[00:00] <tyce> other then it just not being safe, is there any other reason I just shouldn't set it up to use root?
[00:48] <Viaken> So...err...the frontend doesn't come up now, and mythtv-setup talks about wanting to upgrade our schema, then seems to crash... >.>
[00:58] <Viaken> Ah..I think it's in the process of updating.
[01:02] <Viaken> Ah...upgrade failed.
[01:02] <Viaken> Hooray logs...
[01:07] <Viaken> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5603/
[01:16] <tyce> any ideas why mythfilldatabases says it runs and grabs data, but then when I look in the program guide they are all unknown?
[01:44] <IceWewe> if anyone can help me with nuvexport, I'd be very grateful... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4498478#post4498478
[01:58] <KillerKiwi2005> hello, is upgrading from gutsy to hardy mythbuntu supported? or should I do a reinstall?
[02:16] <tgm4883> KillerKiwi2005, depends, we would like you to do it, so we can see how well it goes
[02:17] <KillerKiwi2005> lol :)
[02:18]  * tgm4883 isn't kidding
[02:20] <Viaken> He's really not. They need guinea pigs.
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> sell it to me what new features will i get vs pain from wife for missing her recordings
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> flv in mythweb... does that work out of box?
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> or does it require transcodeing?
[02:21] <tgm4883> while we do need people to test it out, and we will try to help you fix any problems, you must realize that Mythbuntu Hardy comes with an Oklahome Warranty
[02:22] <KillerKiwi2005> ... well i do have 3 hds in it and im only using 2....
[02:22] <KillerKiwi2005> actully 3 hds
[02:22] <KillerKiwi2005> 4
[02:22] <KillerKiwi2005> did gnome-lirc-properties make it in?
[02:22] <Viaken> Oklahoma Warranty?
[02:23] <tgm4883> Viaken, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
[02:23] <Viaken> lol nice
[02:23] <tgm4883> bah
[02:24] <KillerKiwi2005> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/192368
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest77> I have been running -fixes weekly builds and tonight with a "apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade" I was at 0.21....  Now I noticed the mythbackend fails at the schema upgrade to 1171.  Anyone else seeing this?  Error is "Query was: INSERT storagegroup (groupname, hostname, dirname)     SELECT 'Default', hostname, data     FROM settings     WHERE value = 'RecordFilePrefix';"  "Error was: Driver error was [2/1062]:"
[02:59] <a1fa> hi
[03:03] <a1fa> camelreef
[03:03] <tgm4883> !ask | alfa
[03:04] <ubotu> alfa: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:09] <tritium> Well, it seems the latest upgrade broke mythfrontend.
[03:11] <Viaken> Hardy or Gutsy?
[03:11] <degreseven> hello, i just installed the update to 0.21 but the update for mythvideo is grayed out & i can't install it. anyone know what the deal is with that?
[03:11] <tritium> Viaken: gutsy
[03:11] <Viaken> What went wrong with you?
[03:12] <tritium> Viaken: mythfrontend won't start.  Trying to run from the command line errors out with this message:
[03:12] <tritium> 2008-03-11 21:08:53.203 This version of MythTV requires an updated database schema. Please run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to update your database.
[03:12] <rhpot1991> degreseven: dpkg -l |grep myth
[03:12] <hads> tritium: Do that then :)
[03:12] <rhpot1991> see if mythvideo version matches the rest
[03:13] <tritium> hads: yes, I will, but that still doesn't address the root problem.  An apt-get upgrade shouldn't require additional intervention afterward.
[03:13] <Viaken> tritium: I ran into the same/similar issue. Check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[03:13] <tritium> Viaken: thanks, I will.
[03:13] <Viaken> I had to go in and remove the audioprops column from the programs table in the mythconverg database.
[03:13] <hads> tritium: Running one of the installed programs isn't really intervention. It's also a mythtv requirement. now.
[03:14] <tritium> hads: I've already completed mythtv-setup before.  A simple upgrade should not require it again.
[03:14] <tritium> It *is* intervention.
[03:14] <degreseven> rhpot1991: what am i looking for here? its pretty much all 0.21, mythvideo is missing
[03:14] <hads> It's a mythtv requirement.
