[00:00] <Administ1ador> Pelo: thx
[00:00] <derdui_> yes, but 30Euros are too much for such an old printer^^
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tardy, As specified in the release notes, "Connecting a display device that supports 1680x1050 to a system running Linux may result in a maximum display resolution of 1280x1024 only being available
[00:00] <lukus> tobias: can you use compiz etc?
[00:00] <tobias> lukus: no
[00:01] <Pelo> Flare183, just stick around, eventualy someone will ask a question you know the answer to
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> derdui_,   Your decision.  I wont buy a canon printer again any time soon.
[00:01] <Flare183> Pelo: ok
[00:01] <Pelo> Dr_Willis, say it ain't so ...
[00:01]  * Pelo pats his Canon BJ-230 
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> derdui_,  its possible a newer verison of cups will include the drivers for the thing.
[00:02] <sander_m> rhs: I just edited xorg to enable composite and rebooted. cross-fingers >.<
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> Pelo,  after the disasters ive had with their last few printers and linux.. I will stik with HP.
[00:02] <Pelo> Dr_Willis, my bj230 is quite old
[00:03]  * Pelo is starting to realise taht mose of his toys are quite old,  he needs money to buy new ones 
[00:03] <derdui_> hmm.... gutenprint and foomatic dont support my printer... and i have allready reinstalled cups
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> Pelo,  i got a HP laserjet 6L - its 12+ yrs old. :
[00:03] <Flare183> Pelo: hehe
[00:03] <Pelo> derdui_,  doesn't the ip2000 work for you ?
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> derdui_,  a new VERSION of cups might support it. check cups.org.  then again - it may not. :)
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> derdui_,  or it may be you need to use some other similer driver.
[00:04] <derdui_> yes pelo
[00:04] <Pelo> Dr_Willis, about the same for my cannon, but it does 11x17 in bw
[00:04] <tardy> Jack_Sparrow, alright, I was able to get 1680x1050 on both, i received a "Desktop effect could not be enabled" when I tried after that
[00:04] <sander_m> rhs: Boohoo :-( `fglrxinfo` says that the renderer is still Mesa indirect
[00:04] <_temp> I have installed ubuntu.  why doesn't it ask for root password. It only asks for user passwd?
[00:04] <FJSS> does anyone know how to put a searchbar in azureus??
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> _temp,  thats such a Faq. :) root is not allowed direct logging in. there is NO root password
[00:05] <Flare183> !sudo | _temp
[00:05] <ubot3> _temp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> !root | _temp
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> tardy, Correct.. As I said...   but if you drop the res to what I showed you you should be able to get effects
[00:05] <ubot3> _temp: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:05] <Flare183> wow
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> 1280x1024
[00:05] <rhs> sander_m: what ? I have the same card, compiz works
[00:05] <tardy> thank you again Jack_Sparrow, I will try that out
[00:05] <gretsch> anyone know how to enable automounting of CDs for users in Gutsy?
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[00:05] <Pelo> FJSS,  the ppl in #azureus-support probably know
[00:05] <sander_m> rhs: Not for me, apparently. And trying to run glxgears crashes (and restarts) X
[00:06] <soundray> gretsch: it's an option in System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[00:06] <Pelo> gretsch, it should work by default
[00:06] <sander_m> rhs: This is why I always buy Nvidia. `apt-et nvidia-glx` and never worry again :-)
[00:06] <gretsch> it doesn't work by default
[00:06] <gretsch> i will look there soundray
[00:06] <Y-Town> How do I make a window open maximized when I select an app like firefox?  Nothing opens maximized
[00:07] <gretsch> shows it as checked that it *should* work
[00:07] <Pelo> Y-Town, it's a bit trickier the in windows,  you need to use devilspie and writte a little file for it
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Y-Town,  right click on the title bar - i think thers some options in there to set stuff like that.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> or was that in KDE. i forget which can do what.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> many window managers can rember such settings.
[00:07] <mr_marvin> hi all. i managet to install ati's latest drivers and needed libraries and all works fine, but "glxinfo | grep direct" returns "Xlib: connection to :1.0 refused by server; Error: unable to open display :1.0". what should i do?
[00:08] <Pelo> gretsch, cd usualy mount automaticlay to  /media , put a cd in , and browse your way to /media ,  it mightjust be they are not showing up on your desktop , that is easily fixed
[00:08] <soundray> gretsch: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then insert the CD and look for any errors in the log
[00:08] <Y-Town> Dr_Willis: I think thats kde
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> Y-Town,  one of the reasons i perfer kde to gnome. :()
[00:08] <Pelo> Dr_Willis, you are killing me
[00:08] <rhs> sander_m: do you have a "Load glx" in the Module Section of your xorg.conf ?
[00:08] <oneforall> whats the best app for screen capture movie for youtube?
[00:08] <TeslaDave> Does anyone know if I can reinstall Gusty, using a sort of system recovery feature, or do I have to simply pop the disc in and rewrite the harddrive
[00:09]  * Pelo is in the mood for a little banter toniight
[00:09] <soundray> gretsch: or to verify Pelo's suggestion, run 'mount | grep cdrom'
[00:09] <rhs> sander_m: Load "glx", forgot the quotes
[00:09] <emet> TeslaDave, pop the disc and rewrite the hardware, try to backup your data first
[00:09] <gretsch> soundray, i tail'd that file
[00:09] <derdui_> pelo do you know what i could do with my ip2200
[00:09] <Pelo> TeslaDave, just put the cd in and install again, put your /home folder on a different partiton to recover your data and settings
[00:10] <emet> TeslaDave, Hardy adds a "system recoveryish" option, but afaik it's not in gutsy
[00:10] <soundray> TeslaDave: you can of course reinstall from scratch, but have you tried to fix the problem?
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> TeslaDave, Suggestion.. if you reinstall. set up a second partition for use as /home
[00:10] <Y-Town> Dr_Willis: yea.. I just decided to try gnome...  I was playing on kde for about a week.  Just seems that support is better for ubuntu as apposed to kubuntu
[00:10] <sander_m> rhs: My module section is empty. No GLX. No DRI (I think that's supposed to be there too?). Nothing
[00:10] <Pelo> derdui_, I missed the first part of your query ,  ip2200 should work with the ip2000 driver
[00:10] <rhs> sander_m: add "Load "glx""
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Y-Town,  ive not noticed 'support' being any better. :) the docs are just always assuming the user is using gnome from what ive seen.
[00:10] <sander_m> rhs: okay
[00:10] <sfears> TeslaDave, burn your home directory to a dvd... reinstall.. & copy over your burned home drive
[00:10] <gretsch> soundray, can you pm me to cut down the noise here?
[00:11] <gretsch> i cannot pm you
[00:11] <soundray> TeslaDave: to refine Jack_Sparrow's suggestion, shrink your existing root partition, install to the gained space and turn the 'old' root into your new /home
[00:11] <TeslaDave> Thanks all, don't really care about the data
[00:11] <Y-Town> Dr_Willis: yep... thats what I mean  :o)    as a new user it is just easier to follow whats out there  :o)
[00:11] <tardy> how large should the / partition be then?
[00:11] <derdui_> hmmmm yes, i guess the problem is that i cant change it to a local printer.... the field is grey...
[00:11] <soundray> gretsch: we can meet in #ubuntu-classroom, it's quiet
[00:11] <TeslaDave> Was ust wondering if there was an easier option than trying to dig up or re download the ISO
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> TeslaDave, HAving a sep /home will make life easier at a point in the future
[00:11] <Pelo> tardy, 5-10 gig is usualy sufficient
[00:12] <Pelo> tardy, I have 10 gig but only use 3.5
[00:12] <tardy> thank you pelo, i almost did this however I was unsure as to a sufficient size
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Y-Town,  a 'new' user wouldent even think about automaxamizing things. :) im always telling the wife.. maxamize that window so you can SEE what you are doing!
[00:12] <oneforall> hmm guess no one knows:(
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:12] <ArthurArchnix> do you think I should enable bitmap fonts? I'm doing the reconfigure fonts thing... trying to make openoffice look nicer
[00:12] <sfears> what's your question oneforall
[00:12] <Pelo> tardy, it all depends on how many apps you install, and how big they are
[00:12] <oneforall> sfears whats the best app for screen capture movie for youtube?
[00:13] <sfears> ohh.. donutmonster?
[00:13] <Pelo> oneforall, just copy the flash file from your /tmp folder and use convertit to converit it to avi
[00:13] <mr_marvin> let me try again... "glxinfo | grep direct" returns "Xlib: connection to :1.0 refused by server; Error: unable to open display :1.0". what should i do?
[00:13] <Pelo> oneforall, convertit
[00:13] <sander_m> rhs: No effect
[00:13] <oneforall> Pelo no to do the accuall capture of wow etc myself and upload to youtube :D
[00:14] <Pelo> mr_marvin, do a forum search for the error msg
[00:14] <sander_m> rhs: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf? I'll diff it with mine and see if I miss anything important
[00:14] <mr_marvin> Pelo: ok
[00:14] <robdeman_>  hello all -- just built FFMPEG + LIBX264 .... but FFMeg ays 'libx264' unknown encoder.. the lib is in "/usr/local/lib/" but not in "/usr/lib/" ... can it be that FFMPeg is confused and does only look in "/usr/lib/" and not into "/usr/local/lib/"  ?
[00:14] <rogue780> !rtfm
[00:14] <ubot3> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[00:14] <Webby`> hi
[00:15] <Pelo> oneforall, recordmydesktop will let you record what goes on on your desttop, use convert it to turn it in to a flash file
[00:15] <Webby`> how is everyone?
[00:15] <Fruuctis> Hi channel!
[00:15] <rhs> sander_m: http://pastebin.com/m7db677f8
[00:15] <LjL> !botabuse > rogue780    (rogue780, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:15] <sfears> jfgi?
[00:15] <edju> anybody  w/ the snd_hda_intel module, nvidia sound, conexant 5051?  alsamixer shows only master, pcm, capture and digital.  Shouldn't there be more?
[00:16] <sfears> ohhh
[00:16] <sfears> got cha
[00:16] <Fruuctis> anyone know a good site for compiz themes? and might someone explain to be how i install them? Im using ubuntu 7.10
[00:16] <oneforall> recordmydesktop ah ok will look at that oen . tried gtk-recordmydesktop . But I'd like to look at soem others :D
[00:16] <Pelo> Fruuctis, www.gnomelook.org
[00:16] <oneforall> thaks
[00:17] <sfears> Fruuctis, google emerald themes & set them using the emerald manger in system/prefs/emerald
[00:17] <Pelo> Fruuctis, just dragdrop them to the theme manager for the emerald them you need to import them in emerald
[00:17] <mad_max02> is there anything for gnome as KMplayer ???
[00:17] <Fruuctis> Pelo: Do i need to download any application for that
[00:17] <Fruuctis> and how do i get theme manager?
[00:17] <Pelo> Fruuctis, not for the compiz one,  you do need emerald installed for the emerald themes
[00:17] <sfears> Fruuctis, system/prefs/emerald
[00:17] <Fruuctis> but for compiz?
[00:18] <sfears> it'll work
[00:18] <Fruuctis> aint that the "cool" themes?
[00:18] <Pelo> Fruuctis, menu > systsm > prefs > apperance
[00:18] <eatatjoes2> can anyone help me get my MX700 (mouse) buttons to work in ubuntu?
[00:18] <SeveredCross> Emerald is the compositing themer that kinda sorta goes along with Compiz.
[00:18] <oneforall> err that is gtk-recordmydesktop  O_o
[00:18] <Pelo> Fruuctis, compiz is not a theme , it is a compoziting manager, it give you effects
[00:18] <nith> sudo shutdown -r now
[00:18] <nith> uh
[00:18] <nith> sorry
[00:18] <nith> brb
[00:18] <mfisch> Can anyone tell me how to figure out whether Ubuntu is using USB 2.0 or 1.x?
[00:18] <Fruuctis> ok...but how do i install the themes..and is there a terminal command to install emerald
[00:18] <mfisch> I'm seeing horrid file xfer times to a USB stick
[00:18] <Pelo> SeveredCross, emerald is a window decorator
[00:19] <Fruuctis> sry for asking simple questions..im new to ubuntu :P
[00:19] <sfears> correct me if i'm wrong.. compiz is more like the window behavior manager & emerald is the visual theme manager
[00:19] <sfears> they work together
[00:19] <Pelo> mfisch, ubuntu supprts usb2
[00:19] <mfisch> Pelo: I assumed as much, but I dont see any explicit "USB 2.0" info in /var/log/messages
[00:19] <Pelo> mfisch, large files take a long time , it can take me 30 min to transfer 2 gig on my mp3 player
[00:19] <mfisch> Pelo: I'm seeing 200MB in about 10 mins
[00:20] <Pelo> mfisch, check the settings in your bios
[00:20] <Fruuctis> how do i download emerald theme manager?
[00:20] <Pelo> Fruuctis, sudo apt-get instal emerald
[00:20] <mfisch> Pelo: good idea, I'll do that when I'm in fromt of it again
[00:20] <sfears> Fruuctis, system/prefs/emerald
[00:20] <Pelo> Fruuctis, emerald is not a theme manager , it is a replacement for metacity,  it deals with the title bars mostly,  for glass effects and such
[00:21] <mfisch> a search for USB at ubuntu.org shows this, which is amusing: "TheFamousBrettWatson"
[00:21] <gribouille> hi
[00:21] <redDEAD> # join #bcm-users
[00:21] <mfisch> famoUSBrett....
[00:21] <redDEAD> join #bcm-users
[00:21] <mfisch> redDEAD: use a slash
[00:21] <mfisch> or nevermind
[00:21] <gribouille> why does openoffice need a 4 million line patch to work on ubuntu ?
[00:21] <Fruuctis> ok...but, first off...its a clean ubuntu dist..ive only downloaded advanced desktop efect manager...WHAT do i need to install a theme
[00:22] <Fruuctis> and how do i install icons? :S
[00:22] <Pelo> gribouille,works out of the box for me , don't know what you did wrong
[00:22] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  drag drop the tar.gz file in the theme manager
[00:22] <gribouille> Pelo, whay do you mean ?
[00:22] <mfisch> why would you patch ubuntu instead of installing a deb?
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[00:22] <Pelo> gribouille, OOo works in ubuntu for me right from the install
[00:22] <sander_m> rhs: Aside from keyboard layout and some whitespace, our xorg.conf's are identical
[00:23] <rhs> sander_m: do you have AIGLX true in server layout ?
[00:23]  * Pelo wants the floodbot brothers permenantly banned from the channel 
[00:23] <sander_m> rhs: yes
[00:23] <gribouille> Pelo, I downloaded the source package of OOo on ubuntu and it includes a 4 million line patch
[00:24] <Pelo> gribouille, you tried instaling 2.3 %
[00:24] <Pelo> ?
[00:24] <Fruuctis> Pelo:  how do i install icons ?
[00:24] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  drag drop the tar.gz file in the theme manager
[00:24] <gribouille> Pelo, yes
[00:24] <rhs> sander_m: ok, so it seems I can't help you anymore
[00:24] <Fruuctis> ok
[00:24] <essial> where do I need to go to learn how to contribute to Ubuntu as a developer?
[00:24] <sander_m> rhs: There's also an integrates video card in my system
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[00:25] <Pelo> gribouille, well that's wath you get then you want bleeding edge ,  precompiled packages for ubuntu work right out
[00:25] <ArthurArchnix> looking at my xorg.log file I see this ==) intel(0): DPI set to (100, 100)   that's not right. Anyone know how to manually tell xorg the resolution to use?
[00:25] <sander_m> rhs: Could it me that ATI is simply enabled on the wring screen/device or something?
[00:25] <gribouille> Pelo, that's not blleeding edge, that's the normal OOo package
[00:25] <rhs> sander_m: i don't think so
[00:25] <rhs> sander_m: what's your screen resolution ?
[00:25] <Pelo> ArthurArchnix, dpi is not the same thing as resolution, but you can change the xorg.conf file manualy and restart x
[00:26] <sander_m> rhs: 1440x900. That works correcty now
[00:26] <Pelo> gribouille, isn'T 2.2 the current one in ubuntu ? in anycase youc an install OOo from the repos , don't know why you would go and get the source
[00:26] <Pelo> !opsnack | LjL
[00:26] <ubot3> LjL: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[00:26] <rhs> sander_m: what does not work exactly ?
[00:26] <bradley> helo, i have a laptop that i am trying to install Ubuntu on, and i get sevreal wierd things... first when ubuntu starts (even in the live cd) i see some messages come up about cannot allocate or access space some hexidecimal numbers, then when it starts sevreal programs, exit before i tell them to like Partition Manager, and when i got it installed i had problems with either: Add and Remove APPS, the Terminal, or Compiz - the first tim
[00:26] <bradley> e it was only Compiz and i understood it to be because of my ATI card, but there were workaronds.... which i also need help doing but, the latest to problems bewielder me!!!!
[00:26] <bradley> help!!!
[00:27] <gribouille> Pelo, because the OOo package for ubuntu is completely broken
[00:27] <spork969> what's a good video editing program? i really only need to trim the video a bit
[00:27] <Pelo> gribouille, first I 've heard of it
[00:27] <Pelo> Fruuctis, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:27] <ArthurArchnix> Pelo: I'm looking at the documentation now... dpi has to do with fonts though, which is what I'm concerned about. E.g., my fonts are set to 92, but xorg setup 100.. that can't be good right?
[00:27] <sander_m> rhs: How about glxgears for starters :-)
[00:28] <gribouille> Pelo, writer has a lot of bugs on ubuntu
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ArthurArchnix, did you get your script to work
[00:28] <Fruuctis> i cant seem to drag and drop the tar-gz into the theme manager
[00:28] <Pelo> ArthurArchnix, does it work ? if so leave it alone
[00:28] <xq> spork969: Go get Kino or Cinelerro :)
[00:28] <bradley> helo, i have a laptop that i am trying to install Ubuntu on, and i get sevreal wierd things... first when ubuntu starts (even in the live cd) i see some messages come up about cannot allocate or access space some hexidecimal numbers, then when it starts sevreal programs, exit before i tell them to like Partition Manager, and when i got it installed i had problems with either: Add and Remove APPS, the Terminal, or Compiz - the first tim
[00:28] <bradley>  e it was only Compiz and i understood it to be because of my ATI card, but there were workaronds.... which i also need help doing but, the latest to problems bewielder me!!!help!!!
[00:28] <sfears> bradley, when you get to the grub boot menu theres boot options like noapic & such that can occasionally solve hardware boot up issues.. mabey try some of them and see what happens??
[00:28] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah. With more help.
[00:28] <s2a> #math is an irc channel for math help, right? (haven't checked but assuming it is) is there an irc channel for grade 10 physical science help?
[00:29] <rhs> sander_m: how about compiz ?
[00:29] <spork969> xq: i need to edit .ogg video
[00:29] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  sometimes,  the pakge gets repacked to include instrucitons, extract it onece, look in it , see if there is anothter tar.gz file in it , drag drop that one  in the theme manager
[00:29] <rhs> sander_m: does the wobbly windows work ?
[00:29] <sfears> s2a, physical science sort of falls under math
[00:29] <cameodemon> compiz is to ubuntu what lung cancer is to lungs
[00:29] <sfears> check out the #math channel & see where it leads you
[00:29] <s2a> sfears, k, ill go there then, thx
[00:29] <xyblor> help! when I install urxvt, it destroys the man pages for rxvt. what do I do?
[00:29] <sfears> welcome
[00:30] <Pelo> bradley, restate the actual problem without the background storry and more briefly,  this is a busy channel
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ArthurArchnix, Was the soultion to add ~/bin to PATH in my ~/.bashrc.
[00:30] <xq> spork969: Can you convert and then edit?
[00:30] <spork969> bradley: please don't repeat your questions
[00:30] <bradley> sfears: i dont understand any of the Grub, terminal problems.... i have looked for the error message, and do not understand, also when i start up Ubuntu and its saying stuff it OK system clock isnt, and some intel_psg driver is missing and something about the system manufauter are missing
[00:30] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: I needed to edit /etc/sudoers to allow all users to run scripts in directory 'x' without a password. Then move those scripts there. Then call them with xterm -e /path/script.sh   I have now have a shortcut to disable touchpad, without installing synaptic drivers.
[00:30] <Pelo> cameodemon,  try this one instead,   candy rots your teeth,  eye-candy rots your brain, say no to compiz
[00:30] <spork969> bradley: never mind i was scrolled up and i thought you had reposted
[00:30] <sander_m> rhs: I don;t think a default 7.10 install has wobbly windows (where are the setings for that?) but the menu's do fade in-an-out and all that. I don't think plain-jame metacity does that
[00:31] <sander_m> s/jame/jane/g
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ArthurArchnix, thanks
[00:31] <essial> can anyone spare a moment to help get me on the right path to contributing to ubuntu as a developer (as a MOTU I presume)
[00:31] <spork969> xq: probably, but it would be easier to just edit as ogg
[00:31] <xq> spork969: Ogg is supported by Kino as far as I though though.
[00:31] <lukus> pelo: but doesn't it speed up yr system... because it puts handling of windows onto the gpu?
[00:31] <xq> spork969: I am not sure about the other two, I use Kino.
[00:31] <bradley> Pelo: i having problems: 1. getting Ubuntu installed CORRECTLY 2. getting the APP update to work 3.getting compiz to work
[00:31] <Pelo> lukus, I woudln't know
[00:31]  * regeya fires up kino to check on xq's claim...
[00:31] <lukus> pelo: think it might... flying , wobbling windows get annoying after a while tho
[00:31] <sfears> bradley, there's some kind of help option at the grub boot menu.. read thru the help file about boot options & simply type them in at the end of the command line that shows up when you pick extra options at the grub boot menu.. it's a long shot but it might work
[00:31] <cameodemon> thats a good one. i like what compiz does but unless you are running some fast hardware it is a real drag to run it
[00:32] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: This is what I added to /etc/sudoers     ALL     ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/scripts/
[00:32] <xq> regeya: http://www.kinodv.org/docbook/ their own docbook has a screenshot!
[00:32] <timo> can any one tell me how to backup files with nano editor
[00:32] <bradley> sfears: i am not having problems booting, but it is ONCE i was booted
[00:32] <rhs> sander_m: system > prefs > appearence, set the effects at maximum
[00:32] <sfears> ok
[00:32] <Pelo> bradley, try to install ubuntu from the alternate install cd, it is often more forgiving,  ( it's text based),  for  compiz to work start by installing the restricted drivers, but you migth not get alll functionnalities,  not sure why the updates don't work , you'll need to fix the rest first
[00:32] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: For even more security, you can change that ALL to some made up group, then add users individually to the group. But I'm ok with this solution.
[00:32] <Breakage> hi should fc-cache -fv be run as root and user or just root?
[00:32] <regeya> lukus: yeah; it's a good thing that can be disabled, eh? :->
[00:32] <xq> sorry
[00:33] <xq> Kino only EXPORTS to Ogg
[00:33] <xq> * Cinelerra NOW supports theora/ogg movie for input files. ...
[00:33] <Pelo> timo,   sudo cp filename filename.backup
[00:33] <sfears> does anyone in here use gRIP?
[00:33] <spork969> xq: thanks
[00:33] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: However, users can append any valid options to the end of those scripts. I haven't figured out how to block that yet.
[00:33] <xq> spork969: np, sorry. I don't do Ogg.
[00:33] <regeya> xq: s'okay; I was kinda hoping it was true.  I'd like mkv support as well.
[00:33] <Y-Town> .
[00:33] <sander_m> rhs: It wobbles
[00:33] <bradley> Pelo: ok, but with compiz I have a problem with the ATI driver i think... but it doesnt allow me to use the advanced effects
[00:34] <regeya> !ask | sfears
[00:34] <ubot3> sfears: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:34] <spork969> xq: actually, i probably will have to convert anyway
[00:34] <timo> pelo yeah but , inside the editor i see  "M-B Backup File"
[00:34]  * regeya uses it but hasn't configured grip in a long time
[00:34] <xq> regeya: Yeah, a lot of people like Ogg. I just haven't moved that direction yet. I still do AVI/MPEG and mainly convert to Flash format when it's all said and done for Web Production.
[00:34] <Fruuctis> Pelo:  it doesnt work
[00:34] <xq> spork969: hehe
[00:34] <Pelo> bradley, you probably need the version of xgl that works with ati car,  aixgl I think
[00:34] <sfears> i've never been able to figure out where it saves to
[00:34] <regeya> oh heh sfears
[00:34] <Pelo> Fruuctis, do you get a msg ?
[00:35] <Fruuctis> iäve tryed to drag and drop the tar-gz
[00:35] <bradley> Pelo: oh, cool do you know where i can get it???
[00:35] <Fruuctis> what msg?
[00:35] <FFForever> how long can my password be?
[00:35] <Pelo> bradley, you better ask in #compiz
[00:35] <spork969> xq: whats a good way to convert video?
[00:35] <regeya> um...weird...gnome-do doesn't find grip. :-/
[00:35] <sfears> not where grip is saved but where it saves the rips
[00:35] <bluefoxx>  #hardware
[00:35] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  when you drag drop the icon.tar-gz file in the theme manager ?
[00:35] <regeya> um...that would be because I apparently don't have it installed...huh, I guess it's installed on my wife's lappy.  hang on a sec sfears
[00:35] <Fruuctis> i've tryed to download a theme packade now...but its not a tar gz..the file i downloaded nothing happens
[00:35] <Fruuctis> well..the tar-gz drop doesnt work either
[00:35] <sfears> and i don't see any path options in the settings.. thanks regeya
[00:36] <rhs> sander_m: actually, I've just tried the cube for the first time and it doesn't work
[00:36] <xq> spork969: Probably ffmpeg
[00:36] <Pelo> Fruuctis, gimme the link to the theme in question so I can have a look
[00:36] <sfears> i've never been able to get cube effects to work
[00:36] <Fruuctis> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Leopard?content=44814
[00:36] <derdui_> if the driver v.2.60 supports also the ip4200, might i take a gutenprint to run my ip2200?
[00:36] <sander_m> rhs: I'm now installing nexuiz to see if 3D support is any good. I imagine that even Mesa software can render wobbly Windows with 3 GB RAM and a dual core AMD64 (running an i386 ubuntu mind you...)
[00:36] <Pelo> Fruuctis, hold on
[00:36] <xq> spork969: Or mencoder -- use this: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/encoding-guide.html
[00:36] <Fruuctis> ok
[00:37] <xq> spork969: mencoder input_file.ogg -ovc lavc -nosound -o output_file.avi
[00:37] <sander_m> rhs: What does `fglrxinfo` say in your CLI?
[00:37] <regeya> sfears: hang on; I'm having to boot up wifey's machine.  you can define where the files are saved, tho
[00:37] <xq> spork969: If you WANT sound remove the -nosound
[00:37] <sfears> alright.. i'd like to know how
[00:37] <regeya> heh, I think I could get it installed by the time her laptop is booted; give me a minute or so :-)
[00:37] <Pelo> Fruuctis, that's not a regular theme I don'T know how you would go about installing it, you better look for another one
[00:37] <sfears> seems like it should be pretty straight forward.. it however eludes me
[00:37] <xq> spork969: And if you don't have mencoder sudo apt-get install mencoder
[00:37] <rhs> sander_m: it doesn't say much appart from the name of the card and the OpenGL version
[00:38] <rhs> sander_m: only four lines
[00:38] <Breakage> should fc-cache -fv be run as root and user or just root?
[00:38] <sander_m> rhs: Mine too. But do the last 3 say "Mesa" or something else?
[00:38] <rhs> sander_m: no
[00:39] <Pelo> Fruuctis, try this one http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme?content=13548
[00:39] <Fruuctis> ok
[00:39] <Fruuctis> now i have dragged and dropped into the emerald
[00:39] <Fruuctis> and its there
[00:39] <TaRDy> hi, i'm fairly new to unix and am getting  Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel., any suggestions?
[00:39] <Fruuctis> how do i enable it?
[00:39] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  in emerald ? just check it I tink
[00:39] <Rezagrats> whats the linux alternative to imageready ?
[00:39] <Fruuctis> its http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4Lin+ver.0.4+Emerald+Theme?content=71995 that one
[00:39] <Pelo> Fruuctis, I'm not very knowledgable of emerald
[00:40] <sander_m> rhs: Only 4:30 mins remaining until Nexuiz is installed. That'll be a nice stresstest for the system
[00:40] <Pelo> Fruuctis, it should work if you have decorator enabled in the compiz advance settings thingy
[00:40] <rhs> sander_m: I'm going to bed
[00:40] <rhs> sander_m: good luck
[00:40] <Pelo> Fruuctis,  better ask in #compiz
[00:40] <sander_m> rhs: Okay. Thanks for your help anyway
[00:40] <gribouille> qwhen I type "info diff", I get the man page for diff. where can I find the info page for diff ?
[00:41] <bluefoxx> so i have three 6.4 gig drives, but want to use them as one 19.2 gig drive in RAID. what raid level should i use?
[00:41]  * Pelo actualy likes his desktop to look like gnome,  a slightly modified clearlook
[00:41] <nayfly> Hey. I'm looking for a simple way of making a drive image of my linux partition. Can anyone suggest a program?
[00:41] <xq> spork969: converting? ;-)
[00:41] <spork969> xq: working on it
[00:42] <nickrud> nayfly: partimage
[00:42] <Fruuctis> well it works now
[00:42] <xq> spork969: mencoder installed? :) just making sure you don't run into any problemos
[00:42] <Fruuctis> now i need to know how to install icons?
[00:42] <spork969> xq: mencoder installed with no problems
[00:42] <frank23> gribouille: info page probably only contains the same thing as the man page
[00:42] <spork969> xq: im just working on the syntax. im browsing through that link you sent me
[00:42] <Pelo> Fruuctis, use tha link I gave you there is an icon pacakge , just drag drop it in  the appearance manager from the prefs menu
[00:42] <xq> spork969: great and the command i gave you -- did you understand it (with or without audio option depending on needs)?
[00:43] <spork969> xq: crystal clear
[00:43] <xq> spork969: I gave you the correct ;-) hehe Did it give you an error?
[00:43] <nayfly> nickrud: thanks! Am i able to save the image to a NTFS drive?
[00:43] <xq> spork969: correct command*
[00:43] <gribouille> frank23, no, it doesn't
[00:43] <Fruuctis> what link?
[00:43] <xq> spork969: Unless you needed added options
[00:43] <spork969> xq: havent tried it yet, looking through the manual
[00:43] <jorgp> what is a good app to pull down an entire website?
[00:43] <Pelo> jorgp, nvu ?
[00:43] <nickrud> nayfly: you can do all kinds of things: compress it, split it up into dvd size files, etc.   apt-cache show partimage   in a terminal gives you an overview
[00:43] <xq> spork969: Ah okay
[00:43] <xq> spork969: No problem
[00:43] <sfears> jorgp.. check out remoteexploite.org
[00:44] <Pelo> jorgp, nvm I just figured out what you aked
[00:44] <nayfly> nickrud: Thank you so mch for that advice. :) i'll try it out
[00:44] <regeya> ok sfears, under the Rip tab on Grip, look at the Rip subtab, which ALSO has a subtab named Ripper.  There is where you set where your files are saved to.  If the variable substitution eludes you, the help system explains it all nicely.
[00:44] <xq> spork969: Another good manual/Wiki page http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide -- :) Just for your future reference if you like it more, really.
[00:44] <regeya> ...also, I see that my old settings are gone.  drat.  that's what I get for using abcde ;-)
[00:44] <FrozenFox> Hey guys. Anyone know how to fix the bloody gfxboot in hardy?
[00:45] <spork969> xq: file not found: 'original.ogg'
[00:45] <FrozenFox> no matter what i do, it seems to stay at the text mode. hehe
[00:45] <sfears> i have a rip subtabe under the config tab regeya
[00:45] <derdui_> i just ask me, why i cant choose local printer, i have now an other driver, can anybody help me please?
[00:45] <frank23> gribouille: try installing the diff-doc package
[00:45] <xq> spork969: You have to rename original.ogg to your filename of your .ogg file -- I.E. if it is called spork969movie.ogg then put that there
[00:45] <gribouille> frank23, ok, thanks
[00:45] <xq> spork969: I just put placeholder file names for you
[00:45] <spork969> xq: i know, i figured it out
[00:45] <xq> spork969: good deal
[00:46] <spork969> xq: i typed the file name wrong
[00:46] <Pelo> gotta go to bed, g'night folks
[00:46] <sfears> and i do see the ripper subtab but i don't see any where to put a save to path
[00:46] <Fruuctis> good night Pelo
[00:47] <Fruuctis> thanks for the help:P
[00:47] <Fruuctis> ^^
[00:47] <bluefoxx> so i am getting one of these>http://www.positiveesolutions.com/store/product.php?productid=824757&cat=26&page=1 and am going to throw 3x6.4 gig drives into it, what RAID level should i use to have some data loss protection and still use them as at least a 12.5 gig drive?
[00:47] <crxyem> anyone here ever look at pclinuxos ?
[00:47] <grum_> !grub
[00:47] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:47] <xq> crxyem: I am sure people have
[00:48] <crxyem> just looking for others opinions on it
[00:48] <Toma-> how does one list the available supported filesystem types?
[00:48] <subsume> hi all. is there some way to access thin-client error logs? I'm trying to trace the cause of a failed client startup.
[00:48] <xq> crxyem: Might want to ask in ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[00:48] <crxyem> ah didn't know that existed
[00:48] <gcg> hello, i changed my laptop hdd, is there a way to copy my ubuntu installition from my old hdd to my new one ?
[00:49] <subsume> crxyem: well this is the unofficial ubuntu-offtopic
[00:49] <subsume> =)
[00:49] <xq> crxyem: Just a seperate channel for non-support things. This is the uno...what subsume said. lol
[00:49] <subsume> you can ask here. but just like the ubuntu forums, you'll probably not get a reply =)
[00:49] <xq> crxyem: ...but a good place to start is Google and distrowatch.com (.../exits stage left).
[00:50] <soundray> gcg: yes, you need a USB adapter to connect your old disk though
[00:50] <FrozenFox> gcg: you may want to look into partimage
[00:50] <sfears> gcg.. yes you can.. might be easier to burn your /home to a disk.. resinstall ubuntu on the new hdd & then copy over the /home folder
[00:51] <gcg> i boot my lappy with gentoo minimal cd, i copy all files with cp -pR * to my new hdd
[00:51] <gcg> i reinstall grub
[00:51] <FrozenFox> Does anyone know how to fix Hardy's grub gfxboot? It seems to be forever in text mode. :p the link someone gave above didn't help, as it wasn't gfxboot.
[00:51] <sfears> you could just copy the / folder to a disk if it fits & use a ghosting image to put it on the new hdd.. but that would copy over any bad sectors as well
[00:51] <soundray> Toma-: cat /proc/filesystems
[00:51] <gcg> but it does not boot
[00:52] <nayfly> nickrud: I'm trying to make an image of the linux system i'm currently running. However, it will not allow me to make the image because the partition is in use (obviously because i'm booted into it)... is there a way to circumvent this, or does this mean that i'll have to install another linux installation on another drive, and then image...?
[00:52] <spork969> ok, here's a weird question: how would i go about converting a video to a gif?
[00:52] <Toma-> soundray: cheers :)
[00:52] <soundray> Toma-: this does not include filesystems available as modules that aren't loaded
[00:52] <sfears> nayfly.. boot into the live cd & work from there
[00:52] <FrozenFox> nayfly: try booting into a livecd.
[00:53] <nickrud> nayfly: I used ...  see sfears above ;)
[00:53] <FrozenFox> hehe. too slow, it seems
[00:53] <sfears> nayfly.. see FrozenFox
[00:53] <Toma-> soundray: ahh. im assuming ext3 should be built into the kernel tho right?
[00:53] <nayfly> okay, but wouldn't the livecd have to have partimage already installed?
[00:53] <soundray> Toma-: I'm not sure, I think it gets loaded from initramfs
[00:53] <FrozenFox> not necessarily
[00:53] <bluefoxx> ookay...i think i shall use RAID5...now to figure out how to download wikipedia onto my hard disk...that i may read it faster XD
[00:53] <bengalikid> hello i have suse and  and windows and after installing windows it can run windows but after installing grub it can bring up opensuse menu. i am on opensuse right now. how can i load windows instead of suse?
[00:53] <FrozenFox> i've installed and run gparted from a livecd before
[00:54] <soundray> spork969: mencoder can do that
[00:54] <FrozenFox> i dont see why partimage would be any different
[00:54] <reikalusikka> what is the command I can get the web page source, something like wget?
[00:54] <macogw> nayfly: the live cd has gparted
[00:54] <Toma-> soundray: ahh rightio
[00:54] <reikalusikka> I'm not sure what I'm talking about but I hope you do :D
[00:54] <bluefoxx> and in the mean time, how can i replace my caps locks key with "compose"?
[00:54] <bengalikid> hello i have suse and  and windows and after installing windows it can run windows but after installing grub it can bring up opensuse menu. i am on opensuse right now. how can i load windows instead of suse? i installed grub from ubuntu live cd
[00:54] <nayfly> gparted you say. and that will make an image and write it to an NTFS drive?
[00:54] <nayfly> just as a file, that is.
[00:54] <macogw> nayfly: i didnt read the whole thing. its just a partitioner
[00:54] <sfears> bengalikid, i'm not sure this is the proper support channel for you.. i'd say edit your grub file.. but i'm not even sure if SUSE uses grub
[00:54] <FrozenFox> http://www.sysresccd.org/   this liveCD might have partimage on it, im not sure
[00:54] <macogw> nayfly: making a direct, bit-by-bit copy of a drive is possible with dd
[00:55] <reikalusikka> what is the command I can get the web page source, something like wget www.google.com?
[00:55] <reikalusikka> I'm not sure what I'm talking about but I hope you do :D
[00:55] <olskolirc> hi guys.  I have a projector hooked up to my computer with an 80 inch screen.  My display is a block in the middle of that screen.  How can I make it wider and higher with my Nvidia Gforce 6100 card please?
[00:55] <TaRDy> for virtualizing an OS such as winXP pro, what program proven to be best?
[00:55] <macogw> nayfly: but that wouldnt change the file system...it's an *exact* copy
[00:55] <spork969> soundray: seriously?
[00:55] <nayfly> I guess i'm not after a bit for bit copy. Just an image.
[00:55] <FrozenFox> Tardy: its kind of a matter of preference. i prefer virtualbox. but many many prefer vmware
[00:55] <sfears> reikalusikka, are you trying to circumvent opening a browswer & viewing source from there?
[00:56] <soundray> reikalusikka: wget does get the source
[00:56] <soundray> spork969: serious as cancer. man mencoder
[00:56] <TaRDy> FrozenFox, I was kind of fond of virtualbox myself (partly because sun is trying to acquire them)
[00:56] <nayfly> ALright cheers guys. I'll try out your suggestions.
[00:57] <FrozenFox> Indeed. Sun ftw.
[00:57] <mlLK> which directory does synaptic pkg mgr download it's files to?
[00:57] <spork969> soundray: how?
[00:57] <soundray> mlLK: /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:57] <mlLK> soundray: k ty
[00:57] <soundray> spork969: read 'man mencoder' to find out how
[00:58] <reikalusikka> sfears I'm I can't see php by that way
[00:58] <reikalusikka> ups
[00:58] <mrgeorge> Hi there, I'm having major problems with Ubuntu 7.10
[00:58] <reikalusikka> soundray: thanks for the advice
[00:58] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: like?
[00:58] <sfears> ohhh
[00:59] <FJSS> how would I switch my default torrent program from bittorrent to azureus? I have azureus installed but firefox wants to open it with bittorrent
[00:59] <sfears> is that how to pick up chicks??
[00:59] <mlLK> soundray: is synaptic pkg mgr = aptitude?
[00:59] <reikalusikka> where does the file save it self?
[00:59] <mrgeorge> I think my vid card and sound card drivers aren't installed
[00:59] <Starnestommy> mlLK: it's a different program, but synaptic and aptitude both manage packages
[00:59] <soundray> mlLK: no. aptitude is a text-mode package manager. All of them use the same directory to cache packages, though
[01:00] <bengalikid> hello i have suse and  and windows and after installing windows it can run windows but after installing grub it can bring up opensuse menu. i am on opensuse right now. how can i load windows instead of suse?
[01:00] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: please open up a terminal/console/konsole from Accessories, and type glxinfo | grep direct
[01:00] <sfears> mrgeorge, your sound card is more than likely not working becuase the volume levels in a mixer are turned down
[01:00] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: if that command gives you direct rendering: yes, then your video drivers are installed ok
[01:00] <mlLK> so all packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:00] <reikalusikka> soundray: Where does the .html save it self?
[01:00] <mrgeorge> frozenfox: it says yes
[01:01] <mrgeorge> here is my problem: http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/4/3/10/f_Screenshot1m_3e389ac.png
[01:01] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: then your video drivers should be fine. why do you think they are working incorrectly?
[01:01] <soundray> reikalusikka: to the present working directory, where you launched wget. Find out the path with 'pwd'
[01:01] <reikalusikka> ok
[01:01] <mrgeorge> Frozenfox: beccause when i boot up, the image is really distorted, the screen appears only as 640*480
[01:02] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: have you run nvidia-settings and changed the resolution? and when you say that, do you mean only on bootup or permanently?
[01:02] <reikalusikka> soundray: thanks
[01:03] <spork969> soundray: it won't animate
[01:03] <mrgeorge> only in bootup, and when its booting up, I get a message from my monitor, invalid input or something like that
[01:03] <mrgeorge> and I have an intel gma 3100 vid card
[01:03] <spork969> soundray: this is what i typed "mplayer video.avi -vo gif89a:fps=15:output=gif.gif"
[01:04] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: hrm, from what i understand, your video drivers (ie nvidia/ati) do not kick in until your system is almost fully loaded. until then, its a sort of default video driver deal.
[01:04] <soundray> spork969: and did you try loading gif.gif in firefox?
[01:04] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: I don't have nvidia or ATI
[01:05] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: intel?
[01:05] <spork969> soundray: oh, i just assumed the image viewer would animate it
[01:05] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: yes, gma 3100
[01:05] <soundray> spork969: so it worked?
[01:05] <Decinoge> question
[01:06] <spork969> soundray: fantastically, thank you
[01:06] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: as long as direct rendering works in-os, they should be working correctly. i dont know why it's doing weird stuff prior to logging in, but it may work the same way as the nvidia/ati drivers and only load the direct rendering stuff just before the login screen.
[01:06] <soundray> answer
[01:06] <Decinoge> is there any application to do HTML and shit for web like dream weaver, for ubuntu of course.
[01:06] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: i dont really know how to change the resolution prior to that point, however.
[01:06] <soundray> !language | Decinoge
[01:06] <ubot3> Decinoge: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <mrgeorge> Frozenfox: does this title bar look messed up http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/4/3/10/f_Screenshot1m_3e389ac.png
[01:06] <mrgeorge> its all re-arranged
[01:07] <Decinoge> is there any application to do HTML and stuff for web like dream weaver, for ubuntu of course.
[01:07] <Pici> !html | Decinoge
[01:07] <ubot3> Decinoge: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[01:07] <Decinoge> Oo
[01:07] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: it appears normal to me despite the large gaps in the panels. those should be there.
[01:07] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: like left of 'bob' and right of the trash bin icon
[01:08] <snypzz> anyone out there using wine for guild wars?
[01:08] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: why?
[01:08] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: my name should be in the far right? I thought thats where the power button went
[01:08] <Decinoge> i guess there is not
[01:08] <snypzz> not finding .drive_c not there or something
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> Decinoge: tried any of those?
[01:08] <phoenix5002> hello, does anyone know if I can adjust 3d settings such as texture quality and mipmapping ect.. from a terminal?
[01:08] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: you can move any item on the panel anywhere you want, and add/remove panel items at will via right click.
[01:08] <FrozenFox> phoenix: nvidia or ati?
[01:09] <soundray> Decinoge: none of them are comparable to Dreamweaver really, but the output code quality is generally better
[01:09] <phoenix5002> ati
[01:09] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: do you know why when Ubuntu is both booting up and shutting down, my monitor gives me an invalid input signal for a few seconds?
[01:09] <Decinoge> a few... not very confortable :\
[01:09] <Decinoge> its a matter of user interface i guess :\
[01:09] <soundray> Decinoge: it's a matter of leaving your comfort zone
[01:09] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: ati card (Radeon IGP 345M)
[01:10] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: i really dont know. but as long as it works (with correct resolution in ubuntu) and direct rendering appears to be working, i dont think its something to worry about
[01:10] <Decinoge> sorry soundray, i'm on the side of design that says "good design is the one that gives less effort/stress to the user"
[01:11] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: could it be because I have a really old (4 years) 15 inch lcd monitor?
[01:11] <kerin> hey guys, can i ask a question?  i've already tried googling and to RTFM and please don't eat me.
[01:11] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: but you may want to post your question on the ubuntu forums, if it is of concern.
[01:11] <Pici> kerin: just ask :)
[01:11] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: I'm using the Open source drivers for ati.  and there is no catalyst control center or ati control panel or anything so i have no way to modify the settings.
[01:11] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: i am using a 4+ year old crt monitor. it shouldnt be an issue.
[01:11] <RequinB4> !ask | kerin, not hungry :P
[01:11] <ubot3> kerin, not hungry :P: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:11] <timo> can any one please make me a scrip that checks is totem is running if found runing it should be stopped or ended
[01:11] <kerin> thanks!  will do.
[01:11] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox: is 15 inch a problem?
[01:11] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: hmm.. one second. let me see here. one sec
[01:11] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: I wouldn't mind downloading a third party program or something if it would help
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> timo: 'killall totem' ?
[01:11] <soundray> Decinoge: I'm one of the kind that willingly sacrifices a bit of comfort to gain more control
[01:12] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: how did you install the drivers? restricted manager?
[01:12] <timo> tonyyarussoif found running
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> timo: well it sure won't do much if it's not.
[01:12] <phoenix5002> no I don't have anything in restricted manager but "atheros hardware access layer (HAL)"
[01:12] <kerin> nautilus won't open the links on my desktop.  "desktop entry" filetype, i think.  when i try it says it can't display [whatever] and "There is no application installed for this file type"
[01:12] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: no, the size should not be a problem.
[01:12] <Decinoge> one should not sacrifice the other, that's what it is smart design
[01:12] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: I'm using the default open source drivers Ubuntu gave me when I installed
[01:12] <soundray> Decinoge: I guess among Linux users I am in the (if somewhat diminishing) majority
[01:12] <Decinoge> interface design*
[01:12] <timo> tonyyarusso: its hard to explain
[01:13] <mrgeorge> FrozenFox:ok, one other thing, do you know why my computer is beeping all the time?
[01:13] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: ah. well, unless you have a specific reason to use those, i'd suggest using the ATI ones.
[01:13] <soundray> Decinoge: well, Dreamweaver is not exactly an example of that
[01:13] <Decinoge> there's not much better
[01:13] <ceej_> hey all
[01:13] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: I tried the ATI drivers, but then I had no "direct rendering" so I switched back
[01:13] <timo> tonyyarusso: if its not running it must run it but if its running it must top it :P
[01:13] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: which you can install from the restricted drivers manager or download "Envy" and install your drivers that way (the former case is better if possible)
[01:13] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: hmm. you may want to try envy, and see if you have better luck
[01:14] <ceej_> does openoffice have conectors for the flowcharts....because all i can see are the shapes ?
[01:14] <Starnestommy> FrozenFox: envy isn't supported or recommended
[01:14] <gotgnu> all the fonts in openoffice are zeros what should I do ???
[01:14] <Pici> !envy | FrozenFox phoenix5002
[01:14] <ubot3> FrozenFox phoenix5002: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> timo: ah.  maybe something like if(pidof totem) then.
[01:14] <phoenix5002> I also tried envy It said my card wasn't supported and I said "install anyway" and it messed up my comp
[01:14] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: hrmm. i see.
[01:14] <kerin> however, the links in the "places" window work fine.  i've even tried making NEW shortcuts on the offchance that the specification changed or something and they still don't work.  my other thought was that i would have to set the program to "open" desktop entry files.  but nautilus doesn't give me the option, I assume to keep me from screwing anything up.
[01:15] <timo> tonyyarusso: so it should be #bin/bash
[01:15] <soundray> ceej_: the 8th symbol in the bar on the bottom gives you connectors
[01:15] <timo> pidof totem
[01:15] <timo> dont get it :P
[01:15] <phoenix5002> FrozenFox: I'm happy with the driver I have now more or less, I just want to reduce some of the graphics to get a few more FPS in games
[01:15] <FrozenFox> phoenix5002: sorries, i really dont know how to edit anything about the drivers outside of the official ones. >< have you tried perhaps manually installing them then?
[01:15] <Scunizi> phoenix5002, you may not want to use envy to install the drivers.. it might break the upgrade coming out next month.. Wait until Hardy is out. It may have better support for ati...
[01:15] <Decinoge> however, i didn't knew KompoZer, only Amaya and Iceape Composer
[01:15] <Decinoge> this looks nice
[01:15] <FrozenFox> Scunizi: he said he's already tried, and it failed
[01:16] <phoenix5002> Scunizi: ya I already tried envy and it did mess stuff up, I'm not trying it again
[01:16] <Scunizi> FrozenFox, ah.. ok.. same thing with automatix phoenix5002 ..
[01:16] <RequinB4> !automatix
[01:16] <ubot3> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:16] <phoenix5002> but are there any third party apps that can edit my graphics quality settings?
[01:16] <Scunizi> RequinB4, that's what I just said... :/
[01:16] <Newbuntu2> I want to learn how to write programs that interact with a devices (eventually using a GUI). I'm thinking of learning python or C++. Does anyone have recommendations as to which language to use and a good development platform/program to use that is supported by ubuntu?
[01:17] <FrozenFox> Scunizi: hehe. i never suggest automatix to anyone for well-discussed reasons, but i've never seen issues with envy. :)
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> boy Scunizi your 2 for 2 for bad advice..
[01:17] <RequinB4> Scunizi - never fails to hit home if not from a bot
[01:17] <RequinB4> I've seen plenty of people come here because automatix screwed their box
[01:17] <themike> hi everyone
[01:17] <RequinB4> hello themike
[01:17] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, I suggested not using automatix.. don't know how you could imply otherwise.. it's like envy. might break things.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> RequinB4: same here, PLENTY.. same on Envy
[01:18] <themike> I've been away from linux for a while and I guess I need some help configuring my network...
[01:18] <FrozenFox> yeh. i've seen it messed up for plenty of automatix users, though i've never encountered someone with envy trouble who -doesn't- otherwise have trouble installing the drivers anyway
[01:18] <Rizzla> hey does someone know a good channel i should go into to ask about some usenet stuff?
[01:18] <phoenix5002> OH, perhaps I can edit some settings for wine?  the game I want to edit the quality settings for uses wine
[01:18] <FrozenFox> so i always suggest it only as a last resort :0
[01:18] <FrozenFox> :)*
[01:18] <bengalikid> what command  is it to ind out what my partitions are in linux?
[01:18] <Emilian> any good joox-like sites?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> bengalikid,  sudo fdisk -l   is one way
[01:18] <themike> from the graphic interface, it looks like my onboard realtek 8100 is not detecded, but from the lshw
[01:19] <Dr_willis> Emilian,  Not any more - that ive seen. veoh.com is ok.
[01:19] <Scunizi> bengalikid, blkid is another for mounted partitions.
[01:19] <RequinB4> general question that's been bugging me, what is fstab?
[01:19] <Dr_willis> !fstab | RequinB4
[01:19] <ubot3> RequinB4: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:19] <timo> what dose if(pidof totem) then . do?
[01:19] <kerin> okay well i've found a workaround for my problem for the moment, sort of
[01:19] <Dr_willis> RequinB4,  file system table - I guess. :) is what it stands for.
[01:19] <RequinB4> ah, so like if you had /home on a different file system
[01:19] <Emilian> well that sucks
[01:19] <RequinB4> parition(
[01:19] <FrozenFox> mrgeorge: if youre still here, i have no idea regarding the beeps. it would be more helpful perhaps to find out when specifically it beeps, recreate it, and then we might be able to help.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> RequinB4,  it defines where the various filesystems get mounted.
[01:19] <kerin> if anyone else has desktop links that don't work you can replace them with program launchers that run "naurilus [uri to open"
[01:20] <kerin> thanks for at least listening, guys
[01:20] <Rizzla> anyone can help me get some help on getting up and running with usenet
[01:20] <Rizzla> not sure if this is the right channel for that kind of stuff
[01:21] <themike> damn, so many people talking at the same time, any way anyone can help me with the basic networking in a private window?  I know networking very well in windows, I wont need anyone to explain what an ip adress is, just how to enable my network card in ubuntu
[01:22] <Starnestommy> themike: depends on the type of networking card.
[01:22] <snypzz> anyone out there using wine for guild wars??
[01:22] <timo> is my script ok ? http://pastebin.ca/937553
[01:22] <Rizzla> can anyone read what i'm typing or am i muted or something
[01:22] <Starnestommy> Rizzla: we can see you
[01:22] <TaRDy> is amarok any good?
[01:22] <A86> i installed vbox
[01:22] <Scunizi> TaRDy, yep
[01:22] <A86> but still cant run farcry
[01:23] <FrozenFox> snypzz: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9194  no, but people don't seem to have too many issues. do you have a problem in general?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> A86,  you are trying to run farcry in side windows inside virtualbox?
[01:23] <soundray> Rizzla: you are muted
[01:23] <A86> yes
[01:23] <themike> lshw -C network shows my network card, but system administration network tools dosent let me configure the eth0 interface
[01:23] <snypzz> yes
[01:23] <Dr_willis> A86,  GOOD LUCK with that...
[01:23] <Rizzla> soundray, if i'm muted than how did you read what i wrote
[01:23] <Dr_willis> A86,  any 3d game will proerly not run very well.
[01:23] <A86> can you suggest how i can run farcry?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> A86,  use wine/cedega
[01:23] <themike> everything (including ther hardware address) is "not available"
[01:24] <soundray> Rizzla: now I can read you, but faintly. Strike your keys harder.
[01:24] <Rizzla> haha
[01:24] <Rizzla> good one
[01:24] <A86> when i use wine i get error
[01:24] <themike> and the realtek website says driver is built in the kernel
[01:24] <snypzz> would like to know if I need to create a folder to find windows apps wile using wine
[01:24] <Dr_willis> !appdb | A86
[01:24] <ubot3> A86: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:24] <smick> I'm installing ubuntu on a partition, to dual boot it with xp pro. Getting failure with grub loading. It says it can't write.
[01:24] <Rizzla> anyone use usenet or giganews?
[01:24] <snypzz> general folder
[01:24] <A86> i didnt have luck with wine
[01:24] <snypzz> or something
[01:24] <FrozenFox> snypzz: wine apps install to /home/yourname/.wine/drive_c
[01:24] <acfrazier> I need help with setting up my Realtek RTL8187B wireless card.. I'd like to enable wireless functionality of my laptop, currently wired in.
[01:24] <A86> i was told to use vbox
[01:25] <Rizzla> i'm just looking for some help or advice with getting usenet up and running
[01:25] <Dr_willis> A86,  may want to try a newer wine, or cedega. You are not going to get good 3d game play from virtualbox or vmware -
[01:25] <themike> no one can help about enabling that network card?
[01:25] <soundray> Rizzla: if you don't get an answer straight away, it usually means the expert you're looking for is not logged on. Try again after a while (10+ min)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> A86,  espicially a game thas as gfx intensive as farcry
[01:25] <Scunizi> Rizzla, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/evolution-and-usenet-598559/
[01:25] <A86> how do i install wine cvs?
[01:25] <smick> what do you do if grub fails, use lilo?
[01:25] <A86> or cedega?
[01:25] <FrozenFox> A86: you won't get farcry to work with virtualbox/vmware. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2348&iTestingId=13379
[01:25] <Dr_willis> A86,  there is some up to date wine repository. or go to the cedega homepage and try the demo
[01:26] <rob_ludwick> join #ubuntu-us-in
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !wine
[01:26] <ubot3> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:26] <Scunizi> smick, reinstall grub typically.. if you have multiple drives it might have been placed on the wrong drive.
[01:26] <A86> demo?
[01:26] <FrozenFox> A86: far cry is officially supported by cedega http://games.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3297
[01:26] <A86> whats the limits?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> A86,   go to the home page and find out.
[01:26] <Rizzla> thanks sunizi, but i guess my question was more general in the sense that i'm looking to sign up to one of the premium services, but wanted to know which would be best
[01:26] <smick> Scunizi: it recognizes the other windows partition, and tries to write to boot loader then fails.
[01:26] <Rizzla> as far as linux compatibility with their software
[01:26] <smick> I've retried it in the main menu, it lets me go there.  still failing.
[01:26] <Rizzla> i know giganews has an accelorator, but its win only.
[01:27] <hdevalence> What tool do I need to convert a .daa to an .iso
[01:27] <crxyem> so, any ideas why I see 100% processor usage, and coming out of standby, the screen res drops to 800x 600 and I need to restart my session to fix it
[01:27] <Scunizi> smick, using the live cd check out http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[01:28] <A86> howto install
[01:28] <A86> i went to the homepage
[01:28] <A86> no info
[01:28] <smick> scunizi: if I'm using the alterative text installer will I be able to do anything at the moment?
[01:28] <FrozenFox> A86: cedega or wine?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> A86,  you are a fast reader then.. they have downloads you install
[01:28] <riekal> hey
[01:28] <A86> cegega
[01:28] <Dr_willis> !cedega
[01:28] <ubot3> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:28] <Scunizi> smick, probably not.. unfortunatly..
[01:28] <FrozenFox> A86: cedega is not free like wine.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> cedega had a 30 day or somthing demo last i looked.
[01:29] <A86> what is free that i can use for farcry?
[01:29] <Scunizi> smick, unless you reinstall and choose lilo. I've never used lilo
[01:29] <themike> can anyone just tell me how to set my eth0 interface to 192.168.1.2?  in network tools, on eth0, the "configure" button is grayed, but the lshw -C network command shows my ethernet adapter and driver and all
[01:29] <FrozenFox> A86: it is ~5$ a month for a min of 3 months last i checked (a long time ago) for lifetime program use, but 3-month updates. Wine can run farcry so-so according to wine's appdb.
[01:29] <FrozenFox> A86: and wine is free.. cedega is not.
[01:30] <A86> can you help me get it to run on wine?
[01:30] <smick> Scunizi:  so the live CD will let me get around this error.  Seems like the same thing will happen.
[01:30] <bradley> hey when i was installing Ubuntu it said this "the secuity updates at ubuntu.com could not be accessed, those updates will be made available to you at a later time, the commented out entires can be seen here etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <Scunizi> smick, probably.. do you have multiple drives?
[01:30] <A86> i have wine 0.9.46
[01:30] <themike> why do you guys ignore me, am I doing something wrong?
[01:30] <FrozenFox> A86: that is VERY old.
[01:31] <A86> how do i upgrade?
[01:31] <FrozenFox> A86: are you on feisty or gutsy?
[01:31] <bradley> themike: lol they do that sometimes
[01:31] <A86> im running ubuntu gusty
[01:31] <amenado> themike ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
[01:31] <Dr_willis> A86,  for the 'latest' wine - check --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624644
[01:31] <FrozenFox> A86: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:31] <Scunizi> smick, the live cd will give you an environment that will allow you to reinstall grub..
[01:31] <smick> Scunizi: I'm running a 3 partition sata 300 GB.  I used the last 90GB for linux, or tried to.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> A86,  that forum shows how to add the  latest wine repos to the package listing.
[01:32] <fabio> anyone running ms office with wine -?
[01:32] <smick> Scunizi: if I continue without grub, I can't boot into linux, then I can use the live CD and create grub listing?
[01:32] <bradley> hey when i was installing Ubuntu it said this "the secuity updates at ubuntu.com could not be accessed, those updates will be made available to you at a later time, the commented out entires can be seen here etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <FrozenFox> fabio: which version?
[01:32] <smick> scunizi, I'm not even sure if I continue with this install if I can boot back into windows.
[01:32] <Scunizi> smick, try the live cd.. that will probably fix it all for you.. don't reinstall just follow the instructions on the link I gave you. You can't boot into linux unless grub installs.
[01:32] <themike> hmmm, ifconfig [...] tells me permission denied and I'm using the only account I created during setup   :(
[01:33] <fabio> 2003
[01:33] <amenado> bradley during your install, internet access was not available, so it deferred
[01:33] <Itaku> is there a way to run linux terminal commands in mirc?
[01:33] <bradley> amenado: how do i fix this?
[01:33] <amenado> themike sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
[01:33] <season-shifter> sudo ifconfig?
[01:33] <FrozenFox> fabio: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3214
[01:33] <season-shifter> crap, treed
[01:33] <Starnestommy> Itaku: not in mirc, but I know xchat and irssi can run some terminal commands
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Itaku,  if you mean in your IRC client - most in linux support the /exec command
[01:33] <smick> scunizi:  thanks, I'll continue with this install where grub failed I guess, and if my computer doesn't boot, I'll make sure and get the Live CD going and correct the problem.  That's what you mean?
[01:34] <crxyem> is there a way to generate a list of all installed packages so after I do a fresh install I can do a diff between the fresh install and what I had installed ?
[01:34] <amenado> bradley-> sudo apt-get upgrade once you have an establish internet access
[01:34] <themike> error fetching interface information: device not found
[01:34] <Scunizi> smick, yep
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Itaku,  try /exec fortune
[01:34] <bradley> amenado . what about the commented out stuff
[01:34] <prince_jammys>  /j #trivia
[01:34] <themike> so I need a driver?
[01:34] <smick> scunizi, cool thanks
[01:34] <acfrazier> any way to fix the security updates disabled during install?
[01:34] <Scunizi> smick, did you also create a seperate /home partition when installing?
[01:34] <herky> has anyone seen the occurrence of their drive enumerations changing after install?  sda is now, sdc, etc.
[01:34] <TaRDy> setting up mySQL question
[01:34] <amenado> bradley what about them?
[01:35] <bradley> amenado: how do i uncomment them out???
[01:35] <amenado> herky its possible, if you have mixed sata and pata
[01:35] <A86> ok im installing wine 9.57
[01:35] <Scunizi> herky, yes.. depends on where the drives are plugged into the mother board vs. boot order.
[01:35] <fabio> FrozenFox thankx: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/01/running-ms-office-2003-under-linux-with.html seems it's ossible
[01:35] <A86> ok installed
[01:35] <amenado> bradley you use an editor
[01:35] <bradley> i know... but how???
[01:35] <fabio> openoffice is too bad for my purposes
[01:35] <Scunizi> herky, and what A86 said  :)
[01:36] <Optimus55> hey
[01:36] <FrozenFox> fabio: you may also want to look into wine-doors. i think they have ms office working in it too, but im not sure. but it is unsupported and beta quality.
[01:36] <bradley> amenado: i know but how, because now i cant use the add remove application thing
[01:36] <herky> hmm, i would only expect that if i had changed any of the above
[01:36] <A86> so what do i do next?
[01:36] <herky> which i haven't
[01:36] <reikalusikka> does any1 here have experience in apache? I'm trying to use authentication and wondering how to implement sll or some serious secure system.
[01:36] <reikalusikka> ssl*
[01:36] <mauro_rioiv> any can help me to do work a broadcom 4311, in 7.10 !  Please ....
[01:36] <themike> sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.2 tells me "192.168.1.2: error fetching interface information: Device not found", does that mean I dont have the driver even though the realtek website says its built into the kernel??
[01:36] <amenado> bradley what thingy? where are you at? what command?
[01:37] <Decinoge> KompoZer enjoyed
[01:37] <A86> ok i got wine 0/9/57 installed
[01:37] <macogw> reikalusikka: http://cacert.com does site certs for authentication...if that helps
[01:37] <SouperSauce> hello everyone. I'm having some trouble with kmail and I don't know if this has something to do with it but I'm running it under GNOME
[01:37] <A86> what do i do next?
[01:37] <bradley> i did the sudo apt get upgrade
[01:37] <Decinoge> easy to work with tables, and i like tables
[01:37] <macogw> reikalusikka: for ssl...i think there's a mod_openssl
[01:37] <reikalusikka> macogw: thanks I'll try that
[01:37] <Decinoge> no need for hardcore stuff... just to look good
[01:37] <bradley> and it rad some stuff and it said 0 upgrades 0 newly installed 0 remove and 0 not upgrade amenado
[01:37] <amenado> themike-> may i suggest a tutorial on network with linux? the very basic
[01:38] <FrozenFox> A86: run your far cry setup exe w/ wine and see if you have any better luck than before, first off..
[01:38] <amenado> bradley you are not answering my questions,
[01:38] <A86> ok
[01:38] <A86> brb
[01:38] <amenado> bradley what thingy? where are you at? what command?
[01:38] <bradley> amenado: i am trying to get the add remove programs to work, and get the updates as normal and i think that those commented out entires are the key... what do you mean???
[01:38] <themike> please, yes, suggest one because those I can find all suppose that you already have the driver working at 1st boot
[01:39] <bradley> amenado: i just did the sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:39] <mauro_rioiv> any can help me to do work a broadcom 4311, in 7.10 !  Please ....
[01:39] <gregbrady> Is it normal for two machines using smb to take about 10 minutes to be able to see what directories are shared?
[01:39] <amenado> bradley and i already explained to you the cause of error
[01:39] <bradley> amenado: which was?
[01:40] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: I have a bcm4311 and 7.10 64bit, what kind of problems you have? bcms suck a lot....
[01:40] <amenado> bradley scroll back and read what i posted
[01:40] <timo> i done my script :)
[01:40] <netopalis> Haldo - all of my USB ports have stopped working.  Any suggestions?
[01:40] <buffdaemon> I am not able to login through console but able to login through putty. please help me
[01:40] <crxyem> so, any ideas why I see 100% processor usage, and coming out of standby, the screen res drops to 800x 600 and I need to restart my session to fix it
[01:40] <bradley> amenado: right and i DID the sudo apt-get upgrade like you told me, and it didnt fix the add/remove programs
[01:40] <mauro_rioiv> i have start the BCM43XX by hand ... this not start auto...
[01:41] <gregbrady> crxyem, have you tried to run the system monitor to watch what is goning on?
[01:41] <mauro_rioiv> and this is the dmesg ...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59212/
[01:41] <amenado> bradley read again,  what did i mention about internet access ?
[01:41] <bradley> amenado: right and I HAVE internet access now!
[01:41]  * netopalis is sad...
[01:41] <bradley> amenado: am i supposed to reinstall???
[01:42] <amenado> bradley nope, your upgrade can be done with that command
[01:42] <hanasakiRemote> Whoops, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at:
[01:42] <hanasakiRemote> how do I fix that?
[01:42] <bradley> amenado: and it didnt fix anything!
[01:43] <netopalis> Anyone mind helping me with my lack of USB?
[01:43] <amenado> bradley you can uncomment what ever is security related source.. or do it via gui...system ->adming->synaptic  choose source and then update
[01:43] <crxyem> gregbrady, yes, I have all looks normal
[01:43] <arakthor_> which man page package as the documentation for pthread?
[01:44] <arakthor_> has*
[01:44] <gregbrady> crxyem, hmmmm
[01:44] <mauro_rioiv> Optimus55: you copy that ?
[01:44] <smick> do I need a separate home partition when installing ubuntiu?
[01:44] <amenado> bradley what i meant source was   settings and a window or sources should pop
[01:44] <SouperSauce> it's a good idea to smick
[01:44] <smick> i made my spare partition the / root and that's it.
[01:44] <arakthor_> smick: no, if you don't, it uses space from the / partition
[01:44] <neosix> hello!
[01:44] <smick> ok, scunizi asked me that and I wondered if it might have affected grub failure
[01:45] <amenado> bradley what i meant source was   settings ->(repositories) and a window or sources should pop
[01:45] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: with that card i've tried a lot, but haven't had success with the native driver in ubuntu. i get the same XMIT error, MAC suspend failed
[01:45] <bradley> amenado: no, nothing happened... screw this im just going to reinstall UBUNTU YET AGAIN!!!! prob. the 4th time
[01:45] <amenado> my fingers are quick on the enter
[01:45] <crxyem> I'm thinking it's something strange from doing an upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 to 7.10
[01:45] <gregbrady> crxyem, so how do you know your processor is used 100%?  Won't that indicator tell you what is sucking up the processor time?
[01:45] <smick> I used the text installer, grub failed, I continued anyway, now i'm going to go back with a live cd and maybe fix and get grub to actually write itself
[01:45] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: could just be my hp laptop because i know othe ppl have done it. but for me only ndiswrapper works in the current ubuntu
[01:45] <amenado> bradley if you do that, well see you here the 5th asking same..
[01:46] <smick> is there a way to check the downloaded iso to see if it's all there. I made a coaster and I don't know if it was the CD burn or the iso.
[01:46] <amenado> smick mount it
[01:46] <smick> before I try downloading again.. I want to check the iso.
[01:46] <Slant> In Hardy, is there a way to disable scim without uninstalling it?
[01:46] <anonusr> md5 sum?
[01:46] <Slant> For a single user?
[01:46] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: although the latest kernel has might better support for bcm4311 and it works flawlessly when i tried it on fedora 9 alpha
[01:46] <Pici> !verify
[01:46] <ubot3> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:46] <smick> amenado: can I mount in windows xp?  I've never done that.
[01:46] <Optimus55> much*
[01:46] <amenado> smick ahh then you must be in linux to mount it
[01:46] <smick> I'll check that.. never used md5 before either.
[01:46] <crxyem> a superkaramba script that is running cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'cpu MHz' | sed -e 's/.*: //'| sed -e 's/\..../ MHz/'" every so often
[01:47] <smick> amenado: yes the first CD burned failed, failed the check I mean.  before I waste another CD, I thought, maybe I shoudl check the ISO.
[01:47] <amenado> smick next time tell us the background story, i told you i guess wrong
[01:48] <anonusr> quick question; do the nvidia drivers work for PNY cards?
[01:48] <smick> that's cool.  I'll check md5 matching or whatever it's called.
[01:48] <Pici> anonusr: if they have nvidia chipsets
[01:48] <SouperSauce> they should work for anything with an nvidia chipset
[01:48] <icesword> guys,rise up rise up,tell me where does xp hides its logs?
[01:49] <Pici> icesword: ##windows
[01:49] <icesword> come on,they don't know
[01:49] <acfrazier> can't get stupid flash plugin installed..
[01:49] <crxyem> well, I thik I'm going to try a fresh install
[01:49] <Emilian> what does this mean: resident set size
[01:49] <anonusr> So, if the card was a PNY geforce, than it is probably comparable to the nvidia geforce?
[01:50] <gregbrady> crxyem, a fresh install seems kind of radical!
[01:50] <Jahromeo> hi guys is there any reason i cant see any skype contacts listed in ubuntu
[01:50] <Jahromeo> all my contact show up fine in windows
[01:50] <Jahromeo> for that same username
[01:50] <regeya> anyone know if it would be possible to write gnome do plugins in boo?
[01:50]  * regeya has used neither c# nor boo, so it's not a huge deal; boo just looks more python-like, and c# looks like pushing rope...just personal preference
[01:51] <amenado> for those interested in X windows, the new book "X power Tools" by Chris Tyler publ- Oreilly can be read online at.. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101954/toc.html
[01:51] <SouperSauce> anonusr: nvidia makes chipsets, other companies use the chipsets to make cards. your PNY card should have some nvidia certification or something
[01:52] <Jahromeo> hi guys is there any reason i cant see any skype contacts listed in ubuntu - windows box is fine with same username - any ideas?
[01:52] <amenado> a good book to read..neat little tricks..
[01:53] <trev> does anyone know why the clock in ubuntu does not automatically adjust for daylights saving time?
[01:53] <amenado> trev mine did
[01:53] <Optimus55> so did mine
[01:53] <crxyem> gregbrady: radical yes, but maybe necessary, as nothing else has seemed to wrok
[01:53] <DG19075> as did my clock
[01:53] <regeya> as did mine, trev; make sure you have your timezone set correctly
[01:53] <TaRDy> mySQL is not myFRIEND
[01:53] <crdlb> trev: sounds like you're not using the right timezone
[01:54] <mauro_rioiv> Optimus55: i have the latest kernel, or not ?
[01:54] <trev> ok ill look it up thx
[01:54] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: which kernel are you using?
[01:54] <SouperSauce> I'm having a problem running kmail/kontakt in gnome. I've set up a gmail imap account and i can see entries for my gmail folders but they're all blank and I can't seem to find a way to change them
[01:54] <mauro_rioiv> uname -r  ????
[01:54] <gregbrady> crxyem, ok, just thought we could save you from that.
[01:55] <trev> ask for more than you want
[01:55] <trev> then people will make offers
[01:55] <anonusr> checked the card, it has what looks like a very small nvidia symbol on the back. thanks for the help.
[01:55] <mauro_rioiv> Optimus55: uname -r = 2.6.22-14-386
[01:55] <regeya> trev: assuming you're using gnome, System  -> Preferences -> Date & Time
[01:55] <Jahromeo> so nobody has any issues or input wrt skype not showing contacts?
[01:55] <Optimus55> by latest, i meant the 2.6.24 kernel
[01:56] <trev> regeya:yeah its set for New York which is where i am but im thinking ill just adjust it forward an hour
[01:56] <regeya> trev, what release of ubuntu are you using
[01:56] <SeveredCross> Any G3 Mac users here?
[01:56] <pstv> help.. which gstreamer plugin is for DVD?
[01:56] <trev> 6.11
[01:56] <SeveredCross> #ubuntu-powerpc seems dead.
[01:56] <trev> i believe
[01:56] <Optimus55> mauro_rioiv: although technically the latest is 2.6.25. check www.kernel.org
[01:56] <SeveredCross> 6.11? That's an interesting release.
[01:56] <SeveredCross> Do you mean 6.10?
[01:56] <trev> regeya: yes
[01:57] <bnalohim> im a nowie.. can enyone help me configure my dual boot... i cant get my windows xp runing from my grub.. i get a filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[01:57] <trev> regeya: my harddrive is almost full so i never updated it
[01:57] <xyblor> Is there a way to make an alias that applies for the whole xsession, not just for bash?
[01:57] <regeya> whoops...somehow I screwed up MY timezone.
[01:57] <pstv> anyone know which gstreamer is for dvd?
[01:57] <SeveredCross> xyblor: Er, how do you mean?
[01:57] <trev> regeya:i just set it forward one hour
[01:57] <SeveredCross> You mean something that everyone could use by executing from a terminal?
[01:57] <anonusr> SeveredCross, one g4 powermac user.
[01:57] <Jahromeo> man can someone please please let me know if skype has issues with regards to showing contacts - none of mine appear on this box but theyre available on my windows box
[01:57] <xyblor> SeveredCross: I want an alias that I can run from my window manager, which is before bash has begun
[01:58] <trev> regeya:tempory but funtional, do you think its worth updating to the newest version of ubuntu?
[01:58] <regeya> trev: well...there may be a better fix, but sure
[01:58] <SeveredCross> xyblor: Write a shell script, place it in /usr/local/bin/ and make it executable?
[01:58] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Do you run a dual boot or just Ubuntu?
[01:58] <pstv> which Gstreamer plugin is for DVD?
[01:58] <regeya> SeveredCross: you having an ubuntu ppc issue?  I use debian ppc at work, used to use ubuntu lts, what's the issue...
[01:58] <xyblor> SeveredCross: but it's a command that already exists ("urxvt")
[01:59] <anonusr> dual boot, I've found it helps to have a small mac partition in the even you kill the yaboot partition (pram reset)
[01:59] <SeveredCross> regeya: Just problems with actually getting it to boot.
[01:59] <SeveredCross> I have OS X installed on the 2nd channel IDE master, and Ubuntu on the 1st channel IDE slave.
[01:59] <regeya> oho, that's often been my *ahem* cross to bear, SeveredCross
[01:59] <SeveredCross> When I go to boot after the installer has finished (Ubuntu or Debian, same applies to both), nothing happens.
[02:00] <bnalohim> im a nowie.. can enyone help me configure my dual boot... i cant get my windows xp runing from my grub.. i get a "filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[02:00] <SeveredCross> I get the blinking ? of doom, and then it just drops to OS X boot.
[02:00] <kanuha> is there a setting or program that will connect to wireless connections when I enter into a wi-fi area?
[02:00] <SeveredCross> If I pull the OS X disk out totally (unplugged its IDE cable), I just get the blinking ? of doom permaently.
[02:00] <anonusr> do you have the small partition needed for yaboot to run to select mac or linux?
[02:00] <regeya> SeveredCross: I know you've probably already done this, but have you tried to boot up while holding down the option key?  that should give you a list of bootable systems
[02:00] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Yep, bootstrap is there, it has yaboot installed.
[02:00] <Jeriath> so my filesharing iwht my winxp machine has been working fine till my spring break. I came back and i get this: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[02:00] <Jeriath> any ideas
[02:00] <smick> I just got a new shuttle, and XP won't load drivers for the on board sound.  Before I get an return slip from shuttle, I was going to check with ubuntu, see if sound works. do I even need to install it or will the live cd tell me?
[02:00] <SeveredCross> regeya: I don't think this Mac is recent enough, it's a B&W G3, I've heard tell that wasn't introduced till the G4's.
[02:01] <anonusr> can you boot with a live cd?
[02:01] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Yep, can.
[02:01] <regeya> oh...b&w.  wow
[02:01] <anonusr> is the /etc/yaboot file pointing to the right harddrives?
[02:01] <SeveredCross> I can try Option, but I doubt it'll do.
[02:01] <subsume> sudo ifconfig ra0 192.168.0.150 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1 gives me an error =(
[02:01]  * regeya sits back
[02:01] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Yep, sure is. Linux is /dev/hdb3, which makes perfect sense.
[02:01] <subsume> sudo ifconfig ra0 192.168.0.150 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1 gives me SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid argument. Why??
[02:02] <SeveredCross> 2nd partition, 2nd drive, 1st IDE channel.
[02:02] <timo> join #mythtv-users
[02:02] <anonusr> and bootstrap is on the master
[02:02] <SeveredCross> Yeah Option doesn't work
[02:02] <Jahromeo> man can someone please please let me know if skype has issues with regards to showing contacts - none of mine appear on this box but theyre available on my windows box
[02:02] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Nope, bootstrap is on the slave.
[02:03] <baddhabit> how do i tell if my kernel is 32 bit and not 64 bit?
[02:03] <kanuha> is there a setting or program that will automatically connect to the strongest wifi signal when I enter into a wifi area?
[02:03] <anonusr> perhaps that's the problem. I think it needs to be able to get to yaboot before anything else, and to do that I think it needs to be on the master drive.
[02:03] <Optimus55> Jahromeo: i don't get that problem with skype. are you using stable release or beta?
[02:03] <Scunizi> did someone get their answer about converting .daa files to iso earlier?
[02:04] <genii> baddhabit: uname -m
[02:04] <Jahromeo> beta the one that pops up in synaptic - optimus55
[02:04] <Jahromeo> i dont have an option for a stable release
[02:05] <postmodern> how do i quickly upload some files off a default ubuntu install
[02:05] <postmodern> from the command line
[02:05] <SeveredCross> anonusr: Hmm.
[02:05] <SeveredCross> I'll try installing it to the master as soon as I get some Tiger CD's to reinstall from if need be.
[02:05] <amenado> subsume-> what is the 192.168.0.1  for?
[02:05] <Jahromeo> where did you get your release optimus55
[02:05] <subsume> amenado: just trying to play with gateways to see if i can get one that works
[02:05] <Optimus55> Jahromeo: hm.. i avoid using the beta. have you checked www.skpye.com? i'm sure i remember seeing the .deb package there
[02:05] <regeya> anonusr, SeveredCross: I think anonusr is onto something.  I think you may need to make your ubuntu install master, and you can set up yaboot (I think) to boot tiger.
[02:06] <amenado> subsume-> thats not how you configure a nic card
[02:06] <Jahromeo> would i have to first remove skype from synaptic before i installed the .deb?
[02:06] <SeveredCross> I'll try that next. I have Tiger CD's that I got from the guy who I bought the B&W from, but they're images in DMG format on a USB stick.
[02:06] <georges> hi all, I installed ubuntu and I tryed playing some mp3 and it sayd I needed to install codecs, so I let it install gstream or something like that and it dosent still says I dont have the codec, I can't evewn find the package in "add/remove"....  anyone can help?
[02:06] <SeveredCross> So I need to get them onto the Mac.
[02:06] <mkz> I am having a problem with a program and time zones.  The date/time on my server is correct, but my application is off by an hour.  I want to verify what time zone my server is configured for.  What is the file that sets the timezone?
[02:06] <SeveredCross> Convert them to .cdr.
[02:06] <SeveredCross> Rename that to .iso.
[02:06] <SeveredCross> Then burn them.
[02:06] <subsume> amenado: I have a ubuntu lab and all the client machines stopped conencting to the internet. i don't know what else to do
[02:06] <subsume> amenado: it was someone else's advice
[02:07] <regeya> I have to confess I've never set up a linux/os x dual boot machine tho :->  I do know now that I think back I've tried booting debian from a slave drive, and it failed miserably
[02:07] <Optimus55> Jahromeo: yeh you should. give it a shot. remove it from synaptic first, then install the current release http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[02:07] <amenado> subsume-> which host are you configuring ? the gateway? any of the clients?
[02:07] <regeya> though to be fair that was on a machine with a sonnat ultra ata card, so I kinda assumed it was a sonnet issue and not a mac issue :-}
[02:07] <Jahromeo> thanks
[02:07] <subsume> amenado: clients
[02:07] <SeveredCross> regeya: Yeah, this is the built-in card.
[02:07] <SeveredCross> It's a Rev. 2 B&W, so it should be okay.
[02:08] <amenado> subsume-> is the gateway working?
[02:08] <regeya> (the sonnet ultra ata cards, amongst other things, couldn't run os x 10.1, and show up as scsi cards in os 9 iirc)
[02:08] <georges> I installed ubuntu and I tryed playing some mp3 and it sayd I needed to install codecs, so I let it install gstream or something like that and it dosent still says I dont have the codec, I can't evewn find the package in "add/remove"....  anyone can help?
[02:08] <subsume> amenado: the client gateways aren't.... they can only connect to LAN
[02:08] <SeveredCross> georges: YOu probably want ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[02:08] <subsume> amenado: server can connect...and i am connected with my laptop plugged into a router.
[02:08] <subsume> amenado: I was updating the server when all the client machines simply stopped connecting to WAN
[02:09] <netopalis> Haldo - none of my USB devices are being recognized by Ubuntu.  Can anyone help?
[02:09] <georges> yeah, I most probably want this "ubuntu-restricted-extras" I guess, but can you help me about getting that?
[02:09] <amenado> subsume-> please describe your network layout
[02:09] <icesword> netopalis, usb,usb drive ?
[02:09] <netopalis> USB drive, webcam, MP3 player or digital camera
[02:09] <netopalis> And I've tried on all 3 ports
[02:09] <SeveredCross> georges: Open a terminal, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:09] <SeveredCross> Then enter your password when sudo asks for it.
[02:09] <subsume> amenado: dear god I wish I knew totally. I can paste you ifconfigs if you want
[02:10] <Jahromeo> georges - w32 codec pack would help with video not sure about audio
[02:10] <amenado> subsume also describe the functionality of our server, serves what? or is it acting as router/gateway?
[02:10] <icesword> netopalis, you need to mount them
[02:10] <netopalis> How do I do this?
[02:10] <regeya> SeveredCross: still, it's not a bad idea to try swapping your drives, getting yaboot set up, then try...hang on, I'm at home, and amongst other things that means I'm in broadband no-man's land...and I can't just check the yaboot manpage since I use x86 at home...
[02:10] <subsume> amenado: I am trying to retrace the steps of the crazy network technician who was here before
[02:10] <icesword> netopalis, attach it,sudo mount -a
[02:10] <SeveredCross> regeya: That's alright, I'll do some experimenting with it soon.
[02:10] <SeveredCross> I can't actually change the hard drive Ubuntu's on to master because it's on the same IDE channel as the CD-ROM.
[02:10] <anonusr> you'll probably need to rewrite the /etc/yaboot file though
[02:10] <SeveredCross> And the cabling is busted.
[02:10] <georges> says could'nt find package....
[02:10] <netopalis> Done, nothing changed
[02:10] <Jahromeo> Georges - applications - accesories - terminal - then type - sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:11] <Jahromeo> once that is done enter your password
[02:11] <amenado> subsume-> you paid the technician? call him on the horn pronto and have him fix it...heh
[02:11] <SeveredCross> georges: YOu probably need Universe/Multiverse.
[02:11] <subsume> amenado: he quit. i'm replacing him trying to save this lab
[02:11] <SeveredCross> So, System --> Administration --> Software Sources, and tick all the boxes.
[02:11] <amenado> subsume-> ahh you were the paid tech...hehe
[02:11] <anonusr> out of curiosity, why are some irc/xchat messages red?
[02:11] <Optimus55> lol
[02:11] <A86> ok
[02:11] <Jahromeo> if your name is mentioned in them anonusr
[02:11] <subsume> amenado: lol. yeah, people are idiots with money i guess. =)
[02:11] <Jahromeo> they appear in red
[02:11] <genii> anonusr: They have your nick in them
[02:11] <A86> i upgraded wine
[02:11] <subsume> amenado: I'm the only person who knew linux they could find
[02:11] <regeya> SeveredCross: if you go that route, take a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64001  I don't think you'd have to make os x default, but that should give a clue (disclaimer:  again, I've never set up a dual-boot linux/tiger machine)
[02:11] <A86> i do setup for farcary
[02:12] <Optimus55> anonusr: they're red when they get ready to explode
[02:12] <netopalis> Icesword, that didn't work
[02:12] <subsume> amenado: I am just doing it as a favor. its an elementary school my friend teaches at
[02:12] <anonusr> ha.
[02:12] <regeya> subsume: a look at the u.s. financial news should confirm that one
[02:12] <A86> and now it says please select at least one language pack
[02:12] <anonusr> thanks. best of luck to you, SeveredCross
[02:12] <georges> really, I did that, I make NO type and it says could'nt find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:12] <icesword> netopalis, now,run mount in console,see where was it mounting to
[02:12] <amenado> subsume-> ahh okay..lets do this..
[02:12] <subsume> amenado: LAN works so I can terminal into client machines
[02:12] <amenado> subsume-> do you know what a dsl modem look like?
[02:12] <xphisher> hello all.. i'm having a bit of trouble with video playback with totem.  it flickers.  any solutions without having to enable x11.. it eats up alot of resources
[02:12] <subsume> amenado: server is connected fine to internet
[02:12] <alfermp> hey guys somebody have this video card with ubuntu nVidia GeForce 8600M GT
[02:12] <A86> FARCRY HELP WINE
[02:13] <netopalis> /media/host/wubi/disks/system.virtual.disk on / type ext3 (rw,sync)
[02:13] <netopalis> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:13] <netopalis> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:13] <Jahromeo> georges - So, System --> Administration --> Software Sources, and tick all the boxes.
[02:13] <netopalis> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[02:13] <Jahromeo> do as someone mentioned before
[02:13] <subsume> amenado: yes.... I think its this black box.
[02:13] <netopalis> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[02:13] <FloodBot3> netopalis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:13] <netopalis> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:13] <amenado> subsume-> is the server also acting as the gateway for all the clients?
[02:13] <kanuha> anyone use wifi-radar and does it work?
[02:13] <subsume> amenado: I suspect. If it is, its no longer doing a good job.
[02:13] <icesword> netopalis, is that all?
[02:13] <Jahromeo> your synaptic was open when you ran that i think
[02:13] <subsume> amenado: I was working on server when all clients stopped getting WAN
[02:13] <Optimus55> kanuha: i use it. it works. though it doesnt seem to want to connect to networks with WEP
[02:13] <A86> can anyone help me?
[02:14] <netopalis> Ice - yes, that's all
[02:14] <A86> install farcry
[02:14] <netopalis> Sorry, I got tempbanned for flooding -s hould we PM?
[02:14] <regeya> hey...since there's obviously ppc people here, does anyone know if it's possible to run ybin yet if you're using the pata drivers?  the fileserver at work, the old ata drivers are too buggy to use, but I have to keep a kernel around just to be able to run ybin.
[02:14] <georges> downloading
[02:14] <amenado> subsume-> lets establish things first,
[02:14] <amenado> subsume-> you can log in to the server?
[02:14] <subsume> netopalis: use PASTEBIN
[02:14] <subsume> amenado: yes
[02:14] <LjL> netopalis, no, you should use the link that the banning bot gave you
[02:14] <netopalis> Where's that?
[02:14] <netopalis> Oh, ok
[02:14] <oneforall> hi where can I look at the spec or compile options that used for wine ?
[02:14] <subsume> amenado: 192.168.0.10
[02:14] <Jahromeo> paste your issues here - http://rafb.net/paste/ - then provide link and people will assist
[02:14] <netopalis> Sorry, thanks
[02:14] <oneforall> all the configure ones
[02:14] <amenado> subsume-> okay  i want you to log in to it
[02:14] <kanuha> Optimus55, I am on the road all day and connect to free wifi, but I have a wep enabled network at home. Do you recommend wifi radar?
[02:14] <subsume> amenado: done
[02:14] <A86> ?
[02:15] <icesword> netopalis, cd /proc/bus/usb/
[02:15] <asker> http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-3498228245415745977&q=code&total=137112&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
[02:15] <amenado> subsume-> can you ping all the clients individually?
[02:15] <Jahromeo> kanuha - get rid off wep its crackable in like a few mins
[02:15] <regeya> oneforall: haven't done it for a long time, but how about ./configure --help
[02:15] <netopalis> Done, Ice
[02:15] <subsume> amenado: yeah. they can freely SSH between one another
[02:15] <A86> can some one help please?
[02:15] <regeya> wep == teh evile
[02:15] <dn4> Why does my screen resolution only allow me to use 800x600
[02:15] <Optimus55> kanuha: sure. download it and give it a shot. i have wpa supplicant installed, but it still doesnt want to connect to wep for me. test it out. you may have different results
[02:15] <amenado> subsume  am refering from the perspective of the server..can you ping all of them?
[02:15] <dn4> when I know my gfx card allows for more
[02:15] <Jahromeo> wep = me abusing your internet :P
[02:16] <oneforall> regeya yeah I was just wanting to look at some of the pac\kages and see the options and patches being used and deside etc from there
[02:16] <A86> help please?
[02:16] <amenado> subsume give me a sample ip address of a client,
[02:16] <netopalis> In that directory, I have 001, 002, 003 and devices
[02:16] <regeya> wpa2, and heck with all the losers still running xp on their lappies without the wpa2 patch
[02:16] <subsume> amenado: 192.168.0.150
[02:16] <kanuha> Jahromeo, then what to use?
[02:16] <Flannel> A86: #winehq will be able to help you set wine up
[02:16] <Jahromeo> wpa or wpa2 kanuha
[02:16] <amenado> subsume the client ip address starts from where? to where?
[02:16] <subsume> amenado: wish I knew
[02:16] <A86> doesnt help
[02:16] <icesword> netopalis, ok?now?
[02:16] <A86> i get weird error in install
[02:17] <kanuha> Jahromeo, so I need to get another router?
[02:17] <A86> choose language pack
[02:17] <DoubleDew> how do you find if a process is running and all you know is the name?  top doesnt show me long enough list
[02:17] <amenado> subsume okay, lets do this,  ifconfig   and paste this in pastebin
[02:17] <netopalis> Now what?
[02:17] <Jahromeo> wep - is easily deciphered via the use of aircrack or similar programs - stick with wpa kanuha
[02:17] <Flannel> A86: In wine install? or in farcry install?
[02:17] <A86> farcry install
[02:17] <jrib> DoubleDew: use ps
[02:17] <subsume> amenado: from server?
[02:17] <A86> i just uped to wine 9.57
[02:17] <Flannel> A86: #winehq is going to be much more helpful than we could ever be.
[02:17] <jrib> DoubleDew: or pgrep
[02:17] <icesword> DoubleDew, pgrep name
[02:17] <Jahromeo> Kanuha your router would need to be really really old to not support wpa
[02:17] <amenado> subsume thats from the server perspective okay? thats why i asked you to logged on to it
[02:17] <subsume> amenado: wasn't sure ifconfig from server or client
[02:17] <Nilbus> how can I get ndiswrapper kernel module to automatically load on boot?
[02:18] <netopalis> Ice sword: I'm in that directory, what do you want me to do??
[02:18] <A86> how to install cegede,??./
[02:18] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1390 server
[02:18] <Stoffer> would a bluetooth or IR wireless keyboard work at a system startup, without booting into the os?
[02:18] <amenado> subsume while you are at it, add the contents of  route -n  ;  and  iptables -vL -n
[02:18] <A86> ?
[02:18] <icesword> !cedega | A86
[02:18] <ubot3> A86: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:19] <netopalis> Can someone else help me?
[02:19] <Flannel> A86: Go ask the #winehq people for help, they should be able to help.
[02:19] <amenado> netopalis nope, we can not mind read..hehehe
[02:19] <kanuha> Jahromeo, I don't see an option for wpa in router
[02:19] <netopalis> lol
[02:19] <georges> when I use this sudo apt-get [...] command to install something, does it save it somewhere so if I need to reinstall or whatever, I wont have to redownload it all (my internet connection sux)
[02:19] <netopalis> None of my USB devices are working on any port
[02:19] <DoubleDew> ok...so second question...I do not have a mysqld process running, but it is not loading for me.  It was working the other day and I don't know what happened.  A restart doesnt fix it and it thinks i have another process already running and using port 3306
[02:19] <netopalis> *ports
[02:20] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1391 server
[02:20] <Flannel> georges: yes, /var/cache/apt
[02:20] <TaRDy> i am the only user and i try to su and use my password but it doesnt work
[02:20] <Flannel> georges: but, it handles that automatically
[02:20] <erstazi> besides: wifi-radar and the network manager or netapplet, what is a good wifi manager (that has WPA2)?
[02:20] <Flannel> TaRDy: ubuntu uses sudo, not su.  The root account is locked
[02:20] <icesword> TaRDy, no,root is not enabled yes
[02:20] <icesword> yet
[02:20] <Flannel> icesword: nor should it be.
[02:20] <snewp> how do i change the appearance of openoffice back to it's default because it's adopting the the gtk theme of my desktop ?
[02:21] <icesword> Flannel, pardon
[02:21] <Flannel> icesword: There's no reason to enable the root account.
[02:21] <Itaku> is there a place i can get more panel gadgets?
[02:21] <Jahromeo> kanuha go google how to crack wep - and see why you should change to something more secure like wpa/wpa2
[02:21] <icesword> hmmm
[02:21] <Jahromeo> whats is the shortcut key to complete a nick
[02:21] <Jahromeo> instead of manually typing it out
[02:21] <amenado> subsume  now, on one of the client, i would like you to paste the result of  ifconfig; route -n ;  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:21] <icesword> !tab
[02:21] <ubot3> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:21] <erstazi> jonasbjork: tab
[02:21] <erstazi> arg
[02:21] <Jahromeo> whats is the shortcut key to complete a nick instead of manually typing it out?
[02:21] <TaRDy> Flannel and icesword  , I thought I was able to use su before when i had a virtual box, I am trying to use mySQL for amarok but am having troubles
[02:21] <erstazi> Jahromeo: ^^ (:
[02:22] <Maimster> Jahromeo tab
[02:22] <erstazi> TaRDy: in debian based distros, there is sudo <command>
[02:22] <Itaku> !tab > Jahromeo
[02:22] <Jahromeo> ta
[02:22] <Itaku> is there a place i can get more panel gadgets??
[02:22] <erstazi> Jahromeo: what is your favorite wifi manager?
[02:22] <Slant> Is there a channel for Hardy users?
[02:22] <icesword> linux=tab
[02:22] <Flannel> Slant: #ubuntu+1
[02:22] <hExDj> I am about to format my computer, what's the best way to install dual Ubuntu/Vista
[02:22] <erstazi> Itaku: right click on the panel
[02:22] <rxkaffee> hi, I'm trying to se what runlevel I'm currently on, and thought to go check my /etc/inittab because my runlevel hasn't changed since startup... only to find that I don't have an /etc/inittab... any ideas on why/where its gone to? I'm certain it existed only days ago on either this or my other Ubuntu system
[02:22] <Maimster> Slant You running Hardy?
[02:22] <Flannel> TaRDy: Use sudo instead.  If you absolutely cannot live without a root terminal (which isn't the case), use `sudo -i`
[02:23] <Jahromeo> erstazi to be honest im newish to linux so i wouldnt really know i tried kismet for scanning networks etc
[02:23] <Jahromeo> but im a windows boy and like netstumber
[02:23] <Itaku> erstazi: i know about those but im wondering if theres a site with more?
[02:23] <erstazi> Jahromeo: hmm, ok no big
[02:23] <kanuha> Jahromeo, checking linksys website now to see if mine supports wpa
[02:23] <Itaku> like apple dashboard
[02:23] <Jahromeo> has netstumbler been ported to linux or is my best option kismet?
[02:23] <erstazi> Itaku: you can make your own, they are called "launchers", you can make custom ones, or go to Applications and find one you prefer and rightclick and add to panel
[02:23] <georges> one more question, can I limit the bandwith ubuntu use on the internet?  to something like lets say 35k/s?
[02:23] <Itaku> so no more like fish
[02:23] <Jahromeo> what model do you have kanuha
[02:24] <rxkaffee> Jahromeo: kismet is your best option, wether you're on windows or linux... I believe there is a linux port though
[02:24] <Itaku> and drawer
[02:24] <ubuntu2> can i use ubuntu grum without having ubuntu install and choose to boot opnesuse or windows?
[02:24] <Jahromeo> i like having stumbler around will prolly install both tho
[02:24] <erstazi> Itaku: there migth be, you can check synaptic
[02:24] <rxkaffee> Jahromeo: kismet uses fully passive monitoring, while kismet sends out a probe request
[02:24] <Maimster> Netstumbler is small enough to maybe run within Wine.
[02:24] <erstazi> Itaku: over 20,000 packages there, you are bound to find something
[02:24] <Itaku> true
[02:24] <Itaku> thanks
[02:24] <erstazi> s/migth/might/
[02:24] <Jahromeo> too many uses of kismet rxkaffee :P you meant one of those to be stumbler right?
[02:24] <ubuntu2> can i use ubuntu grub without having ubuntu install and choose to boot opnesuse or windows? right now i think i have ubuntu grub installed but it loads opensuse grb and doesn't boot up windows properly (windows freeze)
[02:25] <rxkaffee> Jahromeo: ah, right... stumbler sends out probe requests
[02:25] <erstazi> rxkaffee: I am looking for something like netapplet but so I know I have so many bars
[02:25] <icesword> ubuntu2, you said windows freeze,how
[02:25] <amenado> ubuntu2-> what? what os do you currently have installed?
