[00:23] Riddell: I'll look at it tomorrow. please ping me after lunch. heading to bed now [00:34] can anyone here spare a moment to help get me started contributing to ubuntu as a developer? [00:35] essial: #ubuntu-motu is probably where you want to be. [00:35] thats what I was looking for! thanks [00:42] Hrm. Rsync server seems to be struggling a bit. [02:11] Hmm. Some reason current hardy won't load the sound alsa modules for my driver on one of my machines. Spews out about unknown symbols in nearly all of the alsa modules. [02:12] wasabi: Known issue. I new kernel is being rolled. [02:12] Ahh. OKay. [02:12] <_MMA_> wasabi: Update. Should be fixed now. [02:12] Upgrade new machine to hardy, and hit it on a day something is broken. =) [02:14] wasabi: yeah I ran into that earlier today; quite amusing :) [02:23] anyone know how to fix the timezone stuff in hardy to work for the US? [02:24] * calc looks to see if there are any updated packages to fix it [02:29] calc: What needs fixing? [02:30] it still thinks i am CST (US Central) its CDT (US Central Daylight) now [02:30] i thought that was updated several releases ago [02:30] It switched correctly for me. [02:30] I'm not in CST though. [02:31] johanbr: the US changed the date switchover a while back [02:31] so i am confused why it is affecting me [02:31] lamont: ping [02:31] oh he just timed out reconnected [02:31] I know. As did Canada. [02:32] ah you are in canada :) [02:33] calc: nixternal is in your timezone and runs hardy. We should check with him ... [02:34] i'm CST too nad run hardy [02:34] had no problems with mine [02:34] nixternal: ping [02:34] superm1: oh [02:34] hmm, i'll rerun the time setup program [02:34] calc, what timezone do you currently have listed in /etc/timezone? [02:34] I just put America/Chicago [02:34] . [02:35] yea that [02:35] hm [02:35] what the hell [02:35] Therefore TZ='America/Chicago' will be used. [02:35] Local time is now: Mon Mar 10 21:35:11 CDT 2008. [02:35] Universal Time is now: Tue Mar 11 02:35:11 UTC 2008. [02:35] root@laptop-c2d:~# date -R [02:35] Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:35:22 -0600 [02:35] calc: yes, is this hardy/GNOME? [02:36] yea hardy/gnome [02:36] do you have the clock applet on your panel? [02:36] does Gnome hate the US? ;-) [02:36] yea [02:36] i'm on hardy/gnome too :) [02:36] right-click it, what does it give you for 'locations'? [02:36] eh, left-click rather [02:36] what's up? [02:36] london, uk and houston [02:36] wasabi calc [02:37] nixternal, you broke calc [02:37] way to go. [02:37] it got put as America/Monterrey for Houston [02:37] grr [02:37] yay! [02:37] calc: right, there you go :) [02:37] I got my tzupdate at 02:00 on Sunday [02:37] slangasek: why does that screw up root's idea of time? [02:37] none of the Windows boxes recognize the change in time, but Kubuntu did [02:38] calc: because when you choose a location from the clock applet, it uses policykit to set the timezone for the system :P [02:38] i'm pretty sure i had set it to america/chicago in the past as well [02:38] Hi. [02:38] Oh yeah, when I got into work this morning PolicyKit asked me to auth. [02:38] And then it changed my timezone. Wrongly. [02:38] slangasek: which overrides tzselect and /etc/timezone? [02:38] which makes it all the more annoying that the new clock UI is so cumbersome [02:39] It obviously WANTED to change something. Which confused me. I thought the timezone dealt with it and wouldn't need to be changed. [02:39] calc: yes [02:39] slangasek: eek, that sux :-\ [02:39] Apparently it sent me to America/Monterry. Which I am not in. Also I *hate* our usage of the city-based timezones. [02:39] I much prefered the good ol' days of US/Central [02:39] And not having to pick the city that sort of lined up with where I live. [02:39] wasabi: apparently cities is easier than determining if your location has screwed up timezone rules [02:39] eg Indiana ;-) [02:40] I see. Then somebody should add all possible cities. [02:40] =) [02:40] * superm1 nominates nixternal [02:40] how about if they first work on getting the panel to not segfault when you pick a city it doesn't like [02:40] Hehe. [02:40] * calc wonders why gconftool is using 100$ cpu [02:40] er 100% [02:40] By the way. THis should obviously Just Work if you have a gps. [02:40] OBVIOUSLY [02:41] Speaking of the clock, does anyone know where it gets the weather data? My weather is always off. [02:41] johanbr: weather.noaa.gov; mine's off too, it fails to match the information at the source website [02:41] An airport. [02:41] johanbr: type a city and hit find [02:41] <_MMA_> Ahh... So that's why there's that extra space to the side of the date. Looks odd though if you dont have a location set. Maybe weather/temp shouldnt be enabled by default? [02:41] johanbr: i missed the find button part at first [02:42] johanbr: I haven't figured out yet if it's a bug in libgweather or the panel, debugging your panel is a PITA [02:42] * calc somewhat dislikes it doesn't display all the same info as the weather app [02:42] so it reimplements it poorly [02:42] OMG [02:42] i just refound Houston and it set the Timezone back to America/Monterrey [02:42] so it is broken itself [02:43] * calc kicks gnome clock applet pos [02:43] calc: feel free to append to bug #199582 :) [02:43] Launchpad bug 199582 in gnome-panel "worldclock picks wrong timezone for Portland, OR" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199582 [02:44] great :-) the I HATE GNOME thread, lol [02:45] I don't hate GNOME, just the new clock that doesn't work right [02:46] heh [02:46] * calc was joking [02:48] * ScottK2 doesn't hate Gnome either. He just doesn't use it. [02:50] I hate Gnome, but it’s not as if there are any viable alternatives. ;-) [02:50] The Portland part of that bug is somewhat hypothetical, since Portland and Vancouver *are* in the same time zone. [02:50] * TheMuso watches as the can of worms is opened up. [02:50] johanbr: no, they're not [02:51] Sure they are. [02:51] Portland is in America/Los_Angeles, Vancouver is in America/Vancouver. [02:51] Which, as far as timekeeping is concerned, are identical. [02:51] calc: Why is Houston America/Monterrey? Won't Mexico have different TZ rules? [02:53] Is it just me, or is cdimage quite busy/slow atm? [02:54] johanbr: The two zones are *currently* in sync. They have not been, historically. [02:54] TheMuso: it was shaky for me the last week already ... havent snced since friday though [02:54] *synced [02:54] ScottK2: that is the bug [02:55] * calc rereads his message [02:56] yea i wrote it correctly [02:56] gnome suggests monterrey it should suggest chicago [02:59] calc: OK. Got it now. [02:59] Now I know why my weather is off: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514333 [02:59] Gnome bug 514333 in clock "'world clock applet' and 'weather report applet' show different temperatures" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [03:04] johanbr: i think the weather functionality is rather useless in the clock since it doesn't fully replace the weather applet [03:04] so if you are actually interested in the weather you need the weather applet still :-\ [03:04] * ogra_cmpc2 dances around http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/images/hardy/ :) [03:04] (and goes to bed...) [03:05] calc: Just because my beer in the fridge doesn't replace a full-scale brewery, that doesn't mean it's useless. :) [03:07] johanbr: it gives the feels like temperature, no pressure, no humidity, no various other things, no forecast, no weather map [03:08] johanbr: and if you enable it eats as much space as a full weather applet on your taskbar [03:08] Right. But if I'm just too lazy to look out the window, it'll do fine. :) [03:08] actually that last part can be turned off apparently [03:08] * calc can't determine humidity, etc from looking out a window ;-) [03:09] johanbr: except for the part where it can't tell the temperature right... [03:10] * calc thinks it should use the weather applet so if you click on it pops open [03:10] have the icon in the locations part be a link to the full screen bit that pops up from the weather applet [03:10] er 'Details' [03:11] that way i could get details of any cities i want to have in locations without having to have a seperate weather applet icon for each on my taskbar [03:12] * calc should file a gnome bug about it === vorian is now known as vorian_ [03:33] what changed recently with fonts in Gnome? [03:33] it seems much different [03:33] everything seems er fatter [03:33] or at least the bold stuff does [03:34] I think the fonts are nicer, except for a couple of glitches, and the bold. [03:36] yea they look like an improvement, i was just wondering what changed [03:36] would be helpful to know so i can try to fix openoffice to be the same === lamont` is now known as lamont__ === lamont` is now known as lamont [05:52] alguien habla español??? [05:53] somebody speak spanish??? [05:54] ok i need some help with ubiquity installer [05:54] somebody know about it? [05:55] helloooooooo [05:56] !es [05:56] Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. [05:59] i