[03:15] <tritium> As I said, I completed that requirement long ago, when I first installed.
[03:15] <degreseven> rhpot1991: er, sorry.. mythvideo is not missing, it's still at 0.20.2
[03:15] <Viaken> tritium: Did you reboot after the upgrade?
[03:15] <hads> tritium: It's a requirement to upgrade the DB schema. A mythtv requirement...
[03:15] <tritium> running mythtv-setup every time you want to run the front end, or every time a package is upgraded, is not a documented myhtv requirement
[03:15] <hads> tritium: Read the error message.
[03:16] <rhpot1991> degreseven: and what are the rest 0.21?
[03:16] <tritium> hads: then perhaps there should have been a note during the upgrade to re-run mythtv-setup, but there was no such note
[03:16] <tritium> Viaken: no, not yet
[03:16] <Viaken> restart mythbackend, see if that works
[03:16] <hads> ... or mythbackend.
[03:17] <hads> Which is required for the fronent anyway.
[03:17] <degreseven> rhpot1991: right
[03:17] <rhpot1991> sudo apt-get install mythvideo should fix that
[03:17] <tritium> hads: what's your point?  It still should not be required for a user to run after upgrading packages.
[03:17] <rhpot1991> try that and see if it works
[03:17] <rhpot1991> if not you might need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the required packages
[03:17] <hads> tritium: If you say so.
[03:18] <tritium> hads: it is poor package management
[03:18] <hads> tritium: Sure.
[03:18] <tritium> hads: what's with the attitude?
[03:18] <degreseven> rhpot1991: hm it seemed to work, hah. Any idea why only that package would be blocked in the update manager?
[03:19] <rhpot1991> degreseven: it requires a new package with it I think
[03:19] <rhpot1991> as a dependency
[03:19] <degreseven> rhpot1991: oh ok. well thanks for the help
[03:19] <rhpot1991> np
[03:21] <tritium> Hmm, 9 new packages to upgrade, and several more if I dist-upgrade, but mythdvd is to be removed...
[03:21] <tritium> Viaken: did you dist-upgrade, and allow removal of mythdvd
[03:21] <tritium> ?
[03:23] <Viaken> I did a full-upgrade, and don't recall what got removed.
[03:23] <Viaken> Using aptitude, mind you
[03:23] <tritium> I use aptitude as well.
[03:23] <tritium> I'm just not too excited about mythdvd being removed.
[03:23] <tritium> Maybe that's a mythtv requirement ;)
[03:23] <Viaken> This system isn't beefy enough to play DVDs realtime, so I don't care. lol
[03:23] <tgm4883> tritium, mythdvd is now part of mythvideo
[03:24] <Viaken> I'll be upgrading soon enough.
[03:24] <tritium> tgm4883: ah, cool.  Thanks.
[03:24] <tgm4883> degreseven, whats missing?
[03:25] <rhpot1991> degreseven is good, he just needed to force the mythvideo install
[03:25] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, was mythdvd installed?
[03:26] <rhpot1991> didn't ask
[03:26] <tgm4883> ah
[03:26] <rhpot1991> I know I had to do that
[03:26] <rhpot1991> I recall it has a new dependency, or was it that it wanted to remove mythdvd?
[03:26] <tgm4883> IIRC, mythdvd is depreciated
[03:26] <rhpot1991> ya it is
[03:27] <rhpot1991> its in mythvideo like you said
[03:27] <tgm4883> mythvideo is the new mythdvd
[03:27] <tgm4883> know what else is depreciated?
[03:27] <rhpot1991> whats that?
[03:27] <tgm4883> foxxbuntu is depreciated
[03:27] <rhpot1991> not as much as Hillary is
[03:27] <MythbuntuGuest77> so i did the mythtv-setup and all of the logs are pointing to "Database Schema upgrade FAILED, unlocking." at 1171.  Note: This is on 7.10, does anyone have this issue?
[03:27]  * rhpot1991 moves the political speak here instead
[03:28] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest77: I'll try soon.  I'm having problems that sound similar, but haven't run mythtv-setup yet.
