[01:31] <xq> Thanks L hehe
[01:32] <LjL> xq, sorry, sending half-automated :)
[01:32] <LjL> (i.e. manually but with brain half off =)
[01:33] <LjL> too many channels
[01:34] <xq> ah
[01:34] <xq> ouch
[02:47] <r2d2rogers> Good evening.
[02:47] <LjL> hello there
[02:48] <r2d2rogers> I got your memo
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[02:48] <LjL> good, thanks for coming :)
[02:48] <r2d2rogers> reading the suggested links
[02:48] <r2d2rogers> welcome
[02:49] <r2d2rogers> right now I'm the Alt Op for our channel
[02:49] <r2d2rogers> trying to share the load a bit
[02:49] <LjL> no hurry, your channel seems to be set up pretty well. we were mostly eager to let contacts know about this channel and the irc team
[02:49] <r2d2rogers> great
[02:50] <r2d2rogers> I am the second contact for the team, the founding contact person dropped out a couple of weeks ago
[02:51] <r2d2rogers> I'll drop back in if I have any questions, at least i'll have the scrollback in here now to read up on
[02:54] <LjL> r2d2rogers: the only little thing about your channel is that no contact is listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - though that's hardly a big deal, and if you prefer to have no contact listed, i see no issue with that
[02:55] <r2d2rogers> thanks for pointing that out
[02:55] <r2d2rogers> I'll check with our admin to see which he prefers, he or me ;)
[02:56] <no0tic> LjL, need to change #ubuntu-hardened contact on that page, it's now keescook
[02:58] <r2d2rogers> Changed...
[02:58] <r2d2rogers> for -us-la
[02:59] <LjL> no0tic: send him memoserv
[02:59] <LjL> sent
[03:00] <r2d2rogers> how many on the ubuntu irc team use irssi?
[03:00] <no0tic> 1 here
[03:00] <tritium> +1
[03:00] <r2d2rogers> i'm a fan of ssh and screen so it was an easy pick for me
[03:01] <nalioth> r2d2rogers: you'd be better off asking how many "do not"
[03:01] <r2d2rogers> gotcha
[03:01] <r2d2rogers> I'm been playing with libnotify for irssi
[03:01] <r2d2rogers> i've...
[03:01] <LjL> konversation here
[03:02] <no0tic> r2d2rogers, libnotify for irssi to do what?
[03:02] <r2d2rogers> when a hilight is triggered I get a pop up on my screen
[03:02] <r2d2rogers> it's similar to fnotify.
[03:02] <r2d2rogers> but doesn't require 2 ssh sessions
[03:03] <LjL> no0tic: these irssi users go to such great lengths to make their text-mode client behave like a GUI one.
[03:03] <LjL> i don't understand them.
[03:03] <r2d2rogers> I just like to be plugged in when I'm attached
[03:04] <r2d2rogers> and I like to be responsive to new people in our channel
[03:04] <no0tic> LjL, me too
[03:04] <no0tic> LjL, I recreated a nice gui here :)
[03:07] <RoAkSoAx> xD
[03:08] <r2d2rogers> LjL: Robdgreat is our main IRC admin, I asked him to join, and I'll be sharing the links with him
[03:09] <RoAkSoAx> which one is better, irssi or bitchx, and why?
[03:11] <LjL> hi Robdgreat
[03:11] <Robdgreat> Hello there
[03:11] <LjL> RoAkSoAx, to begin with, some of BitchX's quit messages would get you banned from #ubuntu :)
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> LjL: yeah i saw it :S xD
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> bbut.. which one is the best?
[03:13] <nalioth> bx is so dated
[03:13] <LjL> !best
[03:13] <ubotwo> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[03:13] <LjL> nalioth: you miss it huh
[03:13] <RoAkSoAx> haha
[03:13] <nalioth> LjL: i used it for about 3 minutes way back in 97
[03:13] <nalioth> no, i don't miss it
[03:14] <RoAkSoAx> is there any psyBNC policy or something?
[03:15] <LjL> a policy against it? no, idle as much as you like
[03:15] <LjL> just don't
[03:15] <LjL> !away
[03:15] <ubotwo> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[03:15] <RoAkSoAx> yep, i know no away messages
[03:16] <RoAkSoAx> LjL and what about bots?
[03:17] <LjL> not in #ubuntu* channels unless authorized by the channel contacts
[03:18] <nalioth> not in #*buntu* channels
[03:19] <RoAkSoAx> but for example is there any global policy, for example, im part of the team of #ubuntu-es, soy i was hthinking it would be good to have a bot to control the channel
[03:19] <r2d2rogers> We have a bot in -us-la that we are playing with mostly.
