[00:06] Riddell: removed the envy drivers and starting the upgrade [00:06] envy nvidia [00:11] Hobbsee: A total rewrite of guidance would be nice. [00:11] ScottK2: yeah right. [00:11] ScottK2: want to dump glassfish into oblivion, or do you want it in? [00:12] That's the Java thing, right? [00:12] I vote oblivion. [00:13] If they miraculously get their packages advocated, I might want to unoblivion that particular one. [00:14] ScottK2: yeah [00:14] ScottK2: want to have the honours? [00:16] Hobbsee: No. I'm actually working on trying to teach Guidance displayconfig not to barf if xorg.conf happens to not be around. [00:16] * Hobbsee is attempting to get uni work done. [00:16] * Hobbsee is failing [00:16] you see, this is why i don't do LP-stuff while at uni [00:16] At least neither of us is getting paid for this. [00:17] ScottK2: can i have supertuxkart? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/supertuxkart/+bug/201529 [00:17] Launchpad bug 201529 in supertuxkart "[FFe] Please sync supertuxkart 0.4-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] [00:18] only 4 hours and 24 minutes remaining on upgrade [00:19] Hobbsee: to nuke or approve. With games I'm incliined to be pretty liberal? [00:19] ScottK2: to approve. [00:19] Sure [00:19] I'll mark on tha tone too [00:20] thx [00:21] Hobbsee: Done [00:21] thanks [00:22] No problem [00:25] hmm why are the changelogs of new packages always 2 decades late? i've been trying to see what was new in kdebase-workspace_4.0.2-0ubuntu2 since it was uploaded and now kdebase-workspace_4.0.2-0ubuntu3 is in.. never got to see the ubuntu2 changelog [00:28] gribelu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kdebase-workspace/+changelog [00:39] could someone update the bug day link in the topic? [00:39] here and in #kubuntu [00:44] no topic lock [00:45] stdin: thanks i was looking for an alternative way to view changelogs :) [00:48] wow this is a slow upgrade :) [00:49] you mention that kde4 is available with alpha6, but there is now ld link? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha6/Kubuntu === yuriy changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | Add ideas https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuSummerOfCodeIdeas | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Next meeting: Wednesday 19th 23:00UTC | Hug Day! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080313/KDE [00:53] "Alpha 6 is the first alpha release to ship with a KDE4 CD. Take your pick." [00:56] the missing link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/hardy/alpha-6/ <-- please give this link @https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha6/Kubuntu (there is only kde3.5 cd link) [00:57] kristjan_: it's a wiki, feel free to add the link [00:57] kristjan_: it's a wiki, add the link [00:58] no, thanks. I'm not registered ;-) [00:58] kristjan_: it's the same as your launchpad account if you have one [00:59] why would you use the alphas if you don't have a LP account, you can't report bugs? [01:00] anyways, the german version has the link http://www.kubuntu-de.org/nachrichten/kubuntu/kubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron-alpha-6-erschienen [01:00] link added. shoulda gone with stdin's attitude [01:22] wo only 14% thru ht e upgrade [01:22] this swill probablly take all night [01:50] Umm, can I mark bugs on 7.10RC as invalid, since its RC, and untouched? [01:54] i would :) [01:55] ryanakca: That's one way to do it. I'd suggest actually looking into it. [01:58] ScottK2: hmm... well, the bug looks to me as if it was just a fluke... bug 151497 , and the error message only appears on first login. Mark it as Incomplete and ask if they still experience it? [01:58] Launchpad bug 151497 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu 7.10-RC: Kdesktop: unable to create io-slave" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151497 [01:59] Sounds reasonable. [01:59] much better than straight to invalid from a user perspective. At least they get asked first [02:00] Yes [02:00] Also, would it be reasonable to subscribe