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest77> It results in the frontend/backend not starting.... Nice mythbuntu logo on a black backdrop.....
[03:29] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest77: I'm just dist-upgrading first.
[03:30] <hads> MythbuntuGuest77: Mythtv ticket #4927
[03:31] <tritium> MythbuntuGuest77: mythfrontend works for me now.  Sorry...
[03:32] <tritium> hads: as I suspected, re-running mythtv-setup was not necessary.
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest77> Ticket 4927 looks like the one.....
[03:32] <hads> tritium: Haha, so, like I said earlier...
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest77> So this would be a recompile to apply the patch...  Is that right..
[03:33] <tritium> hads: no, it's not like you said earlier.
[03:33] <hads> MythbuntuGuest77: Shouldn't be nessecarry, the issue is in the SQL so you should be able to do it manually.
[03:33] <tritium> hads: it's more like I said earlier.  Proper package management shouldn't require the user to run it.
[03:33] <hads> tritium: Whatever.
[03:34] <tritium> You'd prefer the user to have to do it?
[03:34] <rhpot1991> its easier than building from source, is it not?
[03:35] <tritium> rhpot1991: are you asking me?
[03:36] <hads> MythbuntuGuest77: What you would need to do is look at what the schema upgrade is doing in libs/libmythtv/dbcheck.cpp and do it manually according to the patch on that ticket.
[03:37] <grepdashv> hey all
[03:38] <grepdashv> could use some help with a brand new mythbuntu setup
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask | grepdashv
[03:40] <grepdashv> !ask
[03:40] <rhpot1991> haha
[03:40] <rhpot1991> grepdashv: ask your question and someone will answer if they know it
[03:40] <grepdashv> ok thx...thought there might be some kind of question bot >_>
[03:40] <rhpot1991> tritium: ya, just saying junk breaks on upgrades it will get fixed
[03:40] <tritium> grepdashv: there is, but they're having problems today
[03:41] <rhpot1991> its better than building from source after all
[03:41] <tritium> rhpot1991: that's true
[03:41] <grepdashv> i've got a pvr-150, and it seems to be detected ok, but when i try to set it up as an input and scan for channels, i get an error that says it can't be opened
[03:45] <grepdashv> don't all answer at once >_>
[03:49] <grepdashv> anyone?
[03:52] <ubotu> grepdashv: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:53] <grepdashv> wow is that the bot just now catching up?
[03:54] <tritium> yes, grepdashv
[03:54] <grepdashv> tritium: any idea on my pvr150 issue?
[03:54] <tritium> grepdashv: No, I'm sorry.  I don't have one, and I've not encountered that error.
[03:55] <grepdashv> i was surprised that i didn't see anything about the error in the faq, since the card comes pretty highly recommended
[03:55] <grepdashv> but i may have missed it
[03:56] <rhpot1991> grepdashv: try to sudo modprobe ivtv and then try it again
[03:56] <grepdashv> ivtv is loaded already afaik
[03:56] <tgm4883> dmesg | grep ivtv
[03:57] <grepdashv> [   53.285504] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150
[04:00] <grepdashv> tgm4883: any thoughts?
[04:01] <tgm4883> thats the only thing that shows up?
[04:01] <grepdashv> no, no
[04:01] <grepdashv> that was just what seemed most relevant
[04:01] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[04:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:01] <tgm4883> put the whole thing there
[04:01] <grepdashv> ok
[04:03] <grepdashv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59332/
[04:04] <tgm4883> grepdashv, pastebin this
[04:04] <tgm4883> ls -l /dev/vid*
[04:04] <tgm4883> also, is this a gutsy or hardy install?
[04:05] <grepdashv> 7.10, so gutsy?
[04:05] <tgm4883> yep
[04:05] <tgm4883> mythbuntu install?
[04:05] <grepdashv> yep
[04:05] <grepdashv> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81,  0 2008-03-11 11:40 /dev/video0
[04:05] <grepdashv> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 24 2008-03-11 11:40 /dev/video24
[04:06] <grepdashv> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 32 2008-03-11 11:40 /dev/video32
[04:06] <grepdashv> just those 3
[04:07] <tgm4883> and in mythtv-setup you set it up as /dev/video0 and as a hauppauge PVR card?
