3d acceleration in games?
[15:48] <sn0> xjkx sure, its useful :)
[15:48] <xjkx> sn0, how
[15:48] <sn0> or a usb pen drive
[15:48] <Avenger> arvind, great, so the first problme is solved the other problme it's not for practical purposes but for visual experiences?
[15:48] <Avenger> :-P
[15:48] <lodi> you could also have the installer do it and then leave some free space for a new d:
[15:49] <arvind> avenger:so wat should i do to put it back in its place
[15:49] <Avenger> arvind, i've no bloody idea, sorry
[15:49] <wizo> lodi, cause i think i gotta select the manual, otherwise it'll use the whole 169 gig hd
[15:49] <sn0> xjkx there are guides on search engines.
[15:49] <wizo> 160*
[15:49] <lodi> or after the install create something like /data there and format that with fat32
[15:50] <Avenger> izinucs, so dfo you think that if i switch places on the ide cable it will work better? that should be very strange...
[15:50] <lodi> then manual it is
[15:50] <ThaRabbit> quick question about Xgl... as I understand it, using it means effectively disabeling 3d acceleration in games?
[15:51] <izinucs> Avenger: you won't know till  you try.. pay attention to the jumpers on the back.. make sure they are  set in  either master/slave position depending on cable  position.
[15:52] <Avenger> izinucs, sorry, but the master/slave will not be changed with the cable switch!!
[15:52] <izinucs> Avenger: it will with position  on the cable.. if it's not  the same.. ie end connector vs "other"  connector.
[15:53] <Kensan> Hit there. Is there a known working fix for gutsy fbcon issues ("blank screen when vga=791 etc" besides adding fbcon to initramfs?
[15:53] <Avenger> izinucs, ah, ok, i'll try that, thanks
[15:56] <potato> wow i got it to work!
[15:56] <potato> bazhang:  ty for the help
[15:56] <bazhang> potato nicely done! ;]
[15:57] <wizo> oh wait
[15:57] <wizo> do i delete the partition?
[15:57] <potato> i donno what i did tho lol
[15:57] <Gurpartap> how do you know the hd(x,x) like codes for each partitions?
[15:57] <Gurpartap> something like fdisk -l ?
[15:57] <[Soul]> can someone please help me?  i do a cat /proc/interrupts and see that i have 0 under both CPU for uhci_hcd:usb1 when mplayer is not running and my mouse is slow, but i have counts and a nice mouse when mplayer is running
[15:58] <izinucs> Gurpartap: blkid
[15:58] <izinucs> Gurpartap: mount
[15:59] <Gurpartap> izinucs, mount didnt help
[15:59] <vox> are there any programs to merge multiple swv files together?
[15:59] <Gurpartap> not blkid
[15:59] <n0dl> is there supposted to be a documentroot in apache2.conf? how am I supposed to change the document being served?
[15:59] <ThaRabbit> exit
[16:00] <vox> Gurpartap: "ls -la /dev/hd*"
[16:00] <Prefix> i have some serious issues with my multiple desktops. I have 2x2 desktops set, but when i use the desktop switcher it brings me to a whole new set of 2x2 desktops, any ideas of how to fix this?
[16:00] <KwisatzH> n0dl: check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[16:00] <n0dl> KwisatzH: ah
[16:01] <lodi> yes you delete the partition
[16:01] <Gurpartap> vox, brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-03-10 01:26 /dev/sda1
[16:01] <wizo> ok so how much space should i allocate
[16:01] <izinucs> Gurpartap: partitions in linux are typically (in ubuntu) sda1 sda2, sdb1 sdb2.. the "a" means drive one and the number represents the partition, "b" would be drive two and so on.
[16:01] <Gurpartap> vox, help me decode this?
[16:01] <Gurpartap> i know that
[16:01] <vox> Gurpartap: what are you wanting to know?
[16:01] <Gurpartap> i want them in the (hd0,0) format :)
[16:01] <vox> oh
[16:02] <kenny> hmmm, just installed the gutsy gibbon 7.10, whats my root password ? dont remember that i entered a root password. just my main user.
[16:02] <lodi> at least maybe 20 -30
[16:02] <hischild> !root | kenny
[16:02] <ubotwo> kenny: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:02] <Sinnerman> is there an easy way to mount (eg. right click -> mount) the .iso file of a cd/dvd?
[16:02] <wizo> ahh ok
[16:02] <wizo> so 20 for /home, 1 for swap and 1 for root?
[16:02] <kenny> ty
[16:02] <izinucs> Gurpartap: that's grubs format.. hd0,0 is harddrive 1 partition one.  hd1,1 is harddrive 2 partition 2 etc..
[16:02] <filthpig> kenny, all you need is your normal psw
[16:03] <hischild> Sinnerman, take a look at gmountiso
[16:03] <Sinnerman> hischild ok. thanks.
[16:03] <lodi> nope 100 mb for /boot, 10 - 15 / 1 /swap anything for /home
[16:03] <wizo> wah? 100 mb for boot only?
[16:03] <Deeppact> I got bit of a stupid question but what is the file extension for an uncompiled c++ file
[16:03] <wizo> lemme write this down
[16:04] <hischild> Deeppact, .cpp
[16:04] <lodi> 10-15 gb for /
[16:04] <Deeppact> hischild, thx
[16:04] <hischild> wizo, i have the same. It works perfectly as i only use about 50 total
[16:04] <Avenger> filthpig, but is it possible to specify a different pswd for the user and another for root?
[16:04] <wizo> what's 10-15?
[16:04] <wizo> 1 gig for swapp?
[16:04] <lodi> yes
[16:04] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, im trying to get on to apache from an outside network, but i think my isp blocks port 80 and/or 443, any idea what good ports to use are
[16:04] <xsystemx>  Xlibs not found at -L/usr/X11R6/lib - How can I find out what package is required ?
[16:04] <Flare183> wizo: that's good
[16:04] <ForzaPalermo> ive tried different ones, but they still only seem to work in network
[16:05] <hischild> Avenger, you can specify a password for root however this is nto reccomended.
[16:05] <hischild> *not
[16:05] <wizo> so boot, swap and /home
[16:05] <vox> Gurpartap: what grub determins to be hdx,x format depends entirely on the boot priority set in your bios
[16:05] <wizo> that's all yea?
[16:05] <kenny> ForzaPalermo: try 8080, its a common one
[16:05] <lodi> root partition
[16:05] <wizo> oh what's root for
[16:05] <lodi> "/"
[16:05] <Avenger> hischild, why is not recommended?
[16:05] <xsystemx> How can I found out the package name required for Xlibs?
[16:05] <[Soul]> why would i lose interrupts on my usb device?
[16:05] <ForzaPalermo> kenny, leave the 443?
[16:05] <Gurpartap> vox, thanks!
[16:05] <filthpig> Avenger, ubuntu is designed to use sudo only, but you can probably make a root account.. Althuogh there's no need.. sudo does al you need
[16:05] <[Soul]> and why would i get them only when mplayer is playing a movie
[16:06] <lodi> the rest of the files
[16:06] <lodi> sudo su avenger
[16:06] <wizo> alright
[16:06] <wizo> gotta go now
[16:06] <wizo> will try that later
[16:06] <lodi> like etc var
[16:06] <hischild> !root | Avenger
[16:06] <ubotwo> Avenger: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:06] <wizo> and hope i get the spare space later
[16:06] <wizo> be back late
[16:06] <wizo> r
[16:06] <hischild> read the link Avenger
[16:06] <lodi> ok
[16:06] <lodi> bye
[16:07] <lodi> sudo su
[16:07] <lodi> works avenger
[16:07] <Avenger> lodi, know, thanks...but i've a problem
[16:07] <duncan_nz> Hello. I can't find any suggestions for what info I should provide with my bug report for non-functioning hibernation, any suggestions here?
[16:07] <lodi> need X?
[16:07] <jrib> lodi: sudo -i  is preferred as it resets the environment
[16:08] <lodi> thank you
[16:08] <hischild> duncan_nz, what info you can provide, you should provide. If they need anything else, they will ask for it.
[16:08] <Avenger> lodi, i can mount a device, and i can access it when it akss me the pswd, but then i can't read anything on it...and it wasn't that way before
[16:08] <Sinnerman> hischild :( gmountiso doesn't really make mounting a .iso all that much more intuitive than using the CLI. i think i'd stick to the CLI and a script in that case.
[16:08] <zoexii> hello, does anyone know how to determine the video card driver in use by xorg?
[16:08] <Avenger> tried to enter with root too...same problem
[16:09] <Deeppact> I compiled a cpp file now i got a test.o file but how can i run it?
[16:09] <duncan_nz> okay, I've run though 'Help and Documentation > Help > Report a problem' so You're saying that should be enough?
[16:09] <cpainchaud> you cant run .o
[16:09] <hischild> Sinnerman, can you be a bit more specific in that case? the CLI is pretty obvious in my opinion, yet i'm used to it which probably makes the difference
[16:09] <ifireball> zoexii: look in xorg.conf or in the Xorg logfiles
[16:09] <cpainchaud> g++ test.cc -o test  will do it :D
[16:10] <lodi> and the data is good?
[16:10] <zoexii> ifireball, ok, where are the xorg logfiles?
[16:10] <lodi> with the sudo (-i) su command you get root access
[16:10] <ifireball> zoexii: in /var/log
[16:10] <Deeppact> I compiled a cpp file now i got a test.o file but how can i run it?
[16:10] <Sinnerman> hischild yeah, well, it is, i was just really looking for something to mount a ubuntu-dvd iso on the fly, for when synaptic needs to grab packages off it, rather than having the dvd in the drive all the time, or having to swap it in/out. i have space to spare on my hard disk at the moment.
[16:10] <lodi> use mc and you have a file managfer
[16:10] <lodi> but the datas could also be corrupt
[16:11] <cpainchaud> Deeppact: you can't run .o files
[16:11] <lodi> it works
[16:11] <Deeppact> cpainchaud, but i did g++ -c test.cpp
[16:11] <Deeppact> cpainchaud, and i got a test.o file
[16:11] <KwisatzH> drop the -c
[16:11] <cpainchaud> g++ -c doesnt produce executables
[16:11] <Deeppact> cpainchaud, but now i want to look if it worked but dno how
[16:11] <Sinnerman> hischild i wasn't saying i had a problem understanding the syntax, or how to use the CLI to achieve it, was just looking for a _simpler_ way to do it. gmountiso whilst helpful, does not really whittle down the number of steps involved.
[16:11] <hischild> Sinnerman, i see ... you can let it mount in an empty space by adding it in fstab and then point synaptic/apt to that location
[16:12] <brekas_skane> hallå
[16:12] <hischild> Sinnerman, true, i understood your question differently thus i was looking in a different direction for the solution
[16:12] <Sinnerman> hischild well, heh, thanks anyway, i'll work something out.
[16:12] <hischild> Sinnerman, good luck :-)
[16:12] <cpainchaud> since a .o is not an executable, you "cant test it" , it not made for that
[16:13] <brekas_skane> någon svensk här?
[16:13] <zaid> i need help with jokosher anyone?
[16:13] <attacco> brekas_skane, yeah
[16:13] <Gurpartap> "find /boot/grub/stage1" running this in grub command line, gives me a file not found error...??
[16:13] <Optimus55> hey my cpu scaling is always stuck at the highest speed, could there be some demanding application running in the background?
[16:13] <zaid> anyone famliar with jokosher
[16:13] <zaid> ?
[16:13] <cpainchaud> gcc test.cpp -o test.exe      then run ./test.exe
[16:14] <Sinnerman> this is weird. and annoying. brasero just won't start up. and launching it in a terminal does not give me any indication as to why that's happening. haven't had a problem with it in the past.
[16:14] <Gurpartap> anyoen?
[16:14] <zaid> can anyone help me with jokosher
[16:14] <zaid> ?
[16:14] <vox> Gurpartap: what are you trying to do
[16:15] <Deeppact> cpainchaud, thx alot it worked
[16:15] <Gurpartap> vox, http://www.techenclave.com/open-source/how-to-use-gfx-grub-ubuntu-104650.html
[16:15] <hischild> Optimus55, is it running on demand or at full speed?
[16:15] <zaid> can anyone help me on jokoshker?
[16:15] <snypzz> how to use wine
[16:15] <snypzz> ???
[16:15] <brekas_skane> attacco vet du något om urban terror
[16:16] <LjL> !se | brekas_skane
[16:16] <snypzz> can I use wine to install MSO 2003
[16:16] <ubotwo> brekas_skane: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[16:16] <Optimus55> hischild: says on demand. i have the applet icon in the panel bar. it used to work before but now it just sticks at 1.7ghz (dual core)
[16:16] <Avenger> lodi, there's no data corruption, the disk has been freshly formatted
[16:16] <lodi> cfonfigure wine do winecfg
[16:16] <lodi> when your happy with that
[16:16] <hischild> Optimus55, does system monitor show high cpu usage?
[16:16] <snypzz> installed it how do I run Apps with wine
[16:16] <snypzz> installed it how do I run Apps with wine?
[16:17] <lodi> no button wine , or windows programs in your menu?
[16:17] <Optimus55> hischild: nah pretty low, 0%.. 2%... 4%...0%
[16:17] <Avenger> lodi, in fact it tells me i have no authorization, but right after havcing asked me for my sudo pswd
[16:17] <snypzz> menu?
[16:18] <hischild> Optimus55, if you use powernowd you can specify an upper limit ... i'm not sure why it would've stopped, but that should give you a lower speed on it
[16:18] <poseidon> I am interesed in installing the kernel module from this site <http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/agebhard/WUSB54GC/>  but I am unsure which one to get.
[16:18] <vox> Gurpartap: err
[16:18] <Gurpartap> :D
[16:18] <lodi> he?
[16:18] <vox> Gurpartap: ...you shouldnt be missing that file
[16:18] <sa3iid_> i want use paltalk via wine but the rooms isn't , do you know this problem ?
[16:19] <Gurpartap> my ubuntu installation is fresh
[16:19] <poseidon> will they work for ubuntu 7.10
[16:19] <lodi> it works here,
[16:19] <Optimus55> hischild: yeah its using powernowd. when i run powernowd in terminal it shows both cpus with 3 steps ( 800, 1600, 1700)
[16:19] <Gurpartap> vox, i have tried that in "several installations", never produced a result for me
[16:19] <poseidon> And I'm guessing I should get the first one
[16:19] <Gurpartap> though for other purposes
[16:19] <lodi> kmenu, or gnome applications butto
[16:19] <lodi> or xfce menu
[16:19] <Optimus55> hischild: but in reality i jus see only 1700. i'm worried because i hear the fan all the time
[16:20] <serpa> how do I check the list of groups available on my system (CLI) ?
[16:20] <Gurpartap> vox, the file exists there, when i browse from nautilus
[16:20] <ibm-m6> hello, i need some help please , i would like to download from web page just .pdf files using wget command does it possible ?
[16:20] <Gurpartap> ibm-m6, yes
[16:20] <lodi> otherwise there in the program files folder of your .wine  folder
[16:20] <vox> Gurpartap: are you trying to find as normal user, or sudo?
[16:21] <hischild> Optimus55, no need to be worried. it'll shut down when it detects glitches (has always done that for me and my pc sux most of the time) ... you can use powernowd to give it a lower limit
[16:21] <Gurpartap> sudo
[16:21] <vox> o_O
[16:21] <Gurpartap> sudo grub........
[16:21] <snypzz> I have them in the programs foldes
[16:21] <snypzz> added to menu now how do I launch hem..../
[16:21] <ibm-m6> Gurpartap: can you give me example ? (i am new to Ubuntu)
[16:21] <spawn57> hi, how do I install the skylin98 driver in gutsy?
[16:21] <Avenger> can't make the sound files converter to work on xubuntu...
[16:22] <Gurpartap> ibm-m6, wget http://mysite.com/myapplication.pdf
[16:22] <Gurpartap> ibm-m6, if you run that command in terminal, the file will be downloaded to the folder you are currently in.
[16:23] <WesMont> Ciao
[16:23] <snypzz> anyone use wine out there???
[16:23] <duncan_nz> brekas_skane: jeg kan forstå du hvis det er det du har brug for (dansk)
[16:23] <Avenger> Gurpartap, i've tewo problems one with possible not recognition of my pswd and another with the impossibility to run sound files converter, any suggestion?
[16:23] <jrib> !anyone | snypzz
[16:23] <iobelix> hi, i am about to install sidux along with ubuntu, and i was wondering if somebody has tips on how to avoid permissions problems if i ask sidux to share /home (should i even share /home? or would creating a new user name for sidux help? i could probably set it up so i can access my docs in ubuntu /home from sidux, yes?)
[16:23] <ubotwo> snypzz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:23] <vox> Gurpartap: i dont know why he's using find tho.. all it's going to do is say "LOL there's a file here"
[16:23] <vox> Gurpartap: it isnt going to say anything about where the boot partition is
[16:23] <duncan_nz> snypzz: I do for a few things
[16:23] <Gurpartap> vox, not really
[16:23] <Optimus55> hischild: is there anyway to check my current cpu temperature?
[16:24] <Gurpartap> i have read about it everywhere, pointing to the partition having /boot
[16:24] <snypzz> how do you you launch or run windows apps in WINE?
[16:24] <Avenger> jrib,  i've tewo problems one with possible not recognition of my pswd and another with the impossibility to run sound files converter, any suggestion?
[16:24] <erUSUL> !sensors | Optimus55
[16:24] <Gurpartap> vox, ^
[16:24] <ubotwo> Optimus55: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[16:24] <hischild> Optimus55, uhm ... there is, yet i'm not sure which one that was
[16:24] <Gurpartap> snypzz, wine myfile.exe
[16:24] <jrib> !wine > snypzz (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:24] <duncan_nz> snypzz: tell me what you have tried
[16:24] <brobostigon> snypzz: wine app.exe
[16:24] <macnus> Hi. Does anyone know a minimalist distro, that doenst have a GUI?
[16:24] <hischild> !minimal | macd
[16:24] <ubotwo> macd: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:24] <vox> Gurpartap: thats fine, but all 'find' does is locate a file.  that's it.  it isnt going to tell you what the file contains.
[16:24] <hischild> !minimal macnus
[16:25] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[16:25] <brobostigon> macnus: ubuntu server
[16:25] <Avenger> macnus, DSL, Damn Small Linux
[16:25] <Gurpartap> vox, correct
[16:25] <jrib> Avenger: pswd?
[16:25] <duncan_nz> brobostigon: that's hardy minimal.
[16:25] <lodi> WINEPREFIX="/home/lodi/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Paltalk Messenger\paltalk.exe"
[16:25] <sam__> hey...im thinking about setting up ubuntu on this old computer...is there an aol alient i can use on ubuntu
[16:25] <lodi> is how i start paltalk
[16:25] <Gurpartap> l'll proceed with next steps, after identifying the hd my self
[16:25] <Gurpartap> :)
[16:25] <ubuntufreak> I get a flashing login screen in Ubuntu 7.10 and i cant login to the system, help needed
[16:25] <snypzz> Wine App.exe in Terminal?
[16:25] <macnus> Avenger: But doesnt DSL have a gui?
[16:25] <Gurpartap> snypzz, yes
[16:26] <Gurpartap> snypzz, OR, right click your app.exe and select to run in wine
[16:26] <duncan_nz> snypzz: 'App.exe' should be the name of the windows executable you are trying to start.
[16:26] <lodi> this i copied from my kmenu
[16:26] <Avenger> jrib, when i try to acces a drive (another HDD) it asks me for the pswd, i give it and then all it shows me is "lost & found", which i can't access, and the drive has been entirely freshly newly formatted, and it say that i've no permission to enter
[16:26] <iobelix> is it recommended to share /home in a dual boot situation? if not, is it alright to mount the same /home partition for both distros but use different usernames so things don't mess up?
[16:26] <lodi> wine winword.exe you mean
[16:26] <Gurpartap> macnus, compile your own kernel?
[16:27] <Avenger> macnus, nope, it's ...kind of weird, you could say it doesn't
[16:27] <duncan_nz> iobelix: depends on the other installation. what is it?
[16:27] <jrib> Avenger: what filesystem?
[16:27] <Avenger> jrib, ext3
[16:27] <sam__> does anybody know of an aol client for ubuntu
[16:27] <jrib> Avenger: what permissions have you set on it?
[16:27] <iobelix> duncan_nz, sidux for now, i would just like to try different distros, so i'll probably have them for a month or so each
[16:27] <LjL> !pidgin | sam__
[16:27] <Avenger> macnus, it runs on 64 MB RAM, for you to knwo
[16:27] <ubotwo> sam__: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[16:27] <brobostigon> sam__: pidgin
[16:28] <macnus> Gurpartap: Do you know a site, that explains how to do that, cause im not that much into linux
[16:28] <sam__> no...i mean to connect to aol dialup...not aim
[16:28] <duncan_nz> sam; for aol messenger=Pidgin: 'Internet > Pidgin Internet Messenger'
[16:28] <ibm-m6> Gurpartap: the problem i have alot of pdf files in the page, and i dont have power to type for each link, can i set up rule for wget to find & download just the .pdf files from the page ?
[16:28] <Avenger> jrib, , none special,, i'm the only user i formatted the disk and conencted it as slave, it's a small 10GB one
[16:28] <iobelix> duncan_nz, i had major permissions problems when i installed foresight and asked it to mount the /home partition, so i am wondering if having different usernames might help
[16:28] <jrib> Avenger: you need to give your user proper permissions if you want the user to use it
[16:28] <jrib> !permissions > avenger (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:29] <egc> has anybody set up dual-boot with solaris and ubuntu?
[16:29] <sam__> anybody at all?
[16:29] <LjL> !info penggy | sam__
[16:29] <ubotwo> sam__: penggy: connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-17 (gutsy), package size 73 kB, installed size 336 kB (Only available for None)
[16:29] <duncan_nz> got the help i needed, helped a few others. even score - time to go and make dinner.
[16:29] <macnus> Avenger: But as I see DSL has a GUI interface?
[16:29] <jamil_11020429> How can we create bat files in ubuntu
[16:29] <dijital1> which mp3 player do you use?
[16:29] <vox> Gurpartap: if you want to know what device you boot from, asfar as grub is concerned, simply 'cat /boot/grub/menu.lst'  and look at the first entry
[16:29] <Avenger> jrib, i've ALL the permissions possible, except sending faxes
[16:29] <jrib> jamil_11020429: google "bash scripting"
[16:29] <jamil_11020429> "Batch"
[16:30] <DRebellion> jamil_11020429, you want a shell script
[16:30] <erUSUL> !bash | jamil_11020429
[16:30] <ubotwo> jamil_11020429: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:30] <jrib> Avenger: where is the partition mounted?
[16:30] <Stargazers> Hi. What can be problem, I have Acer AL2216W 22" LCD display and Ubuntu shows black borders both side of screen and I can't resize?
[16:30] <LjL> jamil_11020429: there is no such thing. the closest is "shell scripts". you create a file with « #!/bin/bash » on the first line, and then standard shell commands.
[16:30] <Avenger> jrib, it asks me for the admin pswd before letting me see the contents, and then when i type it correctly it says i am not auhtorized
[16:30] <Stargazers> Is that driver bug?
[16:30] <LjL> sam__: some instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-104296.html
[16:30] <Gurpartap> vox, (hd0,4) :D
[16:30] <Gurpartap> thx!
[16:31] <vox> no dramas
[16:31] <Ashfire908> where does iptables log to?
[16:31] <jrib> Avenger: I can only help you if you answer my questions
[16:31] <Gurpartap> however, i'm unable to use sudo after fixing the time
[16:31] <hischild> Gurpartap, how did you fix the time?
[16:31] <ibm-m6> i need help please , does it possible to use wget as a web crawler and to set up rule that its will download just .pdf files ?
[16:31] <jrib> ibm-m6: yes
[16:31] <Gurpartap> hischild, heh, i mean fixed the time that is stored on my system
[16:32] <Avenger> jrib, , didn't read your last one, sorry
[16:32] <dijital1> which audio player do you like best?
[16:32] <erUSUL> Ashfire908: if yiou use ULOG target to /var/log/ulog/* if not to syslog afaik
[16:32] <iobelix> is it recommended to share /home in a dual boot situation? if not, is it alright to mount the same /home partition for both distros but use different usernames so things don't mess up?
[16:32] <ibm-m6> jrib: i am new to Ubuntu , can you give me example of the command line please ?
[16:32] <hischild> Gurpartap, that's the only time that you can fix :p but i meant how ;-)
[16:32] <mcscruff> lo all, anyone know where to get the dev for :checking for strlcpy... no
[16:32] <mcscruff> checking for strlcat... no
[16:32] <jrib> Avenger: where is the partition mounted?
[16:32] <Gurpartap> hischild, right click the date/time panel on top right and adjust?
[16:32] <LjL> iobelix, i think i would do the latter, if the GNOME/KDE versions don't match especially
[16:33] <hischild> Gurpartap, i meant did you manually adjust or automatic y server?
[16:33] <hischild> mcscruff, please don't copy stuff in here, use the pastebin for that. and what are you trying to compile?
[16:33] <Avenger> jrib, good question, i know it's mounted because when right click the option is to dismount it...
[16:33] <jrib> ibm-m6: read 'man wget' and checkout the '-r' and '--accept' switches.  You can search in a man page by typing /accept<ENTER>  for example
[16:33] <Gurpartap> manually
[16:33] <jrib> Avenger: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[16:33] <ompaul> Ashfire908, do man iptables then do /Turn on kernel logging   <<<< that will get you there
[16:33] <mcscruff> hischild, if i remember correctly 2 lines is ok in here, and its ettercap with plugins enables
[16:33] <Avenger> jrib,  media/disk
[16:33] <iobelix> ljl, thanks. usually though, if two distros are gnome based (and assuming that they use the same kernels and gnome versions) is sharing /home a problem? reason i ask is that i installed foresight and got major permission problems
[16:33] <mcscruff> *enabled
[16:34] <macnus> Gurpatap: Is there some kind of guide, for compiling your own kernel=
[16:34] <erUSUL> ibm-m6: wget -r --no-parent -A.pdf «url»
[16:34] <ompaul> iobelix, that would not be a good idea - even the same OS different versions would be bad
[16:34] <hischild> mcscruff, you're missing probably a few packages. Type << sudo apt-get build-dep ettercap >> in console to download all the packages needed for compiling it.
[16:35] <LjL> iobelix, they may handle things like the xauth files (just on top of my head) quite differently. i wouldn't be comfortable with sharing a user really
[16:35] <prin> My laptop battery seems to be acting very strange under xubuntu. Is there a way, maybe a command in the terminal, to see exactly how many percent of the battery is charged?
[16:35] <jrib> Avenger: ok, so now what is the output of 'ls -l /media/disk'?
[16:35] <hischild> prin, try acpi
[16:36] <Gurpartap> macnus, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[16:36] <prin> Perhaps I should have started my question with explaining my complete linux ineptitude.
[16:36] <prin> hischild, so this acpi... Is it a directory or something?
[16:36] <Gurpartap> macnus, http://www.diy-linux.org
[16:37] <Avenger> jrib, this total 16
[16:37] <Avenger> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2008-03-02 10:15 lost+found
[16:37] <hischild> prin, type it into console
[16:37] <Deeppact> can someone help my dcc recieve in xchat does not work
[16:37] <jrib> Avenger: oops, I meant 'ls -ld /media/disk'
[16:37] <TheDesert> Hey
[16:38] <iobelix> ompaul, i see. the thing is i have more of my hard disk space allocated to /home (ubuntu). the extended partition i have free for testing distros is pretty small because i'd assumed i'd mount that as root and share home. is there any way i could use the same /home partition without messing things up?
[16:38] <prin> hischild, Hmm, that says about the same as the window applet... But that would mean this computer, asus eee, takes 6-7 hours to recharge? That seems insane!
[16:38] <Avenger> i don't get the difference, "sectors? size of the batch?"...well, anyway, here's what i got jrib drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-03-02 10:15 /media/disk
[16:39] <hischild> prin, how long ago did you install it? in terms of minutes, hours, days, months?
[16:39] <iobelix> ljl, thanks. so it is usually recommended to just have different homes for different OS's? is there a way to allocate a shared folder across all distros so docs, videos etc may be accessed no matter what is booted?
[16:39] <prin> hischild, I got the computer just two days ago, and I installed it right away.
[16:40] <hischild> prin, so you installed it like 2 days ago?
[16:40] <prin> hischild,  Indeed!
[16:40] <hischild> it'll take like 2 or 3 discharges before it properly can estimate the time ... ti did the same for me but now it's accurate ... (about 5 days after install)
[16:40] <mcscruff> hischild, cheers worked a treat
[16:40] <Ashfire908> erUSUL, i don't see it in syslog
[16:40] <hischild> mcscruff, you're welcome :-)
[16:40] <jrib> Avenger: you need to read the link I gave you before about permissions and set the ones you want on that directory.  Let me know if you have questions
[16:40] <prin> hischild, Ah, okay. I
[16:40] <jrib> Ashfire908: right now its owned by root
[16:41] <Deeppact> can someone help my dcc recieve in xchat does not work
[16:41] <erUSUL> Ashfire908: then dunno I use firehol wich in turn has an option tu use ulog and thats what i use
[16:41] <syntaxerror55> Are there any screen rulers for GNOME? I tried kruler but there's a border around it. the screen ruler here: http://gnomecoder.wordpress.com/screenruler/ has a broken download link. D:
[16:41] <LjL> iobelix, you can make a shared partition and mount it on, say, /srv
[16:41] <Avenger> jrib, already did that, and gave myself all the permissions...
[16:41] <prin> l'll give a few weeks then, just to make sure. Thank you hischild, that was very helpful.
[16:41] <hischild> prin, try to recharge it a couple times , it'll become much better :-)
[16:41] <jrib> Avenger: what did you do exactly?  paste the command
[16:41] <Ashfire908> jrib, huh? it is... i must have opened something else
[16:41] <el_taco> I have a xp/linux dualboot setup and I want to move to a larger harddrive. What would be the best way to do that?
[16:42] <el_taco> without having to reinstall everything
[16:42] <Avenger> jrib, i changed my user and gave me all root privs
[16:42] <Avenger> and anyway, when i log in as root it doesn't let me enter anyway
[16:42] <Ashfire908> jrib, oh i'm a member of adm
[16:42] <erUSUL> el_taco: maybe using partimage (or even dd directly) to copy over the partitions
[16:42] <vlt> Hello. I want to playback a certain DVD movie. I tested several DVDs and everything works fine. But I got one DVD that doesn't play (works fine on a hw player). What cousl be the problem here? What does the hardware player do that libdvdread can't do?
[16:42] <saltera> Hi, could some kind soul point me in the direction of an answer as to why pon / pppd doesn't call the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d.  Feel free to suggest the obvious I'm quite new to Ubuntu.
[16:43] <jrib> Avenger: "gave me all root privs" doesn't mean anything to me.  Files have permissions set on them.  Please read the link I gave you to understand how this works
[16:43] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow, didnt u tell me before, that u can bind trashes from other discs into the maintrash with cairo-docks, i installed cairo-docks now, can u tell me how u did this?
[16:43] <Avenger> jrib, exactly, they do, that's why i opend it it asked me for the su pswd to access it, i typed it and yet it says i've no authorization, if the su doesn't have it, then WHO?
[16:44] <geirha> Avenger: if you want write access to your disk, try: sudo chown $USER:$USER /media/disk
[16:44] <vlt> saltera: Maybe they don't match naming conventions. I had to rename a script recently and en it worked ...
[16:44] <vlt> *then
[16:44] <Avenger> geirha, even while as su it doesn't let me READ it
[16:44] <saltera> vlt: Could you give me a google search to explain what you mean by naming conventions?
[16:44] <jrib> Avenger: pastebin what you are doing that lets you determine that
[16:45] <geirha> Avenger: you read it earlier with the ls -l /media/disk command ... it was an empty ext2/3 filesystem with only the standard lost+found directory
[16:45] <prasanna> has anyone successfully installed acrobat pro on ubuntu?
[16:45] <vlt> saltera: I don't know if there are any. I had to remove chars liek "." and "-" from the script name. but I don't know exactly if that was really the problem ;-)
[16:46] <NET||abuse> hmm, i'm trying to use DownloadThemAll! firefox plugin as a download accelerator, downloading iso's or video's or such is a pain with the normal download manager, but finding it highly unreliable,
[16:46] <Avenger> jrib, left click on it, as in any file, it asks me the su pswd, i give it, it says it's ok, it opwn the media but it doesn't let me see anyhting besides a directory called "lost+found", and when i try to open it it tell me i've no authorization
[16:46] <Ashfire908> jrib, erUSUL does iptables wait when logging? does it write errors and logs at certian times?
[16:46] <NET||abuse> what is the best way to do download accelleration/resuming/multipart|chunked downloads
[16:46] <saltera> vlt: Cheers I've simply called the script after the ipparam which doesn't contain any none alpha characters.
[16:46] <mjw-> NET||abuse if you know the web address, just use wget
[16:46] <Makdaam> hi
[16:47] <Deeppact> can someone help my dcc recieve in xchat does not work
[16:47] <jrib> Avenger: I can't help you anymore until you read the link about permissions.  Trust, you are misunderstanding what is happening here
[16:47] <Avenger> okies, could you paste the link again please?
[16:47] <geirha> Ashfire908: it will only log if you specify that it should log
[16:47] <jrib> !permissions > avenger (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:48] <Avenger> okies, NOW someone has shut down my firefox...
[16:48] <Avenger> :-P
[16:48] <Ashfire908> geirha, i did tell it to?
[16:48] <Avenger> AGAIN
[16:48] <syntaxerror55> How do I remove the borders (window controls) from ONE GTK window?
[16:48] <geirha> Ashfire908: ULOG or LOG?
[16:48] <jrib> Avenger: and geirha did give you what you need to do, but to understand why read the link
[16:48] <Makdaam> syntaxerror55, throw a "borderless" hint while spawning it?
[16:48] <syntaxerror55> Makdaam: do what?
[16:49] <syntaxerror55> Makdaam: how?
[16:49] <Makdaam> well depends how you plan to run it
[16:49] <geirha> Ashfire908: the logs wil probably end up in /var/log/kern.log btw
[16:49] <syntaxerror55> Makdaam: I'm just trying to remove the window controls from KRuler
[16:49] <tushyd> anyone else having problems going fullscreen at vimeo.com?
[16:50] <ecko>   /quit
[16:50] <Makdaam> syntaxerror55,  hmm... some programming in libwnck might do the trick...
[16:51] <tushyd> anyone? fullscreen flash videos?
[16:51] <mykilx> hello all. anyone know of an equivalent to revdep-rebuild in gentoo or rpm -Va on redhat for gutsy ?
[16:51] <syntaxerror55> tushyd: View>Full Screen (firefox)
[16:52] <syntaxerror55> Makdaam: D:
[16:52] <beautifulsnow> You mean, how to install stuff on Ubuntu, mykilx, or how to use those other commands on Ubuntu itself?
[16:52] <mykilx> have a gutsy box that is acting funny all of a sudden. the box currently locks up shortly after loggin in now
[16:52] <brobostigon> tushyd: play the flv in vlc, that will do full screen
[16:52] <tushyd> robostigon, how?
[16:52] <Makdaam> there were some apps in libwnck that could get the same effect by giving them the PID of an app you wanted to modify
[16:52] <Makdaam> but I don't remember their names
[16:52] <mykilx> beautifulsnow: i want to verify that all installed packages are correct and have the system checked for issues
[16:53] <syntaxerror55> Makdaam: ok...so I can't hint "borderless" either?
[16:53] <Sonderblade> is there a program for viewing mht files?
[16:54] <beautifulsnow> I know this belongs in #winehq but no one is ever there, and I've been trying to fix this problem for a couple of days now... No matter what I try, my game that has worked for 6 months with no problems, under wine, now... just hides vanishes to outerspace, and I KNOW its running because I can hear it and it is listed in System Monitor... Help? :(
[16:54] <prasanna> i'm still tryin to get acrobat pro installed on ubuntu, is this possible?
[16:54] <Makdaam> syntaxerror55, well throwing a hint works only when spawning an aplication from another software
[16:54] <Makdaam> brb X reset
[16:54] <mykilx> ok, how about turning off compiz stuff via a terminal?
[16:54] <brobostigon> prasanna: have you tried wine??
[16:54] <bruenig> killall compiz
[16:55] <mykilx> bruenig: but i don't want compiz to comeback on reboot
[16:55] <prasanna> yes
[16:55] <adelie42> When I open VLC player, in the bottom left where it should show track time/time, it is always cut off so I can't see how long it is. any way to fix that?
[16:55] <prasanna> it fails during installation
[16:55] <bruenig> mykilx: well change whatever is launching it
[16:55] <prasanna> and i also tried crossover office
[16:55] <mykilx> and killall compiz will just leave X borked for my current session i'd imagine
[16:55] <bruenig> it wouldn't leave it borked
[16:55] <Omlette> prasanna: do you want full Acrobat, or just the Adobe Reader?
[16:55] <hischild> mykilx, no,  it'll work, there aren't any effects then
[16:55] <bruenig> you may wish to launch another window manager after having killed it though
[16:55] <saltera> vlt: Thanks for your help resolved it now, in this instance it was due to a space before #!/bin/sh.
[16:56] <mykilx> bruenig: i turned it on via the menu choice
[16:56] <dan_> any one know how to correct the "Daylight Savings Time" question
[16:56] <bruenig> mykilx: yeah I have no idea what these crazy abstraction things do
[16:56] <mykilx> ok well i'll give it a try
[16:56] <mykilx> bruenig: same
[16:57] <bruenig> I can't stand that stuff though, if you don't like the abstraction, you may want to move to another distro, just a suggestion
[16:57] <poseidon> I need to download "Here you can find the following files for Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 LTS: ralink-rt73_1.0.3.6_all.deb  (Firmware and udev scripts)"  Should that work for ubutu 7.10 to?
[16:57] <archman> how to make nautilus to run maximized?
