[00:37] <ubotu> New bug: #200805 in xorg-server (main) "xorg uses laptop video BIOS 'Panel Size' for external monitors, so apps end up confined to small space in top left of screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200805
[00:45] <ubotu> New bug: #200807 in linux (main) "Nvidia driver not loading in Hardy 2.6.24-12 (dup-of: 200797)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200807
[01:32] <ubotu> New bug: #199260 in gnome-settings-daemon (main) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV when using radeonhd driver (dup-of: 198951)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199260
[01:36] <bryce> tjaalton: cool, the patch for bug 199700 looks like it will clear up one of the xrandr bugs I noticed in testing the xrandr gui
[01:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199700 in xorg-server "xrandr changes break composite on 2nd head" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199700
[02:15] <bryce> hrm, the patches I backported seem not to fix the issue.  rats.  I am not running across other likely candidate patches tho...  maybe just need a way to shut off the xrandr stuff for these drivers
[05:57] <ubotu> New bug: #200868 in nvidia-settings (universe) "nvidia-settings doesn't have permissions to write xorg.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200868
[06:11] <tjaalton> bryce: I'll probably pull in all the changes that are in the server-1.4-branch, and cherry pick some that were proposed
[06:11] <bryce> tjaalton: ok
[06:11] <tjaalton> like a couple of modesetting patches from intel
[06:13] <tjaalton> bryce: what do you think of libx11-1.1.4? it was released last week, and contains a bunch of manpage fixes, a couple of important patches and some Compose-file fixes
[06:16] <bryce> the patches might be nice, esp. if they close any of our high/critical bugs
[06:16] <bryce> is it mostly a bugfix release?
[06:17] <tjaalton> yes
[06:17] <tjaalton> fixes bug 66104
[06:17] <bryce> in that case I'd support it, if it's not too late in the freeze
[06:17]  * tjaalton slaps ubotu
[06:19] <tjaalton> I'll test it first
[06:26] <tjaalton> I also filed a couple of driver sync-requests (nv, aiptek). also we'd need the latest wacom from upstream, but I haven't been able to make it compile :/
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #13346 in xkeyboard-config (main) "[xkb] new japanese layout" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13346
[06:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 66104 in libx11 "[Gutsy] scim: input freezes in various applications under XIM mode" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66104
[06:53] <bryce> tjaalton: the xrandr gui bugs are a bit perplexing to me; I am waiting for further feedback from testers but don't understand why it is breaking on radeonhd, which *should* support xrandr 1.2.  Unfortunately the backtraces provided don't give enough context to figure it out.
[06:53] <bryce> meanwhile I've been reviewing other bugs/patches
[07:21] <bryce> tjaalton: would you mind uploading bartman's package update from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amd/+bug/197069?
[07:21] <bryce> (if it's not already)
[07:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197069 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "xserver-xorg-video-amd: wide resolutions don't work" [Undecided,New] 
[07:44] <ubotu> New bug: #200886 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "gnome applications do not detect multiple screens" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200886
[07:44] <tjaalton> bryce: sure
[07:47] <tjaalton> I read from the newspaper that the gas price in the US might advance to $4/gallon this year.. I wonder what would happen if it was $8 like it is here :)
[07:48] <tjaalton> damnit compiz/nvidia for eating my memory
[07:48] <tjaalton> shower->
[07:58] <bryce> tjaalton: maybe for every $1 it increases while under Republicans, we invade another oil producing nation?
[07:59] <bryce> tjaalton: I've just finished reviewing all the xorg bugs-with-patches listed at http://daniel.holba.ch/really-fix-it/.  
[08:00] <bryce> most turned out to be invalid.  Some were out of date, others weren't really patches (xorg.conf's, etc. tagged as patches), others were patches rejected by subsequent review comments, etc.  There were just a few (like the -amd patch) that looked worth applying
[08:00] <bryce> once daniel's page updates we should see the list trimmed down a lot
[08:08] <tjaalton> yeah I took a brief look at it yesterday
[08:08] <bryce> tjaalton: here is some additional background on the above patch:  http://www.jukie.net/~bart/blog/fixing-x-for-geode-lx
[08:12] <tjaalton> ah that one
[08:12] <bryce> ah, check Martin-Eric's reply there
[08:13] <bryce> sounds like we could just sync 2.7.7.7 to get it
[08:15] <tjaalton> yep, maybe wait for that
[08:31] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I'll just add the two patches for current libx11, saves all the paperwork
[08:34] <bryce> yeah
[08:34] <bryce> btw, today is Inkscape 0.46 release day :-)
[08:34] <tjaalton> congrats :)
[08:34] <bryce> or at least, release for Linux.  Windows still has some critical bugs so I'm going to hold off on doing the PR for a couple weeks to give the windows porters some additional time
[08:35] <tjaalton> it's been a while since I used it.. designed a custom label for a beer bottle
[08:35] <bryce> hopefully there's still time to get it into Hardy, Fedora, Debian, etc.