[02:25] <Flannel> ubuntu2: yes.  But if you're already at something windows related when it freezes, it's not GRUB, because you've already passed control to windows at that point
[02:25] <Slant> Maimster: Yes.
[02:25] <rxkaffee> Jahromeo: so you're limited by a) who is willing to respond, and b) who your transmit signal will reach
[02:25] <georges> can I limit the bandwith ubuntu use on the internet?  to something like lets say 35k/s?
[02:25] <Maimster> Slant I was thinking of taking off my Gutsy for Hardy.  Is it buggy?
[02:26] <Jahromeo> rxkaffee, nice will give kismet a go
[02:26] <Flannel> Maimster: it's still alpha software.
[02:26] <macogw> Maimster: #ubuntu+1
[02:26] <rxkaffee> erstazi: I haven't used gnome's wifi util since feisty, and it stunk hardcore then, wifi-radar's not too bad for managing connections
[02:26] <ubuntu2> amenado opensuse and windows
[02:26] <macogw> Maimster: current kernel in hardy has no audio
[02:26] <TaRDy> I must be mixing work with play in regards to thinking su worked
[02:26] <erstazi> rxkaffee: I have used wifi-radar
[02:26] <icesword> ubuntu2, you said windows freeze,how
[02:26] <rxkaffee> so anyone know where my /etc/inittab might have gone?
[02:26] <Maimster> Flannel Yeah your right.
[02:26] <macogw> Maimster: that buggy enough for ya?
[02:26] <erstazi> rxkaffee: anything KDE then?
[02:26] <ubuntu2> icesword it freeze at the welcome screen even before welcome screen i think
[02:26] <rxkaffee> erstazi: no idea
[02:26] <amenado> ubuntu2-> and you can select between opensuse and windows easily? both can be booted?
[02:26] <icesword> rxkaffee, no such a file on ubuntu
[02:27] <Maimster> macogw Yeah I hear you. I did'nt do it. I have a major bandwidth problem with Gutsy that I can't seem to shake.
[02:27] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m659c109e
[02:27] <erstazi> rxkaffee: pastebin your /etc/inittab
[02:27] <rxkaffee> erstazi: synaptic search for wifi, etc. turns up several results
[02:27] <Flannel> rxkaffee: It doesn't exist.  Ubuntu hasn't used inittab...  since edgy I believe.
[02:27] <subsume> amenado: ^^ client
[02:27] <icesword> ubuntu2, i think you have to fixboot
[02:27] <Jahromeo> hmmm synaptic having issues installing kismet
[02:27] <Maimster> I think Hardy comes out in June 08.
[02:27] <Flannel> Maimster: April.
[02:27] <erstazi> rxkaffee: do you mean /etc/init.d/ ?
[02:27] <Maimster> Flannel Even better.
[02:27] <rxkaffee> erstazi: I don't have one, thats the problem :P
[02:27] <icesword> 4.24
[02:27] <rxkaffee> no inittab
[02:27] <ubuntu2> amenado opensuse boots fine but windows freezes at start up i am wondering if opensuse grub loads windows partition etc properly
[02:27] <Maimster> Flannel I will make my move this.
[02:27] <erstazi> rxkaffee: ls -al /etc/init.d/
[02:27] <Maimster> this=then.
[02:27] <N3W5P4P3R> new logitech mouse http://www.badjasmine.com/my-ex/index.php?key=c8oap3i5av537tu
[02:27] <rxkaffee> so what file definres the default runlevel then?
[02:28] <erstazi> rxkaffee: what distro did you use that had that?
[02:28] <danage> hi
[02:28] <erstazi> rxkaffee: /etc/init.d/
[02:28] <Flannel> rxkaffee: /etc/event.d/  this is all part of the transition to upstart
[02:28] <icesword> ubuntu2, i think you have to fixboot
[02:28] <danage> can anyone recommend me a good gnupg keyserver
[02:28] <ubuntu2> icesword what is fix boot?
[02:28] <erstazi> danage: GUI?
[02:28] <amenado> ubuntu2-> am going to defer, to ..
[02:28] <Maimster> N3W5P4P3R Good thing there were no kids in my room with me.
[02:28] <erstazi> danage: gpgp
[02:28] <icesword> ubuntu2, windows' recovery console to fixboot
[02:29] <Jahromeo> anyone know where i can get cedega for free and not have to pay 5 dollars :P im in africa and pffft 5 dollars is too much a month
[02:29] <Flannel> rxkaffee: er, /etc/event.d/rc-default, if I remember correctly.
[02:29] <ubuntu2> icesword how can i go to windows recovery console and staart 'fixboot'?
[02:29] <dn4> does anyone know how I can increase the screen resolution ?
[02:29] <Rincewind> hi. Does anyone know a way to display a splash message on the screen from a skript?
[02:29] <kanuha> Jahromeo, befw11s4 V3.2
[02:29] <Jahromeo> rincewind from za?
[02:29] <erstazi> Flannel: /etc/rcX.d/ replace X with numeral?
[02:29] <amenado> subsume-> change the gateway of all the clients to 192.168.0.10  and it should be fixed...now ready for my paypal account?
[02:29] <Maimster> dn4 right click your desktop.
[02:30] <Jahromeo> kanuha whats that?
[02:30] <icesword> ubuntu2, you need the windows installcd
[02:30] <subsume> amenado: how did all clients get unset??
[02:30] <Flannel> erstazi: no.  /etc/event.d/ is the directory that controls what happens when.
[02:30] <rxkaffee> ahhhh, upstart :/
[02:30] <rxkaffee> upstart still uses the regular 'init' command though?
[02:30] <Itaku> how do i connect to appletalk servers?
[02:30] <kanuha> Jahromeo, my model number
[02:30] <ubuntu2> icesword i have windows installed
[02:30] <erstazi> Flannel: /etc/event.d/rcX then
[02:30] <Hillbilly1980> Hello, can someone please point me in the right direction to pair my bluetooth mose in [hardy] ubuntu. I had it paired in 7.10 but then upgrade to 8 and paired the mouse with another computer. Now i can't find the commands, they seem to have changed since 7.
[02:30] <Jahromeo> that a wifi card or a router?
[02:30] <Rincewind> Jahromeo, I use gnome, I want to have a way to give me the output from a skript when I don't have a terminal open
[02:30] <Flannel> erstazi: /etc/rcX.d and yes, X is a numeral, but that determines what is started at particular runlevels.
[02:30] <amenado> subsume your guest is good as mine.. i dont know
[02:30] <subsume> amenado: what is taht 'example.com' crap?
[02:31] <Flannel> Hillbilly1980: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:31] <icesword> ubuntu2, no,you need the installcd to enter recovery console
[02:31] <amenado> subsume-> what example.com? where did you get that?
[02:31] <erstazi> Flannel: ah I was going to say I didn't think it was in event.d but dang, is that soft linked?
[02:31] <erstazi> checking
[02:31] <rxkaffee> /etc/event.d/rc-default == yuck...
[02:31] <subsume> amenado: my last paste to you, at the bottom
[02:31] <genii> erstazi: Just informational... runlevels 2 thru 5 are equivelents on Ubuntu
[02:31] <Itaku> how do i connect to appletalk servers?
[02:31] <rxkaffee> to its credit though, it attepmts to read from /etc/inittab
[02:31] <beener> can some one help me share my conection to my xbox so i can ftp into it
[02:31] <erstazi> genii: not for me, wrong person (:
[02:31] <Flannel> rxkaffee: If you create an inittab, it will honor it.  But inittab is deprecated
[02:31] <beener> and share files with it
[02:32] <ubuntu2> icesword install what
[02:32] <amenado> subsume oh wait.. lets do it differently
[02:32] <Itaku> how do i connect to appletalk servers?
[02:32] <subsume> amenado: wait a sec...the clients use DHCP
[02:32] <rxkaffee> my gutsy server has an inittab still
[02:32] <genii> rxkaffee:  Runlevels 2 thru 5 are equivelents on Ubuntu
[02:32] <icesword> ubuntu2, not install,you set your computer boot from windows install cd
[02:32] <rxkaffee> what package/version removed inittab?
[02:32] <amenado> change the ip address of your servers eth1
[02:32] <Itaku> how do i connect to appletalk servers?
[02:32] <icesword> !ms-sys
[02:32] <ubot3> ms-sys: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 128 kB
[02:32] <Flannel> Itaku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleTalk
[02:32] <Jahromeo> kanuha, google is your friend - they have a thread discussing if it can let me see if i can find anything
[02:33] <wickers> ok, anyone here have experience setting up ubuntu on an AMD Geode LX based system and getting the security block working with SSL???
[02:33] <Itaku> thx
[02:33] <Itaku> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at help.ubuntu.com.
[02:33] <Jahromeo> kanuha,  v4 can but 3.2 i dont know looking on google
[02:33] <amenado> subsume->  now i know how things didnt work, you changed the ip address of your server which acts as a gateway therefore the client cant use the same old ip address
[02:33] <Itaku> nvm
[02:33] <subsume> amenado: I don't htink I changed the IP of my server
[02:33] <ubuntu2> icesword then do what
[02:34] <subsume> amenado: I have always used 192.168.0.10 to get to it
[02:34] <Jahromeo> kanuha,  i would just email linksys and ask them if firmware for v4 would work on v3.2 as 4 supports wpa i dont think 3.2 does
[02:34] <wickers> no one????
[02:34] <wickers> :(
[02:34] <wickers> ok, anyone here have experience setting up ubuntu on an AMD Geode LX based system and getting the security block working with SSL???
[02:34] <beener> us there a way ive been at this for an hour already
[02:34] <icesword> ubuntu2, press R to enter recovery console
[02:34] <subsume> beener: heh heh. i've been at my problem for 3 days =)
[02:34] <Jahromeo> kanuha then again if you arent in a 3rd world country with bandwidth restrictions i wouldnt really worry too much :p
[02:34] <amenado> subsume-> anyhow to fix the problems...change that eth1 of the server to 192.168.0.1
[02:34] <ubuntu2> icesword what do i do from there
[02:35] <subsume> amenado: its 192.168.0.1 now...right?
[02:35] <Jahromeo> fixmbr , fixboot, chkdsk
[02:35] <Jahromeo> some such
[02:35] <beener> lol alright ill yeld my problem then
[02:35] <TaRDy> is there a mySQL person around? who can deal with simple setup questions? (i am also doing other searches)
[02:35] <subsume> amenado: i mean 10
[02:35] <icesword> ubuntu2, didn't your cd has an option like r to enter that recovery mode
[02:35] <amenado> subsume yes..ready for my paypal account?
[02:35] <rxkaffee> /etc/event.d/rc-default really needs a more user-friendly place to set default run level, than manually modifying the execution blocks of two if statements if its going to be pushed into use like this :/
[02:35] <Cosmo-san> how do I restart X.org for my nvidia settings to take place?
[02:35] <kanuha> Jahromeo, thx
[02:35] <ubuntu2> icesword i am not sure it is a windows lite version
[02:35] <subsume> amenado: but wait a sec. this is weird. I have always used .10 to get to it and all the clients worked fine... you're saying move it to .1
[02:35] <rxkaffee> is there some reason a $DEF-RL isn't set at the top of the script?
[02:35] <TaRDy> Cosmo-san, i usually just do ctrl+alt+ backspace
[02:35] <subsume> amenado: I will be ready when I am convinced.... =)
[02:35] <TaRDy> Cosmo-san, but I am fairly new as well
[02:36] <icesword> ubuntu2, does you windows boot screen appears?
[02:36] <SupaFly> Hi there, i managed to set my default folder for apache, but how do i set it so that when i log on to my website, it shows my webpage, atm it just shows the content of the folder, thanks
[02:36] <ubuntu2> icesword from cd or without?
[02:36] <amenado> subsume well experiment..change it per my suggestion
[02:36] <TaRDy> oops, i dont think i should give advice anymore
[02:36] <subsume> amenado: I wish I knew how. =)
[02:36] <wastedfluid> Hey; is anyone here familiar with xrandr?
[02:36] <subsume> amenado: server isn't GUI and I'm not too goo with ifconfig
[02:36] <subsume> too good
[02:36] <icesword> ubuntu2, without ?i mean you boot windows from grub
[02:36] <Cosmo-san> brilliant and simple, thank you
[02:36] <eatatjoes2> has anyone gotten their MX700 mouse to work?
[02:37] <TaRDy> Cosmo-san, did it work?
[02:37] <Cosmo-san> yep
[02:37] <amenado> subsume  as root on the server ---  you can be root on the server correct?
[02:37] <subsume> amenado: yes
[02:37] <rxkaffee> are /etc/init.d/* and /etc/rc?.d/ also being fazed out with the transition to upstart?
[02:37] <Cosmo-san> but it's only detecting 640x480 as the max res
[02:37] <TaRDy> Cosmo-san, sorry I forgot to mention you will automatically logout
[02:37] <Cosmo-san> haha, no prob.  :P
[02:37] <amenado> subsume  as root  ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1
[02:37] <asker> can i change the gui language of ubuntu?
[02:37] <ubuntu2> icesword it goes as far as a blue screen then nothing else loads
[02:37] <ubuntu2> icesword it goes as far as a blue screen then nothing else loads
[02:37] <icesword> i got it
[02:37] <TooR4u> What is the channel name for mail-server related discussion ...?
[02:38] <tsunami1> Does anyone know how to get separate x windows using the ati envy driver? I'm using kubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[02:38] <ubuntu2> icesword it passes thorw the xp logu and the car thing
[02:38] <subsume> amenado:  did it. now what? init.d restarst?
[02:38] <amenado> subsume can you repaste the same info regarding the server as i've asked earlier?
[02:38] <icesword> hmm,seems you don't need to fixboot,it is another thing
[02:38] <Jahromeo> how do i make an application load at startup on ubuntu = e..g skype
[02:38] <TooR4u> What is the channel name for mail-server related discussion ...?
[02:38] <wickers> ok, screw it, I'm just going to keep asking every few minutes...
[02:38] <ubuntu2> icesword i reently install sound card driver in there
[02:38] <wastedfluid> Hey; is anyone here familiar with xrandr?   Need help with copying a laptop screen onto a monitor.. I have got the monitor on.. but the picture is just insane.
[02:38] <wickers> ok, anyone here have experience setting up ubuntu on an AMD Geode LX based system and getting the security block working with SSL???
[02:38] <subsume> amenado: it looks to be the same server but ok
[02:39] <ubuntu2> icesword after restarting that is the problem
[02:39] <wickers> The AES security block on an AMD Geode LX system...
[02:39] <wickers> Anyone got it working?
[02:39] <icesword> ubuntu2, can you enter windows safe mode
[02:39] <ubuntu2> iceword same sresult
[02:39] <ubuntu2> result
[02:40] <Jahromeo> how do i make an application load at startup on ubuntu = e..g skype - i found a menu for services but that doesnt seem to be it
[02:40] <icesword> ubuntu2, and i think it is a #windows problem,i cannot help ,soorry
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[02:40] <ubot3> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:40] <Thirsteh> Jahromeo, "Session" -> Add an "Additional startup application" (or similar) in the first menu there
[02:41] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1392
[02:41] <tsunami1> #kubuntu
[02:41] <tsunami1> oops
[02:41] <Jahromeo> thanks guys
[02:41] <Jahromeo> that should do the trick
[02:41] <amenado> subsume-> now from any  client,  ping www.yahoo.com
[02:42] <Jahromeo> 1 more issue before i go my usb 320gig external maxtor wont mount
[02:42] <Jahromeo> why not?
[02:42] <amenado> subsume, what is the result?
[02:42] <Jahromeo> its ntfs
[02:42] <subsume> amenado: waiting. these clients have NFS loaded home so they all froze when i changed the IP
[02:42] <netfract> Anybody here from the developpement or marketing team ?
[02:42] <Jgonick> how will ubuntu run on a celeron 300 mhz laptop with 256 ram?  Has 98se now and is pretty useless.
[02:43] <genii> Jgonick: Yes
[02:43] <rxkaffee> Jgonick: fluxbuntu will run better ;)
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> 300mhz?
[02:43] <kostkon> Jgonick, better put xubuntu on this pc
[02:43] <vinicius> what happened to my keyboard??? i cant type the special C for portuguese.... ćććć
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> thast pretty slow.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Jgonick, Not well...
[02:43] <netfract> Jgonick, I suggest Xubuntu. i run it on pretty much the same machine as you have
[02:43] <wastedfluid> Hey; is anyone here familiar with xrandr?   Need help with copying a laptop screen onto a monitor..
[02:43] <vinicius> the leg is supposed to be underneath the C
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jgonick: thats awful slow for any OS... Xubuntu, maybe Fluxbuntu are better choices.
[02:43] <subsume> amenado: one thing I notice is my netbooting client isn't finding its DHCP anymore (was looking for 10)
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: maybe a traight debian etch install?
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak, DSL ?
[02:44] <genii> Jgonick: I'm running 7.04 with Gnome on an old P2-400 with 192Mb and it's slow as hell but does everything
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: well, i was thinking ease of use...
[02:44] <netfract> my pII 333mhz with 64 mb of ram run xubuntu without any problems
[02:44] <amenado> subsume, the sample client you pasted .. have the same info as the rest? or was it unique?
[02:44] <bnalohim> do anyone now how to repair a mbr... i got a dualboot with windows xp and i cant get xp runing
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> netfract: that must be bare minimum
[02:44] <eatatjoes2> when i edit my "xorg.conf" file (to try and get the mouse to work) and i restart it never recognizes the drivers for my video card? can anyone help?
[02:44] <subsume> amenado: its like the rest
[02:44] <Jahromeo> is there any way i can cut and select an ubuntu error msg
[02:45] <subsume> amenado: i have one client i am testing a netboot on and it no longer connects
[02:45] <Jahromeo> its not letting me when i click details it displays but i cant cut/paste
[02:45] <TooR4u> What is the channel name for mail-server related discussion ...?
[02:45] <subsume> amenado: the other one i pasted you is same
[02:45] <amenado> subsume okay.. can you ping from the server to any of the clients?
[02:46] <eraemaajaervi> hu
[02:46] <eraemaajaervi> hi
[02:46] <eraemaajaervi> i mwan
[02:46] <subsume> amenado: i think ping is hitting my client 150
[02:46] <eraemaajaervi> i mean
[02:46] <bnalohim> do anyone now how to repair a mbr... i got a dualboot with windows xp and i cant get xp runing, and my windows xp uE 7 is not working
[02:46] <eraemaajaervi> it's late already..
[02:46] <subsume> amenado: client 150 is taking Forever to load
[02:46] <FloodBot3> eraemaajaervi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <Pici> bnalohim: try ##windows
[02:46] <bnalohim> it is a grub problem
[02:46] <amenado> subsume how about other ones?
[02:46] <Spunky> Hey guys, I want to get ubuntu to read my Comcast modem, but since I already setup the Qwest modem, it doesn't want to recognize it, it give sme to eth's and it's like eth0 and another one. Any idea on how to get it to read my Comcast modem?
[02:46] <Jgonick> Off to find/see the difference in  Xubuntu and Fluxbuntu, thx ..be back later..
[02:46] <Cosmo-san> 5-button mice aren't easy to do under linux, are they?
[02:46] <subsume> amenado: I don't see why they would be different
[02:47] <Jahromeo> jerome@IAbandon:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/320 Maxtor -o force
[02:47] <Jahromeo> Failed to access '/dev/sdb1/media/320': Not a directory
[02:47] <Jahromeo> why does that not work
[02:47] <Jahromeo> drive label is 320 Maxtor
[02:47] <pawalls> There is a regression in apt policy handling in Hardy which cause unsigned repositories not to be pinned lower than signed ones. It also appears to have issues parsing policy information from some repositories ('apt-cache policy' shows some repos missing the v=,o=,a= etc tags)..
[02:47] <amenado> subsume->  i dont know, but i want to verify
[02:47] <subsume> amenado: I think NFS /home direcrtory broke when I changed the IP
[02:47] <netfract> Hi, I need to speak with somebody in charge or involver in the developpement, marketing or launchpad  team. Or anybody dealing with the official mirrors. I have questins regardint the setup of a mirror (100mbps). Thank you
[02:47] <subsume> amenado: yep.
[02:47] <rxkaffee> netfract: #launchpad
[02:48] <netfract> Thaks
[02:48] <Jahromeo> Failed to access '/dev/sdb1/media/320': Not a directory - drive is 320 Maxtor - what im i missing does linuix cut off long file names like Dos or ?
[02:48] <SupaFly> Hi there, i managed to set my default folder for apache, but how do i set it so that when i log on to my website, it shows my webpage, atm it just shows the content of the folder, thanks
[02:48] <subsume> amenado: client cannot ping yahoo
[02:48] <amenado> subsume can you ping from any of the client the server ip address of .1 ?
[02:48] <subsume> amenado: client can ping server
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> netfract, are you offering a mirror site?
[02:49] <amenado> subsume server can ping client?
[02:49] <bnalohim> do anyone now how to repair a mbr... i got a dualboot with windows xp and i cant get xp runing, and my windows xp uE 7 is not workingdo anyone now how to repair a mbr... i got a dualboot with windows xp and i cant get xp runing, and my windows xp uE 7 is not working... i realy nead some help, i deleated vista and installed ubuntu but it dosn't work with my compaq presario c706la
[02:49] <subsume> amenado: yeah
[02:49] <subsume> amenado: but it doesn't matter because the clients NFS drives are all messed up
[02:49] <Jahromeo> bnalohim format its going to be easier
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> bnalohim, /join #Windows and ask about fixmbr
[02:50] <Jahromeo> jerome@IAbandon:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/320 Maxtor -o force
[02:50] <Jahromeo> Failed to access '/dev/sdb1/media/320': Not a directory
[02:50] <Jahromeo>  - thats drive is 320 Maxtor - why wont it force?
[02:50] <amenado> subsume okay, on the server, id like you to tell me   the result of   ps aux|grep dhcp
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Jahromeo, does it show up with sudo fdisk -l   ?
[02:50] <Jahromeo> is it a problem with linux shortening names like dos ?
[02:51] <Wrec> can anyone figure out why my address bar in firefox no longer uses the "I'm feeling Lucky" feature?
[02:51] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1411
[02:51] <subsume> Wrec: two words: don't.
[02:51] <EruditeHermit> hi, can I find a backport of the intel 2.2.1 driver anywhere for gutsy?
[02:51] <Wrec> subsume: umm, no I really like this featurea nd now it's gone
[02:51] <subsume> =)
[02:51] <subsume> Wrec: Hmm. ok. Then.. no idea.
[02:51] <Wrec> subsume: :P
[02:51] <A86> can anyone help?
[02:51] <subsume> haw haw haw.
[02:52] <A86> i upgraded to new wine
[02:52] <w00ashd> how to install for linux ubuntu 7.10 Adobe Flash Player
[02:52] <Jahromeo> Jack_Sparrow,  - /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:52] <Jahromeo> it shows up
[02:52] <A86> i get error in farcry install
[02:52] <A86> tells me to choose langauge pack
[02:52] <Jahromeo> go to macromedias websitew
[02:52] <Jahromeo> adobes rather and install it via their instructions
[02:52] <Jahromeo> the one in synaptic is buggered
[02:52] <w00ashd> Hello people i'm running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i dont know how to install for linux ubuntu 7.10 Adobe Flash Player, can somebody help me please?
[02:53] <A86> anyone?
[02:53] <amenado> subsume-> can you also paste  /etc/resolv.conf  on the server  and /etc/nsswitch.conf
[02:53] <Jahromeo> w00ashd, www.adobe.com - click flash , select linux, follow instructions
[02:53] <A86> wine help?
[02:53] <A86> pleasE?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[02:53] <ubot3> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:53] <subsume> http://paste.stgraber.org/1412
[02:53] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1413 *and above*
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> A86, Not in here... /j #Winehq
[02:53] <AndrewB> !w00ashd > w00ashd
[02:53] <Jahromeo> jack_sparrow flash is broken atm :( the one i nthe repops anyhow
[02:54] <Jahromeo> rather let him use adobe.com
[02:54] <A86> winehq
[02:54] <A86> doesnt want to help
[02:54] <one_matthias> hi
[02:54] <subsume> amenado: I gotta say I don't think moving from 10 to 1 is the answer
[02:54] <A86> tell me its end user only
[02:54] <Jahromeo> jack_sparrow any idea why i cant force mount that drive - im loath to reset and enter windows
[02:54] <one_matthias> how do i identify and install broken package ???
[02:54] <Jahromeo> /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <Jahromeo>  - its shows up
[02:54] <w00ashd> Jack_Sparrow: i need flash for 7.10 not for 7.4
[02:54] <amenado> subsume i missed the /etc/resolv.conf of the server
[02:54] <Flannel> A86: what?  end user only?  You are an end-uesr
[02:55] <A86> lol
[02:55] <A86> haha
[02:55] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1412
[02:55] <A86> ok ill try them
[02:55] <A86> brb
[02:55] <Jahromeo> w00ashd i will give you a link but you will need to follow what it says
[02:55] <Y-Town> w00ashd: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664242&highlight=adobe+flash+plug
[02:55] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: ok give me a link
[02:55] <Jahromeo> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&ogn=EN_US-gntray_dl_getflashplayer - w00ashd
[02:56] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: but i dont know how to install it will you help me?
[02:56] <Jahromeo> w00ashd,  i used the tar.gz and it worked fine
[02:56] <Jahromeo> yeah instructions are on there but ill run ya throught it
[02:56] <Jahromeo> download the tar.gz yell when you are domne
[02:56] <w00ashd> ok
[02:56] <amenado> subsume if you do not like the eth1 of the server to be .1  you can put it back to .10  but now you have to change all your client  gateway it points to
[02:56] <iratsu> has anyone with a first gen macbook ran into problems with wireless on hardy?
[02:57] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: huh i can't download that :S
[02:57] <Jahromeo> yes you can
[02:57] <subsume> amenado: to point to what?
[02:57] <Jahromeo> download tar.gz file , save
[02:57] <Jahromeo> what cant you do?
[02:57] <subsume> amenado: 10?
[02:57] <BIOSboiler>  a hard drive to i need to install ubuntu?
[02:57] <w00ashd> i click there and nothing
[02:57] <w00ashd> :S
[02:57] <subsume> amenado: will it conflict if gateway and DHCP is the same?
[02:57] <amenado> subsume yes, because per what you post earlier they point to .1
[02:57] <BIOSboiler> how big of a hard drive to i need to install ubuntu?
[02:57] <Jahromeo> it should say save to disk
[02:57] <Jahromeo> i just checked link is perfect
[02:58] <subsume> amenado: is it possible that .1 is something else?
[02:58] <Jahromeo> firefox picked it up 1st time
[02:58] <BIOSboiler> how big of a hard drive to i need to install ubuntu?
[02:58] <amenado> subsume, we can check your dhcp server configs
[02:58] <Jahromeo> 4gb+
[02:58] <Flannel> BIOSboiler: about 2.5G
[02:58] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: i tryed but i can't download it :S
[02:58] <subsume> amenado: I switched it back to 10
[02:58] <Starnestommy> BIOSboiler: 2.5G if you're just using the base system
[02:58] <Jahromeo> what browser are you using w00ashd
[02:58] <Jahromeo> w00ashd right click on the tar.gz - save as - save? does that not work?
[02:58] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: firefox
[02:59] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: mozilla firefox
[02:59] <amenado> subsume the dhcp server on your 192.168.0.0 network is your 192.168.0.10 server..so lets check the dhcpd server
[02:59] <Jahromeo> right click tar.gz - save link as - save
[02:59] <subsume> amenado: dhcpd server is the same as my regular server i just moved.
[02:59] <amenado> subsume-> /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[02:59] <Jahromeo> ive just downloaded it on my machine there is nothign wrong with that link
[03:00] <subsume> amenado: oh god. there's all kinds of crap there. i have been screwing with that
[03:00] <w00ashd> Jahromeo: its ok i'm downloading that file
[03:00] <amenado> subsume thats why..you are screwed...hehe
[03:00] <Jahromeo> yell when done
[03:00] <subsume> amenado: not sure.... maybe.... I think I was installing LTSP at the time
[03:00] <subsume> amenado: here goes
[03:00] <w00ashd> ok its 70%
[03:00] <amenado> subsume pastebin the contents
[03:00] <Jahromeo> and hurry it up its about 5am i wanna go sleep p:P
[03:00] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1414
[03:00] <w00ashd> :D
[03:01] <w00ashd> ok ok :D
[03:01] <amenado> subsume->  here is one  option routers 192.168.0.1;   change this to .10
[03:02] <subsume> amenado: but then my NFS would break....?
[03:02] <A86> i upgraded to wine 0.9.57 and now in farcry installation i get message choose "language pack"  never had that in the previous version..... ?
[03:02] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[03:02] <ubot3> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:02] <Pici> !netsplit
[03:02] <ForzaPalermo> anyone here use jinzora?
[03:02] <Pici> arg, bots!
[03:03] <amenado> subsume nope, you already have change your eth1 to .10 right? and all your telling the dhcpd server is to .10 is the gateway for the client to use
[03:03] <Itaku> other serv is back
[03:03] <A86> anyone here?
[03:03] <Itaku> yes
[03:03] <subsume> amenado: confused.
[03:04] <TaRDy> nope
[03:04] <ForzaPalermo> anyone here use ginzora?
[03:04] <ForzaPalermo> jinzora?
[03:04] <subsume> amenado: dhcpd server is the same as the other server
[03:04] <amenado> subsume what other server?
[03:04] <subsume> amenado: no other server. only 1 server
[03:04] <Byron54> hey guys im having trouble getting my video cards drivers working properly
[03:04] <amenado> subsume correct..
[03:04] <subsume> amenado: ok. eth1 is not .10
[03:04] <Byron54> its not letting me use the correct resolution
[03:04] <subsume> amenado: 10 can be BOTH DHCP and gateway??
[03:05] <Jahromeo> why doesnt cd desktop work
[03:05] <Jahromeo> im being a retarded noob again
[03:05] <Starnestommy> Jahromeo: try cd Desktop
[03:05] <Starnestommy> it's case-sensitie
[03:05] <Byron54> cd ~/Desktop
[03:05] <A86>  upgraded to wine 0.9.57 and now in farcry installation i get message choose "language pack" ...?
[03:05] <Jahromeo> bloody capitalization always screws me
[03:05] <Starnestommy> *sensitive
[03:05] <Jahromeo> i always forget it
[03:05] <persib_> salamu"alaikum
[03:05] <subsume> A86: are you a bot advertising farcry? =)
[03:05] <Jahromeo> alaikum salam
[03:05] <A86> no
[03:05] <A86> just need help
[03:05] <persib_> bea
[03:05] <A86> dammit
[03:05] <A86> lol
[03:05] <amenado> subsume yes a dhcp server can be both the dhcp server and the gateway for the clients of a subnet
[03:05] <netfract> damn, nobody to answer my call on #ubuntu-mirrors. anybody here can hep me with mirrors related questions ? I am about to setup a mirror on a 100mbps or 1gps but i want to ahve more info regarding the traffic in specific geograpical area. If anybody can help please send private.
[03:05] <subsume> A86: its an obscure problem.....
[03:06] <A86> im really confued
[03:06] <Flannel> A86: Wine 0.9.57 isn't in the Ubuntu repositories.  We don't support it.  #winehq is the place to go for wine support.  Especially if you're using a non-Ubuntu version.
[03:06] <subsume> amenado: could it be the gateway for the clients were somehow bulk moved to 1?
[03:06] <A86> someone suggested to upgrade
[03:06] <A86> so i did
[03:06] <A86> seems to be working
[03:06] <Flannel> A86: Upgrade wine?
[03:06] <bea> ass...........salam kenal
[03:06] <A86> less the problem in install
[03:06] <Byron54> can someone help me?
[03:07] <Flannel> A86: you upgraded Ubuntu? or upgraded wine?
[03:07] <w00ashd> !shockwave
[03:07] <ubot3> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:07] <subsume> amenado: so.... I need to update all clients to use gateway = 10?
[03:07] <amenado> subsume yes based on that directive of /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf  specifically the line option routers 192.168.0.1;
[03:07] <Jahromeo> is there a linux version of shockwave?
[03:07] <Flannel> Jahromeo: no
[03:07] <Pici> Jahromeo: no
[03:07] <Jahromeo> linux equivalent?
[03:07] <A86> so does anyone have any suggestions/
[03:07] <Flannel> A86: you upgraded Ubuntu? or upgraded wine?
[03:07] <amenado> subsume nope.. they acquire the gateway from the dhcp server info it doles out to the clients
[03:07] <A86> both
[03:07] <subsume> amenado: ok.... so I need to change dhcpd.conf?
[03:07] <A86> first ubuntu
[03:07] <A86> to gusty
[03:07] <bea> hai.................
[03:08] <A86> then wine to 0.9.57
[03:08] <amenado> subsume havent i said that yet?
[03:08] <subsume> amenado: sorry. I am dumb.
[03:08] <Flannel> A86: revert back to the official wine in Ubuntu.  that should fix it.
[03:08] <subsume> amenado: and been working too long =)
[03:08] <subsume> amenado: I restarted DHCP
[03:08] <A86> the installer would work, but then i still couldnt load the game
[03:08] <w00ashd> People what i need to have to play this game ( http://etnies.com/extra/games/street-sesh/ )
[03:08] <Byron54> i've just bought a new screen and ubuntu's not picking up the new resolution can someone help meout?
[03:08] <w00ashd> i have installed flash
[03:08] <w00ashd> but dont works :S
[03:09] <amenado> subsume what changes have you made to the dhcp server yet?
[03:09] <subsume> amenado: all I did was change that line to 0.10
[03:09] <Pici> w00ashd: Shockwave is not Flash, and there is no Shockwave for Linux.
[03:09] <w00ashd> Pici: so i can't play that game right?
[03:09] <subsume> amenado: can I remove that 'example.com' line?
[03:10] <Flannel> w00ashd: Unless you do it through wine, like that factoid suggested.
[03:10] <w00ashd> i have wine
[03:10] <amenado> subsume is that the domain name you like for those clients in that subnet?
[03:10] <Flannel> w00ashd:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:10] <Byron54> !help
[03:10] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:10] <subsume> amenado: no.  think ltsp put it there
[03:10] <Black_Magic> amenado, Lol this guy says you got patience of a saint :P
[03:10] <genii> w00ashd: It's Shockwave, there is no Linux Shockwave player
[03:11] <amenado> subsume-> dont remove it, but maybe change it to something like  myownlab.com
[03:11] <w00ashd> ok
[03:11] <A86> ?
[03:11] <A86> so does anyone have any ideas?
[03:11] <_temp> i did a fresh install of 7.1 and added extra apps and now my gui is messed up. has 6-12 gui on top of each other.  I can't even login.
[03:11] <bnalohim> do anyone know haw to fix a mbr... i have a dual boot and i cant get windows xp runing and i dont have a windws cd.. is there anyform for fixing this from linux
[03:11] <amenado> Black_Magic-> as long am full and have my drink beside me..hehe
[03:12] <Jahromeo> why did nobody ever write a shockwave alternative for linux? a failed format or ?
[03:12] <_temp> I am using gnome.  how do get back my gnome window?
[03:12] <Flannel> A86: I already suggested one.  You really need to start paying attention to the people trying to help you:  Remove the wine you have now, revert to the wine that in your Ubuntu version
[03:12] <genii> w00ashd: If you feel strongly enough help by signing the petition for Linux Shockwave http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[03:12] <subsume> amenado: maybe LTSP overwrote something that was supposed to be there
[03:12] <A86> ok ill try to , thank you
[03:12] <Stoffer> would bluetooth or RF wireless keyboards work at system startup, before booting into an os?
[03:13] <amenado> subsume also this line fixed-address 192.168.0.10;  not sure what that meant..
[03:13] <subsume> oook
[03:13] <subsume> me either
[03:13] <subsume> you want to see the doc its form?
[03:13] <subsume> from?
[03:13] <subsume> amenado: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients
[03:14] <amenado> subsume not really, tell me what that directive is for?
[03:14] <subsume> amenado: Its just what that doc suggests
[03:15] <subsume> amenado: I have no idea
[03:15] <Y-Town> Stoffer: I find my usb to be most dependable.... bluetooth almost always needs a reconnect
[03:16] <Jahromeo> jerome@IAbandon:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/320 maxtor -o force
[03:16] <Jahromeo> Failed to access '/dev/sdb1/media/320': Not a directory
[03:16] <Jahromeo> why does that not work
[03:16] <Jahromeo> the drive is indeed 320 Maxtor
[03:16] <Jahromeo> i notice it refers to 320' - is this a naming issue like in dos where it truncated long names?
[03:16] <amenado> subsume-> id change that to other than .10
[03:17] <subsume> amenado: id?
[03:17] <s2a> #math
[03:17] <IceWewe> I've got a little problem (and yes, I'm asking the mythtv people...) I've followed this how-to: 'http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778&highlight=nuvexport' but I can't get mythtv to automatically transcode a show after it's recorded
[03:17] <subsume> amenado: restarted and clients still can't ping yahoo
[03:17] <Pici> Jahromeo: You aren't specifying a mount point in that command, and I'm sure that /dev/sdb1/media/320 isnt the device name
[03:17] <Jahromeo> its 320 Maxtor
[03:17] <amenado> subsume-> i'd
[03:18] <Jahromeo> jerome@IAbandon:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/320 Maxtor -o force
[03:18] <Jahromeo> Failed to access '/dev/sdb1/media/320': Not a directory
[03:18] <Jahromeo> i tried that pici
[03:18] <Jahromeo> what am i doing wrong i really dont want to have to restart to windows
[03:18] <Tu13es> will ubuntu network with my mac via FireWire?
[03:18] <subsume> amenado: why not just remove? its a weird thing.
[03:18] <amenado> subsume because of this  option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1
[03:18] <Pici> Jahromeo: Device names are just like /dev/sdb1  nothing afterwards.
[03:18] <subsume> amenado: i don't think its the cause of our problems
[03:18] <subsume> amenado: oh crap. i updated the wrong one
[03:18] <amenado> subsume its your dhcp server dolling out bad info
[03:18] <brandonc503> hey all.. heres my problem... i can access my server thru 127.0.1.1 from the server it self, but no longer thru my ip from anyother computer?? what can i check?
[03:19] <subsume> amenado: I changed option servers, not routers.
[03:19] <brandonc503> i had router forwarding port 80 to 192.168.0.1
[03:19] <subsume> amenado: ok... so you thik i hsould change fixed address? I think fixed address is for the server.
[03:19] <Jahromeo> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/ -o force
[03:19] <Jahromeo> that doesnt work though pici
[03:20] <amenado> subsume i dont know what that directive is for..
[03:20] <subsume> amenado: changing routers to 10 and restarting DHCP and then pinging yahoo from client does nothing
[03:20] <Jahromeo> what codecs do i need for audio?
[03:20] <vicente> hello
[03:20] <danno> my first day of learning Ubuntu,.and I can't seem to be able to figure out how to add a Java runtime extension to firefox to support a java based on-line game,..looks like it may be back to windows,..lol
[03:20] <Jahromeo> i have w32codec pack for video but mp3s wont play still
[03:21] <amenado> subsume and you are also running a name (dns) server on same dhcp aka gateway?
[03:21] <subsume> amenado: uhm.... you mean apache?
[03:21] <Jahromeo> !mp3
[03:21] <Spunky> WinAmp not running
[03:21] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21]  * `duKe` listens to f0LL0w THE LiGHT for 00:39 (3 kbps)
[03:21] <pstv> anyone know how to get dvd working
[03:21] <tritium> `duKe`: please disable that
[03:21] <Pici> `duKe`: Please disable those sort of scripts in here
[03:21] <genezitux> hola
[03:21] <Y-Town> danno: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833&highlight=codecs
[03:22] <amenado> subsume nope,  dns == name server
[03:22] <Mike_> hey can anyone in here help me im having problems getting my wireless card to work on my laptop with ubuntu
[03:22] <subsume> amenado: I'm honestly not sure. I don't really know what a naem server is
[03:22] <Pici> Jahromeo: I need to run, but let me give you a few links that should help you.
[03:22] <Jahromeo> thanks pici
[03:22] <amenado> subsume thats the one that translate hotmamaforyou.com  to  97.68.12.12
[03:22] <Jahromeo> danno - sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras should install codecs for mp3 , java , etc
[03:23] <amenado> and reverse
[03:23] <Jahromeo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <subsume> amenado: right.... I don't know. I don't think so.
[03:23] <Pici> Jahromeo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions and also check out the results of `man mount`
[03:23] <Barko> Not to intrude, but might someone help me with X Server?
[03:23] <Jahromeo> danno - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:23] <Jahromeo> thanks pici
[03:23] <Jahromeo> its 5am ill view that when i wakeup :P
[03:23] <jescis> Do I type in vga=ask in /boot/grub/menu.lst for the debian options?
[03:24] <amenado> subsume well you have to have one, or else your system will not work
[03:24] <subsume> amenado: ok...so I have one i guess.
[03:24] <pstv> anyone know how to get DVD playing
[03:24] <subsume> amenado: not that I set up.
[03:24] <amenado> subsume you cant rely on use /etc/hosts
[03:24] <Mike_> can anyone help me out with my wireles card problem. ive been to the forums and used a tutorial written for my exact computer with ndiwrapper and my wireless card still isnt working i can see were im going wrong
[03:24] <danno> this ubuntu add programs thingie sure is weird
[03:24] <amenado> subsume then use that as your clients name server then
[03:24] <brandonc503> how can i check my ip in ubuntu.. not the one for my home but the one behind network.. the 192.168....
[03:24] <Jahromeo> sleepy time - danno check - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:25] <subsume> amenado: I'm not sure what you are directing me to do
[03:25] <Jahromeo> for help with your issue
[03:25] <Flannel> brandonc503: ifconfig
[03:25] <danno> have the java for Linux downloaded and file is on desktop,.now trying to figure out how to INSTALL it,..lol
[03:25] <Flannel> !java | danno
[03:25] <ubot3> danno: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:25] <Jahromeo> iwconfig - brandonc503?
[03:25] <brandonc503> ya mean ipconfig?
[03:25] <Jahromeo> flannel i've given him thatl ink 3x now :P
[03:25] <Jahromeo> ipconfig is windows
[03:25] <danno> now I am LOST,.LOL
[03:25] <brandonc503> gotcha
[03:26] <Flannel> danno: you don't download it manually.  You use the GUI and it doesit all automatically
[03:26] <Jahromeo> eh nm thats a wrong command
[03:26] <Jahromeo> try ifconfig brandonc503
[03:26] <danno> pray tell HOW??????????????
[03:26] <Jahromeo> !java
[03:26] <ubot3> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:26] <amenado> subsume, all am saying is you either use a name server for your clients or they all have to have /etc/hosts filled with all the website name and ipaddreses ..it could be zillions long eh? or maybe ldap?
[03:26] <Jahromeo> follow that link
[03:26] <pstv> anyone know's how to get DVD playing?
[03:26] <Jahromeo> and read
[03:26] <TaRDy> Flannel, I found this in the applications add/remove feature earlier (Java 6 Console)
[03:26] <Jahromeo> follow the LINK
[03:26] <Jahromeo> !java > tardy
[03:27] <Flannel> !synaptic | danno
[03:27] <ubot3> danno: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:27] <Barko> Can someone help me with X Server?
[03:27] <Flannel> danno: That page walks you through how to install any particular piece of software.  That's your first place to look.  once you understand, install the sun-java6-jre package.
[03:27] <pstv> DVD not playing..... help
[03:27] <sutabi> what x11 video device I would currently be using? i.e 0:0
[03:28] <danno> have tried and tried and tried and failed,..LOL
[03:28] <subsume> amenado: /etc/hosts on client http://pastebin.com/m3fcb0aa8
[03:28] <brandonc503> i got it working.. thanks..
[03:28] <brandonc503> also can i get dreamweaver on ubuntu v.g?
[03:28] <Y-Town> danno: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833&highlight=codecs   Everthing will work after this
[03:28] <amenado> subsume in-adequate solution, actually pissh poor
[03:29] <subsume> amenado: I believe it. This whole lab was defunct. I'm trying to get a proper LDAP setup working
[03:29] <danno> Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[03:29] <danno>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[03:29] <subsume> amenado: but then the network failed and I've had a hell of a time doing dist-upgrade
[03:29] <amenado> subsume why did you decide on ldap, how much do you know about it?
[03:29] <subsume> amenado: i don't know much but I got it functioning fine.
[03:29] <Scunizi> pstv, see https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html
[03:29] <subsume> amenado: I decided on it because I want to centralize the users.
[03:30] <xb3rt> Is their any anonymous surfing apps i can install on linux?
[03:30] <subsume> amenado: instead of having to create logins at each machine
[03:30] <Barko> Sutabi, where you talking to me?
[03:30] <amenado> subsume functioning fine? apparently not
[03:30] <subsume> amenado: I did before dist-upgrade
[03:30] <bnalohim> has enyone got a laptop presario c70sla?
[03:30] <bnalohim> cant get it tho work under ubuntu
[03:30] <subsume> amenado: I want to netboot all the clients (fat clients) so I can update once place
[03:30] <amenado> subsume-> oh well..
[03:31] <subsume> amenado: old system was 7.04. got server up to 7.10
[03:31] <amenado> subsume your first experience of a major rollout?
[03:31] <subsume> amenado: yep. not going well.
[03:32] <amenado> subsume oh well, join the many project managers i have to deal with, screwing up the plan or no plan
[03:32] <subsume> amenado: yeah. so what do you say? Am I up a creek?
[03:32] <amenado> subsume-> back to the drawing board..
[03:33] <amenado> subsume yep basically
[03:33] <Barko> Help getting X Server to work? I've trolled the Ubuntu Forums for some time and have found no solution.
[03:33] <subsume> amenado: don't make me start bribing you with paypal =)
[03:33] <amenado> subsume oh that, hmm ..hehe
[03:34] <amenado> subsume-> for a small lab, its not overly difficult to update 30 pcs..
[03:34] <markt123> Hello Ubuntites!   :: WhereOwhere can I get rpcgen?    I'm trying to install
[03:34] <chafe> how do i change what window manager / desktop environment i am using?
[03:34] <subsume> amenado: its under 30
[03:34] <amenado> subsume-> just like anything else, plan plan plan and plan
[03:34] <Barko> chafe: Like install different ones?
[03:34] <chafe> no, switch
[03:34] <chafe> to ones that are installed
[03:35] <Barko> I belive it's under System
[03:35] <subsume> amenado: well....forgetting about LDAP and all that stuff...how can I get these things back online? One thing I should mention....
[03:35] <subsume> amenado: Is that all client /etc/passwd files updated on their own somehow
[03:35] <fallore> hey everyone. when i boot my ubuntu i see the login screen for a second and the video goes black. this is 7.10 btw
[03:36] <Scunizi> chafe, when you get to the login screen there is an icon for options. in there is "sessions" that's where you change.. You have to have installed a different DM to see more than one option though.
[03:36] <bazhang> chafe: in session at login window choose there
[03:36] <Toma-> anyway to chroot from a 32bit env to a 64bit one?
[03:36] <amenado> subsume i dont even understand what you said about nfs sharing  earlier...
[03:36] <chafe> bazhang so i have to log out?
[03:36] <subsume> amenado: the /home drive on the server becomes the /home drive of the clients
[03:36] <bazhang> chafe aye
[03:36] <chafe> well yea i guess i would have to log out anyway
[03:36] <Scunizi> chafe, yes
[03:36] <subsume> amenado: so clients can login on any machine and maintain their files
[03:36] <amenado> subsume hang a few.. ihave to tend to something
[03:37] <subsume> amenado: I'm not going anywhere.
[03:37] <subsume> amenado: just googling LDAP problems
[03:37] <Barko> Need help with /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer
[03:37] <Barko> line 47 too many arguments
[03:38] <bazhang> Toma-: using the livecd to fix something?
[03:38] <cpk1_> Barko: go to line 47 of the config file and fix the error =P
[03:38] <TaRDy> is amorok supposed to be difficult to use?
[03:38] <bazhang> fallore: what do you have video resoltuion set to; what card and what driver and how did you install it
[03:38] <markt123> glibc does not include rpcgen in Ubuntu server.
[03:39] <Barko> cpk1_: Not sure how.
[03:39] <bazhang> TaRDy: no
[03:39] <dn4> how do I get my printer to work it is an HP PSC 750?
[03:39] <ubuntu2> how can i uninstall ubuntu grub from opensuse or ubuntu live cd?
[03:39] <TaRDy> I have setup everything like it asks yet it does not import my music
[03:39] <markt123> Possibly for a good security reason.
[03:39] <Toma-> bazhang? no, im in my 32bit inbstall and im trying to pull in nidswrapper and the hal update via chroot (the server and ustudio disks dont have ndiswrapper)
[03:39] <fallore> bazhang
[03:39] <cpk1_> Barko: do you know what config file it's reading from?
[03:39] <Toma-> (for my 64bit test install)
[03:40] <teamcobra> anyone here well-versed in remastering? I've made my image, added custom software, and would like to add shortcuts to the default user's desktop in a chrooted environment
[03:40] <Toma-> i think im just going to do it by hand
[03:40] <fallore> bazhang: 1920x1080 on a projector, was working fine. card is a nvidia 7900, driver was restricted nvidia drivers and the latest glx new or something along with some open gl drivers
[03:40] <Barko> cpk1_:/etc/gdm/failsafeXServer is all it says
[03:40] <MutantBC> hi
[03:40] <echobinary> i need to mount NFS shares, and i dont want to do it as root on the ubuntu box. is there anything i can do other than sudo?
[03:41] <MutantBC> is there a better mirror site from Software Sources
[03:41] <yeonhoo> how can i separate the icon's image ? is the format .png?
[03:41] <bazhang> fallore: never heard of the 7900; you used the restricted driver manager for that? did you connect the projector after startup?
[03:41] <dude_> hello everyone
[03:41] <yeonhoo> how can i separate the icon's image from icon? is the format .png?
[03:41] <stik> This all this channel is about? people asking ?'s that can be googled? lol
[03:41] <oneforall> any one using that recordmydesktop ? using gtk-recordmydesktop frontend  with wow ?
[03:41] <dude_> can anyone help me troubleshoot mp3 and video codecs?
[03:42] <bazhang> stik well not everyone has the google-fu ;]
[03:42] <MutantBC> coz right now  almost all mirror sites from the  Software Source  are slow in downloading the packages
[03:42] <fallore> bazhang: what do you mean after start up? and it's a nvidia geforce 7900 if that clarifies
[03:42] <bazhang> mutantbc that sometimes happens just be patient
[03:42] <david_> HELP!?! i just instal;led ubuntu and when i try to activate compiz i get The Composite extension is not available
[03:42] <cpk1_> Barko: thats the file you edit
[03:42] <eriqjaffe> Is there a way I can determine if I'm displaying at 16- or 24-bit from the terminal?  My xorg.conf is set to 24, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it's displaying at 16 anyways...
[03:42] <echobinary> is is possible to mount NFS shares on a ubuntu box w/o resorting to the root user account?
[03:43] <bazhang> fallore: the computer may be looking for the projector on startup and your computer monitor may not support that resolution
[03:43] <Barko> cpk1_: I figured. I opened it up in vim and saw nothing wrong. Well, as far as I could tell.
[03:43] <yeonhoo> how can i separate the icon's image from icon? is the format .png?
[03:43] <TaRDy> bazhang, i guess i was just missing mp3 support, now I think it sees most of my music
[03:43] <dude_> is there a way to reinstall codecs in ubuntu?
[03:43] <fallore> bazhang: it's still plugged into the projector. is there a way i can have it start in a safe res? like a safemode boot or something?
[03:43] <dude_> my music sounds garbled
[03:43] <nickrud> eriqjaffe: xdpyinfo | grep 'depth of root'
[03:43] <bazhang> TaRDy: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? where are you trying to import music from?
[03:44] <dude_> and xvid/quicktime vids wont play well in firefox
[03:44] <MutantBC> bazhang: I leave it 24 hrs to let it download but to think of it, when I got back to see the status, ist not even half the percent
[03:44] <cpk1_> Barko: well bash obviously thinks something is wrong with line 47 heh
[03:44] <TaRDy> I basically copied my old XP "my music" folder to ~/Music
[03:44] <eriqjaffe> nickrud:  thanks - my suspicions have been confirmed.
[03:44] <MutantBC> bazhang: Can you imagine 600 B/s
[03:45] <MutantBC> bazhang: Can you imagine 600 B/s for the download speed
[03:45] <bazhang> mutantbc sure you can change the mirrors; not sure what else to tell you--my speeds sometimes max out my dsl and sometimes like the speeds you are getting it varies
[03:45] <david_> HELP!?! i just instal;led ubuntu and when i try to activate compiz i get The Composite extension is not available
[03:45] <mustard5> oneforall: I'm just installing it now to have a look
[03:45] <dude_> david, what kinda video card do you have?
[03:45] <||COSTA||> is there someone here who could help me with my laptop battery? it`s detecting a wrong model by ubuntu
[03:46] <dn4> when I try to print a pdf file with my printer it does not print, any ideas?
[03:46] <hExDj> I am about to format my computer, what's the best way to install dual Ubuntu/Vista
[03:46] <amenado> subsume whats the contents of a clients  /etc/nsswitch.conf  ?
[03:46] <bazhang> hExDj: vista first then ubuntu
[03:46] <mustard5> hExDj: install vista first
[03:46] <dude_> i can see why questions hardly get answered here
[03:46] <david_> dude_, i have a 512mb ati i believe im not sure...but it should work...
[03:46] <hExDj> just need two partitions right?
[03:46] <dude_> too man at once :)
[03:46] <TaRDy> bazhang, thank you for the restricted-extras pointer, and in case you missed my last message I basically copied my old XP "my music" folder to ~/Music
[03:46] <subsume> amenado: hahah. of server?
[03:46] <amenado> subsume whats the contents of a clients  /etc/nsswitch.conf  ?
[03:47] <echobinary> is is possible to mount NFS shares on a ubuntu box w/o resorting to the root account? (via SUDO or SU)
[03:47] <oneforall> mustard5 just weird with wow so far when you move the mouse(glove) it looks fine . But play it back and it has them little squres as the glove moves .
[03:47] <dude_> i think ati has some issues with ubuntu
[03:47] <fallore> bazhang: it's still plugged into the projector. is there a way i can have it start in a safe res? like a safemode boot or something?
[03:47] <bazhang> tardy tell amarok where to look for music and then let it build its db
[03:47] <MutantBC> bazhang: Can you point to a better mirror server?
[03:47] <bazhang> fallore sure start up in safe mode
[03:48] <|Zippo|> somebody syncs a smartphone with evolution?
[03:48] <dude_> david, can you see the desktop without compiz enabled?
[03:48] <bazhang> mutantbc a better mirror? where do you live?
[03:48] <david_> dude_, but still i activated the restricted driver for direct rendering without issues and now i dont even know what this thing is..
[03:48] <mustard5> oneforall: ah ok..I'm having trouble with the download from the repos atm..I'll see if it does the same for me when I work out how to use it
[03:48] <TaRDy> bazhang, it said it was building the db, it just didn't look at the mp3s since it did not support it, however it is working now, thank you
[03:48] <fallore> bazhang: can you tell me how?
[03:48] <Barko> Can anyone else help with my X Server problem.
[03:48] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m4c7e98c4 but this hasn't changed
[03:48] <MutantBC> bazhang: Philippines
[03:48] <dude_> david, u using the latest version of ubuntu?
[03:49] <bazhang> mutantbc try the tw mirrors
[03:49] <dude_> 7.10?
[03:49] <MutantBC> bazhang: I've tried japan, singapore, germany, china
[03:49] <david_> dude_, yes i am..
[03:49] <dude_> but you say the driver works?  How so?
[03:49] <MutantBC> bazhang: ok
[03:49] <dude_> what have you tried it with?
[03:49] <UnknownUniverse> I installed gcc-snapshot but how do I use it?
[03:49] <david_> dude_, i havent tried it with anything i just enabled it and i got no errror or anything...
[03:50] <MutantBC> bazhang: right now im trying the freepark.org which is better even though its slow
[03:50] <MutantBC> bazhang: :D
[03:50] <subsume> How do I reconfigure a package?
[03:50] <dude_> david, check around the ubuntu forums to see if there's another type of driver
[03:50] <bladezor> I know I should be asking this in #eclipse but I seem to be getting no response, I keep getting this error every once in a while in Eclipse, and it seems to be more of an Ubuntu issue. Here's the error: Error launching external scanner info generator (g++ -E -P -v -dD /home/bladezor/workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.cdt.make.core/specs.cpp)  Blade_Concept_Engine Unknown 1205206094000 5833
[03:50] <bladezor> To fix it I have to restart Eclipse and it gets very annoying
[03:50] <bladezor> Because it's inconsistent
[03:50] <dude_> david, I have an nvidia card, and it turns out the driver that came pre installed didn't support 3d acceleration
[03:50] <bazhang> fallore been so long since I rebooted my computer so working from very hazy memory here
[03:51] <dude_> so I couldn't run compiz either
[03:51] <bladezor> I get that error when compiling
[03:51] <david_> dude_, i had that problem on my other machine..
[03:51] <dude_> then I found a different restricted driver w/ 3d acceleration and it worked
[03:51] <mustard5> oneforall: its just encoding the vid atm
[03:51] <macogw> david_: "this thing"?
[03:51] <david_> dude_, apparently the one i have is supposed to be right one...
[03:52] <david_> macogw, ?! im confused...
[03:52] <macogw> david_: try the one from nvidia.com
[03:52] <dude_> david, whats the error message?
[03:52] <macogw> david_: you said you enabled the restricted driver and now you don't even know what this thing is
[03:52] <david_> macogw,  but i have an ati..!?
[03:52] <macogw> david_: oh haha ok ...who said nvidia before?
[03:53] <dude_> macogw, I did
[03:53] <UnknownUniverse> Any developers here?
[03:53] <macogw> david_: so you have the fglrx enabled?
[03:53] <david_> macogw, well yeah cuz whenever i try to enable compiz i get The composite extension is missing and im not sure what that is or how to deal with it..
[03:53] <bazhang> UnknownUniverse: unlikely
[03:53] <david_> macogw, i believe so..
[03:53] <phreck> standard glitch
[03:53] <chai__> hello all, can anyone help me install wolfenstein on 64-bit ubuntu? linux32 shell doesn't seem to be working...
[03:53] <phreck> search ubuntu forums
[03:53] <Sl4y3r> got a question for somebody
[03:53] <mustard5> oneforall: mine is showing the 'glove'
[03:53] <macogw> david_: is your card supposed to use fglrx or the open source one?
[03:53] <reya276> How can I get my HP Laserjet P1006
[03:53] <reya276> to work
[03:53] <phreck> tons of answers
[03:53] <bazhang> reya276: plug it in
[03:53] <dude_> macogw, I simply said I had a similar issue with my nvidia card, but got it fixed when I found a driver w/3d support.  Ie, the one that DIDN'T come with ubuntu :)
[03:53] <macogw> dude_: oh ok
[03:54] <reya276> I did, it detected but it wont print the test page
[03:54] <spacelob6ters> whats the difference between openWRT and dd-WRT ?
[03:54] <Sl4y3r> j/w if anyone knows how to install java on ubuntu
[03:54] <david_> macogw, im not sure im pretty new to this linux thing
[03:54] <macogw> david_: on my roommate's computer, ubuntu offered the restricted driver, but i know from experience that the open source one is right for that card
[03:54] <dude_> sl4y3r...
[03:54] <JDLimbo> my external hard drive is worrying me
[03:54] <bazhang> reya276: that is odd; hp are very well supported in linux
[03:54] <phreck> spacelob6ters, #open-wrt
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> lol, worrying you?
[03:54] <nickrud> Sl4y3r: sudo apt-get install  sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[03:54] <chafe> how can i get a text login with ubuntu... i dont like the xwindows splash screen
[03:54] <macogw> david_: lsmod | grep "ati\|radeon\|fglrx"
[03:54] <dude_> under applications, go to add/remove programs
[03:54] <macogw> david_: what does that say?
[03:54] <dude_> it should be there
[03:54] <ngabriel> anyone know of a command that returns the name of the dvd/cd thats currently mounted on a device?
[03:55] <UnknownUniverse> How do I use the package gcc-snapshot
[03:55] <JDLimbo> I was moving music from it to my mp3 player, and it kept crashing my system every so often
[03:55] <macogw> dude_: take gdm out of the startup
[03:55] <amenado> subsume-> whats the ip address of your server eth1 now?
[03:55] <spacelob6ters> phreck: thanks, but its #openwrt
[03:55] <subsume> 10
[03:55] <subsume> amenado:  ^
[03:55] <reya276> it actually assigned another driver, which is not the correct one
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> JDLimbo: move it to your hard drive, then to the mp3 player
[03:55] <fallore> is there a button i can hold or something that will let me boot into start mode while booting up my box with ubuntu 7.10?
[03:55] <macogw> dude_: just remove the symlinks for gdm in the /etc/rc2.d/ rc3.d/ etc
[03:55] <david_> macogw, give me a sec ill tell u in a moment
[03:55] <JDLimbo> IndyGunFreak, oh I see
[03:55] <macogw> fallore: "start mode"?
[03:55] <chafe> how can i get a text login with ubuntu... i dont like the xwindows splash screen
[03:55] <amenado> subsume-> and you can still ping yahoo.com from the server right?
[03:55] <bazhang> reya276: is the correct driver in there as well?
[03:55] <macogw> chafe: oops read what i said to dude
[03:55] <JDLimbo> can you actually explain why that is better?
[03:55] <macogw> dude_: sorry
[03:55] <dude_> macogw, is gdm editable with a text editor?
[03:56] <fallore> macogw: safe mode sorry
[03:56] <subsume> amenado: oh yes.
[03:56] <reya276> nope
[03:56] <oneforall> mustard5 when you move that glove around and then save the recording. then play it back does it look normal or get a smudged video
[03:56] <macogw> dude_: dont think so
[03:56] <macogw> fallore: you can only boot one OS at a time
[03:56] <fallore> is there a button i can hold or something that will let me boot into safe mode or a mode with a low resolution* while booting up my box with ubuntu 7.10?
[03:56] <nickrud> !gutsysources | Sl4y3r
[03:56] <ubot3> Sl4y3r: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[03:56] <amenado> subsume okay, you can ping a client from the server and client to the server?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> JDLimbo: you were probably pushing the USB ports well past their capacity(mp3 player on a USB port, and external drive on usb port... so however many MB of files you moved, x2)
[03:56] <bazhang> reya276: hang on a sec
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> JDLimbo: copy them to the hard drive, then hard drive to mp3 player, i'm guessing you'll be fine
[03:56] <fallore> macogw: well the problem is i think that it's trying to boot into a resolution that's too high so i'm trying to get it to boot into something lower
[03:56] <reya276> bazhang: nope it is not there I did  a search on google and download this: https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/24216
[03:56] <subsume> amenado: yes
[03:57] <david_> macogw,  i get "cpufreq_conservative     8072  0 "
[03:57] <amenado> subsume  cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:57] <macogw> fallore: sorry you said safe mode so i thought you meant ubuntu and windows safe mode at teh same time
[03:57] <macogw> david_: thats it?
[03:57] <macogw> david_: its not using an ati driver at all then...
[03:57] <fallore> macogw: i figured thats what it would be called or people would know what i was talking about, lol
[03:57] <subsume> amenado: "!"
[03:57] <subsume> amenado: "1"
[03:58] <macogw> david_: can you use the system -> administration -> screens & graphics to pick the right driver?  what card is it exactly, anyway?
[03:58] <amenado> subsume  on server  iptables -vL
[03:58] <david_> macogw, ok and how do i change that?
[03:58] <dude_> macogw, thank you for the suggestions
[03:58] <david_> macogw,  im not sure how do i find out?
[03:58] <dude_> macogw, I'll take a look into those files
[03:58] <macogw> dude_: that was for chafe, not you
[03:58] <macogw> dude_: i got the lines messed up as the channel moved
[03:58] <bazhang> http://www.stchman.com/foo2zjs.html reya276 check this
[03:58] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m5f021fdf
[03:58] <dude_> ohhh
[03:58] <dude_> haha
[03:59] <amenado> subsume  on server  iptables -t nat -vL
[03:59] <dude_> well, are codecs reinstallable?
[03:59] <macogw> david_: type "lspci" in the terminal and paste the output on pastebin.ca
[03:59] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m65efb0e3
[04:00] <dude_> I think my music and video codecs are bad
[04:00] <reya276> bazhang: ok let me see, hope this helps
[04:00] <bazhang> reya276: no problem
[04:00] <david_> macogw,  it is a Nvidia Radeon X1600
[04:00] <macogw> david_: you said it was an ati card
[04:00] <JDLimbo> IndyGunFreak, thanks for the tip
[04:00] <macogw> david_: wait what?
[04:00] <macogw> david_: ati makes radeon
[04:01] <david_> macogw,  i thought it was lol...
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> JDLimbo: np
[04:01] <macogw> david_: paste the output of lspci in pastebin.ca
[04:01] <dude_> nvidia what now?!
[04:01] <macogw> david_: i need to see this
[04:01] <david_> macogw,  haha sorry ATI radeon x1600
[04:01] <bazhang> dude_: ubuntu-restricted-extras are bad? likely not
[04:01] <macogw> david_: ok makes more sense...
[04:01] <david_> macogw,  that word was in my mind and i just typed it by mistake..
[04:01] <david_> sorry
[04:01] <amenado> subsume  it looks okay...now from a client can you ping   66.150.243.5 ?
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> jld
[04:01] <dude_> bazhang, i think so
[04:02] <macogw> david_: ok you installed the restricted driver like it asked you to, right?
[04:02] <dude_> bazhang, they worked ok till I updated some codecs and now some songs sound garbled and some vids wont play in firefox
[04:02] <david_> macogw,  yes....how do i paste the output of lspci to pastebin.ca?
[04:02] <bazhang> dude_: updated some codecs? how did you do that?
[04:02] <amenado> subsume  now from a client can you ping   66.150.253.241  ?
[04:02] <subsume> amenado: no to the first
[04:02] <reya276> bazhang: there is a an HPLIP 2.8 should I install this instead
[04:03] <macogw> david_: well you know the right name for the card now, so dont bother
[04:03] <david_> macogw,  in the screens and graphics it says its using the fglrx driver...
[04:03] <bazhang> reya276: does the hplip cover that printer? ifso go with the hplip
[04:03] <macogw> david_: ok...odd that lsmod didnt show it... in syanptic, make sure xserver-xgl is installed
[04:03] <subsume> amenado: no
[04:03] <reya276> yes it says it does
[04:03] <bazhang> reya276: then try it out
[04:03] <amenado> subsume->  can you even ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[04:03] <david_> macogw, ok give me a sec
[04:04] <reya276> but the issue is that I don't know how to install it, it's tar file
[04:04] <amenado> subsume->  from a client..
[04:04] <subsume> amenado: no
[04:04] <dude_> bazhang, when I tried to play some xvid files a while ago it told me something about codecs being illegal in ubuntu but led me to a web address where I can get codecs
[04:04] <bazhang> dude_: did you use some third party stuff to 'update' your codecs? what was it?
[04:04] <dude_> bazhang, yes I think so
[04:04] <subsume> amenado: from server = yes
[04:04] <bazhang> dude_: what was the website
[04:04] <macogw> dude_: ubuntu-restricted-extras is the package for codecs
[04:04] <dude_> bazhang, I don't recall
[04:04] <farruinn> I've installed firefox-sage but the extension isn't showing up in Firefox. Any ideas?
[04:04] <david_> macogw, that mightve been the problem cuz it wasnt installed
[04:05] <macogw> dude_: medibuntu is the repo for dvd decryptors
[04:05] <bazhang> dude_: then no way to help you
[04:05] <amenado> subsume-> can you repaste  the clients  ifconfig; route -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf again ?
[04:05] <macogw> david_: that's what you need to get composite for compiz
[04:05] <reya276> bazhang: take a look, http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=575089
[04:05] <Spunky> Hey guys i'm having some modem trouble. I wanna setup my comcast modem but when i do the pppoeconf it always gives me an error, and we don't have a modem disk, so is there any way i could set it up and delete the qwest modem setup?
[04:05] <david_> macogw, i hope that solved it then..
[04:05] <TMH_> hi. I'm upgrading from feisty to gutsy, and i clicked on the "new version available: 7.10" button on the dialogue that follows the little orange icon in the tray.
[04:06] <macogw> david_: might be a bit more to do... you can try running "compiz --replace" from a terminal
[04:06] <darkcrab> ok tmh
[04:06] <TMH_> the problem is that the distribution upgrade has been stalled for about 5 hours now. have i bricked my laptop?
[04:06] <david_> macogw, it still gives me that error..
[04:06] <dude_> bazhang, is there a way to remove these restricted extras?  Movie player just brought up a link when I tried to play the vids and so I installed the codecs it said would let me play them
[04:06] <macogw> david_: if it doesnt work or is broken, hit ctrl+C to end it and it should go back to the normal metacity. if it doesn't "metacity --replace" takes it to normal
[04:06] <macogw> david_: ok then take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4486167 there
[04:06] <farruinn> TMH_: Is it still downloading or did it hang while installing packages?
[04:06] <bazhang> dude_: from what website
[04:06] <subsume> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m3edb500e
[04:07] <TMH_> farruinn: it's hung while installing packages.
[04:07] <david_> macogw,  ok ok give me a sec let me see if this works..
[04:07] <macogw> david_: thats what im using as a reference since i dont have experience with that many video cards
[04:07] <TMH_> the terminal output just says "Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[04:07] <TMH_> Preconfiguring packages ...
[04:07] <TMH_> "
[04:07] <dude_> bazhang, i don't remember it was a very long time ago and I'm just trying to fix it today
[04:07] <david_> macogw, it says checking for Xgl: not present and No whitelisted driver found
[04:07] <darkcrab> are you on wireless downloading it tmh?
[04:07] <bazhang> dude_: then no idea how to help you sorry
[04:07] <TMH_> there is no CPU activity on the process
[04:07] <TMH_> darkcrab: i am, yes
[04:07] <subsume> amenado: changing another machine's /etc/resolve.conf to 192.168.1.1 gives client WAN access (!)
[04:07] <macogw> david_: oh you have to restart X before the xgl takes effect
[04:08] <TMH_> but it's finished downloading it
[04:08] <macogw> david_: ctrl + alt + backspace
[04:08] <dude_> bazhang, thank you for your time
[04:08] <farruinn> TMH_: ok, I would kill the thing then run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from the command line
[04:08] <macogw> david_: and then you'll have to log in again
[04:08] <darkcrab> FYI, you should always switch to ethernet before doing a download like that.
[04:08] <amenado> subsume no wonder, we have changed the server to .10 right? restarted its dhcp server right?  we need now for the client to release and reacquire and ip address
[04:08] <TMH_> so there shouldn't be a problem, right?
[04:08] <reya276> bazhang: how can I change the permission for this (hplip-2.8.2.run) to run, I tried doing sudo chmod x hplip-2.8.2.run
[04:08] <TMH_> darkcrab: surely the wireless drivers are stable enough to pull down a few gigabytes? i've done it before with no problems.
[04:08] <david_> macogw,  ok ill be back then...see you soon thanks for all this so far..
[04:08] <TMH_> but anyway that isn't the issue here
[04:08] <subsume> amenado: you sure? they still load /home drive
[04:08] <darkcrab> it isnt about drivers, its just a direct connection is faster tmh
[04:09] <macogw> prince_jammys: you around?
[04:09] <prince_jammys> yeah
[04:09] <amenado> subsume thats should fall trhough once the client reacquires.. we need to check the same ifconfig; route -n; resolv.conf after client acquires an ip address
[04:09] <macogw> TMH_: wow id hate to try to download a dist upgrade over wifi...thatd take ages....
[04:09] <darkcrab> also, you need to adjust the server that your downloading from in synaptic too TMH
[04:09] <prince_jammys> macogw: what's up?
[04:09] <subsume> amenado: ok, pasting....
[04:09] <dn4_> does anyone know why when I get to the login screen and it boots up the screen automatically shuts off ?
[04:09] <macogw> prince_jammys: he got it installed and then left when he was waiting for the 200+ updates to install
[04:10] <darkcrab> Places like MIT are alot more reliable than say the standard ubuntu server
[04:10] <TMH_> i've finished downloading so can i take it that my using wireless drivers wasn't a problem
[04:10] <prince_jammys> macogw: very good
[04:10] <TaRDy> "Internal error : failed to initialize HAL!"...any1 know what I broke?
[04:10] <TMH_> also my connection is only 2mbit, so i would imagine that the connection would be the bottleneck and not the speed of my wireless card
[04:10] <macogw> TMH_: wasnt a reference to drivers just to the fact that wireless is slow.  but has it been stuck configureing the same package the whole time?
[04:11] <TMH_> no. it is stuck on "preconfiguring packages"
[04:11] <subsume> amenado: going through the ubuntu GUI doesn't do the trick.
[04:11] <morgan> I don't know if I have gone to the right place or not but I am looking for someone to give me some kind of technical support.  Can anyone help me please?
[04:11] <dn4> Why would my graphics card not work in the gui when I tried to login?
[04:11] <subsume> amenado: here comes pastes
[04:11] <muzikjock58> anyone have problems with xsane in ubuntu?
[04:11] <macogw> morgan: ask your question. someone will probably answer.
[04:11] <darkcrab> TMH that has nothing to do with downloading I believe.
[04:11] <TaRDy> morgan, try being a little more specific and perhaps some1 may be of assistance
[04:11] <muzikjock58> cant scan
[04:11] <redips1> Hello all
[04:11] <reya276> bazhang: never mind I got it going
[04:11] <TMH_> yeah. i shall kill the distribution upgrade process and start a new one
[04:11] <morgan> ok
[04:11] <reya276> bazhang:  thanks
[04:11] <macogw> dn4: because the boot screen isnt done using your graphics card for real
[04:11] <bazhang> reya276: the printer works now?
[04:12] <darkcrab> TMH, can you open the terminal window?
[04:12] <macogw> dn4: its done using whats called "framebuffer" meaning it draws right to the screen and ignores how your graphics card actually works
[04:12] <darkcrab> and see if it says anything?
[04:12] <reya276> bazhang:  don't know yet, I'm installing the drivers now
[04:12] <darkcrab> there is a little arrow that allows you to expand it
[04:12] <TMH_> yes. it was stuck on "preconfiguring packages"
[04:12] <bazhang> reya276: okay good luck
[04:12] <cpk1_> TMH_: things can stop working if you do that =P.  I remember I stopped the dist upgrade process once and couldnt use ls among other things
[04:12] <TMH_> oh excellent
[04:12] <darkcrab> It should say more than that in the terminal window TMH
[04:12] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1417
[04:13] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1418
[04:13] <dn4> macogw: well my screen doesn't show up with anything
[04:13] <macogw> cpk1_: wouldnt it be ok for him to exit it and then do a dpkg -i * in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[04:13] <darkcrab> Can you pastebin what it says in the terminal TMH?
[04:13] <morgan> I am trying to get full access to another hard drive on my computer.  It is telling me drive D is read only and I want to be able to read, write and delete.  I figured out how to get into the administrator but couldn't fix it.
[04:13] <dn4> macogw: it did once and now when I reboot and log in it just goes black any ideas?
[04:13] <TMH_> i have closed the terminal. and i pasted it above.
[04:13] <dude_> bazhang, i don't know if this will help but I can describe a symptom that might lead to a clue of what I did wrong in the past
[04:13] <TMH_> darkcrab: well it didn't, and it was hung for 5 hours
[04:13] <TMH_> i'm assuming that i haven't bricked my laptop and i'm running dist-upgrade again
[04:13] <macogw> dn4: not setup right :P what graphics card do you have? exact model, if you can
[04:13] <TMH_> failing that i guess it's reinstall time
[04:14] <dn4> macogw: 3dfx Voodoo 3
[04:14] <darkcrab> TMH, either you dont know what I mean by terminal or you dont understand.
[04:14] <subsume> amenado: those are from working client
[04:14] <david_> macogw, thanks man a lot....it works now...
[04:14] <cpk1_> macogw: I cant remember what I did, I just remember the shock of ls not being found and then I fixed it so obviously wasnt too bad, then again I have /home on seperate hdd so I can ride through things like that
[04:14] <redips1> 3dfx..Pretty old card.
[04:14] <TaRDy> what is the "super" key?
[04:14] <amenado> subsume okay so some clients are now working?
[04:14] <bazhang> TaRDy: windows
[04:14] <macogw> david_: no prob.  you should get compizconfig-settings-manager so you have access to all of compiz's fun
[04:14] <dude_> bazhang, you know how you can mouse-over an mp3 to preview it?  all my songs sound fine that way but when I use rhythmbox some songs sound garbled.  The same songs sound garbled in vlc too.
[04:14] <TaRDy> thank you bazhang
[04:14] <TMH_> darkcrab: i'm assuming you meant the terminal attached to the bottom of the distribution upgrade window
[04:14] <macogw> TaRDy: windows, apple, sun, tux, whatever special key you have
[04:14] <darkcrab> yes that is what i meant
[04:14] <subsume> amenado: i got a client working when i changed resolv.conf to 192.168.1.1
[04:15] <subsume> amenado: let me restart it to make sure changes stick
[04:15] <spacelob3ters> just had 3 power surges, my server isn't booting anymore, stuck on "Verifying DMI Pool Data" any ides?
[04:15] <darkcrab> I need to know the last line yes, but I also need to know what happened BEFORE that.
[04:15] <amenado> subsume-> okay
[04:15] <david_> macogw, i already did but i didnt know about the xserver-xgl thing...thanks a lot..
[04:15] <KaV> is there any way to send window from 0.0 to 0.1 ??? without using xinerama ?
[04:15] <unique> im a newbie n i need help am i in the right place?
[04:15] <KaV> i heard about an application that is using pseudo screen to do it.. but is really old and odd
[04:15] <farruinn> TMH_: if it was just at the preconfiguring stage you're probably safe
[04:15] <dn4> I basically changed the screen resolution and now it does not boot up right
[04:15] <dn4> time to reboot brb
[04:15] <morgan> can anyone help?
[04:15] <CuriousKat> i installed ndiswrapper via add/remove software, now when i try to use it in terminal it says it's not installed
[04:15] <bazhang> dude_: sounds like you used AUTOMATIX which is a really really BAD idea and just not needed
[04:15]  * david_ loves ubuntu for all the good support and help i get when i need them...
[04:15] <macogw> david_: kk
[04:15] <redips1> spacelob3ters canyou get into the BIOS?
[04:15] <TMH_> farruinn: yeah that was what i had hoped
[04:15] <spacelob3ters> redips1: yes
[04:16] <subsume> amenado: any clue what mechanism all these clients updated with?
[04:16] <dude_> bazhang, I have used automatix actually :(
[04:16] <redips1> Try resetting everything in the bios and reboot.
[04:16] <unique> i have a creative xfi how do i go about installing the drivers?
[04:16] <darkcrab> if I am not mistaken Kat I believe ndiswrapper has a lot of dependencies.
[04:16] <unique> i downloaded the linux drivers
[04:16] <bazhang> dude_: please paste your sources.list to pastebin; if you used automatix you may as well just reinstall
[04:16] <CuriousKat> i installed ndiswrapper via add/remove software, now when i try to use it in terminal it says it's not installed
[04:16] <macogw> !automatix | dude_
[04:16] <ubot3> dude_: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:17] <unique> im fluent in windows
[04:17] <macogw> dude_: check the link for why we dont recommend it
[04:17] <subsume> how can I totally remove LTSP?
[04:17] <zero88> does pygtk come with ubuntu, if so how do i start it?
[04:17] <macogw> unique: windows knowledge isnt the least bit helpful here
[04:17] <darkcrab> the only way I was able to get ndiswrapper to work for me was to use the debian packages.
[04:17] <subsume> apt-get remove still keeps /etc/ltsp/
[04:17] <morgan> Can anyone please tell me how do I read or write onto a different hard drive?
[04:17] <TaRDy> morgan, i may be able to help you, I am not very good at this but I know a little bit
[04:17] <macogw> subsume: remove doesnt delete config. you need purge
[04:17] <morgan> tardy:  thanks
[04:17] <morgan> all help is good help
[04:17] <redips1> Try making the new driver a usb..
[04:18] <macogw> subsume: either "sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>" or "sudo aptitude purge <package>"
[04:18] <dude_> thank you very much for the links everybody
[04:18] <unique> ok well ill forget what i know about windows but i have very low knowledge of linux
[04:18] <darkcrab> is there an autopurge command or is it just autoremove?
[04:18] <macogw> unique: it doesnt work on its own?  most drivers are built into the kernel
[04:18] <dude_> bazhong, "paste your sources.list to pastebin" what do you mean?  Is that a command?
[04:19] <dude_> for the terminal?
[04:19] <unique> what do i do with the xfi drivers.. there in a tar.gz
[04:19] <unique> no it dosent..
[04:19] <amenado> subsume-> has it work ?
[04:19] <NeT_DeMoN_> dude_: you mean pastebin?
[04:19] <TaRDy> morgan, so you have a second HDD that you are trying to access?
[04:19] <redips1> Good Night all
[04:19] <dude_> net_demon, yes sir
[04:19] <morgan> yes
[04:19] <macogw> dude_: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file
[04:19] <NeT_DeMoN_> dude_: be right back :)
[04:19] <muzikjock58> has anyone been able to fix a problem with xsane crashing on start?
[04:19] <macogw> unique: double click to untar it, and there should be a readme
[04:19] <bazhang> dude_: you admitted to using AUTOMATIX; there really is no option but to reinstall
[04:19] <amenado> subsume-> has it work after a restart of a client?
[04:19] <dude_> ok
[04:19] <farruinn> Has anyone else installed the firefox-sage package on Gutsy? I did, but the extension doesn't show up in firefox.
[04:19] <muzikjock58> print works great, no scan
[04:20] <NeT_DeMoN_> dude_: http://pastebin.ca/ copy, paste, then post
[04:20] <subsume> http://pastebin.com/m544b5b6d any clue what this is about? I just removed and installed ltsp
[04:20] <dude_> bazhang, reinstall ubuntu entirely?! :(
[04:20] <subsume> amenado: slow restart on clients =(
[04:20] <TaRDy> morgan, is it seen by your ubuntu?  (/media/??)
[04:20] <kyu_flux> I installed vmware (and am using it fine) - everytime I try to run apt-get it tries to fix some dependencies for vmware-server
[04:20] <morgan> TaRDy if I click on your name on the left will we have a private chat?
[04:20] <kyu_flux> any suggestions on how to fix?
[04:21] <TaRDy> correct morgan
[04:21] <morgan> TaRDy yes, read only
[04:21] <unique> ok it says 1) You must have the fully configured source for the Linux kernel and
[04:21] <unique>    ALSA which you
[04:21] <unique>  want to use for this device driver. Partial installed
[04:21] <unique>    kernels (e.g. From distribution makers) may be unusable for this
[04:21] <unique>    action.
[04:21] <FloodBot2> unique: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <unique> is that right?
[04:21] <macogw> dude_: yes, automatix breaks chunks of the system in ways that would take like 5 days to repair line by line
[04:21] <amenado> subsume-> nfs can be slow
[04:21] <macogw> unique: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:21] <subsume> amenado: =( the resolv.conf is back to example.com (!)
[04:21] <macogw> unique: that's the first step to compiling drivers
[04:21] <tleuser> 1223
[04:21] <tleuser> 222
[04:21] <tleuser> 222
[04:21] <tleuser> 6663125
[04:21] <dude_> macogw, oh no!  That's terrible.  I shouldn't have listened to lifehacker.com :(
[04:21] <bazhang> tleuser: stop
[04:22] <amenado> subsume i have not seen your latest contents of that dhcp server
[04:22] <subsume> amenado: nothing has changed since
[04:23] <macogw> dude_: yeah...i just went and corrected Wired.com's ubuntu howto to say to only use automatix if you are cool with having big chunks of broken, borked permissions, and the inability to upgrade to the new versiob
[04:23] <amenado> subsume can you repaste it just for my reference
[04:23] <subsume> sure
[04:23] <macogw> unique: which card is it exactly?
[04:24] <macogw> unique: creative x-fi, which?
[04:24] <unique> extreme gamer
[04:24] <dude_> macogw, ohh man so that's the reason why my update to 7.10 fails.  I'm still using 7.04 :(
[04:25] <unique> the read me says somthing about alsa
[04:25] <gan> where is the bootsplash image is located in ubuntu
[04:25] <macogw> dude_: yeah we started saying to stay away from automatix when someone noticed the correlation between busted upgrades and use of automatix
[04:25] <macogw> gan: wanna change it? install startup manager
[04:26] <macogw> gan: you can get bootsplashes from gnome-look.org
[04:26] <flowOver> i'm using dual monitors with nvidia's twinview.  sometimes the secondary will decide to clone the primary display.  it is stranger that the mouse still interacts with the display as the extended desktop, though will hold no interaction with the window's displayed.  it will affect the windows that are still on the secondary
[04:27] <gan> splash image means "after selecting the partition the image with status bar is coming that i want to change
[04:27] <dude_> wow you guys are very resourceful thank you so much
[04:27] <gan> macogw, splash image means "after selecting the partition the image with status bar is coming that i want to change
[04:27] <TaRDy> flowOver, are you using a single or two graphics cards?
[04:28] <macogw> unique: well that's a known troublesome card...ok all creative wireles is known to be kinda crap on linux...im not sure how to do it other than follow the directions.  you probably need to install linux-headers for one thing
[04:28] <macogw> gan: yes
[04:28] <flowOver> single
[04:28] <TaRDy> oh, I have experience similar using two
[04:28] <macogw> gan: startup-manager lets you pick what goes on the background of grub and at that part
[04:28] <flowOver> how did you fix that?
[04:28] <dude_> ok i went to pastebin
[04:28] <MutantBC> who's familiar with ubuntu mobile?
[04:29] <dude_> this is what sources.list shows
[04:29] <subsume> amenado: I think that ltsp is overwriting my clients /etc/resolv.conf
[04:29] <gan> macogw, i my system the image with status bar is not coming
[04:29] <dude_> http://pastebin.ca/937735
[04:29] <subsume> check out this
[04:29] <zero> can somebody tell me a program for sending free sms?
[04:29] <TaRDy> experienced*,  flowOver , I used the System->Administartion->Screens and Graphics to set it up
[04:29] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1419
[04:29] <TaRDy> before I believe it came up after using nvidia-settings
[04:29] <amenado> subsume with what? i still like to see the dhcp server config
[04:29] <CuriousKat> anyone get 'No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 217.'  when installing indiswrapper
[04:29] <macogw> unique: if you wouldnt mind, could you try booting from a live cd of the development version and seeing if it works there?  there was a sound overhaul this release, so i'm curious.  if it doesn't, you can file a bug against it to try to get it fixed by release.  i'm not recommending installing it though.  it's not stable enough for beginners to use yet.
[04:29] <gan> macogw, in my system the image with status bar is not coming
[04:29] <TaRDy> I am not too sure though, it is still a problem I run into while fooling around with it myself
[04:29] <subsume> amenado: with that.
[04:30] <unique> ok well the read me says use ./install would that be used?
[04:30] <macogw> gan: oh.... umm idk
[04:30] <macogw> unique: yes
[04:30] <macogw> unique: "sudo ./install"
[04:30] <MutantBC> who's familiar with ubuntu mobile?
[04:30] <flowOver> ahh well mine is setup.  it just does this from time to time.  a reboot usually fixes it.
[04:30] <amenado> subsume what you just pasted is the dhcp config..not a  /etc/resolv.conf of a client
[04:30] <macogw> unique: you have to be in the directory where it is
[04:30] <zero> can somebody please tell me a program for a free sms.. PM me..
[04:30] <gan> macogw, it is booting after one minute it is going to login window
[04:30] <macogw> unique: but you need to have the compilers (build-essential) and header files (linux-headers) installed first
[04:31] <dude_> macogw, bazhang, here is the link to my pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/937735
[04:31] <zero> need a help here bout sms on linux.. PM me
[04:31] <gan> macogw, i did change in my men.lst but it is correct or not , im not getting
[04:31] <flowOver> i used nvidia-settings to set it up.  i have a 7600gt
[04:31] <unique> ok so extract it to a dir n poin tthe termal to the dir n run sudo ./install
[04:31] <amenado> subsume are you with me?
[04:31] <macogw> zero: ask in the channel. and you can send SMS's from AIM using pidgin
[04:31] <subsume> amenado: yes. sorry.
[04:31] <macogw> gan: i dont think that's where it goes
[04:31] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1420
[04:32] <macogw> unique: after you have the stuff needed to be able to run it, yes
[04:32] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1422
[04:32] <unique> ok and the stuff needed would be?
[04:33] <subsume> amenado: anything else?
[04:33] <amenado> subsume you can change the option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;  in the dhcp server to 192.168.1.1
[04:33] <macogw> unique: build-essential and linux-headers, as ive said 3 times
[04:33] <subsume> amenado: my thoughts exactly =) I am purging ltsp completely and redoing right now. hold please
[04:33] <dude_> well, looks like the best thing to do is re-format
[04:33] <unique> ok ill brb
[04:33] <amenado> subsume-> then restart your dhcp server, and let your client release and reaquire an ip address
[04:33] <dude_> thanks for the info you guys, I really appreciate it
[04:34] <gan> macogw, http://pastebin.com/m6018a5a3 plz refer this page
[04:34] <macogw> dude_: in future, use ubuntu-restricted-extras instead of automatix
[04:34] <dude_> macogw: I will, thank you
[04:35] <morgan> i think i lost my guide. can anyone help me with making an additional heard drive reed and wright
[04:35] <macogw> gan: uhh...that's just a menu.lst i'm pretty sure the bootsplash doesnt go in there
[04:35] <eshear> how can I tell if installing postgresql 8.3 will hose postgresql 8.2? ... getting 8.3 from gutsy backports, 8.2 from gutsy...?
[04:35] <tsrchristopher> Has anyone seen this before? *error* i915_dispatch_cmdbuffer failed
[04:36] <macogw> eshear: use -s in the apt-get line
[04:36] <gan> macogw, waht & whare to edit in order to get the bootsplash
[04:36] <macogw> eshear: it'll simulate it..pretend to do it, but not really so you can see what happens
[04:36] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:36] <unique> do i have to enter repository to get the build-essential and linux-headers?
[04:36] <macogw> gan: use the startup-manager, like i suggested before. it's a nice little gui tool for setitng it up
[04:36] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:37] <macogw> unique: you can get them from synaptic (system -> administration -> synaptic)
[04:37] <eshear> it looks like it upgrades postgresql-client-common
[04:37] <subsume> amenado: redid dhcp server and such and refreshed but no dice. restarting client
[04:37] <eshear> which I presume is used by 8.2...how do I know if upgrading that will break anything?
[04:37] <eshear> (and how could I roll back?)
[04:37] <BIOSboiler_> hi
[04:37] <BIOSboiler_> im running postfix
[04:37] <morgan> need help with a heard drive issue can anyone help
[04:38] <BIOSboiler_> is anyone else?
[04:38] <berbsd> is anybody having luck with evolution and ldap addressbooks?
[04:38] <amenado> subsume you mean modified that "option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;" line?
[04:38] <subsume> amenado: yes
[04:38] <unique> ty
[04:38] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:38] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:38] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:39] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:39] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:39] <zero> can somebody help me bout a free sms on linux.. PM me.. thanx!
[04:39] <macogw> zero: stop spamming!
[04:39] <amenado> subsume you restarted dhcp server and then the ltsp server itself?
[04:39] <zero> sory
[04:39] <macogw> zero: i already told you, you can send SMS's from Pidgin using an AIM account
[04:39] <subsume> amenado: client, not server
[04:39] <macogw> zero: and yes, it's fre
[04:39] <zero> ok.. sory i havnt seen ur msgs
[04:39] <BIOSboiler_> can i use ubuntu as a dhcp server?
[04:39] <zero> thank you so much
[04:39] <amenado> subsume-> these things are part of the ltsp server yes?
[04:40] <Luderacer> got  a quick question, i tried to do dual boot with fedora and ubuntu, but when i try to install fedora it says not enough space in boot
[04:40] <flowOver> i fixed my twinview glitch out by c+a+f*
[04:40] <amenado> Luderacer-> how big is your /boot partition?
[04:40] <morgan> can any one help with a heard drive problem?
[04:40] <Luderacer> mm sec
[04:41] <unique> what version of the linux-headers do i need
[04:41] <zero> can an AIM send sms internationally?
[04:41] <amenado> zero yes, pay AT & T
[04:41] <macogw> unique: there should be one just called linux-headers that should pull in whatever matches your current version
[04:41] <morgan> my heard drive is reed only
[04:41] <macogw> zero: as in not-USA? dont think so, but maybe...
[04:41] <zero> yes
[04:42] <zero> my loc is philippines
[04:42] <subsume> amenado: I reinstalled ltsp server
[04:42] <macogw> zero: i send SMSs in the US with +13335557777 so the +1 means USA
[04:42] <bazhang> zero then no
[04:42] <zero> is there any other way?
[04:42] <amenado> zero i told you, pay AT&T
[04:42] <bazhang> zero this is not an #ubuntu question
[04:42] <quaal> how do i remove the drive safety free space again
[04:42] <zero> we dont have at&t here
[04:42] <zero> my location is Philippines
[04:42] <macogw> zero: well pay whomever owns your phones
[04:43] <Luderacer> can u tell me how to check please amenado ?
[04:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic zero
[04:43] <amenado> Luderacer-> df -h
[04:43] <genuser> does anybody know where firefox is located in ubuntu preinstalled preassembled alternate/live cd?
[04:43] <zero> sorry... just need a program to send sms.. badly needed
[04:43] <subsume> amenado: hmpf. no clue....
[04:43] <macogw> zero: i thought thats what cell phones were for
[04:43] <Micko113> guys, I have dedicated FC8 server, how should I set hostname ie. server.mymaindomain.com or just mydomain.com ?
[04:44] <genuser> i've installed fluxbox and am trying to link it to the dir that has firefox.
[04:44] <morgan> can anyone help me change my reed only setting for my D-drive
[04:44] <zero> am out of load
[04:44] <bazhang> Micko113: what is FC8?
[04:44] <BIOSboiler_> how do i install flash from cmd line?
[04:44] <macogw> Micko113: you can set both
[04:44] <Micko113> fedora core 8
[04:44] <macogw> Micko113: oh yeah there's no FC8, just F8
[04:44] <macogw> Micko113: 6 was the last "core"
[04:44] <PriceChild> Micko113: this is ubuntu support
[04:44] <Luderacer> no boot listed? amenado ?
[04:44] <bazhang> #fedora
[04:44] <macogw> morgan: D drive?
[04:44] <zero> thanx for the help anyway..
[04:44] <unique> sorry if in annoying but it tells me to insert the cd... is there anyway i can get them off the net....?
[04:45] <macogw> morgan: from what i remember of windows, that's the CD drive....
[04:45] <BIOSboiler_> how do i install flash from cmd line?\
[04:45] <Micko113> I know that its ubuntu but its kinda general ? regardles of distro
[04:45] <bazhang> unique: just disable cd in synaptic as software source
[04:45] <BIOSboiler_> how do i install flash from cmd line?, how do i get you tube to work?
[04:45] <macogw> Micko113: you can set both
[04:45] <morgan> no its my second heard drive
[04:45] <amenado> subsume-> yes,
[04:45] <PriceChild> unique: system > admin > software sources, uncheck the cd at the bottom
[04:45] <genuser> does anybody know where firefox is located in ubuntu preinstalled preassembled alternate/live cd?
[04:45] <macogw> morgan: well it's your sdb drive then
[04:45] <PriceChild> genuser: lots of places
[04:45] <macogw> morgan: only one partition on it, right? so that partition would be sdb1
[04:45] <genuser> i've installed fluxbox and am trying to link it to the dir that has firefox.
[04:46] <genuser> hm
[04:46] <Luderacer> amenado,  may i pm you the results?
[04:46] <Micko113> Thanks, I'll set it as mymaindomain.com just to avoid confusion
[04:46] <PriceChild> genuser: binaries go in one place, shared libraries another, documentatino another etc.
[04:46] <amenado> morgan i must ask...hard drive..lest you are mocking it.
[04:46] <morgan> macogw im not sure
[04:46] <macogw> morgan: did you split the drive into a bunch of parts?
[04:46] <genuser> i just need the binaries to boot up my firefox on fluxbox.
[04:46] <amenado> Luderacer-> for /boot  should only be one line.paste it here
[04:46] <PriceChild> genuser: /usr/bin
[04:46] <berbsd> is anyone using ldap address book with evolution?
[04:46] <morgan> bad speller sory
[04:46] <macogw> morgan: if it only shows as one drive on windows, then it should be only one partition
[04:47] <macogw> morgan: are you trying to make it auto-mount in ubuntu when you boot?
[04:47] <Luderacer> luderacer@luderacer:/$ df -h
[04:47] <Luderacer> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:47] <Luderacer> /dev/sda1              70G   20G   47G  29% /
[04:47] <Luderacer> varrun                1.5G  112K  1.5G   1% /var/run
[04:47] <Luderacer> varlock               1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /var/lock
[04:47] <Luderacer> udev                  1.5G   72K  1.5G   1% /dev
[04:47] <FloodBot2> Luderacer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <macogw> Luderacer: stop
[04:47] <morgan> my main drive is split into ubuntu and windows my d drive is one drive
[04:47] <amenado> Luderacer-> i didnt ask you for the rest, i only asked for /boot
[04:47] <Luderacer> there is none
[04:47] <Luderacer> i told ya that ;)
[04:48] <morgan> I am trying to be able to read, write and delete my secondary hard drive
[04:48] <Luderacer> sorry about that
[04:48] <amenado> Luderacer-> i did not read it, you know why? you dont have my nick in front
[04:48] <Luderacer> lol sorry m8
[04:48] <amenado> !who | Luderacer
[04:48] <ubot3> Luderacer: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:48] <macogw> morgan: ok in linux, the first drive is sda and its partitions are sda1, sda2, sda3, etc. your second drive is sdb, and its partitions would be sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, etc. your setup has sda1, sda2, and sdb1, from what you've said
[04:48] <macogw> morgan: and it's a windows-y drive, right?
[04:48] <Luderacer> should be sleeping
[04:49] <macogw> morgan: is it always in your computer or is it an external drive that you plug in sometimes?
