[00:31] <limi> does anyone here know what the clock icons at https://launchpad.net/plone/+download indicate?
[00:32] <mwhudson> something to with being associated to a milestone i bet
[00:35] <Hobbsee> yeah.  i'm fairly sure they used to have a tooltip saying which milestone it was for, but it appears that got nuked.
[02:09] <ubotu> New bug: #124325 in bzr "Naming of .bzr.backup directory makes deleting .bzr easy" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124325
[02:09] <ubotu> New bug: #201262 in launchpad "Project download page contains unexplained clock icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201262
[02:56] <limi> mwhudson, Hobbsee: thanks :)
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #201282 in launchpad-bazaar "Add a feed for new code import branches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201282
[05:07] <Hobbsee> damn you launchpad.  i reported this 404 bug MONTHS AGO, and it's STILL NOT FREAKING FIXED!
[05:07]  * Hobbsee tries to remember what the workaround was.  again.
[05:08] <Hobbsee> it comes up for *every* *single* *team* *email* *address* *managing*, yet apparently no one feels it's necessary to actually fix.
[05:12] <Hobbsee> it's a *1 character* change, too.
[05:12] <Hobbsee> unless the boxes get reworked.
[05:16] <Hobbsee> morning stub 
[05:25] <thumper> Hobbsee: which 404?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> thumper: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+editemail
[05:26] <thumper> Hobbsee: and where is it linked from?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> thumper: bottom of https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4
[05:27] <Hobbsee> thumper: for any teams you're an admin of
[05:27] <Hobbsee> (yes, there are 2 links there.  apparently barry ( i think) hadn't had enough coffee that morning.
[05:31] <thumper> Hobbsee: hmm... I don't see it
[05:31] <Hobbsee> thumper: do it for a team you are admin of.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> thumper: else you can't edit emails anyway
[05:31] <thumper> Hobbsee: I was
[05:32] <Hobbsee> thumper: do you have an email set for that team?
[05:32] <thumper> no
[05:32] <Hobbsee> that's probably why
[05:35] <thumper> Hobbsee: ok see it now
[05:36] <Hobbsee> thumper: right.  now click on it :)
[05:37] <thumper> Hobbsee: yeah, that's a bit fcuked up
[05:37] <Hobbsee> thumper: yeah.  has been for months.  i should look up the bug #
[05:39] <thumper> Hobbsee: If you don't get a response by tomorrow by the people that should fix it
[05:39]  * thumper eyes kiko
[05:39] <thumper> Hobbsee: I'll take a look at it tomorrow
[05:39]  * thumper done for today
[05:39] <jamesh> just click on the link a few hundred times
[05:39]  * thumper laughs
[05:39] <Hobbsee> thumper: OK, thanks.
[05:39] <jamesh> each day
[05:39] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:39] <Hobbsee> script it
[05:39] <jamesh> then it will be very important
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #201300 in blueprint "Targeting to milestone returns to "Target to a milestone" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201300
[08:51] <carlos> morning
[09:09] <ubotu> New bug: #201334 in rosetta "Transmission not translatable, even though in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201334
[09:51] <YokoZar> I have an Ubuntu package (zsnes) that added support for amd64 on the last upload.  However, it doesn't seem to be building for amd64, and launchpad isn't showing a failure - it looks like the addition of amd64 to the control file is going unnoticed.
[09:57] <YokoZar> Where might the source of this problem lie?  
[10:21] <Banana> hi folks. I have small question regarding the Bug search engine on launchpad.net (I have only tested with the Ubuntu project).
[10:22] <Banana> There is a bug called "no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12", with number 200338
[10:23] <Banana> if I search for the keyword "sound hardy kernel", the bug doesn't show up in the result.
[10:23] <Banana> if I put the complete title, the result list is empty.
[10:23] <Banana> but if I put the number I am redirected to the bug page directly.
[10:23] <Banana> It seems that it lead to many bug duplicates (including one by me).
[10:24] <Banana> Is it a feature, something specific to the ubuntu project or a bug and in that case should I report it (and where) ?
[10:26] <RAOF> Banana: That'd be because the bug is marked as "fix released", so it's hidden from searches by default?
[10:27] <Banana> hum...
[10:28] <Banana> but it was also hidden when I first reported my bug (which was a duplicate).
[10:28] <Banana> Is this a default behaviour or something each project can specify ?
[10:29] <Banana> I think it would be nice to show the "recently fixed" bugs (like some days or a week max) so that people who are not aware of the fix stop submitting duplicates.
[10:29] <RAOF> This would be a worthwhile wishlist bug to file against malone, yes.