speak english too [06:00] but do you can helpme in english ?? [06:00] Perhaps in #ubuntu. This channel is not for support. [06:00] ok thanks for nothing [06:02] Eh :-) [06:02] i hate ubuntu users you think ubuntu is the best but dont, is too slow [06:02] Nice to meet you, too. [06:02] Indeed. [06:04] But it’s true, AmigaOS can calculate digits of π 50% faster than Ubuntu. [06:23] Looks like artigas needs kicking. [06:40] Fujitsu: Kicked. [06:42] infinity: Thankyou muchly. [06:47] Hmmm, why is there stuff with ~hardy1 versioning in Hardy's NEW? [06:47] good morning [06:47] Hi dholbach. [06:47] hey Fujitsu [06:47] how are you doing? [06:48] Not great, but getting better. Been a bit sick over the past week or so. [06:48] You? [06:48] Fujitsu, stuff that was synced from debian by a core-dev or motu i'd guess? [06:48] ugh... hope you're up to your usual 150% soon again! [06:48] and they didn't want to go through the "normal" sync [06:48] hey superm1 [06:48] hey dholbach good morning [06:48] superm1: I guess, but there are cleaner ways to fake a sync. [06:49] Fujitsu, but if that's the reason, then I assume they didn't realize it'd end up in NEW [07:16] pitti: sparc being broken, is that known? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12550921/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-sparc.bluez-gnome_0.23-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [07:17] pitti: pkgbinarymangler's striptranslations seems to be the culprit. [07:19] Mithrandir: Eh? [07:20] Mithrandir: How is pkgstriptranslations to blame for libg* being out of sync on Sparc? [07:22] infinity: sorry, it's still early morning here and I managed to think the conffile prompt broke something. [07:22] infinity: I'm not sure how I managed that, but bigger wonders have happened in the early mornings. [07:22] * Mithrandir goes back to hiding under a rock === doko_ is now known as doko [07:31] what's the status of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSUpgrades ? (And where's the right place to discuss it?) It seems to be at a standstill, and it's quite an important feature - I know a lot of people are relying on it to get from dapper to hardy on their servers [07:32] it's marked as 'essential' here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy - but it's the only one that isn't approved [07:36] Good morning [07:38] Riddell: ok, I'll have a look at MIR today [07:39] Mithrandir: hm, that looks like an absolutely normal arch/any desync to me, as we always get with new GNOMEs [07:40] Mithrandir: given back [07:40] pitti: It'll fail again, I'm sure. I need to probably untangle sparc. [07:41] hm [07:41] Slow arches always get screwed with new GNOME. [07:42] pitti: If you want to trace it back through sparc failure and untangle it for me, more power to you. I need sleep. [07:52] pitti: speaking of MIR; is 195519 on your list, or are you and I deadlocked thinking the other is going to look at it first? [07:56] slangasek: actually locked on someone getting it into universe [07:56] o_O [07:56] update-signature crashed [07:56] File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/launchpadbugs/http_connection.py", line 121, in _safe_urlopen [07:56] raise Error.LPUrlError("login failed", url) [07:56] launchpadbugs.bughelper_error.LPUrlError: 'login failed https://launchpad.net/bugs/200089/+text' [07:56] pitti: Error: This bug is private [07:56] thekorn: ^ [07:57] ah, private [07:57] dholbach: ^ seems update-signature does not get along with private bugs [07:59] pitti: oh, then I don't think that was communicated to the submitter; your last comment was that PPA was sufficient for an MIR review? [08:02] pitti: grmbl [08:03] slangasek: right; I just made a followup comment for clarifying [08:03] pitti: ok, cheers [08:04] pitti: bug filed [08:04] hi all. Does anyone know if about-this-computer is going to be included in hardy? [08:08] Keybuk: ^ ? [08:12] Can I convince someone to kick suitesparse through binary NEW now? [08:14] thanks pitti - I will try the desktop ML === Traxer is now known as Traxer|on === Traxer|on is now known as Traxer [08:26] moin === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:29] GRRRR [08:29] * Fujitsu runs. [08:29] why does my ubuntu-docs upload stall at 37125k / 37126k [08:29] for the second time now [08:30] * dholbach uploads to a faster host and re-uploads from there [08:30] ¡¡¡ GRRRR !!! [08:30] <\sh> how broke the shadows on intel gras? ;) [08:30] * Fujitsu quickly attacks said faster host. [08:31] * dholbach strangles