[03:21] <LjL> RoAkSoAx, but -es *has* a bot, it's botijo
[03:21] <LjL> @bot
[03:21] <LjL> botijo: bot
[03:21] <LjL> well perhaps it's sleeping
[03:22] <LjL> or bots are on strike these days
[03:22] <RoAkSoAx> LjL yeah i know, but it is for information, i mean for channel control
[03:22] <RoAkSoAx> agains flood and those things
[03:22] <RoAkSoAx> is there any special policy
[03:22] <RoAkSoAx> or something
[03:22] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: we have such a bot, we've been discussing about introducing it in -es
[03:23] <RoAkSoAx> LjL: yeah, i was talking to P3L1C4N0 about having that kind of bot too
[03:23] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: see floodbot* in #ubuntu
[03:23] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: i've mentioned that to pelicano too, he seemed supportive
[03:23] <LjL> we should talk about it again
[03:24] <RoAkSoAx> yeah we should i believe it is a good thing to consider
[03:25] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: yes. honestly, there's just too much Enter-pressing in -es.
[03:25] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, it's a great idea, we have one in #ubuntu-it and does a great job
[03:25] <r2d2rogers> LjL: would you know the status of lobobot_4 ?
[03:25] <LjL> r2d2rogers: no, no idea, those aren't managed by us
[03:25] <r2d2rogers> cool
[03:25] <r2d2rogers> just thought i'd check <G>
[03:26] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic: that should be done then.. we will have to talk to P3L1C4N0
[03:26]  * r2d2rogers resolves to try and do better about his enter pressing.
[03:28] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: remind me about it tomorrow, we can have a little opinion shuffling in -es-ops
[03:28]  * LjL goes to bed
[03:28] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic: he told me that if i wanted to i could try configuring one and see what happens, that's why i as asking if there was some kind of policy
[03:28] <RoAkSoAx> LjL: ok i will
[03:28] <LjL> RoAkSoAx: well, policy... the bot needs +o to begin with
[03:29] <RoAkSoAx> LjL: yeah but, i ment like.. what should be configured, against what, with kind of bot is bet, like mootbot, eggdrop, etc.. and those kind of things
[07:12] <dholbach> hey guys
[07:13] <dholbach> LjL let me know that I should fix the usage of #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-desktop - I just updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat to let everybody know that those channels are not my main reponsibilities any more
[07:14] <dholbach> sent him a memo too :)
[07:14] <dholbach> thanks guys
[07:14] <dholbach> keep it up
[10:49] <yann2> morning
[10:49] <yann2> ubuntu-fr contact here
[10:49] <yann2> available for report :)
[15:02] <LjL> International Ubuntu IRC operators channel | The IRC Team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | Support in #ubuntu etc. | The channel is multilingual, but English is preferred | Regardless of language, please write clearly (think "Babelfish") | #ubuntu-meta to report difficult support questions | Ubotu is DOWN, please ask here if you need a backup bot | So is botijo (and we have no backup)
[15:02] <LjL> gnn
[16:24]  * fetova o/
[16:24] <Robdgreat> o/
[16:24]  * LjL hasn't quite understood yet what o/ is exactly :P
[16:24] <PriceChild> LjL: somone waving
[16:25] <LjL> ah
[16:25] <LjL> PriceChild: usually i do that using the kick button
[16:25] <PriceChild> :O
[16:25] <LjL> well, only with people i'm very familiar with :P
[16:32] <Pici> o/
[16:49] <LjL> either too few or too many botijos, nice :)
[16:50] <LjL> @bot
[16:50] <botijo_> Soy yo! botijo el bot de Ubuntu-es. Para mas info de mi y como usarme mira: http://doc.ubuntu-es.org/Proyecto:Botijo
[17:40] <juliux_> LjL, you forgot to send me a memo for #xubuntu-de ;)
[17:41] <LjL> juliux_ :P sorry i was intending to send a single memo, but in your case i messed up
[17:42] <LjL> and i didn't mention #xubuntu-de because it's not listed on the IRC page i guess :)
[17:42] <juliux_> LjL, for the german ubuntu channels we have an extra irc team with an extra irc op channel #ubuntu-de-op ;)
[17:43] <juliux_> LjL, can youn change something on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat ?
[17:43] <RoAkSoAx> whois no0tic
[17:43] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[17:43] <LjL> juliux_, i know and that's a good thing (by the way, could you made #ubuntu-de-ops a redirect to #ubuntu-de-op if you use that channel for complains and stuff? so the channel naming is a bit more uniform)
[17:43] <juliux_> sorry found the edit button
[17:43] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, no0tic is me
[17:44] <LjL> juliux_: i can certainly change it for you if you like
[17:44] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic: -es-ops ;)
[17:44] <juliux_> LjL, i found no edit button for that page
[17:44] <juliux_> LjL, #ubuntu-de-treffpunkt is dead we have no #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[17:45] <LjL> juliux_, do you? last time it wasn't too clear to me
[17:45] <juliux_> yes its dead
[17:45] <LjL> ok
[17:45] <juliux_> we forward everybody to #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[17:46] <LjL> juliux_, why is -de-offtopic private? not being a main channel, i guess it's not a huge issue, but why have "secret societies" :P
[17:46] <juliux_> #ubuntu-de-ops register with forward to #ubuntu-de-op ;)
[17:46] <juliux_> LjL, do you no neoxan and #chaostreffpunkt?
