[04:00] <thoughtfix> Evening
[04:05] <thoughtfix> Finally got my Q1 Ultra - trying to build myself an image. Let's hope it doesn't error out again
[04:38] <nrp> nice
[05:15] <thoughtfix> Hah... People live?
[05:20] <nrp> indeed
[05:33] <thoughtfix> So now - to make a build that actually works
[06:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:23] <dholbach> can somebody of the mobile team please take care of all the bluetooth uploads in the sponsoring queue?
[09:59] <MutantBC> hello
[10:00] <MutantBC> have you encounter Couldn't find package moblin-image-create after doing sudo apt-get install moblin-image-creator
[10:00] <MutantBC> ?
[10:00] <MutantBC> ??
[10:01] <MutantBC> ?
[10:01] <MutantBC> :(
[10:02] <MutantBC> anyone?
[10:25] <Mithrandir> dholbach: I'll poke at the bluetooth sponsorship bugs.
[10:26] <dholbach> Mithrandir: ROCK, thanks
[13:51] <mjg59> lool: Is there a moblin version of hildon-theme-layout anywhere? I haven't been able to find any patches other than the ones we ship.
[13:52] <mjg59> And the version we have is a native package :)
[15:30] <lool> mjg59: I don't know whether they have a moblin one; the most direct way to check is to look at their APT repo
[15:30] <lool> moblin.org/apt
[15:31] <lool> mjg59: Sorry, I was afk due to some raim in my living room, *cough*
[15:31] <mjg59> lool: No problem
[15:32] <mjg59> lool: Ok, looks like they don't.
[15:32] <mjg59> lool: I just need my ubuntu-mobile membership activated and I'll push this
[15:34] <Mithrandir> mjg59: I did that an hour ago.
[15:34] <mjg59> Mithrandir: Oh, really? Thanks
[15:34] <mjg59> I'll push now
[15:34] <Mithrandir> about 9 minutes after you applied, iirc.
[15:34] <mjg59> Heh
[15:35] <mjg59> Ok, done
[15:36] <mjg59> Oh, what's the format for the tagging?
[15:38] <lool> Good question; I'd say package version is fine
[15:38] <lool> As we're supposed to use different versionning schemes for different sources
[15:39] <mjg59> Upstream or ubuntu?
[15:40] <lool> I'd say Ubuntu
[15:41] <mjg59> Cool
[15:45] <davidm> mjg59, Mithrandir beat me by a minute....
[15:46] <mjg59> davidm: Heh
[15:46] <mjg59> Hm. bzr is unhappy. ERROR: Tags not supported by BzrBranch5
[15:46] <mjg59> Even after doing an upgrade
[15:46] <Mithrandir> davidm: you're getting old.
[15:47] <lool> mjg59: The remote branch my need an upgrade
[15:47] <lool> mjg59: I thought LP at switched to bzr 1.0
[15:48] <davidm> Mithrandir, I resemble that remark ;-)
[15:48] <Mithrandir> davidm: ;-)
[15:48] <Mithrandir> davidm: just be happy the alternative is much worse.
[15:49] <davidm> Mmmmm so true.
[15:49] <mjg59> Ah, I need to upgrade and push?
[15:49] <mjg59> Hm. No.
[15:49] <lool> mjg59: I'd say bzr upgrade lp:...
[15:50] <lool> But I didn't actually try it out
[15:50] <lool> lalala
[15:50] <mjg59> Heh
[15:50] <mjg59> No, it says that it's already up to date
[15:50] <lool> mjg59: Also, perhaps we need a special upgrade flag
[15:50] <mjg59> As in, the most recent format
[15:50] <lool> --dirstate-tags
[15:50] <mjg59> Nope, same error
[15:50] <mjg59> The branch format Bazaar-NG meta directory, format 1 is already at the most recent format.
[15:51] <lool> I fail to see how one gets tags support with LP
[15:51] <mjg59> He
[15:52] <mjg59> I need to head off for 10`minutes or so, back soon
[15:52] <lool> Ok, i'll try it on my side as well now
[15:52] <lool> As I hate giving stupid advice like I just did
[15:57] <lool> 3 minutes since starting upgrade of sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-mobile/hildon-theme-layout-4/ubuntu/
[15:57] <lool> hmm
[16:00] <mjg59> lool: Heh
[16:01] <lool> Oh some progress when you came back
[16:01] <mjg59> lool: Well, let me know if it looks like it's going to do anything useful :)
[16:01] <lool> Continue talking, it's progressing each time you write a line
[16:01] <lool> finished                                                                       
[16:01] <lool> It finished locally too
[16:01] <mjg59> Ok, success
[16:01] <mjg59> Created tag 0.15.8-1ubuntu1.
