| StevenK | Okay, I'll sort that out with Praj | 00:00 |
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| StevenK | rustyl_: So when is this call happening? | 00:13 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, i don't know | 00:13 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: Is Mauri around there? | 00:16 |
| rustyl_ | let me see | 00:16 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, she is not on irc, but she is in the office.... StevenK who was calling the meeting, were you asking for this, what it davidm? | 00:17 |
| rustyl_ | s/what it/was it/ | 00:17 |
| StevenK | EPARSE | 00:17 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: I thought Mauri was calling the meeting, based on the flurry of e-mail I got this morning. | 00:18 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, just talked to Mauri... she basically said... 'Canonical guys are having a hard time getting helix + hw accelerated codecs working, so we were asked to walk them through it' | 00:22 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, and all i will say is: first integrate all the graphics components, and only after that should you expect the codecs to work | 00:23 |
| rustyl_ | but... Calvin can not make this time to walk through any issues you have with integrating the graphics components | 00:24 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, do you already have all the 2d/3d/libva all figured out and working? | 00:24 |
| rustyl_ | or do we need Calvin? | 00:24 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: Well, sure, but I'm having a hard time reconciling packages to if they are required for 3d, since Hardy includes the 2d driver already | 00:25 |
| rustyl_ | i'm not going to be any help getting all the graphics components working... that is all coming from Calvin | 00:26 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: Even a mapping of what package is for what bit if you know would be very helpful. | 00:27 |
| rustyl_ | i don't even know what you guys are being handed. | 00:28 |
| StevenK | The 3d driver from ARMS. | 00:28 |
| rustyl_ | for our gutsy based images, i have three different psb-*.deb packages that i install | 00:28 |
| StevenK | Which also includes the 2d driver, too | 00:28 |
| rustyl_ | so then... the packages are no coming in a form that you can just 'install'? | 00:29 |
| rustyl_ | because of conflicts in hardy? | 00:29 |
| StevenK | Well, I'd rather not install the 2d driver from the package since hardy already provides it | 00:30 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, ok, so forgetting about unhappiness with the form of the graphics drivers as they are arriving.... if you just install the packages (as is), then are you seeing issues with helix + hardware accelerated codecs? | 00:34 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: If I force everything to be installed, 3d works. I didn't yet have helix in a state where I could test it. Now I do, but I wanted to get the 3d driver sorted out as well | 00:36 |
| rustyl_ | ok, i was under the impression that you were running into issues getting the codecs to work, but I could never get an answer from anyone on what the problem was | 00:37 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, btw... do you have the umc_va_player from ARMS? It's a nice way to verify that your libva + 3d driver is really working without using helix (basically remove another variable from the equation) | 00:38 |
| StevenK | rustyl_: No, I don't have that. | 00:39 |
| rustyl_ | StevenK, look in your home directory on moblin | 00:40 |
| rustyl_ | it's just a stand command line player that spits out a bunch of debug info and doesn't depend on installed codecs or media infrastructure | 00:41 |
| rustyl_ | stand along that is | 00:42 |
| MutantBC | hi | 01:40 |
| MutantBC | have anyone experience an error when installing the mobile image creator - "Couldn't find package mobile-image-creator"? | 01:41 |
| MutantBC | im using ubuntu 7.10 oem version | 01:41 |
| StevenK | It's moblin-image-creator | 01:41 |
| MutantBC | yes its still the same "Couldn't find package moblin-image-creator | 01:42 |
| StevenK | Do you have universe enabled? | 01:43 |
| MutantBC | where can i find that? | 01:43 |
| MutantBC | how do i check if the universe is enabled? | 01:43 |
| StevenK | System->Administration->Software Sources | 01:43 |
| MutantBC | ok one moment | 01:44 |
| MutantBC | StevenK do I have to reload? coz the downloading is taking awhile even though the internet connection here is fast | 01:58 |
| StevenK | MutantBC: You should have to, no. | 01:59 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: Ok | 02:02 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: Are the packages that to be downloaded are huge? | 02:03 |
