| === ember_ is now known as ember | ||
| mohbana | fix the icedtea already please | 01:06 |
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| ryanakca | What would you do with a bug like 193843? Invalid? Switch it to the Synaptic package and mark as "Triaged,Wishlist"? | 02:28 |
| secretlondon | bug #193843 | 02:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 193843 in kubuntu-meta "Please port synaptic to KDE or Qt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193843 | 02:30 |
| secretlondon | wishlist certainly | 02:31 |
| secretlondon | keep it on kde I think | 02:31 |
| secretlondon | it's a bug on kubuntu, not on synaptic | 02:31 |
| RAOF | Isn't that just _Adept_? | 02:34 |
| ryanakca | RAOF: imho, its a "we probably won't ever do that" bug... | 02:35 |
| RAOF | What I mean is, doesn't Adept fill the same role as synaptic for KDE? In which case, the bug is invalid. | 02:37 |
| secretlondon | well they are complaining that adept doesn't do the job | 02:37 |
| RAOF | Right. So it's one or more wishlist bugs against adept? | 02:38 |
| secretlondon | yes | 02:39 |
| RAOF | Now, having actually read the bug I'm more inclined to punt it as invalid, and ask for the filer to file some wishlist bugs against adept. | 02:39 |
| ryanakca | RAOF: ok, I'll do that. | 02:41 |
| ryanakca | thanks :) | 02:42 |
| yuriy | ryanakca: good answer | 03:14 |
| ryanakca | yuriy: thanks :) | 03:15 |
| yuriy | i saw that bug and was going to say something along the lines of this should be a spec, but work is underway on a new version of adept anyway, but didn't have the energy to put it nicely | 03:15 |
| ryanakca | :) | 03:16 |
| greg-g | dang secretlondon, you're on top of those sound bugs :) | 03:29 |
| secretlondon | greg-g I'm looking out for them using ubotu ;) | 03:29 |
| greg-g | secretlondon: yeah, I keep checking in there every 10-15 minutes, but you always beat me ;) | 03:31 |
| secretlondon | :P | 03:31 |
| greg-g | hey, can I ask your opinion/help on linking an upstream real quick? | 03:31 |
| secretlondon | sure | 03:32 |
| greg-g | I'm looking at bug 190240 | 03:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 190240 in rhythmbox "Rhythmbox podcast reciever fails to download enapsulated data that includes a redirect" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190240 | 03:32 |
| greg-g | I have found these two in bugzilla.gnome: | 03:32 |
| greg-g | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489173 | 03:32 |
| greg-g | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503628 | 03:32 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 489173 in Podcast "Fails to subscribe to complex podcast addresses" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 03:33 |
| greg-g | and I have heard that it is reported in bugzilla.gnome so I am just trying to find it, but I'm not exactly sure if either of those is the same bug | 03:33 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 503628 in Podcast "R-b can't download episodes from a CNN podcast" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 03:33 |
| secretlondon | they both have ? in them | 03:33 |
| greg-g | yeah | 03:34 |
| greg-g | so, they might be dupes themselves | 03:34 |
| secretlondon | yeah | 03:34 |
| secretlondon | and neither are confirmed | 03:34 |
| greg-g | right | 03:34 |
| secretlondon | so the earliest maybe? | 03:34 |
| greg-g | and I've never done bug management (other than forwarding LP bugs to it) in bugzilla.gnome | 03:35 |
| secretlondon | maybe mention the other one in your report | 03:35 |
| secretlondon | let them decide if they are dupes | 03:35 |
| greg-g | true true | 03:35 |
| === zirpu2 is now known as zirpu | ||
| * secretlondon wonders wtf we are supposed to do with bug #200446 | 04:21 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200446 in ubuntu "ubuntu7.10在中文界面下的PDF支持不是完美的，因为有时候中文是一个字，（比如“厚”，但是在PDF阅读器的目录里会显示为相近的“辱”。类似的有“胥”与“青”" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200446 | 04:21 |
| RAOF | Push it through google? | 04:25 |