[04:49] <genuser> thanks PriceChild
[04:49] <morgan> macogw it is in my computer
[04:49] <macogw> morgan: ok run "gksu gedit /etc/fstab" in a terminal
[04:49] <morgan> what do you mean by terminal?
[04:50] <macogw> morgan: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:50] <macogw> morgan: what version of ubuntu are you using, by the way?
[04:50] <amenado> Luderacer-> your /  which includes /boot  is huge, so it should not complain being full
[04:50] <morgan> macogw: thanks that will fix the problem?
[04:50] <Agent_bob> timidity error; /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found \n Couldn't open output device  ???
[04:50] <morgan> macogw: ce
[04:50] <macogw> morgan: no, we have to edit a configuration file
[04:50] <morgan> macogw: just downloaded it.
[04:50] <Agent_bob> what provides /usr/bin/esd ?
[04:50] <macogw> morgan: gutsy?
[04:50] <Luderacer> amenado,  it did ;) said it couldnt install into /boot
[04:51] <macogw> morgan: 7.10/gutsy or 6.06/dapper/lts?
[04:51] <morgan> how do i find out?
[04:51] <amenado> Luderacer-> how big is the /boot you are installing fedora on?
[04:51] <macogw> morgan: if you're not sure, just look at the output of typing "lsb_release -a" in a terminal
[04:51] <subsume> amenado: I can't retrace my steps to get the client working
[04:51] <morgan> macogw can we start a private chat?  how do we do that?
[04:51] <macogw> Luderacer: if you have like 10 fedora kernels just sitting around, uninstall some old ones to make room
[04:52] <macogw> morgan: only if you're registered on the channel
[04:52] <macogw> morgan: unregistered users cant send PMs
[04:52] <amenado> subsume  you have to tell me, again the ifconfig ; route -n ;  resolv.conf  of your client
[04:52] <morgan> macogw I am loosing the plot with all the other people replying
[04:52] <macogw> morgan: umm do you have google talk or AIM?
[04:52] <Luderacer> macogw,  that may of been me trying to install fedora right now
[04:52] <subsume> amenado: I gave you the successful one already.
[04:52] <macogw> Luderacer: oh wait which do you have first?  does the one that was there first have a bunch of old kernels? if so, remove the old kernels so you have room in /boot. otherwise, make /boot bigger
[04:52] <morgan> ekiga
[04:53] <amenado> subsume-> then do the same for the non successful one
[04:53] <macogw> morgan: er..do you use pidgin at all?
[04:53] <morgan> or msn
[04:53] <murlidhar> hey macogw and morgan it is easy chatting just join #murlidhar only u two will be there
[04:53] <Luderacer> macogw,  how do i make /boot bigger?
[04:53] <macogw> Luderacer: partitioner
[04:53] <reya276> ok need some major help
[04:53] <macogw> Luderacer: might require wiggling things all around though
[04:53] <subsume> amenado: http://paste.stgraber.org/1417 and http://paste.stgraber.org/1418
[04:53] <Luderacer> macogw,  would it be easier to just install Fedora then ubuntu?
[04:54] <BIOSboiler_> how do i install flash from cmd line?, how do i get you tube to work?
[04:54] <Agent_bob> Luderacer do you have a seperate boot partition ?
[04:54] <amenado> Luderacer-> in the install process you do get to select the size of a partition you want to install on,
[04:54] <morgan> murlidhar how do I do that?
[04:54] <murlidhar> or any of u create a new channel .
[04:54] <macogw> morgan: he makes a good point..we could make our own channel.  ok go join #helpmorgan
[04:54] <reya276> I install some new printer drivers for HP laserjet p1006, but now I got a bunch of files on my home directory and the printer says is not available
[04:54] <Luderacer> Agent_bob,  made for fedora
[04:54] <Luderacer> Agent_bob,  made for fedora ?
[04:54] <juank_prada> BIOSboiler_, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[04:54] <macogw> Luderacer: dunno
[04:54] <amenado> subsume and can that ping the server?  192.168.1.1 ?
[04:54] <macogw> Luderacer: i tend to not use a /boot partition
[04:54] <murlidhar> morgan, "/join #morgan"
[04:55] <subsume> amenado: network unreachable
[04:55] <Agent_bob> Luderacer you shouldn't need but about 20m for a few kernels
[04:55] <amenado> subsume even pinging just the server?
[04:55] <subsume> amenado: would ltsp dhcp of server help you?
[04:55] <Luderacer> Agent_bob,  so when i installed ubuntu i shoulda made it smaller
[04:55] <animesh> I am using ubuntu-7.04 when i try start my system,giving the  error "malloc: unknown:0: assertion botched
[04:55] <animesh> free: start and end chunk sizes differ
[04:55] <animesh> Aborting..."
[04:55] <unique> ok off topic is it possible to install the x64 version with out doing a complete reinstall of Ubuntu
[04:55] <Agent_bob> macogw yeah i tend to not use a aprtition at all
[04:56] <amenado> subsume also you have not explained to me yet,  how are these clients connected to into the server?
[04:56] <Geoffrey2> !samba
[04:56] <ubot3> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[04:56] <subsume> amenado: dear lord I dunno.
[04:56] <animesh> what is probable cause of this problem
[04:56] <animesh> can anyone suggest me?
[04:56] <unique> i had two copys of ubuntu n i thought i put the x64 on but i put 32 on
[04:56] <Agent_bob> Luderacer i'm just saying that a boot partition only holds kernel/initramfs pairs  and a few config files.
[04:57] <amenado> subsume time to roll your sleeves and follow the mesh of cables, do not forget to label them too
[04:57] <subsume> amenado: they go into the ceiling and stuff
[04:57] <Luderacer> Agent_bob,  ok going to do a clean install this weekend and install fedora first
[04:57] <amenado> subsume they are labeled right in the patch panel? do they go then into a switch?
[04:58] <subsume> yeah
[04:58] <amenado> follow those
[04:58] <Agent_bob> Luderacer the kernal/initramfs pair is only about 5 to 8 meg   so if you have as little as 20m free on the boot partition you should still be ok to install
[04:58] <murlidhar> how do i smoothen fonts in firefox??????
[04:58] <Luderacer> yes i understand that Agent_bob , but it wouldnt let me
[04:59] <darkcrab> Hi all, I have a memory leak somewhere. My system will climb to about 486 mb of memory usage, and them log off to the login screen. I have turned off my compiz effects to see if that is effecting it, but so far it doesnt seem that way. Any ideas?
[04:59] <animesh> I am using ubuntu-7.04 when i try start my system,giving the  error "malloc: unknown:0: assertion botched
[04:59] <animesh>  free: start and end chunk sizes differ
[04:59] <animesh>  Aborting..."
[04:59] <murlidhar> how do i smoothen fonts in firefox??????
[04:59] <bazhang> darkcrab: have you check top in the terminal?
[04:59] <unique> is there anyway i can get a x64 version installed without doing the entire reinstall?
[04:59] <bazhang> unique: no
[05:00] <Luderacer> thanks for your help everybody i need to go to bed thanks Agent_bob  and amenado
[05:00] <darkcrab> im sorry, what do you mean bazhang?
[05:00] <animesh> can any one suugest me what is the probable cause if this type of error?
[05:00] <bazhang> darkcrab: open a terminal and type top
[05:00] <darkcrab> k
[05:00] <Geoffrey2> can anyone recommend a good guide for setting up samba under Ubuntu
[05:00] <unique> ok so just  boot with the disk n install n reformat the drive right?
[05:00] <murlidhar> the best thing is i am asking this since two days ,
[05:00] <reya276> bazhang: dude I had no luck I think I made it worst than what it was
[05:01] <bazhang> http://www.stchman.com/foo2zjs.html reya276 perhaps time for this then ;]
[05:01] <Agent_bob>       repete, timidity error;" /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found \n Couldn't open output device " ???
[05:01] <reya276> now I got a bunch on files on my home directory and some HP Device tools
[05:01] <murlidhar> how do i smoothen fonts in firefox??????
[05:01] <murlidhar> the best thing is i am asking this since two days ,
[05:01] <unique> ok macogw thanks for the help n every one else
[05:01] <murlidhar> anybody?
[05:01] <Agent_bob> what provides /usr/bin/esd ?
[05:01] <bazhang> unique: sure; backup what you need to first though
[05:01] <reya276> bazhang: but how can I undo all this mess
[05:01] <unique> ok thanks bazhamg
[05:01] <unique> see u in a bit
[05:01] <subsume> amenado: what's that iptables command?
[05:02] <smick> well I've tried about 15 times to install or run the live 710 cd and it consistently fails. Is it my q600 quad processor, my 8800GT Nvidia DDR3 graphics card? What could this be??
[05:02] <amenado> subsume iptables -vL -n   and iptables -t nat -vL
[05:03] <Agent_bob> -root: iptables: command not found
[05:03] <smick> it sometimes gets to configure the displays and either going with safe mode, or trying to match the card and LCD, it still goes to the screen that has a few lines of [ok] next to them. and stalls
[05:03] <amenado> smick lets trade, my box is a 1.8 gig p4 512 meg. :)
[05:04] <smick> amanado: the whole reason I'm trying to get it going is to see if my onboard sound has a hardware problem or if i's just windows.
[05:04] <bazhang> smick: you might try in safe mode or using the alternate cd; is this a dual boot or ubuntu only
[05:04] <darkcrab> ok I did that, the majority of my memory is being used, only 4 processes are being actively run, and 12.4% of that is being devoted to firefox
[05:04] <Agent_bob> amenado i have a p1 100mhz 64m ram  box with 610m hdd running ubuntu+kde   want to trade ?
[05:05] <smick> bashang: thanks, tried both those methods.  I've installed the software from alternate CD only for it to fail writing grub.
[05:05] <smick> anyone suggest another small live CD to test on board sound? puppy or something.
[05:05] <smick> I need one that can understand quad-core and new nvidia card
[05:05] <Agent_bob> smick DSL
[05:06] <erawfish_> not DSL
[05:06] <smick> not DSL?
[05:06] <amenado> Agent_bob-> lol, i will include my 8.5 inch floppies
[05:06] <darkcrab> bashang ok I did that, the majority of my memory is being used, only 4 processes are being actively run, and 12.4% of that is being devoted to firefox
[05:06] <erawfish_> DSL uses a 2.4 kernel. and no nvidia drivers
[05:06] <Agent_bob> amenado yeah it only has 5.25 and 3.5 floppies in int.
[05:06] <bazhang> dsl is old skool
[05:06] <erawfish_> darkcrab: there never is any free memory
[05:07] <Agent_bob> dsl is only 50m   live CD
[05:07] <darkcrab> yes, but it is causes me to logout erawfish
[05:07] <amenado> am off..
[05:07] <smick> would I be better with a 810 alpha version to check on board sound. Maybe it will get me further.
[05:07] <erawfish_> darkcrab: check dmesg for OOM killer
[05:07] <darkcrab> just type dmesg in terminal?
[05:08] <bazhang> smick: I think you mean 8.0.4 ;]
[05:08] <Mike_> hey can someone help me with a wireless problem ?
[05:08] <smick> bashang: that's right. my bad.
[05:08] <bazhang> 8.10 is but a dream right now ;]
[05:08] <erawfish_> darkcrab: how much of your swap is used and how much RAM do you have?
[05:09] <smick> do we have reliable torrents of 804 right now?
[05:09] <darkcrab> I have 512 and right now 339 is being used.
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> i am god.
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> im also a leet ninja hacker.
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> A+\
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> So who needs help.
[05:09] <Mike_> i do
[05:09] <darkcrab> swap, 31.7 is being used. hmmm...maybe it was compiz.
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> Whats the problem Mike_
[05:09] <Mike_> im having trouble with the wireless set up
[05:09] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, are you new to Linux?
[05:09] <Mike_> my wireless card sees networks but wont conect
[05:10] <Mike_> yes
[05:10] <tcpdumpgod> Okay, do you know how to parse log files?
[05:10] <Mike_> no haha
[05:10] <tcpdumpgod> Going through them to find what the issue is?
[05:10] <tcpdumpgod> Okay check it out. Are you familiar with the Linux command  line?
[05:11] <Agent_bob>       repete, timidity error;" /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found \n Couldn't open output device "   somebody what provides /usr/bin/esd ?
[05:11] <Mike_> somewhat i know the basic command and if you tell me what to do i ll go do it haha i have to log off xp and go to ubuntu ( at least till i get my wireless working)
[05:11] <tcpdumpgod> Guess not.
[05:11] <erawfish_> !wireless | Mike_
[05:11] <ubot3> Mike_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:11] <bazhang> tcpdumpgod: less self praise please
[05:11] <erawfish_> Mike_: what chip do you have?
[05:11] <tcpdumpgod> of course bazhang ;)
[05:11] <darkcrab> can running compiz-fusion cause problems like memory leaks?
[05:12] <bazhang> darkcrab: yes for sure
[05:12] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, do you have wired internet connectivity on your Ubuntu box3n?
[05:12] <erawfish_> darkcrab: can you answer my question please?
[05:12] <darkcrab> I did erawfish
[05:12] <darkcrab> you must have missed it
[05:12] <ToastGuy_> how do I include a dynamic date in time when calling a file by command line?
[05:12] <tcpdumpgod> possibly darkcrab, how much is it using?
[05:12] <Mike_> no =( its a laptop and i run off of a city paid for wirless service
[05:12] <erawfish_> darkcrab: no you did not
[05:12] <erawfish_> oops. sorry. you did. didn't see the swap line
[05:12] <smick> do I need the 64bit ubuntu for a quad core?  It doesn't say 64bit
[05:12] <Mike_> erawfish: did you mean cpu or for my wifi card?
[05:13] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, im confused... how are you connecting now? Are you on XP on the same machine as Ubuntu is on?
[05:13] <Mike_> yes
[05:13] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, I have to be able to communicate with you while we're troubleshooting.... do you have another mahcine?
[05:13] <erawfish_> Mike_: wlan card
[05:13] <darkcrab> 343.1 mb of 495.7 mb 69.2 % mem 33,9 mb of 1.1 gb  2.9 % swap erawfish_
[05:14] <darkcrab> and that is with compiz disabled erawfish_
[05:14] <erawfish_> darkcrab: so until sdwap is full it won't kill any processes
[05:14] <tcpdumpgod> darkcrab, see what its using now and compare it to what it is using in 30 mins or so... then compare... check the web for bug reports about memory leaks.
[05:14] <Agent_bob> mem [05:14] <Mike_> broadcom
[05:14] <mac`> i got hacked.. Mar 10 06:25:01 passion su[9443]: + ??? root:nobody
[05:14] <erawfish_> ugh
[05:14] <darkcrab> k thanks guys. :)
[05:14] <tcpdumpgod> awesome mac`
[05:14] <mac`> Mar 10 06:25:01 passion su[9443]: Successful su for nobody by root
[05:14] <FXRS> anyone know if gimp will rename a photos in a batch and if so how?
[05:14] <mac`> wtf you mean awesome
[05:14] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, l'd sugguest you get a rootkit
[05:15] <tcpdumpgod> It was a joke mac` ;)
[05:15] <Mike_> the driver i have is working like it see the networks it goes and tries yto grab the ip and then just stops after a few min
[05:15] <erawfish_> Mike_: now the question is how?
[05:15] <jaren> ctcp cx-allmp3-49059full xdcc send #34
[05:15] <erawfish_> Mike_: and reinstall
[05:15] <erawfish_> oops. was for mac`
[05:15] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, then you need to check your logs for your wireless card... /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog and "dmesg" command.
[05:15] <darkcrab> be back
[05:15] <tcpdumpgod> Notate what you see and then report back to me... thats all I can suggest.
[05:15] <Mike_> ok thank you very much
[05:16] <erawfish_> Mike_: you probably need to use ndiswrapper. you can try bcm43xx
[05:16] <Sl4y3r> how do i play mp3s
[05:16] <Sl4y3r> ?
[05:16] <erawfish_> !mp3 | Sl4y3r
[05:16] <ubot3> Sl4y3r: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <ToastGuy_> how do I include a dynamic date in time when calling a file by command line?
[05:16] <Mike_> erawfish: i used the firmware extracter and then just esed the driver through my restricted hardeware
[05:16] <smick> sl4yer get amarok for kde for a good looking app
[05:16] <bazhang> Sl4y3r: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:17] <lerio> guys is it possible to connect 10pcs mouse in ubuntu with 10pcs keyboard and monitor?
[05:17] <Agent_bob> toastGuy `date`   ?
[05:17] <nickrud> Sl4y3r: <backspaces> see bazhang above
[05:17] <mac`> not the first time. what can i do. OS is so weak
[05:17] <karllen1> hey anyone help my with wifi and macbook santa rosa
[05:17] <erawfish_> lerio: you will run out of videocard outputs and USB ports
[05:17] <karllen1> im using the wiki and it does not seem to work
[05:17] <erawfish_> lerio: technically possible yes, practically not really
[05:17] <ToastGuy_> Agent_bob:  ya I need it in the format like   YYYY-MM-DD
[05:18] <tcpdumpgod> erawfish_, that's available in the restricted drivers manager... i think he's already tried that... hence him being able to see networks and what not.
[05:18] <Agent_bob> toastguy the man page has the answer on how to format it.
[05:18] <Mike_> erawfish: did you see what i said?
[05:18] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, what OS are you using?\
[05:18] <ToastGuy_> Agent_bob: that's a good idea
[05:18] <tcpdumpgod> Im a security analyst so Im pretty good with lockdowns.
[05:18] <lerio> earwfish: yes but i forgot the company that makes it possible.it is BLUE something
[05:18] <tcpdumpgod> Snort is the bomb
[05:18] <Agent_bob> toastguy   this is only an example.    date +"%H:%M.%S"
[05:18] <smick> anyone know if the hardy live CD will support more cards / displays than 710 or am I wasting my time downloading it now?
[05:19] <subsume> How to refresh my dhcp connection?
[05:19] <ToastGuy> Agent_bob: thanks
[05:19] <erawfish_> lerio: all you need is the hardware (videcards and USB) the rest ubuntu can do on its own without special software
[05:19] <Mike_> ok im gonna switch ill be back
[05:19] <tcpdumpgod> smick, what card/display do you have that it wont support.
[05:19] <Sl4y3r> how do i install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:19] <tcpdumpgod> ok mie
[05:19] <lerio> erawfish: 1unit of ubuntu with 10clients
[05:19] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, *
[05:19] <tcpdumpgod> Sl4y3r, through synaptic or through aptitude or apt-get.
[05:19] <erawfish_> lerio: if you have the connectors the amount of clients is unlimited basically
[05:19] <mac`> can someone tell me what this msg exacly means
[05:19] <mac`> Mar 10 06:25:01 mac su[9443]: Successful su for nobody by root
[05:19] <mac`> Mar 10 06:25:01 mac su[9443]: + ??? root:nobody
[05:19] <erawfish_> but you'd need 10 videocard outputs and 20 USB ports
[05:19] <lerio> erawfish: is it like the thin client?
[05:19] <smick> tpcdumpgod: well the live CD for 710 continuously fails on my quadcoare q6600 with Nvidia 8800GT card
[05:20] <Agent_bob> toastguy   this is only an example.      `date +"%m-%d-%Y"`   <<< but more closely related to your Q
[05:20] <erawfish_> smick: use the alternate install cd?
[05:20] <subsume> How to refresh my dhcp connection? can't be THAT hard.
[05:20] <Sevensins> hello
[05:20] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, that means that the user gained root access with the "su" command.
[05:20] <smick> ecrawfish_ already did, it installed but failed to write grub.
[05:20] <bazhang> Sl4y3r: sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:20] <tcpdumpgod> subsume, "/etc/init.d/dhclient restart"
[05:20] <nickrud> mac`: that means some app running as root switched to being the user nobody for security reasons. nobody has very low permissions, so it can't damage your system
[05:20] <smick> hence using the live CD to fix it all.  All this just to test onboard sound on my new shuttle to see if I need to RMA this thing.
[05:20] <Agent_bob> toastguy    command --switches filename-`date +"%m-%d-%Y"`.txt       or some such
[05:20] <ogre> how can i detect the mac address of my wireless card?
[05:21] <Sevensins> can anyone tell me when alsa 1.016 will be available for ubuntu to install it from the repos as usual
[05:21] <mac`> ok let me format the system agin
[05:21] <mac`> cuz this is not happen
[05:21] <mac`> this is the 3time
[05:21] <mac`> i formated and seeing that msg
[05:21] <ToastGuy> Agent_bob: ah.. cool... let me try that
[05:21] <subsume> tcpdumpgod: doesn't exist
[05:21] <mac`> i was sure but i m like let me ask
[05:21] <nickrud> mac`: that's a good message
[05:21] <smick> I was using XP, and onboard sound drivers fail, I thought, well I'll load ubuntu to see if I can't test it there before I return to manufactureer
[05:21] <MutantBC> is there a way to download faster from the mirror servers from Software Source
[05:21] <tcpdumpgod> nickrud, would that not mean that the user nobody in the group nobody su-ed to root?
[05:21] <mac`> ya. what can i do to provent not happing agin
[05:21] <juank_prada> ogre, in a terminal run 'ifconfig'
[05:21] <mac`> if you do have time can you plz tell me
[05:21] <tcpdumpgod> subsume, hold up
[05:21]  * tcpdumpgod opens up a terminal
[05:22]  * mac` shuts the system down
[05:22] <nickrud> tcpdumpgod: no, it's done _by_ root
[05:22] <lerio> erawfish: anyway forget it...i also want to ask if can i remote desktop my home computer from my office and how will i open the port i use remote desktop in ubuntu and realvnc in xp
[05:22] <Agent_bob> toastguy a test usage might be something like this#    date > filename-`date +"%m-%d-%Y"`.testfile ;ls
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> Successful su for nobody by root
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> for nobody.
[05:23] <mac`> they were trying to hack into my bsd they did not have no luck
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> hince the name and group on the 2nd line.
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> Mar 10 06:25:01 mac su[9443]: + ??? root:nobody
[05:23] <ToastGuy> Agent_bob: Ya, I did an #> echo `date +"%Y-%m-%d"`  it shows # > 2008-03-10
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> nobody:nobody got root:nobody
[05:23] <ToastGuy> Agent_bob: perfect!
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> right?
[05:23] <nickrud> tcpdumpgod: hm, I need to read further. Thanks
[05:23] <tcpdumpgod> Well I was asking so I made sure I understood.
[05:23] <Agent_bob> toastguy welcome.
[05:23] <mac`> i got there info i send the msg to isp
[05:24] <tcpdumpgod> I think nobody switched to root so that it can run a daemon or something.
[05:24] <erawfish_> mac`: why the ISP?
[05:24] <mac`> tcpdumpgod: it took me so long to config the system i guess my best thing to do is reformat it
[05:24] <erawfish_> and what process runs under the user nobody for you?
[05:24] <mac`> erawfish_: why not
[05:24] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, check messages.
[05:25] <erawfish_> mac`: what is the ISP supposed to do?
[05:25] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[05:25] <lostxion> any one be able to tell me if i can get itunes or any application to run a ipod on ubuntu???
[05:25] <mac`> what do you mean? there the one whois providing him or her with the service
[05:25] <mac`> think about it
[05:25] <tcpdumpgod> lostxion, there's a program... i forget what its called.
[05:25] <nickrud> give it to the nsa
[05:25] <tcpdumpgod> there is a "itunes" like program for l00n1x though
[05:26] <bazhang> lostxion: newest one or older ipod
[05:26] <subsume> how to change my gateway?
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, what service were you running that they exploited?
[05:26] <subsume> anyone?
[05:26] <lostxion> the touch
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> subsume, nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <erawfish_> mac`: BS. you are, that is if you are a hacked in the first palce. not the job of the ISP to protect you
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> or something.
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> do a "man /etc/network/interfaces"
[05:26] <subsume> tcpdumpgod: from command line
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> subsume, yes
[05:26] <mac`> Mar 10 03:09:36 mac sshd[6762]: Invalid user admin from 193.227.49.9
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> you can do it through the GUI too.
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> i forget how though
[05:26] <Agent_bob> subsume route add default gw 127.0.0.1       of course the ip is not what you want...
[05:26] <tcpdumpgod> mac`, thats just someone TRYING to hack you.
[05:27] <sfears> gateway gui system/prefs/network properties of you ethernet card
[05:27] <mac`> ya he asked me for the info
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob, that's only temp though.
[05:27] <mac`> so i m like ya sure why not
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> Have him hard code it in a config file.
[05:27] <lostxion> how do you speak to someone directly on here??
[05:27] <subsume> lostxion: you will have to register first
[05:27] <bazhang> lostxion: you need libgpod 0.6.0 which will be available in a couple of weeks in Hardy--best to just wait; though you can compile now if you wish ;]
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> mac`,  you're not making sensre.
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> sense*
[05:27] <subsume> lostxion: /msg nickserv to find out how. then you /msg <person> hi
[05:27] <mac`> type /notice nicname
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> you're not hacked man, you're just paranoid.
[05:27] <tcpdumpgod> I used to be too.
[05:27] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod yes.  you add the gw to the /etc/network/interfaces   for a permanant change.
[05:28] <tcpdumpgod> Right, he'll reboot and be like :O
[05:28] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[05:28] <lostxion> k thanks
[05:28]  * sfears thinks his computer is hacked by bill gates
[05:28] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob, you must be an old schooler.
[05:28] <bazhang> np
[05:28] <Agent_bob> what's old ?
[05:28] <mac`> paranoid. its says the msg clear nobody got access to root
[05:28] <subsume> tcpdumpgod: its me. I'll stop. ok?
[05:28] <tcpdumpgod> mac`,
[05:28] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod if you refer to the fact that i don't use a gui   then yeah.
[05:28] <subsume> tcpdumpgod: just msg me your SSN and I'm done
[05:29] <mac`> but then agin how can nobody has account that is pw by log
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> what you dont understand is that it is a PROGRAM using the system user NOBODY to run a daemon so that no one HACKS IT!
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> JESUS!
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> yes Agent_bob :)
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> ok subsume
[05:29] <subsume> tcpdumpgod: wrong msg. sorry.
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> I have lifelock though... ok?
[05:29] <subsume> i maent those for mac`
[05:29] <subsume> haha
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[05:29] <subsume> DRATS
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> I was like... :\
[05:29] <sfears> i was going to mention life lock
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> Come on man...
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> hahah!
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, lol
[05:29] <subsume> haha
[05:29] <subsume> lifelock
[05:29] <subsume> jeez.
[05:29] <tcpdumpgod> w0rd
[05:29] <bazhang> !enter
[05:29] <ubot3> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:30] <tcpdumpgod> Sorry bazhang its been a while since i've been on IRC... getting carried away :)
[05:30] <tcpdumpgod> Anyway, who else needs help. Give me something hard. Like... HA config or something. Or SQL replication.
[05:31] <erawfish_> Agent_bob: 2sdddddddd
[05:31] <erawfish_> fdfrä
[05:31] <tcpdumpgod> Man, i need to get a job again I guess... im getting hungry to fix things.
[05:31] <xenthro> Hi, I just installed gallery2 but I dont know how to start it... http://localhost/gallery2/ brings up nothing
[05:31] <mac`> tcpdumpgod: ok. i m understood what you said . tx man.
[05:31] <sfears> i have an error.. first line that shows on boot up about needing to use a 8139too driver.. any ideas tcpdumpgod
[05:31] <tcpdumpgod> Sure thing mac` . Check into "Snort IDS" mac` if you're a little noid about security.
[05:31] <subsume> amenado: paypal =)
[05:32] <tcpdumpgod> 8139too if im not mistaken is a NIC diver... all you need to do is download it.
[05:32] <tcpdumpgod> I believe its Realtek.
[05:32] <sfears> how do i disable the one being used?
[05:32] <bazhang> http://www.howtoforge.com/intrusion-detection-with-snort-mysql-apache2-on-ubuntu-7.10 mac`
[05:32] <erawfish_> 8139too ships with every kernel by default
[05:32] <mac`> i m learning on bsd and ubuntu does are the nice os that i picked up from...
[05:32] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, you're wanting to disable the 8139too module from being loaded?
[05:32] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah, that just clicked erawfish_
[05:33] <sfears> i think i need to enable 8139too & disable 8139
[05:33] <tcpdumpgod> ok sfears no problem... open up a terminal.
[05:33] <sfears> ok
[05:33] <tcpdumpgod> Let me know when you're ready.
[05:33] <sfears> ready ready
[05:33] <Micko113> Computers are like air conditioners, they stop working properly if you open Windows.
[05:34] <sfears> tee hee Micko113
[05:34] <Agent_bob>         timidity error;" /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found \n Couldn't open output device "   somebody what provides /usr/bin/esd ?
[05:35] <Agent_bob> ^5 Micko113
[05:35] <xb3rt> Do most people on linux use limewire, or is their some other hot software thats linux specific
[05:36] <bazhang> frostwire gtk-gnutella xb3rt
[05:36] <sfears> ummm.. xb3rt.. you do know your using IRC right?
[05:36] <sfears> one word.. !CSE
[05:37] <tcpdumpgod> sorry sfears my friend is hammered.
[05:37] <tcpdumpgod> Anyway... you have your terminal window up?
[05:37] <sfears> yup
[05:37] <tcpdumpgod> ok type the following.
[05:37] <tcpdumpgod> sudo -i
[05:38] <sfears> i'm quick with it.. go on
[05:38] <erawfish_> Agent_bob: man dpkg
[05:38] <erawfish_> Agent_bob: especially -S
[05:38] <Agent_bob> erawfish_ like that's going to show something not installed ???
[05:39] <erawfish_> Agent_bob: packages.ubuntu.com then
[05:39] <erawfish_> that does
[05:39] <tcpdumpgod> ok sfears
[05:39] <erawfish_> apt-file does too
[05:40] <tcpdumpgod> nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:40] <sfears> ohhh yeah.. the black list
[05:40] <tcpdumpgod> ;) @ sfears
[05:40] <tcpdumpgod> There you go, make yourself a note at the bottom in the format of the others and then put the module name you want to blacklist in there.
[05:40] <morgan> macogw:  thank you working fine.
[05:40] <sfears> cool
[05:41] <tcpdumpgod> Then when you're done sfears let me know and we'll get it out of there and get the other in.
[05:41] <tcpdumpgod> brb, ciggy time.
[05:41] <geo_> =-['
[05:41] <geo_> 123
[05:42] <Agent_bob> it really reeks that they don't build hardware anymore.  they only build partial hardware and write M$ software to do the work of hardware....
[05:42] <sfears> is it just 8139? or are there a couple other characters needed?
[05:42] <sfears> "blacklist 8139" ??
[05:43] <macogw> morgan: great!
[05:43] <morgan> macogw: thanks again..be blessed.  Catch you around sometime.
[05:43] <macogw> morgan: kk bye
[05:44] <macogw> morgan: and to answer your question, washington, dc
[05:44] <morgan> Used to live in Portland Or,
[05:44] <macogw> morgan: that explains being baptistt
[05:44] <Mike_> ok im back
[05:44] <macogw> morgan: i didnt think that was common outside the US
[05:44] <morgan> macogw, what is that supposed to me???
[05:45] <macogw> morgan: the USA has a lot of baptists....everywhere else has a lot of lutherans and anglican and stuff
[05:45] <morgan> macogw...wife from australia and I am baptist but you are right, it's not that common.
[05:45] <Mike_> tcpdumpgod: i got the log files you told me to look at copied to my xp desktop for review what am i looking for?
[05:45] <dhmmhd> Managed to get notebook wireless to work with Atheros wireless using ndiswrapper and DI 524 router using WPA PSK security but now scp (ssh copy) stalls after long transfer. Others have talked about making MTU smaller, but I can't make it take effect, manually changing /etc/network/interface nor any of the front-ends. Any ideas?
[05:45] <morgan> macogw:  that would be because of the influence of the Queen/Royals
[05:46] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, what we're looking for is anything indicating anything about why your wireless connection is dropping... it'll probably be around the bottom of the files.
[05:46] <Mike_> ok
[05:46] <macogw> morgan: yeah, i know....and that whole theocracy thing they had going on in most of europe. but we're OT now.
[05:46] <morgan> ptl
[05:46] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, yes... blacklist 8139
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> does apt-get install purge remove all related data files for a package?
[05:46] <sfears> cool.. ready to add 8139too
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> apt-get purge packagename
[05:47] <ubud> is there a software for recover accidently deleted partion?
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> ok sfears
[05:47] <morgan> well have a good nite macgow see you arund and thanks again.
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> "lsmod |grep 8139"
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> what is the output of that sfears
[05:47] <the7thmagus> hey, whenever I save a text file that I am actively editing in gedit, it creates a duplicate copy of the file with the same name but with a tilde at the end. what's up with that?
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> the7thmagus, thats a caching function.
[05:47] <tcpdumpgod> its a temp file the7thmagus
[05:47] <Agent_bob> so anybody care to     grep /usr/bin/esd /var/lib/dpkg/info    for me and see what provides that file ?
[05:48] <sfears> 8139too                27520
[05:48] <the7thmagus> hmm, thought so. any way I can stop that from occuring?
[05:48] <sfears> 8139cp                 25088  0
[05:48] <sfears> mii                     6528  2 8139too,8139cp
[05:48] <ubud> how to recover accidently delected partion
[05:48] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, you need to blacklist 8139cp, not 8139
[05:48] <macogw> the7thmagus: when you exit the editor, it should go away...assuming you tell it "discard changes" and dont just kill the process
[05:48] <sfears> alright
[05:48] <Agent_bob> ubud  testdisk  ?
[05:49] <nickrud> !terminal | Sl4y3r
[05:49] <ubot3> Sl4y3r: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:49] <tcpdumpgod> the7thmagus, you dont want to... its supposed to do that.
[05:49] <ubud> thanks
[05:49] <the7thmagus> alright. thanks
[05:49] <sfears> done
[05:49] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob, there's a function with aptitude or dpkg that'll show you what provides a file...
[05:49] <tcpdumpgod> no problem the7
[05:49] <Agent_bob> !info testdisk > ubud
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> !smartd | ubud
[05:50] <ubot3> Factoid smartd not found
[05:50] <tritium> Agent_bob: dpkg -S <filename>
[05:50] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod only if you have it.   not what provides something not installed.
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> I belive you're wrong Agent_bob
[05:50] <ubud> thanks everyone
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> Maybe I am.
[05:50] <nickrud> Agent_bob: heh. I don't have it, but apt-file says it's in esound
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, you're done?
[05:50] <sfears> yup
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, "rmmod 8139cp"
[05:51] <Agent_bob> tritium ;/
[05:51] <Mike_> tcpdumpgod: im guessing the word pci and interupt arent supposed to go in them line ?
[05:51] <tritium> Agent_bob: what?
[05:51] <tritium> Agent_bob: be sure to specify the full path
[05:51] <Agent_bob> nickrud thank you.
[05:51] <macogw> sfears: that'll take a sudo
[05:51] <sfears> module 8139cp removed
[05:51] <Y-Town> How do you go about opening a port? like 443
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> Mike_, are you talking about the log files? No... thats normal. You're looking for something like wlan0 or something.
[05:51] <Agent_bob> tritium    dpkg: /usr/bin/esd not found.
[05:51] <sfears> and add 8139too to modules file?
[05:51] <Agent_bob> tritium and  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d36f481e
[05:52] <dhmmhd> why does scp stall after long file transfer (wireless)?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> just so you know.
[05:52] <tritium> Agent_bob: you have to have the file you're searching for to use dpkg -S
[05:52] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob,  dpkg -S esd
[05:52] <Agent_bob> tritium but nickrud answered me.  so i'm good.  thanks.
[05:52] <Agent_bob> tritium yes exactly.  that's what i've been saying.
[05:52] <tcpdumpgod> Y-Town, you have to have a program/daemon listening on that port.
[05:52] <tcpdumpgod> 443 is HTTPS
[05:52] <Crysthyna> Hello, play online with me ,
[05:52] <Crysthyna> http.//jugar-online.blogspot.com/
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> so you need apache and ssl running...
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> thanks Crysthyna
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> dhmmhd, latency.
[05:53] <Y-Town> tcpdumpgod: thanks
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> No problem Y-Town
[05:53] <Jeeves2> hi all.  can somoene give me a hand installing OpenTracker under Ubuntu?
[05:53] <dhmmhd> How to fix??? Have read about MTU, but having trouble setting. Latency is something else?
[05:54] <nickrud> Crysthyna: please don't advertise in this channel
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> dhmmhd, you may need to play with the channel settings on your wireless router.
[05:55] <Jeeves2> anyone?  assistance with opentracker?
[05:55] <sfears> MTU.. maximum transfer units i think.. has to do with the size of the data packets wrapped in tcp/ip protocol
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> Jeeves2, i've never used it. Have you checked the forums?
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> good job sfears =)
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> been reading your intro to tcp/ip eh?
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> Now, describe to me the layers of a TCP/IP stack :)
[05:55] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  yea, it's not much help.  there is lots of info on how the pirate bay uses it.
[05:55] <erealz> how do I create a link to a file via command prompt??
[05:56] <sfears> ummm...
[05:56] <Agent_bob> ok i have synthasized midi now.      i still say it's a shame that the newer hardware the more software it requires just to get it to do anything.    my old sound cards did midi out of the box...
[05:56] <tcpdumpgod> im joking sfears lol
[05:56] <sfears> uhhh... then she totally showed me her boobs
[05:56] <Jeeves2> sfears:  MTU is the size of the datagram going out of the unit for transport.
[05:56] <dhmmhd> Yikes... Settings on the router side, eh? MTU settings (often mentioned as a possible fix) are set in /etc/network/interface, but setting is not taking effect even after reboot or network restart
[05:56] <sfears> it was awesome!
[05:56] <tcpdumpgod> Jeeves2, let me see what I can pull up
[05:56] <macogw> erealz: just a symlink? or do you want a launcher?
[05:56] <tritium> sfears: stop discussing that
[05:56] <Jeeves2> dhmmhd:  what networking are you using?  100Base-T UDP cable?
[05:56] <macogw> sfears: O_o not appropriate
[05:57] <Agent_bob> thanks again nickrud
[05:57] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  ok, thanks.  I'm going to see if I can shed some light on this MTU issue seeing as I'm a cable monkey
[05:57] <tcpdumpgod> dhmmhd, i was talking about changing channels on your router to avoid other wireless interference.
[05:57] <Geoffrey2> oh, is there a flag to force apt to reinstall an already installed package?
[05:57] <erealz> syslink I guess
[05:57] <dhmmhd> jeeves2: Wireless, Atheros chip, ndriswrapper driver
[05:57] <tcpdumpgod> sweet Jeeves2 :)
[05:57] <tritium> Geoffrey2: --reinstall
[05:57] <bowsercake> ive been taking a Networking course at the University. Being a cable monkey is no fun
[05:57] <tcpdumpgod> Jeeves2, do you need to know how to install it, or configure it?
[05:57] <nickrud> Agent_bob: apt-file is nice to have installed. You don't need it often, but it answers a lot of questions
[05:57] <dhmmhd> I'll definitely try to change channels, as there are other wireless in the area.
[05:57] <Agent_bob> Geoffrey2: sudo apt-get install --reinstall blah
[05:58] <macogw> erealz: ln -s linktome nameoflink
[05:58] <Geoffrey2> thanks :)
[05:58] <tcpdumpgod> Yah, im glad I moved from systems administration to security analysis.
[05:58] <Jeeves2> dhmmhd:  ok, then it follows (loosly) that the wired side runs on.  as long as you're not pulling into a token ring or some other messed up connection (fibre backbone, optical ring, etc), then set it for either 1500 or 1400.  stay with 1500 first.
[05:58] <sfears> tcpdumpgod, if i add 8139too to /etc/modules that should fix me up huh?
[05:58] <tritium> Geoffrey2: that's what I told you above...
[05:58] <icesword> hmm,how do i minimize windows to top panel but not bottom panel
[05:58] <tcpdumpgod> yes sfears
[05:58] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  lol, I' stayed in network planning
[05:58] <sfears> excellent.. thanks
[05:58] <sfears> will try
[05:58] <tcpdumpgod> but you need to remove the module you're using now and insmod or modprobe the 8139too module.
[05:58] <macogw> erealz: example, ln -s /home/yoursister/music/ /home/you/sismusic
[05:58] <tcpdumpgod> or you can reboot.
[05:58] <bowsercake> yeah, using tcpdump is no fun
[05:59] <Agent_bob> nickrud yeah i may install it here but on dialup it takes it for ever to install/update it's cache
[05:59] <sfears> yeah yeah.. will reboot to make sure the error is gone
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> Word Jeeves2 :) to each their own.
[05:59] <bowsercake> I've mostly been using ethereal/net shark though
[05:59] <Jeeves2> bowsercake:  I'd rather have him on my side than against me
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> Better than hacking Solaris and crap.
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> ugh!
[05:59] <macogw> erealz: that'd make a directory in your home drive named sismusic that opens up your sister's music directory
[05:59] <icesword> hmm,how do i minimize windows to top panel but not bottom panel
[05:59] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  you're the guy that even I can't hid from
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> bowsercake, servers dont have netshark though
[05:59] <icesword> !minimize
[05:59] <ubot3> Factoid minimize not found
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> learn tcpdump ;)
[05:59] <nickrud> Agent_bob: never mind, it's faster to use packages.ubuntu.com in your case
[05:59] <icesword> !panel
[05:59] <ubot3> Factoid panel not found
[05:59] <tcpdumpgod> correct Jeeves2 :D
[05:59] <loser> tcpdumpgod: its mike.. i found a place in the dmesg were it says the name of my driver for the wireless card
[05:59] <Agent_bob> icesword move the taskbar to the top pannel ?
[06:00] <[dcr]> On my desktop cube, how do I change the picture behind teh cube?
[06:00] <tcpdumpgod> loser, okay... let me ask you this.
[06:00] <dhmmhd> It's is currently (default, as seen with "ip link") MTU 1500. When I manually edit /etc/netowrk/interface, MTU does not take effect even after networking restart. Front end programs (network-admin) are re-writing lots of stuff in /e/n/i too.
[06:00] <tritium> !botabuse | icesword
[06:00] <ubot3> icesword: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:00] <macogw> [dcr]: skydome
[06:00] <icesword> Agent_bob, how
[06:00] <tcpdumpgod> Can you connect to a wireless network and get throughput at all loser ?
[06:00] <macogw> [dcr]: the images have to be powers of 2 in each direction
[06:00] <zdux00tv> hi I can't use gparted, I am getting an error when I try to format "Error while setting new disklabel"
[06:00] <macogw> [dcr]: like 1024x1024 or 512x2048 or whatever
[06:00] <ubuntu2> how can i uninstall ubuntu grub from opensuse or ubuntu live cd?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> unlock it.  grab the left end handel of the taskbar on the bottom panel and drag it to the top ?
[06:00] <loser> tcpdumpgod: no it just sees them when it tries to connect it just keeps searching for th ip
[06:01] <nickrud> icesword: right click the dots just to the left of the window list, and unlock it. Then, grab it with the middle button and drag to the top menu
[06:01] <tcpdumpgod> dhmmhd, i dont think your MTU is your problem.
[06:01] <Amfetameen> ?
[06:01] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  any news on my opentracker?
[06:01] <tcpdumpgod> loser, have you tried power cycling your router?
[06:01] <tcpdumpgod> Not yet Jeeves2 still lookin
[06:01] <zdux00tv> Gparted error cont. : Could not stat device sda - No such file or directory.
[06:01] <[dcr]> macogw: so the Skydome in the Desktop Cube settings is what I need to change, right? (just makin sure)
[06:01] <dhmmhd> OK, tcp, I'll look into interference, I'll get back on #ubuntu tomorrow. Thanks for help!
[06:01] <macogw> [dcr]: yep
[06:01] <[dcr]> Thanks :)
[06:01] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  ok, I'll keep "looser" @ bay.  LOL
 Jeeves2, do you need to know how to install it, or configure it?
[06:02] <Geoffrey2> anyone know where I can get a replacement samba smb.conf file?
[06:02] <tcpdumpgod> I didnt see an answer to that.
[06:02] <tcpdumpgod> A+ @ Jeeves2
[06:02] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  maybe I'll send him over to "bay netowrks"
[06:02] <Agent_bob> icesword when i used gnome i moved the taskbar to the top panel. deleted the botum panel and moved the top panel to the left side.    but i'm only saying    "customize to suit taste"
[06:02] <tcpdumpgod> heheh
[06:02] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod: I need to know how to install/configure it
[06:02] <tcpdumpgod> ok
[06:03] <bowsercake> when I used gnome i used only the bottom panel and moved it off screen. I used Avant Window Manager only
[06:03] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  basiclly I don't want my little server to get hammered with a PHP baised tracker.  I tried XBT, and it sucked
[06:03] <SpookyET> I've been working on .vimrc for the last couple of hours. I've set up a sweet vimrc. I wonder if I forgot any cool stuff.
[06:03] <tcpdumpgod> aah Jeeves2 , i see..
[06:03] <loser> tcpdumpgod: se the thing with that is its not a router its a city provided wireless service and not in my house... but it doesnt lemme connect to any of the connections near me which is how i know its a prob with me plus if i needed to power cycle my router wouldnt i have to the same for xp to connect?
[06:03] <bowsercake> I've been using vi myself recently
[06:03] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod: it's a "pet project" before I let my flash programmer loose on the site
[06:03] <tcpdumpgod> thats right loser.
[06:03] <Agent_bob> bowsercake again "customize to suit taste
[06:03] <bowsercake> SpookyET, do you use GNU Screen?
[06:03] <tcpdumpgod> loser, try setting your MTU to 1492.;
[06:04] <tcpdumpgod> Jeeves2, check your private messages.
[06:04] <loser> tcpdumpgod: just tell me how and i will do im willing to learn haha
[06:04] <Agent_bob> some may like venella.   i don't.
[06:04] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod, loser:  try 1400 first, then work up till it gets flakey.  allwyas start smalll
[06:04] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah, im a novice @ connectivity issues.
[06:04] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[06:05] <tcpdumpgod> Jeeves2, did you get the PM from me?
[06:05] <pstv> HELP... ubuntu wont play dvd
[06:05] <Jeeves2> tcpdumpgod:  no worries, I'm bad @ the programming stuff.  (and yes, I got your PM, and sent 2 in return.  just join #jeeves)
[06:05] <loser> jeeves2, tcpdumpgod: could one of you direct me on how to do it im a novice and remeber i copy it down and bring it to the linux side with em so
[06:05] <SpookyET> bowsercake: i don't
[06:06] <Jeeves2> loser:  ok, one sec, I'll see if I can find it
[06:06] <macogw> pstv: thats because of stupid US laws that say decrypting DVDs is illegal
[06:06] <loser> jeeves2: thanks much
[06:06] <bowsercake> SpookyET, ok, just wondering. I've been using the sheel alot recently
[06:06] <macogw> !medibuntu | pstv
[06:06] <ubot3> pstv: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[06:06] <laurence_> hi
[06:06] <Jeeves2> loser:  you're using NDS wrapper, right?
[06:06] <macogw> pstv: that has what you need
[06:06] <laurence_> how do I write to a cdrom?
[06:06] <icesword> nickrud, thank you,i find there is a windows list icon on the bottom panel
[06:06] <zdux00tv> Cannot install, garted error: Could not stat device sda - No such file or directory. on /dev/sda.  Please help
[06:06] <pstv> macogw: what is medidbutnu?
[06:07] <icesword> it is small
[06:07] <bowsercake> laurence: are you using a recent version of Ubuntu? Gnome has built in features to make data cds
[06:07] <macogw> pstv: it's a repository with DVD decryptors and codecs for windows media files
[06:07] <Agent_bob> !register > Jeeves2
[06:07] <Laurenceb_> I have a data cd
[06:07] <HinHin> Is it possible to output 'apt-get install (package(s)) to HTTP links?
[06:07] <Laurenceb_> I want to add a directory to it
[06:07] <pstv> macogw: ok i'll try it rite now thanks
[06:07] <HinHin> XD... i want to download the packages @ uni
[06:07] <HinHin> and save my own bandwidth
[06:07]  * HinHin on very limited bandwidth connection
[06:08] <HinHin> ;_;
[06:08] <tcpdumpgod> loser, http://www.debianadmin.com/change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface.html
[06:08] <loser> jeeves2: no see the thing is when i used ndiswrapper it didnt work so i went and got bcm43xx_fwcutter and used the firmware for the driver through my restricted hardware option
[06:08] <Laurenceb_> cp /home/laurence/Documents/Report /media/cdrom0
[06:08] <macogw> !aptoncd | HinHin
[06:08] <ubot3> HinHin: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[06:08] <Laurenceb_> but that doesnt work
[06:08] <Laurenceb_> so how do I do it/
[06:08] <Agent_bob> HinHin aptzip
[06:08] <sfears> well i'm pretty sure i'm now using the 8139too driver.. but i still get the error at first boot.. if i watch boot up in terminal the 3rd line is the 8139cp error.. is that something that is compiled into my kernel & can't be taken out tcpdumpgod ?
[06:08] <macogw> Laurenceb_: if you've already finalized the disk, you cant change it
[06:08] <Jeeves2> loser:  I didn't forget about you.  don't worrk
[06:08] <HinHin> ubot3: Agent_bob :) thanks i'll look it up
[06:08] <Laurenceb_> what
[06:08] <ubot3> HinHin: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:08] <tcpdumpgod> no sfears do this "lsmod |grep 8139"
[06:08] <Laurenceb_> ?!
[06:08] <Jeeves2> loser:  try this.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430782
[06:09] <macogw> Laurenceb_: you can only add more if it's been made as a multi-session disk, otherwise it's sealed off
[06:09] <andy_> does anyone know how to mount a flash drive in Ubuntu?
[06:09] <Laurenceb_> I'm sure you can do that on windows
[06:09] <Laurenceb_> oh right
[06:09] <sfears> same output as last time
[06:09] <Laurenceb_> dam
[06:09] <Agent_bob> !aptzip > HinHin
[06:09] <pstv> macogw: so does that mean most people having ubuntu can't play DVD?
[06:09] <tcpdumpgod> !aptzip | HinHin
[06:09] <macogw> pstv: no, it means we ignore the law
[06:09] <ubot3> Factoid aptzip not found
[06:09] <pstv> macogw: haha i like that answer
[06:09] <ubud> I have a 4GB thumb driver. however when I plug it in ubuntu, its shows I have a 4MB thum driver instead of 4GB. can anyone help
[06:10] <zdux00tv> Could someone hlpe me to partition the disk?
[06:10] <Agent_bob> !info apt-zip > HinHin
[06:10] <andy_> how do you mount a flash drive
[06:10] <Agent_bob> sorry the first was a dud.
[06:10] <macogw> pstv: well the MPAA went and got Congress to make a law saying that it's illegal to break any encryption...and they encrypt their disks so that's how they want to stop piracy...so then you have to buy software like PowerDVD on Windows to do it...which is kinda unfair
[06:10] <tcpdumpgod> andy_, plug it into the USB port.
[06:10] <Parsec300> andy_, I normally just plug it in and it shows automatically on my desktop.
[06:10] <andy_> thanks i'll try that
[06:11] <macogw> pstv: it turns out it's *really* easy to break their encryption, so they needed the law to keep anyone from breaking it in a week
[06:11] <pstv> macogw: so even if i install Gstreamer plugins it wont work?
[06:11] <Laurenceb_> ok, how do I make sure a disk is burns at multi session/
[06:11] <macogw> pstv: that'll play stuff like MP3s
[06:11] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, are you installing right now?
[06:11] <Agent_bob> andy_ if ^ that don't work for you.    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt     is probably the idea.
[06:11] <macogw> pstv: you still need the plugins to get the DVD to play once it's decrypted
[06:12] <pstv> macogw: oh ok i'll gonna try to install medibuntu...brb
[06:12] <zdux00tv> Parrsec300: thanks, yes trying to
[06:12] <macogw> pstv: but libdvdcss2 is what breaks the decryption, and you have to decrypt before you can use a codec on it
[06:12] <Laurenceb_>  how do I make sure a disk is burnt at multi session/
[06:12] <Laurenceb_> ?
[06:12] <loser> tcpdumpgod, jeeves2: im going to try taking it through the ndiswrapper again lemme know if i have my caoomands in order here
[06:12] <tcpdumpgod> NDISWrapper is VERY flaky loser .
[06:12] <Agent_bob> Laurenceb_ depends on the app you burn with.
[06:12] <tcpdumpgod> I'd get another PCMCIA card if I were you.
[06:13] <zcat[1]> actually CSS doesn't prevent copying .. you can copy the whole disk bit for bit and it will play perfectly. CSS only stops fair use, like parallel importing, playing a DVD you bought in America from plaing in other countries, etc
[06:13] <Laurenceb_> the file browser
[06:13] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, how large a drive?
[06:13] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: it's the cloudbook notebook, it was difficult to boot up, Now I'm booted on a USB
[06:13] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: 30 gigs
[06:13] <loser> tcpdumpgod: are you saying its just better to mees with it as it lays because i can allready see the networks?
[06:13] <Parsec300> 100% Ubuntu?
[06:14] <MotorCityMadMan> hello, booting suse 10.3[1st.] and then ubuntu 7.10. i updated suse kernel. now booting suse gives grub error 15. how do i fix this ?
[06:14] <zdux00tv> Parsec: well, the hard drive is now erased, the usb is ubuntu
[06:14] <tcpdumpgod> no loser im saying to buy another network card because yours sucks with linux.
[06:14] <macogw> i cracked my back and woke my roommate
[06:14] <macogw> XD
[06:14] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, I mean, no Windows partition? All Ubuntu?
[06:14] <Agent_bob> zcat[1] you don't happen to have a good source on that do you ?
[06:15] <sfears> what's the apt-get command for search?
[06:15] <zcat[1]> Agent_bob: on what?
[06:15] <loser> tcpdumpgod: tell me about it =P mines an onboard so ill just go get a secondary but i will find a way to get this to work for now
[06:15] <macogw> sfears: apt-cache search
[06:15] <Agent_bob> what did you just say zcat[1] ^
[06:15] <sfears> cool
[06:15] <loser> tcpdumpgod: thanx for your so far
[06:15] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: yes, no anything unfortunatly. I just want Ubuntu
[06:15] <macogw> sfears: or make it easy on yourself. use aptitude for everything
[06:15] <macogw> sfears: aptitude install, aptitude search, aptitude purge...
[06:15] <Agent_bob> zcat[1] what CSS does/doesn't do.
[06:16] <tcpdumpgod> loser, without the ability to do something @ the router level, play with your MTU and what not.
[06:16] <tcpdumpgod> IF that does not work, get an Orinoco card.
[06:16] <loser> allright
[06:16] <tcpdumpgod> I'd get one anyway, because NDISWrapper sucks.
[06:16] <pstv> macogw: i copy and paste the commands in the terminal and ran the update still not working, what am i doing wrong?
[06:16] <tcpdumpgod> I'd rather eat nails than use it.
[06:16] <loser> lets see if i can get this bad boy to work and yeah i agree it is flky
[06:16] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, you could let it configure it automatically for you. Or manual config. In which case I would have a 10 gig parition ext3 with mountpoint "/", a 1 or two gig swap partition and the rest ext3 partition with mount-point /home.
[06:16] <zcat[1]> It's simple fact.. if you make a bitwise copy of the whole disk, the second disk is exactly the same thing as the first..
[06:17] <loser> i followed a tutorial for my exact comp and wirless card and it didnt work and it was from the ubuntu forums
[06:17] <Agent_bob> zcat[1] and how do you make this exact copy ?
[06:17] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: The automatic install seems to work, but boots up to "Operating System not found"
[06:17] <loser> ok ill be back guys
[06:17] <tcpdumpgod> k
[06:18] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, then I think you have a different problem. Perhaps try checking the drive for defects first. My take a long time. And the re-install.
[06:18] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, I
[06:18] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: so I've booted and trying through gparted
[06:18] <Agent_bob> zcat[1] you can't dd a dvd or even most cd's anymore.  you'll get a 'short read'   they blow a few holes in them to keep things like dd from working.
[06:18] <zcat[1]> possibly using fab equipment, I'm not sure if you can do it in a regular drive. But then the mass duplication plants in places like taiwan aren't using plain old PC DVD drives
[06:18] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, I'll be back later. Got te get my kids to school.
[06:19] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: I think it doesnt recognize /dev/sda perhaps because it's new,, or crappy...
[06:19] <zcat[1]> Agent_bob: that's copy protection, not CSS
[06:19] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: thnaks
[06:19] <macogw> pstv: ummm did you install libdvdcss2 after you finished?  and ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> should a swap partition be logical or primary?
[06:19] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak: don't matter
[06:19] <pstv> macogw: no, can i find that in sypnatic?
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: thanks.. i thought so, just wasn't sure
[06:20] <Parsec300> zdux00tv, even if it's new, automatic partitioning should work fine.
[06:20] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. gtg, night launch in a few minutes
[06:20] <zdux00tv> Parsec300: I'lll keep trying thanks for your help
[06:20] <pstv> macogw: i'm install it rite now brb
[06:20] <Laurenceb_> any gnomebaker users?
[06:21] <sfears> tcpdumpgod, i've got one for ya.. anytime i reboot i get an error "[<e0890610>] (usb_hac_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore])    irq 10: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option"  this does not happen when i shut down completly & restart.. only when i restart from fully booted ubuntu.. this happens right away at boot up directally after the 8139cp error
[06:21] <Agent_bob> zcat[1] exactly.   all CSS and DRM is really doing is making it hard for FOSS users to do what they can(or should be able to) legelly do with their own media.      that crap is an unpaletable evil.
[06:21] <neo_> WHAT permissions should i set to /etc/hosts file so that no program should be able to edit it  read only
[06:21] <Laurenceb_> how do I make a multisession disk?
[06:21] <Agent_bob> and i'm OT.
[06:21] <Laurenceb_> in gnomebaker?
[06:21] <zl3cat> btw zl3cat == zcat on other computer ..
[06:22] <pstv> macogw: i installed the libdvdcss2 but still doesn't work
[06:22] <tcpdumpgod> give me a min sfears checking
[06:22] <sfears> "[<e0890610>] (usb_hac_irq+0x0/0x60 [usbcore])    irq 10: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option"      it just keeps repeating and won't boot
[06:22] <neo_> WHAT permissions should i set to /etc/hosts file so that no program should be able to edit it  read only
[06:22] <zl3cat> neo_: chattr +i
[06:22] <Agent_bob> or +a
[06:23] <zl3cat> +a?
[06:23] <Agent_bob> yeah allows append but nothing else
[06:23] <zl3cat> Oh.. didn't know that
[06:23] <Agent_bob> thus you can add but can't edit.
[06:23] <pstv> macogw: this is the error i'm getting "Totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'. there is no plugin to play this movie"
[06:24] <neo_> zl3cat    didnt got u?
[06:24] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, http://www.hentges.net/misc/howtos/p4p800_SATA.html
[06:24] <sfears> will check it out
[06:24] <Agent_bob> neo_ chattr is an app that can make files imutable
[06:25] <Agent_bob> neo_ man chattr
[06:25] <tcpdumpgod> ok sfears , msg me if you have any questions
[06:25] <tcpdumpgod> chattr is the BOMB!
[06:25] <zl3cat> neo_: chattr can make the file 'immutable' or 'append-only' -- this overrides the normal ugo+-rwx permissions, very unlikely for any program to accidentally change it back
[06:25] <sfears> i don't have a sata drive tcpdumpgod
[06:25] <sfears> it's IDE
[06:25]  * Agent_bob always has sensitive system files  +i
[06:26] <sfears> it's mini IDE.. laptop hdd.. sata is the one that kinda resembles USB only longer right?
[06:26] <MotorCityMadMan> !grub
[06:26] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:26] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, i gaurentee that Ubuntu sees it as SATA.
[06:26] <sfears> ok
[06:26] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, fdisk -l
[06:26] <tcpdumpgod> see if it says "/dev/sda"
[06:27] <Agent_bob> grep sda /proc/partitions
[06:27] <nickrud> a thousand and one ways to do things, I love linux
[06:27] <tcpdumpgod> that'll confuse him Agent_bob
[06:28] <HinHin_1> hiya, is there a way to output "apt-get install package(s)" (without downloading packages) just the HTTP links
[06:28] <Agent_bob> only if it's empty
[06:28] <nickrud> HinHin: sudo apt-get install --print-uris
[06:28] <sfears> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:29] <HinHin_1> i tried apt-zip... it mounts some drive and downloads packages + generates a script
[06:29] <HinHin_1> nickrud: :) thanks i'll try that
[06:29] <Agent_bob> HinHin_1 apt-zip can make a script for you  that you carry to another box and execute to dl there.
[06:29] <neo_> agent_bob : how to use it with /etc/hosts
[06:29] <norty> Question: I want to copy files from a remote machine running ubuntu 7.10 to a machine I am on running windows, I can ssh into the ubuntu machine, how do I copy files doing this? (i am putty to ssh)
[06:29] <pstv> macogw: i re install the ubunt-restricted-extra and is working now thank i appreciate the help
[06:29] <Agent_bob> neo_ sudo chattr +i /etc/hosts
[06:30] <HinHin_1> Agent_bob: i need to download the packages on a windows computer @ uni
[06:30] <Agent_bob> neo_ or +a if you prefer
[06:30] <nickrud> HinHin_1: you're on the right track with apt-zip , using a usb stick as the device/drive works well
[06:30] <sfears> tcpdumpgod, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59223/
[06:30] <tcpdumpgod> wow
[06:30] <tcpdumpgod> thats surprising
[06:31] <HinHin_1> nickrud: unfortunely i can't run it on a windows box @ uni :(
[06:31] <tcpdumpgod> sfears, "dmesg |grep -i /dev/hda |more"
[06:31] <HinHin_1> i don't have bandwidth @ home...
[06:31] <neo_> agent_bob : it should be like that no program should be able to change ,,,   only i can
[06:31] <nickrud> HinHin_1: the box doesn't have wget ? you can adapt the script easily to a batch file
[06:31] <Agent_bob> neo_ ?
[06:32] <Agent_bob> neo_ sudo echo boo
[06:32] <sfears> [   46.675709] Adding 1951888k swap on /dev/hda3.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1951
[06:32] <sfears> 888k
[06:32] <HinHin_1> nickrud: nope... :) but i can run it off a usb stick
[06:32] <neo_> agent_bob : it should be like that no program should be able to change /etc/hosts,,,   only i can
[06:32] <Agent_bob> neo_ cause if sudo is not working then nothing you call with sudo will work either
[06:33] <Agent_bob> neo_ sudo echo boo
[06:33] <DrWho_989898> anyone seen this problem before? HUGE GDM login and GTK window title fonts? but only when compiz is started up first http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10124327/BUG.png
[06:33] <neo_> sudo works         it output   ¨boo¨
[06:33] <tcpdumpgod> neo_, if no program should be able to change /etc/hosts... how can the Gnome GUI do network configuration?
[06:33] <nickrud> DrWho_989898: why would you start compiz before gdm? It should be run on a per user basis
[06:33] <Agent_bob> ok   then    sudo chattr +i /etc/hosts
[06:33] <Agent_bob> neo_ and then     lsattr /etc/hosts
[06:34] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob, are you sure he wants to do that?
[06:34] <pstv> macogw: it is working now but the movie doesn't look too sharp..any idea?
[06:34] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod that's what he thinks he wants.    and i can't see it hurting anything.
[06:34] <zl3cat> not sure why he would want to do that, but fixing his box after he breaks it should make a nice learning experience :)
[06:34] <DrWho_989898> nickrud: I mean to say, only when compiz is loaded when the x session is started on first boot. if i change to metacity the fonts are fine.
[06:35] <tcpdumpgod> Agent_bob, gnome-network-settings isn't going to be able to change it.
[06:35] <stringCheese> question: how do you add something to autoboot?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod that's exactly what he requested
[06:35] <tcpdumpgod> stringCheese, add it to /etc/rc2.d/ and all other proper runlevels.
[06:35] <stringCheese> thanks
[06:35] <nickrud> DrWho_989898: hm. On my machine, compiz is started only after I log in, and is stopped when I exit. It's never running when the login screen is visible
[06:35] <tcpdumpgod> i know Agent_bob but as advanced users we have to think for the n00bs sometimes.
[06:36] <tcpdumpgod> Explain to him why programs can change it.
[06:36] <nickrud> DrWho_989898: unless I'm totally missing your point
[06:37] <DrWho_989898> nickrud: It is loaded after i login... the gdm issue doesn't go away if im running in metacity as it is also loaded after login... but the problem seems to be related.
[06:37] <nickrud> !autostart stringCheese
[06:37] <ubot3> nickrud: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:37] <nickrud> silly bot
[06:37] <Agent_bob> tcpdumpgod heh  i'm of the mind that if we take all the warning labels off everything,  the population and idiocy problems will solve themslevs
[06:37] <Agent_bob> selves
[06:37] <tcpdumpgod> lol Agent_bob.... natural selection.
[06:37] <neo_> agent_bob : prblm is that when some program changes the first line of file program starts very slow
[06:37] <nickrud> hm, DrWho_989898 then the track I was going down is not the right one, sorry
[06:37] <neo_> agent_bob : prblm is that when some program changes the first line of file,, program starts very slow
[06:37] <zl3cat> neo_: just for the record, no program will change /etc/hosts unless there is a very good reason.. and if there is a very good reason and it can't be changed, it might cause important programs to fail when /etc/hosts is 'wrong' (not changed as it was supposed to be)
[06:38] <nickrud> lots of dead children. But making warning labels invisible to adults ....
[06:38] <neo_> i think mozzila fire fox do it
[06:39] <zl3cat> firefox should be running as a normal user (you) and should not have access to write /etc/hosts at any time
[06:39] <neo_> zl3cat:i think mozzila fire fox do it
[06:39] <Agent_bob> nickrud OT but i would think there to be a differance in parents teaching their children and children having to read warnings for themselves.
[06:39] <zl3cat> neo_: I think you are wrong. It should not be possible for firefox to change the contents of /etc/hosts. Ever.
[06:40] <nickrud> Agent_bob: ot true.
[06:40] <neo_> so what is the reason p  startlong torograms taking to
[06:40] <neo_> so what is the reason pr ograms taking to long to start
[06:40] <Agent_bob> neo_ no will to engrish !
[06:41] <zl3cat> neo_: perhaps in the past you have done some other action which is equally inadvisable and are now suffering the consequences of that?
[06:41] <neo_> when i edit the file it seems fine
[06:41] <zl3cat> neo_: well, your box.. don't say we didn't warn you..
[06:42] <Agent_bob> neo_ did you     lsattr /etc/hosts     ?
[06:42] <neo_> ----i------------- /etc/hosts    is the output
[06:42] <Agent_bob> ok it wont change.
[06:43] <DrWho_989898> hey neo_ what seems to be the problem your having?
[06:43] <XceII> Let me say this: I cant tell you folks, (and volunteers), of the gratitude that we, fervent Ubuntu followers, how glad and gratuitous we are for your patients and knowledge base in helping us who are in the learning curve, A (Mighty) thanks is in order, (Thanks).
[06:43] <Cosmo-san> what is the edit command for xorg.conf if not "edit xorg.conf"  while I am in the X11 folder?
[06:43] <neo_> how do i takle network configrations?
[06:43] <Sl4y3r> just wondering if anyone knew why i cant get my desktop resolution to 1600x1200 using nvdia geforce mx 400
[06:43] <Sl4y3r> 6.06lts
[06:44] <zl3cat> Sl4y3r: You're sure your monitor supports that ?
[06:44] <Flannel> Thanks XceII, we appreciate it.
[06:44] <XceII> God bless you! im out.
[06:44] <Sl4y3r> yes when i had windows thats what i had it set on
[06:44] <neo_> Drwho_989898     ::    programs take long time to start
[06:44] <GR1> Hello. I am experiencing problems with wifi pcmcia Linksys WPC54G v 3.1 (bcm43xx) @ gutsy. It's ok if I connect to router with WPA. But activation fails if I connect to Ad-Hoc WEP. I can coonect only if I unplug WPC54G and plug in Cisco Aironet 350. What the solution could be?
[06:44] <Agent_bob> XceII noted.
[06:44] <DrWho_989898> sl4y3r: which driver are you using?
[06:44] <zl3cat> Sl4y3r: ok. You enabled 'restricted drivers' ?
[06:44] <DrWho_989898> lol
[06:45] <Sl4y3r> how do i enable restricted drivers?
[06:45] <icesword> !source > icesword
[06:45] <zl3cat> I'll let you handle this Doc
[06:45] <DrWho_989898> neo_: which programs? or is it all programs?
[06:45] <nickrud> DrWho_989898: zl3cat he's on dapper.
[06:46] <icesword> nickrud, archive.ubuntu.com is in USA,right
[06:46] <zl3cat> If dapper's LTS, does that mean we still have to support it? :)
[06:46] <neo_> mainly    terminal,mozilaa,etc     also when i open explorer cliking on desktop my compuer    it open  fast,,, but using places  in menu bar   it opens very slowly
[06:47] <DrWho_989898> hmm...
[06:47] <neo_> Drwho_989898 :mainly    terminal,mozilaa,etc     also when i open explorer cliking on desktop my compuer    it open  fast,,, but using places  in menu bar   it opens very slowly
[06:47] <Agent_bob> zl3cat we ?  no.    ubuntu/cannonical   yes.
[06:47] <Agent_bob> zl3cat i still use dapper
[06:48] <DrWho_989898> neo_:  did that just start or a problem from the start?
[06:48] <Sl4y3r> im farely new to linux
[06:48] <Sl4y3r> the 6.06 cd i got like a year or so ago
[06:48] <Sl4y3r> and just never installed it till today
[06:48] <DrWho_989898> Sl4y3r: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:48] <Sl4y3r> 6.06
[06:49] <zl3cat> Sl4y3r: you should get gutsy (or hold out a little and go right to hardy) .. dapper is pretty old and getting nvidia cards going wasn't as easy as it is in later versions
[06:49] <DrWho_989898> indeed
[06:49] <Peddy> can someone please tell me how to manually unlock DPKG?
[06:49] <Sl4y3r> ic
[06:49] <neo_> Drwho_989898 :after some days it started   ,,,    somebody told me to edit /etc/hosts file   and it worked     problem is that file sometimes changes by itself
[06:49] <firan45> gjhjhjhjhj
[06:49] <Sl4y3r> im farely patient so ill prolly just wait
[06:49] <Sl4y3r> but thanks
[06:49] <Agent_bob> Sl4y3r but    the generic  "nv" driver does support 1600 1280 res.
[06:50] <zl3cat> Sl4y3r: but since you're here.. pop a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy" I think..
[06:50] <zuiqingfeng> goul
[06:50] <firan45> mau cari temen nih. Mau ga jadi temen ku????
[06:50] <Damon> fuck ubuntu
[06:50] <zl3cat> !ohmy
[06:50] <ubot3> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:50] <Peddy> lol
[06:50] <icesword> ...
[06:50] <icesword> lol
[06:50] <firan45> waw!!
[06:50] <DrWho_989898> neo_: what did you change in the hosts file?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> zl3cat you sure he needs legacy ?
[06:50] <zl3cat> 3?!! what happened to ubotwo?
[06:51] <zl3cat> MX400 yes.. my mx440 needed legacy ..
[06:51] <Agent_bob> zl3cat the real bot is back   ubotu
[06:51] <neo_> first line from 127.0.0.1 localhost     to    127.0.0.1 localhost pcname
[06:51] <zuiqingfeng> how to use ubuntu ?
[06:51] <zl3cat> he did say mx400 back there? I can't find it but I think I saw it b4..
[06:52] <ToastGuy_> check out ubuntu.org
[06:52] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::first line from 127.0.0.1 localhost     to    127.0.0.1 localhost pcname
[06:52] <zuiqingfeng> ubuntu is better than microsoftwinows ?
[06:52] <Agent_bob> zl3cat oh he may have   i thought he said gforce
[06:52] <zl3cat> nah, found it .. mx 400 -- very legacy!
[06:52] <zuiqingfeng> haha
[06:53] <Sl4y3r> installed
[06:53] <Sl4y3r> and i still cant up the resolution
[06:53] <Agent_bob> mine is pre-legacy   ;(
[06:53] <icesword> zuiqingfeng, hi
[06:53] <zuiqingfeng> I LOVE UBUNTU
[06:53] <sepman18> zuigingfeng: it will be...
[06:53] <zuiqingfeng> EN .HOW ARE YOU .ICESWORD
[06:53] <zl3cat> !caps | zuiqingfeng
[06:53] <ubot3> zuiqingfeng: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:54] <icesword> zuiqingfeng, hmm,fine,where do you live
[06:54] <zuiqingfeng> YEAH .FROM ASIA
[06:54] <Sl4y3r> hmm
[06:54] <zl3cat> time to go get child ... cul8r
[06:54] <mike_> hahaha i did it
[06:54] <mike_> sweet
[06:54] <zuiqingfeng> ICESWORD .AND YOU ?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> http://tinyurl.com/70we @ zuiqingfeng
[06:55] <icesword> zuiqingfeng, hmm,not far from you
[06:55] <mike_> tcpdumpgod, jeeves2: thanks guys i got it working
[06:55] <zuiqingfeng> WHERE .ICESWORD
[06:55] <tcpdumpgod> sweet mike_ was it the MTU?
[06:55] <icesword> caps
[06:55] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::first line from 127.0.0.1 localhost     to    127.0.0.1 localhost pcname
[06:56] <DrWho_989898> neo_: what network adapter are you using?
[06:56] <Agent_bob> i'm disapointed.  i don't have anything to fix.
[06:56] <mike_> tcpdumpgod: actually it was the way it was set up it was listen in onplace as wlan0 and in another as eth1
[06:56] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::wireless   using ndiswrapper
[06:56] <geo125> hi my visual effects did not enable?
[06:56] <mike_> tcpdumpgod: im guessing that was my mistake somewhere along the line!
[06:56] <zuiqingfeng> ARE YOU ASLO USEING THE SYSYEM OF UBUNTU ? ICESWORD ...
[06:56] <DrWho_989898> neo_: ahhh...
[06:57] <tcpdumpgod> ah mike_
[06:57] <DrWho_989898> neo_: fucking ndiswrapper
[06:57] <icesword> zuiqingfeng, hmm,8.04
[06:57] <pajamian> zuiqingfeng: could you please not type in all capital letters, it is considered very rude.
[06:57]  * Agent_bob wonders what will happen if he plugs a crossover cable into both of the bridged nics on one box and pings his own ip.....
[06:57] <zuiqingfeng> sorry .
[06:57] <mike_> man i need to get a better irc client this gnome xchat isnt that great
[06:57] <pajamian> zuiqingfeng: thank you
[06:57] <Squa7ch> try Konversation mike_
[06:57] <DrWho_989898> neo_: what kind of wireless adapter do you have?
[06:58] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::   inbuilt
[06:58] <pajamian> mike_: xchat (without the -gnome) is good, imo.
[06:58] <geo125> hi my visual effects did not enable. it sais : the composite extension is not available
[06:58] <cpk1> Agent_bob: I imagine the same thing that would happen if you pinged your ip right now
[06:58] <mike_> i know thats what i have on the xp side of my comp
[06:58] <root70> hi all!anybody try iFolder in Ubuntu to working?
[06:58] <Squa7ch> yeah I use XChat in windows...
[06:58] <DrWho_989898> Agent_bob: you will ping yourself. or rather the other network card
[06:58] <zuiqingfeng> en.and what are you talk about ?
[06:58] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::  laptop model no ¨¨hp dv9601au¨
[06:58] <Sl4y3r> x.x
[06:58] <mike_> i got ubuntu to dive into linux but i have some experience with the KDE format of knoppix so i think ill do allright
[06:59] <Agent_bob> cpk1 yeah prolly  it's just that it would have three chances to find the ip...
[06:59] <co_aries> ika
[06:59] <linuxboy> will I be able to upgrade from Dapper to Hardy ?  LTS -> LTS ?
[06:59] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, no
[06:59] <geo125> hi my visual effects did not enable. it sais : the composite extension is not available ...  what to do...??
[06:59] <Agent_bob> cpk1 can you guess what will happen if you put more than one static ip of the same ip on a lan ?
[06:59] <Sl4y3r> i was told you could
[07:00] <DrWho_989898> Agent_bob: wanna fix this? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10124327/BUG.png been looking all over for a bloody solution
[07:00] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: oh, i thought there was an LTS -> LTS upgrade path
[07:00] <Estesark> Yesterday, Totem was working absolutely fine. Today all I get is pink and green lines, regardless of whether I'm trying to play a restricted file format or an open source one. Example: http://www.estesark.co.uk/graphics/other/totem.jpg - what can I do?
[07:00] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, it doesnt work like that ..
[07:00] <zuiqingfeng> I  thank you all not busy now .isn't it .
[07:00] <Agent_bob> DrWho_989898 i'll look   but i promice you nothing.
[07:01] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: pity
[07:01] <geo125> hi help..... my visual effects did not enable. it sais : the composite extension is not available ...  what to do...??
[07:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, dapper -> edgy -> feisty -> gusty -> hardy
[07:01] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::  laptop model no ¨¨hp dv9601au¨     got any solution??????????
[07:01] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: what about servers where you only want to run LTS?  reinstall ?
[07:01] <Agent_bob> warty hoary breezy dapper .... ^
[07:02] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: or delpoy a new server ?
[07:02] <technokrak1> How do i enable Visual effects (Compiz) on Ubuntu 7.10. When I do the system->Appearence ->Visual effects -> extra it says desktop effects not applied
[07:02] <Squa7ch> installed the restricted driver?
[07:02] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, u can upgrade ur server
[07:02] <Tex-Twil> Good morning
[07:02] <pajamian> linuxboy: The general idea is that LTS will last long enough until you are ready for a new server.
[07:02] <geo125> yes i have my ati installed
[07:02] <Tex-Twil> how can I prevent X server from starting ?
[07:02] <icesword> Tex-Twil, England?
[07:02] <Lartza_> How could I fix this: Updatetrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap?
[07:02] <mike_> haha i got the regular x chat from the add remove list im goo now
[07:02] <linuxboy> thanks
[07:02] <Tex-Twil> icesword, nope
[07:03] <pajamian> mike_: cool, the first time I saw xchat-gnome I got confused and thought it was regular xchat ... was even more confused after I installed it.
[07:03] <icesword> Tex-Twil, you mean gdm?
[07:03] <Tex-Twil> yes
[07:03] <Tex-Twil> I just want a text login prompt
[07:03] <Tex-Twil> and If I need x, startx
[07:03] <icesword> hmm,system>admin>services
[07:03] <sepman18> technorkak1: if you have integrated display
[07:04] <neo_> Drwho_989898::::  laptop model no ¨¨hp dv9601au¨     got any solution??????????
[07:04] <mike_> pajamian: yeah same here then i seen the 3rd partys and unsupported in the add/remove and clicked it and seen x chat i was frig yes
[07:04] <Lartza_> How could I fix this: Updatetrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[07:04] <icesword> Tex-Twil, tick off gdm.
[07:04] <DrWho_989898> Agent_bob: Sorry, 7.10, its always messed up in the gdm login / password box, but only in gnome when compiz is started at boot. if i switch to metacity and back to compiz it fixes itself
[07:04] <bAgent_bo> you know,  i don't think i have anything that will display a .png
[07:04] <Tex-Twil> ok icesword
[07:04] <geo125> hi help..... my visual effects dont get enable. it sais : the composite extension is not available ...  what to do...??
[07:05] <sepman18> technokrak1: sorry i pressed enter too soon
[07:05] <vox> ever since one of the gnome updates a few weeks/months ago, i cant open any files directly with mplayer. i have to open mplayer, then tell mplayer to open the file manually, yet i dont have this issues with vlc or the like. Any ideas on what's causing this?
[07:05] <DrWho_989898> neo_: System->Preferences->Hardware Information
[07:05] <DrWho_989898> neo_: find what card it is in there.
[07:05] <zuiqingfeng> y
[07:05] <Lartza_> How could I fix this: Updatetrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[07:05] <mike_> this runs so much smother than window screw that os im on here from now on
[07:06] <Sl4y3r> so you wont be able to upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04?
[07:06] <pajamian> mike_: :-)
[07:06] <DrWho_989898> neo_: as in make and model
[07:06] <geo125> drwho_989898 i have the ati driver allready installed
[07:06] <sepman18> technokrak1: i' ll have integretaded
[07:06] <zuiqingfeng> www.google.com
[07:06] <mike_> pajamian: ill keep windows till im fluent in this seem like its going to take some getting used to
[07:06] <Lartza_> How could I fix this: Updatetrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[07:06] <mike_> pajamian: do you know if you can run wine apps in ubuntu
[07:06] <pajamian> mike_: cool, I think you'll be ready to reclaim the HDD space that windows occupies sooner than you think ;-)
[07:07] <pajamian> mike_: of course you can.
[07:07] <pajamian> brb
[07:07] <icesword> Lartza_, what are you doing
[07:07] <DrWho_989898> neo_: find it?
[07:07] <cpk1> mike_: wine has a pretty good listing of what works and doesnt and how to get thinks to work if you follow the appdb link from their homepage
[07:08] <Lartza_> icesword: Trying to update SimCity 3000
[07:08] <Lartza_> when running the update it shows me that
[07:08] <mike_> cpkl: yeah because i do alot of vlog for viral video sites like you tube and run a some allright windows webcam progz i dont know if there are any that will support my built in webcam on linux
[07:09] <hfmls> hi
[07:09] <hfmls> i need some help please
[07:09] <neville_> Lartza_ Perhaps you should get help in #winehq ?
[07:09] <hfmls> just installed latest betaversion
[07:09] <icesword> hmm
[07:09] <hfmls> and my screen has a lot of bars
[07:09] <Lartza_> neville_: With linux game?
[07:09] <hfmls> black bars
[07:09] <hfmls> all over the screen
[07:10] <hfmls> i can see. but it seems like this: __ __ __ __ __
[07:10] <neville_> Oh, so it's the native version?
[07:10] <hfmls> አልል ኦቨር ትሀ ስችሬn
[07:10] <Lartza_> Yes
[07:10] <neville_> I never even knew there was one, sorry :P
[07:10] <Lartza_> np
[07:11] <hfmls> አነኦነ ?
[07:11] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lts-upgrades
[07:11] <geo125> anyone can help me...?
[07:11] <_2> what's a good .png viewer that can use svgalibs ?
[07:11] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSUpgrades
[07:12] <geo125> anyone can help me...?
[07:12] <Lartza_> How could I fix this: Updatetrap: 154: cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[07:12] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, what do u wanna tell me?
[07:12] <_2> geo125 not i.
[07:12] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: it looks like it is in planning
[07:13] <DrWho_989898> geo125: install the right driver ;)
[07:13] <hfmls> ቻን አንዮነ ረአድ ውሃት ኢ አም ውሪቲንግ ?
[07:13] <icesword> what the hell
[07:13] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, it's a blueprint, havent been implemented yet
[07:13] <vox> ever since one of the gnome updates a few weeks/months ago, i cant open any files directly with mplayer. i have to open mplayer, then tell mplayer to open the file manually, yet i dont have this issues with vlc or the like. Any ideas on what's causing this?
[07:13] <DrWho_989898> geo125: are card are you running?
[07:14] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: yes.  Now instead of saying "no you can't" you can tell people that it will hopefully be supported in the future
[07:14] <geo125> Drwho_989898 i have installed the driver
[07:14] <geo125> Drwho_989898 i have installed the driver its in use
[07:14] <ozzloy> how do install ngs-js, (available for dapper, edge, feist) on gutsy
[07:14] <ozzloy> ?
[07:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, that'd just confuse ppl
[07:14] <_2> vox sounds like an mplayer wrapper     file `which mplayer`
[07:15] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: no it won't
[07:15] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: it's better then misinforming people
[07:15] <geo125> DrWho_989898_: it sais : the composite extension is not available ...  what to do...??
[07:15] <DrWho_989898> geo125: indeed, however if it were the right driver you probably wouldn't have a problem with your compositor. so again. what card are you using?
[07:15] <vox> _2: /usr/bin/mplayer: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[07:15] <geo125> DrWho_989898_: ati
[07:15] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, if u think u r misinformed by me, im sorry
[07:15] <_2> vox hmmm ok. not a script.
[07:16] <DHowett> Is it possible (without breaking much) to forgo the ubuntu and debian manual kernel compilation styles and just do a -normal- kernel install, with make and make install && make modules_install? For what reasons (besides the lack of package management for it) would i not want to do this?
[07:16] <sepman18> technokrated1: i'll have old compaq video adapter, and this has only 64 mb of memory, it isn't enough for special effects
[07:16] <pajamian> mike_: I don't use a webcam so I can't help you there, but I would imagine that you would be able to find programs in Linux that use it.  As for wine, I can certainly give you some pointers there.
[07:16] <_2> vox i'd file a bug on mplayer.
[07:16] <ozzloy> or better yet, is there another interpreter for javascript i can get?
[07:16] <DrWho_989898> geo125: and when you said you had already installed the driver and it was using it which driver are you referring to?
[07:16] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> linuxboy, however i won't change my answer for that question unless it's official confirmed
[07:16] <geo125> DrWho_989898_: ati it sais that is installed
[07:17] <vox> _2: i dont think it's an mplayer bug, i have a feeling it's something to do with how nautilus handballs the request off to mplayer
[07:17] <_2> vox ???    terminal test it.
[07:17] <_2> leave naut out of the loop
[07:18] <DrWho_989898> geo125: ill be back in a sec
[07:18] <geo125> DrWho_989898_: i had the same problem in my previus installation of ubuntu and someone told me to write sth in terminal and thes restart the x and it workes
[07:18] <Lartza_> Bareword "SC3U" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.???
[07:19] <DHowett> Like.. I want to download a stock kernel source and install it. Any way i could get it to work with the package manager and things such as .. the auto-updated grub?
[07:19] <markt123> I'm updating to Gutsy. There is now signal of progress after 'might be long time downloading ...do you want to continue', there is little more in the logs.
[07:19] <markt123> How can I tell if it's doing anything? In top it shows memory usage.      ???????
[07:19] <geo125> DrWho_989898_: i had the same problem in my previus installation of ubuntu and someone told me to write something in terminal and then restart the x and it worked
[07:19] <Lartza_> How can I fix this? When renaming: Bareword "SC3U" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[07:20] <vox> _2: works fine from termnial
[07:20] <_2> vox if it's nauti then it's a config/mime type problem     /usr/bin/mailcap maybe.
[07:20] <_2> idk.
[07:20]  * _2 doesn't use nauti
[07:20] <Lartza_> How can I fix this? When renaming: Bareword "SC3U" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[07:20] <fdsjkalf> whens hardy coming out?
[07:20] <_2> 8 04
[07:21] <Tm_T> fdsjkalf: when ready
[07:21] <Tm_T> fdsjkalf: for more...
[07:21] <fdsjkalf> when ready? theres no scheduled date?
[07:21] <tmadsen> april 2008
[07:21] <pajamian> Lartza_: what are you trying to do?
[07:21] <Tm_T> !hardy | fdsjkalf
[07:21] <ubot3> fdsjkalf: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:21] <geo125> exit
[07:21] <Lartza_> pajamian: renaming folder
[07:21] <_2> /
[07:21] <Tm_T> fdsjkalf: 8.04 as 8 year 04 month
[07:21] <pajamian> Lartza_: with what command?
[07:21] <Lartza_> rename
[07:22] <pajamian> Lartza_: use mv instead
[07:22] <_2> hardy = 08.4  :)
[07:22] <Lartza_> thx
[07:22] <tritium> _2: 8.04, rather
[07:23] <_2> tritium same date :)
[07:23] <tritium> _2: but different nomenclature
[07:23] <_2> no
[07:23] <hfmls> hi
[07:23] <_2> leading zeros mean nothing on months/years/days
[07:23] <hfmls> first my ubuntu boots with a lots of black bars, i press ctrl+alt+backspace and all goes ok
[07:23] <tritium> _2: stay on topic, please
[07:24] <hfmls> but after updates give me an error
[07:24] <hfmls> sorry, update manager closed unexpectedly
[07:24] <_2> tritium does that == don't ever disagree with me ???
[07:24] <hfmls> what can it be ?
[07:24] <Finnish> Hello. My bluetooth-headphones started to "tick" suddenly. They were working ok, and suddenly they are just ticking
[07:24] <tritium> _2: no, it means what it means.
[07:24] <Finnish> Anyone heard this kind of thing?
[07:24] <pajamian> Lartza_: rename expects a perl regular expression, if you don't know what those are or how to use them use mv, not rename.
[07:25] <Lartza_> ok
[07:25] <marshall> hey guys
[07:25] <pajamian> ok, got to go, bbl
[07:25] <tritium> _2: and FYI, ubuntu does _not_ use leading zeroes on the year portion of the nomenclature for releases
[07:25] <hfmls> guys
[07:25] <hfmls> please anyne
[07:25] <mike_> i wonder if ubuntu will help me get aroud the blockpages at school =P
[07:26] <_2> is that on topic ?
[07:26] <hfmls> just formated my pc
[07:26] <tritium> _2: yes, as it's directly related to ubuntu
[07:26] <hfmls> and installed ubuntu.
[07:26] <hfmls> now i can't update it
[07:26] <marshall> i notice in almost everyone's screenshots, theyre running sonata. Id like to get it running myself but mpd is being pretty difficult. can anybody point me to a (recent) howto or walk me through setting up mpd?
[07:26] <DrWho_989898> geo125: still around?
[07:27] <hfmls> .. :S
[07:27] <hfmls> ok
[07:27] <hfmls> at least can anyone tell me how to fix a intaslation?
[07:27] <hfmls> sytem restore or so..
[07:28] <faileas> hfmls:what kind of error does it give?
[07:28] <hfmls> update manager
[07:28] <tritium> hfmls: what do you mean you can't update it?
[07:28] <hfmls> closed unexp.
[07:28] <loa> hello if my clipboard goes down, what can i do?
[07:28] <faileas> thats all?
[07:28] <hfmls> i was updating it, i unplugged laptop power without notice
[07:28] <hfmls> i boot again
[07:28] <tritium> hfmls: this is not IM.  Please try to write as much information as you can on one line, rather than hitting enter too often.
[07:28] <faileas> ahh
[07:29] <_2> !adeptcrashfix | hfmls
[07:29] <ubot3> hfmls: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:29] <hfmls> and it says update manager error l the time
[07:30] <_2> loa use xorg's copy paste feature ?    right click highlight    middle click paste
[07:31] <mdemocritus> any reason why a supposedly usb mass storage class device wouldn't show in the "computer" section? i've tried fdisk -l on all the /dev/sd* devices, no luck... lsusb -v shows the device, identifies the model and manufacturer, and says it's a mass storage device.... i'm stumped
[07:31] <hfmls> _2:  blak bars all over the screen
[07:31] <Lartza_> where I could get Loki compatibility libs
[07:31] <hfmls> any idea what could it be ?
[07:31] <Filled-Void> What would be the reason why AptOnCD wont backup certain packages (like KDE) which I have installed on my Ubuntu GG system ?
[07:31] <mdemocritus> it's a zoom hd16 multitrack digital recorder if that helps...
[07:32] <marshall> i notice in almost everyone's screenshots, theyre running sonata. Id like to get it running myself but mpd is being pretty difficult. can anybody point me to a (recent) howto or walk me through setting up mpd?
[07:32] <mkquist> anyone know why konversation would use a different resolution all of the sudden, different than the system?
[07:32] <_2> hfmls ummm kernel frame buffer and vidio/xorg driver conflicting ?
[07:32] <hfmls> dunno
[07:32] <hfmls> all worked well in 7.10
[07:32] <mkquist> i now this is ubuntu, but i can barely read this... =(
[07:32] <hfmls> i'm testint latest alpha
 can i assign it to ctrl+c and ctrl+v ?
[07:32] <_2> hfmls what vidio ?     ati ?
[07:32] <hfmls> intel
[07:32] <hfmls> onboard
[07:33] <hfmls> but the strange thing is
[07:33] <hfmls> i used alt+ctrl+backspace
[07:33] <_2> hfmls ummmm wait.   worked well in 7.10  but not in 8.4 ?
[07:33] <hfmls> and now is ok, but every time i boot, its like that
[07:33] <hfmls> yes
[07:33] <tritium> !enter | hfmls
[07:33] <ubot3> hfmls: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:33] <hfmls> ok, sorry
[07:34] <_2> yeah that still sounds like framebuffer and vid driver conflicting.   but.  this is not the channel for 8.4
[07:34] <_2> !hardy | hfmls
[07:34] <ubot3> hfmls: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:34] <hfmls> ok, can u tell me wich is ?
[07:34] <hfmls> ok,ank you
[07:34] <_2> lcome
[07:34] <mdemocritus> hmmm.... nobody's had issues with usb mass storage class devices that aren't regular hard drives?
[07:34] <vox> _2: it's weird. it seems to be something to do with the file name. if there's no spaces, mplayer will open it. if there are spaces, mplayer will open, but wont play the file, comes up with an error saying "unable to open $foo", but with %20 etc in stead of spaces
[07:35] <ere4si> mdemocritus, does it show with the command   df -h    ?
[07:35] <_2> vox "use more quotes"   something is not quoting filenames
[07:35] <hfmls> _2: after tha thing u told me
[07:35] <hfmls> i can pdate again ?
[07:35] <hfmls> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:35] <hfmls> after this
[07:36] <_2> yes should be able to.
[07:36] <hfmls> ok, gonna try
[07:36] <hfmls> yeah, its ok
[07:36] <hfmls> thank you :)
[07:36] <tritium> hfmls: you need to ask in #ubuntu+1 for hardy help, and please, !enter
[07:36] <_2> welcome.
[07:36] <Lartza_> How do I get fluxbox running?
[07:36] <Lartza_> When I chhose it on login it doesn't work
[07:36] <mdemocritus> ere4si: crap i didn't think about that... i'm not on the machine now, i was just trying to figure it out
[07:36] <_2> Lartza_ sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[07:37] <Lartza_> It sshows panel on bottom, but no desktop ora anything else
[07:37] <Lartza_> _2: done
[07:37] <mdemocritus> ere4si: any other suggestions
[07:37] <hfmls> guys where can i get this "theme" ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=o01m7uLaoHg
[07:37] <vox> _2: it's being passed as file:///location/to/the%20file%name.wut
[07:37] <_2> Lartza_ it "should" be an option in the gdm
[07:37] <ere4si> mdemocritus, if it shows up in there - just sudo mount it with its' label e.g sdc1
[07:37] <Lartza_> It is
[07:38] <_2> vox file a bug.
 can i assign it to ctrl+c and ctrl+v ?
[07:38] <phan70m21> hey all
[07:38] <Lartza_> But when i choose it show s the bottom panel with clock and ability to change workspaces
[07:38] <_2> !bug | vox
[07:38] <ubot3> vox: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[07:38] <Estesark> Is there a way I can queue commands in the terminal? For example, I'd like to run ffmpeg2theora on one file, then run it on another when the first is finished, etc.
[07:38] <mdemocritus> ere4si: what label would a usb disk get besides the /dev/sd? ones?
[07:39] <_2> Lartza_ yes  that's fluxbox's default.   are you asking how to configure fluxbox ?
[07:39] <ere4si> mdemocritus, mine is in mtab as sdb1...
[07:39] <Lartza_> I don't see my Desktop (/home/lartza/Desktop). Maybe yes
[07:40] <Alaerus> hey there.. who has the time and the nerves to answer me some questions about Ubuntu? :)
[07:40] <mdemocritus> ere4si: every time i've hooked up a usb drive to ubuntu or gentoo, it's on /dev/sd-something
[07:40] <Lartza_> Alareus: Me
[07:40] <SuperQ> !ask > Alaerus
[07:40] <Lartza_> Alareus: If I know the answer
[07:40] <steve176> Hi. I'm really struggling with environment variables and ssh. When I remotely connect to an Ubuntu 7.10 server, echo ${JAVA_HOME} shows /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun, but when I use ${JAVA_HOME} in a bash script it isn't set. Any ideas?
[07:40] <_2> Lartza_ it sounds like you are asking about configuring fluxbox rather than getting it running.   and i can't really help with that.   read the documentation on the site ?
[07:40] <ere4si> mdemocritus, it should be from my experience
[07:40] <steve176> I've set JAVA_HOME in both /etc/environment and /etc/profile and rebooted
[07:40] <Lartza_> Ill try that
[07:40] <mdemocritus> ere4si: is there any more involved usb diagnostic tools that you know of?
[07:40] <marshall> i notice in almost everyone's screenshots, theyre running sonata. Id like to get it running myself but mpd is being pretty difficult. can anybody point me to a (recent) howto or walk me through setting up mpd?
[07:41] <tritium> marshall: repeating won't really help
[07:41] <w3lshrarebit> I feel really weird asking this, but does any one know of any documentation on wubi that is GFDL or creative commons?
[07:41] <ere4si> mdemocritus, a check that hal is running as a service is what I'd do first
[07:41] <_2> Alaerus can't answer what you don't ask...     well we could.... but that helps nothing.
[07:42] <SuperQ> steve176: put it in .bashrc
[07:42] <mdemocritus> ere4si: i'm pretty sure it is... a regular usb drive works
[07:42] <neo_> i gave     sudo chattr +i /etc/hosts         command    to /etc/hosts file     how can i revert back the permisions
[07:42] <SuperQ> steve176: or in /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:42] <_2> ere4si pidof hald ?
[07:43] <Alaerus> I am using fujitsu-siemens amilo pro v3505 .. it uses dual processors Intel centrion duo.. but not 2 o will it automatically reduces the frequency of the second processor like Windows does?
[07:43] <neo_> i gave     sudo chattr +i /etc/hosts         command    to /etc/hosts file     how can i revert back the permisions
[07:43] <Alaerus> another question.. when I install Ubuntu will it automatically recognize my Intel pro wireless 3945ABG adapter and will I be able to use my wi-fi button :)
[07:43] <Lartza_> How do I configure Fluxbox?
[07:43] <tritium> Alaerus: yes, ipw is well supported
[07:43] <faileas> Alaerus: yes, and probably
[07:43] <_2> neo_ -i
[07:43] <ere4si> mdemocritus, if a regular usb stick automounts but your particular one doesn't then I'm not sure what to suggest except manul mount - sorry :)
[07:43] <SuperQ> Alaerus: yes
[07:43] <_2> neo_ man chattr would have told you that
[07:43] <w3lshrarebit> wubi, a.k.a. the windows installer.exe for ubuntu?
