[02:49] <netfract> Anybody here knows if the marketing team has it's own channel ?
[02:52] <jamesh> netfract: which marketing team?
[02:52] <netfract> Ubuntu marketing team
[02:52] <jamesh> it might.  Why are you asking here?
[02:53] <netfract> is it the chanel for the ubuntu Launchpad ?
[02:53] <jamesh> it is the channel for Launchpad
[02:53] <netfract> i know, my question is sort of related
[02:53] <jamesh> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam the channel you want is #ubuntu-marketing
[02:53] <netfract> are you guys handeling the mirrors as well ?
[02:54] <jamesh> you probably want to ask that on one of the Ubuntu channels
[02:54] <netfract> i have been told to refer to the Launchpad team if i want to setupan official mirror
[02:54] <jamesh> ah.
[02:54] <netfract> wrong info ?
[02:55] <jamesh> netfract: try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+newmirror
[02:55] <jamesh> netfract: fill in the details there, and your mirror can be added to the list
[02:57] <netfract> ok, but i have questions regarding official mirror compliance, i tried to contact somebody by e-mail but i never got an answer
[02:57] <netfract> is there a channel on freenode where i could refer for that matter ?
[02:57] <Fujitsu> netfract: #ubuntu-mirror, perhaps.
[02:57] <Fujitsu> Or -mirrors. I forget.
[02:58] <netfract> thanks a million
[07:35] <carlos> morning
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #200890 in malone "Please improve field.status_upstream=resolved_upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200890
[07:53] <mdke> carlos: morning! Did you have any luck with those po file imports we discussed?
[07:53] <carlos> mdke: well, I suck, I didn't have time to handle it yet... :-(
[07:53] <mdke> no worries
[07:53] <carlos> mdke: I'm going to do it right now, so I don't delay it anymore...
[07:53] <mdke> carlos: :) 
[07:54] <mdke> awesome
[09:21] <carlos> mdke: Hi, I'm ready to start doing uploads
[09:21] <carlos> (the checkout took a while.. even with a lightweight checkout...
[09:22] <carlos> mdke: and I want to warn you about something
[09:22] <carlos> if someone did a new translation, I will disable it
[09:32] <ubotu> New bug: #200910 in launchpad "Should Ubuntu uploads be able to close bugs in projects using changelog-closes-bugs too?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200910
[09:49] <kiko> mdke, is ubuntu-docs a native package, similar to ubiquity, in the sense that it doesn't make releases outside of ubuntu?
[11:05] <carlos> kiko: as far as I know, yes
[11:07] <kiko> hmm
[11:49] <Hobbsee> kiko: late mail replies ftw.  4 month replies is pretty good for carrier pidgeons. :)
[11:51] <kiko> Hobbsee, hey, some of us have a life you know?? :)
[11:51] <Hobbsee> kiko: what are they?
[11:51]  * Hobbsee doesn't appear to have one
[11:51]  * Hobbsee wonders how one obtains a life
[11:52] <kiko> Hobbsee, I'm not sure either, but I have read about these people in magazines and on websites
[11:53] <Hobbsee> kiko: oh, hmmm.
[12:07] <ubotu> New bug: #200947 in malone "Change the ExternalBugTracker API to use remote bug ids instead of bug watches" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200947
[12:28] <Hobbsee> so, how do bugs have a location?  am i searching for all bugs located in india, or something?
[12:32] <kiko> Hobbsee, that's shorthand for target?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> kiko: but what's a target, and hwo is it different from a milestone?
[12:37] <kiko> Hobbsee, project or distro
[12:39] <Hobbsee> kiko: i don't understand, but OK.
[12:39]  * Hobbsee doesn't appear to understand a lot of the LP bug terminology for non-distro projects, not having a substantial amount of time attempting to decode the names, and figure out which values are to go in which boxes.
[13:07] <mok0> I need a bit of help importing into LP bazaar
[13:08] <mok0> I am trying to import my project tree into LP, and I get this message:
[13:08] <mok0> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[13:09] <Hobbsee> mok0: are you a part of the group?
[13:10] <mok0> eeerr, what group?
[13:10] <mok0> I could create the project
[13:11] <LarstiQ> mok0: could you give the full commandline you are trying?
[13:11] <LarstiQ> it sounds like you are pushing to http or some such
[13:11] <mok0> bzr push lp:~mok0/udist/trunk
[13:11] <LarstiQ> mok0: right
[13:12] <LarstiQ> arguably, that should work
[13:12] <mok0> I created a clean tree with my code, then: bzr init; bzr add .
