| mdke | moin | 07:16 |
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| kgoetz | ello | 07:19 |
| kgoetz | catch you in a few hours - i'm leaving work | 07:19 |
| mdke | sommer: nice work on the serverguide, it's becoming a monster | 07:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | there are times i *hate* docbook :| i removed stuff and it broke :( | 11:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | seems to work ish still, so np | 11:47 |
| Odd-rationale | I have a quick question. What is the difference between help.ubuntu.com/community , wiki.ubuntu.com , and doc.ubuntu.com ? Thanks! | 11:49 |
| Gabz | the name... | 11:51 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aiui, doc is 'offical', help is WIP, and wiki is free for all | 11:51 |
| Odd-rationale | So documentation moves from wiki -> help -> doc ? | 11:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | doc.u.c/community is wiki pages that are mostly stable too | 11:53 |
| Odd-rationale | help.ubuntu.com seems to be the most "official" while doc.ubuntu.com has a bunch of broken links... | 11:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | perhaps i have my sub domains mixed up | 11:55 |
| Odd-rationale | Which would be the best place to start getting involved? The wiki, i assume? | 11:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | topic has https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam , which is a useful link | 11:57 |
| Odd-rationale | ok thanks, Kamping_Kaiser. | 11:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Odd-rationale, hope its helping | 11:58 |
| ryanakca | A comment on the bug suggests forwarding it to Ubuntu-bugs? bug 135263 | 12:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135263 in gnome-app-install "idea: table of replacements of Windows software in Linux in the pack manager" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135263 | 12:22 |
| ryanakca | ... but I think it has already been done :) | 12:22 |
| ryanakca | If so, can you close the bug please? | 12:23 |
| sommer | mdke: thanks, I was thinking that it was starting to get pretty long too... and there's still a some updates and maybe a new section :-) | 12:27 |
| frank_ | Odd-rationale: help.ubuntu.com is user documentation, wiki has a lot of other ubuntu-related things | 13:18 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #201131 in ubuntu-doc "Documentation for gnome-control-center does not mention PolicyKit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201131 | 20:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #201199 in ubuntu-doc "Suggest to use aptitude instead of apt-get" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201199 | 21:49 |
| ubotu | New bug: #201200 in ubuntu-doc "Document a method to receive notifications about new packages available (in the server)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201200 | 22:02 |
| mdke | sommer: I'm slightly worried about more sections being added - there is not much time allowed left for review of the new material and translation | 22:22 |
| sommer | mdke: the only new section would be one on the bacula backup application | 22:24 |
| sommer | and updates :-) | 22:25 |
| sommer | I did ask for an extension on the new sections, back before FF | 22:26 |
| mdke | yes, I remember | 22:27 |
| sommer | bacula is actually a topic of tomorrow's meeting, ivoks is/was working on getting it into main for hardy, but he's been sick for a while and it may not make it | 22:27 |
| mdke | but I'm just a bit worried | 22:27 |
| mdke | when do you expect the new sections? | 22:27 |
| sommer | I should be able to have the section in by the weekend | 22:27 |
| sommer | the thought is that only covering simple shell scripts for backups isn't very "enterprise like" | 22:28 |
| mdke | that's true. it depends on what tools are available | 22:29 |
| sommer | I guess my concern is that if bacula does make it into main, and that makes it a new "feature" of hardy it'll be marketed but not documented | 22:29 |
| sommer | trying to not have documentation a minus with regards to ubuntu server... basically because that one "journalist" gave a somewhat bad review of gutsy | 22:30 |
| mdke | that's the problem with such massively late feature freeze exceptions | 22:31 |
| sommer | you can't please everyone so, it's not a huge deal either way... plus the bacula site has quite good docs | 22:31 |
| sommer | totally, and having the main dev out for so long has jammed things up pretty good | 22:31 |
| mdke | we can certainly do our best to get them in | 22:31 |
| sommer | here's a rough draft of what I was thinking about: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bacula | 22:32 |
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| mdke | that's cool | 22:34 |
| mdke | I guess just try and find out asap whether the feature is going to be in hardy or not | 22:34 |
| sommer | sure, should know tomorrow around 17:00 or 18:00 utc | 22:35 |
| mdke | good news | 22:36 |
| mdke | sommer: what sort of progress did you make in relation to that issue about broken ulinks in the help website? | 22:42 |
| mdke | I was thinking of starting to get ready a similar system to the one we used last release, with sed | 22:42 |
| mdke | except build it into the Makefile rather than do it as a manual script | 22:43 |
| sommer | mdke: ya, I haven't had time to look at it for a while | 22:44 |
| sommer | basically my idea was for the python script to get the easy #doc#section ones, then prompt for the harder ones | 22:45 |
| mdke | that's a nice idea | 22:45 |
| sommer | should make it more copy and paste anyway | 22:45 |
| mdke | although it will make it difficult to use it for auto builds like doc.ubuntu.com | 22:45 |
| mdke | or if an auto build is required for a particular package | 22:45 |
| sommer | ya, didn't really take that into account at the time :-) | 22:45 |
| mdke | but is it safe to say this would be a goal for hardy+1 rather than hardy? | 22:46 |
| sommer | what's the time table for that part? | 22:46 |
| mdke | I'm not really sure | 22:46 |
| mdke | I think I'll just start using the old version and then we can see how your work goes | 22:47 |
| sommer | my plan was to kuckle down and work on that after SF, hopefully having something by the release date | 22:47 |
| sommer | ya, that's probably a good plan | 22:47 |
| mdke | cool, thanks again for working on that | 22:47 |
| sommer | sure, nop | 22:48 |
| sommer | np, even | 22:48 |
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