[00:52] hi, How to increase the size of texts in ubuntu ? [00:52] Xubuntu [03:13] after installing gutsy from a usb flash drive I get a grub error 15 when I try to boot from the hd but if I boot from the usb it boots fine [03:13] however I cant figure out how to fix it [03:14] when i enter grub and try 'find /boot/grub/stage1' i get the error 15 again [03:15] because boot is the first partition on sda i tried 'root (hd0,0)' but then I get error 21 [03:16] Error 21: Selected disk does not exist [03:16] tried 0,0 0,1 1,0 1,1 all gave error 21 [03:24] j1mc? [03:25] hi HACKhalo2 [03:25] heya [03:25] :) [03:26] im a noob :P [03:26] i can't figure out how to submit a bug [03:26] ok... i should probably be able to help. what problem are you having? [03:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [03:27] My wireless card's Firmware isn't in Xubuntu 8.4a3 [03:27] hmm... what wifi card do you have? [03:27] Dell TrueMoble 1300 [03:29] in 7.10, I had to download Firmware in order for it to work [03:29] right... that may still be necessary under 8.04. ?? i'm not a total pro myself. [03:29] well, the lights don't come on anymore [03:30] have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell [03:30] did you do an upgrade, or a clean install? [03:31] my labtop isn't even on there lol [03:32] they mention the wirelss card, though. [03:32] did you do a clean install of 8.04, or an upgrade? [03:32] right [03:32] upgrade [03:33] it is probably because the wireless modules are now interfacing with a different kernel. [03:33] everything else works flawlessly [03:33] that would be my guess... [03:33] have you tried reinstalling ndiswrapper? [03:33] :? [03:34] http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ [03:43] is it possible to mount NFS shares w/o resorting to the root account? [03:45] hi echobinary ... sorry, i don't know that one. maybe somebody else here does. [03:50] doesn't it automount? [03:50] what? [03:51] sure you can mount nfs automagically [03:51] doesn't it automatically mount when you start up? [03:51] doesnt that involve the root user? [03:51] it does... [03:51] scrach that [03:52] the goal is to map NFS network shares as a non-root user [03:52] ah [03:52] the idea being that if the computer gets compromised and they get root, they cannot do any damage to the remote filesystem [03:53] so basically, have the NFS controller under another user whereas root has no controll over it? [03:54] on the server i can set up the share such that -mapuser root=nobody [03:54] and nobody would have no permissions [03:55] so you can't set it as -mapuser user=admin? [03:55] err -maproot=nobody [03:55] lol [03:55] i misspoke [03:55] ah [03:55] the flag is maproot, not mapuser [03:56] it is not flexable with which user [03:56] i can set maproot=admin user jus tot get it mounted.. but then my remote filesystem is vunerable [03:57] howevewr [03:57] now that i think about it [03:57] if someone can get root [03:57] they can just su to the admin username [03:57] lol [03:57] im overthinking things [03:58] * echobinary is still learning lots [03:59] * HACKhalo2 is still learning too === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [07:44] I am having trouble ejecting my removable usb sticks. Is this possible with Xubuntu? [07:45] I just sudo umount them myself [07:48] Does that protect the data from erasing when being unplugged from the computer? [07:49] yep - sure doesw :) [07:49] *does [07:49] thanks [07:49] k luck to you [08:06] i'm having a rather odd glitch. selecting a terminal from the applications menu kicks me out to the log on screen... am i having a wierd glitch, or is there a reason why its doing that? [09:27] How should xubuntu be pronounced? [09:28] wyattc: zoobuntu [09:29] Damn. [09:30] I have an ongoing (and wrong) urge to call it ksoobuntu or exoobuntu [09:32] Thank you though. [09:36] hello peeps [09:36] does anyone know if xubuntu comes default with befs support? [09:37] what's "befs"? [09:37] BeOS file system [09:37] !befs [09:37] How should I know? [09:38] trying to mount a befs partition but I'm getting a unknown file type when trying to [09:38] hehe maybe not - gimme a min to check [09:39] thnx [09:41] http://www.freelists.org/archives/openbeos/12-2006/msg00167.html - should give you a clue [09:44] ah k thnx ;) [09:44] checking [09:48] ow bugger .. wrong device ;) [09:48] working [09:48] used /dev/sda3 instead of 4 ^^ [09:50] so it's ok? [09:51] yeah it's working fine [09:51] sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt -t befs [09:52] now on to adding that in fstab === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [10:43] re [12:34] why is there no volume control be default? [12:34] *by [12:35] tachyon: yes, there is a panel plugin [12:35] tachyon: i can't remember if it is added to the panel by default or not, if not then just right click on the panel and add the plugin [12:39] it wont add to either of my 2 panels [12:40] sighs [12:41] it's currently broken in hardy [12:41] what is [12:41] hi, how i upgrade xubuntu feitsy to gutsy gibons= [12:41] the panel plugin [12:41] !upgrade | ghetto[kernel] [12:41] ghetto[kernel]: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [12:41] i'm not in hardy [12:44] TheSheep: its broken in hardy? [12:44] * maxamillion needs to keep up with whats going on :/ [12:44] maxamillion: segfaults [12:45] ouch [12:46] well whats that gnome app i can run to change the volume? [12:46] gnome-volume-manager [12:47] aha, thanks [12:48] TheSheep, i opened the upgrade manager and im on it right now, but i have xubuntu, will the upgrade change it to ubuntu? i dont want that [12:49] no [12:49] that doesnt appear to launch either folks [12:50] gota go now XD, (upgrading) proccess ^ [12:50] xcfe is losing fans [12:51] tachyon: that last one is not an xfce app, maybe something's wrong with your soundcard? [12:51] tachyon: does alsamixer work? [12:52] just trying it [12:54] it works! you legend [12:54] hmm... then it's not a soundcard issue. wonder hwat it might be then [13:00] its ok now... i just messed around with the panel properties and readded and its there now === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [13:02] so now the crisis is over, is there a way to get windows to resize to *almost* full screen, without covering the panel, like a mac os x dock? [13:03] tachyon: it's the default when the panel's position is 'fixed' [13:03] tachyon: you can also set margins in "workspaces and margins" [13:04] nice [13:57] how can i increase the number of workspace from 2 to 4? i cant seem to find it. [14:02] jepes: settings->margins and workspaces === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [17:02] Anyone around today? [17:02] !ask [17:02] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [17:03] NM-applet shows up in my taskbar 3 times its quite annoying. Is there anyway to make linux boot faster? I also have no boot screen its just a black screen for 2-3 minutes until it finally loads to wm [17:05] dezrik: to get rid of nmapplet, delete the files in ~/.cache/sessions [17:05] dezrik: it should be ok on next login [17:06] dezrik: you can make it boot faster by disabling startup of some services you don't need [17:06] basicly i just use this box for browsing and watching movies from time to time. [17:07] dezrik: and last, edit the file /etc/usplash.conf as root and put a proper resolution for your screen there [17:09] Wow your amazing [17:09] How do i disable startup services [17:10] either use the simple yet not very powerful system->services dialog, or install the 'bum' package and use that (it will show as system->boot up manager) [17:10] be careful do not disable dbus or hal, you need them [17:11] alright installing 'bum' [17:13] dezrik: disabling some of the autostarting applications may help reduce the time to login too [17:14] this laptop is only 1.10Ghz 256MB of ram, i dont expect it to boot that much faster lol [17:14] it's a fine machine [17:15] This is the first run linux for long term [17:15] im forcing myself to use it for a month [17:16] cold turkey, eh? [17:16] Yup [17:16] Didnt back up anything. [17:16] so far im doing alright last time i installed linux it failed to boot after a week of using it :/ [17:16] Seems to be alright now 1+week already [17:19] as long as you don't mess with root :) [17:20] could someone tell me how to start a command line install [17:20] ? [17:21] Alright rebooting ill tell you if its faster [17:25] Boot screen didnt load, but it did boot a little faster. and my nm-applet problem is gone [17:25] dezrik: great [17:25] amoose136: you need the alternate cd for that [17:25] keyring nm applet related thing is annoying [17:26] great I'll start a download [17:26] amoose136: you can also use the minicd and install from network [17:26] !install [17:26] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [17:27] the computer I am installing from has no OS and the network is not going to work constantly [17:28] it must be cd install [17:37] can someone help me with a graphic driver issue [17:40] hello [17:45] !ask [17:45] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [18:07] Is there anyway to make keyring not popup i have to put in the password a few times before it accepts [18:33] Total newb here: How do i get a list of the programs i've already got installed [18:34] I *know* there are programs on here that I don't have in the applications list [18:36] accesories>appfinder [18:36] ls /usr/bin [18:36] thanks [18:36] np [18:38] i should start reading through the documentation again, [18:40] feel free to ask [18:43] i do :) [18:43] dpkg -l will list all the packages that are installed [18:44] heh, somewhat spammy though :) [19:20] Hello im having problems with nm-applet [19:21] dezrik whats your problem with nm-applet ? [19:21] i have to enter keyring something password [19:21] alot [19:22] <^u^> !keyring [19:22] How should I know? [19:31] !keyring [19:31] How should I know? [19:40] dezrik: its a safety feature, it keeps wireless encryption keys locked internally and encrypted so they can only be accessed with your password [19:40] has anyone figurd out how to get the keyring integrated with pam and gdm? [19:41] I know you can get that working with gnome, for some reason I can't get it working in firefox [20:01] good afternoon [20:02] i really could use a hand if someone has the time [20:02] Sure. I'll try. What's up? [20:02] im getting ready to install on a fresh reformatted hard drive [20:03] is there anything special i need to do first ? [20:03] * uninvited listens... [20:03] nod [20:03] no* [20:03] pc-illiterate: OK. Are you planning to use the entie drive? Or dual-boot or something? [20:03] lvm ? [20:04] its a slave drive but im using that 2nd drive for xubuntu only [20:04] pc-illiterate: OK. There is nothing special you need to do. Just select that drive in the partition step of the installation [20:05] cool. [20:05] pc-illiterate: Have fun! [20:05] so install will ask which drive to install too then ? [20:06] pc-illiterate: Yes. you need to know the sizes of the hard drives you have. [20:06] thats easy lol [20:06] i have a 60 master and 20 slave [20:07] pc-illiterate: Let us know whether you run into any problems! [20:07] last question i think. do i need to install from reboot or can i install while im in windows ? [20:08] and you better believe i'll be back if i have a problem lol [20:08] pc-illiterate: You need to shutdown windows and boot from the cd. [20:08] pc-illiterate: You burned the iso to cd, right? [20:08] ok....hopefully i'll be back with good news :D [20:08] yep [20:09] the desktop/install cd [20:09] Put that cd in the drive before you turn your comp off. [20:09] And While your at it. Make sure that you burn ed the *contents* of the iso not the iso itself. [20:10] (a common problem, i did it myself) [20:10] actually i mounted it on daemon tools and copied it with nero [20:10] pc-illiterate: So when your cd is in the drive, do you see one file, the iso, or several files and folder? [20:11] all the dif files n folders [20:11] pc-illiterate: Good. See if it boots... [20:12] it has before. i couldnt live cd because i dont have enough ram [20:12] ok im out if thats it... === Dr`Maison is now known as fraiddo [20:13] pc-illiterate: See you! [20:13] later man lol [20:17] Hi, I just installed xubuntu. Is there a graphical utility with which I can access samba shares or drag-n-drop files via ssh? In ubutu, nautilus can do that, but thunar doesn't seem to be able to do that. [20:18] guest8: Not in thunar... [20:18] Any other program that is automatically installed? [20:18] guest8: TGhis might help though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 [20:19] What is TGhis? [20:19] *this [20:19] hi [20:20] Hi, I have made new users on xubuntu, but for some reasons i lost complete access to system apps. how do you regive privileges with the sudo commands ? [20:20] Isn'T that forum article about creating shares? I only want to access them [20:21] all my users lost