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samuelso, my sound chipset is somehow frozen00:00
ere4sisamuel, only other thing I can suggest is to type   killall wine   in a terminal and see if the situation improves00:03
samuelwell, that was my first move too :D. I suppose I have to restart my computer. BUe. What an ugly word: RESTART. YOU NEED TO RESTART YOUR COMPUTER TO FINISH THIS INSTALLATION, was the MS Windows famous word. How depressing00:05
ere4sihehe00:10
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naliothwhere are the settings for xfce kept?02:15
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UltraputzSheep?02:33
Ultraputzhaving a problem with audacity freezing on record. strace produces the following:02:35
Ultraputzclone(child_stack=0xb52c84b4,02:35
Ultraputzflags=CLONE_VM|CLONE_FS|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_SIGHAND|CLONE_THREAD|CLONE_SYSVSEM|CLONE_SETTLS|CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID,02:35
Ultraputzparent_tidptr=0xb52c8bd8, {entry_number:6, base_addr:0xb52c8b90,02:35
Ultraputzlimit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,02:35
Ultraputzlimit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1},02:35
Ultraputzchild_tidptr=0xb52c8bd8) = 728702:35
Ultraputzfutex(0x849dce8, FUTEX_WAIT, 0, NULLExpression 'bytesRead = read(02:35
Ultraputzcomponent->fd, component->buffer, len )' failed in02:35
Ultraputz'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 107902:35
UltraputzExpression 'PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'02:35
Ultraputzfailed in 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 161402:35
Ultraputzanyone have any ideas?02:35
entitys02:45
entitys02:45
entitys02:45
Ultraputzpython? :-)02:45
entityno sry, first time use of rsiss :D testing feutures :D02:47
entityfeatures* ?02:47
Ultraputzfeatures. english not your first language?02:48
entitynope :D though i'm trying my best02:49
Ultraputzoh, .se. "mensig tin" is the only swedish i know :-)02:50
entityhmm, somethings not right with that swedish, what where u trying to say?02:51
Ultraputz'bitchy computer'02:51
Ultraputzyou don't happen to be familiar with alsa audio ?02:53
entityhmm 'mesig' = 'dork' and 'computer' = 'dator'02:53
entityalsa audio?02:53
Ultraputzthe audio layer...02:53
Ultraputzi'm having issues with Audacity freezing when i hit record. everything else works02:54
entitynope, never herd of it02:54
entity..Ultraputz, I installed xubuntu for my first time 2 days ago :D02:54
entityso linux is kind of new to me..02:55
entitybrb02:57
Ultraputzwb02:58
entityhmm my theme didn't change in irssi02:59
Ultraputztry xchat ?02:59
entityyeah, didn't like it.. I liked conversation a bit, but i whant to try irssi some more03:00
Ultraputzircii is hard to argue with :-)03:00
entityhehe, like to learn :D03:00
entityhey, u run xubuntu right?03:01
Ultraputzja03:01
entity^^03:01
entityso, i tried to change my resolution to 1280*1024 isted of 1024*768 i got now, but there is no drivers for my crappy intregated graphic-card. but i tried some stuff on a guid. but it didnt change my resolution, only did it look more nice.03:03
entityI dont whant it too look more nice because it take resources from my laptop, can i change this back.. maybe you know what i accidently changed?03:03
Ultraputzwhere / how did you make the change ?03:03
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entitysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:04
Ultraputzx.org.conf or through the gui?03:04
Ultraputzok03:04
Ultraputzdo you have x up right now ?03:04
entityx?03:04
entity<-- newbie03:05
Ultraputzyou have graphical interface up?03:05
entityhmm when i did this i typed that in terminal and a blu guide poped up :D is that what you mean?03:06
Ultraputzi meant do you have graphics and windows up, or are you running from text-based cli ?03:07
entitynope, graphic03:08
Ultraputzok03:09
Ultraputzhave you tried using the display settings under the menu /03:09
Ultraputzto change resolution ?03:09
Ultraputzinstead of reconfigure ?03:10
entityhmm i cant get the higher resolutions, only default and 800*60003:10