| RAOF | And then mention that we actually only handle bugs in English? :/ | 04:26 |
| secretlondon | we could try, but it's only a few lines of text anyway. I guess it's not even a proper bug even if we could translate it | 04:26 |
| secretlondon | we *should* also be able to handle bugs in not english, as we do make a big thing of localisation | 04:27 |
| secretlondon | and yet our systems are completely monolingual | 04:27 |
| techno_freak | or LP should handle this internally and post the english translated version as comment ;) | 04:34 |
| RAOF | secretlondon: It looks like it probably is a bug, after pushing through google. | 04:34 |
| secretlondon | RAOF thanks | 04:34 |
| secretlondon | techno_freak: machine translation? I think maybe tagging bugs with language and native speakers of X language looking for bugs with that tag? | 04:34 |
| techno_freak | secretlondon, LP can ask the Orig reporter to mark his language, if its not english, and provide an option for others to see a translation of it may be use google at the back end. | 04:37 |
| techno_freak | tagging bugs with language is a good idea too | 04:38 |
| RAOF | techno_freak: That's a good idea - we should probably file that as a bug against launchpad. | 04:38 |
| techno_freak | :) | 04:38 |
| RAOF | techno_freak: Would you credit it? People have thought of this before :) https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/52955. | 04:40 |
| * techno_freak checks | 04:42 | |
| techno_freak | ah, me and RAOF commented the same google translation ;) but it was me who was late :| | 04:56 |
| === zirpu2 is now known as zirpu | ||
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 52955 in malone "translators for non-english bug reports" [Wishlist,New] | 05:07 |
| RAOF | Welcome back ubotu. | 05:15 |
| techno_freak | can someone help me remove 'Ubuntu India Loco Team' from the list of subscribed teams for the bug #183958 ? | 06:47 |
| secretlondon | techno_freak: don't have the permissions to look at it | 06:50 |
| secretlondon | i'm in bug control too | 06:50 |
| techno_freak | secretlondon, can't catch hold of the list admin is not easy job, so trying to find some one else who can do it. | 06:51 |
| techno_freak | the entire people subscribed to loco team is now spamming back, half of them wondering why they are in the team still :S | 06:52 |
| secretlondon | you probably need someone from canonical | 06:53 |
| techno_freak | hmm :) | 06:54 |
| ubotu | Bug 183958 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/183958 is private | 06:55 |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
| hggdh | all: just had a chat with pitti on #ubuntu-desktop -- apport-retrace is disabled for gutsy crashes. As a result, any bug created by apport will be inaccessible to bug triagers. In fact, it will only be accessible to the reporter... | 07:57 |
| secretlondon | oh | 07:58 |
| hggdh | I am not sure I was able to explain to pitti the consequences to bug triaging. Help is very welcome | 07:59 |
| secretlondon | did he say why apport has been disabled for gutsy? | 08:00 |
| hggdh | (2008-03-10 02:47:40) pitti: hggdh: I disabled that, since gutsy's python-launchpad-bugs is totally out of date | 08:01 |
| hggdh | (2008-03-10 02:47:54) pitti: hggdh: the subscription is done by the retracer | 08:01 |
| secretlondon | so how are we supposed to deal with gutsy bugs? | 08:02 |
| hggdh | (time is US CDT -- forgot to update my system time to GMT+1) | 08:02 |
| secretlondon | cdt =-6? | 08:02 |
| hggdh | I guess, right now, we are *not* | 08:02 |
| hggdh | right now CDT=gmt-6 | 08:02 |
| secretlondon | maybe bdmurray needs to speak to him | 08:02 |
| hggdh | perhaps... | 08:02 |
| hggdh | I can understand not having retraces on 7.10, but not being blocked from bug triaging | 08:03 |
| secretlondon | but there is question of how to triage a bug without a retrace | 08:03 |
| secretlondon | we probably shouldn't even be accepting them if we aren't going to do anything with them | 08:04 |