[16:58] <mykilx> i have ubuntu set up on my wife's computer
[16:58] <mykilx> not mine ;)
[16:58] <The_Joe_> The monitor on my laptop is broken, so I'm trying to   use my PC monitor however I can't get it to use fglrx it keeps switching to vesa and everytime I change the screen options they just revert.
[16:58] <wizo> hey just curious, when i try to create a partition, it asks for the partition size in megabytes, but when i try to enter 100, it shows up as 90 in the partitions page
[16:58] <archman> wizo: swap or?
[16:59] <wizo> err havent specified yet
[16:59] <The_Joe_> This huge resolution is hurting my eyes.
[16:59] <wizo> but it's meant for /boot
[16:59] <mjw-> The_Joe_ what does lspci | grep -i vga return?
[16:59] <archman> ahaa
[16:59] <wizo> just wondering why it shows up as 90 when i enter 100
[16:59] <archman> i dunno
[17:00] <The_Joe_> mjw-, Should I be adding sudo for seasoning?
[17:00] <The_Joe_> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
[17:00] <wizo> anyone knows?
[17:00] <zzats> is it possible to create a raid-like virtual partition from a multiple files?
[17:00] <mjw-> The_Joe_ sudo is not necessary for lspci ;)
[17:00] <The_Joe_> And yes, that works with fglrx because when my laptop monitor it worked fine
[17:00] <zzats> I am trying to get around the size-limit of 4gb in a FAT-partition I cannot format
[17:00] <legend2440> Sonderblade:  i think opera opens mht files
[17:00] <spzatt> help mates
[17:00] <amenado> !info clone
[17:00] <ubotwo> Package clone does not exist in gutsy
[17:00] <spzatt> its me
[17:00] <amenado> !clone
[17:00] <spzatt> i installed ubuntu and stuffb
[17:01] <ubotwo> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:01] <spzatt> ut i cant get wine to work
[17:01] <mjw-> The_Joe_ darn, that is a fglrx-required chipset. don't know much about getting fglrx to behave properly :/
[17:01] <spzatt> but*
[17:01] <spzatt> this is thee rror ig et
[17:01] <spzatt> jack_sparrow, are you here?
[17:01] <AquaFo1> Anybody here with sl-modem experience?
[17:01] <The_Joe_> mjw-, Everytime I do choose fglrx I reboot and suddenly the options are back on vesa and it wants to use my laptop monitor again..
[17:01] <archman> does anybody know how to make nautilus to open folders maximized?
[17:01] <anaxagorus> hey anyone know how to find the executable behind a menu item (applications menu?)
[17:02] <spzatt> i get this error from wine :
[17:02] <Makdaam> hello
[17:02] <BobSapp> do you know where i can get ubuntu 8.05?
[17:02] <mykilx> cool, well killing compiz let me actually use the box again. so it looks like compiz is broken somehow
[17:02] <spzatt> christer@christer-desktop:~$ wine mirc631.exe
[17:02] <mykilx> that's why i was looking for a command to veriufy installed packages
[17:02] <jrib> anaxagorus: right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[17:02] <jrib> BobSapp: there is no such thing
[17:02] <anaxagorus> got it
[17:02] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 8.04 you mean BobSapp?
[17:03] <spzatt> jrib : im getting a error while using wine, do you know the cause?
[17:03] <BobSapp> well any hardy heron will doo
[17:03] <spzatt> error is : christer@christer-desktop:~$ wine mirc631.exe
[17:03] <mykilx> is there susch a tool in ubuntu?
[17:03] <jrib> spzatt: pastebin it
[17:03] <BobSapp> I saw a vmware image for 8.05 on the vmware site
[17:03] <mjw-> The_Joe_ wish I knew more how to help...i am not seasoned with fglrx ;)
[17:03] <Makdaam> are there any special drivers for the intel chipsets?
[17:03] <BobSapp> ah ill check that room bahzang
[17:03] <BobSapp> thanks
[17:03] <The_Joe_> mjw-, Nor am I. All I know is that it's a driver and I get all my fancy 3D effects from it ^^
[17:04] <amenado> mykilx try tools like  apt-cache  stats ; apt-cache depends  to get a glimpse of your current system packages?
[17:04] <Pirate_Hunter> whats the command to check all default servers on irssi?
[17:04] <Da_Putzler> is there a way to handle thumbnail information in Gutsy ? I can change size only, but how about quality settings etc ?
[17:04] <macnus> Is it possible to make the computer use a command-line everytime it starts up?
[17:05] <legend2440> BobSapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha1
[17:05] <The_Joe_> "All users must log off..." no that's not right
[17:05] <Gnea> macnus: yes.
[17:05] <mykilx> amenado: well that gives me a little bit of info
[17:05] <spzatt> jrib: here is the pastebin : http://pastebin.org/22960
[17:05] <macnus> Gnea: How do I do that?
[17:06] <jrib> macnus: sure, system -> adiministration -> services and disable the graphical login
[17:06] <The_Joe_> Well... Better do what it says and hope for the best...
[17:06] <mykilx> in gentoo revdep-rebuild examines the installed packages and their deps, if it finds something broken, it fixes it
[17:06] <jamil_11020429> how can  i write shell scripts in UBUNTU
[17:06] <erUSUL> jamil_11020429: with a text editor ?
[17:07] <spzatt> jrib: pastebin : http://pastebin.org/22960
[17:07] <erUSUL> jamil_11020429: search in google the free "advanced bash scripting guide" is a nice book
[17:07] <macnus> jrib: Thats not what i mean. I want to make terminal run a command everytime i logon, so i dont have to do manually.
[17:08] <geirha> jamil_11020429: or perhaps start with the beginner guide http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[17:08] <spzatt> anyone : i get this error when using wine, please help.  http://pastebin.org/22960
[17:09] <geirha> spzatt: cd into the directory that contains the mirc exe
[17:09] <nestorsanchez_> hola
[17:10] <dan_> Mentallo and the Fixers sound great in my New Ubuntu
[17:10] <LjL> !away > ackshun_away    (ackshun_away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:10] <BobSapp> many thanks ledgend
[17:10] <Gnea> jamil_11020429: by typing them onto the keyboard and saving them in a file editor.
[17:10] <spzatt> geirha : i did, still doesnt work
[17:10] <spzatt> but im off
[17:10] <spzatt> cya ltaer
[17:10] <archman> jamil: create file and add #!/bin/bash at the beginning
[17:10] <dan_> I feel like a kid on christmas morning with a new computer
[17:10] <Gnea> macnus: install the server edition
[17:10] <mykilx> jamil_11020429: using vim?
[17:10] <dan_> I'm never going back to windows
[17:10] <jamil_11020429> whats vim
[17:10] <jrib> spzatt: your not in the directory where mirc631.exe is
[17:11] <sx66> dan_: what comp do you use?
[17:11] <wizo> omg
[17:11] <Gnea> jamil_11020429: a text/file editor
[17:11] <geirha> jrib: he left
[17:11] <anaxagorus> how do i uninstall a package
[17:12] <archman> gnea: you meant vi?
[17:12] <syntaxerror55> !vim | jamil_11020429
[17:12] <ubotwo> jamil_11020429: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[17:12] <wizo> why does my free space turn into unusable after i create a swap ?
[17:12] <amenado> mykils maybe try  apt-get -f install
[17:12] <Gnea> anaxagorus: apt-get remove <package>
[17:12] <dan_> just a compaq presario that I paid 300 for about 2 years ago
[17:12] <The_Joe_> Oh cool no results >.<
[17:12] <ellevoros> i have problem with visual effect some help plz!!!!
[17:12] <anaxagorus> thanks .. .
[17:12] <geirha> anaxagorus: via synaptic or sudo aptitude remove packagename
[17:12] <jrib> !apt > anaxagorus (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:12] <Gnea> archman: what?
[17:12] <KwisatzH> maybe apt-get autoremove is better
[17:12] <archman> jamil: create file and add #!/bin/bash at the beginning
[17:12] <sx66> dan_: p(m), ram?
[17:12] <archman> Gnea: vi
[17:12] <amenado> wizo how big was the swap you specified? the whole free spaces?
[17:12] <Gnea> archman: what about it?
[17:12] <archman> Gnea: ok,or vim, its the same i see
[17:12] <jrib> macnus: be more specific
[17:12] <danand> anaxagorus - use the purge flag to remove config files for the package as well ... ie apt-get --purge remove packagename
[17:12] <catphish> quick question, does anyone know how to supress the password prompt during mysql-server installation with apt-get
[17:12] <wizo> amenado: the swap i specified was 1500mb, but it shows up as 1497
[17:13] <Gnea> archman: almost - vim introduced more options and made it more user-friendly :)
[17:13] <anaxagorus> danand: thanks!
[17:13] <needlohelp> can someone help me im getting a command not found error when i try to do ./install.sh
[17:13] <archman> Gnea: vi improved
[17:13] <archman> ;-)
[17:13] <wizo> amenado: and i created a /boot with 106mb. i have now 77671 unusable which should be free.
[17:13] <Gnea> needlohelp: sh ./install.sh
[17:13] <amenado> wizo maybe thats the page size boundaries..
[17:13] <dan_> 768 RAM , 1.3 GHz AMD Ghz Processor. Nothing fancy
[17:13] <danand> needlohelp - what is the error your getting?
[17:13] <v3ctor> needlohelp: it is not executable
[17:13] <jrib> macnus: what exactly do you want to run?
[17:13] <syntaxerror55> dan_: fancier then mine
[17:14] <beautifulsnow> I know this belongs in #winehq but no one is ever there, and I've been trying to fix this problem for a couple of days now... No matter what I try, my game that has worked for 6 months with no problems, under wine, now... just hides vanishes to outerspace, and I KNOW its running because I can hear it and it is listed in System Monitor... Help? :(
[17:14] <wizo> amenado: ey?
[17:14] <mykilx> jamil_11020429: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html may want to google for an intro to bash guide though
[17:14] <amenado> wizo do you have any other swap spaces?
[17:14] <wizo> amenado: i have 2 other partitions
[17:14] <needlohelp> sudo: ./install.sh: command not found
[17:14] <amenado> wizo do you have any other swap spaces?
[17:14] <wizo> those are for windows
[17:14] <Gnea> beautifulsnow: tried cleaning up your desktop?
[17:14] <dan_> I have this old P3 786 with 256 RAM I'm thinking of loading "Damn Small Linux" on to see what I can get out of it
[17:14] <wizo> amenado: but i havent specified any swap things
[17:14] <jrib> needlohelp: what are you trying to install?
[17:15] <mykilx> beautifulsnow: have you updated wine?
[17:15] <legend2440> BobSapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha6 there is an alpha 6 now so that might be better
[17:15] <v3ctor> needlohelp: sh ./install.sh:
[17:15] <syntaxerror55> needlohelp: sh install.sh
[17:15] <wizo> only a /boot and a swap
[17:15] <beautifulsnow> What do you mean Gnea? And yes mykilx, I have, still no luck
[17:15] <anaxagorus> right now i have to type: /home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans to start netbeans -- what is the best way to run from any shell -- should i add to path or create a symbollic link?
[17:15] <mykilx> beautifulsnow: if so, try downgrading to the version that worked
[17:15] <needlohelp> the ubuntu-eee script
[17:15] <BobSapp> yes i looked at the cdimage
[17:15] <beautifulsnow> mykilx:  I have, it didn't help O.o
[17:15] <BobSapp> downloading it now thanks
[17:15] <mykilx> beautifulsnow: that sucks
[17:15] <Gnea> beautifulsnow: when you have windows that you can't see, you should be able to "clean up" the desktop by making every window snap back into the viewport of the desktop
[17:15] <amenado> wizo you can delete that swap and recreate it again
[17:16] <wizo> amenado: , ok i'll try again
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> Gnea: The window doesnt even show on the taskbar
[17:16] <syntaxerror55> When Hardy comes out, they aren
[17:16] <syntaxerror55> 't going to close the dapper repos, right?
[17:16] <syntaxerror55> D:
[17:16] <beex> I'm having some problems with my xorg.conf, is there somebody out there to help me?
[17:16] <Gnea> beautifulsnow: can you kill it from the commandline?
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> Yes Gnea
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[17:16] <ubotwo> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[17:16] <Gnea> beautifulsnow: what if you create a new account and run it from there?
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> And I can hear it running (the Guild Wars music) Gnea
[17:16] <KwisatzH> How come we're using H again when we have Hoary already?
[17:16] <syntaxerror55> Jack_Sparrow: I mean close the repos. As in you can't even get the old debs anymore.
[17:16] <wizo> amenado: i deleted it adn created again, and now it's saying that the free space is unusable
[17:16] <dan_> I still cant get the Advanced Effects to work though. I want to use the CompWiz feature
[17:16] <beautifulsnow> Not a bad idea Gnea, let me go try it :D Thanks!
[17:16] <jrib> KwisatzH: it is in alphabetical order since dapper
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> syntaxerror55, It was my understanding that eol is when they close the repos
[17:17] <amenado> wizo how are you create these? what is the exact command you used?
[17:17] <syntaxerror55> Jack_Sparrow: Dang D:
[17:17] <wizo> amenado: i'm using the partitoiner from the liveCD
[17:17] <syntaxerror55> Jack_Sparrow: I'm in an odd situation here. My disk tray doesn't work, so I can't boot liveCDs and reinstall.
[17:17] <Bobbe> Hey guys. I tried searching on google and in the ubuntu forums, but I have two issues here no one else seemed to be having (or at least posted anything about). I have Nvidia drivers running ok on Hardy Heron, but nvidia-settings is not installed anymore, which is ok because apparently Xorg Handles multiples monitor on its own better. My second display doesn't appear when I go to the "Screen Resolution" prog, though. Anyone has the same problem?
[17:17] <IndyGunFreak> !eol
[17:18] <ubotwo> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[17:18] <wizo> amenado: ok, i cant created any more than 2 partitions
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> syntaxerror55, Use usb stick to reinstall
[17:18] <syntaxerror55> Jack_Sparrow: How? :D
[17:18] <amenado> wizo i like command lines, ..can you try using command lines?
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: that sucks.. as said, can you boot from a USB disk?
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[17:18] <xopher> Hi, I've got a ALC850, integrated soundcard, but surround speakers won't play, ideas?
[17:18] <ubotwo> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:18] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: yes.
[17:18] <syntaxerror55> I have one
[17:19] <syntaxerror55> two
[17:19] <syntaxerror55> :P
[17:19] <wizo> amenado: what partition program
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: if you can boot from a USB device, shouldnt' be a huge issue to install it, there's instructions out there in several places to do it.
[17:19] <dan_> Under "Preferances" > Appearance > Visual Affects " Does anyone know how to get the other options to become available ? I keep getting The Composite extension is not available error messages
[17:20] <amenado> wizo  cfdisk or fdisk
[17:20] <amenado> wizo fdisk is the command line
[17:20] <wizo> mm ok
[17:20] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: I've never booted from USB before.
[17:20] <Bobbe> dan_: your video board's drivers are probably not installed, so compiz is not supported. have you tried installing the drivers for your board?
[17:20] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[17:20] <FJSS> I was running ubuntu and I installed the kubuntu desktop package, now I want to go back to the ubuntu desktop, how do I uninstall all of the packages that kubuntu desktop installed?
[17:20] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: depending on the age fo your PC, it coudl be an option in your bios.
[17:20] <bruenig> FJSS: you don't, isn't that funny, meta-packages are cool like that
[17:20] <dan_> Bobbe , I have the "3rd party drivers" installed
[17:20] <catphish> quick question, does anyone know how to supress the password prompt during mysql-server installation with apt-get
[17:20] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: I don't even know if it even can work, because it almost booted from my USB external CD drive...
[17:20] <soundray> FJSS: just select gnome at the gdm login screen. No need to remove packages
[17:21] <wizo> gak
[17:21] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: but maybe it saw it as a CD drive and not boot from USB?
[17:21] <bruenig> catphish: the password prompt coming from sudo? or what
[17:21] <wizo> how do i see my hd
[17:21] <dan_> I want to check something
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: so you got your system to boot from an external USB cd drive?
[17:21] <dan_> BRB
[17:21] <poseidon> 7.10 is feisty, correct?
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> syntaxerror55, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:21] <catphish> bruenig: part of the mysql-server install prompts for a mysql root password
[17:21] <Bobbe> dan_: k
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: thats the one i was looking for.
[17:21] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: No. It stalled at "Loading Linux Kernel...7%""
[17:21] <KwisatzH> gutsy
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[17:21] <soundray> poseidon: no, that's gutsy.
[17:21] <The_Joe_> I think I found the solution :D
[17:21] <wizo> anyone knows how i can find my harddisk?
[17:21] <The_Joe_> Delete the xorg.conf failsafes and backups
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: i guess what i'm saying is, but your system saw the ISO on the external USB drive, and gave you the opportunity to boot it.
[17:24] <bruenig> catphish: that must be coming from the preinst script, you would need to open up the deb, modify the preinst script, put it back together and go from there
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> syntaxerror55, But that means that it Tries.. so you will be able to do it.. you just have the stick setup wrong
[17:24] <FJSS> soundray: I did that but now I stall have all of the kubuntu programs that I don't need like ktorrent and konqueror and kontact etc. I just want to remove all those. do I have to remove them all separately?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: thats what i'm thinkin
[17:24] <catphish> bruenig: eek, the same thing applies to postfix install, asks lots of questions about mail configuration
[17:24] <soundray> FJSS: are you running out of space?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> xopher: ALC850?
[17:24] <brobostigon> FJSS: sudo apt-get autoremove  kubuntu-desktop
[17:24] <Prefix> what alternative software is the for linux that lets me make lfash animations?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> xopher: so you get no sound at all?
[17:24] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: Jack_Sparrow: It's an external CD Drive, and my next biggest problem is I can't d/l over 200MB a day.
[17:25] <FJSS> soundray: no I just don't want multiple programs that do the same thing
[17:25] <syntaxerror55> So there's no way for me to get it to work with my current cd drive?
[17:26] <xopher> IndyGunFreak, it's a Realtek integrated soundcard, I do get sound, but only from my front speakers, and that only when I enable 'duplicate front'-mode. And the plug is in the right place, and only this one gives me sound at all
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[17:27] <ubotwo> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:29] <danand> FJSS - a list of the packages required by the kubuntu-desktop package can be seen by typing apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop. Be warned though that some of the required packages may be used by the gnome desktop too. Check through requirements/deps for both and remove the packages you don't need
[17:29] <soundray> FJSS: go with brobostigon's advice then
[17:29] <bruenig> catphish: bad packaging, obnoxious hand holding like that is unavoidable with this distro though so if it bothers you that much, might wish to move along
[17:29]  * IndyGunFreak is amazed at Jack_Sparrow and his ubotu prowess
[17:40] <Keegan> Anyone know where I could find some good information on how to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive.  I'm having a really hard to trying to figure it out
[17:40] <Keegan> time*
[17:43] <Prefix> try asking again in abit Keegan, i think there was a netsplit just there
[17:44] <sinbox> looks like it
[17:44] <Keegan> Just my luck :-p
[17:44] <Prefix> lol
[17:50] <|Zippo|> someone have a ATI RADEON EXPRESS 200M???
[17:51] <Prefix> theres about a 10th of the normal users in this room, so youd be better of asking again when everyone is back from the netsplit
[17:53] <|Zippo|> Prefix: ok
[17:54] <Martinp23> |Zippo|: I do.
[17:54] <Martinp23> I think
[17:54] <Martinp23> Dell inspiron 1501.
[17:54] <martin__> Ubuntu really does rule
[17:54] <Prefix> ubuntu's little toe's toenail > other os
[17:55] <hapo> is there any way to disable compiz on the live cd of ubuntu?
[17:55] <|Zippo|> Martinp23: i installed the newest driver, xserver-xgl, and now compiz it's working... but it's REALLY slow
[17:55] <Prefix> system>preference>appearance>vis effects>none
[17:55] <Prefix> i think hapo
[17:56] <|Zippo|> hapo: i think that on live CD compiz it's already unable
[17:56] <hapo> or well, is it possible to disable xgl alltogether?
[17:56] <|Zippo|> try to reboot and choose SAFE GRAPHICS option if you are having troubles to use live cd
[17:57] <hapo> I want to test if xgl causes suspend to RAM to fail
[17:57] <hapo> I heard it would finally work on hardy
[17:57] <hapo> and DL'ed a live cd
[17:57] <hapo> but it became even worse
[17:59] <ellevoros_> i have problem with drivers !!! help
[18:00] <ellevoros_> ...
[18:03] <encryptz> heh
[18:03] <encryptz> gotta love netsplits
[18:07] <Prefix> yeah lol
[18:11] <Skiessi> why they haven't updated vlc to 0.8.6e?
[18:18] <Keegan> Woah... is everyone back yet?
[18:18] <Skiessi> back from what?
[18:18] <ArmyMan007> I'm here...
[18:19] <ArmyMan007> and I need some help with Xubuntu...
[18:19] <Keegan> From the "netsplit"
[18:19] <Skiessi> ok...
[18:19] <Prefix> What alterantive is there for linux for amking flash movies?
[18:20] <hexa> anybody here got a Logitech QuickCam Messenger up and running?
[18:20] <Prefix> yeah Keegan
[18:20] <Prefix> LOL ANOTHER NETSPLIT
[18:20] <Prefix> WHAT IS THIS
[18:20] <Prefix> LOL
[18:20] <Keegan> Haha
[18:20] <Prefix> KEEGAN BE MORE UNLUCKY ROFL
[18:20] <ArmyMan007> what the hell was that???
[18:20] <Keegan> Its killin me man
[18:20] <ArmyMan007> what the hell was that???
[18:20] <Prefix> wow keegan your really unlucky dude
[18:20] <erUSUL> !caps | Prefix
[18:20] <Prefix> the bots gone erusul
[18:21] <hexa> anybody here got a Logitech QuickCam Messenger up and running?
[18:21] <pianoboy3333> netsplit...
[18:21] <erUSUL> Prefix: then please do not use caps we can read lowercase too ;P
[18:21] <pianoboy3333> hexa: me
[18:21] <judgen> hi, i have some problems with my ethernet card. It stops working by itself after a little while, for no apperant reason it seems.
[18:21] <ArmyMan007> what's netsplit?
[18:21] <pianoboy3333> !netsplit > ArmyMan007
[18:21] <hexa> pianoboy3333: uhm i have issues building the crappy driver
[18:21] <pianoboy3333> hexa: yea... tell me about it
[18:22] <pianoboy3333> hexa:  it took forever to get working
[18:22] <hexa> uhm okay
[18:22] <hexa> :D
[18:22] <pianoboy3333> hexa: only some of them work too
[18:22] <pianoboy3333> hexa: how are you building it
[18:22] <hexa> i got 046d:08f6
[18:22] <hexa> with driver qc-usb-messenger-1.7
[18:22] <hexa> i got 046d:08f5 as well if that one works better
[18:22] <hexa> i tried with make install and the included ./quickcam.sh script
[18:22] <Nikolas|> Hello
[18:23] <bl00dniece> anyone else here using an eeepc?
[18:23] <Nikolas|> I can't connect to the internet with ubuntu 7.10
[18:23] <Keegan> When the 9" model comes out I will be :-D
[18:23] <Prefix> Nikolas
[18:23] <Prefix> wired or wireless?
[18:23] <hexa> pianoboy3333: http://rafb.net/p/ek5OWO24.html this is the failure
[18:23] <bl00dniece> Keegan: i want it too, i bought mine in Oct 2007
[18:23] <Nikolas|> wired
[18:24] <bl00dniece> openbox has been a good wm for it
[18:24] <Prefix> what comes up if you type 'ifconfig' in a terminal
[18:24] <pianoboy3333> hexa use modprobe
[18:24] <Prefix> ?
[18:24] <Nikolas|> w8
[18:24] <hexa> pianoboy3333: which module?
[18:25] <Nikolas|> it has a lot of text
[18:25] <ffm> how easy is it to have ubuntu auto-encrypt my swap with a random passphrase each time I boot?
[18:25] <hexa> quickcam nvm
[18:25] <Prefix> is there something like eth0?
[18:25] <Nikolas|> but i can't paste it here cause i am currently on my other pc
[18:25] <Nikolas|> yes ther eis
[18:25] <Nikolas|> there is*
[18:25] <Prefix> does it have *disabled* beside it?
[18:25] <hexa> pianoboy3333: [11398.151142] usbcore: registered new interface driver quickcam
[18:25] <hexa> it does not say it registered a /dev/videoX
[18:26] <pianoboy3333> you need qc-usb
[18:26] <Nikolas|> nope
[18:26] <hexa> not qc-usb-messenger?
[18:26] <ArmyMan007> hey... can anyone help me out with configuring my network?
[18:26] <Prefix> hmm well all ive got is typing 'sudo ifconfig eth0'
[18:26] <ArmyMan007> I don't need a manual, i need a step-by-step guide...
[18:26] <Prefix> sudo ifconfig etho0 up
[18:26] <Prefix> sorry
[18:27] <Prefix> try that but otherwise look up the ubuntu help documents
[18:27] <Prefix> system>help and support
[18:27] <Nikolas|> sudo: must be setuid root
[18:28] <Prefix> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:28] <pianoboy3333> hexa: either should be fine
[18:28] <beex> this is gutsy
[18:28] <pianoboy3333> hexa: do you have module-assistand
[18:28] <pianoboy3333> *assistant
[18:28] <hexa> yes
[18:28] <andyp_> an alle
[18:28] <pianoboy3333> hexa: are you using it to compile
[18:28] <moreati> beex: what model of grpahics card and display are you using?
[18:28] <hexa> uhm no
[18:28] <soundray> !de | andyp_
[18:28] <ubotwo> andyp_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:28] <hexa> should I?
[18:28] <andyp_> wie ja danke
[18:29] <pianoboy3333> hexa: uh huh
[18:29] <KwisatzH> wunderbar!
[18:29] <haxit> !help
[18:29] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:29] <Nikolas|> i have the 7.10 version
[18:29] <beex> for an shuttle sg33g5m... it has an integrated intel gaphics processor
[18:29] <pianoboy3333> hexa: type sudo m-a
[18:29] <andyp_> wie kann ich den neue raäume erichten oder einen raum
[18:29] <luisgmarine> Hey guys, quick question.  I'm taking some college class where its half online and half in the class room and the DATA disks they give us only works on Windows.  I have two hard drives I'm going to isntall windows on that second hdd, I was just wondering if doing so with ubuntu already installed on the first disk will fuck up my GRUB, or MBR what ever its called?
[18:29] <hexa> pianoboy3333: then?
[18:29] <LjL> andyp_, frag in #ubuntu-de bitte
[18:29] <moreati> beex: and what model of telly/monitor?
[18:29] <pianoboy3333> hexa: first scroll to update, and hit enter to update
[18:30] <fabio> !bot
[18:30] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:30] <ompaul> !language | luisgmarine
[18:30] <LjL> !botabuse
[18:30] <ubotwo> luisgmarine: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[18:30] <pianoboy3333> hexa: then prepare
[18:30] <beex> it's a epson homelite 1080 projector
[18:30] <ubotwo> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[18:30] <beex> checking my lspci now...
[18:30] <andyp_> #ubuntu-de
[18:30] <haxit> !calc 8 * 8
[18:30] <hexa> pianoboy3333: ok, got both
[18:30] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[18:30] <pianoboy3333> hexa: then select and scroll until you find the driver and hit space to select it
[18:30] <ThRixXx> Hey guyss!!! Is a Diamond a metal, non metal or metaloid ?
[18:30] <hexa> pianoboy3333: ok, got it
[18:30] <ompaul> luisgmarine, use the bios to change or fix grub when you get windows setup
[18:30] <Jack_71> uhm.. in what network i m?
[18:30] <ompaul> !grub | luisgmarine
[18:30] <pianoboy3333> hexa: then tab and do "ok"
[18:30] <ubotwo> luisgmarine: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:30] <luisgmarine> sorry didn't notice I typed that in ... my fault I apologize
[18:31] <soundray> ThRixXx: non-metal, but this is the only time I'll answer an offtopic question from you
[18:31] <ffm> how easy is it to have ubuntu auto-encrypt my swap with a random passphrase each time I boot?
[18:31] <modpr0n_2> Halp!  I need info on setting up wifi network.
[18:31] <beex> moreati: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82G35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:31] <hexa> pianoboy3333: binary package not found
[18:31] <cjones> anybody mind looking at my fstab http://pastebin.ca/935513 and tell me why my ntfs is not mounting on boot ?
[18:31] <pianoboy3333> hexa: what'd that come up after
[18:31] <moreati> beex: according to this page http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/4893253&category=tvs the homelite only accepts 1080i
[18:32] <Prefix> Keegan, the netsplit is gone
[18:32] <ffm> cjones: remove the first ,
[18:32] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i don't understand?
[18:32] <dan__> the code in that just hosed my display
[18:32] <pianoboy3333> hexa: do you have the package qc-usb-source installed?
[18:32] <cjones> ffm thanks you
[18:32] <hexa> pianoboy3333: no
[18:32] <dan__> I think i'm going to pass next time
[18:32] <joe__> !flash
[18:32] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:32] <pianoboy3333> hexa: oh, open another terminal, and "sudo apt-get install qc-usb-source"
[18:32] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i use GET, BUILD, INSTALL then, right?
[18:32] <murilo> amenado: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ exists
[18:32] <moreati> beex: 1080i is interlaced, the intel drivers can't handle interlaced modes. The hardware can do it, but the driver doesn't support it.
[18:33] <hexa> ok
[18:33] <hexa> ok, installed
[18:33] <beex> moreati: it's a powerlite home cinema 1080, sorry for the confusion
[18:33] <pianoboy3333> hexa: yea... but make sure the source package is installed.... if you were able to select it though it shoudl have been somewhere
[18:33] <ffm> cjones: make checks payable to "FFM ltd." ;)
[18:33] <amenado> murilo so you have ipv4,  check your ifconfig  and see if you get an ipv4 ip address now
[18:33] <beex> moreati: checked the spec, it's 1080p capable
[18:33] <pianoboy3333> hexa: ok, now go back to m-a
[18:33] <pianoboy3333> hit like cancel or something
[18:33] <hexa> pianoboy3333: kay
[18:34] <moreati> beex: that changes everything :)
[18:34] <murilo> amenado: Oo
[18:34] <murilo> amenado: i checked
[18:34] <pianoboy3333> hexa: and select the module qc-usb, then get build install
[18:34] <murilo> no ipv4
[18:34] <Tyczek> hi is there a solution to enable mixing with Team Speak and f.e quodlibet?
[18:34] <SoulBlade> with a fresh install of mythbuntu 7.1, i have a jumpy mouse - but if i play a movie w/ mplayer, it works fine... but only while the movie is playing - as soon as i stop it or pause it, the mouse goes back to being slow... i get no mouse interrupts unless mplayer is playing a vid
[18:34] <amenado> murilo-> can you paste into pastebin the result of  ifconfig
[18:35] <baal> i have in my shell window this:      "configure: error neither uclibic or uClibic ++ or gcc stbc+ library found" i try to get gcc repositories but have the newest version. any idea?
[18:35] <murilo> amenado: at live cd is  inet addr:192.168.62.186  Bcast:192.168.63.255  Mask:255.255.224.0
[18:35] <syntaxerror55> SoulBlade: that's an odd bug
[18:35] <hexa> pianoboy3333: and then modprobe qc-usb?
[18:35] <moreati> beex if you're using 1080p and Ubuntu 7.10, then HDMI should just work. Could you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.ca
[18:35] <amenado> murilo do you know what an ipv4 is?
[18:35] <pianoboy3333> hexa: yep, but I'm pretty sure you wanna use sudo with modprobe
[18:36] <eigenval> hi. installing xfce4session i've got  "Processing triggers for libc6 ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and it takes and takes and takes. is that normal? what if i have to stop the processing. can something bad happen?  can i rerun the installing procedure tomorrow?
[18:36] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i tried, but FATAL: Module qc_usb not found.
[18:36] <murilo> amenado: don`t exists inet addr if i boot without live cd
[18:36] <Flare183> eigenval: yes it is
[18:36] <amenado> murilo clearly from what you posted, it has an ipv4 addresses
[18:36] <baal>  i have in my shell window this:      "configure: error neither uclibic or uClibic ++ or gcc stbc+ library found" i try to get gcc repositories but have the newest version. any idea?
[18:36] <murilo> amenado: is IN LIVE CD
[18:36] <amenado> murilo i dont follow you, are you booted on liveCd now?
[18:36] <ArmyMan007> hello everyone
[18:37] <murilo> amenado: yes
[18:37] <pianoboy3333> hexa: I don't think the module is called qc-usb when you modprobe it....
[18:37] <Keegan> Anyone know where I could find some good information on how to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive.  I'm having a really hard time trying to figure it out
[18:37] <murilo> i don`t have connection without it
[18:37] <ArmyMan007> i need to configure a wired ethernet connection under Xubuntu
[18:37] <hexa> pianoboy3333: but?
[18:37] <nagyv> baal: did you installed build-essentials?
[18:37] <baal> no
[18:37] <pianoboy3333> hexa: its quickcam-messenger
[18:37] <eigenval> Flare183: what if i have to stop the processing. can something bad happen?  can i rerun the installing procedure tomorrow?
[18:37] <ArmyMan007> I have a wireless connection and I really need some help on how to get the internet up and running
[18:37] <baal> nagyv, no
[18:37] <SoulBlade> syntaxerror55 i know..
[18:37] <ArmyMan007> PM me or use messenger...
[18:37] <pianoboy3333> hexa: you'll also wanna add it to /etc/modules so that it automatically gets modprobed when the computer boots up
[18:37] <hexa> [12160.483340] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/media/video/usbvideo/quickcam_messenger.c: Logitech Quickcam Messenger USB v0.01
[18:37] <hexa> [12160.483401] usbcore: registered new interface driver QCM
[18:37] <amenado> murilo, okay do this, look in /etc/network/interfaces  whats the contents? paste into pastebin if you have to
[18:38] <nagyv> baal: then do it, the basic compilers and headers are included in that
[18:38] <hexa> sort of _nice_
[18:38] <SoulBlade> i cant explain it
[18:38] <nagyv> ball | ! build essentials
[18:38] <SoulBlade> and nobody's even acknowledged it until you just now haha
[18:38] <Flare183> eigenval: I don't know about  the others
[18:38] <baal> nagyv, tkat i can do this with: apt-get install...
[18:38] <murilo> amenado: out of live cd
[18:38] <pianoboy3333> hexa: try  it out with camorama or something, if it doesn't work, add it to /etc/modules and reboot and try again, if it _still_ doesn't work then you can try a different or older driver
[18:38] <murilo> ?
[18:38] <pianoboy3333> hexa: it should work
[18:38] <Flare183> !buildesstentials | baal
[18:38] <ubotwo> Flare183: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:38] <nagyv> baal: yes
[18:38] <syntaxerror55> SoulBlade: neither can I...uh, does it work with regular Ubuntu? I breifly looked at the mythbuntu page as I had never heard of it but they look /very/ similar
[18:38] <baal> ok
[18:38] <amenado> Keegan if you can hang on...
[18:39] <ArmyMan007> wel.. still need help...
[18:39] <Flare183> nevermind
[18:39] <Keegan> amenado: sure can
[18:39] <soundray> SoulBlade: people tend not to "acknowledge" a question unless they can answer it
[18:39] <hexa> pianoboy3333: it does not work, and i don't see what a reboot could possibly change
[18:39] <ArmyMan007> i need to configure a wired ethernet connection under Xubuntu
[18:39] <ArmyMan007> I have a wireless connection and I really need some help on how to get the internet up and running
[18:39] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, thx
[18:39] <Flare183> baal: no problem
[18:39] <amenado> murilo yes...i need you to paste the contents of that
[18:39] <Flare183> I tried
[18:39] <syntaxerror55> soundray: sorry, but it just struck me as an odd one. :|
[18:39] <hacknperl> wow....
[18:39] <SoulBlade> i havent tried anything else - i just decided to put mythbuntu on a pc
[18:39] <hacknperl> i cant beleive how many people are in this channel
[18:39] <SoulBlade> it works w/ winxp which is what i had on here before
[18:39] <pianoboy3333> hexa: could have to do with the order the modules are loaded, the system may only see the modules previously loaded, who knows, you did sucessfully modprobe the module before, correct?
[18:39] <soundray> syntaxerror55: I agree with you, and I didn't mean to criticize
[18:40] <amenado> Keegan-> you have a laptop or desktop? ubuntu 7.10?
[18:40] <murilo> amenado: man, i have no connection... how i`ll access the pastebin? say to me
[18:40] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i modprobe'd quickcam
[18:40] <moreati> beex any luck with posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.ca
[18:40] <hexa> so i try rmmod
[18:40] <Keegan> amenado: Desktop and yes its ubuntu 7.10
[18:40] <hacknperl> anyone haveing problems getting compiz paint fire on screen to work?
[18:40] <amenado> murilo-> say to you, you have fingers to make a copy, you have access to the internet now as you can chat with me
[18:40] <pianoboy3333> hexa: you have to modprobe quickcam-messenger
[18:40] <ubuntun00b14> when i install a program... say Limewire and it installs how do i open it?
[18:40] <SoulBlade> oh well
[18:40] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i have
[18:40] <ArmyMan007> nned help! one on one! setting up network! please help! PM or messenger! please!!!
[18:41] <pianoboy3333> hexa: and do it with root priviledges
[18:41] <amenado> Keegan->  you want to install it on an external usb drive?  to test the liveCd or permanently?
[18:41] <Montego> During reboot the system did and automatic scan. Something was listed as failed but I did not see what it was. How do I find out what failed?
[18:41] <pianoboy3333> hexa: so you did quickcam AND quickcam-messenger?
[18:41] <hacknperl> check under your applicatyions menu in the internet group it should be there for limewire
[18:41] <EvilBro> I've just compiled pidgin 2.4.0 from source and installed it. It won't run though because it is unable to find libpurple.so.0 in /usr/local/lib (because it doesn't look there, it looks in /usr/lib/). Does anyone know how I can make it look in /usr/local/lib too?
