[00:00] <Ubulette> another storm
[00:01] <Ubulette> with heavy rain falling horizontally
[00:18] <asac> i know what you mean
[00:18] <asac> n8
[00:22] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 422122 in Build & Release "Tracking bug for Build and Release of FF 2.0.0.13" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422122
[01:05] <shirish> asac: were u able to get where the regression window is in epiphany?
[01:33] <[reed]> ridiculous numbers of package upgrades
[01:33] <[reed]> lol
[01:33] <[reed]> on my hardy laptop
[06:42] <asac> [reed]: welcome to the edge ;)
[07:09] <asac> bug 199030
[07:11] <asac> [reed]: thats x61 right? i had to manually tweak some acpi stuff to get powersave facitilities properly working (e.g. dimming backlight on battery and scaling down CPU et al) ... do you see that as well?
[07:14] <asac> [reed]: i think the package flood was the gnome 2.22.0 upgrade
[07:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 199030 in scim "Can't close SCIM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199030
[08:16] <asac> [reed]: ok we decided that ca-certificates should go into default install
[08:55] <asac> [reed]: its strange. i see the epiphany regression in 1.9.b3pre builds (2nd feb) ... as well as in 1.9b4pre builds
[08:55] <asac> but i don't see it when building the final b3 tag
[08:55] <asac> was there a minibranch or something?
[09:15] <[reed]> asac: SCIM is crazy
[09:15] <[reed]> it's super-annoying
[09:15] <[reed]> I still have not figured how to turn it off
[09:15] <[reed]> I don't want to change my keyword layout
[09:15] <[reed]> leave me alone!
[09:15] <[reed]> lol
[09:16] <[reed]> and I have "USA" on my screensaver password dialog
[09:16] <[reed]> kinda crazy
[09:16] <asac> [reed]: yes thats a blocker
[09:16] <[reed]> is there a bug on ca-certificates ?
[09:16] <asac> we will just add it to seeds
[09:17] <[reed]> k
[09:17] <asac> [reed]: do you still see scim issues?
[09:17] <asac> for me it is gone since recent upgrades
[09:17] <[reed]> I disabled all the stupid keyboard shortcuts
[09:17] <asac> we just talked about that in platform team meeting
[09:17] <[reed]> I kept hitting shift-space
[09:17] <[reed]> or whatever
[09:17] <[reed]> ctrl-space
[09:17] <asac> yeah
[09:17] <asac> ctrl-space it is
[09:18] <[reed]> typing in other languages is not fun
[09:18] <[reed]> ;)
[09:18] <asac> yes. it definitly is fixed for new installs and gutsy->hardy upgrades now
[09:18] <asac> which doesn't help you i guess :)
[09:19] <asac> let me check ... a minute
[09:27] <asac> the guy is probably asleep right now
[09:44] <asac> [reed]: so was there a minibranch for beta3? remember?
[09:45] <[reed]> yes, we create a minibranch for all releases, but it's very rare we take any changes on the minibranch that aren't on trunk
[09:45] <[reed]> like, almost never happens
[09:45] <asac> yeah ... what was the name?
[09:45] <[reed]> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_3.0b3:BuildNotes#Tags
[09:45] <[reed]> GECKO19b3_20080205_RELBRANCH
[09:46] <asac> nothing of concern on it
[09:46] <asac> damn
[11:37] <asac> still dont get whats going on :) ... at least my local ephy build appears to be severly busted
[11:44] <asac> [reed]: reed is every commit _before_ the b3 -> b4 bump actually part of b3?
[11:44] <[reed]> no
[11:44] <asac> ok ... which commit is the first to consider "after tagging"?
[11:44] <[reed]> looking
[11:44]  * asac looking at bonsai
[11:45] <asac> are the nsXULDocument.cpp landings part of b3?
[11:45] <[reed]> anything after 2008-02-04 17:20 PST ?
[11:45] <[reed]> anything after 2008-02-04 17:20 PST is part of b4
[11:45] <asac> what CET time is that?
[11:45] <asac> @time PST
[11:45] <[reed]> hmm
[11:46] <asac> ubulette reported that regression at 22:00 CET ... that is 21:00 UTC?