[16:02] <mjg59> Except that should be 0.14
[16:02] <mjg59> Oops
[16:02] <lool> How does one push tags only?
[16:03] <mjg59> How does one push tags at all?
[16:03] <lool> Yeah
[16:04] <lool>        Tags  are  stored  in  the  branch.  Tags are copied from one branch to
[16:04] <lool>        another along when you branch, push, pull or merge.
[16:04] <mjg59> Yeah, except I tried pushing and it said it was on the altest revision
[16:04] <lool> I wonder whether you need to fool it by having a rev to push
[16:04] <lool> Or perhaps it complains but it works
[16:05] <mjg59> Maybe
[16:05] <lool> Yeah, it works!
[16:05] <mjg59> Mm?
[16:05] <lool> mjg59: I upgraded an old checkout and got the 0.14.8-1ubuntu1 tag which one of us pushed
[16:05] <mjg59> Ah :)
[16:05] <mjg59> Ok, good enough
[16:05] <mjg59> Right, all it needs is uploading
[16:05] <mjg59> I'll get to that later
[16:06]  * lool tries a fresh branch
[16:09] <lool> mjg59: 0.14.8-1ubuntu1      167
[16:09] <lool> 0.15.8-1ubuntu1      167
[16:09] <lool> mjg59: Now please remove your tag :)
[16:09] <lool> bzr tag --delete I guess
[16:57] <lool> mjg59: I had a quick look at your commits, and I don't know whether you followed the discussions / rationale for the changes, but you did things perfectly; thanks!
[17:13] <smagoun> ChickenCutlass: what was the specific problem you ran into with image creator + the GID from the host?
[17:14] <ChickenCutlass> smagoun, never found out what the exact problem was -- other than you can not launch the network-admin gui due to a GID error from PolicyKit
[19:49] <instabin> Hello I would like to learn more about ubuntu mobile. Its it possiable to run on a dell axim x50v
[19:50] <instabin> Or is there another hardware device that I would need to buy?
[20:03] <nrp> instabin: x50v has an ARM CPU, so no Ubuntu Mobile.
[20:04] <instabin> nrp: what could i buy that I would be able to test it?
[20:05] <nrp> well, you can test it on any x86 computer, but i think most of the development is going into getting it running specifically on McCaslin and Menlow based computers
[20:06] <nrp> basically, any UMPC with an Intel CPU would do
[20:07] <nrp> though I imagine you could get it running fine on anything x86
[21:45] <smagoun> davidm: lool I assume that this week's meeting is still 1700UTC? (10am PDT/1pm EDT for those of us in the states)
[21:53] <davidm> smagoun, I'm waiting for Mauri to get back to me.  I'm inclined to keep it at 1700UTC but I'll move it if I have to.
[22:00] <smagoun> davidm: thanks. Please keep us posted
[22:01] <davidm> I'll be sending out the usual email either later today or tomorrow and I'll put the info at the top.
[22:21] <osantana_> lool: are you there?
[22:24] <lool> osantana_: Yes
[22:25] <lool> osantana_: But I wont see your /query or private messages unless you register with nickserv
[23:22] <rustyl_> davidm, you listening?
[23:23] <rustyl_> davidm, i'm not sure if we will be meeting today, but i need to drop in to the lab for a bit (away from my irc client)
[23:44] <davidm> rustyl_, NP, steve is not here as yet.
[23:52] <StevenK> rustyl_: I'm here.
[23:55]  * rustyl_ just returns from the lab
[23:56] <StevenK> rustyl_: Catching up on e-mail.
[23:56] <StevenK> rustyl_: So, before this other thing, can I ask why you wanted MIC to pull from the snapshot by default?
[23:58] <rustyl_> StevenK, that is what we agreed to do at that sprint, it allows all the people that are not really working on hardy to use almost-hardy (instead of gutsy) and still be able to get their work done 
[23:58] <rustyl_> basically, be able to work on in a stable environment while doing application development
[23:58] <StevenK> rustyl_: But I'd rather not have a MIC in hardy that pulls from the snapshot
[23:59] <rustyl_> oh... i don't really care what thing in hardy does... just the latest greatest off the source tree
[23:59] <rustyl_> i don't think any of our guys are installing mic from hardy