[18:41] <hacknperl> if it is not try the debian menu
[18:41] <Thunderus> mota
[18:41] <nagyv> ubuntun00b14: if it's a more or less well-known and gui program, then it should show up somewhere under your applications menu
[18:41] <Keegan> amenado: Permanently, I have installed it on it.  I just can't get it to boot when I set the bois options to boot from usb-hdd
[18:41] <hexa> pianoboy3333: i rmmod'ded quickcam
[18:41] <syntaxerror55> !frostwire | ubuntun00b14
[18:41] <ubotwo> ubuntun00b14: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[18:41] <Marfi> what do i use to change the write permissions of a drive, so that whenever it mounts, it will mount readable / writable?
[18:42] <SoulBlade> whats weird is that when i play a video in mplayer, i see the screen flicker a bit as if its going into some other video mode, and then my mouse is smooth
[18:42] <ubuntun00b14> can someone help me with a real easy question
[18:42] <dan__> dude , i got it to work
[18:42] <soundray> EvilBro: 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH'
[18:42] <ArmyMan007> can someone help me at all?
[18:42] <dan__> its awesome
[18:42] <bradley_> does anyone here know how to get COmpiz working on an ATI card???
[18:42] <nagyv> ubuntun00b14: otherwise you can open a terminal, and start typing the name of the program. In this case hit TAB after 3-4 letter, and the program will try to find out what you would like to run
[18:42] <syntaxerror55> ubuntun00b14: Yes, I already did. That's the instructions for a Limewire clone
[18:42] <hexa> bradley_: install fglrx driver
[18:42] <mustard_man> ArmyMan007: What exactly is the problem?
[18:42] <mdeslaur> I've just installed Gutsy on a Celeron 1.4 with 512 megs. When the user's desktop is idle, cpu usage is 100%. If I open gnome-system-monitor, cpu is used 100% between it and xorg. Any ideas?
[18:42] <bradley_> hexa: how???
[18:42] <amenado> Keegan-> umm..you bios selection to put priority one is your usb external drive?
[18:42] <gregbrady> dan_ 3D works now?
[18:42] <hexa> bradley_: browse the ati webpage, download it and execute it
[18:42] <nagyv> ubuntun00b14: see my last two answers!
[18:43] <moreati> ArmyMan007: rather than ask a very general question, please say what you've done, what the hardware is and what's gone wrong
[18:43] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> need to setup my internet on Xubuntu...
[18:43] <syntaxerror55> dan__: you got 3D working? O_O
[18:43] <amenado> Keegan-> what kind of error are you getting if any?
[18:43] <pybutcher> I need to set up a network with ubuntu machines that can share files and resources... how is that done?
[18:43] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> nothing is wrong... need assitance...
[18:43] <bradley_> hexa: i downloaded it, but i dont know how to excute it... join us here #atidriver
[18:43] <mustard_man> ArmyMan007: what are you using for internet services?
[18:43] <pianoboy3333> hexa: ok, do this exactly "modprobe quickcam quickcam-messenger && sudo modprobe quickcam quickcam-messenger && sudo echo "quickcam" >> /etc/modules && sudo echo "quickcam-messenger" >> /etc/modules"
[18:43] <Keegan> amenado: I'm getting no error it just won't boot.  I goes right to my internal drive
[18:43] <hacknperl> pybutcher
[18:43] <hacknperl> google ubuntu file sharing
[18:43] <nagyv> pybutcher: share is with whom? inside/outside your network, with windows machines or only linux?
[18:43] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> meaning?
[18:44] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> what kind of connection?
[18:44] <Prefix> Keegan: you need to chagne your bios boot oreder
[18:44] <pybutcher> justq linux inside my network
[18:44] <Bobbe> murilo: just checking I'm not double-querying, what is the problem you're having with network in ubuntu?
[18:44] <amenado> Keegan-> are you sure your bios really supports booting off of a usb drive?
[18:44] <moreati> ArmyMan007: what have you tried so far? Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide?
[18:44] <asc> Is there a limit to the number of video outputs X can use, or it just limited by hardware?
[18:44] <Marfi> what do i use to change the write permissions of a drive, so that whenever it mounts, it will mount readable / writable?
[18:44] <hexa> pianoboy3333: FATAL: Error inserting quickcam (/lib/modules/2.6.24-11-generic/ubuntu/media/quickcam/quickcam.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[18:44] <bradley_> hexa: i downloaded it, but i dont know how to excute it... join us here #atidriver please
[18:44] <hexa> bradley_: sorry no time
[18:44] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> manuals are useless to me.. I can't understand a thing from them...
[18:44] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> meaning?
[18:44] <Keegan> amenado: Yes I am sure.  It has three different usb boot options usb-hdd usb-fdd and usb-cdrom
[18:44] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> what kind of connection?
[18:44] <cjones> is there a channel for vbox?
[18:44] <shenshei_> hello
[18:44] <hacknperl> some bios's have an option to boot from external hard drives... make sure it is enabled
[18:44] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, could't find package, any others idea ?
[18:44] <nagyv> pybutcher: the easiest one is nfs, System->Administration->Shared folders, and follow the Help there
[18:44] <hacknperl> then check the boot order
[18:45] <pybutcher> thanks
[18:45] <mustard_man> I mean that your computer needs some sort of device for connecting to the internet.  Even Ubunmto doesn't always _just work_ with a standalone PC and some prayer.
[18:45] <EvilBro> soundray: I've just done 'export -p' and I don't even see that parameter. I do see PWD being set to '/usr/local/lib'...
[18:45] <frank23> cjones: yes it's #vbox   I think
[18:45] <amenado> Keegan-> and you tried usb-cdrom ?
[18:45] <nagyv> baal: try again :) it should be there
[18:45] <d7> hey Ive got a question concerning my laptop going to sleep and not wakign up
[18:45] <shenshei_> someone know why my network configuration is cleared every 5 minutes ?*
[18:45] <pianoboy3333> hexa: then only "modprobe quickcam-messenger && sudo modprobe quickcam-messenger &&  sudo echo "quickcam-messenger" >> /etc/modules"
[18:45] <Flare183> baal: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:45] <Keegan> amenado: Yes I've set all of them and it passes through all of them and goes right to the internal
[18:45] <Marfi> what do i use to change the write permissions of a drive, so that whenever it mounts, it will mount readable / writable?
[18:45] <soundray> EvilBro: export -p ? What did you do that for?
[18:45] <ArmyMan007> i'm using a wireless connection with a reciever being connected to a like phone plug
[18:45] <nagyv> baal: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:45] <beex> moreati: sorry for the delay.  this compy isn't hooked up to the internets, so I'm having trouble
[18:45] <tomsq> hi is there any Ace Mega Codecs for ubuntu linux
[18:46] <beex> I'll keep looking though
[18:46] <beex> thank you for the help!
[18:46] <EvilBro> I did export --help, so it and figured the -p was for print.... mistake?
[18:46] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, yes i try this in the same thing
[18:46] <gregbrady> dan__ did the instructions I sent you work?
[18:46] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> i'm using a wireless connection with a reciever being connected to a like phone plug
[18:46] <moreati> beex: np, good luck
[18:46] <Bobbe> tomsq: ubuntu install appropriate codecs as you try to open the files
[18:46] <amenado> Keegan-> one more thing you can try, is remove your internal hard drive to force it?  just a thought, to really test your bios
[18:46] <Bobbe> *installs
[18:46] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> keep in mind... using Xubuntu...
[18:46] <soundray> EvilBro: why don't you just do what I suggested
[18:46] <hexa> pianoboy3333: and now?
[18:47] <mustard_man> armyman007: so you are using a POTS modem in a laptop?
[18:47] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, ok installation begin
[18:47] <Keegan> amenado: Thats a good idea I'll try that right now.  Be back with results!
[18:47] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, thx ;)
[18:47] <pianoboy3333> hexa: "sudo apt-get install camorama && camorama"
[18:47] <nagyv> baal: welcome
[18:47] <Montego> Is this Ubuntu help channel?
[18:47] <Flare183> baal: no problem
[18:47] <moreati> ArmyMan007: how do you mean that the receiver is connected to  like a phone? Does the lead go from your computer to a small aerial, or does it go into the wall?
[18:47] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> using a desktop PC
[18:47] <moreati> Montego: yes
[18:47] <Bobbe> I have a question regarding network-manager. My fixed IPconnection won't work every time I reboot. I have to go to network-manager, but it is all right there. I have to change something to wrong and then change it back to right (as it was before I 'unlocked') and it works
[18:47] <hexa> pianoboy3333: Couldn't connect to video device bla bla
[18:47] <nagyv> tomsq: yes, it's called Rhytmnbox or vlc or mplayer
[18:47] <mdeslaur> I've just installed Gutsy on a Celeron 1.4 with 512 megs. When the user's desktop is idle, cpu usage is 100%. If I open gnome-system-monitor, cpu is used 100% between it and xorg. Any ideas?
[18:48] <pianoboy3333> hexa: reboot and try again
[18:48] <nagyv> tomsq: you don't need codec pacs per se
[18:48] <d7> Can anyone help me with my problem ? Whenever my laptop goes into sleep mode, it never wakes up!!
[18:48] <mustard_man> Armyman007: But you are using a telephone modem?
[18:48] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> someone told me the other day it's a sort of an RJ plug of some kind
[18:48] <hexa> pianoboy3333: uhm okay, in 5 minutes, got something to do until then...
[18:48] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> wireless...
[18:48] <pianoboy3333> hexa
[18:48] <pianoboy3333> hexa: ok
[18:48] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: You installed xubuntu gutsy on a 512 MB partition?
[18:48] <nagyv> d7: try google, search for your laptop, Linux and sleep
[18:48] <SeveredCross> RJ45
[18:48] <EvilBro> soundray: because I'm also trying to understand what I'
[18:48] <ubuntun00b14> I installed Frostwire, but when i launch it nothing happens
[18:48] <moreati> ArmyMan007: is it Rj45 or RJ11 by any chance?
[18:48] <Montego> Does anyone know how I can find the bootscan log? Something failed when I rebooted but don't know what it was.
[18:48] <EvilBro> m doing
[18:48] <d7> ok nagyv
[18:48] <shenshei_> someone know why my network configuration is cleared every 5 minutes ? and then I lost my internet connection
[18:48] <EvilBro> :)
[18:49] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> I can't tell... sorry...
[18:49] <EvilBro> I'll try whether it worked now...
[18:49] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: no, I installed regular ubuntu on a pc with 512 megs of ram
[18:49] <Bobbe> shenshei_: every five minutes or when you reboot? cause if it's when you reboot we have the same problem
[18:49] <mustard_man> Armyman, so are you using DSL with 802.11?
[18:49] <shenshei_> every 5 minutes
[18:50] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: oh, sorry, I've got xubuntu on my mind right now if you know what I mean. ;D It happens when your idle and not using it?
[18:50] <Bobbe> shenshei_: weird man
[18:50] <moreati> ArmyMan007: which of these does it look like http://www.blinn.edu/acadtech/resnet/rj11-45.gif
[18:50] <ArmyMan007> mustard_man -> em... ha?
[18:50] <soundray> d7: many of these problems can't be solved due to hardware limitations. Do have a look at tuxmobil.org though, it lists installation reports for various laptop models among other things.
[18:50] <Montego> I have no idea what the boot scan log is called Ive searched and nothing is found that I can see fits the discription of a boot scan Log
[18:50] <hacknperl> anyone have trouble enabling "Paint fire" in compiz?  i dont see any effects when it is enabled.... everything else is workinggrerat
[18:50] <shenshei_> yes I knoiw
[18:50] <amenado> Bobbe-> what is the problem again? you have to set to wrong to make it right? what?
[18:50] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: as opposed to when you are using it
[18:50] <shenshei_> I am on hardy
[18:50] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: yep, just having gnome-system-monitor open causes the computer to use 100% of the cpu between gnome-system-monitor and xorg
[18:50] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> ethernet
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> hacknperl, What buttons are you pressing to paint fire
[18:51] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> 45 I think...
[18:51] <hacknperl> uhm none... lol
[18:51] <hacknperl> i thought it painted fir when you closed a winodw
[18:51] <soundray> d7: it's also worth having a look at /etc/default/acpi-support -- some of the suspend-related settings are in there with brief documentation
[18:51] <ArmyMan007> oh
[18:51] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> wait
[18:51] <Bobbe> amenado: every time i reboot my internet will stop working. I open network-manager, but all the info there is right. I change my ip to a wrong address, and then change it back to the right address, and then it works.
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> shenshei_, You need to go to #Ubuntu+1 to ask your questions
[18:51] <murilo> Bobbe: i don`t have ipv4 Oo
[18:51] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> the router is being connected to this computer (as in the XP which I'm using right now)
[18:51] <hacknperl> what buttons are you suposed to push and what is the "Super" key?
[18:51] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: hm, I've got about the same amount of RAM (but my distro is two years older),
[18:51] <syntaxerror55> hacknperl: the windows key
[18:52] <Bobbe> murilo: no ipv6 in brazil that I know of =P
[18:52] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> I need help with the other computer (the Xubuntu) which does NOT have a router
[18:52] <hacknperl> thought so
[18:52] <amenado> Bobbe-> that dont make sense, but, can you paste into pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces  file please
[18:52] <shenshei_> ok thanks
[18:52] <Prefix> teh suoer key is the monopoly's logo key
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hacknperl, Super key ask has a MS logo
[18:52] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, now can't find libnucurses or lidncurses, any help?
[18:52] <Prefix> super*
[18:52] <Prefix> the*
[18:52] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: type 'top' into a terminal and tell me what happens.
[18:52] <murilo> Bobbe: so..
[18:52] <moreati> Montego: the router, is it plugged into the XP machine, or is the XP machine your router?
[18:52] <allass> where is it best to put iptables scripts?
[18:52] <baal> nagyv, Flare183, when i try ./configure
[18:52] <amenado> murilo-> i already told you that address you pasted earlier was ipv4, why do you keep on insisting its not ipv4?
[18:52] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> i do believe keeping this up on a privet network would be better...
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> hacknperl, I have cool blue flames
[18:53] <Flare183> nagyv: you are going to have to help I'm really kinda of busy right now
[18:53] <Montego> moreati wrong guy
[18:53] <nagyv> baal: to compile you always need the header files, they usually end on -dev
[18:53] <Montego> not my question
[18:53] <murilo> amenado: man, you aren`t understanding me...
[18:53] <nagyv> so look for libncurses-dev
[18:53] <moreati> Montego: sorry, try /var/log/messages and the dmesg command
[18:53] <nagyv> or rather libncurses5-dev
[18:53] <murilo> amenado: here, with live cd i`m on the internet
[18:53] <murilo> i have ipv4
[18:53] <nagyv> baal: ^^
[18:53] <amenado> murilo okay
[18:53] <murilo> i`m at irc and more
[18:54] <Montego> moreati thanks will try it
[18:54] <moreati> ArmyMan007: I'd like to stick here so others can jump in, is that ok. or are you struggling to follow?
[18:54] <Bobbe> amenado: actually it does. When I change something everything is unselectable for a few seconds. When I do that after putting the right info (back) on, everything works
[18:54] <Bobbe> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59030/
[18:54] <Zmajci> Hi. Seem that Flash is broken again?? It does not install, md5cheksum mismatch... anyone knows more?
[18:54] <murilo> in my hard disk install no
[18:54] <Bobbe> this is how it looks when the internet is work AND when it isn't
[18:54] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> I don't want to disturb you helping others, however it's really important to me to get this thing on quick
[18:54] <killown> does ubuntu has alsaconf?
[18:55] <EvilBro> Hmmm... a partial succes.  The program still won't start from the menu (although it will start from a terminal.
[18:55] <baal> nagyv: one minute
[18:55] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: top's got gnome-system-monitor at 58.8% of cpu and Xorg at 31.3% of cpu
[18:55] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> if you have a messenger of sime kind it would be the best keep on talking from there...
[18:55] <killown> I cannot get my sound cark working..
[18:55] <killown> how do i to configure sound card in ubuntu?
[18:55] <soundray> EvilBro: that's because the variable setting you did with export only affects the terminal session where you did it.
[18:55] <Zmajci> !brokenflash
[18:55] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[18:55] <amenado> Bobbe please add entries for broadcast
[18:55] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: Wait, gnome-system-monitor is using more then Xorg? Er....
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> killown, YOu need to recompile alsa with each kernel.. /join #Alsa if you need more info
[18:56] <EvilBro> soundray: is there a gconf-setting I can alter or something then?
[18:56] <amenado> Bobbe please add entries for broadcast and auto eth0 at the end
[18:56] <nagyv> baal: usually it's a good idea to check the INSTALL file that came with the program, and then check for the Required programs. This way you can check in advance whether they are installed or not.
[18:56] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: is gnome-system-monitor even open?
[18:56] <hacknperl> ok i have fire working.... dont see the point though.... cool though
[18:56] <soundray> EvilBro: I suggest you write a wrapper script for your program that sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately and then calls your program
[18:56] <allass> do I have to remove NetworkManager to set iptables manually?
[18:56] <amenado> allass nope
[18:57] <amenado> allass iptables is separate tool
[18:57] <allass> amenado: so I ignore it and just save my rules normally?
[18:57] <moreati> ArmyMan007: type /msg moreati hi to start a pivate chat
[18:57] <baal> nagyv: that i can find there advices about needed compilers?
[18:57] <amenado> murilo, can you paste into pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces  file please from your desktop as you call it
[18:57] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: yeah, it's open
[18:57] <EvilBro> soundray: what I don't get is why this program (pidgin) won't look in /usr/local/lib while other self-compiled programs (like maxima for instance) will, assuming they use libs too...
[18:57] <Bobbe> amenado: that will do it?
[18:57] <gabyboer> hello everybody, can i ask someone for a bit of help with ubuntu?
[18:58] <nagyv> baal: the compiler is gcc, the other packages are kind of helpers for the compiler. And in that file you can see what helpers are needed.
[18:58] <moreati> gabyboer: don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:58] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: whatever application I open, graphics display seems to be taking up all cpu
[18:58] <amenado> allass iptables is a separate tool from network manager, they operate independently
[18:58] <soundray> EvilBro: the other thing that *might* work (instead of the variable setting) is to install the libpurple0 package -- or did you have to compile that one yourself, too?
[18:58] <hacknperl> What are the effects of using a remote desktop connection when you have multiple display on the host?
[18:58] <amenado> Bobbe-> auto load when rebooting
[18:58] <hacknperl> how does it handle it?
[18:58] <ThRixXx> hey, all my friends use MIRC on windows and im using XCHAT
[18:59] <eeeandrew> hi guys anyone help me with openoffice? I've got a lab report to type up for Uni. I need to be able to draw waveforms taken from an oscilliscope screen. Any ideas?
[18:59] <Bobbe> amenado: adding the broadcast to the interfaces will make it auto-load, or do I have to make it auto-load?
[18:59] <ThRixXx> How do i filter out "has joined" "has quit" on XCHAT ?
[18:59] <baal> nagyv: ok i understood, i reading readme, thx for your attention!
[18:59] <moreati> eeeandrew: what format are the wave forms in?
[18:59] <ArmyMan007> hey... won't work...
[18:59] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: That's very odd.
[18:59] <EvilBro> soundray: that was compiled with pidgin and installed in /usr/local/lib. I can place a link in /usr/lib/ to that file and it will run. I was just wondering how I can make it scan /usr/local/lib and /usr/lib...
[18:59] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> PM won't work...
[18:59] <soundray> eeeandrew: do you have to draw them "from scratch"?
[18:59] <mdeslaur> syntaxerror55: yeah...looks like a driver problem of some sort...
[19:00] <hacknperl> Ubuntu has me addicted to computers all over again.... this is bad... i am wasting a total day playing with this new etup on my system... heheh... i love it
[19:00] <eeeandrew> moreati I have them drawn on paper in my lab book but I need to draw them on screen for the report
[19:00] <amenado> Bobbe-> auto-load does,  broadcast so it would know the broadcast address
[19:00] <soundray> EvilBro: by setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH :)
[19:00] <syntaxerror55> mdeslaur: I thought gnome-system-monitor wasn't responding...hm...I don't really know, but that could be it. It's over my head. D:
[19:00] <joe__> !flash
[19:00] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:00] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> i've already registerd... how to log in?
[19:00] <drc> ThRixXx:  right click on the channel (left column) and make sure Shoe join/part is NOT checked
[19:00] <moreati> eeeandrew: ArmyMan007 one sec
[19:00] <ThRixXx> THANKS !
[19:00] <EvilBro> soundray: but I didn't do that with previous versions (that I compiled myself as well) and they all ran without a hitch
[19:01] <nagyv> baal: be prepared that usually you might need some creativity to find out from the requirements list the package name
[19:01] <bradley_> can anyone here help me get Compiz working with an ATI Mobiltiy Radeon card....
[19:01] <iNeo> is there someone with a working /etc/toprc file?, looking for an example
[19:01]  * soundray shrugs at EvilBro
[19:01]  * bradley_ needs help
[19:01] <sfears_> in order to get my internal wireless working i need to go thru a bunch of steps.. i'm hoping someone can help make it a little easier... step 1 "modprobe acerhk" to load the drivers, step 2 "echo 1 > /proc/drivers/acerhk/wirelessled" to turn on the wireless card, step 3 "ifdown wlan1" to unbound whatever it automatically binds to, step 4 "ifup wlan1" to connect to my wireless network.. i like having to load the module, that way no one
[19:01] <sfears_>  can use my internet.. but after that's loaded is there an easier way to get an IP address???
[19:01] <nagyv> ! ATI | nagyv
[19:01] <Bobbe> Bobbe: but that's exact the problem. It's not auto-loading
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, Yes it can be done...
[19:02] <dpt> Hi
[19:02] <EvilBro> soundray: I'll just place the link then (hoping I won't forget to do so the next time I compile it myself).
[19:02] <Bobbe> Every time it reboots I have to go to Networkmanager and re-enter the info you just saw in the file
[19:02] <sfears_> hello dpt
[19:02] <bradley_> Jack_Sparrow: can u help me cause the last 4 ppl all told me to do similair things that dont work
[19:02] <nagyv> iNeo: did you check the wiki already? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:02] <baal> nagyv:  ;) i try use imagination on that cause
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, Which card and have you enabled the restricted drivers or tried to install some other driver
[19:02] <baal> nagyv:  :)
[19:02] <fuhreal> Can anyone help me figure out why knetworkmanager doesn't seem to be loading?
[19:02] <hacknperl> bradley whats the problem?  ill try to help
[19:02] <dpt> Hello
[19:02] <nagyv> baal: that's what I like! :)
[19:03] <iNeo> nagyv: I will have a look, but google gave me nothing
[19:03] <dpt> I accidentally changes file permissions under /usr, now i have problems running thing like startx as a normal user, is there a way to restore the changes I did?
[19:03] <bradley_> Jack_Sparrow I have mobility radoen X1400.... and i have tried to install the ATI drivers, but i think there is a better way to do it
[19:03] <sfears_> in order to get my internal wireless working i need to go thru a bunch of steps.. i'm hoping someone can help make it a little easier... step 1 "modprobe acerhk" to load the drivers, step 2 "echo 1 > /proc/drivers/acerhk/wirelessled" to turn on the wireless card, step 3 "ifdown wlan1" to unbound whatever it automatically binds to, step 4 "ifup wlan1" to connect to my wireless network.. i like having to load the module, that way no one
[19:03] <sfears_>  can use my internet.. but after that's loaded is there an easier way to get an IP address???
[19:03] <dpt> I've searched on google without much results.
[19:03] <iNeo> nagyv: No example in the community
[19:04] <baal> nagyv:  i new linux user but i enjoy
[19:04] <bradley_>  Jack_Sparrow I have mobility radoen X1400.... and i have tried to install the ATI drivers, but i think there is a better way to do it
[19:04] <sfears_> mabey some sort of script that recognizes when the module is loaded & then automatically runs a few commands?
[19:04] <iNeo> !toprc
[19:04] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[19:05] <nagyv> iNeo: then try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=compiz&titlesearch=C%C3%ADmek
[19:05] <amenado> sfears_-> why not attempt to write a script to automate what you just described?
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, I dont have much time, I am supposed to leave in a few...  If you have composite enabled in xorg, you need to disable that...  (or you get jerky video) and you would need to install fglrx, xserver-xgl for a start
[19:05] <amenado> murilo have i lost you?
[19:05] <moreati> ArmyMan007: I can't sign into msn messenger, either we have to do it here or i can't help
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, Does fglrxinfo show ati or mesa
[19:05] <dpt> is there a way to restore file permission changes applies on a folder?
[19:05] <hexa> bradley_: how did u install it?
[19:05] <bradley_> Jack_Sparrow mesa
[19:05] <iNeo> nagyv: /etc/toprc has nothing to do with compiz
[19:06] <soundray> dpt: only from backup
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, So you have it all messd up
[19:06] <nagyv> iNeo: oops, sorry
[19:06] <iNeo> It the system global config file for top
[19:06] <bradley_> hexa: from the ATI file... i built and installed it but, nothing diffrent is a hppening
[19:06] <ArmyMan007> moreati -> I guess i'll just have to get back here tommarow... goodbye... thanks anyway :-)
[19:06] <bradley_> Jack_Sparrow: how do i un mess ot up
[19:06] <dpt> That menas if i don't have a DVD/CD with my files i won't be able to restore what i did?
[19:06] <DrFastolfe> hi there
[19:06] <iNeo> nagyv: Thanks for the respons
[19:06] <hexa> bradley_: you downloaded the driver from the ati page?
[19:06] <bradley_> hexa: yep
[19:06] <hexa> then chmod +x ati-driver*
[19:07] <eeeandrew> moreati: u have any ideas on drawing that waveform?
[19:07] <bradley_> hexa: yep
[19:07] <sfears_> amenado is there possibly something i could configure to handle that instead of writing something new
[19:07] <moreati> eeeandrew: Either you can use OpenOfficer.org Drawing or generate the graph in Calc, if it follows a mathematical function
[19:07] <bradley_> hexa: then did the sudo thingy
[19:07] <hexa> then execute it in console with ./ati-driver<TAB> --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy
[19:07] <DrFastolfe> any persoan can speak spanish here?
[19:07] <hexa> this will produce several deb-packages
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> bradley_, Here are my notes on setting those up.. see the xorg changes and how to get fglrx off mesa..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59036/
[19:07] <soundray> dpt: it could be any backup, but you need one -- unless you know what the permissions were before you changed them, in which case you can revert them by hand
[19:07] <hexa> which you can install by typing sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:07] <wxPython> hello
[19:07] <soundray> !es | DrFastolfe
[19:07] <moreati> DrFastolfe: try #ubuntu-es
[19:07] <ubotwo> DrFastolfe: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:08] <nagyv> baal: good luck with compiling! I have to leave now.
[19:08] <yaro> Does anyone know how to change to OUTGOING ssh port?
[19:08] <eeeandrew> moreati:thanks I'll give it a shot
[19:08] <DrFastolfe> thx very much buddys
[19:08] <bradley_> hexa: no i did it with a sudo then the file name
[19:08] <DrFastolfe> Hasta la vista!
[19:08] <baal> nagyv:  thx, see next time
[19:08] <hexa> bradley_: have u got the .deb packages in the same folder now?
[19:08] <wxPython> is there a freenode channel to discuss about ubuntu 8.04?
[19:08] <moreati> eeeandrew: you should be able to draw the graph in Drawing with a curve or polyline, if that means anything
[19:08] <bradley_> hexa: what do u mean its a .run when i downloaded
[19:08] <crdlb> wxPython: #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <LjL> !hardy > wxPython    (wxPython, see the private message from Ubotu)
[19:08] <soundray> !hardy | wxPython
[19:08] <ubotwo> wxPython: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[19:08] <nonix4> Umm, will I lock the only admin account of an ubuntu box if I try to brute-force the forgotten password? (locally w/ ssh access to the mentioned account but can't run sudo nor passwd successfully w/out remembering that)
[19:09] <wxPython> thank you
[19:09] <dpt> What do you mean by any backup?? maybe something like a LiveCD be of any use?
[19:09] <bobbed_> amenado, my problem's with hardy. I didn't know there was an alternate channel. Sorry man
[19:09] <bobbed_> my connection worked fine in gutsy
[19:09] <yaro> Does anyone know how to change to OUTGOING ssh port?
[19:09] <bradley_> hexa: i did a sudo... not what u said
[19:09] <soundray> dpt: possibly, if the directory where you mangled the permissions is on it
[19:09] <moreati> nonix4: I don't believe so, but bruteforcing over ssh will take a long time
[19:09] <dpt> I think i solved to problem i had to startx
[19:10] <hexa> bradley_: it doesn't change anything.
[19:10] <dpt> great, thanks soundray
[19:10] <moreati> yaro: you mean the ssh port that the server listens on?
[19:10] <sfears_> in order to get my internal wireless working i need to go thru a bunch of steps.. i'm hoping someone can help make it a little easier... step 1 "modprobe acerhk" to load the drivers, step 2 "echo 1 > /proc/drivers/acerhk/wirelessled" to turn on the wireless card, step 3 "ifdown wlan1" to unbound whatever it automatically binds to, step 4 "ifup wlan1" to connect to my wireless network.. i like having to load the module, that way no one
[19:10] <sfears_>  can use my internet.. but after that's loaded is there an easier way to get an IP address???
[19:10] <dpt> I'll come back if i have any more trouble. tks for the help. Until any soon.
[19:10] <nonix4> moreati: well the set of possible passwords is relatively small, only couple thousand...
[19:10] <soundray> sfears_: it's been suggested that you write that script. What's wrong with that suggestion?
[19:10] <yaro> moreati: NO! I mean outgoing port.
[19:11] <amenado> bobbed ?
[19:11] <sfears_> it's a good suggestion
[19:11] <soundray> sfears_: but you're repeating your question with a frequency that borders on spamming
[19:11] <sfears_> i'm still looking for a better one
[19:11] <mustard_man> sfears: are you just looking to be able to type less?
[19:11] <moreati> yaro: as in the port randomly assigned to the client side of the connection? Good luck with that
[19:11] <sfears_> i'm looking for a configurable way to do it mustard_man
[19:12] <bradley_> hexa: so what do i do do get it working?
[19:12] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[19:12] <soundray> sfears_: a script would be as configurable as you make it
[19:12] <sfears_> yeah.. but i'm not looking to script anything
[19:12] <amenado> sfears_-> and why not?
[19:12] <yaro> moreati: Are you serious?
[19:13] <bradley_> hexa: so what do i do
[19:13] <mustard_man> sfears: if typing those commands into a file and saving it so that you just have to type something like"go" intop a terminal is too much work, but you stuill want to have to do something that other users of the computer won't know to do....
[19:13] <iNeo> !toprc
[19:13] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sfears_, You have typed more in this channel than you would have typed writing thatg script.. Is there any legitimate reason you dont jus make a bash script for that
[19:13] <moreati> yaro: as far as I know, when a clent makes a connection to a service such as sshd, the client side port is randomly assigned and that is not configurable. What is it you're trying to achieve?
[19:13] <wxPython> please visit this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361
[19:13] <sfears_> that's only one way.. i'm looking to see if anyone knows any other ways
[19:13] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 18361 in gnome-panel "Odd selection launchers/menu" [Low,Confirmed]
[19:14] <wxPython> this nasty bug is present for years now
[19:14] <amenado> sfears_-> i know of another way, pay someone to write the script for you
[19:14] <wxPython> why is there no attention to it?
[19:14] <hexa> bradley: execute it in console with ./ati-driver<TAB> --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sfears_, The only way to do a list of commands that you want, in the order you want is to script them.
[19:15] <hexa> bradley_: this will get u several .deb packages which u have to install
[19:15] <gabyboer> could someone tell me how to uninstall ubuntu please?
[19:15] <bradley_> hexa: how do i excute it?
[19:15] <mustard_man> sfears: how about if you let the computer run a scrip to do all of that, but you type something like "neton" and "netoff" to enable/disable the network?
[19:15] <sfears_> i'm not sure that's it's necessary to run all those commands.. it's just the only way i've gotten it to work
[19:15] <Simulation> just rm -fr /*
[19:15] <sfears_> when i load ndiswrapper i don't need to go thru those steps.. it just picks up an IP
[19:15] <Bruce> anyone around who could help me with xchat and the blowfish plugin from fish.sekure.us ?
[19:15] <hexa> bradley_: ./ati-driver-filename-version-bla.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy
[19:16] <moreati> gabyboer: do you wan't to replace it with anything? or does the machine already dual boot into Windows (or whatever)?
[19:16] <mustard_man> sfears: so really, you just need to load ndiswrapper?
[19:16] <amenado> sfears_-> i also suggest you write these steps down, you're bound to forget it sooner or later
[19:16] <sfears_> no.. because i'm not using ndiswrapper.. i'm using acerhk
[19:16] <sfears_> already written
[19:17] <ubuntun00b14> Frostwire won't start... and ive updated to the latest version of Java
[19:17] <soundray> sfears_: do you understand why you have to go through this procedure?
[19:17] <sfears_> different drivers for different cards
[19:17] <yaro> moreati: A friend of mine's SSH is *blocked.* And I'm pretty sure I can get her tunneling if she uses port 80. Got that port open on my end.
[19:17] <murilo> amenado: =]
[19:17] <gabyboer> i have both windows and ubuntu, so i-d like to only have windows
[19:17] <sfears_> because my hardware manufacturer decided to put extra buttons on the keyboard
[19:17] <amenado> murilo have i lost you?
[19:18] <ubuntun00b14> can anyone help me get frostwire running?
[19:18] <moreati> yaro: port 80 would be the server side port, what the server listens on. If you want that then it's set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:18] <amenado> sfears even more so, not every one uses acer...so you customize per your acer system needs
[19:18] <bradley_> hexa: ok its doing something
[19:18] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: what have you done so far?
[19:18] <sfears_> i load the driver.. could be automatic.. i'm not 100% on the echo thing.. then the ifup & ifdown.. i'm not sure why it binds to something wierd when i turn it on, but it does
[19:18] <soundray> sfears_: that doesn't quite hit the spot. The problem seems to be that your WLAN is off when you boot. So go to the BIOS setup and make sure WLAN is on at boot. Then you won't need the echo 1 thing.
[19:19] <murilo> amenado: consegui!!!
[19:19] <moreati> yaro: if you've already configured the server and you want the ssh client to connect to port 80, then pass the switch -p 80
[19:19] <jester7> anyone know of the known bugs in 8.04 alpha 6?  i mean, anything big?
[19:19] <murilo> amenado: now i'll watch the corinthians soccer game
[19:19] <mustard_man> sfears: you could get an older acer computer that doesn't have so much nonstandard stuff attached to it.  mine's very old from when acer hadalmost no marketshare.  it works.
[19:19] <murilo> thanks
[19:19] <jrib> !hardy | jester7
[19:19] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: ive installed it and when i run from terminal it says "Something went wrong with FrostWire."
[19:19] <ubotwo> jester7: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[19:19] <amenado> murilo so it works now?
[19:19] <sfears_> my keyboard has a wireless button for security reasons.. so i have to press the button to enable wireless.. but it needs a special driver.. the acerhk driver i was talking about
[19:19] <dan__> gregbrady
[19:19] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: how did you install it?
[19:19] <dan__> you still there
[19:19] <amenado> murilo-> are you brazillian?
[19:19] <bradley_> hexa: ok it finished now what???
[19:19] <Nuke_> why might a 4x DVD burn bring the load average to >1.5 on very recent hardware (core2duo@3.3GHz)?
[19:20] <soundray> jester7: ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:20] <pianoboy3333> will this work with ubuntu and the philips camera driver? http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SPC900NC-Camera-Sensor-Interface/dp/B000EIIGYU
[19:20] <corinthians> amenado: yeah
[19:20] <corinthians> =]
[19:20] <corinthians> bye
[19:20] <jester7> jrib: yeah, i checked that but i couldn't find known bugs
[19:20] <hexa> bradley_: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:20] <jester7> soundray: ok
[19:20] <vox> Nuke_: is it sata or ide?
[19:20] <Nuke_> sata
[19:20] <vox> o_O
[19:20] <jrib> jester7: #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion
[19:20] <sfears_> it's not possible to enabe the wireless from the bios
[19:20] <vox> Nuke_: that.. is very odd
[19:20] <vox> i dont have an explaination for that
[19:20] <ubuntun00b14> just downloaded the installation file off the website
[19:20] <yaro> moreati: Its no problem to get her connecting TO port 80 on my machine, that's set up. The problem is getting ehr to connect FROM port 80 on HER machine. Otherwise all the open ports on my machine won't matter if she is being blocked because of blocked outgoing traffic.
[19:20] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: .deb?
[19:21] <gregbrady> dan__ yup still here
[19:21] <Nuke_> vox: yeah, nobody does. any idea where to start looking?
[19:21] <ubuntun00b14> yes
[19:21] <jrib> !who | ubuntun00b14
[19:21] <moreati> Nuke_: perhaps the drive is in PIO mode, rather than DMA. Use hdparm to check
[19:21] <ubotwo> ubuntun00b14: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:21] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: is what you pasted the full output?
[19:21] <box_> Hi, i somehow removed the frames around the windows with the min/close buttons etc... any idea how to make them reappear ?
[19:21] <Haz> let's say i've totally borked my apache2 installation, and i want to revive the default .conf's and stuff, what would be the best way using apt or such to do this? i've tried removing and installing apache2 again but that fails to bring back the .conf's
[19:21] <Nuke_> moreati: the DVD burner?
[19:21] <bradley_> hexa: can u go here #atidriver
[19:21] <Kristof> Hey
[19:21] <moreati> Nuke_: yes, hdparm applies to any ide/sata device
[19:21] <vox> Nuke_: in your bios probably. make sure all your sata setting are sane
[19:22] <sfears_> box "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24" then restart the xserver
[19:22] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: no it says something about java.... so i installed the latest java with automatix
[19:22] <jrib> Haz: apache2.2-common is what you want to purge
[19:22] <Kristof> Can anyone help me with my ubuntu installation?