their access to those apps like wireless manager, synaptic, updates, etc. i want to have complete access again [20:21] guest8: The forum post was about mounting samba share with thunar. It is a little different that simply accessing them though [20:21] zPliskiN: Maybe you just need to add those users to their respective groups. [20:22] Well, ok, then thats not the ideal thing for me... I don't need to install the samba server on my xubuntu box. [20:22] 1 group is in Root, and he has lost access as well [20:22] isnt there a command like sudo create user - full access or whatever [20:22] guest8: It is the best we got with thunar :( [20:22] just a way to create a supreme user of some sort. [20:24] Maybe an external application (not part of Thunar) hat supports drag'n'drop with files and folders? [20:24] guest8: I don't know... If you find one, let me know. I would be interested... [20:25] I know gFTP, but it doesn't support drag'n'drop [20:26] guest8: you sould use something like afuse and fusesmb and sshfs [20:27] basically you setup a direcotry, and whenever you browse into that directory it will automount through smb, ssh or whatever the resurce you need [20:27] wasn't exactly that described in the post? [20:27] the drawback is that for it to be easy, you have to store your passwords in a file on your drive [20:28] Well, saving passwords in nautilus also saves them somewhere, so that wouldn'T matter ... [20:28] But I don't feel comfortable with installing the whole samba server to access shares, zoredache [20:28] !samba [20:28] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [20:29] !smb [20:29] guest8: you don't need the samba server to have smb fuse support [20:29] zoredache: Doesn't it say so in the post? [20:29] I don't know... I didn't read it [20:30] ITs this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 [20:30] guest8: There is xsmbrowser in the repos... I haven't tried though. But you can take a look? [20:31] aptitude show xsmbrowser says that it suggest nautilus, so it won'T work (drag'n'drop) with thunar? [20:32] guest8: yes that article basically suggests the same solution.... [20:33] What "same solution"? It doesn't say xsmbrowser anywhere [20:33] hi i have this problem, xfce dont want to show me higher resolutions than 800x600, although i have in xorg.conf 1024x768 as the only res available. ive been like this for at least two weeks, i have Xubuntu, many will say its a xorg problem but no, believe me, its xfce, how can i fix it or where can i edit the options xfce is showing me to change the res [20:34] Odd-rationale: Thanks, I'll try out xsmbrowser. [20:34] guest8: the same solution as the one I had suggested 4 lines before.... afuse+fusesmb [20:34] zoredach: Ah, ok. So you do need the samba server [20:34] Bye [20:34] But I can use xsmbrowser now, I'll try it out. [20:34] guest8: NO you do NOT need the server [20:34] guest8: Np. Like I said, I haven't tried it myself. Let me know if it works.. [20:35] fusesmb does not depend on the samba server [20:35] zoredach: Doesn#t it say so in step 1: This will install thesamba server [20:35] the article is lieing to you [20:35] you don't need it [20:36] So excluding step 1 still works? [20:36] it should, yes [20:37] I don't see where to set the specific server and share to mount. [20:38] Well, probably you can find better articles about fusesmb via google that don't lie. [20:38] And that tell you how to set the share and server [20:39] I'll think about which approach I favor (mounting or client program), thanks. [20:40] Bye [20:40] * zoredache grumbles to myself... one of these days I am going to have to document my procedure, cause all the current one suck [20:41] lol [20:41] zoredache: Start a wiki article... [20:42] I know, I should, I have just been lazy... but the same question is asked so many times, I would probably make things easier of I just wrong down my directions [20:45] does xubuntu have a CALC program? [20:45] nevermind [20:49] how you setup full access to a user ? [20:50] Try adding that user to the admin group. [20:50] i can't for some reasons, all my users have no access [20:50] even those that were super users [20:50] zPliskiN: How did that happen? [20:50] i don't know. it was fine yesterday, today not. [20:50] if you really broke things, you should be able to reboot into rescue mode