Ubuletteanother storm00:00
Ubulettewith heavy rain falling horizontally00:01
asaci know what you mean00:18
ubotuMozilla bug 422122 in Build & Release "Tracking bug for Build and Release of FF" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42212200:22
shirishasac: were u able to get where the regression window is in epiphany?01:05
[reed]ridiculous numbers of package upgrades01:33
[reed]on my hardy laptop01:33
asac[reed]: welcome to the edge ;)06:42
asacbug 19903007:09
asac[reed]: thats x61 right? i had to manually tweak some acpi stuff to get powersave facitilities properly working (e.g. dimming backlight on battery and scaling down CPU et al) ... do you see that as well?07:11
asac[reed]: i think the package flood was the gnome 2.22.0 upgrade07:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 199030 in scim "Can't close SCIM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19903007:24
asac[reed]: ok we decided that ca-certificates should go into default install08:16
asac[reed]: its strange. i see the epiphany regression in 1.9.b3pre builds (2nd feb) ... as well as in 1.9b4pre builds08:55
asacbut i don't see it when building the final b3 tag08:55
asacwas there a minibranch or something?08:55
[reed]asac: SCIM is crazy09:15
[reed]it's super-annoying09:15
[reed]I still have not figured how to turn it off09:15
[reed]I don't want to change my keyword layout09:15
[reed]leave me alone!09:15
[reed]and I have "USA" on my screensaver password dialog09:16
[reed]kinda crazy09:16
asac[reed]: yes thats a blocker09:16
[reed]is there a bug on ca-certificates ?09:16
asacwe will just add it to seeds09:16
asac[reed]: do you still see scim issues?09:17
asacfor me it is gone since recent upgrades09:17
[reed]I disabled all the stupid keyboard shortcuts09:17
asacwe just talked about that in platform team meeting09:17
[reed]I kept hitting shift-space09:17
[reed]or whatever09:17
asacctrl-space it is09:17
[reed]typing in other languages is not fun09:18
asacyes. it definitly is fixed for new installs and gutsy->hardy upgrades now09:18
asacwhich doesn't help you i guess :)09:18
asaclet me check ... a minute09:19
asacthe guy is probably asleep right now09:27
asac[reed]: so was there a minibranch for beta3? remember?09:44
[reed]yes, we create a minibranch for all releases, but it's very rare we take any changes on the minibranch that aren't on trunk09:45
[reed]like, almost never happens09:45
asacyeah ... what was the name?09:45
asacnothing of concern on it09:46
asacstill dont get whats going on :) ... at least my local ephy build appears to be severly busted11:37
asac[reed]: reed is every commit _before_ the b3 -> b4 bump actually part of b3?11:44
asacok ... which commit is the first to consider "after tagging"?11:44
* asac looking at bonsai11:44
asacare the nsXULDocument.cpp landings part of b3?11:45
[reed]anything after 2008-02-04 17:20 PST ?11:45
[reed]anything after 2008-02-04 17:20 PST is part of b411:45
asacwhat CET time is that?11:45
asac@time PST11:45
asacubulette reported that regression at 22:00 CET ... that is 21:00 UTC?11:46
asacgiven that its not in beta 3, how much time is there left?11:46
asacthat doesn't go together with me11:46
asacUbulette: you sure you don't see that File/Close issue in beta 3?11:47
asacmaybe thats something else than what i am now seeing?11:47
asacif press ctrl+w multiple times in non-debug builds it crashes11:48
asacin debug builds it crashes on first attempt11:48
asac@time America/Pacific11:49
asac@time America/Los_Angeles11:49
ubotuCurrent time in America/Los_Angeles: March 12 2008, 04:49:59 - Next meeting: Server Team in 9 hours 10 minutes11:49
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: March 12 2008, 11:50:11 - Next meeting: Server Team in 9 hours 9 minutes11:50
asacthats 7 hours11:50
asac22 - 7 = 150011:50
[reed]asac: daylight savings time!11:50
asacthats bogus for sure11:50
[reed]don't forget we're an hour different now11:50
asacdid US already go back to non DST?11:50
[reed]no, we're on DST11:50
asacwe are as well11:50