[07:44] <SuperQ> Alaerus: Ubuntu should automatically use frequency scaling
[07:44] <steve176> SuperQ: OK, rebooting now
[07:44] <SuperQ> steve176: you don't need to reboot
[07:44] <faileas> w3lshrarebit: i'd think the documentation for wubi would be some open source licence
[07:44] <Lartza_> How do I configure Fluxbox?
[07:44] <SuperQ> steve176: you almost never need to reboot Ubuntu
[07:44] <mdemocritus> ere4si: rats.... thanks for the effort though
[07:44] <ere4si> k
[07:44] <w3lshrarebit> You'd think, but no :(
[07:44] <Alaerus> thanks .. if I have more question I will just ask
[07:44] <steve176> SuperQ: I added it and re-ran my script, but still now output. I hadn't sourced /etc/bash.bashrc though
[07:45] <w3lshrarebit> it
[07:45] <steve176> SuperQ: Environment variables seem really odd on the server platform. I have no problem if I just add them to /etc/envrionment on my desktop
[07:45] <SuperQ> yes, source /etc/bash.bashrc should work
[07:45] <w3lshrarebit> 's owned by cononical
[07:45] <SuperQ> steve176: there really isn't a difference
[07:45] <faileas> odd
[07:45] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: google is your friend... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+configure+fluxbox&btnG=Google+Search
[07:45] <SuperQ> steve176: I'm not sure why you're having problems with server
[07:46]  * faileas thought wubi was a independant project
[07:46] <steve176> SuperQ: Also if I log on locally to the server the scripts work fine. It's only when I log on via ssh there's a problem
[07:46] <SuperQ> steve176: server and desktop are basically identical in Ubuntu
[07:46] <SuperQ> steve176: that's not normal
[07:46] <steve176> SuperQ: It's a clean install, re-installed several times
[07:46] <SuperQ> atleast, I don't think it's normal
[07:46] <steve176> SuperQ: It's driving me up the wall!
[07:46] <SuperQ> heh
[07:46] <Lartza_> mdemocritus: I just seeked Fluxboc documentation :D
[07:46] <SuperQ> are you using export?
[07:47] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: also, that question is WAY too open ended... probably why you weren't getting any responses
[07:47] <steve176> SuperQ: didn't work
[07:47] <w3lshrarebit> yeah! That's why I'm looking for a blog post or such
[07:47] <Alaerus> is there some documentation how to prepare my hdd for the installation?
[07:47] <SuperQ> steve176: sorry, not sure what the deal is
[07:48] <quicksilver_> Hello, does anybody have a few minutes to help me with what I think is an xorg.conf issue?
[07:48] <SuperQ> steve176: ~/.bashrc always works for me
[07:48] <Lartza_> mdeomcritus: I just see the bottom panel with clock and workspace cahnging ability when using fulxbox
[07:48] <SuperQ> steve176: oh!
[07:48] <w3lshrarebit> the .org page is copyrighted too
[07:48] <steve176> SuperQ: was NAME=VALUE OK or should I have put export NAME=VALUE
[07:48] <SuperQ> steve176: are you using #!/bin/sh?
[07:48] <SuperQ> steve176: in your script?
[07:48] <steve176> SuperQ: yes
[07:48] <SuperQ> sh != bash
[07:48] <SuperQ> sh == dash
[07:48] <SuperQ> use #!/bin/bash
[07:48] <_2> Alaerus are you installing beside another os ?   or clean disk ?
[07:49] <steve176> SuperQ: sorry, I meant I'm using #!/bin/bash
[07:49] <SuperQ> arg
[07:49] <Alaerus> _2, clean but maybe I might install XP later
[07:49] <Alaerus> and I want to keep the D partition of my hdd
[07:50] <ere4si> steve176, I set up my flux desktop with google for each issue - there's lots on the net - what's your present issue
[07:50] <fdsjkalf> ubuntu is lots of fun
[07:50] <mdemocritus> lartza_, nothing else? that's pretty strange... as i haven't played with fluxbox, i wouldn't really know where to start, but try right clicking on the desktop or the bottom panel, or kill and restart X with the combination ctrl+alt+backspace... if that doesn't get you anywhere, i'm out of ideas
[07:50] <quicksilver_> Ive just installed ubuntu 7.10, did all the updates, am using the restricted nvidia drivers, and made my second screen a 'twin view'.... But as soon as I saved the changes to xorg.conf and rebooted, my system halts on boot until I hit 'ctrl+alt+del'... It then boots into Gnome, but it didnt mount my other 2 drives as it had before... Any ideas? Im thinking taking xorg.conf back will do the trick.
[07:51] <_2> Alaerus ummm i would sujest making a partition for the M$ install first.  giving M$ the first primary partition or it will cry you a river.    also the installer (ubiquity) will run gparted for you durring install allowing you to repartition the disk.
[07:51] <coz_> quicksilver_, did you try writing to xorg from nvidia settings?
[07:51] <Lartza_> mdemocritus: there is problem with the gutsy fluxbox that the rightclick menu doesnt work :D thats why i searched help. I have used fluxbox previously with DSL
[07:51] <steve176> ere4si: Environment variables don't work when I log in via ssh to my Ubuntu 7.10 server - same problem as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586993
[07:51] <ToastGuy_> I have a series of commands I need to execute using a on a schedule... I understand I will use a cron job to execute the schedule... what do I do about the commands?
[07:51] <quicksilver_> coz_: Yeah, thats how I made it the twin view in the first place.
[07:52] <ToastGuy_> I know in windows it would be something like a Batch file
[07:52] <Lartza_> just need to run sudo update-menus in gnome, kde or xfce
[07:52] <quicksilver_> coz_: I think thats how this problem started.
[07:52] <geirha> steve176: there's a difference on how you run the script. If you run it locally, you run it in an interactive shell. If you run it with ssh like "ssh foo@host command" It's non-interactive and won't read the same config-files
[07:52] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: well then... alt-f2 do anything?
[07:52] <coz_> quicksilver_, I have never had luck with nvidia settings writing to xorg  but then I always  enable twinview manually after logging in just incase I have an application or game that doesn like twinview
[07:52] <JonathanEllis> Hi. Does anyone know how I can copy a package from one machine to another? I am trying to install sun-java5-jre but one of the packages wont download. I get the error message "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libj/libjgoodies-forms-java/libjgoodies-forms-java_1.0.5-5_all.deb Size mismatch". Thing is I have already installed this on my other PC so if I could just copy it, it should work. Any ideas please?
[07:52] <_2> Alaerus there are as many sujestion on how to set up your hd space as their users.  but most will agree that a seperate / (root)  and /home (user_space) partitions are a good idea.
[07:52] <coz_> quicksilver_, I prefer haveing choices
[07:53] <neo_> can i install new scrrensavers for linux
[07:53] <slytherin> has anyone ever done FireWire to FireWire ad-hoc networking in Ubuntu? Is is managable with network-manager? What kind of cable is required?
[07:53] <Lartza_> mdeomcritus: It doesn't! WHy are everyone saying it???(I'm on gnome now
[07:53] <coz_> neo_, ubuntu?
[07:53] <geirha> steve176: your best bet is probably to source the file that contains the export JAVA_HOME line. You do that with dot-space. I.e. ". ~/.bashrc"
[07:53] <Lartza_> on me its ctrl+alt+f2
[07:53] <quicksilver_> coz_: So any ideas on how to take it back to how I had it before?
[07:54] <Lartza_> I found good tut how to configure fluxbox, thanks to you.
[07:54] <coz_> quicksilver_, did you check in the xorg.conf to see if indeed nvidia wrote anything there?
[07:54] <ere4si> steve176, Am I right in the assumption that you want the environmentals from your box to be used on the one you ssh to?
[07:54] <ToastGuy_> I have a series of commands I need to execute using a on a schedule... I understand I will use a cron job to execute the schedule... what do I do about the commands? I know in windows it would be something like a Batch file. Any ideas?
[07:54] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: i'm glad... best of luck to you
[07:54] <neo_> any new scrreensaver for ubuntu? if yes whre can i found it    and how to install???
[07:54] <steve176> ere4si no
[07:54] <Lartza_> How much does ubuntu install take?
[07:54] <slytherin> neo_: What is wrong with in built ones?
[07:55] <quicksilver_> coz_: I see that there is a .backup file, but Im not sure if I should try to rename it..... The backup file is also made by nvidia settings.
[07:55] <Lartza_> And what would be good hdd format when ubuntu windows shared?
[07:55] <_2> neo_ the 300 installed screensavers aren't enough ?
[07:55] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: a simple shell script does the same thing as a batch file...
[07:55] <faileas> Lartza_: depends on what set of packages you pick
[07:55] <ere4si> steve176, then simply - what do you want that most don't seem to?
[07:55] <quicksilver_> It there somewhere that I can find the xorg.conf file that was default on install?
[07:55] <Lartza_> faileas: clean install
[07:55] <neo_> i like the    dog liking screensaver   can i obtain same for ubuntu?????
[07:55] <zoli2k> Hi! I need to setup a Linux router with external 195.146.149.73 but with transport layer Ip 87.197.249.46. How to do this?
[07:55] <ToastGuy_> mdemocritus: ah, Shell Script... I've heard that term before... thanks
[07:55] <coz_> quicksilver_, you could try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  as a last resort  but check again in xorg to see what was changes first
[07:55] <steve176> ere4si: I have a remote server. I want to set up some environment variables on the remote server. Usually I would do this be adding them to the remote servers /etc/environment file. This doesn't work...
[07:55] <faileas> Lartza_: i'd go for FAT32 or NTFS. Linux has better support for those than windows for ext3
[07:55] <slytherin> Lartza_: default desktop install is around 2 GB. You should find requirements in the documentation on CD
[07:55] <vircuser> Hi, does anyone have some experience with the OEM installer?
[07:55] <steve176> ere4si: By doesn't work i mean...
[07:56] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: i would use ext3 since there's a program for windows that supports ext3
[07:56] <ToastGuy_> mdemocritus: are there a GUI for creating a cron job in ubuntu?
[07:56] <_2> neo_ i personally like setting up a slide_show of all my pictures.
[07:56] <ToastGuy_> is there*
[07:56] <quicksilver_> coz_: what does that do? Im really new to xorg.conf, and I dont think I could notice what changed.
[07:56] <Lartza_> WHich does linux and win support better together? fat32 or ntfs
[07:56] <Lartza_> i know linux supports ntfs but better than fat32?
[07:56] <_2> neo_ that's native and simple to do.
[07:56] <vircuser> fat32
[07:56] <steve176> ere4si: If I physically log onto the box, the variables are set from both the shell and when I run scripts. If I log on remotely they are only set in the shell
[07:56] <mdemocritus> Lartza_: the program is called ext2fsd, the first link on a google search
[07:57] <slytherin> Lartza_: please don't install Ubuntu on fat32. You will face problems later
[07:57] <coz_> quicksilver_, ok  go to http://pastebin.ca   paste the contents of /etc/ X11/xorg.conf   hit the submit button and paste the link it gives you here
[07:57] <steve176> ere4si: It's basically presenting me from starting my app server remotely
[07:57] <steve176> ere4si: presenting -> preventing
[07:57] <quicksilver_> Ok :)
[07:57] <_2> Lartza_ vfat   but there is a file size limit there   2g
[07:57] <vircuser> fat32 support under linux was stable long before ntfs support
[07:57] <ere4si> steve176, I can only suggest the best place for that would be asking in #ubuntu-server
[07:57] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: i would imagine there's several, but i don't know any off the top of my head
[07:57] <neo_> _2:: any help???
[07:57] <steve176> ere4si: didn't know about that forum. Will do. thx
[07:57] <vircuser> for linux itself use a linux file system
[07:57] <Lartza_> I will install windows to ntfs fat32 partition and have one fat32 or ntfs empty partiton and install linux to different hd with ext3
[07:58] <ere4si> steve176,  lots of luck with it :)
[07:58] <vircuser> for data storage I use fat32, so it can be accessed by different OSes
[07:58] <ToastGuy> Where would i look?
[07:58] <Lartza_> the empty partiton is my concern
[07:58] <ere4si> bbl
[07:58] <slytherin> neo_: If you are looking for linux version of a particular screensaver then you should ask the person who created it.
[07:58] <quicksilver_> coz_: http://pastebin.ca/937862
[07:58] <Lartza_> So I will use fat32 for shared hd?
[07:58] <Lartza_> ok
[07:58] <coz_> quicksilver_, ok looking hold on
[07:58] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: try searching in the synaptic package manager or add/remove for cron
[07:58] <slytherin> Lartza_: yes, fat32 is always better as shared hd
[07:58] <vircuser> it has no rights management though
[07:58] <faileas> Lartza_: personally i go EXT3 for linux, NTFS for windows, and either NTFS or FAT32 for shared. my windows systems always have a ext driver installed as well tho, in case
[07:58] <ToastGuy> ok thanks
[07:59] <geirha> steve176: add this to the start of the script: . /etc/environment
[07:59] <mdemocritus> ext2fsd had become really mature
[07:59] <JonathanEllis> Hi. Does anyone know how I can copy a package from one machine to another? I am trying to install sun-java5-jre but one of the packages wont download. I get the error message "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libj/libjgoodies-forms-java/libjgoodies-forms-java_1.0.5-5_all.deb Size mismatch". Thing is I have already installed this on my other PC so if I could just copy it, it should work. Any ideas please?
[07:59] <coz_> neo_,   if you are on ubuntu  open synaptic pacakge manager and search for xscreensaver there will be extra screensaver packages there
[07:59] <Alaerus> I found using google that people had problems with their intel wireless 3945ABG adapter :(
[07:59] <Lartza_> And windows should be installed before ubuntu, thats what ive heard
[07:59] <vircuser> don't know about performance, but I'd wager it's one of the fastest
[07:59] <Lartza_> and then you need to configure grub to boot windows
[07:59] <vircuser> because of its simplicity
[07:59] <_2> !info cron
[07:59] <faileas> Alaerus: i'm on one now, no real problem
[07:59] <ubot3> cron: management of regular background processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.0pl1-100ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 316 kB
[07:59] <Lartza_> now the only problem is to get winxp pro install cd :D
[07:59] <faileas> Lartza_: install linux after windows, and there will be no problem
[08:00] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: simple shell scripting is really easy... create a file, add the commands, one per line, and make sure the file has execute permissions
[08:00] <Lartza_> faileas: will grub auto recognize windows partition and put it to the list?
[08:00] <faileas> Lartza_: sure will
[08:00] <slytherin> ToastGuy: check gcrontab if you must use GUI. But it uses old version of GTK wo will look out of place in current GNOME desktop
[08:00] <ToastGuy> mdemocritus: lol.. almost too easy... any convensions I should know about?
[08:00] <Alaerus> faileas, but does it worked right away when you installed Ubuntu?
[08:00] <dirkg3nt1y> RoadHazard: no
[08:00] <slytherin> Lartza_: yes
[08:00] <Alaerus> did it*
[08:00] <Lartza_> Nice!
[08:00] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: add "#!/bin/bash" or "#!/bin/sh" to the top of the file (without quotes)
[08:00] <Lartza_> Now only the windows cd
[08:00] <RoadHazard> dirkg3nt1y: no?
[08:01] <Lartza_> I don't want to install 98
[08:01] <dirkg3nt1y> hi gang
[08:01] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: you can use regular expressions and logic and all that complicated bs, but if you just want to run a few commands at once, there's nothing special to do
[08:01] <slytherin> Alaerus: as far as I know it works out of box
[08:01] <Lartza_> Should I first upgrade ram or cpu on my computer? Ram 256 and cpu 800mhz
[08:01] <faileas> Alaerus: yup
[08:02] <faileas> Lartza_: CPU IMHO
[08:02] <slytherin> Lartza_: that is enough for Ubuntu. I will not talk about XP. :-P
[08:02] <ToastGuy> slytherin: I must use GUI because I have too many things I'm learning right now unless you can give me a line command or a website you would recommend on setting up a cron job
[08:02] <geirha> ToastGuy, mdemocritus: #!/bin/bash, NOT #!/bin/sh ... they are not identical
[08:02] <coz_> quicksilver_,  well it looks like nvidia settings indeed wrote to the xorg  in the last section  Section "Screen"  you can most likely comment that section with #  and restart x  to see if it goes to normal single monitor use  if not you wil have to remove the   #  you place there in text console if it doesn boot and y ou do that with  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     do you know how to do t hat/
[08:02] <Lartza_> IMHO?
[08:02] <faileas> in my humble opinion
[08:02] <faileas> 256 mb is sufficient
[08:02] <faileas> 800 MHZ is rather slow
[08:02] <ToastGuy> geirha: what would I use that for?
[08:02] <mdemocritus> geirha, i'm aware, but if you're just using explicit commands, there's pretty much equivalent
[08:03] <quicksilver_> coz_: Yeah, I can do that.
[08:03] <Lartza_> I have and starnge comp :D 800mhz cpu 256ram and 128mb gfx :D
[08:03] <quicksilver_> Thanks for the help!
[08:03] <slytherin> ToastGuy: I haven't set up many cron jobs, so can't recommend any site. But I believe 'man crontab' is good as startup resource
[08:03] <quicksilver_> Hopefully it works.
[08:03] <coz_> quicksilver_, you know how to do the nano  in text console?
[08:03] <Lartza_> faileas: well i still have one 500mhz ibm comp
[08:03] <quicksilver_> I use vi, but its accomplishes the same thing.
[08:03] <ToastGuy> slytherin:  .. of course...
[08:03] <ToastGuy> thanks
[08:03] <geirha> ToastGuy: if you intend to create a shell script, that should be the first line. It tells ubuntu what interpreter to use
[08:03] <faileas> Lartza_: i have a dual PII 350 mhz ;p
[08:04] <coz_> quicksilver_, ok just go slow with it and test that commented section to see if that works
[08:04] <geirha> mdemocritus: Yes, but it saves you from surprises when you suddenly use some bash-specific syntax
[08:04] <Lartza_> wow
[08:04] <coz_> oi
[08:04] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: here's a really nice guide for shell scripting http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[08:04] <Lartza_> I installed debian to he 500mhz but havent got it work yet
[08:04] <ToastGuy> geirha:  so use  #!/bin/bash?
[08:04] <mdemocritus> geirha: indeed
[08:04] <Lartza_> ubuntu livecd didnt boot :P
[08:04] <faileas> 512 mb ram, i also have a 1 GHZ PIII with 1.5 gigs ram, running kubuntu
[08:04] <quicksilver_> Ok :) Ill be back soon to tell you if it worked. :)
[08:04] <faileas> Lartza_: for older systems, you want to use the alternate installer CD
[08:05] <riton> <Lartza
[08:05] <Lartza_> faileas: Nah, i used debian netinstall
[08:05] <slytherin> Lartza_: yes, don't use livecd for old systems. use alternate cd.
[08:05] <faileas> lol
[08:05] <Lartza_> with floppies :)
[08:05] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: yes, as long as the systems you'll be running it on all have bash... nearly all linux distros have it
[08:05] <faileas> netinstalls tend to be slow
[08:05]  * faileas dosen't like em
[08:05] <riton> Lartza_ : did u try alternate version of Ubuntu?
[08:05] <Lartza_> Minimal install without desktop it took 3 hours
[08:05] <slytherin> Lartza_: and you may also want to try xfce desktop in case gnome is too slow on your machine
[08:05] <ToastGuy> mdemocritus: ya... I have bash
[08:05] <Lartza_> riton: I don't have one
[08:05] <geirha> ToastGuy: yes, on the first line
[08:05] <faileas> speaking of which
[08:05] <Lartza_> slytherin: I installed fluxbox to it
[08:06] <Lartza_> but havent got x running because of my noobiness(no i know its startx)
[08:06] <ToastGuy> geirha: almost like a cgi-script
[08:06] <slytherin> Lartza_: you installed fluxbox and you call yourself noob?
[08:06] <Alaerus> will I be able to use my wi-fi switch to turn it on and off and will Ubunti recognize my flash cards.. and my Nokia in data mode? :)
[08:06] <Lartza_> slytherin:How do you mean?
[08:07] <Lartza_> Well I'm not that n00b
[08:07] <faileas> Alaerus: yes, probably, no idea
[08:07] <Lartza_> I have almost full apache server running :D
[08:07] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: check out that link i gave if you want to do more complicated stuff than just run explicit commands... bash is very powerful at scripting... cgi uses perl, which is another scripting language, hence the similarities
[08:07] <slytherin> Alaerus: 1. yes 1. depends on if your card reader is supported. Texas Instruments are usually supported. 3. Yes.
[08:07] <macogw> mdemocritus: there are cgi modules for python as well
[08:08] <faileas> ricoh card readers work as well
[08:08] <ToastGuy> mdemocritus: Ya... I already worked on the command... It's just like executing a command from the terminal right?
[08:08] <mdemocritus> d'oh... there i go with my assumptions...
[08:08] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: right
[08:08] <Alaerus> okay, I am using intel 945gm video card.. is it easy to connect external monitor or a projector?
[08:08] <macogw> Alaerus: in a month, yes
[08:08] <slytherin> Lartza_: what I mean is 'noobs don't know what fluxbox is'. :-) And since you have used Debian at some point of time Ubuntu should not be too difficult to you
[08:09] <macogw> Alaerus: the new release supports it instantly
[08:09] <Lartza_> I haven't used debian
[08:09] <Lartza_> Ubuntu two years
[08:09] <slytherin> Alaerus: Not that easy, but in a month it will be
[08:09] <macogw> Alaerus: using the intel driver (instead of i810) on the current one... ummm...probably
[08:09] <Lartza_> and DSL as SUB and qemu on windows a month
[08:09] <Lartza_> Didn't get fluxbox run on debian
[08:09] <slytherin> Lartza_: Oh, Since you were asking about dual boot Ithought it was your first time
[08:09] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: if you're not using bash syntax, technically you don't need the bang at the top (#!/bin/bash), but get in the habit of it, as it is good practive
[08:09] <Lartza_> slytherin: First time with dualboot :D
[08:09] <steve176> geirha: thx. I'd really like to avoid doing things on a script by script basis. There surely has to be a way to get scripts to pick up environment variables.
[08:09] <mdemocritus> practice*
[08:10] <Lartza_> I have thought about installing windows and reinstallin gubuntu to this comp
[08:10] <eifzon> If I wanna user reiserfs as filesystem type, chall I choose any mount options then?
[08:11] <ToastGuy> mdemocritus: ya... i'm so used to using bash commands... that i wouldn't know when I wasn't using one
[08:11] <hfmls> hi, i'm trying to download latest version of x-chat but in synptic allways shows an outdated version. i want the one with "yellow" ِِicon
[08:11] <slytherin> eifzon: if you don't know by now, then you probably shouldn't use it. :-)
[08:12] <Lartza_> hfmls: What version numbers?
[08:12] <eifzon> slytherin: do I even need mount options :P
[08:12] <Lartza_> hfmls: I'm using apt-get xchat now
[08:12] <mdemocritus> steve176: i'm not sure if there's a nicer way, but piping echo $VARIABLE to another command or something should work
[08:12] <hfmls> i have 1.0.18
[08:12] <hfmls> i want the latest
[08:12] <slytherin> eifzon: probably not but Ihave never used reiserfs
[08:12] <leau2001> hi, i ve a bug with my ubuntu python IDLE for python 2.5 can't use open file -->crash
[08:12] <mjohn> how much disk space is needed for all-dirs-but-home these days?
[08:12] <Lartza_> I have 2.8.4
[08:12] <hfmls> ok, brb gonna try apt-get
[08:12] <Lartza_> Install xchat
[08:12] <Lartza_> dont install xchat-gnome
[08:13] <Lartza_> or gnome-xchat
[08:13] <ToastGuy> i have xchat
[08:13] <slytherin> hfmls: Not every version of application is packaged in Ubuntu. If you are using old version of Ubuntu. It is better to upgrade to newer version.
[08:13] <hfmls> how do i do a search ?
[08:13] <Lartza_> You have gutsy?
[08:13] <faileas> hfmls: apt-cache search foo
[08:13] <hfmls> in command
[08:13] <hfmls> ok
[08:14] <faileas> then if you find something interesting its sudo apt-get install
[08:14] <Lartza_> go sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome xchat-gnome-common
[08:14] <Lartza_> and then sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:14] <Lartza_> do not go
[08:15] <hfmls> brb
[08:15] <Lartza_> gutsy has 2.8.4 and newest is 2.8.5
[08:15] <Lartza_> oh
[08:15] <Lartza_> i thught xchat wasn't free
[08:15] <Lartza_> on windows
[08:15] <mdemocritus> mjohn: it really depends on how bloated you're going to allow the system to get
[08:15] <hfmls> yeah, that's the one :)
[08:15] <hfmls> tx
[08:16] <slytherin> Lartza_: it is Free but not free AFAIK
[08:16] <vircuser> does anyone know how to modify the oem-config startup script so the end user won't need to choose a language anymore, but instead it defaults to one specified by the maker?
[08:16] <Lartza_> Oh it isnt free
[08:16] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-e7f287c730b93116f89de7ea7e05efbe95fa6dd1
[08:16] <hfmls> does anybody opneed youtube linki paste here? i want to know pls who can i use that theme, colors, etc ..
[08:16] <wyattc> Does anyone here know why :set ruler wouldn't be turning the ruler on in vim?
[08:16] <linuxboy> [Hardy]TuTUXG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSUpgradesHowto
[08:16] <wyattc> Google doesn't seem to know
[08:17] <mdemocritus> hfmls: i did...
[08:17] <hfmls> http://youtube.com/watch?v=o01m7uLaoHg how can i use this colors, theme ?
[08:17] <slytherin> hfmls: no sms speak please. please plain english
[08:17] <hfmls> mdemocritus,  do u know how ?
[08:17] <geirha> steve176: I actually wasn't aware of /etc/environment untill now. I've done a little search, and /etc/environment is not read in any part of the login process. It's read by gdm, and inherited to the xsession from there, so that file you really need to source yourself
[08:17] <slytherin> wyattc: probably you have vim-tiny installed. you need vim-full
[08:17] <mdemocritus> hfmls: are you talking about compiz or just the colors?
[08:17] <Lartza_> aww... xchat produces mainly the windows version >:I
[08:17] <wyattc> slytherin: Is vim-tiny default on Gutsy?
[08:17] <hfmls> that colors and dockbar, etc
[08:18] <mdemocritus> hfmls: compiz is the pretty cube effects
[08:18] <hfmls> no, i don't want the cube.
[08:18] <slytherin> wyattc: yes, duw to space constraint on CD
[08:18] <lordleemo> hfmls: serch google for chrome look or try http://www.gnome-look.org/
[08:18] <wyattc> Ah! Excellent. Thank you greatly.
[08:18] <Lartza_> i hate my system
[08:18] <Lartza_> i have messd it up :(
[08:18] <ionstorm> how so
[08:19] <Lartza_> cant use themes the way they are meant to
[08:19] <Lartza_> i have icewm as wm
[08:19] <ionstorm> ah
[08:19] <Lartza_> and gnome as panel
[08:19] <mdemocritus> hfmls: ah... the dock is some package... i forget which... check synaptic or add/remove, search for "mac program dock" or something
[08:19] <JonathanEllis> Hi. Does anyone know how I can copy a package from one machine to another? I am trying to install sun-java5-jre but one of the packages wont download. I get the error message "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libj/libjgoodies-forms-java/libjgoodies-forms-java_1.0.5-5_all.deb Size mismatch". Thing is I have already installed this on my other PC so if I could just copy it, it should work. Any ideas please?
[08:19] <Lartza_> and dont know ho wto switch back to metacity :(
[08:19] <a^^nnnn> Hi, how can i add a use to volume group.. Coz i am unable to hear volume on my existing user.. While on root i can!
[08:19] <RoadHazard> lartza metacity --replace
[08:19] <Lartza_> Unable to open X display.
[08:20] <Lartza_> And I want it full time back to meatacity
[08:20] <Lartza_> what file contains the used gnome wm?
[08:20] <slytherin> JonathanEllis: There is no reason why Sun JRE should install jgoodies package. I think you have some other package marked for installation.
[08:21] <Lartza_> or where i can configure the thinsg that start after login? nautilus etc.
[08:21] <geirha> Lartza_: system -> preferences -> sessions
[08:21] <steve176> geirha: That makes sense. I've been using /etc/environment for my desktop and it worked fine, but was completely ignored by server. With /etc/environment you don't use 'export'. When I tried adding the variables to /etc/profile I didn't realise I should also have been exporting them. Now everything works fine. thx
[08:21] <a^^nnnn> Hi, how can i add a use to volume group.. Coz i am unable to hear volume on my existing user.. While on root i can!
[08:22] <ToastGuy> mdemocritus: how do you execute a shell script?
[08:22] <slytherin> jonasbjork: apart from that, the downloaded packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory. So you can copy them from one PC to another.
[08:22] <wyattc> a^^nnnn: Is it possible you just have some issue with your permissions somewhere?
[08:22] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: cd to the directory and run ./script.bash or whatever, or run it with the absolute path
[08:23] <Lartza_> What file contains the gnome wm preference?
[08:23] <wyattc> Like with your audio driver or device permissions?
[08:23] <hfmls> mdemocritus,  i've download a theme, if i tell wich files i have can u tell me pls how can i manually install it ?
[08:23] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: volume or sound? I don't think you need to specifically add user to group for listening to songs. Check if in case the speaker is mute. Check the speaker icon in panel.
[08:23] <geirha> ToastGuy: if you haven't made it executable, you can run it with: bash script.bash
[08:24] <a^^nnnn> wyattc, slytherin i am not able to open that icon.. its giving the error.
[08:24] <ToastGuy> geirha: Actually I think I got it... I ran it using..... SH myscript
[08:24] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: what error?
[08:24] <wyattc> what error does it give
[08:24] <mdemocritus> hfmls: unfortunately i haven't messed with themes, and besides it's different for gnome... i'm running kubuntu these days, so i don't even have the same interface as you... try googling ubuntu theme install
[08:24] <a^^nnnn> and last i added my new user in that group, then iwas able to listen.. let me tell you ther eror
[08:25] <hfmls> ok, tx
[08:25] <lordleemo> hfmls: avant windows navigator or awn is the dock see here https://launchpad.net/awn
[08:25] <Lartza_> I found it!
[08:25] <geirha> Lartza_: you metacity's configuration? you don't want to edit those files manually. Run gconf-editor and edit it from there
[08:25] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, No volume control GStreamer plugin found.
[08:25] <Lartza_> ~/.gnome2/session
[08:25] <slytherin> lordleemo: he is asking about themes why are you telling him about awn?
[08:26] <Lartza_> 0,RestartCommand=icewm
[08:26] <stefano> is anyone of you into networking at all? (ip, zeroconf and wireless, not seccesarily ubuntu only)
[08:26] <hfmls> err, i don't even know where can i change themes in ubuntu
[08:26] <hfmls> lo
[08:26] <mdemocritus> ToastGuy_: to make it executable, the command is chmod u+x /path/to/file.bash
[08:26] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, error "No volume control GStreamer plugin found"
[08:26] <Lartza_> whats what i cahnged when installed icewm
[08:26] <lordleemo> slytherin: he wants the chrome theme and awn
[08:26] <slytherin> hfmls: ARe you afraid of clicking on menus?
[08:26] <hfmls> lalready did. can't find it, or i am blind
[08:26] <lordleemo> slytherin: as shown on his google video link
[08:26] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, ech and every thing is installed. coz i am able to listen music on the other users. but not on this new user.
[08:26] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: Strange. never heard of that error before.
[08:27] <stefano> hfmls, check under the "appearance" menu ;-)
[08:27] <hfmls> forget it.... it says appearence. :S
[08:27] <wyattc> a^^nnnn have you googled that?
[08:27] <Lartza_> Can't find the configuration in gconf-editor
[08:27] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, can you please tell me the group for volume?
[08:27] <mdemocritus> hfmls: i think its in themes or windows or something like that... in the prefrences or system menu
[08:27] <mdemocritus> hfmls: aha
[08:27] <a^^nnnn> wyattc, Yes.
[08:27] <a^^nnnn> wyattc, No success for that.
[08:27] <mdemocritus> stefano: what's the problem
[08:27] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: is it ok if I tell you GUImethod?
[08:28] <hfmls> done, wii theme black or something.
[08:28] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, Yes
[08:28] <Lartza_> geirha: window manager can't be changed from gconf-editor
[08:28] <wyattc> a^^nnnn: Indeed, I just googled, very obscure
[08:28] <mdemocritus> stefano: i actually work networking tech support, as it happens :D
[08:28] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: System -> Administration -> User And Groups. Select the user, click on properties and then user privileges
[08:28] <stefano> mdemocritus, i want to host a fairly large network for about a week (ad hoc). it consists of linux, windows, mac machines, connected via wireless and wired networks. and i want to use zeroconf for that, i wonder if that would be a good idea. any thoughts?
[08:29] <mdemocritus> huh
[08:29] <a^^nnnn> slytherin,  there is no user group in administrator.... Using gutsy
[08:29] <geirha> Lartza_: I probably misinterpreted your previous question, thought you meant the configuration of the current window manager, not which window manager to use
[08:29] <hfmls> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OrangeLiNstaBlackPlastic?content=62434 this one is really nice
[08:29] <Lartza_> okl
[08:29] <mdemocritus> stefano: how large are we talking? like 50 or 500 machines?
[08:29] <stefano> mdemocritus, more like 50
[08:30] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: Can you tell me what all menus you have in System->Administration?
[08:30] <mdemocritus> stefano: hmmm... your best bet would probably get a decent wireless router with a fast cpu clock, and slap one of the small versions of dd-wrt on it
[08:31] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, "key ringmanager, partition tool, network tool , printing. system log, system monitor, update manager"
[08:31] <geirha> Lartza_: you should make a .desktop-file that runs the other window manager, and put it in /usr/share/xsessions . You will then be able to choose it as a session on the login screen
[08:31] <mdemocritus> stefano: well, try it with the stock firmware first, but those tend to lock up with a bunch of clients
[08:32] <legend2440> a^^nnnn:  in terminal type gksudo users-admin
[08:32] <stefano> mdemocritus, would i be able to benefit from zeroconf? does windows even support it? because i want to avoid all the ip confusion and possible harm by people assigning themseves ips of servers or something like that thus bringign those servers down
[08:32] <mdemocritus> stefano: but i wouldn't use zeroconfig... no real reason, but some things just don't seem to work right with it
[08:32] <slytherin> a^^nnnn: can you try command 'users-admin'?
[08:32] <leau2001> Anybody have problem with Python IDLE ?
[08:32] <legend2440> a^^nnnn:  in terminal type gksudo users-admin
[08:33] <mdemocritus> stefano: windows supports it... set it to obtain ip automatically and let it time out
[08:33] <a^^nnnn> slytherin, legend2440 typed.. i am there in user conf gui mode interface file
[08:33] <Lartza_> geirha: That was not realated in my situation
[08:33] <mjohn> hi guys. i just installed gutsy and used "safe graphics" mode on the live cd, but now i want to install the nvidia proprietaary driver, but the proprietarey driver manager says i don't need any prop. drivers
[08:33] <mdemocritus> stefano: but you'd probably be better off using a router with the dhcp server enabled
[08:33] <Lartza_> The .desktop file thing
[08:33] <mjohn> anyone knows how to fix this?
[08:33] <mdemocritus> mjohn: i'll bet you have an integrated graphics card on your mobo
[08:34] <mjohn> nope... brand new nvidia geforce 8800
[08:34] <chrislees> mjohn: If your card is newer than your version of Ubuntu, you'll need to manually install from the Nvidia website
[08:34] <stefano> mdemocritus, instead of using dhcp, wouldnt it be better to just give them a little piece of paper with an ip that they have to use and then trust them on this (i imagine dhcp is quite a heavy process)
[08:34] <shuki> hi all. can anyone help with a few problems I have with linux mint?
[08:34] <chrislees> mjohn: or I believe the program "Envy" will install it for you
[08:35] <chrislees> shuki: Fire away - don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
[08:35] <mjohn> chrislees: ah, i knew i should have gone iwth the heron alpha instead
[08:35] <slytherin> chrislees: please don't suggest programs outside of repositories
[08:35] <mdemocritus> stefano: if you used dhcp for the clients and set the servers to statics, you should't have any issues... dhcp isn't too big of a load once the addresses are all assigned
[08:35] <slytherin> mjohn: if the driver manager says you don't need then then it is probably correct
[08:35] <mshadle> can anyone here recommend a good professional services company who can help me with NFS tuning, general server administration and sanity checking my systems?
[08:36] <slytherin> mshadle: how about canonical. They provide support services. :-)
[08:36] <mdemocritus> stefano: you could give the lusers their ip, but that's asking for problems
[08:36] <ToastGuy> if my shell script is in my home directory where Desktop folder is... what do you call that directory... something like ~ when telling where the CRON JOB will find the script?
[08:36] <mshadle> they won't login to the servers, they don't support that
[08:36] <stefano> mdemocritus, allrighty, thank you very much for your help i will just do that, i was just afraid of the thought of setting up such a big network on dhcp,
[08:36] <ez> with snd_hda_intel what should gconf-editor key value /desktop/gnome/sound/default_mixer_device read?
[08:36] <shuki> first off all. I switched to mint be-cause Ubuntu 7.10 didn't work properlly with my wifi card. for some reason mint does...
[08:36] <mjohn> slytherin: there are no open drivers (with 3d) for geforce 8800 as far as i know
[08:36] <geirha> ToastGuy: ~username/script
[08:37] <pvh_sa|wrk> ToastGuy, $HOME/script? or are you saying your script is in $HOME/Desktop?
[08:37] <slytherin> ToastGuy ~/script is sufficient
[08:37] <ToastGuy> ok
[08:37] <ToastGuy> thanks
[08:37] <ToastGuy> You guys are awesome....
[08:37] <shuki> I'm using an acount I used on ubuntu and I played a little to much with compiz definition, is there any way to reset them?
[08:37] <mjohn> I thought maybe it was because I used "safe graphics" that the proprietary driver manager thinks my graphics card is VESA
[08:38] <chrislees> mjohn: Open up the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what is listed under "driver".
[08:38] <mdemocritus> stefano: join #private142 so we can continue... this is pretty off-topic lol
[08:38]  * sCOTTo is feeling sheepish.... just wiped my backup drive, then without thinking about another backup the next day I installed a fresh pratition with ubuntu - lost everything :(
[08:39] <slytherin> mjohn: in that case you may want to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:39] <mjohn> chrislees: yeah, its "vesa"..
[08:39] <geirha> shuki: switching to "Normal" or "Extra" visual effects should switch to some sane values
[08:39] <chrislees> mjohn: Then run the command that slytherin just said :-)
[08:40] <ToastGuy> what's wrong with this? why didn't it run at 1:41am?
[08:40] <ToastGuy> 41 01 * * * ~/maketorrent
[08:40] <mjohn> slytherin, yeah, im about to :)
[08:40] <ToastGuy> I edited with: crontab -e
[08:40] <slytherin> ToastGuy: Does that script have execute permission?
[08:41] <ToastGuy> and the file: File: /tmp/crontab.dYiIys/crontab
[08:41] <shuki> geirha: That's what I thought but it didn't work. I tried running gnome-compiz-preferences but I didn't have any effect on my machine. I even deleted some of the folders at my home directories with no effect
[08:41] <ToastGuy> slytherin: yes I chmod it to 777
[08:41] <crdlb> shuki: there is a button in ccsm to reset all your compiz settings
[08:41] <slytherin> ToastGuy: Did you save and exit the file you were editing with 'crontab -e'?
[08:42] <geirha> shuki: hm, ok. The configuration is stored in ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig I beleive, so removing or moving away that dir should reset things I think
[08:42] <flowOver> can i run directx games with the nv driver instead?
[08:42] <crdlb> geirha: by default, it's stored in gconf
[08:42] <ToastGuy> slytherin: Yes... then I opened it back up and the line that I gave you was still there
[08:42] <geirha> ToastGuy: does this list your cron-job? crontab -l
[08:43] <ToastGuy> geirha: ya...
[08:43] <geirha> crdlb: ok, I stand corrected :)
[08:43] <slytherin> flowOver: directx is for windows, not for linux. You will need 'wine' installed to emulate windows. That also means that your game may not run as expected or run at all
[08:43] <ToastGuy> It was that file in my base directory...
[08:43] <ToastGuy> 41 01 * * * ~/maketorrent
[08:44] <geirha> ToastGuy: I'm not entirely sure the ~ will be expanded, so change it to $HOME instead, just to be sure.
[08:44] <JonathanEllis> Slytherin: Yes I do have other packages marked for installation. They are: freemind, freemind-plugins-help, freemind-plugins-svg, freemind-plugins-svg, freemind-plugins-time and libjgoodies-forms-java. I am not sure why libj is marked
[08:44] <flowOver> slytherin: i got that far thanks.  the nvidia driver is just buggy as hell.  i'm asking if i can do games without it
[08:44] <geirha> ToastGuy: 41 1 * * * $HOME/maketorrent
[08:44] <ToastGuy> ok
[08:44] <rameez> I'm on LAN Cable User How Can I Use Internet on Ubuntu ?
[08:44] <rameez> While I'm Using Internet On WindowsXP On The Same Local Area NetWork
[08:45] <sixtyby3> Just plug in your ethernet cable.
[08:45] <sixtyby3> That should do it, if DHCP is enabled.
[08:45] <shuki> geirha: well, now I can't activate it. I got a msg "desktop effect couldn't be eneabled"
[08:45] <bluej774> I'm selling an old computer of mine and I want to securely wipe the disk.  Perhaps something a little better than just deleting the partitions.  Does anyone know of a good LiveCD to perform this?
[08:45] <mjohn> slytherin, chrislees: dpkg-reconfigure xorg suggested the "nv" driver, but that didn't work. i guess the card is too new
[08:45] <rameez> But The Server Is ISA Server
[08:45] <Werdna> hmm. --excludes-fron doesn't seem to be working with rsync. /home/backup/excludes_remote includes the line /home/backup/current/home/remotebackup, but the command $ rsync -avz /home/backup/ andrew@epstone.net:~/backup/laptop1/ --exclude-from=/home/backup/excludes_remote still seems to back up these files:
[08:45] <Werdna> current/home/remotebackup/vista1/Users/NewUser/
[08:46] <slytherin> mjohn: no. you have to restart x server. which means, logout and then press Ctrl + Alt + backspace
[08:46] <msn> i am trying to setup a ubuntu local mirror using apt-mirror somehow everything is not being mirrored is there a way to make sure it mirrors everything to the last date
[08:46] <chrislees> mjohn: I know Slytherin doesn't like me suggesting this, but in order to get 3D acceleration on it you'll need the Nvidia driver from the Nvidia website
[08:47] <slytherin> rameez: Please don't make first letter of every word capital. Please use plain english and try to explain your problem again
[08:47] <rameez> I'm on local area network and my server is ISA server
[08:47] <mjohn> slytherin, did that
[08:47] <geirha> shuki: hm, I tried it myself, and compiz still started ... odd
[08:47] <legend2440> bluej774: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page has program called wipe
[08:47] <rameez> i have one system at my home and i'm using dual os (winxp and ubuntu)
[08:48] <rameez> on winxp i'm using internet mirc,msn,yahoo,firefox
[08:48] <rameez> but
[08:48] <bluej774> legend2440: I'm assuming I'd use that with the ubuntu live cd?
[08:48] <mjohn> chrislees, yeah. and i do need it, 3d shader programming project at uni coming up.
[08:48] <rameez> on ubuntu i can't access these things because i don't have internet on ubuntu
[08:48] <geirha> ToastGuy: if a cron command fails it will tell you about it btw, through a local mail system. If you type mail in a terminal you can read it and see what it said
[08:49] <legend2440> bluej774:  no you burn systemrescuecd from iso and then boot that
[08:49] <msn> for example i was trying to install ubntu over network nad the installer is looking for acpi-modules-2.6.22-14-getneric-di_2.6.22-14.52_i386.udeb while my server only has acpi-modules-2.6.22-14-getneric-di_2.6.22-14.46_i386.udeb even after doing manual mirror a few times it seems the package files got updated but not the binary files
[08:49] <sCOTTo> hey does anyone know a good partition recovery program to find a deleted NTFS partition in linux?
[08:49] <ToastGuy> geirha: where do I find that... I just think I'm not pulling the correct directory
[08:49] <shuki> geirha: I tried it a second time and it worked. thanks.
[08:49] <slytherin> rameez: Do you know settings like proxy, DNS, whether DHCP is enabled or now?
[08:49] <chrislees> rameez: What sort of network is it? Your home network, or a work one?
[08:49] <hfmls> i don't think ubuntu is using the driver it used to use in 7.10 version, maxime and minimize windows is slower. where can i check ifare update to my intel vga onboard?
[08:49] <bluej774> legend2440: Oops.  I see that now.  Thanks for the tip.
[08:50] <hfmls> if there are updates*
[08:50] <geirha> ToastGuy: open a terminal and run: mail
[08:50] <rameez> chrislees, that is work one
[08:50] <slytherin> hfmls: which version of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[08:50] <legend2440> bluej774:  i don't know if ubuntu livecd has program wipe on it. it might
[08:50] <ez> gnome-sound-properties doesn't have any device in it's drop down list. Yet I am able to play sound via other apps. Any suggestions on how to config it or reset it?
[08:50] <rameez> slytherin, actually i'm using linux 1st time
[08:50] <hfmls> latest alpha 6
[08:50] <ToastGuy> geirha: l didn't do anything
[08:50] <ToastGuy> lol
[08:50] <rameez> slytherin, i really don't know how to configure that dns dhcp and others
[08:50] <chrislees> rameez: You should ask the network administrator if there is a proxy server you need to tell Firefox to use
[08:51] <ToastGuy> geirha: lol.... I hate this insert... on my keyboard.... MAIL didn't do anything
[08:51] <shuki> geirha:Is there any compiz manager apart then gnome-compiz-preferences?
[08:51] <slytherin> rameez: it is not ubuntu specific? Who set the network for you?
[08:51] <rameez> chrislees, i told him but he don't know how to configure the ubuntu settings for local area network
[08:51] <chrislees> rameez: And if there isn't, you might need to tell Ubuntu the address of the gateway
[08:51] <geirha> ToastGuy: did it give you a message saying no mail?
[08:51] <icesword> 8.04 willl need 512 m to run smoothly,i dare say
[08:51] <slytherin> hfmls: and which card?
[08:51] <crdlb> !ccsm | shuki
[08:51] <ubot3> shuki: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[08:51] <ToastGuy> geirha: nope.... COMMAND NOT FOUND
[08:52] <ez> compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:52] <slytherin> shuki: package compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:52] <bluej774> What's your preference?  Clonezilla or Partimage?
[08:52] <geirha> ToastGuy: it must be written with lowercase letters. linux is case sensitive in general
[08:52] <rameez> chrislees, yeah the point is this i want to know the gateway to put in ubuntu right? once i put gateway then i can use irc,msn,yahoo,firefox all the things ?
[08:52] <geirha> ToastGuy: MAIL != mail
[08:52] <ToastGuy> geirha: same for both
[08:52] <rameez> slytherin, my network administrator don't know anything about linux,ubuntu
[08:52] <slytherin> rameez: yes. so you need to ask the network admin
[08:52] <shuki> Thanks, apt-get is downloading it.
[08:53] <slytherin> rameez: just ask him what are the settings for dhcp, gateway, dns
[08:53] <legend2440> bluej774:  i thought clonezilla used partimage to backup
[08:53] <Duckstar> Is there anyway to lock the top menu ? or password it ?
[08:53] <rameez> wait a second please
[08:53] <slytherin> hfmls: which card?
[08:53] <bluej774> legend2440: Does it?  Let me check.
[08:53] <slytherin> Duckstar: What do you mean by lock ?
[08:53] <shuki> other problem I have is Liferea, the damn thing won't remember feeds I already read, any idea?
[08:53] <hfmls> slytherin,  1 mnt
[08:54] <chrislees> rameez: Try going to the terminal and typing "ping 192.168.0.1"
[08:54] <Duckstar> slytherin: Make it so users can not click the menu / use it.
[08:54] <rameez> slytherin, i can find the gate, dhcp, dns and my ip address in windows xp i know all the things but i don't know where to put in ubuntu
[08:54] <Duckstar> slytherin: or better yet, not see it
[08:54] <bluej774> legend2440: looks like you're right again.
[08:54] <hfmls> slytherin,  Mobile Intel 965GM
[08:54] <rameez> chrislees, i already checked ping with my server's ip and that was working good
[08:55] <kes0> darn, now my mouse is dieing again
[08:55] <rameez> but before i proceed i want to tell you guys that the server is not linux based that is windows based Isa server
[08:55] <slytherin> Duckstar: I don't know why you want to do that, but there are some admin tools in gnome that should allow that. I don't remember the name exactly but it is either sabayon or pessulus
[08:55] <chrislees> rameez: So you've put the gateway IP address into the Networking panel?
[08:55] <rameez> i use firewall client to run internet on my windows xp
[08:55] <slytherin> hfmls: have you applied all the updates?
[08:55] <legend2440> bluej774:  i use partimage it is on that system rescue cd i mentioned earlier
[08:55] <Duckstar> slytherin: Thanks mate, its for a kiosk desk :)
[08:55] <geirha> ToastGuy: oh, thought it was installed by default. Guess I was wrong. Anyway, $HOME didn't work either?
[08:55] <rameez> chrislees, yes i checked
[08:56] <hfmls> yes
[08:56] <bluej774> legend2440: There is also this: http://clonezilla-sysresccd.hellug.gr/
[08:56] <slytherin> Duckstar: those tools may not be available in default install so you will have to install some package
[08:56] <Duckstar> Yeah thats cool, i will find them :)
[08:56] <ToastGuy> geirha: I think it was /home/insupport
[08:56] <hfmls> slytherin,  yes
[08:57] <legend2440> bluej774:  yes i know but system rescue cd has a lot more programs for recovery on it
[08:57] <kes0> hello anyone who know what to do when the mouse dies , have wired usb mouse..
[08:57] <slytherin> Duckstar: check - apt-cache show pessulus :-)
[08:57] <chrislees> rameez: If you have a wireless card, is this properly disabled?
[08:58] <rameez> i don't have any wireless card
[08:58] <shuki> geirha: any idea about the liferead problem?
[08:58] <rameez> i just use plug and play pci lan card
[08:58] <Duckstar> slytherin: I just found it in the Add/Remove Applications, under Lockdown Editor :).  Thanks again
[08:58] <slytherin> hfmls: what is version of xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[08:58] <hfmls> sorry, how i check it
[08:58] <hfmls> can i
[08:59] <chrislees> rameez: I'm not sure what to try now, except a good old-fashioned Windows-style reboot
[08:59] <geirha> ToastGuy: what do you mean?
[08:59] <musikgoat> anyone happen to know a right click context modification to allow VLC to open a DVD on the desktop?
[08:59] <geirha> shuki: I have no idea what liferead is, sorry
[08:59] <slytherin> hfmls: run this command in terminal - dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel
[09:00] <rameez> lol
[09:00] <hfmls> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[09:00] <hfmls> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend
[09:00] <hfmls> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[09:00] <hfmls> ||/ Nome           Versão        Descrição
[09:00] <hfmls> +++-[09:00] <hfmls> ii  xserver-xorg-v 2:2.2.1-1ubunt X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display d
[09:00] <FloodBot2> hfmls: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <chrislees> rameez: If everything is input correctly, everything should work :-(
[09:00] <rameez> chrislees, i just wanna to one thing in the last that is ubuntu running internet if the server which is providing internet is on windows isa server?
[09:00] <slytherin> musikgoat: you should probably look into nautilus-actions. you will need a bit of hacking but it is pretty easy and some preconfigured actions are available on the website
[09:01] <rameez> know*
[09:01] <ToastGuy> geirha: I got it to run from some Task Scheduler  GUI app I found... the directory path is... /home/insupport/maketorrent
[09:01] <slytherin> hfmls: taht is not latest version. and please don't paste multiple lines in the channel. use pastebin
[09:01] <chrislees> rameez: The platform has nothing to do with it; they all communicate through TCP/IP which is an interplatform standard
[09:01] <geirha> musikgoat: system -> preferences -> removable disks and media (or something like that). And change the command for playing dvd from totem to vlc
[09:01] <shuki> anybody can recomand a good rss reader for gnome?
[09:01] <rameez> chrislees, means YES ?
[09:02] <musikgoat> geirha and slytherin, thanks
[09:02] <slytherin> shuki: liferea, blam
[09:02] <chrislees> rameez: It means, the problem is unlikely to be caused by the server running Windows
[09:03] <geirha> ToastGuy: it should have worked with $HOME/maketorrent too, granted that you ran crontab as your user and not root (with sudo)
[09:03] <hfmls> slytherin,  where can i get the latest ?
[09:03] <shuki> slytherin: as I told earlier, I have a problem with liferea, perhaps you can help me
[09:03] <kes0> hello anyone who know what to do when the mouse dies , have wired usb mouse..
[09:03] <shuki> slytherin: liferea won't remebmber the feeds I already read
[09:03] <ToastGuy> geirha: ya... could my cron be not turned on?
[09:04] <rameez> Thanks alot chrislees and slytherin peace
[09:04] <rameez> good bye all
[09:04] <shuki> geirha: it seems like ccsm has no effect over compiz
[09:04] <geirha> ToastGuy: if the following command returns a result, it's running: ps -ef | grep [c]ron
[09:05] <hfmls> anyone with fuppes? ِi want to know if that's the better way totranscode toxbox 360
[09:05] <ToastGuy> geirha: does this count?
[09:05] <ToastGuy> root      4564     1  0 Mar09 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
[09:05] <ToastGuy> 1000     24070 23260  1 01:56 ?        00:00:08 kcron -caption "%c"
[09:05] <ToastGuy> 1000     24121 24074  0 01:57 ?        00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-insupport/klauncherH
[09:05] <slytherin> which archive mirror are you using? Look into /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me.
[09:05] <jscinoz> I have a music directory with the hireachy /artist/album/files, in each directory i have the album art saved as folder.jpg, is there a way to batch rename all of these to album.jpg?
[09:06] <NeT_DeMoN_> !paste | ToastGuy
[09:06] <ubot3> ToastGuy: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:06] <geirha> ToastGuy: the first line means the cron daemon is running, and should run the crontabs
[09:07] <ToastGuy> geirha: so what's up with this mail thing
[09:07] <ToastGuy> geirha: see what is or is not happening
[09:07] <shuki> slytherin:
[09:07] <shuki> slytherin? (sorry)
[09:08] <slytherin> shuki: sorry it was not for you.
[09:08] <slytherin> hfmls: which archive mirror are you using? Look into /etc/apt/sources.list and tell me.
[09:09] <shuki> slytherin: k, do you have any idea about my problem?
[09:09] <slytherin> shuki: nope
[09:09] <geirha> ToastGuy: if you install the mailx package, the mail command should work... sudo aptitude install mailx
[09:09] <shuki> thanks.
[09:10] <hfmls> slytherin,  i think is deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[09:10] <hfmls> deb-src http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[09:10] <shuki> Other problem I have is a resolution problem, I'm using 1024X768 resolution, but other users on this machine can't use any resultion other then 620X420
[09:11] <shuki> which is crap
[09:11] <amr> i want to install arabic encoding in ubuntu 7.10
[09:12] <Lifted> i have a problem with my PPPoE can someone help ?
[09:12] <amr> i want to install arabic encoding in ubuntu 7.10
[09:12] <NeT_DeMoN_> !repeat | amr
[09:12] <ubot3> amr: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:12] <slytherin> hfmls: first try 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and if doesn't show any upgrades then use different mirror
[09:13] <shuki> anybody?
[09:13] <ToastGuy> geirha: okay I think I got something useful
[09:14] <amr> please help i have problem i want to install arabic encoding
[09:14] <slytherin> amr: Do you just want read support or write support too?
[09:15] <ToastGuy> geirha: does this mean anything to you..... http://pastebin.com/m26ce92cc
[09:15] <amr> read and write
[09:15] <amr> !!!!
[09:16] <slytherin> amr: Sys menu System -> Administration -> Language Support
[09:16] <geirha> ToastGuy: that's just the mail header, there's no mail body?
[09:16] <ToastGuy> geirha: oh.../home/insupport/maketorrent: line 3: createtorrent: command not found
[09:16] <amr> i added arabic already but i have aproblem writing in Amsn and another regarding fonts configuration
[09:17] <geirha> ToastGuy: ok, line 3 in your script tries to run a command it can't find
[09:17] <ToastGuy> geirha: how can the command not be found?
[09:17] <amr> firefox shows my arabic fonts with system default fonts
[09:17] <amr> and amsn cannot write in arabic
[09:17] <shuki> please, guys, can't any of you help me with me resolution or compiz problem?
[09:17] <geirha> ToastGuy: it's not in path. crontab only has /usr/bin and /bin in path. Do you know where createtorrent is located?
[09:18] <ToastGuy> geirha: oh crap.... I though I could.... cd /usr/local/bin/
[09:18] <ToastGuy> geirha: that's where
[09:18] <joobaby> Everytime I try to update I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. , what is this?
[09:18] <geirha> ToastGuy: if it is in /usr/local/bin, then call that command with /usr/local/bin/createtorrent ...
[09:18] <slytherin> amr: any particular reason why you are using amsn?
[09:18] <Lifted> please anyone ? i configured my pppoe but it doesn't start
[09:18] <VSpike> joobaby: pretty much what it says.  a package operation was interrupted at some point
[09:19] <slytherin> Lifted: what do you mean by doesn't start?
[09:19] <VSpike> joobaby: just type what it says but with sudo on the front
[09:19] <amr> no just chatting :)
[09:19] <Lifted> service is started but in X it doesn't show me the appropriate menus :/
[09:20] <ToastGuy> geirha: You're Awesome! It did it!!!!!
[09:20] <Lifted> slytherin : it tells me that it can't find "modem"
[09:20] <geirha> !yay | ToastGuy
[09:20] <ubot3> ToastGuy: Glad you made it! :-)
[09:20] <ToastGuy> geirha: thanks for sticking it out with me!
[09:21] <ToastGuy> thanks soooo much
 ok nevermined about Amsn how can i optimize system fonts and determine default fonts for system and firefox
[09:21] <slytherin> Lifted: I am not able to under stand. What menus are you talking about?
[09:21] <VSpike> wow mergeant sucks more than you could imagine
[09:21] <ToastGuy> geirha: Ya, got to love rookie mistakes...
[09:21] <geirha> ToastGuy: best way to learn ;)
[09:22] <ToastGuy> geirha: I was thinking to much like windows.... I would CD into the directory and to my work there....
[09:22] <Lifted> slytherin : in network connections i get drop down menu for "adsl conn" ...and when i click there instead of starting pppoe and log in i get "modem is not present" ...i don't use modem...my ethernet adapter is ok ..but it doesn't work :/
[09:22] <kes0> hello anyone who know what to do when the mouse dies , have wired usb mouse..
[09:23] <slytherin> amr: Actually I can't help with fonts much because I think arabic would come under non-latin scripts and don't have much experience with that. You may want to try asking #indlinux which is channel for l10n for Indian languages. At least someone will know.
[09:23] <Lifted> slytherin : where can i get more info on PPPoE ?\
[09:23] <slytherin> Lifted: Have you tried command 'pon dsl-provider'?
[09:23] <hfmls> is it possible to install 7.10 over latest alpha 6
[09:23] <slytherin> hfmls: no
[09:23] <mjohn> chrislees: thanks for your help, i used envy, works great now
[09:23] <hfmls> ok, well have to do it mnual.
[09:23] <Lifted> slytherin : yes...and it says that it's started...and that's all
[09:24] <vircuser> there os a command for pron?
[09:24] <vircuser> oh - misread.. sry ;)
[09:24] <hfmls> brb slytherin  thanks anyway.
[09:24] <polter> kes0: maybe it's an irq-conflict?
[09:24] <slytherin> Lifted: if it says it started then you should simply start browsing
[09:24] <geirha> kes0: does it work on other computers/OSes
[09:25] <Lifted> slytherin : if you can just point me to docs or website where i can read more i'll manage....the basic info on PPPoE is not enough on ubuntu site
[09:26] <slytherin> Lifted: right there is not much info available on pppoe. for me it was just pppoeconf command and then 'pon dsl-provider' whenever i wanted to start the connection
[09:26] <Lifted> slytherin : thanks for your help ..i'll find a way :)
[09:27] <shuki> I'm sorry to bother but I'm still hoping for some help. does anyone know how to handle resulotion problem? compiz problems?
[09:27] <stefano> shuki, what exactly is happening?
[09:27] <kes0> polter: hm, dont know
[09:28] <kes0> geirha: yes it work fine in windows, and it works in ubuntu to but dies sometimes so i have to pull the cable and put it back in so it start again
[09:29] <polter> shuki: what do you mean?
[09:30] <ArthurArchnix> I need help with my sudoers file. I need to give permission to every user to do this: sudo modprobe -r psmouse   and  sudo modprobe psmouse
[09:30] <ArthurArchnix> And I don't want them to be prompted for a password
[09:30] <slytherin> ArthurArchnix: why?
[09:30] <geirha> kes0: do you remember the time when it last died? if so, open /var/log/syslog in an editor, browse down to that time and see if there's any messages about your mouse or usb in general
[09:30] <ArthurArchnix> slytherin: Because then I can assign it a shortcut key and they can enable and disable the touchpad.
[09:30] <slytherin> ArthurArchnix: I mean why give permision to every user to load module?
[09:31] <ArthurArchnix> slytherin: And it's just that module.
[09:31] <VSpike> shuki: you may need to add all the users to the video group
[09:31] <VSpike> shuki: also if you are using compiz by default, and using fast user switching, only one user can run compiz at a time I think
[09:31] <shuki> stefano,polter thanks, I have to users on this machine. on my user I have to problem working at 1024x768 resolution but the other is only 640X480
[09:32] <stefano> does anyone here know a substitude for WordPad / TextEdit.app for ubuntu?
[09:32] <ToastGuy> how do I add return chacters in my command line...
[09:32] <slytherin> ArthurArchnix: I don't think that is possible. Instead you should look for other ways to enable/disable touchpad. something like gsynaptics
[09:32] <shuki> Vspike, how do i do the first? I'm sorry but I didn't understand the second part
[09:32] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: gedit, mousepad, kate
[09:32] <ToastGuy> something like this:  \n   ??
[09:32] <stefano> shuki, do you know what kind of graphics card you have in the system?
[09:32] <VSpike> stefano: what formats do you want to edit?
[09:33] <akshay> ToastGuy: echo -e "\n'
[09:33] <slytherin> stefano: what is wrong with the text editor? Applications -> Accessories -> Text Editor?
[09:33] <VSpike> shuki: for each other user, do "sudo adduser pete vide", replacing pete with actual user name
[09:33] <akshay> Anyone has Ubuntu hardy on A Compaq Pressario C700
[09:33] <shuki> stefano, radeon 200m
[09:33] <VSpike> shuki: "sudo adduser pete video" sorry
[09:33] <ArthurArchnix> slytherin: I can do it that way, in fact, I used to have it setup so that when a mouse when plugged in the touchpad was disabeld and when unplugged re-enabled. However, the synaptics driver causes too many wakeup/interrupts (150/second) draining battery life. So I'm trying to do it this way.
[09:33] <ToastGuy> akshay: that didn't work
[09:34] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, VSpike, slytherin, i want to write some kind of file with some sort of rich text, just basic things like bold, italics, underline, font and font-size, html or tex would do, but it has to be easy and very leightweight
[09:34] <kes0> geirha: cant find it , gonna check next time it die
[09:34] <VSpike> shuki: Do your users tend to all log in at the same time and switch between sessions?
[09:34] <slytherin> ArthurArchnix: I don't think it is possible to do the way you want
[09:34] <kes0> dies*
[09:34] <VSpike> shuki: and do you have effects enabled?
[09:34] <geirha> ToastGuy: what do you need the return characters for?
[09:34] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: Use abiword.
[09:34] <stefano> shuki, i'm sorry i don't have a clue about ATI cards
[09:34] <geirha> kes0: it's probably a good idea to make a post about it in the forums, with the log from around that time pasted
[09:34] <ToastGuy> geirha: I need to include some text into a command...
[09:35] <ToastGuy> geirha: It's asking me include names of urls
[09:35] <slytherin> stefano: abiword in that case
[09:35] <Liquid-Silence> my does x-server support dual monitors that are not running the same resolution yet?
[09:35] <kes0> geriha: okey
[09:35] <akshay> @ToastGuy echo -ne "\n"
[09:35] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, i was kind of hoping to find something more leightweight, that maybe uses native cairo rendering
[09:35] <shuki> Vspike, some times both are logged on togather
[09:35] <akshay> prints a newline
[09:35] <shuki> I have effects enabled
[09:35] <shuki> stefano: thanks anyway
[09:35] <geirha> ToastGuy: on the command line, or does it prompt you for questions after you've typed the command and pressed enter?
[09:36] <kes0> geriha: had this problem before , and then someone in here helped me and it have work just fine untill i installed updates for phyton today
[09:36] <ToastGuy> akshay: but it's a list of urls.... under one command.... like  createtorrent -a "url1 (next line should go here) url2 ... and so on)
[09:36] <ToastGuy> geirha: no ... not really
[09:37] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: look for extensions or plugins for gedit, mousepad or kate then.
[09:37] <kling0n> does anyone know why xrandr sometime will not change resolutions? If i restart Xorg, it works again but it's kind of annoying
[09:37] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, slytherin, i know that's a bit geeky, but if you look at the about dialog in abiword, the text is all messed up with improper kerning and no anti alaising.
[09:38] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: Yeah... cuz you spend a lot of time reading the about box right?
[09:38] <ArthurArchnix> :P
[09:38] <stefano> :-)
[09:38] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, i wanted to program it myself, but it turns out that gtk doesnt come with a rich text control
[09:39] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, so there may be a point to there not being a nice rich text editor that builds upon cairo
[09:39] <_julian> hi all, I just did a clean kubuntu 7.10 install and on running adept-updater it stopped at libqt-mt and since then adept is not working anymore. any ideas
[09:39] <_julian> ?
[09:40] <geirha> ToastGuy: I doubt the command can take more than one url like that ...
[09:40] <ToastGuy> geirha: I'll write it off as a limitation of the application...
[09:41] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: if you're that keen, download the source of abiword and build it yourself. The ubuntu version comes "bloated" with loads of plugins.
[09:41] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, and if i would program one, no one would be intrested in it because there is abiword, which is so much better (since there aren't many people that care about properly hardware accelerated anti aliasing and high quality text presentation) that's kind of a non issue i guess, but i'm sort of onto it for a month now :O
[09:41] <_julian> now I even can't boot anymore..
[09:42] <stefano> ArthurArchnix, well that brings me to an idea: i could just download the sources for abiword and rip away all it's goodness until there's nothing more than a rich text editor
[09:42] <stefano> that'd be nice
[09:42] <ToastGuy> geirha: maybe I'll just separate them with commans... maybe that will work
[09:42] <stefano> i will get myself some coffee and get right on it, see all you guys later
[09:42] <geirha> ToastGuy: perhaps, the documentation for the command should specify it though
[09:42] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: good luck
[09:42] <ArthurArchnix> stefano: happy hacking
[09:42] <stefano> thanks :-)
[09:43] <Syklops> I'm having an issue with hdparm, I'm wanting to set the option for my drive to be 32 bit, when I try to it says HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument
[09:43] <ToastGuy> geirha: lol.... what documentation... that really doesn't exist here
[09:43] <ArthurArchnix> I need help with my sudoers file. I need to give permission to every user to do this: sudo modprobe -r psmouse   and  sudo modprobe psmouse
[09:43] <ArthurArchnix> And I don't want them to be prompted for a password
[09:44] <Syklops> I have read online that other users with my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) have been able to successfully do this with other linux distro's, but in all cases the system calls it /dev/hda but in mine it calls it /dev/sda
[09:44] <Syklops> can anyone help?
[09:45] <geirha> ToastGuy: If it is the prog from createtorrent.com, I just looked at the source code. It can only handle one url
[09:45] <shuki> Vspike: thanks, it worked, the other user can now watch some resonable resolution
[09:45] <erUSUL> Syklops: that's becouse new ubuntu kernels use the new libata pata drivers for some chipsets
[09:45] <morgan> trying to update ubuntu 6.2 to 7.10 but there is some connection problem and i get a error message when i ask it to check for updates.
[09:46] <ToastGuy> geirha: lol .... okay
[09:46] <erUSUL> Syklops: and the disks are now named sdxx
[09:46] <shuki> Vspike do you have any idea why I can't modify my compiz settings?
[09:46] <ToastGuy> geirha: ya that's the application
[09:46] <whitman> How can I spoof my MAC address?  I've tried sudo ifconfig eth0 hw xx:xx:xx... but I get an error saying eth0: Unknown host
[09:46] <erUSUL> morgan: yu have to go through all intermediate version when upgrading
[09:46] <ToastGuy> geirha: maybe I should program the ability to add more urls....
[09:46] <Syklops> erUSUL: Ok, should this impact the use of hdparm and if it does, how do I switch it so I can set the drive parameters?
[09:46] <ToastGuy> geirha: what is it written in?
[09:47] <legend2440> stefano:  there is an editor called ted in synaptics which looks good   http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/
[09:47] <erUSUL> morgan: 6.04>6.10>7.04>7.10
[09:47] <morgan> ok do you know where i get them \
[09:47] <erUSUL> Syklops: afaik libata should set up the driver at full capabilities
[09:47] <geirha> ToastGuy: c ... and a bit sloppy c I might add
[09:47] <morgan> thanks
[09:48] <JViz> is it possible to load a wubi image with qemu?
[09:48] <erUSUL> !upgrade | morgan
[09:48] <ubot3> morgan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:48] <Syklops> erUSUL: Do you know any reason that I wouldn't be able to set any drive parameters via hdparm?
[09:48] <morgan> thanks guys
[09:48] <erUSUL> Syklops: the new nodes do not have the apropiate ioctls you can try sdparm but i never used it
[09:49] <Syklops> ok
[09:49] <ToastGuy> geirha: Ya, I kinda got the idea that this was written in about a day... It's an application that fit a void... I'm guessing someone is working on a better command line application as we speak
[09:49] <ere4si> Syklops, from man hdparm you need the "-c" option - or enable it in /etc/hdparm.conf
[09:50] <Syklops> ere4si: Thank you, I was using it though, I only wish it was that simple.
[09:50] <ere4si> k
[09:51] <eifzon> Why cant I add any themes to kdm? do I need a plugin?
[09:52] <JViz> is it possible to load a wubi image with qemu?
[09:53] <Laughed> morning everyone
[09:54] <glick> hey do you people think that ubuntu could run an old windows game from 1995?
[09:54] <lordleemo> eifzon: you need the KDM Theme Manager
[09:54] <tarelerulz> with wine maybe glick
[09:54] <eifzon> lordleemo: how to ge tit
[09:54] <cpk1> anyone have any clue how to fix packages that are marked as broken? (apt-get install -f doesnt work)
[09:55] <snypzz> I did not know that I am having problems running wine
[09:55] <lordleemo> eifzon: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120
[09:55] <geirha> glick: search for the game at appdb.winehq.org . it will give you an indication of how well it works with wine, and possible tweaks to get it working
[09:56] <glick> think it would run on a windows xp computer with some sort of emulator or something?
[09:56] <snypzz> I can launch guild wars but unable to get the game running
[09:57] <snypzz> it starts and then the window pops up
[09:57] <glick> im trying to get the original civnet
[09:57] <snypzz> and then the window and program goes away
[09:57] <Laughed> cpk1: I am trying to find your answer
[09:57] <Laughed> Hang in there
[09:58] <geirha> glick: isn't that a dos game? if so, it might run in dosbox
[09:58] <snypzz> and are there any AMIGA users out there
[09:58] <glick> geirha, nah civilization was a dos game, civnet was the multiplayer windows version
[09:58] <polter> cpk1: what package?
[09:59] <polter> apt-get instal <package> --reinstall
[09:59] <polter> maybe?
[09:59] <cpk1> polter: theres 4: libtunepimp5-mp3  libxine1-ffmpeg mplayer and vlc-nox already tried purging and installing
[10:00] <Laughed> I'm thinking Admin -> Synaptic -> status (bottom left of synaptic)
[10:00] <glick> why dont publishers release their games for free after like 10 years
[10:00] <glick> i dont get it
[10:01] <M0nk3Eee> Hi all, the new version of MythTV has been released how long do you think it will be until this hits the ubuntu repositories? or will it?
[10:01] <polter> cpk1: hmm.. odd
[10:01] <vlt> Hello. /etc/logrotate.conf says "weekly" and "rotate 4". There's no syslog file in logrotate.d/, why are only 6 days of syslog kept?
[10:01] <flowOver> glick: some do.  some prefer to retain them
[10:01] <polter> cpk1: tried launching vlc-nox and see what error-message you get?
[10:01] <glick> flowOver, like who?
[10:02] <cpk1> i noticed the other day when ogg wasnt working and I checked to see I had the right libs that I had a broken package and then aptitude search ~b gave me 4 broken ones
[10:02] <geirha> glick: well, you can try to run it with wine. Seems no one has added test results for it for years, so it's hard to tell if it will work or not
[10:02] <cpk1> vlx-nox command not found polter
[10:02] <geirha> glick: if you have a windows 95 cd, you can try installing windows 95 in a virtual machine
[10:03] <flowOver> simcity is open.  transport tycoon.  quake.  plenty more
[10:03] <cpk1> these packages are all installed but marked as broken
[10:03] <glick> geirha, heh wish i did
[10:03] <Laughed> cpk1: Im new at this so bear with me
[10:03] <cpk1> openttd has questionable legality I think
[10:03] <Laughed> Cpk1: did you try using synpatic
[10:03] <cpk1> I dont have synaptic
[10:03] <Laughed> cpk1: under snaptic
[10:03] <tarelerulz> What is a good IDE to use if you have never programmed and wanted to start programing?
[10:04] <geirha> glick: have you tried freeciv btw?
[10:04] <flowOver> yeah they still own the content i believe.  it's a retarded licencing issue that sawyer doesn't really care about so much to enforce
[10:04] <Laughed> Cpk1: there is a status option which will show yapps "Not iNstalled (residual config)
[10:04] <vlt> Found it: There's a cron.daily/ entry for syslog.
[10:05] <glick> yeah geirha but its not the same thing
[10:05] <glick> not even close
[10:05] <polter> tarelerulz: Geany is nice
[10:05] <cpk1> Laughed: I dont have synaptic and dont want to get it...
[10:05] <Laughed> k
[10:05] <cpk1> and I am pretty sure these are installed, but they are marked as broken and I want to know why
[10:06] <polter> cpk1: you might try to install apt-build and build those packages for yourself
[10:06] <polter> cpk1: or maybe a dpkg --configure -a helps
[10:07] <cpk1> hmm I guess I could try apt-build, not sure if that will fix it though
[10:08] <shane_> .net
[10:08] <cpk1> its just perplexing, because they seem to be installed and dont seem to be affecting anything, except I can listen to oggs which is silly
[10:08] <polter> cpk1: well, it's hard to say. strange problem
[10:08] <ToastGuy_> thanks for your help guys
[10:09] <cpk1> i cant* listen to oggs
[10:09] <polter> cpk1: have you got any third-party repos enabled that could screw it up?
[10:10] <parre_> t
[10:10] <polter> damn, I gotta go
[10:10] <tarelerulz> polter, thanks for the info .  I have looked up stuff on program on Linux and not seen much in the way IDE or a general guide for program.  See how it is free and all you would think program would be easy and well documented .
[10:10] <cpk1> hmm well I just noticed I have gutsy-proposed hidding at the bottom of my sources.list... not sure if thats a good thing
[10:14] <Fat-head> is vorbisacm in the ubuntu repo's? where can i download an upto date version?
[10:15] <Laughed> cpk1: why dont you like synaptic
[10:15] <geirha> tarelerulz: perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://laroza.freehostia.com/home/
[10:16] <cpk1> Laughed: 1) I use kde and 2) I prefer cli apt, mostly aptitude and apt-get if I must
[10:17] <serverin> hi.. im having a problem with initialising a driver from ndiswrapper.. ive compiled ndiswrapper and installed the driver but my computer fails to initialise the card. dmesg at http://pastebin.ca/937987
[10:18] <serverin> it a linksys 2220 ipn wireless card im trying to get to work
[10:18] <Fenixon> hello, i need some help
[10:18] <Fenixon> i've installed cod game using typical settings
[10:18] <Fenixon> and now i cant find game directory
[10:19] <Fenixon> + 8gb of disc space gone
[10:19] <LeNty> org
[10:20] <Alaerus> hey, I cannot start my intel pro 3945ABG wireless adapter in Ubuntu
[10:20] <Alaerus> the wi-fi button is not responding.. I think that there are drivers.. restricted ones
[10:20] <geirha> Fenixon: installed using wine? then it's probably installed in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[10:20] <tarelerulz> gerirha , thanks for the link that is just want I wanted.  just good starting point . If you like me you don't know anything.
[10:21] <Alaerus> and another problem.. the line where the minimise, maximise and close buttons are is huge!
[10:22] <glick> anyone ever download software from the-underdogs.info ?
[10:23] <Vegardjj> Hi, I'm a neewb and have tried googleing and searching, but cannot find out why my external harddisk ain't working
[10:23] <Vegardjj> can anyone help me?
[10:24] <Johnny_5> Vegardjj: have u tried mounting it?
[10:24] <Alaerus> can anyone help me? :)
[10:24] <Alaerus> about my wifi problem
[10:25] <MindSpark> hi, I am using xubuntu and I want a keyboard shortcut to change languages, any idea ?
[10:25] <morgan> hi, i have ubuntu 7.4 when i click on the upgrade button it says it cant get the release notes any ideas
[10:25] <vallhalla81> hi all
[10:26] <vallhalla81> is there a app to monitor cpu temp?
[10:26] <Liquid-Silence> does anyone hre run dual monitors?
[10:27] <Fat-head> download the official drivers for your card then edit the monitor section
[10:27] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence ^
[10:28] <Liquid-Silence> are you using 2 different size monitors
[10:28] <Liquid-Silence> IE are they the same resolution?
[10:28] <Fat-head> yeh
[10:28] <Fat-head> no
[10:28] <Liquid-Silence> grr
[10:28] <morgan> hi can anyone help me update from 7.04
[10:28] <Fat-head> i hav a laptop monitor and my external moniter
[10:28] <Fat-head> both different resolutions
[10:28] <Liquid-Silence> I need to see if I can run my notebook montor and  the 17" LCD @ the same time with different resoltuions
[10:29] <pajamian> morgan: to gutsy?  Open the update manager and click on the button to upgrade.
[10:29] <serverin> anyone there could help me with my problem?
[10:29] <geoaxis> hello people
[10:29] <vallhalla81> !help
[10:29] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence u can edit the monitor section
[10:29] <morgan> it says it cant get the release notes
[10:29] <doug_> how do i mount my ntfs drive?
[10:29] <geoaxis> cups is asking me a passwor on localhost for my user
[10:29] <geoaxis> but the password is not working
[10:29] <pajamian> morgan: I wouldn't worry about those.
[10:29] <pajamian> brb
[10:30] <morgan> it wont let me do anything
[10:30] <Liquid-Silence> Fat-head so it should work
[10:30] <doug_> can anyone help me mount my ntfs drive please?
[10:30] <morgan> when i try to do a regular update it gives me a big error notice
[10:30] <Fat-head> yeh i have the same setup a laptop and an external monitor with xinerama so i can use both monitors as if they are 1
[10:31] <Liquid-Silence> Fat-head I dont want to do that tho
[10:31] <Liquid-Silence> I want to use both monitors as 2 separent monitors
[10:31] <Fat-head> oh
[10:31] <Fat-head> u can
[10:31] <Liquid-Silence> can you confirm?
[10:31] <Liquid-Silence> with a screenshot?
[10:32] <Fat-head> just dont check the xinerama box
[10:32] <serverin> hi.. im having a problem with initialising a driver from ndiswrapper.. ive compiled ndiswrapper and installed the driver but my computer fails to initialise the card. dmesg at http://pastebin.ca/937987                        it a linksys 2220 ipn wireless card im trying to get to work
[10:32] <Alaerus> do you have any idea how to start my intel 3945 wireless adapter working? the light indication if it's on is not light up
[10:32] <Alaerus> and the button is not working, but I think that Ubuntu recognizes the adapater
[10:32] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence sorry i cant do u a screenshot becouse id have to restart my compuyter
[10:32] <morgan> pajmaian: will you join my chat
[10:33] <Laughed> Is anyone here familiar with splashy??
[10:34] <Liquid-Silence> wtf is splashy?
[10:34] <_moro_bana_> how do i check my vnc address
[10:34] <robas> splashy == usplash replacement
[10:34] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence whats your gpu ?
[10:34] <morgan> my computer wont upgrade normally, can anyone help
[10:34] <Laughed> thank you robas
[10:34] <doug_> how do i mount the ntfs drive to the gnome gutsy desktop and have read/write privlages?
[10:34] <jsoft> Im getting laggy as youtube video playback in firefox using the flash plugin.. any ideas why this is?
[10:35] <Dep> me to
[10:35] <robas> doug_: ntfs-3g, but it should work out of the box
[10:35] <jsoft> Not always, but sometimes it just pauses and farts around for a bit.
[10:35] <Dep> what graphics card do you have jsoft?
[10:36] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence whats your gpu ?
[10:36] <ArthurArchnix> Any experts here on the sudoers file? I need to edit it so that I can give all users the ability to "sudo modprobe -r psmouse" without entering a password.
[10:36] <Fat-head> Liquid-Silence whats your graphics card
[10:36] <doug_> robas:  i used the real ubuntu gutsy cd i got from the comp. but it is not showing on the desktop.
[10:36] <Laughed> robas: Is splashy for sarge users or can I use it for gutsy
[10:36] <jsoft> Dep: 6800 Ultra
[10:36] <geirha> _moro_bana_: right click the network manager icon in the notification area and select "connection information" The ip-address should be the one to use for vnc
[10:36] <jsoft> bear in mind that in windows and freebsd its fine.
[10:36] <pajamian> morgan can you paste the error notice into the pastebin?
[10:36] <Dep> that should work i think
[10:36] <jsoft> No kidding.
[10:37] <Dep> haha
[10:37] <robas> Laughed: I do not know, I have installed splashy based on some web advices on my VMWare 7.10 server edition
[10:37] <itaku> how do i run sshd
[10:37] <Dep> i use a 9700 pro..its useless
[10:37] <legend2440> Laughed: splashy is in gutsy synaptics
[10:37] <Laughed> nice
[10:37] <`duKe`> itaku: apt-get install openssh-server
[10:37] <Laughed> thanks you two
[10:37] <robas> hello, I am having trouble with linux-headers package, my Makefile is a symlink to ../itself????
[10:37] <itaku> no i mean run it
[10:38] <Dep> at least i  think it is. Drivers are a pain to install
[10:38] <`duKe`> ah
[10:38] <_moro_bana_> geirha: i think that ip is for LAN, what about if i want someone to look at my comp over the internet
[10:38] <robas> itaku: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[10:38] <`duKe`> try /etc/init.d/sshd start
[10:38] <pajamian> robas: that means it's a symbolic link to the makefile in the parent directory
[10:38] <itaku> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[10:38] <morgan> pajamian: i have opened up a chat with us reply to me there
[10:38] <`duKe`> hm
[10:38] <Laughed> paja: your bossome
[10:38] <`duKe`> something with ssh in there?
[10:38] <Laughed> =)
[10:39] <geirha> _moro_bana_: http://portforward.com/ will tell you the external ip at the bottom
[10:39] <pajamian> morgan: I'd rather keep it in here for now.
[10:39] <pajamian> Laughed: :-P
[10:39] <morgan> its a big note where do you want me to put it
[10:39] <geirha> _moro_bana_: you've forwarded the vnc port (5900) I assume?
[10:39] <pajamian> !pastebin | morgan
[10:39] <ubot3> morgan: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:40] <wordpass> quit
[10:40] <serverin> hi.. im having a problem with initialising a driver from ndiswrapper.. ive compiled ndiswrapper and installed the driver but my computer fails to initialise the card. dmesg at http://pastebin.ca/937987                                                                      it a linksys 2220 ipn wireless card im trying to get to work
[10:40] <Kr|ptiX> hey
[10:40] <_moro_bana_> geirha: i know my external, but i dont know what u just wrote port 5900
[10:40] <Laughed> IS there a way for me to give sudo rights to my main account so I dont have to keep using a password evrytime I want to change something?
[10:41] <Kr|ptiX> i was lookn for a wireless driver but i have yet found one i have aaa bc4311 any1 kno how to  solve this problem
[10:41] <doug_> can anyone tell me how to mount the ntfs drive and have read write privileges?
[10:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !sudo
[10:41] <ubot3> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[10:41] <erUSUL> Laughed: yes; use windows xp home ;P
[10:41] <ExalleR> hi! when I attempt to start ubuntu something goes wrong at the Login screen. the monitor goes pitch black. I can type my name and pass to login and it works (the sound proves that) but the screen is still black..  any solution?
[10:41] <pajamian> Laughed: yes, you can set it so you don't need a password but I don't recommend it, but if you really want to look at the file /etc/sudoers and the comments in there should be obvious.
[10:41] <Laughed> erUSL: lol, nice
[10:41] <Ouranos999_> #ubuntu-fr
[10:42] <geirha> _moro_bana_: if you're behind a router, your computer can't be accessed from the internet unless you forward the ports from the router to your computer
[10:42] <Laughed> Paja: cool, ill check it out
[10:42] <`duKe`> ExalleR: wrong graphic card drivers in xorg.conf?
[10:42] <_moro_bana_> geirha: and how do i do that
[10:42] <cpk1> Laughed: do not take root in vain
[10:42] <geirha> _moro_bana_: portforward.com will explain how to configure that
[10:42] <Laughed> ahhaha
[10:42] <Laughed> =P
[10:42] <ExalleR> well it worked before I tried to put the computer in Hibernating..  but how do I check that?
[10:43] <_moro_bana_> geirha: thank you
[10:44] <BlueEyes_Jhb> Hi, can anyone recommend a good TV Tuner app ?
[10:44] <thomax> hello
[10:44] <Laughed> mythtv???
[10:45] <geirha> !tv | BlueEyes_Jhb
[10:45] <ubot3> BlueEyes_Jhb: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[10:45] <BlueEyes_Jhb> thnx
[10:45] <thomax> can you give me a quick answer on this: is there a preemtive kernel in the gutsy repository?
[10:48] <windvogel> Hallo @ all!
[10:49] <cpk1> i thought the default ubuntu kernel uses preempting
[10:49] <doug_> could someone guide me in how to mount my ntfs partition please?
[10:50] <pajamian> !ntfs | doug_
[10:50] <ubot3> doug_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[10:50] <thomax> with uname -a there is no PREEMPT in the output string, should be
[10:50] <serverin> hi.. im having a problem with initialising a driver from ndiswrapper.. ive compiled ndiswrapper and installed the driver but my computer fails to initialise the card. dmesg at http://pastebin.ca/937987                                                                      it a linksys 2220 ipn wireless card im trying to get to work
[10:51] <praecox> hello guys, is there anybody here who can help me with configuring 5.1 sound on Ubuntu?
[10:51] <vallhalla81> any one have the link for suported hardware?
[10:52] <vallhalla81> !hardware
[10:52] <ubot3> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[10:52] <praecox> I tried many variants found on the internet but the only thing I achieved is proper 5.1 sound from speaker-test -twav -c6 -Dplug:surround5.1
[10:54] <cpk1> praecox: how are the speakers connected to the computer? I am using spdif out with no problems here...
[10:54] <Dolf> hey people. I am trying to install Windows Xp next to my Ubuntu install. The ubuntu isntall is on /dev/sda1 and I would like to install windows on /dev/sdb1
[10:54] <thomax> so, please. is there a preemtive kernel in the gutsy repository? someone?
[10:55] <Dolf> the problem is that windows does not want to be installed on the primary slave drive
[10:55] <deformation> dolf, its not good to install windows after linux
[10:55] <Dolf> So I want to start the windows CD through grub so I can map hd0 to hd1 and hd1 to hd0
[10:55] <deformation> that will messup your mbr
[10:55] <pajamian> Dolf: windows is pretty picky that way, when you do get it to install it will overwrite the mbr and mess up your linux boot too.
[10:55] <Dolf> that way the windows install cd thinks it is being installed on the primary disk
[10:55] <Dolf> pajamian: I know
[10:55] <smick2> is this live cd installing right now as I work on the desktop?
[10:56] <Dolf> I can reinstall Grub in the MBR
[10:56] <Dolf> that doesn't matter
[10:56] <achadwick> Dolf: easiest thing might be to stick it in a VirtualBox or vmware can. Unless you want it to speak to a Windows network, that is...
[10:56] <Dolf> The thing is I have to put an entry inGRUB telling it to start from the Windows CD
[10:56] <pajamian> Dolf: I would pull out the linux drive, make the windows drive hda and install windows, then put it back and do the grub mapping thing.  I can't say for sure it will work, though.
[10:56] <Dolf> pajamian:
[10:56] <Dolf> that is a good ide
[10:56] <Dolf> *idea
[10:56] <smick2> hardy heron rocks, it came up and understood all my new hardware.
[10:56] <Dolf> I' ll do that
[10:57] <praecox> cpk1, there are three mini-jacks connected to my Audigy soundcard.
[10:57] <Dolf> then I can map the hd' s in grub after the install was succesfull
[10:57] <Dolf> let' s try
[10:57] <pajamian> Dolf: yeah, that's what I would figure and since the linux drive won't be in the box when you isntall windows it can't possibly be messed up.
[10:57] <gtfreire> alguem do Brasil
[10:57] <Dolf> that's true
[10:58] <pajamian> Dolf: good luck
[10:58] <smick2> anyone know the Gimp comand for bringing the windows in front?
[10:58] <Dolf> thanks pajamian
[10:59] <Dolf> :)
[10:59] <gtfreire> no sound in ubuntu
[10:59] <Dolf> I'll need it ;_
[10:59] <Dolf> ;)
[10:59] <legend2440> thomax: channel #ubuntu-kernel would probably be able to help
[10:59] <Vegardjj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59230/
[10:59] <thomax> legend2440: cool, i give it a try
[10:59] <padrigal> Hi channel, I've got a Gutsy Kubuntu networking problem, or rather my sister has! The wireless interface seems to take precedence over her wired interface and so she gets connected to a random wireless network rather than her home wired broadband. The wireless network appears to be broken (gets an IP address but no further connectivity), so she can't use that. We can't seem to disable the wireless network interface in ANY WAY AT ALL, from
[10:59] <padrigal> knetworkmanager. Any ideas?
[11:00] <praecox> cpk1, could you tell me something more about your configuration?
[11:00] <padrigal> Preferably I'd like to completely kill wireless altogether, but there appears to be no hardware option to do this.
[11:01] <pajamian> !kubuntu | padrigal
[11:01] <ubot3> padrigal: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:01] <humbolto> I have two keyrings in gutsy/hardy: default and login. which one is the deprecated leftover from feisty and how can I merge the two?
[11:01] <wehttamb> i get an error when i insert an SD card into my laptop and i cant access it. i was messing with mounting it and stuff in the command line and now it wont work
[11:01] <Vegardjj> I am trying to get my external harddrive to work, but it refuses, please help me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59230/
[11:05] <Jahromeo> how do i run my ntfs drive in ubuntu? i dont see it in the file system menu
[11:05] <pajamian> !ntfs | Jahromeo
[11:05] <ubot3> Jahromeo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[11:05] <irvk> hi is there anyone who can help me get sound working on my laptop, I've been through all the howtos on google, but still no luck
[11:06] <geirha> Vegardjj: smells like hardware fault to me. Have you tried it on any other computer/OS to see if it works there?
[11:07] <cpk1> praecox: I am using the xine engine and I set it to pass through. sorry if that is too vague, it's very late for me and my mind is numbed from hours of compiling
[11:08] <cpk1> praecox: our set up is probably a bit different though since I am just send the digital signal to my reciever which does all the decoding
[11:08] <wers> is there an app like gimp but much simpler? maybe, something like MS Paint?
[11:10] <legend2440> wers:  http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/03/06/gnu-linux-graphics-programs-ubuntu/
[11:11] <wers> thanks. imma look at that
[11:18] <doug_> ok i mounted the ntfs but how the heck do i get it read/write?
[11:21] <__doc__> hi. A question, I want to package a proprietary device driver in a .deb, it requires usbfs to be mounted and it should be started as a deamon on system startup. is it philosophically correct to add both things to the install script of that package? (i.e. mount -t usb and fiddling with rc.d)
[11:22] <cataldus3d> hello
[11:22] <cataldus3d> morning
[11:23] <cataldus3d> please, i need some help, im just a ubuntu newbie
[11:27] <riccardo> c'è qualcuno?
[11:27] <polter> cataldus3d, don't ask to ask.. just ask
[11:27] <polter> what's the problem?
[11:29] <cataldus3d> i uninstalled my nevidia restricted driver
[11:29] <cataldus3d> trying to update it
[11:31] <menakcman> can I play "call of Duty" on Ubuntu ?
[11:32] <neville_> menakcman Which version of Call of Duty is it
[11:32] <polter> cataldus3d, well, install it again then
[11:32] <menakcman> CoD - 2
[11:32] <polter> I don't see the problem
[11:33] <cataldus3d> i booted by cd
[11:33] <Glock7> what is that program that graphiclly installs *.deb files
[11:33] <neville_> Is it the patched or unpatched version
[11:33] <cataldus3d> now i installed
[11:33] <Pici> Glock7: gdebi
[11:33] <Glock7> pici: thank you
[11:33] <cataldus3d> is just restart without cd
[11:33] <cataldus3d> ?
[11:33] <menakcman> I think unpathced
[11:34] <polter> cataldus3d, well installing something one the livecd doesnt do anything to the installed os
[11:34] <cataldus3d> :-(
[11:34] <neville_> Okay, take a look at this website
[11:34] <neville_> And ask for help in the channel #winehq
[11:34] <menakcman> ok
[11:34] <cataldus3d> i tried all boot options
[11:34] <neville_> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3794
[11:34] <cataldus3d> when load the nautilus, theres a white screen
[11:34] <polter> cataldus3d, just write "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[11:35] <polter> if it's for newer cards
[11:35] <cataldus3d> ok thanx i will try right now
[11:35] <polter> np hope it works out
[11:35] <polter> gotta go so...
[11:35] <cataldus3d> i hope also
[11:35] <cataldus3d> brb
[11:37] <Glock7> anyone sugguest a general linux book that would be useful for ubuntu and other distros as well?
[11:39] <kate_mins> hello how i can remove package absolute without leftovers from the terminal ?
[11:39] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Glock7, ubuntu has released some text for learning ubuntu linux for free
[11:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Glock7, it's all pdf files
[11:40] <Glock7> thats fine. where would i get them?
[11:40] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kate_mins, aptitude purge
[11:41] <kate_mins> [Hardy]TuTUXG: sorry i am new to Ubuntu , can you write me the full command line ?
[11:41] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kate_mins, which pkg u wanna remove?
[11:41] <kate_mins> nessus
[11:41] <kate_mins> [Hardy]TuTUXG: nessus
[11:42] <cambazz> hello. I am on 64 bit ubuntu, and youtube does not show any videos although I installed the flashplayer
[11:42] <cambazz> what must i dot
[11:42] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kate_mins, sudo aptitude purge nessus
[11:42] <musikgoat> purging can still leave some files around, can it not?
[11:43] <tripppy> pp.mnfu.com
[11:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> musikgoat, u mean user configuration files ? yes
[11:43] <kate_mins> [Hardy]TuTUXG: thanks
[11:43] <foldart> cambazz: did you restart the browser?
[11:43] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kate_mins, np
[11:45] <Frogzoo> cambazz: there is no 64bit flash, that's why you're best off running 32 bit
[11:45] <cambazz> well yes, i restarted the browser.
[11:45] <cambazz> frogzoe: yes it must be a 64 bit problem
[11:46] <cambazz> frogzoe: is there 32bit version of the flash
[11:46] <cambazz> well it did install something
[11:46] <cambazz> that works and it can display some flash
[11:46] <Frogzoo> cambazz: flash runs fine on 32bit, you won't get flash to run on 64bit
[11:46] <Frogzoo> !flash
[11:46] <ubot3> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:47] <foldart> !flash64
[11:47] <ubot3> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:47] <Frogzoo> cambazz: read the ubot3 link - it seems to have a solution
[11:49] <Radar> Hi, I'm setting up dual-screening fine on an 8800GTS, right up until the point right after rebooting my computer after perfectly setting it up.
[11:49] <cataldus3d> thanx for help guys
[11:49] <Radar> It reverts to "low graphics mode"
[11:49] <Radar> And any option I select makes it die. So I launch into recovery console and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through the whole processs.
[11:49] <Radar> It was fun the first time, but this is now the 6th.
[11:50] <Frogzoo> Radar: don't think you'll get dual screen working that way, you need to hand edit xorg.conf afaik
[11:50] <Radar> Frogzoo: I use nvidia-settings for the final touch.
[11:51] <Radar> Which has an option to write to the xorg.conf, and it does.
[11:51] <msn> how do i make sure apt-mirror creates full mirror and not partial mirror
[11:51] <cambazz> and howabout ubuntu and amarok? it wont play internet radio, i think the codec is missing. how do i install restricted codecs
[11:51] <Frogzoo> Radar: you might do best googling for a working config
[11:51] <Frogzoo> !restricted | cambazz
[11:51] <ubot3> cambazz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <Radar> Yeah, I might.
[11:52] <Radar> I don't think it's the config however... the first time it restarts x it's fine, I can restart X a bazillion times.
[11:52] <Radar> It's just when I restart the *computer* it fails.
[11:53] <sean> asjfklasjdk
[11:53] <Radar> sean, I fully agree.
[11:53] <JuJuBee> Better to  use tar or rsync to backup my HD?  I have an external HD (400GB) with plenty of space  as well as access to a server with lots of extra space.
[11:56] <Frogzoo> rsync will be faster
[11:57] <JuJuBee> Can I use rsync on the HD if I am using it?
[11:57] <JuJuBee> It is my laptop and it is only on and connected to my external HD or server while I am at work and using it.
[11:58] <JuJuBee> Im concerned about open files
[11:59] <Radar> JuJuBee: surely there's some time where you can leave it on to rsync, like overnight?
[11:59] <JuJuBee> I bring my laptop home every night.
[11:59] <JuJuBee> It is my personal equip
[11:59] <babo> ok, seriously noob question ... but 7 = rwx right ? so 4=read, 2=write 1=execute ?
[12:00] <mark[oz]> hey guys, how can I autostart something ? e..g runlevel3?