and adduser to admin [20:51] how do i boot secure mode ? [20:51] pop cd in and go with menu ? [20:51] have any of u had a problem where the resolutions configured in xorg.conf are not the ones xfce is showing and then u got stucked in an 800x600 or 640x480 maybe [20:51] zPliskiN: Reboot. and when you have the screen that says loading grub, press escape. then select reovery mode [20:51] rebot, press the escape key in the two seconds grub prompts you... then you'll see a menu [20:52] aight. will try [20:52] the cammand once you get there is 'addser {username} admin' or in your case perhaps 'adduser zpliskin admin' [20:52] zPliskiN: When you are there try "gpasswd -a admin" [20:53] zPliskiN: Then do "reboot" [20:53] zoredache: We're just echoing each other... :) [20:53] i try to modify the sudoers, but everytime it says "user not in sudoers. error will be reported" or whatever [20:55] zPliskiN: Is that how you lost root access? [20:55] i use xubuntu [20:57] is there a way to create a new user with the sudo that has access. so i can delete all other users and just remake them or something ? [20:58] if no users currently have access then you are going to need to restart and give users access in the rescue mode [20:58] zPliskiN: Try our suggestion first. Reboot into reveroy mode, and at the prompt to "gpasswd -a admin" then reboot [20:58] if you where updating your sudoers file and it doesn't have the required 'admin' entry then you may need to fix that while you are in recovery mode [20:59] just starting in recovery mode [20:59] anyone tried cnet's wireless cards for xubuntu? It should work but it would be nice to hear someones experience [21:00] whats the difference between gpassword and "adduser ? [21:00] zPliskiN: It is "gpasswd" [21:01] yeah [21:01] the difference is whether you want to modify an account or create a new one. [21:01] whats the difference between those 2 commands [21:01] ah [21:01] will adduser admin work ? [21:01] adduser is a perl script that calls the lower level tools.. it does more error checking I think [21:01] so gpasswd is better ? [21:01] for what you are doing it won't make a difference [21:02] zPliskiN: Do you want to create a new user? [21:02] both tools will make the exact same change [21:02] yes [21:02] i'll make new account, edit the current ones, and restart so everything works [21:02] zPliskiN: Then go ahead. [21:02] gpasswd ? [21:03] zPliskiN: You can "man adduser" and "man gpasswd" to read about them. [21:03] problems.... [21:03] "adding user to group admin" [21:03] means it worked ? [21:03] yes [21:04] pc-illiterate: What's up? [21:04] now i reboot ? [21:04] zPliskiN: Yes [21:04] alright. but seriously, it did it alone. like sometimes the terminal doesnt detect commands. i close it, reopen, and it works [21:04] after i hit enter to start or install it went thru the progress bar then i got a black screen [21:04] pc-illiterate: How much ram you got? [21:05] 256 [21:05] pc-illiterate: hmm. Try the alternative install cd. [21:05] the straight install cd ? [21:05] pc-illiterate: Yes. text mode install [21:05] quick question as well : i use a laptop p4 2.4 ghz, 1gb ram, ati 9000 mobility. is it better to run kubuntu or xubuntu ? [21:06] text mode install..... what ? [21:06] xubuntu would be faster [21:06] zPliskiN: on that system both should run, it will be better to run which enviroment fits your needs [21:06] !alternative [21:06] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal [21:06] i have no idea what kubuntu does more than xubuntu. i just put xubuntu cause thats what i use for my PS3 [21:07] i hate to sound stupid but, what do i do install with the install cd [21:07] zPliskiN: just use the one you are more comfortable with [21:07] zPliskiN: kubuntu is more windows-like... it has more tools and functionality in areas [21:08] pc-illiterate: What do you mean? Could you elaborate a bit? [21:08] is there an easy way to go from xubuntu to kubuntu ? [21:09] zPliskiN: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should install everything you need [21:09] you said text mode install. i doubt i would know what to do after i start-up [21:09] and replace the files ? i don't have a big harddrive, so i don't want both there taking gbs for nothing [21:09] pc-illiterate: It is quite intuitive. Just select the options you want. I can