entityit works in windows to run in 1280*1024 but there is no drivers in linux for me03:11
Ultraputzwhat is the graphics hardware ?03:11
entityati igp 340m03:12
Ultraputzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29429703:13
entity...reading :D03:15
entitywhat does he mean with this? "i get relatively good speed with glxgears (1600 fps) with new dri installed from snapshot"03:16
entityi know what glxgears is, not dri and snapshot03:16
Ultraputznot sure :-)03:17
Ultraputzi have ancient hardware, and don't do much with accelerated 3d :-)03:17
entitykk03:18
Ultraputzwb03:29
entityw00t03:29
entityahh.. welcome back i guess :D03:29
Ultraputzrichtig03:29
entityi dont really get this with drivers and stuff in xubuntu03:30
Ultraputzthe short version is, there are two problems03:30
entityk03:30
Ultraputzone is that some drivers are not the product of open source development.03:30
entityahkey03:31
Ultraputzso there are supported and unsupported or "restricted" drivers03:31
entitykk03:31
entitywell i dont like it :D03:31
Ultraputzso knowing that such a distinction exists, you need to look in more than one place :-)03:31
entitybut this is a old laptop with a motherboard graphic card so i guess it will never work to get higher resolution03:32
Ultraputzthis is still the general open source bugaboo -- plug and play is the goal, but the reality is, you will learn more about the drivers than you ever wanted to know unless you build a system out of known-supported hardware :-)03:32
Ultraputzit probably will03:32
Ultraputzyou may try the obvious things like dropping back to 16 bit03:32
Ultraputzso it uses less memory03:32
entityi checked 'screen and graphics' options and that kind of interesting, but i dont dare to change too much there03:34
Ultraputztry 'display settings'03:34
entitywell i can only choose default - 800*600 - 640 * 48003:36
Ultraputzdoes it specify its using a generic driver ?03:36
entitywhere can i see that?03:37
Ultraputzerm.03:37
Ultraputzlspci03:37
entityyep generic03:37
Ultraputzthere may be your issue :-)03:37
Ultraputzit's the same as "safe mode" under windows -- generic vga/xga driver.03:37
Ultraputzbbiab03:38
entityaha..03:38
Ultraputz:-03:38
Ultraputz)03:38
entityhmm but if i change and it really dosent work, can I change it back somehow?03:39
entityisn't there a safemode without graphic or something like that?03:40
naliothwhere does xfce keep it's .files ?03:42
entityone more question, how do i know what screen i got on a laptop?03:42
entity~/. (learnd it today)03:42
naliothentity: if you're answering me, i need a bit more info03:43
naliothmost dot files have names03:43
naliothsome have numbers03:43
naliothnone are dots alone03:43
entity /home03:45
entityhmm i'm probably wrong byt the .maps is in /home (hidden)03:46
Ultraputzentity: if it fails, you bring it up in low-level and do you what you did before with dpkg03:46
entitykk.. i changed the settings to a screen similar to my laptop model but when i chose 1280*1024 it still runs in 1024*768.. do i need to reboot or something?03:47
Ultraputztry it :-)03:48
Ultraputzsudo shutdown -r now03:48
entitybrb then :D03:48
naliothi don't have a ~/.maps03:48
entityhmm no luck03:50
Ultraputzdid it come up 1024 x 768 ?03:51
entityyep, and generic03:51
Ultraputzhrm03:51
entitywierd03:51
Ultraputzis it 16 bit depth ?03:51
entitydont knwo03:51
entityknow*03:51
entityi guess it's the drivers fault.. and changing drivers i guess could be a bit risky03:52
Ultraputzwhat's to risk? it's a fresh install and you're learning. start hacking :-003:53
entityhehe.. yeah well :D i guess I'll see you tomorrow then :D hehe03:54
Ultraputzcheers -- good luck !03:54
entitythx for all the help03:55
Azodonjust installed xubuntu-desktop, , after about 5min i got it to look like my gnome setup, But xfce seems faster04:01
Ultraputzit is04:02
Ultraputzgnome is kinda fat04:02
Azodoncompiz and all04:02
Ultraputzthat's all candy, and it costs cpu. that's fine if you've got nothing better to do than eyecandy :-)04:04
Azodongata use tha dual core 64 bit some how :)04:04