ubuntu-security to bug 134832 ? [02:00] Launchpad bug 134832 in kubuntu-meta "Reiserfs is mounted as swap" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134832 [02:00] * ScottK2 looks [02:00] Mounted as swap, I'm guessing it could overwrite the partition, erasing everything, etc? Or would it just be a large nuissance? [02:01] It's a data hazard issue, but not security [02:02] Ok. And I'm guessing it would be... ummm... kernel related? [02:02] nixternal: i see you finally got the top of the list for 5-a-day [02:02] * ryanakca shrugs [02:04] I spent about 6 hours yesterday and today understanding Guidance's xorg object model, how to interact with it, and how to get it to survive with a piece of xorg.conf missing. [02:04] That was one. [02:05] * ScottK2 really wonder if the whole 5 thing puts the emphasis on the right thing. [02:06] ScottK2: what should the emphasis be on? new development or fixing bugs that are old and perhaps invalid/already fixed? [02:06] ScottK2: I look at it as a interesting way for people to wet their toes and get involved with Ubuntu... [02:06] as so many of the bugs i've dealt with are months old and the reporter no longer is following up on [02:06] That wasn't new development. That was bug fixing. [02:07] what should the emphsais be on then? [02:07] The best user experience. [02:07] Bug body counts don't get you there. [02:07] doesn't troubleshooting/resolving/fixing bugs deal with that? [02:09] Sure, but what affects the end user more: Fixing on bug that makes a piece of the system non-functional or updating the status on 100 bugs in Launchpad? [02:10] Updating status needs to be done, but I don't think it should be the first and only thing we pay attention to. [02:10] ScottK2: the idea is that you fix as well as update status :) [02:10] * ryanakca agrees with ScottK2, but points out that not everybody knows how to fix system critical software. [02:11] Hobbsee: How many of these 5 people are taking credit for are updated marking and how many are actual new fixes? [02:11] At this point I'm seriously hoping I'm one of the ones that does, because I'm sure as heck attempting it. [02:11] ScottK2: good question [02:20] l [02:21] sorry bout that [02:26] ScottK2: so you would argue that you shouldn't take credit on 5-a-day if you don't fix a bug just do check for status? [02:27] heh, that wipes out pretty much all of my 5-a-day bugs... [02:27] ryanakca: most of mine as well [02:27] OK you core-devs, bug #44548 has an attachment by Colin Watson to fix that bug if you want to get to work on it :) [02:27] Launchpad bug 44548 in kdebase "Problems with accentuated characters in man pages" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44548 [02:29] wow upgrade at 26% of downloading packages [02:33] nixternal: do you want to close out bug 34683, you were the last pesrson to respond asking for more questions [02:33] Launchpad bug 34683 in kubuntu-default-settings "default background setting shoudl be "per screen" not "stretched accross all screens"" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34683 [02:33] no response since 2007-06 [02:35] jjesse: Yes [02:35] just didn't want to step on rich's toes [02:36] jjesse: Yes, I think discovering a bug no longer happens and then marking it fixed really shouldn't count. [02:37] ScottK2: well i would only mark it as fixed if i was abble to track down exactly what fixed it [02:37] if it was a year or two old then i would i mark it as invalid due to not being able to track down what exactly was causing the problem [02:37] I think marking it fixed is fine, it's the taking credit on 5 a day that bugs me. [02:38] I'll sometimes mark those fixed depending on how well triaged and reproduceable they were. [02:39] ScottK2: for 5-a-day there are 2 stages, the regular 5-a-day and the really-fix-it [02:39] ScottK2: i guess i would disagree due to the fact there are some people that know how to do little more then check status of a bug and resolve the bug based on feedback from the reporter (or lack of response) [02:39] * jjesse points at himslef [02:39] I think people working