| StevenK | I don't think they are. | 02:03 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: that strange, coz the downloading is slow but the browsing is fast | 02:06 |
| StevenK | Perhaps you need to pick a faster mirror | 02:07 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: How do I do that? | 02:14 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: Can you suggest which mirror is faster? | 02:15 |
| StevenK | MutantBC: Change the "Download from" in Software Sources | 02:16 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: Ok | 02:31 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: but still slow been choosing a lot of mirror sites | 03:30 |
| StevenK | MutantBC: You aren't clear on what is slow. | 03:31 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: downloading the packages from the Software Sources is taking too long | 03:35 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: I kept swtiching to a better mirror site but still downloading around 600 B/s | 03:36 |
| StevenK | MutantBC: Right. The right forum to ask questions about what to do in that case is #ubuntu | 03:37 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: I just wanted to download the moblin-image-creator but without updating the Software Sources, I can't do anything | 03:40 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: #ubuntu is too crowded, they said its normal to get a slower speed on the mirror servers when updating the packages from the Software Sources | 03:47 |
| MutantBC | :( | 03:47 |
| MutantBC | StevenK: Can the moblin image create a customize image for a specific device such as 7" similar to eeePC? | 04:28 |
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| MutantBC | Can the moblin image create a customize image for a specific device such as 7" similar to eeePC? | 05:01 |
| nrp | MutantBC: right now it only does mccaslin and menlow stuff, of which the eee is neither | 05:24 |
| nrp | you could just install ubuntu server on the eee and install the ubuntu-mobile package | 05:25 |
| MutantBC | nrp: so you mean I have to install ubuntu to the eeePC and later install the ubuntu mobile? | 06:32 |
| MutantBC | nrp: can I just install the ubuntu mobile? | 06:32 |
| MutantBC | nrp: can i just install the ubuntu mobile to the eeePC? | 06:32 |
| nrp | itll be infinitely easier for you to just install ubuntu server, and the ubuntu-mobile package | 06:43 |
| nrp | if you want to make it difficult and save a little space, you could use debootstrap and make a really basic install to install ubuntu-mobile onto | 06:44 |
| nrp | don't expect to get anything usable though. unless you're doing development or are just bored, youre better off going with something else | 06:47 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:47 |
| nrp | mornin' | 06:47 |
| WcktKlwn | what kind of devices are supported under ubuntu mobile? | 06:54 |
| dholbach | see the topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ | 06:58 |
| MutantBC | nrp: Ok | 07:17 |
| MutantBC | nrp: right now im using VIA VX800 chipset, which i don't think Ubuntu 7.10 is supported on this chipset | 07:18 |
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| Fenario | KevinTW: ping | 12:16 |
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| davidm | Don_Johnson, http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5429881813.html | 16:23 |
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| bert_ | hi, I'm trying to get onto ubuntu mobile (installed the packages) but it doesn't seem to work | 21:47 |
| bert_ | do I need some kind of alpha image ? | 21:47 |
| bert_ | anyone ? | 21:49 |
| nrp | bert_: what did you install it onto | 21:55 |
| bert_ | I just took a clean 32-bit ubuntu 7.10 | 21:56 |
| bert_ | and then installed ubuntu-mobile and ubuntu-mobile-dev | 21:56 |
| bert_ | nrp ??? | 21:59 |
| nrp | are you using it with Xephyr? | 21:59 |
| bert_ | nrp: what's Xephyr ? | 22:01 |
| nrp | lets you run X inside X | 22:04 |
| nrp | theres a guide to using ubuntu-mobile with it somewhere on the ubuntu wiki | 22:05 |
| bert_ | really | 22:05 |
| bert_ | I didn't get the information that was on there | 22:05 |
| bert_ | (I'm not a native-english speaker | 22:05 |
| bert_ | ) | 22:05 |
| bert_ | I have to go now | 22:07 |
| bert_ | thx for your help | 22:07 |
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| GrueMaster | davidm ping | 22:29 |
| davidm | Hi GrueMaster | 22:35 |
| GrueMaster | I got a note from Don re USB Client. | 22:37 |
| GrueMaster | I just got the source tree this afternoon (everyone was sending me links but no access - doh). | 22:37 |
| GrueMaster | What did you need info on? | 22:38 |
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