Ultraputzi use ancient crap, so xfce is a great solution to keep it simple and light :-)04:06
Azodonlike to see some screens, compared my gnome to xfce ubuntu! ?  http://picasaweb.google.com/medicusc/LinuxScreenshots04:08
Azodongana switch back and forth with them04:08
Azodonubuntu makes it easy04:08
Ultraputzlooking04:10
Ultraputzpretty :-)04:12
Ultraputzbbl04:13
Azodonall from same system,04:13
ThingusDoes anyone know of a good dock bar that works in XFCE?04:45
ThingusAWN always steals focus.04:45
ThingusAnd, the only fix is to patch and compile XFCE04:45
ThingusWhich is too much like work.04:45
KeltQuick question.  In xubuntu how do I configure it so that OGLE automatically loads and plays a dvd when I stick it in?04:53
ThingusGah, I'm running Feisty... Might as well upgrade to Gutsy and see what breaks.04:53
Keltit all works fine.  I just want ogle to automatically start when a dvd is inserted04:54
Ultraputzahoy05:06
Ultraputzthesheep ?05:07
Phrantiki really want xubuntu on a usb flash drive that will save changes and files... does anyone know of a good tutorial or a place to buy one?05:08
Ultraputzlook at the DSL Linux pages, "linux on a stick" etc.05:09
UltraputzDSL = "damned small linux"05:09
Phrantikthanx ultraputz... i'm kinda attached to the ubuntu family though05:11
Phrantikis dsl debian based05:11
Ultraputzit's not a specific kind05:11
Ultraputzit's a class05:11
Ultraputzit just means tiny linux installs05:11
Ultraputzer distros05:12
Phrantiko cool i always thought that was a distro05:12
Phrantikthanx05:12
Ultraputzsoytenly05:12
Ultraputzbad_crc ayb ?05:12
BaD_CrCold05:13
Ultraputz:-)05:13
briankotrying to get svn working with apache2 in gutsy...installed the apache2-svn modules, and get an unresolved reference error on startup05:49
brianko Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: dav_register_provider05:49
briankoany ideas?05:49
Ultraputzis it set up in your httpd.conf ?05:49
Ultraputzlike modules set up?05:49
Ultraputzthen apachectl restart ?05:49
briankoyes and yes05:49
Ultraputzmodule is loaded ?05:50
Ultraputzetc.05:50
Ultraputz?05:50
Ultraputz(brb)05:50
Ultraputzis it set up for the directory, btw?/05:50
briankoerror is generated while mod_dav is being loaded05:50
Ultraputzyou need / use webdav?05:50
briankono, but you need dav to use authz-svn05:51
briankothis works fine on a CentOS machine, I'm trying to move everything over to gutsy05:51
briankohmm...nothing in the bug tracker...can't believe I'm the only one with this problem.  I can only guess there's an unmet dep somewhere...05:54
Ultraputzyou copied over your httpd.conf ?06:07
Ultraputzor did you manually edit the local copy ?06:07
Ultraputzi'm picking at this because %99 of the problems that pop up if you know what you're doing is a forgotten # somewhere or not set up right in the privelege declarations.06:08
briankook, found the problem06:11
Ultraputzit was ?06:11
briankowhen the apache2_dav package is installed, it sets up a dav_svn.load link...06:11
briankobut, it does *not* set up the dav.load link06:12
briankoso it was a dep issue06:12
Ultraputzmight toss a comment to the bug tracker06:13
briankodoing so now...although this probably is more of a user error than anything06:13
briankothanks for the assist06:14
Ultraputzsorry i wasn't more useful :-)06:18
Ultraputzi got a small issue myself related to audacity06:28
Ultraputzcomponent->fd, component->buffer, len )' failed in06:28
Ultraputz'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 107906:28
UltraputzExpression 'PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'06:28
Ultraputzfailed in 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 161406:28
Ultraputzstrace dump06:28
MaximusBroodHello06:49
ThingusGreat googly moogly, this upgrade is taking forever.06:49
MaximusBroodIs there a way to setup Xubuntu remotely, or isn't this the intended purpose for Xubuntu?06:50
MaximusBrood(like Debian, which offers a disk install)06:50
MaximusBroodI got boot-time terminal access to the machine, but no graphics whatsoever.06:51
MaximusBroodI've*06:51
Ultraputzis x set up ?06:52
MaximusBroodI doubt you have understood my question.06:53