[04:08] <grepdashv> yup
[04:08] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:08] <grepdashv> tried it as each of v4l and mpeg
[04:08] <grepdashv> but when i got to the input section, neither one allowed me to scan for channels...failed to open card
[04:20] <grepdashv> so...?
[05:18] <grepdashv> fyi - it was because i had no scheduler set up; i have it using "no grabber" now
[06:36] <hugolp> can I update the server to .21 without reseting or touching the database?
[06:36] <hugolp> or do the packages take care of that?
[06:39] <foxbuntu___> hugolp, you will be required to update everything to .21
[06:39] <foxbuntu___> Frontend Included
[06:39] <foxbuntu___> .21 does not work with previous versions
[06:40] <tgm4883_laptop> you don't work with previous versions
[06:43] <hugolp> foxbuntu___:  updating the frontend is fine, but what about the database?
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> the db schema will need to be updated
[06:44] <foxbuntu___> hugolp, everything has to be upgraded
[06:45] <hugolp> tgm4883_laptop:  means I have to delete the one that is now, and let the packages create an empty new one and configure it or I dont need to delete it and it will be upgraded automagically?
[06:45] <foxbuntu___> tgm4883_laptop, I know I don't work with previous versions
[06:45] <foxbuntu___> hugolp, it will be upgraded
[06:45] <hugolp> foxbuntu___:  cool
[06:45] <tgm4883_laptop> automagically
[06:45] <hugolp> going to upgrade now
[07:01] <camelreef> good morning
[07:01] <tgm4883> yes it is
[07:01] <tgm4883> but just barely
[07:02] <camelreef> at least in Scotland
[07:02] <tgm4883> it's 00:02 here
[07:02] <foxbuntu___> camelreef, its 2A here :)
[07:02] <camelreef> ouch
[07:02] <camelreef> 7 here
[07:02] <foxbuntu___> weather is prob better there too
[07:02] <foxbuntu___> camelreef, something we can do for you?
[07:02] <camelreef> 3C
[07:03] <camelreef> for the time being, nothing
[07:03] <camelreef> I'm a happy user
[07:03] <camelreef> except if you know how to fix the UPnP memory leak
[07:03] <camelreef> I have UPnP turned off as I don't need it in the mean time
[07:04] <camelreef> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/200761
[07:06] <foxbuntu___> camelreef, nope sorry, thats a work in progress as im told
[07:07] <camelreef> who's working on it ?
[07:07] <foxbuntu_laptop> not sure
[07:07] <foxbuntu_laptop> upstream
[07:08] <camelreef> k
[07:09] <foxbuntu_laptop> are you using MythTV 0.21?
[07:13] <camelreef> yup
[07:13] <camelreef> I'm the one who posted the valgrind log
[07:14] <camelreef> I was using the PPA backport, now I have the official backport
[07:35] <foxbuntu_laptop> camelreef, you need to upgrade to hardy sometime so you can stay up-to-date with the changes
[07:36] <foxbuntu_laptop> the backport is intial release only for 0.21, gutsy wont get the 0.21-fixes branch
[07:36] <camelreef> foxbuntu_laptop, I'm trying to stick to something relatively stable
[07:36] <foxbuntu_laptop> camelreef, I understand...just letting you know
[07:37] <camelreef> but the alpha cycle has normally ended, I may switch once beta has started
[07:37] <camelreef> I know the process
[07:37] <camelreef> I started my mythtv system on gutsy alpha 2 or 3
[07:38] <camelreef> that was alright, I was building it, and the tuner driver also had issues
[07:38] <camelreef> but now it is seriously in prod
[07:39] <camelreef> I may start switching a few non-critical machines to Hardy in the next few days, though
[08:09] <camelreef> hugolp doesn't know what he wants
[08:10] <camelreef> work time
[09:08] <Rimers> hi all
[09:09] <Rimers> is there a way of monitoring what programs is accessing swap / harddisk? my Mythbuntu is accessing one of my drives all the time and i cant find out what program is doing it.
