[00:04] hey guys. its me again :( [00:05] hey odd-rationale....still wanna help me ? [00:05] lol [00:07] actually if anyone can tell me why i get a black screen after booting into xubuntu ? [00:08] brand new install, i dont know whats goin on [00:16] no help huh ? [00:17] hi pc-illiterate [00:18] hi j1mc [00:18] do you have a question? [00:18] yep [00:18] i just joined the channel - what is your question? [00:18] i get a black screen on boot up. brand new install [00:19] no text at all? [00:19] nope [00:20] if you press ctrl-alt-f3, what happens? [00:20] after the progress bar screen...i get a black screen [00:20] did the install complete successfully? [00:20] never tried [00:20] i just got done taking an hour to install [00:21] as far as i know it fully installed. it wanted to reboot [00:21] ok [00:22] what does ctrl+alt+f3 do ? [00:23] it gets you to runlevel 3 (which is a terminal) vs. runlevel 7, which is the full graphical environment. [00:25] dude, i know nothing of linux. the install was my introduction here today [00:26] it's ok. i was just trying to explain that pressing those keys would get you to a terminal vs. all of the graphics and stuff. :) [00:26] i wanted to see if anything was even available from a terminal. [00:27] oh. ok [00:27] do you know what version of xubuntu you were trying to install? [00:28] 7.10 ? [00:28] yep. 7.10 [00:28] ok [00:29] what kind of computer do you have? and do you know what kind of graphics card you have? [00:29] anyone knows why my cpu has 95% activity? http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsm4.png => what are mount.fs and gam_server and why does Thunar need so much resources? [00:29] lol. hell yes i do. [00:29] i type slow gimmee a sec [00:31] 1ghz celeron , 256 ram , gforce4 mx440se 64m gfx card , [00:31] are you on that computer right now, or are you on a different computer? [00:31] iam on it [00:31] it is core 2 duo 1.83 [00:32] 1gig ram [00:32] etc [00:32] if i close thunar, everything is ok again [00:32] same one [00:32] 5% cpu activity - but if i open it up [00:32] its 100% again [00:32] Seeeb: sorry, i was writing to pc-illiterate [00:33] um, Seeeb ... i don't know if i can answer your question. :[ [00:33] ah :f [00:33] Seeeb: maybe try in #xfce? [00:33] ok thx [00:33] yw [00:33] pc-illiterate: you are dual-booting then? [00:34] yep [00:34] i'll tell ya what though...i get i think 3 options for booting into xubuntu [00:35] well, we would need to boot into xubuntu to get the information necessary to see what is going on. [00:35] and i need to go soon. [00:35] ok...what info you want ? [00:36] i need to see if you can get into a terminal at all (ctrl-alt-f3) and then what your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file says. [00:36] ok [00:37] brb in a few [00:37] ok [00:44] is it possible to set my xubuntu that way, that i have just to singleclick on files on the desktop to open them ? [00:44] i just found out how to do that in thunar [00:44] just = only ;) [00:46] Seeeb: i can't find a setting to do that other than in thunar. :( [01:01] crap...need some help if someone has patience [01:02] ask away [01:02] guys, i forgot the keys to press to shrink my window size (from the bottom) can someone reload my memory? [01:03] ok...black screen after progress bar after boot [01:03] what version? [01:03] can't get to the bottom of update screen to buttons [01:04] recovery mode... it runs thru and stops after root@ubuntumypc:"# [01:04] pc-illiterate, no...gutsy? hardy? feisty? [01:05] oh thats was for me lol. i look at keyboard to type...gutsy is 7.10 right ? [01:05] yes [01:05] ok then.. [01:05] fresh install? upgrade? [01:05] brand new install [01:06] how many display adapters? [01:06] on board and gforce4 mx440se [01:07] rico update screen? for display resolution? [01:07] using gforce...1024 x 768 32 [01:07] pc-illiterate, plug your monitor in the other jack (or a second monitor) [01:08] i tried that...black screen or colored snow [01:09] pc-illiterate, two monitors? [01:09] just 1 [01:10] switch the plug to the other display adapter and reboot [01:10] ok...i'll give it a shot [01:11] brb i guess [01:11] rico...still there? [01:13] vidd, ya, just got back [01:14] your issue...what screen do you need to update? [01:14] vidd, i'm on a box i gave to a friend, and can't get any better screen res than 640. no other options available on the screen mgr [01:15] i was trying to run update mgr