MaximusBroodIt's a remote machine, I'm asking if I can install Xubuntu remotely (with boot-time terminal access, but no graphics). Or if that isn't the intended purpose of Xubuntu.06:54
Ultraputzi don't know, actually.06:57
Ultraputzsorry.06:57
blackestGot a big problem with xubuntu hardy i cant do any thing with sudo since it says unable to resolve host08:06
blackestall i can do with networking is ping the gateway/router by ip address08:08
ere4siblackest, what is listed in your /etc/hosts file08:15
ere4si!paste | blackest08:15
ubotublackest: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)08:15
blackestnot so easy when networking isnt working on the xubuntu pc08:16
ere4siblackest, can you use sneakernet - copy the file to usb drive then paste from the comp with net access?08:19
blackestoff hand i think it has 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 eeepc followed by some ip6 stuff08:19
blackestactually its now eeepc.consulate.lan for 127.0.1.1 i changed the hostname in networking coz i couldnt change hosts08:25
ere4siblackest, the eeepc has its' own chat for issues - seems it has some unique issues :) - /j #eeepc - will get you there08:27
blackestits that hardy kernel which seems to mess some of it up08:28
blackestthe .22 version seems to let me get some net access .24 nothing08:29
ere4siblackest, well hardy is still beta atm - there's bound to be issues - asked in #ubuntu+1 the hardy channel?08:31
blackestok good advice thank you08:31
ere4sik :)08:31
blackestwell the older kernel is letting me grab ubuntu-desktop so thats a help (i feel more comfortable with gnome)08:34
jepes can i increase the number of virtual desktops on xubuntu ?09:49
jepes!ping09:49
* jepes asks "guys???"09:51
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore09:56
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SekaabHello there13:45
^u^!hi13:46
ArmyMan007hi13:49
ArmyMan007I want to ask a question regarding Xubuntu13:50
Sekaabask right away13:50
ArmyMan007okey13:50
ArmyMan007I've installed version 7.04 of Xubuntu13:51
ArmyMan007alternate install13:51
ArmyMan007and I want to install version 7/10 alternate install13:51
ArmyMan007so, I have 2 questions:13:51
ArmyMan0071) Is version 7.10 going to be installed on the 7.04 version?13:51
ArmyMan0072) is there a difrence between alternate install and normal one?13:52
Sekaabwait a minute please13:52
blackestyou could or just install the eeeXubuntu cd thats 7.1013:52
ArmyMan007?13:52
ArmyMan007eeeXubuntu?13:52
ArmyMan007:O13:52
blackestyes theres a torrent for it13:53
blackesthttp://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home13:53
^u^ArmyMan007, alternate is a method of install -you get the same product as normal - and to install 7.10 you would need to format the partition 7.04 is on or do the recommended and upgrade 7.04 to 7.1013:53
ArmyMan007I can't upgrade since I don't have internet13:54
ArmyMan007the only reason I'm getting the version 7.10 is because I can setup the internet easliy there...13:54
^u^ArmyMan007, then when you go to install 7.10 it is going to need free space - is there any on your disk?13:55
ArmyMan007I want to put it where the Xubuntu 7.04 is13:55
^u^ArmyMan007, what trouble do you have with setting up a net connection?13:56
ArmyMan007do I need to format it before I install the 7.10?13:56
ArmyMan007people saying it would be easier to assist me via 7.1013:56
^u^ArmyMan007, formatting and partitioning is something the installer will let you do13:56
^u^so you can format during install13:57
ArmyMan007okey13:57
^u^ArmyMan007, is it wireless connection?13:57
ArmyMan007I know where the 7.04 is installed...13:57
ArmyMan007yes13:57
^u^LeAstrale, is here maybe13:57
ArmyMan007blackest -> eeeXubuntu is for ePC, not a desktop one...13:58
^u^he's good with the wireless13:58
^u^ArmyMan007, if you have nothing that will be missed with a reinstall - that might be easiest - if you make a separate /home partition the next time you reinstall you're settings will be saved13:59
ArmyMan007^u^ -> the installtion is about to take place where the 7.04 is installed14:01