[08:35] <bryce> nice :-)
[08:35] <bryce> hey, with 0.46 you can now also use it for editing/creating PDFs with text and graphics
[08:39] <tjaalton> cool
[09:38] <bryce> night
[09:38] <soren> No, it's not.
[09:40] <tjaalton> heh
[09:51] <Ng> backlight support isn't really X's problem, is it
[09:52] <tjaalton> no, I think it might be some drm changes that broke it
[09:54] <Ng> well, it may well be that it's just not supported on this hardware yet
[09:54] <Ng> acpi is seeing the key events and updating the bar thingy onscreen, but the brightness doesn't change
[09:55] <tjaalton> it's broken for me too
[09:55] <Ng> interesting
[09:55] <tjaalton> has been working fine before
[09:55] <Ng> I don't have a working datapoint on this to know, but I suppose I could boot a gutsy livecd or somehting
[09:55] <tjaalton> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/197929
[09:56] <Ng> thanks :)
[09:56] <Ng> I can live without sound if I have to, but not burning out my retinas is quite useful ;)
[09:57] <tjaalton> for mee it's too dim :/
[09:57] <tjaalton> like 30% or so
[09:57] <Ng> ouch. I did get that the first time I booted today, but I rebooted just now and it's gone back to always being 100%
[10:01] <tjaalton> that's worse :)
[10:02] <Ng> I'd rather burn my display into the wall behind me than not be able to read it at all ;)
[10:02] <tjaalton> hehe
[10:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[10:23] <Ng> hmm, why is that set at Incomplete?
[10:24] <ubotu> New bug: #200876 in linux (main) "Graphic, Nvidia on Kernel 2.6.12-14 not detected   (dup-of: 200797)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200876
[10:24] <ubotu> New bug: #200917 in linux (main) "kernel 2.6.24-12 very slow and not nVidia support  (dup-of: 200797)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200917
[11:08] <seb128> is there anything obviously wrong there, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5571 ?
[11:09] <seb128> the corresponding config is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5570
[11:09] <seb128> that's weird, the xorg.conf specifies nvidia and the log has vesa without nvidia trace
[11:10] <tjaalton> that's failsafe for you :)
[11:10] <tjaalton> check .old
[11:10] <seb128> shouldn't that display the displayconfig-gtk interface on failsafe?
[11:10] <tjaalton> it doesn't?
[11:10] <tjaalton> it should yes
[11:12] <tjaalton> there have been reports about nvidia being unable to load, but no updates there either
[11:12] <tjaalton> other than the kernel
[11:13] <tjaalton> that log is from gutsy with feisty kernel, so no wonder it doesn't work
[11:13] <seb128> he has geforce 6200, apparently nv works but breaks when activating glx
[11:13] <seb128> and nvidia doesn't work either
[11:13] <tjaalton> Current Operating System: Linux JLS 2.6.20-16-386 #2 Tue Feb 12 05:38:06 UTC 2008 i686
[11:13] <tjaalton> he needs to compile nvidia-glx* against that
[11:14] <tjaalton> I thought it was hardy
[11:15] <seb128> no, he's using gutsy
[11:16] <tjaalton> but with a custom kernel, so it's up to him to fix that :)
[11:18] <seb128> linux didn't get upgraded apparently
[11:18] <seb128> he likely removed linux-image or whatever is responsive for the transition
[11:18] <tjaalton> yep
[11:19] <seb128> thanks
[11:19] <tjaalton> np
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #200946 in xorg-server (main) "Can't change screen resolution" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200946
[11:53] <Ng> tjaalton: I just updated to the new -intel and it's a hell of a lot slower :/
[11:54] <Ng> (I mean the new package that update-manager offered me this morning. I guess it's not doing the greedy thing for this chipset?)