Fujitsu with passion [08:31] * Fujitsu predicted that. [08:31] :) [08:31] * dholbach hugs Fujitsu [08:33] hi stgraber [08:34] hi pitti [08:34] sladen: I subscribed you to a bunch of acpi-support patches on http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring - do you think you'll have some time to look at them? [08:40] Fujitsu: suitesparse NEWed [08:41] pitti: Danke. [09:04] hey seb128, mvo, pitti, asac [09:05] hi! [09:07] hey MacSlow [09:08] <\sh> hmm...for what is feisty-gdm-themes for? it creates a strange /usr/shareFeisty [09:17] hey MacSlow [09:32] din> http://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 [09:32] Launchpad bug 200338 in linux "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 " [Critical,Fix released] === enrico_ is now known as enrico [09:47] mdke: at this point, I would say no [09:50] I'm curious what'd happen if an ubuntu bug had a bug task against ubuntu-doc and it got closed by changelog-closes-bugs.. [09:52] soren: the ubuntu task gets closed, the ubuntu-doc one shouldn't [09:53] mkay. [09:54] Erk... Edgy's usplash looks *horrible* in kvm. [09:54] Hm.. Only the amd64 one. *shrug* [09:56] whoops [09:59] It seems the newest xserver-xorg-video-intel is even worse than the previous version (alpha 6), compiz is now running terribly slow, 3d games have tons of artifacts etc (Intel X3100). Anyone know about this? [10:02] Wartorn: Xorg.0.log or didn't happen [10:05] http://pastebin.org/23187 [10:05] contains some weird warnings etc, not sure what to make of it.. [10:10] Wartorn: seems like the new greedy patch is broken after all [10:10] greedy? [10:11] Wartorn: fwiw, I got just fine performance from flightgear, but I see the artifacts. [10:12] You have the X3100 chip? [10:12] Wartorn: EXA feature [10:12] "fine performance" means what? im getting like 5-10 fps no matter what setting [10:13] Though, this isnt really an issue of performance per se, since it seems the intel driver cant really use the x3100 chip properly. its just the compiz slowness/artifacts [10:13] I'll upgrade my laptop first and check out what's going on [10:14] Wartorn: hmm? it has supported it for a long time [10:14] Well, prolly has, but im getting terrible performance and opengl crashes all the time.. seems others are too, as far as i can tell from browsing the web [10:14] Wartorn: you are talking about mesa [10:15] oh, okay [10:15] Dont know too much about the driver-system in nix yet [10:15] 2D driver works fine, 3D most likely has some issues [10:15] Wartorn: 40-50 fps, I think [10:15] yeah, 2d works fine [10:15] but that holds true for other drivers too [10:15] Mithrandir: What card? [10:16] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) [10:16] whatever that translates to in marketing terms. [10:16] You kidding me? damnit, i got the same, and its running at 5-10 fps max [10:16] mvo: Do you have a clue about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose-modules/+bug/188579 ? [10:16] Launchpad bug 188579 in apt "Installing virtualbox-ose-modules pulls in 386 kernel (on -generic)" [Medium,Confirmed] [10:16] Mithrandir: are you running -1ubuntu3? [10:16] well, I didn't count it, but it was running just fine, performance-wise. [10:16] Its not with me :( [10:17] tjaalton: just let me reboot this laptop to make sure I'm actually using the latest kernel and all. [10:17] Man, this is an issue that has been annoying me for ages. [10:17] Wartorn: where did you upgrade from? [10:17] which version I mean [10:17] What do you mean? [10:17] gutsy or earlier hardy? [10:18] 7.10 to hardy about a week ago, and the update i did today broke stuff [10:18] or, well, gave me the artifacts etc [10:18] but before the latest update the performance was fine? [10:18] Well, not FlightGear fps etc, but Compiz worked fine [10:19] Compiz just makes video very slow, and all the fading effects jitter/are not smooth [10:19] there's another patch for that [10:19] well, generally, the whole usage feels slower with it on, now [10:20] oh, and even with compizconfig-settings-manager installed, i cant select "custom" settings on the appearance menu anymore [10:20] mvo: you had the patch for -intel that enables hw-overlay for 965 video? [10:20] Wartorn: That's because it's now hooked up to ccsm-simple, or some such. [10:21] RAOF: Not sure exactly what that means :) Any way to fix it? [10:21] Wartorn: "sudo aptitude install simple-ccsm" :) [10:22] But i'd be amazingly happy if anyone could fix my issues with the graphics chip. 8 fps in flightgear in 800x600, with my x3100, 2ghz dualcore