[00:15] does mythtranscode let you cut out the leadin to a clip? [00:17] yup [00:17] hrm [00:20] where does mythtranscode log to?> [00:22] check /var/log? [00:22] probably /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log gets it [00:22] is it on its own or in with the front / backend logs [00:22] o [00:24] 2008-03-10 19:51:05.884 Unknown video codec: [00:25] that does not sound good [00:28] this from firewire? [00:28] yea [00:28] some firewire recordings i havent been able to transcode in the past [00:28] but this was ages ago [00:28] that i did firewire [00:30] i'm gonna see if it works withou the cutlist in place [00:33] Result: 34816, Command was mythtranscode --mpeg2 --honorcutlist -c 2750 -s 2008-03-09T16:30:00 -o /var/lib/mytharchive//work/1/tmp [00:34] could that extra slash in the output param screw that sommand up? [00:34] *command [00:34] not afaik [00:38] i'm seeing a floating point exception right before mythtranscode fails in the mythburn.log file [00:51] staind9383, what cpu? [00:51] a64 x2 3600+ [00:52] when i try to transcode the vid through the frontend, the transcode job errors out also [00:54] failed status 139 in frontend [00:56] are you on the am64 builds? [00:56] yea [00:56] or the 32 bit.. [00:56] hm [00:56] thats really bzr then [00:56] does apport catch the FPE? [00:56] i have the transcode profiles on the defaulst... maybe that is it [00:56] i'm not sure what that means [00:57] floating point exception [00:57] apport is a service that catches crashes [00:57] ahh [00:57] can you look in /var/crash [00:57] and see if a report was made? [00:57] sure [00:58] there are 2 reports [00:58] -rw------- 1 sean sean 6492336 2008-03-10 19:37 _usr_bin_mythtranscode.1000.crash [00:58] -rw------- 1 mythtv mythtv 12815182 2008-03-10 20:45 _usr_bin_mythtranscode.107.crash [00:59] great! [00:59] check and see if you have apport-gtk installed [01:00] ok i installed [01:00] okay reboot [01:00] it starts with your login and there is a boot service for it [01:00] with any luck it will tell you hey i've got some crash reports [01:00] what you want me to do with them [01:02] i didnt get any notification or anything [01:04] okay there is a cmd line tool to force the crash report generation then [01:04] /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -c FILE [01:04] should do it.. [01:08] send to developers? [01:11] that's us :) [01:11] it will do a fancy retrace on the crash report [01:12] i see a whole buncha stack traces [01:12] i tried to cat the file before i did the apport thing, ended up with a mess of a terminal screen [01:13] oh yeah. [01:13] so do that on both your crashes [01:13] hopefully in the future it will make those automatically [01:14] but once the retracing service runs on the bug that you submit, we'll see if the trace is any godo [01:14] good even [01:18] i'm going to attach my backend logs and mythburn.log also [01:18] might as well i guess [01:25] bug number 200818 [02:00] superm1: what is the bug retracing service? [02:00] staind9383, it will automatically handle things for your bug [02:00] i see [02:01] btw is 0.21 going to show as an upgrade through the apt-get command? [02:01] staind9383, you're not on 0.21? [02:01] no, .20 [02:02] oh well things may be much better in 0.21 [02:02] it will show up in gutsy-backports within the next 1-2 days [02:02] either that or its available via a weekly build [02:03] to get it before then, just download off of here? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mythtv/0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1 [02:04] yeah if the binaries have showed up there you can [02:32] nick JoshT76 [02:32] hi === MythbuntuGuest93 is now known as JoshT76 [02:34] got a new pvr-150 with the mce remote, but the commands dont repeat [02:34] like the volume up, if i hold it only one bump up of the volue, it doesn't keep going, any suggestions? [02:38] is there a 0.21 branch for the weekly builds, or is the 0.20 one that is listed on the mythbuntu site the only one? [02:41] staind9383, see /t. it's explained there [02:41] hi superm1 [02:41] see where? [02:41] staind9383, in the topic [02:41] o [02:42] there is a url to gossamer threads [02:42] i explained how things are going to work for it [02:42] hi JoshT76 [02:42] how can i get the commands to repeat from the remote? [02:43] see mythbuntu-lirc-generator --help [02:43] there is a delay and repeat feature [02:43] you can tweak them from there [02:44] ty [02:46] ok, little problem, and I know it's my fault... [02:47] the command: 'nuvexport-xvid --nice 10 --input="%FILE%"' doesn't work [02:48] "Input filename does not match the MythTV recording name format and no matching file could be found in the MythTV database." [02:50] did you install nuvexport? [02:51] rhpot1991: yes [02:52] check your backend log and see what file it is trying to use, then verify it exists [02:52] /var/log/mythtv [02:52] rhpot1991: I don't see any output from nuvexport in that log [04:22] superm1, you ever come up with any idea why my /dev/video0 pulled a houdini? [04:22] tuvook, if your -12 kernel isn't booting, you've got bigger issues to worry about [04:22] IceWewe: ah you are executing that by hand and not a user job right? [04:23] superm1, how so if -11 was working perfectly? Also, I did not say -12 was not booting, but booting without any text that was visible. [04:24] I'd hate to have unrelated issues conflated you know? [04:24] well than ssh into it [04:24] again [04:24] I can't [04:24] why? [04:24] its the only box? [04:24] no windows box or anything ? [04:24] I would have already done so:( [04:25] tuvook, well there was a "newer" -12 kernel today [04:25] there has been 2 of them [04:25] did you try the second yet? [04:26] yes, no change, I was hoping the newer one would have fixed the issue [04:26] I tried the -rt and generic [04:26] well your boots from those kernels should still show up /var/log/syslog [04:26] so you can retrieve information on what was happening... [04:26] right now I'm at a completely different locale, and that box is off, so I can't check on it or ssh into it [04:27] these types of snags are disheartening [04:27] it worked right up until 1500 yesterday [04:27] nothing in dmesg [04:27] only the myth log showed no capture devices [04:27] but no reason why [04:28] well hopefully its nothing major, i mean you are the first (only) person to report these types of issues [04:29] great [04:29] besides the two links I posted earlier [04:29] I had googled those [04:29] from 1.5 yrs ago [04:29] so its not so strange [04:29] but even those post never recieved a reply [04:29] well those aren't necessarily related though [04:29] which is a bad omen [04:29] a LOT has changed on ivtv [04:30] not neccessarily no [04:30] since yesterday that much has changed? [04:30] and the fact that you have other issues going on at the same time [04:30] those were 2006 [04:30] those two links you posted [04:30] kernels not working in ubuntu has not be a rare thing from my experience [04:31] thats why I keep at least two old kernels around [04:31] both the links were 2006, i just double checked [04:31] right [04:31] so nothing should have changed that much in ivtv to have affected me? [04:31] but as for the since "yesterday", the -12 kernel has been in development for some time [04:31] so the changelog is a bit long [04:31] so its not really a "since yesterday" kind of thiing [04:32] its more of a over the last few weeks [04:32] :/ [04:32] just the -12 was /released' yesterday [04:32] and as for kernels not working ubuntu not being a rare thing, do realize that our git tree track's upstream's git tree [04:32] they go hand in hand [04:32] we take a snapshot at the release, and then pull in fixes [04:32] so if anything it should be more feature filled/stable than others [04:40] I have someone turning that box on, going to try to ssh into it from very remote [06:39] hmm, mornng all [06:39] morning [06:49] superm1, I guess the builds ara happening somewhere? [06:49] hi camelreef [06:49] you mean the backports? [06:50] yeah [06:50] an ubuntu1 or ubuntu2 [06:50] for Gutsy [06:50] well they got built, they are considered NEW though [06:50] so they need one more ack from an archive admin before they're let through [06:50] are they still on the PPA or in the real build queues? [06:50] real build queues [06:51] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mythtv/0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1 [06:51] OK, I'll remove the PPA source and wait for the backports to come in [06:51] should hopefully be today/tomorrow [06:51] cool [06:53] anything was done to tha backend since the PPA? mine died during the night [06:53] only to the frontend for the dvd bug [06:54] ah [06:54] ok [06:54] Mar 11 06:42:07 favia kernel: [44620.299874] mythbackend[16174] general protection rip:2b86aa9a4cb9 rsp:51823df0 error:0 [06:54] ooh yuck [06:54] out of memory? [06:54] or what was the cause? [06:55] don't know [06:55] and did you get an apport crash report out of it? [06:55] I've seen the process grow quite a lot yesterday [06:55] like how much?' [06:55] unusually, unacceptably? [06:55] from 