[10:31] <Banana> ok I'll do it then.
[10:31] <Banana> Thanks.
[10:33] <Banana> it *doesn't seem* to be a duplicate this time :)
[10:39] <Banana> oops seems I've it #90738 after all.
[10:41] <RAOF> :()
[10:41] <Banana> I did not duplicate this time ;)
[10:41] <Banana> I'm adding a comment to that bug.
[10:42] <Banana> it seems that this behaviour was introduced by the request on #34046 
[10:44] <Fujitsu> Banana: It's a good thing, otherwise we'd have hundreds of thousands of bugs in Ubuntu searches.
[10:49] <Banana> Fujitsu: I understand that the bug should'nt appear forever.
[10:49] <Banana> but for some days ?
[10:50] <Banana> even for 24 hours.
[10:50] <Banana> I think this would prevent duplicates.
[11:00] <Banana> This is a rough estimation I made browsing through the activity logs for this particular bug but out of the 52 duplicates it seems that at least a dozen where reported *after* the fix released status changed (and I'm not counting people keeping on commenting on a bug marked as duplicate).
[11:01] <Banana> And I suspect this must happen often when nearing a release, when many testers are reporting bugs and fixes are commited quickly.
[11:04] <dholbach> hey everybody
[11:05] <dholbach> if I subscribe seb128 to a bug, is he going to get a bug mail for it?
[11:09] <dholbach> ok... bug 176805
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 176805 in beeseek "Hive should log its activity" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176805
[11:09] <dholbach> ok... bug 176085
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 176085 in malone "subscribing someone should send a notification email right away" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176085
[11:09] <dholbach> nevermind
[11:09] <dholbach> :-(
[12:06] <techno_freak> hi, i have a problem with bug #183958. This bug is on BBox which some how got included in projects of Ubuntu India Loco team and when some one reported the bug the whole team started getting the bug mails. now some one marked it as a security issue and no one is able to view this bug at all.
[12:07] <techno_freak> people in bug control tried to help me unsubscribe the team from this bug and the team admin as well, but it is marked private for all of us. can some one help in fixing this?
[12:10] <jdstrand> I'll pipe in and say as a member of the security team, I am not able to see the bug either
[12:10] <Hobbsee> i'ts a very sekrit bug.
[12:38] <ubotu> Bug 183958 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/183958 is private
[12:49] <TomaszD> hey carlos, after the last langpack update synaptic decided to ignore the .desktop file translation in the .po file and use the one included in the .desktop file, can you check this?
[13:00] <carlos> TomaszD: mirv already told us about that problem at #ubuntu-translators channel, he's handling it with seb to see whether is a problem with the patch to handle menu translations
[13:00]  * carlos -> lunch
[13:00] <TomaszD> ok thanks
[16:18] <mc___> Should you get karma for bzr commits?
[16:19] <mc___> I'm using the same email address for the commits as in launchpad.
[16:23] <kiko> mc___, only if you push the branch to launchpad.
[16:23] <kiko> I'm not sure karma is assigned to commits -- thumper would know. I know there's karma for branches, but not sure at what level
[16:24] <wewek> hello, can Launchpad handle with XLIFF files?
[16:24] <BUGabund1> guys where do I report bugs against http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq ?
[16:25] <intellectronica> BUGabund1: https://launchpad.net/shipit
[16:25] <BUGabund1> thanks
[16:25] <BUGabund1> found it intellectronica
[16:25] <wewek> http://developers.sun.com/dev/gadc/technicalpublications/articles/xliff.html
[16:30] <BUGabund1> sent bug 201458
[16:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201458 in shipit "site has a closed source PDF and lacks a link to help.u.c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201458
[16:39] <wewek> can Launchpad handle with XLIFF files?
[16:41] <ubotu> New bug: #201458 in shipit "site has a closed source PDF and lacks a link to help.u.c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201458
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #201498 in launchpad-answers "subscribe someone else to a question in Answers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201498
[18:28] <ubotu> New bug: #201502 in launchpad-answers "Should be able to open a new question by email" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201502
[19:10] <scode> Is launchpard only intended for registering pre-existing upstream projects? Because the only project/product registration feature I can find is the upstream registration form. Am I missing something?
[19:11] <qense> you can also register your own project to hose at lp
[19:12] <scode> Using the same form, just not filling in the optional upstream stuff? Is that the intended use?
[19:13] <qense> with the upstream stuff you mean sourceforge pages and things like that?
[19:13] <qense> they can stay blank
[19:14] <scode> Yes. Ok.
[19:14] <scode> Thanks.