[19:22] <tbrock> hey what is a great perl editor for gnome
[19:22] <jrib> !automatix | ubuntun00b14
[19:22] <ubotwo> ubuntun00b14: Automatix2 is third-party product which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[19:22] <Nuke_> vox: that's a good point. some of it needed a tweaking when i was messing with OSX
[19:22] <jrib> !pastebin > ubuntun00b14 (read the private message from ubotu)
[19:22] <ompaul> gabyboer, use your windows CD
[19:22] <Haz> jrib: purge? :)
[19:22] <moreati> yaro: I really am not getting what you mean, sorry
[19:22] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: copy and paste the entire output to the pastebin please
[19:23] <onetb> n00b question -> how do I restart audio service, short of restarting X
[19:23] <jrib> Haz: yeah, 'aptitude purge', otherwise it won't touch conf files
[19:23] <vox> Nuke_: some proc use is to be expected, due to i/o wait.. but it shouldnt hammer the system load that hard
[19:23] <yaro> moreati: Okay. I am asking how to change the port on the CLIENT machine to 80, IE outgoing traffic from her end, which is blocked. Not the port on the HOST, the CLIENT.
[19:23] <Kristof> If I want to install something with the default installation program, and I choose a program in the list it says that I have the wrong kind of processor (i386) and it won't let me install it, though I'm sure I've got a 32 bit one and installed the 32 bit OS
[19:23] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59039/
[19:23] <soundray> sfears_: okay, then I suggest you run the modprobe and the echo commands automatically at boot (add them to /etc/rc.local)
[19:24] <Nuke_> during last night's 2x burn: 0.7%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.6%id,  4.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[19:24] <Nuke_> load was around 1.1
[19:24] <yaro> moreati: In other words, get it to stop randomizing the ports and force it to use port eighty.
[19:24] <b0lland> Hi #ubuntu, I'm trying to downgrade a package (libapache2-mod-python), but ubuntu just won't let me. Can anyone advice on the proper way to do such a thing? My failed attempt is shown here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59040/
[19:24] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: what is the output of: update-java-alternatives -l
[19:24] <vox> Nuke_: that sounds about right
[19:24] <moreati> yaro: in my understanding only connections to aport can be blocked. Unless your friend is running an ssh server I cannot see how her ISP could be doing the blovking other than by packet inspection.
[19:24] <Nuke_> vox: except for the load
[19:24] <Nuke_> and resulting slowness
[19:24] <elisboa> onetb: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[19:25] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[19:25] <vox> Nuke_: a load of ~1 is about right
[19:25] <yaro> moreati: It is a school network firewall blocking her, not an ISP.
[19:25] <nicao>  /msg NickServ REGISTER ubuntu77
[19:25] <Nuke_> vox: during a burn?
[19:25] <Nuke_> why?
[19:25] <bicz> nicao: use /ns
[19:25] <onetb> elisboa: pulseaudio not found
[19:25] <nicao> sorry
[19:25] <Nuke_> and it had to be 2x, because 4x or above renders the system unusable
[19:25] <moreati> yaro: doesn't matter, firewalls to my knowledge can't block on the random client port. But I'm not a network engineer
[19:25] <soundray> b0lland: there is no "proper" way to downgrade -- only a forced one: use --force-downgrade (as per man dpkg)
[19:25] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: ok, run 'sudo update-java-alternatives java-6-sun' and run frostwire again
[19:25] <sfears_> let me try somethings in there soundray.. thanks
[19:26] <vox> Nuke_: load is an indication of how many programs are trying to get cputime. when you're burning, there's a lot of cputime involved. a load of around 1-2 is to be expected on a single core machine
[19:26] <soundray> sfears_: good luck
[19:26] <moreati> was anyone else following yaro's problem, did I miss something there?
[19:27] <Keegan> amenado?
[19:27] <b0lland> soundray, thanks for your response, I tried --force-downgrade, but the output is similar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59041/
[19:27] <Nuke_> vox: it's a core2duo, 3.3GHz. cpu usage was practically zero
[19:27] <amenado> Keegan->  yes sir?
[19:27] <onetb> elisboa: was able to execute /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, but sound still gone
[19:27] <Keegan> amenado: I unplugged the hard drive and just had the usb one plugged it and it still doesn't detect it.
[19:28] <b0lland> soundray: it still does this "unpacking replacement libapache2-mod-python" which is a newer package that I don't want
[19:28] <vox> Nuke_: install something like system monitor so you can see what's going on
[19:28] <NemesisD> hi, every once in a while whenever i try to play any sort of video clip, the output will always be some strange pattern where half the video window is purple, the other green. It doesn't get fixed until I restart X. Is this somethign to do with gstreamer or something like that? Anything I can do to reset it without restarting X?
[19:28] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: that command was incomplete... it is asking me for more
[19:28] <Keegan> amenado:  I'm thinking ubuntu kernel or grub doesn't detect usb hard drives without some kind of modications I'm assuming...
[19:28] <Nuke_> vox: watch for what, though?
[19:28] <amenado> Keegan->  that verifies your bios does not really allow yours to boot from a usb drive then
[19:28] <allass> where are the additional package repositories?
[19:28] <vox> Nuke_: system usage
[19:28] <corinthians> coriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinthians
[19:29] <allass> just installed and cannot find some packages on the list
[19:29] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: yeah, you're right.  Hit ctrl-c and run: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun'
[19:29] <Keegan> amenado:  Why have the option in bios if it doesn't commit to it?
[19:29] <Nuke_> define "system usage"? you mean system cpu time?
[19:30] <amenado> Keegan-> i dont know, maybe you need to update your bios, maybe the hardware is not detecting correctly
[19:30] <vox> Nuke_: overall system usage. it will show you alot of what is going on, in a graphical format
[19:30] <user01> what is a good webcam to get that is well supported by linux?
[19:30] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: same output as before when i try to run frostwire again
[19:30] <moreati> !universe | allass
[19:30] <Keegan> amenado: I'm going to try updating the bios.  Thanks for your all help though I really appreciate it.
[19:30] <ubotwo> allass: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[19:30] <eth01> user01, try trust? :)
[19:30] <kostkon> user01, most of logitech cams work
[19:30] <Nuke_> vox: the paste of system usage from top indicates very little in use
[19:30] <Nuke_> should there be something else to look for?
[19:30] <PaloAlto> hello
[19:30] <PaloAlto> im having trouble with ln
[19:30] <user01> kostkon, any i should avoid?
[19:30] <PaloAlto> ln /home/aucampia/docbook/fop-0.94/fop /usr/sbin/fop
[19:30] <PaloAlto> ln: creating hard link `/usr/sbin/fop' to `/home/aucampia/docbook/fop-0.94/fop': Invalid cross-device link
[19:30] <amenado> Keegan-> no problem, do you still like to try ubuntu though?
[19:30] <ompaul> !offtopic | corinthians
[19:31] <PaloAlto> any advice ?
[19:31] <ubotwo> corinthians: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:31] <onetb> anyone else have an idea about how to get sound back?  already restarted alsa-utils
[19:31] <Keegan> amenado: I've been using ubuntu for awhile now I wanted it on an external drive.
[19:31] <amenado> PaloAlto-> they are in different partitions?
[19:31] <moreati> PaloAlto: use ln -s to create a symbolic link
[19:31] <user01> eth01, ok which one should i trust to work with linux?
[19:31] <PaloAlto> h
[19:31] <corinthians> ompaul: sorry...
[19:31] <PaloAlto> ah
[19:31] <eth01> user01, i really don't know.
[19:31] <PaloAlto> thanks
[19:31] <corinthians> ompaul: wrong #
[19:31] <kostkon> user01, check this if you want to use the cam with skype: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[19:31] <eth01> user01, any within reason.
[19:32] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59043/
[19:32] <eth01> user01, if its supported on Windows Vista, then i'm 99.99% sure it'll work with Linux.
[19:32] <user01> eth01, yeah skype might be good
[19:32] <vox> Nuke_: im not completely up-to-scratch on how sata interacts with the cpu, but in my experience, load of around 1 is about right
[19:32] <amenado> Keegan oh okay...
[19:33] <Nuke_> vox: i'm still not sure that's right, considering that load goes way above 1 if i burn >2x, but i'll have to look into it more
[19:33] <bradley_> does anyone know how to solve this problem when installing ATI drivers:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5493
[19:33] <bradley_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5493
[19:34] <ompaul> !ati | bradley_ (all the accurate instructions you need)
[19:34] <ubotwo> bradley_ (all the accurate instructions you need): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:34] <onetb> anyone else have an idea about how to get sound back?  already restarted alsa-utils
[19:34] <Montego> Ive been using ubuntu fro about 3 months now. Is there a Stable Browser? Firefox sucks on Linux. Crash after crash. I have tried opera epiphany and Konquer. Nothing seems to work very well. Not wanting to go back to Windows. But can't seem to get anything done with any reasonable confidence. ANy Help on this matter would be appreciated.
[19:34] <bradley_> ompaul: that doesnt work for me
[19:34] <hexa> kostkon: do you have some knowledge bout logitech quickcams?
[19:34] <XnouMenon> I need help updating Java and installing the latest Java plugins for Firefox. I downloaded the .bin and opened it to my home folder. Now, from here, I have no idea what to do.
[19:35] <onetb> I have only had FF issue since setting up compiz.  might cut back on the extras.  FF montego: is awesome in Ubuntu and opensuse for me
[19:35] <Itaku> i deleted /bin/rm and /bin/rmdir how do i get them back?
[19:35] <b0lland> Hi #ubuntu, I'm trying to downgrade a package (libapache2-mod-python), but ubuntu just won't let me. Can anyone advice on the proper way to do such a thing? My failed attempt is shown here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59040/ I also tried using --force-downgrade http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59041/
[19:35] <moreati> Montego: when does firefox crash, is it whilst browsing particular sites, or when watching videos?
[19:35] <kostkon> hexa, why do you ask?
[19:35] <hexa> kostkon: i don't seem to be able to compile the qc-usb-messenger driver given on this page
[19:35] <ompaul> bradley_, what version of ubuntu?
[19:35] <Montego> Crashes dutting video and Popup blocking . No matter what Site Im on
[19:35] <hexa> neither in gutsy nor hardy
[19:35] <bradley_> the 7.10 gutsy
[19:36] <Montego> durring
[19:36] <amenado> XnouMenon-> first  man update-alternatives  to give you some idea what to do next
[19:36] <moreati> Montego: what extensions do you have installed?
[19:36] <XnouMenon> amenado, ok, I'll try that. Thanks.
[19:37] <bradley_> ompaul: 7.10
[19:37] <ompaul> bradley_, so what you do is this to start: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose ati and get yourself a basic working system, after that you do the non obvious System Admin Restricted Drivers thing then you restart the machine and it is working
[19:37] <ubuntun00b14> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59044/  Thats the output I get when trying to start Frostwire... can anyone help?
[19:37] <olimpico> My cups is not detecting my printers since the last update, can someone help me?
[19:37] <Montego> Not sure off hand. I can paste it to the website.
[19:37] <kostkon> hexa, are you sure do you need this driver to make your cam work?
[19:37] <Nuke_> is it bad if hdparm doesn't mark any of the IO modes as active for my primary hard drive?
[19:38] <macdunbar> can someone help me patch and compile a kernel?
[19:38] <olimpico> I have tried removeing them and then installing them again, but only one is detected and then when I add it, it doesn't work
[19:38] <moreati> Montego: please do. Also, are you comfortable using the command line?
[19:38] <Itaku> i deleted /bin/rm and /bin/rmdir how do i get them back?
[19:38] <amenado> olimpico-> what kind of printers? is the printer a network printer? attached to another host?
[19:38] <olimpico> amenado: USB
[19:38] <cjones> whats a good p2p clent that i can apt-get
[19:39] <olimpico> amenado: They were working perfectly well, till the last update
[19:39] <ubuntun00b14> Can someone help me get Frostwire working?  Here is the ouput I get when starting it in Terminal  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59044/
[19:39] <hexa> kostkon: the wiki page says so
[19:39] <amenado> Itaku-> maybe copy it from livecd
[19:39] <olimpico> cjones: amule
[19:39] <bradley_> ompaul: it says please select a package to reconfigure
[19:39] <Montego> moreati Not real good at it but can try it. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
[19:39] <moreati> Itaku: apt-get install --reinstall core-utils
[19:39] <ompaul> bradley_, my instructions where>>>               sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:39] <olimpico> cjones: And of course rtorrent, that's the best of all!!!!
[19:39] <XnouMenon> amenado, I think that man update-alternatives guide is a little over my head. : (
[19:40] <amenado> olimpico is the printer dectected via  lsusb?
[19:40] <cjones> thanks guys
[19:40] <cjones> amule
[19:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !ushare > Paddy_EIRE
[19:40] <cjones> ops wron window
[19:40] <olimpico> amenado: Yes, both!!1
[19:40] <amenado> XnouMenon-> well you know if its overly confusing, you can then use google to find an easier explaination perhaps?
[19:40] <Itaku> moreati: E: Couldn't find package core-utils
[19:40] <olimpico> amenado: But cups is not able to finde them
[19:41] <amenado> olimpico-> you can re-install cups
[19:41] <Itaku> amenado i tried but couldnt find it
[19:41] <moreati> Itaku: sorry, coreutils
[19:41] <bradley_> ompaul: it has a screen where it wants me to choice an Xserver Driver
[19:41] <cjones> olimpico is rtorrent just torrents?
[19:41] <pinstp> i downloaded gnome splashscreen manager and installed it but have no idea of were it is on the hard drive
[19:41] <ompaul> bradley_, and I said ati ..
[19:41] <XnouMenon> amenado, I've found about 3 guides on google and none of them have worked. The last one I looked up told me to cd ~/.mozilla and I got the feed back "bash something something mozilla not found" so I couldn't use the rest of the guide.
[19:41] <Itaku> moreati it wont do it cuz apt-get needs the rm command
[19:42] <Itaku> to remove the archive
[19:42] <Itaku> when its done
[19:42] <XnouMenon> amenado, if I could find my mozilla folder perhaps I could make it work.... but I'm not sure how to do that.
[19:42] <moreati> could somebody please pm, to test if it works with pidgin
[19:42] <tony_> Could I jump in here with a quick question?  I'm running Ubuntu „Feisty“, can anybody tell me where I could find „RealPlayer10GOLD“ as a .deb package? Maybe details on a repository to add? Many thanks
[19:42] <moreati> Itaku: one sec
[19:42] <amenado> XnouMenon-> hang a few, i have to use the kings chair
[19:42] <XnouMenon> amenado, ok.
[19:42] <moreati> cheers Itaku it worked
[19:43] <pinstp> i downloaded gnome splashscreen manager and installed it but have no idea of were it is on the hard drive
[19:43] <bradley_> ompaul: now it wants to know my video card's bus id
[19:43] <pinstp> can some one help me
[19:43] <olimpico> cjones: Yes, just torrents, but is the best, all runs on the shell, you can even run ir remote.
[19:43] <moreati> Itaku: are you on 7.10?
[19:43] <Itaku> yes
[19:43] <onetb> pinstp: site you dled from doesn't give any indication?
[19:43] <pinstp> nope
[19:44] <b0lland> is there a general way to totally force an install of a package? I can't avoid dpkg throwing "unpacking replacement package yadayada" in my face, thereby causing the install to fail since the replacement package has unmet dependencies
[19:44] <cjones> olimpice nice but where do i find all the good music torrents
[19:44] <bradley_>  ompaul: now it wants to know my video card's bus identifer
[19:44] <onetb> pinstp: looking into it
[19:44] <ompaul> bradley_, just hit enter for all other items except the resolution where you go 1024/768
[19:44] <pinstp> k
[19:44] <ompaul> bradley_, and stop telling me twice I can't type that fast
[19:44] <Tu13es> I've got a Mac Mini with two 500gb external drives attached via FireWire.  Can I create some sort of RAID 1 of them with Ubuntu?
[19:44] <allass> how do I add repositories in gutsy? the docs seems dated on that.
[19:44] <Montego_>  A second session of chat opened. No idea why
[19:44] <moreati> download http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/coreutils/coreutils_5.97-5.3ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:44] <moreati> install using dpkg -i
[19:44] <XnouMenon> ompaul, if you're talking about reconfiguring xserver-xorg then I think you hit space to take the other resolutions away, not enter. I had that problem a few weeks ago.
[19:44] <moreati> Itaku: ^^
[19:45] <Itaku> ?
[19:45] <Itaku> do what do i type?
[19:45] <Montego_> What do I type into FF to get list of plugins?
[19:45] <bradley_> ompaul: sorry i typed the wrong thing the frist time
[19:45] <capiCrimm> does anyone know a simple program or way to generate simple sound waves?
[19:45] <moreati> Itaku: wget -c http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/coreutils/coreutils_5.97-5.3ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:45] <olimpico> amenado: reinstall, do you think this will change anything?
[19:45] <olimpico> amenado: do I have to remove it completely first?
[19:46] <moreati> Itaku: then sudo dpkg -i coreutils<tab>
[19:46] <ompaul> XnouMenon, there are several ways as long as 1024 is there I am happy anything else is anything else
[19:46] <XnouMenon> ok
[19:46] <amenado> olimpico yes, remove it first then install
[19:46] <Itaku> dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec rm for cleanup: No such file or directory
[19:46] <bradley_> ompaul: after that what do i do
[19:46] <rech> Since I've updated from 7.04 to 7.10, gksu is taking an eternity to auth me (like 30-40 secs) ... Is there any way that I could fix/configure it to take less time?
[19:46] <amenado> XnouMenon-> do you have /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? how about /usr/lib/firefox*/plugins?
[19:46] <moreati> Itaku: have you got another ubuntu 7.10 machine?
[19:47] <Itaku> no
[19:47] <jrib> allass: system -> administration -> software sources (as in the docs)
[19:47] <olimpico> amenado: But it says it will have to remove: bluez-cups cups-pdf cupsys cupsys-driver-gutenprint foomatic-db-hpijs hpijs hplip hplip-gui kubuntu-desktop
[19:47] <Itaku> can you send me yours?
[19:47] <Itaku> just the files
[19:47] <ompaul> bradley_, has it done it all for you?
[19:47] <Itaku> and ill put them in
[19:47] <moreati> Itaku: got an email address?
[19:47] <Itaku> yeah
[19:47] <Itaku> itaku@itaku-networks.com
[19:47] <ompaul> !enter | Itaku
[19:47] <ubotwo> Itaku: <reply> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:47] <Itaku> ...
[19:47] <bradley_> ompaul: yeah i finished the little program thing, now its back in the terminal screen
[19:47] <encryptz> is it possible to right-align the icons on the gnome desktop?
[19:47] <Itaku> im not doing that
[19:47] <onetb> pinstp: /usr/bin/gnome-art ?
[19:47] <ubuntun00b14> Can Someone help me get frostwiree working?
[19:47] <amenado> olimpico-> i dont think it will remove the entire thing, just their dependencies
[19:47] <XnouMenon> amenado, one moment please, let me check.
[19:48] <moreati> Itaku: disclaimer, you should never trust files from random irc people, but I'm sure you'll ignore that
[19:48] <ompaul> bradley_,  log out and back in (if in X) if not go to X and restart it
[19:48] <ubuntun00b14> When I run frostwire in terminal this is my output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59046/
[19:48] <Itaku> yup
[19:48] <Itaku> i ignore that
[19:48] <Wass|> hi there
[19:48] <ignacio> hi
[19:48] <pinstp> onetb: thanks alot man
[19:49] <Wass|> I made a mistake in my fstab and now my ubuntu  boots in read-only FS. :s  is there a way to force booting in rw ?
[19:49] <XnouMenon> amenado, I have the first one
[19:49] <onetb> pinstp: also, /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gnome-splashscreen-manager
[19:49] <goodoo> hey people!
[19:49] <onetb> pinstp: np
[19:49] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: get rid of automatix and the java it installed
[19:49] <RB2> gFTP is always giving me the "no route to host" error. Any suggestions?
[19:49] <amenado> XnouMenon-> then put a symlink to your libjavaplugin.so to that directory
[19:49] <LtYellow> I do not have permissions
[19:49] <goodoo> When i put my hd to sleep with "hdparm -y /dev/sda" it comes back up again immediately. any idea why?
[19:49] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: how do i uninstall it?
[19:49] <XnouMenon> amenado, what's a symlink?
[19:49] <amenado> XnouMenon-> and whatever .so you may need
[19:50] <bradley_> ompaul: it been a black screen for a while now :(
[19:50] <XnouMenon> amenado, is that the ln -s command from the guide?
[19:50] <onetb> any help with restarting audio service?  Stopped working unexpectedly and I dont want to restart
[19:50] <ekevn> .
[19:50] <aryr100> hello all
[19:50] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: I don't know how automatix works.  You're probably better off just reinstalling if you have a fresh install
[19:50] <ompaul> bradley_, type sudo reboot
[19:50] <amenado> XnouMenon-> a virtual copy.. a command like   ln -s source.so destination.so
[19:50] <ompaul> !automatix | ubuntun00b14
[19:50] <ubotwo> ubuntun00b14: Automatix2 is third-party product which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[19:50] <Wass|> please help
[19:50] <XnouMenon> amenado, ok thanks! should I stick around and let you know if it works?
[19:50] <aryr100> anyone know a release date for the ubuntu course ?
[19:50] <bradley_> ok
[19:51] <ompaul> Wass|, got a live cd?
[19:51] <goodoo> When i put my hd to sleep with "hdparm -y /dev/sda" it comes back up again immediately. any idea why?
[19:51] <amenado> XnouMenon-> its up to you, its nice to know the feedback though
[19:51] <dan__> You have to love the Cube compiz rotating screen
[19:51] <Wass|> ompaul : I dont have physical access to the server
[19:51] <dan__> It's the coolest thing since cigarettes
[19:51] <onetb> goodoo: search "hdparm" for a persistance command extension
[19:51] <ompaul> Wass|, you are how you say - in trouble there
[19:51] <luigi_> Ummm... It's been about 3 months, since I've just been kind of procrastinating, but on Christmas Eve my computer suddenly stopped working. I went in through LiveCD and found out that my /boot directory is empty. This happened after a kernel update. Any ideas as to what happened or what I should do? I'd like to avoid a reinstall if possible.
[19:51] <Wass|> :(
[19:52] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: hmm, wait I tried it here and may have a solution.  Install ia32-sun-java6-bin
[19:52] <goodoo> onetb: when you say "search hdparm" you mean google?
[19:52] <bradley_> ompaul: now it s a black screen again
[19:52] <sFEARs> luigi_, did you computer shut down unexpectedly during your update?
[19:52] <ompaul> bradley_, after a reboot?
[19:52] <onetb> goodoo: yeah
[19:52] <sFEARs> your*
[19:52] <Wass|> ompaul : during the boot, cant I just force rw ?
[19:53] <ompaul> Wass|, and how do you propose to do that remotely?
[19:53] <XnouMenon> amenado, it worked! thank you so much! is there any way I can give you props for this in the ubuntu forums or something? : )
[19:53] <bradley_> ompaul: yep
[19:53] <olimpico> amenado: I did it, removed it and reinstalled it, now it doesn't see any printer
[19:53] <ompaul> bradley_, okay log in as you
[19:53] <amenado> XnouMenon-> nothing..am just trying to help
[19:53] <bradley_> ?
[19:53] <ompaul> bradley_, okay log in as you
[19:53] <bradley_> how i can see anything
[19:53] <goodoo> onetb: dont find anything.
[19:54] <LtYellow> I do not have permissions or something?
[19:54] <ompaul> bradley_, do ctrl alt F3
[19:54] <moreati> luigi_: is the installation customised much? If not, just copy the contents of /home with that livecd and reinstall.
[19:54] <XnouMenon> amenado, well, thank you again, i hope i can repay the karmatic debt somehow. have a nice day!
[19:54] <amenado> olimpico-> un-plugged the printer and replugged it in
[19:54] <Wass|> ompaul : I have access to KVM over IP
[19:54] <jrib> LtYellow: permissions for what?  Provide more details as to what you are trying to do
[19:54] <bradley_> ok
[19:54] <onetb> goodoo: never used hdparm, only a suggestion.  may want to check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdparm
[19:54] <ompaul> bradley_, do you see a login prompt?
[19:54] <amenado> XnouMenon-> you're welcome, pass along the spirit of help others in need
[19:55] <LtYellow> jrib: The folder hax an X in KDE and I can't access it
[19:55] <XnouMenon> amenado, will do.
[19:55] <ignacio> anyone know how to use the "windows" key for shortcuts?
[19:55] <ompaul> Wass|, if you can get to the grub screen choose "recovery" but I don't hold out much hope
[19:55] <jrib> LtYellow: again, you need to provide more details.  What folder?
[19:55] <bradley_> obpaul: ok now its like ther terminal except full screen and black
[19:55] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: still with me?
[19:55] <Wass|> ompaul : ok
[19:55] <pianoboy3333> will this work with ubuntu and the philips camera driver? http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SPC900NC-Camera-Sensor-Interface/dp/B000EIIGYU
[19:55] <ompaul> ignacio, System Preferences Keyboard ShortCuts
[19:55] <LtYellow> jrib the home folder from my leopard partiton. The user folder?
[19:55] <goodoo> Guess i should get myself a flash drive.
[19:55] <jose__> hla
[19:56] <moreati> ignacio: there are options under Keyboard Preferences, Layout tab. I'm playing now
[19:56] <ompaul> bradley_, type your username - do you see it on the screen?
[19:56] <bradley_> yeah
[19:56] <jrib> LtYellow: good, did you do anything special to mount it or did it just show up automatically?
[19:56] <ompaul> bradley_, hit enter and put in your password
[19:56] <bradley_> im logged in it says bradley@bradley-laptop:~$
[19:57] <LtYellow> it showed up automatically
[19:57] <jrib> LtYellow: do you know what filesystem that uses?
[19:57] <LtYellow> jrib: it showed up automatically
[19:57] <luigi_> moreati: I'm kind of reluctant to do that, since Dell  (where I got it from) has some extra partitions and stuff with unknown secrets, plus what about /var, /etc and /usr? I have some backups that include /home, /var and /etc, but they're like 40 GB.
[19:57] <LtYellow> jrib: HFS+
[19:57] <moreati> luigi_: did you install this ubuntu, or did dell?
[19:57] <ompaul> bradley_, good, however please use my nick (type omp and hit tab) before you type stuff so I can follow you: please type>>    startx
[19:57] <luigi_> moreati: Dell did
[19:58] <ompaul> bradley_, is anything happening?
[19:58] <bradley_> ompaul: yes
[19:58] <pianoboy3333> will this work with ubuntu and the philips camera driver? http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SPC900NC-Camera-Sensor-Interface/dp/B000EIIGYU
[19:58] <moreati> wow, that's a first for me.
[19:58] <neeto> Is there a command to rescan all of the connected USB devices?
[19:58] <Ash908> is there some quick way or program to print out a file's contents and then monitor it and print out anything new added untill i do like ctrl-c?
[19:58] <amenado> olimpico did it detect ?
[19:58] <bradley_> ompaul: Fatal server error: no screen found
[19:58] <luigi_> sFEARs: no. It told me to restart about three days before it... melted down, but I had waited longer before.
[19:58] <moreati> Ash908: tail -f <name of file>
[19:58] <amenado> Ash908-> tail
[19:59] <jrib> LtYellow: ok, the only way I know for you to setup permissions on that is to edit fstab.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions and let me know if you aren't sure about something
[19:59] <ompaul> bradley_, right now I am going to find that command again just a moment
[19:59] <palomer__> how do I play a DVD disc?
[19:59] <jrib> !dvd > palomer__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[19:59] <LtYellow> jrib: The rest of the partition is read write. It's just /Users/Me
[19:59] <goodoo> Wow, you get 32GB solid state disks for 299 Euros! Thats the solution.
[19:59] <ompaul> bradley_,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose "ati"  -- MAKE SURE when it gives sizes you choose 1024x768
[20:00] <olimpico> amenado: lsusb detects them fine, but cups doesn't
[20:00] <neeto> Is there a command to rescan all of the connected USB devices?
[20:00] <jrib> LtYellow: what permissions are on the directory?
[20:00] <ompaul> bradley_,  it really is not that hard
[20:00] <djezzer> Hello, good evening
[20:00] <LtYellow> jrib: how do i find out?
[20:00] <tony_> Could I jump in here with a quick question?  I'm running Ubuntu „Feisty“, can anybody tell me where I could find „RealPlayer10GOLD“ as a .deb package? Maybe details on a repository to add? Many thanks
[20:00] <jrib> LtYellow: ls -ld /path/to/the/directory
[20:00] <amenado> olimpico  what steps did you go through to detect the subject printer?
[20:00] <moreati> luigi_: ok, I'm afraid I've never seen a preinstalled dell, so I don't know what the put in each partition. It would be dangerous for me to suggest changes to you at the level of partitioning and reinstalling boot loaders
[20:00] <Ash908> moreati, amenado: thanks.
[20:00] <djezzer> I downloaded and installed Ubuntu frm a NL server. How do I set the interface in Dutch?
[20:01] <luigi_> Is there any way to make split archives, the way you can with RAR files on Evil Empire systems? I heard there are some extremely old formats that can do this, but I'm not sure I want to mess with those.
[20:01] <LtYellow> drwx---rwx 1 501 dialout 11 2008-03-08 15:31 /media/macintosh/Users/aritzkobayashi/Music/
[20:02] <ompaul> djezzer, ask in #ubuntu-nl
[20:02] <mariocesar> Hi, anyone knows how to generate a text file when i send a print job as cups+pdf generate pdf files?
[20:02] <djezzer> @ompaul, ok thanks om!
[20:02] <luigi_> moreati: Ok... well can I access the files that have permissions set to my old account? I can't open many directories from LiveCD because I don't have read permissions.
[20:02] <sadistical> Hello
[20:02] <wxPython> please visit this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361
[20:03] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 18361 in gnome-panel "Odd selection launchers/menu" [Low,Confirmed]
[20:03] <bradley_> ompaul: ok now what
[20:03] <wxPython> please fix this bug
[20:03] <olimpico> amenado: 1)http://localhost:631/admin 2)Find New Printers
[20:03] <LtYellow> jrib: drwx---rwx 1 501 dialout 11 2008-03-08 15:31 /media/macintosh/Users/aritzkobayashi/Music/
[20:03] <jrib> luigi_: you can just use split.  There's something you can pass to tar too iirc
[20:03] <zeno_> if i install windows, will it kill grub?
[20:03] <wxPython> where can i get a gnome-panel developer?
[20:03] <sinbox> windows kills all zeno_
[20:03] <eth01> wxPython: thats not a bug.
[20:03] <moreati> luigi_: I thought the live-cd ran everything as root. if not, run gksudo nautilus and you'll be able to read every file
[20:03] <luigi_> jrilb: please explain
[20:03] <zeno_> D: is it possible to put it back?
[20:04] <eth01> (really, it isnt)
[20:04] <zeno_> dang
[20:04] <jrib> LtYellow: heh, do you see the issue?
[20:04] <dan__> anyone know a good place I can find a CHM reader ? I ask because I have many ebooks that are .chm format and I cant find anything for linux or ubuntu
[20:04] <wxPython> eth01 what you say??
[20:04] <LtYellow> jrib: ...no
[20:04] <jrib> dan__: xchm or gnochm are two in the repositories
[20:04] <bradley_> ompaul: now what
[20:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:04] <wxPython> it IS
[20:04] <zeno_> eth01: i assumed it was at least POSSIBLE to put grub back
[20:04] <jrib> LtYellow: do you understand permissions?
[20:04] <LtYellow> jrib: nope
[20:04] <jrib> LtYellow: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[20:05] <wxPython> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361 IS A NASTY BUG... ANYONE WHO KNOWS C, PLEASE FIX THE BUG
[20:05] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 18361 in gnome-panel "Odd selection launchers/menu" [Low,Confirmed]
[20:05] <luigi_> jrilb: I have these huge, 40GB backup 7Zs on my mycomputer that I need to get somewhere else, and I need to fit them on 1 GB flash drives.
[20:05] <dan__> jrib: Thanks man
[20:05] <jrib> wxPython: don't do that please
[20:05] <czajkowski> ompaul: still looking for alternative penguins, fecking hard! need a holiday to sort it out!
[20:05] <wxPython> sorry
[20:05] <cerberus> hello, i need some advise please, does Ubuntu have download manager that can make multi-connections ? (such as Flashget on windows) ?
[20:05] <jrib> luigi_: so use split
[20:05] <ompaul> bradley_, do this >>   grep 1024 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:05] <ompaul> bradley_, if you do not get a result you have not done what I asked you to do
[20:06] <czajkowski> heh
[20:06] <neeto> cerberus: I use the downthemall plugin for firefox. It's pretty nice... speeds up everything a lot
[20:06] <luigi_> cerberus, I think freeloader does that
[20:06] <ompaul> czajkowski, this is #ubuntu not -offtopic ;-)
[20:06] <Montego_> Just have to give in to Windows. Three months of unresolved problems. And no realistic fixes. Not to lack of my trying to find some way of resolving browser crashes. Which leads me to the conclusion that Ubuntu isn't really ready for the majority of the public that has no knowledge of computer programming. Which you still must have to use with the Linux Os. Maybe in another 10 years it will be ready for those of us without
[20:06] <Montego_> command line knowledge.
[20:07] <macdunbar> does any one know what svn is?
[20:07] <tony_>  I'm running Ubuntu „Feisty“, can anybody tell me where I could find „RealPlayer10GOLD“ as a .deb package? Maybe details on a repository to add? Many thanks
[20:07] <dan__> I have to say that this collective mind of Ubuntu folks is awesome
[20:07] <ompaul> macdunbar, subversion
[20:07] <ompaul> macdunbar, version control
[20:07] <iamleo> hello
[20:07] <moreati> permissions must be enforced by the running system, if you run a program such as nautilus (the equiv of Windows explorer) as root (the administrator) then permissions are bypassed. I thought this was the default on the live cd. If not then press alt+f2, and type 'gksudo nautilus' into the run dialog and press enter, this will opena file manager that runs as root.
[20:07] <wxPython> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361 IS A NASTY BUG... ANYONE WHO KNOWS C, PLEASE FIX THE BUG
[20:07] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 18361 in gnome-panel "Odd selection launchers/menu" [Low,Confirmed]
[20:08] <wxPython> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361 IS A NASTY BUG... ANYONE WHO KNOWS C, PLEASE FIX THE BUG
[20:08] <moreati> luigi ^^
[20:08] <Chousuke> wxPython: stop spamming
[20:08] <ompaul> bradley_, did it give you a reply?
[20:08] <eth01> !ops > wxPython
[20:08] <bradley_> nothing happened, it just went to the next line
[20:08] <DeadlyNightshade> hey guys, uhm I have a really strange problem with my sudo command
[20:08] <luigi_> jrib, OK, and what about circumventing file permissions on these files? I need to be able to access the insides of a bunch of directories.
[20:08] <LjL> !repeat | wxPython
[20:08] <ubotwo> wxPython: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:08] <amenado> olimpico  what about if you click on add printer?
[20:08] <LjL> !caps | wxPython
[20:08] <ubotwo> wxPython: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:08] <neeto> Is there a way that I can refesh /dev and have it try to find new devices?
[20:08] <Ashfire908> eth01, you mean ops |
[20:08] <eth01> LjL, :)
[20:09] <olimpico> amenado: I tried that, but the USB printers are not recognized
[20:09] <eth01> Ashfire, typo :)
[20:09] <LjL> wxPython: and if the bug has been reported, it means it's known. so there is no need to call for arms in here. this is a support channel.
[20:09] <ompaul> Ashfire908, he knew we were looking ...
[20:09] <palomer__> ubuntu fails to read my dvd
[20:09] <macdunbar> ompaul: i get an error when trying to install subversion can you help?
[20:09] <jrib> luigi_: I don't understand your question?  Can you rephrase it?
[20:09] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[20:09] <ompaul> !dvd | palomer__
[20:09] <ubotwo> palomer__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:09] <moreati> palomer__: what's on the dvd and is there and error?
[20:09] <amenado> olimpico after even going through the steps?
[20:09] <wxPython> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/18361 IS A NASTY BUG... ANYONE WHO KNOWS C, PLEASE FIX THE BUG
[20:09] <bradley_> ompaul: just went to the next line
[20:09] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 18361 in gnome-panel "Odd selection launchers/menu" [Low,Confirmed]
[20:10] <cerberus> neeto: can you write me the right name of the package ? (firefox download manager plug...)
[20:10] <DeadlyNightshade> I have changed my root password as a friend installed it and set the password to 'password' [doesnt work now], however when using sudo it doesnt accept the old password, however it doesnt accept the new password in its place when it states that it has
[20:10] <palomer__> the error is "the xine engine failed to start"
[20:10] <luigi_> jrib: I'm here in LiveCD and need to get to the insides of a bunch of directories so I can manually back them up. Unfortunately, these directories are off limits because I don't have read permissions on them. Y'know, the file permissions we've had since the dawn of UN*X.
[20:10] <Chousuke> DeadlyNightshade: sudo doesn't ask for the root password
[20:10] <palomer__> no demuxer found
[20:11] <moreati> permissions must be enforced by the running system, if you run a program such as nautilus (the equiv of Windows explorer) as root (the administrator) then permissions are bypassed. I thought this was the default on the live cd. If not then press alt+f2, and type 'gksudo nautilus' into the run dialog and press enter, this will opena file manager that runs as root.
[20:11] <DeadlyNightshade> Chousuke, it also doesnt accept the USER password
[20:11] <moreati> luigi> ^^
[20:11] <Chousuke> DeadlyNightshade: well that's not so nice
[20:11] <neeto> cerberus: Are you talking about a package from the repos? You can install the plugin from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/201
[20:11] <jrib> luigi_: gksudo nautilus  if you want a gui.  Otherwise drop to a root shell with 'sudo -i' if you want that
[20:11] <Chousuke> DeadlyNightshade: are you sure you're in sudoers?
