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kraut | moin | 08:53 |
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Tonio_ | hi there | 08:53 |
Tonio_ | cking_: hey, I just wanted to report a little issue with latest kernel update | 08:53 |
Tonio_ | cking_: you included my patch for bug 87253 | 08:54 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 87253 in linux "internal speakers do not work on MacBook Pro" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87253 | 08:54 |
Tonio_ | cking_: for some reason I can't figure out, the sound broke on macbook pro.... | 08:54 |
Tonio_ | cking_: I'm re-reading the patch and I must say I can't figure out why..... that's should work as crimsun's old one... | 08:55 |
tjaalton | Tonio_: bug 200338 | 08:55 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 200338 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 | 08:55 |
Tonio_ | tjaalton: so that's maybe more general issue than just my patch then ? | 08:56 |
Tonio_ | tjaalton: then I would understand :) | 08:57 |
tjaalton | maybe yes, affecting everyone ;) | 08:57 |
cking_ | Tonio_: Looks like a more generic sound problem. | 08:57 |
Tonio_ | tjaalton: oki ;) | 08:57 |
Tonio_ | tjaalton: thanks for the info :) I really felt guilty with proposing a crackfull patch ;) | 08:57 |
Tonio_ | cking_: okay | 08:57 |
cking_ | Tonio_: Once the generic problem is resolved, I suggest trying again... | 08:57 |
tjaalton | Tonio_: np, haven't noticed that myself yet, but saw the bug | 08:58 |
Tonio_ | cking_: sure | 08:58 |
cking_ | Tonio_: Once I reboot my laptop with the latest 2.6.24-12.18 updates I am bound to experience the same problem. | 09:02 |
Kano | hi, does anybody get sound with a hardy snapshot | 10:26 |
Kano | i dont think that disabling sound in the kernel options helps.. | 10:27 |
infinity | No, sound's busticated. | 10:27 |
infinity | There's a bug with a billion "me too"s. | 10:27 |
infinity | Check dmesg, unresolved symbols galore in snd_* modules. | 10:27 |
Kano | well thats because somebody thought disabling sound is a great idea | 10:27 |
Kano | i know that | 10:28 |
infinity | Yeah. :) | 10:28 |
infinity | I'm pretty sure it's "known" is my point. :) | 10:28 |
infinity | (It looks like an attempt to move sound/alsa wholesale from linux-image to l-u-m, but breaking it along the way) | 10:28 |
Kano | well i know this even before it was released, exactly when i saw the patch... | 10:28 |
Kano | minimum CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=m should be disabled | 10:29 |
Kano | that gives only problems | 10:30 |
Kano | you can not blackist it without breaking old kernels on mixed installs | 10:30 |
Kano | as soon as update-initramfs would be triggered then you could not boot an older kernel | 10:31 |
BenC | Good morning able bodies | 11:23 |
amitk | BenC: in case you haven't seen see the bug yet - bug 200338 | 11:33 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 200338 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 | 11:33 |
BenC | amitk: isn't that a case of "install lum please" ? | 11:34 |
amitk | BenC: we have installs w/o LUM? | 11:35 |
BenC | amitk: default install is with lum...linux-image-generic depends on it | 11:35 |
BenC | anybody changing that is taking on their own problems...but this looks like something different anyway | 11:36 |
amitk | besides these things are being triggered from LUM modules - see comment 15, for example | 11:36 |
BenC | right...have you updated your install? | 11:38 |
BenC | I'm updating mine to get a good look at the problem | 11:39 |
amitk | BenC: doing it as we speak | 11:39 |
BenC | Hopefully we wont have to delay beta | 11:40 |
cking_ | BenC: There certainly is a lot of missing sound related symbols... | 11:42 |
cking_ | ..anyhow, you are up early today Ben. | 11:43 |
amitk | be back after a reboot | 11:45 |
* BenC is rebooting too | 11:46 | |
BenC | Ah, CONFIG_SND being disabled makes alsa not able to load | 11:50 |
BenC | stupid | 11:50 |
BenC | I wonder if this can be overcome in lum or if we have to do something in the kernel and re-upload | 11:51 |
cking_ | BenC: I suspect it needs to be done in the kernel rather than the lum. | 11:53 |
BenC | cking_: I fear that too, but I'm hoping we can overcome that somehow :) | 11:53 |
BenC | It's very odd though...the lum build should have failed in this case | 11:56 |
BenC | cking_: I think we may be in luck...those missing symbols are defined in and exported from sound/sound_core.c in alsa | 11:59 |
BenC | just need to figure out why it wasn't compiled in | 11:59 |
cking_ | BenC: Yep, I am just looking at that. Perhaps turning on CONFIG_SOUND will do the trick... perhaps | 11:59 |
cking_ | BenC: Not sure what the difference between CONFIG_SND and CONFIG_SOUND is. | 12:00 |
cking_ | BenC: I see know, SOUND for sound core, SND for ALSA. | 12:01 |
BenC | hmm...why isn't soundcore.ko being built...CONFIG_SOUND=m in the build | 12:06 |