[13:12] <mok0> and then the push command
[13:12] <LarstiQ> mok0: but right now that won't. Instead: bzr push sftp://mok0@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mok0/udist/trunk
[13:12]  * mok0 tries
[13:13] <mok0> bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://mok0@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mok0/udist/trunk": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko
[13:13] <kiko> Hobbsee, a bugtask is open on a distro or an upstream project, right?
[13:13] <kiko> mok0, you missing paramiko!
[13:13] <andrea-bs> mok0: bzr+ssh://...
[13:14] <Hobbsee> kiko: yes
[13:14] <mok0> Yes, bzr+ssh worked! Thanks!
[13:15] <mok0> Now I just need to figure out how to use bazaar :-)
[13:15] <kiko> Hobbsee, so "target" and "location" are a way to referring to "the task's project-or-distro"
[13:16] <mok0> Anyway, the description LP gives when registering a project is obviously incorrect
[13:16] <andrea-bs> mok0: read the tutorial on <http://bazaar-vcs.org>, it's very easy ;)
[13:16] <Hobbsee> kiko: right, so it's a split between "stuff reported on a project" and "stuff reported on a distro".  Got it, but i don't see how it's useful
[13:16] <mok0> andrea-bs: thx
[13:23] <mok0> Hen, bzr reminds a lot of git
[13:39] <kiko> Hobbsee, what's the answer to Tom's question in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/195953 btw?
[13:41] <Hobbsee> kiko: 1) bug the debian guy to update, and 2) bug the ubuntu guy who's uploaded it.
[13:41] <Hobbsee> if it's mroe than bugfixes, it'll need a uvfe
[13:42] <kiko> yeah
[13:42] <Hobbsee> or get someoen else to do the work, and do the uvfe
[13:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 195953 in wacom-tools "Tablet input resolution tied to display resolution" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[13:57] <ubotu> New bug: #200992 in launchpad "Incorrect text in bugtrackers link: Bug #123 in bugzilla.gnome.org" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200992
[14:00] <Hobbsee> oh wow
[14:00] <Hobbsee> kiko: well done!
[14:01] <Hobbsee> kiko: i can actually use the also affects stuff without getting very confused and pulling out my hair now.
[14:03] <kiko> Hobbsee, neat. let me show you a screenshot in a bit -- I'm working on an improvement to it
[14:03] <kiko> and would like feedback 
[14:03] <Hobbsee> woot :)
[14:27] <tdoggette> Our dev group, launchpad.net/~gasp-dev , is beta testing the mailing list. It sends out the bug reports and questions and so on automatically, but not emails sent to the list. How can we get that working?
[14:47] <ubotu> New bug: #201010 in malone "Keyboard blocked, nvidia or xorg problems?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201010
[14:49] <ubotu> New bug: #193324 in meta-lp-deps "Require dpkg and lzma dependencies on launchpad-dependencies pacakge" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193324
[15:01] <ubotu> New bug: #201016 in launchpad "Convert all remaining incoming mail warnings and errors to OOPSes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201016
[15:02] <ubotu> New bug: #201015 in malone "Search for bugs with bzr branches available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201015
[15:16] <Andymeows> anyone know of a good project that needs some development?
[15:22] <kiko-fud> Andymeows, how about launchpad-cscvs? :)
[15:23] <Andymeows> what's that?
[15:23] <kiko-fud> launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs
[15:24] <Andymeows> launchpad's cvs backend?
[15:24] <kiko-fud> our code import backend!
[15:25] <soren> kiko-fud: Funny. It tooks *months* before I realised that "kiko-fud" didn't mean that you were out spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. :)
[15:25] <kiko-fud> I am!
[15:26] <soren> You do that a lot :)
[15:38] <ubotu> New bug: #201021 in launchpad "Mentoring should be at project owner's discretion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201021
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #201043 in malone "bug contact can not change importance.  help text claims it can" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201043
[16:39] <wbrady> Can someone please help me make my project intro2it a super-project
[16:40] <wbrady> I have asked the question in launchpad itself
[16:40] <wbrady> it's question #25435
[17:45] <wewek> hello
[17:48] <kiko> hey there
[17:50] <matsubara> kiko: can you help wbrady?
[17:51] <kiko> matsubara, sure, will do.
[17:54] <qense> I've been working on a branch and when I wanted to commit it using Olive, Olive crashed
[17:54] <qense> and after that there were lock dirs created, so I deleted them all
[17:54] <qense> locally and at the branch using the ssh:// protocol in nautilus
[17:54] <qense> but now I get this error: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp--1218228532:///~caws-dev/caws/trunk/.bzr/repositorylock): Permission denied: "This method is only for creating branches: /~caws-dev/caws/trunk/.bzr/repository/lock/m8kgsgak73.tmp"
[17:55] <qense> did I delete too much?