ArmyMan007^u^ -> so it dosn't matter14:02
ArmyMan007^u^ ->14:02
^u^k14:02
ArmyMan007^u^ -> once I get the 7.10 installed, I will be able to get assistance regarding wireless connection14:02
^u^good luck then :)14:03
ArmyMan007^u^ -> thanks! better get started... l8er :)14:03
Sekaabi would help you even with 7.04, i am still using it14:03
* Sekaab shrugs14:03
Sekaabi like 7.04, its working ...14:03
^u^it happens14:04
Sekaabmy server is running 7.10 though14:04
^u^just 'cause there's something new doesn't mean you have to use it...14:04
* Sekaab nods14:04
^u^:)14:05
LeAstralewhay do you ask for me U ?14:13
prinMy laptop battery seems to be acting very strange under xubuntu. Is there a way, maybe a command in the terminal, to see exactly how many percent of the battery is charged?16:29
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prinNevermind, problem solved.16:42
oxthemoronhello16:47
SekaabHi16:47
mjw-if you're on a battery, you should have a battery icon in the notification tray ;)16:47
mjw-hi there16:48
omsantihi all16:48
oxthemoronI have a quick question... I'm installing xubuntu on my other computer and it's been "copying installation logs..." for about an hour16:48
oxthemoronhow do i make it finish?16:49
omsantihow to configure xdsl on xubuntu? anyone plz16:49
oxthemoron:-)16:49
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ArmyMan007hi everybody18:17
ArmyMan007I need help on how to get my internet up and running18:17
ArmyMan007I need to configure my network, and I need a one on one help18:17
gabkdllyhi ArmyMan00718:19
gabkdllydid you try Applications -> System -> Network ?18:20
ArmyMan007what the hell was that???18:20
ArmyMan007I just need some help on how to configure it all...18:21
gabkdllyhow can we help you?18:21
ArmyMan007well...18:22
ArmyMan007I kinda need a step-by-step guide on how to do so18:22
ArmyMan007I have lots of time now, so I'm free to do so...18:22
ArmyMan007and I really want to get the internet to work...18:22
ArmyMan007!netsplit18:23
gabkdllyfile:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/internet.html18:23
ArmyMan007no no18:23
ArmyMan007guides are usless18:23
ArmyMan007i can't understand a thing out of it...18:24
ArmyMan007i really need some help...18:24
ArmyMan007and by the way... i'm using the internet computer which has XP, the other one (without the internet) has Xubuntu18:25
gabkdllydo you have both computers running right now?18:26
ArmyMan007yes18:26
ArmyMan007can you help me out setting my network? I have a wireless network...18:28
ArmyMan007can you help me out setting my network? I have a wireless network...18:28
gabkdllywell, go to Applications -> System -> Network18:28
ArmyMan007is it possible to keep on going using PM?18:29
ArmyMan007okey.. i got it18:29
ArmyMan007what now?18:30
dezrikIs anyone about, i have a problem :o18:30
gabkdllyclick on "Wireless Connection", then on Properties18:31
gabkdllythen you will have a little form to fill out18:31
ArmyMan007i've got wired connection18:32
ArmyMan007not wireless connection...18:32
gabkdllyin that case, click on wired connection and then on properties18:32
ArmyMan007and then?18:33
gabkdllyhmm, to tell you the truth, I have never configured a wired ethernet connection under Xubuntu, sorry18:34
ArmyMan007oh...18:35
gabkdllyI tend to think that if you have your router set up right, you should just be able to plug it in and everything should work18:35
gabkdllyI guess I am assuming that your router connects to your Xubuntu computer using ethernet18:36
gabkdllyis that so?18:36
ArmyMan007well... beats me.. better get some help... l8er18:36
dezriki need help with my xorg.conf18:37
gabkdllydezrik: please state your question18:37
dezrikMy resolution is 800x600 and i need it to be 1024x768 i entered this res in xorg.conf and it seems like xorg is ignoring my config18:38
gabkdlly!resolution18:40
ubotwoThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:40
gabkdllydezrik: does that help?18:43
dezrikone sec ill see18:43
dezrikthat worked18:48
dezriki tryed CTRL+ALT+Backspace and it didnt work :o18:48
dezrikthank you18:48