but the window stretches below the bottom of my screen so i can't get to the 'install' button [01:16] i rember someone telling me a mouseless trick to shrink window, but i forgot which keys [01:16] have you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [01:16] * vidd dont recall the shortcut [01:17] guess the other option is cli update, would that be sudo apt-get update? [01:18] depends on what you are trying to do [01:18] i just want to install recommended updates [01:18] he has 56 pending cause hasn't kept up with them [01:19] then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [01:19] why dist-upgrade? [01:20] already running gutsy [01:20] update refreshes the apt-cache and dist-upgrade updates all programs [01:21] oh, k [01:22] how can i force close update manager? [01:22] terminal won't work i guess because update mgr open but it won't close [01:23] [alt]+[F4] [01:24] that wants to disconnect me from chatzilla, can't i just close the update mgr? [01:24] you need to have the update mgr in the front [01:24] oh, k, lemme try [01:26] nope, still won't close; do i have to reboot? [01:37] didnt work. get a black screen on the onboard.... [01:38] pc-illiterate: Hey, I was away. sorry. What is happening? [01:38] does [ctrl]+[alt]+[F1] bring up a terminal? [01:38] i cant get anything but a black screen after booting [01:39] i was told f3 not f1 [01:39] pc-illiterate: What are you using? the LiveCD of the alternative install CD? [01:39] *or [01:39] altern and installed fine as far as i know [01:40] pc-illiterate: But when you boot up, just black screen? [01:40] i tried booting into recovery mode but it just dies i think [01:40] yep...after progress bar , black screen [01:40] pc-illiterate: No text anywhere? [01:40] nope [01:41] pc-illiterate: Try what vidd said: ctrl+alt+f1 [01:41] i hit ctrl+alt+f3 and get a blinking cursor that accepts no input [01:41] what do i type into the terminal ? i told you im dumb on this l;ol [01:42] then switch to ctrl+alt+F8 [01:42] pc-illiterate: Do you get a terminal that asks for your login? [01:42] nope [01:42] Odd-rationale, his boot is stalling [01:42] vidd: I can tell. [01:42] that sounds right [01:43] vidd: But at which process? is that what we need to find out? [01:43] i tried clearing everything like prefetch files and stuff when i shut down windows too [01:43] pc-illiterate, after you ctl+alt+f3....ctl+alt+F8 [01:43] ok... [01:43] this should bring up where in the boot process your stuck [01:44] write that down and come back ? [01:44] wait [01:44] pc-illiterate: Could you post the last line? [01:44] im here [01:44] sure [01:44] you mean after f8 right ? [01:44] did you install windows first or linux first? [01:45] pc-illiterate: Yes. after [01:45] windows on master first, linux on slave after [01:46] ok...reboot and let us know what the last line is....and what specs of your machine (mem on slave and ram) [01:47] meme on slave ? [01:47] oops. mem on slave ? [01:48] hard drive space [01:48] specs...1ghz celeron 256 ram [01:48] total is 20 gig reformatted tonight [01:49] all on the slave drive? [01:50] yes. 20 gig slave 60 gig master grub on master... [01:50] ok.... let us know where it stalls [01:50] ok...be back [01:52] I'll be out for a while. be back later... [02:02] anybody know why xubuntu 7.10 wouldn't be able to join my wlan even though it appears to properly detect my Prism2.5 wifi adapter? [02:03] what does lspci (or lsusb) detect the wifi as? [02:03] wifi0 and wlan0 show up in ifconfig -a, network manager detects my network, but it can't seem to join [02:03] vidd: Prism2.5 [02:03] Intersil Corp Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset rev 01 [02:04] sorry if i shorten things, i can't exactly paste into irc from that laptop :) [02:04] i'm working from my desktop which is debian sid and uses madwifi [02:04] i thought ubuntu 7.10 "just worked" with my laptop, but i just installed xubuntu over it and its obviously not just working [02:05] did you use ndiswrapper or a native driver? [02:06] i've never used ndiswrapper before in my life so i guess native [02:06] grrrr [02:07] i get lots of noise in /var/log/syslog... anything in particular i should look for? [02:07] nadda. nothing. zip. zilch [02:08] schmichael, do you use nm-applet? [02:08] i'm seeing hfa384x_set_rid: CMDCODE_ACCESS_WRITE failed (res=127, rid=fc48, len=2) [02:08] yes [02:08] completely default install [02:08] from the alternate