asacnext week we will go off11:51
[reed]how confusing11:51
asacwhat is DST? -1? or +1?11:51
asacanyway ... even if i substract another 2 hours i get 170011:52
asacthats insane11:52
asacimo that should be trashed11:52
asaccompletely outdated11:52
asacnobody starts to work at 0700 here11:52
asac(which was true 20 years ago)11:52
* asac sticks his head in the sand11:53
* asac raises his head and takes a break while this is buildin11:54
asacUbulette: tell me that you tweaked the date in your paste to confuse me. you cannot have this regression at that time as it was still b311:55
asac20:06 < Ubulette> Feb 04 22:00:44 <Ubulette>      epi doesn't quit on "File / Close"11:55
asac20:06 < Ubulette> Mar 01 02:13:30 <Ubulette>      asac, File / Close in Epiphany11:55
[reed]proper xdg support!12:21
[reed]for download directory12:22
[reed]just needs approval12:22
asacalso an option to auto download to folder by mime-type?12:22
[reed]patches have review, finally12:22
asace.g. video, music, documents?12:22
[reed]hmm, I don't think so12:22
asacbecause we need that for midbrowser12:22
asacbut i think that could be a hidden option12:23
[reed]but this was the last big thing that Windows and Mac had correct12:23
[reed]but Linux didn't12:23
[reed]system bz2 support13:18
[reed]landed finally13:18
armin76yay, it broke :P14:59
[reed]only breaks Solaris14:59
shirishany updates to b4 guys for hardy?17:31
shirishasac: any closer to finding that regression?17:40
* shirish looking at the irclogs to know what asac was talking about :)17:49
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: March 12 2008, 17:52:33 - Next meeting: Server Team in 3 hours 7 minutes17:52
shirishUbulette: hey :)18:18
Ubuletteasac, thunderbird guys recommend us to build everything with --enable-static, incl ff3, xul18:20
Ubulettesee mozilla bug 42039118:22
ubotuMozilla bug 420391 in Build Config "unix/packages-static for thunderbird (trunk)" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42039118:23
Ubulettei will rename my file to unix/packages and keep it in my branch as they seems reluctant to accept it18:23
Ubuletteit works for me (tm)18:24
shirishUbulette: no resolution in sight for us getting ffbr18:29
shirishI meant ffb418:31
Ubulettedepends of what we want to fix18:31
Ubuletteb4~rc1 has been in my ppa for a while already18:32
Ubulettethere's no difference with b4 final18:32
shirishI wanted from official repository, the move from ffb3 to ffb4, the 900 odd enhancements they say which are there.18:35
shirishthe memory leaks which have been curtailed.18:35
shirishI know asac has been trying to get the epiphany bug fixed, only when that's fixed can something be done :(18:36
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/18:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swfdec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:52
Ubulettesorry, i don't have time to fix many bugs, i have a job you know...18:54
shirishUbulette: I know, same here and not skilled like u :)18:55
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Ubuletteasac, reminder for mozilla bug 42116819:44
Ubulette(ff3 sdk)19:44
armin76mozilla bug 42116819:47
ubotuMozilla bug 421168 in Build Config "firefox using --with-libxul-sdk doesn't install .idl/.h on make install" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42116819:47
Ubuletteasac, ff3b4 crashes after a while, even when idle for hours19:48
carlosasac: hi, around?19:54
asaccarlos: yes20:47
asaccarlos: still there?20:47
asacUbulette: have a backtrace?20:47
asacUbulette: can you tell he how you could see the regression even before b4 development started?20:48
Ubulettenope. i wish ppa has dbgsym20:48
Ubulettewhat regression?20:48
asacfile/close in ephy20:49
asacit works in b320:49
asacbut it doesn't in b420:49
asacyou complained about that issue on feb 04 22:00 (CET)20:50
asacwhich is _before_ b3 was tagged20:50
Ubuletteit didn't when I tried at that date20:50
Ubulette Sat Feb  2 17:16:09 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080130t1344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1)20:51