[09:25] <camelreef> and another good morning from Scotland
[09:26] <laga> good morning from germany :)
[09:27] <camelreef> laga, any news on that leak? Any ticket on that upstream? i failed to find one
[09:28] <laga> i'm going to make one now, didn't have time last night
[09:28] <laga> thanks for the log, btw
[09:29] <camelreef> OK
[09:29] <camelreef> I can make a new one with the ubuntu2 backport that has arrived in the mean time
[09:30]  * camelreef should be getting his 1TB WD GP disk today :o)
[09:31] <laga> camelreef:  dont think the ubuntu2 build is gonna fix it.. doyou ystillhave the version number of that older build youused yesterday?
[09:31]  * laga should be getting his 500GB WD GP disk tomorrow :)
[09:32] <camelreef> I was using the 0.21 released code backported on the mythbuntu-experimental PPA
[09:32] <camelreef> ubuntu1
[09:34] <camelreef> there will be some liceCD, dd and gparted action tonight
[09:35] <laga> good luck :)
[09:35] <laga> mine will go in my main desktop (which is alsomy myth frontend)
[09:35] <laga> my current samsung hdd is making lots of vibrations.. and they're most audible on the couch
[09:36] <camelreef> I have currently a pair of 200G, noisy as hell
[09:36] <camelreef> I'm planning on making that BE/FE less noticeable
[09:36] <camelreef> hdd is the first step
[09:36] <camelreef> 2 case fans will be replaced too
[09:37] <camelreef> then the CPU heatsink/fan, for a model that is PWM compliant
[09:37] <camelreef> and finally the power supply
[09:37] <laga> i've already got noise dampening etc in this case
[09:38] <laga> also some hdd noise blockers, but i don't think they're very good
[09:38] <laga> and rubber nipppels for the fans :)
[09:41] <laga> camelreef: though it'd be cool if you could make sure the problem still exists with -ubuntu2
[09:41] <laga> no need to valgrind, though
[09:41] <camelreef> K
[09:41] <camelreef> hold on
[09:41] <camelreef> ah, one kid in front of the TV
[09:42] <camelreef> bah, it's just a backend restart
[09:43] <camelreef> done
[09:43] <laga> hehe
[09:43] <camelreef> 20M
[09:43] <laga> damn kids, get off my tv.. ;)
[09:43] <camelreef> not that I mind, I'm at work
[09:44] <camelreef> and the 2-year old knows how to use MythTV
[09:44] <laga> heh
[09:44] <camelreef> from the keyboard
[09:44] <laga> my 2yr old nephew never gets too watch tv, his mother is very strict about that
[09:44] <camelreef> the remote is a little bit too abstract for him
[09:47] <laga> camelreef: does it also consume 100% CPU?
[09:57] <camelreef> nope
[09:57] <laga> ok, that happens for hitme..
[09:57] <laga> i made a upstream bug report
[09:59] <camelreef> yesterday it took alot of CPU
[09:59] <camelreef> but that may have been valgrind
[09:59] <camelreef> and I am @ 62M atm, nothing to call home about
[10:00] <camelreef> and it's not rising dramatically
[10:00] <laga> yeah
[10:00] <laga> ok, i was just wondering ;)
[10:00] <camelreef> weird build by the PPA ?
[10:00] <camelreef> was I paying for my eagerness?
[10:00] <laga> no, hitme666 is seeing it too, he's got it from hardy
[10:01] <camelreef> ah
[10:01] <camelreef> was he on ubuntu1 or ubuntu2 ?
[10:02] <laga> ubuntu2 i think
[10:02] <camelreef> hmm
[10:02] <camelreef> crap, if thisd thing is not consistent, even on the same machine....
[10:03] <laga> maybe because you got the update?
[10:03] <laga> we'll let the devs look at it
[10:04] <camelreef> OK
[10:04] <camelreef> I'm starting djmount on the network, see if using a upnp client changes things
[10:05] <directhex|work> (note: djmount doesn't work on amd64)
[10:06] <laga> directhex|work: heh
[10:06] <camelreef> I'm using it from a 32 bit machine on the network
[10:06] <laga> java doesn't work well onamd64 either :/
[10:06] <laga> so projectx is borked.