dezrikOne more thing, My Wireless drops alot when i was on Windows it never dropped18:48
dezrikim using a Atheros card18:49
dezrikand it worked "Out-of-Box18:49
gabkdllyhmmm, maybe the linux drivers are buggy?18:50
dezrikthey are madwifi drivers18:50
rechhey, since I've updated from 7.04 to 7.10, gksu is taking an eternity to auth me... Is there any way that I could fix/configure it to take less time?18:50
gabkdllyI guess you could check if bugs have been filed for this driver18:51
gabkdllyI myself use ndiswrapper to wrap the functionality from windows XP drivers, but your mileage may vary18:52
Neumanngetting "the configuration could not be loaded" "you are not allowed to access the system configuration" on boot, appears to be attached to networking conf. no idea why this is popping up.18:52
Neumannchecked /etc/network/*, interfaces is correct, permissions are correct.18:52
dezrikhow do you load Scripts in X-Chat19:00
Gabryshello here :)19:30
Gabrysanyone tried HardyHeron with Broadcom WIFI network card?19:31
sonicreindeerNaw, can't say as I have, Gabrys. I actuially attemptuing to ressurect Feisty from an over-aggressive Jaguar. Jag w/ the Classic sys folders loaded on top as a client experiement on my box destroyed my bootloader.19:39
sonicreindeerI've burned a PC ISO to load into my dead PC in the back so I can rebrun my Feisty image for a rescue/ boot repair.19:40
sonicreindeerreburn19:40
TheSheepsonicreindeer: you can use any livecd distro or linux bootdisk for that19:41
sonicreindeerAll I have @ my disposal is my G4 w/ Jaguar loaded.19:41
sonicreindeerOk.19:41
Gabryssonicreindeer: and is there an option, that I just miss installing b43-fwcutter?19:41
Gabrysdo I need this installed if I want the BCM to start working19:42
Gabryssonicreindeer: I've just read, this may be the problem19:43
Gabrysanyways, thank for help19:43
sonicreindeerAnytime.19:44
Gabryssee you19:45
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holothe kernel 2.4 images were suposed to be in universe right?20:44
atahualpahi21:03
atahualpahow can I get to the console?21:03
holxhi21:05
holxanyone know why my thunar fails to display directories with a lot of files completely21:06
holx?*21:06
holx406 items and it shows much less21:07
entitywhy dosen't my theme change the apperance on the "menu bar" at the buttom and the top?21:51
j1mcentity: good question.21:56
j1mci don't really have an answer for you, though.21:56
entityhehe k.. does yours change?22:03
j1mcentity: no, my panel doesn't chane color when i change the theme.22:05
entityhmm because when i look at theme's for xubuntu everyone got the theme on the panel too22:08
PsynoKhi0heya, a quick question: what's the difference between the "unprivileged" and "desktop user" profiles in the "Add user" window?22:11
holoPsynoKhi0: i don't know exacly but intuitively i would say that a desktop user is in video/group for example and he could also scale to root and unprivileged not22:15
PsynoKhi0holo: ok22:21
PsynoKhi0ty22:21
entityj1mc:  maybe its a setting somewhere?22:22
j1mcentity: you may want to ask in #xfce ... sorry i can't help at this time.22:23
ThingusGutsy isn't detecting my laptop battery.22:59
acaceolWoot, irssi works.23:27
Ultraputzack.23:27
ThingusDoes anyone have any idea why my battery isn't detected?23:29
viddcheck to see if you have gnome-power-manager running23:32
Thingusvidd: Doesn't seem to do anything23:34
ThingusAnd /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state says it's not there.23:35
ThingusRight, thanks for the help.23:36
ThingusHello?23:41
ThingusAnyone even here?23:41
acaceolI am23:41
acaceolTrying to figure out how to look at ison in irssi :/23:41
ThingusOh, good, maybe you can help me out...23:41
TheSheepThingus: is it an old laptop?23:41
ThingusTheSheep: Vaguely... Built in 2000.23:41
zoredachevidd: re the bugg you posted a couple days ago...  I did a clean install of xubuntu 6.06, and then did an upgrade to hardy... The upgrade went fine, all my ttys where available23:41
TheSheepThingus: check dmesg and see if there is a varning about acpi and a cutoff23:42