Ubulette Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1)20:52
Ubulettefrom my apt logs20:52
Ubulettehm no20:53
Ubulette Sat Feb  2 17:16:09 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080130t1344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) to 1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta120:53
Ubulette Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) to 1.9~b3~rc2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta120:54
Ubulette Tue Jan 29 21:28:42 2008: epiphany-gecko (2.21.4-0ubuntu5) to 2.21.90-0ubuntu120:54
Ubulette Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: epiphany-gecko (2.21.90-0ubuntu1) to 2.21.90-0ubuntu220:54
Ubuletteso at feb 04 22:00, i was running epiphany 2.21.90-0ubuntu1 with xul 1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta120:55
asacUbulette: hmm. maybe we should search for a commit that landed shortly before b3 and was backed out ... then landed again later :(20:57
Ubulettei don't know. I barely use epiphany so i don't know if the issue was always there or not20:59
* armin76 yawns21:04
carlosasac: hi, I just wanted to tell you that tomorrow we will do  testing upload for firefox using my patches so I should be able to provide you with a full set of .po files for xulrunner and firefox21:06
asaccarlos: great21:07
asacall locales?21:07
Ubulettedamn, I wondered why my pc was so slow today, the kernel only shows 1 proc21:08
carlosasac: yeah, the idea is to test everything and detect any remaining issues before we rollout the code to production21:09
asaccarlos: when will that be?21:10
carlosthe move to production?21:11
asac20 mar or something like that?21:11
carlosasac: well, I'm pushing to get it done later this week21:11
carloskiko asked me this kind of test before we do a cherry pick21:11
carlosso we don't need a second cherry pick if something changed21:12
carloswell, s/something changed/something is broken/21:14
asacUbulette: are the xul builds you did wiped from PPA?21:22
asacor are they still accessible in pool?21:22
asachmm ... apparently not21:24
armin76not plop accessible? :P21:24
armin76asac: you share the same .mozilla dir for ff2 and ff3?21:40
asaci don't share ... if the user uses ff2 he will use the same dir yes21:42
asacbut ff2 is not supported anymore21:42
asacits far from encouraged :)21:42
armin76okay, thanks21:44
armin76asac: you know you're getting bad deps on xul-1.9 on hppa and sparc? :P21:47
asacbad deps?21:49
armin76unmet deps21:49
armin76or whatever you call it :P21:49
asacyeah. i would try to fix that if xul would be the most pressing issue of those archs21:50
asacbut i guess there is a bunch more ;)21:50
asacdo you have a fix?21:50
armin76a fix me? :P21:51
armin76i don't even know why a gnome dep is needed :P21:51
asacyeah ... was worth a try21:51
cwong1asac: ping22:02
cwong1asac: firefox beta 4 is out, do you have time to update midbrowser to ff beta4?22:04
Ubulettearmin76, are you bored ?22:19
Ubuletteb4 is no longer able to finish loading some pages22:31
asaccwong1: we currently have a bad regression in beta 422:41
asaci don't think i have time to do that until i have fixed that22:41
asacso lets cross our finger22:42
cwong1asac:  ok thanks. Do you think it will be fixed by early next week?22:42
asaccannot tell. i hope to have it fixed by tomorrow22:43
asacjust need to find the bogus commit among a thousand commits or so :)22:44
cwong1ok  thanks.22:44
asacok regression window so far: 2008. == works22:45
asac2008. == broken22:45
Ubuletteit's tight, so it should be easy to track it down22:54
asacyes ... just need to confirm that i didn't mess something up here22:58
asaclost a bunch of time because of build tree breakage22:58
asace.g. testing against bogus xul22:58
asacwe need an archive with daily builds :) ... at least as  long as upstream doesn't release xulrunner22:59
Ubulettethey are working on it23:01
Ubulettemozilla bug 41518023:02