on 5-a-day and racking up an asston of karma for triaging a bug is worth plenty of cookies [02:40] its interesting my karma has actually gone down due to the averaging of things, little blueprint work, little translation work, etc [02:40] which it seems a majority of the really-fix-it bugs shouldn't even be listed [02:40] ya, I have translation work...how the hell I got that I will never know [02:41] Well then maybe I'm grumbling about really-fix-it then and not 5 a day. [02:41] I think because I had to manually upload the kubuntu-docs translations a couple of years ago [02:41] the average of everything keeps my karma score way low [02:41] i think 5-a-day is just doing something with a bug, you don't have to close it [02:41] yuriy: yup [02:42] it was to get more people working on bugs...started out easy, then came the really-fix-it, and there will probably be one more stage yet to come [02:42] what is really-fix-it again? [02:42] bugs that supposedly have patches in LP, upstream, or elsewhere [02:42] oh yeah daniel osted about that on his blog didn't he [02:42] ya [03:29] ScottK2 or Hobbsee: I have a piece of crack for you to upload...first person to answer wins the crack [03:56] thank god for my foresight box [03:56] because someone uploaded very bad crack to Hardy [03:56] so if you are running hardy, I urge you to not upgrade at all [03:57] I have 3 dead boxes...gg core-devs [06:15] * ScottK2 isn't going to upload it, but is curious what it is. [06:21] Is anyone packaging kdpkg? (If not I'll go ahead :) [06:37] nareshov: none is working at it AFAIK - best thing is to look at LP, you need to report a needs-packaging bug anyway [06:37] oh, okay [06:38] BTW, pinentry-qt never works for me [06:38] it flashes the window several times without letting me a chance to type my passphrase [06:39] How can I make let me enter passphrase on stdin itself? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:14] jpatrick: pling [08:14] nixternal: pling [08:15] Tonio_: can I archive kdesudo on revu? [09:08] apachelogger: sure [09:15] <_StefanS_> hello.. [09:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: good work on the k-d-s :) [09:16] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ping? === \sh is now known as \sh_away [09:22] I hereby declare pardus one awesome distribution === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:25] _StefanS_: ;) still waiting for the qtcurse config file [09:26] _StefanS_: but I like the defaults, we probably don't need to change it === \sh is now known as \sh_away [09:26] apachelogger_: a friend of mine also likes it [09:26] apachelogger_: what is interesteing in it ? [09:26] it's very polished [09:26] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: err, I sent you the qtcurve config [09:26] iconwise especially [09:27] * _StefanS_ is glad that the fractals is gone. [09:29] <_StefanS_> apachelogger_: how did you manage to download and test it ? :) I cant read turkish [09:29] I can :P [09:30] no, german LinuxUser magazine had a live version [09:30] <_StefanS_> ah :D [09:30] <_StefanS_> cause I dont understand squat on the homepage [09:30] <_StefanS_> is it gnome? [09:31] pardus has English too [09:31] KDE based [09:31] <_StefanS_> ah [09:31] <_StefanS_> I must be blind :) [09:32] <_StefanS_> ah the airbrush look to the icons is very nice indeed === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [09:33] (offtopic... the banner for the new GNOME release looks like some people want to have a foot accupuncture :P) [09:33] lol [09:36] ScottK/ScottK2: ping [09:41] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img065.png <-- icons [09:42] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img067.png <-- desktop [09:42] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img068.png <-- init stuff manager [09:42] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img069.png <-- user manager [09:42] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img071.png <-- firefox like throbber anymation at app start [09:43] * apachelogger_ switches to mandriva [09:49] (another thing I like about