| warren | sadmac, ping | 01:10 |
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| warren | sadmac, so upstart in fedora 9 is ignoring /etc/inittab. Where is it defined to run mingetty on VT1 through VT7? | 01:11 |
| sadmac | warren: upstart should ignore /etc/inittab . Check out /etc/event.d/tty* | 01:17 |
| warren | ok perfect, exactly what I needed. | 01:20 |
| warren | sadmac, btw, do you know how to run a root shell from /etc/event.d/tty* files? | 01:20 |
| warren | sadmac, i've been trying things like /usr/bin/openvt -c # -w -l /bin/bash | 01:21 |
| warren | that sort of works | 01:21 |
| sadmac | warren: thought of /bin/bash < /dev/tty# > /dev/tty# ?? It isn't pretty, but... | 01:22 |
| warren | oh | 01:22 |
| warren | sadmac, I tried a variation of that before, had no job control | 01:22 |
| warren | sadmac, is the TTY number available as a variable or something to the scripts of /etc/event.d/? | 01:22 |
| sadmac | warren: don't think so... not really applicable in most cases. | 01:23 |
| warren | sadmac, if a file in /etc/event.d/ is blanked out does it become a no op without breaking anything? | 01:26 |
| warren | sadmac, we have those files as %config(noreplace) in our event-compat-sysv package, which allows them to be edited and rpm upgrade wont blow away changes. however I can't delete files from there or rpm upgrade will restore it. | 01:26 |
| sadmac | warren: just about any syntax error causes the file to become a no-op :) so yeah | 01:29 |
| sadmac | Keybuk: around? | 01:32 |
| warren | sadmac, it will complain about it being empty? | 02:29 |
| sadmac | warren: no. It fails silently | 02:29 |
| warren | ok | 02:30 |
| warren | good enough | 02:30 |
| warren | sadmac, how does upstart know which runlevel to use by default? | 02:51 |
| warren | sadmac, 3 text mode 5 graphics | 02:51 |
| sadmac | warren: it appears we're still grepping that out of /etc/inittab (wanted to change that actually) | 02:52 |
| warren | sadmac, could you let me know when you change that? I have to adjust it elsewhere too. | 02:52 |
| sadmac | warren: I'll tell you if/when we do. | 02:53 |
| warren | thanks | 02:53 |
| warren | sadmac, which distro are you affiliated with? | 02:53 |
| sadmac | warren: fedora | 02:53 |
| warren | sadmac, oh, just wondering because you aren't hanging out in #fedora-devel | 02:53 |
| sadmac | warren: ...hmm...it seems I'm not | 02:54 |
| warren | sadmac, we might also want to add something to our shipping /etc/inittab to tell people "not here!" | 02:55 |
| warren | sadmac, I wonder how many things parsed /etc/inittab and would be broken | 02:55 |
| sadmac | warren: that must happen. If we do get the default runlevel out of there we can just blow that file away (then start fixing things as they break) | 02:56 |
| warren | sadmac, write a fuse filesystem module to provide a /etc/inittab that is put together in real-time based upon /etc/event.d? =) | 02:58 |
| sadmac | warren: hell yeah | 03:07 |
| warren | sadmac, sorry, I just said that bad idea for shock value. | 03:08 |
| sadmac | warren: no no. thats the way to go. We can do it in java too. | 03:08 |
| sadmac | warren: and we'll offer the ability to cluster your inittab processing while we're at it. And encryption, | 03:09 |
| warren | oh god | 03:09 |
| warren | you're worse than me | 03:10 |
| sadmac | :) | 03:17 |
| Keybuk | sadmac: yup, vaguely around (little busy today) | 13:59 |
| sadmac_ | Keybuk: what is the profiles implementation plan looking like (if any)? My thought would be to send the "startup" event only to jobs listed in the active profile | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | there's a bzr branch for that I think | 14:23 |
| Keybuk | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alex-extreme2/upstart/profiles | 14:25 |
| Keybuk | (bzr merge --preview to see the resulting diff) | 14:25 |
| Keybuk | it looks like it simply ignores all start events for disabled jobs | 14:26 |
| Keybuk | which is the right thing to do I think | 14:27 |
| sadmac_ | Keybuk: sounds good | 14:58 |
| AlexExtreme | that branch is horribly outdated, however ;) | 16:06 |
| Keybuk | well, yes ;) | 16:15 |
| sadmac_ | AlexExtreme: so what is it that makes you more extreme than other Alexes? | 16:43 |
| sadmac_ | (Alexi?) | 16:43 |
| AlexExtreme | heh, well. I've been meaning to change my nick sometime. I registered this nick *ages* ago when I first used IRC, and since Alex was taken I wanted something to stick on the end of it, "Extreme" was the first word I saw (was on a magazine on my desk IIRC), so it kinda stuck and now I use it for lots of things | 16:45 |
| Keybuk | heh, nobody can ever change their nickname once it's stuck ;) | 16:46 |
| ion_ | sadmac: What is it that makes you sadder than other macs? :-) | 16:46 |
| * AlexExtreme points at *the* Sad Mac icon | 16:47 | |
| sadmac_ | ion_: my first person shooter name was sAdIsTiCmAcHiNe. sadmac was the inevitable shortening everyone stuck with, and was more polite. | 16:47 |
| sadmac_ | now and again I go by madsac for a bit. | 16:48 |
| AlexExtreme | I try to use Alex where possible now | 16:49 |
| sadmac_ | Keybuk: for that matter, what's a keybuk? | 16:50 |
| ion_ | keybuk.com from MS-DOS | 16:50 |
| sadmac_ | ah. | 16:51 |
| sadmac_ | what's different on a UK keyboard? Apart from easier access to the GBP symbol? | 16:52 |
| Keybuk | UK keyboard didn't get some of the changes the US keyboard did | 16:53 |
| Keybuk | so is still in ASCII order | 16:53 |
| Keybuk | our shift-number punctuation is !"$%^&*() | 16:53 |
| Keybuk | at some point, US keyboards swapped " and @ around | 16:54 |
| Keybuk | we have an extra key | 16:54 |
| Keybuk | and a larger return key | 16:54 |
| sadmac_ | Heh. Wikipedia labels the Super key as the "win key" | 16:56 |
| sadmac_ | "Press here to win" | 16:56 |
| * AlexExtreme despises the fact that keyboard manufacturers put a windows logo on there | 16:56 | |
| sadmac_ | AlexExtreme: You can get keyboards without it. My boss' has a diamond. | 16:57 |
| AlexExtreme | yeah, but most have it. I've seen ones with linux penguins (made by Cherry IIRC) | 16:58 |
| Keybuk | the key didn't exist at all until it was the Windows keys | 16:58 |
| sadmac_ | AlexExtreme: There's this solution http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8396/ | 16:58 |
| AlexExtreme | hah, yes | 16:58 |
| sadmac_ | to class! | 17:00 |
| ion_ | http://johan.kiviniemi.name/pictures/keyboard/keyboard-01/original | 17:04 |
| Keybuk | I'm surprised Cherry don't just sell the individual keys | 17:04 |
| Keybuk | but I guess there's not much profit in that | 17:04 |
| sadmac_ | Keybuk: is UPSTART_EVENT set in post_stop? | 19:45 |
| sadmac_ | Keybuk: looks like it is from my test | 19:50 |
| sadmac_ | Md: what does your quit message mean? | 20:36 |
| Md | I have many | 20:39 |
| sadmac_ | Md: "odium turbae sanabit solitudo, taedium solitudinis turba" | 20:39 |
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