cd [02:08] "Association failed" shows up a lot [02:09] nm-applet isnt part of the default install...is it? [02:09] must be [02:09] nm-applet 0.6.5 [02:09] i just ran through the alternate cd installer [02:09] haven't changed a thing yet [02:10] nm-applet is showing my wlan [02:10] and my wlan's MAC is showing up in syslog [02:11] did you verify that the authentication was entered correctly? [02:12] don't tell anyone, but i have an open wlan ;) [02:12] i just use MAC filtering [02:12] ah! [02:13] turn off the mac filtering for a bit...see if that lets your system connect [02:13] good call [02:15] same thing [02:15] i'm running tomato firmware and its logs don't show a thing [02:15] although the only client related data it really logs is dhcp reqs [02:16] pc-illiterate, so you have rebooted an hit ctrl+alt+f3, got the blinking cursor, hit ctrl+alt+f8 and it shows nothing? [02:16] schmichael, is your system using static or dhcp? [02:17] nope. no cursor. that was in recovery [02:17] dhcp [02:17] im a lil busy at this second guys. i'll be right back [02:17] I want to dualboot xubuntu and Xp...I already have xubuntu installed and do not wish to remove it. Is there a way to dualboot it with XP? [02:17] w/out starting with XP first. [02:17] jusama14: i'm doing it [02:17] oh [02:18] i started with xp first [02:18] jusama14, yes.... [02:18] its a massive PITA [02:18] vidd, what steps would I take? [02:19] don't you have to boot from a linux cd and overwrite the mbr somehow? [02:19] i never bothered to read the instructions [02:20] vidd, u still here? [02:20] rico, yeah [02:21] just finished doing the update and dist-upgrrade, i was hoping that might fix my screen res problem, but screen manager still only offering 640 resolution... could it be that this monitor doesn't go any better than that? [02:22] i noticed there was a xorg update and gnome display mgr update in the process, but still no change [02:23] you want to get to a tty and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:23] tty, you mean terminal, right? [02:24] no...a tty .... [ctrl]+[alt]+[F1] [02:24] k, lemme try it [02:26] hello [02:26] hello gerro [02:26] hello everyone [02:27] vidd: hey vidd long time no see, you doing okay? [02:27] yeah...im back from hiatus with the community =] [02:28] welcome back! [02:28] get this... nm-applet is now showing 2 bars like its connected [02:28] never been there.. with the community? was it one of those ubuntu gatherings I've heard about? [02:28] it says the speed is 2Mb/s [02:28] but no IP [02:28] the driver is hostap_pci [02:29] schmichael: what card you working with? [02:29] schmichael, i dont use nm-applett .... i prefer to hard code my /etc/network/interfaces [02:30] gerro: Intersil Corp Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset rev 01 [02:30] i'm going to pycon in a couple of days, so it'd be nice to have easy roaming support [02:30] yeah that works best usually entering the info in yourself [02:30] but i'd settle for poking at /etc/network/interfaces [02:30] vidd, uhhhh, that one threw me [02:31] rico? [02:31] threw you? [02:31] schmichael: never used one those prism cards but here they're quite nice, probably needs custom drivers or something? [02:31] had copy/pasted the tty command you said but when went to tty of course i could not paste [02:32] gerro: i had plain old ubuntu (i think 7.10) installed before and don't remember doing anything special [02:32] schmichael: lshw doesn't say its disabled right? [02:32] can you give me the command again and tell me what to expect [02:33] lol [02:33] rico, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserv-xorg [02:33] gerro: DISABLED [02:33] schmichael: oh you using 8.04? I haven't had a chance to try it :( [02:33] 7.10 [02:33] control/alt/f1? [02:33] yes [02:34] dont hit enter until you verify it is right [02:34] schmichael: it does say disabled for that device under lshw? then there isn't a suitable driver found [02:34] oh [02:34] huh [02:34] verify the command is properly written you mean? [02:34] yes [02:35] what will happen, how will i get back out of the tty1? [02:35] it will kill your x session [02:35] rico: ctrl alt f7 to get out of it [02:35] rico: or ctrl alt backspace to start a new x session [02:35] hello im having problems with nm-applet [02:36] vidd and gerro, so i am ready to goto tty1? [02:37] rico: I got no clue what your doing just how to use ttys >,> [02:37] gerro, he's