help you through it if needed... [21:10] no, that would have both installed... If you are low on disk space, then you can remove the extra packages [21:10] if it all comes up on-screen i can figure it out. i just know nothing of text input [21:11] if you just want to experiement you might want to download the kubuntu livecd and try that first. [21:11] what you mean ? [21:12] can i just burn the kubuntu cd, pop it in my pc with xubuntu and follow an installation ? [21:12] zPliskiN: I am saying, that if you use a livecd, you can experiement with kubuntu before installing it [21:12] ah ok [21:12] pc-illiterate: It has a "console gui" if you can install xp, it should be no problem for yo [21:12] if you want kubuntu only, you can do the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but removing the extra stuff is a bit tricky [21:12] pc-illiterate: You barely have enough ram to do a livecd [21:12] good. all i have left is music cd-r's....it will burn to that no prob right ? [21:13] i dont have enough. it tells me i need 360+ [21:13] it took me like 6 h to install wireless drivers [21:13] i don't want to do that again [21:13] pc-illiterate: The text mode intall cd only needs 64 mb of ram [21:14] ok. my music cd-r's will work fine though ? [21:14] i belive so. never tried [21:15] ok im gunna give this another go. hopefully i'll be back with better results [21:15] thanks again [21:15] pc-illiterate: np [21:19] crap. 1 more. 7.10 or 6.06 ? does it matter ? [21:20] pc-illiterate: 7.10 [21:21] ok. i feel so stupid [21:23] its ok every 1st timer feel stupid [21:23] its like learning everything you know about computers in a different way [21:23] well im a point n clicker [21:26] ive been on windows since i was 11 [21:26] just made the switch to Linux cold turkey [21:27] i started on 98se in 99 and then bought this pc. i havent done a lot but play games and fight trojans and viruses [21:27] me2 [21:27] i started in WIn95 and worked my way up [21:27] skipped WInME tho [21:28] ive heard hackers dont bother with linux as much cause its not as widely used. seems like a good enough reason to go to linux [21:29] I think its about the same [21:29] people who hack linux boxes are usually very intelligent and don't make mistakes to get caughjt [21:29] any kid can hack windows just by readint tutorials [21:30] dezrik: same with linux [21:30] dezrik: even easier [21:30] linux was made to be easy to play with [21:30] so xp is still the best OS to run games on ? [21:30] pc-illiterate: no, playstation is better [21:31] ha [21:31] ha [21:31] honest [21:31] i'd rather buy a new pc than a ps3 [21:32] I'm not telling you to buy anything [21:32] i only play CS and UT on this pc. its too old for anything else [21:32] I think UT has a linux version [21:32] the engine for it, I mean [21:32] not sure [21:32] i just figured id use wine [21:35] i play UT99 [21:35] lol [21:35] i play tactical ops:assault on terror more than ut99 [22:12] how do i take screenshots in xubuntu? [22:12] entity: 1) there is a panel plugin, 2) you can use gimp's file->aquire->screenshot, 3) you can install scrot and bind it your your printscreen key in keyboard setting [22:13] TheSheep: whats that panel plugin? [22:13] an icon for your panel [22:14] right click on the panel, select add item and select the camera from the list [22:17] TheSheep: thx alot [22:37] hello I need help installing ubuntu [22:37] what problem are you having? [22:38] my laptop take to long to run the live disk so I download the 6 ver and take forever [22:38] is there any installer it don't do the live cd [22:39] yes... use the alternate installers [22:39] !alternate [22:39] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal [22:40] i checked the box and it still does not work [22:40] what is the text mold look like because it still looks like the live cd [22:41] when it start installing [22:42] Baldone: http://php.8ez.com/drsmall/blog/wp-content/screenshot-14.png [22:42] what was the name of the iso you got? the altnernate cd would have a filename like xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso [22:42] let me look on my other computer [22:45] ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop 386' [22:46] and did the ubuntu 7.10 alternate [23:46] Is xubuntu functional enough (ie: power management, wireless) to be ran on a laptop?