[11:56] <tjaalton> yep, known
[11:56] <tjaalton> ..by now :)
[11:56] <tjaalton> greedy is not on
[11:57] <tjaalton> the patch is broken somehow
[11:59] <Ng> ok
[12:02] <tjaalton> hrm, I shut down compiz and restart it again and it uses default ordering for desktops again (4 in one row)
[12:02] <tjaalton> againagain
[12:04] <tjaalton> ah, this is metacity :)
[12:04] <tjaalton> heh
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #200965 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Intel driver does not allow all resultions (and conflicts with 915resolution)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200965
[13:53] <ubotu> New bug: #200463 in xorg (main) "my monitor is out to sign to install ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200463
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #200904 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[Hardy 6][regression]  xserver-xorg-video-intel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200904
[13:57] <ubotu> New bug: #200884 in nvidia-settings (universe) "nvidia-settings does not detect active nvidia driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200884
[13:59] <tjaalton> mvo: did you get my message on #u-d? the original patch with TexturedVideo disabled works much better, although all the effects are disabled on top of the video frame
[13:59] <tjaalton> but at least it's very snappy, and CPU usage is low
[13:59] <mvo> tjaalton: aha, that sounds good. yeah, all effects are disabled then, but I think that this is fine
[13:59] <tjaalton> yep
[14:00] <mvo> tjaalton: I was told vista does the same when it plays videos with aero (or whatever their compiz is called)
[14:00] <tjaalton> mvo: hmm, I'll test :)
[14:01] <tjaalton> (yes, my laptop has vista too..)
[14:01] <mvo> tjaalton: I don't have a install to test that :)
[14:01] <tjaalton> it came with the laptop, and it's the only windows at my disposal, so I need it to program my remote :)
[14:02] <mvo> haha
[14:02] <mvo> yeah :)
[14:03] <tjaalton> oh and to read/change the values of my car on-board diagnostics comp. :)
[14:03] <tjaalton> s/of/on/
[14:04] <tjaalton> hmm, now I need some video clip
[14:17] <tjaalton> mvo: the aero effects seem to work, blur/translucent window borders etc on top of a video frame
[14:17] <tjaalton> but <shrug>, who cares
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #201032 in xorg (main) "[hardy][regression]xorg gets wrong screen dpi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201032
[16:34] <ubotu> New bug: #201050 in xorg-server (main) "dexconf using macintosh78 instead of macbook78" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201050
[17:17] <bryce> morning
[17:22] <tjaalton> morning, check the intel patch, it doesn't seem to work :)
[17:36] <bryce> dah
[18:13] <bryce> tjaalton: perhaps we should just revert the patch for now; I don't know that I'll have time to look into it today
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #201076 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Dual-Head Monitor Refresh Issue on Second Screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201076
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #201085 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia 3D" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201085
[18:39] <tjaalton> bryce: yeah, I can revert it. I also tested the overlay patch for 965, works great
[18:40] <bryce> ok
[18:42] <bryce> yeah the overlay patch sounds good to include
[19:08] <ubotu> New bug: #201103 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy] B43 Performance very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201103
[19:10] <ubotu> New bug: #77064 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "patch allowing lrm builds against custom kernels" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77064
[19:13] <ubotu> New bug: #200813 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "dead keys broken in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200813
[19:15] <ubotu> New bug: #89211 in libx11 (main) "Monitor & Display (in System Settings) is always crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89211
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #96703 in libx11 (main) "Kubuntu System Settings crashes on exit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96703
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #186247 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "[Hardy]sun-java6-bin: suit.properties.tmp (Permission denied) (dup-of: 87947)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186247
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #186355 in ubuntu "hardy, locking assertion failure when running netbeans (dup-of: 87947)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186355
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #186356 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "hardy, locking assertion failure when running netbeans (dup-of: 87947)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186356
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #188906 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "[hardy alpha4]Some trouble with sun-java (dup-of: 87947)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188906
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #200951 in ubuntu "2.6.24-12 sound fix breaks x-server resolution (dup-of: 200797)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200951
[21:48] <ubotu> New bug: #198702 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Screensaver flashes the screen and does not look good" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198702