[11:46] <asac> given that its not in beta 3, how much time is there left?
[11:46] <asac> that doesn't go together with me
[11:47] <asac> Ubulette: you sure you don't see that File/Close issue in beta 3?
[11:47] <asac> maybe thats something else than what i am now seeing?
[11:48] <asac> if press ctrl+w multiple times in non-debug builds it crashes
[11:48] <asac> in debug builds it crashes on first attempt
[11:49] <asac> @time America/Pacific
[11:49] <asac> @time America/Los_Angeles
[11:49] <ubotu> Current time in America/Los_Angeles: March 12 2008, 04:49:59 - Next meeting: Server Team in 9 hours 10 minutes
[11:49] <asac> @time
[11:50] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: March 12 2008, 11:50:11 - Next meeting: Server Team in 9 hours 9 minutes
[11:50] <asac> thats 7 hours
[11:50] <armin76> @weather
[11:50] <asac> 22 - 7 = 1500
[11:50] <[reed]> asac: daylight savings time!
[11:50] <asac> thats bogus for sure
[11:50] <asac> hmm
[11:50] <[reed]> don't forget we're an hour different now
[11:50] <[reed]> :)
[11:50] <asac> did US already go back to non DST?
[11:50] <[reed]> no, we're on DST
[11:50] <asac> we are as well
[11:51] <asac> next week we will go off
[11:51] <[reed]> how confusing
[11:51] <asac> what is DST? -1? or +1?
[11:52] <[reed]> +1
[11:52] <asac> anyway ... even if i substract another 2 hours i get 1700
[11:52] <asac> thats insane
[11:52] <[reed]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
[11:52] <asac> imo that should be trashed
[11:52] <asac> (DST)
[11:52] <[reed]> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sommerzeit
[11:52] <asac> completely outdated
[11:52] <asac> nobody starts to work at 0700 here
[11:52] <asac> (which was true 20 years ago)
[11:53]  * asac sticks his head in the sand
[11:54]  * asac raises his head and takes a break while this is buildin
[11:55] <asac> Ubulette: tell me that you tweaked the date in your paste to confuse me. you cannot have this regression at that time as it was still b3
[11:55] <asac> 20:06 < Ubulette> Feb 04 22:00:44 <Ubulette>      epi doesn't quit on "File / Close"
[11:55] <asac> 20:06 < Ubulette> Mar 01 02:13:30 <Ubulette>      asac, File / Close in Epiphany
[12:21] <[reed]> woooooo
[12:21] <[reed]> proper xdg support!
[12:22] <[reed]> for download directory
[12:22] <asac> good
[12:22] <[reed]> just needs approval
[12:22] <asac> also an option to auto download to folder by mime-type?
[12:22] <[reed]> patches have review, finally
[12:22] <asac> e.g. video, music, documents?
[12:22] <[reed]> hmm, I don't think so
[12:22] <asac> ok
[12:22] <asac> because we need that for midbrowser
[12:23] <asac> but i think that could be a hidden option
[12:23] <[reed]> but this was the last big thing that Windows and Mac had correct
[12:23] <[reed]> but Linux didn't
[12:23] <[reed]> yay
[12:23] <asac> yeah
[12:28] <armin76> bumb
[13:18] <[reed]> system bz2 support
[13:18] <[reed]> landed finally
[14:18] <asac> yay
[14:59] <armin76> yay, it broke :P
[14:59] <[reed]> only breaks Solaris
[14:59] <[reed]> :p
[17:31] <shirish> any updates to b4 guys for hardy?
[17:40] <shirish> asac: any closer to finding that regression?
