[00:11] <gretsch> hello
[00:12] <soundray> Hi
[00:12] <gretsch> thanks for the help
[00:12] <gretsch> tom here
[00:12] <soundray> What does 'mount' say?
[00:12] <gretsch> Mar 10 19:09:11 BigLaptop NetworkManager: <debug> [1205194151.079139] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part_1_size_4220223488').
[00:12] <gretsch> well, i didn't get output when i did the mount | grep cdrom
[00:13] <soundray> Okay
[00:13] <soundray> What kind of CD are you inserting?
[00:13] <gretsch> dvd
[00:13] <soundray> Audio, video, data?
[00:13] <gretsch> vido
[00:13] <gretsch> video
[00:14] <soundray> !dvd
[00:14] <ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:14] <gretsch> i burned it myself, and it works if i juset mount the cdrom as sudo from the console
[00:14] <gretsch> i used Totem
[00:15] <gretsch> i think i did, anyway
[00:15] <soundray> gretsch: in the Removable... dialog, did you enable 'Play Video DVD' on the Multimedia tab?
[00:15] <gretsch> y
[00:16] <gretsch> totem %m
[00:17] <gretsch> and the "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged" is checked
[00:17] <gretsch> as are ALL the boxes in that section
[00:18] <soundray> gretsch: so in summary, you have a DVD that won't be mounted or played automatically, but plays when you mount it on the command line
[00:18] <gretsch> and i have the disk mounter up in the menu bar
[00:18] <gretsch> exactly
[00:18] <gretsch> and i cannot mount as user
[00:18] <gretsch> so is it a permissions thing?
[00:19] <gretsch> because when i select the "mount CD..." option from the little "mount disk" icon
[00:19] <soundray> gretsch: if you call totem from the terminal, while the DVD is not mounted, and you click Movie - Play Disc -- does that  work?
[00:19] <gretsch> as user...
[00:19] <gretsch> it tells me i must be sudo to mount
[00:20] <gretsch> as user?
[00:20] <gretsch> as user, it tells me the same
[00:20] <gretsch> "cannot mount volume"
[00:21] <soundray> gretsch: are you in the cdrom group? Check with 'groups'
[00:21] <gretsch> mount: must be superuser to mount volume
[00:21] <gretsch> hmmm.... there *is* no cdrom group!
[00:21] <soundray> There must be
[00:22] <gretsch> haldaemon?
[00:22] <soundray> Can you run 'sudo adduser $USER cdrom'?
[00:22] <gretsch> otherwise, no 'cdrom' group
[00:23] <gretsch> ok
[00:23] <gretsch> tells me i am already a member of cdrom
[00:23] <gretsch> but that group does not show up
[00:23] <soundray> Does not show up where?
[00:24] <gretsch> in the groups list
[00:24] <gretsch> System > Admin > Users and Groups
[00:24] <soundray> 'grep cdrom /etc/group'
[00:25] <gretsch> cdrom:x:24:haldaemon,tom,root,megan
[00:25] <soundray> The dialog  only lists groups where you're not already a member. So that's all fine.
[00:26] <soundray> Do you know your DVD drive device name? /dev/...
[00:26] <gretsch> it's /dev/cdrom
[00:26] <gretsch> that's how i mount it
[00:26] <gretsch> as ... sudo mount /dev/cdrom
[00:26] <soundray> gretsch: what is it *really*? find out with 'ls -l /dev/cdrom'?
[00:27] <gretsch> scd0
[00:27] <gretsch> all rwx
[00:27] <gretsch> btw
[00:27] <soundray> What does 'ls -l /dev/scd0' say?
[00:27] <soundray> Symbolic links are always all-rwx
[00:27] <gretsch> ah ha
[00:27] <gretsch> that's the issue
[00:28] <gretsch> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-03-10 06:33 /dev/scd0
[00:28] <gretsch> need chmod 777?