[10:06] <laga> which sccks because mytharchive finally worked for me with that
[10:07] <camelreef> laga, fix your reception
[10:07] <camelreef> commercial removal failed because of bad mpeg2, fixing the cabling and installing a masthead amp fixed it
[10:07] <laga> my reception is fine (DVB-C). mythtranscode doesn't work well with multiple audio streams.. and i think projectx is faster anyways
[10:07] <camelreef> ah
[10:08] <laga> and it really sucks if you get french audio because it decided to throw the german audio stream away (i only have this situation for one channel which i barely watch, but hey)
[10:08] <camelreef> using a upnp client made the be go up to 120M, and it went back to 65M
[10:09] <camelreef> behaving normally
[10:09] <laga> odd
[10:09] <camelreef> indeed
[10:09] <laga> we'll let the devs look at it :)
[10:15] <camelreef> I gzipped the log and attached it to the MythTV ticket
[10:15] <laga> camelreef: thanks
[10:27] <sebrock> laga, I upgraded to Gutsy instead
[10:28] <sebrock> they have this really handy new tool "do-release-upgrade" for servers
[10:28] <sebrock> went pretty smooth except it stalled on restarting nfs-kernel-server
[10:28] <laga> great :)
[10:29] <sebrock> had to 'dpkg --configure -a' after a reboot to make it finish
[10:29]  * laga is afraid that his ACPI wakeup setup will break when upgrading. :/
[10:29] <sebrock> what's that?
[10:29] <laga> sebrock: my backend shuts down when it's idle and will wake up for the next recording
[10:30] <sebrock> oh I dont use that
[10:30] <sebrock> my backend is on my 24/7 server
[10:30] <laga> (although that hasn't worked so well lately, maybe i need to poke 0.21..)
[10:30] <sebrock> is that a ug in gutsy or backend?
[10:30] <laga> sebrock: i can't really justify that for just mythtv :) i used to have a 24/7 server, too
[10:31] <sebrock> sure, but my server also does a helluva lot of other stuff, ftp, cups, apache...
[10:31] <sebrock> to name some
[10:31] <laga> sebrock: i still have feisty. i dont think it's a real bug at all.. there are certain locking mechanism where it determines whether it's safe to shutdown or not. maybe i broke one of these
[10:31] <Daviey> gah, servers should be 24/7
[10:31] <laga> sebrock: yeah, mine only does mythtv. (and my local repo)
[10:31] <sebrock> right, btw dpkg --configure -a
[10:31] <laga> Daviey: no worries, my dedicated server runs 24/7 :)
[10:32] <Daviey> great
[10:32] <sebrock> what is that, I was told to do it when updating the repo
[10:32] <laga> sebrock: it'll reconfigure all packages
[10:32] <sebrock> and then it continued to configure stuff
[10:33] <sebrock> because the upgrade stalled somewhere when configuring packages
[10:33] <sebrock> so I'm unsure if I now have a full Gutsy or somewhere between 7.04 and 7.10
[10:34] <laga> try to upgrade again?
[10:34] <laga> (i had to upgrade three times when going from gutsy to hardy.. but i also had some broken third-party packages)
[10:35] <sebrock> well doing the same command tells me there is no new upgrade
[10:35] <sebrock> and apt-get upgrade does neither
[10:37] <sebrock> so all is gold?
[10:40] <laga> if you've got "gutsy" all over your sources.list and if sudo aptitude dist-upgrade shows there are no new packages
[10:40] <laga> you should be golden
[10:42] <sebrock> then I am
[10:42] <sebrock> some minor issues with apache2 tho
[10:45] <sebrock> [Wed Mar 12 11:43:12 2008] [error] [client 91.126.96.52] Digest: user `sebastian' in realm `MythTV' not found: /
[10:45] <sebrock> thats what I got when trying to access Mythweb
[10:45] <laga> go to mcc and set your password again?
[10:45] <sebrock> mcc?
[10:45] <sebrock> my pasword is still in httpd-passwords
[10:46] <laga> mythbuntu-control-centre
[10:46] <laga> mcc can do it now
[10:46] <sebrock> this is not mythbuntu...