60 to 200 MB [06:55] whew [06:55] that's pretty bad i think [06:55] do you by chance have a lot of other things on your network that speak UPnP? [06:56] there was some other guy on the channel talking about it oo [06:56] I have nothing [06:56] UPnP-wise [06:56] that I know of [06:56] well maybe consider turning off UPnP in /etc/default/mythtv-backend then [06:56] that is what i heard the cause to be [06:56] but you're only the second instance i've heard [06:57] got the .crash file [06:58] want it in a bug ? [07:01] yeah [07:01] file it with apport though [07:01] on your way [07:01] so the retracing service catches it [07:01] ah [07:01] /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -c FILE [07:03] Sorry, the program "mythbackend" closed unexpectedly [07:03] Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers. [07:03] well that's not as fun [07:03] I assumed... [07:03] how big is the crash report? [07:03] 32K [07:04] that's it? [07:04] yup [07:04] well i doubt there is anything useful in a 32k crash report. [07:04] the machine must have run out of RAM to even do a proper report [07:04] usually those are 8 megs or bigger [07:05] how do you stop UPnP ? [07:05] edit /etc/default/mythtv-backend [07:05] and you add some switches [07:05] --noupnp [07:06] gets added into the appropriate variable [07:06] in EXTRA-ARGS ? [07:07] that sounds right [07:07] make sure you uncomment it [07:15] camelreef, thanks for sticking up for us in that thread. I'm gonna head to bed. hopefully that UPnP disable helps you [07:22] good nght [07:23] I show appreciation the way I can [08:53] hi im having troubble upgrading to 8.04 I get an error : failed to fetch http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/db4.3/libdb4.3_4.3.29-11_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch [08:53] any ideas [08:54] ? [09:22] Hello ppl, im getting error "Hash Sum mismatch" when i try to apt-get update, can anyone shed some light? [09:23] Anybody? [10:08] hi all can anyone tell me how long they think it will be until the new version of mythtv which has recently been released will hit the ubuntu 7.10 repo? [10:13] M0nk3Eee, which ubuntu 7.10 repo? [10:13] M0nk3Eee: you can grab trunk from repos now if youre in a rush [10:14] they've proven pretty stable for me [10:14] 0.21.0-0ubuntu2~gutsy1 [10:14] PUBLISHED: Gutsy pocket Backports in component multiverse and section graphics [10:14] * Published 12 hours ago [10:24] jduggan, i already have mythtv installed from the universe repo i think its version 0.20.2 and its working fine but i don´t really know how i would go about installing the newer version [10:25] when they replease iet in the universe repo then i guess i will just get an update notification to automate the process [10:26] i do have some experience of installing from source but i wasn´t sure what would happen when i use synaptic to remove my current myth setup, will it remove the sql database as well? [10:28] multiverse, not universe [10:28] and there are five multiverses. gutsy, gutsy-security, gutsy-updates, gutsy-proposed, and gutsy-backports [10:29] 0.21 has already been published in gutsy-backports [10:29] okay, they have always confused a bit [10:30] gutsy is the software which was in the release at time of release, and is immutable. gutsy-security are security fixes. gutsy-updates are updated packages which may break functionality of older versions, but are generaly desireable. gutsy-proposed are updates which haven't yet been deemed worthy of putting into one of the other sections. gutsy-backports are *major* updates to apps that will change behaviour guaranteed [10:30] okay, so i should be able to enable the gutsy-backports in the sources file then run and update [10:30] system/administration/software sources. updates tab, tick the box [10:34] will the update procedure remove my myth first? or simply upgrade the version to the newest ones, I guess it wont mess with my directory structures and settings file, for instance the configs telling it where to store recorded programs and where to look for divx and the like [10:37] Am i right in thinking the .mythtv folder in my home directory contains all the custom configs and this will be enought to configure the new version installed in order to make it seem very similar to my current setup with just with the added features? [10:43] all your settings are stored in the database [10:44] .mythtv serves no real purpose anymore on 0.21 anyway, since backend discovery is automatic [10:54] thanks for you help directhex|work [11:32] directhex|work: how does mytht front end finds the myth back end? [11:33] hugolp, UPnP [11:44] ok [11:57] speaking of upnp, my xbox 360 doesnt find any videos from my mythvideo store (which myth sees fine), and theyre all xvid/divx - does anyone know of any reason why? any bugs etc? [12:02] should work fine. are the files in the mythvideo database, or are you using file browser mode? [12:14] theyre in the database [12:29] hey all [12:32] I have comcast for my tv service. It's not digital so I only get the first 60 channels or so. I was wondering two things. What card should I get if I want to get both HD and the normal stations. I only have about 10 HD stations, it's all my local stuff. And the second thing is, what card has the best quality? I have two pv150's and one pv500. On my 42"LCD it doesn't look as good as when I'm watching tv through just the tv. I adju [12:48] On the site it says that 8.04 Alpha 3 is not compatible with any 0.20.2 distro. Does this then include the backend? [12:49] sebrock: yes. [12:49] sorry it does NOT work with 0.20.2 backends? [12:49] yes, it does not work with 0.20.2 backends [12:49] why? [12:50] Has the backend changed that much? [12:50] yes [12:50] protocol version and the database schema has changed [12:51] any good way to update this on the backend? or is it installation all over again? [12:52] is your backend using gutsy? you can use the mythbuntu trunk repository, although.. i think you can just use the backports repository [12:52] my backend is a manual install on feisty [12:55] update your manuel install then? [12:55] manual* [12:56] hum. [12:56] i just read the link in the topic (the one pointing to the mythtv-users ML). [12:56] mmm,... yeah... will that be seamless? or is it a lot of hassle. I think I tried it once and everything got erased from scratch [12:57] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/321676#321676<- i shouldn't have read it. [12:57] sebrock: um, i don't know. you installed it from source, so youhave to update it :) [12:58] sebrock: maybe you can "make uninstall" first from your old source [12:58] and then compile the new stuff [12:58] mmm what a hassle [12:58] you can even recompile the 0.21 packages on feisty. [12:58] I was just waiting for a new frontend [12:58] Thought it would work fine with my backend [12:59] nope [13:05] shait [13:11] sebrock: remove your manual install and rebuild the packages from hardy i'd say [13:11] and get a backup first, of course [13:16] Yeah, I just wonder what will happen to all my saved settings /MythWeb etc... [13:16] saved settings? they're in the database usually [13:16] not all of them. channel icons etc are not [13:17] sebrock_: the mythtv in hardy is basically a prerelease of 0.21 I think. [13:17] yeah - you said that I have to update the backend in order for this to work [13:17] I got standalone frontend / backend [13:17] 0.20.20070821-1 branches/release-0-20-fixes [13:17] channel icons should be preserved, though. mythtv usually doesn't go around and deletes stuff in ~/.mythtv/ randomly :) [13:17] thats what my backend looks like [13:18] what about the settings in DB on backend? [13:18] the DB is upgraded. get a database backup so you can go back easily [13:18] ok so nothing gets removed? [13:19] usually not, unless something goes wrong [13:19] ok [13:19] so in order to upgrade my backend, how would I proceed? first backup of cause [13:20] maybe wait for a backport for feisty? [13:21] there won't be a backport for feisty, at least not an official one [13:22] oh [13:23] so... [13:26] I'm not very good on this... what would be the best way for me to upgrade to .21 backend from 0.20.2 I have now thats taken from Feisty rep? [13:30] oh, so it's not a mnual install? [13:30] i thought youhad installed from source [13:30] ehm, no I had my thoughts elsewhere sorry [13:30] its from the feisty rep, was a time ago tho [13:31] rebuild the hardy packages or file a bug report, maybe we'll do a feisty backport too.. it's not that hard since it builds just fine, just someone needs to push it to the ppa [13:31] (and i cant do that) [13:32] ok If I decide to rebuild the hardy packages, how is that done... [13:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu [13:34] sebrock_: ^^ [13:34] I've got some strange bug with latest 8.04 beta of mythbuntu. All OSD Elements just disappeared. [13:34] tnx will check it out [13:34] sebrock_: report it :) [13:35] laga where to=? [13:35] sorry, i meant swien [13:36] I just wanted to know if its already a known thing. [13:36] sebrock_: although i don't know if it'll be able to