| hggdh | secretlondon: please keep in mind that lack of access is restricted to apport-generated bugs | 08:04 |
| secretlondon | they are pretty big uploads | 08:04 |
| secretlondon | hggdh: sure I know. but we can't do a lot with a .crash file | 08:05 |
| hggdh | even without apport-retrace, if the bug is opened by someone that has installed the necessary debug packages, the local apport-gtk trace would be enough | 08:05 |
| secretlondon | true | 08:05 |
| hggdh | but this is purely theoretically interesting, since we will not have access anyway | 08:05 |
| hggdh | sigh. oh tempora, oh mores | 08:06 |
| secretlondon | but we don't not have access *by design*, just as a consequence? | 08:06 |
| hggdh | I cannot answer that | 08:06 |
| hggdh | meaning I do not know | 08:06 |
| secretlondon | regardless someone needs to do something about bug #183958 as a whole loco team has been subscribed to it | 08:08 |
| ubotu | Bug 183958 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/183958 is private | 08:08 |
| secretlondon | even if it needs a canonical sysadmin | 08:08 |
| hggdh | :-) as one should have expected, I cannot even see it. Cool. I am a bug triager that is forbidden to triage. | 08:09 |
| techno_freak | ah | 08:09 |
| techno_freak | some one set it as private, thinking that will stop the mails they get | 08:10 |
| secretlondon | but bug control can normally see private bugs | 08:10 |
| secretlondon | but i can't see that one | 08:10 |
| hggdh | and unsubscribed bug triagers also... | 08:11 |
| hggdh | bug control and QA can see most bugs because we get automagically subscribed to them | 08:11 |
| secretlondon | ah | 08:11 |
| techno_freak | the problem is people started unsubscribing from the team to get rid of the spam | 08:11 |
| RAOF | I'm in ~ubuntu-dev, and I can't view that bug, which means that it's not in Ubuntu? | 08:12 |
| hggdh | RAOF: no, it means you are not subcribed to it (either directly, or via a group subscription) | 08:13 |
| hggdh | or, of course, it is set as a security issue | 08:13 |
| techno_freak | oops, something happened, i can't see it too :s | 08:13 |
| hggdh | all: welcome to my personall hell, since yesterday | 08:13 |
| secretlondon | hi pedro_ | 11:25 |
| pedro_ | hello secretlondon! | 11:25 |
| secretlondon | pedro_ there is a problem with gutsy apport bugs apparently - i'm told that we don't have access to them anymore | 11:30 |
| secretlondon | <hggdh> all: just had a chat with pitti on #ubuntu-desktop -- apport-retrace is disabled for gutsy crashes. As a result, any bug created by apport will be inaccessible to bug triagers. In fact, it will only be accessible to the reporter.. | 11:31 |
| secretlondon | Bug #200338 is the bug of the day, 21 duplicates and counting | 11:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200338 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 | 11:33 |
| techno_freak | ah | 11:37 |
| Iulian | Hey | 11:44 |
| techno_freak | Iulian, heya | 11:45 |
| Iulian | Hi techno_freak | 11:46 |
| secretlondon | hi Iulian | 11:46 |
| secretlondon | Iulian metabug of the day bug #200338 | 11:46 |
| Iulian | Hello secretlondon | 11:49 |
| Iulian | Woah! | 11:49 |
| * secretlondon has been dealing with "my sound has broken" questions all morning.. | 11:49 | |
| secretlondon | and duping them all | 11:49 |
| Iulian | Bleh, I haven't upgraded to 2.6.24-12 yet | 11:51 |
| Pici | I knew I was going to regret subscribing to that bug. | 11:51 |
| secretlondon | we'll get 101 ME TOOs | 11:51 |
| techno_freak | nice job ;0 | 11:53 |
| Iulian | Yeah, we should add a comment saying something like: "Please stop confirming, this bug is well known". | 11:53 |
| techno_freak | ;) | 11:53 |
| Iulian | Ohh, I see pedro is here! Hello pedro_ | 11:53 |
| secretlondon | Iulian: it's been done several times | 11:53 |
| Iulian | Uhmm, okay. | 11:54 |
| Iulian | pedro_: Long time no see, Henrik told me that you were at a FOSS meeting IIRC | 11:55 |