[00:28] <soundray> no, that's what it should be
[00:28] <gretsch> damn
[00:28] <gretsch> lol
[00:29] <gretsch> well, i can certainly just mount it as sudo and then use it
[00:29] <gretsch> and then umount when finished
[00:29] <soundray> You could add a 'users' option for the fstab entry, then you can 'mount /dev/cdrom' as user
[00:29] <gretsch> but i thought there must be an ok
[00:29] <gretsch> ok
[00:30] <soundray> Sorry I didn't have a _real_ fix for you
[00:30] <gretsch> what's that file path?
[00:31] <soundray> /etc/fstab
[00:31] <gretsch> ok its open in gedit
[00:31] <gretsch> as sudo
[00:31] <soundray> Mine says
[00:31] <soundray> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[00:31] <gretsch> mine too
[00:32] <soundray> So you should be able to 'mount /media/cdrom0' or 'mount /dev/scd0' as user
[00:32] <soundray> btw, never open gedit with sudo -- use gksudo instead
[00:32] <soundray> !gksu
[00:32] <ubotwo> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[00:34] <gretsch> i cannot mount as user from the command line
[00:34] <soundray> What does it  say?
[00:34] <gretsch> tom@BigLaptop:~$ mount /dev/cdrom
[00:34] <gretsch> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[00:35] <soundray> Read me carefully -- you must use mount /dev/scd0
[00:35] <soundray> or the mount point, but not the symbolic link
[00:35] <gretsch> same answer
[00:36] <soundray> No typo?
[00:36] <gretsch> tom@BigLaptop:~$ mount /dev/scd0
[00:36] <gretsch> mount: must be superuser to use mount
[00:36] <soundray> How about mount /media/cdrom0 ?
[00:37] <gretsch> same
[00:38] <soundray> It's as if mount was ignoring fstab
[00:38] <gretsch> i am reading that link ubotwo, thanks!
[00:38] <soundray> You didn't create a fat32 or ext3 filesystem on the CD by any chance?
[00:39] <gretsch> hmmm
[00:39] <soundray> The bot appreciates your gratitude
[00:39] <gretsch> lol
[00:39] <gretsch> the old bot
[00:39] <gretsch> i *did* make these DVDs on a windows machine
[00:39] <gretsch> maybe that's an issue?
[00:39] <soundray> Let's see
[00:39] <gretsch> probably fat32
[00:40] <soundray> Do a 'sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 && mount | grep cdrom'
[00:40] <gretsch> got a prompt
[00:41] <soundray> 'mount | grep cdrom' again?
[00:41] <gretsch> root@BigLaptop:~# sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 && mount | grep cdrom'
[00:41] <gretsch> >
[00:41] <soundray> Ctrl-C -- you copied a ' mark by mistake
[00:42] <gretsch> tom@BigLaptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 && mount | grep cdrom
[00:42] <gretsch> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[00:42] <gretsch> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro)
[00:42] <gretsch> and of course it's mounted
[00:43] <soundray> Okay, that explains why it doesn't autoplay: DVDs are normally iso9660 and not udf
[00:43] <gretsch> ok
[00:43] <gretsch> let me grab another disk and try it
[00:43] <gretsch> something commercially made
[00:43] <soundray> But it doesn't explain why it won't mount as user
[00:44] <soundray> Still, better than nothing
[00:45] <gretsch> cannot mount a commercial CD either
[00:45] <gretsch> tom@BigLaptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 && mount | grep cdrom
[00:45] <gretsch> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[00:45] <gretsch> /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)
[00:45] <gretsch> iso9660 but still not mountable
[00:45] <gretsch> as you said
[00:46] <soundray> But that output says that it does mount
[00:46] <gretsch> because i sudo mounted it
[00:46] <gretsch> yes
[00:47] <gretsch> i meant it won't mount as user from the menu icon
[00:47] <soundray> All right
[00:47] <gretsch> in other words, i did it from the console
[00:48] <soundray> I'm out of ideas now
[00:48] <gretsch> lol
[00:48] <gretsch> well, i guess i have gotten enough practice mounting from the console line
[00:48] <gretsch> thanks for the effort!
[00:49] <soundray> yw
[00:49] <gretsch> nice place to hang out, this channel
[00:49] <gretsch> talk to you later