| xivulon | TheMuso thanks will look into that | 10:49 |
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| xivulon | basically current initrd ignores ro/rw flag whenever root is on ntfs and always mount rw | 10:49 |
| xivulon | that was because 1. ntfs-3g could not be remounted (then it could be remounted, then again it could not) 2. there is not fsck | 10:50 |
| xivulon | for fat I assume it gets mounted r/o and mounthost fails (at the moment there is a bug in that I was using awk which might not available at that point) | 10:51 |
| xivulon | I have in a note that the relevant initramfs code is: | 10:56 |
| xivulon | if [ ${readonly} = y ] && ([ -z "$LOOP" ] || [ "${FSTYPE#ntfs}" = "$FSTYPE" ]); then roflag=-r | 10:56 |
| xivulon | here is a revised (untested) /etc/init.d/mounthost (lupin-support package): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59231/ | 11:03 |
| xivulon | if mounthost above does not fix it, then it might be necessary to remove "|| [ "${FSTYPE#ntfs}" = "$FSTYPE" ]" from initramfs-tools/scripts/local | 11:05 |
| xivulon | by the way selecting more than 4GB in fvat should simply split root into multiple <4GB files (/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /ubuntu/disks/usr.disk /ubuntu/disks/home.disk...) | 11:22 |
| xivulon | mounthost take-2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59234/ | 11:37 |
| TheMuso | xivulon: Yes I saw that, I eventually saw that the disk size was not the issue. | 11:45 |
| xivulon | TheMuso, I would assume that installation goes fine but you cannot reboot into the installed system | 11:52 |
| xivulon | in case try to replace /etc/init.d/mounthost with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59234/ | 11:52 |
| xivulon | if that fails, second thing to try is to edit initramfs-tools/scripts/local removing check on ntfs | 11:53 |
| xivulon | and regenerate initrd | 11:53 |
| xivulon | What is the difference between console-keymaps-at/keymap and console-setup/layoutcode? | 12:43 |
| xivulon | On the same subject, is it necessary to preseed console-setup/modelcode? | 12:45 |
| === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson | ||
| cjwatson | xivulon: console-keymaps-at/keymap is obsolete; don't preseed it. You are unlikely to need to preseed console-setup/modelcode. | 13:42 |
| xivulon | cjwatson can you pls expand on "unlikely" | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | "not unless you have extremely unusual requirements and know what you're doing" | 13:44 |
| cjwatson | just leave it at the default | 13:44 |
| xivulon | default meaning "do not preseed". Only thing I want avoid is an interactive question. | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | it won't be asked on any platform you support | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | it's asked on m68k Sun, powerpc CHRP, sparc, and anything unrecognised | 13:51 |
| xivulon | great | 13:51 |
| evand | cjwatson: You moved bug 200423 from casper to ubiquity, but I'm not sure I agree. Wouldn't it be best to do any sufficient memory checks in casper, where we don't have to worry about having enough memory to load X and ubiquity initially? | 13:51 |
| evand | Or perhaps you had a different solution in mind? | 13:51 |
| xivulon | last q on preseed, a user long ago suggested to set clock-setup/utc to false as being more appropriate for windows setup | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | evand: feel free to move it back if you prefer that; I was just thinking that casper is not in a position to make ubiquity crash differently | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | clock-setup/utc will already be set to false if os-prober detects Windows | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | so assuming that it *does* detect Windows in the wubi environment (is that true?0 | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | ) | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | if that's not the case, yes, preseed it | 13:53 |
| xivulon | do you suggest me to skip preseeding then or preseed it myself to false? | 13:53 |
| xivulon | I guess I'll preseed then | 13:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200423 in casper "The installer CD doesn't warn the user that they dont have enough RAM to continue." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200423 | 13:53 |
| evand | you're a few minutes too late ubotu. | 13:54 |
| xivulon | evand see ^^ for mounthost fix, I have not tested it, can do so tonight and merge it in | 13:54 |
| xivulon | fell free to beat me to it ;) | 13:54 |
| xivulon | feel | 13:55 |
| xivulon | that should address bug #198007 | 13:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 198007 in lupin "Don't use awk in early mounthost" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198007 | 13:55 |
| xivulon | well done ubotu... | 13:56 |
| evand | heh, great | 13:56 |
| xivulon | ah I see cjwatson already addressed 191122! | 13:59 |
| simosx | hi! am looking into translating the ubuntu installer (what's the package that runs as soon as the CD boots up). | 13:59 |
| xivulon | sorry for the set-x I discussed with evand and decided to leave them for the alphas | 14:00 |
| xivulon | umenu/wubi | 14:00 |
| xivulon | simonsx https://translations.launchpad.net/wubi/ and https://translations.launchpad.net/umenu | 14:00 |
| xivulon | note that you need to be a member of Ubuntu Translators group | 14:00 |
| simosx | xivulon: many thanks. am member of the group. | 14:01 |
| xivulon | your contributions are most welcome | 14:01 |
| simosx | xivulon: I translated umenu but did not find the message: | 14:17 |