pardus is it's theme of cats :P) === \sh_away is now known as \sh [10:05] hm, I somehow eneded up in ubuntu [10:09] Hmmm, I was trying to figure out If I can release my application under GPLv3 or if I have to use GPLv2. I use Qt4, with Python 2.5 and PyQt4 all from the repositories. [10:10] from the trolltech site only says that qt3 is gplv3, and qt4 only from snapshot. === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [10:14] eldaria: http://trolltech.com/developer/notes/changes/changes-4.3.4/ [10:16] Jucato: Thanks, it looks like I'm running an older version of QT, 4.3.2 [10:17] !info libqt4 hardy [10:17] Package libqt4 does not exist in hardy [10:17] !info libqt4-dev hardy [10:17] libqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 4351 kB, installed size 22952 kB [10:17] !info libqt4-dev gutsy [10:17] libqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.2 (gutsy), package size 4333 kB, installed size 23128 kB [10:17] hm.. gutsy-backports might have an updated qt4, or from the KDE 4 PPA repository === \sh is now known as \sh_away [10:18] i'm quite sure I have both repositories added, will check, 1 moment. [10:21] yup, both backports and ppa, oh well, will have to wait for Hardy. [10:23] it will probably take me that long anyway before I can release a working product. lol === \sh_away is now known as \sh [10:41] kwwii: do you have the source to kubuntu-leaflet in example-content? [10:43] * jussi01 cries at the latest libc6 breakage [11:18] hi... just fixed the problem with kde-guidance-powermanager not being able to suspend, bug 194780 , if someone wants to have a look [11:18] Launchpad bug 194780 in kde-guidance "[hardy] power manager does not suspend/hibernate, while kubuntu shut-down menu does." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194780 [11:22] hi awen_, thanks for looking into that [11:23] awen_: how did you find out the problem? [11:23] Riddell: no problem [11:24] Riddell: i copied the powermanage.py script to another folder, and started poking at it... and ended up finding out, that it was the hal call simply not doing the right thing [11:24] and looked up the hal specification for it http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/hal-spec/hal-spec.html#interface-device-systempower [11:26] i'm not sure, but i suspect that the interface might have changed (my guess was that 3 meant state S3; but that's not how it is interpreted now) [11:26] mm, maybe [11:27] I wonder why you would want to suspend for anything other than an indefinate time [11:27] uploaded [11:32] ScottK2: I've made a small hack to fix the eric crash: http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/eric_pyqt_4.3.3_hack.debdiff [11:33] Riddell: i wondered a little too... and thanks [11:35] awen_: does guidance's brightness control work for you? [11:35] <_StefanS_> I've encountered a crash yesterday with adept updater, It asked me a question about what configuration file I wanted to keep. Adept crashed after all package updates were done [11:36] Riddell: not really... changing brightness works, and i get a pop-up; but it allways states that it is "brightness: 100%" [11:37] hmm, I have the opposite, % changes but actual brightness doesn't [11:38] ah _StefanS_, did you have preferred settings for qtcurve? [11:38] _StefanS_: That wins you a free copy of adept 3 alpha 4 which you can try to crash and report and you'll crashes will be fixed as a bonus (*)... (*) As developer time permits. [11:38] s/you'll/your/ [11:38] Bah :-). [11:39] Riddell: that sounds utterly strange... [11:43] Riddell: here brightness doesn't change and it stays at 0% [11:44] a multitude of brightness problems :) [11:44] acpi is such a pain [11:46] mornfall: do you have packages of adept 3? [11:46] jussi01: there's a PPA [11:46] smarter: address pls? [11:46] http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-mornfall/ubuntu [11:46] smarter: thanks. [11:47] deb ... hardy main [11:47] mornfall: Ill play with that some when I get home (and have fixxed my hardy install sufficiently) [11:47] http://ppa.launchpad.net/mornfall/ubuntu/pool/main/a/adept/ now [11:47] http://ppa.launchpad.net/mornfall/ubuntu rather [11:49] Riddell: much appreciated :) [12:04] Riddell: good point is that finally power-manager is fully translated now :) after 2 years we're using it, it finally get translation ;) [12:05] Riddell: do we want a specific qtcurve option? default is very nice to me [12:06] Tonio_: dunno, it seems to be infinitly configurable [12:07] Riddell: yep, but as defaults seem to be nice enough...... and since pushing default conf is not that easier (no .kde) I'd vote to keep the defaults [12:10] * smarter still prefers polyester [12:11] smarter: bah it changes....... and polyester has a nasty bug with kate [12:11] it does? [12:12] Riddell: bug 144429 [12:12] Launchpad bug 144429 in polyester "Crash of Kate when closing files, only using polyester style" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144429 [12:12] nasty [12:12] apachelogger: I've uploaded k-d-s with kde 4 bits enabled, seems to work for me [12:12] Riddell: randomly happens for soem people, but the issue is also reported to kde bts [12:12] apachelogger: I think we should try and get them upstream where sensible [12:12] never happened for me [12:12] apachelogger: ktip, kcookiejar and kwin seem sensible changes [12:12] smarter: no but we also have to consider our users :) [12:12] I'll try to get used to qtcurve [12:13] Tonio_: of course ;) [12:13] smarter: http://worksforme.org is not the good way of managing a distro :) [12:13] dunno if the joke exists in english in fact..... :) in french we commonly answer http://chezmoicamarche.com [12:13] smarter: qtcurve is infinitely configurable, I'm sure you can find some settings that work well [12:14] the bug is quiet old, maybe it has been fixed? [12:14] Riddell: but do we want to patch startkde to push the config ? [12:14] smarter: no idea [12:14] smarter: still opened on the kde side, so I suspect no [12:14] Tonio_: no, if we did configure it we should try to fix qtcurve to read something from /etc [12:15] Riddell: so read in .local, then etc ? sounds like not that easy to do..... [12:15] maybe there are qt classes for this, dunno [12:15] but as I say, defaults are fine for me, could be discussed next meeting [12:15] other way around [12:15] yes, could be [12:15] talking about that, is there a date planned ? [12:16] Next meeting: Wednesday 19th 23:00UTC [12:16] okay I'll be there this time, I was there on saturday, sorry for this.... [12:16] I wasn't :) [12:16] hehe okay :) [12:17] ok now it looks a lot friendlier ;-) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080313/KDE [12:17] * Nightrose goes on triaging [12:25] dooooods [12:25] my editmoin doesn't work -.- [12:27] Riddell: yeah, I added that to my todo [12:28] apachelogger: sending changes upstream? [12:28] yes [12:28] Riddell: also I'm concerned about a conflict between qtcurve and gtk-qt-engine [12:28] Riddell: the purpose of qtcurve is to have the same theme on gnome and kde [12:29] Riddell: but it doesn't map icons and so on [12:29] * apachelogger gives all his votes to gtk-qt-engine [12:29] Tonio_: hvae you seen ubuntu gnome recently? they have some crazy theme [12:29] goodness, compiz-kde is actually working [12:30] Riddell: by crazy, you mean beautifull ? [12:30] that alt-tab is, to borrow a kwwii-ism, killer [12:30] Tonio_: "interesting" :) [12:30] Riddell: I always thought gnome was way more beautifull kde is [12:30] * apachelogger always thought that ubuntu gnome looks awful [12:30] suse gnome looks much better [12:30] apachelogger: agree on that point [12:30] apachelogger: any luck with that gentoo amarok test? [12:31] apachelogger: but I talked about gnome and kde in general [12:31] gnome is really beautifull [12:31] Riddell: didn't get any feedback, I will check it myself when I am at home [12:31] apachelogger: talking about gtk-qt, afaics it does work pretty nicelly with qtcurve aswell [12:32] but then we don't use the gtk-qtcurve [12:32] well, qtcurve is adapting to the issue, not adapting a solution for the issue [12:33] a doctor doesn't get the flu, so he can't get infected