[20:11] <Chousuke> DeadlyNightshade: eg. the admin group
[20:11] <Chousuke> ie.*
[20:11] <Chousuke> :P
[20:11] <bradley_> ompaul: u there man???
[20:12] <olimpico> amenado: Yes, after going through the step, and before I could find the printers automatically
[20:12] <ompaul> bradley_, waiting on your result from last line
[20:12] <palomer__> I tried doing what obuto told me to do
[20:12] <ompaul> bradley_, did it give you a reply?
[20:12] <palomer__> installed all the codecs
[20:12] <palomer__> etc...
[20:12] <Allenwr> i need some help, when I changed my resolution, my title bar disappeared, how do i get it back?
[20:12] <bradley_> ompaul: no, it just went to the next line
[20:12] <macdunbar> can anyone help me install subversion?
[20:12] <moreati> DeadlyNightshade: also note that root doesn't have a password by default on ubuntu, what you type into sudo is the password for your account
[20:12] <ompaul> !restricted | palomer__ (have a look here)
[20:12] <DeadlyNightshade> shit I probably accidentally pulled myself out that group, is there anyway to undo such immense stupidity, for example getting into root completely and then undoing the f up
[20:12] <ubotwo> palomer__ (have a look here): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:12] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: any joy ?
[20:12] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: ?
[20:13] <moreati> macdunbar: client or server?
[20:13] <syntaxerror55> IndyGunFreak: any progress? no.
[20:13] <IndyGunFreak> syntaxerror55: getting to boot the iso from USB?
[20:13] <amenado> olimpico i really dont know then why it does not detect it
[20:13] <IndyGunFreak> that sucks.
[20:13] <askand> Can someone say a good backupmanager (the best?) for ubuntu? :)
[20:13] <ompaul> bradley_, well the thing is I can't make you click the right button on the right screen and as you notice there are a lot of them you can if you wish start a live CD and join the channel with it
[20:13] <LjL> !backup | askand
[20:13] <ubotwo> askand: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[20:13] <olimpico> amenado: Me neither
[20:13] <askand> LjL: thanks
[20:13] <olimpico> amenado: It's crazy!!!!!!!!
[20:14] <ompaul> LjL, is there a way to force default xserver-xorg config?
[20:14] <Allenwr> !titlebar
[20:14] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[20:14] <macdunbar> moreati: client i guess i'm following instructions on patching my kernel and there's a step that requires me to use a "sudo svn co" command
[20:14] <bradley_> ompaul: i did what u said, i selected ati, then after a few screen when it came to the rez, i put in the one u said
[20:14] <drc> Allenwr:  is there a "auto adjust" button on your monitor?
[20:14] <LjL> ompaul, with "bulletproof X", probably just deleting the file, but i don't really know
[20:14] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install Gyachi 32 bit version on my 64 bit yahoo. It has both lib32 and 64lib . It needs this one lib ,but I have no idea how to make sure I get the 32 bit lib. How do I get 32 bit libs ?
[20:15] <moreati> macdunbar: sudo apt-get install subversion
[20:15] <ompaul> bradley_, then it should be in the file as a result -- the  grep 1024 /etc/X11/xorg.conf  < command proves if you got it right
[20:15] <ompaul> bradley_, you didn't if you ain't got it ...
[20:15] <KalEl> how can i find out which version of ubuntu is it that operates my system?
[20:16] <macdunbar> moreati: that gives me the "Package subversion is not available, but is referred to by another package." error
[20:16] <Flare183> KalEl: uname -a
[20:16] <Itaku> wheres the sudoers file?
[20:16] <ompaul> KalEl, lsb_release -a
[20:16] <dustii> hey, I run into a strange problem, installed gtk2 and a some theme engines, then performed a reboot whereafter the login screen fails to load
[20:16] <moreati> system -> about ubuntu, if you prefer the gui
[20:16] <dustii> or well, it loads, then shuts down and reloads over and over again
[20:16] <bradley_> ompaul: sigh, i hit everything u told me too.... im in the live cd now
[20:16] <Flare183> ompaul: yeap wrong sorry
[20:16] <dustii> anyone has any ideas how to fix this
[20:16] <KalEl> thanks!
[20:16] <ompaul> Itaku, you can't edit that with just any editot
[20:16] <dustii> ?
[20:16] <Itaku> i just need to know where it is
[20:16] <jrib> Itaku: /etc/sudoers but you really should not need to know that.  Use visudo if you need to edit it.
[20:16] <ompaul> Flare183, np
[20:16] <rio> hi, on my notebook using ubuntu when i old keys the characters dont repeat, whats wront?
[20:16] <evax> hello
[20:16] <ompaul> Itaku, in /etc
[20:16] <moreati> macdunbar: try 'sudo apt-get update' first
[20:17] <ompaul> bradley_, do you have working X ?
[20:17] <danand> palomer__ - have you installed ffmpeg and libxine1-ffmpeg - that may solve your problem
[20:17] <evax> How I do for lunch crossover? ( i'm french sorry for my bad english
[20:17] <moreati> rio look at system -> preferences -> keyboard
[20:17] <ompaul> !fr | evax
[20:17] <Flare183> !fr | evax
[20:17] <ubotwo> evax: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:17] <Flare183> hehe
[20:17] <macdunbar> moreati: same thing
[20:17] <evax> merci
[20:17] <bradley_> ompaul: what do u mean, im in the live cd, it has me at the dsktop
[20:17] <rio> moreati: its set to repeat there
[20:18] <moreati> macdunbar: that is fairly not goof
[20:18] <ompaul> bradley_, that is working X
[20:18] <bradley_> ompaul: yes than
[20:18] <moreati> rio then I dont know, sorry
[20:18] <rio> :/
[20:18] <KalEl> today my friend came and installed the hardy heron on my system, which i found out is a pre-release version... although i'm not facing any problems, i hope that it is fine? or should i somehow uninstall it?
[20:18] <LordElph> I did an apt-get remove on postgresql-8.1, then deleted the config and init.d startup files for it in /etc/... now when I try to reinstall postgresql-8.1, it won't recreate those files. Anyone know how I can force it to do that?
[20:18] <DeadlyNightshade> rio, go to system - preferences - accessability -  keyboard and then check 'repeat keys' is enabled
[20:18] <dustii> hey, I run into a strange problem, installed gtk2 and a some theme engines, then performed a reboot whereafter the login screen fails to load. it loads then crashes and does it over again. any ideas how to fix this?
[20:18] <ompaul> bradley_, now my next question is aimed at the least amount of difficulty / work - how long did you have your ubuntu installed and do you have anything of value on it?
[20:19] <moreati> KalEl: if it works, don't try to fix it :)
[20:19] <jrib> KalEl: it's intended to only be used by developers and testers.  If you expect your computer to work, don't use it
[20:19] <bruenig> dustii: can you startx from the virtual consoles?
[20:19] <macdunbar> moreati: i'm using the amd64 version do you think that has to do with it?
[20:19] <Flare183> bruenig: yes
[20:19] <rio> DeadlyNightshade: it is enabled
[20:19] <moreati> macdunbar: it shouldn't do
[20:19] <bradley_> ompaul: 2 days, nothing of vaule... but i do on windows
[20:19] <box_> Im currently running ubuntu with gnome, if i install KDE is there a way i can switch between the two maybe with boot manager or something ?
[20:19] <bruenig> Flare183 = dustii ?
[20:20] <DeadlyNightshade> rio in which case no idea
[20:20] <ompaul> bradley_, well a reinstall over the ubuntu install would be fastest - cos the other thing would be a long hard slog
[20:20] <Flare183> bruenig: sorry I broke in
[20:20] <jrib> box_: install the kubuntu-desktop package.  Then you can choose at the login screen
[20:20] <moreati> macdunbar: could you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please
[20:20] <KalEl> ok thanks... computer is working so far - but i'm scared as some people advise me not to use it. not sure also if there is any easy way to remove it. guess i'm stuck with it...
[20:20] <dustii> bruenig: can't start X
[20:20] <ompaul> KalEl, it most likely is okay - play with it and enjoy it
[20:20] <jrib> KalEl: you would just reinstall 7.10, the latest stable version
[20:20] <KalEl> hopefully it will auto update to the next version?
[20:21] <bruenig> Flare183: oh I see now, no I wasn't asking whether it was possible, I was asking him if he could on his box, sorry for the confusion
[20:21] <moreati> KalEl: don't do updates, until the final release. You should be ok.
[20:21] <KalEl> ok thanks a lot!
[20:21] <ompaul> KalEl, you have to click on the updates and then they should work
[20:21] <bruenig> dustii: what happens when you do "startx" from the virtual console?
[20:21] <Flare183> bruenig: no problem
[20:21] <ompaul> KalEl, but don't until april
[20:21] <jrib> moreati: I have to disagree.  That means he wouldn't get security updates either
[20:21] <KalEl> thanks!
[20:22] <Flare183> ompaul: this April right?
[20:22] <ubuntun00b14> can someone help me install java 6?
[20:22] <moreati> jrib: he sounded nervous, and there may be a reason his friend used hardy.
[20:22] <bruenig> !info sun-java6-jre
[20:22] <ompaul> KalEl, you know you could down load 7.10 and install it
[20:22] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: did you install the package I asked you to install?
[20:22] <teip> i'm probably asking in the wrong channel but does anyone know which channel to ask about the differences in cpu processors?
[20:22] <macdunbar> moreati: here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59055/
[20:22] <KalEl> ok
[20:22] <ompaul> Flare183, yes
[20:22] <Flare183> ompaul: ok just making sure
[20:22] <ompaul> KalEl, bottom line talk with your buddy
[20:23] <moreati> macdunbar: one sec
[20:23] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: i dont think i saw it, can you give me it again?
[20:23] <jrib> teip: #hardware
[20:23] <ubotwo> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 6179 kB, installed size 14168 kB (Only available for None)
[20:23] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: install the ia32-sun-java6-bin package
[20:23] <ompaul> teip, ask in ##hardware
[20:23] <KalEl> yeah i'm going to straighten this out with him! he's gonna pay...
[20:23] <KalEl> i guess one good treat will do
[20:23] <ompaul> KalEl, there may be a valid reason for hardy but enjoy it anyway
[20:23] <teip> jrib & ompaul: thanks
[20:24] <KalEl> :)
[20:24] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: i downloaded it, but don't even know where to start to install it
[20:25] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: you haven't discovered APT and its friends Add/Remove and Synaptic Package Manager?
[20:25] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: i know of them, but dont know how to just find what im looking for and install them
[20:25] <antoine_> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:25] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: type the packagename I said into the search box in synaptic
[20:25] <Flare183> hehe
[20:26] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: if i have the AMD 64, should i still get the 32 bit version?
[20:26] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: yes, because frostwire seems to crash here unless I use that version
[20:26] <dataangel> heh
[20:26] <dataangel> cool
[20:26] <dustii> bruenig: well, X loads then crashes and reloads over and over again
[20:27] <dataangel> nice add in to the xbunutu distrubtion, i did not install it
[20:27] <dataangel> anyways......
[20:27] <phoenix5002> is there anyway to change rendering options in linux such as texture quality and mipmapping ect...??
[20:27] <rsk> yea phoenix5002 with some driver
[20:27] <rsk> s
[20:27] <bruenig> Someone should change the ubotu alias which searches the repos, displaying architecture as (Only available for $architecture) Looks silly when the architecture is "None"
[20:27] <dataangel> hmmm
[20:27] <rsk> phoenix5002: nvidia-settings for nvidia and ati panel for ati
[20:27] <jrib> bruenig: best to file a bug
[20:27] <phoenix5002> rsk: I have ati but I don't have an ati panel
[20:28] <dataangel> how do i get pigdin to use my browser when i click on a lick, i want to look at the FAQ
[20:28] <dataangel> i have never used it before
[20:28] <dataangel> i usually use xchat
[20:28] <dustii> could gtk2 cause X to crash like this?
[20:28] <ompaul> bradley_, what was your decision?
[20:28] <IndyGunFreak> dataangel: it should o it automatically i think... i dont' think i've ever had to "set" pidgin to do that
[20:28] <rsk> phoenix5002: have you installed ati's driver?
[20:28] <rio> i think it uses the browser which is set to be default, dataangel
[20:28] <dustii> as I installed it + some theme engines before boot
[20:28] <phoenix5002> yes
[20:29] <oddalot> hello, my monitor dims to black after about 10 minutes of no activity, anyone know how to turn this off?
[20:29] <dataangel> it sets something about "manual" and browser or something
[20:29] <IndyGunFreak> oddalot: when you move the mouse, does it light back up?
[20:29] <syntaxerror55> oddalot: Does it turn on a screensaver?
[20:29] <drc> bruenig:  try http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <dataangel> cool found it
[20:29] <oddalot> no, i have to press a button
[20:29] <phoenix5002> rsk: I installed the ati mobility driver
[20:29] <renfrew> oddalot goto System/Preferences/Screen Saver.. you can adjust it there...
[20:30] <oddalot> and no screen saver comes on
[20:30] <syntaxerror55> I've always liked the Ubuntu screensavers, personally
[20:30] <IndyGunFreak> oddalot: i'm pretty sure its a power savign feature, you need to find how to disable suspend
[20:30] <oddalot> ok, i think that fixed it
[20:30] <oddalot> thanks
[20:30] <oddalot> screensaver..
[20:30] <silent_> I'm getting 4.1 out of xmms with stereo music, but rhythmbox is only playing on 2 channels... how do I fix this?
[20:30] <zulerdongle> Hello. I have a problem. Everytime i put switch user and log back in, its as if my previous session had been closed because all of my programs are not opened anymore. What could be causing this? Thanks.
[20:31] <phoenix5002> is there anyway to change rendering options from the command line then?
[20:31] <dustii> ok, so assuming its gtk2 and X "fighting", how should I fix it? when my loginscreen fails to load
[20:32] <dustii> is there any command to disable one of them?
[20:32] <dustii> if this is the case
[20:33] <slipttees> rene@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[20:33] <slipttees> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[20:33] <slipttees> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[20:33] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: I installed it, but this is the output I get when attempting to start Frostwire
[20:34] <ubuntun00b14> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59057/
[20:34] <hexa> slipttees: graphics adapter? driver installed? xorg.conf configured?
[20:34] <Ethernal_Storm> err, how do i unfreeze my screen it randomly frozen i cant watchstuff move but no key combos nor click combos working...just watching it upgrade..
[20:34] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: run: sudo update-java-alternatives -s ia32-java-6-sun
[20:34] <renfrew> just curious dustii, have you tried debugging it by starting x manually? can you startx from a recovery console?
[20:34] <slipttees> hexa: sis 661FX xorg-driver-sis - Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[20:34] <slipttees> 	Driver		"sis"
[20:34] <slipttees> 	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[20:35] <bradley_> ompaul: to reinstall it... im doing that now, but first i used time, to grow my windows partition, and reformat the old ubuntu one
[20:35] <hexa> slipttees: you sure ur driver has 3d acceleration?
[20:35] <ubuntun00b14> jrib: thanks all systems go... i really appreciate your patience and help
[20:36] <jrib> ubuntun00b14: no problem
[20:36] <slipttees> hexa: yes
[20:36] <hexa> slipttees: see dmesg, perhaps the kernel module was not built
[20:37] <hexa> if so, try m-a
[20:37] <ompaul> bradley_, what I would suggest is that you don't modify an install with all the funky graphics stuff straight off - get familiar with it in "ordinary mode"
[20:37] <fabio> (i've already dismissed kde 4)
[20:37] <neeto> Is there a way that I can rebuild /dev? When I plug anything external in, I can't mount it because it doesn't seem to show up in /dev. I know restarting would fix this problem... but I don't really want to.
[20:37] <ompaul> bradley_, there is only so much that glitter adds you still want to do stuff like browse the web etc
[20:37] <allass> how do I allow a user other than root to bind to port 53?
[20:38] <hexa> neeto: if it does not show up it means that there is no kernel module handling it
[20:38] <fabio> over 1024 you are llowed
[20:38] <moreati> allass: you can't, it's kind of a built in restriction
[20:38] <Cattivik21> hi to all! I have a probem with my wireless pci card using madwifi...i configure wireless with network manager but i still cannot connect...
[20:38] <bradley_> ompaul: the defeats the purpose of me getting ubuntu then, ill try to get used to it... i guess i wait until they have ATI drivers that work with it.... i know u can do some stuff in the terminal cause somebody told me how to do it, but i had to reinstall windows which did something to ubuntu which i had to reinstall...
[20:38] <slipttees> hexa: i'm using last kernel
[20:39] <joanki> test
[20:39] <neeto> hexa, what's the module name for whatever handles usb?
[20:39] <hexa> slipttees: whci is?
[20:39] <amews_aj> Why ubuntu over vista ?
[20:39] <slipttees> Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-11-generic
[20:39] <danand> neeto - try running sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart or reload
[20:39] <neeto> danand, thanks mate
[20:39] <moreati> amews_aj: because we prefer it?
[20:39] <fabio> ubuntu is faster than vista
[20:39] <hexa> neeto: usbcore and a few others
[20:39] <ompaul> bradley_, ahh no what you need to do is bookmark the reference I am about to give you
[20:39] <neeto> hexa, I'll try what danand gave me first...
[20:39] <Greek-Boy> I have a HP dv6662se laptop with a 64-bit ready CPU. Should I install the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[20:39] <IndyGunFreak> fabio: an abacus is faster than vista
[20:39] <ompaul> bradley_, actually print out the url
[20:39] <ompaul> !grub | bradley_
[20:40] <ubotwo> bradley_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:40] <bullgard4>  What is the function of every file of 8 files in ~/.cache//tracker/?
[20:40] <amews_aj> moreati: Well, of course someone preferes something, but there is a reason. Why do u use ubuntu instead of vista. What do you like about it ?
[20:40] <slipttees> hexa: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter  possible 2d hardware aceleration ?
[20:40] <fabio> look on youtube how ubuntu does compare to vista...
[20:40] <IndyGunFreak> amews_aj: if it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand..Google, you'll find your answers
[20:40] <ompaul> bradley_, and complain to ATI that you can't make it work easy - the more mails they get the more customers they become aware of using GNU/Linux
[20:41] <bradley_> ompaul: i know that stuff now, but at the time i thought windows had screwed it up.... and after i did that i fogot how to get my ATI drivers
[20:41] <bradley_> ompaul: i will
[20:41] <abstrak> Any PCTV 310i user here ?
[20:41] <bradley_> ompaul: right now...
[20:41] <hexa> slipttees: 2D for sure, but I never met an SiS Adapter which supported 3D Acc.
[20:41] <gregbrady> bradley_: Which ATI card?
[20:41] <zulerdongledf> Hello. I have a problem. Everytime i put switch user and log back in, its as if my previous session had been closed because all of my programs are not opened anymore. What could be causing this? Thanks.
[20:41] <hexa> gregbrady: mobility radeon x1400
[20:41] <moreati> amews_aj: it's more free, it's more customisable, it get in my way less, _everything_ is included, it's cheaper, it's more fun and it doesn't try to place artificial restrictions on me. How's that?
[20:41] <phoenix5002> is there anyway to change 3d settings from the command line such as texture quality and mipmapping?  I have an ati card
[20:41] <bradley_> gregbrady: the Mobilty Radoen X1400
[20:42] <fabio> a great ATI
[20:42] <bigjon32> hello, i'm having some trouble with my bootup on my ubuntu box, i disabled quiet splash and i can see where it's hanging but google hasn't helped
[20:42] <slipttees> hexa, hmm :-/
[20:42] <gregbrady> bradley_: I'm usint the Radeon Xpress 200M with no issues
[20:42] <amews_aj> IndyGunFreak and moreati: Beside faster, open source and free. I only see bad things. Non-compatibility with quite a lot of hardware and especially the LACK of using WINDOWS SOFTWARE. You need to find completely new programs, and you like the ones for windows.
[20:42] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: when you turn on your comp does it go to a black screen and take a really long time to boot?
[20:43] <bigjon32> yeah
[20:43] <slipttees> hexa: i never met an SiS 2D :-(
[20:43] <IndyGunFreak> amews_aj: i cn't be any more clear, and this is off topic for the channel, google holds the answers to what you're looking for, but if it has to be explained to you, then its probably pointless
[20:43] <bradley_> gregbrady: i know, but its the compiz effects that dont work
[20:43] <ut2004player> hello
[20:43] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: hang on, I'll get you a link, this is a common problem
[20:43] <gregbrady> bradley_ mine does....did you install xgl?
[20:43] <LjL> !ot | amews_aj
[20:43] <ubotwo> amews_aj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:43] <moreati> amews_aj: I really hope you're not trolling here, it's compatible with the hardware I chose, which admittedly took some care. I prefer the Ubuntu apps to the Windows ones, with one or two exceptions.
[20:44] <IndyGunFreak> moreati: he is.
[20:44] <bradley_> gregbrady: what is that?
[20:44] <hexa> slipttees: nvm, g2g
[20:44] <hexa> bb
[20:44] <neeto> danand: running sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart fails. is there a way I can make the output more verbose?
[20:44] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/22297 was the closest thing that i found to my problem
[20:44] <gregbrady> bradley_ let me find the link for you
[20:44] <slipttees> uh ?
[20:44] <Mongoose> can someone help me get my laptop's webcam working please? /dev/video0 is missing.
[20:44] <slipttees> hexa ?
[20:44] <IndyGunFreak> Mongoose: webcam support is very very hit/miss w/ ubuntu.
[20:44] <ut2004player> i am using ubuntu by cd boot when connected to lan it says connected but firefox does not work? can anyone tell me how to get internet on ubuntu? thanks
[20:44] <Mongoose> its supposed to work with my laptop model.
[20:44] <Mongoose> and it was working perfectly last night
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> but it says you're connected to your lan?
[20:45] <Mongoose> it decided to not work anymore today, though
[20:45] <ut2004player> yes
[20:45] <danand> neeto - don't think so. What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> thats weird, first thought would be a firewall setting.
[20:45] <amews_aj> moreati: I have a lot of hardware that is dependant on windows software. It does not run on linux. And a lot of the programs I prefere are running .NET (not on linux)
[20:45] <moreati> ut2004player: does your lan have a proxy or do you know what a proxy is?
[20:45] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ok then did you edit the resolution in the usplash.conf file?
[20:45] <ut2004player> i am sure its not using a proxy
[20:45] <neeto> danand: I'm just trying to mount my ipod... I think I'll just restart. Seems to work after that
[20:45] <moreati> amews_aj: then good for you, quit trolling here
[20:46] <ut2004player> its connected directly to cable modem
[20:46] <gregbrady> dan__ do you have that site address that I sent to you earlier on for the ATI card?
[20:46] <neeto> man, lots of trolls today
[20:46] <slipttees> hexa: how can enable acceleration 2d on sis 661 fx adapter?
[20:46] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: well that's the thing, i can't get into the os at all.. its been hanging at the same place for ~5 min+ now
[20:46] <ut2004player> using a hp laptop all other ubuntu functions seem to work flawlessly....
[20:46] <amews_aj> moreati: I hope you don't mistunderstand me. I am not trying to say windows is better. I say why I might prefere windows. And search for reasons why linux would be better.
[20:46] <silent_> amews_aj: use what you need.. if you need windows use it and stop pretending to be a butthurt fanboy
[20:46] <bradley_> gregbrady: ok
[20:47] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: then turn ur comp on and when it does grub loading press escape
[20:47] <ompaul> !offtopic | amews_aj
[20:47] <ubotwo> amews_aj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:47] <gregbrady> bradley_: this should work....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:47] <neeto> amews_aj: linux gives you control and command over your computer, windows does not for the most part. Linux is free. Windows is not. Those are some of the most obvious reasons.
[20:47] <ut2004player> lol aj have you even used ubuntu ? -___-
[20:47] <moreati> amews_aj: the answer will be different for each person, if you're happy with windows then carry on using it. I'm happy with ubuntu, now please get on topic or leave
[20:47] <bigjon32> phonenix5002: oh wow yeah i did, sorry i misunderstood that
[20:47] <bradley_> gregbrady: i dont know how to do some of that stuff
[20:47] <gregbrady> bradley_: please let me know if it works for you
[20:48] <chipsa964> which program should i use to burn .iso images?
[20:48] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: you did what?
[20:48] <silent_> chipsa964: right click the iso
[20:48] <ompaul> bradley_,  that is why I said take a few days to get used to the box
[20:48] <gregbrady> bradley_: pretty straight forward....just follow exactly what it says.
[20:48] <moreati> chipsa964: on windows or Ubuntu?
[20:48] <danand> neeto - you may want to look into any log info you get when you plug that device in. see if you get any errors. also compare the output of lsmod before and after reboot to see if there is another module loaded that allows your ipod to be seen by the system. failing that you may want to look at creating a udev rule for the device
[20:48] <chipsa964> ubuntu
[20:48] <bigjon32> phonenix5002: hit escape to go into the editor - let me restart this so we're on the same page
[20:48] <ut2004player> chipsa, any burning iso software will do...
[20:49] <drc> chipsa964:  KDE or Gnome?
[20:49] <silent_> chipsa964: right click the iso -> burn to disc... or get K3B or gnomebaker or something
[20:49] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ok, then just go into recovery mode and login to get to the command line
[20:49] <chipsa964> ah ok
[20:49] <gregbrady> bradley_:  I can help you further, but I have to go out for an hour or so.
[20:49] <neeto> danand: well it's not only my ipod, any device I plug in doesn't work... but I will check the logs. thanks.
[20:49] <moreati> ut2004player: please paste the output of ifconfig, route and lsmod to pastebin
[20:49] <chipsa964> thanks silent_
[20:49] <gregbrady> bradley_  I just have to take some pictures of the huge amount of snow that we got over the weekend!
[20:50] <silent_> chipsa964: np
[20:50] <bradley_> gregbrady: in atl???
[20:50] <danand> neeto - are you running the standard kernel of have you compiled your own?
[20:50] <ut2004player> moreati: not sure how to do so? (i am new at linux)
[20:50] <neeto> danand: compiled my own  :(
[20:50] <gregbrady> bradley_ no, Waterloo, Ontario
[20:50] <bradley_> gregbrady: we got some snow here, but in an hour ill have ubuntu back up and running on my laptop
[20:50] <moreati> ut2004player: open a shell (command prompt) from Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal, ok?
[20:50] <ut2004player> also can internet work on ubuntu while using live cd?
[20:50] <bradley_> gregbrady: when u come back look for me here, and/or join the room #atidriver
[20:50] <ompaul> bradley_, what version are you installing?
[20:51] <gregbrady> bradley_ will do
[20:51] <silent_> ut2004player: yes
[20:51] <moreati> ut2004player: yes it can work form the live cd
[20:51] <Greek-Boy> I have a HP dv6662se laptop with a 64-bit ready CPU. Should I install the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?
[20:51] <bradley_> ompaul: gutsy
[20:52] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: booting into recovery mode is hanging aswell, is this normal?
[20:52] <bradley_> ompaul: but i have to wait for it to "grow" my partition that windows is on from some unallocated space... and then wait for it to delete the old ubuntu partitons so the installer wont mess up windows
[20:52] <ompaul> bradley_, goo
[20:52] <silent_> Greek-Boy: if you're new to ubuntu I'd advise getting the 32 bit version, if you're just using it for everyday stuff... if you're running larger applications/servers then 64 bit would be preferable
[20:52] <IndyGunFreak> ut2004player: do you use wireless?
[20:52] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: check ur PM
[20:52] <moreati> when you have the terminal open, type 'ifconfig <enter>', then 'route <enter>', then 'lsmod <enter>'. OK?
[20:52] <zulerdongledf> Hello. I have a problem. Everytime i put switch user and log back in, its as if my previous session had been closed because all of my programs are not opened anymore. What could be causing this? Thanks.
[20:52] <moreati> ut2004player: ^^
[20:52] <danand> neeto - in that case i would suggest your missing some kernel options for usb support. if you still have the generic kernel on your system try using your usb devices etc with that - check the output of lsmod to see what your using and compare that to the modules your using with your home rolled. then redo your custom kernel with those modules included :)
[20:52] <ut2004player> using lan then gonna try wireless -_-
[20:52] <bradley_> ompaul: goo???
[20:52] <silent_> Greek-Boy: using 32 bit isn't really a noticable change in performance for everyday tasks and it makes dealing with plugins easier
[20:53] <IndyGunFreak> ut2004player: ok, 90% of the time, your Lan shoudl work fine from the live CD
[20:53] <neeto> danand: alright will do. Thanks for your help
[20:53] <gnychis> is there a way to find the last so many IP addresses or hosts that logged in to your machine via ssh?
[20:53] <x0rg62> hello !
[20:53] <danand> neeto - save that last .... just check the config files against each other in /boot :)
[20:53] <danand> neeto - np :)
[20:53] <ut2004player> wait, so i open "terminal" then what do i type moreati?
[20:53] <silent_> gnychis: I'd look in the ssh documentation for logging
[20:53] <m3lawren> gnychis: /var/log/auth.log will have that, though it may be a bit messy to look through (it contains info about the rest of the logins on your machine too, try searching for 'sshd')
[20:54] <moreati> ut2004player: when you have the terminal open, type 'ifconfig <enter>', then 'route <enter>', then 'lsmod <enter>'. OK?
[20:54] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: check ur pm
[20:54] <ompaul> bradley_, good
[20:54] <ut2004player> ah i see thanks
[20:54] <bradley_> ompaul: oh lol
[20:54] <bigjon32> phoneix5002: im trying to figure out how to on colloquy on os x, never used it before
[20:54] <moreati> ut2004player: everything in the quotes, but not the quotes themselves
[20:54] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ok never mind then
[20:54] <danand> gnychis - you might find that info in the /var/log/auth.log file
[20:54] <gnychis> m3lawren: thanks!
[20:55] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: press escape at grub again but this time instead of selecting recovery mode press "c"
[20:55] <moreati> ut2004player: let me know when you've done that
[20:55] <juank_prada> probably this is not the palce to ask, but im having some trouble tryin to create an Innodb table in Ubuntu's mysql installation
[20:56] <moreati> juank_prada: it isn't the best place, try #mysql
[20:56] <Tooommi> Resizing my ubuntu partition in windows isn't a good idea is it?
[20:56] <moreati> Tooommi: no, very bad
[20:56] <Tooommi> k
[20:56] <bigjon32> phonenix5002: alright, there
[20:56] <dataangel> ok
[20:56] <dataangel> cool
[20:56] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: u logged in?
[20:56] <moreati> unless you're using partition magic, or something that knows about linux filesystems
[20:56] <Tooommi> Then I better shrink my ntfs partition in windows
[20:56] <dataangel> right, i have lots of issues to reslove but the biggest one concerns authentication
[20:56] <bigjon32> phoneix5002: no, i hit c on the grub
[20:57] <phoenix5002> then what happened?
[20:57] <Tooommi> moreati: that's what I wanted to use :)
[20:57] <dataangel> why are my packages never authentiacted
[20:57] <dataangel> ????
[20:57] <moreati> Tooommi: try gparted on ubuntu, it's good enough for me. do backups first of course
[20:57] <pianoboy3333> will this work with ubuntu and the philips camera driver? http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SPC900NC-Camera-Sensor-Interface/dp/B000EIIGYU
[20:57] <danand> dataangel - try running sudo apt-get update to resolve that. a
[20:58] <Tooommi> moreati: does it support ntfs?
[20:58] <moreati> Tooommi: yes
[20:58] <m3lawren> So I just picked up a new Dell laptop and threw Ubuntu on it, but it's not picking up the wireless card on its own. Anyone know how to figure out which drivers I'll need to install?
[20:58] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ok ur at least at a command line right?
[20:58] <Tooommi> okay, thanks. I'm gonna give it a try
[20:58] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: can you enter commands like 'cd'?
[20:58] <bigjon32> phoneix5002: yeah, grub>
[20:58] <symptom> Hello I am running gutsy and Im trying to set up dual monitors (span) with one Samsung 753df and one 763mb and the secondary screen is not getting the resolution properly.  I keep haveing to move the mouse to the edge of the screen to see the rest of it.  Any help"?
[20:58] <moreati> m3lawren: please post the output of lspci to the pastebin
[20:59] <chipsa964> is there an itunes-like application where i can get music onto my ipod? and does win support itunes?
[20:59] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: no, i tried cd .. and it returns error 27: unrecognized command
[20:59] <danand> m3lawren - type lspci and lshw in a terminal - look through the output to try and find the make and model of your wireless card
[20:59] <Tooommi> moreati: Then I would have to unmount my drives first. Right?
[21:00] <symptom> using nvidia driver for geforce fx 5200
[21:00] <moreati> Tooommi: do it from the ubuntu live cd
[21:00] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: try typing login
[21:00] <bigjon32> phoneix5002: same thing
[21:00] <m3lawren> moreati: danand: Thanks, looks like I'm running with a Broadcom BCM4310 chip.
[21:00] <ut2004player> also i need to install ubuntu on my laptop which already has windows....is there a way to install dual boot OS?
[21:00] <Tooommi> moreati: I don't have one at the moment :) Gonna download it now. Thanks again
[21:00] <macdunbar> can some one help me? i'm trying to compile a kernel
[21:00] <zack> hello there
[21:01] <zack> what kernel is it?
[21:01] <zack> which version?
[21:01] <moreati> ut2004player: if you install ubuntu second, it will setup dual boot for you
[21:01] <macdunbar> 2.6.22 i'm trying to apply patches for my macbook
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> !dualboot | ut2004player
[21:01] <ubotwo> ut2004player: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[21:01] <ut2004player> ah ok thanks alot moreati you have been great help :)
[21:01] <moreati> ut2004player: were you able to run those commands at the terminal?
[21:02] <ut2004player> not yet i am gonna do them when i install ubuntu....
[21:02] <Rawk02> can someone help me with my cd-rom drive?
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> Who is ubotwo?
[21:02] <moreati> ut2004player: k, you may still find it magically works
[21:02] <|2-bits|> a bot
[21:02] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: hang on you should be able to log in from here let me check
[21:02] <spzatt> Help : wine wont work, i did CD to the directory my .exe is in, but it just says : christer@christer-desktop:~$ wine mirc631.exe
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> What is wrong with ubotu?
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> Is he sick? Virus?
[21:02] <da_duke> i need help with converting fat32 in ext3. is it possible?
[21:03] <|2-bits|> Odd-rationale:  a bot that answers questions. the new version, hence the two
[21:03] <|2-bits|> I think
[21:03] <Skiessi> http://217.77.200.3/sampopankki/omakysymys/tietoturva/ does this work for anyone?
[21:03] <moreati> da_duke: converting it to what?
[21:03] <jrib> spzatt: that's what you say to your computer, but what does it say back?
[21:03] <da_duke> convert fat32 to ext3
[21:03] <spzatt> jrib : this is what it says !!        christer@christer-desktop:~$ wine mirc631.exe
[21:03] <moreati> Skiessi: yes, a foreign language website
[21:03] <jrib> spzatt: press enter
[21:03] <spzatt> jrib i did
[21:03] <spzatt> im not stupid
[21:04] <Skiessi> ...you can handle it probably
[21:04] <symptom> can anyone help me with dual monitors
[21:04] <spzatt> jrib : wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\mirc631.exe": Module not found
[21:04] <spzatt> i did CD to the directory my file is in
[21:04] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: you really need to get to a command line, are you sure the system hangs when you go to (recovery mode)?
[21:04] <jrib> spzatt: is mirc631.exe in your HOME?
[21:04] <moreati> da_duke: copy the data somewhere else, then format the partition as ext3, direct conversion isn't possible
[21:04] <spzatt> no on my desktop
[21:04] <jrib> spzatt: you are in ~ not ~/Desktop
[21:04] <spzatt> ..
[21:04] <RionM> hello all - I'm having trouble getting all files to show up in my samba share from a widoze machine....it seems that something arbitrarily chooses to not show some files
[21:05] <jrib> spzatt: do you understand?
[21:05] <spzatt> that... worked
[21:05] <hellhound> what version and installation type of ubuntu should i choose for a home file server with the following specs: Xeon 32 bit 2Ghz processor with 512KB cache; 1x011.30 MB memory, and three partitions (509.8MB swap, 2.0GB /, 593.7GB /home)
[21:05] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: pretty sure, i'll give it another shot but last time it hung and it just stopped at the same place as before
[21:06] <jrib> hellhound: latest stable ubuntu server?
[21:06] <tonyyarusso> hellhound: 1x011.30 MB memory?  huh?  Anyway, I'm somewhat partial to headless server setups, so the server install would be my choice.
[21:06] <moreati> hellhound: ubuntu 7.10 for x86
[21:06] <genuser> Choose alternate install
[21:06] <polter> g'day. anyone which option for cpu-type I want to compile (apt-build) for when using amd64 in 32bit-mode?
[21:06] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: You should probably make your / partition larger
[21:06] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: just try and wait it out, it really does take a long time
[21:06] <tonyyarusso> hellhound: (has an automatic file server option even, utilizing SAMBA)  For FTP, I recommend vsftpd.
[21:06] <LimCore> polter: for k8
[21:06] <LimCore> polter: I think
[21:06] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: wait like 10min.  but once you get in once, you can fix this problem and should be able to boot in under a minuite after that
[21:06] <LimCore> also ask ##c
[21:06] <polter> LimCore, I 'think' so to,, but that doesn't cut it for me :)
[21:06] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: alright then
[21:07] <jordan> I need help installing packages
[21:07] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: are you on a laptop?
[21:07] <LimCore> polter: whats the problem? also ask ##c
[21:07] <moreati> jordan: which package(s)?
[21:07] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: actively yes but for osx not ubuntu, that is on a desktop
[21:07] <polter> LimCore, well, I want to be sure I have it set up right before compiling lots of stuff.. it's optimization I want
[21:07] <jordan> moreati: a p2p program
[21:08] <hellhound> Odd-rationale: I have a RAID5 setup and I used to use SUSE 10.1 at which point I have setup the partitions with those sizes and I do not want to lose the data on the /home partition by resizing the / partition
[21:08] <LimCore> polter: it's k8
[21:08] <moreati> jordan: you're looking for one, or you have chosen one and need help with it?