| simosx | "Press F4 to select alternative start-up and installation modes" | 14:17 |
| simosx | and "Test memory" | 14:17 |
| simosx | wubi is the tool that starts in Windows, isn't it? | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | simosx: those are in the gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package in Ubuntu | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | simosx: you should also look at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/debian-installer | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: not everyone uses Windows ;-) | 14:19 |
| simosx | cjwatson: thanks. I always try to append the package name to the URL https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu and it comes up negative. | 14:21 |
| cjwatson | that's for projects, not for packages in Ubuntu | 14:22 |
| cjwatson | two different namespaces | 14:22 |
| simosx | oh, I'll have to check more stuff again. | 14:25 |
| simosx | the UI in Ubuntu is almost all translated with the exception of a few messages. I am trying to figure out what package they come from and it's a tough process. | 14:26 |
| simosx | is there an irc channel where translators are around? or some input for this? | 14:27 |
| xivulon | ah yes I misread simosx original msg, anyway wubi/umenu translations would be quite handy... | 14:27 |
| xivulon | #ubuntu-translators | 14:28 |
| simosx | xivulon: that's good. | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | simosx: if they're installer strings, you're welcome to ask here | 14:34 |
| jstrunk | How can I regenerate the /etc/fstab that d-i generates during installation? | 14:55 |
| xivulon | jstrunk: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ago/partman-auto-loop/lupin-support/annotate/ago%40nbago-20080114235447-9rmsbro57lb2zsru?file_id=autopartitionloop-20070730115247-m21lgboyh63uf6mv-2 | 14:59 |
| xivulon | see line 121-133 | 14:59 |
| cjwatson | huh? that is not helpful | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | NOT EVERYBODY USES WUBI :-) | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | (that code does not work outside d-i) | 15:01 |
| cjwatson | jstrunk: there isn't really a way to do so outside the context of the installer, I'm afraid | 15:01 |
| xivulon | not sure jstrunk is outside d-i, in case I guess it might be possible to replicate /lib/partaman/fstab.d and run those scripts as indicated above | 15:02 |
| jstrunk | I am thinking about using systemimager to clone a system to about 200 workstations. | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: please find this sort of information out before confusing people | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | replicating /lib/partman/fstab.d will not help outside d-i; parted_server won't be running and the amount of infrastructure you need to do that is enormous | 15:04 |
| jstrunk | It looks like the only things that change on disk with different hardware are Xorg, /etc/blkid.tab, and /etc/fstab | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | jstrunk: I'd suggest just writing it by hand, with the obvious boilerplate as constructed by d-i | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | ("by hand" => in code obviously) | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | we don't have a canned way to regenerate it in your type of environment | 15:05 |
| jstrunk | Thank you. | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | sorry that the answer isn't better, but really systemimager is going to need to supply identifiers for the partitions it's installing onto | 15:06 |
| xivulon | well apologies for any confusion, was simply pointing out to a code section I am familiar with that actually generates fstab (in d-i) | 15:07 |
| jstrunk | it can handle that, but I don't think it will handle the cdrom and floppy drives correctly. | 15:07 |
| jstrunk | I guess I could probe those and append them to what systemimager gives me. | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I can see how it would be nice to reuse d-i's code for that | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/partman-target/ubuntu/annotate/cjwatson@canonical.com-20080306221605-6cuu03xjs8zh4g3d?file_id=x_Arch_Librarian_<arch@canonical.com> is the file in question (partman-target/finish.d/fstab_removable_media_entries), but you'd have to extract list-devices from debian-installer-utils as well, and remove the use of mapdevfs | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | and generally munge it about | 15:11 |
| jstrunk | Thank you for finding this for me. | 15:14 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: evand * r2560 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/zoommap.py): | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: * Use a black border around tzmap points to assist the visually impaired. | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: * Flash the currently selected location on the tzmap so that it's easier to | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: spot. | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: * When clicking on the tzmap, if the closest match is already selected, take | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: the next closest. | 15:51 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: evand * r2561 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/glade/stepLocation.glade): | 16:22 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: * Place the tzmap in an AspectFrame so it doesn't look distorted on | 16:22 |
| CIA-23 | ubiquity: widescreen displays (LP: #200152). | 16:22 |