| secretlondon | hi greg_g | 12:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200338 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 | 12:15 |
| secretlondon | wow bot lag | 12:15 |
| Iulian | Indeed :) | 12:15 |
| Iulian | ~30min | 12:16 |
| * secretlondon nods | 12:16 | |
| greg-g | hiya secretlondon, I woke up to 60 messages from just that sound bug | 12:17 |
| * secretlondon nods | 12:17 | |
| secretlondon | I got 100 emails from the old pycentral bug | 12:17 |
| greg-g | ahh yeah, nice | 12:18 |
| * greg-g loves how people don't read before posting "me too" | 12:18 | |
| secretlondon | totally | 12:18 |
| secretlondon | just caught another dupe | 12:19 |
| * secretlondon sighs | 12:19 | |
| techno_freak | *secretlondon is known as dupe-hunter | 12:23 |
| techno_freak | ;) | 12:23 |
| secretlondon | :D | 12:23 |
| === mvo_ is now known as mvo | ||
| secretlondon | the bug is now listed as fix commited | 12:27 |
| Iulian | That's wonderful! | 12:30 |
| secretlondon | ben Collins is dealing with | 12:31 |
| secretlondon | sound bug is fixed in hardy 2.6.24-12.20 | 14:16 |
| Iulian | That was fast. | 14:27 |
| * secretlondon nods | 14:32 | |
| secretlondon | night | 14:50 |
| qense | Can a mark a bug as fix released when an update solved the problem, but the update wasn't meant to do so, there isn't a patch written for the bug. | 14:58 |
| pedro_ | qense: yes, you can | 15:03 |
| qense | ok | 15:03 |
| qense | Does bug #200130 needs more information? | 15:19 |
| qense | bug 200130 | 15:20 |
| qense | ubotu? | 15:20 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: welcome back! | 15:23 |
| pedro_ | heeey bdmurray! thanks you ;-) | 15:23 |
| pedro_ | new channel eh? :-) | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | ubotu has been having some connectivity issues but should be here but not announcing | 15:24 |
| Pici | I just requested that the temporary bot be joined here, just for bug# resolving | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | bug 1 | 15:29 |
| LjL | bdmurray, can you please mute ubotu so we can bring a backup bot | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | LjL: I've no way to contact him, he isn't my bot. | 15:31 |
| LjL | bdmurray: i mean mute him from the channel. /mode #ubuntu-bugs +q *!*@ubuntu/bot/ubotu | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | LjL: heh, okay sure | 15:32 |
| LjL | bug 1 | 15:34 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 15:34 |
| qense | so, does bug 200130 contains enough information? | 15:36 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 200130 in alsa-driver "Fix sound on nVidia GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M chipset (Asus F5N, Acer Aspire 4250)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200130 | 15:36 |
| qense | I'm not really sure what to ask for | 15:36 |
| qense | btw, bdmurray: have you read my application for the BugControl team? | 15:39 |
| qense | I'm curious for your comments ;) | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | qense: I haven't yet I'm sorry. I've been quite busy. | 15:40 |
| qense | it's ok | 15:40 |
| bdmurray | bug 1 | 15:52 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 15:52 |
| === albert24 is now known as albert23 | ||
| wraund | can anyone help me with this? | 16:34 |
| wraund | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5528/ | 16:34 |
| wraund | working :) | 16:41 |
| wraund | sound is back online xD | 16:41 |
| afflux | morning | 17:03 |
| afflux | which package is responsible for loading the correct sound kernel modules? | 17:04 |
| pedro_ | afflux: you're probably affected by bug 200338 | 17:06 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 200338 in linux "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 | 17:06 |
| afflux | pedro_: don't think so, I'm just triaging bug 199793 | 17:07 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 199793 in ubuntu "8.10 Alpha 6: No sound with ALC883" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199793 | 17:07 |