and 2 gig ram just seems absurd [10:22] aight, thanks :) [10:22] tjaalton: yes, I am. [10:23] still fine performance. I see glitches though. [10:23] tjaalton: yes, I have that one [10:23] Mithrandir/mvo: Have you done anything to fix the X3100 out of the box? if so, what? [10:23] tjaalton: last time I talked with bryce about it he was hesitant to include it, but I think its quite important [10:24] Wartorn: no, I havent' fiddled with the xorg setup at all, except enabling wacom [10:24] why is there a fps difference when compiz is enabled [10:24] mvo: url? I'll test it on my laptop [10:24] Wartorn: I did a package for -intel some days ago that changed i965 to use hardware overlay, I need to check if it is still up-to-date [10:24] ever try glx gears with compiz enabled and then disabled? big fps difference on nvidia cards [10:24] thousands of frames [10:25] Because glxgears isn't a benchmark of 3d performance. [10:25] Would that make my flightgear fps better or not? just asking, to make sure we're discussing the same thing [10:25] RAOF, what is a good benchmark? [10:25] ionstorm: A game? OpenArena? [10:25] btw, anyone know how to enable showfps [10:25] in openarena [10:26] tjaalton: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.2.1-1ubuntu3.debdiff <- that is the debdiff - you need to set "TexturedVideo" to "false" in the device section to make it work (that should be the default in the final patch) [10:26] cjwatson: "can't use authenticated mode on repository 'http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu' since it is not a known repository (e.g. alioth)" [10:26] RAOF, what is the /showfps command for openarena [10:26] cjwatson: I thought that was fixed in debcheckout? [10:26] mvo: thanks, I'll try it [10:26] ionstorm: I don't know? /showfps? :) [10:26] Wartorn: its currently a bit experimental, I think I would like it polish it a bit first before it can get wider testing [10:27] RAOF, rofl, no idea [10:27] pitti: should be bazaar.launchpad.net not launchpad.net [10:27] cjwatson: ah; well, bzr get'ing that URL works [10:27] yeah, greedy is definately not enabled with the latest version [10:27] Wartorn: but if you are adventurous please follow the instructions I gave tjaalton :) [10:27] Well, the state im in now, with graphics basically broken, i'd be glad to help [10:27] pitti: ah, hmm [10:27] cjwatson: I'll change it, though [10:27] yeah, but how do i use a debdiff file like that? [10:27] Mithrandir: check that your xorg.conf does not have anything extra :) [10:28] pitti: do file a bug against devscripts though [10:28] Wartorn: just set 'Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"' for now, until a fix is uploaded [10:28] in Xorg.conf? [10:29] yep [10:29] tjaalton: even with greedy (at least I think it was enabled) fullscreen video was not very impressive for me [10:29] device-section [10:29] mvo: yep, jerky as h*ll [10:29] cjwatson: done, bug 200924 [10:29] Launchpad bug 200924 in devscripts "debcheckout does not regognize http://launchpad.net/ URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200924 [10:29] ta [10:30] tjaalton: Okay, so how do i know when a patch is released (and when can we expect it?) and do i need to remove it then? [10:30] sigh.. nvidia really should fix the memleaks.. compiz eats all my RAM after a couple of days [10:30] Wartorn: you don't need to remove it then. just check your updates [10:31] tjaalton: That's nvidia telling you to get a 512Mb card :P [10:32] Just another question.. How come Mithrandir gets 5 times more FPS than me, with Flightgear when we have the same chip? i dont get this.. [10:32] RAOF: yeah, it's a measly GF7950 [10:34] Ah well, gonna test that xorg.conf thing.. Thanks for all your help so far :) [10:34] tjaalton, bryce: if there is a good chance that this patch enters -intel I'm happy to work on it again and resolve the outstanding issue (but only if the chances are good that we actually include it) [10:35] mvo: I'm in favour of it, since it's from upstream anyway? [10:35] bryce is asleep atm [10:35] but I'll test it first to see if there are any issues [10:35] tjaalton: not really from upstream, but upstream seems to be in favor of it (but I haven't checked the latest messages on the xorg list about it) [10:35] tjaalton: thanks :) [10:36] mvo: is there an upstream bug report about it? [10:39] Thanks, the line to xorg.conf fixed the compiz issues. Though not the lousy fps in flightgear. [10:39] tjaalton: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/26334 <- that is the discussion about