[17:49]  * shirish looking at the irclogs to know what asac was talking about :)
[17:52] <shirish> @time
[17:52] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: March 12 2008, 17:52:33 - Next meeting: Server Team in 3 hours 7 minutes
[18:18] <Ubulette> hi
[18:18] <shirish> Ubulette: hey :)
[18:20] <Ubulette> asac, thunderbird guys recommend us to build everything with --enable-static, incl ff3, xul
[18:20] <Ubulette> lol
[18:22] <Ubulette> see mozilla bug 420391
[18:23] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 420391 in Build Config "unix/packages-static for thunderbird (trunk)" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420391
[18:23] <Ubulette> i will rename my file to unix/packages and keep it in my branch as they seems reluctant to accept it
[18:24] <Ubulette> it works for me (tm)
[18:29] <shirish> Ubulette: no resolution in sight for us getting ffbr
[18:31] <shirish> I meant ffb4
[18:31] <Ubulette> depends of what we want to fix
[18:32] <Ubulette> b4~rc1 has been in my ppa for a while already
[18:32] <Ubulette> there's no difference with b4 final
[18:35] <shirish> I wanted from official repository, the move from ffb3 to ffb4, the 900 odd enhancements they say which are there.
[18:35] <shirish> the memory leaks which have been curtailed.
[18:36] <shirish> I know asac has been trying to get the epiphany bug fixed, only when that's fixed can something be done :(
[18:52] <shirish> !gnash
[18:52] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[18:52] <shirish> !swfdec
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swfdec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:54] <Ubulette> sorry, i don't have time to fix many bugs, i have a job you know...
[18:55] <shirish> Ubulette: I know, same here and not skilled like u :)
[19:44] <Ubulette> asac, reminder for mozilla bug 421168
[19:44] <Ubulette> (ff3 sdk)
[19:47] <armin76> mozilla bug 421168
[19:47] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 421168 in Build Config "firefox using --with-libxul-sdk doesn't install .idl/.h on make install" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421168
[19:48] <Ubulette> asac, ff3b4 crashes after a while, even when idle for hours
[19:54] <carlos> asac: hi, around?
[20:10] <Ubulette> http://www.osnews.com/story/19464
[20:47] <asac> carlos: yes
[20:47] <asac> carlos: still there?
[20:47] <asac> Ubulette: have a backtrace?
[20:48] <asac> Ubulette: can you tell he how you could see the regression even before b4 development started?
[20:48] <Ubulette> nope. i wish ppa has dbgsym
[20:48] <Ubulette> eh?
[20:48] <Ubulette> what regression?
[20:49] <asac> file/close in ephy
[20:49] <asac> it works in b3
[20:49] <asac> but it doesn't in b4
[20:50] <asac> you complained about that issue on feb 04 22:00 (CET)
[20:50] <asac> which is _before_ b3 was tagged
[20:50] <Ubulette> it didn't when I tried at that date
[20:51] <Ubulette>  Sat Feb  2 17:16:09 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080130t1344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1)
[20:52] <Ubulette>  Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1)
[20:52] <Ubulette> from my apt logs
[20:53] <Ubulette> hm no
[20:53] <Ubulette>  Sat Feb  2 17:16:09 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080130t1344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) to 1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1
[20:54] <Ubulette>  Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1) to 1.9~b3~rc2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1
[20:54] <Ubulette>  Tue Jan 29 21:28:42 2008: epiphany-gecko (2.21.4-0ubuntu5) to 2.21.90-0ubuntu1
[20:54] <Ubulette>  Wed Feb  6 01:23:04 2008: epiphany-gecko (2.21.90-0ubuntu1) to 2.21.90-0ubuntu2
[20:55] <Ubulette> so at feb 04 22:00, i was running epiphany 2.21.90-0ubuntu1 with xul 1.9~b3~cvs20080201t1039+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1
[20:57] <asac> Ubulette: hmm. maybe we should search for a commit that landed shortly before b3 and was backed out ... then landed again later :(
[20:59] <Ubulette> i don't know. I barely use epiphany so i don't know if the issue was always there or not
[21:04]  * armin76 yawns
[21:06] <carlos> asac: hi, I just wanted to tell you that tomorrow we will do  testing upload for firefox using my patches so I should be able to provide you with a full set of .po files for xulrunner and firefox
[21:07] <asac> carlos: great
[21:07] <asac> all locales?
[21:08] <Ubulette> damn, I wondered why my pc was so slow today, the kernel only shows 1 proc
[21:08] <armin76> lol
[21:09] <carlos> asac: yeah, the idea is to test everything and detect any remaining issues before we rollout the code to production
[21:10] <asac> carlos: when will that be?
[21:11] <carlos> the move to production?