TheSheepThingus: to do that, type 'dmesg | less' in terminal23:42
Thingus[ 1587.855206] ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found.23:43
ThingusThat seem likely?23:43
viddzoredache, hrm23:44
TheSheepThingus: I think that's normal23:44
Ultraputzhey sheep23:44
viddzoredache, what were your specks?23:44
Ultraputzi finally got an strace on audacity23:44
TheSheepUltraputz: any enlightement?23:45
Ultraputzbooting the machine23:45
Ultraputzthere's also an ethernet issue that prevents me from using it online atm.23:45
TheSheepUltraputz: well, you probably want to attach it to a bug report23:45
viddand zoredache did you do the upgrade from the desktop, or from the tty?23:45
Thingus[   41.444000] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)23:45
ThingusBut, the battery is there.23:45
Ultraputzi see what it is, i'm hoping against hope that somewhere in that wooly brain of yours, is an "oh, that. just do x" :-)23:46
ThingusTheSheep: I didn't see anything that really stood out at me.23:47
TheSheepThingus: then I don't know. I was thinking that maybe acpi is not enabled (it's not enabled for computers manufactured before 2000 without a force boot option)23:48
acaceolHow do I view the server status window in IRSSI?23:48
TheSheepacaceol: server status window?23:48
Ultraputzok, paraphrasing, src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c expression "PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'' failed in src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c23:48
TheSheepacaceol: maybe try asking at #irssi23:48
Ultraputzthat's the meat of the trace where hitting record broke it23:49
ThingusGuh... -.-23:49
TheSheepUltraputz: you can't use alsa?23:49
acaceolThe one that /help goes to23:49
Ultraputzit fails regardless of which combination of also settings i shoot for.23:49
Ultraputzer alsa23:49
ThingusHrm... Let me reboot and see if I can't tweak something.23:49
Ultraputzalso, i verified the mic is working through the control panel (which seems to reflect OSSisms) -- playthrough from the mic worked (and produced terrifick feedback)23:50
Ultraputzin fact, i can set the volume on the mic and recreate the feedback / playthrough in audacity with /dev/oss set.23:51
TheSheepUltraputz: I have no ideas, maybe report a bug and attach whatever info you collected to it23:51
Ultraputztop23:52
Ultraputzer23:52
TheSheepUltraputz: you might also want to report it at audacity's bugtracker, and make a link to the ubuntu's one23:52
TheSheepUltraputz: chances are the authors will know best23:52
Ultraputzja23:52
Ultraputzso in the short-term, can you recommend a lightweight audio recorder package?23:52
TheSheepUltraputz: gnome-audio?23:53
Ultraputzi'd like to see if i can recreate it with a second application23:53
Ultraputzthat's lightweight ?23:53
TheSheeplet me check23:53
Ultraputzthe word 'gnome' raised a red flag :-)23:53
TheSheepUltraputz: it means nothing, really, just that the app was good enough to be accepted in gnome23:54
Ultraputzaha23:54
TheSheepno, wait, gnome-audio only contains sounds23:54
* Ultraputz attempts the stupid...23:54
TheSheepok, it's gnome-media, but has quite a bunch of gnome deps23:55
Ultraputzthat was my fear.23:55
Ultraputzi was trying to just cp from the device to a file to see what came out23:55
ThingusWell, that sucks... I guess the only way for me to check my battery state is to use the Fn key, or lift up the laptop and press the button on the underside of the battery.23:56
Ultraputzthat works23:56
Ultraputzcp /dev/dsp tmp.raw23:57
Ultraputz...23:57
* Ultraputz eyes audacity suspiciously.23:57
TheSheepthen copy it back23:57
TheSheepyou're doing it from an user or root?23:57
Ultraputzas user23:57
Ultraputzand it's working23:57
Ultraputzat the very least, i have a working recorder :-)23:58
ThingusGar...23:58
TheSheepUltraputz: you are aware that only one app can use oss at a time23:58
ThingusMaybe I should just go back to Feisty.23:58
ThingusEverything worked fine then.23:58
TheSheepThingus: reporting a bug might help making it work in future versions23:59

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