[17:46] <juliux_> s/now/no
[17:46] <juliux_> know
[17:47] <LjL> juliux_: i know about the former, i remember that channel name but don't really know anything about it
[17:47] <juliux_> ok
[17:47] <juliux_> that is the reason;)
[17:47] <juliux_> that is why #ubuntu-de-offtopic is +m
[17:48] <LjL> juliux_: yep i know about the +m and voicing system, just /cs info and the AL being private i didn't notice before
[17:48] <juliux_> ok
[17:48] <LjL> juliux_: so, i add #xubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de-offtopic, remove #ubuntu-de-treffpunk and... as a contact, i leave smurf, put both of you, or what?
[17:49] <juliux_> smurf is only for #ubuntu-de
[17:49] <juliux_> can you link to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-de-irc-op
[17:49] <LjL> juliux_: he's the one currently mentioned for -de, -de-treffpunkt and #edubuntu-de
[17:50] <LjL> i guess i can yes
[17:50] <juliux_> for #edubuntu-de smurf was never a contact
[17:50] <juliux_> same for #xubuntu-de
[17:50] <juliux_> so add me and smurf and the launchpad group
[17:52] <LjL> juliux_: the kubuntu channels are completely separate, is that correct?
[17:52] <juliux_> yes
[18:33] <jpatrick> botijo: you retard
[18:35] <jpatrick> LjL: o/
[18:37] <PriceChild> LjL: that was quick
[18:39] <LjL> back i am, hopefully for good
[18:39] <LjL> PriceChild: well replacing a PSU is four (un)screwings and four (un)pluggins
[18:39] <LjL> and the new & improved server now even takes shorter than 10 minutes to boot :)
[18:40] <PriceChild> LjL: but it didn't break on the way
[18:42] <LjL> PriceChild: no, although a screw nearly fell into the fan hole
[18:42] <LjL> and that may be unnice
[18:42] <PriceChild> ouch
[18:43] <LjL> also, what seeker says
[21:48] <mick_home> hi everyone
[21:48] <nalioth> hi mick_home
[21:49] <mick_home> i just checked /msg ChanServ info #ubuntu-sparc  <-- looks abandoned
[21:49] <mick_home> i'd like to take over if possible (or have someone else do it)
[21:50] <nalioth> what do you plan on doing there?  :D
[21:50] <mick_home> don't really care, but sparc is O.T. for #ubuntu
[21:50] <nalioth> is it?
[21:50] <mick_home> well, i'd like to have a place on irc for sparc related talk about ubuntu
[21:50] <nalioth> i thought canonical officially supported sparc
[21:50] <mick_home> something like changing the /topic would be a start
[21:50] <mick_home> nalioth: they do - correct
[21:51] <nalioth> then it's on topic for #ubuntu
[21:51] <mick_home> but talking about the sparc stuff in #ubuntu was deemed OT
[21:51] <mick_home> ok, fine then
[21:51] <mick_home> wfm then
[21:52] <mick_home> PriceChild: not exactly a huge crowd :-P
[21:53] <mick_home> but, fine - i'll /leave #ubuntu-sparc -- but last time i brought it up in #ubuntu (a sparc questtttion) -- i was actually told to use #ubuntu-sparc
[21:53] <nalioth> have you spoken with the channel registrant?
[21:55] <mick_home> ubotu*	Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jbailey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <mick_home> i tried to do a "seen jbailey"
[21:57] <ompaul> mick_home, they could be on holidays - they were last seen on the network a couple of weeks ago
[21:57] <mick_home> ok
[21:58] <Pici> And ubotu has no !seen feature anyway ;)
[21:58] <mick_home> ah ok
[21:59] <Pici> Tracking the coming and goings of all the people in #ubuntu would not end well :p
[21:59] <mick_home> a bot could handle that just fine - but whatever :-P
[21:59] <mick_home> probably not worth talking about
[21:59] <mick_home> ;)
[22:02] <ompaul> mick_home, the bot could but the disk space and processor and questions that would be asked of it would be a heavy load for any server :)
[22:02] <ompaul> bad enough as it is
[22:03] <mick_home> well, understood :)
[22:04]  * ompaul wonders what the attraction for him of listening to Motörhead is
[22:04]  * ompaul thinks -offtopic would be more fun