backport from hardy easily, you'll have to figure that out [13:37] ok === hitme666 is now known as hitme666|AFK [13:48] laga: well there is nothing to backport yet :/ [13:52] sebrock_: use the drb-src line for the trunk PPA then [13:52] sebrock_: use the deb-src line for the trunk PPA then [13:53] hmmm... [13:55] I wonder if its not time for a dist-upgrade [13:55] but then again... that usually means a lot of hassle with different stuff [13:55] :) [13:55] yup [13:55] my backend is feisty, too :) [13:55] for exactly that reason [13:57] so have you updated? [13:57] i'm building my own packages (whichi can't give you to you because i'm using two not-so-stable patches) [13:57] ok... [13:58] gah [13:58] is there no way to make a permanent solution thats not depending on the dist that much [13:59] it doesn't depend on the distro, you just need to rebuild the packages. or the mythbuntu people cacan do it.. we just didn't think anyone was still using feisty [14:00] perhaps some dependencies are not available in feisty (qt4?) [14:01] no, it builds just fine. [14:01] mythtv does not use qt4 (yet) [14:06] laga, what would you suggest? Maybe it's time for me to learn how to build it myself... [14:06] anyhow, If I build it myself, will that be an upgrade or will it mess with my current settings? [14:10] * laga blinks [14:10] sebrock_: i think you have just asked me those settings for the third time today. both of them. [14:12] mm ok... so they will be fine [14:12] Im just worried, that happened to me once and I spent a few days to get it all back [14:12] had no backups at that point [14:13] about that, i'm building a media center; what do you think is the better way to be up to date: use a packaged version with mythbuntu, use compilation with gentoo, ... ? [14:13] could you point me to where I can get more info on building it myself [14:18] raceme: well this is an ubuntu IRC channel so most people here will tell you ubuntu [14:18] sebrock_: use prevu or pbuilder or debuild if you don't mind installing all those -dev packages on your normal system. i'm sure the process of rebuilding packages is documented at wiki.ubuntu.com [14:18] raceme: http://www.mythbuntu.com/auto-builds has weekly stable and trunk builds [14:18] sebrock_: if you're scared of losing your system, make a backup :) [14:19] should be up to date enough [14:42] laga: pbuilder seems quite straight forward really [14:43] sebrock_: unless you want to build the plugins :) you will need the D70results hook so pbuilder "sees" your mythtv packages you've built [14:44] god dammit, I knew iit... [14:44] D70results? [14:44] it's not hard :) [14:45] sebrock_: see the ubuntu wiki.. [14:45] anyone have experience streaming to xbox 360's here? [14:45] surlyjake: kinda [14:46] have a good link or some solid advice? [14:46] it only does mpeg4/h264/wmv that live in your myth recordings dir [14:46] s/recordings/videos/ [14:46] laga, I cant find anything with that tag.... [14:46] I'm working on an upgrade to mythexport to be able to export your recordings so they will stream to it properly [14:46] so it doesn't "transcode" your media to windows friendly formats? [14:46] nope [14:46] rhpot1991_laptop: thanks i didn't know this builds... i'm at ease with debian / ubuntu so I prefer this way :) [14:46] you need to do that yourself [14:47] so what is the feature called that needs to be enabled? [14:48] surlyjake, in order to do what? [14:48] surlyjake: its not a feature, you either need to do it yourself or wait for me to finish it [14:48] will show up here at some point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport [14:48] sorry... so to stream to an xbox what is the feature called that needs to be enabled? [14:48] surlyjake, UPnP [14:48] ok. thanks. [14:49] surlyjake, it ought to work as standard [14:49] but only as I described it above [14:49] indeed [14:49] press X or Y to switch media source, then pick the mythtv machine [14:49] X [14:49] from the video section of the media blade [14:50] i forget the xbox button naming conventions. i grew up with the SNES [14:50] I remember its X cause thats the blue one [14:50] and I was just messing with it a few days ago [14:53] wait, laga I just want to make the backend package... The frontend I use the one from your site... [14:54] That should imply I dont need to worry about the plugins? [14:58] as long as you don't want mythweb, sure [14:59] how is that? [14:59] oh yeah right thats on the backend [15:00] does that need recompiling aswell? I already have that installed... is that not working either then? [15:07]