[21:11] <asac> yep
[21:11] <asac> 20 mar or something like that?
[21:11] <carlos> asac: well, I'm pushing to get it done later this week
[21:11] <carlos> kiko asked me this kind of test before we do a cherry pick
[21:12] <carlos> so we don't need a second cherry pick if something changed
[21:12] <asac> hopefully
[21:14] <carlos> well, s/something changed/something is broken/
[21:14] <carlos> :P
[21:22] <asac> Ubulette: are the xul builds you did wiped from PPA?
[21:22] <asac> or are they still accessible in pool?
[21:24] <armin76> plop
[21:24] <asac> hmm ... apparently not
[21:24] <armin76> not plop accessible? :P
[21:40] <armin76> asac: you share the same .mozilla dir for ff2 and ff3?
[21:42] <asac> i don't share ... if the user uses ff2 he will use the same dir yes
[21:42] <asac> but ff2 is not supported anymore
[21:42] <asac> its far from encouraged :)
[21:44] <armin76> okay, thanks
[21:47] <armin76> asac: you know you're getting bad deps on xul-1.9 on hppa and sparc? :P
[21:49] <asac> bad deps?
[21:49] <armin76> unmet deps
[21:49] <armin76> or whatever you call it :P
[21:50] <asac> yeah. i would try to fix that if xul would be the most pressing issue of those archs
[21:50] <asac> but i guess there is a bunch more ;)
[21:50] <asac> do you have a fix?
[21:51] <armin76> a fix me? :P
[21:51] <armin76> i don't even know why a gnome dep is needed :P
[21:51] <armin76> yuck
[21:51] <asac> yeah ... was worth a try
[22:00] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5633/
[22:02] <cwong1> asac: ping
[22:04] <cwong1> asac: firefox beta 4 is out, do you have time to update midbrowser to ff beta4?
[22:15] <armin76> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642/
[22:19] <Ubulette> armin76, are you bored ?
[22:31] <Ubulette> b4 is no longer able to finish loading some pages
[22:41] <asac> cwong1: we currently have a bad regression in beta 4
[22:41] <asac> i don't think i have time to do that until i have fixed that
[22:42] <asac> so lets cross our finger
[22:42] <asac> s
[22:42] <cwong1> asac:  ok thanks. Do you think it will be fixed by early next week?
[22:43] <asac> cannot tell. i hope to have it fixed by tomorrow
[22:44] <asac> just need to find the bogus commit among a thousand commits or so :)
[22:44] <cwong1> ok  thanks.
[22:45] <asac> ok regression window so far: 2008.02.17.23.00.00 == works
[22:45] <asac> 2008.02.21.23.00.00 == broken
[22:54] <Ubulette> it's tight, so it should be easy to track it down
[22:58] <asac> yes ... just need to confirm that i didn't mess something up here
[22:58] <asac> lost a bunch of time because of build tree breakage
[22:58] <asac> e.g. testing against bogus xul
[22:59] <asac> we need an archive with daily builds :) ... at least as  long as upstream doesn't release xulrunner
[23:01] <Ubulette> they are working on it
[23:02] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 415180
[23:02] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 415180 in Build & Release "Create XULRunner builds at major milestones of Firefox" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415180
[23:02] <Ubulette> well, sort of
[23:02] <asac> bzg 390813
[23:02] <asac> bug 390813
[23:02] <asac> hmmm private
[23:02] <asac> mozilla bug 390813
[23:05] <asac> mozilla bug 331530
[23:05] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 331530 in Style System (CSS) "background painting and scrollbar code should use nsHTMLDocument::GetBody directly" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331530
[23:05] <Ubulette> I could archive my daily builds.. I just need more disk space
[23:06] <asac> hmm
[23:06] <asac> maybe i can copy them somewhere?
[23:06] <asac> how about uploading them to launchpad bugs?
[23:06] <asac> :)
[23:06] <asac> using librarian for storage ;)
[23:06] <asac> i have the feeling that the above bug is related
[23:06] <Ubulette> isn't it a kind of abuse ?