ubotuMozilla bug 415180 in Build & Release "Create XULRunner builds at major milestones of Firefox" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41518023:02
Ubulettewell, sort of23:02
asacbzg 39081323:02
asacbug 39081323:02
asachmmm private23:02
asacmozilla bug 39081323:02
asacmozilla bug 33153023:05
ubotuMozilla bug 331530 in Style System (CSS) "background painting and scrollbar code should use nsHTMLDocument::GetBody directly" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33153023:05
UbuletteI could archive my daily builds.. I just need more disk space23:05
asacmaybe i can copy them somewhere?23:06
asachow about uploading them to launchpad bugs?23:06
asacusing librarian for storage ;)23:06
asaci have the feeling that the above bug is related23:06
Ubuletteisn't it a kind of abuse ?23:06
asacabuse is not the right word: workaround23:07
asacit was a joke23:07
asacill think about it23:07
Ubulettebut I daily build only i38623:08
Ubuletteunless I start daily building in ppa23:08
asacbetter than nothing i'd say23:08
asacbut we need a solution23:08
asaci will dig around23:09
Ubulettea solution with dbgsym would be nice23:09
Ubulettei have them: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/minirepos/firefox-minefield/pool/xulrunner-1.9/23:10
UbuletteI need to drop that +bbot tag and move it to the build iteration instead23:12
asachi phoenix2423:14
asacapache license is ok23:14
asac(before i forget)23:15
phoenix24Hi asac!23:15
asacUbulette: yes23:15
phoenix24I'm good!23:15
asacUbulette: do we really need a full archive?23:15
phoenix24asac: Theres another confusion.. when extracting the latest CVS snapshot.23:16
Ubuletteasac, full archive of what ?23:16
asacapt archive i mean ... instead of just a single directory23:17
asac(though it shouldn't be much different)23:17
Ubulettesynaptic is not very good with multiple versions of multi-debs packages23:18
asacthats what i mean23:19
Ubuletteapt-get could be scripted a bit to achieve a fast regression search23:19
asaci don't mind about it being an archive23:19
asaci just want a directory with all those builds in :)23:19
asacmaybe even a tarball per build that contains all the debs23:19
asac(so its easier to download and find)23:19
Ubulettethe archive part is not very difficult23:19
Ubulettexul is about 100MB per day with dbgsym23:22
asacwith sources?23:23
asacthats 10 GB for 100 days :)23:24
asacwhats up with sm?23:25
Ubulettemostly broken23:25
asachehe ... no iam talking about the size ;)23:25
asacany other guess than the commit i named :)23:28
asacBug 41769923:29
asacmozilla Bug 41769923:29
ubotuMozilla bug 417699 in MailNews: Backend "Crash when start SeaMonkey MailNews and Thunderbird [@ nsXULTreeBuilder::SetTree ]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41769923:29
asacbut maybe its mozilla bug 41474723:31
ubotuMozilla bug 414747 in Extension/Theme Manager "Firefox crashes during Addons -> Find Update [@nsQueryInterface::operator()]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41474723:31
asacwhich was backed out right before b323:31
asacbut the weakref is just on the listener23:33
asacBug 41489423:34
asacmozilla Bug 41489423:34
ubotuMozilla bug 414894 in DOM "Remove content arena" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41489423:34
asacscratch that23:35
Ubulettecan't you shorten a bit more ?23:37
asacyeah :)23:38
asacafter doing more rebuilds23:38
asaclet me go to other room and see how far the build got23:38
asacscim is now back on me :/23:51
Ubulettedon't know, i'm using it for jp anyway23:51
Ubulettebut i've configured it to never be on my way when i don't need it23:52
asacbut i breaks my emacs usage23:52
asaci use ctrl+space to set a mark23:52
Ubulettechange the binding23:53
asacill remove scim for now and bug our scim guy :)23:53
asacthere should be a setting to not enable it at all23:54
asacok ... after restarting gnome session its gone :-P23:56
Ubulettefor some reason, I now have tamil installed while i only had fr/jp/cn before23:57
asacthats all "chinese" for me :)23:58

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