with flu in his job [12:33] quite strange approach really [12:34] hum Riddell, when using qtcurve, gtk sets qt by default [12:34] Riddell: I'm changing the default config file to use qtcurve aswell [12:34] Nightrose: please fix my editmoin [12:34] apachelogger: nah - I am triaging the bugs on the list right now - lots of invalid stuff there [12:35] * Nightrose should start the 5-a-day as well :P [12:35] yay [12:35] for triaging [12:35] not 5-a-day [12:35] stupid mainstream stuff [12:35] hehe [12:36] hum no, Qt theme is qtcurve in fact, so no change needed ;) cool [12:36] there we go https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080313/KDE [12:36] looks way better than a few hours ago [12:36] Nightrose: good job ;) [12:36] still I need editmoin [12:37] hmm why is the wiki taking so long to save my edits? [12:37] Tonio_: ;-) [12:37] Tonio_: I need you to have a look at ksniffer btw if you have time - apachelogger and I basically gave up on it - needs a kdesu expert [12:38] Nightrose: its been slow for a good while imho [12:38] meh [12:40] Nightrose: revu ? [12:41] I never pretented to be a kdesu expert, but I can have a look now if you want [12:41] Tonio_: nope I can get you a bugnumber and forward you all the mail I wrote with the author [12:41] Nightrose: what is the problem exactly ? [12:41] Nightrose: summarize please :) [12:42] doesn't work when run as root ? [12:42] ksniffer needs to be started with kdesu, then it can´t sniff any packages [12:42] it works when being started as root [12:42] Nightrose: kdesudo and kdesu tested ? [12:42] jep [12:42] okay, interesting.... lemme have a look [12:42] env problem certainly [12:42] thx - where can I send you the mails to? [12:43] tonio@ubuntu.com :) [12:43] Nightrose: works when started as root with sudo right ? [12:43] k will send in a minute - the bug is at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ksniffer/+bug/195827 [12:43] Launchpad bug 195827 in ksniffer "[needs update] ksniffer needs update to version 0.3.2" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [12:43] the difference is basically than sudo doesn't load root profile [12:44] I am not sure I tested that [12:44] sudo ksniffer will give the same result than sudo -s and then ksniffer [12:44] shouldn't work with sudo -i [12:44] lemme test [12:45] that's it...... strange issue indeed ;) [12:45] * Tonio_ investigating [12:46] Tonio_: thx - forwarded the mails [12:46] hum works even with sudo -i...... damned ;) [12:49] hum kdesu seems to be broken here...... [12:50] Nightrose: can you try to please remove kdesudo and start kdesu ksniffer ? [12:50] Nightrose: probably my config if broken.... [12:51] as is my virtual maschine ;-) [12:51] Nightrose: I need to know if the problem is kdesudo specific, but can't test [12:51] I really need to reinstall it [12:51] ah ;) [12:51] apachelogger: ^ can you test? [12:51] Riddell: is original kdesu broken for you ? [12:51] apachelogger: or you please ;) [12:51] apachelogger: just start ksniffer with original kdesu [12:51] "kdesu whatever" just freezes here [12:52] Nightrose: yeah it also breaks with kdesu [12:52] very strange issue.... [12:52] indeed [12:52] apachelogger: no need to help, I got kdesu to work [13:04] Nightrose: I kno what the problem is [13:04] [sniff] - interface: [13:04] any [13:04] ohhh [13:04] this is what I get with sudo ksniff devs [13:04] [sniff] - [13:04] interface: [13:04] lo [13:04] and this with kdesu :) [13:04] oO [13:05] oooh, hug day today :) [13:05] Is it safe to upgrade to glibc 2.7-9ubuntu2 ? [13:06] HAHAHA [13:06] Nightrose: I think I know what is the problem [13:06] ;) [13:06] look at that : [13:06] ;-) shoot [13:07] http://pastebin.ca/940984 [13:07] this is the normal ksniff output [13:07] and now with kdesu : [13:07] http://pastebin.ca/940986 [13:07] guess what is wrong ;) [13:09] ohhhhhkay [13:09] parsing is incorrect due to bad endline [13:10] yea [13:10] now, I don't yet know the reason of this [13:10] but I'm sure there is the problem [13:10] thanks a lot [13:10] * _StefanS_ sniffs [13:10] Nightrose: it's not fixed yet, I still