[23:06] <asac> hehe
[23:07] <asac> abuse is not the right word: workaround
[23:07] <asac> it was a joke
[23:07] <asac> ill think about it
[23:08] <Ubulette> but I daily build only i386
[23:08] <Ubulette> unless I start daily building in ppa
[23:08] <asac> yeah
[23:08] <asac> better than nothing i'd say
[23:08] <asac> but we need a solution
[23:09] <asac> i will dig around
[23:09] <Ubulette> a solution with dbgsym would be nice
[23:10] <Ubulette> i have them: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/minirepos/firefox-minefield/pool/xulrunner-1.9/
[23:12] <Ubulette> I need to drop that +bbot tag and move it to the build iteration instead
[23:14] <asac> hi phoenix24
[23:14] <asac> apache license is ok
[23:15] <asac> (before i forget)
[23:15] <phoenix24> Hi asac!
[23:15] <asac> ola
[23:15] <asac> howdy?
[23:15] <asac> Ubulette: yes
[23:15] <phoenix24> I'm good!
[23:15] <asac> Ubulette: do we really need a full archive?
[23:16] <phoenix24> asac: Theres another confusion.. when extracting the latest CVS snapshot.
[23:16] <Ubulette> asac, full archive of what ?
[23:17] <asac> apt archive i mean ... instead of just a single directory
[23:17] <asac> (though it shouldn't be much different)
[23:18] <Ubulette> synaptic is not very good with multiple versions of multi-debs packages
[23:19] <asac> thats what i mean
[23:19] <Ubulette> apt-get could be scripted a bit to achieve a fast regression search
[23:19] <asac> i don't mind about it being an archive
[23:19] <asac> i just want a directory with all those builds in :)
[23:19] <asac> maybe even a tarball per build that contains all the debs
[23:19] <asac> (so its easier to download and find)
[23:19] <Ubulette> the archive part is not very difficult
[23:22] <Ubulette> xul is about 100MB per day with dbgsym
[23:23] <asac> with sources?
[23:23] <Ubulette> yes
[23:24] <asac> thats 10 GB for 100 days :)
[23:24] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5643/
[23:25] <asac> whats up with sm?
[23:25] <Ubulette> mostly broken
[23:25] <asac> hehe ... no iam talking about the size ;)
[23:25] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644/
[23:26] <asac> k
[23:28] <asac> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=explicit&mindate=2008-02-20&maxdate=2008-02-17&cvsroot=/cvsroot
[23:28] <asac> any other guess than the commit i named :)
[23:29] <asac> Bug 417699
[23:29] <asac> mozilla Bug 417699
[23:29] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 417699 in MailNews: Backend "Crash when start SeaMonkey MailNews and Thunderbird [@ nsXULTreeBuilder::SetTree ]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417699
[23:31] <asac> but maybe its mozilla bug 414747
[23:31] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 414747 in Extension/Theme Manager "Firefox crashes during Addons -> Find Update [@nsQueryInterface::operator()]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414747
[23:31] <asac> which was backed out right before b3
[23:33] <asac> but the weakref is just on the listener
[23:34] <asac> Bug 414894
[23:34] <asac> mozilla Bug 414894
[23:34] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 414894 in DOM "Remove content arena" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414894
[23:35] <asac> scratch that
[23:37] <Ubulette> can't you shorten a bit more ?
[23:38] <asac> yeah :)
[23:38] <asac> after doing more rebuilds
[23:38] <asac> let me go to other room and see how far the build got
[23:51] <asac> scim is now back on me :/
[23:51] <Ubulette> don't know, i'm using it for jp anyway
[23:52] <asac> yeah
[23:52] <Ubulette> but i've configured it to never be on my way when i don't need it
[23:52] <asac> but i breaks my emacs usage
[23:52] <asac> i use ctrl+space to set a mark
[23:53] <Ubulette> change the binding
[23:53] <asac> ill remove scim for now and bug our scim guy :)
[23:54] <asac> there should be a setting to not enable it at all
[23:56] <asac> ok ... after restarting gnome session its gone :-P
[23:57] <Ubulette> for some reason, I now have tamil installed while i only had fr/jp/cn before
[23:58] <asac> thats all "chinese" for me :)
[23:59] <Ubulette> வயஅடை
[23:59] <asac> hehe
[23:59] <Ubulette> 日本語