[10:46] <sebrock> its just an ordinary gutsy install with myth-backend
[10:46] <laga> then use sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[10:46] <laga> which does the same
[10:46] <laga> sebrock: you can just install mythbuntu-control-centre on gutsy if you ever feel the need, btw
[10:47] <sebrock> so it works on 'just' the backend alswell?
[10:47] <laga> yes
[10:47] <sebrock> and a backend thats not from the mythbuntu release
[10:47] <sebrock> ok
[10:47] <laga> mythbuntu is just ubuntu with mythbuntu-control-centre
[10:48] <laga> you probably want to clean out old config files from your feisty mythweb install, though
[10:49] <sebrock> hm....
[10:49] <sebrock> resetting the password didnt help
[10:49] <laga> httpd-passwords <- what file is that?
[10:49] <sebrock> I wonder what apache thinks a realm is
[10:49] <sebrock> thats my file with encrypted passwords
[10:50] <sebrock> I updated it with htpasswd but apache still says I'm not in the MythTV realm
[10:50] <laga> sebrock: mythweb now uses a different kind of authentication IIRC. you need to clear your old config file
[10:51] <laga> sebrock: it's using digest auth now which uses realms.. i think a realm is a third component which is factored in into the password encryption or something
[10:51] <sebrock> oh
[10:52] <sebrock> so which file do I have to delete?
[11:00] <sebrock> I tried to change it with mythbuntu-control-center but it still says the same
[11:04] <laga> i dunno.
[11:04] <laga> i can't know because it was you who made your setup :)
[11:05] <sebrock> Im guessing this is something new... my other password enabled sites works fine
[11:05] <laga> yes, it's using a different setup
[11:05] <laga> htdigest instead of the old plain auth method
[11:12] <sebrock> yeah I noticed
[11:13] <sebrock> works now
[11:13] <laga> xcool
[11:13] <laga> -x
[11:19] <camelreef> wow
[11:20] <camelreef> who came up with a default idle time of 60mn for the EIT crawl?
[11:20] <camelreef> my EPG is emptying itself!
[11:40] <sebrock> there is a gutsy backport now right?
[11:40] <camelreef> yup
[11:41] <camelreef> turn on the backports in synaptics or sources.list
[14:10] <KipIngram> Anyone out there using the SA4250HDC stb?
[14:36] <a1fa_> I am thorn apart. Wait for 8.04 or 7.10?
[14:36] <a1fa_> WWJD?
[14:36] <laga> 8.04 could use some testing, which also means it can break more easily :)
[14:36] <a1fa_> its due in april?
[14:37] <laga> yes
[14:37] <a1fa_> they wont release POS, I hope
[14:40] <a1fa_> i like the philosophy behind mythbuntu
[14:41] <laga> which is..?
[14:41] <a1fa_> the control panel
[14:44] <a1fa_> its a very well packaged product
[14:48] <MythbuntuGuest09> I am trying to use the MythWeb flash player (and .asx sreams) in 0.21 but I keep getting the error ".mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host."  I found the error is being generated by handler.pl.  Has anyone else seen this?
[14:54] <directhex|work> MythbuntuGuest09, are you using a framegrabber tv card?
[14:55] <MythbuntuGuest09> directhex|work - No... PVR150 and PVR500 cards....
[14:58] <sebrock_> how much is there to do on the alpha4 release?
[14:58] <sebrock_> or is the most part depending on the 8.04?
[14:58] <sebrock_> seems quite rough now that I tested it
[14:59] <laga> sebrock_: getting mythtv fixes & patches in (as expected after a new release)... the MCC diskless sections needs some work ;), some stuff finnaly has to be fixed like making shutdown work out of the box..