amitk | BenC: hmm.. I wonder if I was facing the same problem - obj-$(BLAH) wasn't getting interpreted correctly. See my latest commit for Marvell | 12:08 |
BenC | "To enable ALSA support you need at least to build the kernel with | 12:13 |
BenC | primary sound card support (CONFIG_SOUND). Since ALSA can emulate OSS, | 12:13 |
BenC | you don't have to choose any of the OSS modules." | 12:13 |
cking_ | BenC: Just run a i386 generic build and no soundcore.ko built - looked at: config.generic --> # CONFIG_SOUND is not set | 12:22 |
BenC | cking_: that's the kernel | 12:22 |
BenC | cking_: I was talking about the alsa-driver build in lum | 12:23 |
cking_ | BenC: Ah. I see what you mean. | 12:23 |
BenC | I've set CONFIG_SOUND in the kernel and am preparing a new upload though | 12:23 |
BenC | pushed my changes in case you guys want to give it a test run | 12:24 |
BenC | I'm doing a -generic build to make sure all is good | 12:24 |
BenC | Going to drink some coffee while this is going on | 12:26 |
BenC | recompiling the kernel with CONFIG_SOUND works for me | 12:46 |
BenC | No ABI bump, so all clear for an easy upload | 12:47 |
BenC | rebooting to be on the safe side, brb | 12:47 |
BenC | [ 26.570791] snd: no version for "unregister_sound_special" found: kernel tainted. | 12:51 |
BenC | a recompile of lum to fix that will be nice though | 12:51 |
siretart | could some kernel hacker please comment on bug #197006? it hits the 'fai' pretty serverly (like in reders it close to unusable) :( | 12:52 |
* allee seconds siretart wish. Ubuntu kernel have unfortunately a bad charma respect to fai :( | 12:54 | |
alex_joni | ubotu: bug 197006 | 12:54 |
alex_joni | ubotu: bug #197006 | 12:55 |
tjaalton | ubotu is just feeling groggy | 12:55 |
alex_joni | seems like it :) | 12:55 |
BenC | probably hasn't had his coffee | 12:55 |
tjaalton | yeah, rough weekend most likely | 12:55 |
BenC | siretart: got a pretty good response for that...use aufs | 12:56 |
BenC | the unionfs in hardy is a dumbed down 1.4 version, just enough for a working live-cd | 12:56 |
BenC | it doesn't have the NFS support in it | 12:56 |
siretart | BenC: I tried aufs as well, but that crashed for me even earlier | 12:57 |
BenC | siretart: "crashed" is a loose word in this context, since unionfs didn't crash either | 12:58 |
BenC | siretart: what exactly happened when you tried to use unionfs (in what way did it fail) | 12:58 |
BenC | aufs I mean | 12:58 |
siretart | I have to admit that I can only tell from memory. I gave it a quick shot, and on the first glance, it looked like aufs wouldn't work with NFS at all | 12:59 |
BenC | If we can give you an updated aufs to resolve this, we can do that...but updating unionfs to work with NFS is not going to happen | 12:59 |
siretart | hm. I see | 12:59 |
BenC | siretart: how hard is it for you to download and build latest aufs with our kernel headers and test it for fai? | 13:00 |
siretart | depends. what package do I need to recompile? | 13:00 |
BenC | not a package, just the aufs source, and replace current aufs.ko with the one you build | 13:01 |
BenC | or you can update the aufs source in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 and rebuild that, but it will take longer | 13:02 |
siretart | BenC: ah, that sounds easy to do. Where can I find the latest aufs source? | 13:03 |
BenC | aufs.sf.net | 13:03 |
siretart | ok. will try that. thanks! | 13:03 |
allee | BenC: thx from my side too! Seems there is a bit of hope again. | 13:04 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 197006 in linux "NFS over Unionfs prevents updating existing files" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197006 | 13:09 |
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amitk | BenC: planning on re-uploading LUM too? | 14:36 |
BenC | amitk: yeah | 14:36 |
BenC | smb: Can you check on the SB600 USB stress test failure patch that Shane Huang just updated us on? | 14:44 |
BenC | smb: I'd like to get that into the kernel...most likely post-beta though | 14:45 |
smb | BenC: Yes I can do. I was looking at the kernel bug when the first patch came in and it sounded as the problem there had not finally be resolved. But I will have a look at the latest patchset | 14:46 |
BenC | smb: thanks | 14:47 |
BenC | We have the rest of this week to work out any remaining serious issues we want for Beta, but we need to make sure we commit nothing that isn't critical | 14:48 |
BenC | Actually, we only have till Wed. since freeze is Thu | 14:48 |
BenC | Any ABI bumps should be considered a no-go unless agreed upon in advance | 14:49 |
smb | BenC: Ok, I am currently also checking something else towards that and will send that around on the kernel mailing list as soon as I have something. | 14:53 |
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amitk | BenC: wrt. LUM, I've got a couple of changes in git now that I'd like to get in today. Or were you planning only a | 15:46 |