[12:00] <babo> for some reason i thought write = 3
[12:00] <v3ctor> JuJuBee: rsync now to try to get everything, then give yourself 15-20 minutes at the end of work day(after you are done accessing the files) to run it again to get open files you were using
[12:00] <babo> ok got it
[12:01] <mark[oz]> 1 read 2 write 3 execute?
[12:01] <NattyTux_> Where is the startup file located ??? (the one where you insert program to run at system's startup)???
[12:01] <mark[oz]> 4  execute sorry
[12:01] <v3ctor> 4 read 2 write 1 exec
[12:01] <JuJuBee> Will rsync fail on open files? or is there a switch to tell it  not to?
[12:02] <hfmls> hi
[12:02] <hfmls> stream media to xbox360, what can i use ?
[12:03] <Radar> babo: read=1 write=2 execute=4
[12:03] <babo> yeah got ti thanks
[12:04] <xomp> Can someone help me install these wireless drivers before I up and install Vista to have a working wireless adapter? I run tired of old devices not working on Gutsy...
[12:04] <bastid_raZor> NattyTux_; System>Administration>Services
[12:04] <v3ctor> that is wrong
[12:04] <ramrebol_> hi
[12:04] <xomp> I mean this laptop is years old and linux hasn't got a solution yet?
[12:05] <Sjimmie> Hi, whenever I start compiz my window decorations dissapear
[12:05] <heymr> xomp whats your problem?
[12:05] <Jaymac> xomp what laptop/drivers?
[12:05] <Frogzoo> xomp: not all wireless devices have linux drivers..
[12:05] <Sjimmie> I do have emerald --replace running, but i get no window borders! :(
[12:05] <heymr> Sjimmie: do you hav ccsm?
[12:05] <Sjimmie> anyway an idea to look at this?
[12:05] <v3ctor> babo: 4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = exec
[12:05] <Sjimmie> heymr: what is ccsm?
[12:06] <heymr> compiz configuration setting manager
[12:06] <xomp> heymr, I have a wireless adapter that requires orinoco drivers and it doesn't appear that anyone has been able to get them to work in Gutsy
[12:06] <Sjimmie> I see, let me install
[12:06] <Jaymac> sjimmie.. might be an old fix but look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the bit DefaultDepth... it should be 24 I think
[12:06] <xomp> heymr, http://www.nongnu.org/orinoco/news/
[12:06] <Jaymac> that fixed the border problem for me a couple of releases back
[12:06] <heymr> xomp: go to the archlinux wiki and read the part about wireless drivers
[12:06] <Sjimmie> thanks Jaymac I'll check
[12:06] <hfmls> anyonuses fuppes ?
[12:06] <Jaymac> backup your xorg.conf first!
[12:07] <ramrebol_> where can I report about that one file is absent in http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/   ??
[12:07] <Pici> ramrebol_: bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:07] <heymr> xomp: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#Drivers
[12:08] <Sjimmie> Jaymac: alright, there is one line in there with DefaultDepth and that says 24
[12:08] <bastid_raZor> ramrebol_; launchpad.net
[12:08] <Jaymac> Sjimmie: ok that isn;t your problem then
[12:08] <heymr> more specifically xomp: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#orinoco
[12:08] <workserver1> I got a bit of a problem, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:08] <workserver1>  , i have GCC installed isn't that a C compiler ?
[12:08] <Sjimmie> heymr: I have ccsm now, any idea where I can set the window manager?
[12:08] <Pici> workserver1: install the build-essential metapackage
[12:08] <heymr> Sjimmie: check windows decorations
[12:08] <heymr> and then...
[12:08] <xomp> heymr, thanks, I'll give that a try first.
[12:08] <workserver1> apt-get install  build-essential ?
[12:09] <hfmls> anyone with xbox360 ?
[12:09] <Jaymac> workserver1: yes
[12:09] <Pici> workserver1: yes :)
[12:09] <workserver1> ty
[12:09] <workserver1> guys
[12:09] <workserver1> =)
[12:09] <Sjimmie> I enabled window decorations and that worked heymr !
[12:09] <bastid_raZor> off to get the vehicle worked on. :\
[12:09] <Sjimmie> thanks dude!
[12:09] <heogen> HI I have this error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:09] <heogen> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:09] <heymr> xomp: archlinux is cutting edge and will have your driver i bet
[12:10] <heymr> Sjimmie: no prob! glad that worked
[12:10] <heogen> when i try to install a program
[12:10] <heymr> check here if you have any more questions: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users
[12:10] <heogen> somebody may help me
[12:10] <heogen> please
[12:10] <heymr> heogen: whats up?
[12:10] <xomp> heymr, I can't believe that Gutsy doesn't have it to begin with. I mean this laptop is 5 years old at least.
[12:10] <pajamian> heogen: did you try running the suggested command?
[12:11] <heymr> xomp: i don't think age is an issue... its repositories.
[12:11] <Frogzoo> heogen: so run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' like it says...
[12:11] <heogen> heymr i have a a problem man
[12:11] <heymr> did you try downloading from the site? (the link you gave me?)
[12:11] <heymr> heogen: thats what i was refering to.. ;)
[12:11] <heogen> I dont know how can run it
[12:11] <jrib> heogen: open a terminal
[12:11] <heymr> heogen: open a terminal and paste that command in
[12:11] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xomp, if the hardware venders dont offer their spec, there are really much linux could do
[12:11] <pajamian> heogen: applications / accessories / terminal, then type it in.
[12:12] <xomp> heymr, this looks like I need some windows files to tie in with the linux ones :( I'm not sure how to understand this wiki article :/
[12:12] <heogen> ok
[12:12] <heogen> i will do right now
[12:12] <heymr> xomp: ndiswrapper?]
[12:12] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> xomp, if the hardware venders dont offer their spec, there are really *not so* much linux could do
[12:12] <heogen> hold on
[12:12] <xomp> heymr, so I need ndiswrapper then?
[12:12] <heymr> [Hardy]TuTUXG: thats why that made ndiswrapper and opensourse or reverse engeneered drivers ;)
[12:13] <heymr> xomp: if thats what the wiki says i suppose so
[12:13] <heymr> i have all intel. lucky me
[12:13] <workserver1> i now get this error : E: Couldn't find package libpcap
[12:13] <workserver1>  .... bit i have libpcap0.8 installed =/
[12:13] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> heymr, that's right, but with open spec hw it would be much easier
[12:13] <workserver1> but*
[12:13] <heymr> wait, it says orinco is in the kernel
[12:13] <jrib> workserver1: what gives you that error?
[12:13] <heymr> [Hardy]TuTUXG: you got that right1 :]
[12:13] <workserver1> honeyd
[12:13] <xomp> heymr, ok, I guess I got lost because it's mentioning archlinux specific things first, but if you get down to brass tacks it does look like it's what I need.
[12:14] <heogen> Hey guys
[12:14] <jrib> workserver1: what exactly do you type to get the error?
[12:14] <jrib> !who | workserver1
[12:14] <ubot3> workserver1: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:14] <heogen> look when a write the command
[12:14] <heogen>   jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip
[12:14] <heogen> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[12:14] <heogen> Please visit
[12:14] <heogen>     http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/
[12:14] <heogen> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[12:14] <FloodBot2> heogen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <heymr> xomp: run this in the terminal:   uname 'r
[12:14] <heymr> er wait
[12:14] <workserver1> jrib: ./configure
[12:14] <heymr> uname `r
[12:14] <Pici> workserver1: honeyd looks like its in the repositories to me.
[12:14] <jrib> !info honeyd | workserver1
[12:14] <heymr> xomp: check if u have the latest kernel
[12:14] <heogen> ok
[12:14] <ubot3> workserver1: honeyd: Small daemon that creates virtual hosts simulating their services and behaviour. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5b-1 (gutsy), package size 433 kB, installed size 1688 kB
[12:14] <mouser_> re all!
[12:15] <jrib> workserver1: there's no need to compile it, use the package in the repositories
[12:15] <xomp> heymr, did that and I'm at a ">" prompt
[12:15] <mouser_> hello from Russian!
[12:15] <workserver1> Pici: S**t ... i didn't think of that -.-
[12:15] <heymr> xomp try it with the `
[12:15] <heymr> uname `r
[12:15] <heymr> i think?
[12:15] <jrib> heymr: you want: uname -r
[12:15] <brobostigon> uname -r
[12:15] <v3ctor> xomp: `
[12:15] <heymr> ok, thanls
[12:16] <heymr> sorry! my bad
[12:16] <xomp> 2.6.22-14-generic
[12:16] <pajamian> xomp: ctrl-c to get back to the normal prompt
[12:16] <heymr> xomp: ok, the recent one is  ..  .24 i think
[12:16] <heymr> kernel.org...
[12:17] <Pici> heymr: There should be no reason to install a custom built kernel for a new user.
[12:17] <heymr>  2.6.24.3  <--  latest, you have
[12:17] <xomp> heymr, I just installed a grip of updates yesterday. I'm not privy to linux kernels and all. I couldn't build my own if my life depended on it lol
[12:17] <kris_ph> Can anybody tell me here if nagios can significantly create congestion to LAN?
[12:18] <Pici> heymr: 2.6.24 is only supported in Hardy currently, and that is not yet publically released.
[12:18] <heymr> Pici: well... it would cut down on furture software difficulties...
[12:18] <v3ctor> kris_ph: is it not too bad, but it does generate quite a bit of traffic
[12:18] <workserver1> will "ps" bring up background processes too ?
[12:18] <jrib> workserver1: yes
[12:18] <workserver1> odd
[12:18] <heymr> Pici: publically, as in the ubuntu community?
[12:18] <workserver1> jrib: it says honeyd is running as a background process ... yet i don't see it
[12:18] <heymr> Pici: caseu its the latest at kernel.org...
[12:18] <Pici> heymr: As in its still in alpha and not yet 'released'
[12:19] <heymr> Pici: oh ok
[12:19] <heymr> wei
[12:19] <heymr> rd
[12:19] <Pici> heymr: I'm speaking about the Ubuntu version, not the kernel.
[12:19] <jrib> workserver1: how are you looking?
[12:19] <workserver1> just typing ps
[12:19] <heymr> Pici: ok...
[12:19] <jrib> workserver1: try: ps -ef | grep honey
[12:19] <kris_ph> v3ctor: ah.. really? Okay.. if that would be the case...I will not be installing it anymore..
[12:19] <heymr> well, the latest stable version is as said at kernel.org...
[12:19] <workserver1> jrib: ty
[12:20] <xomp> wouldn't you know that ndiswrapper wants my gutsy cd? I have no clue where that is lolol
[12:20] <v3ctor> workserver1: easiest way to see background process is with `jobs` command
[12:20] <jrib> xomp: disable the cd repository in your Software Sources
[12:20] <pajamian> xomp: you can disable the cd repository, then it will get it off the net.
[12:20] <xomp> jrib, ahh okey.
[12:21] <Alaerus> I've installed Ubuntu! and the wi-fi is working :).. always working.. I don't know how to switch it off but if I do will I be able ti switch it on again.. so.. how to instal Gaim.. or Pidgen on Ubuntu?
[12:22] <Radar> Alaerus: the same way you install everything else: apt-get install thing
[12:22] <jrib> Alaerus: pidgin is already installed.  Check you Internet menu
[12:22] <xomp> ok, ndiswrapper is installed.. lol
[12:22] <Balrok^^> hi all
[12:22] <Alaerus> oh!
[12:22] <vinnir> hi does anyone know of a system administrator based Ubuntu distro almost like Ubuntu Ultimate
[12:22] <Alaerus> yes
[12:22] <Alaerus> thanj you :)
[12:22] <heymr> Alaerus: Accesories > Add/Remove  .. lol
[12:22] <kris_ph> Is there a way to determine what causes reboot/shutdown to ubuntu server?
[12:23] <jrib> vinnir: what exactly do you mean by a "system administrator based ubuntu distro"
[12:23] <Balrok^^> Have someone an X-fi xtreme audio soundcard installed on his ubuntu?
[12:23] <vinnir> one that would have administrative utlities and toolkits
[12:23] <heymr> (whats a good channel for video editing?)
[12:23] <jrib> vinnir: ubuntu
[12:23] <mad_max02> Balrok^^, dude check ubuntuforums. I think that some people got it working.
[12:24] <vinnir> hahaha ubuntu yes but there would be a lot of padding
[12:24] <Vegardjj> Can anyone help me with my external disk? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59230/
[12:24] <xomp> ok, after installing ndiswrapper I don't see any change. Am I to do something? lol
[12:24] <jrib> !wifi > xomp (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:24] <heymr> xomp: ndiswrapper wraps around a windows driver
[12:25] <heymr> you need a windows driver
[12:25] <xomp> I think the  bot is broken. I got 2 messages lol
[12:25] <LollinopiL> which program could i use to open pdf files ?
[12:25] <lng> hi! why there's no prompt for root password during install?
[12:25] <jrib> xomp: which bots sent you messages?
[12:25] <jrib> !root | lng
[12:25] <ubot3> lng: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:25] <xomp> jrib, ubot3 and ubotu
[12:25] <jrib> xomp: thanks, I'll look into it
[12:26] <Balrok^^> Vegardjj: what kernel you have?
[12:26] <LollinopiL> which program could i use to open pdf files ?
[12:26] <heymr> LollinopiL: evince
[12:26] <v3ctor> LollinopiL: xpdf, kpdf, acroread...
[12:27] <heymr> evince is gtk app.. comes with ubuntu
[12:27] <LollinopiL> uhm well, evince is it in add-remove menu or in synapt packages ?
[12:27] <lng> can't issue '$ apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient12-dev': E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied); E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:27] <Balrok^^> mad_max02: i checked it but i didn't find nothing about it
[12:27] <heymr> LollinopiL: its installed
[12:27] <pajamian> evince is installed by default
[12:28] <heymr> LollinopiL: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/
[12:28] <arvind> lng: use sudo
[12:28] <LollinopiL> hey is it document's viewer ?
[12:28] <v3ctor> lng: sudo aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient12-dev
[12:28] <heymr> LollinopiL: yes
[12:28] <LollinopiL> uhm okz ...
[12:28] <lng> v3ctor: what is aptitude?
[12:28] <xomp> jrib, the part of that wiki that says "Some Wi-Fi Cards work out of the box, specifically the ones with the Orinoko, Prism2 or Atheros chipsets (some Prism cards may not work out of the box)." is all LIES!!! haha :)
[12:28] <TuTUXG_> !aptitude
[12:28] <ubot3> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:28] <v3ctor> lng: because it is superior
[12:29] <jrib> xomp: well I'm sure *some* do
[12:29] <arvind> lng:: is a front end of apt
[12:29] <xomp> hehe
[12:29] <scorpion032> hi i installed ubuntu on dell inspiron 1525, but most of the hard disk space is now in ubuntu. how do i change
[12:29] <heymr> scorpion032: use a gparted livecd
[12:29] <arvind> lng:: aptitude is a front end of apt
[12:30] <heymr> scorpion032: http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[12:30] <TuTUXG_> !cow
[12:30] <ubot3> Factoid cow not found
[12:30] <scorpion032> heymr:i have a ubuntu livecd
[12:30] <TuTUXG_> !cowpower
[12:30] <ubot3> Factoid cowpower not found
[12:31] <heymr> scorpion032: ok... so? you want to squeeze the ubuntu?
[12:31] <lng> v3ctor: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:31] <jrib> !fishing | TuTUXG_
[12:31] <ubot3> TuTUXG_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:31] <scorpion032> heymr: yes
[12:31] <heymr> scorpion032: http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[12:31] <TuTUXG_> jrib, okok
[12:31] <heymr> use this partition editor live cd
[12:31] <doug_> what is oem and reg versions?
[12:31] <scorpion032> heymr: ok... coool
[12:31] <xomp> strange.. when I try to follow this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/ I get 403 Forbidden and the wiki refers to it as the very FIRST step to easily get your wireless network up and running... I am vexed!!!
[12:31] <v3ctor> lng: some other 'apt' process is running
[12:31] <heymr> scorpion032: you cannot squeeze down the space within ubuntu, ext3 will be mounted
[12:32] <jrib> xomp: loads ok here
[12:32] <scorpion032> heymr: ok can i also not squeeze it from within vista
[12:32] <heogen> my problem was with  Java, now that ok.
[12:32] <jrib> xomp: what version of ubuntu?
[12:32] <xomp> that clearly indicates to me that I must stay with windows :( I don't have the cognitive capacity to keep up with linux lol
[12:32] <hfmls> hi
[12:32] <xomp> jrib, it's Gutsy Gibbon
[12:32] <lng> v3ctor: tnx
[12:32] <hfmls> does this error configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:32] <hfmls>  means i have t installg++ ?
[12:32] <heymr> scorpion032: you want to "shrink" it. and yeah, vista has a partition editor i bet...
[12:33] <jrib> xomp: does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy work okay?
[12:33] <jrib> hfmls: what are you compiling?
[12:33] <heymr> scorpion032: livecd would be best option
[12:33] <hfmls> trying to install fuppes
[12:33] <xomp> jrib, nope, unable to establish a connection to the server :(
[12:33] <arvind> hfmls, state ur problem in a single line
[12:33] <coolfir1> hi all
[12:33] <heymr> scorpion032: actually idon't know, you could google a program for windows
[12:33] <ConstyXIV> is it possible to use RDP to download files to a ubuntu machine from a windows box?
[12:33] <jrib> !compile > hfmls (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:33] <xomp> jrib, reloaded and now it's working :/
[12:33] <jrib> hfmls: you need to install the build-essential package
[12:33] <xomp> I hate the interwebs at times
[12:33] <heymr> coolfir1: whats up?
[12:34] <bazhang> xomp works here ;]
[12:34] <can> hello how do I install sun-jdk-docs with apt get
[12:34] <scorpion032> heymr: Yes indeed, i see that as unallocated partition in vista... so if i change may be i'll lose ubuntu entirely
[12:34] <heymr> can you could search synaptic or read the manuel for package search with apt-get
[12:34] <hfmls> ok, installed g++ and it worked. anyone using fuppes? to stream media ?
[12:34] <heymr> scorpion032: vista can't read everything
[12:35] <scorpion032> how do i boot into vista from within ubuntu?
[12:35] <xomp> jrib, I believe I have an Intel wireless adapter and not a broadcom.
[12:35] <bazhang> Tick the box under Enabled to enable the firmware in System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager xomp
[12:35] <ConstyXIV> can, either sudo apt-get install sun-jdk-docs or look for it in synaptic
[12:35] <scorpion032> which VMwares do i need to use
[12:35] <jrib> xomp: so look for it in the original wifi page
[12:35] <bazhang> scorpion032: vmware-server
[12:36] <xomp> bazhang, in restricked driver manager it tells me I don't need any restricted drivers :s
[12:36] <bazhang> xomp:  what does lspci tell you
[12:36] <bazhang> xomp dont paste here just tell the card name
[12:36] <scorpion032> bazhang: i guess there are many which one is good and stable
[12:36] <xomp> 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VM (KM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
[12:36] <pajamian> xomp: that's the wired controller
[12:36] <bazhang> scorpion032: the one I just told you
[12:37] <can> ConstyXIV: problem is that I dont know the package name, not that i dont know how to use synaptic.
[12:37] <can> both aptget and synaptic can not find sun-jdk-docs
[12:37] <xomp> pajamian, I don't see any other network controllers listed in lspci :(
[12:37] <pajamian> xomp: paste the entire output of lspci in the pastebin
[12:38] <danand> xomp - also see if sudo lshw gives any more info
[12:38] <bazhang> I wish pastebinit came by default ;[
[12:38] <xomp> pajamian, http://pastebin.com/m39df7791
[12:39] <xomp> pajamian, I threw in a iwconfig in there too for good measure :P (it was an accident)
[12:39] <pajamian> xomp: reboot and go into the CMOS setup, check that the wireless adapter is properly enabled.
[12:39] <aoupi> Is it possible to tell gdm to not ask for password for a certain user(guest)?
[12:39] <xomp> danand, that lshw is a lot like dmesg that I used yesterday heh
[12:39] <lng> is there kind of use flags in Ubuntu?
[12:39] <xomp> pajamian, ok, I'll do that now. Thanks :)
[12:40] <xomp> I swear if it's something that simple I will cry
[12:40] <xomp> brb
[12:40] <ghetto[kernel]> hi, i have xubuntu feitsy gibon 7.04, how can i upgrade it to xubuntu gutsy gibons?
[12:40] <ArthurArchnix> I need help editing sudoers ... I want all users to be able to run the command "modprobe -r psmouse" and "modprobe psmouse". I'd like to bind these to keyboard shortcuts for them. And I don't want them to be asked for a password. I can't get it to work.
[12:41] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: still working on that?
[12:41] <pajamian> ghetto[kernel]: open the upgrade manager and click on the button that is in there for upgrading.
[12:42] <LollinopiL> i have installed acrobat from the repository of MEDIBUNTU, how can i run it now? in application - office there's not the icon !
[12:43] <ghetto[kernel]> pajamian,  thx im on it now, i did that a few mins ago but didnt showed me anything, maybe cause i changed ftp repository :)
[12:43] <pajamian> LollinopiL: acroread from the terminal.  I will tell you now that I used to use it and it's buggy, has used up all my RAM with some memory leak while browsing a logn PDF file.
[12:43] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: Yeah. Thought I had it solved yesterday night, but then I turned the machine off, and when i woke up it didn't work. So I was probably tired, entered sudo a few times, then didn't enter it once and figured I'd solved it.
[12:43] <LollinopiL> and u removed it paja ?
[12:44] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: I'm just guessing here.. but can't you create a script that contains the command and use the setuid-bit with root as owner.. there are probably some very big security concerns with this.. it's an idea though
[12:44] <pajamian> LollinopiL: nah, I stopped using it, and eventually changed from Fedora Core to ubuntu and didn't bother installing it again.
[12:45] <v3ctor> groupadd modprb ; then add: %modprb ALL =
[12:45] <v3ctor> groupadd modprb ; then add: %modprb ALL = 08:36 < pajamian> xomp: that's the wired controller
[12:45] <LollinopiL> okz thx
[12:45] <v3ctor> wtf
[12:45] <v3ctor> hate laptop touchpads
[12:45] <ArthurArchnix> I've given up with the script... it should be possible to give the command "modprobe -r" an alias like UNLOAD in sudoers then allow ALL   ALL: NOPASSWD: UNLOAD  but that's not working.
[12:45] <pajamian> v3ctor: hehehe
[12:45] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: Sorry, typed that before I saw your comment.
[12:46] <LollinopiL> paja is there a way to create a desktop icon ? ? ?
[12:46] <v3ctor> hehe...sudo rmmod psmouse too car of that
[12:46] <pajamian> LollinopiL: right click on desktop and select create launcher.
[12:46] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: I did create a script, owned by root:root, executable by everyone, with the command modprobe -r psmouse .. but it still demanded a password
[12:47] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: with the setuid bit set?
[12:47] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: did you chown the script 4755?
[12:47] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: just found some interesting info on how easy it is to exploit these kinds of scripts.. some nice reading here.. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part4/section-7.html
[12:47] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: pajamian no, the cript was chowned 755 and put into a directory that /etc/sudoers was supposed to allow everyone to execute commands without entering a password.
[12:47] <pajamian> ...at least I think suid is 4
[12:48] <v3ctor> pajamian: it is
[12:48] <LollinopiL> paja YEAH
[12:48] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: chown it to 4755 and try
[12:48] <pajamian> v3ctor: coll, that was from memory, hehehe
[12:48] <v3ctor> did they change something, suid doesn't work with scripts
[12:48] <jrib> pajamian: suid won't work on scripts
[12:48] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: right click on the script in nautilus, look at the permissions tab and set the "setuid" thingy.. that way the script will be run as if the owner had run it.. ie root
[12:48] <pajamian> bah
[12:48] <pajamian> nm, then
[12:48] <Slart> oh.. it doesn't?.. figures..
[12:49] <Vegardjj> Balrok^^: My kernel is 2.6.20-16-386
[12:49] <pajamian> heh, you could write a program in C and compile it, LoL
[12:49] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: If i read that link correctly, it suggests that this setuid thing is opening up a security hole. And I'd be better off trying to get sudo to execute this for me.
[12:50] <ArthurArchnix> But I'll give it a try anyway. At this point I just want to see something work.
[12:50] <jerzy> can somebody tell me if exist linux driver for XDpicture build in laptop Ricoh card reader
[12:50] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: suid can have security risks if you don't know what you're doing with it.  But sometimes you just need to use it to solve problems like these.
[12:51] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: indeed... that's why I warned you.. but if it's a computer standing in your cellar without a network connection.. with only your only son using it.. and you standing next to him with a bat.. it might be worth the risk =)
[12:51] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: but as others have pointed out it won't work anyways.
[12:51] <jerzy> a
[12:52] <yeonhoo> Im trying to install a plug-in on eclipse but there is a proxy then I can update. Where can I find proxy configuration like mozilla does?
[12:52] <jerzy> a'm interested too how to get to work finger print reader on lenovo R61i, lspci don't show any such device in the output
[12:53] <aoupi> can I log in as another users in a window whithout logging out?
[12:53] <TuTUXG__> jerzy, try thinkwiki.org
[12:53] <zod_> is it poseble to download and play css in ubuntu?
[12:53] <rsk> yes zod_
[12:53] <jrib> aoupi: yes, pass some switches to gdmflexiserver
[12:53] <zod_> *s
[12:53] <jrib> zod_: see the entry in winehq's appdb
[12:53] <rsk> css and cs
[12:53] <aoupi> jrib: ok, thanks
[12:53] <zod_> good thx ppls
[12:54] <jerzy> tutuxg you mean first or second question
[12:54] <heogen>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Hi Im trying to update wine and the public key is the available give me this error NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[12:54] <heogen>                                                                                                  
[12:54] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: add a group like modprb, then add the line "%modprb ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe" to /etc/sudoers, then add the users to modprb group
[12:54] <heogen> is not available
[12:54] <jrib> aoupi: gdmflexiserver -nl   is what I do
[12:54] <xomp> pajamian, I didn't see an option to enable the wireless in my BIOS
[12:54] <heogen> someone can help me please
[12:55] <xomp> pajamian, I have an compaq evo n610c and the wireless card is screwed into the top cover of the laptop.
[12:55] <rsk> someone read my mind please
[12:55] <jrib> !enter | heogen
[12:55] <ubot3> heogen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:55] <v3ctor> rsk: eww..you sicko
[12:55] <rsk> right on
[12:57] <heogen> somebody knows what can i do
[12:57] <jrib> heogen: you're trying to use the winehq repositories?
[12:58] <heogen> no
[12:58] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: current the line reads %powerdev       ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/modprobe -r psmouse     but only because I was experimenting. Previously it pointed to /usr/bin/script/tpad_unload.sh   and all that script did was do: sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[12:58] <heogen> I try to update wine
[12:58] <xomp> thanks to everyone who has helped me, I have no other choice but to go back to windows because it's imperative to get my wireless working and I don't see that happening in the future with this laptop.
[12:58] <jrib> heogen: really?  pastebin what 'apt-cache policy wine' returns please
[12:58] <heogen> and say me the public key is the available
[12:58] <xomp> keep up the good work on linux though. I was impressed :)
[12:58] <ArthurArchnix> Slart: I've only got a ping pong paddle, so that means no suid.
[12:58] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: you don't want the -r in sudoers file
[12:58] <heogen> ok
[12:58] <jrib> !who | heogen
[12:58] <ubot3> heogen: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:58] <heogen> thank you jrib
[12:58] <bazhang> xomp seems you have no wireless in that computer
[12:59] <pajamian> xomp: well, the fact that it didn't show in lspci seems to indicate that the wireless adapter is not there or is not functioning.
[12:59] <Slart> ArthurArchnix: =).. I'm googling for more info on this.. some sites suggest writing a small c program.. but there has to be an easier way
[12:59] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: I thought I had to specify the full command with options, otherwise my users could modprobe -r everything, which would be... less than ideal.
[12:59] <heogen> ubot3 ok. Im sorry man
[12:59] <ubot3> heogen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:59] <lng> how to control compile options?
[13:00] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: the man page says something about doing that, or else adding "" to the end to prevent users from specifying any command options.
[13:00] <jrib> lng: pass switches to gcc.  Can you be more specific as to what you want to do?
[13:01] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: my fault, i didn;t see the psmouse on the next line
[13:01] <lng> jrib: just in general... in Gentoo i might set USE flags telling portage what to get
[13:02] <veli6> hi
[13:02] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: that entry did not work?
[13:02] <jrib> lng: deb packages are binaries, you don't compile them when you install stuff with apt
[13:02] <ArthurArchnix> The one I pasted?
[13:02] <v3ctor> yes
[13:02] <JuJuBee> Besides /dev /mnt /proc /media, what other dirs should I exclude from a backup?
[13:02] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  /tmp ?
[13:03] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: 'fraid not
[13:03] <JuJuBee> Oh yea, thanks for reminding me.
[13:03] <lng> jrib: i need to control it
[13:03] <jrib> lng: what is "it"?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  /var/cache/apt perhaps also
[13:03] <pajamian> lng: it's already compiled, there's nothign to control
[13:04] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: it may be a syntax issue, try adding spaces between 'ALL = NOPASSWD'
[13:04] <Pici> JuJuBee: /lost+found/ perhaps
[13:04] <lng> jrib: probably i need to get it from sources?
[13:04] <JuJuBee> /var/tmp ?
[13:04] <pajamian> lng: what's "it"?
[13:04] <qasim> hi I am using gutsy under gnome and whenever i plugin my usb disk it does not show up on the desktop or under /disk/media, any idea why is this happening?
[13:04] <judgen> I need help. when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i dont get to choose the video driver. It worked in gutsy but not now
[13:05] <JuJuBee> Dr_willis : how about all of /var/cache ?
[13:05] <Pici> judgen: It worked in Gutsy... what are you running now?
[13:05] <jrib> lng: you are probably looking for something like apt-build, but I don't really see the point
[13:05] <pajamian> judgen: what version are you running now?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  Possibially
[13:05] <judgen> Pici, hardy
[13:05] <judgen> pajamian, hardy
[13:05] <Pici> judgen: #ubuntu+1 please
[13:05] <pajamian> !hardy | judgen
[13:05] <ubot3> judgen: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:05] <cliebow_> anyone using ldap in gutsy?
[13:05] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: ok
[13:06] <judgen> lol i thought hardy was released
[13:06] <ArthurArchnix> I'm just switching back and ofrther between users here
[13:06] <nikea> i have a chroot environment in ubuntu i want to display x applications, how do i do that? when i do export DISPLAY=locahost:1 and xcalc it just doesn't display. outside of chroot i have done Xhost -ac :1
[13:06] <pajamian> judgen: next month
[13:06] <judgen> ok
[13:06] <Pici> judgen: Nope.
[13:06] <judgen> it seems gutsy kernel has problems with my NIC so im forced to use hardy, as it seems to work there
[13:07] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: have you tried creating a script with the exact command you want and running it under sudo?  then if it works you can add sudo permissions just for that script to the sudoers file?
[13:07] <romulobr> hi, i have 150MB of free space on my / partition and I need more, is there anything I can do?
[13:07] <nocturn> How can I make a USB bootable stick with a LiveCD environment?
[13:07] <doug_> is there a WoW channel?
[13:07] <Dr_willis> romulobr,  check /var/cache/apt  and remove old packages there.
[13:07] <pajamian> judgen: that's fine but you need to get support in #ubuntu+1 for it.
[13:08] <Leerok> Wow, big channel.
[13:08] <Leerok> So, anyone know how to use debtorrent?
[13:08] <romulobr> how can I know wich is old and new packages?
[13:08] <suxxor> hello
[13:09] <suxxor> i have recently install
[13:09] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: the first thing I tried. If the command contains sudo you can call it from the terminal and not get asked for sudo password. If you call it from gnome, however, you get prompted for password. I think the script has to hook into xinit in some way to check permissions in order to work with sudo and sudoers... I'm afraid that is beyond me. So I thought I'd try this command alias route.
[13:09] <suxxor> XAMPP
[13:09] <suxxor> but the i type
[13:09] <suxxor> localhost
[13:09] <suxxor> in browser
[13:09] <Dr_willis> romulobr,  that dir keeps a copy of all the packages you have downloaded/isntalled - it can get quite big with old unneeded .deb files
[13:09] <suxxor> it shows me
[13:09] <suxxor> Index of /
[13:09] <suxxor> [ICO]	Name	Last modified	Size	Description
[13:09] <suxxor> [DIR]	apache2-default/	20-Nov-2004 22:16 	-
[13:09] <suxxor> [DIR]	ppc.setup/	06-Mar-2008 21:30 	-
[13:09] <suxxor> Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 Server at localhost Port 80
[13:09] <FloodBot2> suxxor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <suxxor> of apache documents
[13:10] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: what if you do something like: sh -c 'sudo myscript' from gnome?
[13:10] <suxxor> my question is how to turn of apache
[13:10] <lordleemo> suxxor: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[13:11] <romulobr> thanks a lot, now I have 360 MB of free space, still not enough... any way?
[13:11] <heogen> Hi how can open this program pidgin-2.3.0.tar.bz2
[13:11] <Dr_willis> romulobr,  remove junk :)
[13:11] <pajamian> heogen: why did you get a tarball for pidgin?
[13:11] <heogen> when I download a program from Internet i can run it
[13:12] <romulobr> did that...
[13:12] <pajamian> heogen: pidgen comes with ubuntu installed by default, you don't need to download it from the internet.
[13:12] <heogen> pajamian from internet
[13:12] <Dr_willis> heogen,  you downloaded the SOURCE  for a program.  with that file.
[13:12] <kes0> help
[13:12] <jrib> heogen: did you not find pidgin when you went to your menu:  Applications -> Internet -> Pidgin  ?
[13:12] <kes0> ops
[13:12] <]Spectre[> hello
[13:12] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: what does sh -c do?
[13:12] <heogen> no
[13:12] <heogen> jrib no
[13:12] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: launches a shell (bash) and runs the corresponding command in it.
[13:13] <romulobr> I miscalculated the space I would use... actually, ubuntu was my second system and now it is my first.
[13:13] <jrib> heogen: what ubuntu are you running?
[13:13] <heogen> jrib 6.10
[13:13] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: I did something similar, i did xterm -e *.sh   then xterm would pop up and prompt for a password
[13:13] <jrib> heogen: is this a fresh install?
[13:13] <pajamian> heogen: that's an old version, it's called gaim in that version.
[13:13] <Leerok> Anyone installing Hardy?
[13:14] <jrib> !hardy | Leerok
[13:14] <ubot3> Leerok: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:14] <romulobr> I have already moved all media files to other partition, I have a very slow connection and my system is the way I like it, I don't want to reinstall, at least not before 8.04 release
[13:14] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: xterm is different from sh.
[13:14] <Leerok> Ah, handy to know.
[13:14] <heogen> pajamiam yeah is an old version gaim
[13:14] <xphisher> i'm having some playback issues.. it is flickering in Ubuntu 7.10.. is there anyone that can help?
[13:14] <heogen> and i want to use yahoo messenger for to inside to the chat rooms
[13:14] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: and from what I read in order to get around that you have to run the command through the xinit or something which contains the current priveleges for the user... I'm sorry, it was all beyond me. Ok, well, I'm going to give it a try. :)
[13:15] <pajamian> heogen: you can compile pidgin in 6.10 but I wouldn't recommend it.  Either use gaim or upgrade to 7.10 (gutsy gibbon) which comes with pidgin.
[13:15] <sexciiRiCan38> hello!
[13:15] <brobostigon> heogen: gaim definatly does yahoo
[13:15] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[13:15] <eth01> it does indeed.
[13:15] <heogen> pajamian I did update to 7.10
[13:16] <seisen> heogen they changed name from gaim to pidgin because of legal issues, essentially its the same program just new name
[13:16] <heogen> and i cant to use pidgin
[13:16] <eth01> nod
[13:16] <pajamian> heogen: then if you're running 7.10 you can install pidgin with: apt-get install pidgin
[13:16] <pajamian> ...from the terminal
[13:16] <pajamian> errrr
[13:16] <ArthurArchnix> Hi Jack_Sparrow  I misinformed you last night when I claimed I go the script working without entering sudo. Please disregard everything I said if you took it to heart.
[13:16] <jrib> heogen: what is the output of the command 'lsb_release -c'?
[13:16] <pajamian> prefix with sudo
[13:16] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[13:16] <xphisher> isn't pidgin installed by default?
[13:16] <eth01> right
[13:17] <pajamian> xphisher: it is, but I'm not sure it would be installed after an upgrade.
[13:17] <heogen> pajamian give me error
[13:17] <heogen> whan a trying to do it
[13:17] <pajamian> heogen: what error?
[13:17] <heogen> hold on
[13:17] <heogen> pajamian
[13:17] <nocturn> Can anyone give me a hint how I can create a bootable USB stick that has a Live Ubuntu environment on it?
[13:18] <brobostigon> !install | nocturn
[13:18] <ubot3> nocturn: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:18] <heogen> pajamian dont find the package pidgin
[13:18] <pajamian> heogen: then you either don't have the repository enabled or you're not running 7.10
[13:18] <Nilbus> I have 2 new laptops where the splash screen is black during boot and shutdown.  Framebuffer seems to work with the live-cd, so I'm not sure what might be wrong.  Any ideas?
[13:18] <heogen> pajamian when a wrote sudo apt-get install pidgin
[13:18] <nocturn> brobostigon: Thanks, but that's not what I'm looking for
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> nocturn, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[13:19] <heogen> pajamian what do you suggest me
[13:19] <heogen> ?
[13:19] <nocturn> Thanks Jack_Sparrow, can't it be done easier?  I need to make a lot of drives and we do not need the persistence
[13:19] <brobostigon> heogen: get 7.10. it has pidgin by default,
[13:20] <pajamian> anyone: what's the command that tells you what version of ubuntu you're running again?
[13:20] <heogen> hbrobostigon just to update my ubuntu?
[13:20] <heogen> and that set
[13:20] <jrib> pajamian: lsb_release -c
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> nocturn, it isnt hard to do.. If you need to do a bunch, write a script
[13:21] <brobostigon> heogen: install and or update to 7.10. it has pidgin by default.
[13:21] <pajamian> heogen: what do you get with the command: lsb_release -c
[13:21] <pajamian> thanks jrib
[13:21] <puppetmaster> which protocol 4rom the followings uses tow ports: ‫‪A. NTP‬‬
[13:21] <puppetmaster> ‫‪B. SSH‬‬
[13:21] <puppetmaster> ‫‪C. IMAP‬‬
[13:21] <puppetmaster> ‫‪D. Telnet‬‬
[13:21] <puppetmaster> ‫‪E. FTP‬‬
[13:21] <FloodBot2> puppetmaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <heogen> pajamian i dont know
[13:22] <nocturn> Jack_Sparrow: I remeber on the debian install CD, you could just put boot.img.gz on it and copy the iso on there
[13:22] <puppetmaster> OK
[13:22] <nocturn> it booted then...
[13:22] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: did you put the full path to modprobe in the script?
[13:22] <jrib> puppetmaster: what are you doing?
[13:22] <AudioSenseCD> hi guys gud am to all of you
[13:22] <Gatestone> Is there any one better-than-googling-around resource for starting Linux development? The best tutorial/course on the Web?
[13:22] <pajamian> heogen: what you can't type the command in a terminal and tell me the output?
[13:22] <AudioSenseCD> !seen Jack_Sparrow
[13:22] <ubot3> AudioSenseCD: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> nocturn, I gave you instructions on how to do it.  Feel free to figure out an easier way and let me know.  Seriously
[13:23] <AudioSenseCD> Gatestone: try wiki
[13:23] <lawangombo21> keren
[13:23] <puppetmaster> everyone I need help wz this question
[13:23] <puppetmaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59242/
[13:24] <ArthurArchnix> I seem to have hit the wrong button when switching users
[13:24] <Gatestone> AudioSenseCD: which Wiki?
[13:24] <heogen> brobostigon im now update to ubuntu 6.10 to 7.10
[13:24] <ArthurArchnix> But progress is being made!
[13:24] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: any luck?
[13:24] <Pici> puppetmaster: Thats not an appropriate question for this channel, try ##networking or perhaps even #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:24] <AudioSenseCD> Gatestone: wikipedia
[13:24] <erawfish_> puppetmaster: you are supposed to do your homework on your own
[13:24] <puppetmaster> that's not a homework
[13:24] <brobostigon> heogen: ok.
[13:24] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: i just tested the steps i gave you, and it worked here
[13:25] <puppetmaster> it's a question
[13:25] <puppetmaster> that i want to know
[13:25] <heogen> pajamian Codename:       feisty
[13:25] <ArthurArchnix> my standard user can now in a terminal "sudo modprobe -r psmouse" and "sudo modprobe psmouse"   He cannot modprobe any other modules... very good.
[13:25] <lawangombo21> keren
[13:25] <heogen> pajamian this is the information when a wrote the command
[13:25] <heogen> Codename:       feisty
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> heogen, Are you doing a fresh install? or are you going directly from 610 to 710
[13:25] <ArthurArchnix> also, I can create a launcher on the desktop that calls gksudo modprobe psmouse and that works as well.
[13:26] <pajamian> heogen: you need to upgrade one more time, you're on 7.04 which is still on gaim.  Again, either use gaim, or upgrade to gutsy.
[13:26] <ArthurArchnix> all that remains, is gksudo modprobe -r psmouse does not work. I think it isn't getting the -r through. I wonder if I should change the command in /etc/sudoers to rmmod
[13:26] <heogen> jack_sparrow i went to the update inside the system
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> heogen, great..
[13:26] <brobostigon> !upgrade | heogen
[13:26] <ubot3> heogen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:26] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: I think you were right about there being a syntax error. Because I've made no other changes.
[13:27] <heogen> ok
[13:27] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: don't know, but it does look like you're making progress.
[13:27] <heogen> ubot3 ok. but the system say me that has a new update to 7.10
[13:27] <ubot3> heogen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:27] <heogen> and i do it
[13:28] <ArthurArchnix> pajamian: Yes, you and v3ctor have both been great. Thanks much. I'm gonna change modprobe -r in my /etc/sudoers to rmmod and I think I'll have this problem licked.
[13:28] <pajamian> heogen: if you were on 6.10 before then it makes sense, the upgrade button upgrades by one version which would have brought you to 7.04 (fiesty) you need to do the upgrade again to get to gutsy.
[13:28] <heogen> ubot3 lolololol dont worry you are intelligent
[13:28] <ubot3> heogen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:28] <v3ctor> ArthurArchnix: sounds good
[13:28] <pajamian> ArthurArchnix: cool
[13:29] <heogen> pajamian ok thank you
[13:29] <heogen> i will do
[13:29] <pajamian> heogen: also get ready, there will be another upgrade in about a month's time when hardy is released.
[13:30] <pajamian> ok, everyone goodnight.
[13:31] <heogen> pajamian ok
[13:31] <steph_> wich channel do i use for beta release of ubuntu?
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> steph_, ubuntu+1
[13:31] <punc> hi every1
[13:31] <steph_> thanks
[13:32] <heogen> pijamian and the other friends thank you for all
[13:32] <heogen> see you later I should to go bye
[13:33] <JuJuBee> how come sudo cd /home/someuser  tells me  sudo: cd: command not found ?
[13:33] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow: hey budy i hav a gud pirate ship here he he he for u, u want some?
[13:33] <ArthurArchnix> I'm not very good at switching users apparently.
[13:34] <romulobr> hi, I deleted the files on /var/cache/apt/archives now apt doesn't work anymore...
[13:34] <ArthurArchnix> But oh, sweet mother of Mary, I am done with this problem of the last three days!! :D
[13:34] <user4> NISA_CIEN
[13:34] <frank_> JuJuBee: cd is internal to the shell
[13:34] <JuJuBee> Ah
[13:34] <JuJuBee> thanks
[13:34] <Jack_Sparrow> AudioSenseCD, Good morning..(here)
[13:35] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow: gud morning too..
[13:36]  * ArthurArchnix throws rose petals and flowers at pajamamin, v3ctor and Jack_Sparrow (who helped on previous days/ evening), thanks also to the good folks in ubuntu-offoptic (you know who you are) and... {music begins playing in background} ...
[13:36] <ArthurArchnix> Thanks.
[13:36] <AudioSenseCD> haaaay i'm stuck on updating got 215 updates...
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> AudioSenseCD, HUmmm what version are you using?
[13:37] <derdui_> hi, has anybody an idea, wahts up there, or what i can do?http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/85646/
[13:37] <SupaFly> Hey there whats a good web development tool similar to dreamweaver for ubuntu? i tried nvu but its pretty buggy :S
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> derdui_, Please dont post a link without a brief description of the problem
[13:37] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow: got ubuntu 7.10
[13:38] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow: a fresh install again
[13:38] <suxxor> hello again
[13:38] <bambam_> hi
[13:38] <suxxor> how can i copy and paste
[13:38] <suxxor> files
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> AudioSenseCD, A good reason to burn a copy of var/cache/apt/archives so you dont need to dl all the updates each time
[13:38] <suxxor> through terminal
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> suxx add shift to the command
[13:39] <ThRixXx> Jack, why arn't u op in this channel ?
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, :)
[13:39] <ThRixXx> :D/ hi
[13:39] <bambam_> why is de.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[13:40] <AudioSenseCD> Jack_Sparrow: thx for reminders
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow> bambam_, they were doing some work on them yesterday and I assume today
[13:40] <suxxor> somebody to tell me?
[13:40] <ConstyXIV> does Ubuntu have anything along the lines of Automator in OSX?
[13:40] <ThRixXx> de.archive.ubuntu.com ~~~ ping ping ping! and thats why  Icouldnt install XCHAT yesterday :D
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow> suxxor,  add shift to the command
[13:40] <derdui_> ok, the problem is i what to install a printer (canon ip2200) the driver is in cups, but i cant print... obviously its a usb problem, but via lsusb, i can see that the printer is connectet with my pc..... i have allready actulized the printers.conf (i found with synaptcs a tool for usb) but the problem isnt solved... i cant change to local printer.....
[13:42] <suxxor> how to add shift to the comand i don`t know what is to syntax of moving files
[13:42] <bambam_> Jack_Sparrow: ok, hopefully it'll be on soon
[13:42] <evanio> Olha só. Sou usuário Ubuntu 7.10. Tenho dois Hds. Um deles , IDE, a que me refiro hdc, eu quero só para armazenamento.  Como posso formatá-lo e montá-lo ?  Obrigado.
[13:42] <suxxor> mv file /directory/ ?
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> suxxor, Sorry I must have misread the question...   cp to copy mv to move
[13:43] <evanio> sorry
[13:44] <geirha> suxxor: yes, that will move "file" in the current directory to "/directory/file", which is probably what you want ;)
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> suxxor, Sorry, still working on waking up and having first cup of coffee.. just so you know you can find those answers really fast with man cp or man mv or man just about any terminal command
[13:45] <suxxor> i have another question i don`t have permission to copy file in some document like "htdocs" of xampp
[13:45] <nightstalker_> ha ha jack Sparrow I hope your coffee will black and hot
[13:45] <suxxor> how can i permit coping files?
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> suxxor, It was your reference to paste in a terminal that triggered the info I gave as in ctrl-shift c
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> suxxor, sudo
[13:46] <geirha> derdui_: does it print garbage, or no response at all?
[13:46] <brobostigon> suxxor: use sudo infront of the command
[13:46] <derdui_> no respose at all geirha
[13:46] <bloupotlood> hi guys
[13:46] <bloupotlood> im trying to install Ubuntu on an old IBM thinkpad 570 laptop.
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nightstalker_, No, it is half hot chocolate... but still wakes me up
[13:47] <bloupotlood> i get the boot menu, i choose install, the loader shows, then runs for like 4 mins, then NOTHING.
[13:47] <bloupotlood> any ideas?
[13:47] <derdui_> the order is given, and i see it in cups, but the printerdoesnt react geirha
[13:47] <geirha> derdui_: have you looked for clues in /var/log/cups/access_log and /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[13:47] <nightstalker_> Jack coffee and chocclate in one Cup
[13:47] <nightstalker_> ??
[13:47] <bastid_raZor> bloupotlood; try the alternate cd instead.. it is meant for older/low end systems
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bloupotlood, at the start or install menu press F6 then remove splash and quiet to be able to see the progress or not
[13:47] <bloupotlood> ah ok thanks
[13:47] <bloupotlood> ill try that now, F6
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bloupotlood, one more thing
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bloupotlood, if that fails, try noapic acpi=off  right before the -- on the command line
[13:49] <Gatestone> Where should I get archive.ubuntu.com signing keys? Because apt-get continues to say "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"
[13:49] <derdui_> yes, i looked in /var/log/cups/error_log geirha thas in the errorlog
[13:49] <derdui_> /ubuntuusers.de/paste/85646/
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !gpg
[13:49] <ubot3> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[13:49] <bloupotlood> it sais something about my BIOS cutoff
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, but I always just accept anything that comes from the repos
[13:50] <bloupotlood> its a very old bios, something about 1999
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Our Repos
[13:50] <bloupotlood> could an old bios cause ubuntu not to install?
[13:50] <bloupotlood> wierd
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, where do i find the kernel source directory
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, I dont know.. sorry, I dont compile much
[13:51] <sybariten> are there any french ubuntu channels?
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[13:51] <ubot3> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:52] <Gatestone> jack_Sparrow, I guess the point is that you don't really know, if you don't verify... you may be DNS/ARP spoofed on your LAN, e.g.
[13:52] <derdui_> in the accesslog everywhere i can read Get-Jobs successfull-ok geirha
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, :) thanks
[13:52] <geirha> derdui_: hm, how nice that it didn't specify the name of the device file it can't find
[13:52] <sybariten> Jack_Sparrow: thank you
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, Understood...
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> does anybody over here knows how to get to the kernel source directory
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sybariten, oui
[13:52] <derdui_> sorry, i didnt understand you geirha
[13:53] <geirha> derdui_: the paste you did, it says it can't find the usb device, which seems to be the problem, but it doesn't specify what the device is called :/
[13:54] <xobius> arvind_khadri, /usr/src ?
[13:54] <dgjones> bloupotlood, just for info, I installed ubuntu on an old laptop with a pre 2000 bios, it brought up the error message about the bios being old, but the alternate install cd did work and install, although I've installed xfce to replace gnome because the laptop only had 128Mb of memory
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> xobius, am using a emulator pack on amd64
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, You did install the source correct?
[13:55] <derdui_> ok, where i cant find it out? geirha
[13:55] <geirha> derdui_: edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and set LogLevel to debug, restart cups with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, then see if it prints some more useful messages in the error_log
[13:55] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, no i didnt
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, Then that may make it harder to find.. :)
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> arvind_khadri, Open synaptic and get the source you want
[13:56] <arvind_khadri> Jack_Sparrow, :) thanks a lot
[13:56] <hfmls> hi i want to use windows xp only to use hdmi, so  i can see my movies, what do i have to do to install xp in ubuntu? (emulated or somthing)
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:56] <derdui_> so i shold open /ect/cups/confd.conf and type by loglevel debug? geirha
[13:57] <geirha> derdui_: it most likely says LogLevel warning now, so change warning to debug
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hfmls, I dont know if the emulators are going to support hdmi out
[13:57] <hfmls> damn :S
[13:58] <X-Seti> Opengl, or missing libgl, anyone know about that?
[13:58] <PoGo> no
[13:58] <hfmls> err...well dual boot... :|
[13:58] <hfmls> thank you.
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> hfmls, And I dont mean to imply Wine is an emulator as it is not..
[13:58] <PoGo> bleh
[13:58] <Nostahl> how do i share internet connection with my tower to my laptop
[13:59] <Nostahl> through wifi
[13:59] <kalatian> Nostahl: do you have a wifi card and an ethernet card in your desktop, adn a wifi card in the laptop?
[13:59] <lerio> gudday guys does anyone has ideas on mobo that supports 4 or 5 video cards?
[13:59] <Nostahl> im connecting to the internet on the desktop through wifi
[13:59] <bastid_raZor> Nostahl; your tower can broadcast wifi?
[13:59] <Nostahl> and then iwant to send it out through a different wifi card in the desktop
[14:00] <Nostahl> thats what i need to learn about
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, We have seen people using two video cards each with two monitors
[14:00] <Nostahl> i have an old linksys 802.11b wmp11 in the desktop
[14:00] <bastid_raZor> Nostahl; you'll probably need a router that broadcasts wifi.
[14:00] <bloupotlood> guys what is Squashfs?
[14:00] <kalatian> Nostahl: you've got two wifi cards in the desktop? and they both work?
[14:00] <Nostahl> aye
[14:00] <bloupotlood> thats what im seeing when trying to install linux
[14:00] <kalatian> you can use adhoc network to do it
[14:00] <kalatian> not too tricky
[14:00] <medfly> ubuntu recognizes my wireless network card. how do i use my wireless network? :/
[14:01] <lerio> jack_sparrow: ya i remember you.....the groovix company have used 1pc for 10users
[14:01] <derdui_> loglevel is on info geirha
[14:01] <Nostahl> are there any cool gui's for setting up networks i can get
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, Hello
[14:01] <Fat-head> i am trying to play an avi file but i get no sound in kaffeine and xine media player i tried with mplayer and it plays the video but also gives an error : "cannot find codec for audio format 0x6771." how do i solve this ??
[14:01] <bloupotlood> whats the best downloader to make sure there are no problems with a ubuntu download?
[14:01] <geirha> derdui_: ok, change it to debug anyway, it should print more log messages then
[14:01] <kalatian> Nostahl: you can use network-manager, wifi-radar, or wicd
[14:01] <Nostahl> k ty
[14:01] <lerio> jack_sparrow: i'm fine wiht my sata drive now thanks for your tips
[14:02] <Orynet> dear people i had followed a link from http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ trying to create a persistent usb ubuntu on my seagate proAgent but I am trap on step 8. Will seriously need help now... I am stuck in ubuntu environment at the moment
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> bloupotlood, apt
[14:02] <bloupotlood> apt?
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> bloupotlood, Please get the alternate cd or the minimal cd for that older hardware..  or xbuntu
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, Glad to help as always
[14:02] <bloupotlood> thansk jack
[14:02] <lerio> jack_sparrow: ya have you heard about http://groovix.com?
[14:02] <bloupotlood> is xbuntu ubuntu just smaller?
[14:02] <medfly> xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce.
[14:02] <kalatian> bloupotlood: not really - but theoretically, it should be faster...
[14:02] <medfly> which is much lighter than gnome
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> bloupotlood, it has a lighter desktop
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, Sorry but that is offtopic for the support room
[14:03] <bloupotlood> ah ok
[14:03] <PoGo> ubuntu !!!
[14:03] <bloupotlood> thanks
[14:03] <Gatestone> To answer my question: do "apt-get install debian-archive-keyring" to stop signing WARNINGs about official non-3rd-party packages, and update.
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, What repos are in your source list
[14:03] <pan> how to get to the start page of "ubuntu server manager"?
[14:03] <lerio> jack_sparrow: awkay....anyways do you hav any ideas on mobo which supports many graphic cards?
[14:04] <kalatian> !offtopic | lerio
[14:04] <ubot3> lerio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, not really
[14:04] <medfly> how do i use my wireless network? ubuntu recognizes my wireless network card, but i'm not too sure where to go from here.
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi | medfly
[14:04] <ubot3> medfly: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:05] <medfly> thanks
[14:05] <Gatestone> !pastebin
[14:05] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:05]  * medfly reads
[14:05] <lerio> ya guys i know just asking if ever you have some ideas about those i've ask
[14:05] <ArthurArchnix> v3ctor: Do you know what the problem was?  I was testing this with my admin account. When I started testing it with my user account it worked straight away. Back to admin and it didn't work. Then it clicked. /etc/sudoers permissions are applied sequentially; order matters. I had the line saying let everyone in plugdev run modprobe psmouse, but then under that was the standard ubuntu command saying all members of admin can run all commands but need a
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, or try this  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[14:06] <derdui_> ok, i have to go, till later
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, Please ask in #Ubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <BadRobot> hi there
[14:07] <lerio> jack_sparrow: how can i join
[14:07] <pan>  i apt-get the usm-core,but dont know how to visit the manage page
[14:07] <BadRobot> i need some help to set up a LaCie Ethernet Disk mini
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, Please ask in /join #Ubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <aymen> hello
[14:08] <_Oz_> Good morning, Jack_Sparrow
[14:08] <lerio> jack_sparrow: k tnx gonna go there
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_, Goodmorning
[14:09] <Gatestone> jack_sparrow: my repos are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59247/
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, Did you try that program?
[14:09] <Gatestone> jack_sparrow: but did you see my message? I solved the WARNING! problem....
[14:10] <Gatestone> so just install debian-archive-keyring and update
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, yea.. but that source page is a mess.. you even used automatix, which is the kiss or death on your next upgrade..
[14:10] <sinbox> hi I've created a launcher with "run in termianl" but the terminal window just flashes open and closes and I need it to stay open for the application to run any suggestions as to what I need to do?
[14:11] <baiki> sleep 10
[14:11] <Gatestone> jack_sparrow, but I don't see warning anymore. Like re-installing eclipse now goes with no warnings.
[14:12] <baiki> question: my ubuntu doesn't get correct DHCP setting for Firefox (Proxy settings....) but just after the update last week!!
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Gatestone, Understood... you added the debian key...  just pointing to future problems you will have
[14:13] <lordleemo> Jack_Sparrow: automatix what a nightmare  causes more problems than anything else , peeps should be warned aainst it
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lordleemo, we try... and try and try
[14:13] <erUSUL> !automatix
[14:13] <Gatestone> yeah I know. As far as I know I have no packages from there installed, and now I removed the repo.
[14:13] <ubot3> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:14] <AudioSenseCD> erUSUL: gud morning
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL, that factoid needs a skull and crossbones
[14:14] <BadRobot> how do i set up a print via the network
[14:14] <BadRobot> ?
[14:15] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: maybe unicode provides them ;)
[14:15] <dgjones> !printing | BadRobot
[14:15] <ubot3> BadRobot: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[14:15] <erUSUL> AudioSenseCD: good evening here
[14:16] <Linea> ----
[14:16] <BadRobot> thx
[14:16] <AudioSenseCD> erUSUL: whre u?
[14:17] <mkultras> hey in macosx i can make a shortname, like an alias to my account and login with that can someone tell me how to make an alias to an existing username in ubuntu? i want to login with ssh using this alias
[14:17] <mkultras> is that possible u guys think?
[14:18] <erUSUL> AudioSenseCD: Earth → Europe → Spain → Galicia
[14:18] <ssn> hi
[14:18] <AudioSenseCD> erUSUL: here to its still evening 10:40 PM philippines
[14:19] <ssn> some german ubuntu mirrors are down
[14:19] <bieb> 10:40pm Wednesday??
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, so we have proven the world is round.. back on topic
[14:19] <ssn> connect (111 Connection refused)
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ssn, they will be up soon as possible
[14:20] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: ヅ
[14:21] <marvxx1> does anybody else has problems with the server right now?
[14:21] <babo> how do i rmdir with ftp when the directory is not empty ?
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> marvxx1, yes
[14:21] <johnnyisread> does anyone know if sounds issues from the last kernel updates are fixed yet?
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> babo, with force ?
[14:21] <Gatestone> Synaptic / Help say "no help viewer" and complains about missing mozilla etc...why? Certainly I have the default Firefox installation?
[14:21] <marvxx1> Jack_Sparrow: timeouts?
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> johnnyisread, Please be more specific
[14:22] <babo> Jack_Sparrow, ftp doesn't have force
[14:22] <erUSUL> Gatestone: make sure you have yelp installed
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> marvxx1, I understnd they are doing some work prior to the next release.... please be patient
[14:23] <Gatestone> yeah, but shouldn't Synaptic find my firefox anyway? Is this a bug or what?
[14:23] <erUSUL> Gatestone: Synaptic uses "yelp" no "firefox"
[14:23] <erUSUL> !info yelp | Gatestone
[14:23] <ubot3> gatestone: yelp: Help browser for GNOME 2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 343 kB, installed size 3256 kB
[14:24] <ssn> Jack_Sparrow: known problem?
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ssn, yes
[14:24] <azu> ??
[14:24] <johnnyisread> jack_sparrow: i remember doing the last kernel updates to .12 and the sound was borked, the forums said it was an issue with the last kernel and a patch should be up soon. Iwas just wondering if that was out yet or not
[14:24] <Gatestone> erSUL: "No help viewer is installed! You need either the GNOME help viewer 'yelp', the 'konqueror' browser or the 'mozilla'..."
[14:24] <ssn> ok, ill use the en mirrors meanwhile
[14:24] <erUSUL> Gatestone: for the third time: Install yelp
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> johnnyisread, Soultion for sound was to recompile alsa driver   more info in #Alsa...
[14:25] <Gatestone> So is this message in error? erSUL: I am interested in finding a bug in Synaptic much more than reading its help!
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> johnnyisread, version 15 not 16 fyi
[14:26] <lerio> jack_sparrow: i got problems with my ubuntu sometimes he closes the application i opened like for example the firefox or cant open the gimp or sometimes it logsout by itself is this something about corrupt os?
[14:26] <smokeyd> hey people. I have a disk from someone who accidentally overwrote his ext3 partition with a ntfs partition...... Any tips on how to recover files from the erased ext3 partition? The NTFS partion was created using "fast" formatting (i.e. only the partition table was erased)
[14:26] <erUSUL> Gatestone: then report it to launchpad maybe when people there tell you to install yelp you will do it. I will not say it a fourth time
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeyd, you can rebuild a partition table..  brb
[14:27] <brobostigon> smokeyd: i think youre stuffed
[14:27] <smokeyd> Jack_Sparrow: is that possible? How? And he also started writing to the ntfs partition, so at least some data will be lost, hopefully some is still recoverable
[14:27] <Cuetip_NL> need some help with GFX plz
[14:28] <Cuetip_NL> in XP i have extended desktop on 2 monitors, how do i get that in ubuntu ?
[14:28] <erUSUL> !xinerama | Cuetip_NL
[14:28] <ubot3> Cuetip_NL: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[14:29] <Jupp> Cuetip_NL, nvidia or ati?
[14:29] <Cuetip_NL> nvidea
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeyd, At that point, he might as well write it off or pay a professional to do it
[14:29] <Jupp> Cuetip_NL, do a search for twinview and xorg.conf
[14:30] <Cuetip_NL> ok. i also want to edit the xorg.conf but i can only open in readonly mode
[14:30] <Cuetip_NL> how do i edit it?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Cuetip_NL, sudo nano   or gksudo gedit
[14:31] <iDracaena> Cuetip_NL: use sudo gedit xorg.conf
[14:31] <brobostigon> Cuetip_NL: gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[14:31] <Jupp> Cuetip_NL, or sudo vi ;)
[14:31] <mkultras> hey is there a way to make an alias to a username
[14:31] <mkultras> in the passwd file or something
[14:31] <mkultras> i want to use a different username to login to the same account
[14:31] <mkultras> same home dir and pass
[14:31] <lamppost> you can give a different username the same user id and home
[14:31] <Cuetip_NL> sudo gedit xorg.conf asks me for passwd
[14:31] <mkultras> ah ok
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mkultras, please keep your question on one line
[14:31] <scragar> is there any way to find out my ram speed without shutting down and taking it out to look?
[14:32] <Cuetip_NL> is there a default root passwd ?
[14:32] <amenado> a good e-book to browse for X window tips - X power tools   http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101954/toc.html
[14:32] <baiki> someone with DHCP + Firefox experience?
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Cuetip_NL, yes, your user password and it wil not show up as you type
[14:32] <Jupp> Cuetip_NL, use your same user password
[14:32] <brobostigon> Cuetip_NL: use, gksudo gedit
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[14:32] <ubot3> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:32] <RainbowOnyx> Hello all, Last night i had an app window stay open no matter what "kill" command i tried.it was just sleeping, xkill sid it was killing it but window stayed...any ideas?
[14:32] <lerio> jack_sparrow: my desktop is frequently logouts by itself......is this a corrupt OS? will i reinstall it? or just some bugs
[14:33] <Cuetip_NL> ok ok, im just a linux starter :) hold your horses
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, I would do a fresh install, we both know you have made some unique changes in there..
[14:33] <Seeker`> RainbowOnyx: use a "-9" option possibly
[14:33] <RainbowOnyx> with xkill?
[14:33] <brobostigon> Cuetip_NL: for gui progs use gksudo, for cli progs use sudo.
[14:33] <legend2440> smokeyd: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[14:34]  * delcoyote hi/hola
[14:34] <Cuetip_NL> ok
[14:34] <Cuetip_NL> ty
[14:34] <Seeker`> RainbowOnyx: Not sure, it works with "kill" thoug
[14:34] <mkultras> thanks lamppost
[14:34] <jeansch> Hi, does somebody have an running hoary or have the "less" package pour hoary ?
[14:34] <lerio> jack_sparrow: what i can remember is that i never install something that broke my system....this is made by a text base installer
[14:34] <scragar> Seeker`: and pkill/killall
[14:34] <mike_> hey anyone in here know if the firefox here needs both the gnome swf plugin and the flash because for some reason my browsers flah acts real dodgy
[14:34] <amenado> RainbowOnyx-> let X window rerfresh and see if it will render buggered x-app..   use   xrefresh
[14:34] <lamppost> yw mkultras, just to be clear you do that by editing the password file by hand
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jeansch, See #Ubuntu+1
[14:35] <lamppost> Of course, there may be other ways, but I don't know of them
[14:35] <jeansch> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu+1 :D no ubuntu-12
[14:35] <marvxx1> too bad...i need the servers right now and i cant use them..aarrrhh
[14:35] <RainbowOnyx> ok thank you
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> lerio, I would restore from known good backup or reinstall or wait a month and install hoary
[14:35] <jeansch> !hoary
[14:35] <sinbox> hi I've created a launcher with "run in termianl" but the terminal window just flashes open and closes and I need it to stay open for the application to run any suggestions as to what I need to do or do I have to write a script tp launch the application and make a launcher for the script?
[14:35] <ubot3> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[14:36] <LukeL> !eol > LukeL
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jeansch, Got it sorry..  We see all sorts or "H" references.. you really need a newer version
[14:37] <lab_rat> !gutsy
[14:37] <ubot3> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jeansch, I go back as far as Badger...
[14:38] <mike_> sinbox: try using -h or -hold in your launcher
[14:38] <jeansch> Jack_Sparrow: i know i need a new version, but i have a collgue here on an old server that need less
[14:38] <ArthurArchnix> jeansch: You're running hoary?
[14:38] <RainbowOnyx> will Gutsy upgrade its self like the other apps when something higher than 7.10 is released?
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> RainbowOnyx, only when you select upgrade to newer release
[14:39] <baiki> Do you understand DHCP/Ubuntu/Firefox? Proxy settings via DHCP server? Have some questions...
[14:39] <jeansch> ArthurArchnix: yes, i have an hoary running on a serveur, and i don't want to upgrade it because of the software changes
[14:39] <mike_> Sinbox: did you get that ?
[14:39] <RainbowOnyx> ok thats easy enough was worried i would have to reinstall it all
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jeansch, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hoary/+source/less/382-2
[14:40] <faileas> can someone tell me where apt stores the files its downloaded?
[14:40] <genii> faileas: /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> faileas, /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:41] <faileas> thanks
[14:41] <jeansch> Jack_Sparrow: i cannot build it, i need libncurses-dev,...
[14:42]  * faileas bought a new network adaptor... it comes with a driver as source... and i can't DL build essential etc without a wifi card so... i'm moving over files from another system ;p
[14:42] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | faileas
[14:42] <ubot3> faileas: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[14:43] <faileas> ....
[14:43] <faileas> does that work with a flashdrive ;p
[14:43] <faileas> the system has no cd-rom drive either
[14:44] <erUSUL> faileas: then just copy over the deb files ;)
[14:44] <neville_> Where is the apt cache located on the hard disk?
[14:44] <faileas> erUSUL: thats exactly what i'm trying to do
[14:44] <faileas> or...
[14:44] <gaE4> Hi, have a Problem, if i go to my calendar there is set Sunday at begining of the Week, how to change it to Monday?
[14:44] <faileas> wait. i can compile the driver here and move it
[14:45] <faileas> i'm an idiot
[14:45] <neville_> Yeah, but a discerning one :P
[14:45] <faileas> neville_: yeah but its so obvious.
[14:46] <erUSUL> faileas: make sure the kernel and header versions are the same on both computers (both are current with updates) if you are going to compile on one computer and use it in the other
[14:47] <scragar> is there any way to check ram speed without having to shutdown?
[14:47] <faileas> erUSUL: they are, one is kubuntu, one is ubuntu, both gutsy. i don't think there's been a kernel update for em
[14:47] <kondom> hi
[14:47] <sinbox> just got that mike_  will try it now
[14:47] <mike_> what KDE version does kubuntu use
[14:48] <scragar> KDE4
[14:48] <LjL> no
[14:48] <mike_> sinbox: try using -H instead of -h
[14:48] <neville_> 7.10 uses 3.5.8
[14:48] <LjL> Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) uses KDE 3.5 (currently 3.5.9), with experimental KDE4 packages available
[14:48] <babo> i've uploaded a file to an ftp server but now i can't delete it cause i don't have the permission and i can't change the permission
[14:48] <babo> how do i get rid of the file ?
[14:48] <scragar> sorry, was looking at kubuntu hardy
[14:49] <neville_> babo?
[14:49] <faileas> ....
[14:49] <neville_> lol?
[14:49] <faileas> the hell?
[14:49] <neville_> Korean?
[14:49] <faileas> there's no make file
[14:49] <babo> neville_, not exactly
[14:49] <babo> anyone any ideas on getting rid of my file ?
[14:49] <lcdd> turns out that running ntpdate from a preseed script causes debconf or something to stall at "finishing installation 31%". how do i get around this?
[14:50] <faileas> ok...i'm TOTALLY lost
[14:50] <lcdd> i can't run cfengine with clocks too far off
[14:50] <faileas> it looks like they have a binary driver, and instrutions for compilation
[14:50] <scragar> faileas: is there a configure or configure.sh file?
[14:50] <faileas> scragar: no
[14:51] <jstrunk> How can I regenerate the default /etc/fstab?
[14:51] <faileas> only a bunch of .ko files
[14:51] <mneptok> faileas: what is this that you want to compile?
[14:51] <sinbox> mike_, it still shuts down, tried with -h -H -hold
[14:51] <erUSUL> faileas: *.ko are kernel modules
[14:51] <faileas> mneptok: well, i'm trying to install drivers for a rt73 based wireless network card
[14:52] <mike_> sinbox: how are do you have it written to execute show me your commands
[14:52] <faileas> box said it has drivers for ubuntu. cd's got debian drivers, but their idiots ;p
[14:52] <erUSUL> jstrunk: there is no default "fstab" each system has its own tailored to its disks/partitions configuration
[14:52] <mneptok> faileas: Debian drivers should work. have you tried them?
[14:53] <joricj> i have a laptop (vista), i installed ubuntu on it. if i install xp on it now, what do i have to do to restore GRUB (without reinstallinh ubuntu completely)?
[14:53] <faileas> mneptok: they are kernel modules. i was under the impression they are supposed to be compliled against mt kernel?
[14:53] <jstrunk> erusul, right. the installer generates one at install time. I'd like to know how it does that.
[14:53] <kate_mins> hello , i need help , can someone give me an example how i can use "iconv" to convert file to UTF-8 ? (i already looked at the manual but i cant understand how its been done)
[14:53] <konv3rgenz> hi, does anyone know something about the german repository de.archive.ubuntu.com ?? is it down ?
[14:53] <dgjones> !grub | joricj
[14:53] <mneptok> faileas: you are correct
[14:53] <ubot3> joricj: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:53] <mneptok> faileas: what kind of card is this? PCI? Cardbus?
[14:53] <faileas> mneptok: USB
[14:54] <joricj> thx, i really like the help system btw
[14:54] <sinbox> mike_, : it stays open now I put -H at the start of the line but I've now got an "error creating child process"  the line in the launcher is: -H /usr/local/bin/oddcastv3 -c ~/usr/local/bin/oddcast_LAME.cfg xmms_0:out_1 xmms_0:out_1
[14:54] <mneptok> faileas: personally, with the hassle you will face, i'd get a supported adapter
[14:54] <erUSUL> jstrunk: maybe you can generate one parsing the output of "fdisk -l" or using some more elaborated techniches
[14:54] <joricj> is ubot3's KB also online somewhere?
[14:54] <mneptok> faileas: *every* time Ubuntu updates your kernel you'll need to recompile the drivers.
[14:54] <faileas> mneptok: i got it cause i thought it was supported
[14:54] <LjL> !bot | joricj
[14:54] <ubot3> joricj: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:54] <faileas> mneptok: i'm fine with that, actually
[14:55] <mneptok> faileas: does it need to be USB, or is PCI(Express) or Cardbus or PCMCIA OK?
[14:55] <faileas> i prefer USB, that case is a pain to work with
[14:55] <mneptok> faileas: k
[14:55]  * faileas is cool with compiling drivers, as long as it'll work
[14:56]  * faileas REALLY should avoid ralinks in future
[14:56] <amenado> kate_mins-> what was your sample commands that failed? or errored?
[14:57] <baiki> Do you understand DHCP/Ubuntu/Firefox? Proxy settings via DHCP server? Have some questions...
[14:57] <aantn> hello
[14:57] <baiki> hi
[14:57] <mike_> sinbox: try it this way /usr/local/bin/oddcastv3 -terminal -H [plus whatever other commands]
[14:58] <erUSUL> faileas: ralinks are one (together with intel) of the most supported cards on linux. They provide a driver after all. Your card happens to be too recent my ralink 2500 works very well
[14:59] <faileas> erUSUL: lol, i've been having that problem a lot lately
[14:59]  * faileas is gonna download the source and try compiling it
[14:59] <sinbox> mike_, termianl window flashed open-close again with that
[14:59] <meridian> hi
[15:00] <meridian>  I should buy a new notebook with a blu-ray unit. Can I see blu ray films on linux (ubuntu)? thank you!
[15:00] <mneptok> faileas: the USB sticks will be tricky. they are made with lowest common denominator hardware, which usuallt means Broadcom.
[15:00] <mneptok> meridian: no
[15:00] <kate_mins> amenado: iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 inputfile
[15:00] <mike_> sinbox: /usr/local/bin/oddcastv3 -H -e ls
[15:00] <kamikaze> say i would like to use http://packages.debian.org/sid/asterisk , is there an easy way to make an package for ubuntu ?
[15:00] <marvxx1> so for sure there is a apt server problem right now?
[15:00] <riaal_> On a PIX, if i have a NAT translation from inside to outside I still need an ACL to allow www reply traffic, right?
[15:00] <riaal_> ops, wc
[15:00] <faileas> mneptok: ubuntu detects it as a ralink, and it has drivers for linux on the
[15:00] <faileas> er
[15:01] <faileas> mneptok: it has drivers for linux on the disk. obviously compiled by someone clueless ;p
[15:02] <amenado> kate_mins-> were you getting an error?
[15:02] <faileas> hmm
[15:02] <meridian> can I play the BlyRay with a win emulator?
[15:02] <smokeyd> thanks legend2440
[15:03] <sureshot> hey im completely new to linux and ubunto..
[15:03] <myeatman> anyone good w/ java?
[15:03] <smokeyd> I will start with making a dd image of the disk. Them I will try RIP linux and testdisk to see what I can do with the disk
[15:03] <erUSUL> faileas: on their website you have the sourcecode drivers if you want them
[15:03] <sureshot> i installed servereition 7.10
[15:03] <sinbox> mike_,  what do I do with that last line you gave me?
[15:03] <erUSUL> faileas: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[15:04] <mike_> sinbox: try it out lemme know if that works
[15:04] <smokeyd> I know more or less what sizes the partitions were
[15:04] <faileas> erUSUL: got it.
[15:04] <smokeyd> Hmm, I'll see
[15:04] <NarayanS> Hello everyone, am a newbie in need of help
[15:04] <erUSUL> !ask | NarayanS
[15:04] <ubot3> NarayanS: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:04] <aantn_> is it possible to connect to my ubuntu computer from a windows computer on the network
[15:04] <NarayanS> Sure, thank you
[15:04] <amenado> aantn-> yes its possible
[15:05] <amenado> aantn-> install putty on your windows to use a ssh client towards ubuntu
[15:06] <tano> ola tios
[15:06] <myeatman> int[] r = {9,2,4,3,7,5,0,1};   for (int t: r) { t=t+1;}   <==what does this do?
[15:06] <mike_> im having trouble with the firefox browser
[15:06] <sinbox> mike_, still getting: There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[15:06] <legend2440_> i was just messing around in gconf-editor and checked show timezone on panel and both the top and bottom gnome panels disappered. is there a easy way to get them back?
[15:07] <kate_mins> amenado: the output file not converted , can you write me correct run line for iconv ?
[15:07] <ace08> anyone can help me
[15:07] <bullgard4> aantn_: A second solution is to install a Samba client on your Ubuntu computer.
[15:07] <mike_> anyone know how to get the flash to work properly
[15:07] <odb|fide1_> hi. should i care if ubuntu dapper tells me that some packages can not be authenticated using apt ?
[15:07] <mike_> sinbox: i dont know man ive wracked my brains im pretty new to linux so lets ask around
[15:07] <ace08> im sureshot got logged off
[15:07] <mike_> hey can anybody help out sinbox?
[15:07] <erUSUL> faileas: wait guty already has the driver you need /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00/rt73usb.ko
[15:07] <ace08> how do i login?
[15:07] <Odd-rationale> odb|fide1_: Try updating your repos
[15:07] <NarayanS> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 y'day and I was trying to mess around. I renamed the root directory and now it crashes. I know I need to learn the ropes but, I want to get this to
[15:07] <odb|fide1_> from my point of view i would just ignore it, but i am not that used to ubuntu
[15:07] <NarayanS> work first, so that I can learn a few things everyday.  Thanks for reading.
[15:07] <amenado> kate_mins-> i dont know how a utf-8 looks like to begin with nor the iso8559  maybe try something like a chinese or japanese text to western?
[15:07] <faileas> erUSUL: it dosen't seem to connect
[15:08] <odb|fide1_> Odd-rationale: i did run apt-get update in front of it
[15:08] <ThRixXx> How do I unrar an archive thats split into 38 pieces ?
[15:08] <amenado> kate_mins the command is okay though
[15:08] <mike_> faileas: are you working with wireless drivers ?
[15:08] <Odd-rationale> odb|fide1_: Well, it should be okay. I get that too, sometimes
[15:08] <erUSUL> ThRixXx: unrar x file.r00
[15:08] <ace08> could anyone guide me in private how to start up ubuntu?
[15:08] <bullgard4> mike_: Basically, install the needed DEB program packages that Ubuntu provides, using Synaptic.
[15:08] <faileas> mike_: yes
[15:08] <odb|fide1_> Odd-rationale: hehe funny ubuntu
[15:08] <odb|fide1_> a second apt-get update solved that
[15:08] <odb|fide1_> thanks Odd-rationale for the quick repsonse
[15:08] <aantn_> amenado: I get a "network error. connection refused"
[15:08] <sinbox> that's ok mike_  I guess someone would have if they could, I might go post in the forum and see what gives, I'm also going to try and see if I can ge it to work with a script (not that I have ever wrote one before) thanks for trying mike_  :)
[15:09] <odb|fide1_> bye ubuntu-geeks :D
[15:09] <amenado> NarayanS-> you still have the liveCd , boot from it, and mount the partition of the old root, then rename to its old name
[15:09] <mike_> faileas: your wireless card is seeing the networks but searches the ip and then stops right?
[15:09] <Odd-rationale> ace08: From livecd?
[15:09] <ace08> how do i start up ubuntu?
[15:09] <kamikaze> Hi! I would like to use http://packages.debian.org/sid/asterisk , is there an easy way to make an package for ubuntu ?
[15:09] <ace08> from a iso-cd
[15:09] <ace08> burned with iso
[15:09] <amenado> aantn-> is the ubuntu side running sshd ? it has to be running an sshd server to allow remote access from windows
[15:10] <ace08> ubuntu server edition 7.1
[15:10] <erUSUL> faileas: then i recomend that you use this drivers http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[15:10] <NarayanS> amenado, I can boot from it, but am not sure how to mount the root because my installation failed quite a few times and I've got lots of partitions
[15:10] <amenado> !ssh | aantn
[15:10] <ubot3> aantn: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[15:10] <babo> I ftp'd an application into a folder and installed the app. Then i decided to get rid of the app and tried to delete all the folders. It told me though that I don't have permission to remove some of the settings files. How is that possible ? How did the ownership of those files change ?
[15:10] <mcquaid> does anyone know of an up to date list of wireless nic cards taht just work?  looking to get one and would like to avoid some of the issues i've read people have (with ndiswrapper etc)
[15:10] <Odd-rationale> ace08: Are you certain you burned the contents of the iso not the iso itself?
[15:10] <mcquaid> i've found some lists but they seem outdated
[15:10] <brobostigon> !hcl | mcquaid
[15:10] <ubot3> mcquaid: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:10] <ace08> yep used a program for that
[15:11] <amenado> NarayanS-> that is different then, chalk it up as a learning experience,  just re-install
[15:11] <mike_> faileas: is it seeing networks but not connecting??
[15:11] <m4tt> ok i just installed ubuntu 2.6.15-51 server on a virtual machine (vitualbox) and I go to boot it for the first time and it says uncompressing linux... ok , booting the kernel and it just hangs there, can anyone help me out?
[15:11] <ace08> and i think it is installed
[15:11] <Odd-rationale> ace08: What happens when you boot up the cd?
[15:11] <faileas> mike_: universal drivers? o0
[15:11] <NarayanS> amenado, oh ok, but what happens to my hard disk space?
[15:11] <ace08> ODD:but think i didnt get the lamp installed..
[15:11] <faileas> hmm
[15:11] <mike_> faileas: what did you use to install the driver..
[15:11] <ace08> i get to a menu like dos
[15:11]  * faileas thinks he has a workaround
[15:11] <erUSUL> mcquaid: i can vote for a ralink 2500pci based one because it is what i use and works well
[15:12] <ace08> sudo command and stuff
[15:12] <amenado> NarayanS-> it is still there, you can re-coup by reformatted that partition,
[15:12] <mcquaid> thx erUSUL brobostigon
[15:12] <amenado> reformatting*
[15:12] <faileas> mike_: whatever ubuntu comes with for that
[15:12] <ace08> it it unix enviroment ?
[15:12] <kamikaze> as asterisk packages are ported from debian to ubuntu as far as i can tell, is there a way to find out when a certain version will be ported (estimate) ?
[15:12] <NarayanS> Is there some way I can format the thing first and then installing?
[15:12] <mcquaid> erUSUL, is it just install the hardware and it works automagically? or do you have to muck a bit?
[15:12] <ace08> ODD:how do i get into Ubunto like windows
[15:12] <Odd-rationale> ace08: You mean the text install mode? You have a blue background?
[15:13] <mcquaid> my friend is looking for one too and he's new to linux. would like to recommend one that's the easiest to setup
[15:13] <mike_> faileas: i was having the same problem with mine last night i had to use ndiswrapper [dont know if you gave windows drivers for your wireless card] and i just messed with from there and its working now
[15:13] <ace08> its more black and its text mode
[15:13] <legend2440_> my top and bottom gnome panels are gone. i rebooted but they didn't come back. how do i get them back? i right click up where its supposed to be but i don't get add panel option
[15:13] <erUSUL> mcquaid: automagically after a fresh 64 bit gutsy install. Just click on network manager provide password (i use wpa2) and connect
[15:13] <ace08> i think the installation is done
[15:13] <Odd-rationale> ace08: You have a prompt? This is running off the cd right?
[15:13] <mcquaid> cool thx
[15:14] <erUSUL> mcquaid: my wifi router is near my computer so maybe the helped
[15:14] <skarface> legend2440_: alt+f2, gnome-panel (I think)
[15:14] <sn0> kamikaze for the next release of ubuntu check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule , which notes when the DebianImportFreeze is.
[15:14] <ace08> yeah its my username @ubuntu:
[15:14] <kamikaze> sn0
[15:14] <legend2440_> skarface:  ty
[15:14] <kamikaze> oops
[15:14] <mcquaid> why would the range matter?
[15:14] <ace08> ODD:running of the cd not sure
[15:14] <NarayanS> Amenado? Is there some way I can format the thing first and then install again?
[15:14] <kamikaze> sn0: i want to port a package wich is not yet in hardy, but is only one version away
[15:14] <m4tt> ok i just installed ubuntu 2.6.15-51 server on a virtual machine (vitualbox) and I go to boot it for the first time and it says uncompressing linux... ok , booting the kernel and it just hangs there, can anyone help me out?
[15:14] <brobostigon> mcquaid: my wifi uses an zd1211rw, and it works faultlessly for me.
[15:15] <kamikaze> sn0: it's an minor version update.... 1.4.17 to 1.4.18
[15:15] <mcquaid> thx brobostigon, going to make note of these two and do a little reading
[15:15] <ace08> it starts up from that in servermode or?
[15:15] <amenado> NarayanS yes go ahead do that, just make sure you know which partition.
[15:15] <Odd-rationale> ace08: Are you trying to install the server?
[15:15] <IanLiu> What cam I use to edit binary files?
[15:15] <macomrades> hi there everybody
[15:16] <sn0> kamikaze so the package is in hardy, just an older version? im not 100% sure the correct methodology but maybe post a wishlist bug against the older version , hopefully someone more knowledge able can help :)
[15:16] <kamikaze> sn0: did try to do it myselve, but am not quite sure it is the way to go about it, so was hoping on getting some pointers
[15:16] <legend2440_> skarface:  that worked ty
[15:16] <adyre> HELOO .... where can I find Appereance Themes for Ubuntu?
[15:16] <sinbox> oh boy :( I've just realised that somewhere along the line it must have worked oddcast is running in the background somewhere
[15:16] <ace08> ODD: im trying to get in to a windows like enviroment but dont get anywhere
[15:16] <skarface> legend2440_: np
[15:16] <sinbox> nmow to find which was the line that launched it
[15:16] <sn0> kamikaze im pretty sure this topic came up in one of the ubuntu-classroom MOTU days
[15:16] <NarayanS> amenado, thanks for the help, I must go now (to try to fix it up :D )
[15:16] <konis> ace08: do ye mean kubuntu or wine enviroment?
[15:17] <kamikaze> sn0: ok, tnx, whre would it post it? an where would i find the ubuntu-classroom MOTU ?
[15:17] <sn0> kamikaze https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:17] <Odd-rationale> ace08: I don;t quite get why you're using the server cd. Try the live cd instead. Sorry I can't stay... gtg someone else will help you!
[15:17] <sn0> as for posting, that would be done on launchpad.net under the package name
[15:17] <sn0> but i do stress im not sure :) so best check first
[15:17] <ace08> konis:is there different , trying to get into unbutu so i can run lamp server
[15:17] <MatBoy> In gnome my volume from my keaboard is working, the problem is that I want to change the channel it manipulates... this was always an issue.... doable ?
[15:17] <sn0> maybe post on the mailing list to check if you can't get an answer here.
[15:17] <Geoffrey2> hi folks, could someone tell me the proper chown and chmod commands to restore the ownership and permissions to my home directory?
[15:18] <macomrades> hi, my synaptic package manager returns the followin error when i try to install a package: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:18] <macomrades> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:18] <konis> Ace08: aah ok, i am quite newbie myself... sorry..
[15:18] <kamikaze> sn0: ok, tnx~
[15:18] <sn0> your welcome kamikaze
[15:18] <macomrades> somebody pls help
[15:18] <ace08> konis: well im completely new to ubunto and need all help i can get
[15:19] <m4tt> i am new to it too and i cant even get it to boot up
[15:19] <m4tt> i am new to it too and i cant even get it to boot up
[15:19] <mike_> god dammit my flash still isnt working properly =[[
[15:19] <ace08> odd: i should have checked lamp in installationmode to get lamp installed right?
[15:19] <konis> ace08: I mean if ye need ubuntu "look" like windows.. there is something i saw as Kubuntu and then there is Wine that runs windows progs
[15:19] <m4tt> any one help me? ok i just installed ubuntu 2.6.15-51 server on a virtual machine (vitualbox) and I go to boot it for the first time and it says uncompressing linux... ok , booting the kernel and it just hangs there, can anyone help me out?
[15:20] <konis> or kubuntu is gnome but places things diffenrently on desktop
[15:20] <m4tt> i just started making another virtual machine with it maybe this one will load
[15:20] <konis> or so i think
[15:20] <Pici> ace08: If you are installing from the Ubuntu Sever CD, there is no GUI.
[15:20] <adyre> m4tt, for how long have you been waiting?
[15:20] <ace08> konis:aha didnt know that, doesnt ubuntu look like windows sort of?
[15:20] <konis> yea
[15:20] <m4tt> i waited about 5 minutes
[15:20] <konis> a bit different, but i love ubuntu desktop
[15:20] <baiki_> Do you understand DHCP/Ubuntu/Firefox? Proxy settings via DHCP server? Have some questions...
[15:20] <kris_ph> hello. can anybody here recommends if it is a best practice to block Anonymous Internet Requests in firewall settings to ubumtu box?
[15:20] <ace08> Pici:exscuse me ignorance what is gnu?
[15:21] <m4tt> then i killed the machine and restarted it
[15:21] <m4tt> same hang
[15:21] <m4tt> how long does it take to boot the kernal?
[15:21] <Pici> ace08: Gnu is Not Unix.
[15:21] <konis> did ye download ubuntu from ubuntus homepage?
[15:21] <m4tt> yes
[15:21] <m4tt> yesterday i got it
[15:21] <m4tt> so it should be nice and fresh
[15:21] <adyre> m4tt: Linux has optional GUI, not like Windows that came in with ... Windows...
[15:21] <ace08> konis: yes serveredition 7.10 ubuntu
[15:21] <Pici> !enter
[15:21] <ubot3> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:21] <amenado> kris_ph-> as opposed to known? how would you know who should be allowed?
[15:21] <sinbox> so, how can I find out how a process was launched (some sort of activity log somewhere?)?
[15:22] <m4tt> it didn't give me a prompt
[15:22] <Pici> ace08: The server edition has no graphical interface, it is only command line.
[15:22] <adyre> m4tt: for a home user use Linux with GUI
[15:22] <ace08> pici:but it ask for unix password?
[15:22] <konis> ace: kk, i downed normal version 7.10 burned iso on cd and installed it
[15:22] <m4tt> this will be a server
[15:22] <Pici> ace08: What password did you put in?
[15:22] <kris_ph> amenado: what do you mean with that?
[15:22] <Pici> !who | m4tt
[15:22] <amenado> sinbox  in /proc/pidofsaidprocess/
[15:22] <ubot3> m4tt: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:22] <kamikaze> sn0: launchpad does not have very much info on it, any other place to look?
[15:22] <macomrades> i cant install anything with synaptic package manager. somebody help
[15:22] <skarface> sinbox: ps aux | grep processnamehere
[15:22] <konis> ace: i did put cd-rom as boot 1
[15:22] <adyre> m4tt: k... what is it showing you know
[15:22] <m4tt> ubot  ok i will
[15:23] <amenado> kris_ph-> the better question is, how do you know it is anonymous? can you distinguish?
[15:23] <ace08> Pici: cant i get into a grafical interface at all u mean?
[15:23] <konis> ace: how big was this server version if pici is right ye downed a program
[15:23] <Pici> ace08: You can download and install one, but by default there is none.
[15:23] <macomrades> somebody help
[15:23] <waini> hi, will mythtv 0.21 availible for gusty???
[15:23] <Pici> ace08: run: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:23] <kris_ph> amenado: it is just one of the firewall entries in my wrt54g?
[15:24] <m4tt> adyre .  nothing at the moment  it is  just finishing the new virtual machine, i ll let you know when it reboots
[15:24] <sinbox> thanks amenado and skarface
[15:24] <amenado> kris_ph-> i do not follow you, what do you really want to do?
[15:24] <ace08> pici : then i think i have to change to not server , do i get lamp installation if i want there?
[15:25] <ace08> oki
[15:25] <kris_ph> amenado: if m going to enable Block Anonymous Internet Requests....would it interfere PPPOE type of connection?
[15:25] <amenado> sinbox you understood what i meant by  /proc/pid/  ?
[15:25] <DarKprince> good evening people
[15:25] <mEck0> Hi! I'm running NetBeans under Ubuntu 8.04 Alpha6 and have an annoying problem. I can't write special characters like { in NetBeans (works everywhere else). The problem is with all the chars which requires that I use the AltGr-button on the keyboard. When I for instance press AltGr+7 I should get a {, but only gets a 7
[15:25] <ace08> pici : oki i can install that
[15:26] <m4tt> adyre .  ok  i got  grub> _
[15:26] <ace08> pici: i will try but will it work like the regular ubuntu then?
[15:26] <skarface> mEck0: you should report it as a bug
[15:26] <amenado> kris_ph-> are you running a server or you are trying to prevent a client from reaching a web server?
[15:26] <erUSUL> !hardy | mEck0
[15:26] <ubot3> mEck0: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:26] <Pici> ace08: yes.
[15:26] <kris_ph> amenado: m running a web server...
[15:26] <amenado> kris_ph-> it is a two way communications, so be clear please on what you wanted blocked
[15:26] <mEck0> skarface, ok
[15:26] <mEck0> erUSUL, thx
[15:26] <konis> ace08: good thing that pici cleared things out for ye
[15:26] <m4tt> adyre .  ok  i got  grub> _       what do i put in to start the boot?
[15:26] <skarface> mEck0: but yeah, support for that is #ubuntu+1
[15:26] <sinbox> amenado, not sure, I guessed navigate to that folder or do I have to type that in a terminal?
[15:26] <edju> anybody  w/ the snd_hda_intel module, nvidia sound, conexant 5051?  alsamixer shows only master, pcm, capture and digital.  Shouldn't there be more?
[15:27] <mike_> woot got it
[15:27] <_julian_> I just tried a apt-get install libqt4-dev, but I get this error: http://paste.biz/paste-3014.html
[15:27] <_julian_> any ideas?
[15:27] <amenado> sinbox yes.. cat  /proc/pidofprocess/cmdline    to see the command issued
[15:27] <ace08> konis :its 511 mb
[15:27] <audiosensecd1> !seen jack_sparrow
[15:27] <ubot3> audiosensecd1: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:28] <waini> will be mythtv 0.21 availible for gusty?
[15:28] <ace08> konis: have to try typing it now
[15:28] <konis> Ace08: ah, because normal ubuntu is a full cd..
[15:28] <mike_> ok i have a built in webcame that reads as usb how to i congifure it to work
[15:28] <brobostigon> waini: youre english in that sentence made no sense??
[15:28] <audiosensecd1> amenado:  budy help its already running now my my desktop so what i gonna do nw for gutsy?
[15:28] <konis> ace08: good luck
[15:29] <ace08> konis:what does this serverversion missing then?
[15:29] <konis> Ace08: good question... mmm
[15:29] <sinbox> ah well the proces died anyway so I'm gonna have to try and replicate how I started it keeping a closer eye on things now    D'oh!
[15:29] <ace08> ty...i probably get stuck soon..how do i install lamp..i think i missed that in installation
[15:29] <skarface> waini: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/200044
[15:29] <ubot3> Malone bug 200044 in gutsy-backports "MythTV 0.21 Suite backport" [Wishlist,Fix released]
[15:29] <amenado> AudioSenseCD-> what is your goal?
[15:29] <Narayans_> Hi again, I am using the liveCD now, how do I rename the root directory of existing ubuntu installation?
[15:29] <combotech> I've just installed gutsy. I notice that some of the dialogs ( like "you are submitting insecure data..." in firefox ) reappear  after reboot even when I told the app not to show me the message again?
[15:30] <faileas> ok.. this isn't quite working
[15:30] <combotech> I have installed on a usb hd.
[15:30] <Fat-head> can someone suggest an anti-malware for linux ?
[15:30] <konis> ace08: ye can try install it by same command sudo install
[15:30] <amenado> Narayans_-> is it mounted? rename is   mv dirname1 dirname2
[15:30] <Lartza_> are PSP and ubuntu compatible out of the box?
[15:30] <faileas> is there any way i can use a crossover cable to share internet between two computers running ubuntu? the 'server' is on a wireless connection
[15:30] <Pici> Fat-head: You shouldnt need any.
[15:30] <konis> ace08: sudo means it gives superuser access to ye to that command
[15:31] <schwuk>  The new podcast on the block: http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/
[15:31] <Narayans_> amenado, I don't know if its mounted
[15:31] <mcquaid> not linux related but maybe someone knows.  I setup up a friends new computer with ubuntu, and he wanted the front usb ports working on his pc case.  I looked inside and the usb wires leading from the front of the case are 5 pin.
[15:31] <amenado> Fat-head-> you want something that work or dont work? try running SELinux and see if it meets your malware criteria
[15:31] <Narayans_> amenado, the cahnge I made was in users and groups btw. That caused me the error last time
[15:31] <ace08> konis: yeah..is it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-lamp that i should write then?
[15:31] <Pici> mcquaid: Not Ubuntu related, try ##hardware
[15:31] <mcquaid> but on his mobo the usb connectors are 10 pin. well 9 pin actually 2x5 with 1 missing
[15:32] <Pici> !lamp | ace08
[15:32] <ubot3> ace08: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:32] <audiosensecd1> amenado:  how do i enabled the 3d desktop i enabled already the visuals
[15:32] <ace08> konis: i see
[15:32] <amenado> Narayans_-> have you read up on linux tutorials? I encourage you ...
[15:32] <mike_> ubuntu sees my onboard webcam but wont use it
[15:32] <mike_> is this another case of find the driver?
[15:32] <Lartza_> are PSP and ubuntu compatible out of the box?
[15:32] <ace08> pici: do i type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-lamp to install lampserver on serveredition?
[15:32] <can_> hello. as anyone installed adobe reader on the 64bit ubuntu?
[15:32] <Narayans_> amenado Should I read it right away> Or do I do the fail safe thing it asked me to first?
[15:32] <skarface> mike_: what program do you want to use the camera?
[15:32] <konis> good thing there is more experiensed people here
[15:32] <MrBL> hi buddies
[15:32] <amenado> AudioSenseCD-> on system->preference->appearance and select there
[15:33] <nachiket> hi
[15:33] <Pici> ace08: No, read what ubot3 wrote to you.
[15:33] <brobostigon> mike_: look at dmesg, does it get a dev file assigned to it??