[17:55] <andrea-bs> qense: bzr break-lock URL
[17:55] <qense> ok, thx
[17:56] <andrea-bs> but I'm not sure this will work
[17:56] <qense> I still get the same error after successfully executing the commnad
[17:57] <qense> solved!
[17:57] <andrea-bs> great
[17:57] <qense> I've recreated the directory lock in .bzr/branch and .bzr/repository at the ssh://
[18:03] <kiko> qense, andrea-bs: sometimes you need to break-lock multiple times. I don't understand why either.
[18:03] <andrea-bs> kiko: thanks!
[18:03] <kiko> I'm asking on #bzr btw
[18:04] <andrea-bs> I'm reading
[18:11] <kiko> does anyone know the answer to https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26223 -- it has to do with @ubuntu.com emails.
[18:15] <matsubara> kiko: someone from #is need to take care of that. elmo likely
[18:15] <kiko> always? ok, asking there
[18:43] <homunqlus> I am interested in an API to launchpad's translation data, I googled it, and I found an IRC log from this channel that by pure coincidence is exactly 1 year old today
[18:43] <homunqlus> where somebody said "don't quote me but I think you can look at launchpad code under NDA."
[18:44] <homunqlus> is that true?
[18:45] <kiko> homunqlus, it's true; it's pretty complicated though
[18:45] <kiko> otoh
[18:45] <kiko> translation APIs aren't available yet, and they are targeted only for post-July
[18:46] <homunqlus> post-july: that means "some day but not in the next version" or does it really mean that they will happen for September?
[18:48] <homunqlus> kiko: NDA: link?
[18:48] <kiko> there's no link. it's a process.
[18:48] <kiko> it means after July, and probably not September.
[19:08] <RainCT> Hi
[19:09] <RainCT> I'm trying to upload a tarball but Launchpad keeps saying "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."
[19:10] <RainCT> (I reported the same problem here something like 1 month ago)
[19:12] <ubotu> New bug: #201112 in launchpad "Allow sprint to have a mailing list" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201112
[19:12] <qense> where are you trying to upload the tar?
[19:12] <RainCT> qense: https://edge.launchpad.net/freevial/gresca/1.2/+adddownloadfile
[19:17] <qense> sorry for my late reply
[19:17] <qense> you could try to report a bug
[19:18] <qense> I think that's the best option
[19:19] <qense> if the pacakge needs to be there very soon you could open a question in answers to ask launchpad to upload the tar
[19:19] <kiko-afk> RainCT, did bac not give you some assistance back then?
[19:19] <kiko-afk> but qense is right, it's best to open a question in Answers
[19:20] <RainCT> kiko-afk: I don't remember who it was (switched IRC client, so no logs), but he only asked me at which hours it failed
[19:20] <RainCT> Launchpad accepted the tarball on the 4th or 5th try..
[19:20] <bac> RainCT: hi.  yes i was one of the people who helped to diagnose the problem.
[19:21] <bac> we've opened a bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/194558
[19:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194558 in launchpad "Project file uploads time-out but don't OOPS" [Undecided,New] 
[19:22] <bac> RainCT: may i ask where you live?  it seems to be a connectivity problem.  your connection to our apache server is being dropped at some point during the file upload
[19:22] <RainCT> bac: Catalonia, connection is with a 3G modem
[19:24] <bac> RainCT: there is no need to open a new question in answers.  if you'd like to add a comment to that but it would be helpful for us.  unfortunately i don't have a quick answer for how you can solve the problem with the connection being dropped.
[19:25] <bac> s/to that but/ to that bug/
[19:46] <RainCT> and you said there's no other way to upload the tarball beside the web interface? :(
[19:53] <qense> I go, bye
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #201121 in malone "Option to delete comments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201121
[20:03] <ubotu> New bug: #201122 in launchpad "Cannot link teams to a project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201122
[20:04] <ubotu> New bug: #201125 in launchpad "Some teams should require authorization for their creation." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201125
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #201137 in launchpad "commiting to a launchpad bzr branch should give you karma" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201137
[20:31] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[20:31] <marianom> hi everyone. I need to verify if someone is an ubuntero. however I cannot find this info where I used to
[20:39] <mpt> marianom, it's in the "Summary" section on the right of the person's page
[20:40] <mpt> e.g. <https://launchpad.net/~marplatense> says "Ubuntero: Yes"
[20:40] <mpt> Just out of interest, why do you need to verify this?