it, looks like it got commited to git already [10:41] mvo: yep, nice [10:49] does anyone have an AMD64 build machine that I can use ? [10:49] (I need to test some builds on amd64, but dont have access to one currently( [10:50] Mez: PPA? [10:50] tjaalton, I need to build against debian too :( [10:52] tjaalton: Just a question, if i install the hardware overlay patch, could this increase my opengl performance? like games wise, not just video? [10:55] Wartorn: nope [10:55] Wartorn: have you tried putting this option in the Section "Device" of your xorg.conf? [10:56] Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" [10:56] No, i have not [10:56] i will try :) [10:56] Wartorn: try it and restart the Xserver [10:57] allright, be right back [10:58] sadly, no improvement on the FPS in flightgear whatsoever :( [10:59] Seems to use XAA for acceleration though, according to the logs [10:59] tjaalton: http://pastebin.com/f3da10a8a [10:59] tjaalton: that's my xorg.conf [11:00] I dont get it, same chipset as me, but better fps.. [11:01] Mithrandir: looks clean enough, and since you mentioned the glitches you are not running with greedy migration :) [11:19] hmm, not much I can do about the intel breakage before bryce gets back, since the new patch touches another part of the source than the previous one [11:22] Oh, is AHCI preffered to be on or off in the BIOS, when running ubuntu btw? [11:22] cant seem to find any hard info on the topic [11:24] Wartorn: AHCI, as in your SATA controller? [11:24] Wartorn: That's somewhat useful to have enabled. [11:25] Yeah, SATA controller. Okay, thanks :) [11:25] I just know that XP SP1 wont install with it on, gotta have SP2. Just wondered about the ubuntu support for it [11:25] Wartorn: The AHCI drivers are "cleaner" than the mess of chipset-specific drivers and, in my experience, tend to do the right thing more often. [11:26] Okay, thanks alot for the info. [11:33] mvo: video is better with that patch, but still not that good [11:33] mvo: fullscreen is usable also without it, but when you get something else on the screen (like when changing volume) it slows down === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:05] tjaalton: thanks for giving it a go! does it matter if you have exa or xaa for the tests? i.e. is one of them faster or is it all the same? [12:05] mvo, asac, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/images/8.04/ [12:06] i'd appreciate some install testing (takes about 30min (with only 5 needing your attention)) [12:07] ogra_cmpc: downloading now [12:07] thanks :) [12:07] mvo: totem crashes with XAA [12:07] tjaalton: with badalloc? [12:07] yep [12:08] tjaalton: and ""TexturedVideo" is set to "false" in the config? [12:08] that is strange, my understanding is that it should work :/ [12:08] mvo: I grabbed the upstream patch [12:09] tjaalton: I think the upstream patch provides two Xv ports, but uses the textured one as default [12:09] ogra_cmpc: getting the bits right now [12:09] thanks :) [12:09] carlos: ping ? There is a little problem with kdesudo translations missing in the langpacks.... [12:09] Tonio_: hi [12:09] ogra_cmpc: if you make suspend to ram work, I will love the cmpc much more ... [12:09] Tonio_: which distro series? [12:09] carlos: it's been in main for 8 month now, and also the pot file is correctly exported to rosetta [12:10] Tonio_: Hardy? [12:10] mvo, just waiting for amitk to blow the horn [12:10] mvo: ok I'll try the original version next [12:10] carlos: both gutsy and hardy.... no issue for gutsy, but it would be nice having it in hardy [12:10] carlos: yes [12:10] mvo, at least the daily builds seem to work fine now so changes will be there the next day [12:10] carlos: afaics, the pot file is already mostly translated in rosetta btw [12:11] carlos: but no kdesudo.mo available in any package [12:11] StevenK, Hobbsee: for bug 192507, do you generally consider "Monday" as start of the week? the current en_AU locale uses Sunday [12:11] Launchpad bug 192507 in langpack-locales "en_AU locale: first day of week incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192507 [12:11] ogra_cmpc: nice! [12:12] :D [12:12] pitti: When I lived in .au, it still seemed to be a Sun->Sat type of place. [12:12] pitti: I'm not sure if there's a government standard or anything, though. [12:12] carlos: there is probably something going wrong with the rosetta export, but I can't figure out what exactly [12:12] Tonio_: next language pack should have it, we didn't have it tagged as something to export to the language packs [12:13]