amitk | ...'give back' | 15:46 |
BenC | amitk: No, I was doing an upload from git...I'll pull in your changes too | 15:46 |
amitk | BenC: great, thanks. | 15:47 |
dantalizing | BenC: I was just wondering what the status on the openvz patches is. I understood they would be loaded last friday. | 16:29 |
dantalizing | just curious | 16:30 |
abogani | cking: Are you around? Are you already working on #177634? | 16:44 |
abogani | cking: I'm already working on it: Can i assign this bug to myself? | 16:46 |
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cking | abogani: I've only just assigned myself on it .. | 16:49 |
cking | ..not sure if you can assign yourself to it. | 16:51 |
abogani | cking: Yes i can. | 16:54 |
cking | abogani: Ok then, take it from me. :-) | 17:02 |
abogani | cking: Thank you! :-) | 17:03 |
cking | abogani: no problem, you are doing me a favour! | 17:05 |
abogani | cking: It is my little contribution. ;) | 17:06 |
cking | abogani: every little helps | 17:06 |
abogani | :- | 17:06 |
abogani | :-) | 17:06 |
abogani | cking: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-March/002198.html | 17:14 |
cking | abogani: is it tested? :-} | 17:16 |
abogani | cking: Yes. | 17:16 |
cking | abogani: thanks! | 17:16 |
abogani | cking: I enabled lzma kernel module on i386 and amd64 only. | 17:16 |
cking | abogani: yes, should it be broadened to all supported architectures? | 17:18 |
abogani | cking: Sorry! I can test it only on i386/amd64 platforms. There Isn't exotic hardware here. :-( | 17:19 |
cking_ | abogani: I walk on the safe side, maybe we'll see if BenC OK's it on all architectures. | 17:20 |
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abogani | Good night guys! :-) | 17:26 |
BenC | cking_: It's a little late for that sort of patch | 17:42 |
BenC | cking_: Don't want to introduce anything that can especially affect live-cd | 17:42 |
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cking_ | BenC: OK - won't pull it then. | 18:09 |
sioux | hi :-) | 18:45 |
sioux | no one help me with saa7134_alsa: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_new | 18:45 |
sioux | ? | 18:45 |
sioux | this is my kernel 2.6.24-11-rt | 18:46 |
sioux | hey no one is up? | 18:56 |
_MMA_ | Or everyone's busy. | 18:56 |
_MMA_ | sioux: Best to file a bug though as the -rt maintainer is gone for the evening. | 19:00 |
_MMA_ | Oh. He left. | 19:01 |
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sioux | :-) | 19:35 |
sioux | :-D | 19:36 |
_MMA_ | sioux: Before you left I said its best to file a bug though as the -rt maintainer is gone for the evening. | 19:39 |
Nilbus | someone said they had /sys/power/pm_trace on a 64 bit kernel? | 20:15 |
Nilbus | oh, hmm | 20:16 |
Nilbus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/145860 | 20:16 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 145860 in linux "x86_64 kernel not compiled with PM_TRACE option" [Undecided,Fix released] | 20:16 |
Nilbus | x86_64 kernel not compiled with PM_TRACE option | 20:17 |
Kmos | hi | 20:42 |
Kmos | the latest kernel update on hardy killed my sound :( | 20:42 |
Kmos | 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40) | 20:42 |
_MMA_ | Kmos: Known. Use -11 for now. | 20:43 |
Kmos | the -11 worked fine | 20:43 |
Kmos | _MMA_: it's an known issue? nice.. do you know when there is an update for it? | 20:43 |
_MMA_ | Apparently it hit Fedora as well. No clue about a update. | 20:43 |
stgraber | Kmos: I saw a new linux-image building tw hours ago | 20:43 |
stgraber | *two | 20:43 |
Kmos | stgraber: nice :) | 20:44 |
Kmos | i'll wait so =) | 20:44 |
Kmos | thanks for the info | 20:44 |
stgraber | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.24-12.20/+build/536089 "Enable CONFIG_SOUND at least, so alsa build in lum works | 20:44 |
Kmos | nice | 20:45 |
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TheMuso | Wow, it hit fedora as well? Ouch. | 21:36 |
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[diablo] | hi | 23:20 |
[diablo] | BenC, ok thanks.. right the problem is: | 23:21 |
[diablo] | I've put 8.04 on my laptop, and im experiencing a weird problem that is I seem to need to hold a key like ALT to keep it booting, and also sometimes in Gnome aswell | 23:21 |
[diablo] | I found that if I do an acpi=off | 23:21 |
[diablo] | it works well, no key holding, the neg being that my MadWifi drivers don't detect any AP's | 23:22 |
[diablo] | any ideas please? | 23:22 |
BenC | [diablo]: try using irqfixup, irqpoll, or biosirq for kernel command line | 23:24 |
[diablo] | with the acpi=off ? | 23:25 |
rico42955 | is there a channel to ask about the kernel and drivers? | 23:53 |
_MMA_ | rico42955: What's up? Sound issues? | 23:58 |
_MMA_ | ie: No sound with new kernel? | 23:59 |
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