[21:08] <vallhalla81> where can i find my hardware list?
[21:08] <polter> LimCore, thank you
[21:08] <genuser> lspci
[21:08] <RionM> I'm sharing 130,000 files but some do not show up
[21:08] <LimCore> ok, k8 or k8-sse3
[21:08] <LimCore> k8, opteron, athlon64, athlon-fx
[21:08] <LimCore>     AMD K8 core based CPUs with x86-64 instruction set support. (This supersets MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3dNOW!, enhanced 3dNOW! and 64-bit instruction set extensions.)
[21:09] <ut2004player> moreati: its says in the installation setup "guided - use entire disk or manual" which do i pick for dual boot? (windows is using 35 gb out of my total 40gb)
[21:09] <LimCore> polter: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html
[21:09] <danand> vallhalla81 - type lshw in a terminal - you may wnat to run that as root - sudo lshw
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: ok. just letting you know that 2gb is the *minimum*. But whatever you want to do is fine.
[21:09] <polter> LimCore, I've read it. But stuff just seem to work.. badly
[21:09] <jordan> moreati: I have found one. But when I go to install it it asks for the authentication code and I type it in. But after that it tells me that I have another pakage installing program open
[21:09] <moreati> ut2004player: is it not presenting an option for guided, where it resizes the windows partition?
[21:09] <vallhalla81> please can any one tell me where i find my hardware list?
[21:09] <Prefi1> !hardy
[21:09] <ubotwo> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[21:10] <hellhound> is there anyway on the live CD to choose packages to install or not install (I( do not need openoffice as well as many other programs)
[21:10] <genuser> hardy isn't stable
[21:10] <LimCore> polter: for problems with flgs try ##c   What are you using apt-build on? Oldbian or noobuntu? does it work well overall?
[21:10] <ut2004player> moreati: no its just says use full disk.
[21:10] <jordan> moreati: I don't have windows on this computer
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: You can install a cli system then install only the packages you want.
[21:10] <LimCore> oh wait, its #ubuntu - I thought we are on ##linux never mind
[21:10] <danand> vallhalla81 - type   sudo lshw in a terminal. or look under system -> preferences -> hardware info
[21:10] <polter> LimCore, Ubuntu 7.10, it seems to work for most packages.. but I just want to make sure it's as optimized as possible
[21:10] <moreati> jordan, which p2p package are you trying to install?
[21:10] <LimCore> ok
[21:10] <jordan> moreati: limewire
[21:11] <hellhound> Odd-rationale: what is a cli system?
[21:11] <ut2004player> sry not full says "enitire disk"
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: Command Line System
[21:11] <ut2004player> *entire
[21:11] <RionM> Has anyone had any trouble with some files not showing up in your samba shares?
[21:11] <jordan> moreati: I think it's a problem with the software managment tools
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: Command Line *Interface
[21:12] <moreati> ut2004player: use manual and _carefully_ resize the windows partition. Then create a root partition atleast 5GB in size with ext3 as the filesystem, and a swap partition. If you haven't backed up your data. DO IT NOW!
[21:13] <jordan> moreati: but what will that do? and I don't have a windows disk
[21:13] <ut2004player> moreati: i dont have any storage to back up my data :( do i have to back up?
[21:13] <moreati> jordan: did you download the windows version of limewire?
[21:13] <jordan> no
[21:14] <IndyGunFreak> ut2004player: it'd be silly not to, proceed at your own risk w/o a backup
[21:14] <hellhound> Odd-rationale: ah ok...lastly do you know of a way to safely resize a partition from the live cd without reformatting?  in other words grab another gig from the /home partition without losing the existing data from the /home partition (i know that I have several GB of free space on that partition)
[21:14] <sinbox> jordan, do you have add/remove  and the synaptic manager open at the same time?
[21:14] <vallhalla81> please can anyonee tell me where i can find a list of my hardware
[21:14] <jordan> Imoreati: I am installing the linux version
[21:14] <moreati> ut2004player: well, be aware that whenever you install any operating system there is a risk of loosing _everything_
[21:14] <x0rg62> linux rocks , i think
[21:14] <ut2004player> yea, i know ...
[21:14] <TigerArmy> RionM: No
[21:14] <moreati> vallhalla81: lshw, lsusb, lspci
[21:14] <scofmb> how can i chance the default desktop without using gdm? my installation log into console at startup
[21:14] <jordan> moreati: the only things I see open are the internet and Package Installer
[21:14] <vallhalla81> moreati: thank you
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: You can use gparted for that. 95% accurate, i would say
[21:15] <danand> vallhalla81 - you've been answered three times already
[21:15] <moreati> ut2004player: just so you know the risk, partitioning is a risky process
[21:15] <moreati> if you don't know exactly what you're doing
[21:15] <IndyGunFreak> riskier than an LA gas station at 1am
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: You can find gparted in your live ubuntu disc
[21:16] <vallhalla81> sorry i mised earlyer posts
[21:16] <hellhound> Odd-rationale: thank you
[21:16] <RionM> hello all - I'm having trouble getting all files to show up in my samba share from a widoze machine....it seems that something arbitrarily chooses to not show some files
[21:17] <moreati> jordan: hmm limewire isn't in my package manager or add remove programs, could you post the page where you downloaded it, or tell me if you downloaded a deb or a tar.gz
[21:17] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: no luck as of yet on that by the way, still hanging at the same spot
[21:17] <Odd-rationale> hellhound: my pleasure
[21:17] <jordan> moreati: It's on their website here http://www.limewire.com/download/download.php?version=linux_deb
[21:17] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: is it displaying anything on the screen at all?
[21:18] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: yup, full screen of text
[21:18] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: just hasn't moved in 12 minutes
[21:18] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: what sort of things is it displaying?
[21:18] <IndyGunFreak> moreati: you'll need to install java to make it work I think
[21:18] <Intangir> im looking for a program that can send keys/keysequences to a window, even if its minimized or on another virtual desktop
[21:18] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: try pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[21:18] <moreati> IndyGunFreak: I don't want it, jordan does
[21:18] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[21:19] <SoulBlade> i have a weird setup in that i get no interrupts from my mouse, but stuff is being written to /dev/input/mouse1 when i move my mouse and it's jumpy - what would cause that?
[21:19] <moreati> jordan, did it open a window with an 'install package' button in the top right corner?
[21:19] <gregbrady> Is there a way, in Ubuntu, to batch process digital pictures?  Like reducing the size of them?
[21:19] <jordan> moreati: synaptic says to run 'dpkg --configure -a' but I need superuser privlages
[21:19] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: it'd take me a long time to type out the entire screen, but the last line is [   24.809685] CR2: ffff814237c07530     - and ctrl alt f1 dosen't do anything
[21:19] <jordan> moreati: yes
[21:20] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: can you type?
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> jordan: sudo then command.. so sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:20] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: no
[21:20] <da_duke> hi
[21:20] <moreati> jordan: to run that with superuser privs use sudo, so the command is 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[21:20] <ut2004player> moreati: i have decided to do install later when i backup, i tryed ipconfig it says syntax error? o_O
[21:20] <moreati> ut2004player: wise precaution, the command is ifconfig
[21:20] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: well that is really wierd, you should see text of output of things that are loading, not just a bunch of giberish
[21:21] <jordan> moreati: it says 'command not found'
[21:21] <ut2004player> moreati: "command not found"
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> aptfix
[21:21] <jordan> moreati: nevermind
[21:21] <da_duke> can i convert a vfat partition into an ext3 partition?
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[21:21] <moreati> spooky
[21:21] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:21] <LjL> gregbrady: sure. try imagemagick
[21:22] <gregbrady> ljl:  thanks, I will try that!
[21:22] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: well there's a bunch of lines like that, there's a line a few above it saying [   24.808841]  Code: 4d 8b 00 49 8d 4e 40 48 3b 4e 40 74 1e 83 2d 37 e2 28 00 01
[21:22] <jordan> moreati: now that I typed that in am I finished? it doesn't give me any more directions
[21:22] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: same sort of thing that was happening with the regular bootup
[21:22] <moreati> da_duke: for the second time, you can't. copy the data elsewhere, then format as ext3, use mke2fs on the command line or there's probably also a gui way
[21:22] <da_duke> can i convert a vfat partition into an ext3 partition?
[21:22] <da_duke> pls query me
[21:22] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: that is not normal, even for this bug
[21:23] <v3ctor> da_duke: no, you cannot convert.
[21:23] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: yeah, thats why i'm here heh
[21:23] <phoenix5002> well anyway, write this down:
[21:23] <danand> bigjon32 - is there _anything_ on the screen thats readable??
[21:23] <moreati> jordan: one sec
[21:23] <ut2004player> :( spooky is not a command .........
[21:23] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: if you ever get to a command line to fix the splash screen type "sudo nano /etc/usplash.conf" and then edit the xres and yres to match your screens resolution
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> da_duke: No.
[21:24] <jordan> moreati: there's not. the package is installing. thank you for your help!
[21:24] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: it looks like output from a loading screen, its just like what's behind the window's loading bar on xp - it wouldnt mean anything to me
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> da_duke: You must reformat. So backup! :)
[21:24] <moreati> phew, who's waiting?
[21:24] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: do you see a bunch of ....[OK] 's?
[21:25] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: did before but not now
[21:25] <moreati> ut2004player: hi again, one sec
[21:25] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: oh well if you did before then that's good news I guess
[21:25] <ut2004player> k
[21:25] <bobgill> How do I add a module to be auto-loaded at every boot ???
[21:25] <arrow> does anyone know the best way to install "glest"?
[21:25] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: well maybe someone else can better help you get to a command line
[21:26] <moreati> ut2004player: ok, ifconfig failed to run. correct?
[21:26] <ut2004player> yes
[21:26] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: and once ur there just do what I wrote, then reboot and you should be fine, good luck :)
[21:26] <moreati> ok, top right next to the time, is there an icon that looks like two computer monitors?
[21:26] <ut2004player> oh wait
[21:26] <ut2004player> no i am wrong
[21:26] <ut2004player> it works sry -_-
[21:26] <tcpdumpgod> wewt
[21:26] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: alright, well thanks for your help -- every time i try to get linux running (been trying and getting hung up and giving up and coming back for several years now) i run into something like this.. i really want to get this working this time lol
[21:27] <moreati> ut2004player: ok, also run 'route' and 'lsmod', ok?
[21:27] <ut2004player> ok
[21:27] <luckyone> how do I get "Custom" to show up in my Appearance Preferences > Visual Effects tab?
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> arrow: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Glest
[21:28] <moreati> ut2004player: now scroll up and select all the text in that window, then right click and copy the text. ok?
[21:28] <ut2004player> ok
[21:28] <luckyone> I can only see none, normal, and extra
[21:28] <guestsuper> where's the virtual keyboard ?
[21:28] <moreati> now paste that text into http://pastebin.ca and post the link to the resulting page here
[21:28] <bigjon32> So my Ubuntu 7.10 is hanging at startup and phoenix5002 and i can't figure out how to get to a command line... anyone have an idea?
[21:28] <danand> luckyone - do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[21:29] <luckyone> danand: just read that I needed it, thanks!
[21:29] <LollinopiL> where's the virtual keyboard ?
[21:30] <arrow> thx Odd-rationale
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> arrow: np
[21:31] <Jeeves2> what's the syntax for CRON to run a command every 5 mins?
[21:31] <Intangir> i need to know how to send a keystroke to an inactive window
[21:31] <rcwh> hello, i'm having problems installing cups. i've run apt-get install cupsys and i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/m2fcee805
[21:32] <Jeeves2> crontab?  anyone?
[21:32] <ut2004player> um
[21:32] <nbkr> Jeeves2, */5 * * * * /path/to/script
[21:32] <Jeeves2> nbkr:  thanks.  that's what I've got, I just wanted to check
[21:33] <ut2004player> where can i find the notepad application in ubuntu?
[21:33] <palomer__> how do I stop ubuntu from going nuts when I put a DVD in my drive?
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> ut2004player: gedit
[21:33] <ut2004player> where is that?
[21:33] <moreati> palomer__: define 'going nuts'
[21:33] <nbkr> palomer__, Deactive the autoplay.
[21:33] <legend2440>  LollinopiL for virtual keyboard type onboard in terminal
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> ut2004player: Apps --> accs --> Text editor
[21:33] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: can you boot into Ubuntu with the Install CD?
[21:33] <palomer__> nbkr, how?
[21:33] <ut2004player> ah ok
[21:33] <Jeeves2> palomer__:  my I sudgest a stiff couple of shots?
[21:33] <moreati> ut2004player: Applications _ Accessries -> Text Editor
[21:34] <nbkr> ut2004player, Press "alt-f2" and enter "gedit" into the popup (without the quotes)
[21:34]  * moreati is beaten to the punch
[21:34] <CD_Garage> g
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> moreati: :)
[21:34] <nbkr> palomer__, System -> Settings -> Removable Media
[21:34] <moreati> Odd-rationale: it's really way past time I leared to touch type
[21:34] <palomer__> got it
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> mortal_: Me, too...
[21:35]  * Odd-rationale hunt and pecks...
[21:35] <Jeeves2> does anyone here have any luck with mencode?  I'm getting errors when I try to encode the output of a bunch of time lapse vides that I've made with it.
[21:35] <phoenix5002> BIGJON32
[21:35] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: yeah i could last time
[21:35] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: giving it a try now
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> opps wrong nick....
[21:35] <SoulBlade> do you guys have plug and play os as yes in your bios when booting to ubuntu?
[21:35] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: yup works
[21:36] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: you should be able to edit the usplash.conf file on ur hardrive from the CD
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> SoulBlade,  i normally set mine to NO. it used tobe that worked better for linux ages ago. Not sure about now a days.,
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> SoulBlade, yes
[21:36] <moreati> SoulBlade: i've had both, not noticed any difference
[21:36] <SoulBlade> ok
[21:36] <SoulBlade> well i think i have a weird irq conflict
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> SoulBlade,  possibly. :) try it the other way and see
[21:36] <SoulBlade> b/t usb and my sound card
[21:36] <SoulBlade> yea
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> SoulBlade, I make it a point to never agree with Dr_Willis    (Just kidding)
[21:37] <moreati> SoulBlade: if you aren't using them, disable the paralell/serial port, frees and irq
[21:37] <moreati> s/and/an
[21:37] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: alright, waiting on it to come up --- i may have spoken too soon in which case im really confused since the same cd has worked just fine before
[21:38] <jordan> moreati: sorry to bother you again but the install stops at 'Preparing sun-java6-jre
[21:38] <SoulBlade> ah thats a good idea too
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> SoulBlade, Sorry I didnt see your problem.. but disable quiet and splash by pressing F6 at start or install and editing the line
[21:38] <SoulBlade> do you have your bios assign an irq for usb and vga?
[21:38] <Jeeves2> Jack_Sparrow:  'sup, long time no chat
[21:38] <moreati> jordan: np, have you used automatix at all?
[21:38] <palomer__> are there any alternatives to k9copy?
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeeves2, Hi, I dont get in here much on the weekends...  I spend enough time during the week.
[21:39] <jordan> moreati: what's that?
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !info dvd95
[21:39] <ubotwo> dvd95: DVD9 to DVD5 converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2p0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 253 kB, installed size 564 kB (Only available for None)
[21:39] <moreati> jordan: never mind, it's best avoided
[21:39] <highli> Guys firefox and ephiphany are forwarding google.com to google deutschland
[21:39] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: It should, let me know when ur in
[21:39] <highli> and I don't know why
[21:39] <sfears> i have a huge src folder located in my home folder.. is it necessary after things are compiled or can i delete it?
[21:39] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: kk
[21:39] <highli> Could someone help me?
[21:39] <jordan> moreati: ok, I'll stay away from it then
[21:39] <joe__> !flash
[21:40] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:41] <ut2004player> um how do you safely remove usb device?
[21:41] <highli> Could somone help me figure out why google is being redirected to google duetschland in firefox and ephiphany and no in opera or icecape?
[21:41] <moreati> jordan, could you paste the full output and the command you ran to http://pastebin.ca please
[21:41] <highli> ut2004player unmount it by right clicking
[21:41] <highli> and going to unmount
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> highli: Try clearing your cookies and cache.
[21:42] <jordan> moreati: do you mean the sudo command you told me about?
[21:42] <sfears> i have a huge src folder located in my home folder.. is it necessary after things are compiled or can i delete it?
[21:42] <moreati> yes, and everything that was printed after it
[21:42] <akumar__> wat does the floodbot do?
[21:42] <jordan> moreati: I don't have it saved anywhere but I'll run it again
[21:42] <ut2004player> um how do you unmount click where?
[21:42] <moreati> sfears it can be deleted, if you don't want to install from it again and there are no changed files you want to keep
[21:43] <sfears> changed files?
[21:43] <highli> right click on the usb icon on your desktop and unmount is an option
[21:43] <jordan> moreati: actually, I don't remember the command :/
[21:43] <moreati> sfears, nm I thought you might have made changes to the source code before you compiled it
[21:43] <sfears> ic
[21:44] <sfears> there are a lot of kernel sources.. do i need them to remove unwanted kernels?
[21:44] <moreati> jordan: where is the text 'Preparing sun-java6-jre' that you said it got stuck on?
[21:44] <moreati> sfears: no
[21:44] <sfears> cool.. thanks moreati
[21:44] <palomer__> dvd95 is cool
[21:44] <mentally> does anybody know where i can get some themes for xchat ?
[21:44] <victorribeiro> anybody know any good game's channel?
[21:44] <mib_ksx8ggnk> hey anyone know how to compile and install a new kernel from scrach
[21:45] <mib_ksx8ggnk> i got the source already
[21:45] <jrib> !kernel > mib_ksx8ggnk (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:45] <beautifulsnow> Oh ubuntu? sudo apt-get install linux-whatever-you-want?
[21:45] <moreati> mib_ksx8ggnk: sorry that's a little in depth for me
[21:45] <jester7> i can't believe hardy's new color scheme is peach :|
[21:45] <beautifulsnow> jester7: Could you link me?
[21:45] <synth> _3v1n0_, are you gonna update your debian-builder? or is it done
[21:45] <beautifulsnow> jester7: Could you link me? to the theme that is ^_^
[21:46] <jester7> i just installed it in virtualbox
[21:46] <mib_ksx8ggnk> all i need is the kernel
[21:46] <highli> Ok somethings not right here guys no google is redirecting to google canada
[21:46] <highli> now*
[21:46] <synth> google sets the language based on the IP you come from when someone sets a cookie
[21:46] <moreati> highli: so? what have you got against canadians :)
[21:46] <beautifulsnow> highli:  hehe! You can create a google account and tell it which version to use
[21:47] <synth> I've seen one german person set to google.de and have a whole office all of a sudden go to google.de
[21:47] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: no dice on the CD now, this worked before...
[21:47] <highli> No i have a feeling someone is playing with my traffic here
[21:47] <legend2440> mentally: http://www.xchat.org/files/
[21:48] <mib_ksx8ggnk> when i installed
[21:48] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: that is extremely strange as the CD is independant of the hardrive.....
[21:48] <mentally> legend2440 and how i have to install these themes ?
[21:48] <bigjon32> phoenix5002; you're telling me...
[21:48] <mib_ksx8ggnk> Ubuntu server it came up with a kernel cannot be found
[21:49] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: did anything change on your computer since you tried last?
[21:49] <mib_ksx8ggnk> any fixes?
[21:49] <moreati> Jeeves2: a bit late, but try http://www.robertplank.com/cron/
[21:49] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: hmm maybe your not actually booting from the CD
[21:49] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: nope, running the cd test right now.. i can try removing things though
[21:49] <hanophix33> can someone help me install adobe reader 8.1?
[21:50] <hanophix33> i downloaded it as tar.gz
[21:50] <hanophix33> but can't get it to install
[21:50] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: got a capturecard, thats about it and it's been in since i installed it
[21:50] <mib_ksx8ggnk> hey how do i compile and install (not update(
[21:50] <mib_ksx8ggnk> a kernel
[21:50] <moreati> hanophix33: ok, what have you tried so far?
[21:50] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: do you know how to get to boot options when u turn on your comp?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> I thought adobe reader was in the medibuntu repositories.
[21:50] <mib_ksx8ggnk> yep
[21:50] <hanophix33> moreati:  extracting to desktop and installing
[21:50] <jester7> can i post screenshots in that service used to post error messages?
[21:50] <hanophix33> moreati: terminal tar -zxvf AdobeReader_enu-8.1.2-1.i486.tar.gz
[21:50] <jester7> or is it text only?
[21:50] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: yeah.. is acting really weird right now
[21:51] <coverup> is there a channel for ppc users?
[21:51] <hanophix33> moreati: that last terminal entry was supposed to put it in opt/adobe but it didn't
[21:51] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ur boot options are acting wierd?
[21:51] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: no, just this whole thing
[21:51] <strangelove> i love ubuntu
[21:51] <farruinn> coverup: if there is, it's probably #ubuntu-ppc
[21:51] <moreati> hanophix33: adobe reader is in the medibuntu repositoy, if you configure that you'll be able to install adobe reader from Add/Remove packages, like any other program. How does that sound?
[21:52] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: well I gotta go so I'm just gonna tell you everything.....ok?
[21:52] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: everything should be stable in the system ran full on memtest when i was trying to figure out what was going on befoe i found out my last hard drive was bad
[21:52] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: that's fine
[21:52] <hanophix33> moreati: adobe 8.1?
[21:52] <moreati> yup, 8.1.3
[21:52] <mib_ksx8ggnk> when the kernel is compiled where do the compiled files go???
[21:52] <hanophix33> where can i find info for the repositor=
[21:52] <moreati> hanophix33: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[21:53] <lensy> hi
[21:53] <markp1989> hi
[21:53] <mib_ksx8ggnk> is any1 gonna help?
[21:53] <lensy> im having MASSIVE problems with my server
[21:53] <ostrangelve> i love ububtu
[21:53] <lensy> anyone feel like helping?
[21:53] <mib_ksx8ggnk> ur tellin me
[21:53] <pathy> hi
[21:53] <hanophix33> moreati: thanks
[21:53] <beautifulsnow> I love Ubuntu more than you ostrangelve
[21:53] <ostrangelve> but i need help
[21:53] <lensy> same
[21:53] <Lordveda> Do someone need to add new repositories to get pidgin 2.4?
[21:53] <beautifulsnow> lensy: Just ask :) !ask > lensy
[21:53] <pathy> what is the startup script that i need to edit to auto install wireless drivers?
[21:53] <lensy> why me?
[21:54] <moreati> hanophix33: I liead a bit, reader doesn't appear in add/remove, it does appear in syanptic as acroread
[21:54] <Jeeves2> is anyone here good with shell scripting?
[21:54] <lensy> ostrangelve do u feel ignored
[21:54] <pathy> im having to start the wireless interface manually evert time i boot atm
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lordveda, No, I got the new version from getdeb.net
[21:54] <nbkr> Jeeves2, just ask you question.
[21:54] <lensy> i am having HUGE problems with my server please help...
[21:54] <lensy> i need help very badly
[21:54] <Jeeves2> I need to make an encoding script run in parellel
[21:54] <ostrangelve> how do i connect my ubuntu laptop to a configure a cisco router
[21:54] <beautifulsnow> Lordeva, go to Applications>Settings>administration>sources ... enable all sources.... go to Add Remove, theres a drop down list, select ALL software, and search for pidgin :3
[21:54] <mib_ksx8ggnk> ok i compiled my new kernel so now wat?
[21:55] <nbkr> lensy, just ask your question, nobody can help you If you don't tell whats your "HUGE problem" is.
[21:55] <DIL> lensy, YOU CONTINUE ULESS YOU STATE UR PROB
[21:55] <chainsawbike> Jeeves2, ##bash mabe?
[21:55] <Lordveda> beautifulsnow: Are you talking to a windows user?
[21:55] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: ok so your best bet now is to boot from the LiveCD, if it doesn't appear to be working then you need to make SURE your booting from the CD by going to your systems boot options.  This is done by pressing F10, or F12 or some other key combination when you first see anything on your screen.  they keys are different for some computers so u might have to look it up.  Once you get into the LiveCD follow the instructions on this l
[21:55] <lensy> my server will not do samba, will not serve up a website but it can connect to the internet and it can answer pings
[21:55] <lensy> and webmin will not work remotely either
[21:55] <pathy> what is the startup script i need to edit to add "sudo /path.../wlan0up" to ?
[21:55] <pathy> to autostart the wireless interface
[21:55] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: good luck :)
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme | lensy
[21:55] <beautifulsnow> Lordveda:  ^_^ no, its on the gnome taskbar menu
[21:55] <ubotwo> lensy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:56] <lensy> i did ask the question
[21:56] <Lordveda> I already have pidgin 2.2 installed
[21:56] <Lordveda> :)
[21:56] <Lordveda> I am looking for pidgin 2.4.0
[21:56] <lensy> my server will not do samba, will not serve up a website but it can connect to the internet and it can answer pings
[21:56] <HACKhalo2> How do you upgrade your Ubuntu to the next Version?
[21:56] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade
[21:56] <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:56] <chainsawbike> lensy, firewall?
[21:56] <genius> hello, i have notebook and Intel 945. How to disable internal monitor so external will work?
[21:56] <lensy> chainsawbike: ????
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> lensy,  you did install the samba service? YOu do realize you normally dont want to have samba running over the internet?   as for the website. You did install the webserver?
[21:56] <lensy> no no
[21:56] <moreati> Lordveda: can you wait for Hardy, if so it's the easiest way to get any upgraded software
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Lordveda, http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin
[21:57] <lensy> the server is at my house
[21:57] <brophat> can the dvd burning software that gets loaded with ubuntu make a dvd from an avi file?
[21:57] <lensy> it all worked perfectly
[21:57] <bigjon32> phoenix5002:  are you just saying to reinstall?
[21:57] <lensy> then it suddenly came down
[21:57] <lensy> last sunday
[21:57] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: no lol
[21:57] <lensy> and ir hasnt worked sinse
[21:57] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: did you mean to put a link?
[21:57] <phoenix5002> yes
[21:57] <lensy> does anyone have any insght into my problem
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> lensy,  NOW you are giving some real info. :)   - does the services work locally?
[21:57] <pathy> i know its like init.d or something, but i cant remeber i :<
[21:57] <lensy> i cant test samba
[21:57] <lensy> but
[21:57] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: didn't show up
[21:57] <lensy> apache does
[21:58] <lensy> and webmin does
[21:58] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: did u read it?  You need to get into your live CD then follow the instructions on link to mount your hard drive while using the CD
[21:58] <Odd-rationale> brophat: no. data only. Try qdvdauthor
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> lensy,   sounds like the router, or firewall is blocking things then.
[21:58] <phoenix5002> then you can edit the splash screen
[21:58] <lensy> no
[21:58] <HACKhalo2> so it'll keep all my installed items when I upgrade?
[21:58] <lensy> it cant be that
[21:58] <moreati> pathy: /etc/rc.local i believe
[21:58] <lensy> they dont work to the local network either
[21:58] <lensy> also the router settings havent been changed
[21:59] <moreati> lensy can you ssh into the server, or are you sitting at it?
[21:59] <Odd-rationale> HACKhalo2: Yes.
[21:59] <lensy> im sitting at it
[21:59] <HACKhalo2> sweet
[21:59] <lensy> ill try sshing into it from my ubuntu laptop
[21:59] <phoenix5002> ok all the link said is to go to a terminal and type:
[21:59] <phoenix5002> sudo mkdir /recovery
[21:59] <phoenix5002> sudo umount /dev/hda1
[21:59] <phoenix5002> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /recovery -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[21:59] <lensy> im on my ubuntu laptop chatting to you
[21:59] <bigjon32> phoenix5002: there was no link.  but i think i can dig around and figure out how to
[21:59] <HACKhalo2> will that still work if I upgrade into Beta?
[21:59] <moparisthebest> does anyone know of repos where I can get packages for the 2.6.24 kernel?
[21:59] <mib_ksx8ggnk> ok when i tried to install a new server everything was fine until it couldnt find a kernel so that step was skipped but how do i install a kernel for it?!?!?
[22:00] <lensy> moreati: thats another thing
[22:00] <Odd-rationale> HACKhalo2: I would assume so
[22:00] <lensy> it wont VNC either
[22:00] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: I just wrote out everything the link said
[22:00] <HACKhalo2> coolies
[22:00] <beautifulsnow> mib_ksx8ggnk: your ubuntu server doesnt have a kernel installed?
[22:00] <lensy> and it also wont do ssh
[22:00] <moreati> moparisthebest: no, wait for Hardy unless you want a world of hassle
[22:00] <lensy> ssh doesnt work on my server moreati
[22:00] <mib_ksx8ggnk> nope
[22:00] <phoenix5002> bigjon32: so use that with everything I wrote, if you can get into your LiveCD it should actually be pretty simple...I really gotta go, best of luck to you
[22:00] <lensy> i cant ssh into my server
[22:00] <lensy> (8)
[22:00] <moparisthebest> I have to have drivers that are only in 2.6.24 now though moreati, but there aren't such packages premade I can download?
[22:00] <moreati> lensy, can you ping the server from your laptop and vice versa
[22:01] <lensy> yes i can ping the server from my laptop
[22:01] <lensy> ill try the other way
[22:01] <moreati> lensy stop repeating yourself, and please be patient
[22:01] <beautifulsnow> mib_ksx8ggnk: pop the live cd, go into rescue mode, once you're in, type apt-get install linux-386 ... wait for it to install. type exit, select reboot.  (this is asuming you're using a Intel based processor)
[22:01] <Lordveda> moreati: is ubuntu following opensuse's way in getting upgraded version of software in newer in distribution versions?
[22:01] <mib_ksx8ggnk> THANK YOU!!!!!!
[22:01] <beautifulsnow> mib_ksx8ggnk:  let me know if theres anything else
[22:01] <beautifulsnow> you need
[22:01] <Linux_Fresher> Hi!! Q = when i click on any GUI item in ubuntu linux, is there a way to see what commands bash runs side by side ?
[22:02] <moreati> Lordveda: all Linux distros upgrade individual applications by upgrading the whole system (usually every 6 months), it has it's benefits and drawbacks.
[22:02] <legend2440> moparisthebest: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> lensy,  you sure it aint somthing simple like the router gave the machne a different ip# recently?
[22:02] <polter> uuuh, why does apt want to "upgrade" from my own packages to the one in the repos?
[22:03] <moreati> Lordveda: if you install a new version manually, then you have to configure and maintain that application yourself. Which is tricky unless you're used to it.
[22:03] <naknomik> Doesn't ubuntu come with a good programmer's editor by default?
[22:03] <Lordveda> moreati: I have found Fedora 8 to include pidgin 2.4.0 in its update policy even though it included pidgin 2.2.x originally.
[22:03] <lensy> yes all the IPs are correct Dr_willis
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[22:03] <naknomik> I find gedit grossly inadequate
[22:03] <ubotwo> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[22:03] <moreati> Lordveda: interesting, i didn't know that
[22:03] <lensy> moreati: i can ping my laptop from the server and visa versa
[22:03] <Linux_Fresher> Rephrasing my Q --> How to see what Bash commands run when I click on any GUI menu .. lets say like Calculator
[22:04] <naknomik> the default vim that's installed doesn't support syntax highlighting!
[22:04] <JDStone> what stage is Hardy in?
[22:04] <JDStone> beta?
[22:04] <BlueElmo> !code
[22:04] <ubotwo> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[22:04] <moreati> lensy: on the server is the sshd process running, use 'ps aux | grep sshd'
[22:04] <v3ctor> naknomik: you need to turn it on
[22:04] <Lordveda> moreati: I come from a Fedora background.
[22:04] <beautifulsnow> Linux_Fresher: I think you'd have to run the command from console?
[22:04] <Lordveda> :)
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy | JDStone
[22:04] <ubotwo> JDStone: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[22:04] <beautifulsnow> JDStone: Its alpha r6 still
[22:04] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Go to the menu editor, right click the calculator and see the properties.
[22:04] <naknomik> v3ctor: I typed :syntax on and it says it's not supported or some such thing
[22:04] <zetheroo> is there anywhere online where you can create your own irc chat ?
[22:04] <JDStone> beautifulsnow: Jack_Sparrow thanks guys
[22:05] <moreati> zetheroo: you mean your own channel?
[22:05] <Linux_Fresher> beautifulsnow  .. erm .. calculator is just an example .. i want to keep a terminal running and see what commands run there when I click any icon
[22:05] <lensy> moreati: what should it say if it is?
[22:05] <JDStone> the eBox platform is broken on Gutsy
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Fresher,  i tend to add the icon to the panel, then right click onit and look at its properties.
[22:05] <moreati> oh dear
[22:05] <naknomik> v3ctor: When I type :syntax on, I see this: E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version
[22:05] <zetheroo> moreati: yes
[22:05] <moreati> lensy: paste the output to pastebin please
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Fresher,  or you can use the menu editor tool to look and see what they are running
[22:05] <lensy> moreati: i just got my username and root with a whole load of crap after it
[22:05] <nbkr> zetheroo, Own channel -> Just join it, own server -> try ircd
[22:05] <Linux_Fresher> Dr_Willis gimmi a sec to run virtual box
[22:06] <moreati> zetheroo: what nbkr said
[22:06] <naknomik> emacs that I installed doesn't have PHP highlighting mode!
[22:06] <Linux_Fresher> brb getting in here through ubuntu
[22:06] <alex123> hi guys, is there a hardy heron channel? or should I ask hardy related questions here?
[22:06] <v3ctor> naknomik: it is :syntax enable
[22:06] <nrp> alex123: #ubuntu+1
[22:06] <lensy> moreati: http://www.pastebin.com/m4b295918
[22:06] <alex123> nrp, thanks
[22:06] <moreati> alex123: try #ubuntu+1
[22:07] <naknomik> v3ctor: Same result, E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version.
[22:07] <lensy> moreati: i pastebinned it :)
[22:07] <v3ctor> naknomik: odd...works here
[22:07] <moreati> lensy: there's nothing at that page
[22:07] <zetheroo> moreati: what is Own channel?
[22:07] <nbkr> naknomik, What version do you have?
[22:07] <lensy> moreati: ??? WTF
[22:07] <moreati> zetheroo: what do you want to do?
[22:07] <naknomik> nbrk: vim-tiny
[22:07] <naknomik> looks like I need to get vim
[22:08] <nbkr> zetheroo, "Own channel" -> Our own channel.
[22:08] <nbkr> naknomik, sudo apt-get install vim
[22:08] <zetheroo> moreati: I want to run an IRC chat without having to setup a server
[22:08] <nbkr> naknomik, full version with syntax highlightning and everything.
[22:08] <beautifulsnow> Could anyone tell me the command to install the most barebones gnome ever? (just gnome itself, any extra stuff like firefox, gedit etc) i will install as needed)
[22:08] <moreati> or sudo apt-get install gnome-vim
[22:08] <nbkr> zetheroo, Sorry, your own channel.
[22:08] <coincoin169> hello
[22:08] <lensy> moreeati: http://pastebin.com/m4b295918
[22:08] <kestir> Hi, can someone tell me what where to look to learn more about having commands run at startup/boot?
[22:09] <lensy> there :) that one works :)
[22:09] <ArthurArchnix> zetheroo: Type "/join Zetheroos-Happy-Funtime-Channel
[22:09] <zetheroo> nbkr: but I want it to be open 27/7
[22:09] <coincoin169> can you help me with bluetooth and pand ???
[22:09] <moreati> lensy: sshd is running
[22:09] <zetheroo> nbkr: even when i am offline
[22:09] <beautifulsnow> kestir: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialInitProcess.html
[22:09] <lensy> moreati: so whats the problem then?
[22:09] <moreati> lensy when you try to ping are you using ip address or host name?
[22:10] <lensy> IP address
[22:10] <nbkr> zetheroo, Then you'll need a bot. Thats a small application that runs on a server that joins your channel and just stays there.
[22:10] <lensy> why
[22:10] <moreati> lensy: homour me
[22:10] <kestir> beautifulsnow: awesome, thank you very much
[22:10] <moreati> humour
[22:10] <zetheroo> nbkr: so I have to setup a server
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[22:10] <ubotwo> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:10] <lensy> moreati: how??
[22:10] <lensy> moreati: i am doing
[22:10] <nbkr> zetheroo, Yes - or you'll find some service provider that hosts those application for you.
[22:11] <moreati> lensy are you pnging by ip or by host name?
[22:11] <lensy> moreati: im pinging by IP address..
[22:11] <beautifulsnow> Hello is there a way to install a barebones gnome (no apps like gedit, office, or anything, JUST gnome ^_^;) Thanks
[22:11] <v3ctor> moreati: he said IP
[22:11] <moreati> v3ctor: lensy sorry I missed the first response
[22:11] <lensy> np
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> beautifulsnow, Install server edition.. and add Gnome to it
[22:12] <moreati> lensy are you try to do the ssh connection by hostname or IP?
[22:12] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: install ubuntu .... never mind.
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[22:12] <lensy> moreati: im doing the ssh by IP
[22:12] <moreati> damn, bang goes the dns theory
[22:12] <lensy> moreati: yup :)
[22:12] <coincoin169> can you help me with bluetooth and pand ???
[22:12] <lensy> moreati: i wondered if it was firestarter cos i installed that recently, but its not running at the moment
[22:13] <HACKhalo2> Where would I find the Beta release of the Next Version?
[22:13] <moparisthebest> where does ubuntu put firmware? /lib/firmware ?
[22:13] <mjbraun> I'm mystified: I have a device that shows under /proc/scsi/scsi, but that I cannot get to show up under /dev
[22:13] <ArthurArchnix> After stumbling across a thread on the forums that about mono, I found that I could remove it entirely from my system. Without any ill effect. That I've noticed anyway.
[22:13] <v3ctor> lensy: how do you know it is not running?
[22:13] <beautifulsnow> Jack_Sparrow: Yes thats what I have, and thats what I want, ^_^; Whats the name of the package for gnome itself, no extra junk (not that its junk...)