[19:28] <Mez> is it me, or do i have to login to lp.net then edge.lp.net
[19:28] <qense> yes
[19:28] <qense> that has to be done by everyone
[19:29] <Mez> ah, ok, hehe
[19:29] <Mez> I didnt used to
[19:29] <Mez> kinda weird logging in twice
[19:39] <_MMA_> LP having issues? I'm getting "Cant resolve host" errors when trying to branch.
[19:46] <CaioAlonso> hi, is there anyone that can help me with the new lp's mailing list?
[19:47] <kiko> CaioAlonso, yes.
[19:47] <kiko> _MMA_, not that I know of -- check your DNS.
[19:47] <No`> evening all
[19:47] <kiko> oh gar
[19:47] <CaioAlonso> No`, explain to kiko the problem
[19:48] <No`> I've registered 2 teams to "Mailing List Beta Testers" Team, and applied for a ML right after it's been approved
[19:48] <No`> how long would it take to have these ML up and running, please?
[19:53] <kiko> No`, -beta memberships are usually processed nightly.
[19:54] <No`> kiko: ok, but the teams are already members of the meta-beta-team
[19:54] <No`> we're now waiting for the mailing-lists to be up
[19:54] <No`> "The application for this team's mailing list is pending approval."
[19:55] <kiko> Rinchen, do you know who processes mailing list approvals?
[19:55] <Rinchen> kiko, osas
[19:55] <Rinchen> kiko, so, herb
[19:56] <kiko> herb!
[19:56] <Rinchen> kiko, since mthaddon is out
[19:56] <kiko> we never used to let tom take vacation!
[19:56] <Rinchen> kiko, well, after that incident with the elephant and the suntan lotion, we've been a bit more amenable.
[19:56] <herb> Rinchen! kiko!
[19:57] <Rinchen> :-D
[19:57] <Rinchen> herb, seems like you may have some mailing list approvals to approve
[19:58] <herb> Rinchen: hmm. Tom didn't go over mailing list approvals with me.
[19:58] <herb> Rinchen: I'm sure I can figure it out though.
[20:01] <herb> Rinchen: I know how to do it.  where do I find a list of mailinglists that need approvals?
[20:02] <Rinchen> herb, great question. I don't know. I'd have to ask barry who's not around.  It's not there in the UI?
[20:02] <Rinchen> herb, I never asked about it since it was only a beta measure that was to be removed
[20:02] <gaten> im having problems logging into the ubuntu wiki w/ my lauchpad account info. it keeps telling me incorrect password (even after I've changed it). is there anyway to diagnose this further?
[20:03] <Rinchen> gaten, interesting.  You might try logging out of Launchpad, logging back in, and then logging into the wiki. 
[20:03] <matsubara> herb: launchpad.net/+mailinglists
[20:03] <Rinchen> gaten, it's possible that you have something amiss in your LP account
[20:03] <gaten> Rinchen: tried that. any way to check LP?
[20:04] <Rinchen> gaten, well, if you can log into LP, then all should be well. We use the same info for the wiki
[20:04]  * Rinchen <- phone
[20:05] <matsubara> gaten: have you disabled your wiki account in the UserPreferences section?
[20:05] <gaten> Rinchen: that's what i thought. and if i try to creat an account from the wiki page w/ my lp email address while I'm logged in, it tells me i'm already logged in, so it seems like it should work
[20:05] <gaten> matsubara: on LP? hmm
[20:06] <matsubara> in the wiki
[20:06] <matsubara> gaten: ^
[20:06] <gaten> matsubara: i cant login to any wiki. even mine
[20:07] <No`> gaten: check if you didn't change keyboard mapping? ;)
[20:08] <ubotu> New bug: #201532 in malone "Rename bug contact to bug supervisor in UI and code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201532
[20:08] <gaten> No`: heh, just copied and pasted the passwd, no go
[20:08] <gaten> i cant even login to my own wiki from the LP page...
[20:09] <herb> matsubara: url didn't work for me... Forbidden
[20:16] <matsubara> gaten: I think you're having the same problem as described in https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/23993. please file a new question and I'll ask someone from IS to check your account. 
[20:16] <gaten> matsubara: ok thank you
[20:17] <matsubara> gaten: include the question the wiki you're trying to access, help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com. thanks
[20:17] <matsubara> s/include/include in/
[20:17] <gaten> matsubara: got it
[20:22] <gaten> matsubara: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26907
[20:32] <wewek> can Launchpad handle with XLIFF files?
[20:38] <kiko> wewek, not natively yet.
[20:43] <wewek> kiko: ok, thx
[21:28] <jisakiel> greetings... could somebody help me a little bit with setting launchpad as the bugtracker for a project?