reconfiguring x [02:38] vidd: why can't he press esc at boot and do nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf then set it up or if its completely trashed then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:38] i'm guessing i'll be knocked off the chat, see you when i get back i guess [02:38] rico go to tty, typt the command....then comeback b4 hitting enter [02:38] ha, it seems i blogged about ubuntu 7.04 not detecting my wifi in this laptop: http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/16/installing-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-on-an-ibm-thinkpad-t30/ [02:38] how the hell did i get 7.10 working... [02:39] ok, so to comeback i will do control/alt/f7? [02:39] yes [02:39] ok, lemme try [02:40] shouldn't he do stop on gdm? [02:40] and if so then would ctrl alt f7 work? [02:40] you dont have to stop x to reconfig it... [02:41] if you use auto detection stuff it tends to get better results if you do [02:41] ok, i'm back. tty asked me for user/password then command prompt, then i entered: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserv-xorg [02:41] it willstop it and restart it [02:41] if he knows already what to put minds well edit xorg.conf directly from any mode long as your root [02:41] you want to walk him through that? [02:42] i always mess it up that way [02:42] heck no I'm just saying some people are picky and I don't understand rofl [02:42] so guys am i ready to go back and hit enter? [02:42] what will happen is this..... [02:43] vidd: why not rm xorg.conf? [02:43] huh? [02:43] wouldn't that cause it to generate a default one? [02:43] or crash and die? [02:43] we no like crash and die [02:43] methinks it crash and diw [02:43] rico: you'd still have command prompt to fix it :P [02:44] im having trouble with nm-applet is there another Network Configuration tool? [02:44] but no chat to get instructions [02:44] dezrik: yeah umm try wifi scanner [02:44] ya, scarry [02:44] vidd, i guess i'm ready to try your way. you were about to tell me what would happen [02:45] dezrik: ah darn that's not the right name for it.. I just use kismet usually [02:45] it will bring up a type of wizard [02:45] rico: how did xorg mess up anyway and are you at all able to enter a graphical mode? [02:46] yes i have graphical, but only 640 screenres is driving me nuts [02:46] rico: then don't go reconfiguring xorg lol [02:47] you will mostly accept the defaulttill it talks about display [02:47] rico: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf edit the resolution your monitor supports and its refresh rates [02:47] don't know why gutsy din't do all this on install, it's sposed to i thought [02:48] rico: yeah it does but your monitor might not be listed or its unsure of what to put because of the type of graphics card its using [02:48] vidd, ok, i will mostly accept the default untill display, and then what? [02:48] rico: there also this command ddcprobe to list info about your monitor like colors it supports and refresh rate [02:48] gerro, ya, this monitor is a Hansol, never heard of it b4 [02:48] rico, follow gerro advice first [02:49] vidd: did you tell him to make a backup file before reconfiguring I mean it still partially works [02:49] not yet [02:49] guys, would i be better off switching out monitors? i have some others downstairs [02:50] less risky? [02:50] rico: wouldn't work, you need to edit the settings [02:50] rico: and if you specify it exactly to your monitor it won't use any "safe defaults" and perform better [02:50] omg. ok, so where are we [02:51] i don't know if i will muff this up if too complicated. i not so smart. [02:51] rico: where do you feel comfortable command prompt or gui? [02:51] gui, naturally, but if i have a helper i can muddle thru command line [02:52] rico: then get to gui and quit calling me a helper :D [02:52] teacher, then? [02:53] what do you mean gete to gui? [02:53] just press ctrl alt f7 [02:53] your back at desktop then right? [02:54] yes, i'm on desktop now using chatzilla [02:54] can you open a terminal? or press alt f2 and enter xfce4-terminal if thats too hard big to read enter xterm [02:54] do i have to 'close' the tty? [02:55] not really [02:55] it takes very minor kb of memory [02:55] ok, opening terminal now [02:55] then sudo su and enter your root pass since we doing some systems stuff [02:56] what do you mean sudo su? [02:56] that is whole