[15:33] <genii> mcquaid: The extra black wire on the cord doesn't need connection
[15:33] <mike_> skarface: i wanna us it through a flash video chat which sees the came as a device but wont activate it
[15:33] <ace08> pici: oki missed that will check
[15:33] <can_> when you download from adobe, if you got the 32bit, it gives you the deb package which installs. but when you are on 64bit it will give you the rpm
[15:33] <amenado> Narayans_-> what do you mean? what did you do?
[15:33] <mcquaid> genii, not sure i follow. the connector is 5 pin, but on the mobo they are 2x5 minus 1 pin
[15:33] <Lartza_> are PSP and ubuntu compatible out of the box?
[15:33] <MrBL> I would like to install libc6 2.7.1 on my Gutsy distro, anyone know a safe way to install this sensible Hardy package on it?
[15:34] <mcquaid> so would i put the 5 pin on the 5 row and leave the 4 bare? just doesn't seem right
[15:34] <myeatman> Lartza: what are you trying to do?
[15:34] <Narayans_> amenado, home directory in users settings
[15:34] <genii> mcquaid: The fifth wire from the case is black, an extra ground wire.
[15:34] <Lartza_> myeatman: I'm just wondering can i transfer files to my PSP
[15:34] <amenado> Narayans_-> have you read up on linux tutorials? I encourage you ...
[15:35] <mcquaid> hmm, so again, i'd put it on the 5 pins and leave the second row of 4 pins bare?
[15:35] <brobostigon> Lartza_: theres a help page about that on help.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <amenado> Narayan am not a gui person, so i cant remember those.. command line I understand..
[15:35] <myeatman> Lartza:  i don't own a PSP, but i do use ubuntu occasionally...are you connecting using a USB?
[15:35] <Narayans_> amenado, oh ok. I changed the home directory of the account
[15:36] <frank_> Lartza_: PSP connects as a USB drive
[15:36] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[15:36] <Lartza_> frank_:Yes, I think so
[15:36] <genii> mcquaid: There are some nice pics here with pinouts http://www.frontx.com/cpx101_2.html
[15:36] <frank_> Lartza_: you just have to activate the USB connection in the menu
[15:36] <mike_> brobostigon: yeah it does
[15:37] <frank_> Lartza_: of the PSP
[15:37] <leo_rockw> i'm connecting to my comp through ssh. when i try playing an ogg file the sound comes out in the comp i connect to and not in the comp i'm using ssh from, is there any way to change this?
[15:37] <Lartza_> frank_: So it does work out of the box?
[15:37] <ace08> ubot3:lamp should be installed on serveredition if you choose that in installation, i missed to check that and just hit enter. Maybe its best to reinstall and try check it wih space or tab?
[15:37] <audiosensecd_> amenado: how do i activate the cube
[15:37] <ubot3> ace08: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:37] <marvxx1> is there a status page for the ubuntu apt servers?
[15:37] <frank_> Lartza_: yes
[15:37] <sectech> j #ubuntu-motu
[15:37] <audiosensecd_> !cube
[15:37] <ubot3> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[15:37] <genii> mcquaid: Basically yes, you can put it on the 5 pin or the 4 pin. If on the 4 pin make the extra ground wire go where no pin
[15:37] <leo_rockw> !ssh
[15:37] <ubot3> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[15:37] <mike_> brobostigon:  uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (5986:0100)
[15:37] <MrBL> I'd like to know how to satisfy a libc6 2.7.1 dependency on a beta editor I'm trying to install, anyone?
[15:38] <amenado> AudioSenseCD-> you are better of asking in #compiz perhaps
[15:38] <brobostigon> mike_: deos it have a /dev/video** assigned to it??
[15:38] <ace08> pici and konis: its probably best to try and reinstall
[15:38] <mcquaid> genii, ah that clear things up. thx.  it seems to state you can use either row.  why would one use the 4 pin row and have no ground?
[15:39] <ace08> how do i enter the grafical envireoment thn when i have installed it?
[15:39] <genii> mcquaid: There is already a ground.
[15:39] <mcquaid> genii, ok thx
[15:39] <JarG0n> hey, where can I view the upcoming features in Heron?
[15:40] <brobostigon> !hardy | JarG0n
[15:40] <ubot3> JarG0n: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 JarG0n
[15:40] <JarG0n> thx
[15:40] <konis> Ace08: hmm i did have automatic graphical Gnome when i started my ubuntu
[15:41] <Narayans_> Where is the User settings data stored? Can I change it from the Live CD?
[15:41] <konis> ace08: when i logged in it started directly from my gnome
[15:41] <mike_> brobostigon: if its suppose to tell you in the message im not seing it
[15:41] <marvxx1> can someone give information of the apt servers work right now or its a problem with me?
[15:41] <morbec> where i can find the dpkg-preconfigure? In where package ?
[15:41] <brobostigon> mike_: dmesg would say
[15:41] <MrBL> so no one even tried to install a Hardy package on a Gusty box? C'mon guys, don't you void warranties? ;)
[15:41] <ace08> konis: oki i see, what do you mean by gnome..isnt that a character in wow lol?
[15:41] <leo_rockw> i'm connecting to my comp through ssh. when i try playing an ogg file the sound comes out in the comp i connect to and not in the comp i'm using ssh from. how do i change that?
[15:41] <sinbox> it was the script that did it!  now, is there someone that could help me finetune my script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59253/          the problem I have with it is that it doesn't show me the process status running in a terminal (which I would really need) and as soon as I open a terminal window it stos the process
[15:42] <konis> Ace08: by Gnome i mean (if i am not wrong again) Graphical Gui
[15:42] <brobostigon> leo_rockw: just using shh, i dont think its possible to redirect audio output
[15:42] <leo_rockw> thank you brobostigon
[15:42] <incorrect> i am trying to get my techra M9's sound card to work
[15:43] <incorrect> i appear to have a mixer, but i don't seem to have any sound
[15:43] <mike_> brobostigon: i dont see one but wouldnt the (5986:0100) be a dev adress?
[15:43] <brobostigon> leo_rockw: maybe some kind of audio server may work??
[15:43] <dbrewer_rjr> if i set a variable in /etc/environmant, is there a way to refresh the env without a reboot?
[15:43] <ace08> konis: oki and a gui was what again?:)
[15:43] <brobostigon> mike_: sorry, but no.
[15:44] <leo_rockw> brobostigon: will google that, thanks for your help
[15:44] <konis> Ace08: 8), ye really should look up from wikipedia... but as i recall Gui is Interface
[15:44] <StefanW_> Graphic Use Interface
[15:44] <StefanW_> *user
[15:44] <konis> Ace08: i am sorry if i put some misinformation, cant now reacall from memory
[15:44] <mike_> brobostigon: so it see the damn thing but didnt assign it a dev =[[ is there any way i could get it to work like the chatroom sees it but it just wont turn it on
[15:45] <ace08> konis:yeah..:)
[15:45] <genii> marvxx1: The Canadian ones near me work fine, as well as security.ubuntu.com and packages.medibuntu.org
[15:45] <bazhang> marvxx1: what did you need to know?
[15:45] <Narayans_> Can someone tell me how to start a failsafe session?
[15:45] <marvxx1> genii: maybe its a problem with the german one
[15:45] <dbrewer_rjr> if i set a variable in /etc/environment, is there a way to refresh the env without a reboot?
[15:45] <Narayans_> I typo'd my home directory and I can't log in
[15:45] <marvxx1> bazhang: on two ubuntu boxes i get timeouts while apt-get update
[15:45] <adyre> HELP: Problems in Quanta.. I opened a HTML file and when I try to write it fades to black... what can be the problme?
[15:45] <marvxx1> and apt-get install
[15:45] <brobostigon> mike_: i am not sure, 1) check the driver it uses, 2)see if theres a newer one,
[15:46] <StefanW_> dbrewer_rjr: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace resets your logon precodure
[15:46] <StefanW_> dbrewer_rjr: does mean closing all your programs though, forced
[15:46] <genii> marvxx1: Quite possibly. You might want to try another one near you
[15:46] <bazhang> marvxx1: think it is likely an internet issue as I have had the same problem today as have several other people
[15:46] <konis> Ace08: this is what ye get when newbie is directing newbie
[15:46] <mike_> ok time to go driver hunting
[15:47] <marvxx1> ok thank you...is there a nicer way then to edit every line in sources.list?
[15:47] <c> irc://irc.freenode.net#ledgersmb
[15:47] <dbrewer_rjr> i am just looking to put a new env variable into use, in ubuntu feisty server
[15:47] <jtmitchum> can I create an ethernet bridge over ssh?
[15:47] <jtmitchum> and somehow get the machine back online
[15:47] <StefanW_> dbrewer_rjr: ah, server env.. sorry, can't help you there
[15:48] <ace08> konis: hehe well u helped a lot since im even more newbie:p
[15:49] <c> this is my first time on IRC how do I get to: irc.freenode.net: irc://irc.freenode.net#ledgersmb
[15:49] <c> ?
[15:49] <ThRixXx> Go to the top click on XCHAT
[15:49] <ThRixXx> network list >
[15:49] <Narayans_> konis: can you help me with starting a failsafe session?
[15:49] <stdin> c: you are on freenode, just type /join #ledgersmb
[15:49] <mike_> brobostigon: hey i see it in my device manager
[15:50] <ThRixXx> Click on freenode, lcikc connect
[15:50] <stdin> ThRixXx: this is freenode
[15:50] <ThRixXx> oh
[15:50] <legend2440> marvxx1: open synaptic >setting>repositories and you could select a different server
[15:50] <konis> Narayans: as i recall ye can try failsafe session from bootable cd (if ye burned iso?)
[15:50] <ThRixXx> my bad >.< it says ubuntu server at mine
[15:50] <smokeyd> about my question about data recovery. I just realised that the ext3 partition I erased and made into an ntfs partition remained the exact same size. So would it be possible to recreate the partition table so it is recognized as an ext3 partition by Ubuntu (live cd) so I can try using recovery tools to recover data from it?
[15:50] <stdin> ThRixXx: it's just an alias
[15:51] <c> thanks
[15:51] <ThRixXx> ahhh tx :)
[15:51] <Narayans_> konis, But, the problem i have is in user settings of that installation
[15:51] <marvxx1> legend2440: thank you
[15:51] <legend2440> marvxx1:  yw
[15:51] <konis> Narayans: Forgot password or someting in knot?
[15:52] <Narayans_> Konis, nope, I changed the home directory
[15:52] <Narayans_> Konis, It was a typo, i didnt know it would ruin things :)
[15:53] <konis> Narayans: hmm ye have to ask someone else prob how to hadle this... i have not yet faced that problem so no exp on that
[15:53] <c> Okay got connected thanks alot
[15:53] <konis> Narayans: Oh
[15:54] <konis> Narayans: ask around.. ill check from terminal if i can make heads or tail
[15:54] <waini> is it possible to use mythtv-packages form hardy-tree with gusty?
[15:54] <m4tt> server edition still hangs on boot, im going to try desktop edition
[15:54] <Narayans_> Konis, thank you :) I'll try to ask someone
[15:54] <m4tt> not pleased with ubuntu so far,, can't even get it up and running
[15:54] <Narayans_> Konis, btw, where is all the user data stored? If I can change it externally
[15:54] <brobostigon> waini: no
[15:55] <JJ1> m4tt - most of it is automatic. what problems are u getting?
[15:55] <StefanW> user session data or user as in user group data
[15:55] <konis> Narayans: ok have ye triend to mv directory back where it belongs?
[15:55] <StefanW> user session data is stored in /home/username/
[15:56] <BuSefer> is wine included in Ubuntu CD?
[15:56] <Narayans_> StefanW, user group data I guess
[15:56] <bazhang> BuSefer: nay
[15:56] <raw-bin> Greets. This isn't strictly an ubuntu question but is it at all possible to change firefox's keyboard shortcuts ?
[15:56] <StefanW> Narayans_: can't help you there then :)
[15:56] <brobostigon> BuSefer: sudo apt-get install wine
[15:56] <JJ1> busefer - not normally, but it can be aded easely through the "add/remove.." interface
[15:56] <m4tt> JJ1 i install, then go to boot, it says uncompressing linux... ok booting the kernal.  and just hangs there doing nothing
[15:56] <StefanW> !wine
[15:56] <m4tt> it has been for over  5 minutes
[15:56] <ubot3> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:56] <rsfriends> how can i crypt my  HDD, and what program is best?
[15:56] <faileas> !apt
[15:56] <ubot3> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[15:57] <StefanW> BuSafer: check here - http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[15:57] <BuSefer> thank you
[15:57] <konis> narayan: ye can find commands of terminal from bin directory
[15:57] <Narayans_> StefanW, I changed the home directory (a typo infact)
[15:57] <JJ1> m4tt - did u install it with the default settings? (partitions default and so on)
[15:57] <m4tt> JJ1-  so  i reinstalled ( 2.6.15-51 server ) again and same thing just hangs
[15:57] <Narayans_> konis, where is that?
[15:57] <legend2440> marvxx1: i don't know if you noticed but you can press button that says Select Best Server in synaptics >repositories and it will ping servers to find best connection for you
[15:57] <faileas> can someone give me the command for fixing apt if you cancelled midway through an update?
[15:58] <konis> narayans: can u put terminal on run?
[15:58] <m4tt> jj1 yes all default settings  other than  the  names and password
[15:58] <bazhang> faileas: aptfix
[15:58] <faileas> !aptfix
[15:58] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:58] <Narayans_> konis, I don't know if that will help because, user settings in the live CD only have one entry with Ubuntu as username
[15:58] <JJ1> m4tt - the server edition may not run on some older systems. im not sure but I had an error once saying that my cpu was to old for the server version.
[15:59] <rsfriends> how can i crypt my  HDD, and what program is best?
[15:59] <Kilo_Kowalski> m4tt...you sure you want the server edition?
[15:59] <brobostigon> rsfriends: theres instructions on help.ubuntu.com
[15:59] <konis> Narayans: hmm
[15:59] <EnG1n33R> i have problems with loggin with my account n with my username so i decided to delete that user and add it again but i'd ask about my home configuration files will those files migrate to the the same username with out any problem ?
[15:59] <rsfriends> thx m8
[16:00] <m4tt> kilo - i assume so , i will be running  squid + dansguardian on it as a transparent proxy is all it will be doing
[16:00] <lunaphyte_> do people get frustrated with things being oversimplified something in ubuntu, or is it just me?
[16:00] <Karacho2> I get a black screen when booting with the ubuntu installation cd.I
[16:00] <bazhang> lunaphyte_: some of us use kubuntu ;]
[16:00] <faileas> lunaphyte_: you can always do it the hard way ;p
[16:00] <Karacho2> immedeately after choosing install
[16:00] <Scunizi> lunaphyte_, Oversimplified?
[16:01] <Karacho2> I haven't found anything at the forum or faq...
[16:01] <StefanW> faileas: or try apt-get install -f (this fixes dependencies)
[16:01] <Narayans_> All I have to do is rename my home directory, if only you told me how :)
[16:01] <faileas> StefanW: taken care of
[16:01] <StefanW> faileas: okido :)
[16:01] <konis> Narayan: And ye would not prefer to reinstall? mmm of course there must be way out, if yer precious info is at stake a example
[16:01]  * faileas forgot to comment out getting packages from the CD, on a system that notmally has none
[16:01] <nite613> I've got to bring my laptop in for repairs. Can someone suggest an easy and reliable way to image my whole HD to a remote machine on my network?
[16:02] <bazhang> !clone
[16:02] <ubot3> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:02] <faileas> nite613: dd and netcat i guess
[16:02] <Narayans_> konis: I would, but am sure theres some command I can use from recovery mode that I dont know
[16:02] <bazhang> nite613: see above
[16:02] <faileas> or dd and rsync... if you have the space
[16:02] <nite613> bzhang: Not what I need. There are partitions from other OSes as well
[16:02] <nite613> I think dd | gzip | nc  might be the best.
[16:03] <nite613> I was just wondering if there is a more robust way
[16:03] <Karacho2> hi. who can help me with some installation issue?
[16:03] <konis> Narayans: ye are prob right
[16:03] <m4tt> karcho2 - what is the issue?
[16:03] <lunaphyte_> i wanted to upgrade from 6.1 to 7.0.4, so i went looking for some details, which turned out to be "run do-release-upgrade".  now i have a system that "cannot find any devices listed in mdadm.conf"...
[16:03] <dmacnutt> if [ -d "/home $user"] ; then
[16:03] <Narayans_> StefanW: Could you tell me how to start a fail safe session?
[16:03] <dmacnutt> ewps
[16:03] <Karacho2> i get a black screen right after choosing install in the boot menu
[16:03] <Karacho2> i haven't found anything on a black screen at this stage of the installation
[16:04] <lunaphyte_> so now i have to go find a 7.0.4 cd, boot off of that, and do surgery.  which i'm fine doing, but would rather have just done it in the first place.
[16:04] <dmacnutt> use the alternate install disk
[16:04] <Karacho2> where can i get it?
[16:04] <m4tt> i am getting through the install but it freezes when booting from hard disc
[16:04] <bazhang> Karacho2: live cd or alternate cd
[16:04] <Karacho2> live cd
[16:04] <ArthurArchnix> Karacho2: You can look on the forums to see if someone has a boot option that helps. It's worth a look before downloading another cd.
[16:04] <dmacnutt> alternate cd is a much faster install
[16:04] <bazhang> Karacho2: www.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <Karacho2> I haven't found anyting in the forum, though
[16:05] <ArthurArchnix> Karacho2: But the alternate is the most sure-fire way to fix it.
[16:05] <Karacho2> k
[16:05] <ArthurArchnix> Karacho2: stuff like noapic
[16:05] <StefanW> Narayans_: if you installed GRUB, it's listed there.. other than that, I can't :)
[16:05] <Karacho2> i'll give it a try then
[16:05] <bazhang> Karacho2: the boot param acpi=off sometimes works
[16:05] <ArthurArchnix> Karacho2: There are others.
[16:05] <Karacho2> yep. i tried noapic, nolapic, noagp, nowhatever ...
[16:05] <ArthurArchnix> ^^
[16:05] <audiosensecd_> !seen /join compiz
[16:05] <ubot3> audiosensecd_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:05] <ArthurArchnix> Karacho2: Ahh.. ok then. Alt it is.
[16:05] <audiosensecd_> aww
[16:05] <lunaphyte_> where can i download 7.0.4.  do they purposefully make it difficult to find, or am i retarded?
[16:05] <Narayans_> StefanW: in GRUB theres a recovery mode that lets me access the command prompt
[16:06] <Narayans_> StefanW: how do i rename home directory in user settings from there?
[16:06] <dmacnutt> any major flaws when upgrading your system via changed /etc/apt/sources.list edgy-->gutsy and doing apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade?
[16:06] <fus10nx> hey guys -- have you seen this yet? http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_85_sq_ft_screen_ON_THE_SIDE_OF_A_BUILDING_WOW
[16:06] <ArthurArchnix> lunaphyte_:  here http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/  no  and not sure.
[16:06] <fus10nx> thats fucking nuts
[16:06] <brobostigon> lunaphyte_: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[16:06] <Karacho2> I'll give the alternate cd a try then. thanks guys
[16:06] <bazhang> fus10nx: this is not the place to post that thanks
[16:06] <fus10nx> its running ubuntu
[16:06] <StefanW> Narayans_: you want to rename your /home/username/ directory?
[16:06] <fus10nx> so, yea, it is.
[16:07] <lamppost> lunaphyte_: if you already have an older ubuntu installed you can do a full upgrade without a disk, just so you know
[16:07] <lunaphyte_> lamppost: i did.  it broke it.
[16:07] <bazhang> fus10nx: only if you want to get kicked ;]
[16:07] <ArthurArchnix> !admin | fus10nx
[16:07] <ubot3> fus10nx: Meddle not in the affairs of sysadmins for they are mysterious and quick to anger.
[16:07] <brobostigon> !upgrade | lunaphyte_
[16:07] <ubot3> lunaphyte_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:07] <lunaphyte_> been there.
[16:07] <Narayans_> StefanW: Probably that. Exactly the directory that we can change in Advanced part of user settings
[16:08] <Narayans_> StefanW: I can try and come back to you :)
[16:08] <StefanW> Narayans_: hm, you can try to use the ubuntu live cd to mount your drive
[16:08] <StefanW> Narayans_: that way you will have a gui to work in :)
[16:09] <Narayans_> StefanW: I am using the live CD now, but the only user is root
[16:09] <combotech> how do I make my script in /etc/init.d show up in the services list in the administration menu in gutsy
[16:09]  * cking need coffee
[16:09] <StefanW> Narayans_: did you mount your drive?
[16:10] <Narayans_> StefanW: I don't know how to, but as far as I see everything is mounted
[16:10] <faileas> hmm
[16:10] <StefanW> Narayans_: then you should be able to see your ubuntu installation, right :) ?
[16:10] <faileas> is there something similar to yakuake for gnome?
[16:10] <Narayans_> StefanW: Where sir?
[16:11] <MaximusBrood> If I would do "debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" to install a new ubuntu system (from an SSH rescuesystem, remotely) would I get a graphic interface when I boot, or text-only? If graphic, how would I install a text-only Ubuntu system? (I want to use the Xubuntu variant)
[16:11] <StefanW> Narayans_: probably in /media/
[16:12] <MAXDDARK> hola
[16:12] <Narayans_> StefanW: But how can I reach my user settings?
[16:12] <MAXDDARK> what is a good program for graphical remote desktop ?
[16:12] <erUSUL> !vnc | MAXDDARK
[16:12] <ubot3> MAXDDARK: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[16:12] <StefanW> Narayans_: the CD's GUI will not configure your already installed ubuntu
[16:13] <Nutzebahn> Hi. Does anyone know if I can install Flash player for Opera in Ubuntu?
[16:13] <StefanW> Narayans_: you will have to manually edit :)
[16:13] <MAXDDARK> yeah well , but I mean something from Ubuntu packages
[16:13] <erUSUL> !es | MAXDDARK
[16:13] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: , yes, you can..
[16:13] <ubot3> MAXDDARK: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:13] <Narayans_> StefanW: Could you please guide me with that?
[16:13] <OoteR> You running 64 bit?
[16:13] <StefanW> Narayans_: tell me, what did you exactly change :)
[16:13] <Nutzebahn> ooter: How?
[16:13] <Nutzebahn> No, 32 bit.
[16:13] <OoteR> ok, hold on.
[16:13] <erUSUL> MAXDDARK: there are vnc servers and clients on ubuntu repos
[16:13] <MAXDDARK> sorry, not spanish ;)
[16:14] <StefanW> Narayans_: did you rename /home/yourusername/ to /home/somethingelse/ or did you do something else :) ?
[16:14] <MAXDDARK> thanks
[16:14] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: do you have flash working with ff?
[16:14] <Narayans_> StefanW: Can I give you the details in private?
[16:14] <StefanW> Narayans_: sure :)
[16:14] <MAXDDARK> sorry to bug you again, but what I meant is something like rdesktop , something you lunch from cli
[16:15] <mike_> ok i found the problem with my webcam i need to get the new uvc driver anyone no were i can get it ?
[16:15] <Nutzebahn> ooter: Yes.
[16:15] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: try this.. sudo ln /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[16:15] <Narayans_> StefanW: It wants me to register, So i'll tell you here
[16:15] <audiosensecd_> stefanw: help i think my cube not working
[16:15] <oscar> holaaa
[16:16] <bazhang> Narayans_: and StefanW you can make a channel: #helpNarayans for example
[16:16] <Scunizi> I'm using ubuntu w/VMWare Server but other machines on the Lan can't see the VMserver to load an image. Any hints from users out there?
[16:16] <StefanW> bazhang: awesome suggestion :)
[16:16] <m4tt> i m using Virtualbox
[16:16] <Nutzebahn> ooter: I did that, now what?
[16:16] <bazhang> hello oscar
[16:16] <Narayans_> thank you bazhang
[16:17] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[16:17] <m4tt> check network card settings
[16:17] <Narayans_> StefanW: can you use the channel bahzang gave?
[16:17] <m4tt> static ip
[16:17] <oscar> aqui todo en ingles??
[16:17] <m4tt> ping it from other machine
[16:17] <bazhang> yes oscar
[16:17] <erUSUL> !es | oscar
[16:17] <ubot3> oscar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:17] <OoteR> try it out
[16:17] <oscar> gracias :D
[16:17] <OoteR> er Nutzebahn: close out of opera, and give it a shot
[16:17] <bazhang> de nada ;]
[16:18] <mike_> ok i have a question
[16:18] <Breakage> hey, should fc-cache -fv be ran as sudo and normal user or just sudo? if it makes a difference i dont have fonts on ~/.fonts :)
[16:19] <mike_> i have the driver package for my webcam installed do i have to blacklist the old one before i can use my webcam?
[16:19] <Nutzebahn> ooter: It still doesn't work.
[16:20] <OoteR> lame, does it just show a blank spot on the page?
[16:20] <filiph> hoi, i have a little problem with the drivers of videocard: i cant enable desktop effects..
[16:20] <bazhang> filiph: what card and what driver and how installed please
[16:21] <filiph> error: Fail to query the GLX server vendor
[16:21] <filiph> driver 100/ card nvidia 7800GS
[16:21] <Nutzebahn> ooter?
[16:21] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: i'm here.. i'm going through it on mine right now to see if i can get it
[16:22] <filiph> installed bij "instal and remove..."
[16:22] <filiph> i get an error in tehe controll pannel self...
[16:23] <Marfi> i know that windows xp has problems with taking advantage of CPU's with multiple cores. does ubuntu take advantage of multiple cores?
[16:24] <MaximusBrood> I'm having a very weird problem; I just installed Ubuntu through a rescue system. Grub has /dev/hda1 as root, hands the boot stick perfectly to Ubuntu. Now Ubuntu boots and drops to console because it says it can't find /dev/hda1. Suddenly /dev/sda1 has appeared in /dev (I had Debian before; it was just /dev/hda). How is this possible?
[16:24] <bastid_raZor> Marfi; yes, i run a dual core and i know it uses both.. i monitor both cores.
[16:24] <ArthurArchnix> Can I disable access to the console for some users? Say for instance, once I got the desktop setup right, and I don't want them to alt+F2 gconf-editor
[16:24] <Marfi> bastid_raZor, ty. =) im looking to build one with 4 or 8 cores in the summer
[16:24] <brobostigon> bastid_raZor: does dual core react like smp??
[16:25] <bastid_raZor> brobostigon; i'm dont know..
[16:25] <erUSUL> MaximusBrood: ubuntu kernel uses new libata drivers that make pata drives appear as /dev/sdxx
[16:25] <erUSUL> !libata
[16:25] <ubot3> Factoid libata not found
[16:25] <brobostigon> bastid_raZor: when you have dial core, does it look like you have multi processor??
[16:25] <ibou_> Sometimes, i can't open my dvd drive....
[16:25] <bastid_raZor> brobostigon; yes
[16:26] <ibou_> even with a sudo eject...
[16:26] <ibou_> although i have no cd or dvd in it
[16:26] <brobostigon> bastid_raZor: so progs like top, register the system as having several cpu's??
[16:26] <MaximusBrood> erUSUL: Where should I edit the drive to /dev/sda1? Obviously GRUB still sees it as /dev/hda1.
[16:27] <OoteR> Nutzebahn:  you there? pm me
[16:27] <guest8> HI, anybody know where Rythmbox stores the cover art it downloads?
[16:27] <erUSUL> MaximusBrood: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?? grub see drives as (hdx,x) not /dev/**** the message is from the kernel
[16:28] <tofacer> Tofacer
[16:28] <guest8> !rythmbox
[16:28] <ubot3> Factoid rythmbox not found
[16:28] <erUSUL> MaximusBrood: you have to change the root=/dev/**** boot option
[16:28] <erUSUL> !player | guest8
[16:28] <ubot3> guest8: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[16:28] <Tooommi> guest8: ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/covers
[16:28] <MaximusBrood> erUSUL: Stupid question, but which text editor does the emergency console have? I just tried about eight different editors, and they are all non-existant ;)
[16:29] <alti> hi
[16:29] <Marfi> MaximusBrood, nano -w or vm
[16:29] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[16:29] <Yonie> hey guys :), i was wondering why with Ubuntu if i type set in terminal i get so much stuff, isnt it meant to be alot less?
[16:29] <Nutzebahn> I pmed you.
[16:29] <audiosensecd_> peeps help how to i revert the setting of CCSM
[16:29] <Marfi> MaximusBrood, *vi
[16:29] <jgonick> Can someone point me in the right direction to get two Ubuntu computers to see each other on a home network.
[16:29] <blue-frog_> MaximusBrood: try vi
[16:29] <bastid_raZor> brobostigon; when i look at top..i assume it shows the average between them both.. when i compile or using conky it shows two processors
[16:29] <erUSUL> MaximusBrood: nano ? if you are in the initrd busybox envoirment i dunno if you have an editor
[16:29] <MaximusBrood> Marfi: I tried vi first, doesn't exist. Nano too.
[16:29] <erUSUL> MaximusBrood: use a liveC
[16:29] <guest8> Tooomi: Thanks. What are the ".rb-blist" files that are also in that directory
[16:29] <erUSUL> liveCD*
[16:29] <robot_jesus> I want to make my USB device a swap device, how do I format it for that ?
[16:29] <robot_jesus> has anyone done that ?
[16:29] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL: buddy my cube not working
[16:30] <brobostigon> bastid_raZor: thanks for clearing that up, i always wondered.
[16:30] <MaximusBrood> heh, an emergency console with a text editor. Might pipe the whole file in place then :P
[16:30] <MaximusBrood> without*
[16:30] <erUSUL> audiosensecd_: have you used ccsm to enable it? does compiz work?
[16:30] <coldboot> What's a good cd ripping program?
[16:30] <clusty> how can I mount a remote http site using fuse?
[16:30] <guest8> Bye
[16:30] <Tooommi> guest8: I don't know, something about amazon :)
[16:30] <coldboot> I had one a while ago, think it was called "cdrip", but it's no longer in the repos under that name.
[16:30] <Nutzebahn> ooter?
[16:31] <OoteR> look in your pms
[16:31] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL: yes it is but when i CTRL+ALT+LEFT click it wont
[16:31] <erUSUL> coldboot: i used the default soundjuicer and it is nice but personally prefer good'old grip
[16:31] <erUSUL> !ccsm | audiosensecd_
[16:31] <ubot3> audiosensecd_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[16:31] <coldboot> ah grip
[16:31] <mike_> can anyone help me with my webcam its supported by uvc and i installed the newest subversion and source but dont know if doing things correctly when i install do i have to black list the driver in use allready help please
[16:31] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: are you running 9.25+ of opera?
[16:31] <erUSUL> !info grip > coldboot
[16:31] <MilitantPot> I ruined my menu.lst, how do I determine my root=uuid
[16:32] <ArthurArchnix> Any good links or tips on locking down a users account? Like say, not being allowed to change themes, desktops, access gconf, that kind of stuff.
[16:32] <Nutzebahn> I suppose, I just downloaded it. ooter.
[16:32] <erUSUL> !uuid | MilitantPot
[16:32] <ubot3> MilitantPot: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[16:32] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL:  and how do i now its gutsy
[16:32] <Nutzebahn> I pmed you. ooter.
[16:32] <lng> how do i get gzcat?
[16:32] <coldboot> erUSUL: Thanks, I had forgot the name.
[16:32] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: apparently you need a beta version of flash to run with opera
[16:32] <erUSUL> audiosensecd_: install ccsm and check the configuration of key shortcuts
[16:32] <dngr> hi, trying to compile pidgin-1.4.0, it cant find gnutls, any ideas?
[16:32] <Nutzebahn> ooter: What can I do?
[16:33] <erUSUL> dngr: install it (the dev package)
[16:33] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL: BTW i installed a while a go and the cube workng fine but my system hang up and now it doesn't enable the cude rotation
[16:33] <bertvdp> hi, I have a one page pdf document here and I want to convert it to a jpg image but evince can't do that aparantly, so how can I do that ?
[16:33] <ElTimo> anyone know of a good dreamweaver replacement?
[16:33] <bazhang> erUSUL: the info commands are still not working for some apps with the bot
[16:33] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: PM's aren't acting normally. I'm looking for the download to the flashplayer
[16:33] <erUSUL> bazhang: oh; thanks for the heads up
[16:33] <Nutzebahn> ooter: Thank you.
[16:34] <Marfi> ElTimo, screem
[16:34] <erUSUL> audiosensecd_: then i dunno what may have gone wrong
[16:34] <derdui_> Hi, i was one hour befor here because of my printerproblem (canon ip2200) it still doenst print, but its listet in cups, in the errorlog was somthing about usb....now i edited the loglevel from info to debug, and so i have got a new errorlog...  but it is too much to paste.... is anybody able to help me?
[16:34] <ElTimo> marfi: I've tried it, it seems immature
[16:34] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL:  how do i revert it
[16:34] <Marfi> ElTimo, have you tried to run it in wine?
[16:35] <ElTimo> marfi: can't say I have. the only thig I voluntarily run in wine is diablo 2 lol
[16:35] <Achoth> derdui_: Use pastebin for errorlogs
[16:35] <MilitantPot> I ruined my menu.lst, how do I determine my root=uuid I'm on a live CD since ubuntu won't load
[16:35] <Marfi> ElTimo, thats like me and eve. =)\
[16:35] <erUSUL> audiosensecd_: maybe rm -r ~/.config/compiz/
[16:35] <ElTimo> rofl
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[16:35] <ubot3> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[16:36] <legend2440> dngr: libgnutls-dev in synaptic
[16:36] <erUSUL> MilitantPot: i already told you so...
[16:36] <ElTimo> marfi: I never really got into eve
[16:36] <crdlb> erUSUL: the compiz settings don't actually live there by default; it uses gconf
[16:37] <Marfi> ElTimo, i never did either. but WoW pissed me off from nerf after nerf...and i have a bunch of friends who play eve
[16:37] <dngr> legend2440, of course.. thanks
[16:37] <erUSUL> crdlb: :| too bad then maybe you can guide audiosensecd_
[16:37] <vince-swiss> bonjour à tous
[16:37] <legend2440> dngr: yw
[16:37] <erUSUL> !fr | vince-swiss
[16:37] <ubot3> vince-swiss: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:37] <derdui_> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/86802/ the first one
[16:37] <bazhang> hello vince-swiss
[16:37] <ElTimo> marfi: good enough reason for anyone
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Marfi, ElTimo  Please try and keep ontopic or move the wine / games talk to offtopic.. Thanks
[16:37] <Roconda> Hey, my microphone works ... but with skype it doenst work :s someone ?
[16:37] <ElTimo> sorry jack
[16:37] <Marfi> np
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:38] <MilitantPot> erUSUL: sorry, missed that thank you :)
[16:38] <ElTimo> I don't have AD- O LOOK A CHICKEN!!
[16:38] <erUSUL> MilitantPot: no problem ;P
[16:38] <zod_> hi is it some one i can ask some noob q about ubuntu?
[16:38] <derdui_> it is too much, that are over 900 lines, is there an other possibillity? Achoth
[16:39] <bazhang> zod_: go ahead and ask ;]
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> zod_, This is the place, just ask
[16:39] <zod_> tnx
[16:39] <ElTimo> that's what were here for zod
[16:39] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: All i've been able to find, was a recommendation to backtrack to opera 9.20
[16:39] <ElTimo> can't guarantee you won't get laughed at though :P
[16:39] <ElTimo> jk
[16:39] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: it seems there is an outright problem with code in there somewhere.. and one of them (adobe/opera) need to fix it
[16:39]  * ElTimo is an a**hole
[16:40] <erUSUL> ElTimo: the CoC guarantees that i guess
[16:40] <Nutzebahn> ooter: :'(
[16:40] <zod_> i used to play alot of cs 1,6 in Win, but now im using ubuntu, and arnt planing to go back to the lame Microsoft Windows
[16:40] <zod_> where can i download the cs 1.6?
[16:40] <ArthurArchnix> are these comments accurate? http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linux/ubuntuexpert.htm   its says it's possible to do an expert install with the alternate cd, ala debian method, a method somewhere between server and complete was what I always felt was lacking...
[16:40] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: lol, i know. it seems that it just doesnt seem to work right now
[16:40] <erUSUL> zod_: there some guides on the net on how to install cs 1.6 + wine on ubuntu
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ArthurArchnix, Without reading that.. the alternate install or server installs have alot of flexibility iun configuration
[16:41] <zod_> ah, i got the wine config done so all i need is to install cs 1,6 over wine?
[16:41] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?opsys=Linux%20i386&lng=en&ver=9.20&platform=Linux%20i386&local=y try that
[16:41] <bazhang> zod_: you need to buy cs ;]
[16:41] <derdui_> i host it at imageshack:)
[16:41] <erUSUL> zod_: yup (keep in mind i haven't done it myself)
[16:42] <Nutzebahn> ooter: Ok.
[16:42] <sinbox> is there someone that could help me finetune this script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59253/          the problem I have with it is that it doesn't open a terminal that shows the process running (as it would when I launch the app from a terminal which I would really need) and as soon as I open a terminal window it stops the process
[16:42] <Nutzebahn> ooter: Thank you.
[16:42] <Roconda> Hey, my microphone works ... but with skype it doenst work :s someone ?
[16:42] <Achoth> zod_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam
[16:42] <zod_> tnx all for the tips about 1,6
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sinbox, Have you tried #Bash
[16:42] <OoteR> Nutzebahn: sorry there isnt an easier solution, and appaerntly this one isnt even known to work perfectly :/
[16:42] <mike_> ahh i give up
[16:42] <ElTimo> Roconda: I've heard of skype being retarded like that so I don't think its just you
[16:42] <mike_> screw the webcam
[16:42] <sinbox> nope I'll ask there Jack_Sparrow thanks
[16:43] <MilitantPot> erUSUL: Thanks again, sorted it.
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Roconda, I have skype beta and everything works, audio, video everything
[16:43] <bazhang> mike_: what version of webcam internal or external
[16:43] <erUSUL> !yay | MilitantPot
[16:43] <ubot3> MilitantPot: Glad you made it! :-)
[16:43] <MilitantPot> erUSUL: would i also be able to just use /dev/hda3 or does it need the UID?
[16:44] <Roconda> but my microphone worked before :/
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> MilitantPot, either
[16:44] <mike_> bazhag: its internal and the uvc driver supports it but i cant seem to get it to work
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Roconda, check alsa mixer to be sure something didnt mute it
[16:44] <MilitantPot> Ok, I'll keep that in mind for next time I nerf grub
[16:44] <MilitantPot> thanks again
[16:44] <mike_> bazhag: i followed the make and install tutorial on the ubuntu site but it doesnt seem to work
[16:44] <zod_> so this linux world VS WIndows, who will never go back to Windows here?
[16:45] <Roconda> Jack_Sparrow: my mic is 100%
[16:45] <ElTimo> zod_: me
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Roconda, By chance did this start after the last kernel update
[16:45] <zod_> oki from my point of view i will never use Windows again
[16:45] <ElTimo> zod_:unless I really have to use something that's windows-only
[16:45] <Python1320> My server won't go to windows ever again but don't know about my gamepc
[16:45] <Hali_303> hi!
[16:45] <mike_> zod_: well im dual boot but i like linux because ther webapplications run faster and smoother but like windows because it has more of thes ubuntu ftw driver support haha.. but im thinking it
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> zod_, I paid for WIndows, SO I keep a windows partition , just in casr
[16:46] <zod_> well my laptop here works perfect, with all driver suported, so i will never change back
[16:46] <ElTimo> Jack_Sparrow: I paid for windows once.....
[16:46] <Roconda> Jack_Sparrow: I have'nt done  a kernel upgrade in a while
[16:47] <mike_> well i got the linux to help keep my windows in line if i ever get a bad ini or something i just boot here into linux and fix it then boot into windows
[16:47] <Python1320> zod_, good for you then. I can't switch to linux because I have some windows-only apps that I want to use
[16:47] <mike_> python cant you emu them via wine ?
[16:47] <Nutzebahn> ooter: What do I do after downgrading Opera? Adobe's website doesn't say that it supports Opera for Linux?
[16:47] <Python1320> And gaming is still a important thing
[16:47] <Python1320> mike_, too slow
[16:47] <ElTimo> Python1320: kvm is your best bet then ;)
[16:47] <Nutzebahn> .
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Roconda, Just suggesting things that might have borked it for you..  May I suggest /join #Alsa
[16:48] <Roconda> Jack_Sparrow: oh, didn't know there was an alsa channel
[16:48] <Roconda> thx!
[16:48] <Hali_303> SOS! if I buy an AMD Sempron 3500+ based PC, will I be able to use the AMD64 version of Ubuntu? on Wikipedia, it says that the latest sempron processors run the AMD64 instructions. does anyone have some experience? please help!
[16:48] <mike_> python1320: yeah always a problem with the wine emu =[ but none the less i find it funny how mac and linux make it easy to run windows apps were ass windows it a pain in the ass to get it to run anything but windows haha
[16:49] <Python1320> hehe
[16:49] <MilitantPotato> :D
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Hali_303, I would still stick to 32 bit unless you have a good base level of experience with Linux or ubuntu
[16:49] <bazhang> !ot
[16:49] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:49] <Python1320> mike_, I still prefer using windows-apps in windows and linux apps in linux. Dualboot ftw
[16:50] <dman> i ot tired of dual boot pretty quick
[16:50] <dman> *got
[16:50] <Hali_303> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, that's my opinion too. but I've just came across an athlon64 based machine with a faulty motherboard. and I need to replace this with something else capable of running the currently installed OS.
[16:50] <mike_> python1320: im dual between xp pro mce and ubuntu gutsy and i like it
[16:50] <nikea> i tried installed with apt-get install qt4-dev-tools qt4-designer but get unmet dependencies qt-dev-tools: Depends: libqt4-core (=4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed. Why is that happening. I have a normal gutsy install and haven't changed my sources.list at all. any idea how to fix it?
[16:50] <Python1320> mike_, same :P
[16:50] <mike_> python1320: like i said if you ever have a prob with a windows ini or something just boot here and fix it
[16:51] <Python1320> heh
[16:51] <zod_> this is an free of speach page?
[16:51] <Python1320> I'm just idling here nowadays. Haven't got any problems with my linux that google couldn't fix
[16:52] <mike_> hahah yeah thats how i managed to work ndiswrapper to fix my wireless probs
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nikea, HAve you enabled our basic repos like multiverse and universe?
[16:52] <mike_> i dont get it if we have such a powerful and obviouslly superior os here than why dont manufacturers put out more linux drivers?
[16:53] <ElTimo> because everyone uses windows mike_
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mike_, that is offtopic  but I can answer it in offtopic
[16:53] <nikea> Jack_Sparrow crap. i added universe.
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[16:53] <nikea> Jack_Sparrow i forgot about that. i only installed one app from it.
[16:54] <whitelines8EF2> can anyone tell me the time format used in /var/log/dmesg?
[16:54] <nikea> Jack_Sparrow i think it was privoxy though... which doesn't use qt even.
[16:54] <mike_> jack_sparrow: is there an offtopic channel i dont wanna break rules
[16:54] <nikea> so confused.
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[16:54] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:54] <Python1320> I feel like a traitor. I'm using debian in my server pc :D
[16:55] <bazhang> zod_: this is the ubuntu support channel; for chit-chat go to the channel above
[16:55] <mike_> python1320: isnt ubuntu a build of debian kern ?
[16:55] <Python1320> yes
[16:56] <murlidhar> somebody make my ubuntu splash work please
[16:56] <derdui_> the errorlog, i wanna paste is too much, for the pastebin, are there any other possibillities?
[16:56] <StefanW> he probaly means he isn't going hardcore enough for his server :D
[16:56] <Nutzebahn> ooter?
[16:56] <Python1320> Debian feels faster in my server than ubuntu
[16:56] <Python1320> :D
[16:56] <whitelines8EF2> I'm trying to work out when my network went down, and I can't work out the time format given by dmesg...
[16:56] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL: in cube effects how to enable multiple windfghfgdf
[16:57] <mike_> still no trator they are closey related right so its like more of a brother relationship between the to =P
[16:58] <murlidhar> somebody make my ubuntu splash work please
[16:58] <ElTimo> lol
[16:58] <mike_> whats ubuntu splash?
[16:58] <murlidhar> the start up screen
[16:58] <dman> the splash screen
[16:58]  * ElTimo waves his hands around and magically makes murlidhar's splash work
[16:58] <dman> good luck. mine never worked right until i reinstalled =/
[16:58] <quaal> ok so i mounted the nfs share on the client (/mnt and /media from the server) but it seems that the drives mounted in /mnt and /media on the server are not showing up on the nfs mounts in the client.
[16:59] <quaal> for example i have /media/usbdisk but the files are not there
[16:59] <murlidhar> i reinstalled three times still no luck
[16:59] <murlidhar>  gnome-splashscreen-manager has been installed by me but still no doesn't help.
[17:00] <Pici> !doesntwork | murlidhar
[17:00] <ubot3> murlidhar: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:00] <murlidhar> ok ok
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, Are you trying to get a custom splash?  If the default one isnt working, what hardware are you running
[17:00] <ElTimo> rofl
[17:00] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, the default one isn't working
[17:01] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, i have a default graphic card of intel
[17:01] <fus10nx> hey guys -- have you seen this yet? http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_85_sq_ft_screen_ON_THE_SIDE_OF_A_BUILDING_WOW
[17:01] <fus10nx> errr misfire
[17:01] <fus10nx> wrong room
[17:02] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, actually it worked in feisty but since upgrading to gutsy it never came up
[17:02] <derdui_> since i have set the loglevel from info to debug, i have a completely new errorlog, that has 900... lines, but i dont know which part i should paste, and the whole ist too long....
[17:02] <rednaxel> can't install wine-0.9.56 on [k]ubuntu 7.10 / winecfg gives an error
[17:02] <rednaxel> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Unknown error (998).
[17:03] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, my compiz and it's plugins are working absolutely fine. So i think it might not be because of the graphics card.
[17:06] <legend2440> murlidhar:  what do you get instead of splash? text only?
[17:06] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow, 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[17:06] <murlidhar> legend2440, nothing just black screen.
[17:07] <heymr> murlidhar: hit Ctrl F1 to see text
[17:07] <murlidhar> legend2440, though after sometime i activated to see only text.
[17:07] <heymr> Usplash is not working i take it?
[17:07] <murlidhar> heymr, thanks i know that
[17:08] <murlidhar> heymr, i want the splash to work.
[17:08] <heymr> murlidhar: sorry, just trying to help. next time I won't jump in like that :P
[17:08] <heymr> murlidhar: i figured as much
[17:08] <murlidhar> heymr, no offends here. buddy :)
[17:08] <sfears> where do you change the default program used to open things when clicked on
[17:09] <Pici> sfears: Right click on the file, theres a tab in the properties for default applications
[17:09] <heymr> sfears: right click "Open With..." or choose properties
[17:09] <Achoth> Hello. Is it possible to put a command to autostart in Ubuntu? I want "g15daemon" to be used every time I start Ubuntu.
[17:09] <sfears> isn't there a global setting?
[17:09] <heymr> sfears: thats the one
[17:09] <sfears> ok
[17:09] <legend2440> murlidhar:  Use startup manager:
[17:09] <legend2440> sudo aptitude install startupmanager
[17:09] <legend2440> or change the resolution manually:
[17:09] <legend2440> sudo cp /etc/usplash.conf /etc/usplash.conf_backup
[17:09] <legend2440> gksudo gedit /etc/usplash.conf
[17:09] <FloodBot3> legend2440: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:09] <ks3> Achoth: you want it to start when you login, or when the system boots?
[17:09] <Pici> !boot | Achoth
[17:10] <ubot3> Achoth: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[17:10] <heymr> murlidhar: cd /boot/grub
[17:10] <heymr> then edit menu.lst
[17:10] <heymr> you need to add "vga=791"
[17:10] <Achoth> ks3: When I login
[17:10] <heymr> to your kernal line
[17:10] <heymr> that will set the resolution
[17:10] <murlidhar> heymr, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=46a5e740-dfb7-4edc-beb3-94f56c7b4a70 ro vga=789 splash
[17:10] <murlidhar> heymr, this is in the menu.lst
[17:11] <heymr> make it a amaller resolution
[17:11] <Pici> !startup | Achoth  then this
[17:11] <ubot3> Achoth  then this: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[17:11] <heymr> a smaller
[17:11] <heymr> then you gotta recompile I think...
[17:11] <heymr> i forget how to do that...
[17:11] <murlidhar>  title		Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[17:11] <murlidhar> root		(hd1,7)
[17:11] <murlidhar> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=46a5e740-dfb7-4edc-beb3-94f56c7b4a70 ro vga=789 splash
[17:11] <murlidhar> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[17:11] <murlidhar> quiet
[17:11] <FloodBot3> murlidhar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <audiosensecd_> erUSUL: its working fine now but how do i enable the bottom transparencies
[17:11] <Achoth> Pici: Thanks
[17:12] <murlidhar> sorry
[17:12] <Pici> !fb | murlidhar see this for proper vga= settings
[17:12] <ubot3> murlidhar see this for proper vga= settings: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[17:12] <Templer> hi there - we have ubuntu gusty on our main home desktop and we have media ie film and music on it. I want to be able to share these folders with the XP users in our house. I have installed samba but running into some trouble configuring it. Anyone want to help me out here!
[17:12] <heymr> yep, that should fix it. and you do not need to recompile
[17:12] <bruenig> !samba
[17:12] <ubot3> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:13] <murlidhar> Pici, do ya think that might be the problem?
[17:13] <Pici> murlidhar: I think it is.
[17:14] <heymr> murlidhar: but try a smaller resolution then your real one, i had to do that with mine
[17:14] <audiosensecd_> Pici:  its working fine my cube now but how do i enable the bottom and top transparencies
[17:14] <sfears> my "open with" konqueror doesn't seem to work, open with firefox works fine.. ???
[17:14] <macogw> can OOo work with MS Access files?
[17:15] <sfears> isn't that OOo base macogw
[17:15] <Pici> audiosensecd_: Theres a setting in ccsm to change those, if you can't find it, ask in #compiz-fusion
[17:15] <heymr> sfears: try properties, then open with tab
[17:15] <murlidhar> heymr, and Pici i did now 769 for 640 X 480
[17:15] <macogw> sfears: well i dont know if it can handle that specific file format. i know it does MySQL and some others...but does it do *specifically* MS's?
[17:16] <sfears> yeah heymr i did that.. and when i double click it doesn't do anything
[17:16] <murlidhar> hopefully it should work now
[17:16] <heymr> murlidhar: good luck!
[17:16] <murlidhar> brb
[17:16] <heymr> sfears: your in kde right?
[17:16] <sfears> not sure macogw but there's one good way to find out
[17:16] <sfears> well.. i installed kubuntu & then installed ubuntu studio.. so it's kind of a hybrid
[17:16] <heymr> you mean dual boot...?
[17:16] <Templer> is there like an example of a smb.conf file for samba that i can make slight adjustments to ie paths cause that guide is a bit over my head
[17:17] <heymr> oh i see
[17:17] <erUSUL> !swat | Templer
[17:17] <sfears> konqueror works fine usually
[17:17] <ubot3> Templer: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:17] <moura> hello ubuntu friends :)
[17:17] <Templer> how do i run swat sorry im stupid
[17:18] <moura> sorry to disturb
[17:19] <moura> can anyone help me install a wireless from intel ?
[17:19] <moura> i'm really a noob
[17:19] <sfears> what's the model of your card moura?
[17:20] <moura> hi sfears
[17:20] <heymr> lspi | Wireless
[17:20] <moura> it's from intel
[17:20] <sfears> hello
[17:20] <asfak> can i get gnome 2.22 packages for ubuntu gutsy ?
[17:20] <moura> 1 second
[17:20] <murlidhar> no guesses
[17:20] <murlidhar> nothing happened
[17:20] <murlidhar> just plain black big screen
[17:21] <heymr> murlidhar: humdinger! keep trying :D  did you try gui option sum ?
[17:21] <moura> it's the intel pro wireless 3945
[17:21] <cherva> how can I permanently add a dir to my $PATH ?
[17:21] <erUSUL> Templer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[17:21] <murlidhar> heymr, i have it installed
[17:21] <moura> ubuntu installed it with a driver
[17:22] <moura> it finds wireless networks but doesn't work
[17:22] <erUSUL> cherva: redefine PATh in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[17:22] <doug__> i need an iso burner for gutsy gnome please, and not k3b anyone know any others?
[17:22] <moura> i can't really know why :(
[17:22] <murlidhar> brb
[17:22] <erUSUL> doug__: right click on the iso and choose burn to disc
[17:22] <sfears> moura open up a terminal and type "ping www.google.com"
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> doug__, right click iso and write to disk is how I do it
[17:22] <lee112> hi everyone can enyone recommend a good antivirus as avg isnt free anymore for linux
[17:22] <PunkisDead> Hello all, someone knows if wifi usb key is supported now, my key is a D-Link G122 rev.C1 (Bx is already suppoorted, but nothing about C1)
[17:23] <moura> sfears: i'm connected with cable
[17:23] <doug__> Jack_Sparrow:  will it be a bootable ?
[17:23] <moura> with wi fi i can't even open a webpage
[17:23] <sfears> ohhh.. hummm
[17:23] <heymr> moura: check archlinux wikis, they rock, search for "wireless" and there is a list of drivers
[17:23] <moura> i have a new package to install the driver
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> doug__, yes, if the original iso is..
[17:24] <moura> but i don't really know how to do that
[17:24] <moura> i met ubuntu at 2 weeks
[17:24] <moura> since then i'v read a lot of manuals
[17:24] <moura> but it's not easy
[17:24] <sfears> you may have to use ndiswrapper moura.. but if you say it's detecting wireless networks it sounds like something else to me.. ndiswrapper is a way to make windows drivers work
[17:24] <doug__> Jack_Sparrow:  it is a xp pro iso i am making right now.
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> moura, Please keep your questions on one line...
[17:25] <moura> Jack_Sparrow: i'm sorry
[17:25] <moura> won't do it again
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:25] <lee112> does anybody bother with antivirus for ubuntu?
[17:26] <sfears> moura.. is your wireless card plugged in?
[17:26] <brobostigon> lee112: no
[17:26] <erUSUL> lee112: i do not see the need for using one
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus | lee112
[17:26] <ubot3> lee112: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[17:26] <derdui_> ok, i have ist:) can anybody help me please? and say me whats wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59266/
[17:26] <moura> sfears:  yup
[17:26] <sfears> is it usb?
[17:26] <moura> no
[17:26] <pixael> leell2: nope you can use clamav if you are para
[17:26] <Pici> lee112: Unless you are serving mail or acting as a fileserver for windows clients, theres no need for antivirus (and even then, its to protect them, not you)
[17:26] <moura> i have a laptop toshiba tecra 8
[17:26] <snama> hey whats up
[17:26] <legend2440> !antivirus | lee112
[17:26] <ubot3> lee112: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[17:26] <sfears> in a terminal type "lspci" and past the line that's closest to your wireless card
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> derdui_, You need to tell people the basics of the problem and not just post a link .. thanks
[17:27] <lee112> thanks everyone
[17:28] <moura> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:28] <sfears> lspci... "ls" for list "pci" for the pci bus that your hardware is connected to
[17:28] <sfears> cool.. hold on moura
[17:28] <snama> can anyone help me make one of my two soundcards default? as there is no alsaconf in ubuntu i ask here. the reason is that i need the joystick port for use with a midi adapter.
[17:28] <moura> nice!
[17:28] <moura> i'm learning i'm learning :D
[17:28] <snama> the card i want for default is built in
[17:28] <snama> it has no joystick port
[17:29] <snama> anyone?
[17:29] <faileas> hmm
[17:29] <vignesh> can i use ubuntustudio as general purpose ubuntu ??
[17:29] <Fat-head> if i installed something from source, how would i uninstall it afterwards ?
[17:29] <snama> yes you can
[17:29] <faileas> can someone tell me the command for mounting a cd image?
[17:30] <faileas> Fat-head: thats why you should use checkinstall instead of make install
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> vignesh, We dont support ubuntustudio in here..
[17:30] <sfears> moura.. system/administration/network get into the properties of your intel card
[17:30] <kondom> :E
[17:30] <kondom> is my nick family friendly?
[17:30] <sfears> kondom.. haha
[17:30] <vignesh> Jack_Sparrow, oh sorry..
[17:30] <visof> hello
[17:30] <audiosensecd_> Jack_Sparrow: what was the setting for multiple window when you rotate a cube?
[17:30] <visof> how can i extract zip file?
[17:30] <Adrenalin`> Any ideea why mine ubuntu doesn't have the "man" command ? (Have some kind of cutted ubuntu), and how to install the man ?
[17:30] <Fat-head> faileas but is there a way to uninstall something installed from source?
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd_, ask in compiz
[17:31] <visof> what is the required command?
[17:31] <kondom> visof, unzip
[17:31] <snama> well vignesh i can tell you that ubuntu studio is just the regulair ubuntu with audio purpose packages
[17:31] <Bucketphase> Hi
[17:31] <snama> and some other theme
[17:31] <sfears> hello Bucketphase
[17:31] <snama> and icons
[17:31] <vignesh> snama, can i use that in place of normal ubuntu?? will all the packages be supported??
[17:31] <moura> sfears: wireless properties ?
[17:31] <snama> yes
[17:31] <Bucketphase> I need some help burning an ISO to a DVD. I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good program for doing such. Preferably GUI, there is no honour in wasting your last DVD-R :D
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> audiosensecd_, While I am in that channel...  I try to avoid providing support in there
[17:31] <snama> as far as i know it uses the same repositories
[17:31] <sfears> in the network box there should be a few things listed.. highlight your wireless card & click on properties
[17:32] <snama> its the same ubuntu as the regulair one
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Adrenalin`, what version did you install?
[17:32] <moura> sfears: done
[17:32] <derdui_> ok, the problem is, that my printer doenst print but i can see in in cups, the printing orders are also listet.... i guess its a probl with usb, because i cant change my mashine to local printer... and so it doesnt open the usb port... the link is my errorlog, after i changed the loglevel in the cupsd.conf from info to debug Jack_Sparrow
[17:32] <audiosensecd_> Jack_Sparrow: sorry he he he
[17:33] <sfears> what's in there moura.. is there a name in the network name? are thte connection settings set to automatic?
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> derdui_, Gotta be a cannon printer..ugh
[17:33] <moura> sfears: yup
[17:33] <moura> the wireless network i connect to in windows is present
[17:33] <moura> i put all the settings
[17:33] <sfears> is the name of the network the network you want to be connected to?
[17:33] <moura> password
[17:33] <moura> dchp settings to automatic
[17:33] <derdui_> yes, that right Jack_Sparrow
[17:33] <lordleemo> Bucketphase: http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/ if you want a gui
[17:33] <moura> and nothing
[17:33] <moura> i read something about it on internet
[17:34] <moura> i shoul install a new package from intel
[17:34] <Bucketphase> Thanks, I'll check it out.
[17:34] <legend2440> faileas:  to mount iso    sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso mountpoint
[17:34] <sfears> in the title bar what's listed "wlan1"?
[17:34] <moura> iwifi
[17:34] <MasterShrek> i have a computer with an xserver open (i use vnc to connect to it) but sometimes i ssh to it, is there a way i can start a program in the xserver through ssh?
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | moura
[17:34] <ubot3> moura: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:34] <moura> or something like that
[17:34] <moura> sorry again :(
[17:34] <sfears> ok
[17:34] <sfears> in terminal type iwconfig
[17:35] <Brandon_> arg what is with this random "WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!" thing when I try and use ssh sometime. How do I get rid of it
[17:35] <Adrenalin`> Any ideea why mine ubuntu doesn't have the "man" command ? (Have some kind of cutted ubuntu), and how to install the man ?
[17:35] <icmp_> rm .ssh/known_hosts
[17:35] <Ashfire908> what would i use to delete all but certian files/folder from a directory?
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> moura, please understand that when 15 of the lines on my screen are yours and each one has two or three words.. it isnt helpful
[17:36] <moura> jack u are right
[17:36] <legend2440> !iso | faileas
[17:36] <ubot3> faileas: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[17:36] <Adrenalin`> I mean.. Have a special low size ubuntu for colinux, and it doesn't have the man command (I think removed for the size), any way to reinstall it ?
[17:36] <icmp_> moura, try to be less to the point please. That'd help everyone.
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Adrenalin`, What ubuntu disk did you use to install
[17:36] <Adrenalin`> Jack_Sparrow no, I used a image for colinux
[17:37] <The_Entropy> hello everyone
[17:37] <moura> well from what i read on ubuntu foruns that's a general problem
[17:37] <moura> but ok
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Adrenalin`, Perhaps they have a channel
[17:37] <sfears> moura, sorry.. type ifconfig into a terminal.. is there an inet addr: listed beside the name of your wireless
[17:37] <Jeriath> anyone have any idea what is causing this.....im using samba to mount a share
[17:37] <Adrenalin`> They have.. But the command is for ubuntu.. Can't find any package with "man", hah, funny
[17:37] <Jeriath> session request to 192.168.0.5 failed (Called name not present)
[17:37] <Jeriath> session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
[17:37] <Jeriath> session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present)
[17:37] <Jeriath> NetBIOS over TCP disabled -- no workgroup available
[17:37] <The_Entropy> I just finished upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10(yes I know, was long due) anyway, now 3D performance is really bad and it wasn't before
[17:38] <Jeriath> this is what i get when i try to mount:  tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[17:38] <Jeriath> SMB connection failed
[17:38] <moura> sfears: ty for the help m8
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeriath, Please stop
[17:38] <moura> stay cool
[17:38] <Slipping420> can someone help me with a graphic driver issue
[17:38] <Jeriath> ?
[17:38] <The_Entropy> anyone have an idea on what may be wrong?
[17:38] <sfears> do you have your WORKGROUP on both machines set to the same thing Jeriath
[17:38] <bazhang> The_Entropy: what card and what driver and how did you install please
[17:39] <sfears> your welcome moura
[17:39] <Jeriath> not sure....one is a windows machine and one is ubuntu
[17:39] <snama> can anyone help me set one of my two soundcards default? its one built in (Via HD audio) and another Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 (EMU10K1)
[17:39] <Jeriath> how do i check the workgroup for ubuntu
[17:39] <The_Entropy> card is an intel card, can't find the relevant line in lspci right now, which is really weird
[17:39] <Jeriath> nvm
[17:39] <Jeriath> no
[17:39] <The_Entropy> upgraded from the update manager
[17:39] <AtomicSpark> I'm trying to add network printers on a network that has a lot of them, i don't want ubuntu to autofind them, i want to specify an ip address to go to. is there anyway to manually add a printer?
[17:39] <The_Entropy> the binary driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:39] <Jeriath> the server is in mshome apparently and the windows machine is in workgroup
[17:40] <sfears> system/administration/network general tab
[17:40] <ghfreak51> can someone give me the link to a good ISO burner.. one that burns the entire 700MB of ubuntu
[17:40] <snama> on windows? or on linux?
[17:40] <The_Entropy> there's also xserver-xorg-video-i810 they're both installed(although they didn't use to be)
[17:40] <sfears> make sure the host name matches your windows workgroup
[17:40] <bazhang> ghfreak51: for windows or ubuntu
[17:40] <snama> ghfreak
[17:40] <The_Entropy> which is also weird
[17:40] <ghfreak51> ubuntu
[17:40] <Slipping420> can someone please im me
[17:40] <snama> gnomebaker?
[17:40] <ghfreak51> i'm burning it with wiondows
[17:40] <snama> aha
[17:40] <snama> infrarecorder
[17:40] <bazhang> isorecorder2 ghfreak51
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ghfreak51, isorecorder
[17:40] <ghfreak51> thanks!
[17:41] <snama> +oh
[17:41] <snama> i thought you meant burning
[17:41] <snama> nevermind
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> snama, isorecorder is a burner
[17:41] <snama> yeah
[17:41] <vignesh> wikipedia says, "ubuntustudio can be installed from existing ubuntu via apt" ... any idea of how to do it??
[17:41] <The_Entropy> bazhang, okay this is really weird, the graphic card is no longer listed in either lspci or the hardware information applet
[17:41] <snama> it just sounded like making an iso out of cd
[17:41] <sfears> hold on a sec entropy
[17:41] <snama> by its name
[17:41] <ghfreak51> i need a burner.. the ones i keep getting only burn 81.3MB of the file
[17:41] <bazhang> vignesh: add their repos and whatever apps you want
[17:41] <zod_> omg i ust love the linux world allready, did install and fine calibrade all to day ;)
[17:42] <bastid_raZor> ghfreak51; i like some KDE apps .. K3b being one of them.. K3b kicks tail for a burning application
[17:42] <Mikey> I'm getting a kernel panic.  I was updating while running VM ware, then out of nowhere gnome seemed to disapear.  So I restarted and I get this Ramdisk out of compressed data invalid compressed format (err=1) kernel panick -  not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unkown block (0,0)
[17:42] <vignesh> bazhang, can u plz tel in detail?
[17:42] <bazhang> The_Entropy: that is odd..
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | Slipping420
[17:42] <ubot3> Slipping420: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[17:42] <zod_> any pro hackers here?
[17:42] <Slipping420> sorry\
[17:43] <Slipping420> im trying to get my monitor to work at a different resolution
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> zod_, Hacking discussion is ot
[17:43] <sfears> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[17:43] <ubot3> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:43] <Mikey> !kernel panic
[17:43] <ubot3> Factoid kernel panic not found
[17:43] <zod_> ah sorry about that Jack_Sparrow my bad
[17:43] <Slipping420> but everytime i change it it goes back to hte default
[17:43] <vignesh> sfears, which repo should i add..??
[17:43] <The_Entropy> bazhang, http://pastebin.ca/938468 is the full lspci output
[17:44] <sfears> hold
[17:44] <vignesh> sfears, it says package ubuntustudio-desktop not found..
[17:44] <Lifeisfunny> Does the channel bot have a webpage that can help me set up the firewall for that port113 ident that some IRC networks require?
[17:44] <The_Entropy> ah it is in there
[17:44] <zod_> come again? kenel panic? who got that?
[17:44] <The_Entropy> bazhang, nevermind, it is in there >_>
[17:44] <Mikey> Is there a way to fix the kernel in ubuntu instead of reinstalling?
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Slipping420, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[17:44] <The_Entropy> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) that's the relevant line
[17:44] <taner> hi
[17:44] <The_Entropy> don't know how I missed it >_>
[17:44] <zod_> well u can try to update the kenel Mikey, if posseble
[17:44] <sfears> try adding repo http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[17:44] <Lifeisfunny> hey taner
[17:44] <shane_> I can only get one desktop on my display.  Has that been fixed yet?
[17:45] <vignesh> sfears, thanku..
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Mikey, Are you running ubuntu from vm in windows?
[17:45] <sfears> i'm not exactally sure which one it is.. i'm pretty sure the ubuntustudio.org isn't active anymore
[17:45] <bazhang> back in a bit
[17:45] <Mikey> zod_: I cannot even get into ubuntu.  How can I update the kernel from livecd
[17:45] <sfears> let mne know if that works vignesh
[17:45] <vignesh> sfears, sure..
[17:45] <esref> loo
[17:45] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow: No
[17:46] <taner> yes i see
[17:46] <esref> ooo shit
[17:46] <jussi01> !ohmy | esref
[17:46] <ubot3> esref: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:46] <zod_> mikey to fix ure ubuntu im not sure about that live cd, i have ubuntu as main os now, and fix all problems there, try to burn out an new Ubuntu disk, not sure if that is any help but try that
[17:46] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow:  I run windows in VMserver on Ubuntu
[17:46] <esref> ok dude
[17:46] <esref> no problem
[17:46] <taner> ok no matter
[17:46] <mincevv> I have problems with my Canon ip4300 printer in Ubuntu 7.10. Most tutorials I found are about installing, mine printer is installed and works. But.. Colors I get out are darker than it should be. Any tip how to fix this?
[17:46] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow: While during an update, gnome disapeared
[17:47] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow: now I have a kernel panick
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Mikey, can you get cli in recovery mode
[17:47] <finalbeta> Does evolution support http over rpc?
[17:47] <Sl4y3r> !res
[17:47] <ubot3> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Mikey, Did you EVER use automatix or envy?
[17:48] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow: Recovery doesn't work, and No
[17:49] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/86080/ shows a 'Math coprocessor' but my Laptop does not have any math coprocessor. What does lspnp show here?
[17:49] <Laruft> how can I mount hd ubuntu/ntfs xp partitions from the live cd install
[17:49] <x_> hey
[17:50] <x_> I installed my own version of amsn and kubuntu keeps replacing it.
[17:50] <x_> how do I prevent it from being updated?
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning | x_
[17:50] <ubot3> x_: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[17:51] <x_> Jack_Sparrow, amsn_0.97-0+svn20070418~3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[17:51] <x_> this is the package
[17:51] <x_> how do I pin it?
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Read the tutorial
[17:52] <x_> Jack_Sparrow, I edited /etc/apt/preferences, but still doesn't solve the problem
[17:52] <x_> In fact
[17:52] <x_> I had to create it
[17:52] <x_> because it did not exist
[17:53] <Cyberai> is anyone else having the problem where the scim applet keeps popping up and switching your keyboard to armenian? I wouldn't complain, but my keyboard keeps taking over the local tenement housing and threatening to cut off peoples fingers over rent.
[17:53] <Mikey> Jack_Sparrow: Was your tutorial referenced to me?
[17:54] <sim_bool> Hi
[17:55] <bool> anyone alive?
[17:55] <bool> sim_bool: hi to you too
[17:55] <The_Entropy> yep
[17:55] <Dr3w> Hello!
[17:55] <The_Entropy> 'sup?
[17:55] <sfears> if i have a windows laptop connected wirelessly & a crossover cabled hooked up to my linux laptop how do i connect to the net? is that why i would need to set up a gateway?
[17:56] <Dr3w> Can anyone help me please?  I am trying to do an apt-get install proftpd on a new install of 6.06LTS and am getting size missmatch errors "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/proftpd/proftpd-common_1.2.10-27ubuntu3.1_i386.deb  Size mismatch"
[17:56] <Bucketphase> um
[17:56] <Bucketphase> Acetoneiso refused to install =/
[17:56] <Jeriath> sfears: i changed the workgroup, but i still cant mount anything
[17:56] <Bucketphase> Any other ideas?
[17:56] <sfears> have you rebooted jeriath?
[17:56] <even> hi, i'm installing the xubuntu-desktop, but installing acpid, that give me a error opening /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy. and dpkg stops. what i can do ?!
[17:56] <Dr3w> I have tried apt-get update and apt-get update --fix-missing, but still get the errors.
[17:56] <Jeriath> yep
[17:56] <sfears> Dr3w, have you updated your apt?.. sudo apt-get update
[17:56] <Dr3w> I have also tried removing the gb frmo my apt-sources and still get the errors.
[17:57] <Dr3w> sfears yes, done that.
[17:57] <Bucketphase> Uhhhhhhh
[17:57] <Bucketphase> Are there any other options to acetoneiso?
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> x_, http://cse.ucdavis.edu/users/sbeards/blog/pinning-software-packages-in-ubuntu                What did you add to preferences?
[17:59] <x_> Jack_Sparrow, the problem is, the package versions are the same...
[17:59] <x_> except that kubuntu considers one newer than the other
[18:00] <x_> they are the same version, but one is linked against tk 8.4 and the other against tk 8.5
[18:00] <Booh-> I will reinstall my laptop from scratch... It's HP TX1418CA amd turion, nvidia.  Should I used AMD64 or 32bits version?  Is 64bits version enough mature now?
[18:01] <TuTUXG__> Booh-, no java and flash on 64 bits
[18:01] <TuTUXG__> Booh-, sort of
[18:01] <deviank> vmware/virtualbox or any better prog to run xp as a vm on uvuntu?
[18:01] <Mikey> I'm getting a kernel panic.  I was updating while running VM ware, then out of nowhere gnome seemed to disapear.  So I restarted and I get this Ramdisk out of compressed data invalid compressed format (err=1) kernel panick -  not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unkown block (0,0)
[18:01] <Dr3w> exit
[18:01] <Dr3w> oops :0
[18:02] <sebrock_> can anypne help me, Im trying pbuilder on mythtv
[18:02] <sebrock_> http://www.pastebin.ca/938482
[18:03] <Booh-> If I re-download the installation, are updates included?
[18:03] <cptmorgan> i have a module 3w_xxxx and i need to replace it with 3w_95xxx which is already compiled... what would be the proper way to tell ubuntu to use that module instead of 3w_xxxx? blacklist 3w_xxxx and add 3w_95xx to /etc/modules? if so where do i dump the new module /var/lib/modules...?
[18:04] <pete> hm... I'm on an Acer 5100, default resolution is 1280 X 800 but I can't seem to revert back to that default
[18:05] <pete> ideas anyone?
[18:05] <^4nDr3s> pete: i think you will have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> pete, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[18:07] <jagggy> eval: my $var = 'doesnt matter'; @var2 = split (/ /,  $var); print "$var[0] $var[1]";
[18:07] <pete> thanks
[18:08] <DRebellion> Jack_Sparrow, pastebinit?
[18:08] <pete> I'll give that a try
[18:08] <gigo> under which section will I find libstdc++5 in packages.ubuntu.com ?
[18:08] <jagggy> err :s ???
[18:08] <jagggy> uup wrong channel excuse me
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> DRebellion, type that line in a term and see
[18:09] <strabes> could someone help me run the patch located on this website? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=519737
[18:09] <ubot3> Gnome bug 519737 in iPod "Duplicate tracks added to library after pluging in ipod" [Normal,New]
[18:09] <frank_> gigo: just do a search for it. it's in main
[18:10] <gigo> frank_: ok
[18:10] <DRebellion> Jack_Sparrow, nifty XD
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[18:11] <Jack_Sparrow> DRebellion, Sure saves me time and explanations
[18:11] <DRebellion> Jack_Sparrow, =/ but no ubuntu pastebins
[18:12] <Warlink> hey guys.. jeg just installet ubuntu on my desktop.. but I can't coneckt to the internet.. any idear of what to do..?
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DRebellion, Actually, canoe in upstreamdev will uyse ubuntu's bins
[18:12] <lamppost> strapes: I am on my way out but try looking up the program diff
[18:12] <lamppost> strabes *
[18:12] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/86080/ shows a 'Math coprocessor' but my Laptop does not have any math coprocessor. What does lspnp show here?
[18:13] <strabes> lamppost: when i run the patch command it asks me which file to patch, and i don't know what to put in there
[18:13] <lamppost> Ive never really done it myself
[18:13] <lamppost> It should do it automatically as far as I know
[18:13] <strabes> oh =\ well thanks anyway
[18:13] <lamppost> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=106519&action=edit
[18:13] <gigo> strabes: you can do something like: patch -p0 < file.patch
[18:14] <frank_> bullgard4: maybe it's just the floating point unit of your cpu. math coprocessors haven't existed in a long time
[18:14] <gigo> strabes: to do this you have to place the patch file in the project directory and enter that command.
[18:15] <strabes> gigo: ok, how do I find out the project directory?
[18:15] <bullgard4> frank_: I'd appreciate a more sound explanation.
[18:16] <gigo> strabes: you should know it because you are going to apply the patch to something, aren't you?
[18:16] <lamppost> strabes: The programs on ubuntu usually aren't compiled by the end user so the source code probably isn't there if you didn't install it by hand
[18:16] <drc> bullgard4:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprocessor
[18:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DRebellion, pastebinit does support -b command arg's but not the ubuntu pastebin.. let me work on that..
[18:16] <strabes> gigo: yes, it's a rhythmbox patch. It is just the rhythmbox from the repos though.
[18:17] <lamppost> You have to download the source, apply the patch to the directory, and then compile it
[18:17] <strabes> lamppost: correct
[18:17] <strabes> lamppost: oh, alright. this will be an adventure
[18:17] <Alaerus> I couldn't switch my wireless on! so I am using my LAN cable instead.. how can I switch my wireless on? Intel wireless pro 3945ABG
[18:17] <Alaerus> please help
[18:17] <gigo> strabes: hmm. see what lampost has said. you'll have to get the source code and copy the patch to the source code directory and then run the command I gave.
[18:17] <strabes> gigo: awesome. will do, thanks a lot
[18:18] <hanabi> Hi.. I have a DWL-650+ Cardbus adapter which I can't seem to get working.. I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 - the Gutsy Gibbon
[18:18] <lamppost> when you download source there is usually an instruction on how to compile it too, good luck, bye
[18:19] <bullgard4> drc: Did you read the article you are referencing?
[18:19] <Spegulo> hi all
[18:19] <drc> yes
[18:19] <noble-> When I try to enter a new server name into my server list in Xchat, it changes right back to (newserver/6667) every single time. I even tried editing xchat's server list and it still ignores it. Any ideas how I can actually enter a new servername in my server list?
[18:19] <bullgard4> drc: Where is there written the answer to the question which I have put?
[18:20] <RanBlade> Hello all, I have been trying to install ubuntu on my machine but every time I try to start it up the monitor goes out of sync when ubuntu would be loading up. been searching the net for awhile and cant find anyhting when trying to install it.
[18:20] <dav7> What would be the fastest way to write a sort of animation system for "low power" PCs? I think think that running a pile of images is probably the best idea, but maybe an exotic system that "prereads" a pile of images then writes them into some sort of "only update changed pixels" system would probably be the "crazy solution" that would give max performance.
[18:20] <frank_> bullgard4: from that article: These on-chip floating point processors are still referred to as coprocessors because they operate in parallel with the main CPU
[18:21] <Spegulo> is anibody from russia here?
[18:21] <frank_> !ru | Spegulo
[18:21] <ubot3> Spegulo: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:21] <civico> hola
[18:21] <MasseR> Hi. Burning dvd crashes my computer and therefore ruins my dvd's. I'm using kubuntu, but it is not related to k3b only since using cdrecord also crashes
[18:22] <bullgard4> frank_: Thank you very much for commenting.
[18:22] <drc> bullgard4:  "What does lspnp show here?" Sorry, it does not answer <that> question.  I misnderstood "I'd appreciate a more sound explanation." to mean why math coprocessor weren't used nowadays.  My error, sorry
[18:23] <dav7> But I'm thinking that... hm... I'd require C for that... so what would be the best solution that didn't require any sort of C(.*) usage?
[18:23] <bullgard4> drc: Thank you very much for your cooperation.
[18:23] <Aragorn94> im wondering why iTunes wont install when i download it for ubuntu....
[18:25] <Aragorn94> is it true that you can install itunes on ubuntu
[18:25] <geirha> !itunes | Aragorn94
[18:25] <ubot3> Aragorn94: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[18:25] <Mikey> !panic
[18:25] <ubot3> Factoid panic not found
[18:25] <Aragorn94> hmm, i know its not available on linux, but i'd heard it was on ubuntu.... lol
[18:26] <Aragorn94> oh well
[18:26] <Mikey> !kernel panic
[18:26] <ubot3> Factoid kernel panic not found
[18:26] <geirha> Aragorn94: if it's available on ubuntu, it's available on linux and vice versa
[18:26] <MasseR> Ubuntu is linux
[18:26] <Aragorn94> i'll just switch to windoze xp every time i need itunes
[18:26] <Aragorn94> yeah, i know
[18:26] <bullgard4> Aragorn94: Consider installing Rhythmbox.
[18:26] <Mikey> Can I not just mount the root partition and do a chroot envireonement and update the kernel
[18:27] <Aragorn94> i have that bullgard4
[18:27] <^4nDr3s> Aragorn94: maybe you can install it with wine
[18:27] <Aragorn94> i tried wine
[18:27] <Aragorn94> thats what i meant
[18:27] <Aragorn94> it wouldnt install though :\
[18:28] <geirha> Aragorn94: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[18:28] <moi-meme> any suggestions on how to access an HP 7580 networked printer?  I can access the device from the browser but cannot print to it
[18:28] <Aragorn94> thank you geirha
[18:29] <Alaerus> can you give me any ideas how to switch on my intel pro wireless adapter 3945ABG? the switch button doesn't work
[18:30] <MasseR> It burns for about 30 mb's but then it crases
[18:30] <smick2> My install completed of Hardy Heron, but just like last night's 7.10 install, GRUB couldn't write itself. I'm using the live cd right now, is there some instructions for fixing this problem and getting grub to create itself?
[18:31] <DonkeyKong101> when does the new release coming out?
[18:31] <noam_> Aragorn94, they say itunes works on latest wine
[18:31] <tritium> !hardy | DonkeyKong101
[18:31] <ubot3> DonkeyKong101: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:31] <StefanW> DonkeyKong101: end ofapril
[18:31] <bluebanana> hello, everyone. i'm configuring ekiga (sip softphone) for the first time. Page 5 (of 10) is about "NAT Type". STUN Test Result: Cone Nat. How do I know if my router does not natively support SIP or H.323? We have a linksys G router.
[18:32] <Aragorn94> noam_ according to the link geirha gave me, itunes will not work even on wine :\
[18:32] <DonkeyKong101> ok cool
[18:32] <^4nDr3s> smick2:  try following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[18:32] <Aragorn94> but i can always switch to windoze xp every time i use itunes, i guess
[18:32] <noam_> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10543
[18:32] <smick2> Thanks ^4dDr3s
[18:33] <noam_> "as of wine 0.9.57 the itunes music store seems to work"
[18:33] <Harkins> Nautilus sometimes asks me for the password to a keyring -- where can I change this password?
[18:33] <amidaniel> Aragorn94: itunes should run fine under just about any nix environment .. what problem are you having?
[18:33] <^4nDr3s> Aragorn94: what you need itones for, there are other good players inlinux
[18:33] <enzo> is it possible to launch a script with screen in cron ?
[18:33] <gcc_> тут русские есть?:)
[18:33] <thehumanerror> why does "ls -lah .*" list all the contents of the hidden files but "cp -r .*" copy *all* *of* *the* *files* in the working directory
[18:33] <enzo> i get the error 'Must be connected to a terminal' when i put screen php script.php in cron
[18:33] <Aragorn94> amidaniel and ^4nDr3s nevermind
[18:34] <amidaniel> hrmkay
[18:34] <jarmes> i have recently install vsftpd and was wondering if it is possible to automatically set the file permissions of uploaded files
[18:34] <jarmes> it appears to default to 600
[18:34] <^4nDr3s> !ipod
[18:34] <ubot3> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:34] <Lovecats> can someone please explain to me about the "General" panel in the Network Settings dialog? there are 2 items under "Host Settings", Host name: and Domain name
[18:34] <^4nDr3s> !ipod | Aragorn94
[18:34] <ubot3> Aragorn94: please see above
[18:34] <^4nDr3s> !ipod > Aragorn94
[18:35] <geirha> noam_, Aragorn94: indeed, rated silver now. guess that guide is getting too old then :)
[18:35] <renfrew> does anyone know of a listing of PGP/GPG key servers online?  I hosed my key files :(
[18:35] <ItchyHobo> !RockBox
[18:35] <ubot3> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[18:35] <amidaniel> renfrew: subkeys.pgp.net ?
[18:35] <renfrew> thanks amidaniel!
[18:36] <Jeriath> anyone recommend an ftp client that supports sftp
[18:36] <Aragorn94> !RockBox
[18:36] <ubot3> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[18:36] <Jeriath> like graphical version
[18:36] <drc> renfrew:  pgp.mit.edu
[18:36] <Aragorn94> i'll try rockbox
[18:36] <thehumanerror> GNOME's FTP support doesn't support SFTP?
[18:36] <Jeriath> whats it called?
[18:36] <Jeriath> i have no idea
[18:37] <Jeriath> dont use linux a lot
[18:37] <Jeriath> windows machine is just down atm
[18:37] <thehumanerror> okay, you don't have to start a program
[18:37] <^4nDr3s> Aragorn94: it is pretty good and you can install plenty of games xDD
[18:37] <geirha> thehumanerror: places -> connect to -> Type: SSH is actually sftp
[18:37] <thehumanerror> really? I thought Windows was really reliable ;)
[18:37] <Aragorn94> i dont need games
[18:37] <Jeriath> yea
[18:37] <Jeriath> ok
[18:37] <thehumanerror> geirha: thanks, it wasn't me asking though :)
[18:37] <Jeriath> windows it a pita
[18:37] <Mikey> IS there a guru around who has expierence in fixing kernels
[18:38] <thehumanerror> Jeriath: you got that? Just follow that, you should find it does what you need
[18:38] <Aragorn94> Can RockBox play songs that I bought from the iTunes Store but have not burned onto a disc yet?
[18:38] <MasseR> Burning dvd crashes my computer and therefore ruins my dvd's. I'm using kubuntu, but it is not related to k3b only since using cdrecord also crashes
[18:38] <thehumanerror> it'll remember the connection for you, although sometimes that can be annoying
[18:38] <geirha> thehumanerror: well, now you know anyway :p
[18:38] <moi-meme> any suggestions on how to access an HP 7580 networked printer?  I can access the device from the browser but cannot print to it
[18:38] <Mikey> Is there a guru around who has expierence in fixing kernels
[18:38] <thehumanerror> Aragorn94: definitely not, those songs are restricted with digital restrictions management
[18:38] <Aragorn94> thehumanerror: dang....
[18:39] <thehumanerror> unless they are the odd ones that don't use DRM (they have an experiment going on with EMI songs don't they?)
[18:39] <thehumanerror> you might be able to find software that can decrypt them, but you almost certainly won't find that here
[18:39] <Aragorn94> i'll have to switch to windoze xp for itunes
[18:39] <thehumanerror> so don't ask
[18:39] <CreativeEmbassy> my computer just started acting weird
[18:39] <mincevv> moi-meme: with windows you need to make that port... Didn't do it with Ubuntu but ther is starter idea
[18:39] <Jeriath> it didnt do anything
[18:39] <thehumanerror> I would ditch iTunes ASAP, stick with Windows if you want, but don't buy encrypted music
[18:39] <Alaerus> come on.. who will help me with my wireless problem?!
[18:39] <CreativeEmbassy> and when I restarted it, xwindows didn't come up
[18:39] <Jeriath> nothing came up when i hit connect :/
[18:39] <CreativeEmbassy> :-(
[18:40] <CreativeEmbassy> but when I ran startx, it worked fine
[18:40] <thehumanerror> Aragorn94 or Jeriath, you can /msg me in a bit if you want, but I have to go eat
[18:40] <thehumanerror> I'll stick about
[18:40] <CreativeEmbassy> some of my programs are missing now...
[18:40] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm missing compiz-switch and swiftweasel
[18:40] <Aragorn94> thehumanerror: i dont need to
[18:40] <geirha> Jeriath: it should've created a bookmark of sorts, that you can double click on to connect
[18:40] <renfrew> thanks DRC.. I can't remember which server I posted my public key to though lol.. need a list... oh well back to google :)
[18:40] <CreativeEmbassy> anyone identify with my symptoms?
[18:40] <Jeriath> oh
[18:40] <DRebellion> Is the firefox-3.0 package in the repos beta 4?
[18:40] <Jeriath> xchat hid it :P
[18:40] <Jeriath> thanks
[18:41] <CreativeEmbassy> I don't think I changed any system settings
[18:41] <Aragorn94> i have feisty fawn and im considering installing gutsy gib. but i've heard its got problems. is it better or worse than feisty?
[18:41] <Jeriath> now i just have to find my name
[18:42] <Jeriath> since apparently i can see any file on the server :/
[18:42] <Ax-Ax> Hm.. "axel@hollywood:~$ find /home/axel/ -name unreal*" does search but "axel@hollywood:~$ find /home/axel/ -name Unreal*" gets "find: paths must precede expression"
[18:43] <exneo> hey my creative zen doesn't work with gnomad what do I do
[18:43] <Aragorn94>  i have feisty fawn and im considering installing gutsy gib. but i've heard its got problems. is it better or worse than feisty?
[18:44] <geirha> Ax-Ax: find /home/axel -name "Unreal*"   # it's important that you either escape or quote the wildcards
[18:44] <geirha> Ax-Ax: and you can use -iname for case insensitive search
[18:44] <Ax-Ax> oh
[18:45] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, used em both gutsy is way better
[18:45] <frank_> Aragorn94: try the gutsy livecd to see if hardware works well before upgrading
[18:45] <Cale1> gutsy is better imo
[18:45] <CreativeEmbassy> anyone have an answer to my question?
[18:45] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, but had some serious issues with firefox and my intel 965 (compiz doesn't support it)
[18:45] <Aragorn94> ItchyHobo: Isn't the installation like two hours long?
[18:45] <da> Is audio & video hardware of Sony Vaio CR series supported on ubuntu?
[18:46] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, nope
[18:46] <Aragorn94> ItchyHobo: how long?
[18:46] <geirha> Aragorn94: there's always people that have problems with ubuntu, and typically see posts where gutsy has problems because that's the latest release and everyone uses it
[18:46] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, dont remeber exactly but it is definitely not 2 hours long :)
[18:46] <geirha> Aragorn94: s/and typically/and you typically/
[18:47] <Aragorn94> geirha: ok i wont waste my time lol
[18:47] <Aragorn94> i just wont fool with it
[18:47] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, firefox is't very stable on gutsy, mine has issues with java and opening new windows; it just freezes
[18:48] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, sometimes it works fine
[18:48] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, and yeah google toolbar with firefox also has some probs
[18:48] <Aragorn94> To all Ubuntu users, Last.fm rocks! [although that is a bit off-topic] :\
[18:48] <Mikey> Is there a guru around who has expierence in fixing kernels
[18:49] <compbrain> Mikey: Fixing kernels?
[18:49] <ItchyHobo> Aragorn94, but the saddest thing is i didn't get to enjoy compiz cuz i have an intel965ryck motherboard :(
[18:50] <Aragorn94> hmph
[18:50] <ItchyHobo> Mikey, did u try threatening the kernel with a knife?
[18:50] <Mikey> compbrain: Yes, going into a chroot environment and rebuilding the kernel
[18:50] <Aragorn94> ItchyHobo: kernels are quite good on salads
[18:50] <killme> I have a problem with my Ubuntu gipsy gibbon, and it's that when I'm not working on the computer for a while, it suspends(?) and after that I'm not able to "wake it up" so I have to reboot
[18:50] <killme> any ideas ?
[18:50] <Mikey> ItchyHobo: No, Ubuntu was updating a couple of days agos and ever since then I have had a kernel panic
[18:51] <Gary_inNYC> panic?
[18:51] <^4nDr3s> killme: i think there is a bug related to that, i have the same prob
[18:51] <ItchyHobo> basically cant u restore your kernel and then reinstall
[18:51] <Mikey> fdisk -l won't even show me any partitions, but a gentoo livecd works
[18:51] <ItchyHobo> anybody knows how to do that?
[18:51] <killme> ^4nDr3s ah
[18:51] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: sudo fdisl -l
[18:52] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: sudo fdisk -l
[18:52] <conb123> hi i am having trouble with my ubuntu it happens when booting from the live cd and from the hard drive what happens is everything logs in it gets on to the desktop i then get about 30 seconds to 5 mins worth of use out of it then everything just locks up
[18:52] <Cann0n> conb123, dont boot live. install it.
[18:53] <AmirCyber> Salam :D
[18:53] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s:  Right, Now I i mount it, how would I rebuild the kernel
[18:53] <conb123> i have a foxconn 945g7ma-8ks2h mobo and an ati raedon x1950 pro 256mb grpahics card
[18:53] <conb123> ive installed it
[18:53] <geirha> killme: some hardware don't work well with suspend I'm afraid. Does hibernate work? you can change the settings in system -> preferences -> power management. Change it to hibernate or turn off when battery is low, and to just blank the screen when idle for example
[18:53] <Cann0n> conb123, so it just locks up?
[18:53] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: i can't help you with that, im not experienced with kernels.. but you might want to reinstall it
[18:53] <conb123> i was just saying it happens when booting from hdd and from live disxc
[18:53] <conb123> ^disc
[18:53] <ItchyHobo> !emule
[18:53] <ubot3> Factoid emule not found
[18:54] <Cann0n> conb123, did you check the md5 of the .iso before you burned it to a cd?
[18:54] <ItchyHobo> !amule
[18:54] <ubot3> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1315 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[18:54] <conb123> no but i did a netboot install
[18:54] <conb123> so i didn't need to worry about it
[18:54] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s: I'm kind of tired of having to reinstall ubuntu.  It seems to crap out every month.  And all it does is used for by me is surfing the net and running vmserver.
[18:54] <conb123> aka poor mans install lol
[18:54] <geirha> killme: if suspend is a feature you want, you should go to launchpad.net and search for your model, or report a new bug if there's no bug allready. Someone will eventually get it fixed
[18:55] <ItchyHobo> can amule be used anonymously?
[18:55] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s: I would rather not reinstall, there should be a way for me to rebuild the kernel like in gentoo I am hoping
[18:55] <_Oz_> Mikey: ubuntu is "crapping out" on you?  something is definitely not right.  I install ubuntu once and can months without rebooting.
[18:55] <Cann0n> conb123, try downloading the iso and checking the md5. an error could have occurred when you netbooted it
[18:55] <conb123> no i did an install using these files one second
[18:55] <killme> geirha: I don't need that as a feature, I just want to avoid suspending
[18:55] <geirha> !kernel | Mikey
[18:55] <ubot3> Mikey: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[18:56] <Mikey> _Oz_:  I'm not sure if VMserver is just way to unstable on ubuntu.  But I use many different linux distros and ubuntu has just not been playing nice with me
[18:56] <frank_> ItchyHobo: I don't think so. it has traffic shaping protection but that's it
[18:56] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: aas i said, im not experienced with kernels, but i do know that you can install other kernles using apt-get... maybe you can reinstall it. i think it is something like: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kernel-image...
[18:56] <geirha> killme: the the power management settings is what you want to change
[18:56] <conb123> http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[18:56] <_Oz_> Mikey: you're using it in vmware?  I'd try vbox...  I think vbox is far superior.
[18:56] <Gary_inNYC> ever try Virtualbox?
[18:56] <conb123> and ubuntu for dos
[18:56] <sdaugherty> I'm having some trouble with X in 7.10 with an ATI All-in-wonder 9200. I just get a black screen when X starts. My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/mfb0509a and my server log is here: http://rafb.net/p/JKv1IP76.html
[18:56] <conb123> so there was no iso involved
[18:56] <_Oz_> Gary_inNYC has the right idea, Mikey.  VirtualBox.  Do it.
[18:56] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s: I had already thought about that, but I would need to reinstall that kernel in a chroot envireonment
[18:56] <killme> geirha: sorry for the n00b question, but which file is the one I should touch?
[18:56] <Cann0n> conb123, what is your internet service provider?
[18:56] <_Oz_> I use virtualbox.  It is awesome.
[18:57] <ItchyHobo> frank_, so u cant use it via tor; how is privacy on the eD2k networks?
[18:57] <_Oz_> Mikey: recommend you join the channel #vbox
[18:57] <conb123> and also i have various i386 copies of ubuntu and one was actually delivered to me and that does it aswell
[18:57] <conb123> errr bulldog
[18:57] <conb123> why
[18:57] <conb123> ?
[18:57] <eean> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading makes a distinction between Ubuntu desktops and Ubuntu servers. It is a server I want to upgrade... but what is the difference between do-release-upgrade and Update Manager?
[18:57] <Cann0n> is that high speed?
[18:57] <frank_> ItchyHobo: oh yeah maybe you can use tor. I've never used it though
[18:57] <conb123> about 2mb i spose
[18:57] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: i've changed kernel versions by just doing a sudo apt-get install kernel... and it worked fine for me
[18:57] <xphisher> i need help with ati drivers.. i have a laptop with an hd2600, i installed envy all is well, except the video flickers during play back and screensave
[18:58] <xphisher> r
[18:58] <Mikey> _Oz_: I wouldn't  join #vbox quite yet.  FIrst I will have to fix the linux kernel on my ubuntu machine
[18:58] <_Oz_> fix it?
[18:58] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s: on livecd?
[18:58] <_Oz_> what are you doing, modding the thing?
[18:58] <mad_max02> WOAH
[18:58] <Z03> This is the 3rd time I try to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Vostro 1000.. the installation reaches %55 and then gives an I/O error message saying fault CD or CD drive.. did anyone come across the same problem ?
[18:58] <frank_> ItchyHobo: well ed2k has a bunch of fake servers you have to steer clear from.
[18:58] <Mikey> _Oz_:  Yes, I have a kernel panic
[18:58] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: nope... you can have various kernels installed at the same time
[18:58] <_Oz_> Mikey: well if you're modifying the kernel, all bets are off
[18:58] <mad_max02> I just rebooted my computer and flash works flawlessly :D
[18:58] <Mikey> and grub is pointed to the right kernel image
[18:58] <_Oz_> mikey: you're on your own there
[18:58] <dals-> join #debian
[18:58] <Cann0n> I don't know what to say. I don't have problems during installation. I normally download the ISO image, check the md5sum, and make a copy. I've never had a distro fail me like that.
[18:59] <mad_max02> xphisher, dude ATI has problems with video playback and other stuff
[18:59] <geirha> killme: on the top panel, go to System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[18:59] <conb123> me neither until now
[18:59] <ItchyHobo> frank_, c i wanna know if the governement can getya if u download pirated stuff/ is there someway to track ed2k users?
[18:59] <francesco> Hello, guys. I have a problem. I can't open any IMA ADPCM file. What can I do to solve it?
[18:59] <Mikey> _Oz_:  what I would really like to do is just get a working kernel and switch it with my current kernel\
[18:59] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: for example, when there was a kernel update, and i didn't use synaptic to upodate it, i just install it by using apt-get and then, it automatically added a new entry for that kernel on grub
[18:59] <conb123> everything works perfectly in xp
[18:59] <francesco>  Hello, guys. I have a problem. I can't open any IMA ADPCM file. What can I do to solve it?
[19:00] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s:  Unfortunately ZI can't at all get into ubuntu in command line.  ALl I can use is the livecd
[19:00] <stormzen> I need a user friendly back up files to DVD type of tool.  ( May be duplicating up to 30 Gigs of data, so it would be nice if it could span disks. )  Anyone know of anything?
[19:00] <Cann0n> don't know what to say. are you dual booting?