[22:13] <moreati> ok, let's port scan to confirm or refute that
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> HACKhalo2,  Next versionof what?  #ubuntu+1 for the next ubuntu release.
[22:13] <lensy> v3ctor: i closed it and exited it
[22:13] <v3ctor> lensy: sudo iptables -L
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lensy, If you reconfigured your iptables with firestarter it does not need to be running to be the problem
[22:13] <ut2004player> moreati: http://pastebin.ca/935777
[22:13] <alex123> hm no reply at #ubuntu+1... so i'll ask here: is hardy going to fix the keyboard on macbook pro v4 (the penryn ones)? Or is there a fix available for gutsy?
[22:13] <legend2440> beautifulsnow: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[22:13] <ut2004player> i have posted my log
[22:13] <genius> is there any documentation about how to tune xorg.conf?
[22:13] <Alfarin> I just made the jump from Windows about a week ago, and I'm still learning.  I'm coming across a disc image which I was able to mount via Daemon Tools on Windows but I can't seem to mount here on Ubuntu, upon analysis, I believe it is because the iso file is > 700mb in size (larger than standard CD discs, which it is marked as, as opposed to a DVD image)
[22:13] <joe__> Whats a good text editor for linux?  I want something like notepad++
[22:14] <beautifulsnow> Yes legend2440 I am reading that however it doesnt install gnome
[22:14] <ut2004player> sory for the wait moreati....
[22:14] <Alfarin> Is there any known remedy to work around that limitation?
[22:14] <beautifulsnow> legend2440: it installs icewm
[22:14] <joe__> With nice syntax highlighting, and tabs
[22:14] <LimCore> joe__: with gui?  kate and kedit are quite good general purpose
[22:14] <moreati> lensy: are you happy running nmap from the command line, or would you prefer a gui frontend?
[22:14] <mjbraun> joe_: emacs?
[22:14] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: What are you trying to do? By installing this barebone gnome I mean...
[22:14] <moreati> ut2004player: bear with me a few minutes
[22:14] <joe__> mjbraun, forgot about those, thanks
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> joe__,  theres dozens of editors out for linux, most blow away any editors on windows machines.
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Alfarin, 700meg Image is for CD's
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: I doubt that is the problem. What commad are you using to mount th sio?
[22:14] <mjbraun> Joe__: If you're coding, Eclipse is nice
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> *iso
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> joe__,  I perfer 'fte' for a lot of my needs. :)
[22:15] <beautifulsnow> ArthurArchnix: I just need the gui, i dont need gedit office im etc etc so i dont want to install the whole desktop, just window manager and such
[22:15] <Alfarin> Jack_Sparrow> it is a "CD" not "DVD" which is why
[22:15] <joe__> I want something lightweight, (not an IDE)
[22:15] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> mount -o loop -t iso-9660 ./discimage.iso /media/disc_image/
[22:15] <zewb> to speed up any linux system all you have to do is type: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> joe__,  i tend to install several editors, and pick what one to use, depending on the task i am doing.
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Alfarin, 700meg Image is for CD's...  I think you are missing the point
[22:15] <mjbraun> joe__: nano (aka pico) is a nice simple editor
[22:15] <Alfarin> zewb> quit trolling >_>
[22:16] <lensy> moreati: i would prefer a GUI
[22:16] <moreati> lensy: one sec then
[22:16] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: Does your disc image have spaces?
[22:16] <zewb> to speed up any linux system all you have to do is type: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:16] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: If you just need a gui, then fluxbox is probably a better choice. Better documentation on what you're doing. If you insist on gnome, but again, look at the boxes, once you have your server install do: sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[22:16] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> it had spaces, I renamed it to without (exactly as named now; discimage.iso) and it still doesn't work
[22:16] <v3ctor> lensy: gksu nmapfe
[22:16] <vinnetu> hi, i have a troubles with aMule, programm does not connect to any server, who know why?
[22:16] <zewb> to speed up any linux system all you have to do is type: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:17] <zewb> vinnetu: try this: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> !ops | zewb
[22:17] <ubotwo> zewb: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger for emergencies) Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow
[22:17] <Alfarin> zewb> you're getting very annoying, why don't you just fark off?
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: Does your maoiunt point exist?
[22:17] <coincoin169> can you help me with bluetooth and pand ???
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> *mount
[22:17] <beautifulsnow> thanks ArthurArchnix Im using flux atm, but im soooo used to gnome you know? :) will try out gnome-core, thanks
[22:17] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: Also, when you're in the terminal you can do stuff like "sudo apt-cache search gnome | more"
[22:17] <zewb> coincoint169: type: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:17] <v3ctor> lensy: what exactly is your issue?
[22:17] <DIL_> !fark
[22:17] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:17] <zewb> coincoin169: type: sudo rm /etc/*
[22:17] <lordleemo> zewb: go away loser
[22:17] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> I've created it via "sudo mkdir /media/disc_image/", but I'm not sure if there's anything else I should do
[22:17] <beautifulsnow> i know ArthurArchnix its just i woudlnt have a clue whichi package im supposed to install hehe
[22:17] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: That will show you all packages with gnome in the name... slowly
[22:18] <lensy> moreati: i was also told to check IP tables which i have done and i have put the output on pastebin.com [22:18] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: So do sudo aptitude .. which is synaptic for the terminal.
[22:18] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: Includes descriptions and everything.
[22:18] <moreati> lensy: please install nmapfe on your laptop
[22:18] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: What error message you get?
[22:18] <lensy> moreati: what will it do?
[22:18] <Alfarin> one sec, lemme go to copy and paste it
[22:18] <lensy> moreati: can u give me the command to install it again?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !danger
[22:18] <coincoin169> zewb you know something about bluetooth ?
[22:18] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:19] <Alan_M> whaaa?
[22:19] <coincoin169> i won't rm my conf files
[22:19] <lensy> moreati: also can u look at that pastebin output of IPtables?
[22:19] <moreati> lensy: it's a frontend to nmap, use synaptic from the system->administration menu
[22:19] <v3ctor> lensy: you shutdown firestarter, but it did not flush iptables
[22:19] <kestir> Is it possible to move an install onto another physical drive?  I'd like to move off of an 80GB drive and onto a 500GB
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: Pastebin if more than threee lines
[22:19] <moreati> lensy: I don't know how to read iptables stuff
[22:19] <Alan_M> ubotwo's cooler than version 1.0 :P
[22:19] <v3ctor> lensy: it is as if it is still running
[22:19] <lensy> ok
[22:19] <kupo> hey channel
[22:19] <lensy> so how do i sort it?
[22:19] <darx>  what is this configuration for "hesiod domain for searches"? the default is .canonical.com.. what does it do? :-|
[22:19] <ArthurArchnix> beautifulsnow: I used to try and do that, but I found it's easier (and for me better) to just install default gnome then strip it down. Currently I've got about 900 packages installed, 2.3 GB of HD space used by the OS, and 95MB at boot. And  it looks and acts just like a default ubuntu install.
[22:19] <lensy> v3ctor: how do i sort it?
[22:19] <kupo> anyone have some experience with WPA in lenny?
[22:19] <gregbrady> bradley__ : Did you get everything straightened out?
[22:20] <DIL_> kestir, dd
[22:20] <stdin> Alan_M: ubotwo is a temporary replacement, not version 2
[22:20] <lensy> v3ctor: how do i sort IP tables out and un-screw all the crap?
[22:20] <moreati> lensy: v3ctormay I leave you two together, I don't know iptables and it sounds like that's where the problem lies
[22:20] <Alan_M> ah, ok :)
[22:20] <beautifulsnow> ArthurArchnix:  im currently in a wireless connection that feels like dial up
[22:20] <bradley__> gregbrady: not yet, my computer i STILL reformmating partitons
[22:20] <lensy> moreati: thanks for all ur help
[22:20] <Alan_M> stdin, thanks for the confusion control ;)
[22:20] <coincoin169> can you help me with bluetooth and pand ???
[22:20] <v3ctor> lensy: sudo iptables -F
[22:20] <xb3rt> are you setting up wireless?
[22:20] <moreati> ooh that's nice and simple :)
[22:20] <beautifulsnow> ArthurArchnix:  im downloading at 14kbps LOL ;___;
[22:20] <gregbrady> bradley__: Wow, that is taking forever!!!!
[22:20] <lensy> v3ctor: and that will (or should bring all my stuff back online?)
[22:20] <moreati> ut2004player: are you still there?
[22:21] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> I know the drill ;)  http://pastebin.ca/935786
[22:21] <bradley__> gregbrady: yeah i was going to stop it but it said it might cause a critical error
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> v3ctor, sudo iptables -F                 ?
[22:21] <v3ctor> lensy: then: sudo iptable -X
[22:21] <cedeel> Hi, anybody know how to fix a grub error?? All I get after a reboot is GRUB _
[22:21] <gregbrady> bradley__:  wow, too bad.
[22:21] <v3ctor> lensy: then: sudo iptables -X
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> v3ctor, Sorry.. didnt see that you got it
[22:21] <xb3rt> Why doesn't my ubuntu have wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:21] <v3ctor> Jack_Sparrow: isn't that what i put?
[22:21] <kupo> cedeel: you'll need to boot into your system with a cd and run grub-install on your hd
[22:21] <bradley__> gregbrady: yeah, how long r u on
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[22:22] <v3ctor> ok
[22:22] <kupo> cedeel: aka /dev/sda ( or whatever yours is)
[22:22] <bradley__> gregbrady: maybe u can still help l8r
[22:22] <v3ctor> got confused for a sec
[22:22] <jjjja> i take madwifi for wpa usage
[22:22] <gregbrady> bradley__:  I might be around...I will have to see how the evening develops
[22:22] <lensy> v3ctor: will all my stuff be back online now?
[22:22] <xb3rt> jjjja can you give me a hand
[22:22] <v3ctor> lensy: try it
[22:22] <bradley__> gregbrady: sounds good, ok
[22:22] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: yeah i have the same issue, it used to work with wpa, but after reinstall no option for wpa in network manager
[22:22] <lensy> v3ctor : THANKS! :D:D:D
[22:22] <ArthurArchnix> Anybody use bibus? I need help with using it. The manual sucks. :(
[22:22] <v3ctor> lensy: if it was a firewall issue, it should
[22:23] <gregbrady> bradley__:  Keep at it!
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: Are you in the directory containing the iso?
[22:23] <Alfarin> yes: http://pastebin.ca/935787
[22:23] <cedeel> kupo - did that already
[22:23] <bradley__> gregbrady: yeah i really want the compiz effect on my laptop... i have em on this computer
[22:23] <xb3rt> Housefly8k what are you using for wireless
[22:23] <Alfarin> sorry I forgot to include the ls
[22:23] <cedeel> I think it sees it in a different order
[22:23] <kupo> cedeel: hmmmm
[22:24] <kupo> you should be able to get into grub at least
[22:24] <Linux_Fresher> Hi again .. soz it took a bit longer
[22:24] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: unfortunately my friend has my laptop so i couldnt do anything to fix it, but i just noticed it yeterday when i was in the library
[22:24] <Chousuke> Alfarin: run "file" on the .iso image
[22:24] <cedeel> will "sudo grub-install /dev/dsa" screw up my win-install?
[22:24] <moreati> v3ctor: thanks for that, I must read up on iptables. Lensy, You  may of mentioned it earlier, sorry if I missed it. When something like this goes wrong next time, be sure to mention anything you changed or installed recently, like firestarter.
[22:24] <cedeel> since linux is on sdc
[22:25] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: You shouldn't need the "./" just sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 discimage.iso /media/disc_image/
[22:25] <Linux_Fresher> yeah the Q: is there a way to see what commands go through the terminal when i click any of the desktop icons/menu etc REALTIME ?
[22:25] <DIL_> sda
[22:25] <v3ctor> moreati: its all good
[22:25] <Alfarin> discimage.iso: data
[22:25] <Tooommi> Is there an easy way to switch nautilus to thunar in gnome?
[22:25] <mwoah> hello people i have the files but i need to make them in .exe file ( to code make them in "lcc-win32" but i'm a newbie can somebody please help me i will send him all files just he to make them .exe file pLS ! ) ?
[22:25] <Chousuke> hm
[22:25] <Chousuke> Alfarin: possibly corrupted image.
[22:25] <xb3rt> Housefly are you using xchat
[22:25] <Chousuke> Alfarin: it should say ISO9660 filesystem or something similar.
[22:25] <kestir> Tooommi: uninstall nautilus and install thunar
[22:25] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> same error
[22:25] <cedeel> kupo: will "sudo grub-install /dev/dsa" screw up my win-install?
[22:25] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: no irssi
[22:25] <v3ctor> moreati: ip > route > dns > firewall
[22:25] <xb3rt> is it better
[22:25] <v3ctor> moreati: that is the troubleshotting path i usually follow
[22:26] <Alfarin> Chousuke> I don't think that's the case because it is extracted from a 3% recovery record rar archive
[22:26] <DIL_> cedeel: sda no?
[22:26] <Chousuke> Alfarin: it might still be bad.
[22:26] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: Have you tried with out "-t iso9660" ?
[22:26]  * bradley__ ha
[22:26] <Alfarin> Chousuke> but I'll definetly check into that by taking the image to my dad's windows machine to verify
[22:26] <Tooommi> kestir: no. I already have thunar and nautilus installed. Is there no other way of switching the default file manager?
[22:26] <moreati> v3ctor: I was getting there slowly, it would have been nice to know that the firewall had recently been changed
[22:26] <cedeel> DIL_ win is on sda lin is on sdc
[22:26] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> I did; don't remember the exact error, one sec.
[22:26] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: thats what some websites recommended...but i thought xchat and pidgin were perfectly fine for my usage
[22:26] <lensy> v3ctor: sorry, nothing doing... :'(
[22:26] <v3ctor> moreati: agreed, next time assume it has ;)
[22:26] <Chousuke> Alfarin: it might also be in some non-iso format.
[22:26] <Alfarin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[22:26] <DIL_> cedeel: sda instead of dsa
[22:26] <kestir> Tooommi: what do you mean "default"...you're choosing which one to use
[22:26] <kupo> cedeel: sorry eating adonut
[22:27] <kestir> Tooommi: type thunar instead of nautilus
[22:27] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: i think if you dont use IRC alot pidgin or xchat are good
[22:27] <Alfarin> Chousuke> I suspect it might be the case; I hate old game discs where they stick data track and music tracks on the same disc
[22:27] <v3ctor> lensy: can you ping anything?
[22:27] <moreati> v3ctor: of course there's one step before ip, physical: is it plugged in? :)
[22:27] <jickles> what is /usr/local usually used for?
[22:27] <lensy> v3ctor: from the server?
[22:27] <v3ctor> moreati: oops, forgot that one
[22:27] <Tooommi> kestir: when I doubleclick on an icon on something like that nautilus starts
[22:27] <xb3rt> i have pidgin
[22:27] <cedeel> DIL_ i know it's sda... my question is if I should use sda or sdc
[22:27] <v3ctor> lensy: what exactly is the issue?
[22:27] <Linux_Fresher> Q: How to see what commands Terminal / Bash is running when i click on any GUI menu / icon REALTIME? [ not right click --> properties ]
[22:27] <jrib> jickles: things you install system-wide without using the package manager
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> Alfarin: OK. I'm out of ideas... Sorry :(
[22:27] <jickles> jrib, thanks
[22:28] <Alfarin> Odd-rationale> no worries, thanks for trying anyways :)
[22:28] <jrib> !fhs > jickles (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:28] <lensy> v3ctor: its still the same, nothing still works, it wont VNC, no samba, no Apache, no webmin
[22:28] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: yeah i was using pidgin for irc before
[22:28] <kestir> Tooommi: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[22:28] <lensy> v3ctor: i cant even get it from another machine on my LAN
[22:28] <xb3rt> i guess i didnt realize pidgin was capable
[22:28] <Tooommi> kestir: thanks :)
[22:28] <kupo> ok cedeel so you want to install on your mbr of your primary hddrive
[22:28] <kupo> whatever that is
[22:29] <kestir> Tooommi: no problem, sorry for being difficult...
[22:29] <Housefly8k> xb3rt: yeah it is, you just set up another account and choose the IRC server you want to connect to
[22:29] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: what do you want to know that right clicking on the ubuntu icon, "edit menus", properties  does not tell you?
[22:29] <moreati> lensy: if you've uninstalled firestarter, then iptables shouldn't come up at boot. have you tried a reboot?
[22:29] <DIL_> cedeel: your syntax was off in original ? thats all
[22:29] <jickles> !fhs
[22:29] <ubotwo> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[22:29] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: and what do you mean by "REALTIME"?
[22:29] <jickles> jrib, thanks :>
[22:29] <Tooommi> kestir: no problem. I could have googled. And I know the psychocats site. I was lazy :)
[22:29] <cedeel> I get "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[22:30] <kupo> cedeel: shouldn't affect your win installation since grub just chainloads windows
[22:30] <kupo> cedeel: you understand?
[22:30] <ut2004player> moreati: did you find the problem?
[22:30] <cedeel> yes
[22:30] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  umm .. Mandrake had a facility of 'details' tab on almost every window where it attaches a bash window to the application window where one gets to see what commands are being run in the back ground realtime .. that kind of real time
[22:30] <cedeel> but it won't even install grub
[22:30] <moreati> ut2004player: no, I've got some things for you to try, can we speak off channel?
[22:31] <Linux_Fresher> jrib: my english is kinda weak .. i could try to simplify the question further i guess
[22:31] <kupo> cedeel: I'm not understanding why
[22:31] <ut2004player> ok
[22:31] <ut2004player> pm me
[22:31] <kupo> cedeel: you booted into your existin install?
[22:31] <SoulBlade> yea so it looks like my USB is just kind of messed up... i have a usb->ps/2 adapter and when i put that in, my mouse is fine... just hook up a usb mouse and its choppy as all hell
[22:31] <cedeel> no - livecd
[22:31] <kupo> btw Anyone can help with a network manager problem?
[22:31] <beautifulsnow> !ask > kupo
[22:31] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: just to see if I am understanding:  You want a gui way to retrieve the same information you would have gotten if you had run the gui application from a terminal?
[22:31] <kupo> beautifulsnow: thx
[22:31] <cedeel> can't boot into my install since grub won't work
[22:32] <SoulBlade> i cant do anything w/ mythtv either and that uses a usb pvr
[22:32] <kupo> !ask
[22:32] <ubotwo> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:32] <beautifulsnow> cedel pop in livecd and go in rescue mode?
[22:32] <kupo> ubotwo: I'm aware of normal irc ettique but its a bit involved of a question
[22:32] <beautifulsnow> then go ahead and ask
[22:32] <AkumaNoTsubasa> hi all
[22:33] <kupo> I have WPA set up and functioning in network manager its just not working on system startup
[22:33] <Housefly8k> jrib: I think what he needs is to see the working behind a program... so if he launches any program and starts using it, he wants to see the working behind that program.... in a terminal
[22:33] <v3ctor> kupo: you are explaining yourself to a bot ;)
[22:33] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  i think you are right .. something like i have a terminal open with nothing on it .. i click on calculator,  the command for calc should appear in that terminal window the moment i click calculator from start ---> accessories menu
[22:33] <cedeel> beautifulsnow: that's what i'm trying here
[22:33] <kupo> v3ctor: yeah i just realized after in pm'd me
[22:33] <DIL_> cedeel: so how do you know if your install worked
[22:33] <kupo> !ask helo
[22:33] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:33] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: k, I understand now, but unfortunately, do not know how
[22:33] <kupo> !ask help
[22:33] <cedeel> DIL_ won't until it tries to boot the kernel i guess
[22:34] <beautifulsnow> kupo whats the question
[22:34] <v3ctor> kupo: give the best summary of your problem that you can(in channel) and we will pull out the details we need(if we can help)
[22:34] <AkumaNoTsubasa> I have a problem with a wifi connection (orange operator (if people know here (french))), In this moment I am using a non protected wifi connection of one of my neighbours, but I can't use mine :(
[22:34] <Housefly8k> !fr
[22:34] <ubotwo> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:34] <AkumaNoTsubasa> I see it, I write the WEP key, but it fails
[22:34] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  Mandrake linux had it .. i cant seem to find it here in ubuntu .. i bet ubuntu is much advanced than mandrake .. so its there for sure i think .. cant find it though :)
[22:34] <NattyTux> anyway to use grep in C++????????
[22:34] <DIL_> cedeel: it boots to windows i assume, try linux reinstall
[22:34] <LjL> NattyTux: tried asking in ##c++?
[22:35] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: maybe you can find out exactly what it is called and what software is responsible for it in mandrake?
[22:35] <AkumaNoTsubasa> the wep key is good (it works on window (on an other partition))
[22:35] <Housefly8k> !fr | AkumaNoTsubasa
[22:35] <ubotwo> AkumaNoTsubasa: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:35] <NattyTux> not yet..gonna do it now,thaks
[22:35] <kupo> v3ctor: I've set up a WPA network with PSK, ubuntu can use the connection fine using the connection manager but it won't work on system startup, I need to go in and manually enable it
[22:35] <AkumaNoTsubasa> ok thanks
[22:35] <cedeel> DIL_ it will not boot windows since my bootloader is replaced (by a non-functioning one)
[22:35] <LollinopiL> what is ebox ?
[22:35] <joe__> !beryl
[22:35] <ubotwo> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[22:35] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  erm !! that was my 2nd Q !! if anyone remembers what was the name of that module !! :(
[22:35] <joe__> !compiz
[22:35] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:35] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: ask in the mandrake channel
[22:35] <lensy> !proftpd
[22:35] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:35] <BlueElmo> Linux_Fresher: may I ask why you need that ?
[22:35] <lensy> !ask proftpd
[22:35] <basic_> does ubuntu 7.10 innately support sata drives?
[22:36] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  lol now why didnt i think of that before !! brb !! good suggestion !! ^^
[22:36] <basic_> because i can't get any live boot cds to work on my pc.
[22:36] <kupo> !ask I've set up a WPA network with PSK, ubuntu can use the connection fine using the connection manager but it won't work on system startup, I need to go in and manually enable it
[22:36] <ubotwo> kupo: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:36]  * Alfarin is back
[22:36] <lensy> basic_: i would imagine it does... There fairly common by now :)
[22:36] <LollinopiL> what is ebox ?
[22:36] <jrib> basic_: works for me
[22:36] <LjL> !away > Alfarin    (Alfarin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:36] <Alfarin> just tested that image on my dad's windows box and it works
[22:36] <basic_> fcuk,
[22:36] <LjL> !language | basic_
[22:36] <basic_> it could be the optical drive. will installing from a mounted virtual img work with 7.10?
[22:36] <ubotwo> basic_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:36] <basic_> sry. :o
[22:37] <Alfarin> oops, closed wrong tab
[22:37] <jrib> basic_: wait, you mean a sata cd drive.  That I can't say I know from experience
[22:37] <lensy> moreati: are you still there?
[22:37] <danand> Tooommi - take a look in /etc/alternatives to set the default file manager app
[22:37] <Alfarin> Re: Lwhotever that got the bot to send me message, I didn't change nick; I just /me'ed ;)
[22:37] <basic_> jrib: a sata hdd drive, sorry i should have clarified.
[22:37] <moreati> lensy: did the reboot help at all?
[22:37] <Tooommi> danand: I will. thanks
[22:37] <lensy> moreati: the reboot?
[22:37] <lensy> moreati: i didnt reboot, should i have?
[22:37] <jrib> basic_: ok, then yes it should work.  But the live cd shouldn't need the hdd to boot I believe
[22:37] <Tooommi> danand: but I think I will keep nautilus. Too much of a hassle
[22:38] <moreati> I suggested that following the uninstall of firestater that you reboot, to be sure that iptables is cleared
[22:38] <pumpitup> is there a kubuntu 8.04 support channel^
[22:38] <ArthurArchnix> Anyone use bibus or know of a good how-to use guide?
[22:38] <jrib> pumpitup: use #ubuntu+1
[22:38] <manaburn> go to #kubuntu
[22:38] <basic_> is fedora as user friendly as ubuntu?
[22:38] <LjL> !ot | basic_
[22:38] <lensy> moreati: come to the private channel i need to discuss something with you...
[22:38] <ubotwo> basic_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:38] <manaburn> no fedora is for a little more advanced users
[22:38] <beautifulsnow> Does anyone have a helpful guide on how to resolve apt dependencies
[22:38] <danand> Tooommi - believe you can change the default action just by changing what app the symlink in /etc/alternatives points to
[22:38] <basic_> thanks mana.
[22:38] <snypzz_> trying to use wine to run msoffice
[22:38] <LjL> manaburn: what nonsense
[22:38] <kupo> beautifulsnow: what sort of problems are you having?
[22:38] <jrib> beautifulsnow: guide?  apt handles dependencies all on its own
[22:39] <ArthurArchnix> basic Head over to #fedora and ask.
[22:39] <manaburn> np
[22:39] <kane77> how can I get cpu load?
[22:39] <LjL> !best
[22:39] <ubotwo> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[22:39] <kupo> snypzz_: can't use openoffice?
[22:39] <moreati> lensy, I'm helping someone else at the moment, please wait a bit
[22:39] <lensy> moreati: sure, sorry, i didnt know u were busy :)
[22:39] <kaur> snypzz, why msoffice?
[22:39] <DIL_> cedeel: well options boot with live cd and locate grub and edit, repair mbr with windows disk repair (fixmbr) and try again if this is initial install
[22:39] <basic_> wow.
[22:39] <fabio_> top
[22:39] <xb3rt> I just unpacked irssi off synaptic and now i cant find it....can anyone help
[22:39] <moreati> lensy, np
[22:39] <basic_> this channel is policed lol.
[22:39] <basic_> pz.
[22:39] <beautifulsnow> kupo, not a problem at the moment, just want to learn how to just in case
[22:39] <lensy> moreati: kk
[22:39] <snypzz_> need to use outlook
[22:39] <LjL> !etiquette > basic_    (basic_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:39] <kupo> beautifulsnow: you're using a apt right?
[22:39] <kupo> then you won't have to worry about dependencies
[22:40] <kaur> snypzz, for syncing?
[22:40] <beautifulsnow> yes kupo
[22:40] <Tooommi> danand: thanks for your help. I will try it
[22:40] <snypzz_> evolution mail
[22:40] <danand> kane77 - try htop for monitoring system load
[22:40] <kane77> fabio_, was that to me?
[22:40] <basic_> ljl, i've got it
[22:40] <Housefly8k> kane77: use "top" in terminal
[22:40] <kaur> xb3rt, synaptic installs packages for u
[22:40] <kupo> beautifulsnow: apt is set up specifically to do just that
[22:40] <basic_> no need to hold my hand, thx.
[22:40] <lensy> does anyone know about my problem other than moreati and v3ctor?
[22:40] <fabio_> top for the cpu load
[22:40] <snypzz_> evolution mail  not working for me is there another mail app
[22:40] <ArthurArchnix> Failing that... anyone using reference software other than bibus?
[22:40] <beautifulsnow> kupo:  i remmeber getting a bunch of *tries to remmber* i think it said it coudlnt install because it coulndt install this one thing,and then coudlnt install this other one thing...
[22:40] <ThaRabbit> snypzz_: try thunderbird?
[22:40] <kupo> beautifulsnow: if you ever want to really experience what "dependency hel;
[22:40] <kaur> snypzz, thunderbird
[22:40] <kane77> Housefly8k, hmm... isn't there something else? I need it for a program I'm working on..
[22:41] <lensy> im having a problem getting ubuntu to serve up samba, VNC, and webmin
[22:41] <xb3rt> kaur: i know, thats why im confused
[22:41] <kupo> beautifulsnow: if you ever want to really experience what "dependency hell" is go install slackware
[22:41] <lensy> it worked until last sunday when it broke
[22:41] <snypzz_> ok I will
[22:41] <danand> Tooommi - just make sure you write down where the link originally pointed to in case you make a mistake and need to reset it :)
[22:41] <kaur> xb3rt,  what confuses u?
[22:41] <beautifulsnow> Yeah kupo slax BLEH ... I coudlnt live with it for more than a few daysn ;p
[22:41] <xb3rt> kaur: I installed the irssi package and its no where to be seen
[22:41] <snypzz_> still want to run guild wars though
[22:41] <kupo> beautifulsnow: because?
[22:41] <qcjn> hi, i've tried to format a hard disk with qparted. There was window on it. I've format the first partition. It became unknown format, and know i only have acces to propriety when i right click
[22:42] <ThaRabbit> xb3rt: sudo updatedb -> sudo locate irssi ?
[22:42] <joe__> about how much does a 512 mb of ram cost?
[22:42] <Housefly8k> kane77: what do you want it to do exactly?
[22:42] <kupo> joe__: dealram.com ?
[22:42] <fabio_> kane77, gnome-system-monitor
[22:42] <Devourer> Where do I download VMWare for 7.10?
[22:42] <joe__> kupo, thanks
[22:42] <snypzz_> where do I put the folder so that wine can find it???
[22:42] <beautifulsnow> kupo just too much to fix :P I like learning about how linux works, but I dont want to spend weeks trying to make it work ;)
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> qcjn: what are you trying to format it too?
[22:42] <Tooommi> danand: thanks for the tip
[22:42] <danand> kane77 - try htop for cpu load. I find that a bit better than top. - just apt-get install htop if you dont have it
[22:42] <Devourer> VMWare player that is.
[22:42] <qcjn> Odd-rationale: ext3
[22:42] <danand> Tooommi - did that work for you?
[22:42] <kupo> beautifulsnow: unfortunetly the best way to learn is to break it.. a lot
[22:42] <jrib> xb3rt: it runs in a terminal.  Just type 'irssi' and head over to irssi.org for the documentation
[22:43] <manaburn> try googling VMeare
[22:43] <kupo> beautifulsnow: join your local LUG also
[22:43] <DIL_> Devourer: from VWware
[22:43] <manaburn> VMware*
[22:43] <beautifulsnow> kupo I don't know as much about Linux as I used to, I went a couple of years without my own computer so I forgot it all >_>
[22:43] <DASPRiD> where is the swap partition with LVM configured?
[22:43] <manaburn> or check the repos
[22:43] <kaur> xb3rt,  run in terminal
[22:43] <Tooommi> danand: actually, I haven't tried
[22:43] <al-_-Gir> !howto EXE
[22:43] <kane77> Housefly8k, I need some simple program that would give the percentage of cpu load (I want to use in my program to draw graph etc)
[22:43] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:43] <Devourer> DIL_, it's not in the repositories?
[22:43] <danand> Tooommi - ok :)
[22:43] <snypzz_> really like this channel.....
[22:43] <kaur> xb3rt,  open terminal and type irssi
[22:43] <jrib> al-_-Gir: do you have a question we can help you with?
[22:43] <al-_-Gir> !HOW TO DLL
[22:43] <DIL_> Devourer: problems instlling from there
[22:43] <snypzz_> thanks all......
[22:43] <LjL> !fishing | al-_-Gir
[22:43] <bradley__> gregbrady: its almost done, just 20 minutes left now
[22:44] <ubotwo> al-_-Gir: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[22:44] <Tooommi> danand: Maybe tomorrow, when I have time to fiddle around with linux :)
[22:44] <Odd-rationale> qcjn: Go to Options --> Configuration And set the External Tools to mkfs.ext3
[22:44] <DIL_> Devourer: i did anyway
[22:44] <al-_-Gir> jrib , how i can run exe ? in ubuntu ?
[22:44] <Linux_Fresher> BlueElmo: soz, was in mandrake channel , well, i could tell you why i need that but it would be off topic .. wouldnt want to disturb this channel with off topic .. you are most welcome to pm me though
[22:44] <gregbrady> bradley__:I think it would be faster to make a hard drive from scratch!
[22:44] <Devourer> DIL_, oh.
[22:44] <xb3rt> kaur: that gave me some info...thanks
[22:44] <beautifulsnow> al-_-Gir:  search google for WINEHQ it lets you run windows programs
[22:44] <bradley__> gregbrady: yeah, it takes a LONG time
[22:44] <kaur> xb3rt,  no problem
[22:44] <al-_-Gir> thanks
[22:45] <DrZaius55> Howdy.  I'm new to ubuntu (like it) been a gentoo user for years.  I'm used to compiling my own kernel, but I'm wandering how much utility setting pre-emption and clock frequency actually.. any ideas?
[22:45] <beautifulsnow> al-_-Gir:  also read this nice guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[22:45] <manaburn> (>'.')>
[22:45] <beautifulsnow> KIRBYDANCE
[22:45] <manaburn> YAY
[22:45] <Housefly8k> kane77: i am not sure how to do that, I use a program called conky and it does that for me
[22:45] <Tooommi> <(  '-')>
[22:45] <manaburn> <('.'<)
[22:45] <Housefly8k> kane77: maybe you can look at hoe conky does it
[22:45] <jrib> al-_-Gir: ubuntu and windows are very different.  You should look at the native ubuntu applications for what you want to do instead of trying to use an exe on ubuntu.  If you find you must, you can try to use wine
[22:45]  * beautifulsnow .. ermm.. BF is playing new smash game on wii *goes do kirby  dance on front of him* ^_^
[22:45] <jrib> !wine > al-_-Gir (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:45] <qcjn> Odd-rationale: ok,i've done it, but still only gives me propriety
[22:45] <kane77> Housefly8k, okay.. thanx
[22:46] <LjL> !ot | beautifulsnow
[22:46] <UnknownUnivers1> How do I unzip all zip files in the current dir
[22:46] <ubotwo> beautifulsnow: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:46] <jrib> !software > al-_-Gir (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:46] <LjL> UnknownUnivers1: unzip *.zip
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> qcjn: Delete that partition and recreate it.
[22:46] <mttr> Any good program to repair damage mp3 ( i have over 70 that need repairs)
[22:46] <axel> Hello! How to extract an ISO-File?
[22:46] <al-_-Gir> thanks jrib
[22:46] <qcjn> Odd-rationale: i can't delete it
[22:46] <jrib> ubotwo: for file in *.zip; do unzip $file; done
[22:46] <LjL> jrib: sorry, i can't allow ubotwo to interpret bash commands
[22:47] <jrib> LjL: heh
[22:47] <fabio_> axel, isomaster ?
[22:47] <lensy> my server will not work
[22:47] <axel> fabio_: Thanks I'll try it.
[22:47] <lensy> v3ctor: are you there????? :-|
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> qcjn: Is that partition the whole disk?
[22:47] <manaburn> where????
[22:47] <DASPRiD> where is the swap partition with LVM configured?
[22:47] <lensy> im looking for v3ctor
[22:47] <stemount^> Hey guys! has anyone used a Compact Flash card with their Ubuntu setup? Thinking about using it
[22:47] <lensy> he was helping me and now hes gone
[22:48] <Linux_Fresher> jrib: yeah Mandrake somehow attaches strace to icons / menus etc .. is it possible to do the same in ubuntu ? if yes then how
[22:48] <qcjn> Odd-rationale: ii was the first partition
[22:48] <lensy> i think im about to cry...
[22:48] <manaburn> lol
[22:48] <lensy> with frustration
[22:48] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: not in a straghtforward manner that I can think of
[22:48] <manaburn> whats your propblem?
[22:48] <qcjn> i ve tried to format it in ext3, and i think it f*** somethin
[22:48] <Odd-rationale> qcjn: have you tried gparted instead?
[22:48] <DIL_> !fdisk | qcjn
[22:48] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:49] <qcjn> Odd-rationale: no
[22:49] <lensy> manaburn: my server suddenly stoped doing VNC, samba, and Apache after i installed firestarter
[22:49] <DIL_> !fdisk
[22:49] <lensy> manaburn: so i flushed IP tables as instructed by v3ctorand now hes gone
[22:49] <lensy> manaburn: and its still broken
[22:49] <fabio_> !gnu-fdisk
[22:50] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:50] <qcjn> DIL_: sudo fdisk ?
[22:50] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  aww .. anyways, thanks a loads for your time mate
[22:50] <fabio_> !info gnu-fdisk
[22:50] <lensy> :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
[22:50] <lensy> *sobbing*
[22:50] <ubotwo> gnu-fdisk: linux fdisk replacement based on libparted. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 116 kB, installed size 320 kB (Only available for None)
[22:50] <myth-newb> I am having performance issues with my onboard x1250 card. shearing during hd playback and stuttering for the frist few seconds of a large vob. Is the card just weedy or is it lack of linux support for this card
[22:50] <myth-newb> ?
[22:50] <peppe> hello
[22:50] <kaur> hi
[22:50] <mttr> Help Any suggestions  to repair damage mp3 ( i have over 70 that need repairs)
[22:50] <lensy> im just so fed up of being ignored in here...
[22:50] <mttr> what is your problem lensy
[22:50] <kaur> lensy, take it easy
[22:50] <peppe> &list
[22:50] <DIL_> qcjn, it is another tool that may assist, yes
[22:50] <ubotwo> peppe: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Dict, Encyclopedia, Filter, Misc, Owner, Services, and User
[22:51] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  btw will u be around for some more time ? i have some real bad issue on step 4 of installation of ubuntu from live cd to Hard Drive .. right now i am in vmware .. will need to reboot
[22:51] <LjL> lensy: don't spam like that please
[22:51] <peppe> !LIST
[22:51] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:51] <LjL> !fishing | peppe
[22:51] <ubotwo> peppe: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:51] <ThomPhoenix> Greetings.
[22:51] <Linux_Fresher> !all-knowing
[22:51] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[22:51] <Odd-rationale> lol
[22:51] <mttr> Help Any suggestions  to repair damage mp3 ( i have over 70 that need repairs)
[22:51] <Linux_Fresher> :P
[22:51] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: sure, but there will always be somewhere in this channel to help
[22:52] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  kk brb rebooting
[22:52] <LjL> don't abuse the bots
[22:52] <tonyyarusso> mttr: that probably depends on how they broke
[22:52] <fabio_> why a damaged mp3 ?
[22:52] <kaur> mttr, are these the only copies?
[22:52] <Alfarin> hm... synaptic apt thing doesn't work due to ca.archive.ubuntu.com being down...
[22:52] <lensy> LjL: isnt that what the bots are there for :P
[22:52] <Linux_Fresher> LjL  lol ya sorry mate but i really couldnt resist !!
