[00:00] Okay, I'll sort that out with Praj [00:13] rustyl_: So when is this call happening? [00:13] StevenK, i don't know [00:16] rustyl_: Is Mauri around there? [00:16] let me see [00:17] StevenK, she is not on irc, but she is in the office.... StevenK who was calling the meeting, were you asking for this, what it davidm? [00:17] s/what it/was it/ [00:17] EPARSE [00:18] rustyl_: I thought Mauri was calling the meeting, based on the flurry of e-mail I got this morning. [00:22] StevenK, just talked to Mauri... she basically said... 'Canonical guys are having a hard time getting helix + hw accelerated codecs working, so we were asked to walk them through it' [00:23] StevenK, and all i will say is: first integrate all the graphics components, and only after that should you expect the codecs to work [00:24] but... Calvin can not make this time to walk through any issues you have with integrating the graphics components [00:24] StevenK, do you already have all the 2d/3d/libva all figured out and working? [00:24] or do we need Calvin? [00:25] rustyl_: Well, sure, but I'm having a hard time reconciling packages to if they are required for 3d, since Hardy includes the 2d driver already [00:26] i'm not going to be any help getting all the graphics components working... that is all coming from Calvin [00:27] rustyl_: Even a mapping of what package is for what bit if you know would be very helpful. [00:28] i don't even know what you guys are being handed. [00:28] The 3d driver from ARMS. [00:28] for our gutsy based images, i have three different psb-*.deb packages that i install [00:28] Which also includes the 2d driver, too [00:29] so then... the packages are no coming in a form that you can just 'install'? [00:29] because of conflicts in hardy? [00:30] Well, I'd rather not install the 2d driver from the package since hardy already provides it [00:34] StevenK, ok, so forgetting about unhappiness with the form of the graphics drivers as they are arriving.... if you just install the packages (as is), then are you seeing issues with helix + hardware accelerated codecs? [00:36] rustyl_: If I force everything to be installed, 3d works. I didn't yet have helix in a state where I could test it. Now I do, but I wanted to get the 3d driver sorted out as well [00:37] ok, i was under the impression that you were running into issues getting the codecs to work, but I could never get an answer from anyone on what the problem was [00:38] StevenK, btw... do you have the umc_va_player from ARMS? It's a nice way to verify that your libva + 3d driver is really working without using helix (basically remove another variable from the equation) [00:39] rustyl_: No, I don't have that. [00:40] StevenK, look in your home directory on moblin [00:41] it's just a stand command line player that spits out a bunch of debug info and doesn't depend on installed codecs or media infrastructure [00:42] stand along that is [01:40] hi [01:41] have anyone experience an error when installing the mobile image creator - "Couldn't find package mobile-image-creator"? [01:41] im using ubuntu 7.10 oem version [01:41] It's moblin-image-creator [01:42] yes its still the same "Couldn't find package moblin-image-creator [01:43] Do you have universe enabled? [01:43] where can i find that? [01:43] how do i check if the universe is enabled? [01:43] System->Administration->Software Sources [01:44] ok one moment [01:58] StevenK do I have to reload? coz the downloading is taking awhile even though the internet connection here is fast [01:59] MutantBC: You should have to, no. [02:02] StevenK: Ok [02:03] StevenK: Are the packages that to be downloaded are huge? [02:03] I don't think they are. [02:06] StevenK: that strange, coz the downloading is slow but the browsing is fast [02:07] Perhaps you need to pick a faster mirror [02:14] StevenK: How do I do that? [02:15] StevenK: Can you suggest which mirror is faster? [02:16] MutantBC: Change the "Download from" in Software Sources [02:31] StevenK: Ok [03:30] StevenK: but still slow been choosing a lot of mirror sites [03:31] MutantBC: You aren't clear on what is slow. [03:35] StevenK: downloading the packages from the Software Sources is taking too long [03:36] StevenK: I kept swtiching to a better mirror site but still downloading around 600 B/s [03:37] MutantBC: Right. The right forum to ask questions about what to do in that case is #ubuntu [03:40] StevenK: I just wanted to download the moblin-image-creator but without updating the Software Sources, I can't do anything [03:47] StevenK: #ubuntu is too crowded, they said its normal to get a slower speed on the mirror servers when updating the packages from the Software Sources [03:47] :( [04:28] StevenK: Can the moblin image create a customize image for a specific device such as 7" similar to eeePC? === osantana_ is now known as aCiDBaSe === aCiDBaSe is now known as osantana [05:01] Can the moblin image create a customize image for a specific device such as 7" similar to eeePC? [05:24] MutantBC: right now it only does mccaslin and menlow stuff, of which the eee is neither [05:25] you could just install ubuntu server on the eee and install the ubuntu-mobile package [06:32] nrp: so you mean I have to install ubuntu to the eeePC and later install the ubuntu mobile? [06:32] nrp: can I just install the ubuntu mobile? [06:32] nrp: can i just install the ubuntu mobile to the eeePC? [06:43] itll be infinitely easier for you to just install ubuntu server, and the ubuntu-mobile package [06:44] if you want to make it difficult and save a little space, you could use debootstrap and make a really basic install to install ubuntu-mobile onto [06:47] don't expect to get anything usable though. unless you're doing development or are just bored, youre better off going with something else [06:47] good morning [06:47] mornin' [06:54] what kind of devices are supported under ubuntu mobile? [06:58] see the topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ [07:17] nrp: Ok [07:18] nrp: right now im using VIA VX800 chipset, which i don't think Ubuntu 7.10 is supported on this chipset === doko_ is now known as doko === Ura_out is now known as Uraeus [12:16] KevinTW: ping === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:23] Don_Johnson, http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5429881813.html === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === aTOmicDuDe is now known as AtomicPunk === asac_ is now known as asac [21:47] hi, I'm trying to get onto ubuntu mobile (installed the packages) but it doesn't seem to work [21:47] do I need some kind of alpha image ? [21:49] anyone ? [21:55] bert_: what did you install it onto [21:56] I just took a clean 32-bit ubuntu 7.10 [21:56] and then installed ubuntu-mobile and ubuntu-mobile-dev [21:59] nrp ??? [21:59] are you using it with Xephyr? [22:01] nrp: what's Xephyr ? [22:04] lets you run X inside X [22:05] theres a guide to using ubuntu-mobile with it somewhere on the ubuntu wiki [22:05] really [22:05] I didn't get the information that was on there [22:05] (I'm not a native-english speaker [22:05] ) [22:07] I have to go now [22:07] thx for your help === cpro1 is now known as cprov-ZzZ [22:29] davidm ping [22:35] Hi GrueMaster [22:37] I got a note from Don re USB Client. [22:37] I just got the source tree this afternoon (everyone was sending me links but no access - doh). [22:38] What did you need info on?