| CIA-23 | partman-target: evand * r712 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/clear_partitions): * Whitelist /usr/local in clear_partitions (LP: #200582). | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | evand: sorry to be a pain, but /var/local too? | 17:13 |
| cjwatson | (it's in the FHS I believe) | 17:13 |
| evand | ah, I did a quick search through the FHS docs and didn't come across that one. Will do. | 17:13 |
| mario_limonciell | evand, did you get a chance to talk to cjwatson about adding a preseed option for not setting the active partition on boot? | 17:14 |
| evand | oh, thanks for reminding me | 17:14 |
| cjwatson | I have an interview to conduct now, but briefly, sounds like a good idea; would need to be done in both grub-installer and lilo-installer, I expect | 17:14 |
| evand | ok, I'll take care of putting it in then. | 17:15 |
| mario_limonciell | thanks | 17:15 |
| evand | ah, it is indeed in the FHS | 17:17 |
| CIA-23 | partman-target: evand * r713 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/clear_partitions): * Whitelist /var/local in clear_partitions. | 17:22 |
| mario_limonciell | evand, it looks like oem-config didn't get installed in the noninteractive install | 18:35 |
| evand | mario_limonciell: ok, on it | 18:43 |
| mario_limonciell | thanks | 18:44 |
| xivulon | evand, have asked bean123 (grub4dos author) to have a look at truncation + other bug that came up today http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=720618 | 19:22 |
| xivulon | hopefully new code will be available shortly | 19:22 |
| evand | ah, nice. Thanks | 19:22 |
| xivulon | TheMuso did you have a chance to test if mounthost code solves your vfat issues? | 19:28 |
| CIA-23 | grub-installer: evand * r729 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 20:45 |
| CIA-23 | grub-installer: * Added the grub-installer/make_active debconf question. When | 20:45 |
| CIA-23 | grub-installer: preseeded false, this will skip the code that marks a partition as | 20:45 |
| CIA-23 | grub-installer: bootable. | 20:45 |
| evand | lilo on the way | 20:58 |
| mario_limonciell | evand, will that be testable in tomorrow's daily? | 20:59 |
| mario_limonciell | er when were you planning another ubiquity upload? | 20:59 |
| evand | mario_limonciell: if I can I'll do a ubiquity upload tonight. I might have to run some tzmap changes by slangasek though. | 21:02 |
| mario_limonciell | okay sounds sane | 21:02 |
| evand | but that should be straightforward | 21:02 |
| mario_limonciell | well most ideally would like to see noninteractive fixed at the same time | 21:02 |
| mario_limonciell | to test both sequentially | 21:02 |
| mario_limonciell | so if it takes another day or so to sort that out first, that's more preferential | 21:02 |
| TheMuso | xivulon: Not yet, I had to go to bed. I'll have a look today, unless its been resolved. | 21:05 |
| mario_limonciell | glancing through the differences in gtk_ui and noninteractive, there are a variety of things that are done only in gtk_ui in the self.oem_config block | 21:05 |
| alefteris | cjwatson, I was not able to translate the "Normal" menu option that opens from gfxboot-theme-ubuntu F4 menu. Is this string unstranslatable? | 21:07 |
| cr3 | is there a way to strip -updates from /target/etc/apt/sources.list from the preseed file? | 21:24 |
| cr3 | I know there's something like this for stripping restricted: d-i apt-setup/restricted boolean false | 21:24 |
| cr3 | I just can't find anything about updates | 21:24 |
| cr3 | worst case, I can always do it in the late-command | 21:25 |
| TheMuso | evand: Alright, with beta approaching, is there anything I can do to try and get a11y working in only-ubiquity? | 21:46 |
| cr3 | also, might there be a way to strip deb-src lines in sources.list from the preseed file? | 22:09 |
| Baldone | hello | 22:29 |
| Baldone | i am having problem installing ubuntu on my laptop | 22:30 |
| === ebel_ is now known as ebel | ||
| cjwatson | alefteris: err, yeah, oops, please file a bug | 22:44 |
| alefteris | ok | 22:44 |
| ago | evand lupin rev 91 is up | 22:51 |
| === mario_limonciell is now known as superm1_ | ||
| ago | TheMuso, updated mounthost code: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/lupin/hardy/annotate/agostino.russo%40gmail.com-20080311225057-2kq30onjg2p4wsqe?file_id=lupinsupport.mountho-20071025014343-c5dddjlu6r8jume9-1 | 23:02 |
| ago | umenu rev 21 | 23:03 |
| * ago needs CIA... | 23:04 | |
| TheMuso | ago: Pulling the branch now. | 23:05 |
| TheMuso | ago: When I get the desktop cd synced, I' | 23:08 |
| TheMuso | ago: When I get the desktop cd synced, I' | 23:08 |
| TheMuso | gah | 23:08 |
| TheMuso | I'll make a custom desktop image and test it to see if it helps. | 23:08 |
| ago | TheMuso, if you have already a loopinstallation, you can simply replace /etc/init.d/mounthost | 23:10 |
| ago | and see if you can boot with that | 23:10 |
| ago | do you recommend preseeding netcfg/dhcp_timeout? | 23:11 |
| TheMuso | ago: Right, just got to get into the install first, but that shouldn't be too difficult. | 23:11 |
| * TheMuso boots the box. | 23:11 | |
| TheMuso | I can't answer that one I'm sorry. | 23:12 |
| ago | TheMuso there is no need to do a custom image anyway, install with an old ISO then mount root.disk and replace mounthost | 23:12 |
| TheMuso | ago: I know, but I was thinking of some other stuff I wanted to do, but that can wait. | 23:12 |
| ago | was just about to write that... | 23:13 |
| ago | evand, what would you suggest re #201046? | 23:58 |
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