[19:00] <mad_max02> !repeat | francesco
[19:00] <ubot3> francesco: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:00] <conb123> i have suspicions that my hard drive may have gone bad though
[19:00] <Mikey> _Oz_:  I know on Gentoo, when I make changes to my system I use chroot
[19:00] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: yeah try using livecd
[19:00] <mad_max02> conb123, well dude if you have hardware problems that has nothing to do with system :)
[19:00] <Cann0n> conb123, prefer a hard disk check
[19:01] <frank_> ItchyHobo: well if you download a file you can see the IPs of everyone else who has it. but then again it's the same with bittorrent and the others
[19:01] <conb123> i did do one there was nothing so my suspicions are probably wrong
[19:01] <^4nDr3s> !kernel
[19:01] <ubot3> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[19:01] <Mikey> ^4nDr3s: Well If it installs a kernel on the livecd somewhere, I will move it on to my root partition for my ubuntu system, and make sure grub is pointing to it
[19:01] <Cann0n> it might just be an error during installing file copying
[19:01] <^4nDr3s> Mikey: try here, it may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[19:01] <conb123> no it does it when booting from the hard drive as well
[19:02] <Cann0n> thats what i mean.
[19:02] <Jeriath> anyone know what the difference between firefox 3 and firefox 2008 is?
[19:02] <ItchyHobo> frank_, i think i'll feed my amule some tor onions to see if it still works...
[19:02] <conb123> oh so it would be copying bad files
[19:02] <conb123> kind of
[19:02] <dgjones> !piracy | ItchyHobo
[19:02] <ubot3> ItchyHobo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[19:02] <Cann0n> Jeriath, the versions and features. check the firefox website for new features
[19:02] <conb123> but i installed it in ubuntu for dos using the intrid.gz and linux. files
[19:02] <Cann0n> conb123, thats the only thing i can think of.
[19:03] <ItchyHobo> sorry ppl
[19:03] <conb123> so it wouldn't be an iso problem
[19:03] <conb123> would it
[19:03] <francesco>  Hello, guys. I have a problem. I can't open any IMA ADPCM file. What can I do to solve it?
[19:03] <mneptok> Jeriath: Firefox 2008 is not official, and probably a spyware/adware vector
[19:03] <Alaerus> can somebody help me.. I cannon switch on my Intel wireless pro 3945ABG adapter on :((( the button doesn't work
[19:03] <Jeriath> alright
[19:03] <Jeriath> thanks
[19:03] <Cann0n> conb123, it might be. i do things the old fashioned way, so its hard to tell.
[19:03] <Jeriath> ill stick with the beta then
[19:03] <killme> geirha: thanks, I changed "sleep time" to never, I hope it will be the solution
[19:03] <Mikey> _Oz_: That's not eaxctly what I want to do
[19:04] <ItchyHobo> Firefox 2008 sounds like it is from microsoft; me, i never heard of it
[19:04] <conb123> i would have just installed from the cd but it kept freezing so i did a poor mans install
[19:04] <conb123> anyway ill be back soon bye
[19:04] <Mikey> _Oz_: What I am wanting to do is just update the kernel from livecd.  (Was thinking about how I should say what I want)
[19:04] <Alaerus> somebody?
[19:05] <_Oz_> mikey: I've not had to do that, maybe jack_sparrow could help with that
[19:05] <sfears> alaerus... what kind of computer do you have
[19:06] <Alaerus> laptop fujitsu-siemens v3505
[19:06] <ItchyHobo> !o4o
[19:06] <ubot3> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[19:06] <Mikey> Well, We will see I guess.  Jack_Sparrow Do you know how to update a kernel from the livecd
[19:06] <geirha> killme: that should work :)
[19:07] <sfears> Alaerus, you have a special button to turn the wireless on?
[19:07] <Alaerus> sfears, yes but it does not responds :)
[19:08] <Cann0n> Alaerus, you need ndiswrapper and the drivers
[19:08] <sfears> you may have to recompile a driver for it.. i had the same issue with my laptop
[19:08] <Z03> This is the 3rd time I try to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Vostro 1000.. the installation reaches %55 and then gives an I/O error message saying fault CD or CD drive.. did anyone come across the same problem ?
[19:08] <Cann0n> Alaerus, do you have an install dvd for drivers and applications that might have came with your laptop?
[19:08] <Alaerus> it shows me the drivers in the Restricted drivers
[19:08] <Cann0n> Z03, did you check the md5sum?
[19:09] <ItchyHobo> Z03, did u check the md5?
[19:09] <Alaerus> and I had it working when I shutted down my Windows with wireless on
[19:09] <seisen> which card is it Alaerus?
[19:09] <Cann0n> Alaerus, and it doesnt respond right?
[19:09] <Alaerus> Intel Wireless Pro 3945ABG
[19:09] <sfears> Alaerus, lspci & paste the line that has to do with your wireless
[19:09] <seisen> it should just work mine does
[19:09] <chocolatewithmin> does anybody know how to get olivetti artjet 12 printer workin, cups don't have it in database, and i don't know where to fin .ppd file?
[19:10] <thehumanerror> have you tried http://www.linuxprinting.com or something?
[19:10] <thehumanerror> .org, sorry
[19:10] <Jeriath> ooo....firefox 3 beta 4 is out
[19:10] <sfears> Alaerus might have special buttons on his keyboard to enable/disable wireless for security purposes.. these are not standard buttons and therefore need special drivers to function.
[19:10] <RiverrunFree> hi
[19:10] <dmacnutt> oooo Jeriath does it flush for you too?
[19:11] <Cann0n> Alaerus, is it a laptop?
[19:11] <Alaerus> yes
[19:11] <Alaerus> and I have buttons for enabling and disable the adapter
[19:11] <Alaerus> but they do not respond!
[19:11] <sfears> Alaerus, lspci
[19:11] <Cann0n> i know, mine did the same
[19:11]  * dfgas how do i scan a ntfs partition for errors in linux?
[19:11] <genii> The Inspiron and Aspire models for instance have these switches which disable/enable wireless
[19:12] <dmacnutt> kernel compile!
[19:12] <glenn> good evening
[19:12] <sfears> nevermind.. that's not what i need
[19:12] <seisen> what does iwconfig  say Alaerus
[19:12] <Alaerus> you should know that I am a complete newbe, so be gentle with your answers :D
[19:12] <conb123> ok so im back
[19:13] <Alaerus> lo        no wireless extensions.
[19:13] <Alaerus> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[19:13] <Cann0n> seisen, he needs to install ndiswrapper and his network card drivers
[19:13] <glenn> I was wondering if anybody has any wolfET ubuntu experience, I start mine up but I do not get any video, just sound, restricted driver installed and I get 1000FPS on glxgears which i believe is acceptable for my onboard device
[19:13] <sfears> Alaerus, in a terminal type lspci & paste the line associated with your wireless card
[19:13] <chocolatewithmin> thehumanerror: i don't know where i should go on the page
[19:13] <conb123> have there ever been any problems reported with the foxconn 945g7ma and ubuntu
[19:14] <conb123> my motherboard could that be causing the problem
[19:14] <Alaerus> 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[19:14] <Cann0n> conb123, google that
[19:14] <lunaphyte_> i've tried to updated a server from 6.1 to 7.0.4 following the guidelines here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades.  my computer doesn't boot now, and complains about lvm problems then drops me to a busy box shell: http://i27.tinypic.com/155hzq8.jpg
[19:14] <Cann0n> conb123, i doubt it... you can install linux on an ipod.
[19:14] <lunaphyte_> what can i do at that initramfs prompt?
[19:14] <chocolatewithmin> does anybody know how to get working oliveti artjet 12 printer???
[19:14] <conb123> yer true
[19:15] <Alaerus> so, now what?
[19:15] <conb123> it is pretty flexible
[19:15] <conb123> could it be my cpu i have am pentinum d do i need a special version for that
[19:15] <Gary_inNYC> who here has a typical multi-button mouse with nav for/back buttons and has managed not to use imwheel?
[19:16] <geirha> lunaphyte_: does it boot with the previous kernel?
[19:16] <lunaphyte_> geirha: how can i check?
[19:16] <conb123> sorry im probably asking stupid questions here
[19:16] <dmacnutt> lunaphyte_: grub menu
[19:16] <conb123> but im just trying to work out what it is
[19:16] <lunaphyte_> oh, right.  let me check.
[19:16] <Alaerus> hey ppl, tell me what to do :)
[19:16] <Freakingme> This is a screenshot of an ubuntu install. I want a taskbar similar to this one, how do I get it? http://www.thinkgos.com/images/main_rocket_splash.png
[19:17] <Cann0n> conb123, i suggest reinstalling it
[19:17] <ItchyHobo> is there a way i can get tree view when i am using my windows network?
[19:17] <geirha> lunaphyte_: the grub menu should list the previous kernel for you to choose
[19:17] <conb123> google reocketdock freakingme
[19:17] <Cann0n> Alaerus, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2639
[19:17] <Freakingme> ty conb123
[19:17] <conb123> is that linux compatible
[19:17] <Gary_inNYC> rocketdock is good for windows, try awn for ubuntu
[19:18] <conb123> oh it looked like rocketdockl
[19:18] <sdaugherty> Hmm... Did my X question get lost in the scroll?
[19:18] <manuel_> has someone the kernel .config file Ubuntu uses to compile?
[19:18] <Cann0n> sdaugherty, yes
[19:19] <conb123> but what with any ubuntu cd i boot freezes after like 2 minuites
[19:19] <sdaugherty> > I'm having some trouble with X in 7.10 with an ATI All-in-wonder 9200. I just get a black screen when X starts. My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/mfb0509a and my server log is here: http://rafb.net/p/JKv1IP76.html
[19:20] <Cann0n> conb123, i don't know what professional advice to give you. I'd just redownload the .iso, check the md5 sum and burn the image on a new cd. start fresh and clean
[19:20] <sdaugherty> I've searched google, there are several bugs with similar issues, but they appear to be for different chipsets.
[19:20] <conb123> cannon could it be my graphics card i have an ati raedon x1950 pro 256mb i used envy to install the drivers any problems ever been reported with that
[19:21] <lunaphyte_> hmm, does 7.0.4 use the 2.6.17 kernel?  i don't have multiple kernel versions in my grub menu, and 2.6.17 is what's listed.
[19:21] <genii> sdaugherty: Change line 65 to read radeon instead of ati
[19:21] <sdaugherty> fwiw, I'm pretty sure it was working in 7.04
[19:21] <sdaugherty> genii: ok.
[19:21] <Mikey> Does anyone know how to rebuil your initrd image
[19:22] <amortvigil> how to change the gnome menu style? like an other shape and other icons
[19:22] <Cann0n> conb123, could be. but then again, i've been lucky and never had any problems with ubuntu i couldnt fix. the only time i've had a graphic card problem was back in the slackware 8.1 days on a HP Pavilion
[19:22] <sdaugherty> genii: thanks, I'll give that a try, brb hopefully
[19:24] <Mikey> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[19:24] <Mikey> bash: mkinitrd: command not found
[19:24] <conb123> damn this sucks i really want ubuntu
[19:24] <Asad2005> how to disable privileged user warning when login as root GUI
[19:24] <conb123> ill keep googling
[19:24] <conb123> thanks for all your help
[19:24] <amenado> Mikey-> if you run upgrade-grub  it will run the mkinitrd to  recreate the initrd file
[19:25] <Mikey> amenado: Will this work form the live cd?
[19:25] <Cann0n> conb123, i suggest not booting ubuntu live. it varies on performance depending on your specs. if you are going to boot a live cd, i suggest it running a watered down wm such as fluxbox or blackbox, etc.
[19:25] <amenado> Mikey I believe it does, you may have to chroot  to /  not sure..
[19:25] <ItchyHobo> conb123, most probably u have a faulty download
[19:26] <Cann0n> conb123, by freeze, do you mean u see a tan screen for a while?
[19:26] <Mikey> amenado: Thats my problem I can't figure out how to get chroot to work on ubuntu
[19:26] <Mikey> amenado: I know how to do it on gentoo linux
[19:26] <erUSUL> lunaphyte_: 7.04 used 2.6.20 iirc
[19:27] <amenado> Mikey-> are you booted not on livecd ?
[19:27] <geirha> Mikey, amenado: I vbelieve upgrade-grub should be update-grub
[19:27] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: how can i start to determine what happened when i upgraded?
[19:27] <ZummiG777> Question: If I am a Ubuntu user looking at a new laptop, should I choose the 64 bit processor or stick with 32 bits?  What is the 64bit compatibility for Ubuntu and are there really issues?
[19:27] <puplin> Mikey: i wasn't here to hear the original problem, but in my experience, most grub fixes work without chrooting (on the ubuntu live cd)
[19:27] <conb123> no everything just freezes completely after about 30 seconds to 5 minuites of use
[19:27] <erUSUL> Mikey: sudo update-initramfs ?
[19:27] <amenado> geirha-> thanks for correcting me, words are so close that i cant remember the exact ones
[19:27] <chocolatewithmin> does anybody know how to install olivetti artjet 12???
[19:27] <erUSUL> lunaphyte_: make sure you have linux-image instaled
[19:27] <Brandon_> hmm odd. Every new session I open I see "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." so I have to type "exec ssh-agent bash" every time. Could someone explain why this happens?
[19:27] <scuderia> hi, how do i can get over the keyring screen everytime i turn on wireless? in my old ubuntu 6.10 i added a line to pam.d but now it dont work
[19:28] <Brandon_> I mean when I try to use ssh-add -l
[19:28] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: i can't boot now.
[19:28] <lunaphyte_> i've tried to updated a server from 6.1 to 7.0.4 following the guidelines here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades.  my computer doesn't boot now, and complains about lvm problems then drops me to a busy box shell: http://i27.tinypic.com/155hzq8.jpg
[19:28] <Mikey> geirha puplin erUSUL: Thank you I shall try them
[19:28] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: ^^
[19:29] <puplin> chocolatewithmin: have you tried to install it with the new printer wizard?
[19:29] <Mikey> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  sudo update-grub
[19:29] <Mikey> Searching for GRUB installation directory ...
[19:29] <Mikey> No GRUB directory found. To create a template run 'mkdir /boot/grub' first. To install grub, install it manually or try the 'grub-install' command. ### Warning, grub-install is used to change your MBR. ###
[19:29] <erUSUL> lunaphyte_: may i ask why?
[19:29] <Mikey> geirha puplin erUSUL amenado: I bleieve I will ahve to chroort
[19:29] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: why upgrade, you mean?
[19:30] <Linux_Fresher> :)  back !! 1 hour successfully completed as a new user of ubuntu :)
[19:30] <NoFX_SBC> hi all!
[19:30] <erUSUL> lunaphyte_: why can't you boot?
[19:30] <noam_> heh :) welcome Linux_Fresher
[19:30] <legend2440> chocolatewithmin: i assume you have tried the drivers for other models to see if they work right?
[19:30] <amenado> Mikey you dont have a good initrd on the drive?
[19:30] <erUSUL> |yay | Linux_Fresher
[19:30] <NoFX_SBC> i installed a ubuntu server 7.10 but its generate errors:
[19:30] <erUSUL> !yay | Linux_Fresher
[19:30] <ubot3> Linux_Fresher: Glad you made it! :-)
[19:30] <karlrhs> I have a script but I do not know how to tell it what directory to save the files can anyone help me.
[19:30] <NoFX_SBC> i paste the error here: http://pastebin.com/d4d6f8109
[19:30] <scuderia> on 6.10 i added "@include common-pamkeyring" to /etc/pam.d/gdm
[19:31] <NoFX_SBC> someone have idea about that?! thanks in advance!
[19:31] <Linux_Fresher> :)  .. yup.. i know its too early but i donated 50$s to ubuntu
[19:31] <Mikey> amenado: I do not believe so.  I get ramdisk erros
[19:31] <Mikey> then  kernel panic followed by it
[19:31] <Linux_Fresher> just for the looks ^^
[19:31] <jack> hi
[19:31] <chocolatewithmin> legend2440: yes, i have tried it, but printer does not respond
[19:31] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: the computer physically boots, but it won't load ubuntu.  i'm not sure why, that's what i'm hoping to get help on.  i followed those guidelines for upgrading and was left with a machine that won't boot.
[19:31] <amenado> Mikey you have mounted the correct partition where /boot/grub normally resides?
[19:32] <geirha> karlrhs: I don't understand your question, could you try to elaborate?
[19:32] <Mikey> I have mounted my root partition to /mnt/ubuntu
[19:32] <genii> sdaugherty: Have graphics now?
[19:32] <sdaugherty> genii: No difference. Screen's still black. It seems to be starting properly, just nothing on the screen.
[19:32] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: flaky hardware (drive; cable; power cable) attached to ata3 sata port or maybe a kernel bug
[19:32] <erUSUL> lunaphyte_: not even in recovery mode ??
[19:32] <Linux_Fresher> Q:  i have games installed in windows .. can i directly start them through wine or do i have to re-install them through wine ?
[19:33] <erUSUL> Linux_Fresher: the later
[19:33] <amenado> Mikey then you can  without chrooting    grub-install --root-directory=/boot  /dev/sdax  where x is the partition where you know /boot should reside
[19:33] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: it depends
[19:33] <puplin> how big they are, etc.
[19:33] <frank_> Linux_Fresher: most you would have to reinstall. WoW work directly though
[19:33] <sdaugherty> genii: nope still a black screen.
[19:33] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: some games will work, some games you'll have to install in wine
[19:33] <genii> sdaugherty: Might be different bus than specified in the xorg.conf. What does lspci |grep VGA              say?
[19:33] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL probably a kernel bug because i switch the drive, cable and power cable... motherborad
[19:33] <karlrhs> here is the script I want to know how to tell it what directory to save the output files to "transcode -i /dev/dvd1 -x null,dvd -U /home/karl/Desktop -N 0×1 -T 1,-1 -a 0 -y wav"   Thank you so much.
[19:33] <puplin> small puzzle games, etc. will work without reinstalling
[19:33] <Mikey> amenado: I'm chroot on /mnt/ubuntu right now
[19:33] <Mikey> I will try the update first
[19:33] <Mikey> am
[19:33] <Mikey> amend
[19:33] <DotA> whats the next ubuntu gonna be called
[19:34] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL i switch all hardware to a new core2duo.... and the problem is same
[19:34] <erUSUL> !hardy | DotA
[19:34] <ubot3> DotA: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:34] <warlink> can someone please help me.. I have just installed ubuntu on my desktop.. and i says that "no network device have been faund", what to do..??
[19:34] <Linux_Fresher> okies, i think for wine related Qs, i will try  #wine
[19:34] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: most blizzard game work without reinstalling (blizzard are good at making games work with wine :))
[19:34] <lunaphyte_> erUSUL: just trying that now.
[19:34] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: have you tried a different kernel?
[19:34] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  kewl
[19:34] <DotA> thanx
[19:35] <sdaugherty> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
[19:35] <sdaugherty> 02:07.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]
[19:35] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL howto i get another kernel?
[19:35] <geirha> sdaugherty: does the liveCD work?
[19:35] <sdaugherty> 01:00.0 is the one I intend to use.
[19:35] <sdaugherty> livecd does the same thing unless it's started in safe graphics mode.
[19:35] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL and... i have a server with ubuntu 7.10 desktop... and not apresent that problem
[19:35] <shyboy> hi!
[19:35] <sdaugherty> I'll worry about 02:07.0 once the first one's working.
[19:36] <shyboy> i ve got a problem with resolution of my desktop
[19:36] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: for gutsy probably the best option is to dwonload the deb of the hardy kernel from packages.ubuntu.com and install it (if possible never tried i build my own kernels)
[19:36] <shyboy> how install drivers to nvidia 8800 gt?
[19:36] <shyboy> ?
[19:36] <puplin> shyboy: they should show up in the restricted drivers manager
[19:36] <sdaugherty> it works correctly with the vesa drivers, obviously that's not a route I want to go though :)
[19:36] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL u recommend a older version of kernel?
[19:37] <shyboy> i ve nothing to my graphic card
[19:37] <puplin> shyboy: ?
[19:37] <geirha> sdaugherty: I would try installing the proprietary ati-driver. xorg-driver-fglrx, just to see if that works at least
[19:37] <shyboy> in the system manager to nvidia 8800
[19:37] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: you can try with the edgy kernel too
[19:37] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL ok
[19:37] <karlrhs> May anyone help with a simple script please.
[19:37] <sdaugherty> Tried it. The propritary driver won't even start.
[19:37] <puplin> shyboy: go to system --> Administration --> screens and graphics
[19:38] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL its probably a kernel bug alright?
[19:38] <deviank> are there any better progs to use to run virtual machines under ubuntu other than VMware server?
[19:38] <oyi> .
[19:38] <steveo_> I wish I had not installed hardy, help on going back to gutsy !
[19:38] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: i can not know for sure may be bad hardware too as i said but you said you changed all hardware so...
[19:38] <sdaugherty> "no devices detected"
[19:38] <tritium> steveo_: reinstall
[19:38] <puplin> deviank: virtualbox
[19:39] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: the only way to know for sure is to try another kernel
[19:39] <sdaugherty> IIRC the fglrx drivers removed support for older cards a while back
[19:39] <deviank> puplin,  is it better you reckon?
[19:39] <steveo_> uggg...if I reinstall do I lose everything I had installed ?
[19:39] <Zen_> Edgy works great, I just installed Nvidia drivers with it (8400GS)
[19:39] <Mikey> amenado: Chroot is what I wanted, I didn't know it was as easy as typing chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[19:39] <puplin> deviank: depends what you want to install on it
[19:39] <amenado> Mikey-> as easy as that
[19:39] <seisen> you mean envy Zen_ ?
[19:39] <deviank> puplin,  xp
[19:39] <puplin> ok
[19:39] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL ok, thanks!
[19:39] <Zen_> oops
[19:39] <puplin> yeah it should be good
[19:39] <Mikey> amenado: It's allot harder on gentoo :P
[19:39] <genii> sdaugherty: Yeah 1.0.0 is right then
[19:39] <Zen_> that it
[19:39] <gavi> folks whats the difference between compiz and compiz-fusion?
[19:39] <seisen> np
[19:40] <steveo_> uggg...if I reinstall gutsy to get rid of hardy do I lose everything I had installed ?
[19:40] <DigitalNinja> How do I get php5 Mime Magic Support in Dapper?
[19:40] <geirha> sdaugherty: hm, I did a search, and your chipset should be fully supported by the open source driver ... perhaps it is the monitor settings that is the problem
[19:40] <Mikey> amenado: maybe youi can help me some more, I know on gentoo, to update your whole system, it's "emerge -uDNav world" on the portage system.  What is it for apt-get
[19:40] <genii> geirha: I'm thinking so too, especially as only 2 resolutions in there
[19:40] <karlrhs> May anyone have the time to help me with a simple script please?
[19:40] <Brandon_> jerbear, are you there? I thought I had it working, but it's still asking me for the passphrase when I open a new session. The passphrase is the same as the server's password that is initiating the ssh communication. Am I supposed to use that libpam-ssh now?
[19:40] <erUSUL> !anyone | karlrhs
[19:40] <ubot3> karlrhs: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:41] <amenado> Mikey-> apt-get upgrade
[19:41] <gavi> folks whats the difference between compiz and compiz-fusion?
[19:41] <deviank> puplin, i'll give it a shot if vmware stays a resource hog like it is now just installing xp D:
[19:41] <zcat[1]> Is there a way to extend the ppp negotiation time in ubuntu? This modem takes longer than usual to connect, leaving not enough time to negotiate ppp .. "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
[19:41] <puplin> deviank: yeah i found that virtualbox uses less resources
[19:41] <erUSUL> gavi: compiz-fusion is newer version result of the "fusion-merge" with beryl
[19:41] <puplin> deviank: it's open source, too, so that's an added benefit
[19:42] <Linux_Fresher> !medibuntu | Linux_Fresher
[19:42] <gavi> erUSUL, so if i wanted to make my pc all fancy pants i would look at compiz-fusion?
[19:42] <geirha> sdaugherty: the VertRefresh and HorizSync settings, did you input those? If you search for specs and your monitor's model, you should find those values. They really need to be correct
[19:42] <Mikey> amenado: That didn't work, I mean is there a way to reinstall all the packages?
[19:42] <kumarphilly> geez i have 143 updates today
[19:42] <kumarphilly> lile 82 yesterday
[19:42] <Mikey> amenado: through upgrade
[19:42] <deviank> puplin, sweet. /crossfingers it can magicly support already created virtual box made in vmware :P
[19:42] <kumarphilly> wrong channel
[19:42] <kumarphilly> lol
[19:42] <deviank> dont really want to install again lol
[19:42] <steveo_> hardy with a  broadcom wireless ?  I have to run FWcutter on every reboot !
[19:43] <puplin> gavi: with apt/aptitude, it automatically selects compiz-fusion instead of compiz
[19:43] <sdaugherty> checked them, they are within the monitor's supported range
[19:43] <gavi> puplin, is it easy to install? apt-get install compiz-fusion?
[19:43] <puplin> yes
[19:43] <geirha> genii: well, 1024x768 should work on any monitor bought in this millenium I should think
[19:43] <sdaugherty> I just pulled a previously working xorg.conf from backups, and it's not working
[19:44] <karlrhs> Does anyone/anybody know how to take this script and tell it what directory to send the output files to "transcode -i /dev/dvd1 -x null,dvd -U file -N 0×1 -T 1,-1 -a 0 -y wav"  thank you so very much.
[19:44] <puplin> if you're using gnome, make sure it also gets compiz-gnome
[19:44] <booxter> hello! where can I talk to bug-wranglers?
[19:44] <Alaerus> I don't hear sound and when I click on the volume control it says "No volume control GStreamer and/or devices found"
[19:45] <Barko> Can anyone help with mounting an NFS server?
[19:45] <Alaerus> what should I do
[19:45] <amenado> Mikey-> you wanted to upgrade to a new release?
[19:45] <booxter> I have some bugs that are waiting for quick fixes for a year already. Where can I complain?
[19:45] <DigitalNinja> How do I get php5 Mime Magic Support in Dapper?
[19:45] <puplin> gavi: if you need help with compiz-fusion, you can go to #compiz-fusion
[19:46] <Mikey> amenado: no rebuild the packages
[19:46] <gavi> thanks puplin
[19:46] <Barko> Help with mounting an NFS server?
[19:46] <Mikey> amenado: Reinstall
[19:47] <Linux_Fresher> how to get a weblink from bot ? i tried !fontforge coz #wine said i need that in general, i whispered the bot about it .. but it wont gimme a weblink !!
[19:47] <Cann0n> does ubuntu have stock?
[19:47] <genii> geirha: According to http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/m990/En/spec/spec.htm   this monitor will do 1024x768 at 75 or 85 refresh but no other refresh rates listed for this resolution
[19:47] <amenado> Mikey try update then upgrade
[19:47] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: sudo apt-get install fontforge?
[19:48] <geirha> karlrhs: adding ' -o "$1/output.avi" ' to the end of that line, and running the script with ' ./the_script /tmp/foo ' should save the output as /tmp/foo/output.avi
[19:48] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  okies, i have blind faith on this channel, so if u say its ok to say that in terminal, i will do so
[19:48] <Mikey> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[19:48] <Mikey> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[19:48] <puplin> yeah
[19:48] <phuzion> hey, the tops of my windows disappeared, I think something crashed, what do I have to restart to get it back?  I'm using gnome btw
[19:48] <ks3> Barko: what's the problem?
[19:48] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  it asks for a password
[19:49] <puplin> "sudo apt-get install <package name>" will install the package if it's in the ubuntu repos
[19:49] <DigitalNinja> How do I get mime support in Dapper?
[19:49] <psycholvlan> phuzion try metacity --replace
[19:49] <booxter> Where can I talk to bug-wranglers? I have some bugs that are waiting for quick fixes for a year already. Where can I complain?
[19:49] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: put in your user password
[19:49] <DigitalNinja> php5 mime support
[19:49] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  but .. how to decide if its not a virus / spyware ?
[19:49] <geirha> genii: that seems to be the correct specs indeed, and the horizsync and vertrefresh values are correct, so that configuration should work ...
[19:49] <gavi> folks whats the most efficent way to clean my computer from unnecessary things installed from the default install.
[19:49] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  i have burnt my fingers bad on windows with those things
[19:49] <Barko> ks3, I had it up and working yesterday but then my network went down and now there's no route to host.
[19:49] <puplin> !apt | Linux_Fresher
[19:49] <ubot3> Linux_Fresher: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:50] <puplin> there are not really spywares/viruses in linux
[19:50] <puplin> especially in the repos
[19:50] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  okies .. i trust you  ..  [ i guess ]
[19:50] <puplin> you just trust it :)
[19:50] <ks3> Barko: no route to host? that may not be nfs related... are you able to ping the host?
[19:50] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: lol
[19:50] <geirha> sdaugherty: do you have any other monitors you can test with? just to rule out whether it is a problem with the monitor or not
[19:50] <sharkos> DigitalNinja: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122057 re: mime magic
[19:51] <sdaugherty> I let dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg taxe the values from DPMS, so they should be correct.
[19:51] <bardyr> how can i get dd to write to the end of the file?
[19:51] <Barko> ks3, I just found my problem. The IP changed from .106 to .102 for some reason.
[19:51] <pixael> linux_fresher: dont worry too much about viruses but dont use pirated versions of things like crossover office
[19:51] <Cann0n> puplin, thats because linux is better than windows. :P
[19:51] <Barko> Is there anyway to have it adapt or no?
[19:51] <Carlos1308> hola alguien habla español?
[19:51] <amortvigil> help i cant add the "system hardware" modules to my gnome menu panel i get strange stripes
[19:51] <ItchyHobo> well on linux viruses are very very rare but they are some
[19:51] <puplin> Cann0n: of course!
[19:51] <sdaugherty> I have other monitors, this one is working if I set the driver to vesa though.
[19:51] <DigitalNinja> sharkos: Thanks
[19:51] <sdaugherty> so I don't think it's the monitor.
[19:51] <Jahromeo> my freaking windows box keeps bsoding me during arb things like firefox/skype but my ubuntu partition doesnt with same hardware, thats a first :P
[19:51] <ks3> Barko: Only if you can refer to it by hostname. Do you have an internal DNS server?
[19:51] <myth-newb> I just swapped my ide dvd rom for a sata dvd rom and now i can play dvd's it says missing plug ins
[19:51] <ItchyHobo> realistically & practically speaking linux is virus free
[19:51] <Carlos1308> queria saber varias cosas antes de instalar ubuntu
[19:52] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  erm !! there is some open office thing that came with this live cd .. i did install the live cd to hard drive though .. so now i am kinda screwed already ? =/
[19:52] <Barko> ks3, I'm not sure. I'm only mounting a directory from another computer.
[19:52] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: ?
[19:52] <puplin> what's the problem?
[19:52] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, ive seen two viruses in 8 yeas of linux useage.... and they where just scripts you had to run. you know, like a batch file for windows... and the only reason i found then was because i was interested and went looking for then...
[19:52] <bicz> pixael: what can be happenz whit thoose stuffs
[19:52] <ks3> Barko: Probably not then. If you control the DHCP server, you could create a reservation for you NFS server so it always gets the same IP address.
[19:52] <sharkos> Carlos1308: #ubuntu-es
[19:52] <bicz> pixael: like crossover :)
[19:53] <Carlos1308> sorry thanks
[19:53] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: open office is the open source office suite that comes with ubuntu. crossover office is a proprietary program that allows you to run microsoft office in ubuntu. Open Office is GOOD ;)
[19:53] <sdaugherty> maybe it is though, I'll lug the other one over here to test.
[19:53] <Barko> ks3, Okay, I'll try working on the hostname then.
[19:53] <ItchyHobo> Cann0n, can a virus be really made to take down a linux system, or linux is just too robust?
[19:53] <booxter> geirha, it's not good at least at startup...
[19:53] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  .. i dont know what u r taking about .. u said something about cross over linux .. i am turning to linux coz i am pi$$ed at windowz and its viruses .. now i installed linux and it automatically installed some open office thing with it .. so is that the cross over thing u r saying
[19:53] <pixael> bicz: any pirated versions of commercial software can contain backdoors
[19:54] <puplin> no
[19:54] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  aaah !!  okies ..thanks for that one .. so i am safe till now i guess :)
[19:54] <Odd-rationale> ItchyHobo: If you're running as root, yes. Other wise it can only damage you home directory.
[19:54] <pixael> its just a rule of thumb, pirated software has to pay its bills somewhere
[19:54] <puplin> openoffice is the open source office suite for linux, windows, etc.
[19:54] <bardyr> pixael, any commercial software can have backdoors
[19:54] <sharkos> Linux_Fresher: no, Open Office is the good one; it's free but can handle Office files etc. etc.
[19:54] <puplin> way better than M$ office
[19:54] <platinumblack> lunaphyte does this match with your problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256
[19:54] <ubot3> Malone bug 67256 in initramfs-tools "Failure to mount root filesystem, cause unknown" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:54] <pixael> bardyr: yeah for sure but pirated stuff is likely to have a bit of Russian Business Network action ;)
[19:54] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, the two i've seen were just... delete commands that crippled linux kernels, bin directories, etc. you'd have to be digging somewhere you really shouldnt be to get one.
[19:55] <bicz> Odd-rationale: or takes some data? maybe?
[19:55] <Barko> ks3, I tried to unmount using the hostname but it won't work.
[19:55] <puplin> !openoffice | Linux_Fresher
[19:55] <ubot3> Linux_Fresher: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[19:55] <sharkos> ItchyHobo: only with user stupidity can anything bad happen with Linux ^^
[19:55] <ItchyHobo> Odd-rationale, did u have any virus attack that damages ur personal files, cuz i have been kinda preaching the virtues of linux at my office and they decided to keep email and file backups on linux systems
[19:56] <geirha> booxter: what do you mean?
[19:56] <ItchyHobo> specifically ubuntu
[19:56] <bardyr> pixael, depends on where and how you get the pirated software, most pirated software have never even been in Russia
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> ItchyHobo: Not that I know of.
[19:56] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, you dont have to worry about viruses... more people die of ants a year than users get linux viruses
[19:56] <genii> sdaugherty: Please do: sudo apt-get install read-edid   then put into pastebin results of command:  sudo get-edid|parse-edid
[19:57] <booxter> geirha, I mean OpenOffice is as "quick" as my great-grandma
[19:57] <ItchyHobo> constant virus attacks played havoc with windows users and last time we lost some really important files
[19:57] <Odd-rationale> bicz: True. Spyware can effects any interent user.
[19:57] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  so crossover office is some kind of addon to open office ? to may be look more like actually m$ office ?
[19:57] <ItchyHobo> :)
[19:57] <psycholvlan> fire ants can kill me :\
[19:57] <ks3> Barko: Then you'll have to go by IP address. You could possibly setup a local DNS server, but it probably wouldn't be worth the effort unless this happens regularly.
[19:57] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: no
[19:57] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, you can't port a windows virus to linux like that
[19:57] <Linux_Fresher> puplin: >.<
[19:57] <bardyr> Linux_Fresher, crossover office is a commercial wine edition
[19:57] <Barko> ks3, the router craps out every few weeks at random
[19:57] <puplin> crossover office is a tool that lets you run M$ office in linux
[19:57] <puplin> (and itunes, etc., etc.)
[19:57] <Linux_Fresher> bardyr:  ooh !! ok .. nice explaination !! i get it now :)
[19:57] <ItchyHobo> Cann0n, can wine read windows viruses
[19:57] <ItchyHobo> ?
[19:57] <mihaii> doomsday this is the end of the world 14 mar super movie
[19:58] <ks3> Barko: what kind of router is it?
[19:58] <schemacs> Windows == viruses, and spyware. Why one might ask. Well, mabye companies like Trendmicro make money on it and it allows microsoft to spread FUD.
[19:58] <Barko> ks3, linksys
[19:58] <bicz> Odd-rationale: now i got a problem :)
[19:58] <LordOfThePigs> !suspend
[19:58] <ubot3> Factoid suspend not found
[19:58] <geirha> booxter: ah, I might have to agree there, though I don't know your great-grandma, I assume she's slow. But it's good in the sense that it's open source :)
[19:58] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, good question. i was thinking testing that, but this system doenst have and emulators. i dual boot
[19:58] <schemacs> People are afraid of using their computers unless they buy more software.
[19:58] <Linux_Fresher> lol linux is not at all as easy at it seems in first 1 hour !! xD  .. espeically for a guy who has been on windoz for eons !!
[19:58] <LordOfThePigs> !hibernate
[19:58] <ubot3> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.96~pre-svn.r1125-1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 432 kB
[19:58] <Odd-rationale> bicz: Hope it is not a virus... :)
[19:58] <ks3> Barko: if it'll run dd-wrt, you may want to look at that. http://www.dd-wrt.com
[19:58] <pixael> bardyr it was a joke
[19:58] <bicz> Odd-rationale: eheh tnx
[19:58] <booxter> geirha, opensource great-grandma lol:)
[19:59] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: you'll get used to it :)
[19:59] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, but i seriously doubt it. their aren't actual windows directories and all that good junk like actual windows
[19:59] <bardyr> Linux_Fresher, just think about how you would do it in windows then do the opposite :)
[19:59] <Barko> ks3, Okay, thanks.
[19:59] <geirha> booxter: great for fairy tales :)
[19:59] <pixael> bardyr: in the past 4 years most malware has been traced back to an organisation called RBN, russian business network :D
[19:59] <ItchyHobo> hmm..
[19:59] <lunaphyte_> platinumblack: it looks very familiar...
[19:59] <pixael> all the major botnets etc
[19:59] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, give me 10 minutes and i'll tell u
[19:59] <booxter> opensource is not a silver bullet for such a huge project as OpenOffice I think
[19:59] <LordOfThePigs> !sleep
[19:59] <ubot3> Factoid sleep not found
[19:59] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, man if u really wanna learn linux experiment and play with it; but before u do that create a backup...
[20:00] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  hell yes to that .. plus there is NOT a single help channel for windows which can even think of coming close to the level of coolness and support of people here... amen to that
[20:00] <puplin> lol
[20:00] <puplin> yeah try ##windows :P
[20:00] <LordOfThePigs> meh... It kinda sucks that suspend never worked with any ubuntu version on any of my laptops
[20:00] <LordOfThePigs> I think I'm cursed
[20:00] <platinumblack> lunaphyte, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4394099&postcount=131
[20:00] <bardyr> LordOfThePigs, 8.04 fixed my suspend problems, it works perfect now :)
[20:00] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  no way i am going back to windows .. i have given more than 3k $s to big billy and now it stops there for good .. whatever more money i spend for softwares is going to linux .. NOT WINDOZ
[20:00] <Odd-rationale> LordOfThePigs: For me too: sleep/hibernate == shutdown/restart
[20:01] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, linux is free... and ive seen maybe 10 applications you have to pay before in 8 years
[20:01] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: lol
[20:01] <Cann0n> i suggest using linux, not using linux to run windows programs
[20:01] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: regarding viruses and the likes, have a read at this: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[20:01] <Kane> salut tout le monde
[20:01] <sharkos> Cann0n: ... and most of those 10 were viruses anyway!
[20:01] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  kk .. reading .. brb
[20:01] <platinumblack> lunaphyte: sorry forgot, to boot initially at grub menu add the option all_generic_ide and boot in recovery mode
[20:01] <pianoboy3333> I'm in linux and using the newest beta, how can I change the pitch of a track I've imported by a half step with audacity?
[20:02] <neknem> newest beta?
[20:02] <Cann0n> sharkos, not for linux. most of them were just license fee's.
[20:02] <Nyla> ciao
[20:02] <schemacs> pianoboy: have you tried #audacity
[20:02] <neknem> newest alpha you mean?
[20:02] <ItchyHobo> Cann0n, http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2005-January/016730.html
[20:02] <ItchyHobo> here is what wine ppl say about it...
[20:02] <LordOfThePigs> bardyr, Odd-rationale : For me, suspend does succeed in suspending, but the sleep LED on my laptop blinks once, and then it tries to resume by itself
[20:02] <Nyla> !addon
[20:02] <ubot3> Factoid addon not found
[20:02] <LordOfThePigs> and fails miserably
[20:03] <LordOfThePigs> I'll try gutsy when it gets into beta or release candidate
[20:03] <sharkos> Cann0n: don't you recognise an inane comment ^^
[20:03] <Cann0n> ItchyHobo, the problem with running windows viruses through wine, is 99% of the time, i'm going to know what im running on wine. lol
[20:03] <tritium> LordOfThePigs: you mean hardy, I take it?
[20:03] <Wavesonics> dual monitors wont work with my ATI Radeon 9800 :(
[20:03] <Nyla> ciao
[20:03] <zcat[1]> "hardly hereyet"
[20:03] <LordOfThePigs> tritium, er... yeah..
[20:04] <Nyla> !list
[20:04] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:04] <ItchyHobo> Cann0n, guess u r right; wine can be used as a sandbox to test viruses though...
[20:04] <mr-george> Hi there, last night when I went to bed, my resolution was 1024*768, this morning when I woke up i got a message saying there were errors with my monitor (Acer 15 inch, 4 years old) and graphics card (intel gma x3100 ), now when ever I boot up and shut down my monitor displays a message saying "input not supported" and the resolution only stays at 800*600, please could somebody help
[20:04] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  nice doc .. basically puts me at peace =)
[20:04] <LordOfThePigs> Is there any wiki page giving pointers on how to get suspend to work won gutsy?
[20:04] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  btw .. geirha: btw i have done following things .. 1) installed and updated ubuntu .. rebooted 2) installed and rebooted 'restricted drivers' .. only nVidia stuff in there .. worked perfectly, things look
[20:04] <Cann0n> yeah it could, but out of all the crazy places i find myself on the web, using spybot and avg on windows xp, along with firefox, i'm pretty safe.
[20:04] <zcat[1]> a5 is still pretty buggy.. broken firefox link on the start bar? nobody noticed that in alpha4 ?!!
[20:04] <Laruft> mine always uses 800x600 too. no matter what i do, and i'm using matrox g200 16mb
[20:05] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  amazingly good ..  so now what next ?
[20:05] <ItchyHobo> Cann0n, anyway the virus threat via wine doesn't look serious cuz the only apps i use wine for  are games; and u have to be pretty evil to design viruses to target specific games
[20:05] <Cann0n> especially when i've built a security database of trojans and virus code. not one has escaped my control
[20:05] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  also, updated syanptic and 'add remove'  from start menu and rebooted
[20:05] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: now you can have fun!
[20:05] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: you almost never need to reboot
[20:05] <pianoboy3333> I'm in linux and using the newest beta, how can I change the pitch of a track I've imported by a half step with audacity?
[20:05] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  but .. still i cant seem to find fish swimming on my cube
[20:05] <Laruft> what is the unix command to like chkdsk?
[20:06] <Wavesonics> any one here gotten Dual heads to work with the open source ATI drivers?
[20:06] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  oh .. thats the windows part .. i am trying to lose that mentality !!
[20:06] <nonix4> Would you consider 1 gigabyte for /boot to be overkill?
[20:06] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: now you learn bash scripting like any good linux geek does ;)
[20:06] <Cann0n> yeah. most viruses arent geared toward games, just general over all destruction and aggravation. i dont blame folks making viruses for windows
[20:06] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: alt+f2 --> compiz --replace
[20:06] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  okies .. gimmi some book name for it
[20:06] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: I had a collection of over 2000 unique viruses back in the dos/bbs days.. never caused me any problems, just files in a directory.
[20:06] <Cann0n> i mean shit, if it wasnt for viruses and black hat hackers, our technology would still be less advanced on the security end
[20:06] <ItchyHobo> Laruft, fsck
[20:06] <ItchyHobo> !fsck
[20:06] <ubot3> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[20:06] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  alt + F2 gave some window called run application
[20:07] <seisen> !ohmy Cann0n
[20:07] <puplin> yeah
[20:07] <ubot3> Factoid ohmy cann0n not found
[20:07] <puplin> type in compiz --replace
[20:07] <Cann0n> lol
[20:07] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: alt+f2 is like win+r or Start --> Run
[20:07] <ubuntu2> !grub
[20:07] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:07] <mihkel> Hi, i have a question! Why cant my ubuntu play mp3?
[20:07] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  it just kind of closed and restarted the whole screen
[20:07] <puplin> yeah
[20:08] <puplin> now compiz is running
[20:08] <tritium> !mp3 | mihkel
[20:08] <ubot3> mihkel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:08] <Laruft> thx
[20:08] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  but still there arent fish swimming
[20:08] <sdaugherty> ok... putting in the frequency values rather than having DPMS autodetect them worked, even though it's showing the same values detected as I'm manually specifying
[20:08] <genii> sdaugherty: Were you able to install the read-edid utility and find out the modes of your monitor yet?
[20:08] <Wavesonics> why doesn't Ubuntu use a nice graphical boot loader like lilo since it is suppose to be the User friendly Linux?
[20:08] <Cann0n> seisen, am i right? look at linux compared to windows.
[20:08] <zcat[1]> what is up with ubotu still.. we're a linux help channel and there's nobody around who knows how to fix up a bot?!!
[20:08] <Linux_Fresher> puplin: http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/46534/2000287317936092481_rs.jpg
[20:08] <ItchyHobo> Laruft, learn the apropos command
[20:08] <puplin> Linux_Fresher: now go to the system menu (on your taskbar) and --> Preferences --> Advanced Desktop Settings
[20:08] <mihkel> Thanks a lot!
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | Cann0n
[20:08] <ubot3> Cann0n: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:08] <puplin> play around in there
[20:08] <ItchyHobo> !apropos
[20:08] <ubot3> Factoid apropos not found
[20:09] <ItchyHobo> would save u a lot of time
[20:09] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html    note that you can live without knowing bash, but it sure is helpful to know basic shell scripting
[20:09] <genii> sdaugherty: eg:  sudo get-edid|parse-edid           will give you output suitable for copying into the xorg.conf file
[20:09] <Cann0n> i dont even think a virus could be advanced enough to spread thru a linux file system like a windows
[20:09] <Wavesonics> Linux_Fresher: whats the screen of, my compiz doesnt look like that!
[20:09] <Cann0n> Jack_Sparrow, we were talking about anti-viruses being a priority.
[20:09] <Linux_Fresher> geirha:  thanks for it bookmarked it
[20:09] <Cann0n> !ot | Jack_Sparrow
[20:10] <ubot3> Jack_Sparrow: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:10] <Linux_Fresher> Wavesonics:  iono .. me 1 hr old in linux .. but i want that thing on my pc
[20:10] <geirha> sdaugherty: you just commented/removed the dpms line from xorg.conf and it worked with the m990 monitor?
[20:10] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: wouldn't be that hard actually.. have a process sit in background, wait for the .sudo_as_admin_successful flag to come up, then ride that to root.
[20:10] <Wavesonics> Linux_Fresher: aahhh, well it looks like compiz, but, a little different
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1], Please note.. offtopic
[20:10] <Wavesonics> Linux_Fresher: start with compiz
[20:10] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  i have already played with that cmss pakage !! :) .. but i couldnt find fish in there lol
[20:11] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  my screen now rotates like a cube ^^
[20:11] <puplin> yeah that's cool...
[20:11] <puplin> keep adding plugins :)
[20:11] <sdaugherty> I googled the frequencies and put them in manually
[20:11] <Wavesonics> teh gnome compiz prefs app SUCKS
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, I linked you three times to the addons that need to be compiled and at least one other person linked them to you as well
[20:11] <puplin> but i don't know of fish...
[20:11] <puplin> Wavesonics: yeah
[20:11] <sdaugherty> lemme jump back inside X
[20:11] <puplin> Wavesonics: i use compiz-settings-manager
[20:12] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  yeah and wobbly windows rock !! i am trying to find some disney cartoon theme for it !! these wobbles will go very well with a cartoon theme .. btw does linux has theme concept like windoz ?
[20:12] <puplin> yeah
[20:12] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:    :):):):):):):):):)
[20:12] <Wavesonics> pulpin: is that in the normal repos?
[20:12] <geirha> Linux_Fresher: gnome-look.org has a lot of themes and backgrounds
[20:12] <puplin> i didn't know windows did :)
[20:12] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  u r back !!
[20:12] <puplin> Wavesonics: yeah
[20:12] <lunaphyte_> when i'm adding an option like "all_generic_ide" to grub at the grub menu during boot, where exactly does this go?
[20:12] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, u have no idea how much u can customize the linux look ;)
[20:12] <zcat[1]> the default choices (off, some 3d, more 3d) are pretty slack.. they should include the advanced settings as well, by default..
[20:12] <puplin> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:12] <Wavesonics> I just searched for compiz-settings-manager in synaptic and nothing came up
[20:12] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, u will be VERY pleasantly surprised..
[20:12] <puplin> yeh soz it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:12] <genii> lunaphyte_: right after where it says something like quiet splash
[20:13] <seisen> !universe
[20:13] <ubot3> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[20:13] <Wavesonics> ah got it, thanks
[20:13] <zcat[1]> .. and emerald as well, would be good
[20:13] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:   <--  my Mentor in the linux
[20:13] <Cann0n> i dont understand the use of banning me in the middle of a discussion about viruses in linux.
[20:13] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: we were offtopic :(
[20:14] <pianoboy3333> !offtopic
[20:14] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:14] <platinumblack> lunaphyte: look in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/*    you'll find that all those are scripts run at boot time
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Cann0n, It is offtopic.. it belongs in offtopic and not in support
[20:14] <Wavesonics> ubot3: i love you :)
[20:14] <ubot3> Factoid i love you :) not found
[20:14] <Wavesonics> aahhhh
[20:14] <pianoboy3333> When did ubotu become ubot3?
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> lol
[20:14] <Cann0n> wow thats anal.
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333, Bots are in for tuneups
[20:14] <Linux_Fresher> ubotu  broke down :(
[20:14] <zcat[1]> pianoboy3333: after ubotu and ubotwo both broke
[20:14] <geirha> pianoboy3333: when it crashed twice
[20:14] <Chris|> lol ubot3
[20:15] <tritium> pianoboy3333: he didn't.  ubot3 is a third bot.  There's also ubotwo
[20:15] <pianoboy3333> hahaha
[20:15] <Wavesonics> sure wish CodeBlocks would get added to an official repo
[20:15] <puplin> Jack_Sparrow: how is viruses off topic?
[20:15] <seisen> is is a help forum
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> puplin, It has nothing to do with support..
[20:15] <Cann0n> then dont ban the people who ask the questions relating to viruses on ubuntu
[20:16] <puplin> Jack_Sparrow: it sort of did
[20:16] <Chris|> puplin it might be better to discuss viruses in #ubuntu-offtopic more general chat than a help room :)
[20:16] <Linux_Fresher> sometimes @s just feel some topic is  .. people have to realise that chat channel entry is a privilege , not a right
[20:16] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: This migth help you install compiz plugins the easy way; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620000 :)
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Cann0n, Take it to offtopic
[20:16] <Wavesonics> puplin: oh my god this settings manager is SSOOO mcuh better!
[20:16] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: where to find clamav package or why you don't need it is ontopic.. how you might write a linux virus is offtopic :)
[20:16] <puplin> it was in response to questions/comments about worry about viruses in ubuntu
[20:16] <amenado> zcat[1]-> did you get you ppp  modem issue resolved?
[20:16] <puplin> Wavesonics: lol
[20:16] <Cann0n> yeah yeah i know. but i didnt ask the questions on linux viruses. i guess to help you havent to turn a def ear
[20:17] <tritium> Cann0n: discussion of viruses on ubuntu specifically is a valid topic.
[20:17] <pianoboy3333> !rootkit
[20:17] <ubot3> Factoid rootkit not found
[20:17] <platinumblack> lunaphyte: maybe i misunderstood your question, at grub menu select an option and press e, then  select the 2nd line (the one with root=...) and press e add the option all_generic_ide then press enter then press b to boot
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> puplin, it went way beyond that to the point of how one might go about writing one..
[20:17] <Cann0n> tritium, dont tell me that, i didnt ban myself
[20:17] <zcat[1]> amenado: yeah, I think 'passive' might fix it. Modem's not here tho, have emailed the person with the suggestion tho.
[20:17] <tritium> Cann0n: I'm just clarifying for you, friend
[20:17] <zcat[1]> there's no factoid for rootkit?
[20:17] <amenado> zcat[1]-> i would not think lcp would start until one gets a "connect" status from a modem
[20:18] <Cann0n> tritium, thank you.
[20:18] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  i would say if one is infected and is having problems, it would become a topic in this channel, but just discussing linux viruses may be off topic for some @s .. again, being here is a privilege .. not a right
[20:18] <lunaphyte_> platinumblack: yeah, that was what i was wondering, thanks.
[20:18] <zcat[1]> amenado: by default pppd sends 10 attempts, one second apart then hangs up... the other end hasn't caught up after we connected.. passive, it will send ten attempts and then wait and see what comes back
[20:19] <zcat[1]> so I think that will work
[20:19] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  like me very newbie in linux being guided by many and especially Jack_Sparrow .. i wasnt knowing he is @ here till he morphed into one a few lines above !! but if he feels discussing fish on cube is offtopic, he has right to warn me
[20:19] <Cann0n> i guess im in the wrong then. sigh... i just recall some people being paranoid about linux viruses. i was just emphasizing on that.
[20:19] <amenado> zcat[1]-> still, til the status of connect from modem handshake, lcp should never start
[20:19] <tritium> Cann0n: you're not wrong
[20:20] <eatatjoes2> i have a mx700 mouse and when i use the scollup button it goes back a page, can anyone help?
[20:20] <zcat[1]> amenado: connect yes.. .but other end has to spawn pppd and apparently that's taking them some time.. overloaded dialup server I think
[20:20] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  yup .. its just mis understanding m8, no one is wrong or right !! but arguing over the matter sure makes it wrong in the eyes of some @s .. after all, they are the sledge hammer !!
[20:20] <Cann0n> tritium, didn't think so.
[20:20] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: doesn't pay to argue with the @'s ..
[20:20] <amenado> zcat[1]-> yep good possibility
[20:21] <olskolirc> eatatjoes2 did you try dpkg-reconfigure?
[20:21] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  i would even say that discussing whats right and wrong for this channel is fathoms away from ubuntu issues .. this general discussion totally is #ubuntu-offtopic thing
[20:21] <egoleo> hello
[20:21] <egoleo> how do i plse disable X starting by default
[20:21] <zcat[1]> amenado: and if that fails, perhaps more request attempts, or make them further apart... but we'll see how passive goes
[20:21] <egoleo> i want to always start from the console
[20:21] <egoleo> when i boot
[20:22] <Cann0n> it does Linux_Fresher. so i say what is my business mine, and leave be what happened.
[20:22] <zcat[1]> egoleo: mv /etc/rc2.d/S20gdm /etc/rc2.d/K20gdm
[20:22] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  good call m8 .. cheers n peace out
[20:22] <olskolirc> how can I get my external hd and my flash drive to automount on Gutsy 7.10 please?
[20:23] <Cann0n> olskolirc, you need drivers
[20:23] <zcat[1]> egoleo: sorry "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S30gdm /etc/rc2.d/K30gdm"
[20:23] <Gary_inNYC> hey, is there a legitimate reason i have 2 instances (2 versions) of python running simultaneously?
[20:23] <Wavesonics> puplin: the settings Im chaing in the compiz manager dont seem to take
[20:23] <geirha> egoleo: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[20:23] <olskolirc> what kind of driers Cann0n
[20:23] <norty> hi
[20:23] <egoleo> thnx
[20:23] <zcat[1]> geirha: oh.. there's an easier way?!
[20:23] <PriceChild> olskolirc: Cann0n: Drives should automount by default when you plug them in.
[20:24] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  the forum line says -->  Just download the tar and untar it to your desktop or home folder. Then do the following command   .. now i have the cube .. so i take it as that tar gz whatever has been already done ?
[20:24] <olskolirc> yes it loads when I plug it in PriceChild but I want it to automount when i bootup
[20:24] <geirha> zcat[1]: yeah, wasn't aware of it either untill someone in this channel mentioned it a few days ago
[20:24] <puplin> Wavesonics: you need to go to the compiz settings in appearance and set them on custom
[20:24] <xif> hello youbuntu
[20:24] <PriceChild> !fstab | olskolirc
[20:24] <ubot3> olskolirc: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:24] <xif> Can I tell Ubuntu not to perform automatic updates of a certain package?
[20:24] <Cann0n> PriceChild, yeah but if its not auto mounting, he will have to modprobe the usb drivers to mount a filesystem to enable him to browse a usb hd
[20:24] <zcat[1]> !pin
[20:24] <ubot3> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[20:25] <Gary_inNYC> i just got a recent security update for python 2.4 and 2.5... is there a reason for this?
[20:25] <zcat[1]> xif: !pin was for you..
[20:25] <Cann0n> and fstab*
[20:25] <xif> zcat[1]: thanks! :-)
[20:25] <PriceChild> Gary_inNYC: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-585-1
[20:25] <Linux_Fresher> aww cd plugins says no such file or directory =/
[20:25] <Wavesonics> puplin: appearance in the settings manager?
[20:26] <Brandon_> Okay none of the documentation explains this. When setting up an ssh key and using ssh-add does one need to be on the "main session" of the server to allow it not to use a passphrase or password when authenticating itself with another server.
[20:26] <Linux_Fresher> puplin:  whenever u get free, pm me plz
[20:26] <Wavesonics> puplin: nvm, i found it
[20:27] <goppp_> !hardy
[20:27] <ubot3> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:27] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, what you need?
[20:27] <eatatjoes2> olskolirc, how do i do that?
[20:27] <ompaul> Brandon_, your question did not parse
[20:27] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620000   .. i got stuck at the line typed above ..
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Did you extract the .tar.gz?
[20:28] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  erm .. nope ... dont know ..  =/  .. i have the cube though
[20:28] <Black_Magic> Err, Ubuntu isnt reconizing the CD-RW in my drive.
[20:28] <Brandon_> ompaul, I have no idea either. Have you ever tried to make it so one server and run commands of another server like "ssh foo@example.com lpstat -o" without needing a password or passphrase?
[20:28] <Brandon_> can*
[20:28] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: The the .tar.gz on your desktop right now?
[20:28] <Brandon_> on*
[20:28] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  nope
[20:28] <olskolirc> that depends eatatjoes2 what kind of X you are using - if you are using xorg then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then enable your video drivers in restricted drivers if you are using one
[20:29] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  only 3 hard drive icons there
[20:29] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Where did you download it then.
[20:29] <deviank> uhm what was the command-line parameter to make a file write-able? /forgetful D:
[20:29] <Gary_inNYC> will Hardy be the one to truly "just work"? hehe.
[20:29] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  Jack_Sparrow gave me some BIG command to type in terminal .. that gave me the sweet cube and super cool effects
[20:30] <manuautre> bonsoir
[20:30] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, what are you trying to do? install something you downloaded?
[20:30] <geirha> Brandon_: key based authentication with ssh-agent or host based authentication
[20:30] <ompaul> Brandon_, what I do is this have sshd running on the server -- on the local box that will be connecting to it ssh-keygen -t rsa (and other options if that is what you want) but anyway .. then you can add passwords -- then I scp id_rsa.pub to .ssh on other box as machine.name.source.pub and then when there I do this cat machine.name.source.pub >> authorized_keys     as the user you want to log on as .. game over ssh -C box.that.you.want.to.log.ont
[20:30] <ompaul> o.with.the.same.username   (or ssh -C user@farbox)  if you used a password earlier you need to remember it if not you just ssh no pass
[20:30] <Linux_Fresher> Cann0n:  trying to make fish swim on that cube .. its some plugin for the cube
[20:30] <patbam> hi, if i want to try out  firefox 3 beta 4, is there anything i should do? perhaps backup my ~/.mozilla directory?
[20:31] <Cann0n> hmmm. out of my league. i go for performance instead of visual effects.
[20:31] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Are you currently trying to follow the steps in that link I gave you?
[20:31] <ompaul> Brandon_, sorry are you asking to run just a single command then a password anywhere would be silly if you wanted to be automagic
[20:31] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  yup
[20:31] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  got stuck at cd plugins .. it says no such file or directory coz there isnt one
[20:32] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Log into the forum and download the plugins.tar.gz file at the bottom of the first post. Put that file on your desktop or something.
[20:32] <tobiwan> hi everyone.... i got quite a challenging problem on a 7.10 laptop having an intel gm965 graphics chip
[20:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, Last and final time I link these special addons to you   http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303
[20:32] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  kk
[20:32] <Brandon_> ompaul, yeah a single command. I already set up the keys. It seemsl ike the ssh-add stuff is session specific
[20:32] <Zortok> ?
[20:32] <ompaul> Brandon_, in the case you want to do something far end    ssh -C user@farbox FooBar
[20:32] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  FINE !! THANKS  !! :P
[20:32] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Now right-click the plugins.tar.gz file and select "Extract Here"
[20:33] <O01> alright
[20:33] <O01> so, I installed FireFox
[20:33] <O01> I'm used to press backspace to go back
[20:33] <Gary_inNYC> and?
[20:33] <cromag> O01: 1 sec..
[20:33] <O01> and shift-backspace to go forward
[20:33] <O01> how do I do that?
[20:33] <novato_br> how can I install a printer from local network to ubuntu?
[20:33] <tobiwan> the native resolution of the screen should be 1280x800, but the actual screen size of gnome is less (both horizontally and vertically).... but the screen is still accessible
[20:33] <Linux_Fresher> ah !! its all cool now, i thought that these all come by default just need to be activated lol
[20:33] <ompaul> !enter | O01
[20:33] <ubot3> O01: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:33] <cromag> O01: search google for backspace firefox ubuntu
[20:34] <ompaul> O01, alt left arrow and alt right arrow
[20:34] <O01> oh wow cromag, good fucking idea
[20:34] <ompaul> cromag, no - yopu
[20:34] <O01> I didn't think of that one.
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: You got it?
[20:34] <ompaul> !language | O01
[20:34] <ubot3> O01: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:34] <O01> dude, answer without stupidity and I will obey these rules.
[20:34] <cromag> http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=+backspace+firefox+ubuntu&meta=
[20:34] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  yup .. wasnt knowing it was a fresh dl , i thought it all came with the basic pkg
[20:34] <ompaul> O01, I did already
[20:34] <cromag> first hit..
[20:34] <O01> "Google with FireFox Ubuntu BackSpace"
[20:34] <O01> oh really?
[20:35] <cromag> aww... :(
[20:35] <Brandon_> ompaul, compression isn't the problem. If I do ssh-add with a putty session it lets me run single line statements as much as I want. But right when I open a new session and check ssh-add it doesn't have the key
[20:35] <Gary_inNYC> 001, did you read the Alt left / Alt right response?
[20:35] <novato_br> how can I install a printer from local network to ubuntu?
[20:35] <novato_br> !cups
[20:35] <ubot3> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:35] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: so you can do the rest of the tutorial by your self?
[20:35] <Brandon_> ompaul, how do I connect to the main session?
[20:35] <ompaul> cromag, you either give someone an answer but never tell them to google
[20:35] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  and u aint getting off the leash that easily ,.. downloading wine atm ,.. we are going to start warhammer 40k through wine right now .. so get your bottle of beer or something.. u got like full 5 mins to do that
[20:35] <ompaul> Brandon_, putty no idea how that works
[20:36] <Linux_Fresher> Odd-rationale:  yup :)
[20:36] <Brandon_> ompaul, or do I need direct access to the server?
[20:36] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Good luck!
[20:36] <mr-george> if anyone has time to help me I would really appreciate it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4496760#post4496760
[20:36] <cromag> ompaul: im sorry, but i just knew the first post would fix the problem. I usually dont, and im sorry.
[20:36] <tobiwan> the intel problem is pretty hard to explain, but you can see it here: http://narishah.at/resolution.png (if you notice how the gnome panels are cut off too soon and the lower one is offset from the bottom)
[20:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, I dont do wine.. you are on your own..
[20:36] <ompaul> Brandon_, you need to access the server at some stage and even putty does that -- but I don't jknow how it does options
[20:37] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  0.o .. fine !! i will find out something else in ubuntu which needs your help  mewhhahahahahaha
[20:37] <tobiwan> sorry for bothering you, but i tried google, changed settings in both xorg and gnome to no avail, and i feel a bit out of my depth here
[20:37] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  though hard rum is always better than wine !! ever thought of being a sailor ? its 350$s a day ;)
[20:38] <david_> hello
[20:38] <Brandon_> ompaul, okay I'm gonna log onto the main server and do the ssh-add. Hopefully that works.
[20:38] <Cann0n> !ot | Linux_Fresher
[20:38] <ubot3> Linux_Fresher: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:38] <david_> i want to start programming java, anyone have any good links for a complete newcomer?
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, Please stay on topic.. and I'll take the job,  I can sail..  65' was the last one...
[20:39] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, if you are installing wine through the add/remove problems, once it installs, you most likely need to set up a vdrive for it.
[20:39] <ompaul> Brandon_,  I think if you include the command straight after the other box it runs it no options needed
[20:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, Setup a user without root access and dont map Drive Z to your root
[20:39] <goppp_> !likewise
[20:39] <ubot3> Factoid likewise not found
[20:40] <DsnaIR> hola
[20:40] <Flare183> !es | DsnaIR
[20:40] <ubot3> DsnaIR: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:41] <jeanmichel> bonjour, hello etc....
[20:41] <Brandon_> ompaul, "straight after the other box" what does that mean?
[20:41] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow:  but how to find out if i am the root atm or i am not one ?  though i know the password to put in everytime when i want to install something, i am not sure that till i enter the password i am the root
[20:41] <ompaul> Brandon_, ssh -C me@target command
[20:41] <Flare183> Brandon_: please don't get smart
[20:41] <Gary_inNYC> i installed wine, uninstalled it, saw that wine was still in my menus, removed that as well.  Now that i reinstalled wine, the original menus don't come back
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Type: whoami
[20:42] <Cann0n> Linux_Fresher, once you finish determining if you're all set up properly, install it using a command screen. cd to the path of the install file and type wine install.exe or what ever the setup program is named.
[20:42] <Brandon_> ompaul, that asks for a passphrase
[20:42] <Brandon_> Flare183, that was real question
[20:42] <Cann0n> whoami
[20:42] <ompaul> Brandon_, you did not use keys which was what I explained in the first case
[20:42] <Linux_Fresher> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ whoami
[20:42] <Linux_Fresher> ubuntu
[20:42] <Gary_inNYC> what's happened to my wine menus in gnome panel?
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: Compare "whoami" with "sudo whoami"
[20:43] <Cann0n> Gary_inNYC,  what was the last thing you did?
[20:43] <puplin> sudo makes the command run as root
[20:43] <Linux_Fresher> dang! i am the root after i put in the password
[20:43] <Gary_inNYC> Cann0n, well i uninstalled wine, then deleted wine from Applications in gnome panel since it was left over
[20:43] <LjL> erm, any way to recover truncated files on ext3? (truncated to zero size, not deleted)
[20:43] <Linux_Fresher> so does it mean that i am a common user till i enter the password ?
[20:43] <puplin> yes
[20:43] <Linux_Fresher> ah
[20:44] <Flare183> !who | puplin
[20:44] <ubot3> puplin: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:44] <clarezoe> can anyone help me with my file-roller, it extract everything in one folder no matter how many folders in the archive file
[20:44] <Gary_inNYC> i then reinstalled wine, and found that the shortcut menus for wine don't come back
[20:44] <Odd-rationale> Linux_Fresher: So whenever you forget who you are, you now know how to find out. :)
[20:44] <puplin> !sudo | Linux_Fresher
[20:44] <ubot3> Linux_Fresher: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[20:44] <Linux_Fresher> kewl
[20:44] <Cann0n> Gary_inNYC, try right clicking the menu and select edit menu. see if the menu is checked to be viewed
[20:44] <^A^kira> what should i do if i've get (EE) AIGLX error, i have ATI X200m, propreatary drivers and d3d is ok
[20:45] <backtracker> hi, I work with Gutsy Gibbon 7.10
[20:45] <Flare183> !hi | backtracker
[20:45] <ubot3> backtracker: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:45] <Gary_inNYC> Cann0n, i deleted those left over when i uninstalled wine
[20:45] <backtracker> I want to public web
[20:45] <backtracker> but dunno what to use
[20:45] <backtracker> xampp?
[20:45] <backtracker> dunno really
[20:45] <tobiwan> one more thing about my intel 965 graphics problem: Xorg.0.log tells me the following: (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1280x800" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[20:46] <Flare183> !enter | backtracker
[20:46] <Cann0n> Gary_inNYC, and when you installed it again, they didnt show up?
[20:46] <ubot3> backtracker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:46] <K4k> has anyone messed with hardy yet?
[20:46] <Gary_inNYC> Cann0n, nope
[20:46] <Wavesonics> Any way to get anything cooler then the 3D gears inside the cube in Compiz?
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> K4k: Many people have. try #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <Flare183> Cann0n: he has to rerun the menu script that comes with wine
[20:46] <K4k> Odd-rationale, thanks
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> Wavesonics: You can have fishes...
[20:46] <Gary_inNYC> Cann0n, it's nothing serious since i use my own custom shortcuts for programs running in wine, but i just wanted to know
[20:46] <backtracker> Cann0n: I want to install a web server at my PC
[20:46] <Cann0n> Gary_inNYC, Flare183 i was going to suggest that.
[20:46] <^A^kira> what should i do if i've get (EE) AIGLX error, i have ATI X200m, propreatary drivers and d3d is ok
[20:47] <GrantMynott> I don't suppose anyone could help me work out how to use my swap partition again? My windows installation messed up when i was dual booting it with Ubuntu so i re installed Windows again, my swap and ubuntu partition still exists but i can't choose to boot to ubuntu anymore, it boots to Windows
[20:47] <puplin> Wavesonics: google around for plugins
[20:47] <Cann0n> backtracker, what web server?
[20:47] <backtracker> dunno
[20:47] <puplin> GrantMynott: swap?
[20:47] <Flare183> !fixgrub | GrantMynott
[20:47] <ubot3> GrantMynott: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:47] <Cann0n> apache?
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> !grub | GrantMynott
[20:47] <backtracker> I want to know if I should install xampp
[20:47] <^A^kira> !AIGLX
[20:47] <ubot3> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[20:47] <bardyr> backtracker, dont
[20:47] <backtracker> I want to work with Apache
[20:47] <an_tadh> Does anybody know how to get a program like FireFox or JACK to run automatically from start up?
[20:48] <bardyr> backtracker, install it with apt its just as easy and much better
[20:48] <GrantMynott> Thanks
[20:48] <Flare183> !autostart | an_tadh
[20:48] <ubot3> an_tadh: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[20:48] <Cann0n> dont know about xampp
[20:48] <an_tadh> Thanks
[20:48] <backtracker> bardyr: apt-get install apache?
[20:48] <Flare183> !lamp | bardyr
[20:48] <ubot3> bardyr: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[20:48] <puplin> backtracker: xampp is great
[20:48] <bardyr> !lamp > backtracker
[20:49] <hybrid-kernel> is it possible to have 3d acceleration with xgl? (ati)
[20:49] <Cann0n> backtracker, try joining #apache
[20:49] <Flare183> hybrid-kernel: yes
[20:49] <bardyr> backtracker, short version apt-get install apache2
[20:49] <backtracker> puplin: I've worked with xampp it's really great but dunno if it's also in Linux
[20:49] <Flare183> !xgl | hybrid-kernel
[20:49] <ubot3> hybrid-kernel: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:49] <Cann0n> i always went to apache.org and setting it up myself.
[20:49] <puplin> backtracker: yes it is
[20:49] <puplin> xampp.org
[20:49] <backtracker> puplin: GUI Instalation?
[20:49] <backtracker> Installation?
[20:49] <bardyr> i understand using xampp in a windows environment but there is no reason for it in a linux environment
[20:49] <adub> does anyone use star office ??
[20:50] <backtracker> bardyr: why?
[20:50] <backtracker> what's the difference?
[20:50] <Flare183> adub: I have on windows
[20:50] <puplin> backtracker: well you extract it
[20:50] <adub> flare183 do you remember how to print envelopes
[20:50] <bardyr> backtracker, because with apt you get it build and integrated into your ubuntu, and its just as easy setting it up
[20:50] <Flare183> adub: Sorry, I don't remember
[20:50] <Brandon_> ompaul, okay I've read over all you said a few times. What do you mean I didn't use keys? So when I did ssh -C root@??? lpstat -p why is it asking for a passphrase? In order to get that don't I have to be using keys?
[20:50] <LjL> is there any way to recover truncated files on ext3? (truncated to zero size like with 'echo "" >file', not deleted)
[20:50] <Flare183> adub: something with a template
[20:51] <sfears> when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper there's a FATAL: module not found error.. any ideas anyone?
[20:51] <adub> so there is a template for it or something
[20:51] <Viden> Evolution is about to make me crazy with the constant crashes and slow processing of exchange contact lists ... is there anything else out there that will work with Exchange on linux?  I am on evolution 2.12.1 ... is there a newer version that is not listed in APT ?
[20:51] <backtracker> bardyr: but I need to install MySQL, etc.
[20:51] <backtracker> configuration and all that work
[20:51] <bardyr> backtracker, sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin
[20:51] <Flare183> LjL: I have heard of it from somewhere or somebody
[20:51] <adub> im assuming i use staroffice writer
[20:51] <Flare183> adub: yeah
[20:51] <backtracker> bardyr: the configuration is hard?
[20:52] <bardyr> backtracker, default values work
[20:52] <backtracker> wow, nice
[20:52] <bardyr> backtracker, this is what linux does
[20:53] <hybrid-kernel> What I actually wanted was a way to have 3d acceleration (for 3d opengl games) along with 3d accelerated xgl. I saw some old 2006 thread about running 2 X servers, and run all 3d progs though a script but it never worked for me
[20:53] <backtracker> then thanks, it's nice doing it without some -already-created-package
[20:53] <backtracker> bardyr: and then you don't know wtf it has configurated
[20:53] <backtracker> 14% [8 mysql-client-5.0 923153/7493kB 12%]                                                 36.8kB/s 17m30s
[20:53] <Flare183> LjL: this might help: http://amadeus.ece.uprm.edu/~undelete/
[20:53] <backtracker> heh
[20:54] <Viden> Is there a way to get Evolution 2.22.0 from APT without having to compile the source manually?
[20:54] <Flare183> Viden: yes
[20:54] <ompaul> Brandon_, you have me confused so why don't I tell ya how I do stuff - with no passwords and then you can apply it to yourself?
[20:54] <Cann0n> backtracker, do you have experience in web hosting?
[20:54] <lunaphyte_> how do i mount lvm filesystems if i boot to a shell from an install cd, for recovery purposes?
[20:54] <Viden> flare183:  what is the repo ?
[20:54] <Flare183> Viden: on a terminal type in apt-get source evolution
[20:54] <Brandon_> ompaul, sure. I've followed 3 tutorials with no luck
[20:55] <Cann0n> backtracker, i suggest reading the manuals closely for security holes you may configure by accident.
[20:55] <LjL> Flare183, unfortunately that seems to require previous installation of the undeletion system
[20:55] <Brandon_> ompaul, actually I have leave for class right now
[20:55] <Flare183> Viden: a repo is a software repository
[20:55] <Viden> flare183:  that gets 2.12.1 ...
[20:55] <Viden> i want 2.22.0
[20:55] <Viden> the newest
[20:55] <Brandon_> ompaul, will you be online on thursday by any chance?
[20:55] <ompaul> Brandon_, pm
[20:55] <Flare183> LjL: sorry
[20:55] <etalli> Can anyone tell me where I should ask about how to send an individual packet in the GET blah format?
[20:56] <ompaul> Brandon_, pm me I paste what I said there eariler
[20:56] <StefanW> Viden: that is bundeled with the new ubuntu releasing april 2008
[20:56] <Cann0n> you cant uninstall evolution on ubuntu via add/remove
[20:56] <Viden> what I am asking is there a repo for the newest version since Ubuntu's repos are seemingly always out of date
[20:56] <Flare183> Viden: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
[20:56] <etalli> Like GET / HTTP/1.0 X-SomeHeader: ... Host: ...
[20:56] <Brandon_> ompaul, I don't have this name registered. One second
[20:56] <ompaul> Brandon_, you don't need to I am accepting all
[20:56] <bardyr> Viden, wait to the 20 march and grab Ubuntu hardy beta, but it can be a little (much) unstable
[20:57] <Flare183> Viden: it's not out of date it just take us MOTU's to get the packages onto the Repositories.
[20:57] <Wavesonics> does compiz not come with the 3D window plugin yet? i dont seem to have it, and I have the extra's package installed
[20:57] <etalli> What channel should I ask in?
[20:57] <Viden> bardyr:  yeah i cant run anything beta on this machine since its my work box, I need stability and most of my issues right now are with evolution which is horrible.  I hope they newer version fixes them
[20:57] <puplin> kk bbl all
[20:57] <Odd-rationale> Wavesonics: No it does not. It is unstable
[20:57] <puplin> cya l8r
[20:57] <Flare183> Wavesonics: yes but it doesn't work
[20:57] <Wavesonics> aahh ok thanks you two
[20:57] <Cann0n> Viden, have you tried thunderbird?
[20:57] <Viden> ok ... so compile it is the answer for now then
[20:57] <StefanW> Actually, I have it working fine :)
[20:57] <Wavesonics> how about the atlantis plugin, how can i get that?
[20:58] <Viden> cann0n:  yes but its integration with Calendars using lightning is sorry at best (the time / date bug that is yet to be fixed)
[20:58] <etalli> Hello?
[20:58] <Flare183> Wavesonics: look at the compiz website
[20:58] <Viden> kk .. ill compile it then
[20:59] <StefanW> Wavesonics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=659282
[20:59] <etalli> If I had a question about Ubuntu, would I be answered?
[20:59] <StefanW> if people can answer it, yes :)
[20:59] <Flare183> etalli: yes it would be
[20:59] <eatatjoes2> olskolirc, it only goes back in firefox it doesnt go back in the file explorer or any other prog when i hit the scrollup button (on my mouse)
[20:59] <Linux_Fresher> i accidentally ran a get command to download some pkg from web 2 times .. what it does ? over writes the previous downloaded data or occupies double space ?
[20:59] <jimmygoon> Is OO.o going to support docx soon?
[20:59] <jimmygoon> !docx
[20:59] <ubot3> Factoid docx not found
[21:00] <Flare183> etalli: if we knew the answer
[21:00] <StefanW> jimmygoon: there's a convertor for docx files :)
[21:00] <Bitmess> is it ok to uninstall apache?
[21:00] <Cann0n> !wireshark
[21:00] <ubot3> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 628 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[21:00] <jimmygoon> StefanW, yeah but does oo.o open them natively?
[21:00] <etalli> Flare183: If I can get a Ubuntu question answered in #ubuntu, where can I go to get a question about HTTP requests answered?
[21:00] <StefanW> jimmygoon: no
[21:01] <Cann0n> impressive bot.
[21:01] <Flare183> Cann0n: yes it is
[21:01] <jimmygoon> StefanW, well, actually. it opened this one :D
[21:01] <Flare183> etalli: I don't know
[21:01] <Linux_Fresher> ne1 ?
[21:01] <etalli> Flare183: Could it be answered here?
[21:01] <etalli> Perchance
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> Wavesonics: Here is the easiest way to get the new plugins: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620000
[21:01] <Flare183> etalli: if it was ubuntu related
[21:02] <StefanW> jimmygoon: with the expansion for docx files I take it? I don't think you can open office 2007 excel files for instance
[21:02] <Wavesonics> awesome thanks odd-rationale
[21:02] <backtracker> Cann0n: yes, web hosting of course
[21:02] <xarquid> etalli: #apache --- :p
[21:02] <ItchyHobo> etalli, u r making an ubuntu webpage aren't u ;)
[21:02] <jimmygoon> StefanW, oooh. Yeah. Its just a word docx file.
[21:02] <backtracker> but never installed Apache and MySQL, Exim, and all those services individually, why lying :)
[21:02] <conb123> im having a problem ive posted it here http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=721638 any ideas
[21:02] <Linux_Fresher> anyone ?
[21:03] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, did u run apt-get ?
[21:03] <Cann0n> backtracker, i suggest digging around on google for the exact installation guides, or visiting channel #apache
[21:03] <etalli> xarquid: Could they tell me how to send an HTTP request specifying GET yada yada in the Terminal and/or somewhere else?
[21:03] <etalli> xarquid: could you?
[21:03] <xarquid> etalli: Yes.
[21:04] <etalli> xarquid: To which question?
[21:04] <jimmygoon> telnet :)
[21:04] <Linux_Fresher> ItchyHobo:  yea i accidentally ran the same command 2 times ..
[21:04] <Linux_Fresher> ItchyHobo:  so what it does ? over writes the previously downloaded data or occupies double space ?
[21:04] <StefanW> jimmygoon: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/01/convert-openxml-docx-etc-in-linux-using.html
[21:04] <jimmygoon> StefanW, thanks
[21:04] <xarquid> etalli: To #apache or I could but I need to head out. Go to #apache -- they are the gurus on things like that. I'm sorry, I would help but I have an appointment I need to GET to ;p
[21:04] <Rudin_> hello
[21:04] <Gary_inNYC> does anyone else get crappy performance in firefox when visiting break.com?
[21:04] <etalli> xarquid: Punny!!  Thanks, though.
[21:05] <xarquid> etalli: I would rephrase the question as well before asking in there, I.E. why would you....eh </leave>
[21:05] <Rudin_> how can I see a java applet in a web page in Ubuntu 64?
[21:05] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, no prob there versions are automatically checked; fret not u wasted little or no space plus this cache can be later cleaned if u wish; versions of package are mantained online by the ubuntu package server
[21:05] <ubot3> Rudin_: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 384, column 84
[21:06] <backtracker> !john the ripper
[21:06] <ubot3> john: active password cracking tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-40.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 502 kB, installed size 976 kB
[21:06] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, if u already have a package apt-get doesn't download it again unless there is a newer version
[21:06] <backtracker> !thc-hydra
[21:06] <ubot3> Factoid thc-hydra not found
[21:06] <backtracker> !thc hydra
[21:06] <ubot3> Factoid thc hydra not found
[21:06] <backtracker> !thchydra
[21:06] <ubot3> Factoid thchydra not found
[21:06] <backtracker> meh
[21:06] <conb123> anybody have any idea about whats causing my problem http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=721638
[21:06] <backtracker> sorry about 'flood'
[21:07] <Viden> so it looks like there is no way to update to Evolution 2.22 in Ubuntu 7.10 .. without major pains because it requires a ton of dependencies that are not available in 7.10s apt.... anyone know of a guide to doing this without major hasle
[21:07] <mzuverink> wha is they myhicr channel or good suoort.  I canteen toget mine towor
[21:07] <Rudin_> how can I see a java applet in a web page in Ubuntu 64?
[21:07] <Linux_Fresher> ItchyHobo:  it wasnt in the pkg manager add remove or synaptic .. i ran the command given for ubuntu destro by wine [ was downloading wine]
[21:07] <ubot3> Rudin_: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 384, column 84
[21:07] <infl1ction> im running Ubuntu Ultimate Edition and the splash screen only loads a tiny bit (takes a while) and then goes to a screen where it says "Reading files needed to boot..." and then stays there. any suggestions on what i should do?
[21:07] <Slart> does anyone have a suggestion for a good ftp server with virtual accounts.. preferably some kind of gui setup
[21:08] <Scunizi> Viden, maybe wait until next month for Hardy and then consider compiling the current Evo.. Ubuntu tends to have a couple versions behind the power curve.
[21:08] <Slart> !ftp
[21:08] <ubot3> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[21:08] <Slart> !ftpd
[21:08] <ubot3> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[21:08] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, synaptic/add remove/ apt-get are the same thing... just nice different guis for the three; at the very basic stuff they are all the same; and wine is just a package like other packages out there
[21:08] <Scunizi> !ultimate | infliction
[21:08] <ubot3> infliction: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[21:08] <xb3rt> What does it mean when I try to install a .tar.bz2 and I get the error         gzip: stdin: not in gzip format       Tar: Child returned status 1       Tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[21:08] <Viden> is there a way to install it from teh Hardy repos on 7.10 ?
[21:09] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, oops apt-get doesn't have a gui
[21:09] <zcat[1]> xb3rt: tar option 'z' is for gzip, 'j' is for bzip2
[21:09] <Scunizi> Viden, even hardy isn't 2.22
[21:09] <xb3rt> ok thank you
[21:09] <Viden> scunizi ... uugh .. so far behind other distros .. why is that
[21:09] <Scunizi> Viden, what feature are you looking for that's not there?
[21:09] <hon> when I press ENTER in location bar in nautilus, nothing happens. Is this a bug?
[21:10] <Linux_Fresher> ItchyHobo:  its cool .. it got installed .. no error msgs .. it also made an icon in the start menu :)    [ simple pleasures of life for a nix-n00b]
[21:10] <Viden> scunizi:  a ton of bug fixes to the Exchange connector that cause the current old version to crash constantly
[21:10] <hon> in other words, does the location area work at all?
[21:11] <Scunizi> Viden, maybe it will be available in backports..
[21:11] <zcat[1]> hon: tried typing a new location and pressing neter?
[21:11] <Slart> Viden: packages have to be checked, tested etc before they are released to the masses.. I guess ubuntu would be less stable if they just took the latest and greatest of all apps
[21:11] <jimmygoon> How can I install a newer version of openoffice in ubuntu?
[21:11] <ItchyHobo> Linux_Fresher, when i first started using linux it is good to read the built in help file/ hangout on ubuntu forums and yes the irc.... u will be at ease with ubuntu witin 2 weeks max...
[21:11] <Linux_Fresher> me off to #wine now .. thanks a loads guys .. keep up the good work   ..   [ and DONT say 'Phew !! the n00b -.-  is gone !! ]  :P
[21:11] <Viden> slart .. well obviously, but the version of Evolution on 7.10 is almost a year old ...
[21:12] <Hanz> Anyone know where there is a big delay with my menus when compiz is running ?
[21:12] <Ashnal> Everytime I restart my computer my sound doesnt work. I can usually fix this with fiddling, but this time I have no clue what is wrong
[21:12] <Rudin_> kjhkjh
[21:12] <Gary_inNYC> Hanz does it delay with compiz effects off?
[21:12] <Ashnal> nevermind
[21:12] <Slart> Viden: well.. and 7.10 is what.. 4 months? there are lots of distro's that update continously.. ubuntu doesn't
[21:12] <hon> zcat[1]: oh, sorry. I made a mistake. The location area in file dialog is the one that seems broken.
[21:13] <Rudin_> how can I see a java applet in a web page in Ubunt 64 bits?
[21:13] <Hanz> no and all the other effects run fine
[21:13] <Linux_Fresher> ItchyHobo:  yup .. slowly reading stuff too :)  .. just that my may be 2 hrs of it .. so lots of crap n00b Qs ..and I am so AMAZED that people here solve those so patiently .. i bet if i was a pro, i would gt bugged for sure =/ ... okies me off to #wine
[21:13] <hon> zcat[1]: what happens when you enter an address in location area in a gnome file dialog and then press enter?
[21:13] <Viden> slart ... yeah i guess i will just live with the pain of restarting this think like 40 times a day until the new Ubuntu comes out ... /sigh ... thanks anyway
[21:13] <zcat[1]> hon: enter by itself refreshed the window, anew location I jumps to it.
[21:13] <Slart> Viden: if it's that broken perhaps they will release an updated version in backports.. you have that enabled, right?
[21:14] <Viden> yeah .. nothing available
[21:14] <Viden> wait .. the Hardy backports ?
[21:14] <Wavesonics> any one here think they can help me getting dual heads working on a ATI Radeon 9800 (Open source drivers)?
[21:14] <RainbowOnyx> ohh how i miss my world of warcraft lol
[21:14] <Gary_inNYC> Hanz, it's not whether or not the effects run, but whether a given effect runs well enough as to not delay an aspect of usability
[21:14] <Slart> Viden: no, gutsy backports
[21:14] <Viden> yeah its enabled
[21:14] <Slart> Viden: hmm.. perhaps reporting a bug will get it noticed faster..
[21:14] <hon> zcat[1]: didn't get it. do you mean that when you enter a location and press enter, the file dialog goes to that location?
[21:14] <ToastGuy> geirha: are you here?
[21:15] <Slart> Viden: never done that myself yet.. but I'm sure there's someone here that knows how to do it
[21:15] <zcat[1]> hon: the gnome browser one does, yes
[21:15] <backtracker>  
[21:15] <Viden> slart:  bug was reported and fixed about 4 revisions ago .. thus my desire to update
[21:15] <Gary_inNYC> Hanz, check out some configuration options in Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[21:15] <Les_Caesars> How do I change the icon for an entire file type?
[21:15] <Les_Caesars> or create new file types?
[21:15] <Slart> Viden: or you could compile evolution yourself.. I don't know how complicated it is.. most stuff is pretty easy once you've got the dependencies fixed
[21:15] <Hanz> is the a way to switch the fade on the menus off then?
[21:15] <zcat[1]> hon: not sure about the file dialog in various programs.. not sure if that is a consistend thing or per-program
[21:16] <Hanz> I've had a look and cant fine the option
[21:16] <zcat[1]> Hanz: compizconfig-manager lets you control all the effects
[21:16] <Viden> slart:  yeah compilng isnt a big deal for me, but the reqs are all next version ubuntu file that will probably hose 7.10 if i tryed to install them ... so i will just deal for now
[21:16] <DeanGrobler> Help! does anyone know what I can use to create a blog in ubuntu?
[21:16] <hon> zcat[1]: thanks a lot.
[21:16] <backtracker> Cann0n: there's no content at /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[21:16] <backtracker> is that ok?
[21:17] <Slart> Viden: ouch.. nasty... I've never used evolution myself.. never had to deal with an exchange server.. always used thunderbird
[21:17] <DeanGrobler> Help! does anyone know what I can use to create a blog in ubuntu?
 Yes apache 2 doesn't use that config file
[21:18] <backtracker> DeanGrobler: in what language?
[21:18] <backtracker> solar_george: what config file does it use?
[21:18] <richard__> hi does anyone know how to change the linux boot loader order by default goes to ubuntu first
[21:18] <zcat[1]> I set up outlook to work with exchange server a while back (via exchange's web interface I think) .. It seemed to be more reliable than Outlook, at least the first week. Haven't been in touch with the guy since then tho.
[21:18] <Cann0n> backtracker, no thats not ok.
[21:18] <Ayabara> I have ripped most of my cd collection to flac. To put them on my phone I need to transcode to mp3. What's a good/easy way to do this?
[21:18] <Slart> DeanGrobler: don't repeat your question that often.. once every 5 minutes is enough
[21:19] <DeanGrobler> I am still kinda new so I'm not to sure
[21:19] <arooni> how do i get all the python stuff i need to run on ubuntu gutsy
[21:19] <slipttees> hey ubuntu 6.06.2 lts have still shipit ?
[21:19] <kestir> Ayabara: why are you going to ruin perfectly good flac files by downgrading them to mp3?
[21:19] <backtracker> Cann0n: it is as installed
[21:19] <backtracker> Cann0n: you told me it was going to be ok when apt-getting
 apache2.conf + all the stuff in *-enbled and *-available
[21:19] <Slart> Ayabara: there is something called audio convert.. or something like that.. I can never remember
[21:20] <ArthurArchnix> DeanGrobler: Blogging software is pretty limited in ubuntu. Some people like scribefire  http://www.scribefire.com/
[21:20] <Ayabara> kestir: eh. it's a matter of transcoding to put on a phone, not of replacing flac by mp3...
[21:20] <Ayabara> Slart: ok
[21:20] <RainbowOnyx> anyone run wow in linux?
[21:20] <RainbowOnyx> wow=World Of Warcraft
[21:20] <Slart> RainbowOnyx: yes.. many.. ask in #winehq
[21:20] <Gary_inNYC> i heard it runs in wine
[21:20] <DeanGrobler> Thank you :) I will give it a try
[21:21] <tritium> DeanGrobler: wordpress?
[21:21] <RainbowOnyx> ty vm
[21:21] <tritium> DeanGrobler: try searching for "blog" in the synaptic package manager, and browse through the list it returns
[21:21] <Ayabara> Slart: soundconverter is in the repo. maybe that one :-)
[21:21] <zcat[1]> damn, mplayer seems to have killed my windows decorations
[21:21] <Slart> Ayabara: sounds like a good candidate =)
[21:21] <Slart> !info soundconverter
[21:21] <ubot3> soundconverter: Convert audio files into other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (gutsy), package size 65 kB, installed size 428 kB
[21:21] <tritium> DeanGrobler: or, from the command line: apt-cache search blog
[21:22] <slipttees> Still have to request  ubuntu 6.06.2 lts by the shipit ?
[21:22] <adub> i give up on staroffice the thing wont print right
[21:22] <tritium> slipttees: no, you can download it
[21:22] <adub> im trying to print an envelope in open office writer
 Thats a nice easy to use one - make  sure you have lame installed
[21:22] <adub> can someone help i have my envelope done but its not printing out right
[21:22] <kestir> Ayabara: ahh...well...just do a 'for <var> in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$<var>" | lame -h - "${<var>%.flac}.mp3; done'
[21:22] <slipttees> tritium: ok, thx
[21:22] <tritium> adub: #openoffice.org might be able to help
[21:23] <DeanGrobler> wow thanks tritium
[21:23] <arooni> how do i get all the python stuff i need to run on ubuntu gutsy
[21:23] <kestir> Ayabara: just be sure to install the lame audio codec first
[21:23] <ToastGuy> I'm looking at the source code for a paticular ubuntu application. I'm wondering if it's easy to modify this code and re-install over the application I previously installed?
[21:23] <Les_Caesars> How do I create a new file type?
[21:23] <slipttees> tritium: ubuntu 6.06.3 possible, with other last kernel ? 2.6.24 ?
[21:23] <slipttees> ??
[21:23] <Ayabara> kestir: looks good. thanks :-)
[21:23] <tritium> arooni: you need to be more specific.  A lot of python stuff is already installed by default.
[21:23] <arooni> tritium, to code in python and to use the python imaging library
[21:23] <tritium> slipttees: I don't know.
[21:24] <slipttees> hum
[21:24] <RainbowOnyx> ok question i think is ok here are there any cool "non window type" games for linux without having to use wine. and that are "stable" or at least semi stable?
[21:24] <tritium> arooni: python is installed for you already.  Just install the python-imaging package for the imaging library
[21:25] <zcat[1]> RainbowOnyx: urban terror is pretty good
[21:25] <tritium> arooni, hint: apt-cache search python | grep imaging
[21:25] <RainbowOnyx> it does not come up in my "add / remove" programs
[21:25] <tritium> arooni: that will list some packages you can look into installing.
[21:25] <zcat[1]> RainbowOnyx: unfortunately, no
[21:26] <RainbowOnyx> so is it safe?
[21:26] <zcat[1]> tremulous? (the packaged version is pretty old tho)
[21:26] <zcat[1]> urban terror is quite safe, a bit tricky to install is all
[21:26] <StefanW> RainbowOnyx: Nexuiz
[21:26] <RainbowOnyx> <== 2 day old ubuntu user
[21:27] <StefanW> RainbowOnyx: frozen bubble, chromium
[21:27] <kestir> what is the apt-get command to find out information/description of a package?
[21:27] <zcat[1]> Nexuis / alien arena / open arena are all on add/remove but I find them pretty tedious
[21:27] <tritium> kestir: apt-cache show <packagename>
[21:27] <Alan_M> RainbowOnyx: Any program is actually very safe, its scripts you must watch out for :)
[21:27] <StefanW> RainbowOnyx: all installable via apt-get / synaptic :)
[21:27] <RainbowOnyx> frozen buble i have seen when i add all in add / remove but that semi flash gamy
[21:27] <sureshot> hey new at this,how do i get root access so i can save a test.php file in var/ww dir?
[21:27] <kestir> thanks tritium
[21:28] <Jupp> RainbowOnyx, if you like fps, quake wars is pretty good (closed source)
[21:28] <dgjones> !games | RainbowOnyx, This might be useful to you,
[21:28] <ubot3> RainbowOnyx, This might be useful to you,: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:28] <StefanW> RainbowOnyx: then try Nexuiz - open source FPS
[21:28] <zcat[1]> !sudo | sureshot
[21:28] <ubot3> sureshot: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:28] <StefanW> http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/
[21:28] <vinnetu> hi
[21:28] <RainbowOnyx> thnak you all vm i will look it all up
[21:28] <Alan_M> Nexuiz runs on multiple platforms too RainbowOnyx ;)
[21:28] <Alan_M> Not just linux
[21:29] <sureshot> zcat: what do i type
[21:29] <Alan_M> *hint if you wanna get your friends to play with you*
[21:29] <zcat[1]> most FLOSS games are multi-platform ..
[21:29] <vinnetu> can somebody help me with setup of bluetooth keyboad (ergomedia genius)?
[21:29] <xb3rt> whats a .php and does it work on ubuntu gutsy
[21:29] <zcat[1]> even frozen bubble, the author asked that nobody port it to windows.. they ported it anyhow.. :)
[21:29] <Alan_M> zcat, he put it as OSS?
[21:29] <sureshot> zcat: do i just type !sudo or something more?
[21:30] <zcat[1]> It was oss but he did not approve of windows .. and asked that nobody port it.
[21:30] <ompaul> !offtopic
[21:30] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:30] <Gary_inNYC> RainbowOnyx, I like Tremulous as a good fps
[21:30] <Sl4y3r> !java
[21:30] <ubot3> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[21:30] <zcat[1]> sureshot: open a terminal and type "sudo command to do as root
[21:30] <Cann0n> backtracker, i never said to use apt-getting
[21:30] <Sl4y3r> i cant get java to work in firefox
[21:30] <backtracker> Cann0n: apt-get
[21:30] <Sl4y3r> any suggestions
[21:30] <Wavesonics> in the compiz config settings manager, I'm trying to bind an action to a key, how do i do that?
[21:31] <backtracker> Cann0n: I wrote apt-getting as past
[21:31] <zcat[1]> sureshot: eg sudo cp test.php /var/www/
[21:31] <backtracker> Cann0n: plz
[21:31] <backtracker> xD
[21:31] <sureshot> zcar: oki ty
[21:31] <Cann0n> backtracker, i never use that method.
[21:31] <Alan_M> Who were you offtopicing ompaul?
[21:31] <ompaul> Alan_M, those who are
[21:31] <kestir> like?
[21:31] <zcat[1]> probably me ..
[21:31] <Cann0n> backtracker, i was afk. i never use apt-get or anything along those lines. i always download via web browser
[21:31] <tritium> Alan_M: all the games discussion
[21:31] <Alan_M> zcat, you werent though, surprisingly.
[21:31] <ompaul> all non support stuff
[21:32] <ompaul> and discussion is offtopic
[21:32] <farruinn> Cann0n: through packages.ubuntu.com?
[21:32] <tritium> Cann0n: why do you do that?
[21:32] <Gary_inNYC> Sl4y3r, i have issues with firefox as well... especially with pages such as break.com
[21:32] <Alan_M> thats a bit..broad of a ban on discussion. :/
[21:32] <Cann0n> why do i do what?