have to figure out where is the problem exactly, but that is a good start ;) [13:11] Tonio_: hehe yea - more than any of us found out so far :P [13:11] ^^ [13:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: didnt you get my qtcurve config ? [13:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sorry I havent seen your repy [13:11] _StefanS_: lemme look [13:13] Nightrose: wait....... no issue with kdesudo, so that's not the problem :/ [13:13] narf [13:13] :( [13:13] _StefanS_: nope no mail [13:13] <_StefanS_> err.. [13:13] _StefanS_: my ubuntu.com address was broken for some days, not works again, please resend [13:14] <_StefanS_> ah ok [13:14] <_StefanS_> will send in a moment [13:34] Nightrose: fyi, kdesudo ksniff works as expected [13:35] the thing is that when I ctrl+c I don't get the process feedback [13:35] this process tell you how many packets where captured [13:35] there can be the difference [13:35] no output, no packets [13:36] hmm yea [13:36] that's a signal problem in the code [13:36] for some reason, doesn't work with kdesudo [13:36] probably a dcop issue or something [13:36] I have to look at the code [13:37] thx [13:37] can anyone play dvds in kaffeine? [13:38] Riddell: no dvd to test :/ [13:40] Nightrose: *** glibc detected *** ksniff: double free or corruption (top): 0x0805f748 *** [13:40] strace tells me there are problems when stopping ksniff [13:40] hmmm [13:40] not good [13:40] Nightrose: I suspect that as this a kprocess runnin in kprocess (with kdesudo or kdesu) it'll stop the second process immediatly [13:41] Nightrose: with simply sudo, you just have one kprocess, that will (apparently) continue [13:41] Nightrose: note that the issue happens also with sudo [13:42] I see [13:43] dunno exactly what the problem is but certainly de to bad ending of the process in a kprocess in another kprocess [13:43] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: havent sent the mail yet; its on the other laptop [13:43] Riddell: would that make sense to you or not ? [13:43] _StefanS_: oki ;) [13:44] Nightrose: that's a shell application, it should be started as kshellprocess [13:44] Nightrose: patching is easy, I can test this one [13:44] perfect [13:45] apachelogger: any opinion on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/164649 ? [13:45] Launchpad bug 164649 in amarok "Include amsn-now-listen script in package" [Undecided,New] [13:49] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: mail is sent [13:51] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: was that kde frontend for dpkg a sucess? [13:53] _StefanS_: very buggy [13:53] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [13:53] :) [13:53] <_StefanS_> I guess thats 0.1 for you right there :) [13:54] <_StefanS_> anyways.. did you get hte mail now? [13:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: do you have anything on your todo list for me atm? [13:56] nope ;) [13:56] <_StefanS_> alright [13:56] take care of you, that'll be enough :) [13:56] <_StefanS_> hehe [13:58] <_StefanS_> gotta run [13:58] <_StefanS_> bbl [14:15] Tonio: kipi-plugins 0.1.5 will be released soon, we have beta1. 0.1.5 final needs soon to be released libkdcraw 0.1.4 (BC break). Lib transition: Digikam need to be patched and kphotoalbum just a rebuild. Tested with a quick rebuild without pbuilder. Is such a transition too late? [14:18] allee: too late for beta, after beta maybe [14:19] Riddell: okay. So I try to prepare everything in my ppa. So all that's necessary would be strip ~ppa1 and upload to archive [14:44] Nightrose: mumble? [14:44] sure - give me 10 mins [14:45] yeah, I need to upgrade the version on my workstation anyway ;-) [14:45] hmm so do I probably [14:45] let's just just skype for now :P [14:46] nah, floss ftw :P [14:46] what does ftw mean? [14:47] for the win [14:50] apachelogger: do you play WoW? [14:50] seele: nope [14:50] considering you mean the game and not vista :P [14:50] yes, the game [14:51] ive only seen gamers use ftw before [14:51] * Nightrose uses it as well - got infected by apachelogger :P [14:51] <- not a gamer [14:51]