[22:52]  * Alfarin goes to try to tap it to use us.archive instead...
[22:52] <LjL> no
[22:52] <lensy> LjL: j/k :p
[22:52] <myth-newb> I am having performance issues with my onboard x1250 card. shearing during hd playback and stuttering for the frist few seconds of a large vob. Is the card just weedy or is it lack of linux support for this card
[22:52] <Linux_Fresher> btw uboto's pms were broken yesterday , dont know if its fixed now
[22:53] <mttr> i have made copies of the damage one.. but that is all i have.. would prefer not to have to re-encode them
[22:53] <NW2190> Hey, can you make a bash script that sshfs mounts a folder from another computer?
[22:53] <ThomPhoenix> I just used bm43-fwcutter to get the broadcom firmware, but how do I actually enable my wireless device now?
[22:53] <NW2190> I tried and it doesn't seem to work...
[22:53] <kaur> mttr, ok
[22:53] <LjL> Linux_Fresher: the bot itself is broken, that's why we have ubotwo
[22:53] <mttr> does audacity have a batch fuction
[22:53] <hischild_> LjL, what is/was wrong with it then?
[22:54] <LjL> hischild_, we don't know.
[22:54] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  brb rebooting
[22:54] <mttr> i've used audacity to test one import than export.. that does seem to work. however unless there is a batch mode it would take a while
[22:54] <ThaRabbit> mttr: you can try to load the mp3s with audacity and see if that can resave the file for you?
[22:54] <ThaRabbit> mttr: ah, ok... lol, timing
[22:54] <lensy> moreati: are you free yet? and if not do you know where v3ctor has vanished to??
[22:55] <zcat[1]> ubotu has been broken for a couple days now? Nobody around here can fix an irc bot?!!
[22:55] <qcjn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59076/
[22:55] <hischild_> LjL, suppose there's not really something that i can do for it?
[22:55] <ThomPhoenix> Where do I got for wireless support? This seems to be more of a chat channel.
[22:55] <mttr> is there a batch mode function in Audacity ?
[22:55] <moreati> lensy: not yet
[22:55] <lensy> moreati: fine ok
[22:55] <ThaRabbit> ThomPhoenix: this is support :) whatś the problem
[22:55] <kaur> ThomPhoenix, what is wrong with wireless?
[22:55] <lensy> moreati: do you know where v3ctor as gone?? He just wont speak to me for some reason, i think hes just gone afk
[22:55] <hubuntu> It's a chat channel for support ;)
[22:56] <moreati> no idea
[22:56] <mttr> i can't seem to find much info on batch process for Audacity ?
[22:56] <lensy> moreati: ok th nyway
[22:56] <qcjn> DIL_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59076/
[22:56] <ThomPhoenix> I have a broadcom device and needed to use the b43-fwcutter program to extract the firmware. It's now in my /firmware/ folder, but I need to use it. I think my wireless device hasn't been enabled yet.
[22:56] <zcat[1]> anyone know where I can find a font that looks like an old VT100 terminal ?
[22:56] <legend2440> DrZaius55: #ubuntu-kernel channel would probably be best place to ask
[22:57] <ThaRabbit> mttr:http://www.audacityteam.org/manual/index.php?title=Batch_Processing
[22:57] <LjL> hischild_, ubotwo will do for the time being.
[22:57] <ThomPhoenix> There is a wireless-enable radiobutton on my laptop and it works under Windows, but not on Ubuntu.
[22:57] <mttr> zcat how about 500 free fonts somewere on the enternet
[22:57] <zcat[1]> isung karmasutra atm but it's too smooth..
[22:57] <mttr> internet
[22:57] <xb3rt> how do i tell if i have ubuntu fiesty or edgy
[22:57] <kaur> I'd like to hear your opinions on that; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155142 What could be causing the problem?
[22:57] <ubotwo> Launchpad bug 155142 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Noisy hard disk Gutsy (configuring grub is not enough)" [Undecided,Won't fix]
[22:57] <prince_jammys> xb3rt: type: lsb_release -a
[22:58] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: does the wireless device show in lspci?
[22:58] <mttr> Hey thanks a bunch ThaRabbit
[22:58] <ThaRabbit> mttr: :) hope it helps bud
[22:58] <Thingus> Xubuntu Gutsy isn't detecting my laptop battery
[22:58] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: It shows a broadcom device there, yes.
[22:58] <lensy> my server wont do vnc, samba, webmin or ssh. ANyone got any ideas???
[22:59] <mttr> hope so to.. i will give that a try..
[22:59] <hischild_> LjL, should i be able to help with something dont hesitate to ask  ....
[22:59] <tonyyarusso> lensy: by "won't do", won't start the services or won't allow traffic on their ports?
[22:59] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: does ifconfig show a wlan0 ?
[23:00] <lensy> tonryarusso: i mean no traffic flows on the ports, i had firestarter installed but i got rid of it and flushed IP tables but still nothing is working...
[23:00] <xb3rt> i downloaded a new splash theme, where do i put it
[23:00] <lensy> tornyarusso: if i try and access my website i just get a 502 bad gateway error... :'(
[23:00] <tonyyarusso> !splash | xb3rt
[23:00] <ubotwo> xb3rt: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[23:00] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Well, this is the actual output. Just one line about broadcom. I'm not sure if that is my wireless or the wired though: http://rafb.net/p/ymdpxu26.nln.html
[23:00] <kupo> I'm still looking for someone who can help me troubleshoot why I can't get connectivity on startup
[23:00] <sega01> hey
[23:00] <bradley__> aww gregbrady left
[23:01] <Steve^> If my laptop has 1 gig of RAM, should I be worried that  free  shows just 882MB?
[23:01] <lensy> tornyarusso: if i try and access my website i just get a 502 bad gateway error... :'(
[23:01] <kupo> anyone in here use WPA wirless with 7.10?
[23:01] <lensy> yes
[23:01] <lensy> me
[23:01] <zcat[1]> kupo: yes
[23:01] <lensy> i use WPA with ubuntu 7.10
[23:01] <kupo> lensy: does yours work on startup fine? what driver are you using?
[23:01] <sega01> does anyone know how to modify sudoers so that users must enter root's password to gain full access?
[23:01] <tonyyarusso> lensy: Actually, the flushing of the table probably made it worse, since the default is block all inbound.
[23:01] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: I think that output was just my wired. ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo.
[23:01] <kupo> zcat[1]: same question to you
[23:01] <lensy> kupo: mine has just worked out of the box
[23:02] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: that is an ethernet device though, indeed a wired device
[23:02] <sega01> Steve^, ram may be allocated for shared video memory
[23:02] <DASPRiD> where is the swap partition with LVM configured?
[23:02] <lensy> tonyarusso: then do you have any ideas before i shoot myself with frustration of something :'(
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> kupo: fine out of the box here too, Intel 2915 abg with the ipw2200 driver.
[23:02] <kupo> tonyyarusso: you need set up root account
[23:02] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Normally I press a button to enable my wireless device, to give it power, but that button doesn't work on Ubuntu, it seems.
[23:02] <Steve^> sega01, is there anyway to check that?
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> lensy: read a good iptables guide and re-open the appropriate ports.
[23:02] <xb3rt> ubotwo: im in the configuration editor, but cant find anything about splash
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> kupo: No you don't.
[23:02] <kupo> zcat[1]: lensy thanks anyway guys
[23:02] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: ah :) the buttong probably does work, ubuntu just doesn't hav ethe driver
[23:02] <sega01> Steve^, bios would be your best bet
[23:02] <lensy> kupe: no probs..
[23:03] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: which card was it again?
[23:03] <kupo> tonyyarusso ok
[23:03] <lensy> tonyarusso: i dont have time, would i be better just installing ubuntu again?
[23:03] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: and I take it this is a laptop?
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> xb3rt: ubotwo is a bot.
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> xb3rt: Dont' try to talk to it :)
[23:03] <Steve^> sega01, oh, so it's OS independent. Thanks.    I also notice I have 0 swap, I would need to associate a partition for that?
[23:03] <xb3rt> lol
[23:03] <Dr_Willis>  ubotwo is a bot 2.0!
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[23:04] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: The driver is in the Linux kernel Ubuntu uses (I use Hardy), and I manually extracted the necessary proprietary broadcom firmware. The only issue I have is how to enable the device under Ubuntu.
[23:04] <xb3rt> Odd-rationale: at least he talks back
[23:04] <lensy> tonyarusso: im just going to go for it and re-install
[23:04] <xb3rt> :-)
[23:04] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  Started installation program .. reached step 4 --> choosing 3rd option MANUAL ---> details of my HD on next line
[23:04] <tonyyarusso> lensy: if you don't have much data to worry about, or can easily restore, sure.  Wish I knew offhand.
[23:04] <lensy> tonryarusso: can u help me with something else before i do?
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> xb3rt: What kind of splash is this? usplash or login splash?
[23:04] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  could we please private chat ? i have resized this chat window and its kinda scrolling too fast
[23:04] <jrib> Linux_Fresher: you can join me in #ubuntu-classroom if you want
[23:04] <xb3rt> Odd-rationale: usplash, but i plan on changing both
[23:05] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  that would be great .. tx
[23:05] <Odd-rationale> xb3rt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[23:05] <days_of_ruin> white screen compiz
[23:06] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: any clues?
[23:06] <sega01> Steve^, no. i usually prefer to run without a swap
[23:06] <sega01> 1GB of ram is a lot, and i don't use a swap file on my 128MB ram machines
[23:06] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: checking, which card is it again :) ?
[23:06] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: broadcom wireless chip?
[23:07] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Yes. b43
[23:07] <Chipsa964> what do i do if my restart and shutdown buttons arent there when i click logout?
[23:08] <myth-newb> does anyone here have an antec fusion vfd working under myth?
[23:08] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: did you run an update after the installation?
[23:08] <sega01> i'm out, later
[23:08] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: because apparantly, the update feature breaks the included broadcom wireless driver
[23:08] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Yes, I did update.
[23:09] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: If there is a bug report about it, can I have the link?
[23:09] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: see here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709259
[23:09] <Chipsa964> ive been changing my desktop appearances and i guess one of the changes removed those 2 buttons :(
[23:10] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Ouch, that is bad to hear. I hope this gets resolved soon.
[23:10] <Linux_Fresher> Q: 80 GB SATA hd .. this contains windows xp and programs etc .. around 69500 mb is used .. the HD does not have partitions [ only one partition of full 80 gbs and is NTFS formatted ] .. i know i have to resize the partition and release 5 gb for Ubuntu, but the issue is little different .. remeber the figure 69500 MB USED space NOW, -->
[23:10] <Linux_Fresher> First problem -->  the 'Format ?' column has the clickable box which is NON-Clickable .. is it a bug ?
[23:10] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: like the last poster in that topic suggests, manually reinstalling might solve the issue
[23:11] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: he seems to have gotten things working
[23:11] <Seeker`> how do you list packages that have been removed and have left stuff on the system?
[23:11] <Seeker`> I know it involves dpkg, but cant remember what exactly
[23:11] <AR1FA4_Uk> help
[23:11] <Smuggle> [Seeker`]: try dpkg --reconfigure a
[23:11] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: I will try. Although, I did a fresh install from the March 8 live cd. Would the issue be in there too?
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> Seeker`: apt-get auto-remove ?
[23:12] <jrib> Seeker`: dpkg -l | grep '^rc'
[23:12] <moreati> lensy, i'm back. Have you rebooted that server?
[23:13] <Smuggle> [Seeker`]: nevermind.. i said bullshit.. sorry
[23:13] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: unsure, I have not used 8.04 yet :)
[23:13] <AR1FA4_Uk> can anyone help me get my usb wifi working
[23:13] <genius> anyone use xrandr?
[23:13] <sFEARs> what the problem AR1FA4_Uk
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> genius: i do
[23:13] <Seeker`> jrib: Thanks
[23:13] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Well, I will keep trying. Thanks :)
[23:14] <genius> Odd-rationale: can we talk private?
[23:14] <kupo> AR1FA4_Uk: first figure out which chipset it using
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> genius: Sure.
[23:14] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: try the manual reinstallation of the packages, as the topic suggests :) if that doesn't work - good luck finding an answer
[23:14] <sFEARs> what kind of USB card are you using AR1FA4_Uk
[23:14] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: Indeed.
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> genius: Are you registered?
[23:14] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: or wait till april when 8.04 goes final :)
[23:14] <genius> Odd-rationale: please start chat with me
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> !register | genius
[23:15] <ubotwo> genius: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[23:15] <AR1FA4_Uk> belkin usb
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> genius: nvm just /join #Odd-rationale
[23:15] <ThomPhoenix> ThaRabbit: If Ubuntu has troubles activating my broadcom device, it will still have that issue in april, unless I prod about it ;)
[23:15] <AR1FA4_Uk> chipset is ralink
[23:15] <kupo> AR1FA4_Uk: you need to find out the chipset
[23:15] <sFEARs> at grub bootup i have an option to boot into recovery mode.. which logs into root without a password.. which kind of defeats the purpose of all the password security.. anyone have any tips for me on this little thing
[23:15] <kupo> AR1FA4_Uk: gotcha
[23:16] <ThaRabbit> TomPhoenix: well the topic suggests the update manager breaks the driver, it's a known bug which will hopefully get sorted :)
[23:16] <bluefox83> i compiled the latest alsa from source (1.0.16) and now i am having trouble getting ubuntu to use the newer alsa...any way to fix that?
[23:16] <IndyGunFreak> sFEARs: no it doesn't
[23:16] <jester7> anybody know how to change preferred wireless networks order in network-manager?
[23:16] <sFEARs> it doesn't?
[23:16] <IndyGunFreak> no, it just logs you n to a CLI, if you want root access, you still have to use sudo\
[23:16] <hischild_> sFEARs, lock the boot manager and remove the recovery? however be warned: you can't get back in then if you screw it up
[23:16] <xb3rt> whats the tar isntall command for a .gz
[23:16] <kupo> AR1FA4_Uk:  http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Belkin
[23:17] <AR1FA4_Uk> thx ill go look at that
[23:17] <dude_> hi all
[23:17] <crxyem> I just upgraded from 6.10 > 7.04 > 7.10, everything seems to be running just fine other than high processor loads
[23:17] <ThaRabbit> xb3rt: tar -zxvf extracts a file.tar.gz
[23:17] <IndyGunFreak> hmm wait, maybe it does
[23:17] <kupo> AR1FA4_Uk: that list will tell you which driver to use
[23:17] <dude_> I'm new to irc, can someone tell me how to join a specific channel?
[23:17] <IndyGunFreak> that does seem rather stupid.
[23:17] <xb3rt> ThaRabbit: thank you
[23:18] <Starnestommy> dude_: /join #channel
[23:18] <Woody_> #channel
[23:18] <dude_> does it matter what server I'm on?
[23:18] <Starnestommy> dude_: somewhat.
[23:18] <Starnestommy> which network matters more.
[23:18] <dude_> i'm trying to join the wikichan chan
[23:19] <crxyem> any ideas on how to figure out what the offending process is ??
[23:19] <dude_> but i think i'm doing something wrong
[23:19] <Starnestommy> dude_: I don't think it's on freenode... do you know which server it's on?
[23:19] <ryanakca> dude_: do you know what server the channel is on?
[23:19] <ThaRabbit> dude_: irc basics - http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[23:19] <dude_> no idea
[23:20] <dude_> lemmie check see if I find it
[23:20] <ThaRabbit> it's on rizon.net
[23:20] <erUSUL> crxyem: run "top"
[23:20] <dude_> it says irc.rizon.net
[23:20] <dude_> exactly its
[23:20] <Thingus> Does anyone know why Xubuntu Gutsy would stop detecting my laptop battery?
[23:20] <IndyGunFreak> sFEARs: i guess if you're that concerned about it.., you could remove the recovery mode from your bootup list, just make sure you have a live CD handy so if something goes wrong, you can mount your menu list and add it back in if needed
[23:20] <dude_> irc:
[23:20] <IndyGunFreak> and don't actually (*remove* it, just comment it out
[23:20] <dude_> irc://irc.rizon.net/wikichan
[23:21] <Starnestommy> dude_: /server irc.rizon.net then /join #wikichan
[23:21] <ThaRabbit> dude_: start an irc client... do /server irc.rizon.net and then /j #wikichan
[23:21] <IndyGunFreak> dude_: you need to join the rizon server, then the channel
[23:21] <dude_> ohhh ok
[23:21] <ThaRabbit> +1 for starnestommy
[23:21] <dude_> thanks you guys, very helpful!
[23:22] <crxyem> erUSUL I've done that already, but it seems like normal processes, Xorg, superkaramba, etc.... nothing out of the ordinary
[23:22] <CTho> I want to bind alt+shift+tab to previous window, but compizconfig settings manager won't let me
[23:22] <CTho> how do i figure out why?
[23:23] <darx> never mind i set it to -5
[23:23] <lynucs> hello, how ubuntu does configure automatically the asoundrc for a soundcard? which tool/script?
[23:23] <ThaRabbit> previous app window or previous desktop?
[23:24] <dan__> Alright
[23:24] <dan__> Now I got addicted to Linux , It's time to move onto some .py programming
[23:24] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[23:24] <snypzz> anyone out there setup the cube
[23:25] <AR1FA4_Uk> ok i have found the driver which is rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz im new to linux and unlike exe it dosent execute itself, help?
[23:25] <dan__> You need drivers for it
[23:25] <dan__> Kubuntu is the lightweight version
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Do you have compizconfig-setting-manager?
[23:25] <ryanakca> !compile | AR1FA4_Uk
[23:25] <ubotwo> AR1FA4_Uk: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:25] <dan__> It's missing many features
[23:25] <snypzz> yes
[23:25] <dan__> you should install the full version
[23:25] <RedHeron> Okay... just got a video cam, uses the ov519 chip. Got the source code for the chip so I could maybe compile it. Problem is... I don't program, so what do I *DO* with it to get my video camera working? It's not set up to be its own program.
[23:25] <AR1FA4_Uk> ok thx
[23:25] <xb3rt> Where do i place a usplash-theme.so to get it to work
[23:25] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Have you enabled the cube and rotate cube plugins?
[23:25] <Bruno_> hello
[23:25] <ryanakca> dan__: no, Kubuntu uses KDE, which is completely different from GNOME
[23:26] <dan__> ryan , your right
[23:26] <RedHeron> source code for the chip's *drivers* not the chip itself, I meant.
[23:26] <snypzz> I think I installed the full version
[23:26] <Bruno_> i have a strange problem with my ipod touch and router, can anyone help?
[23:26] <CTho> Odd-rationale: is there an easy way to get the ubuntu source package with patches included for things?
[23:26] <ryanakca> snypzz: you installed Ubuntu, and you want to enable the effects?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> ryanakca,  you did try the other commands it suggests? what sort of DVD drive is this?  does other linux live cd's see the device?
[23:26] <snypzz> did that...
[23:26] <BlueElmo> xb3rt: I use startupmanager (in the repos)
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: What do you get with that?
[23:27] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: you have to compile the driver and load it into the kernell
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> CTho: Don't know. Sorry.
[23:27] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: you may find this usefull - http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Main_Page
[23:27] <ryanakca> snypzz: then go to System -> Preferences -> Desktop effects   or something simillar. Rightmost menu on the top taskbar iirc
[23:27] <snypzz> need to display the screen
[23:27] <ryanakca> !effects | snypzz
[23:27] <ubotwo> snypzz: Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[23:28] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: That's where I got the drivers... I don't know what the next step is.
[23:28] <ryanakca> snypzz: sorry, wrong factoid
[23:28] <CTho> ah, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-580116.html solved my problem
[23:28] <snypzz> need to display the cube on my desktop
[23:28] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: the main page has a link to "installation instructions"
[23:28]  * RedHeron can't wrap brain around that.
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Open comiz-config-settings-manager
[23:29] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: Yes, I tried them with similar results. It is a  "Lightscribe DVD +/- Writer / CD Writer". If that's not enough, I can pop open the case and look inside
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Tell me when you have it open
[23:29] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: I thought I did it right, but apparently I didn't, because it's still not working.
[23:29]  * ut2004player5863 yawns
[23:29] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: should I pastebin the output from the other commands?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> ryanakca,  is it IDE or SATA - is a good thing to lknow.
[23:29] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: you followed the installation instructions :) ?
[23:29] <ut2004player5863> \kill ghost command
[23:29] <ut2004player5863> =(
[23:30] <snypzz> ok open
Tab   instead of   Shift+Alt+Tab
[23:30] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Yes.
[23:30] <RedHeron> rmmod, etc.
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Click the ckeck boxes next to the "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube" plugins
[23:30] <Thingus> Can any help me find out why my battery isn't being detected?
[23:30] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: and have you tried to use the ubuntu repository version?
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: done?
[23:31]  * STOP_STEALING_MY somthing
[23:31] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: That's the first version I tried.
[23:31] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: IDE
[23:31] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: which didn't work either I take it
[23:31] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Nope. :-(
[23:31]  * RedHeron is determined, though... :-9
[23:31] <STOP_STEALING_MY> moreati: whats the command to kill ghost?
[23:31] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: is the webcam connected to your pc now?
[23:31] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: last time it worked was about 4 weeks ago (well, last time I checked)
[23:32] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: No, not at the moment.
[23:32] <ryanakca> STOP_STEALING_MY: for your irc nick?
[23:32] <Starnestommy> STOP_STEALING_MY: /msg nickserv help ghost
[23:32] <snypzz> ok
[23:32] <moreati> STOP_STEALING_MY: huh, why me? What is ghost?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> ryanakca,  could be some issue with the libata changes, thats making the device show up as a  scsi drive now, or other confuseion. what is the actual device of the dvd? can you read/mount it normally?
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Now click on "General Options"
[23:32] <snypzz> now how do I
[23:32] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: could you hook it up and try the lspci command in a terminal.. see if it lists your camera
[23:32] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Thanks, I'll try that now.
[23:33] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: don't know, should be /dev/hd<something> ?
[23:33] <snypzz> ok listening...
[23:33] <Thingus> Do I have to use profanity to get a bit of help, here?
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Under the Desktop Size tab set the H=4 V=1 and #desktop=1
[23:33] <Woody_> c
[23:33] <STOP_STEALING_MY> i am ut2004player.....
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> ryanakca,  could be  hd## or it may be sd##
[23:33] <moreati> STOP_STEALING_MY: sorry nover dealt with 'ghost'
[23:34]  * moreati wonders how I typed and o instead of e
[23:34] <STOP_STEALING_MY> can someone kick ut2004player.... -_- because thats me
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Got that?
[23:34] <snypzz> ok
[23:34] <Starnestommy> STOP_STEALING_MY: /msg nickserv ghost ut2004player password
[23:34] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: shit, sorry... use the lsusb command, not lspci
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Now go to System --> Preferences --> Appearance and under the Visual Effects tab select Custom
[23:34] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: It doesn't even list all of what's working... just the roots, etc.
[23:34] <bluefox83> whats the latest available version of alsa for gutsy? latest i can find is 1.0.14
[23:34] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Ah, okay, thanks.
[23:35] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Yes, it's listed.
[23:35] <moreati> welcome back
[23:35] <ThaRabbit> ok, now try dmesg | grep video
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: BTW, you might want to prefix the nick of the person you are talking to at the front of your message. Like I do. Hint: Use <tab>, e.g. Odd<tab>
[23:35] <Trevor224> hey hey :) can someone help me with installing zimbra on 7.10?
[23:36] <ut2004player> finally
[23:36] <ryanakca> Dr_Willis: I have /dev/ sda,   sda1  sda2  sda5  sdb   sdb1  sdb2  sdb5  sdc   sdd    sde    sdf. sda,sdb seem to be my two harddrives (guessing by the numbers). sdc through to sdf complain about "mount: No medium found"
[23:36] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Returned to command line.
[23:36] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: No result.
[23:36] <ut2004player> TY Starnestommy
[23:36] <bluefox83> !alsa
[23:36] <ubotwo> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:36] <kestir> can someone tell me why I've been bothering with the horrible solution of dual booting when the perfectly amazing solution vmware has been right in front of me for so long?
[23:37] <jengle> hi everyone
[23:37] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: hmm... then try dmesg | grep cam
[23:37] <jengle> can someone explain dmesg's '-n' flag?
[23:37] <v3ctor> kestir: we like to make you suffer
[23:37] <LjL> kestir: because you wanted to play games...?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> ryanakca,  all the usb and media card readers may also be shown also. check 'dmesg' output.  - could see what ls -l /dev/cdrom shows also
[23:37] <kestir> LjL: that's it mostly...
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Is it working?
[23:37] <ryanakca> jengle: 'man dmesg'
[23:37] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Same: 0 result
[23:37] <jengle> ryanakca: no shit.
[23:37] <kestir> ryanakca: wrong answer
[23:37] <Trevor224> is there anyone who can help me with installing zimbra on 7.10?
[23:37] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Wow, it's not there!
[23:38] <ryanakca> jengle: well, its 4 lines. I could pastebinit for you though :)
[23:38] <LjL> language jengle
[23:38] <kestir> ryanakca: he didn't ask for the contents of dmesg's man page
[23:38] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: apparantly... allright, now try cat /prc/bus/usb/drivers
[23:38] <jengle> ryanakca: obviously i know that there's a -n flag because i already read the man page. the problem is i don't understand what it means.
[23:38] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: looking for system
[23:39] <Woody_> Anyone know a good tutorial for Samba? I want to eventually share directories to users on a small network for backing up purposes but don't want them to see the other users directories.
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: At the gnome menu bar. next to applications and places
[23:39] <LjL> jengle, when a program asks syslog to log a message, it gives it a priority
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> Trevor224: what is zimbra?
[23:39] <Woody_> or more to the point, each others directories
[23:39] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Empty directory.
[23:39] <Trevor224> indy- its an email server
[23:39] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: :( ok
[23:39] <geoff> fglrxinfo always reports MESA as the driver wen my xorg.conf has "fglrx" as the driver in the device section im confused...
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> Woody_,  install the 'samba-doc' package and read the 2+ books it includes. :)
[23:40] <IndyGunFreak> Trevor224: if you're gonna use my name, use my full name, or its kinda pointless cuz i won't see what you say
[23:40]  * RedHeron tries a recompile from root.... will tackle permissions after.
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> Woody_,  what you want to do - is rather easy to setup.
[23:40] <ThaRabbit> sudo updatedb, when that finishes do sudo locate ov51x
[23:40] <RedHeron> locate ov5
[23:40] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Already did. :-)
[23:40] <IndyGunFreak> Trevor224: did you download it?
[23:40] <Woody_> So I keep hearing I have the connectivity set up OK but not the security
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Found it now?
[23:41] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: still looking
[23:41] <Trevor224> IndyGunFreak yea, its downloaded, i read something saying i need to change the version number in a file to version 6 since it apparently doesnt install on 7.10.. i have it downloaded though
[23:41] <Chipsa964> what do i do if my restart and shutdown buttons arent there when i click logout?
[23:41] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: try to modprobe ov51x-jpeg
[23:41] <Chipsa964> ive been changing my desktop appearances and i guess one of the changes removed those 2 buttons :(
[23:41] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: and then do dmesg to see the result
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Don't look in the ccsm. Look at the menu bar on the top panel
[23:42] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Fatal, not found
[23:42] <IndyGunFreak> Trevor224: weird, i have no idea.. doesn't make much sense, maybe look for an option thats in the repositories
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: The same panel as your system clock.
[23:42] <Linux_Fresher> jrib:  one last Q in classroom channel before i hit Next !!
[23:43] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: ohh ok..
[23:43] <Woody_> Dr_Willis, Anything is easy if you know how.  :)
[23:43] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: something went wrong with the driver compilation then :) remove it all and redo the compilation?
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: :)
[23:43] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: That's what I'm trying.
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Woody_,  i learned all i know about samba from reading those books.
[23:43] <Trevor224> IndyGunFreak not quite sure what that is, i think i will just end up going back to version 6.06 and try that.. thanks for trying
[23:43] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: I shall say no more and let you get to it then XD
[23:43] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: get out of compiz...
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Woody_,  figureing out exactly what you want to do is half the battle. :P
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: What do you mean?
[23:44] <demosh> anyone have a solution to nautilus showing "dot" files/folders on samba shares?
[23:44] <nery> hola necesito ayuda con mi laptop
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> demosh,  i noticed that on ONE share.. but not on anothe rshare.
[23:44] <Woody_> Dr_Willis  I'll take a look as some more docs, searching for that now. thx
[23:44] <LjL> !es | nery
[23:44] <ubotwo> nery: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if its a samba setting.
[23:44] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: system what...?
[23:44] <nery> sorry
[23:44] <machtyn> anyone here able to give me a hand on getting a dial up modem to work?
[23:44] <kestir> where are gnome-terminal themes kept/stored?
[23:44] <demosh> Dr_Willis: now that you mention it, i only have that on one share too
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: System --> Preferences --> Appearance and under the Visual Effects tab select Custom
[23:44] <demosh> quite annoying
[23:45] <mjbraun> Why would I have a device visible under /proc/scsi/scsi but not visible under dev? At startup it gets created as /dev/sg4 but isn't there anymore.
[23:45] <LjL> !dialup | machtyn
[23:45] <ubotwo> machtyn: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[23:45] <icesword> hi
[23:45] <icesword> !8.04
[23:45] <ubotwo> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:46] <Woody_> Dr_Willis it might very well be a user/group issue
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> demosh,  :)   I havent looked into it much. I just noticed it yesterday.
[23:46] <Woody_> Dr_Willis I'm looking into that as well
[23:46] <demosh> i wonder if it has to do with permissions
[23:47] <kestir> where are gnome-terminal themes kept/stored?
[23:47] <demosh> on the share its happening to me on, hitting "ctrl+h" (show/hide hidden files) in nautilus reveals more dot files
[23:47] <LoSt-MiNd> ago.il.us.chatnet.org
[23:47] <demosh> but certain dot files stay visible regardless
[23:47] <LoSt-MiNd> errr
[23:47] <LoSt-MiNd> sorry
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Working?
[23:47] <LoSt-MiNd> i didn'trealize i joined a channel
[23:48] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: not yet...
[23:48] <bradley__> can anyone help me get this installed ??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: What happens when you select the custom radio button?
[23:48] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: bzip2 is non-functional
[23:48] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: That was probably the issue.
[23:49] <bradley__> can anyone help me get this installed ??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:49] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Reinstalling it and the packages.
[23:49] <demosh> Dr_Willis: mind checking if on the share you have that happening to, ctrl+h reveals more dot files or hides part of them?
[23:49] <UnknownUniverse> How do I rename *.something to *.something
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> UnknownUniverse: mv file file
[23:50] <Aval0n> hey guys can someone a little more savy help me figure out whey this is breaking?
[23:50] <Aval0n> http://pastebin.org/23014
[23:50] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: ok select what in custom
[23:50] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/ . IDE CD/DVD drive. Running the two commands suggested in the pastebin produce similar results.
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> UnknownUniverse: e.g. mv myfile.txt yourfile.txt
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Select the Custom Radio button
[23:51] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: ok :)
[23:51] <UnknownUniverse> Odd-rationale: script ofc
[23:51] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: doing some webcam work of my own here, so I might be a little slow on the reply
[23:51] <UnknownUniverse> Odd-rationale: for f in *.foo; do mv "$f" "${f%.foo}.bar"; done
[23:52] <kestir> where are gnome-terminal themes kept/stored?
[23:52] <beautifulsnow> *FACEPALM* how do i mount a hdd so that regular users can write to it?
[23:52] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: Not an issue.
[23:52] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: selected custom
[23:52] <RedHeron> beautifulsnow: define "regular"?
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Working?
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: I mean the cube?
[23:53] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: then I get Customize theme
[23:53] <beautifulsnow> RedHeron:  hehe, *ponders* my normal user, the one I log in with to gnome
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Are you on the Visual Effects tab?
[23:53] <johan> hi
[23:53] <johan> im kinda having trouble with compiz
[23:53] <johan> sry if im interrupting anyone else who need help
[23:54] <bradley__> can anyone help me get whats one this page installed can anyone help me get this installed ??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:54] <bradley__> ???
[23:54] <Alan_M> johan, we use tab completion so we can help numerous people at the same time :)
[23:54] <Alan_M> your not interruptiong anybody.
[23:54] <pumpitup> by editiing my sources list and switching gutsy for hardy is this a safe way to dist-upgrade
[23:54] <beautifulsnow> johan:  its okay, dont be afraid to ask your question, be as detailed as you can, and wait for someone to be able to help you ^_^
[23:54] <jrib> pumpitup: no
[23:54] <capiCrimm> does anyone know a simple program or way to generate simple sound waves?
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Got it now?
[23:54] <zcat[1]> beautifulsnow: for native filesystems, you mount it, then you set ownership and/or permissions on the directories within it.
[23:54] <jrib> capiCrimm: audacity I believe
[23:54] <johan> what is that? :S (kinda new to irc and linux) so im kinda confused..been a long time windows user ;)
[23:54] <Aval0n> anyone know the ffmpeg-dev package name?
[23:54] <pumpitup> jrib> is there some docs on how to then ?
[23:55] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: ok set
[23:55] <Aval0n> apt-get doesn't like ffmpeg-dev
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Is cube working now?
[23:55] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: now how do I see it
[23:55] <jrib> pumpitup: you understand hardy is still being developed?
[23:55] <johan> so if i ask my question...is it just to wait? ^
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> demosh,  it seems to change the #. but not sure what its hiding/showing. its always showing the .DIRECTORIES it seems
[23:55] <beautifulsnow> yes johan, whoever can help you will help you
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: ctrl+alt+left/right arrow or ctrl+alt+left-mousebutton-press and hold
[23:55] <johan> and hi everyone..im new here :P
[23:56] <bradley__> johan: its kinda like a help channel
[23:56] <pumpitup> jrib> yeah well .. i guess ill keep gutsy but will i be able to run kde4 with gutsy
[23:56] <ThaRabbit> johan: what is the problem
[23:56] <beautifulsnow> welcome to Ubuntu johan ^_^
[23:56] <ryanakca> johan: yep, ask your question and we'll help you out :)
[23:56] <Aval0n> or they'll completely ignore it
[23:56] <Aval0n> :)
[23:56] <bradley__> yeah like they have mine
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> demosh,  seems its only hiding the .files, not the .dirs
[23:56] <bradley__> !!!
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> !patience
[23:56] <ubotwo> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:57] <jrib> pumpitup: I believe so.  #kubuntu can probably tell you more
[23:57] <LjL> !kde4 | pumpitup
[23:57] <ubotwo> pumpitup: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:57] <ThaRabbit> feel free to ask your question johan ;)
[23:57] <pumpitup> :)
[23:57] <johan> Well...i've got a few problems..started with ubuntu a couple of hours ago...got kinda lured into it by watching numerous youtube videos...i wanted the cube to work, changing the theme aint working either
[23:57] <zcat[1]> I have a presentation on 'how the internet works. I have two days to prepare...
[23:57] <miko3k> hi ... could you tell me how to create /dev/fb* files, please ...
[23:57] <jrib> Aval0n: you probably want libavcodec-dev
[23:57] <johan> if its any help im using a intel gma 950 card
[23:57] <Odd-rationale> zcat[1]: Good luck
[23:57] <zcat[1]> this should be interesting
[23:57] <johan> @ avalon..did you play jk2 years ago? :P
[23:57] <RedHeron> ThaRabbit: No v4l installed... dependencies, people!
[23:57] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: working
[23:57] <Aval0n> jrib I have installed
[23:58] <ArthurArchnix> Aval0n: apt-cache search ffmpeg
[23:58] <Aval0n> jk2?
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: Good for you!
[23:58] <johan> ohh..i guess you didnt :P
[23:58] <Aval0n> Aragorn94: thanks
[23:58] <ThaRabbit> RedHeron: isn't linux lovely :D
[23:58] <Aval0n> what is it
[23:58] <johan> jedi knight 2 ^
[23:58] <Aval0n> heheh
[23:58] <Aval0n> oh
[23:58] <Aval0n> lol no
[23:58] <zcat[1]> ROFL.. trying to decide how deep I should get into address allocation and routing.. I think 'not very deep' should be best
[23:58] <johan> played with a guy with the same nick
[23:58] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: poping from screen to screen
[23:58] <ThaRabbit> johan: you have compiz enabled?
[23:58] <johan> well..did anyone read my problem :P
[23:58] <bradley__> can anyone help me get the driver talked about on this site installed can anyone help me get this installed ??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ?????????????????///
[23:58] <Aragorn94> AvalOn: for wut??
[23:58] <jrib> Aval0n: so what are you trying to do?
[23:58] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: poping from screen to screen
[23:58] <DASPRiD> where is the swap partition in /dev/mapper/ defined?
[23:58] <drc> zcat[1]:  Two word presentation:  Deep Voodoo :)
[23:59] <LjL> bradley__, that page talks about many drivers, how am i supposed to know which one you want installed?
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: What do you mean?
[23:59] <ArthurArchnix> bradley__: Pre-requisite... make sure you have radeon video card.
[23:59] <johan> well...ive tryed the "sudo compiz" thing...but when i do that it kinda flips out and the desktop gets all weird its like the "explorer.exe" stops working
[23:59] <bradley__> LjL: sorry i am running an ATI Radeon card with Ubuntu 7.19
[23:59] <LjL> ArthurArchnix: why?
[23:59] <bradley__> *7.10
[23:59] <snypzz> Odd--rationale: trying to view the cube on my desktop
[23:59] <zcat[1]> Yeah.. unfortunately that's how most users see it.. I'd like to explan some of the magic because it's quite cool how it all works
[23:59] <DASPRiD> johan, explorer.exe?
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> snypzz: did you try ctrl+alt+click-and-hold-left-mouse-button ?
[23:59] <bradley__> ArthurArchnix: i do
[23:59] <beautifulsnow> johan:  there are a few things that you have to do to make compiz be all pretty... here, let me find a nice guide for you :)
[23:59] <LjL> bradley__: have you tried simply using the Restricted Manager?