[14:59] <laga> we're mostly there i'd say, tho
[15:21] <a1fa_> ;P
[15:21] <a1fa_> laga awesome
[15:21] <a1fa_> i will wait for 8.04 stable
[15:22] <a1fa_> hopefully mythbuntu lets me import my old database without much manual work
[15:23] <laga>  if you just upgrade from 7.10, you don't even have to import anything
[15:24] <a1fa_> nah
[15:24] <a1fa_> debian testing
[15:24] <a1fa_> i am whiping out the hard-drive
[15:32] <sebrock_> laga, I just tried the LiveCD and I must say there was a bunch of problems. One was my sound was broken :P anyway, I noticed that the imon-pad lirc conf is wrong... SOudgraph updated their harware so the hex signals are not the same any more
[15:32] <sebrock_> however I have mapped it for you if you would like it
[15:33] <laga> sebrock_: it would be great if you could file a bug report
[15:33] <sebrock_> I think I already did it once
[15:33] <laga> your sounds was broken? there were problems with that, but i think they've been resolved for the live disk? file a bug report for that as well ;)
[15:33] <laga> sebrock_: ah
[15:33] <sebrock_> I'll check
[15:35] <sebrock_> should I file the lirc thing under mythbuntu or lirc?
[15:35] <laga> :)
[15:36] <sebrock_> A of the sound, I use passthrough to my digital receiver, Did not work at all this time
[15:37] <laga> that might actually be a known problem in 7.10
[15:37] <laga> um
[15:37] <laga> in mythtv 0.21
[15:38] <sebrock_> what
[15:38] <sebrock_> it works in mythbuntu 7.10 OTB
[15:38] <laga> the broken passthru
[15:38] <laga> ah
[15:38] <laga> odd then
[15:38] <laga> amybe you should check dmesg for unresolved symbols in the sound driver..
[15:39] <laga> ok, i gotta run. been sitting here for too long :)
[15:39] <sebrock_> I'll wait for a release first
[17:53] <suamme1> Hey, I'm having a problem with the latest 8.04 update. My cx88_alsa module doesn't work anymore. Would this be a bug, or something intended I didn't catch?
[18:08] <KipIngram> Anyone online use the SA4250HDC stb (firewire)?
[19:08] <hugolp> hi, Im trying to update to mythtv .21 and apt-get wont let me. do I have to uninstall myth-backend .20 previous to install .21?
[19:09] <hugolp> the only way to install is to force it with aptitude full-upgrade
[19:22] <Daviey> hugolp: hey - you will need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:22] <a1fa_> did u check topic?
[19:25] <a1fa_> no?
[19:25] <hugolp> alfa checking now
[19:26] <a1fa_> good boy
[19:29] <hugolp> pfff
[19:29] <a1fa_> piff?
[19:29] <a1fa_> why you fussing
[19:51] <hugolp> everything went fine, but the OSD flickers
[19:56] <hugolp> nobody else is having problem with the OSD flickering?
[21:27] <jamesd> upgrading to .21 broke playback of previously recorded.. some work some just give a blank screen....
[21:32] <MythbuntuGuest39> Is mythstream broken in 7.10 post 0.21 update?  It says it must be recompiled for 0.21 libs...
[21:32] <nettow0822>  has anyone installed the mythbuntu .21 upgrade through backports yet?
[21:34] <TRRiSS> Yes, I have, but having some troubles now because I use the legacy nvidia drivers, something to do with glXGetProcAddress
[21:36] <MythbuntuGuest39> nettow0822:  I did... For the most part it went smooth...  Mythstream is having dome issues and the mythweb has some issues if you have non standard storage locations....
[21:39] <jamesd> i'm having issues wtih nvidia closed source drivers and playback...  some recordings play fine others don't, get a blank screen
[21:47] <nettow0822> jamesd have you tried this site? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14
[21:48] <directhex> jamesd, blank or green?
[21:49] <jamesd> its a darkgrey maybe black
[21:55] <jamesd> nettow0822, which thread...
[21:56] <nettow0822> jamesd no thread...just was giving you a possible source
[22:04] <jamesd> perhaps its just me, but i think if upgrading to a new version of an application like mythtv breaks something, i should be looking at the application for the problem not the video driver.
[22:28] <myth-newb> all my video menus have stopped working after myth update? anyone
[22:32] <myth-newb> anyone
[22:33] <jamesd> no clue.. i upgraded... it works but some tv channels don't work... wrong settings looks like standard mode works.. but 1080i shows are broken
[22:34] <myth-newb> When i go to media library
[22:34] <myth-newb> nothing happens
[22:34] <myth-newb> it stays on the main screen