[21:32] <xb3rt> I have everything i need for AWN, but now I can't actually find the AWN download
[21:33] <tritium> Cann0n: not use apt-get, and instead download through your browser.
[21:33] <zcat[1]> Alan_M: discussion about how the channel is run are also OT :)
[21:33] <Sl4y3r> it never works
[21:33] <Ayabara> !bluetoooth
[21:33] <ubot3> Factoid bluetoooth not found
[21:33] <GrantMynott> Hello, i need help again :(. How can i change my screen resolution to 1400 * 900. I've tried it in System -> Preferences but its not an option
[21:33] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt, check out this link to install AWN:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[21:33] <ompaul> !bluetooth
[21:33] <ubot3> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[21:33] <Cann0n> tritium, you are telling me u never download anything via web browser?
[21:33] <ompaul> Ayabara, ^^
[21:34] <tritium> Cann0n: correct
[21:34] <ompaul> Cann0n, the easier  way to install materials on ubuntu is to use apt-get or synaptic -
[21:34] <bastid_raZor> Cann0n; i have never used a browser for updates to ubuntu.. apt-get or aptitude
[21:34] <Sl4y3r> anyone?
[21:34] <eguzkia> hello someone can call with skype to luca_blln75?
[21:34] <quaal> why is it that new files in ubuntu are not created with the permissions i have set in umask.
[21:34] <RainbowOnyx> i did try a fps the other day and it worked great but when "time" in zone ended it minimised and frozen my system i could no get anything to free it up
[21:35] <RainbowOnyx> was a quake "port thing
[21:35] <Cann0n> ompaul, there are many ways to download things in linux...
[21:35] <RainbowOnyx> at least add /remove said so lo
[21:35] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt you check that out yet?
[21:35] <Cann0n> bastid_raZor, im not talking about updating ubuntu
[21:35] <tritium> Cann0n: to use the browser doesn't take advantage of apt-get/aptitude/synaptic's dependency handling, etc.
[21:35] <Cann0n> someone thought i told them to install apache via get-apt, when i didnt tell them that.
[21:36] <zcat[1]> let me know when you can install urban terror, padman, stepmania, alice, scratch .. via apt
[21:36] <bastid_raZor> Cann0n; well for that matter.. installing any app in ubuntu
[21:36] <jordioriol> what program should I use in hardy to transfer music to my iPod?
[21:36] <tritium> Cann0n: apache *should* be installed via apt-get
[21:36]  * Alan_M looks around
[21:36] <Sjimmie>  jordioriol amarok
[21:36] <Sjimmie> it's for KDE but works under GNOME aswell
[21:36] <jordioriol> Sjimmie, thanks
[21:36] <Cann0n> tritium, not if you want to compile it yourself. ubuntu isn't the only version of linux.
[21:36] <quaal> For gnome to tale into account settings you must create in your home directory a file called ".gnomerc" and put the umask command in it.
[21:36] <quaal> Of course you can also use any other shell command.
[21:36] <quaal> Nautilus, etc... will now use the new value (after re-login of course)
[21:36] <quaal> is this true
[21:37] <Sl4y3r> hello
[21:37] <Sjimmie> alternatively -> gtkpod
[21:37] <Sl4y3r> java help please
[21:37] <Cann0n> ya'll leave me alone. i dont use get-apt to install things... may things aren't on get-apt.
[21:37] <tritium> Cann0n: I never said it was.  There are source packages as well, that are also apt-gettable
[21:37] <A86> hello everyone
[21:37] <A86> no luck with wine far cry
[21:37] <Cann0n> tritium, and that is what i mean. source packs. you know make, make install... ./configure. i dont use get-apt to download those
[21:38] <tritium> Cann0n: no, I'm suggesting: apt-get source apache2, for example
[21:38] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: as a general rule, it's a good idea to do as much as possible via apt, that keeps dependencies and future updates all sorted out for you..
[21:38] <RainbowOnyx> in windows i used xillo soft dvd ripper to back my movies up it was an all in one thing ....1 click done thing....is there something link that for linux beause i have used dvd::ripbut it is rather confusing and does not give me at least from what i can see options for the divx codec
[21:38] <exerdigit> hey guys, quick question... when i am in nautilus and play mp3s from a directory individually, it eventually locks up and tells me i have too many files open. but even if i close each file when i am done playing the song, it still happens.. any way around this?
[21:38] <GrantMynott> How can i set my screen resolution to 1400 * 900. Its not in the options on the System -> Preferences bit
[21:38] <zcat[1]> RainbowOnyx: k9copy !!
[21:38] <Cann0n> tritium, and i was suggesting to the person who asked about apache to check out #apache or goign to the website and do things their way.
[21:38] <RainbowOnyx> ty will look it up
[21:38] <ompaul> !resolution | GrantMynott
[21:38] <ubot3> GrantMynott: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:39] <lwizardl> hi
[21:39] <adub> my printer does not have an option for envelop 10
[21:39] <adub> envelope
[21:39] <tritium> Cann0n: again, the preferred and suggested method is to use the package repositories.  That's what they're for.
[21:39] <kestir> Cann0n: I suggest reading about with what was in mind when ubuntu was created
[21:39] <zcat[1]> evel vlc can rip and transcode dvd's .. but that's a bit trickier
[21:39] <zcat[1]> *even
[21:39] <GrantMynott> I've tried that ompaul
[21:39] <ompaul> Cann0n, you don't need to - if you are that level then looking for help in this channel is not really on your agenda ;-) and we don't support those methods
[21:39] <lwizardl> is it possible to password protect a external drive
[21:39] <lwizardl> ?
[21:39] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: I think you might be happier in gentoo or slackware :)
[21:40] <xb3rt> Gary_inNYC: i have it installed into my system menu now, but when I click the manager to load it, nothing happens
[21:40] <Cann0n> zcat[1], im from 6 years experience in slackware
[21:40] <kestir> Cann0n: ubuntu uses repositories to store packages they have tested and approve of...to install only those stable packages ubuntu has their stamp of approval on, you use apt-get
[21:40] <RainbowOnyx> VLC?
[21:40] <amortvigil> how can i see wich gtk i use?
[21:40] <Cann0n> im not a linux noob. each user has their own way of doing things. i dont like people dogging me cuz i PREFER NOT to use get-apt
[21:40] <RainbowOnyx> cause vlc is my fav player
[21:40] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: ubuntu is not slackware ..
[21:40] <RainbowOnyx> even in windows
[21:40] <Sl4y3r> anyone now why my java would not work
[21:40] <Sl4y3r> ?
 Do you need to be able to use this on windows
[21:40] <Sl4y3r> !java
[21:40] <ubot3> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[21:40] <kestir> Cann0n: then you should understand how different ditros use packages and how they manage them
[21:40] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt: go to applications, accessories, avant window navigator
[21:40] <bastid_raZor> GrantMynott; possibly try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select that resolution when that option comes around.. normally though if it isn't listed already your monitor or video don't support it
[21:40] <tritium> Cann0n: that's fine, but please don't tell othere here to _not_ use the repositories.
[21:40] <lwizardl> solar_george, no going to be used from ubuntu & mythtv only
[21:40] <Cann0n> kestir, debian packages are supported in ubuntu why?
[21:41] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt, the manager is the "preferences" for AWN
[21:41] <xb3rt> Gary_inNYC how do i get rid of the windows looking window bar
[21:41] <ompaul> Cann0n, they are not
[21:41] <kestir> Cann0n: wrong
[21:41] <ompaul> Cann0n, the abi may be broken
[21:41] <Cann0n> tritium, i was correcting him. he said I told him to do it. i told him to go to apache chat or website for apache help.
[21:41] <zcat[1]> Cann0n: coincidence .. ubuntu doesn't aim to be binary-compatable with debian but sometimes it just is
 you could try encfs  that encrypts a directory
[21:41] <kestir> ompaul: I smell a troll
[21:41] <RainbowOnyx> i know a ditros is a "release" i guess of linux but what does the name mean? anything cool?
[21:41] <ompaul> Cann0n, please drop the subject
[21:41] <nickrud> kestir: +1
[21:41] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt, i take it you want to get rid of the gnome taskbar on the bottom am  i correct?
[21:42] <Cann0n> me drop the subject, read up ompaul i asked ya'll to leave me along 3 scrolls up
[21:42] <Les_Caesars> How do I change the icon of a whole file type?
[21:42] <xb3rt> Gary yes
[21:42] <Cann0n> i do things my way, you do yours.
[21:42] <Gary_inNYC> xb3rt, right click the bar at the bottom, and hit delete panel
[21:42] <geekstorm> can someone help or point me in the right direction for configuring bugzilla with ubuntu 7.10?
[21:42] <lwizardl> solar_george, but how would that work in mythtv?
[21:42] <tritium> Cann0n: you're missing the point.  For support purposes, we don't tell people to go compile apache themselves.  We tell them to use the packages in the repositories.
[21:42] <xb3rt> Gary: you the man :)
[21:42] <achandrashekar> how do i install xmms on ubuntu?
[21:43] <Gary_inNYC> np, glad to help
[21:43] <tritium> Futher, there is no nick "ya'all" in this channel.
[21:43] <Cann0n> tritium, i didnt tell him to compile his own. i told him to go to #apache or check out the website for configuration support.
 ah you would have to mount the encfs from a command line then access a directory
[21:43] <gregbrady> What is the best way to send a large file, 300 MB, between two computers over the internet?  I'd like to do it via a chat program, or something simple like that.
[21:43] <zcat[1]> achandrashekar: go to add/remove programs, find xmms, tick the box, clock ok/apply (whatever) and wait
[21:43] <zcat[1]> *click
[21:43] <Alan_M> !best way | gregbrady
[21:43] <ubot3> Factoid best way not found
[21:43] <Cann0n> OR if you wanted to get real technical, dont use ubuntu-desktop for a server... install Ubuntu-Server
[21:44] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; scp would work if both have ssh installed..
[21:44] <RainbowOnyx> xmms i found in the add / remove  option
[21:44] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: I'd use scp.. ymmv
 don't know if mythtv can do anything like that from the front end
[21:44] <Sl4y3r> anyone now why my java would not work
[21:44] <tsmithe> Cann0n, fyi, it's "apt-get". and please don't use packages from unverified sources when there are supported packages in the repositories.
[21:45] <gregbrady> One machine is pclos, the other ubuntu....will scp still work on both?
[21:45] <stevendemorez> hiya all anyone use puredata in here?
[21:45] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: you could also install apache2, drop the file in /var/www and the other person can download it with firefox
[21:45] <RainbowOnyx> i wish that steamtuner edited commercials and what not
[21:45] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; just make sure both have openssh installed.. then you're good to go
[21:45] <Cit> hello all, I am in some deep crap and would really appreicate some help, are there any ext3 filesystem experts around?  I have a copy gone wrong that has left me without the source files, but the free space on the drive hasn't changed and I need to recover the data
[21:45] <RainbowOnyx> oh...is this a channel that its ok to make comment? ot is this a 100% q&a?
[21:45] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: PClos will have ssh .. one of the machines needs sshd .. in ubuntu apt-get install ssh will give you the server (sshd)
[21:46] <bert_> #ubuntu-mobile
[21:46] <Cann0n> !ot tsmithe
[21:46] <ubot3> Factoid ot tsmithe not found
[21:46] <Alan_M> 100+% q/a
[21:46] <quaal> is umask supposed to control the permissions of new files or not
[21:46] <RainbowOnyx> ok ty
[21:46] <gregbrady> zcat[1], thanks, let me check that out.
[21:46] <ghetto[kernel]> how can i update Xorg?
[21:46] <ompaul> Cann0n, ehh please drop it - and ANYONE ELSE who considers commenting to Cann0n please drop it also
[21:46] <norty> Question: I am trying to ssh into a computer running ubuntu 7.10 from a computer running windows xp, I have openssh-server installed on the ubuntu computer and I am using putty on windows, I put in the ip address of the ubuntu computer and I get a network error from putty. Do I have to configure openssh-server at all? what is going wrong?
[21:46] <bastid_raZor> RainbowOnyx; feel free to express yourself in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:47] <tsmithe> Cit, ext3 deletes file handles, so you'll have a hard time, unless you can remember the location on disk of the files. alternatively, you can dump a disc image and grep through it
[21:47] <RainbowOnyx> thank you bastid_raZor
[21:47] <bastid_raZor> norty; you'll need putty to do that from the windows side
[21:47] <Cann0n> yeah i told ya'll to leave me alone. take it to off-topic if you want to keep bashing me.
[21:47] <lwizardl> I'm trying to do this maybe someone here knows of a way. I have a 160gb usb drive currently its ext3 partitioned. I want to make this drive require a password before i will be mounted onto a system (does not need to be readable on windows)
[21:47] <Cit> tsmithe: location as in path?  yes, I can remeber that...
[21:47] <Alan_M> !stop | cann0n
[21:47] <ubot3> cann0n: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[21:47] <bastid_raZor> norty; heh, guess i shoudl finish reading your post..
[21:47] <Alan_M> oops
[21:47] <gregbrady> zcat[1] sorry I'm so inexperienced here, but how do I use this sharing once ssh is installed?
[21:47] <quaal> is umask supposed to control the permissions of new files or not
[21:48] <zcat[1]> norty: can you ping the linux box from windows? can you "ssh localhost" and connect to the linux box from the linux box?
[21:48] <bert_> hi, I'm trying to get onto ubuntu mobile (installed the packages) but it doesn't seem to work
[21:48] <Sl4y3r> anyone now why my java would not work
[21:48] <geekstorm> Can anyone here help me with bugzilla configuration, or point me to the proper resource??
[21:48] <bert_> can someone help me with that ?
[21:48] <ghetto[kernel]> hi how can i update XORG?
[21:48] <bastid_raZor> norty; some isp's block port 22 and 23.. possibly that is the case?
[21:48] <Gary_inNYC> Sl4y3r did you install java from the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" metapackage?
[21:48] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: man scp .. typically just like cp except one of the filenames is in the form user@host:/path/filename
[21:48] <bastid_raZor> norty; are you behind a router on either machine?
[21:48] <Sl4y3r> yes
[21:49] <norty> yes im behind a router on both
[21:49] <Sl4y3r> tried that and manually installing
[21:49] <norty> bastid_raZor, yes both are behind a router
[21:49] <gregbrady> zcat[1], sorry you lost me totally.....I'm a simple person....
[21:49] <zcat[1]> norty: did you forward port 22 "pinhole" through the router
[21:49] <sureshot> i try and change permission to a user from meny admin user settings but cant find Executing system administration tasks
[21:49] <tsmithe> Cit, no, as in a sector on disc. i read a blog article about it the other day, but i've lost the link
[21:49] <Gary_inNYC> which version of Java are you running?
[21:49] <norty> bastid_raZor, I can access the ubuntu computer through another computer connected to the network, would i still need to forward the port if this is the case?
[21:50] <Gary_inNYC> i mean the Java Runtime that is
[21:50] <marto> when I powered up normally I get grub 'error18' I am booting from a live CD at the moment
[21:50] <Sl4y3r> 6.0
[21:50] <sureshot> zcat: i also tryied !sudo but it only restarted apache, how come?
[21:50] <bert_> has anyone here go any experience with ubuntu mobile ???
[21:50] <Sl4y3r> i believe
[21:50] <Cit> tsmithe: it was 160GB of data ...
[21:50] <tsmithe> erm, Cit, alternatively, are any files open that still have reference to the lost files?
[21:50] <bastid_raZor> norty; what is the error putty gives you?
[21:50] <tsmithe> Cit, :s
[21:50] <zcat[1]> afkbrb
[21:50] <norty> bastid_raZor, It just says Network error
[21:50] <Cit> tsmithe: no, it was a vmware image of an sbs box, with the vm powered down
[21:51] <norty> bastid_raZor, Network error: connectiong refused
[21:51] <quaal> is umask supposed to control the permissions of new files or not
[21:51] <Gary_inNYC> in firefox, did you check that both Java & Javascript are enabled?
[21:51] <Cit> tsmithe: although VMware is still open but obviously it can't launch the machine
[21:51] <bastid_raZor> norty; are they all on a LAN or outside of the network?
[21:51] <issam> is there any free software like adobe flash ????????????????????????
[21:51] <norty> bastid_raZor, the one I need to get working is outside the network
[21:51] <sureshot> how do i do so i can get permission to save file
[21:51] <Cit> how can I reboot and tell fsck to do an unattended check? (remote machine)
[21:51] <ghetto[kernel]> how can i update Xorg?
[21:51] <tsmithe> Cit, how did you lose the file? (i'm not sure about the force-fsck. i think you create a /forcefsck file, but i'm not sure)
[21:52] <Gary_inNYC> Sl4y3r, for me I got java and various plugins and codecs running from the restricted extras metapackage, although performance in certain pages like break.com is spotty
[21:52] <Achoth> ghetto[kernel]: How do you mean?
[21:52] <gregbrady> zcat[1], no worries, I'll use a dvd and sneakernet.
[21:52] <bastid_raZor> norty; the ubuntu computer is outside the network and has been connected to by another box?
[21:52] <e1> hi has anyone got a working ALi Corporation M5455 sound card?
[21:52] <issam> is there any free software like adobe flash ????????????????????????
[21:52] <Gary_inNYC> webpages heavy in flash are pretty bad as well
[21:52] <Alan_M> !sound | e1
[21:52] <ubot3> e1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:52] <Sl4y3r> i tired the ones in restricted area
[21:52] <tsmithe> Cit, check out http://spacebeast.com/blog/2008/01/04/undelete-on-ext3-maybe/
[21:52] <zcat[1]> back
[21:52] <Alan_M> !repeat | issam
[21:52] <ubot3> issam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:52] <Starnestommy> issam: gnash?
[21:52] <norty> bastid_raZor, the ubuntu computer is my home computer which is behind a router, I want to be able to ssh into it while im at school to get files
[21:53] <e1> I've been thru the trouble shooting guide
[21:53] <zcat[1]> norty: you need fo forward port 22 from the router to the linux box
[21:53] <e1> + installed codecs
[21:53] <tibbe> I'm trying to use runit on my ubuntu server install, how can I install and have it started automatically?
[21:53] <issam> ok thanks
[21:53] <Alan_M> Oh, ok, just going through basics because i didnt know where you started :)
[21:53] <kestir> well issam's negative behavior got him noticed and got his answer
[21:53] <bastid_raZor> norty; possibly your school is blocking port 22.. i know my isp blocks 22 so i have to forward 22 to another port.
[21:53] <genii> issam: There is also a linux version of Adobe Flash
[21:53] <bardyr> how can i make dd read from a file and write it to the end of another file?
[21:54] <ghetto[kernel]> Achoth, xorg dont recognize my monitor so i want to update it to see if in the new release they added it
[21:54] <Y-Town> ANyone have any input on what runs better on Kubuntu/Ubuntu of either VM Ware or Virtual Box?  I need to install one of them on a server
[21:54] <Starnestommy> the only problem with gnash is it still is very buggy
[21:54] <bardyr> Y-Town, i have no problems with Virtualnox
[21:54] <bardyr> box*
[21:54] <kestir> Y-Town: VMWare is the better software, imo
[21:54] <Wavesonics> in key mapping, there is "Key" and "Button" what is button?
[21:54] <agent> seconded on the gnash bugosity
[21:54] <Gary_inNYC> Y-Town i've had decent results with Virtualbox
[21:54] <Wavesonics> and how do i set it?
[21:54] <kestir> as you can see, it's a matter of prefernce
[21:55] <Y-Town> :o)
[21:55] <issam> thanks !!!
[21:55] <zcat[1]> I tried gnash once.. couldn't do even the most simple flash stuff with it, went back to adobe flash.. perhaps in a year it will be useable, but not yet..
[21:55] <Y-Town> kestir: very much so
[21:55] <Alan_M> zcat, its semi-usable now if you do the fix from the ubuntu forums.
[21:55] <sureshot> i try and type in terminal sudo adduser $user admin to get permission to save file test.php  in www dir but it says im already member of admin, why cant i save the file
[21:55] <gregbrady> so there is no easy way to share large files over the net then.....just an assumption here.
[21:56] <Alan_M> gregbrady, how large are you meaning?
[21:56] <sureshot> anyone can help?
[21:56] <zcat[1]> Alan_M: my kids play on gaia and stuff, it has to be really good or they'll whine at me.
[21:56] <Y-Town> kestir: would yopu say VM Ware is stable to run 24/7 for a critical business application?
[21:56] <RainbowOnyx> adobe flash as in a wine thing or does macro...err adobe have a linux version?
[21:56] <gregbrady> alan_m 300-400 MB
[21:56] <sureshot> zcat : it doesnt work:(
[21:56] <zcat[1]> adobe make a linux version of flash
[21:56] <Alan_M> wow..um..gregbrady im not sure then bud
[21:56] <Rudin_> how can I see a java applet in a web page in Ubunt u 64 bits?
[21:56] <bastid_raZor> norty; possibly change the port in your windows(school box) to port 2222 and forward 2222 to 22 in your router.
[21:57] <gregbrady> alan_m, today that is not big
[21:57] <Starnestommy> sureshot: are you using the editor with sudo?
[21:57] <geekstorm> How can I force a webpage to ask for a password before any access in apache2?  I've tried .htaccess and generated a .htpasswd file, still no luck.
[21:57] <kestir> Y-Town: yes, i use it in a production environment daily
[21:57] <norty> bastid_raZor, how do I forward port 2222 to 22 in my router?
[21:57] <RainbowOnyx> nice thank you
[21:57] <swirsky> greetings
[21:57] <zcat[1]> sureshot: holding three conversations here.. what doesn't work?
[21:57] <Y-Town> kestir: thanks
[21:57] <bastid_raZor> norty; that would get around the blockage if your school is blocking port 22.. which i would think they are.
[21:57] <Cit> tsmithe: I don't nknow why it's missing, I did a cp -r , got errors from the destination, then the files disappeared from the source (I know it shouldn't do anything but it bloody well has!)
[21:57] <norty> bastid_raZor, I can open ports in my router, i dont know how to forward though
[21:57] <Gary_inNYC> an odd thing about Virtualbox is that in fullscreen mode, it doesn't (stretch) to fill up the screen.
[21:57] <bastid_raZor> norty; what type of router do you have?
[21:57] <sureshot> Starnes: how do you mean using the editor with sudo?
[21:57] <primero> quit
[21:58] <Starnestommy> sureshot: what command are you running to edit that file?
[21:58] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: most schools forward www through a proxy (and dansdguardian) and block everything else..
[21:58] <kestir> Y-Town: lots of people are moving to virtualization of servers now instead of physical machines
[21:58] <norty> bastid_raZor, linksys wireless-G
[21:58] <swirsky> when will the cacti package be updated to 0.8.6k from 0.8.6.j to deal with the latest vulnerability?
[21:58] <quaal> is umask supposed to control the permissions of new files or not
[21:58] <kestir> Y-Town: so it's very much a dependable solution
[21:58] <zcat[1]> s/most/at least some
[21:58] <Gary_inNYC> another thing that bothered me about Virtualbox was that usb devices like my Zen Vision M behaved awkwardly since the usb  bus was being shared by the host and virtual system
[21:59] <Y-Town> kestir: nice to hear.  I have a customer database management software I use for my business that is Microshaft dependant
[21:59] <bastid_raZor> norty; model #?
[21:59] <sureshot> starnes: im new to this, i just tried to save it into www directory and it said i didnt have permission
[21:59] <Wavesonics> I cant bind keys in CCSM :( im retarded
[21:59] <sureshot> starnees: then in terminal i wrote sudo adduser $user admin
[21:59] <kestir> Y-Town: shouldn't be a problem.  For example, I have a centos machine running vmware with an ms server 2003 machine running
[21:59] <zcat[1]> sureshot: sudo nano /var/www/test.php  might help
[21:59] <stevendemorez> is there anyway to make it so anything I activate in the desktop menu is run as root?
[21:59] <stevendemorez> single user mode I think it's called
[22:00] <quaal> is umask supposed to control the permissions of new files or not
[22:00] <tritium> stevendemorez: that would not be wise
[22:00] <Starnestommy> sureshot: try running "gksudo nautilus &" then try again with the nautilus window that opens
[22:00] <zcat[1]> quaal: I thought so.. is it not working?
[22:00] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]; true.. in which case not much can get out unless you find a port open.. which if the IT is good you won't
[22:00] <kestir> Y-Town: on which nearly all of my client's mission critical stuff is running
[22:00] <issam> do you know any software to call for free ???
[22:00] <quaal> zcat[1], no it doesnt seem to be working. i have umask 0002 when files are created with 644 permissions. they should be 775
[22:00] <sureshot> zcat: cant i get permissions to do all things with that account?
[22:00] <stevendemorez> >tritium could you tell me how to edit my menu so it runs particular programs as root?
[22:01] <stevendemorez> I just need one to do so so I can receive the hid data from objects
[22:01] <tritium> stevendemorez: no, I'd not advise that
[22:01] <kestir> Y-Town: so...have no fear, you can trust it fully
[22:01] <zcat[1]> sureshot: more or less..
[22:01] <Y-Town> kestir: is it possible to do remote login to the system running within vm ware?
[22:01] <kestir> Y-Town: yes...what I do is install Logmein on the ms machine
[22:02] <Y-Town> kestir: Perfect... thats how I do it now  :o)
[22:02] <kestir> Y-Town: yep...then just putty to the linux side if you need to
[22:02] <gregbrady> anyone else with an easy way to transport a 300 MB file between two Linux machines over the net?
[22:02] <Starnestommy> gregbrady: scp?
[22:02] <kestir> gregbrady: rsync
[22:02] <jourdan> sureshot: didn't see if somebody responded, but is admin supposed to be the group? options need to come before username
[22:03] <adub> i am trying to figure out why my printer does not have a envelope 10 option when i change the print settings from letter to something else i need to print a envelope 10 envelope??
[22:03] <ceej> hey all
[22:03] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: I saw once a technique to tunnel IP through DNS requests .. not very efficient, but very good at getting around firewalls :)
[22:03] <Y-Town> kestir: thanks bud :o)
[22:03] <stevendemorez> >tritium aside from the inherent risk of me mangling my machine by say deleting something or editing my xorg improper what are the risks
[22:03] <kestir> Y-Town: No problem at all man
[22:03] <onefunk> hello
[22:03] <crackhead25> hi what's the commandline to run a gnome program with sudo credentials, like kdesu does in kde???????
[22:03] <gregbrady> Starnestommy: I have no idea how to use scp....it has to be simple on both the sending and receiving ends....
[22:03] <ceej> How do i make it so i can create dirs through the UI in ubuntu 7.10 do i need to change all the dirs owners from root to my username ?
[22:03] <Starnestommy> crackhead25: gksudo
[22:03] <onefunk> how do i install new hardware? is there a gui for auto detect and such
[22:03] <quaal> could someone please tell me what the function of umask is? i thought it changed the permissions of newly created files. this does not seem to be the case. my umask is 0002. this means that new files should have 775 permissions. but when i touch a file it has 664. when i unrar files they have 644. what is the deal
[22:03] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; you don't like the scp idea?
[22:04] <kestir> gregbrady: scp is simple
[22:04] <Gary_inNYC> crackhead25: gksudo
[22:04] <kestir> gregbrady: scp file remote.machine.ip
[22:04] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; you can't get anymore simple than scp
[22:04] <ceej> I want to be able to like edit files in /usr/lib dirs
[22:04] <crackhead25> Gary_inNYC: why does adept not work in ubuntu?
[22:04] <crackhead25> what is the ismilar program?
[22:04] <zcat[1]> kestir: you left off :
[22:04] <gregbrady> ok, let me try!
[22:04] <Starnestommy> crackhead25: synaptic?
[22:04] <kestir> zcat[1]: oh right! :)
[22:04] <Gary_inNYC> crackhead25:  does synaptic work?
[22:04] <sureshot> zcat: i tried both in adminstrative meny to check Executing system administration tasks but it wasnt there to find and terminal said that my user already was a part of member
[22:04] <gregbrady> but, what if the remote is behind a firewall?
[22:05] <gregbrady> And I'm behind a router/firewall?
[22:05] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: if you have a login with the same name on the remove machine, scp file_here ip.add.re.ss:
[22:05] <Kraln> elnetd: All network ports in use. <- any idea how to fix?
[22:05] <Kraln> that's telnetd*
[22:05] <sureshot> jourdan, what option do you mean?
[22:05] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; for example you are in the directory of the file you want to send .. scp filename(300megsbig) username@hostIP:~/   .. that will put it in the usernames home directory
[22:06] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: ahh, if you're both behine firewalls or NAT, you are going to need to pinhole on end or the other.... or find a file storage site you can use
[22:06] <Bax> when I try to switch users on feisty 7.04, my screen goes black and I have to restart the computer manually.  I can only switch users by log out, then logging in as a different user.  Anybody know what's wrong with the switch user option?
[22:06] <gregbrady> zcat[1], ok, then it is too complicated for a schmo like me then.
[22:06] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: mailing a CD is pretty reliable :)
[22:06] <quaal> could someone please tell me what the function of umask is? i thought it changed the permissions of newly created files. this does not seem to be the case. my umask is 0002. this means that new files should have 775 permissions. but when i touch a file it has 664. when i unrar files they have 644. what is the deal
[22:07] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]; heh,that is funny
[22:07] <jourdan> sureshot: you typed "adduser $user admin" iirc, if you wanted to add a user to the admin group you would put that in with a flag before the username, unless i'm misunderstanding what you were asking
[22:07] <gregbrady> zcat[1], yeah, I'm getting that idea now.....
[22:07] <zcat[1]> funny, perhaps. Practical, absolutely.
[22:07] <crackhead25> anybody know a program for gutsy that one should use to import cellphone contacts via bluetooth (from a cellphone with bluetooth)????
[22:07] <kestir> gregbrady: just upload it to some filestorage website
[22:07] <gregbrady> zcat[1] I'm not sure about the funny part though....
[22:08] <issam> do you know any software to call for free ???
[22:08] <Bax> also, someone used the "sudo chown -R [username]. *" and "sudo chown -R [username]. ." on the home folder, but inadvertently locked me out of my account.  How can I undo this command and get back to my account?
[22:08] <zcat[1]> you could both get on irc and dcc it I think .. even with both behind firewalls?
[22:08] <gregbrady> kestir, I thought it would be easier tody.....not a problem though
[22:08] <bastid_raZor> Bax; you'll need to be able to use sudo
[22:08] <Gary_inNYC> crackhead25: yeah, use Bitpim
[22:09] <Gary_inNYC> oops i may be mistaken
[22:09] <Starnestommy> Bax: sudo chown -R username * and sudo chown -R username .
[22:09] <zcat[1]> does dcc woth if both users are behind NAT?
[22:09] <zcat[1]> *work
[22:09] <Bax> bastid_raZor: I can use sudo for now
[22:09] <crackhead25> Gary_inNYC: confused about bitpim?????
[22:09] <bastid_raZor> Bax; do Starnestommy's fix.. that will give you permissions back
[22:10] <Saeros> Hey, anyone able to help me with a problem im having with tilda? I currently use Devilspie to run a terminal on my desktop, but when i open tilde, it goes behind it
[22:10] <Bax> Starnestommy and bastid_raZor: the same command but without "."?  or you're suggesting I use my own user name this time?
[22:10] <Gary_inNYC> crackhead25: i can only tell you things from personal experience.  i connect my phone through a serial-usb adapter
[22:10] <Gary_inNYC> not sure about bluetooth sry
[22:10] <Starnestommy> Bax: with your own user name
[22:10] <bastid_raZor> Bax; heh.. if you want ownership use your username
[22:11] <crackhead25> Anybody have recommendation for a good Gutsy program to use via bluetooth to import my contacts from a simple motorola bluetooth-enabled cellphone????
[22:11] <sureshot> jourdan; oki you mean by flag,   the $ before my username?
[22:11] <Bax> Starnestommy and bastid_raZor: will the home user still be able to log on?
[22:11] <Starnestommy> Bax: if you do this correctly, it should be able to log on
[22:12] <genii> quaal: umask 0002 subtracted from default perms of host dir of 6666 gives 6664   if default perm there is 7777 then would be 7775 as you expected
[22:12] <sn8perr> ps3gen.fr
[22:12] <sn8perr> oups
[22:12] <Bax> Starnestommy: but both users, me and the home user, will still be able to log on right?  Also, can this command be reversed?
[22:12] <quaal> genii, hmm. so umask doesnt make the new files 775 no matter what?
[22:12] <gregbrady> I tried to setup a VNC once.....holy cow, what a nightmare.....just no easy solutions.
[22:12] <lilg111111_> youtube video will not play in gusty
[22:13] <zcat[1]> brb testing some session changes
[22:13] <Starnestommy> Bax: it should, and yes
[22:13] <quaal> genii, this doesnt make sense to me. how do i set it so that all files have 775 permissions?
[22:13] <lilg111111_> cant play streaming audio or video in gusty
[22:13] <Bax> Starnestommy: what's the reverse command?
[22:13] <genii> quaal: No, umask is subtracted from permissions of directory they are made in. If you want 775 then chmod 7777 the host directory
[22:14] <adub> I do not have a #10 envelope option for my printer
[22:14] <bastid_raZor> Bax; i think i see what you're saying.. home itself isn't the problem then.. your username inside home is..
[22:14] <Starnestommy> Bax: I'm not sure, but it can be undone if you know what it was previously set to
[22:14] <Bax> Starnestommy: the person you mean?  the username used?
[22:14] <xb3rt> I just unpacked a new login splash screen, but where do I go to unpack it at
[22:15] <Bax> bastid_raZor: yep
[22:15] <quaal> genii, but i dont want the host directory to have 7777
[22:15] <xb3rt> i mean where do i go to install it
[22:16] <lilg111111_> xb3rt system - preferences- login window - local
[22:16] <sureshot> man nothings working
[22:16] <bastid_raZor> Bax; then just change your username directory.. if Bax is your username then just change permissions and ownership of that directory..
[22:16] <genii> quaal: Then umask is not the proper method to do what you require in this case. Perhaps hard set the directory to 750 or so and make ppl who can write there in the group which it belongs to (unless root or so)
[22:17] <bastid_raZor> Bax; my home is owned by root my username(my user account) is owned by me
[22:17] <onefunk> how do i install new hardware on an Ubuntu OS
[22:17] <sureshot> i tried sudo nano /var/www/test.php how do i get commands to work below the ^X wont work
[22:18] <lilg111111_> cant play streaming audio or video in gusty
[22:18] <quaal> lilg111111_, its gutsy.
[22:18] <Cit> tsmithe: thanks
[22:18] <lilg111111_> quaal, yes
[22:19] <jourdan> sureshot: i may just not understand what you are trying to do.  Are you just trying to add a new user?
[22:19] <quaal> and give more info than that.
[22:19] <gregbrady> ok, so the final verdict is no easy way and sneakernet is the best.
[22:19] <Bax> Starnestommy and bastid_raZor: it seems the directory that each username is fighting over is .dmre.  Could I just say "sudo chown -R username .dmre" instead of *?
[22:19] <chis> penti
[22:19] <Starnestommy> Bax: try that
[22:19] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; i transfer about 2 gig a week via scp.. it is beyond simple
[22:20] <lilg111111_> quaal, i am running gusty and i have just about every codec i could find installed
[22:20] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, not behind firewalls.
[22:20] <quaal> GUTSY
[22:20] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; i've port forwarded my way out.. and yes i transfer from DC to kentucky nearly every day
[22:21] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, remember I said easy....for the average user.
[22:21] <pcassiano> Hello everybody! What's happen? I'm using Ubuntu in a Virtual Machine; Sometimes it lost the setup values, and I need to turn off the guest Operating System, restart the host system and turn on the guest Operating System again, in order to have the setup values working... What's happen??
[22:21] <sureshot> jourdan: i just installed unbutu and want to set up apache and mysql to get a webserver to run and i tried with texteditor to save a php-file to www directory but it said i dont have permission,so how do i get permission?
[22:22] <zcat[1]> mplayer -rootwin plays 'behind' gnome's wallpaper or background color. Is there any way I can set a video as my desktop?
[22:22] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; i guess i'm an advanced user since i know how to port forward and scp.. i'm not trying to be smart.. just knowing simple networking and beginner *nix commands
[22:23] <zcat[1]> there's a website 'portforward.com' or something that explains how to forward ports for just about every router made..
[22:23] <quaal> genii, this is the problem. umask has successfully changed the settings for new created folders. they have 775 permissions. the files within these 775 folders are not correct. they have 644 instead.
[22:23] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, no problem.....I'm afraid that I cannot explain to my wife, or myself,how to do that.
[22:23] <constantin> ;o
[22:23] <quaal> genii, is there a special umask for new created files?
[22:23] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; now you're being funny.. my wife is /still/ mad at me for getting rid of her precious windows
[22:24] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, we are two computer users, not administrators....simple....
[22:24] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, so is my son!
[22:24] <FreakGuard> got a bunch of jpg to join in a pdf. how to do it the easiest way?
[22:24] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; i soothed her by installing vmware and giving her a little bit of M$ with no internet access
[22:24] <genii> quaal: Use fmask for files
[22:25] <quaal> genii, so i dont think it makes sense that umask subtracts from the permissions of the parent directory. my parent dirs are 775 and the files are being made 644. umask 0002
[22:25] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: my wife is used to ubuntu now and hates windows (and she hasn't even seen vista yet :)
[22:25] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, I've managed to use native Linux ware to solve all problems!  Even accounting and website editing!
[22:25] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; in the long run Ubuntu will amaze you.. i do more now than i ever imagined.. there is little learning to be done but it is well worth it
[22:25] <gregbrady> zcat[1], min as well!
[22:26] <quaal> genii, -bash: fmask: command not found
[22:26] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, yup.....we are all happy!  We even prefer Gnome over KDE
[22:26] <xb3rt> Whats the best media player for linux
[22:26] <LjL> !offtopic
[22:26] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:26] <LjL> !best | xb3rt
[22:26] <ubot3> xb3rt: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[22:27] <sureshot> great it worked now
[22:27] <zcat[1]> funny part is she does all her email through google and mostly just does stuff on the web, so windows shouldn't make that much difference anyhow.. :)
[22:27] <anolis> hi, i was wondering if anyone here has any experience dealing with configuring ppp servers, for dial up access to a linux server
[22:27] <ceej> hey all anyone know what this means ? sudo: must be setuid root
[22:27] <mrpockets> where'd you get it?
[22:27] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; i know this guide isn't supported here.. just double check against the community forums to be sure you're doing it correct.. : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[22:27] <gregbrady> zcat[1], exactly!  most people don't realize that everything they do is os independant
[22:27] <mrpockets> or how?
[22:28] <genii> quaal: manpage for mount has some info on it. Apparently mask of the process you use plays a role.
[22:28] <jourdan> sureshot: ah i see.  You need to run it either as root, or with sudo.   If you are using a command line editor like vi you would do sudo vi <filename>
[22:28] <mrpockets> jourdan,  what does the vi mean?
[22:28] <zcat[1]> Ummm.. that error sounds like it's complaining that sudo itself is not setuid root..
[22:28] <jourdan> mrpockets: no idea. just the sound of the editor
[22:28] <SpookyET>  What's with all these emacs haters? I love the program. Vim is so masochistic. You can insert and edit at the same time. It's bloody brilliant!
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ceej, are you trying to sudo from a user account without admin rights?
[22:29] <jourdan> *name not sound
[22:30] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, I'm not sure what you are trying to show me with that link
[22:30] <sureshot> jourdan: im not to home with those command as you can see:) i wrote sudo gedit the /var/www/test.php and it worked
[22:30] <sureshot> -the
[22:30] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; it is a how-to guide for gutsy..
[22:31] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, yes, but it does not address large file transfers.....
[22:32] <jourdan> sureshot, That should work :)
[22:32] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; in that guide it suggests filezilla .. which i still suggest scp.
[22:32] <jourdan> anybody know how to make irssi not show joins/quits?
[22:33] <zcat[1]> I'd suggest gksudo if you're running a GUI editor but otherwise that should work
[22:33] <derdui_> does anybody know "linux-DVT"
[22:33] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, yes but I still cannot figure out how to use scp.
[22:33] <Starnestommy> jourdan: I think /ignore #ubuntu joins quits parts
[22:34] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; try to read the man pages : man scp .. and what is stopping you from using scp? are you not getting out of your network to the other? what are the errors you're getting when you actually try to use scp?
[22:35] <neosix> hello!
[22:35] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: both ends are behind NAT and he doesn't know how to forward ports...
[22:35] <neeto> Even though I am mounting it with sudo mount -w /dev/sdk2 /media/ipod, gtkpod still can't write to my ipod, and therefore cannot create the ipod file structure... has anyone ran into this problem before?
[22:36] <derdui_> !linux-DVT
[22:36] <ubot3> Factoid linux-dvt not found
[22:36] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, I can't even try it...how do you start scp?
[22:36] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, see how simple we are>?
[22:36] <xb3rt> How do i fix my media player so that the GStreamer plugins to play mp3's can be found
[22:36] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; simple indeed
[22:36] <Wavesonics_> I really need to get my dual display working, can anyone help me?
[22:37] <compbrain> Wavesonics_: What video card?
[22:37] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, I told you, typical computer users, not administrators
[22:37] <xb3rt> Wavesonics: System>Screens and Graphics
[22:37] <Wavesonics_> compbrain: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (using the open source drivers)
[22:37] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, if it is not possible for the likes of us, just say so.  We'll move on.
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 | xb3rt
[22:37] <ubot3> xb3rt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:37] <compbrain> xb3rt: Have you ever had that work ^_^
[22:37] <jourdan> Starnestommy: ty, that seems to have done it
[22:37] <Zergiu> Hello
[22:38] <Wavesonics_> xb3rt: it doesnt even give me the option to exten my desktop in the GUI
[22:38] <anolis> how do i find out what device my dial-up card is assigned to?
[22:38] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: ok, first step go to portforward.com and find out how to configure your router to forward port 22 to the linux box.
[22:38] <Starnestommy> jourdan: in case you decide to turn them back on, /unignore #ubuntu
[22:38] <jourdan> right
[22:38] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: the far end is running windows?
[22:38] <jourdan> channel this big, gets to be too much
[22:38] <gregbrady> zcat[1] pretty much
[22:39] <compbrain> Wavesonics_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[22:39] <azexian> hi, can someone help me using a usb cardbus, it uses a via chipset, I can use a mouse with it, but not a usb memory stick
[22:39] <zcat[1]> cool.. there's a nice windows program called 'winSCP that will make this easier!
[22:39] <Zergiu> Anyone knows what file replaces libmotif3?
[22:39] <compbrain> Wavesonics_: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI if you decide to switch to binary
[22:39] <gregbrady> zcat[1] cool, I'll check that out
[22:40] <lilg111111> quaal, im back
[22:40] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: but you still need to figure out port forwarding aka 'pinholing' your router to open port 22 up.
[22:40] <azexian> usb cardbus (pcmcia), detected as hub, but memory sticks don't work on it /dev/sd** isn't made
[22:40] <Wavesonics_> compbrain: checking it out, but u wanna some something weird? Right now my 2nd monitor is of course just displaying the exact same thing as my primary, BUT when I play a video, the window is black on my primary, and actually displays the video on my 2ndary which is only copying the primary to begin with!
[22:40] <quaal> lilg111111, congratulations
[22:40] <Th3On3> hello
[22:41] <Th3On3> i have one issue with mythubuntu
[22:41] <gregbrady> zcat[1] so why would you suggest something in Windows that is as easy as Linux......I would prefer to stay in Linux!
[22:41] <RabidLockerGnome> hi guys, why would one use the source repos vs regular ones?
[22:41] <Th3On3> i have a problem
[22:41] <Th3On3> i am using mplayer to see xvid movies on mythtv
[22:41] <Th3On3> but when i hit 'esc' key it exits mplayer and mythtv ?!?!?!?
[22:41] <Riis> where does ubuntu put it's libjvm.so from Suns Java?
[22:41] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: the far end is running linux or windows?
[22:41] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; the site zcat[1] suggested earlier portforward.com will tell you how to forward for your routers on both ends .. you'll need to have someone on the windows side do port forwarding too if they are behind a router as well
[22:41] <Riis> (anyone mind doing find / -name libjvm.so for me?)
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> RabidLockerGnome, enable the repos in the source list that have src in the line
[22:42] <RabidLockerGnome> Jack_Sparrow, WHY would I do that is what im asking, whats the benefit
[22:42] <adub> can someone tell me why i do not have the print size for option 10 envelope i am confused
[22:42] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: not at all, they can just use winscp from the windows end, drag and drop the file..
[22:42] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: only one end needs to figure out port forwarding
[22:42] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]; winscp forwards itself?
[22:42] <gregbrady> zcat[1], I've spent all this time and effort on switching my family over to Linux, why would I change back?  I'm not sure I understand here.....
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> RabidLockerGnome, NO beneift...  Unless you want to edit or compil;e things yourself
[22:43] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: are both ends running linux?
[22:43] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; you said the remote computer was runnign windows? or were you confused on that question?
[22:43] <zcat[1]> channel: anyone know something easy and GUI like winscp for linux?
[22:43] <benedito> hi
[22:43] <gregbrady> zcat[1], as stated......one is pclinuxos and one is ubuntu.  I never said windows
[22:43] <RabidLockerGnome> k thx
[22:43] <benedito> help me
[22:43] <faileas> !aptfix
[22:43] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:43] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: ok, confused with another conversation sorry
[22:44] <gregbrady> unless I made a mistake
[22:44] <lilg111111> cant play streaming audio or video in gusty, i have codecs installed
[22:44] <adub> i do not have a #10 option envelope print size for my printer
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; filezilla has a decent GUI ..
[22:44] <aryr100> Riis what are u looking for with the find cmd ?
[22:44] <zcat[1]> sorry, thinking of guy who wanted to conect from windows at his school I think
[22:44] <Starnestommy> lilg111111: have you tried vlc?
[22:44] <benedito> i need to say friends
[22:44] <Pelo> I need someone familiar with conky to correct a set of lines for me
[22:44] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: filezilla can do scp?
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; it walks you thu the set up.
[22:45] <benedito> i am live in brasil peoples
[22:45] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, I just thought there was an easier, Linux based way.
[22:45] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]; filezilla can transfer files.. that is what he wants to do. since both are nix boxes..
[22:45] <Kud> Hello :)
[22:45] <jourdan> you can use nautilus i think
[22:45] <Starnestommy> benedito: try #ubuntu-br
[22:45] <jourdan> zcat[1]: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47350
[22:46] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: just that ftp is more complex than scp.. passive vs active mode, etc..
[22:46] <bastid_raZor> gregbrady; honestly.. you keep asking for an easier way.. scp is the easiest. filezilla one GUI way for linux
[22:46] <Kud> I have a problem in installing ubuntu on an optiplex 320 (dell)
[22:46] <Riis> aryr100: where the Sun java libjvm.so file is installed
[22:46] <Kud> it makes an error like "pci cannot alocate"
[22:46] <Jeah> Does anyone know if there's a way to request Backports other than Launchpad?
[22:46] <bastid_raZor> zcat[1]; he isn't going to try scp so what not a GUI based app..
[22:46] <Riis> aryr100: I don't have an ubuntu box to search on myself
[22:46] <zod_> can all normal pc users use Ubuntu as main os (not dual boot)??
[22:46] <Starnestommy> Riis: in a terminal, run locate libjvm.so
[22:46] <Kud> I have to type pci=nomsi acpi=off, do you know why?
[22:46] <gregbrady> bastid_raZor, ok, thanks for the help!  I see the options now...!
[22:47] <aryr100> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.
[22:47] <xb3rt> can someone help me install the GStreamer plugins required to play mp3's
[22:47] <zod_> any one knows??
[22:47] <benedito> ç
[22:47] <Riis> Starnestommy: like I said, I don't have an ubuntu box
[22:47] <neeto> SNuxoll: tell me about it....
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Kud, at start or install screen, press F6 and remove splash and quiet,  if that does not work do it again but now also add noapic acpi=off before the -- on the command line
[22:47] <neeto> gtkpod is having trouble writing things to my ipod. I have the ipod mounted with read/write access though... any ideas?
[22:48] <Riis> aryr100: can you get me the complete path to the client version of the .so file?
[22:48] <aryr100> Riis did u see the post ?
[22:48] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: at some point, no matter what program you use under what OS, you _are_ going to have to forward at least one port on at least one end to get a connection between the two machines.
[22:48] <Kud> yeah I tried acpi=off and pci=nomsi, it works
[22:48] <neosix> zod_: how do you mean?
[22:48] <zod_> so as an 22 old normal pc user, can i use ubuntu as main os with out dual boot??
[22:48] <BuckWild> okay, so does anyone know how to solve the issue with icedtea on amd64?
[22:48] <stanis_sh> hello gentlemen :)
[22:48] <Kud> but i'd like to know it doesn't work if i don't type it
[22:48] <jourdan> neeto: try using banshee? ;)
[22:48] <aryr100> Riis /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
[22:48] <seb1> hello
[22:48] <benedito> i starnesttommy
[22:48] <Riis> aryr100: thanks!
[22:48] <brandonc503> hey all
[22:48] <neosix> zod_: yes you do
[22:48] <neeto> jourdan: will it create the filestructure and things for me using libgpod?
[22:48] <zod_> like doing normal writhing progs, games, dvd, mp3, divX?
[22:49] <aryr100> np
[22:49] <gregbrady> zcat[1] I understand now....I will have to learn and setup both machines
[22:49] <jourdan> neeto: you know i'm not sure.  I've never bothered, all i know is that it will let me drag and drop files out of my library and also sync if i wanted to
[22:49] <neosix> zod_: everything you want
[22:49] <brandonc503> im wondering what would be better a 2.66 ghz with 256 ddr ram, orr a 2ghz with 1.25 gig ddr ram?
[22:49] <zcat[1]> zod_: yes, but some of those things need 'nonfree' or 'restricted' extras which are usually quite easy to add.. we can help you with playing DVD etc..
[22:49] <gregbrady> zcat[1] no easy solution
[22:50] <bastid_raZor> zod_; notice though.. most games on the market aren't written for linux.. you'll have to do workarounds like wine or cedega
[22:50] <zod_> sweet how to play dvd then?
[22:50] <Starnestommy> brandonc503: probably the one with more ram
[22:50] <lilg111111> Starnestommy, i have it
[22:50] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: port forwarding is _easy_ .. everyone who wants decent p2p speeds learns how to do that.
[22:50] <Jeah> zod_: games will be the biggest problem there, but the rest will be no problem.  Games are fine, too, as long as you want to play games written for Linux.  If you have specific Windows games in mind, you should look into whether they can be run through Wine (appdb.winehq.org)
[22:50] <seb1> i am trying to install enemy teritory with : sudo sh ./et-... , then it ask mefor directory to be installed and it says u dont have permision to write to /usr/local/bin , how should i proceed ? as root or ?
[22:50] <neosix> zod_: just install drivers
[22:50]  * jourdan detaches
[22:50] <pipegeek> Any idea why the Update Manager would insist on listing three up-to-date packages, which don't go away when I 'update' them, because they're staying at the same version?
[22:51] <zod_> ah tnx all for the great support
[22:51] <gregbrady> zcat[1] I tried before with no luck on my router....
[22:51] <zcat[1]> gregbrady: also many games (windows or linux) need ports forwarded to work.
[22:51] <pipegeek> ie, I'm already at the latest version, but update-manager is asking me to 'update' to the version I already have
[22:51] <lilg111111> Starnestommy, im trying to play youtube video and streaming audio from pandora.com
[22:51] <bastid_raZor> seb1; it just trying to add the binary to your /bin .. yes run as sudo
[22:51] <pipegeek> which is irritating, because it means I never know when there's an update I actually *do* need to install
[22:51] <zod_> so how long must i use Linux to be comfortble with it?
[22:51] <brandonc503> what do i have to compare to see if i can move the 2.66 ghz processor to my other machine using the 2 ghz?
[22:51] <Starnestommy> lilg111111: do you have flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[22:51] <Jeah> Does anyone know if there's a way to request Backports of packages other than through Launchpad?
[22:52] <seb1> bastid_raZor: but it wont allow me to write at /usr/local/bin with sudo
[22:52] <zod_> year? month, weeks or days to get used to the Linux world?
[22:52] <soundray> zod_: between a week and 20 years, depending on your mental flexibility
[22:52] <zod_> by mental flexibility u mean?
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> zod_, Not a question anyone can answer...
[22:52] <zcat[1]> zod_: I have had people come over, use my machine, and think it's windows with a different theme :)
[22:52] <jumeaux> roro
[22:52] <jumeaux> qui est francais ,
[22:53] <zod_> thx for the info on that ppls
[22:53] <bastid_raZor> seb1; does your user have sudo ability? if you used sudo ./whatever and it asked for a password then it should work
[22:53] <soundray> zod_: the ability to give up old ideas and concepts and adopt new ones
[22:53] <Wavesonics> xrandr doesnt seem to be modifying my settings
[22:53] <zcat[1]> zod_: once stuff is set up, linux is very easy to use, things are in obvious places .. OpenOffice works just like msoffice, etc..
[22:53] <zod_> ah sweet
[22:53] <Pelo> jumeaux, si tu veux de l'aide en francais , /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:53] <seb1> bastid_raZor: yes my user has sudo but it didnt ask for password
[22:53] <lilg111111> Starnestommy, yes
[22:53] <Gary_inNYC> zod, in planet houston, one's relative comfort level with a new depends on the individual... can't say sry
[22:53] <derdui_> Hi, does anybody know how to install linux-DVT files?
[22:54] <squidinkc> I want to code a driver for an interactive whiteboard (essentially a big graphics tablet) - does this happen at a kernel level or at the Xwindows level?
[22:54] <soundray> derdui_: deep vein thrombosis?
[22:54] <zod_> well what is the big difference from the windows World and the Linux world, any one who can tell me that?
[22:54] <brandonc503> if i have a machine with 64 mb onboard vid then is that 64 being taken from the ram to be used as vid ?
[22:54] <ArthurArchnix> zod_: Try it in #offtopic
[22:54] <Jeah> zod_: Freedom :)
[22:54] <derdui_> no soundray:)
[22:55] <squidinkc> brandonc503: if it is 'shared' memory then yes
[22:55] <Gary_inNYC> zod come to the ubuntu-offtopic channel and discuss it over there
[22:55] <Pelo> zod_, you don't need money to be part of the linux world we welcome everybody
[22:55] <bastid_raZor> seb1; if you're able to use sudo and it isn't allowing you to write to /usr/local/bin then i don't know what to tell you
[22:55] <brandonc503> squidinkc how can i tell if it shared?
[22:55] <seb1> bastid_raZor: ok thx m8
[22:55] <gregbrady> zcat[1] yes?
[22:55] <zod_> ah freedom, like Microsoft spy on u???
[22:55] <brandonc503> and how can i find he FSB speed of my system?
[22:56] <Jeah> zod_: BTW, I hear D2 runs well through Wine.
[22:56] <squidinkc> brandonc503: is there an option in your BIOS to change the amount of vid memory?
[22:56] <Gary_inNYC> no freedom means freedom to distribute, modify, and distribute
[22:56] <Jeah> zod_: Exactly.
[22:56] <lekremyelsew> hi all
[22:56] <soundray> zod_: Ubuntu emulates most of the concepts that Windows uses (like windows, desktops, drop-down menus etc.) -- so it's easy to get started. To make full use of Linux's advantages, it's a good idea to familiarize yourself with dialog interfaces, though. An example would be the bash shell in a terminal window.
[22:56] <squidinkc> And does the amount of memory at startup differ (by 64 MB) from the amount you thought you had in the systeM,?
[22:56] <lekremyelsew> how do i get rid of the network icon in the notificatio area?
[22:57] <Gary_inNYC> lol i pulled a dodgeball acronym just ignore me
[22:57] <bastid_raZor> lekremyelsew; should be right click the icon then remove from panel
[22:57] <soundray> derdui_: what is a DVT file then, and where did you get it?
[22:57] <JaxJagsfan> Can anyone help me figure out how to get my SoundBlaster Live Value card to work?
[22:57] <brandonc503> squidinkc yea
[22:57] <zcat[1]> bastid_raZor: not so simple ... it's a notification icon
[22:58] <lekremyelsew> bastid_raZor: its not a launcher, its in the notification tray
[22:58] <brandonc503> there is also an onchip frame buffer size
[22:58] <adub> i do not have a #10 option envelope print size for my printer
[22:59] <JaxJagsfan> Can anyone help me get my sound card to work on Ubuntu?
[22:59] <TheBadTax> Starnestommy and bastid_raZor: okay this is Bax, but know I've got the same problem as before but in reverse, the root user can't log in
[22:59] <derdui_> i dont know, thats why i ask soundray, and i dont have any file like that, i just wanna lern  more, you often find that in the www, for virus-scanners etc...
[22:59] <zcat[1]> lekremyelsew: you could remove network-manager from your session and that icon won't appear.
[22:59] <Wavesonics> could I get some help with xrandr?
[23:00] <soundray> !sound > JaxJagsfan, please read the private message and follow the advice. If you hit problems, come back here and ask more specifically
[23:00] <lekremyelsew> zcat[1]: will it come back on startup?
[23:00] <Paul_UK> hey all, anyone here administer Ubuntu in the corporate environment?
[23:00] <lekremyelsew> zcat[1]: nvm thats a stupid question
[23:00] <zcat[1]> lekremyelsew: no, next login network-manager won't run and you won't see he icon.. if you need it back, eg for connecting to a wireless network, you an press F2 and run it manually
[23:01] <Integration> anyone dual booting windows vista and ubuntu?
[23:01] <brandonc503> lets say i have 1 gig of ram and i set my bios setting for AGP Aperture Size to 512... but i dont use the on board vid, i use a card... does that 512 i set for AGP get wasted... or is that 512 what im alowing for the vid card to use?
[23:01] <soundray> derdui_: no, you don't often find DVT files on the web. And, note, you don't need a virus scanner if you're running only Linux.
[23:01] <seb1> how can i add user to be able to write to /usr/local/bin ? Enemy teritory wants to write data there but my user dont have rights. when i start install with sudo sh ./et-... it dont ask me for pasword.
[23:01] <soundray> Integration: ask the real question please
[23:01] <lekremyelsew> zcat[1]: i dont even have a wireless receiver, so ill just delete it from the startup menu
[23:02] <bastid_raZor> TheBadTax; honestly the person who chown'ed your /home is a retard.. my best guess chown /home as root then chown each username inside /home to their username
[23:02] <derdui_> but what is that? soundray
[23:02] <lekremyelsew> zcat[1]: thx btw
[23:02] <soundray> derdui_: http://www.whatextension.com/DVT
[23:02] <Integration> any issues with dual booting ubuntu and vista? or is it painless?
[23:02] <Wavesonics> I'm using xrandr to set up dual head, and I'm getting the following: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1200 (desired size 3840x1200)
[23:02] <derdui_> thanks soundray
[23:02] <Wavesonics> any ideas how to fix this?
[23:02] <RoAkSoAx> Integration, should be painless
[23:02] <zcat[1]> Integration: afaik painless (other than the pain of still having Vista installed)
[23:02] <me> whohaa
[23:02] <RoAkSoAx> !dual
[23:02] <ubot3> Factoid dual not found
[23:02] <soundray> !dualboot | Integration
[23:02] <ubot3> Integration: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[23:03] <bastid_raZor> TheBadTax; ex. /home/razor ,. chown -R razor:razor /home/razor .. then /home/bax .. chown -R bax /home/bax
[23:03] <brandonc503> and what temp should my CPU be runing at to be safe?
[23:03] <lilg111111> when i type in ubuntu the courser jumps around to previous words i typed
[23:03] <Integration> sounds good because i'm going to install it today on my laptop :D
[23:03] <RoAkSoAx> brandonc503, dependding on your CPU
[23:03] <david_> i lovre all the praise I have read about miro...only problem... it ceashes on launch..lol
[23:03] <RoAkSoAx> Integration, you should do it without any problem
[23:03] <soundray> brandonc503: you will have to look that up in the specifications of your CPU (on the manufacturer's web site)
[23:04] <brandonc503> k
[23:04] <zcat[1]> dualboot vista installs are pretty similar to dual-boot XP installs .. some vista laptops are packed with Linux-hostile hardware though, which can be a problem.
[23:04] <lonejack> hi, does anybody know if ubuntu can work with raid-1 over nvidia NF4 ultra chipset? Thank you...
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> brandonc503, usually, till 70 C
[23:04] <brandonc503> okay then im fine
[23:04] <frank23> david_: yeah miro is not that stable. did it work at first?
[23:04] <xb3rt> Where can i get a desktop video recording program to make some youtube videos with
[23:04] <david_> frank23, nope
[23:05] <brandonc503> and if  i have 1 gig of ram and i set my bios setting for AGP Aperture Size to 512... but i dont use the on board vid, i use a card... does that 512 i set for AGP get wasted... or is that 512 what im alowing for the vid card to use?
[23:05] <zcat[1]> !info recordmydesktop
[23:05] <ubot3> recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 132 kB
[23:05] <soundray> Integration: the installer will offer to split your hard disk between Windows and Ubuntu and install a boot manager so you can choose.
[23:05] <Integration> soundray, thanks for the advice
[23:05] <frank23> david_: you can try to run it in a terminal to see error messages
[23:06] <david_> frank23, it used to work about 3 yrs ago
[23:06] <nilse> Hi, I wonder which is the correct way to completley disable/replace utf-8 with iso-8859-15
[23:06] <frank23> david_: are you on gutsy?
[23:06] <david_> frank, yes
[23:06] <Paul_UK> Anyone here support Ubuntu on the Desktop and Windows on the Server in a Corp environment?
[23:06] <david_> frank23, yes
[23:06] <Copter> How can I copy something to usr/local ? I cant paste stuff inside there :/
[23:06] <reya276> need some serious help, I installed this CUPS update for an HP P1006 printer (hplip-2.8.2) but now the printer won't work, is there a way to wipe out the tool it installed called "HP Device Manager" as it installed two instances of this app
[23:06] <Ttech> Paul_UK, omg
[23:06] <matrixstyle> Does anyone here know how i can just find a channel just for regual chatting?
[23:07] <Ttech> wow
[23:07] <Ttech> thats a bad setup
[23:07] <Ttech> matrixstyle,  #defocus
[23:07] <Ttech> ;)
[23:07] <Paul_UK> Ttech: It exists im interviewing for a Fortune 100 company at the moment, and they have that setup
[23:07] <matrixstyle> how di du do that lol
[23:07] <matrixstyle> im new to this
[23:07] <soundray> nilse: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[23:07] <Zergiu> after I install a text editor , why does the terminat ask for the gutsy gibbon cd?
[23:07] <frank23> david_: the last time I had problems with it, I deleted the conguration and that fixed it.  rm -r /home/frank/.miro/
[23:07] <brandonc503> matrix    /join #channel
[23:07] <zcat[1]> Paul_UK: they are nuts! are you sure you want to work there?!!
[23:07] <matrixstyle> how do you find channels ?
[23:07] <frank23> david_:   rm -r ~/.miro/
[23:07] <david_> frank23, ill try that
[23:08] <Ttech> Paul_UK,  I know it probbably exists
[23:08] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: Because it's still in your sources list
[23:08] <Ttech> But it is a bad setup
[23:08] <brandonc503> matrix guess or ask
[23:08] <reya276> here is where I got the file from http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=575089
[23:08] <Paul_UK> zcat[1]: yeah I do.  They also have Linux on the Server, so dont hate too much
[23:08] <Starnestommy> matrixstyle: /msg chanserv list *topic*
[23:08] <Ttech> matrixstyle,  erm /join #defocus and /list, do /join #freenode too
[23:08] <Ttech> omg
[23:08] <Zergiu> ArthurArchnix I don't get it
[23:08] <Wavesonics> where is my xorg.conf file again?
[23:08] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: How are you installing?
[23:08] <bastid_raZor> Wavesonics; /etc/X11/
[23:08] <soundray> Wavesonics: /etc/X11 (case sensitive)
[23:08] <frank23> Wavesonics: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:08] <zcat[1]> Paul_UK: about the closest I've got is setting up evolution to talk to an exchange server ... and that worked quite well :)
[23:09] <nilse> soundray: will this also affect the X enviroment?
[23:09] <Zergiu> ArthurArchnix: with sudo apt-get
[23:09] <persen_> hi, i've got this laptop that with a smb share i've mounted. I took the laptop of the network and need to remount it, but when i try to umount the /mnt/laptop_folder i get "device is busy". Anyone know howto to unmount this ?
[23:09] <Paul_UK> zcat[1]: right
[23:10] <soundray> nilse: I think it configures the character set globally
[23:10] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: Perfect. So do this instead, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   then comment out the line with cd (put a # in front of it), then save and close, then sudo apt-get update
[23:10] <nilse> soundray: ok, Ill test it, thanks!
[23:10] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: Then install
[23:10] <mr-george> hello, could anyone help me with my monitor and video card?
[23:10] <Zergiu> ArthurArchnix: alright thanks
[23:11] <soundray> nilse: are you sure that this is what you want, though? Going back from utf-8 is kind of, well, backwards
[23:11] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: np
[23:11] <arrow> I installed "wine" using "sudo apt-get install wine" then downloaded utorrent and right clicked it and said install with wine.  Where in my harddrive should it be located?
[23:12] <nilse> soundray: yes i really want this, I only get problems with utf-8 and I really like to know that every character I watch is one character and not a utf-8 special thing
[23:12] <zcat[1]> arrow: .wine/drive_c/Programs
[23:12] <ArthurArchnix> what do you like about utorrent so much that you want to use it under wine?
[23:12] <david_> frank23, no difference
[23:12] <zcat[1]> arrow: .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files  -- I think
[23:12] <soundray> nilse: okay
[23:13] <frank23> david_: I'm on gutsy too and it works. did you install packages from non ubuntu repositories?
[23:13]  * Pelo is proud of himself, he got conky to update when he plugs in his usb drives
[23:13] <david_> frank23, possibly medibuntu
[23:13] <frank23> david_: I don't think that should affect it...
[23:13] <soundray> arrow: it's probably a good idea to run winecfg before you go ahead with everything else
[23:14] <david_> frank23, it crashes when its loading the miro guide
[23:15] <arrow> I'll try that soundray, thanks zcat[1]
[23:15] <Radar> I can install the nvidia drivers fine and get X to dual-screen using nvidia-settings (writing to the config file as root) but when I reboot the computer it loads up in low graphics mode.
[23:15] <Alan_M> !medibuntu > speeddemon8803
[23:15] <zcat[1]> Radar: nvidia binary installer?
[23:15] <Y-Town> anyone know of a good application to do file syncronization between my home computers and web host server?  Looking to keep backup files on the web host server of documents and so forth
[23:15] <arrow> soundray, is there a site that'll guide me through the wine cfg?
[23:16] <david_> frank23, im using kubuntu butsy
[23:16] <david_> gutsy
[23:16] <soundray> arrow: I don't know -- have a look around -- I found it pretty self-explanatory, though.
[23:16] <starshine> "Falling back to the standard locale" and many many messages complaining about unset locale..
[23:16] <nilse> soundray: nope, that did not solve it. GDM_LANG and LANG is still en_US.UTF-8
[23:16] <starshine> ubuntu gutsy, fairly new chroot environment
[23:16] <soundray> nilse: did you restart X?
[23:16] <arrow> soundray: k thx
[23:16] <nilse> soundray: I rebooted :D
[23:16] <frank23> david_: me too
[23:16] <starshine> attempted to reinstall locales and perl had no effect
[23:17] <Radar> zcat[1]: yes
[23:17] <starshine> what do I do :(
[23:17] <david_> frank23, hmmmm
[23:17] <Wavesonics> Where in xorg.confg do I edit my maximum frame buffer size?
[23:17] <soundray> nilse: System-Administration-Language Support then
[23:17] <Radar> zcat[1]: I run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and then the binary file I got from the nvidia website then load up x, set up the dual screens using nvidia-settings and that's all peachy.
[23:17] <zcat[1]> Radar: There's an autoconfiguration package you have to uninstall 'cos it gets confused (package management doesn't tell it you have nvidia installed) I'll try and find the name for you
[23:18] <Radar> I can reboot X as many times as I want, rebooting the computer somehow screws the whole setup.
[23:18] <frank23> david_: did you try running it in a terminal?
[23:18] <Radar> ok, that would make sense if something else is toying with it.
[23:18] <Prefix> guys, lets say im making a batch/shell thing yeah, i want the shell to restart my pc so i need the command "sudo reboot" to run. However in terminal this command, being sudo, asks for my password input, how do i add my password to be filled in via a shell?
[23:18] <nilse> soundray: nothing there about utf-8 or iso-8859-15
[23:18] <JaxJagsfan> Can I pm anyone who can help me with my sound card problem?
[23:18] <david_> frank23, whats the command?
[23:18] <Starnestommy> Prefix: echo "password" | sudo -S command?
[23:18] <starshine> can anyone *please* help me with this locales madness?
[23:18] <frank23> david_: just   miro
[23:19] <david_> frank23, brb
[23:19] <intarwebz> hey i have two ostensibly identical ubuntu 7.1 installs open scribus documents differently
[23:19] <Prefix> what Starnestommy?
[23:19] <Prefix> is it echo "my password"?
[23:19] <Starnestommy> Prefix: yes
[23:19] <Prefix> what does sudo -S do?
[23:19] <WEYWIT> I am having a small problem with DVD playback. Whe I try to play back the audio and video are all broken up. I have tried VLC and mplayer but no joy. I think it might a problem with the speed of my DVD drive.
[23:19] <Prefix> ahh right i get it
[23:19] <Prefix> tyvm man
[23:19] <Radar> The -S option causes sudo to read the password from the standard input instead of the terminal device.
[23:20] <Radar> man sudo.
[23:20] <Radar> About 1.5 pages down.
[23:20] <Alan_M> !dvd | weywit
[23:20] <ubot3> weywit: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:20] <Alan_M> have you tried this WEYWIT ?
[23:20] <david_> !pastebin
[23:20] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:21] <starshine> david_: I don't suppose the bot has something useful about locales settings complaints in him?
[23:21] <starshine> I already tried google
[23:21] <david_> frank23,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59297/
[23:21] <starshine> all three of the useful answers I got turned out to not help :/
[23:21] <JaxJagsfan> Success - At this point, you should see your sound card listed. This is a positive sign because it means that Ubuntu is detecting the presence of your soundcard, but the drivers are not installed/running. Leave your shell running since you will need it.
[23:22] <Alan_M> locales for what?
[23:22] <JaxJagsfan> What shell? :s
[23:22] <RoAkSoAx> !ffmpeg
[23:22] <ubot3> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 213 kB, installed size 728 kB
[23:22] <soundray> nilse: what is LANG set to in /etc/environment ?
[23:22] <elTigre> Hi! I'd like to setup dual head mode on a laptop with an Intel accelerator
[23:22] <elTigre> where should I start?
[23:22] <starshine> Alan_M: dpkg-reconfigure for all apps spews about having bad locales settings and having to fall back to current locale
[23:22] <Zergiu> guys , what was the command to login as root in terminal?
[23:22] <elTigre> I couldn't find howtos but for ATI and NVIDIA
[23:22] <Prefix> is the | part of the command or is that a new line?
[23:22] <Radar> Zergiu: suido
[23:22] <Radar> sudo*
[23:22] <soundray> Zergiu: 'sudo -i'
[23:22] <Prefix> (sorry im new)
[23:23] <Zergiu> ok
[23:23] <Radar> Prefix: part of the command
[23:23] <starshine> apt-get check says all the dependencies are complete so I'm utterly stumped what's missing :(
[23:23] <Alan_M> Prefix...yeah
[23:23] <Wavesonics> can anyone help me with xrand?
[23:23] <abrock> Recently switched from Fedora to Ubuntu. Anyway know how to enable GnuCash to do Online Banking?
[23:23] <Radar> Wavesonics: just ask your question, don't ask to ask.
[23:23] <legend2440> !locales | starshine
[23:23] <ubot3> starshine: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[23:23] <Radar> or ask to ask to ask.
[23:24] <WEYWIT> I have already got LIB decss installed and I think it is working. I am getting playback but it is just bad playback.
[23:24] <Alan_M> abrock, you can type in sudo aptitude install gnucash in a terminal window.
[23:24] <nilse> soundray: doh. en_US.UTF-8, this gets updated sometimes when dist-upgradeing
[23:24] <starshine> legend2440: thx, I'll be back in a moment if that doesnt work though :/
[23:24] <Prefix> !pastebin
[23:24] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:24] <frank23> david_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588617&page=4   last post says it's caused by some medibuntu package.
[23:24] <nilse> soundray: I would guess there aught to be a correct way to choose the LANG and GDM_LANG so that they are not reset when updateing
[23:25] <soundray> nilse: I think GDM_LANG get set according to LANG in /etc/environment (but I may be wrong, as you know)
[23:25] <abrock> Alan_M: I have it installed via the Add/Remove programs but when I opened the app, I don't have an Online Banking Options to Get Transactions like I did over in Fedora.
[23:25] <Zergiu> why some commands work with alt+f2 and not with terminal(premision denied)
[23:25] <nilse> soundray: Im fixing etc/enviroment now and restarting X
[23:25] <carlos> hello all, I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk" but a message: please insert the disc labeled please insert the disc labeled please insert the disc labeled... so, what can i do to resolve it?
[23:25] <JaxJagsfan> Excuse me for being a Ubuntu noob, how do I run a shell to fix my sound card problem? :s
[23:25] <Prefix> so if i wanted this to work via php this is the code right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59298/ (including the php lines ofc)
[23:26] <Prefix> cause it doesn't work ^^
[23:26] <zcat[1]> OK, I'm lost.. what's the program that checks the xorg configuration at every reboot, and breaks stuff if you installed the binary driver package... I can't recall it now.
[23:26] <starshine> gutsy does not contain localeconf.  dpkg-reconfigure locales does not present the dialog this obviosuly describes.
[23:26] <genii> carlos: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list          and put a # in front of line which is for the cdrom installation disc. Save and then try install again normally
[23:27] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[23:27] <carlos> genii: thanks for you help :)
[23:27] <JaxJagsfan> Thanks Ray
[23:27] <iRRVi> how do i change my GART size?
[23:28] <iRRVi> im using the ati opensource drivers
[23:28] <david_> frank23, i see, so the only way to fix it would to remove the medibuntu repository, thanks frank youve been a great help.:)
[23:28] <ArthurArchnix> Zergiu: Some commands are restricted to the super user, because they can harm the system or are dangerous in some way. Try prefixing the command with sudo
[23:28] <starshine> dpkg-reconfigure locales in fact spewed the same warning about unset locales.  all several lines of it, twice.
[23:28] <genii> carlos: np
[23:28] <Prefix> anyone?
[23:29] <frank23> david_: well if that is indeed your problem. you will have to downgrade the packages that were installed from medibuntu
[23:29] <soundray> starshine: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[23:29] <Zergiu> ok
[23:29] <david_> frank23, sounds like a pain in the A#@
[23:30] <frank23> david_: ;-)
[23:30] <david_> lol
[23:30] <humblerodent> Anybody here know about accessing iPod Nano's flash memory manually in Linux?
[23:30] <starshine> soundray: "broekn or not fully installed" ok so what was it thaqt fails to report this as a dependency?
[23:30] <frank23> david_: check the first page of that forum thread too
[23:31] <david_> frank23, k
[23:31] <humblerodent> I have already got the iPod's flash memory successfully mounted, and I can easily transfer mp3 files to it.  However, after doing so and disconnecting, it seems the songs don't register in the iPod's database.  Any clues?  TIA
[23:31] <iRRVi> I'm using the open source ATI drivers: how do i change my GART size?
[23:31] <nilse> soundray: no banana yet. still utf-8 =/, there must be a "correct procedure"
[23:31] <Radar> zcat[1]: I was able to find a very hacky workaround. I load up in recovery mode, do all the stuff I need to do and then do "telinit 3" which gives me the mode ubuntu starts up in normally"
[23:32] <soundray> starshine: that error is not dependency-related
[23:32] <sCOTTo> hey guys - i just installed ubuntu desktop - i am trying to share files across a windows network... can someone help me out a bit ?
[23:32] <zcat[1]> Radar: I've done this before.. there's one package you need to uninstall but I just cannot recall the name of it.
[23:32] <nith> sCOTTo: Have you installed samba yet?
[23:32] <nickrud> Radar: actually it's telinit 2 for the default ubuntu run level, you're missing a couple things in 3
[23:32] <sCOTTo> nith yes
[23:32] <soundray> starshine: 'sudo apt-get -f install' to try and recover from that
[23:32] <Radar> nickrud: like what?
[23:33] <nith> sCOTTo: have you set your samba password?
[23:33] <nilse> soundray: sorry, had to disconnect aterm does not like the LANG
[23:33] <sCOTTo> nith how?
[23:33] <nith> smbpasswd
[23:33] <zcat[1]> Radar: hang around in here a bit, someone will probably have a better answer anyhow
[23:33] <genii> well, telinit 2 actually and not 3 is the norm. But anything from 2 to 5 is equivelent anyways in this dist
[23:33] <starshine> I have shiny new console fonts and still get locales spew messages.
[23:33] <marco> hello I reinstalled gutsy last night and did all the updates including my video card when i restarted my computer no longer recognized my pci wifi card or onboard ethernet it says no network devices, any ideas?
[23:33] <Radar> zcat[1]: I would hope so./
[23:33] <nickrud> Radar: powernowd and friends
[23:34] <sCOTTo> nith Failed to find entry for user root.
[23:34] <sCOTTo> Failed to modify password entry for user root
[23:34] <sCOTTo> ?
[23:34] <rabinho10> hey
[23:34] <nith> sCOTTo: don't run it as root
[23:34] <Radar> nickrud: you mean the daemon that tracks my battery life?
[23:34] <sCOTTo> oh
[23:34] <starshine> soundray: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:34] <rabinho10> no se ni madres de ubunto
[23:34] <david_> frank23, miro is defiantly not worth all that!!!
[23:34] <starshine> I already said all its depends were satisfied :(
[23:34] <Radar> rabinho10: habla inglas
[23:34] <soundray> starshine: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install console-setup'
[23:34] <sCOTTo> nith Failed to find entry for user root.
[23:35] <sCOTTo> Failed to modify password entry for user root
[23:35] <nickrud> Radar: that and read-ahead, at first pass
[23:35] <nith> ?
[23:35] <WEYWIT> !dvd
[23:35] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:35] <iRRVi> how do you change the GART size in the ATI open source drivers?
[23:35] <nith> sCOTTo: you're not logged in as root are you?
[23:35] <sCOTTo> no
[23:35] <sCOTTo> im in teh root group though....
[23:36] <nith> that shouldn't matter
[23:36] <sharperguy> how do i type an invisible character?
[23:36] <starshine> soundray: any particular answers I should make sure to give while it sets up?  and why will console-setup affect locales?
[23:36] <nith> sCOTTo: did you sudo -s?
[23:36] <l33> Dual Head is broken in 7.10 :-(
[23:36] <l33> for ATI chips...
[23:36] <iRRVi> sharperguy: try the b ig long key at the center bottom of your keyboard ;)
[23:36] <sCOTTo> nith what is that sposed to do?
[23:36] <starshine> many many instances of the same complaint :(
[23:36] <kris_ph> hello! where can I find CGI directory in ubuntu gutsy?
[23:36]  * l33 hates is onboard gfx
[23:36] <iRRVi> l33: no its not, i just did it a few days ago
[23:36] <sharperguy> iRRVi, I mean one which doesnt leave a space
[23:37] <nith> sCOTTo: just try opening a new terminal then
[23:37] <iRRVi> sharperguy: i was jk
[23:37] <soundray> starshine: enter your preferences and you'll see. If you're unsure, accept the default. If that package was broken or half-installed, you needed to apply this present fix sooner or later anyway.
[23:37] <sharperguy> iRRVi, really?
[23:37] <nith> it logs you in as root so you dont have to sudo everything but should only be used when doing admin stuff
[23:37] <sCOTTo> nith i dont think smb is up
[23:37] <sCOTTo> by what i can see here n e ways
[23:38] <starshine> soundray: I went through its dialogs, it gave me a shiny new font setup.  but it had no effect on the locales complaint.
[23:38] <nith> sCOTTo: type "ps -e | grep smb"
[23:38] <l33> IRRVi nah, I have dogey ati moblity
[23:38] <iRRVi> l33: same
[23:38] <nith> does it come up with anything?
[23:38] <amenado> kris_ph-> do you know what you are looking for?
[23:38] <l33> all the posts point to it being broken in 7.10
[23:38] <sCOTTo> nith nothing happened
[23:38] <legend2440> starshine: here is localeconf pkg if you need it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/i386/localeconf/0.9.4.1
[23:38] <l33> iRRVi I'd love to see a copy of you xorg.conf?
[23:38] <JaxJagsfan> Where do I find /etc/modules ?
[23:38] <soundray> starshine: okay, sorry, then I'm out of answers
[23:38] <nith> sCOTTo: then you're right, its not running
[23:38] <iRRVi> l33: i'll pastebin it fer ya
[23:38] <nith> sCOTTo: have you restarted since you installed it?
[23:38] <sCOTTo> errr
[23:38] <sCOTTo> no
[23:38] <kris_ph> amenado: yeah.. this file cgi/php.ini
[23:38] <sCOTTo> why?
[23:38] <starshine> legend2440: soundray: this is a chroot gutsy, there's no localeconf in that flavour
[23:38] <l33> iRRVi nice.
[23:39] <iRRVi> l33: but i must warn you some of it is messed up
[23:39] <kris_ph> amenado: but I cannot find cgi directory
[23:39] <acee1234> what is the best wat to backup my os before i start blindly messing with things
[23:39] <l33> Don't worry
[23:39] <acee1234> way
[23:39] <iRRVi> l33: as int there for no reason
[23:39] <l33> I know what I'm doing.
[23:39] <nith> sCOTTo: I always do after installing things like that, it makes it easier
[23:39] <l33> I'm a robot from the future
[23:39] <starshine> legend2440: I'm only gonna go to that effort if you're sure it will work, cuz I don't have cut and paste at this textmode..
[23:39]  * l33 Sarah Conner?
[23:39] <amenado> kris_ph-> can you not create one?
[23:39] <sCOTTo> freak
[23:39] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: in the file system. 'cat /etc/modules' to see its current contents
[23:39] <nith> sCOTTo: try "invoke-rc.d samba start"
[23:39] <nickrud> l33: please, who do I bet on next world cup?
[23:40] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: are you trying to add a sound driver to it?
[23:40] <Kris07> Hello everyone.
[23:40] <l33> ;-)
[23:40] <JaxJagsfan> yes
[23:40] <kris_ph> amenado: I just don't know what to include in the file....
[23:40] <starshine> legend2440: would it be useful to just make it upgrade again to hardy?
[23:40] <l33> if it was boxing, I'd know.
[23:40] <Kris07> How do I open up ports?
[23:40] <kris_ph> amenado: and why is it that I don't have CGI directory?
[23:40] <iRRVi> l33: it mostly has to do with xrandr btw
[23:40] <amenado> kris_ph-> do you know how to program in php?
[23:40] <sCOTTo> nith ok if you say sonith PM
[23:40] <l33> yeah,
[23:40] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: please use my nickname -- that way I won't miss your reply. Have you tested that driver already?
[23:40] <l33> xrandr does seem do anything on my system.
[23:40] <l33> it's ANNOYING!
[23:41] <legend2440> starshine:  i don't know i never had this particular problem
[23:41] <iRRVi> l33: what command you type in?
[23:41] <starshine> soundray: thanks for trying to help :)
[23:41] <l33> I think it may be because if have an M6
[23:41] <l33> don't have it to hand :-(
[23:41] <kris_ph> amenado: BTW...m using php5
[23:41] <acee1234> how do i backup my entire ubuntu os?
[23:41] <l33> I followed as faq thing...
[23:41] <starshine> legend2440: all the forums posts I dug through offered fixes that didn't work for me :(
[23:41] <xb3rt> i just installed xvidcap and its now on my applications menu but when i click the program it wont load
[23:41] <Pelo> !backup > acee1234 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[23:41] <amenado> kris_ph-> can you not create one? if you dont have one..
[23:41] <soundray> starshine: do re-ask the channel in a while -- new people are logging on all the time
[23:41] <pike_> acee1234: /msg ubotu backup
[23:42] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: yes it worked on Windows but doesn't work on Ubuntu
[23:42] <Pelo> xb3rt, type the name of the app in the terminal and see if you get any error msg
[23:42] <l33> iRRVi xorg?
[23:42] <l33> ;-)
[23:42] <l33> ehehheheheh
[23:42] <amenado> l33-> type this   xrandr -o right
[23:42] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: what were you planning to change in /etc/modules ?
[23:43] <kris_ph> amenado: can I just copy the folder /etc/php5/apache2/ where it has php.ini and I will just rename it to cgi?
[23:43] <iRRVi> l33: i did my xrandr like this (and i'll get you my xorg.conf too my interwebs is slow, im at a hotel): gksu "xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS"
[23:43] <jadib> noobie question: so I have ubuntu running on my laptop... A) when i manually configure my wirless settings my wifi works at home ... but when i go to school or the library or anywhere with wifi i have to manually reconfigure my wifi settings IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS??? B) can this be solved with a better network detector package? If so then which one?....im using default ubuntu 7.10
[23:44] <l33> my screen is now on it's side!
[23:44] <l33> cool!
[23:44] <l33> I'm now typing up the screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:44] <l33> LOL!
[23:44] <amenado> kris_ph-> the point am trying to get at, if you have learned php, it has a requirement, a web server..and the server does what to your php?
[23:44] <iRRVi> l33: etf?
[23:44] <Pelo> jadib, doesn'T setting the network manager to roam take care of that ?
[23:44] <quaal> l33, stop blogging into my chat window
[23:44] <l33> ok
[23:44] <TMH_> hi. I recently upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy) and basically i cannot get compiz-fusion to work properly. whenever i run compiz --replace, it removes all my window borders and in order to get them back i have to log out and log in again. any suggestions?
[23:44] <amenado> l33-> dont get a stiff neck okay..thats just fun thing to do amongst friends
[23:44] <kris_ph> amenado: okay... let me ask this instead.. how to know that CGI is installed?
[23:45] <mrpockets> what exactly is a "screenlet" ?
[23:45] <Kris07> Is there a way to choose the best port for me without going through a lot of different ones?
[23:45] <l33> ;-)
[23:45] <xb3rt> whats this       xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libmp3lame.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:45] <l33> how do i reset with xrandr
[23:45] <Pelo> TMH_,  ask in #compiz they will sort you out
[23:45] <l33> back to default
[23:45] <TMH_> ok thanks
[23:45] <Pelo> xb3rt, how did you install xvidcap ?
[23:45] <xb3rt> with gpkg and a .deb
[23:45] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: I'm following the directions on http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-emu10k1#Setting_up_modprobe_and_kmod_support
[23:46] <hoopy> hello
[23:46] <nith> Kris07: I'm sorry but what are you trying to do?
[23:46] <amenado> kris_ph-> look around apache directories..
[23:46] <Pelo> xb3rt, open up synaptic,  search and install lame , libmp3lame  and any related packages with -dev in the end
[23:46] <sCOTTo> nith im back
[23:46] <Kris07> Get a faster connection.
[23:46] <jadib> pelo, it doesnt it seems to stall up
[23:46] <Nith> sCOTTo: any luck?
[23:46] <hoopy> i need to start the ubuntu livecd and use it only in text-mode, the vm i'm trying to run it in keeps crashing when it attempts to bring up X
[23:46] <Nith> Kris07: better connection to what?
[23:46] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: did you get that page through the factoid I sent you?
[23:47] <sCOTTo> nith nope
[23:47] <hoopy> i just want to use it to do some diagnostics
[23:47] <l33> n
[23:47] <kris_ph> amenado: I cannot find one there.. Is there a way to install it? how?
[23:47] <iRRVi> l33: try gksu "xrandr --output VGA-0 --rotate normal"
[23:47] <Kris07> Nith, The internet and torrenting.
[23:47] <lwizardl> hi
[23:47] <hoopy> i'm assuming there's some sort of boot option of the live cd that will make it to where it doesn't attempt to start x
[23:47] <Pelo> jadib, just a thought,  you might want ot check the forum for this,  do a search I'm sure it is covered,   www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:47] <l33> iRRVi ...just worked that out!
[23:47] <l33> ;-)
[23:47] <l33> thanks!!!
[23:47] <pike_> Kris07: use port 1201  thats the snappy port
[23:47] <amenado> kris_ph-> thats an apache support feature
[23:47] <an0n> I have a laptop with no HDD, no CD, no USB and no PXE, is there any way to copy files to the hard drive mounted at /dev/sdb along with a bootable .img, plug it back in it, and watch it go? *prays*
[23:47] <Pelo> hoopy, you need the alternate install cd for that , or the dvd
[23:47] <faileas> o0
[23:47] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: yeah but I'm on several sound troubleshooting pages it's confusing for me to figure it out.
[23:48] <jadib> pelo...ok thanks
[23:48] <l33> xrandr --output VGA-0 --rotate normal
[23:48] <xb3rt> Pelo: nothing called lame even showed up
[23:48] <faileas> an0n: copy files from where to what? ;p
[23:48] <starshine> legend2440: ok I got the localeconf package you described.  installing it and told it to manage my locales.  however, I still get the spews when I try to dpkg-reconfigure things
[23:48] <iRRVi> l33: http://rafb.net/p/iZjHxm19.html
[23:48] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: have you checked your mixer settings yet?
[23:48] <an0n> Faileas: From my ubuntu laptop to the hard drive which I've pulled out and mounted :P
[23:48] <Pelo> xb3rt, I find that hard to believe, but instal the other one if you find it
[23:48] <l33> iRRVi thanks!!!
[23:48] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: how do I check that?
[23:48] <xb3rt> actually i see it now, but it wants to remove xvidcap in the installation process
[23:48] <l33> iRRVi do I need a xrandr command line as well!?
[23:48] <faileas> an0n: assuming the ubuntu laptop works.. just copy it?
[23:49] <kris_ph> amenado: okay...so how to install it?
[23:49] <iRRVi> l33: i think so
[23:49]  * starshine puts it through configure *again* in case it helps.
[23:49] <Pelo> xb3rt,ok don'T for now , just install the other one
[23:49] <iRRVi> l33: and you just replace the VGA-0 and stuff with the ones you want
[23:49] <starshine> uh. shock. it actually presented a different sequence.
[23:49] <an0n> Ah, I should have said, I want to set up linux (DeLi probably) on the laptop
[23:49] <xb3rt> Pelo: whats the other one called
[23:49] <an0n> So I want to set it up to sort of install itself...from itself
[23:49] <l33> ok
[23:49] <amenado> kris_ph apache already have it..may i suggest a tutorial on apache?
[23:49] <Pelo> xb3rt, the one in the error msg libmp3lame
[23:49] <l33> Thanks for you help.
[23:49] <l33> if I don't get it working
[23:49] <yjyjiffi> ###############
[23:49] <l33> at least I got my screen to rotate!!! COOL!
[23:49] <iRRVi> l33: now, back to my problem with the GART size >_<
[23:50] <l33> whats up with GART?
[23:50] <l33> AGP Apperature
[23:50] <iRRVi> l33: when i run certain programs i get a message about adjusting the GART size
[23:50] <Kris07> pike_, Thanks
[23:50] <Sinnerman> is there any reason why my 'network manager' icon in my tray does not scale when the other ones get resized when i change the size of the panel?
[23:50] <l33> yeah, modules.conf perhaps?
[23:50] <runst8> can I set my video to 16-bit in ubuntu?
[23:50] <iRRVi> l33: i'll check
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> runst8, as long as it is supported yes
[23:51] <Pelo> Sinnerman, probably not a vector icon
[23:51] <l33> /etc/modprobe.d/
[23:51] <soundray> !info liblame0 | xb3rt, this is the package you want
[23:51] <runst8> Jack_Sparrow how do I change it?
[23:51] <Sinnerman> Pelo the other icons aren't vector icons either.
[23:51] <n3ry_> http://216.83.134.89/help.txt   its my questiom... if some1 can help me ill be very gracious... thanks....
[23:51] <xb3rt> soundray: ok i see that, thank you
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> runst8, from terminal or gui
[23:51] <runst8> Jack_Sparrow: terminal preferred
[23:52] <starshine> legend2440: I've tried it with either C or en_US picked and no better effect :(
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> runst8, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:52] <runst8> awesome thanks alot
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:52] <xb3rt> soundray: i got this error             W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/l/lame/liblame0_3.97-0.0_i386.deb
[23:52] <xb3rt>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[23:53] <zelubu> hey, anyone have the channel for linux link tech show?
[23:53] <mc-george> hello, I desperately need help
[23:53] <JaxJagsfan> soundray:  I just looked for /etc/modules/ I don't have a modules folder there.
[23:53] <Pelo> mc-george, state your problem
[23:53] <mc-george> >	in ubuntu I looked in the display settings and I saw it was using the plug and play monitor, so I saw a list of monitor settings, it had mine, so I selected it and put resolution 1024*768, it told me all users have to log off, I did, then the screen went crazy, trying to display 4 of the same image on a 600*400 screen
[23:53] <an0n> Please? Anyone know how to copy files to a HDD so it will boot itself and start an installation process, for Ubuntu or anything else?
[23:53] <starshine> mc-george: me too, you'd better ask the real question :O
[23:53] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: is that the problem?
[23:54] <starshine> an0n: there's an installer on ubuntu's live CD
[23:54] <an0n> Yes, but I have no CD, no Floppy, no USB, nothing. Just a hard drive I can take out and mount
[23:54] <an0n> It's an old ass laptop
[23:54] <kris_ph> amenado: thanks for the idea.. :)
[23:54] <Pelo> mc-george, try going back in the resolution settings and picking the 1024 resolution again, this will not ask you to change users again, that was just becauese of the change in monitor
[23:55] <Pici> !install | an0n
[23:55] <ubot3> an0n: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:55] <soundray> xb3rt: something is wrong with your network setup
[23:55] <starshine> an0n: then mount it in any other PC, boot that one off live CD< and run the installer pointed at it
[23:55] <starshine> I've done that many times for exactly such laptops.
[23:55] <mc-george> pelo: I can't get there, the screen is too distorted
[23:55] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: /etc/modules is a file, not a folder. What does 'ls -l /etc/modules' say?
[23:55] <xb3rt> soundray: im connected, what else could it be
[23:55] <amenado> an0n-> is the pc you want to install on closeby you?
[23:55] <kris_ph> how to find any existing files or directory with word nagios?
[23:55] <starshine> legend2440: does it make a difference that I'm chroot and can't get in via the rc init sequence?
[23:56] <Starnestommy> kris_ph: locate nagios
[23:56] <an0n> starshine: yes, it's 120MHz so ubuntun itself is probably a bad idea
[23:56] <soundray> xb3rt: spurious proxy setting? 'env | grep -i http'
[23:56] <amenado> kris_ph-> find / -name nagios
[23:56] <starshine> kris_ph: find / -name \*nagios\* | less
[23:56] <iRRVi> l33: i dont see what i need >_<
[23:56] <Pelo> mc-george,try booting the recovery mode and editing the xorg.conf file with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  look where the resolutions are listed if you can make heads or tails of it and see what you can do , best I can advise, I've never heard of this problem before
[23:56] <starshine> an0n: can I recommend plain boring debian then, or xubuntu ?
[23:56] <l33> iRRVi hold on
[23:56] <l33> iRRVi let me see
[23:56] <iRRVi> l33: k
[23:56] <l33> iRRVi I have done this ages ago..
[23:57] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: what do I type in terminal to get that answer?
[23:57] <mc-george> pelo, how do I boot in recovery mode?
[23:57] <l33> iRRVi pastebin you lsmod
[23:57] <Pelo> mc-george, actualy,   boot the recovery mode and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg this will let you reset X , much better,
[23:57] <starshine> locales *still* spewing messages when I try to reconfigure things :( help...
[23:57] <an0n> starshine: by all means, sure - just want to know if I mount it and point the installation at it, it's not going to choose the wrong drivers or have hardware detection errors pr whatever?
[23:57] <xb3rt> soundray: i ran that and got       http_proxy=http://localhost:4001
[23:57] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: everything between the 'single quote marks'
[23:57] <pipegeek> Any idea why the Update Manager would insist on listing three up-to-date packages, which don't go away when I 'update' them, because they're staying at the same version?
[23:57] <mc-george> pelo, I can't do anything, the screen is so messed up
[23:57] <pipegeek> ie, I'm already at the latest version, but update-manager is asking me to 'update' to the version I already have
[23:57] <pipegeek> which is irritating, because it means I never know when there's an update I actually *do* need to install
[23:57] <soundray> JaxJagsfan: 'ls -l /etc/modules'
[23:58] <Pelo> mc-george, reboot the computer, from the grub boot menu, select the recovery mode, usualy the second menu option, if you don'T usualy get the boot menu at startup , type  the esc key right after the bios stuff
[23:58] <starshine> an0n: tell it to install the complete set of X11 servers, you can always prune the ones you don't use later.
[23:58] <l33> iRRVi do you do it in the bios?
[23:58] <Pelo> mc-george, recocovery mode is text based
[23:58] <an0n> starshine: much appreciated, shall go try it
[23:58] <starshine> an0n: also even if you can't see your X you can ctrl-alt-F1 and login on the text mode
[23:58] <soundray> xb3rt: that's the problem. Did you install squid or wwwoffle or similar?
[23:58] <iRRVi> l33: i didnt see any options for it last time i was in there
[23:58] <l33> dmesg | grep aperture
[23:58] <an0n> I'll remember that
[23:58] <mc-george> pelo, I think the problem is I deselected plug and play and selected my monitor, which messed everything up
[23:59] <l33> iRRVi: dmesg | grep aperture
[23:59] <pepegrillo> hi
[23:59] <JaxJagsfan> soundray: it says, JaxJagsfan: 'ls -l /etc/modules'
[23:59] <iRRVi> http://rafb.net/p/O30CDL66.html
[23:59] <iRRVi> [   13.980000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe8000000
[23:59] <JaxJagsfan> damn
[23:59] <xb3rt> soundray: the other night i tried setting up an anonymizer, which i installed and never saw again
[23:59] <starshine> heh, I can run rings around X, but I never get the easy questions myself
[23:59] <Pelo> mc-george,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg should fix that,  more easily then editing xorg.conf,  just select your video card and for the rest just use the default provided unless you know better
[23:59] <Integration> As I'm about to install ubuntu I found something weird i was checking my laptop with vista in it and it's showing only 25gb out of 100gb of space left when I have used around 30 gb in files only. Is it possible that Vista takes 40 gb to run lol?
[23:59] <l33> iRRVi: whats your gfx card lspci