[21:29] <kiko> jisakiel, sure thing. what's up?
[21:30] <jisakiel> txs... I'm the "admin" of hdlorean project (by now just a uni project for a group of students), and we're trying to setup launchpad to be the bugtracker for it
[21:30] <jisakiel> but I cannot seem to find where or how do I do that
[21:31] <jisakiel> we have some groups registered, branchs associated to each group, a core "~hdlorean" group, and two "main" branches, unstable and trunk
[21:31] <jisakiel> where trunk is the registered "main" branch
[21:33] <jisakiel> yet, when I try to "fil a bug" it tells me that it's not registered to any upstream bugtracker (which makes sense), but I don't know how to "activate" launchpad to track my bugs
[21:33] <jisakiel> or where (as I can't seem to find info anywhere, ncht)
[21:34] <Fujitsu> jisakiel: Find the `Change details' button for the project.
[21:34] <Fujitsu> On that page, about half-way down (IIRC) is the bugtracker selector.
[21:34] <CaioAlonso> thanks a lot for approving pyroom's mailing list :)
[21:34] <jisakiel> gosh :S
[21:35] <jisakiel> so embarrased :D, I just skipped it while reading the hundreds of pages
[21:35] <jisakiel> txs a lot ^^
[21:35] <Fujitsu> kiko: Shouldn't that be somewhere under the Bugs tab?
[21:35] <poolie> i wonder why someone registered https://edge.launchpad.net/~beeseek-irc-cloaks
[21:36] <Fujitsu> poolie: Same reason we have an Ubuntu one. To keep track of things.
[21:37] <Fujitsu> Though it's more important for Ubuntu, because there are hundreds...
[21:37] <jisakiel> [again, txs a lot... cya ^^]
[21:37] <poolie> Fujitsu: so it's just being used purely to keep a list of people? interesting
[21:38] <Fujitsu> poolie: Quite a lot of teams are used for just that.
[21:58] <mpt> Gooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[22:04] <kiko> morning mpt
[22:04] <kiko> mpt, http://async.com.br/~kiko/s.png
[22:06] <mpt> heh
[22:07] <mpt> kiko, that's a bunch of excellent ideas
[22:07] <mpt> They could do with a bit of condensing though, I think
[22:07] <kiko> mpt, I'm trying to reduce the text
[22:07] <kiko> to make it less writing
[22:08] <mpt> good
[22:08] <mpt> branch URL?
[22:09] <kiko> it will be at bzr+ssh://devpad.canonical.com/code/kiko/launchpad/dirt-cheap-guided-product-registration/
[22:09] <mpt> ok, let me know when it's pushed
[22:14] <kiko> mpt, can I make that page 1-column?
[22:15] <mpt> sure
[22:16] <mpt> The branch that makes ShipIt use OpenID should also remove the "Do you want an Ubuntu CD?" section from this page
[22:16] <mpt> because the former will obviate the latter
[22:17] <kiko> mpt, ha ha ha. I believe you.
[22:18] <kiko> mpt, reload the page
[22:18] <mpt> In the absence of stats from mthaddon, what other choice do you have? ;-)
[22:18] <mpt> ahhhh
[22:19] <mpt> The project registration page is an example of a page that shouldn't have tabs, probably
[22:20] <mpt> Ok, now that the page is on one screenful, it's more obvious that the form isn't here, causing people to madly scan for the link that'll get them to the form
[22:20] <kiko> mpt, I got them now! :)
[22:20] <kiko> mpt, to be honest, only 5 people successfully use that page per day
[22:21] <kiko> so that's not /that/ visible
[22:21] <mpt> How many unsuccessfully?
[22:22] <kiko> mpt, more than I have dates for this evening. I'm not going to fix the form tonight!
[22:24] <mpt> Have you pushed the branch?
[22:26] <kiko> mpt, well, I actually can't, because it's already stuck in PQM for a pre-requisite change, but I'll give you a diff, hang on
[22:26] <kiko> https://pastebin.canonical.com/3188/
[22:27] <mpt> This new page is in a branch that's in the PQM queue?
[22:27] <kiko> mpt, it's uncommitted.
[22:27] <mpt> oh I see
[22:27] <mpt> ok
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #201605 in launchpad "Deleting email on 'Change e-mail settings'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201605
[23:48] <mpt> kiko, "supervisor", eh
[23:49] <mpt> Did the Bugs team brainstorm possible terms for the artists-formerly-known-as-bug-contacts?
[23:51] <mpt> oh, never mind, now I've read bug 201532
[23:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201532 in malone "Rename bug contact to bug supervisor in UI and code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201532