[20:41] <marianom> mpt: it's a rule sine qua non to enter the ubuntu-ar launchpad group
[20:41] <marianom> somebody is asking to be admitted and I need to verify it
[20:42] <mpt> ok
[20:42] <marianom> mpt: I cannot find it. sorry I'm sure it's right in front of my eyes
[20:43] <mpt> interesting
[20:43] <mpt> ok, go to <https://launchpad.net/~marplatense>
[20:43] <beuno> marianom, if they didn't sign it, it's just not there
[20:43] <mpt> Do you see the "Summary" section?
[20:43] <marianom> ahh, ok, now I see. thanks beuno, mpt
[20:44] <beuno> :D
[20:44] <beuno> mpt, there used to be a No/Yes bit there
[20:44] <marianom> he did not sign it, that's why (I think it used to say yes/no in the past)
[20:44] <beuno> so that might be a bit confusing
[20:44] <mpt> oh, I see the problem
[20:44]  * mpt is looking at the code
[20:44] <mpt> We say "Ubuntero: No" only if you're looking at your own page
[20:44] <marianom> ok, cool then. thanks guys
[20:44] <mpt> but "Ubuntero: Yes", for someone who has signed it, regardless of who they are
[20:45] <mpt> This is because many people who use Launchpad don't use Ubuntu
[20:45] <mpt> so whether they're an Ubuntero isn't relevant
[20:45] <mpt> hmm
[20:45] <beuno> ah, right
[20:45] <beuno> that makes sense
[20:48] <mpt> I wonder if there's a way to solve that problem
[20:49] <beuno> mpt, maybe for the users that are involved in ubunto projects show "no"?   I relaize you rpobably don't have a way of telling, but...
[20:49] <beuno> ...I don't have to write the code  :p
[20:50] <mpt> Sure we do, we have karma
[20:50] <mpt> e.g. Ubuntu shows up in the "Most active in" section on your page
[20:50] <beuno> there ya; go
[20:50] <beuno> although, you might ahve to tip-toe around some use cases
[20:50] <beuno> like the one marianom was trying to address
[20:51] <beuno> a newly registered user that wants to join a team
[20:51] <mpt> A chicken-and-egg problem
[20:51] <beuno> which happens to requiere you ahving signed the CoC
[20:51] <beuno> yeap
[20:52] <beuno> you might want to take into account if they requested to join ubuntu-related teams
[20:52] <mpt> Can't be active in Ubuntu until you've joined the team, can't join the team until you're shown as having signed the CoC, won't be shown unless you've been active in Ubuntu...
[20:53] <beuno> although I'm not sure how you would know that the ubuntu-ar team is an explicit part of Ubuntu
[20:54] <mpt> yeah
[20:54] <mpt> *bunt*
[20:55] <beuno> ah, that would work
[21:58] <Ubulette> what's happening with the i386 ppa builders ? they are no building anything yet they claim to be idle/auto
[22:16] <cpro1> Ubulette: something is wrong with https://edge.launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/+build/536548
[22:17] <cpro1> Ubulette: it causes builders to fail due to a segfault
[22:17] <Ubulette> oh
[22:21] <mdke> kiko-afk: yes; except for the releases made to the website. But we focus on releases in the package for most bugs
[22:23] <Ubulette> cpro1, any ETA for a fix ?
[22:24] <cpro1> Ubulette: workaround for the problem is done, the mentioned build was marked as superseded and further details are in 201001
[22:24] <cpro1> Ubulette: no, sorry, I can't say much anything precise at 11:30 pm ...
[22:25] <cpro1> I meant, bug 201001
[22:25] <Ubulette> ok
[22:25] <Ubulette> ubotu is tired too :P
[22:25] <cpro1> where is our lazy bot ?
[22:26] <cpro1> anyway, bed time... g'night all
[22:26] <Ubulette> lagging
[22:26] <Ubulette> night, thanks
[22:30] <Munksgaar1> Does anyone have a good guide that will get me started translating .po/.mo files? All i get when i download it is an empty file without any strings to translate :(
[22:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201001 in soyuz "Handling BuilderFail slave status" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201001 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is tired too :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:46] <mpt> wtf ubotu 
[22:47] <mwhudson> ran-dom
[22:48] <mdke> he's just really lagged, that was a response to half an hour ago
[22:50] <ubotu> New bug: #201217 in malone "Search does not find bug with word in subject" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201217