| pedro_ | ok cool, not the same then | 17:07 |
| afflux | ah, -12... maybe I should try that one ;) | 17:08 |
| afflux | anyway, I wonder which package should be assigned to 199793 | 17:08 |
| afflux | huh, someone set my ubuntu bug to invalid because upstream committed a fix to it's VCS | 17:35 |
| Iulian | afflux: That's weird, which bug? | 17:55 |
| afflux | Iulian: bug 157082 | 17:55 |
| ubotwo | Launchpad bug 157082 in pastebinit "manpage suggesting wrong arguments" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157082 | 17:56 |
| Iulian | Thanks. | 17:57 |
| bdmurray | afflux: re 199793 it'd be the kernel so linux and while they've worked around it may still be a valid bug | 18:20 |
| afflux | yep | 18:20 |
| afflux | alright, thanks | 18:20 |
| qense | hello | 18:23 |
| qense | I'm working on triaging bug 200130, but I'm not sure if I've asked for enough information. | 18:23 |
| qense | What do you think? | 18:24 |
| qense | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/200130 | 18:25 |
| andrea-bs | qense: it seems he's using an old version of the kernel | 18:28 |
| pedro_ | gosh my fonts are so small | 18:31 |
| qense | it's the latest version on gutsy though | 18:31 |
| qense | and gutsy is still the current release | 18:31 |
| * pedro_ kicks xchat | 18:31 | |
| andrea-bs | qense: but non on hardy | 18:32 |
| qense | maybe he's using the gutsy installation | 18:32 |
| qense | I can ask him that | 18:32 |
| andrea-bs | [from the bug] Sound does not work in either 7.10 and 8.04 Alpha 6 | 18:32 |
| qense | and ask him to report this on both versions | 18:32 |
| qense | and if he uses the latest hardy kernel | 18:32 |
| qense | is 2.6.22 still used by default by hardy? | 18:33 |
| Pici | No. 2.6.24-12 now. | 18:33 |
| qense | ok | 18:33 |
| qense | thx | 18:33 |
| Pici | http://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 is currently logged for the sound issue on that kernel revision. | 18:33 |
| andrea-bs | he's using 2.6.24-11-generic, the latest is 2.6.24-12-generic | 18:33 |
| qense | ah | 18:34 |
| qense | I was just looking at the uname -a output at the top of the log | 18:34 |
| qense | I'll ask him to upgrade hardy tot he latest kernel and try again | 18:34 |
| andrea-bs | qense: the patch on hardy has been uploaded so tell him to wait some hours | 18:39 |
| qense | ok, thx | 18:39 |
| andrea-bs | qense: <https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/palmer> | 18:39 |
| qense | that's the building on someone's ppa or the real ubuntu package? | 18:40 |
| andrea-bs | the real ubuntu package | 18:40 |
| qense | wow :P | 18:40 |
| qense | looks nice | 18:40 |
| andrea-bs | ;) | 18:41 |
| ryanakca | mr_pouit: btw, sorry for all the spam bug mail I'm causing you :) | 19:12 |
| qense | I go, goodbye everybody! | 19:20 |
| === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger | ||
| mr_pouit | ryanakca: only 32 new mails, that's not so much ^_~ | 21:18 |
| ryanakca | mr_pouit: lol, not done :) | 21:19 |
| mr_pouit | ^^ | 21:19 |
| mr_pouit | ryanakca: but I think you misunderstood, it's 5-A-Day, not 50 ;p | 21:22 |
| ryanakca | lol :P | 21:23 |
| greg-g | 46 duplicates, wow | 21:41 |
| wolfger | 46 duplicates, and somebody on Brainstorm wants to make it easier to file bugs for (and I'm severely paraphrasing) people without a clue. One key point mentioned in the proposal is that "checking for duplicates is too technical" | 21:56 |
| pochu | create a new idea, "fix all bugs in Ubuntu", and mark that one as superseeded by this one :Þ | 21:57 |
| wolfger | I suggest all triagers go "digg it down"... http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1395/ | 21:58 |
| wolfger | oops, that's the wrong link | 21:59 |
| wolfger | had a very similar title. Maybe the one I commented on earlier already got buried. | 22:00 |
| wolfger | ah, it was marked "duplicate" http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4062/ | 22:06 |
| === ember_ is now known as ember | ||
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