command? [02:56] mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want a pretty text editor or nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you prefer command line one (don't do if you did xterm because can't copy/paste) [02:57] yes its whole command [02:57] sudo= do as root su= become super user [02:58] so, simply 'sudo su'? [02:58] yeah [02:58] k, i am superuser [02:59] now, mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [02:59] you opened up the file with mousepad or nano? [02:59] * vidd needs to rack out [02:59] thanks vidd [03:00] good luck [03:00] yeah [03:00] gerro, i din't open anything but terminal 'sudo su' [03:00] the terminal can open everything else [03:00] k, so what next [03:01] scroll down you will see a line about your resolution [03:01] just put in there for the largest one it lists whatever you think your monitor will support [03:01] take into consideration if your graphics card can keep up with your monitor (usually they can quite well) [03:02] no, i don't have any output there yet ... is this where i do 'mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf'? [03:02] you do that inside the terminal you did sudo su in [03:02] now? [03:02] yeah [03:02] k [03:03] mousepad not installed says i can install it. do it now? [03:03] as superuser? [03:03] no [03:03] which ubuntu distribution are you using? [03:03] try gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead then [03:04] using gutsy 7.10 [03:04] not xubuntu though right? [03:05] Is anyone here? I have a problem with Synaptic. [03:05] no, ubuntu [03:05] What? [03:05] rico: yeah ubuntu comes with gedit installed just try that pretty much samet hing [03:05] Oh, different conversation. [03:06] gerro, ok, so what's my command then? [03:06] acaceol: sup, what's the problem? [03:06] I have a broken package, and I can't fix it, and I can't remove it. [03:07] rico: your opening gedit a text editor to the location /etc/X11/ for the file xorg.conf so 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' X11 being your graphics stuff and etc being your config files [03:07] And when I try to get anything else, it says that I have a broken package and it won't let me install. [03:08] acaceol: try apt-get autoremove and apt-get clean [03:08] k, so : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [03:08] acaceol: that removes packages that have issues and cleans out older .debs incase you some how messed up a packages installer [03:09] rico: yep [03:10] subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 [03:11] acaceol: umm sorry when using apt-get command do sudo or do it as root [03:11] I did. [03:11] i got a gnome warning autthentication failed but it did bring up the file just the same, i'm gonna pastebin it and be right back to show you [03:12] ah... crap might have some problems with your repositories then acaceol [03:12] /var/lib/dpkg/info/wamerican.postrm: 12: /usr/sbin/remove-default-wordlist: not found [03:12] acaceol: which part did it mess up at? [03:13] I think the missing dependancy is the uninstaller. >.> [03:14] rico: authentication fails if you enter your password in wrong.. [03:15] gerro, here is the file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59325/ [03:17] acaceol: umm I'd suggest taking that output and run synaptic from terminal to get any errors it outputs then pastebin it and perhaps post a comment on forum and/or #ubuntu [03:17] acaceol: if you have any other ubuntu systems you could grab those files from and hope it starts working again? [03:18] rico: alright which graphics card and monitor exactly models and what does lspci list for your graphics card line [03:20] I don't, sadly [03:20] gerro omg i don't know. [03:20] how do i find out [03:20] acaceol: maybe another box you could install ubuntu to virtualbox or run copy of wubi and get the info? [03:21] acaceol: give me the names of files you need and I'll see if I got a copy if you want [03:22] Apparently I need /usr/sbin/remove-default-wordlist [03:22] rico: just do lspci and pastebin it [03:22] rico: pastebin all it says should list that [03:22] rico: lshw lists lot of hardware info too but its very indepth [03:23] If you get wamerican then you should have the file, but I wouldn't want you to mess up your computer, too [03:23] heck if you could pastebin ddcprobe too it would help think you have to 'apt-get install xresprobe' package [03:23] acaceol: wouldn't mess up anything just copying stuff [03:24]